[App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

Mon Mar 8 08:58:18 UTC 2010

Yeah, that did it ;) Thank you!

Since we run two permanently linked repeaters I wonder whether it is
possible to "passthrough" the incoming PL not only local but through the
other repeater using IAX-protocol? Are there any extensions in IAX that
would allow to add some payload like PL-tone-information? That would make it
possible to extend our "subtone-user-group-calling" across more repeaters.

73,
Jann

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:45 PM
> To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
> 
> 
> I verified your report and indeed it was only putting out the 
> default tone. I located and fixed the problem.
> 
> You still have to specify a default CTCSS tone (which will be 
> transmitted whether there is an input or not, and whether or 
> not there is CTCSS tone on the input).
> 
> I just sent the new software to Steve RoDgers and he will put 
> it in SVN later this morning.
> 
> JIM
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> > From: jann at gmx.de
> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
> > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:57:47 +0100
> >
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > I set 88.5 Hz now as a default CTCSS-tone:
> >
> > hdwtype=0
> > rxboost=1
> > rxctcssrelax=1
> > txctcssdefault=88.5
> > 
> rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10
> > 0.0,10 
> > 
> 3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,
> > 156.7, 
> > 
> 162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
> 3.6,241.8,250.
> > 3
> > 
> txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10
> > 0.0,10 
> > 
> 3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,
> > 156.7, 
> > 
> 162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
> 3.6,241.8,250.
> > 3
> > rxctcssoverride=1
> > carrierfrom=dsp
> > ctcssfrom=dsp
> > rxdemod=flat
> > txprelim=yes
> >
> > I'm able to open the repeater with any or none subtone. The 
> repeater 
> > is sending 88.5 Hz subtone all the time. It doesn't matter which 
> > subtone I use on my handheld.
> >
> > I want the repeater to send out the subtone I use on my 
> handheld, but 
> > it doesn't.
> >
> > I'm currently at the repeaters site and connected to your 
> repeaters. 
> > Maybe we can have a short chat on RF.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > 73,
> > Jann
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com]
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:22 PM
> >> To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
> >>
> >>
> >> You have to set a txctcssdefault frequency. If you dont want PL 
> >> unless someone is encoding it, then include "itxctcss=yes"
> >> in app_rpt.c (in the clause for the node), but you still have to 
> >> specify some tx default frequency whether you ever use it or not.
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------
> >>> From: jann at gmx.de
> >>> To: telesistant at hotmail.com; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
> >>> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:55:47 +0100
> >>>
> >>> Hello Jim,
> >>>
> >>> thank you for the quick response. I did try the new
> >> revision 569, but
> >>> it doesn't work. My config:
> >>>
> >>> hdwtype=0
> >>> rxboost=1
> >>> rxctcssrelax=1
> >>> ;txctcssdefault=71.9
> >>>
> >> 
> rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,1
> >> 0
> >>> 0.0,10
> >>>
> >> 
> 3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4
> >> ,
> >>> 156.7,
> >>>
> >> 162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
> >> 3.6,241.8,250.
> >>> 3
> >>>
> >> 
> txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,1
> >> 0
> >>> 0.0,10
> >>>
> >> 
> 3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4
> >> ,
> >>> 156.7,
> >>>
> >> 162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
> >> 3.6,241.8,250.
> >>> 3
> >>> rxctcssoverride=1
> >>> carrierfrom=dsp
> >>> ctcssfrom=dsp
> >>> rxdemod=flat
> >>> txprelim=yes
> >>>
> >>> The repeater can be opened now without a subtone. Unfortunately 
> >>> subtones will not be detected and regenerated by the repeater or 
> >>> simply passed through the repeater. Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Tnx,
> >>> 73,
> >>> Jann
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:05 PM
> >>>> To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
> >>>> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes (sarcasm
> >>>> intended) to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio to 
> accommodate 
> >>>> this need.
> >>>>
> >>>> A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN
> >> later today
> >>>> once Steve gets home and does it.
> >>>>
> >>>> It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf, 
> >>>> allowing the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put 
> >>>> "rxctcssoverride = yes"
> >>>> in the file.
> >>>>
> >>>> You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally
> >> (as if you
> >>>> were going to require them for access), but the receiver 
> will not 
> >>>> require any tone to actually receive.
> >>>>
> >>>> JIM WB6NIL
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>> From: jann at gmx.de
> >>>>> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >>>>> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
> >>>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is
> >>>> much traffic
> >>>>> on our repeater we are used to use different subtones for
> >> different
> >>>>> user groups just for the initial call to request a group
> >> member to
> >>>>> continue the qso without subtone (so nobody else in the
> >>>> group will be disturbed).
> >>>>> Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these 
> >>>>> configurations in
> >>>>> usbradio.conf:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS 
> dsp-mode) 
> >>>>> hdwtype=0
> >>>>> ;txctcssdefault=71.9
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> 
> rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4
> >>>> ,
> >>>>> 100.0,
> >>>>>
> >>>> 103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
> >>>> 6.2,151.4,156.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> 
> 7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2
> >>>> 4
> >>>>> 1.8,25
> >>>>> 0.3
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> 
> txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4
> >>>> ,
> >>>>> 100.0,
> >>>>>
> >>>> 103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
> >>>> 6.2,151.4,156.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> 
> 7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2
> >>>> 4
> >>>>> 1.8,25
> >>>>> 0.3
> >>>>> carrierfrom=dsp
> >>>>> ctcssfrom=dsp
> >>>>> rxdemod=flat
> >>>>> txprelim=yes
> >>>>>
> >>>>> #2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
> >>>>> hdwtype=0
> >>>>> carrierfrom=dsp
> >>>>> ctcssfrom=no
> >>>>> rxdemod=flat
> >>>>> txprelim=yes
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater
> >> in "carrier
> >>>>> squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be
> >>>> decoded/encoded by the
> >>>>> software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz
> >> passthrough).
> >>>>> Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by
> >>>> the software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> 73,
> >>>>> Jann
> >>>>> DG8NGN
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jann Traschewski, Drosselstr.1, D-90513 Zirndorf, Germany
> >>>>> Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: 
> jann at gmx.de
> >>>>> Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ 
> UIN: 4130182
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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