From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Sat Mar  1 02:10:07 2008
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:10:07 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] turning off announcements
In-Reply-To: <7b5d735d0802291338w34cb5a0cp5863c2d86775dabd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7b5d735d0802282142v205074c2ve736e848034dc36b@mail.gmail.com>	<47C825DD.8020601@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>	<7b5d735d0802290838pd56cccdt57d202c308202d34@mail.gmail.com>	<BAY119-W39EACA5A71252E52654CDBB1140@phx.gbl>
	<7b5d735d0802291338w34cb5a0cp5863c2d86775dabd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47C8BAFF.7000808@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

I wasn't aware that ,y suppressed the connection message in the code! I
guess thats what I get for answering these questions on the road without
looking at the code.

Steve.



Shayne Hughes wrote:
> Perfect, that's what I needed to know.  My remote is currently a private
> node.  I'll give that a try.
> 
> Thanks!
> Shayne
> 
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>  NO. This is why we have the ",y" at the end of a node entry in the node
>> list to indicate
>> that its a remote. All that telemetry and stuff wont go out a remote if
>> your list is configured
>> correctly. The allstar node list is done this way, if you have provided us
>> the correct info. If
>> you are doing something private, then you need to make sure you format
>> your node list
>> correctly.
>>
>> JIM WB6NIL
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:38:47 -0800
>>> From: velocityfactor at gmail.com
>>> To: app_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt] turning off announcements
>>> Thanks. Oh, so the announcement is made on the calling side, and gets
>>> transmitted to the recipient side because they are linked? I see that
>>> some people are running frequency agile hf radios as remote bases. If
>>> they leave it sitting on 20m somewhere and someone connects to that
>>> node, does it announce that to the world on 20m? Is that not a
>>> concern or is there some existing way they deal with it?
>>>
>>> Shayne
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Stephen Rodgers
>>> <hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
>>>> For the connection messages, it would require a code change to
>> app_rpt.c
>>>> to not announce the node connection when connecting to a remote base.
>>>>
>>>> The Id'er is a local-only message and shouldn't key up the remote.
>> This
>>>> is why you don't hear everyone's repeater ID's on Allstar link.
>>>>
>>>> Steve.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shayne Hughes wrote:
>>>>> Is there a way to turn off the all announcements when one node
>>>>> connects to another and the id'er for a node? In particular I'm
>>>>> thinking of when I connect a repeater to a remote base on the same
>>>>> system. I'd like to connect to the remote base and not have that be
>>>>> announced on the remote base.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there's an example config for this somewhere, I'd appreciate a
>>>>> pointer to it. I went through all the ones I could find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Shayne
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> App_rpt mailing list
>>>>> App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>>>>> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
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From n4charlielimaalpha at gmail.com  Sat Mar  1 15:52:20 2008
From: n4charlielimaalpha at gmail.com (n4charlielimaalpha)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:52:20 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt] Test message
Message-ID: <47C97BB4.7010209@gmail.com>

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From w7aor at narri.org  Mon Mar  3 03:13:46 2008
From: w7aor at narri.org (Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:13:46 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] USB Fobs for sale?
Message-ID: <000001c87cdc$9acd8a30$d0689e90$@org>

Who is selling the ALL STARR USB Fobs? Where advertised?

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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Mon Mar  3 03:42:20 2008
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:42:20 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] USB Fobs for sale?
In-Reply-To: <000001c87cdc$9acd8a30$d0689e90$@org>
References: <000001c87cdc$9acd8a30$d0689e90$@org>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W43640C301B8D29910CC2EAB1170@phx.gbl>


yes, DMK engineering. see http://www.dmkeng.com/URI_Order_Page.htm

From: w7aor at narri.org
To: app_rpt at lists.illiana.net
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:13:46 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] USB Fobs for sale?
















Who is selling the ALL STARR USB Fobs? Where advertised?






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From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Mon Mar  3 03:25:49 2008
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:25:49 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] USB Fobs for sale?
In-Reply-To: <000001c87cdc$9acd8a30$d0689e90$@org>
References: <000001c87cdc$9acd8a30$d0689e90$@org>
Message-ID: <47CB6FBD.9060306@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

Kent,

DMK Engieering: http://dmkeng.com/URI_Order_Page.htm


Steve.


Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc. wrote:
> Who is selling the ALL STARR USB Fobs? Where advertised?
> 
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From matt at brownbuffalo.com  Wed Mar  5 14:47:04 2008
From: matt at brownbuffalo.com (matt at brownbuffalo.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:47:04 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt] PCI Quad Radio Interface for sale
Message-ID: <26643959.313031204728424579.JavaMail.servlet@perfora>

I'm looking to sell my PCI Quad Radio Interface board. This is the same board as seen on http://qrvc.com/radiocards.html
It was purchased last year, but hasn't been used more than a few times and is in like-new condition. Life has gotten a bit busy lately and I've decided I'm not going to have time to pursue this project. The board?has been installed in a machine (powered off)?during this time, and?I just brought it back online to verify that the board is functioning properly.
Please email an offer to?me at matt at brownbuffalo.com if you're interested in purchasing this board, or have any questions. 
Thank you,
Matt Brown K2EAG
Lockport, New York
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From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Thu Mar  6 18:35:06 2008
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:35:06 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] chan_usbradio
Message-ID: <8B3B6A69-41E7-4319-9150-8584603D4EAC@jimsoffice.org>

Has anyone successfully set asterisk+app_rpt+chan_usbradio on Ubuntu  
(debian) 6.06?

I am running into this issue:

[Mar  6 10:34:16] WARNING[27028]: loader.c:363 load_dynamic_module:  
Error loading module 'chan_usbradio.so': /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/ 
chan_usbradio.so: undefined symbol: usb_busses
[Mar  6 10:34:16] WARNING[27028]: loader.c:649 load_resource: Module  
'chan_usbradio.so' could not be loaded.
Asterisk Ready.

 From what I understand, I have all the packages necessary installed  
(usbmgr, libusb-dev) but I am not sure what is causing that..

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Jim / k6jwn


From telesistant at hotmail.com  Fri Mar  7 09:33:41 2008
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 01:33:41 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] chan_usbradio
In-Reply-To: <8B3B6A69-41E7-4319-9150-8584603D4EAC@jimsoffice.org>
References: <8B3B6A69-41E7-4319-9150-8584603D4EAC@jimsoffice.org>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W5283631FBFD534A27B1283B1130@phx.gbl>


I think you are missing the following lines in asterisk/channels/Makefile:

chan_usbradio.o: busy.h ringtone.h ./xpmr/xpmr.c ./xpmr/xpmr.h ./xpmr/xpmr_coef.h

chan_usbradio.so: LIBS+=-lusb -lasound


Then touch chan_usbradio.c and make install again.


> To: app_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org
> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:35:06 -0800
> Subject: [App_rpt] chan_usbradio
> 
> Has anyone successfully set asterisk+app_rpt+chan_usbradio on Ubuntu  
> (debian) 6.06?
> 
> I am running into this issue:
> 
> [Mar  6 10:34:16] WARNING[27028]: loader.c:363 load_dynamic_module:  
> Error loading module 'chan_usbradio.so': /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/ 
> chan_usbradio.so: undefined symbol: usb_busses
> [Mar  6 10:34:16] WARNING[27028]: loader.c:649 load_resource: Module  
> 'chan_usbradio.so' could not be loaded.
> Asterisk Ready.
> 
>  From what I understand, I have all the packages necessary installed  
> (usbmgr, libusb-dev) but I am not sure what is causing that..
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jim / k6jwn
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From dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca  Fri Mar  7 15:05:20 2008
From: dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca (David Powell-Williams)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:05:20 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] FW:  chan_usbradio
Message-ID: <0JXD00BV68KWBE60@l-daemon>


Jim's email, mentioning the necessity of adding the chan_usbradio.o and
chan_usbradio.so lines to the asterisk/channels/Makefile, brings a 'gotcha'
to mind:

Besides being contained in Jim's email, the additional Makefile instructions
are also in the 'Using A Modified USB Sound Fob With App_rpt' document.

One might be tempted to append the additions to the Makefile by means of
'cut and paste'.

If you use a Microsoft email client or word processor to do the 'cutting', a
corruption may occur.  Specifically, the leading hyphen in '-lasound' may be
brought into Vim (or your Linux editor) as a Microsoft 'en dash' (0x96). 

This will provide lots of entertainment as the compilation proceeds.

The previous hyphen in 'LIBS+=-lusb' is not corrupted, due to being in the
middle of a string.

FWIW.

73,

David
VE7MQ.



From guillaume.devoyon at gmail.com  Fri Mar  7 16:33:56 2008
From: guillaume.devoyon at gmail.com (Guillaume Devoyon)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:33:56 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt] First contact
Message-ID: <2ee58c680803070833p2b8d7fcenbca657429bc6bc12@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

>From a long time I wanted to set up a apt_rpt link to test.
I have set up a linux suse open on an vmware (juste for test before
migrating to a real pc... it will allow me to start from snapshot if
needed...).

I want to use a usb phone dongle  I found on french market (based on cm108,
the same has on the howto).

No problems for compilations, the howto is perfect... (and I'm linux system
engineer.. ;-) )

I have two questions for beginning :

1) I want to use apt_rpt just for hamradio needs... Is there a documentation
explaining apt_rpt.conf file ? Or does it just exist the sample file for
starting ?

2) I want to use pocket uhf radio gear for my test with just ptt, audio
in/out available... is it possible ? and the cor ? I saw that there was an
squelch parameters in .c file.. how does it work...?

I had a look on archives of the mailing list but i found nothing really
sexy...
If there is documentation, just give me link, i'll read it first before ...
;-)

Best regards
Guillaume Devoyon F8ARR


-- 
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rapidement, veuillez envoyer un mail ? mon adresse permanente :
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From dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca  Fri Mar  7 17:25:51 2008
From: dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca (David Powell-Williams)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:25:51 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] First contact
In-Reply-To: <2ee58c680803070833p2b8d7fcenbca657429bc6bc12@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0JXD0079MF33RL40@l-daemon>

Salut Guillaume:

There are many experts on this list who may respond to you.  I am not one of
these but will explain my understanding while you wait for more complete
information.

There are two important configuration files:
The rpt.conf file determines the operational modes (simplex, duplex, etc),
DTMF codes, CW ID, remote base programming et al.  This file is used for all
the various radio interfaces.

The usbradio.conf file sets up the USB FOB parameters and is unique to that
interface. Switching between receive and transmit can be done in two ways:
DSP squelch generation or hardware COS (carrier sensing).  This selection is
made in the usbradio.conf file.

Audio and DSP sensing levels are adjusted with the 'radio tune' utility, as
described in http://app-rpt.qrvc.com/usbradio.pdf

The files iax.conf and extensions.conf also need additions to support
app-rpt operation.

The best documentation that I have found are the sample conf files (and the
C source code) which show every option.  The question is: Which options does
one need?

I am sure that many members of this list would provide you with copies of
their customized conf files for you to study.  If you wish mine, please
contact me off-list.

An important consideration is the point from which you extract the audio
from your receiver.  If you wish to use DSP squelch generation and CTCSS
detection, the audio should be taken prior to the de-emphasis network, i.e.
the discriminator.

Je vous souhaite la bonne chance!

David
VE7MQ.



From w7aor at narri.org  Fri Mar  7 18:30:05 2008
From: w7aor at narri.org (Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:30:05 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
Message-ID: <000001c88081$470add50$d52097f0$@org>

Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions found?

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From stotaro at totarotechnologies.com  Fri Mar  7 18:49:13 2008
From: stotaro at totarotechnologies.com (Steve Totaro)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:49:13 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
In-Reply-To: <000001c88081$470add50$d52097f0$@org>
References: <000001c88081$470add50$d52097f0$@org>
Message-ID: <ea18e54a0803071049l521cf862g11bb632860b27aba@mail.gmail.com>

My question is how long does it take to ship and arrive?  Are these
things made to order?  (on the slow boat from China).  Seems like I
have been waiting too long and absolutely no communication.

I ordered three on March 3rd.  The only email I got was a receipt from
PayPal.  No order confirmation or shipping information.

For paying $14.95 for shipping I would expect UPS 3day or grounds and
a tracking number the same or next day of the order.

$209.85 for 3x ~$10 modified FOBs, there enough markup room for a
little customer support I think.

Payment Details
Item Price:		$209.85 USD
Total:		$224.80 USD
Buyer:		steve totaro

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.
<w7aor at narri.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions found?
> _______________________________________________
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>
>


From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Fri Mar  7 19:11:42 2008
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:11:42 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
In-Reply-To: <000001c88081$470add50$d52097f0$@org>
References: <000001c88081$470add50$d52097f0$@org>
Message-ID: <47D1936E.5030906@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

Kent,

There are instructions on how to set this up with Easy Vox Box on the
Xelatec site www.xelatec.com and also you can use the audio level setup
portion of the instructions for the modified USB fob on my site at
http://app-rpt.qrvc.com.

Please contact me Jim Dixon or Steve Henke off-list with your specific
questions.


Steve Rodgers
QRV Communications LLC


Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc. wrote:
> Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions found?
> 
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From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Fri Mar  7 20:00:26 2008
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:00:26 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
In-Reply-To: <ea18e54a0803071049l521cf862g11bb632860b27aba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001c88081$470add50$d52097f0$@org>
	<ea18e54a0803071049l521cf862g11bb632860b27aba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3547061B-5B45-4AEC-BF56-646A016CCE35@jimsoffice.org>

He mails them out USPS Priority mail.  The last one I ordered took  
just over a week to get to me (they are located in SoCal).  I called  
and spoke to David (i think that's his name) and at that time there  
was a production delay and he was sick.

Give him a call on the phone or shoot him over an email, I got an  
almost immediate response.  Another ham friend ordered a pair of them  
and had them within a few days..

I ordered another one Wednesday night, so we'll see when it arrives.

Jim / K6JWN

On Mar 7, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:

> My question is how long does it take to ship and arrive?  Are these
> things made to order?  (on the slow boat from China).  Seems like I
> have been waiting too long and absolutely no communication.
>
> I ordered three on March 3rd.  The only email I got was a receipt from
> PayPal.  No order confirmation or shipping information.
>
> For paying $14.95 for shipping I would expect UPS 3day or grounds and
> a tracking number the same or next day of the order.
>
> $209.85 for 3x ~$10 modified FOBs, there enough markup room for a
> little customer support I think.
>
> Payment Details
> Item Price:		$209.85 USD
> Total:		$224.80 USD
> Buyer:		steve totaro
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.
> <w7aor at narri.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions  
>> found?
>> _______________________________________________
>>  App_rpt mailing list
>>  App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>>  http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
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From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Fri Mar  7 20:01:33 2008
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:01:33 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
In-Reply-To: <000001c88081$470add50$d52097f0$@org>
References: <000001c88081$470add50$d52097f0$@org>
Message-ID: <FDD7CBC3-808A-451B-BE07-350D7CE4F5DF@jimsoffice.org>

I haven't found any particular interfacing documents, however after a  
little hunting and pecking, I have interfaced one with an Arcom  
controller and recently a Link Comm..  Contact me off list and I'd be  
happy to share the pinouts I used.

Jim / K6JWN

On Mar 7, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc. wrote:

> Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions  
> found?
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt



From dkramer at dmkeng.com  Sat Mar  8 00:39:21 2008
From: dkramer at dmkeng.com (David Kramer)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:39:21 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
In-Reply-To: <ea18e54a0803071049l521cf862g11bb632860b27aba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <HDEMKEOCMJFPCAHOECOIOEHPELAA.dkramer@dmkeng.com>

Hi Steve,

Your order for 3 URI's shipped yesterday via insured USPS Priority Mail.  In
the future we will try to do a better job of sending out confirmation
emails.  Thank you for the suggestion.

Regarding your comment about ~$10 modified FOBs...  if you can use one of
these I encourage you to do so.  It will certainly save you money.  You
should know the differences however between those devices and URI.

First of all, the FOBs are made in gazillion quantities which helps drive
the cost down.  We built an initial batch of 100 URIs so we don't have quite
the same magnitude scale.  Secondly, the cheapo FOBs consist of a sound
chip, a plastic housing, connectors and not much else.  In order to make it
work with Asterisk/app_rpt you have to attach a few components to some very
tiny surface mount pins, something not easy to do.  Here is what URI
provides that you don't get with the FOBs:

RF filtering on all I/Os
3-pole high-fidelity low-pass active filters on both audio outputs with
connections for AC or DC coupling
Optional high output drive capability 2X gain amplifier
AC and DC coupled options for audio in
Provisions for connector-mounted EEPROM intended for storing configuration
data
Circuitry for PTT, CTCSS, and COR connections
3 user programmable I/Os
RoHS compliant product
USB cable

In 100 piece quantities, the components alone cost more than twice what a
single USB audio FOB costs from geeks.com.  That doesn't include the bare PC
board, component assembly labor, housing, machining, final assembly, and
test.  Each URI must pass an extensive array of tests.  If one of the filter
capacitors is just slightly out of tolerance the unit is rejected.

When all is said and done DMK makes only a few dollars profit on each URI
sold.  This also does not take into account the initial product design and
development, first revision beta units that were given away for evaluation,
or any of the setup and tooling charges that were incurred.

I state this not to garner sympathy, but to let you know that we offer URIs
to the amateur community at a price that benefits the community far more
than it enriches us.  I wish you success with your project.

David Kramer
DMK Engineering Inc.
310-544-1222



-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
[mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net]On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:49 AM
To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering

My question is how long does it take to ship and arrive?  Are these
things made to order?  (on the slow boat from China).  Seems like I
have been waiting too long and absolutely no communication.

I ordered three on March 3rd.  The only email I got was a receipt from
PayPal.  No order confirmation or shipping information.

For paying $14.95 for shipping I would expect UPS 3day or grounds and
a tracking number the same or next day of the order.

$209.85 for 3x ~$10 modified FOBs, there enough markup room for a
little customer support I think.

Payment Details
Item Price:             $209.85 USD
Total:          $224.80 USD
Buyer:          steve totaro

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.
<w7aor at narri.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions found?
> _______________________________________________
>  App_rpt mailing list
>  App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>  http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>
>
_______________________________________________
App_rpt mailing list
App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt



From stotaro at totarotechnologies.com  Sat Mar  8 01:03:34 2008
From: stotaro at totarotechnologies.com (Steve Totaro)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:03:34 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
In-Reply-To: <HDEMKEOCMJFPCAHOECOIOEHPELAA.dkramer@dmkeng.com>
References: <ea18e54a0803071049l521cf862g11bb632860b27aba@mail.gmail.com>
	<HDEMKEOCMJFPCAHOECOIOEHPELAA.dkramer@dmkeng.com>
Message-ID: <ea18e54a0803071703v540c3fccgfacaf8501eeea1db@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for giving me an update.  I suggest you use some form of
automation to keep your customers in the loop.  I am pretty sure USPS
does this as it is the norm for online stores and even small time Ebay
shops (USPS, FedEx, UPS, DHL, Airbourne....)

I appreciate the work you put in and as well as Dingotel, because
without copying Dingotel, this product would most likely not be
invented yet.  (Sure hope they don't have a patent on it but they
probably do or it was assigned to some other company because
www.dingotel.com appears to be gone, well that is an totally different
issue...)

Thanks again, I will give feedback on the list ASAP
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:39 PM, David Kramer <dkramer at dmkeng.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
>  Your order for 3 URI's shipped yesterday via insured USPS Priority Mail.  In
>  the future we will try to do a better job of sending out confirmation
>  emails.  Thank you for the suggestion.
>
>  Regarding your comment about ~$10 modified FOBs...  if you can use one of
>  these I encourage you to do so.  It will certainly save you money.  You
>  should know the differences however between those devices and URI.
>
>  First of all, the FOBs are made in gazillion quantities which helps drive
>  the cost down.  We built an initial batch of 100 URIs so we don't have quite
>  the same magnitude scale.  Secondly, the cheapo FOBs consist of a sound
>  chip, a plastic housing, connectors and not much else.  In order to make it
>  work with Asterisk/app_rpt you have to attach a few components to some very
>  tiny surface mount pins, something not easy to do.  Here is what URI
>  provides that you don't get with the FOBs:
>
>  RF filtering on all I/Os
>  3-pole high-fidelity low-pass active filters on both audio outputs with
>  connections for AC or DC coupling
>  Optional high output drive capability 2X gain amplifier
>  AC and DC coupled options for audio in
>  Provisions for connector-mounted EEPROM intended for storing configuration
>  data
>  Circuitry for PTT, CTCSS, and COR connections
>  3 user programmable I/Os
>  RoHS compliant product
>  USB cable
>
>  In 100 piece quantities, the components alone cost more than twice what a
>  single USB audio FOB costs from geeks.com.  That doesn't include the bare PC
>  board, component assembly labor, housing, machining, final assembly, and
>  test.  Each URI must pass an extensive array of tests.  If one of the filter
>  capacitors is just slightly out of tolerance the unit is rejected.
>
>  When all is said and done DMK makes only a few dollars profit on each URI
>  sold.  This also does not take into account the initial product design and
>  development, first revision beta units that were given away for evaluation,
>  or any of the setup and tooling charges that were incurred.
>
>  I state this not to garner sympathy, but to let you know that we offer URIs
>  to the amateur community at a price that benefits the community far more
>  than it enriches us.  I wish you success with your project.
>
>  David Kramer
>  DMK Engineering Inc.
>  310-544-1222
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
>  [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net]On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
>  Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:49 AM
>  To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
>  Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
>
>  My question is how long does it take to ship and arrive?  Are these
>  things made to order?  (on the slow boat from China).  Seems like I
>  have been waiting too long and absolutely no communication.
>
>  I ordered three on March 3rd.  The only email I got was a receipt from
>  PayPal.  No order confirmation or shipping information.
>
>  For paying $14.95 for shipping I would expect UPS 3day or grounds and
>  a tracking number the same or next day of the order.
>
>  $209.85 for 3x ~$10 modified FOBs, there enough markup room for a
>  little customer support I think.
>
>  Payment Details
>  Item Price:             $209.85 USD
>  Total:          $224.80 USD
>  Buyer:          steve totaro
>
>  Thanks,
>  Steve Totaro
>
>  On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.
>  <w7aor at narri.org> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions found?
>  > _______________________________________________
>  >  App_rpt mailing list
>  >  App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>  >  http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>  >
>  >
>  _______________________________________________
>  App_rpt mailing list
>  App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>  http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  App_rpt mailing list
>  App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>  http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>


From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Mon Mar 10 06:36:28 2008
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:36:28 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] allstarlink nodes update
Message-ID: <F7C6C899-4701-4C88-86F8-3313B89F498F@jimsoffice.org>

I'm not sure if this is the correct list to report things like this,  
but i am having issues updating the allstar node listing:

root at k6jwn-app-rpt:/var/lib/asterisk# wget http:// 
nodes1.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/nodes.pl
--23:36:57--  http://nodes1.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/nodes.pl
            => `nodes.pl'
Resolving nodes1.allstarlink.org... 209.134.25.160
Connecting to nodes1.allstarlink.org|209.134.25.160|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403
23:36:58 ERROR 403: (no description).

root at k6jwn-app-rpt:/var/lib/asterisk# wget http:// 
nodes2.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/nodes.pl
--23:37:03--  http://nodes2.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/nodes.pl
            => `nodes.pl'
Resolving nodes2.allstarlink.org... 209.134.25.160
Connecting to nodes2.allstarlink.org|209.134.25.160|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
23:37:03 ERROR 404: Not Found.

root at k6jwn-app-rpt:/var/lib/asterisk# wget http:// 
nodes3.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/nodes.pl
--23:37:08--  http://nodes3.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/nodes.pl
            => `nodes.pl'
Resolving nodes3.allstarlink.org... 209.134.25.160
Connecting to nodes3.allstarlink.org|209.134.25.160|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
23:37:09 ERROR 404: Not Found.

root at k6jwn-app-rpt:/var/lib/asterisk# wget http:// 
nodes4.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/nodes.pl
--23:37:14--  http://nodes4.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/nodes.pl
            => `nodes.pl'
Resolving nodes4.allstarlink.org... 66.96.212.210
Connecting to nodes4.allstarlink.org|66.96.212.210|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error
23:37:14 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.



From guillaume.devoyon at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 09:07:02 2008
From: guillaume.devoyon at gmail.com (Guillaume Devoyon)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:07:02 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt] First contact
In-Reply-To: <0JXD0079MF33RL40@l-daemon>
References: <2ee58c680803070833p2b8d7fcenbca657429bc6bc12@mail.gmail.com>
	<0JXD0079MF33RL40@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <2ee58c680803100207k79892d88uf3a8330fd22d1a08@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Thank you for answers and all informations ...
I'll have to check this during the incoming week.
Has I became father for the second time, my free time has been reduced ;-)
But in france we have 15 "holidays" days for a new child....

I'll let you know

regards
Guillaume Devoyon f8arr
Merci et ? bient?t.




2008/3/7, David Powell-Williams <dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca>:
>
> Salut Guillaume:
>
> There are many experts on this list who may respond to you.  I am not one
> of
> these but will explain my understanding while you wait for more complete
> information.
>
> There are two important configuration files:
> The rpt.conf file determines the operational modes (simplex, duplex, etc),
> DTMF codes, CW ID, remote base programming et al.  This file is used for
> all
> the various radio interfaces.
>
> The usbradio.conf file sets up the USB FOB parameters and is unique to
> that
> interface. Switching between receive and transmit can be done in two ways:
> DSP squelch generation or hardware COS (carrier sensing).  This selection
> is
> made in the usbradio.conf file.
>
> Audio and DSP sensing levels are adjusted with the 'radio tune' utility,
> as
> described in http://app-rpt.qrvc.com/usbradio.pdf
>
> The files iax.conf and extensions.conf also need additions to support
> app-rpt operation.
>
> The best documentation that I have found are the sample conf files (and
> the
> C source code) which show every option.  The question is: Which options
> does
> one need?
>
> I am sure that many members of this list would provide you with copies of
> their customized conf files for you to study.  If you wish mine, please
> contact me off-list.
>
> An important consideration is the point from which you extract the audio
> from your receiver.  If you wish to use DSP squelch generation and CTCSS
> detection, the audio should be taken prior to the de-emphasis network, i.e
> .
> the discriminator.
>
> Je vous souhaite la bonne chance!
>
> David
> VE7MQ.
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt mailing list
> App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>



-- 
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rapidement, veuillez envoyer un mail ? mon adresse permanente :
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From guillaume.devoyon at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 10:38:13 2008
From: guillaume.devoyon at gmail.com (Guillaume Devoyon)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:38:13 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt] Dialogic card and ham radio
Message-ID: <2ee58c680803100338s2a867788n9ba9be20b7746e9a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have found a card D/120JCT-LS from dialogic.
Is someone use such card for ham radio purpose ..??


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From steve.w9sh at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 11:51:28 2008
From: steve.w9sh at gmail.com (Steven Henke)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:51:28 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt] First contact
In-Reply-To: <2ee58c680803100207k79892d88uf3a8330fd22d1a08@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ee58c680803070833p2b8d7fcenbca657429bc6bc12@mail.gmail.com>
	<0JXD0079MF33RL40@l-daemon>
	<2ee58c680803100207k79892d88uf3a8330fd22d1a08@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2ed85230803100451ua9ce2f2u9f06b29aa272560c@mail.gmail.com>

Congratulations!
Let us know when we can see a picture of the new baby holding a microphone.
Steve Henke, W9SH

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Guillaume Devoyon <
guillaume.devoyon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for answers and all informations ...
> I'll have to check this during the incoming week.
> Has I became father for the second time, my free time has been reduced ;-)
> But in france we have 15 "holidays" days for a new child....
>
> I'll let you know
>
> regards
> Guillaume Devoyon f8arr
> Merci et ? bient?t.
>
>
>
>
> 2008/3/7, David Powell-Williams <dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca>:
>
> > Salut Guillaume:
> >
> > There are many experts on this list who may respond to you.  I am not
> > one of
> > these but will explain my understanding while you wait for more complete
> > information.
> >
> > There are two important configuration files:
> > The rpt.conf file determines the operational modes (simplex, duplex,
> > etc),
> > DTMF codes, CW ID, remote base programming et al.  This file is used for
> > all
> > the various radio interfaces.
> >
> > The usbradio.conf file sets up the USB FOB parameters and is unique to
> > that
> > interface. Switching between receive and transmit can be done in two
> > ways:
> > DSP squelch generation or hardware COS (carrier sensing).  This
> > selection is
> > made in the usbradio.conf file.
> >
> > Audio and DSP sensing levels are adjusted with the 'radio tune' utility,
> > as
> > described in http://app-rpt.qrvc.com/usbradio.pdf
> >
> > The files iax.conf and extensions.conf also need additions to support
> > app-rpt operation.
> >
> > The best documentation that I have found are the sample conf files (and
> > the
> > C source code) which show every option.  The question is: Which options
> > does
> > one need?
> >
> > I am sure that many members of this list would provide you with copies
> > of
> > their customized conf files for you to study.  If you wish mine, please
> > contact me off-list.
> >
> > An important consideration is the point from which you extract the audio
> > from your receiver.  If you wish to use DSP squelch generation and CTCSS
> > detection, the audio should be taken prior to the de-emphasis network,
> > i.e.
> > the discriminator.
> >
> > Je vous souhaite la bonne chance!
> >
> > David
> > VE7MQ.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt mailing list
> > App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> > http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ce mail est envoy? depuis un compte gmail temporaire. Pour ?tre lu
> rapidement, veuillez envoyer un mail ? mon adresse permanente :
> guillaume.devoyon at f8arr.org.
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt mailing list
> App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>
>
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From stotaro at totarotechnologies.com  Mon Mar 10 20:22:01 2008
From: stotaro at totarotechnologies.com (Steve Totaro)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:22:01 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
In-Reply-To: <ea18e54a0803071703v540c3fccgfacaf8501eeea1db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ea18e54a0803071049l521cf862g11bb632860b27aba@mail.gmail.com>
	<HDEMKEOCMJFPCAHOECOIOEHPELAA.dkramer@dmkeng.com>
	<ea18e54a0803071703v540c3fccgfacaf8501eeea1db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ea18e54a0803101322k3cb09451n4e473f22973c13c9@mail.gmail.com>

Just to give an update, I received my three URIs last Friday.  The
packaging was great (and I even got a page from the LA Times ;-)

The units are very well made and the labeling complete with pinout is
brilliant!  No docs to lose or lookup.  Overall, I am very impressed
with DMK (communication needs improvement as I said earlier) but I am
very happy at this point.

Now to get these units into production.  I will followup with more
details in a new post.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
> Thanks for giving me an update.  I suggest you use some form of
>  automation to keep your customers in the loop.  I am pretty sure USPS
>  does this as it is the norm for online stores and even small time Ebay
>  shops (USPS, FedEx, UPS, DHL, Airbourne....)
>
>  I appreciate the work you put in and as well as Dingotel, because
>  without copying Dingotel, this product would most likely not be
>  invented yet.  (Sure hope they don't have a patent on it but they
>  probably do or it was assigned to some other company because
>  www.dingotel.com appears to be gone, well that is an totally different
>  issue...)
>
>  Thanks again, I will give feedback on the list ASAP
>  Steve Totaro
>
>
>
>  On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:39 PM, David Kramer <dkramer at dmkeng.com> wrote:
>  > Hi Steve,
>  >
>  >  Your order for 3 URI's shipped yesterday via insured USPS Priority Mail.  In
>  >  the future we will try to do a better job of sending out confirmation
>  >  emails.  Thank you for the suggestion.
>  >
>  >  Regarding your comment about ~$10 modified FOBs...  if you can use one of
>  >  these I encourage you to do so.  It will certainly save you money.  You
>  >  should know the differences however between those devices and URI.
>  >
>  >  First of all, the FOBs are made in gazillion quantities which helps drive
>  >  the cost down.  We built an initial batch of 100 URIs so we don't have quite
>  >  the same magnitude scale.  Secondly, the cheapo FOBs consist of a sound
>  >  chip, a plastic housing, connectors and not much else.  In order to make it
>  >  work with Asterisk/app_rpt you have to attach a few components to some very
>  >  tiny surface mount pins, something not easy to do.  Here is what URI
>  >  provides that you don't get with the FOBs:
>  >
>  >  RF filtering on all I/Os
>  >  3-pole high-fidelity low-pass active filters on both audio outputs with
>  >  connections for AC or DC coupling
>  >  Optional high output drive capability 2X gain amplifier
>  >  AC and DC coupled options for audio in
>  >  Provisions for connector-mounted EEPROM intended for storing configuration
>  >  data
>  >  Circuitry for PTT, CTCSS, and COR connections
>  >  3 user programmable I/Os
>  >  RoHS compliant product
>  >  USB cable
>  >
>  >  In 100 piece quantities, the components alone cost more than twice what a
>  >  single USB audio FOB costs from geeks.com.  That doesn't include the bare PC
>  >  board, component assembly labor, housing, machining, final assembly, and
>  >  test.  Each URI must pass an extensive array of tests.  If one of the filter
>  >  capacitors is just slightly out of tolerance the unit is rejected.
>  >
>  >  When all is said and done DMK makes only a few dollars profit on each URI
>  >  sold.  This also does not take into account the initial product design and
>  >  development, first revision beta units that were given away for evaluation,
>  >  or any of the setup and tooling charges that were incurred.
>  >
>  >  I state this not to garner sympathy, but to let you know that we offer URIs
>  >  to the amateur community at a price that benefits the community far more
>  >  than it enriches us.  I wish you success with your project.
>  >
>  >  David Kramer
>  >  DMK Engineering Inc.
>  >  310-544-1222
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
>  >  [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net]On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
>  >  Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:49 AM
>  >  To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
>  >  Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
>  >
>  >  My question is how long does it take to ship and arrive?  Are these
>  >  things made to order?  (on the slow boat from China).  Seems like I
>  >  have been waiting too long and absolutely no communication.
>  >
>  >  I ordered three on March 3rd.  The only email I got was a receipt from
>  >  PayPal.  No order confirmation or shipping information.
>  >
>  >  For paying $14.95 for shipping I would expect UPS 3day or grounds and
>  >  a tracking number the same or next day of the order.
>  >
>  >  $209.85 for 3x ~$10 modified FOBs, there enough markup room for a
>  >  little customer support I think.
>  >
>  >  Payment Details
>  >  Item Price:             $209.85 USD
>  >  Total:          $224.80 USD
>  >  Buyer:          steve totaro
>  >
>  >  Thanks,
>  >  Steve Totaro
>  >
>  >  On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.
>  >  <w7aor at narri.org> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions found?
>  >  > _______________________________________________
>  >  >  App_rpt mailing list
>  >  >  App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>  >  >  http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  _______________________________________________
>  >  App_rpt mailing list
>  >  App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>  >  http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>  >
>  >  _______________________________________________
>  >  App_rpt mailing list
>  >  App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
>  >  http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>  >
>


From stotaro at totarotechnologies.com  Mon Mar 10 20:29:16 2008
From: stotaro at totarotechnologies.com (Steve Totaro)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:29:16 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt] SVN Checkout of New app_rpt, howto?
Message-ID: <ea18e54a0803101329s24898113xccb3aeb1de4358e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am trying to checkout the newest trunk of app_rpt (I think this is
the only source with the URI drivers?)

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

[root at localhost src]# svn co
https://www.xelatec.com/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk app_rpt
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk'
svn: PROPFIND of '/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk': 302 Found
(https://www.xelatec.com)

Thanks,
Steve Totaro


From steve.w9sh at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 00:41:41 2008
From: steve.w9sh at gmail.com (Steven Henke)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:41:41 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt] SVN Checkout of New app_rpt, howto?
In-Reply-To: <ea18e54a0803101329s24898113xccb3aeb1de4358e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ea18e54a0803101329s24898113xccb3aeb1de4358e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2ed85230803101741x7ab4215ew7e979748fc1aa255@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Steve,
Contact me at w9sh at arrl.net and I'll get in touch with you and take you
through the installation process.
73,
Steve Henke

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Steve Totaro <
stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am trying to checkout the newest trunk of app_rpt (I think this is
> the only source with the URI drivers?)
>
> Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
>
> [root at localhost src]# svn co
> https://www.xelatec.com/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk app_rpt
> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk'
> svn: PROPFIND of '/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk': 302 Found
> (https://www.xelatec.com)
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
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From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Tue Mar 11 05:50:59 2008
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:50:59 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] DTMF processing?
Message-ID: <91C008EA-5C28-4EC7-8CDA-613870EDABCB@jimsoffice.org>

I have just setup another node and I am having an issue with DTMF,  
the node is decoding my dtmf just fine, however it's not actually  
going through and processing anything.  I can control it via rpt fun  
<node> <cmd> and that works fine, but something is missing..

The configs were copied over from a good known working node (and node  
numbers changed)..

What did I miss?

Thanks.

Jim / K6JWN


From steve.w9sh at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 12:04:56 2008
From: steve.w9sh at gmail.com (Steven Henke)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:04:56 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt] DTMF processing?
In-Reply-To: <91C008EA-5C28-4EC7-8CDA-613870EDABCB@jimsoffice.org>
References: <91C008EA-5C28-4EC7-8CDA-613870EDABCB@jimsoffice.org>
Message-ID: <e2ed85230803110504k1e0f2b30yabda8433ee125cd1@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

In rpt.conf try...
propagate_dtmf = yes   ; DTMF sent to system from link gets
     ; repeated onto main system output (optional)

73,
Steve Henke, W9SH

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:50 AM, James Nessen <nessenj at jimsoffice.org>
wrote:

> I have just setup another node and I am having an issue with DTMF,
> the node is decoding my dtmf just fine, however it's not actually
> going through and processing anything.  I can control it via rpt fun
> <node> <cmd> and that works fine, but something is missing..
>
> The configs were copied over from a good known working node (and node
> numbers changed)..
>
> What did I miss?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim / K6JWN
> _______________________________________________
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From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Tue Mar 11 14:40:10 2008
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:40:10 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] DTMF processing?
In-Reply-To: <e2ed85230803110504k1e0f2b30yabda8433ee125cd1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91C008EA-5C28-4EC7-8CDA-613870EDABCB@jimsoffice.org>
	<e2ed85230803110504k1e0f2b30yabda8433ee125cd1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <69C6EA6E-7D23-439F-A328-30C82BC11ECF@jimsoffice.org>

Hi Steve,

I made the changes you suggested and it didn't change.  Just to add  
on, I am able to query the status of the node and get the time, etc,  
but when it comes to connecting/disconnecting, that's where things  
come to a halt..

Thanks.

Jim / K6JWN

On Mar 11, 2008, at 5:04 AM, Steven Henke wrote:

> Jim,
>
> In rpt.conf try...
> propagate_dtmf = yes   ; DTMF sent to system from link gets
>      ; repeated onto main system output (optional)
>
> 73,
> Steve Henke, W9SH
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:50 AM, James Nessen  
> <nessenj at jimsoffice.org> wrote:
> I have just setup another node and I am having an issue with DTMF,
> the node is decoding my dtmf just fine, however it's not actually
> going through and processing anything.  I can control it via rpt fun
> <node> <cmd> and that works fine, but something is missing..
>
> The configs were copied over from a good known working node (and node
> numbers changed)..
>
> What did I miss?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim / K6JWN
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt mailing list
> App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
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From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Tue Mar 11 16:02:52 2008
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:02:52 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] DTMF processing?
In-Reply-To: <e2ed85230803110504k1e0f2b30yabda8433ee125cd1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91C008EA-5C28-4EC7-8CDA-613870EDABCB@jimsoffice.org>
	<e2ed85230803110504k1e0f2b30yabda8433ee125cd1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5317DC12-7952-461E-8E2C-F080BA8E64E4@jimsoffice.org>

So, after a little more troubleshooting this morning, I ran into the  
following:

I had to change my funcchar to something other than * (because my  
controller sees the * as local control and drops PTT towards the  
other linked ports), I noticed that when I did, I was not able to  
control the node (ran rpt reload under asterisk console).  However,  
once I changed it back to *, I was able to DTMF the node around..

On my other node, I have my funcchar set to a number instead of the *  
and it works fine, what are the limitations to setting the funcchar  
command under rpt.conf?

Thanks.

Jim / K6JWN

On Mar 11, 2008, at 5:04 AM, Steven Henke wrote:

> Jim,
>
> In rpt.conf try...
> propagate_dtmf = yes   ; DTMF sent to system from link gets
>      ; repeated onto main system output (optional)
>
> 73,
> Steve Henke, W9SH
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:50 AM, James Nessen  
> <nessenj at jimsoffice.org> wrote:
> I have just setup another node and I am having an issue with DTMF,
> the node is decoding my dtmf just fine, however it's not actually
> going through and processing anything.  I can control it via rpt fun
> <node> <cmd> and that works fine, but something is missing..
>
> The configs were copied over from a good known working node (and node
> numbers changed)..
>
> What did I miss?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim / K6JWN
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt mailing list
> App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
>
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From ke6pcv at cal-net.org  Thu Mar 13 07:12:40 2008
From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:12:40 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] Thanks and Questions
Message-ID: <00b401c884d9$a03d7110$4b01a8c0@marshall2>

Greetings, 

First off, I wanted to thank everyone for such a great system that you guys have put together. It just blows me away how much work
has been put into this project.  From the install scripts for the OS and software to the tuning software for levels and signals on
the USB FOB.  I was amazed at how good the tuning scripts worked when I went through the radio tuning setup.  All I can say is
"Unbelievable!" <GRIN>

I have a few questions, the first regarding the usbradio.conf file and one of the configuration settings in that file.


I see this explanation in the usbradio.conf.sample file. 

eeprom=1            ; 1 = Indicates that an EEPROM internal to the radio


I see this setting in my usbradio.conf file.

eeprom=0            ; unless you have a cable w/eeprom

Is this talking about the URI FOB with the eeprom in it? 
Just got done with my install tonight and am using the URI FOB, should I change this setting from a 0 to a 1? Or is this setting for
something else?

Also, when you get done doing the radio tuning procedure as documented by Steve Henke in "The Asterisk with app_rpt Server
Installation Process" (page 7), and you save the configuration by using the CLI command "radio tune save" , where does that file get
saved to? The eeprom on the URI FOB?  Or somewhere else?  Just wondering. 

Thanks, for your help.

Node 2067 is online and working great with the URI FOB and a Motorola M120 radio.

I am having fun and learning.  

Marshall - ke6pcv 



From marshall at cal-net.org  Thu Mar 13 15:41:32 2008
From: marshall at cal-net.org (marshall at cal-net.org)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:41:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [App_rpt] Thanks and Questions
Message-ID: <1736.67.127.110.155.1205422892.squirrel@mail.cal-net.org>

Greetings,

First off, I wanted to thank everyone for such a great system that you
guys have put together. It just blows me away how much work has been put
into this project.  From the install scripts for the OS and software to
the tuning software for levels and signals on the USB FOB.  I was amazed
at how good the tuning scripts worked when I went through the radio tuning
setup.  All I can say is "Unbelievable!" <GRIN>

I have a few questions, the first regarding the usbradio.conf file and one
of the configuration settings in that file.

I see this explanation in the usbradio.conf.sample file.

eeprom=1            ; 1 = Indicates that an EEPROM internal to the radio

I see this setting in my usbradio.conf file.

eeprom=0            ; unless you have a cable w/eeprom

Is this talking about the URI FOB with the eeprom in it?
Just got done with my install tonight and am using the URI FOB, should I
change this setting from a 0 to a 1? Or is this setting for something
else?

Also, when you get done doing the radio tuning procedure as documented by
Steve Henke in "The Asterisk with app_rpt Server Installation Process"
(page 7), and you save the configuration by using the CLI command "radio
tune save" , where does that file get saved to? The eeprom on the URI FOB?
 Or somewhere else?  Just wondering.

Thanks, for your help.

Node 2067 is online and working great with the URI FOB and a Motorola M120
radio.

I am having fun and learning.

Marshall - ke6pcv




From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Fri Mar 14 01:24:03 2008
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:24:03 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] Test message
Message-ID: <47D9D3B3.3050101@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

This is a test


From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Fri Mar 14 14:34:06 2008
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:34:06 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt] Test message
Message-ID: <47DA8CDE.7050904@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

Test message


From stotaro at totarotechnologies.com  Tue Mar 18 16:11:55 2008
From: stotaro at totarotechnologies.com (Steve Totaro)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:11:55 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt] SVN Checkout of New app_rpt, howto?
In-Reply-To: <e2ed85230803101741x7ab4215ew7e979748fc1aa255@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ea18e54a0803101329s24898113xccb3aeb1de4358e@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2ed85230803101741x7ab4215ew7e979748fc1aa255@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ea18e54a0803180911h8e99bf2sb900c96d3aa80f08@mail.gmail.com>

Steven (and list),

Is there no way to make the new app_rpt work without using the ISO
(for the new URI)?

I understand that the ISO is the path of least resistance but there
are some very serious security issues with FreePBX and who knows with
a 3rd party customized ISO?

I can post some known and working FreePBX exploits but I prefer to not
make it that easy.

My box is going to be on a routable IP (public) and I would prefer to
have my own kernel, distro, no-FreePBX, and other security measures.
In other words I want to lock it down as much as possible.

Any advice?  I don't really understand why I cannot just SVN co
app_rpt and compile on an existing asterisk box.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Steven Henke <steve.w9sh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> Contact me at w9sh at arrl.net and I'll get in touch with you and take you
> through the installation process.
> 73,
> Steve Henke
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Steve Totaro
> <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to checkout the newest trunk of app_rpt (I think this is
> > the only source with the URI drivers?)
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
> >
> > [root at localhost src]# svn co
> > https://www.xelatec.com/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk app_rpt
> > svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk'
> > svn: PROPFIND of '/viewvc/app_rpt/asterisk/trunk': 302 Found
> > (https://www.xelatec.com)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve Totaro
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt mailing list
> > App_rpt at lists.illiana.net
> > http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt
> >
>
>
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>


From stotaro at totarotechnologies.com  Tue Mar 25 16:14:41 2008
From: stotaro at totarotechnologies.com (Steve Totaro)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:14:41 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
In-Reply-To: <ea18e54a0803101322k3cb09451n4e473f22973c13c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ea18e54a0803071049l521cf862g11bb632860b27aba@mail.gmail.com>
	<HDEMKEOCMJFPCAHOECOIOEHPELAA.dkramer@dmkeng.com>
	<ea18e54a0803071703v540c3fccgfacaf8501eeea1db@mail.gmail.com>
	<ea18e54a0803101322k3cb09451n4e473f22973c13c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ea18e54a0803250914t3d1f2d95n697fa571e02bec32@mail.gmail.com>

Just an update, a few days after receiving the URI, I got a second
smaller package with the USB cables.  I was impressed, most vendors
cut costs buy not providing USB cables (I hate that).  Another thumbs
up for DMK.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
> Just to give an update, I received my three URIs last Friday.  The
>  packaging was great (and I even got a page from the LA Times ;-)
>
>  The units are very well made and the labeling complete with pinout is
>  brilliant!  No docs to lose or lookup.  Overall, I am very impressed
>  with DMK (communication needs improvement as I said earlier) but I am
>  very happy at this point.
>
>  Now to get these units into production.  I will followup with more
>  details in a new post.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Steve Totaro
>
>
>
>  On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Steve Totaro
>  <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
>  > Thanks for giving me an update.  I suggest you use some form of
>  >  automation to keep your customers in the loop.  I am pretty sure USPS
>  >  does this as it is the norm for online stores and even small time Ebay
>  >  shops (USPS, FedEx, UPS, DHL, Airbourne....)
>  >
>  >  I appreciate the work you put in and as well as Dingotel, because
>  >  without copying Dingotel, this product would most likely not be
>  >  invented yet.  (Sure hope they don't have a patent on it but they
>  >  probably do or it was assigned to some other company because
>  >  www.dingotel.com appears to be gone, well that is an totally different
>  >  issue...)
>  >
>  >  Thanks again, I will give feedback on the list ASAP
>  >  Steve Totaro
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:39 PM, David Kramer <dkramer at dmkeng.com> wrote:
>  >  > Hi Steve,
>  >  >
>  >  >  Your order for 3 URI's shipped yesterday via insured USPS Priority Mail.  In
>  >  >  the future we will try to do a better job of sending out confirmation
>  >  >  emails.  Thank you for the suggestion.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Regarding your comment about ~$10 modified FOBs...  if you can use one of
>  >  >  these I encourage you to do so.  It will certainly save you money.  You
>  >  >  should know the differences however between those devices and URI.
>  >  >
>  >  >  First of all, the FOBs are made in gazillion quantities which helps drive
>  >  >  the cost down.  We built an initial batch of 100 URIs so we don't have quite
>  >  >  the same magnitude scale.  Secondly, the cheapo FOBs consist of a sound
>  >  >  chip, a plastic housing, connectors and not much else.  In order to make it
>  >  >  work with Asterisk/app_rpt you have to attach a few components to some very
>  >  >  tiny surface mount pins, something not easy to do.  Here is what URI
>  >  >  provides that you don't get with the FOBs:
>  >  >
>  >  >  RF filtering on all I/Os
>  >  >  3-pole high-fidelity low-pass active filters on both audio outputs with
>  >  >  connections for AC or DC coupling
>  >  >  Optional high output drive capability 2X gain amplifier
>  >  >  AC and DC coupled options for audio in
>  >  >  Provisions for connector-mounted EEPROM intended for storing configuration
>  >  >  data
>  >  >  Circuitry for PTT, CTCSS, and COR connections
>  >  >  3 user programmable I/Os
>  >  >  RoHS compliant product
>  >  >  USB cable
>  >  >
>  >  >  In 100 piece quantities, the components alone cost more than twice what a
>  >  >  single USB audio FOB costs from geeks.com.  That doesn't include the bare PC
>  >  >  board, component assembly labor, housing, machining, final assembly, and
>  >  >  test.  Each URI must pass an extensive array of tests.  If one of the filter
>  >  >  capacitors is just slightly out of tolerance the unit is rejected.
>  >  >
>  >  >  When all is said and done DMK makes only a few dollars profit on each URI
>  >  >  sold.  This also does not take into account the initial product design and
>  >  >  development, first revision beta units that were given away for evaluation,
>  >  >  or any of the setup and tooling charges that were incurred.
>  >  >
>  >  >  I state this not to garner sympathy, but to let you know that we offer URIs
>  >  >  to the amateur community at a price that benefits the community far more
>  >  >  than it enriches us.  I wish you success with your project.
>  >  >
>  >  >  David Kramer
>  >  >  DMK Engineering Inc.
>  >  >  310-544-1222
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  From: app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net
>  >  >  [mailto:app_rpt-bounces at lists.illiana.net]On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
>  >  >  Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:49 AM
>  >  >  To: Asterisk Repeater Controler
>  >  >  Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering
>  >  >
>  >  >  My question is how long does it take to ship and arrive?  Are these
>  >  >  things made to order?  (on the slow boat from China).  Seems like I
>  >  >  have been waiting too long and absolutely no communication.
>  >  >
>  >  >  I ordered three on March 3rd.  The only email I got was a receipt from
>  >  >  PayPal.  No order confirmation or shipping information.
>  >  >
>  >  >  For paying $14.95 for shipping I would expect UPS 3day or grounds and
>  >  >  a tracking number the same or next day of the order.
>  >  >
>  >  >  $209.85 for 3x ~$10 modified FOBs, there enough markup room for a
>  >  >  little customer support I think.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Payment Details
>  >  >  Item Price:             $209.85 USD
>  >  >  Total:          $224.80 USD
>  >  >  Buyer:          steve totaro
>  >  >
>  >  >  Thanks,
>  >  >  Steve Totaro
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nevada Amateur Radio Repeaters, Inc.
>  >  >  <w7aor at narri.org> wrote:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Just Placed an order with DMK Engineering. Where are instructions found?
>  >  >  > _______________________________________________
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