[App_rpt-users] Kerchunk filter or equivalent of pulseback timer?

Matt Beasant g4rky at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Sep 12 15:10:13 UTC 2009


Thanks for the info Steve,
Thats great news for me, I occasionally deploy a portable system which uses
the repeater pair in the same way - Its not possible for me to use a
separate link freq for this system. If I need to link to another one of the
portable repeaters, I get this ping-pong effect between them which this
timer will fix for me.

I searched the qrvc.com website for rxondelay but couldn't find any info -
can you tell me which version of chan_usbradio supports this please?

Thanks,

Matt
G4RKY


2009/9/11 Stephen Rodgers <sales at qrvc.com>

> Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) wrote:
> > Hi All;
> >
> > One of the local repeaters is connecting to the VE3TNK HUB (#2200) using
> > an off-site link radio (since there's no IP at the repeater site).
> >
> > Unfortunately, the analog repeater controller can not be set for zero
> > hang time, and therefore the short hang time is being exposed to the hub
> > and all of the downstream nodes.
> >
> > Is there a kerchunk filter or the equivalent of a pulseback timer (as
> > there is in IRLP) to compensate (filter out) such kerchunks?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ramesh.
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>
> Something may not be described clearly enough, but what I read out of it
> is that you have a dedicated downlink radio from the IP-less repeater
> site on a different frequency than the repeater output. When you say
> "link" this is what I believe it mean.
>
> For a dedicated downlink channel separate from the repeater controller,
> you should be able to have zero hang time by bypassing the controller
> entirely and just retransmitting what comes in on the repeater input on
> the downlink transmitter from the remote repeater site. This is how I
> implement systems on remote sites without IP connectivity.
>
> If you are just using a simplex radio on to talk in to the repeater,
> then you are not implementing a link, you just have a radio interfaced
> to an app_rpt port tuned to the repeater pair. (Note: I try to
> discourage people from doing this it is just not a good way to engineer
> a communications system-- Your radio can jam the repeater input and
> cause problems for emergency traffic. Link traffic should be uplinked
> and downlinked on a dedicated link frequency to avoid this)
>
> All of that said, there is a new config option in the chan_usbradio and
> xpmr sources (rxondelay) which will hold off the COR recognition when
> PTT is de-asserted by the app_rpt port. I believe the units are
> milliseconds, but since Jim Dixon implemented this he would know best.
> This is  meant for simplex radios which assert or glitch COR during the
> transmit to receive turnaround time but if the delay is made long enough
> it could be used to filter out the hang time on the repeater output.
>
> Steve
> WA6ZFT
>
>
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