From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Tue Jun  3 02:09:27 2008
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:09:27 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] nodenames.tar.gz: clearing up the confusion
Message-ID: <4844A7D7.9030907@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>


All,

My original message regarding submittals for nodenames.tar.gz was
missing some important information.

The nodenames.tar.gz contains asterisk sound files which are spoken in
lieu of the node number during connect and disconnect messages. For
example, without nodenames.tar.gz unpacked in
/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt, you might expect to hear a message like
"Node 2000 connected to node 2010". With nodenames.tar.gz unpacked in
/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt you would hear the following message
instead: "Ocean Beach Hub connected to WA6ZFT La Mesa". Note that the
node numbers are replaced with node names.

The way this works is app_rpt looks for a file whenever it has to say a
node number in the directory /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames. If
it finds a file name stem/prefix matching the node number, (e.g.
2000.ulaw) it plays the file instead of saying the node number.

Specs: These messages should be as short as possible. And encoded in 14
bit ULAW at a sample rate of 8KHz. The audio level should be normalized
to 32 percent of full level,  You total file size should not exceed
50 kilobytes. Cooledit is a good suggested program to use to generate
these files.

I hope this clears up any confusion caused by the original message.
I will be taking submissions for audio files until 6/6/08.


Steve Rodgers
WA6ZFT






From n9yty at n9yty.com  Tue Jun  3 15:03:29 2008
From: n9yty at n9yty.com (Steven Palm)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:03:29 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt] Allstar list update information
Message-ID: <2BDCB5BF-81B8-45EE-B8C3-07DDDAD75791@n9yty.com>

Hi all,

Not entirely just app_rpt related, but how does one update their node  
information on the allstar list?  I see a login on the page, and I can  
log in, but nothing really changes.

Thanks,
   Steve


From telesistant at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  3 16:27:12 2008
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:27:12 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] Allstar list update information
In-Reply-To: <2BDCB5BF-81B8-45EE-B8C3-07DDDAD75791@n9yty.com>
References: <2BDCB5BF-81B8-45EE-B8C3-07DDDAD75791@n9yty.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W51A28E986CE3113DA6ACB0B1BA0@phx.gbl>


you arfe correct. You have to give me or Steve WA6ZFT the info and we will do it for you.

> From: n9yty at n9yty.com
> To: app_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:03:29 -0500
> Subject: [App_rpt] Allstar list update information
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Not entirely just app_rpt related, but how does one update their node  
> information on the allstar list?  I see a login on the page, and I can  
> log in, but nothing really changes.
> 
> Thanks,
>    Steve
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From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Tue Jun  3 18:37:56 2008
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:37:56 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] Allstar list update information
Message-ID: <20080603183756.UNKQ29031.dukecmmtao04.coxmail.com@dukecmimpo02.coxmail.com>


Steve,

You only get to enter the info once during signup. You can only view your info post-signup. To change something, please send me a request off-list and I'd be happy to make the change for you.

Steve, WA6ZFT


> 
> From: Steven Palm <n9yty at n9yty.com>
> Date: 2008/06/03 Tue AM 08:03:29 PDT
> To: Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt at lists.illiana.net>
> Subject: [App_rpt] Allstar list update information
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Not entirely just app_rpt related, but how does one update their node  
> information on the allstar list?  I see a login on the page, and I can  
> log in, but nothing really changes.
> 
> Thanks,
>    Steve
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt mailing list
> App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
> 



From n9yty at n9yty.com  Wed Jun  4 04:11:24 2008
From: n9yty at n9yty.com (Steven Palm)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:11:24 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt] Simplex node with just RXAud/TXAud/PTT ?
Message-ID: <623D5791-6E15-4FB1-9C95-C16558E862F1@n9yty.com>


Is there any way (for testing right now, maybe short term usage for  
one node) to utilize just an HT for the simplex node?  I see that if I  
am not coming off the discriminator (I wouldn't be, I'd be using  
speaker) I can't use the DSP functions for tone decode.  For this type  
of connection I would probably have the radio set up in a squelched  
state and with CTCSS encode/decode turned on in the radio, so I'd need  
app_rpt to just detect an audio level instead of COR.

I have a connection set up that way, and the TX is fine, and for RX  
the DTMF tones do produce output on the console showing they are  
decoded, but I cannot trigger any functions while doing this,  
presumably because it either thinks no carrier is there or it thinks  
it hasn't dropped, I'm not sure which.

Any thoughts on this?  It would sure make my life easier in the short  
term.

I tried carrierfrom=dsp and carrierfrom=vox...  even carrierfrom=no  
doesn't make it response to DTMF tones.  rxsquelch shows Current  
Signal Strength of 999.

Also, if I have no unsquelched audio, the radio tune rxnoise will  
fail.  But yet for the way I would like to run it there would be no rx  
audio without a carrier present.

I know I read that a minimum connection was just rxaudio, txaudio and  
PTT so I'm hoping there is some way to make this work with the  
modified USB FOB.


Thanks,

Steve


From w4rfj at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 04:52:42 2008
From: w4rfj at comcast.net (Roger F. Jordan Sr.)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 00:52:42 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt] Simplex node with just RXAud/TXAud/PTT ?
In-Reply-To: <623D5791-6E15-4FB1-9C95-C16558E862F1@n9yty.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.26.1571122217.23786.app_rpt-users@lists.keekles.org>

Hi Steve,

I can tell you that there is a way to hook up an HT. However, you must keep
in mind, the Link would have to operate Half duplex... and because of that
the Autopatch capability would suffer....  I would suggest crossbanding to
gain Full duplex control therefore the DTMF Functions would be able to
operate and be received even while the transmitter is Xmiting!  Some cross
band HT's have the ability to TX on one band while Receiving on the other
band at the same time! 

I have actually connected an FRS Handheld to a USB FOB...  I was able to
control it from the repeater Node...  or a telephone thru Asterisk! I could
Xmt When needed by DTMF Control!!  However if you need the DTMF control from
the RF side of the HT...  you will find issues unless you cross band it. (
cross Banded you do not need a duplexer...   

I believe, The USB FOB needs to be set up for VOX or CTCSS to gain a form of
COR.

I hope this blabbering helped!  

Good Luck,
Roger W4RFJ


-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
[mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Steven Palm
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:11 AM
To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
Subject: [App_rpt] Simplex node with just RXAud/TXAud/PTT ?


Is there any way (for testing right now, maybe short term usage for  
one node) to utilize just an HT for the simplex node?  I see that if I  
am not coming off the discriminator (I wouldn't be, I'd be using  
speaker) I can't use the DSP functions for tone decode.  For this type  
of connection I would probably have the radio set up in a squelched  
state and with CTCSS encode/decode turned on in the radio, so I'd need  
app_rpt to just detect an audio level instead of COR.

I have a connection set up that way, and the TX is fine, and for RX  
the DTMF tones do produce output on the console showing they are  
decoded, but I cannot trigger any functions while doing this,  
presumably because it either thinks no carrier is there or it thinks  
it hasn't dropped, I'm not sure which.

Any thoughts on this?  It would sure make my life easier in the short  
term.

I tried carrierfrom=dsp and carrierfrom=vox...  even carrierfrom=no  
doesn't make it response to DTMF tones.  rxsquelch shows Current  
Signal Strength of 999.

Also, if I have no unsquelched audio, the radio tune rxnoise will  
fail.  But yet for the way I would like to run it there would be no rx  
audio without a carrier present.

I know I read that a minimum connection was just rxaudio, txaudio and  
PTT so I'm hoping there is some way to make this work with the  
modified USB FOB.


Thanks,

Steve
_______________________________________________
App_rpt mailing list
App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt



From n9yty at n9yty.com  Wed Jun  4 05:47:30 2008
From: n9yty at n9yty.com (Steven Palm)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 00:47:30 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt] Simplex node with just RXAud/TXAud/PTT ?
In-Reply-To: <20080603215344.4EFD7CD4@sj1-dm03.mta.everyone.net>
References: <20080603215344.4EFD7CD4@sj1-dm03.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <74105190-3FEC-4972-B660-D5853EC6F7E1@n9yty.com>

Well, I don't know what particular part of my synaptic net wasn't  
firing before, but being stubborn enough to try everything at least a  
few more times has paid off.  Have the setting of VOX does seem to be  
working perfectly for me right now the way I want it with the radio  
handling squelch and CTCSS encode/decode.

On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Roger F. Jordan Sr. wrote:
> I can tell you that there is a way to hook up an HT. However, you  
> must keep in mind, the Link would have to operate Half duplex... and  
> because of that
> the Autopatch capability would suffer....

  This isn't a big deal, the primary reason I am installing the link  
is for radio to radio work, not autopatch work...  Although I  
understand there is experimental support in the works for a VOX  
autopatch mode to help.  At any rate, I most likely will be in a  
position to have other channels to issue commands to the system when  
using it anyway if need be.  At some point I may look at a full duplex  
node, so thank you for your advisements.

  Steve - N9YTY


From n9yty at n9yty.com  Thu Jun  5 02:35:17 2008
From: n9yty at n9yty.com (Steven Palm)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 21:35:17 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt] nodenames.tar.gz: clearing up the confusion
In-Reply-To: <4844A7D7.9030907@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
References: <4844A7D7.9030907@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
Message-ID: <DBB5677E-A6CF-4D87-8C36-B203726D871E@n9yty.com>


On Jun 2, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Stephen Rodgers wrote:
> Specs: These messages should be as short as possible. And encoded in  
> 14
> bit ULAW at a sample rate of 8KHz. The audio level should be  
> normalized
> to 32 percent of full level,  You total file size should not exceed
> 50 kilobytes. Cooledit is a good suggested program to use to generate
> these files.

  Oddest thing, I can't seem to find a single program for Mac OS X  
that does 14-bit ULAW.  I have lots that do the SUN/NeXT ua format  
which I believe is the same, but only 8/16/24/32-bit, nothing in 14-bit.

  What program do Linux users use to do this?  I tried Audacity but it  
doesn't seem to even export ULAW at all.

  Steve


From rhammock at ca.rr.com  Thu Jun  5 02:58:26 2008
From: rhammock at ca.rr.com (Randy Hammock)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:58:26 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] nodenames.tar.gz: clearing up the confusion
In-Reply-To: <DBB5677E-A6CF-4D87-8C36-B203726D871E@n9yty.com>
References: <4844A7D7.9030907@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
	<DBB5677E-A6CF-4D87-8C36-B203726D871E@n9yty.com>
Message-ID: <84EE650D-BD4A-4926-892A-05D898B1C37E@ca.rr.com>


On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Steven Palm wrote:

>
> On Jun 2, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Stephen Rodgers wrote:
>> Specs: These messages should be as short as possible. And encoded in
>> 14
>> bit ULAW at a sample rate of 8KHz. The audio level should be
>> normalized
>> to 32 percent of full level,  You total file size should not exceed
>> 50 kilobytes. Cooledit is a good suggested program to use to generate
>> these files.
>
>  Oddest thing, I can't seem to find a single program for Mac OS X
> that does 14-bit ULAW.  I have lots that do the SUN/NeXT ua format
> which I believe is the same, but only 8/16/24/32-bit, nothing in 14- 
> bit.
>
>  What program do Linux users use to do this?  I tried Audacity but it
> doesn't seem to even export ULAW at all.

I used sox on a linux box. sox is really cool as it can convert from  
virtually any coding to another. I'd be willing to bet that a version  
of sox could be found for the MAC OS X. I just checked, not built in  
but will search for it. sox is used pretty heavily in the IRLP world  
to convert .wav files to .ul (.ulaw) and back.

Try looking at http://sox.darwinports.com/

--
Randy Hammock KC6HUR
http://kc6hur.net/~rhammock/
http://irlp.kc6hur.net/
If there are no horses in heaven, then when I die, I want to go where  
they went.