[Allstar Digital] DMRlink, HBlink AllStarLink etc.

Sat May 27 01:25:59 EDT 2017

Thank you!

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> Michael,
> Our DMRGateway program was a analog to DMRlink bridge. It's been out for a
> while and we were getting problems reported that were hard to pin down.
> When Mike looked deeper he figured out where major issue was. That started
> us down the road of being able to support HBlink. HBlink had major
> advantages when connecting to a BM network. No BM admin intervention
> required. It turned out that the method of connecting to DMRGateway could
> be simplified and leveraged to connect IPSC to HB. After much back and
> forth we settled on the "partner" concept. Partners talk to each other. Now
> what do we call them? IPSC_bridge? OK. HB_bridge? OK. What do we do with
> DMRGateway. it was odd man out. I did not want to rename it. We had a years
> worth of exposure with that name. But it had to be consistent. So...
> Analog_bridge. Some of this discussion was done at Dayton. We decided to
> demo at Dayton and use the new names. No sooner do we get back and Jonathan
> announces DMRGateway. The name fits perfectly with the other gateways he
> built for the other modes. Sometimes timing works.
>
> What is this thing sleep you speak of? And where can I download it?
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
> On 05/26/2017 04:25 PM, Michael Hebert wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> When do you guys sleep! I am trying to hold on to your coat tales and can
> barely keep my head above the water. LOL. I want to better understand the
> Analog_bridge and DMRgateway. So, it seems you relabeled your DMRGateway
> release to Analog_bridge and Jonathan released a version called DMRGateway.
> It looks like his allows for the connection of up to three different DMR
> networks to one MMDVM system.
>
> Thanks again to all of you that contribute!! This is really and exciting
> time in Ham Radio
>
> Michael KD5DFB
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  I should have done this the first day of Hamvention 2017, but busy does
>> not describe the last couple of weeks. Mike N4IRR and I have been working
>> on updating and expanding the bridging ability of ASL, DMRlink and HBlink.
>> The new applications are referred to as Partners. Partners by themselves
>> don't do much. When 2 or more partners communicate, the partnership forms a
>> bridge between different systems.
>>
>>  DMRlink is the Open Source IPSC Master / Peer "stack" written in python
>> by Cort Buffington, N0MJS. Applications are built on top of this stack. An
>> example application built on top of the stack is the parrot. DMRlink
>> provides the communications to and from IPSC. This can be a Motorola
>> repeater or a Network device like c-Bridge or BrandMeister. We have added
>> to the available applications, IPSC_bridge. This partner application
>> communicates with DMRlink and provides a bridge to other systems.
>>
>>  HBlink is the Open Source HB Master / Peer "stack" written in python by
>> Cort Buffington, N0MJS. Applications are built on top of this stack. An
>> example application built on top of the stack is the parrot. HBlink
>> provides the communications to and from HB Repeater Protocol. This can be a
>> MMDVM repeater, DVMega HotSpot, OpenSpot or a Network device like DMR+ or
>> BrandMeister. We have added to the available applications, HB_bridge. This
>> partner application communicates with HBlink and provides a bridge to other
>> systems.
>>
>>  The third partner is not quite new. New capabilities have been added and
>> old capabilities enhanced. That partner is called Analog_bridge.  It was
>> formerly called DMRGateway. Analog_bridge accepts a stream of analog audio,
>> uses a Vocoder from NW Digital to convert to AMBE and communicates it to a
>> partner. That analog audio can come from ASL or a application running on a
>> desktop computer. A deficiency in the method of signaling PTT assert /
>> de-assert has been fixed. The name Analog_bridge better describes it's
>> function. Some of you may have noticed Jonathan G4KLX just announced his
>> gateway DMRGateway. Thank goodness there will not be any confusion in the
>> names.
>>
>>  Any Partner can communicate with any other Partner to form a bridge.
>> Consider you want to bridge ASL to IPSC. (What ambe_audio and DMRGateway
>> used to do) ASL <---> Analog_bridge <---> IPSC_bridge <---> IPSC Network.
>> This works quite well with a simple Motorola Master / Peer configuration or
>> a c-Bridge. With BrandMeister, there are limitations imposed. You need a BM
>> administrator to configure the BM side of the connection. Any changes to TS
>> or TG has to be coordinated with BM. Now consider another way to accomplish
>> the same ASL to BM connection. ASL <---> Analog_bridge <---> HB_bridge
>> <---> HBR Network.  The HB_bridge connection is treated the same way a
>> MMDVM is treated by BM. You as the sysop define what TS/TG is used. You can
>> build it your way.
>>
>>  I have spoken with Cort, The methods used to allow Partners to
>> communicate will be expanded to include communications with other protocols
>> and services. Cort is busy working on support for remote logging and
>> display. Please be aware, this software is BETA. It's early in the cycle.
>> There will be bugs and features need to be added. HBlink, DMRlink and other
>> yet to be announced programs and tools. (D-Star_bridge?) Please understand
>> we can not support every possible protocol, there are only so many hours in
>> the day and some protocols would have to be reverse engineered. Oh, and
>> some of even have lives. These are tools that allow you to enhance the
>> systems you operate. They are NOT networks. Build it your way. After all,
>> this is HAM radio.
>>
>>  Analog_bridge, HB_bridge and IPSC_bridge will be posted to the
>> repositories in a couple of days. I have uploaded some simple block
>> diagrams to <http://dvswitch.org/files/DVSwitch/> I know some of this
>> information is outside of the ASL Digital area. We will form a new more
>> general list to discuss digital bridging in general. (YAML, Yet another
>> mail list)
>>
>> --
>> "What are HB_bridge, IPSC_bridge and Analog_bridge?"
>>
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