From keith at handscombe.co.uk  Wed Sep  1 16:24:24 2010
From: keith at handscombe.co.uk (keith handscombe)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 17:24:24 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 18, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1283270403.20103.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
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Message-ID: <000f01cb49f2$24739920$6d5acb60$@co.uk>

2. Backup Machine

As reference in reply to David Osborn.

Many thanks David

My etc/resolv.conf is:

nameserver 192.168.1.1
nameserver 194.168.4.100
nameserver 194.168.8.100

I have now created a full backup David but did as follows

Booted from a G4L clone utility and created a disk to disk clone making sure
the destination disk was larger than the source disk. I then took cloned
disk and installed into another Pc and booted. After 2 reboots the node is
now working  on the new hardware. Many thanks for your help David and all. I
have also now set a static IP and DNS and made changes to the Fortinet
firewall device installation as this too was causing me a headache.
What surprised me and maybe it's being use to Windows based OS is the clone
disk was a clone from an Intel based CPU and now is in a AMD FX60 chipset
board.  What Linux guru can explain how this works when Windows seems to
complain and by now BSOD would be happening?

Once again many thanks node all up and working

Keith Handscombe

Node:2498 All Star
Node:5503 Echolink
Node:5503 IRLP

www.g7dnt.co.uk


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Jim Dixon (Neil Addis (WA5JXY))
   2. Re: Backup machine (David Osborn)
   3. Re: What am I doing Wrong-Playback Command (KI6PSP (Ed))
   4. A few minor details (kb8ude at gmail.com)
   5. Playback works, now for MP3Player (KI6PSP (Ed))
   6. web transceiver (Greg Thornwall)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:14:34 -0600
From: "Neil Addis (WA5JXY)" <wa5jxy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Jim Dixon
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
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So sorry to hear about Jim.

Hope he recovers soon and then takes it easy for a while.
His talents are greatly appreciated by everyone!

Our thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.

Sincerely,
Neil Addis
WA5JXY


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:13:14 +0100
From: "David Osborn" <david.osborn at manx.net>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Backup machine
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:43:15 +0100
From: "keith handscombe" <keith at handscombe.co.uk>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Backup machine
To: <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
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Good evening all,

New at this so sorry if a stupid question. I run node 2498 (Echolink 5503
and IRLP 5503). I wanted to create a backup pc of my fully working node and
as I have a spare PIV 2Ghz Pc. I did the following.

1. Installed the Centos 5.5 CD onto the new pc with USB Sound fob in USB
port.( This device I have already tested and know this works)
2. Followed and all updates were completed in about 40 minutes
3. I was prompted for an IP address and I selected DHCP
4. When asked my password I selected a high encryption password
5. Then finally asked to insert my node number...2498
6. Password as supplied by All star on some months ago I then typed in.

I was then at the logon prompt so

Logon with root
Password used and I was at the console 

I then deleted the asterisk folder on this fresh build and contents and
copied (using winscp) the asterisk folder and contents that I had backup off
my working but powered off main node.


When I finally ifconfig and made sure the private IP was identical to my
main All star node that I had firstly copied the complete Asterisk contents
over was already turned off( No IP conflicts)

I then telinit 6 and thus a reboot

On power up the IP was the same. 
I copied the IRLP backup into temp 
Then tried irlpsetup.sh   ( Was unable to run) All worked ok 3 weeks ago
when I ran the identical command.

I was then unable to connect to no links be it Echolink or All Star. ( I was
unable to resolve Echolink by a ping Europe.echolink.org. path unknown)

Any ideas 

I have made sure the Asterisk contents match size for size of my working
node and is in the correct place. I have made sure the A was not in the iax
configuration

I have put this backup Pc under the bench as work in progress and turned my
main All Star back on. After 10 minutes all now is fine and working has
anyone any idea on what I missed please?

Many thanks

Keith Handscombe G7DNT

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Hi Keith,

I don't claim any sort of "guru" status but it looks to me like you've
unwittingly answered your own question!

If you can't ping a host by name, the first thing to check is whether you
can ping it by its IP address. If you can, then it's a problem with name
resolution.

   [root at IOMHub ~]# ping europe.echolink.org
   PING server2.echolink.org (216.69.181.113) 56(84) bytes of data.
   64 bytes from ip-216-69-181-113.ip.secureserver.net (216.69.181.113):
icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=148 ms

Since Allstar uses FQDN (Fully-qualified domain names) to address hosts, if
name resolution is broke - so is AllStar!

Check in /etc/resolv.conf and see if it has an entry for your ADSL router's
address. Mine looks like this:

  [root at IOMHub etc]# cat resolv.conf
  ; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script
  nameserver 192.168.0.1

You can check the network settings by entering "system-config-network-tui".
This loads a text-based interface for setting-up the network.

If your router isn't dishing-up DNS - and I have had tremendous trouble with
a D-Link router that did just that - you could always use a public DNS
instead (like 8.8.8.8).

Not sure if any of this helps, but perhaps it will.

Good Luck.

David Osborn GD4HOZ
(2480 - 2484)
 



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:46:46 -0700
From: "KI6PSP (Ed)" <ki6psp at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] What am I doing Wrong-Playback Command
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Message-ID:
	<AANLkTi=4Wv4phjvRRb75BoBnVL2+e3kxhPKQwDxqHV2A at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>
> I am trying to add a playback fuction so I can add in a tail message
> telling everyone to press *50 for information, then use that to playback
> basic repeater command instructions. I have tested this several ways, and
I
> can't seem to get it. Plus, during my testing, I think I set *50 to a *81#
> so it will tell me the time. It is no longer in the config, but it still
> does it, so I cant use *50. Here is a clip from my rpt.conf file.
>
> [functions27178]
> 1=ilink,1
> 2=ilink,2
> 3=ilink,3
> 4=ilink,4
> ;50=playback 27178,rpt/nodenames/wa6ybn   ;Testing, this didn't work
> 5=macro,1
> 70=ilink,5
> 71=ilink,6
> 72=ilink,7
> 73=ilink,15
> 74=ilink,16
> 75=ilink,8
> 80=status,1
> 81=status,2
> 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000  ; Autopatch up
> 0=autopatchdn                           ; Autopatch down
> 96=playback 27178,rpt/nodenames/wa6ybn   ;Repeater just Donks at me
> ;989=cop,4
> 980=status,3
> 99=cop,6
> ; Place command macros here
> [macro27178]
> 1=playback,rpt/nodenames/wa6ybn     ;Repeater just Donks at me
> 2=*81#                                              ;This one works
> ;Any others, it tell me Macro Not Found, so it must be finding the *51,
but
> not playing the file. File is the same one for initial ID, and it works
>
> --
> KI6PSP (Ed)
>

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ken <ke2n at cs.com> wrote:

>
> see   http://app-rpt.qrvc.com/node/143
>
>  you can't have
> [functions27178]
> 50=(something)
> 5=macro
> it will stop as soon as it sees the 5 in your DTMF sequence and look for a
> macro to match the next digit
>
> Ken
>


Understood, that is why I had commented out the 5= line for testing, when
the 50=playback didn't work, I swapped the comment to the other line, and
tried it the other way.

I understand the * for the start of the command and close with the #. When I
test the *52, it does say the time. That is not what I am getting at.

I want to occasionally say, "*50 for information", then when somebody pushes
*50, it will play another recording that will have the basic instructions
for repeater usage. I can't get the playback command to work. I also tried
using the playback command in the [functions27178] stanza vise the
[macro27178] stanza, so I must be using the command wrong.

Can anyone assist me with this?

KI6PSP
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 01:16:00 +0000
From: kb8ude at gmail.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] A few minor details
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
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Noticed while at the portal, when going to Server|-= Setup Wizard =- the
initial page that loads with the picture of the server and two nodes has a
misspelling on the button to select an already created 'sever.'

Also, I see no way to delete a server should you accidentally on purpose
create an unwanted server.

The node/server configuration pages have an odd navigation to them, greying
out options unexpectedly when you submit your changes and then move to the
next 'tab' if you will. (APRS/GPS Settings for instance)

On the subject of APRS/GPS Settings, I see no explanation anywhere how to
configure this option.  Is a GPS mandatory or will it use the already
configured server location coordinates?

That's enough criticism for the moment. You guys are doing great and I hope
Jim gets better soon so he can get back to what he obviously must be
passionate about.

Cheers,

Shawn
27248

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 06:43:14 -0700
From: "KI6PSP (Ed)" <ki6psp at gmail.com>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Playback works, now for MP3Player
To: App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Ok, I can play wav wiles at will, but what needs to happen to play an MP3. I
managed to install mpg123-0.68, but the repeater just Donks at me when I
attempt to play the mp3 with a macro. Here is my code snippet:

96=playback,rpt/nodenames/wa6ybn
97=MP3Player,/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/test.mp3
;989=cop,4
980=status,3
99=cop,6
; Place command macros here
[macro27178]
1=*96#
2=*97#

-- 
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:07:32 -0400
From: Greg Thornwall <thorn at myactv.net>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] web transceiver
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Message-ID: <4C7D0CA4.5040007 at myactv.net>
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I can't seem to get the web transceiver to work on Ubuntu using Firefox. 
It will connect but no key up or audio comes through.

It does fine on XP.

Greg



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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  1 20:59:52 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:59:52 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Well im back, sort of
Message-ID: <BAY119-W27F881D9531B4761B24872B18B0@phx.gbl>


Im back from the hospital once again.

Still qute weak and kinda out of it, but I can sit in front of a computer and so some stuff.

So, in the interest of trying to move on here, I would much appreciate it if everyone that
has a currently active problem/issue/something-broken, etc, wound individually send me an
email (off list) with details, so that I dont have to go thru hundreds of emails to try to figure out
who needs what and what has been resolved, and what hasnt, etc.

With this information, I can do what needs to be done and help who needs to be helped
at a pace and level that I am currently capable of and will not impede my process of
improving my health.

It will be most helpful if you can leave better contact info then just normal email. A phone
number would be marvelous. If you have a problem where you need some sort of configuration
assistance or are experiencing connectivity issues or something like that, you might leave
info so that I can log into your system and take a look and maybe even fix it or something.

Also, at the moment, I will not have the strength to deal with Echolink or IRLP issues. These
quite often take a serious level of research, testing, simulating, and just scratching my head.
This is just going to have to wait until everything else is taken care of and I am feeling much 
better. Sorry.

JIM WB6NIL




 		 	   		  
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From kb8wlw at me.com  Wed Sep  1 22:28:40 2010
From: kb8wlw at me.com (MICHAEL SMITH)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:28:40 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Well im back, sort of
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W27F881D9531B4761B24872B18B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY119-W27F881D9531B4761B24872B18B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D473BCE0-041F-4B01-AABC-F6EC2ABA5C02@me.com>

I am sure everyone would agree your health is top priority. Glad to hear your home and on the road to recovery. 

Sent from my iPhone

Mike / KB8WLW

On Sep 1, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Im back from the hospital once again.
> 
> Still qute weak and kinda out of it, but I can sit in front of a computer and so some stuff.
> 
> So, in the interest of trying to move on here, I would much appreciate it if everyone that
> has a currently active problem/issue/something-broken, etc, wound individually send me an
> email (off list) with details, so that I dont have to go thru hundreds of emails to try to figure out
> who needs what and what has been resolved, and what hasnt, etc.
> 
> With this information, I can do what needs to be done and help who needs to be helped
> at a pace and level that I am currently capable of and will not impede my process of
> improving my health.
> 
> It will be most helpful if you can leave better contact info then just normal email. A phone
> number would be marvelous. If you have a problem where you need some sort of configuration
> assistance or are experiencing connectivity issues or something like that, you might leave
> info so that I can log into your system and take a look and maybe even fix it or something.
> 
> Also, at the moment, I will not have the strength to deal with Echolink or IRLP issues. These
> quite often take a serious level of research, testing, simulating, and just scratching my head.
> This is just going to have to wait until everything else is taken care of and I am feeling much 
> better. Sorry.
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users


From vk3jed at vkradio.com  Wed Sep  1 22:58:11 2010
From: vk3jed at vkradio.com (Tony Langdon, VK3JED)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:58:11 +1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Well im back, sort of
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W27F881D9531B4761B24872B18B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY119-W27F881D9531B4761B24872B18B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4c7eda94.487e0e0a.2761.7d38@mx.google.com>

At 06:59 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote:
>Im back from the hospital once again.
>
>Still qute weak and kinda out of it, but I can sit in front of a 
>computer and so some stuff.

Welcome back Jim.  Don't overdo it. I'm sure the AllStar community 
can fill in many of the gaps you're not able to, in the ham tradition.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



From telesistant at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  2 01:10:28 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 18:10:28 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?
In-Reply-To: <4C7D7EE0.7050400@netzen.it>
References: <4C7D7EE0.7050400@netzen.it>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>


Those are the supported radio for a 'remote base'. Is that what you are
trying to accomplish??

JIM

Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 00:14:56 +0200
From: info at netzen.it
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?










Hi all,



I have seen on the app-rpt site a list of radio unit supported:



Dumb (Any radio, with no remote tuning capability)


   Kenwood TMG-707A
  
   Kenwoood TM-271
  
   Yaesu FT-897D
  
   Icom IC-706
  



Is that actually correct? What do you suggest for testing the
functionality?



Best regards,

Andrea Fino



-- 
Andrea Fino 8-) - "Sistemi su misura di qualita' industriale"
      "Handcrafted systems with industrial quality"
[Phone: +39 071 2070104]+[Fax: +39 071 2077919]
[Web: http://www.netzen.it ]




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From vk3jed at vkradio.com  Thu Sep  2 01:41:29 2010
From: vk3jed at vkradio.com (Tony Langdon, VK3JED)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:41:29 +1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>
References: <4C7D7EE0.7050400@netzen.it>
	<BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4c7f00d9.827cdc0a.1367.36b8@mx.google.com>

At 11:10 AM 9/2/2010, Jim Duuuude wrote:
>Those are the supported radio for a 'remote base'. Is that what you are
>trying to accomplish??

Does anyone know where the circuit for the G707A remote base 
interface is?  Last time I looked, I couldn't find it.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



From sales at qrvc.com  Thu Sep  2 02:23:43 2010
From: sales at qrvc.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:23:43 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?
In-Reply-To: <4c7f00d9.827cdc0a.1367.36b8@mx.google.com>
References: <4C7D7EE0.7050400@netzen.it>	<BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>
	<4c7f00d9.827cdc0a.1367.36b8@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4C7F0AAF.1070506@qrvc.com>

Tony Langdon, VK3JED wrote:
> At 11:10 AM 9/2/2010, Jim Duuuude wrote:
>> Those are the supported radio for a 'remote base'. Is that what you are
>> trying to accomplish??
> 
> Does anyone know where the circuit for the G707A remote base 
> interface is?  Last time I looked, I couldn't find it.
> 
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
Search for tmg707 on app-rpt.qrvc.com

Steve
WA6ZFT



From vk3jed at vkradio.com  Thu Sep  2 05:10:49 2010
From: vk3jed at vkradio.com (Tony Langdon, VK3JED)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:10:49 +1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?
In-Reply-To: <4C7F0AAF.1070506@qrvc.com>
References: <4C7D7EE0.7050400@netzen.it>
	<BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>
	<4c7f00d9.827cdc0a.1367.36b8@mx.google.com>
	<4C7F0AAF.1070506@qrvc.com>
Message-ID: <4c7f31e5.9882e50a.112e.0247@mx.google.com>

At 12:23 PM 9/2/2010, Stephen Rodgers wrote:

>Search for tmg707 on app-rpt.qrvc.com

Thanks Steve, that did the trick.


73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



From info at netzen.it  Thu Sep  2 10:19:15 2010
From: info at netzen.it (Netzen)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:19:15 +0200
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>
References: <4C7D7EE0.7050400@netzen.it>
	<BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C7F7A23.3050607@netzen.it>

On 09/02/2010 03:10 AM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
> Those are the supported radio for a 'remote base'. Is that what you are
> trying to accomplish??


Hi,

I am trying to move as a novice my first steps in this world. If I 
understood correctly you can setup a "remote base" or a "repeater", with 
app_rpt.

Is that right?

I can imagine the repeater functionality, but not so much about the 
remote base.

There is any place I can understand better such concepts?

Best regards,
Andrea Fino


-- 
Andrea Fino 8-) - "Sistemi su misura di qualita' industriale"
       "Handcrafted systems with industrial quality"
[Phone: +39 071 2070104]+[Fax: +39 071 2077919]
[Web: http://www.netzen.it ]

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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  2 15:34:25 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 08:34:25 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?
In-Reply-To: <4C7F7A23.3050607@netzen.it>
References: <4C7D7EE0.7050400@netzen.it>,
	<BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>,
	<4C7F7A23.3050607@netzen.it>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W44A9F9FB796FDBAA15D72B18C0@phx.gbl>


yeah. what you want is a 'repeater' node. Therefore any decent amateur radio that has access to
decent audio and control inputs/outputs will do nicely.

JIM


Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:19:15 +0200
From: info at netzen.it
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?






  
  Message body


On 09/02/2010 03:10 AM, Jim Duuuude wrote:

  Those
are the supported radio for a 'remote base'. Is that what you are

trying to accomplish??






Hi,



I am trying to move as a novice my first steps in this world. If I
understood correctly you can setup a "remote base" or a "repeater",
with app_rpt.



Is that right? 



I can imagine the repeater functionality, but not so much about the
remote base.



There is any place I can understand better such concepts?



Best regards,

Andrea Fino





-- 
Andrea Fino 8-) - "Sistemi su misura di qualita' industriale"
      "Handcrafted systems with industrial quality"
[Phone: +39 071 2070104]+[Fax: +39 071 2077919]
[Web: http://www.netzen.it ]




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From ke2n at cs.com  Thu Sep  2 18:33:07 2010
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:33:07 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Europe what radio unit to use?
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W44A9F9FB796FDBAA15D72B18C0@phx.gbl>
References: <4C7D7EE0.7050400@netzen.it>,
	<BAY119-W86582630A22B6F132D699B18C0@phx.gbl>,
	<4C7F7A23.3050607@netzen.it>
	<BAY119-W44A9F9FB796FDBAA15D72B18C0@phx.gbl>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_base_station



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From keith at handscombe.co.uk  Fri Sep  3 20:31:11 2010
From: keith at handscombe.co.uk (keith handscombe)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:31:11 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] IRLP
Message-ID: <001701cb4ba6$f29e5c30$d7db1490$@co.uk>

 

 

Good evening all,

 

I can see adding Echolink then allows control over the type of connection
you want to have connect by adding the deny or permit comment. Does IRLP
when added give the same control please?

 

 

Many thanks

 

K Handscombe

 

G7DNT

 

www.handscombe.co.uk

 

 

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From wb5nfc at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  6 13:30:32 2010
From: wb5nfc at yahoo.com (John (WB5NFC))
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:30:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID/Echolink  On HSMM-MESH Network
Message-ID: <932426.35590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I am attempting to configure a node to operate as part of an experimental 
HSMM-MESH network. I am using the latest ACID distro. Ports 5198-5199, 5200 and 
4569 are forwarded across the mesh. Chan_echolink downloads echolink nodes 
properly from the Echolink server and my node appears on the Echolink list of 
active nodes. When I attempt to connect (from an outside network) I receive 
"Connection Failed. Cannot connect to WB5NFC-R. UN-AUTHORIZED." From the 
Asterisk CLI the error appears as: ERROR[2356]: chan_echolink 2185 do_new_call: 
Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/10.245.130.XX (the Wi-Fi IP of the first 
router in my HSMM-MESH. I suspect I need to edit a config file someplace to 
account for the mesh operation, but I'm not sure where/what. Suggestions 
appreciated.

John / WB5NFC



      


From sales at qrvc.com  Mon Sep  6 15:36:12 2010
From: sales at qrvc.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:36:12 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID/Echolink  On HSMM-MESH Network
In-Reply-To: <932426.35590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <932426.35590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C850A6C.8080500@qrvc.com>

John (WB5NFC) wrote:
> I am attempting to configure a node to operate as part of an experimental 
> HSMM-MESH network. I am using the latest ACID distro. Ports 5198-5199, 5200 and 
> 4569 are forwarded across the mesh. Chan_echolink downloads echolink nodes 
> properly from the Echolink server and my node appears on the Echolink list of 
> active nodes. When I attempt to connect (from an outside network) I receive 
> "Connection Failed. Cannot connect to WB5NFC-R. UN-AUTHORIZED." From the 
> Asterisk CLI the error appears as: ERROR[2356]: chan_echolink 2185 do_new_call: 
> Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/10.245.130.XX (the Wi-Fi IP of the first 
> router in my HSMM-MESH. I suspect I need to edit a config file someplace to 
> account for the mesh operation, but I'm not sure where/what. Suggestions 
> appreciated.
> 
> John / WB5NFC
> 
> 
> 
>       
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 

It may be downloading the list, but the entry is not in there.

You may need to wait a bit and try again.

To see if the IP shows uo, Redirect 'asterisk -rx database show' to a file and search for your ip address.

Steve
WA6ZFT




From telesistant at hotmail.com  Mon Sep  6 15:47:59 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:47:59 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID/Echolink  On HSMM-MESH Network
In-Reply-To: <932426.35590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <932426.35590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W527FAC87194B33CEC82C25B1700@phx.gbl>



Your network is obscuring the real IP address of the incoming packets. Normally, even in
a NAT-ed environment, incoming IP packets bear the real, true address of their origination
and thats what  we validate on. In a network like that, that changes the IP address of the
incoming packets, this stuff just isnt going to work, since it needs the REAL IP address to
validate on.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:30:32 -0700
> From: wb5nfc at yahoo.com
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID/Echolink  On HSMM-MESH Network
> 
> I am attempting to configure a node to operate as part of an experimental 
> HSMM-MESH network. I am using the latest ACID distro. Ports 5198-5199, 5200 and 
> 4569 are forwarded across the mesh. Chan_echolink downloads echolink nodes 
> properly from the Echolink server and my node appears on the Echolink list of 
> active nodes. When I attempt to connect (from an outside network) I receive 
> "Connection Failed. Cannot connect to WB5NFC-R. UN-AUTHORIZED." From the 
> Asterisk CLI the error appears as: ERROR[2356]: chan_echolink 2185 do_new_call: 
> Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/10.245.130.XX (the Wi-Fi IP of the first 
> router in my HSMM-MESH. I suspect I need to edit a config file someplace to 
> account for the mesh operation, but I'm not sure where/what. Suggestions 
> appreciated.
> 
> John / WB5NFC
> 
> 
> 
>       
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Tue Sep  7 19:49:15 2010
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV))
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:49:15 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] O/T:  FYI - FREE STAR* Project
Message-ID: <4C86973B.7070008@va3uv.com>

Hi All;

An off-topic post, which seems to be gaining interest amongst the 
Allstar community...

I started working on a project called 'FREE STAR*" about a year or so 
ago.  FREE STAR* was an attempt to build a vendor neutral digital 
communication network and allow bridging between various VoIP protocols 
that are in use amongst radio amateurs today (app_rpt, IRLP, D-STAR, etc.).

I'll keep this brief - further info can be found on my website:


http://www.va3uv.com/freestar.htm

We have built a few systems on top of our Allstar / ACID boxes, they 
seem to work well.

Anyone interested in exploring this further or wishing to add the FREE 
STAR* s/w to their existing systems can contact me off-list for details.

Thanks for the plug!

Cheers,

Ramesh, VA3UV

Allstar Node 2200 > Bridged to XRF005A.


From david.osborn at manx.net  Wed Sep  8 06:08:20 2010
From: david.osborn at manx.net (David Osborn)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:08:20 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node Blacklisting
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1283788802.2218.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
References: <mailman.1.1283788802.2218.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
Message-ID: <001d01cb4f1c$3d7fb7d0$b87f2770$@osborn@manx.net>

Hi All.

Is it possible to blacklist an external node - in this case an EchoLink one?

I (and a couple of other sysops) am having trouble with a particular node
and need to prevent connections from it until his problem is resolved.

Thanks

Dave
GD4HOZ




From specialq.que at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep  8 09:51:58 2010
From: specialq.que at ntlworld.com (Doug Hutchison)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:51:58 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node Blacklisting
In-Reply-To: <001d01cb4f1c$3d7fb7d0$b87f2770$@osborn@manx.net>
References: <mailman.1.1283788802.2218.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
	<001d01cb4f1c$3d7fb7d0$b87f2770$@osborn@manx.net>
Message-ID: <4C875CBE.6030609@ntlworld.com>

Hi Dave,

Answer is here :- http://app-rpt.qrvc.com/node/56

add to echolink.conf

    * To deny w6xxx you would add the statement: deny=w6xxx
    * To prohibit computer-based connections you would write: permit=*-*
    * To allow access to only a select group of callsigns:
      permit=w6abc,w6def,...

Doug

On 08/09/2010 7:08 AM, David Osborn wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> Is it possible to blacklist an external node - in this case an EchoLink one?
>
> I (and a couple of other sysops) am having trouble with a particular node
> and need to prevent connections from it until his problem is resolved.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
> GD4HOZ
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mitch at aussietalk.net  Wed Sep  8 13:03:31 2010
From: mitch at aussietalk.net (Mitch Clifford)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:03:31 +0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Help!!!! cant get iaxRpt to connect -firewall
	problems?
Message-ID: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>

G'day all
well, he is a newbies question
i have installed the current version of xelatec's XIPPR on a machine i have spare here and all looks to have gone fine.... webmin works,ect,ect...
but 
i have installed iaxRPT on this machine i'm using now and i just cant get the damn thing to connect
i have opened the correct ports on my router and windoze machine, spent 3 days trolling around for any info but with no luck but the only thing left i can think of is that the ports on the linix machine are closed...
i have looked at the iptables file but that looks un populated so is XIPPR using some other form of firewall?
sorry for my first post to be a "HELP" message but this looks to be a real fun toy to play with but its fustrating me to hell
thanks for reading and cheers
73's
Mitch
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Wed Sep  8 13:08:23 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>
Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>

I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108
chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none of
them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.



I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors our
asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that we can
use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive quad
card?



Corey  N3FE


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From mcheavens at usa.net  Wed Sep  8 14:07:04 2010
From: mcheavens at usa.net (Mark Cheavens)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:07:04 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater .net>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20100908090622.05cc4d48@usa.net>

Use a URI adapter from DMK.
No modifications needed.

http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/USB-FOB.pdf

Mark Cheavens
KC5EVE
At 08:08 AM 9/8/2010, Corey Dean   N3FE wrote:
>Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>         boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB4F56.DBBFA3E4"
>
>I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a 
>cm108 chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers 
>and none of them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>
>I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors 
>our asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that 
>we can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the 
>expensive quad card?
>
>Corey  N3FE
>
>
>-- This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
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From sales at qrvc.com  Wed Sep  8 14:18:50 2010
From: sales at qrvc.com (Stephen Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:18:50 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Help!!!! cant get iaxRpt to connect -firewall
 problems?
In-Reply-To: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>
Message-ID: <4C879B4A.20600@qrvc.com>

Mitch Clifford wrote:
> G'day all
> well, he is a newbies question
> i have installed the current version of xelatec's XIPPR on a machine i have spare here and all looks to have gone fine.... webmin works,ect,ect...
> but 
> i have installed iaxRPT on this machine i'm using now and i just cant get the damn thing to connect
> i have opened the correct ports on my router and windoze machine, spent 3 days trolling around for any info but with no luck but the only thing left i can think of is that the ports on the linix machine are closed...
> i have looked at the iptables file but that looks un populated so is XIPPR using some other form of firewall?
> sorry for my first post to be a "HELP" message but this looks to be a real fun toy to play with but its fustrating me to hell
> thanks for reading and cheers
> 73's
> Mitch
> vk6fmll
>  
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

Did you try asking Steve Henke for help? He maintains the Iaxrpt program and XIPAR. This list is mainly for ACID and
Limey Linux users, but we can also answer some general questions about app_rpt/Asterisk.

Steve
WA6ZFT



From w0otm at w0otm.com  Wed Sep  8 13:54:46 2010
From: w0otm at w0otm.com (Marshall Dias)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:54:46 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
Message-ID: <665914a9$52df83e0$251f099$@com>

I agree the URI is no doubt the best route to go!  

There is NO advantage to a CM108. Don't think for a min that being cheap is acceptable in this situation.

On that note, I do have 4 genuine CM108 fobs, NIB that I will sell for $25 each + $5 shipping.

 






 
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iHAB - Iowa
High Altitude Balloon Project
614 North Court - Ottumwa, Iowa 52501
http://www.w0otm.com/iHAB - (641)
777-7046


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From: "Mark Cheavens" <mcheavens at usa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:43 AM
To: "Corey Dean   N3FE" <n3fe at repeater.net>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question 

Use a URI adapter from DMK.

No modifications needed.



http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/USB-FOB.pdf


Mark Cheavens

KC5EVE

At 08:08 AM 9/8/2010, Corey Dean   N3FE wrote:

Content-class:
urn:content-classes:message

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

        
boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB4F56.DBBFA3E4"


I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108
chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
none of them have the right chip even though they were listed as a
cm108.

 

I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors our
asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that we
can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
quad card?

 

Corey  N3FE


 


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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  8 14:57:01 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:57:01 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W32EC5FF64C314E177392DDB1720@phx.gbl>


JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound cards.
THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio systems.

JIM WB6NIL

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
From: n3fe at repeater.net
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
















I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
cm108 chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none of
them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.

 

I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
errors our asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that we
can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive quad
card?

 

Corey  N3FE



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This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.




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From specialq.que at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep  8 15:31:25 2010
From: specialq.que at ntlworld.com (Doug Hutchison)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:31:25 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <665914a9$52df83e0$251f099$@com>
References: <665914a9$52df83e0$251f099$@com>
Message-ID: <4C87AC4D.5060607@ntlworld.com>

Yes URI will do the job but if you want a fob which is CM108 :-

http://www2.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812

$6.99 ea free shipping too.

Doug


On 08/09/2010 2:54 PM, Marshall Dias wrote:
> I agree the URI is no doubt the best route to go!
>
> There is NO advantage to a CM108. Don't think for a min that being 
> cheap is acceptable in this situation.
>
> On that note, I do have 4 genuine CM108 fobs, NIB that I will sell for 
> $25 each + $5 shipping.
>
>
>
> *iHAB** - Iowa High Altitude Balloon Project*
>
> *614 North Court** - Ottumwa, Iowa 52501*
>
> *http://www.w0otm.com/iHAB - (641) 777-7046*
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From*: "Mark Cheavens" <mcheavens at usa.net>
> *Sent*: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:43 AM
> *To*: "Corey Dean N3FE" <n3fe at repeater.net>
> *Subject*: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>
> Use a URI adapter from DMK.
> No modifications needed.
>
> http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/USB-FOB.pdf
>
> Mark Cheavens
> KC5EVE
> At 08:08 AM 9/8/2010, Corey Dean   N3FE wrote:
>> Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB4F56.DBBFA3E4"
>>
>> I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108 
>> chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none 
>> of them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>>
>> I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors 
>> our asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that 
>> we can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the 
>> expensive quad card?
>>
>> Corey  N3FE
>>
>>
>> -- This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
>
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From jdazbill at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  8 16:04:28 2010
From: jdazbill at hotmail.com (John David Azbill)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:04:28 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI problem
Message-ID: <COL104-W210D6387624DFDC4A4D769D1720@phx.gbl>


   I'm trying to see if anyone has ran into a problem with their URI not flashing,  I?m wondering is there a test script or a way to test the URI?
 
  Also, Is there some way to go into WinSCP and turn on the lights or troubleshoot the URI?
 
   David AF8D
  		 	   		  
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From specialq.que at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep  8 16:15:50 2010
From: specialq.que at ntlworld.com (Doug Hutchison)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:15:50 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI problem
In-Reply-To: <COL104-W210D6387624DFDC4A4D769D1720@phx.gbl>
References: <COL104-W210D6387624DFDC4A4D769D1720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C87B6B6.7000906@ntlworld.com>

Hi David,

When you say the URI is flashing, if that happens when your system 
boots, the led is green and flashing at a uniform rate...normal. The URI 
is working, the same effect appears on a properly modified sound fob.

Doug




On 08/09/2010 5:04 PM, John David Azbill wrote:
> I'm trying to see if anyone has ran into a problem with their URI not 
> flashing,  I?m wondering is there a test script or a way to test the URI?
>
>   Also, Is there some way to go into WinSCP and turn on the lights or 
> troubleshoot the URI?
>
> David AF8D
>
>
>
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From w4rfj at comcast.net  Wed Sep  8 16:23:59 2010
From: w4rfj at comcast.net (Roger F. Jordan Sr.)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:23:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <4C87AC4D.5060607@ntlworld.com>
References: <665914a9$52df83e0$251f099$@com> <4C87AC4D.5060607@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <000c01cb4f72$4ee99cb0$ecbcd610$@net>

Actually Doug,  The chip in this FOB is a CM-109.  But it works just as
well!  The plus is that this FOB has the EEPROM installed!  I am not sure if
there is any more experimenting going on with the EEPROM. 

 

 I personally do not think the URI is the best way to go.  It works because
it has the same chip "CM-108".  I have successfully modified many a FOB with
great success!  It is just a matter of how you decide to modify them.  My
method is a little more involved, but very reliable. The only issue is
Soldering to pin 13 (which I made easier by using 30 Gauge wire). I do not
even use the Diode (I use PL as generated/decoded by the CM108/9) even
though you could include it!.  I mount all components on an external PCB. I
even mount the FOB to the PCB with some solid wire thru the existing holes
left when the sockets are removed.  So I do not consider the FOB mod as
being cheap!  I personally believe that if you have the "know how" you can
do the modification and save the green backs for that awesome HF rig you
want to add to your shack!

 

I am working on a device that will house several FOBs and use 1 USB cable.
Issue is the USB Hub.  I will get it in time! That is what HAM Radio is all
about. do and learn!

 

Have Fun everyone!

 

Roger W4RFJ

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Doug Hutchison
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:31 AM
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

 

Yes URI will do the job but if you want a fob which is CM108 :-

http://www2.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812

$6.99 ea free shipping too.

Doug


On 08/09/2010 2:54 PM, Marshall Dias wrote: 

I agree the URI is no doubt the best route to go!  

There is NO advantage to a CM108. Don't think for a min that being cheap is
acceptable in this situation.

On that note, I do have 4 genuine CM108 fobs, NIB that I will sell for $25
each + $5 shipping.

 




 

iHAB - Iowa High Altitude Balloon Project

614 North Court - Ottumwa, Iowa 52501

http://www.w0otm.com/iHAB - (641) 777-7046

 

  _____  

From: "Mark Cheavens"  <mailto:mcheavens at usa.net> <mcheavens at usa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:43 AM
To: "Corey Dean N3FE"  <mailto:n3fe at repeater.net> <n3fe at repeater.net>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

Use a URI adapter from DMK.
No modifications needed.

http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/USB-FOB.pdf

Mark Cheavens
KC5EVE
At 08:08 AM 9/8/2010, Corey Dean   N3FE wrote:



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I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108 chip
in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none of them
have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
 
I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors our
asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that we can use
serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive quad card?
 
Corey  N3FE

 

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From ke2n at cs.com  Wed Sep  8 17:07:13 2010
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:07:13 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI problem
In-Reply-To: <COL104-W210D6387624DFDC4A4D769D1720@phx.gbl>
References: <COL104-W210D6387624DFDC4A4D769D1720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CD1D8F6ACBA1FE-D28-21E0@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com>


David
just stick it onto a Windoz PC and run your favorite sound app there.
but in Linux,
the command 'lsusb' should show you if the device is being recognized (USB 2.0 port required)
and
in the CLI, you can use 'txkey'  and the various 'radio active ..." commands to put it through it's paces

GL 
Ken

type 'help radio'




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Sent: Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:04 pm
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI problem


   I'm trying to see if anyone has ran into a problem with their URI not flashing,  I wondering is there a test script or a way to test the URI?

 
  Also, Is there some way to go into WinSCP and turn on the lights or troubleshoot the URI?
 
   David AF8D
 
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Wed Sep  8 19:39:25 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:39:25 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
References: <665914a9$52df83e0$251f099$@com> <4C87AC4D.5060607@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C5@exchange2003.repeater.net>

I ordered two from here at two different times in the last month and
they both show as  JMTek, LLC.  They aren't cm108's.



Corey  N3FE



From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Doug Hutchison
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:31 AM
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question



Yes URI will do the job but if you want a fob which is CM108 :-

http://www2.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812

$6.99 ea free shipping too.

Doug


On 08/09/2010 2:54 PM, Marshall Dias wrote:

I agree the URI is no doubt the best route to go!

There is NO advantage to a CM108. Don't think for a min that being cheap
is acceptable in this situation.

On that note, I do have 4 genuine CM108 fobs, NIB that I will sell for
$25 each + $5 shipping.








iHAB - Iowa High Altitude Balloon Project

614 North Court - Ottumwa, Iowa 52501

http://www.w0otm.com/iHAB - (641) 777-7046



________________________________

From: "Mark Cheavens" <mcheavens at usa.net> <mailto:mcheavens at usa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:43 AM
To: "Corey Dean N3FE" <n3fe at repeater.net> <mailto:n3fe at repeater.net>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

Use a URI adapter from DMK.
No modifications needed.

http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/USB-FOB.pdf

Mark Cheavens
KC5EVE
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I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108
chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none of
them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.

I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors our
asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that we can
use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive quad
card?

Corey  N3FE



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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Wed Sep  8 19:45:11 2010
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV))
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:45:11 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C5@exchange2003.repeater.net>
References: <665914a9$52df83e0$251f099$@com> <4C87AC4D.5060607@ntlworld.com>
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C5@exchange2003.repeater.net>
Message-ID: <4C87E7C7.7000405@va3uv.com>

On 08/09/2010 3:39 PM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote:
> I ordered two from here at two different times in the last month and
> they both show as JMTek, LLC. They aren?t cm108?s.
>
<-- Correct... The link to the dealextreme site was posted on my FREE 
STAR* page as we certified these fobs for use with the PC based GMSK 
repeater software on our FREE STAR* systems.  That does not mean that 
they are certified to work with app_rpt.  In fact, one of our team 
members did try a dealextreme fob on an app_rpt system and the s/w did 
not recognize the fob.

That said, do not order one of these fobs for your Allstar / app_rpt 
systems hoping that it is a CM108... you will be severely disappointed.


Cheers!

Ramesh.




From mike at microdel.org  Wed Sep  8 20:54:34 2010
From: mike at microdel.org (Mike Roedel - KB7XP)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:54:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <000c01cb4f72$4ee99cb0$ecbcd610$@net>
References: <665914a9$52df83e0$251f099$@com> <4C87AC4D.5060607@ntlworld.com>
	<000c01cb4f72$4ee99cb0$ecbcd610$@net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1009081337050.17914@lbqn.zvpebqry.yna>

Roger -

I wonder if you may be able to suggest a source for FOB's.  I've purchased 
one DMK URI which is working perfectly.  It's an excellent, well designed 
and constructed device (I just had to pop it open to have a look).  I need 
two more but am reluctant to spend another $140.

I did try my luck on eBay at the suggestion of an earlier email on the 
list: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-3D-AUDIO-SOUND-CARD-ADAPTER-VIRTUAL-7-1-ch-/250537558990

After ~18 days I received my order, plugged it in to the linux box and 
'lsusb' revealed that the devices had JMTek, LLC chips.  I was just 
getting ready to place an order from "dealextreme" until I saw the reply 
from Ramesh VA3UV.

I'm all for experimenting and DIY but I'm also hoping to avoid the 
"CM-108/9 lottery".

-- Thanks, Mike

On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, Roger F. Jordan Sr. wrote:

> 
> Actually Doug,? The chip in this FOB is a CM-109?? But it works just as
> well!? The plus is that this FOB has the EEPROM installed!? I am not sure if
> there is any more experimenting going on with the EEPROM?
> 
> ?
> 
> ?I personally do not think the URI is the best way to go?? It works because
> it has the same chip ?CM-108?.? I have successfully modified many a FOB with
> great success!? It is just a matter of how you decide to modify them?? My
> method is a little more involved, but very reliable? The only issue is
> Soldering to pin 13 (which I made easier by using 30 Gauge wire). I do not
> even use the Diode (I use PL as generated/decoded by the CM108/9) even
> though you could include it!.? I mount all components on an external PCB. I
> even mount the FOB to the PCB with some solid wire thru the existing holes
> left when the sockets are removed.? So I do not consider the FOB mod as
> being cheap!? I personally believe that if you have the ?know how? you can
> do the modification and save the green backs for that awesome HF rig you
> want to add to your shack!
> 
> ?
> 
> I am working on a device that will house several FOBs and use 1 USB cable??
> Issue is the USB Hub?? I will get it in time! That is what HAM Radio is all
> about? do and learn!
> 
> ?
> 
> Have Fun everyone!
> 
> ?
> 
> Roger W4RFJ
> 
> ?
> 
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
> On Behalf Of Doug Hutchison
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:31 AM
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> 
> ?
> 
> Yes URI will do the job but if you want a fob which is CM108 :-
> 
> http://www2.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812
> 
> $6.99 ea free shipping too.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> On 08/09/2010 2:54 PM, Marshall Dias wrote:
> 
> I agree the URI is no doubt the best route to go!?
> 
> There is NO advantage to a CM108. Don't think for a min that being cheap is
> acceptable in this situation.
> 
> On that note, I do have 4 genuine CM108 fobs, NIB that I will sell for $25
> each + $5 shipping.
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> ?
> 
> iHAB - Iowa High Altitude Balloon Project
> 
> 614 North Court - Ottumwa, Iowa 52501
> 
> http://www.w0otm.com/iHAB - (641) 777-7046
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> From: "Mark Cheavens" <mcheavens at usa.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:43 AM
> To: "Corey Dean N3FE" <n3fe at repeater.net>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> 
> Use a URI adapter from DMK.
> No modifications needed.
> 
> http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/USB-FOB.pdf
> 
> Mark Cheavens
> KC5EVE
> At 08:08 AM 9/8/2010, Corey Dean?? N3FE wrote:
> 
> Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> ???????? boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB4F56.DBBFA3E4"
> 
> I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108 chip
> in it.? I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none of them
> have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> ?
> I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors our
> asterisk with a 127 error.? Is there anything out there so that we can use
> serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive quad card?
> ?
> Corey? N3FE
> 
> ?
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ?
> 
> ?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> 
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> 
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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> ? 
> 
>

From kuggie at kuggie.com  Wed Sep  8 20:56:38 2010
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:56:38 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
Message-ID: <4C87F886.2040300@kuggie.com>

  On 9/8/2010 9:08 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote:
>
> I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108 
> chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none 
> of them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>
> I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors our 
> asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that we can 
> use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive 
> quad card?
>
> Corey  N3FE
>


I just received 4 leaded CM108 fobs from China.  10 days, and they are 
the right thing.
Google  "bestofferbuy cm108" without the quotations and click the first 
result.  $6.90 - free shipping.

These may be a better choice over the dealextreme units as they have 
routinely been the epoxied blob - not a leaded cm108 which makes PTT 
signaling more difficult.

Also, I have used both the quad card and the fob.  Don't believe the 
squabble over the superiority of the quad card.  The CM108 based 
interfaces I have built and used have excellent audio quality and 
squelch action.  I use the xelatec distro.  Tastes great - less filling.

Kevin - W3KKC

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From hammradio at charter.net  Wed Sep  8 22:15:29 2010
From: hammradio at charter.net (Bob Bunter)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:15:29 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node Blacklisting
Message-ID: <D9126F6A40C34FD6BBA0C6BA8EE27470@homeb9e2a513e5>

          Does Node Blocking whether it be "deny" "permit" work the same for Allstar as it does for Echolink? If it does would it be
placed in the asterisk.conf or the rpt.conf file?
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Wed Sep  8 22:21:57 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:21:57 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
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	<4C87F886.2040300@kuggie.com>
Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB272F@exchange2003.repeater.net>

You must have lucked out Kevin.  I bought two from here and I received the jtek fob...


---------------------------------------------------------------------
Corey N3FE




-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com on behalf of Kevin Custer
Sent: Wed 9/8/2010 4:56 PM
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

  On 9/8/2010 9:08 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote:
>
> I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108
> chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none
> of them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>
> I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors our
> asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that we can
> use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> quad card?
>
> Corey  N3FE
>


I just received 4 leaded CM108 fobs from China.  10 days, and they are
the right thing.
Google  "bestofferbuy cm108" without the quotations and click the first
result.  $6.90 - free shipping.

These may be a better choice over the dealextreme units as they have
routinely been the epoxied blob - not a leaded cm108 which makes PTT
signaling more difficult.

Also, I have used both the quad card and the fob.  Don't believe the
squabble over the superiority of the quad card.  The CM108 based
interfaces I have built and used have excellent audio quality and
squelch action.  I use the xelatec distro.  Tastes great - less filling.

Kevin - W3KKC


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From specialq.que at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep  8 22:25:17 2010
From: specialq.que at ntlworld.com (Doug Hutchison)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:25:17 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node Blacklisting
In-Reply-To: <D9126F6A40C34FD6BBA0C6BA8EE27470@homeb9e2a513e5>
References: <D9126F6A40C34FD6BBA0C6BA8EE27470@homeb9e2a513e5>
Message-ID: <4C880D4D.7030404@ntlworld.com>

http://app-rpt.qrvc.com/node/56


On 08/09/2010 11:15 PM, Bob Bunter wrote:
>           Does Node Blocking whether it be "deny" "permit" work the 
> same for Allstar as it does for Echolink? If it does would it be
> placed in the asterisk.conf or the rpt.conf file?
>
>
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From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Wed Sep  8 23:02:32 2010
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:02:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node Blacklisting
Message-ID: <282a69.1353.12af3961320.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

Node blacklisting is not supported for allstar link connections.

Steve
WA6ZFT


On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Bob Bunter wrote:

> Does Node Blocking whether it be "deny" "permit" work the same for 
> Allstar as it does for Echolink? If it does would it be
> placed in the asterisk.conf or the rpt.conf file?
>
>      ------------------------------
>
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Thu Sep  9 00:08:21 2010
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:08:21 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Linksys PAP2T-NA
Message-ID: <4C882575.30103@msgstor.com>

I have a few Linksys PAP2T-NA adapters new in box available.
These are the unlocked (never locked) version direct from Linksys.
These are 2 line SIP terminal adapters.
Specs here along with about 1 million other places.
<www.dtnettech.com/store/specifications/cisco%20pap2t-na.pdf>

$30 shipped US. PayPal or MO.

73, Steve N4IRS


From wa1sot at pcom.com  Thu Sep  9 04:17:44 2010
From: wa1sot at pcom.com (Jim Richardson)
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:17:44 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] How to determine which node is transmitting to the
	hub node
Message-ID: <op.viqzjup7b3mc4a@eeepc1000he>

Is there any way to look at some log file to determine which node is  
transmitting to a hub node?
How can I determine which of the many nodes connected to the hub nodes has  
a stuck transmitter?
How can I determine which node is broken so I can disconnect it from the  
hub node?
Is there some type of IAX2 Packet that I can look for that indicates  
transmit?
Has anyone found a solution to this issue?
Thanks,
Jim WA1SOT



From k6kya at hokeynet.net  Thu Sep  9 06:49:56 2010
From: k6kya at hokeynet.net (Steve Passmore)
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:49:56 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] How to determine which node is transmitting to
 the hub node
In-Reply-To: <op.viqzjup7b3mc4a@eeepc1000he>
References: <op.viqzjup7b3mc4a@eeepc1000he>
Message-ID: <4C888394.3060102@hokeynet.net>

  The only way we've been able to figure out how to do this is to turn 
on the audio archiving feature which then creates a log file with the 
data you're looking for.

Steve

On 9/8/2010 21:17, Jim Richardson wrote:
> Is there any way to look at some log file to determine which node is
> transmitting to a hub node?
> How can I determine which of the many nodes connected to the hub nodes has
> a stuck transmitter?
> How can I determine which node is broken so I can disconnect it from the
> hub node?
> Is there some type of IAX2 Packet that I can look for that indicates
> transmit?
> Has anyone found a solution to this issue?
> Thanks,
> Jim WA1SOT
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users


From yo3iiu at yo3iiu.ro  Thu Sep  9 07:27:22 2010
From: yo3iiu at yo3iiu.ro (Bogdan Diaconescu)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:27:22 +0300
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
Message-ID: <23ae1f6b3f208057e536983327c1b343.squirrel@www.yo3iiu.ro>

Hi Corey,

chan_alsaradio needs to be added into asterisk build by modifying the
Makefile in the channels directory. Then when building the asterisk it
should build properly. You need alsalib installed. However, when you run
asterisk it will probably conflict with chan_alsa(instaleld by default in
asterisk) which needs to be disabled from your system.

Bogdan


> I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a cm108
> chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and none of
> them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>
>
>
> I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it errors our
> asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that we can
> use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive quad
> card?
>
>
>
> Corey  N3FE
>
>
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>
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From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Thu Sep  9 11:35:01 2010
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W32EC5FF64C314E177392DDB1720@phx.gbl>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
	<BAY119-W32EC5FF64C314E177392DDB1720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2759.98.250.154.100.1284032101.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>


Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
others as they will end up wasting lots of time.

Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
& approved sound devices eventually?

Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually find.

Just curious & thanks.

Steve
N8LBV







>
> JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound
> cards.
> THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> systems.
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> From: n3fe at repeater.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> cm108 chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> none of
> them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>
>
>
> I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> errors our asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that
> we
> can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> quad
> card?
>
>
>
> Corey  N3FE
>
>
>
>  --
> This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> --
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Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
"Always Connected"

(734)527-7150

Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811


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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  9 14:35:20 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:20 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <2759.98.250.154.100.1284032101.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>, ,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>,
	<BAY119-W32EC5FF64C314E177392DDB1720@phx.gbl>,
	<2759.98.250.154.100.1284032101.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W6A65EDB4C51AA0170DA66B1730@phx.gbl>


The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still very much
in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as pre-made USB soundcards
that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such things. The CM-108
was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found in such devices
and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to mention VERY good
value!). 

Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some new, different,
IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much just random??
I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps it would be worthwhile
to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this application.

If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.

JIM WB6NIL



> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> 
> 
> Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> 
> Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> & approved sound devices eventually?
> 
> Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually find.
> 
> Just curious & thanks.
> 
> Steve
> N8LBV
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound
> > cards.
> > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > systems.
> >
> > JIM WB6NIL
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > cm108 chip in it.  I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > none of
> > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> >
> >
> >
> > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > errors our asterisk with a 127 error.  Is there anything out there so that
> > we
> > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> > quad
> > card?
> >
> >
> >
> > Corey  N3FE
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
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> >
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> 
> 
> Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> "Always Connected"
> 
> (734)527-7150
> 
> Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
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From bbrown at byrg.net  Thu Sep  9 14:50:01 2010
From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bob_Brown_=2D_W=D8NQX?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:50:01 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W6A65EDB4C51AA0170DA66B1730@phx.gbl>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>
	<BAY119-W32EC5FF64C314E177392DDB1720@phx.gbl>
	<2759.98.250.154.100.1284032101.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
	<BAY119-W6A65EDB4C51AA0170DA66B1730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQMY=DaMNHAks7AkRe5R7t1SwNgzELGn1=Q84T@mail.gmail.com>

Jim

If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(

i can send you a few for testing & evauation.

if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of the
"clones" out there.
i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog
souces.

i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
they are just cluttering up the desk...




--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

   http://sm0kenet.net

   http://byrg.net

   http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its not how many watts you have,
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

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On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:

> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
> very much
> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
> pre-made USB soundcards
> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
> things. The CM-108
> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found
> in such devices
> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
> mention VERY good
> value!).
>
> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
> new, different,
> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much
> just random??
> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps it
> would be worthwhile
> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
> application.
>
> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
>
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>
> >
> >
> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> >
> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> > & approved sound devices eventually?
> >
> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
> find.
> >
> > Just curious & thanks.
> >
> > Steve
> > N8LBV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound
> > > cards.
> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > JIM WB6NIL
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > > none of
> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
> that
> > > we
> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> > > quad
> > > card?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Corey N3FE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> > "Always Connected"
> >
> > (734)527-7150
> >
> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> >
> >
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  9 14:50:39 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:50:39 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] How to determine which node is transmitting to
 the hub node
In-Reply-To: <op.viqzjup7b3mc4a@eeepc1000he>
References: <op.viqzjup7b3mc4a@eeepc1000he>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W3FC4FAA4AA6C7CB102194B1730@phx.gbl>


It's actually not too difficult.

>From the Asterisk CLI, do a rpt dump <nodenumber>
(where nodenumber is the node number of the HUB node)
This must be done on the system hosting the hub node.
The dump information will appear about 10 seconds after
the command is entered (this delay is quite intentional).

It will give alot of information. The interesting one in this case
is the 'link->lastrx' entry. This will be set to '1' for each link
whose peer is currently in the 'keyed' state.

In the following example, I did this from my hub node (2000) and intentionally
held the mic keyed on the Miami Mtn. repeater (node 2002). Note that under node
2002, it shows 'link->lastrx 1':

Node2000*CLI> rpt dump 2000
app_rpt struct dump requested for node 2000
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17602 rpt: ********** Variable Dump Start (app_rpt) **********
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17603 rpt: totx = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17604 rpt: myrpt->remrx = 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17605 rpt: lasttx = 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17606 rpt: elap = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17607 rpt: toexit = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17609 rpt: myrpt->keyed = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17610 rpt: myrpt->localtx = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17611 rpt: myrpt->callmode = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17612 rpt: myrpt->mustid = 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17613 rpt: myrpt->tounkeyed = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17614 rpt: myrpt->tonotify = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17615 rpt: myrpt->retxtimer = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17616 rpt: myrpt->totimer = 551659
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17617 rpt: myrpt->tailtimer = 995
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17618 rpt: myrpt->tailevent = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17619 rpt: myrpt->linkactivitytimer = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17620 rpt: myrpt->linkactivityflag = 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17621 rpt: myrpt->rptinacttimer = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17622 rpt: myrpt->rptinactwaskeyedflag = 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17623 rpt: myrpt->p.s[myrpt->p.sysstate_cur].sleepena = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17624 rpt: myrpt->sleeptimer = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17625 rpt: myrpt->sleep = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17626 rpt: myrpt->sleepreq = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17627 rpt: myrpt->p.parrotmode = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17628 rpt: myrpt->parrotonce = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17633 rpt: *** Link Name: 2023 ***
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17634 rpt:         link->lasttx 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17635 rpt:         link->lastrx 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17636 rpt:         link->connected 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17637 rpt:         link->hasconnected 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17638 rpt:         link->outbound 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17639 rpt:         link->disced 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17640 rpt:         link->killme 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17641 rpt:         link->disctime 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17642 rpt:         link->retrytimer 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17643 rpt:         link->retries = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17644 rpt:         link->reconnects = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17645 rpt:         link->newkey = 2
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17633 rpt: *** Link Name: 2002 ***
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17634 rpt:         link->lasttx 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17635 rpt:         link->lastrx 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17636 rpt:         link->connected 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17637 rpt:         link->hasconnected 1
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17638 rpt:         link->outbound 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17639 rpt:         link->disced 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17640 rpt:         link->killme 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17641 rpt:         link->disctime 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17642 rpt:         link->retrytimer 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17643 rpt:         link->retries = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17644 rpt:         link->reconnects = 0
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17645 rpt:         link->newkey = 2
[Sep  9 07:40:06] NOTICE[26251]: app_rpt.c:17656 rpt: ******* Variable Dump End (app_rpt) *******


JIM WB6NIL



> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 00:17:44 -0400
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> From: wa1sot at pcom.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] How to determine which node is transmitting to the	hub node
> 
> Is there any way to look at some log file to determine which node is  
> transmitting to a hub node?
> How can I determine which of the many nodes connected to the hub nodes has  
> a stuck transmitter?
> How can I determine which node is broken so I can disconnect it from the  
> hub node?
> Is there some type of IAX2 Packet that I can look for that indicates  
> transmit?
> Has anyone found a solution to this issue?
> Thanks,
> Jim WA1SOT
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
 		 	   		  
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From w0otm at w0otm.com  Thu Sep  9 14:34:16 2010
From: w0otm at w0otm.com (Marshall Dias)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:34:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
Message-ID: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>

This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.

What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an EchoStink node!

ok, im off my soapbox, thanks

md

----------------------------------------
From: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question 

Jim
 
If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained, 
thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
 
i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
 
if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of the "clones" out there.  
i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog souces. 
 
i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
they are just cluttering up the desk...
 
 
 
--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

   http://sm0kenet.net

   http://byrg.net

   http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its not how many watts you have, 
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK 

--


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:


The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still very much
in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as pre-made USB soundcards
that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such things. The CM-108

was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found in such devices
and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to mention VERY good
value!). 

Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some new, different,

IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much just random??
I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps it would be worthwhile
to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this application.

If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400 

> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> To: telesistant at hotmail.com

> CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com 



> 
> 
> Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> 
> Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested

> & approved sound devices eventually?
> 
> Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually find.

> 
> Just curious & thanks.
> 
> Steve
> N8LBV
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound

> > cards.
> > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > systems.
> >

> > JIM WB6NIL
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com

> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
> > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > none of
> > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.

> >
> >
> >
> > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so that
> > we
> > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive

> > quad
> > card?
> >
> >
> >
> > Corey N3FE
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.

> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com

> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com

> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> 
> 
> Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> "Always Connected"

> 
> (734)527-7150
> 
> Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> 
> 
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> This message has been scanned for viruses and
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From kd8b at thebades.net  Thu Sep  9 15:01:34 2010
From: kd8b at thebades.net (Doug Bade)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:01:34 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQMY=DaMNHAks7AkRe5R7t1SwNgzELGn1=Q84T@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9C57E487377F42CFBD0399CB427FA060@dell1>	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB71C3@exchange2003.repeater.net>	<BAY119-W32EC5FF64C314E177392DDB1720@phx.gbl>	<2759.98.250.154.100.1284032101.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>	<BAY119-W6A65EDB4C51AA0170DA66B1730@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikQMY=DaMNHAks7AkRe5R7t1SwNgzELGn1=Q84T@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005d01cb502f$e568d990$b03a8cb0$@thebades.net>

Several vendors that were shipping cm1xx based devices are now substituting
devices that use the SSS1623 sound chip in the device.. They seem to work
under Linux native for CentOS.. so maybe easy to implement.. I am using them
in D-Star repeater service for GMSK
 They have very similar characteristics
to a C-Media device but do use a more generic driver..

 

Doug 

KD8B

 

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Brown - W?NQX
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:50 AM
To: Jim Duuuude
Cc: app_rpt mailing list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

 

Jim

 

If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained, 

thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(

 

i can send you a few for testing & evauation.

 

if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of the
"clones" out there.  

i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog
souces. 

 

i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem

they are just cluttering up the desk...

 

 

 


--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

   http://sm0kenet.net <http://sm0kenet.net/> 

   http://byrg.net <http://byrg.net/> 

   http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net <http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net/> 

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its not how many watts you have, 
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

--





On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:

The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
very much
in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as pre-made
USB soundcards
that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
things. The CM-108
was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found
in such devices
and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
mention VERY good
value!). 

Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
new, different,
IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much
just random??
I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps it
would be worthwhile
to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
application.

If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.

JIM WB6NIL



> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400 


> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

> From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com 


> 
> 
> Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> 
> Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> & approved sound devices eventually?
> 
> Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually find.
> 
> Just curious & thanks.
> 
> Steve
> N8LBV
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound
> > cards.
> > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > systems.
> >
> > JIM WB6NIL
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > none of
> > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> >
> >
> >
> > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
that
> > we
> > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> > quad
> > card?
> >
> >
> >
> > Corey N3FE
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > --
> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > believed to be clean.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> 
> 
> Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> "Always Connected"
> 
> (734)527-7150
> 
> Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> 
> 
> -- 
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
> 


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From bbrown at byrg.net  Thu Sep  9 15:47:20 2010
From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bob_Brown_=2D_W=D8NQX?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:47:20 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>
References: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxx6ACYtzt=qvYr47D2T3TWJ-baK+qJdFT3G9b@mail.gmail.com>

sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
here.

yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them with
great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the DMK
device!

but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a great
long time and they work quite well,  last long time.

so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do it on
the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.

we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have a
dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of ham
radio!)

yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+ fobs i
have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would have many
usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some were. so i
gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.

if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have those
skills yet.

would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where i
can study up on this.
as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.
i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
the cm108 device.

yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in fact
several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to test
with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start playing....  to
come up with a solution.
or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us if it
is possible to change the code for these units.

i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes an
interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.

i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this list
these folks in particular:
w9sh
n4irs
wb6nil
kd8b
wa6zft
and many others.

to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....


--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

Its not how many watts you have,
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

--



On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:

> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
>
> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source
> of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK
> doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who
> have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much
> money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an
> EchoStink node!
>
> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
>
> md
> **
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> *Sent*: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> *To*: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
>
> *Subject*: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>
>
> Jim
>
> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
>
> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
>
> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of the
> "clones" out there.
> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog
> souces.
>
> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> they are just cluttering up the desk...
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks in Advance
>
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
>
>    Kansas City Metro Area
>
>    http://sm0kenet.net
>
>    http://byrg.net
>
>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
> Its not how many watts you have,
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
>
> --
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
>> very much
>> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
>> pre-made USB soundcards
>> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
>> things. The CM-108
>> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found
>> in such devices
>> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
>> mention VERY good
>> value!).
>>
>> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
>> new, different,
>> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much
>> just random??
>> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
>> it would be worthwhile
>> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
>> application.
>>
>> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
>>
>> JIM WB6NIL
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
>> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
>> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
>> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
>> >
>> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
>> > & approved sound devices eventually?
>> >
>> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
>> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
>> find.
>> >
>> > Just curious & thanks.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> > N8LBV
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
>> sound
>> > > cards.
>> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
>> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
>> > > systems.
>> > >
>> > > JIM WB6NIL
>> > >
>> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
>> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
>> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
>> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
>> > > none of
>> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
>> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
>> that
>> > > we
>> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
>> > > quad
>> > > card?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Corey N3FE
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
>> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> > > --
>> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and
>> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
>> > > believed to be clean.
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
>> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
>> > "Always Connected"
>> >
>> > (734)527-7150
>> >
>> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
>> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
>> > believed to be clean.
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Thu Sep  9 12:25:01 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Thu,  9 Sep 2010 08:25:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
Message-ID: <002201cb5039$f2140a8e$f0fefe0a@repeater.net>


It's not the idea of being cheap for me. It is as simple as I want to build it and experiment with it.  If I was going to put it at a site I would then get something I knew was reliable but I plan on testing it in the shack for now and learn it.

Corey
Sent from my Droid.



----- Reply message -----
From: "Marshall Dias" <w0otm at w0otm.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:59 am
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
To: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>, "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>, "@qrvc.com" <?=@qrvc.com>
Cc: "app_rpt mailing list" <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>

This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.

What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an EchoStink node!

ok, im off my soapbox, thanks

md

----------------------------------------
From: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

Jim

If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(

i can send you a few for testing & evauation.

if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of the "clones" out there.
i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog souces.

i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
they are just cluttering up the desk...



--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

   http://sm0kenet.net

   http://byrg.net

   http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its not how many watts you have,
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

--


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:


The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still very much
in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as pre-made USB soundcards
that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such things. The CM-108

was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found in such devices
and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to mention VERY good
value!).

Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some new, different,

IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much just random??
I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps it would be worthwhile
to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this application.

If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400

> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> To: telesistant at hotmail.com

> CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com



>
>
> Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
>
> Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested

> & approved sound devices eventually?
>
> Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually find.

>
> Just curious & thanks.
>
> Steve
> N8LBV
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound

> > cards.
> > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > systems.
> >

> > JIM WB6NIL
> >
> > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com

> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >
> > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > none of
> > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.

> >
> >
> >
> > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so that
> > we
> > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive

> > quad
> > card?
> >
> >
> >
> > Corey N3FE
> >
> >
> >
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From buddy at brannan.name  Thu Sep  9 16:36:57 2010
From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:36:57 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxx6ACYtzt=qvYr47D2T3TWJ-baK+qJdFT3G9b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>
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Message-ID: <2D867046-AD60-4980-8765-1947262ACFAE@brannan.name>

Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and running with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with my node under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to not phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to get an HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft K2/100. Seems to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as it's just ascii text over serial, but would need some direction as to what to modifry (break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with either a CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs. 
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - W?NQX wrote:

> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken here. 
>  
> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the DMK device!
>  
> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
>  
> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do it on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
>  
> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have a dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of ham radio!)
>  
> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+ fobs i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would have many usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some were. so i gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
>  
> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have those skills yet.
>  
> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where i can study up on this.
> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with. 
> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
> the cm108 device. 
>  
> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in fact several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to test with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start playing....  to come up with a solution.
> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us if it is possible to change the code for these units.
>  
> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes an interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
>  
> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this list
> these folks in particular:
> w9sh
> n4irs
> wb6nil
> kd8b
> wa6zft
> and many others.
>  
> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
>  
> 
> --
> Thanks in Advance
> 
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> 
>    Kansas City Metro Area
> 
> Its not how many watts you have, 
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
> 
> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an EchoStink node!
> 
> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
> 
> md
> 
> 
> From: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> 
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> 
> 
> Jim
>  
> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
>  
> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
>  
> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of the "clones" out there. 
> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog souces.
>  
> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> they are just cluttering up the desk...
>  
>  
>  
> 
> --
> Thanks in Advance
> 
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> 
>    Kansas City Metro Area
> 
>    http://sm0kenet.net
> 
>    http://byrg.net
> 
>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
> 
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
> 
> Its not how many watts you have, 
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still very much
> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as pre-made USB soundcards
> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such things. The CM-108
> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found in such devices
> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to mention VERY good
> value!). 
> 
> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some new, different,
> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much just random??
> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps it would be worthwhile
> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this application.
> 
> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
> 
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> > 
> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> > & approved sound devices eventually?
> > 
> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually find.
> > 
> > Just curious & thanks.
> > 
> > Steve
> > N8LBV
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound
> > > cards.
> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > JIM WB6NIL
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > > none of
> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so that
> > > we
> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> > > quad
> > > card?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Corey N3FE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
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> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> > "Always Connected"
> > 
> > (734)527-7150
> > 
> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > believed to be clean.
> > 
> 
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> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
> 
> 
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From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Thu Sep  9 16:12:53 2010
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:12:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <2D867046-AD60-4980-8765-1947262ACFAE@brannan.name>
References: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>
	<AANLkTikxx6ACYtzt=qvYr47D2T3TWJ-baK+qJdFT3G9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<2D867046-AD60-4980-8765-1947262ACFAE@brannan.name>
Message-ID: <3029.98.250.154.100.1284048773.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>

Humor: http://stuff.michiganbroadband.com/fobtee.jpg
If you'd like a nonproductive 20 second diversion.
I just might hve one made.

;-)



> Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it
> not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and
> running with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with
> my node under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to
> not phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to
> get an HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft
> K2/100. Seems to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as
> it's just ascii text over serial, but would need some direction as to what
> to modifry (break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with
> either a CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - W?NQX wrote:
>
>> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
>> here.
>>
>> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them
>> with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the
>> DMK device!
>>
>> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a
>> great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
>>
>> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do
>> it on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
>>
>> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
>> still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have
>> a dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of
>> ham radio!)
>>
>> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+
>> fobs i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would
>> have many usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some
>> were. so i gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
>>
>> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
>> app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have
>> those skills yet.
>>
>> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
>> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where
>> i can study up on this.
>> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.
>> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
>> the cm108 device.
>>
>> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in
>> fact several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to
>> test with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start
>> playing....  to come up with a solution.
>> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us
>> if it is possible to change the code for these units.
>>
>> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
>> system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes
>> an interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
>>
>> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this
>> list
>> these folks in particular:
>> w9sh
>> n4irs
>> wb6nil
>> kd8b
>> wa6zft
>> and many others.
>>
>> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
>>
>>    Kansas City Metro Area
>>
>> Its not how many watts you have,
>> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
>> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
>>
>> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great
>> source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize
>> them.  DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For
>> all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a
>> CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a
>> URI, go run an EchoStink node!
>>
>> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
>>
>> md
>>
>>
>> From: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
>> To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
>> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
>>
>> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
>>
>> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of
>> the "clones" out there.
>> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual
>> hong-knog souces.
>>
>> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
>> they are just cluttering up the desk...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
>>
>>    Kansas City Metro Area
>>
>>    http://sm0kenet.net
>>
>>    http://byrg.net
>>
>>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
>>
>> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>>
>> Its not how many watts you have,
>> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
>> very much
>> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
>> pre-made USB soundcards
>> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
>> things. The CM-108
>> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC
>> found in such devices
>> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
>> mention VERY good
>> value!).
>>
>> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
>> new, different,
>> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty
>> much just random??
>> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
>> it would be worthwhile
>> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
>> application.
>>
>> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
>>
>> JIM WB6NIL
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
>> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
>> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
>> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
>> >
>> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
>> > & approved sound devices eventually?
>> >
>> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
>> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
>> find.
>> >
>> > Just curious & thanks.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> > N8LBV
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
>> sound
>> > > cards.
>> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are
>> inconsistent.
>> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to
>> radio
>> > > systems.
>> > >
>> > > JIM WB6NIL
>> > >
>> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
>> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
>> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
>> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers
>> and
>> > > none of
>> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
>> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
>> that
>> > > we
>> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the
>> expensive
>> > > quad
>> > > card?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Corey N3FE
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
>> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> > > --
>> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and
>> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
>> > > believed to be clean.
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
>> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
>> > "Always Connected"
>> >
>> > (734)527-7150
>> >
>> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
>> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
>> > believed to be clean.
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
>


Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
"Always Connected"

(734)527-7150

Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811


-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
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From bbrown at byrg.net  Thu Sep  9 17:15:51 2010
From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bob_Brown_=2D_W=D8NQX?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:15:51 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <3029.98.250.154.100.1284048773.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
References: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>
	<AANLkTikxx6ACYtzt=qvYr47D2T3TWJ-baK+qJdFT3G9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<2D867046-AD60-4980-8765-1947262ACFAE@brannan.name>
	<3029.98.250.154.100.1284048773.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimWgCBfgQBSs2waMQ89=0Xk6rQbO6G9P=xmMDrr@mail.gmail.com>

I like it.... may have to have some made...hihi ;)
--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

   http://sm0kenet.net

   http://byrg.net

   http://kcdstar.byrg.net

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its not how many watts you have,
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

--



On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:12, Steve Gladden <steve at michiganbroadband.com>wrote:

> Humor: http://stuff.michiganbroadband.com/fobtee.jpg
> If you'd like a nonproductive 20 second diversion.
> I just might hve one made.
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
> > Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it
> > not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and
> > running with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with
> > my node under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic
> to
> > not phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to
> > get an HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft
> > K2/100. Seems to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as
> > it's just ascii text over serial, but would need some direction as to
> what
> > to modifry (break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with
> > either a CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs.
> > --
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - W?NQX wrote:
> >
> >> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
> >> here.
> >>
> >> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them
> >> with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the
> >> DMK device!
> >>
> >> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a
> >> great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
> >>
> >> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do
> >> it on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
> >>
> >> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
> >> still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have
> >> a dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of
> >> ham radio!)
> >>
> >> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+
> >> fobs i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would
> >> have many usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some
> >> were. so i gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
> >>
> >> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
> >> app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have
> >> those skills yet.
> >>
> >> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
> >> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where
> >> i can study up on this.
> >> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.
> >> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
> >> the cm108 device.
> >>
> >> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in
> >> fact several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to
> >> test with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start
> >> playing....  to come up with a solution.
> >> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us
> >> if it is possible to change the code for these units.
> >>
> >> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
> >> system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes
> >> an interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
> >>
> >> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this
> >> list
> >> these folks in particular:
> >> w9sh
> >> n4irs
> >> wb6nil
> >> kd8b
> >> wa6zft
> >> and many others.
> >>
> >> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks in Advance
> >>
> >>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> >>
> >>    Kansas City Metro Area
> >>
> >> Its not how many watts you have,
> >> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
> >> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
> >>
> >> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great
> >> source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize
> >> them.  DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For
> >> all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a
> >> CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a
> >> URI, go run an EchoStink node!
> >>
> >> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
> >>
> >> md
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> >> To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> >> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
> >>
> >> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
> >>
> >> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of
> >> the "clones" out there.
> >> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual
> >> hong-knog souces.
> >>
> >> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> >> they are just cluttering up the desk...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks in Advance
> >>
> >>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> >>
> >>    Kansas City Metro Area
> >>
> >>    http://sm0kenet.net
> >>
> >>    http://byrg.net
> >>
> >>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
> >>
> >> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
> >>
> >> Its not how many watts you have,
> >> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
> >> very much
> >> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
> >> pre-made USB soundcards
> >> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
> >> things. The CM-108
> >> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC
> >> found in such devices
> >> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
> >> mention VERY good
> >> value!).
> >>
> >> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
> >> new, different,
> >> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty
> >> much just random??
> >> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
> >> it would be worthwhile
> >> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
> >> application.
> >>
> >> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
> >>
> >> JIM WB6NIL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
> >>
> >> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> >> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> >> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> >> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> >> >
> >> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> >> > & approved sound devices eventually?
> >> >
> >> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> >> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
> >> find.
> >> >
> >> > Just curious & thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> > N8LBV
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
> >> sound
> >> > > cards.
> >> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are
> >> inconsistent.
> >> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to
> >> radio
> >> > > systems.
> >> > >
> >> > > JIM WB6NIL
> >> > >
> >> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> >> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> >> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> >> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers
> >> and
> >> > > none of
> >> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> >> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
> >> that
> >> > > we
> >> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the
> >> expensive
> >> > > quad
> >> > > card?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Corey N3FE
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >> > > --
> >> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> >> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> >> > > believed to be clean.
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> >> > "Always Connected"
> >> >
> >> > (734)527-7150
> >> >
> >> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> >> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> >> > believed to be clean.
> >> >
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> > --
> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > believed to be clean.
> >
>
>
> Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> "Always Connected"
>
> (734)527-7150
>
> Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
>
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:57:19 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <3029.98.250.154.100.1284048773.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
References: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>,
	<AANLkTikxx6ACYtzt=qvYr47D2T3TWJ-baK+qJdFT3G9b@mail.gmail.com>,
	<2D867046-AD60-4980-8765-1947262ACFAE@brannan.name>,
	<3029.98.250.154.100.1284048773.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W126EDA31AA8826ACFC1B73B1730@phx.gbl>


Well if we're REALLY going to commit this concept to ink (or paint rather)
I think its time to publicly make the story behind the 'FOB'  known so that 
this horrible misinformation can perhaps stop being propagated.

I named these things 'FROBS' *NOT* 'FOBS'. See http://catb.org/jargon/html/F/frob.html
for further explanation. Someone, I think Steve WA6ZFT either misinterpreted the name
or perhaps it was just a type-o, but in any case the 'FOB' thing just got to be what everyone
called them. If youre going to put it on a shirt, at least call it the correct name. 
Besides, 'FROB' will generate even more questions and strange looks then 'FOB'
would anyway, and if you see someone giving you a smug grin (and they appear to
be at least 50 years old), you should probably strongly encourage them to join
you singing a bar or 2 of 'Alice's PDP-10' (see http://www.hactrn.net/sra/alice).

"You can hack anything you want, with TECO and DDT"....

JIM WB6NIL


> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:12:53 -0400
> From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> To: buddy at brannan.name
> CC: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> 
> Humor: http://stuff.michiganbroadband.com/fobtee.jpg
> If you'd like a nonproductive 20 second diversion.
> I just might hve one made.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> > Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it
> > not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and
> > running with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with
> > my node under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to
> > not phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to
> > get an HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft
> > K2/100. Seems to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as
> > it's just ascii text over serial, but would need some direction as to what
> > to modifry (break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with
> > either a CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs.
> > --
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - W?NQX wrote:
> >
> >> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
> >> here.
> >>
> >> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them
> >> with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the
> >> DMK device!
> >>
> >> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a
> >> great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
> >>
> >> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do
> >> it on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
> >>
> >> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
> >> still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have
> >> a dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of
> >> ham radio!)
> >>
> >> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+
> >> fobs i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would
> >> have many usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some
> >> were. so i gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
> >>
> >> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
> >> app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have
> >> those skills yet.
> >>
> >> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
> >> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where
> >> i can study up on this.
> >> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.
> >> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
> >> the cm108 device.
> >>
> >> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in
> >> fact several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to
> >> test with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start
> >> playing....  to come up with a solution.
> >> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us
> >> if it is possible to change the code for these units.
> >>
> >> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
> >> system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes
> >> an interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
> >>
> >> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this
> >> list
> >> these folks in particular:
> >> w9sh
> >> n4irs
> >> wb6nil
> >> kd8b
> >> wa6zft
> >> and many others.
> >>
> >> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks in Advance
> >>
> >>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> >>
> >>    Kansas City Metro Area
> >>
> >> Its not how many watts you have,
> >> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
> >> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
> >>
> >> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great
> >> source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize
> >> them.  DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For
> >> all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a
> >> CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a
> >> URI, go run an EchoStink node!
> >>
> >> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
> >>
> >> md
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> >> To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> >> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
> >>
> >> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
> >>
> >> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of
> >> the "clones" out there.
> >> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual
> >> hong-knog souces.
> >>
> >> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> >> they are just cluttering up the desk...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks in Advance
> >>
> >>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> >>
> >>    Kansas City Metro Area
> >>
> >>    http://sm0kenet.net
> >>
> >>    http://byrg.net
> >>
> >>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
> >>
> >> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
> >>
> >> Its not how many watts you have,
> >> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
> >> very much
> >> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
> >> pre-made USB soundcards
> >> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
> >> things. The CM-108
> >> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC
> >> found in such devices
> >> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
> >> mention VERY good
> >> value!).
> >>
> >> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
> >> new, different,
> >> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty
> >> much just random??
> >> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
> >> it would be worthwhile
> >> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
> >> application.
> >>
> >> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
> >>
> >> JIM WB6NIL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
> >>
> >> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> >> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> >> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> >> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> >> >
> >> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> >> > & approved sound devices eventually?
> >> >
> >> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> >> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
> >> find.
> >> >
> >> > Just curious & thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> > N8LBV
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
> >> sound
> >> > > cards.
> >> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are
> >> inconsistent.
> >> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to
> >> radio
> >> > > systems.
> >> > >
> >> > > JIM WB6NIL
> >> > >
> >> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> >> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> >> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> >> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers
> >> and
> >> > > none of
> >> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> >> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
> >> that
> >> > > we
> >> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the
> >> expensive
> >> > > quad
> >> > > card?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Corey N3FE
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >> > > --
> >> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> >> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> >> > > believed to be clean.
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> >> > "Always Connected"
> >> >
> >> > (734)527-7150
> >> >
> >> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> >> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> >> > believed to be clean.
> >> >
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> > --
> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > believed to be clean.
> >
> 
> 
> Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> "Always Connected"
> 
> (734)527-7150
> 
> Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> 
> 
> -- 
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
 		 	   		  
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From bbrown at byrg.net  Thu Sep  9 18:00:24 2010
From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bob_Brown_=2D_W=D8NQX?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:00:24 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
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well that is a mouth full to say the least

but  it is a doable task.

may take me some time to learn this process

but sweeping audio  passbands  ez to do i have those tools at my disposal..

the other stuff .. well a small learning curve but i think it is doable.

and as for the "FOB"

~~~SNIP~~~
Besides, 'FROB' will generate even more questions and strange looks then
'FOB'
would anyway, and if you see someone giving you a smug grin (and they appear
to
be at least 50 years old), you should probably strongly encourage them to
join
you singing a bar or 2 of 'Alice's PDP-10' (see
http://www.hactrn.net/sra/alice).
"You can hack anything you want, with TECO and DDT"....
~~~SNIP

I can relate to this too...hihi ;)



--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

   http://sm0kenet.net

   http://byrg.net

   http://kcdstar.byrg.net

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its not how many watts you have,
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

--



On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:45, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:

> okay... you asked...
>
> First of all you need to get the detailed datasheet on the device
> especially
> the info on the HID interface part of the device (as far as what info is
> available
> to be sent/received about the IO pins, so that you can sense/control them).
> As an illustration of this, I included a copy of the CM108 datasheet. See
> section
> 7.4 on page 20 to see what I am talking about. Read the whole document
> regarding
> the HID interface. If this doesn't confuse and discourage you (it did me)
> please continue.
>
> Then you need to see if the device REALLY has the audio quality necessary
> for the task.
> It MUST have completely flat linear response from DC (yes, I REALLY MEAN
> DC!!!) to at
> least 20 KHz (so that squelch can be processed properly) at a sample rate
> of 48K Sampes/Sec.
> The device also must be capable of variable input and output gain in a
> reasonable range
> on par with the CM-108. I dont care what the specs say, you MUST verify
> this and see it for
> yourself by doing an audio sweep test and seeing its response (both in and
> out).
>
> If you happen to get this far, then you need to modify the HID routines (in
> chan_usbradio)
> to accommodate whatever the device does with its HID to make the IO work,
> and also possibly
> the routines that deal with audio gain settings of the device.
>
> Well, you asked....
>
> JIM
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:47:20 -0500
> From: bbrown at byrg.net
> To: w0otm at w0otm.com; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>
> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
> here.
>
> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them
> with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the DMK
> device!
>
> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a
> great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
>
> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do it
> on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
>
> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
> still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have a
> dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of ham
> radio!)
>
> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+ fobs i
> have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would have many
> usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some were. so i
> gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
>
> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
> app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have those
> skills yet.
>
> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where i
> can study up on this.
> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.
> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
> the cm108 device.
>
> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in fact
> several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to test
> with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start playing....  to
> come up with a solution.
> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us if
> it is possible to change the code for these units.
>
> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
> system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes an
> interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
>
> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this list
> these folks in particular:
> w9sh
> n4irs
> wb6nil
> kd8b
> wa6zft
> and many others.
>
> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
>
>
> --
> Thanks in Advance
>
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
>
>    Kansas City Metro Area
>
> Its not how many watts you have,
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> --
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
>
> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
>
> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source
> of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK
> doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who
> have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much
> money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an
> EchoStink node!
>
> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
>
> md
> **
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> *Sent*: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> *To*: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
>
> *Subject*: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>
>
> Jim
>
> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
>
> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
>
> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of the
> "clones" out there.
> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog
> souces.
>
> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> they are just cluttering up the desk...
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks in Advance
>
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
>
>    Kansas City Metro Area
>
>    http://sm0kenet.net
>
>    http://byrg.net
>
>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
> Its not how many watts you have,
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> --
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
> very much
> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
> pre-made USB soundcards
> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
> things. The CM-108
> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found
> in such devices
> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
> mention VERY good
> value!).
>
> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
> new, different,
> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much
> just random??
> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps it
> would be worthwhile
> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
> application.
>
> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
>
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>
> >
> >
> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> >
> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> > & approved sound devices eventually?
> >
> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
> find.
> >
> > Just curious & thanks.
> >
> > Steve
> > N8LBV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular sound
> > > cards.
> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > JIM WB6NIL
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > > none of
> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
> that
> > > we
> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> > > quad
> > > card?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Corey N3FE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > > --
> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > > believed to be clean.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > >
> >
> >
> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> > "Always Connected"
> >
> > (734)527-7150
> >
> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> >
> >
> > --
> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > believed to be clean.
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
>
>
>
>
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From w4rfj at comcast.net  Thu Sep  9 20:26:12 2010
From: w4rfj at comcast.net (Roger F. Jordan Sr.)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:26:12 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <2D867046-AD60-4980-8765-1947262ACFAE@brannan.name>
References: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>	<AANLkTikxx6ACYtzt=qvYr47D2T3TWJ-baK+qJdFT3G9b@mail.gmail.com>
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My hat is off to the experimenters...  But I have a problem with any ham
being referred to as CHEAP!  Ham radio is a hobby...  and If you want to go
out and spend your hard earned cash for a Cadillac...  by all means do it!!
Some of us like to build and play... so let us have our fun!!  Would you
think it proper if I called you stuck up because you do not care to get into
the nuts and bolts!!

My final statement...  and my Apology to the Steve's and Jim and everyone
here...    

I have found New-Egg to deliver what they advertise...  Just go to
newegg.com and do a search for cm108...  they go for about $17 plus
shipping...  They have the caps installed so that eliminates that cost!

Best 73 to all!

Roger W4RFJ

-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:37 PM
To: app_rpt mailing list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it
not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and running
with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with my node
under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to not
phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to get an
HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft K2/100. Seems
to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as it's just ascii
text over serial, but would need some direction as to what to modifry
(break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with either a
CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs. 
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - W?NQX wrote:

> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
here. 
>  
> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them
with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the DMK
device!
>  
> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a
great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
>  
> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do it
on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
>  
> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have a
dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of ham
radio!)
>  
> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+ fobs
i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would have many
usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some were. so i
gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
>  
> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have those
skills yet.
>  
> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where i
can study up on this.
> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with. 
> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
> the cm108 device. 
>  
> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in fact
several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to test
with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start playing....  to
come up with a solution.
> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us if
it is possible to change the code for these units.
>  
> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes an
interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
>  
> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this
list
> these folks in particular:
> w9sh
> n4irs
> wb6nil
> kd8b
> wa6zft
> and many others.
>  
> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
>  
> 
> --
> Thanks in Advance
> 
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> 
>    Kansas City Metro Area
> 
> Its not how many watts you have, 
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
> 
> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source
of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK
doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who
have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much
money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an
EchoStink node!
> 
> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
> 
> md
> 
> 
> From: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> 
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> 
> 
> Jim
>  
> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
>  
> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
>  
> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of
the "clones" out there. 
> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog
souces.
>  
> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> they are just cluttering up the desk...
>  
>  
>  
> 
> --
> Thanks in Advance
> 
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> 
>    Kansas City Metro Area
> 
>    http://sm0kenet.net
> 
>    http://byrg.net
> 
>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
> 
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
> 
> Its not how many watts you have, 
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
very much
> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
pre-made USB soundcards
> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
things. The CM-108
> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found
in such devices
> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
mention VERY good
> value!). 
> 
> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
new, different,
> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much
just random??
> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
it would be worthwhile
> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
application.
> 
> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
> 
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> > 
> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> > & approved sound devices eventually?
> > 
> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
find.
> > 
> > Just curious & thanks.
> > 
> > Steve
> > N8LBV
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
sound
> > > cards.
> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > JIM WB6NIL
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > > none of
> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
that
> > > we
> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> > > quad
> > > card?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Corey N3FE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > > --
> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > > believed to be clean.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> > "Always Connected"
> > 
> > (734)527-7150
> > 
> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > believed to be clean.
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Thu Sep  9 20:43:22 2010
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:43:22 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
In-Reply-To: <005101cb505d$46e00c20$d4a02460$@net>
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My two cents (well probably more like 1/2 cent):

Use what works for your particular application :)

I gladly spent the $80 for the URI from DMK and it's great, that was my
choice because I didn't have time to find and configure a CM108 based device
and I wanted to get out of the gate running quickly. I've actually bought
two total and I have -0- complaints about them, as I'm sure anyone will
attest.

But, as Roger put it below, this is ham radio, experimentation is encouraged
and allowed, no matter how much money it costs in the end!!! Fun is the
ultimate goal.

Have fun and play nicely folks...

de K1LNX
Stephen


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Roger F. Jordan Sr. <w4rfj at comcast.net>wrote:

> My hat is off to the experimenters...  But I have a problem with any ham
> being referred to as CHEAP!  Ham radio is a hobby...  and If you want to go
> out and spend your hard earned cash for a Cadillac...  by all means do it!!
> Some of us like to build and play... so let us have our fun!!  Would you
> think it proper if I called you stuck up because you do not care to get
> into
> the nuts and bolts!!
>
> My final statement...  and my Apology to the Steve's and Jim and everyone
> here...
>
> I have found New-Egg to deliver what they advertise...  Just go to
> newegg.com and do a search for cm108...  they go for about $17 plus
> shipping...  They have the caps installed so that eliminates that cost!
>
> Best 73 to all!
>
> Roger W4RFJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:
> app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
> On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:37 PM
> To: app_rpt mailing list
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>
> Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it
> not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and
> running
> with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with my node
> under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to not
> phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to get
> an
> HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft K2/100. Seems
> to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as it's just ascii
> text over serial, but would need some direction as to what to modifry
> (break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with either a
> CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - W?NQX wrote:
>
> > sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
> here.
> >
> > yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them
> with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the DMK
> device!
> >
> > but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a
> great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
> >
> > so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do it
> on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
> >
> > we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
> still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have a
> dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of ham
> radio!)
> >
> > yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+ fobs
> i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would have many
> usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some were. so i
> gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
> >
> > if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
> app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have those
> skills yet.
> >
> > would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
> > i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where
> i
> can study up on this.
> > as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.
> > i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
> > the cm108 device.
> >
> > yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in
> fact
> several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to test
> with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start playing....
>  to
> come up with a solution.
> > or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us if
> it is possible to change the code for these units.
> >
> > i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
> system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes an
> interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
> >
> > i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this
> list
> > these folks in particular:
> > w9sh
> > n4irs
> > wb6nil
> > kd8b
> > wa6zft
> > and many others.
> >
> > to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks in Advance
> >
> >    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> >
> >    Kansas City Metro Area
> >
> > Its not how many watts you have,
> > its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
> > This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
> >
> > What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source
> of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK
> doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who
> have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much
> money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an
> EchoStink node!
> >
> > ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
> >
> > md
> >
> >
> > From: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> > To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> >
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> > thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
> >
> > i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
> >
> > if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of
> the "clones" out there.
> > i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual
> hong-knog
> souces.
> >
> > i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> > they are just cluttering up the desk...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks in Advance
> >
> >    Bob Brown, W?NQX
> >
> >    Kansas City Metro Area
> >
> >    http://sm0kenet.net
> >
> >    http://byrg.net
> >
> >    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
> >
> > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
> >
> > Its not how many watts you have,
> > its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
> very much
> > in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
> pre-made USB soundcards
> > that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
> things. The CM-108
> > was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC
> found
> in such devices
> > and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
> mention VERY good
> > value!).
> >
> > Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
> new, different,
> > IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty
> much
> just random??
> > I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
> it would be worthwhile
> > to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
> application.
> >
> > If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
> >
> > JIM WB6NIL
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> > > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> > > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> > > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> > >
> > > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> > > & approved sound devices eventually?
> > >
> > > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> > > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
> find.
> > >
> > > Just curious & thanks.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > N8LBV
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
> sound
> > > > cards.
> > > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are
> inconsistent.
> > > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to
> radio
> > > > systems.
> > > >
> > > > JIM WB6NIL
> > > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > > > none of
> > > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
> that
> > > > we
> > > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the
> expensive
> > > > quad
> > > > card?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Corey N3FE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > > > --
> > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > > > believed to be clean.
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > > > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> > > "Always Connected"
> > >
> > > (734)527-7150
> > >
> > > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and
> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> > > believed to be clean.
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>



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From yokshs at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 10 03:37:28 2010
From: yokshs at sbcglobal.net (Yokshs)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:37:28 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
Message-ID: <01FE2E42450F4F3F9D668D687F363D6B@main>

Hello to the list,

> If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an EchoStink node!

I'd like to comment on this one.. There are a few of us "home brewers" left in this hobby. A large part of my Amateur station was home brewed. I take a great deal of pride in my equipment, especially the home built stuff. In many cases, these are my own designs, not just something I built from a kit. 

I'll bet that I'm not the only one here that wants to modify my own CM108 fob, rather than buy one. This is not necessarily because I'm a cheap skate. 

I'm sorry to read that you have a problem with homebrewing and the largest VOIP system in existence. 

Oh, and I do run a couple of Echolink nodes FWIW.. 

73,

Kyle
K0KN
Olathe, KS



--- Original Message ---

Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:34:16 -0500
From: "Marshall Dias" 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
To: "Bob Brown - W?NQX" <"Jim Duuuude"
Cc: app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
Message-ID: <6f67af69$13a951de$1b40031f$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.

What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an EchoStink node!

ok, im off my soapbox, thanks

md
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From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Fri Sep 10 17:45:11 2010
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:45:11 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] morse id?
Message-ID: <0EB1A37C-A908-4AAF-AD6C-A6E14A8A4996@jimsoffice.org>

I am having an issue with the morse id settings, it seems that no matter what I change them to, they actually never change when the node plays them

example:

[2142]
...
morse=morse2142
...

[morse2142]

speed=22
frequency=941
amplitude=4096
idfrequency=941
idamplitude=2048

I restarted asterisk after changing this (first doing a rpt reload and then a full restart) and it is still playing at 800hz at 18wpm

Anyone else noticing this same behavior?

Jim, K6JWN

From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Fri Sep 10 19:20:38 2010
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:20:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] morse id?
Message-ID: <fe8467.c29.12afd17a224.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

This this being downloaded from the portal or is it a register-only 
node?

Steve
WA6ZFT



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM, James Nessen wrote:

> I am having an issue with the morse id settings, it seems that no 
> matter what I change them to, they actually never change when the node 
> plays them
>
> example:
>
> [2142]
> ...
> morse=morse2142
> ...
>
> [morse2142]
>
> speed=22
> frequency=941
> amplitude=4096
> idfrequency=941
> idamplitude=2048
>
> I restarted asterisk after changing this (first doing a rpt reload and 
> then a full restart) and it is still playing at 800hz at 18wpm
>
> Anyone else noticing this same behavior?
>
> Jim, K6JWN
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users


From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Fri Sep 10 19:22:29 2010
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:22:29 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] morse id?
In-Reply-To: <fe8467.c29.12afd17a224.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
References: <fe8467.c29.12afd17a224.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6B5AC25-E048-4BDB-892C-A22C5C26D6DF@jimsoffice.org>

downloaded from the portal.

Jim

On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:20 PM, hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com wrote:

> This this being downloaded from the portal or is it a register-only node?
> 
> Steve
> WA6ZFT
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM, James Nessen wrote:
> 
>> I am having an issue with the morse id settings, it seems that no matter what I change them to, they actually never change when the node plays them
>> 
>> example:
>> 
>> [2142]
>> ...
>> morse=morse2142
>> ...
>> 
>> [morse2142]
>> 
>> speed=22
>> frequency=941
>> amplitude=4096
>> idfrequency=941
>> idamplitude=2048
>> 
>> I restarted asterisk after changing this (first doing a rpt reload and then a full restart) and it is still playing at 800hz at 18wpm
>> 
>> Anyone else noticing this same behavior?
>> 
>> Jim, K6JWN
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users



From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Fri Sep 10 19:32:12 2010
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:32:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] morse id?
Message-ID: <174ea07.c65.12afd2239b6.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

Hi Jim,

You are changing them at the portal level, and by editing rpt.conf, 
correct? Editing the config files on the server is not going to work
when the server has been set up to download its configuration from the 
portal.

Steve
WA6ZFT


On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:22 PM, James Nessen wrote:

> downloaded from the portal.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:20 PM, hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com wrote:
>
>> This this being downloaded from the portal or is it a register-only 
>> node?
>>
>> Steve
>> WA6ZFT
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM, James Nessen wrote:
>>
>>> I am having an issue with the morse id settings, it seems that no 
>>> matter what I change them to, they actually never change when the 
>>> node plays them
>>>
>>> example:
>>>
>>> [2142]
>>> ...
>>> morse=morse2142
>>> ...
>>>
>>> [morse2142]
>>>
>>> speed=22
>>> frequency=941
>>> amplitude=4096
>>> idfrequency=941
>>> idamplitude=2048
>>>
>>> I restarted asterisk after changing this (first doing a rpt reload 
>>> and then a full restart) and it is still playing at 800hz at 18wpm
>>>
>>> Anyone else noticing this same behavior?
>>>
>>> Jim, K6JWN
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users


From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Fri Sep 10 19:33:46 2010
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:33:46 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] morse id?
In-Reply-To: <174ea07.c65.12afd2239b6.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
References: <174ea07.c65.12afd2239b6.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
Message-ID: <0D926025-DC5B-40E9-9125-BB2DE38A84DD@jimsoffice.org>

Well, to temporarily test this, I have been modifying directly in rpt.conf and restarting and doing nothing at the portal level.

Jim, K6JWN

On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:32 PM, hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> You are changing them at the portal level, and by editing rpt.conf, correct? Editing the config files on the server is not going to work
> when the server has been set up to download its configuration from the portal.
> 
> Steve
> WA6ZFT
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:22 PM, James Nessen wrote:
> 
>> downloaded from the portal.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:20 PM, hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> This this being downloaded from the portal or is it a register-only node?
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> WA6ZFT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM, James Nessen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am having an issue with the morse id settings, it seems that no matter what I change them to, they actually never change when the node plays them
>>>> 
>>>> example:
>>>> 
>>>> [2142]
>>>> ...
>>>> morse=morse2142
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> [morse2142]
>>>> 
>>>> speed=22
>>>> frequency=941
>>>> amplitude=4096
>>>> idfrequency=941
>>>> idamplitude=2048
>>>> 
>>>> I restarted asterisk after changing this (first doing a rpt reload and then a full restart) and it is still playing at 800hz at 18wpm
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone else noticing this same behavior?
>>>> 
>>>> Jim, K6JWN
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>>>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users



From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Fri Sep 10 19:36:36 2010
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:36:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] morse id?
Message-ID: <126e53e.c7e.12afd264174.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>

That could be part of your problem. The config files in /etc/asterisk 
can't be changed when in portal download mode.
There is a way to override the downloaded config by making a directory 
with a certain name and then adding your changes
to override the downloade config in there. Jim posted something to the 
mailing list a while back, so search the archives
and see what you can find.

Steve
WA6ZFT



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:33 PM, James Nessen wrote:

> Well, to temporarily test this, I have been modifying directly in 
> rpt.conf and restarting and doing nothing at the portal level.
>
> Jim, K6JWN
>
> On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:32 PM, hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> You are changing them at the portal level, and by editing rpt.conf, 
>> correct? Editing the config files on the server is not going to work
>> when the server has been set up to download its configuration from 
>> the portal.
>>
>> Steve
>> WA6ZFT
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:22 PM, James Nessen wrote:
>>
>>> downloaded from the portal.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:20 PM, hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> This this being downloaded from the portal or is it a register-only 
>>>> node?
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>> WA6ZFT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM, James Nessen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am having an issue with the morse id settings, it seems that no 
>>>>> matter what I change them to, they actually never change when the 
>>>>> node plays them
>>>>>
>>>>> example:
>>>>>
>>>>> [2142]
>>>>> ...
>>>>> morse=morse2142
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> [morse2142]
>>>>>
>>>>> speed=22
>>>>> frequency=941
>>>>> amplitude=4096
>>>>> idfrequency=941
>>>>> idamplitude=2048
>>>>>
>>>>> I restarted asterisk after changing this (first doing a rpt reload 
>>>>> and then a full restart) and it is still playing at 800hz at 18wpm
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else noticing this same behavior?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim, K6JWN
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>>>>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users


From yokshs at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 11 04:12:59 2010
From: yokshs at sbcglobal.net (Yokshs)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:12:59 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
References: <mailman.50.1283965655.4582.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
Message-ID: <B40A5ADA85FB4174AC77B1535AB0F92E@main>

I bought a few cheap fobs on Ebay a while back. There's no discernable IC 
mounted on it. It's a very small PCB with a "blob", USB and 3.5mm audio 
connectors, several SMT components, 2 electrolytic caps, and a crystal.

The packaging has a few clues: CV060CF and CT023CF.

If these could be recognized by Asterisk, what would I do for PTT, COS? I'd 
be happy to use my homebrew Rigblaster with RS232 or with an RS232 to USB 
adapter.

73.

Kyle
K0KN


 nearly as concerned with COS/PTT 



From Tremors834 at aol.com  Mon Sep 13 11:06:27 2010
From: Tremors834 at aol.com (Tremors834 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:06:27 EDT
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
Message-ID: <4eb07.3dccc595.39bf5fb3@aol.com>

I am having trouble finding the Hostname/fqdn of my server. It's needed so  
I may remote/SSH using Putty. 
If I type Hostname at the command prompt I get the correct 1 word  
"hostname" but this it isn't enough I'm sure to remote SSH.
app_rpt was installed using the ACID iso. What would I need to do?
Thanks,
Gene
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From ckraly at gmail.com  Mon Sep 13 11:16:58 2010
From: ckraly at gmail.com (Chuck Kraly)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:16:58 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
In-Reply-To: <4eb07.3dccc595.39bf5fb3@aol.com>
References: <4eb07.3dccc595.39bf5fb3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=xUEQDMcr0WG688pdyy-iMifQAY7FmJfN9ZX2P@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a link on how to change it....

http://www.techiecorner.com/99/how-to-change-hostname-in-linux/
Chuck K0XM

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:06 AM, <Tremors834 at aol.com> wrote:

>  I am having trouble finding the Hostname/fqdn of my server. It's needed
> so I may remote/SSH using Putty.
> If I type Hostname at the command prompt I get the correct 1 word
> "hostname" but this it isn't enough I'm sure to remote SSH.
> app_rpt was installed using the ACID iso. What would I need to do?
> Thanks,
> Gene
> KC2WDZ
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From david.osborn at manx.net  Mon Sep 13 17:14:36 2010
From: david.osborn at manx.net (David Osborn)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:14:36 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1284393601.25119.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
References: <mailman.1.1284393601.25119.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
Message-ID: <002701cb5367$24fb7fb0$6ef27f10$@osborn@manx.net>

To SSH to your machine from the outside world - i.e. to access it from
another location, such as the office - you will need to know the public IP
address of your internet connection and, additionally, you will need to have
the port that is set-up for SSH (222 by default) forwarded to your Linux
box.

If your internet connection is assigned a dynamic IP address (and many are),
then this will change each time you re-connect to the net. In this case, I
recommend signing-up to one of the free Dynamic DNS services out there, then
you will have a name (e.g. AllStarNode at dyndns.org) that you can use. There
are also Dynamic Dns update clients (e.g. ddclient), that you install on
your PC which will keep the dynamic DNS server updated with your address.
Alternatively, many ADSL routers support automatic Dynamic DNS updates.

It sounds like a lot, but it's pretty straightforward.

To discover your present public IP address, type "curl whatismyip.org" at
the console prompt.

Bottom line is that the one thing that you don't actually need to access
your Linux machine from the outside world is its own hostname :-)

I hope that helps a little.

David Osborn
GD4HOZ


Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:06:27 EDT
From: Tremors834 at aol.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Message-ID: <4eb07.3dccc595.39bf5fb3 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I am having trouble finding the Hostname/fqdn of my server. It's needed so  
I may remote/SSH using Putty. 
If I type Hostname at the command prompt I get the correct 1 word  
"hostname" but this it isn't enough I'm sure to remote SSH.
app_rpt was installed using the ACID iso. What would I need to do?
Thanks,
Gene
KC2WDZ
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:16:58 -0500
From: Chuck Kraly <ckraly at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
To: Tremors834 at aol.com
Cc: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Message-ID:
	<AANLkTi=xUEQDMcr0WG688pdyy-iMifQAY7FmJfN9ZX2P at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Here is a link on how to change it....

http://www.techiecorner.com/99/how-to-change-hostname-in-linux/
Chuck K0XM

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:06 AM, <Tremors834 at aol.com> wrote:

>  I am having trouble finding the Hostname/fqdn of my server. It's needed
> so I may remote/SSH using Putty.
> If I type Hostname at the command prompt I get the correct 1 word
> "hostname" but this it isn't enough I'm sure to remote SSH.
> app_rpt was installed using the ACID iso. What would I need to do?
> Thanks,
> Gene
> KC2WDZ
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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From vk4akp at yahoo.com.au  Wed Sep 15 13:53:59 2010
From: vk4akp at yahoo.com.au (Ken Page)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:53:59 +1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 19, Issue 21
References: <mailman.1.1284480001.12221.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
Message-ID: <03ca01cb54dd$738c6f00$6f01a8c0@vk4akp>

Hi Guys,

Could do with some help with some idea's if possible?

I'd like to add a feature so people on the repeater can dial the console 
phone here on the TDM400P card.

The idea is they dial say *9 and it goes to the TDM400P phone.
If no answer after X amount of rings it diverts to voice mail.
The voice mail is then sent to my email address.

Wondering if anyone has any configs for this sort of thing already that I 
could have?

I've also added a cheap C-Media CM-108 USB dongle to the system that I'd 
like to drop a scanner on.
There's no need for PTT COS etc as it's only for RX only .
I'm also wondering if anyone has or would like to start a node list for 
receive only devices like this. Similar to the PTT_Link nodes?
I'm yet to get this USB dongle up on the Asterisk box but I'm sure it's only 
a config thing I have missed somewhere if someone is interested in looking 
at it for me?


Regards,
Ken - vk4akp
All_Star # 2134 (VK4RKP Mt Crosby).
http://shazam.zapto.org
.-.-.


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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:14:36 +0100
> From: "David Osborn" <david.osborn at manx.net>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
> To: <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
> Message-ID: <002701cb5367$24fb7fb0$6ef27f10$@osborn at manx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> To SSH to your machine from the outside world - i.e. to access it from
> another location, such as the office - you will need to know the public IP
> address of your internet connection and, additionally, you will need to 
> have
> the port that is set-up for SSH (222 by default) forwarded to your Linux
> box.
>
> If your internet connection is assigned a dynamic IP address (and many 
> are),
> then this will change each time you re-connect to the net. In this case, I
> recommend signing-up to one of the free Dynamic DNS services out there, 
> then
> you will have a name (e.g. AllStarNode at dyndns.org) that you can use. There
> are also Dynamic Dns update clients (e.g. ddclient), that you install on
> your PC which will keep the dynamic DNS server updated with your address.
> Alternatively, many ADSL routers support automatic Dynamic DNS updates.
>
> It sounds like a lot, but it's pretty straightforward.
>
> To discover your present public IP address, type "curl whatismyip.org" at
> the console prompt.
>
> Bottom line is that the one thing that you don't actually need to access
> your Linux machine from the outside world is its own hostname :-)
>
> I hope that helps a little.
>
> David Osborn
> GD4HOZ
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:06:27 EDT
> From: Tremors834 at aol.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Message-ID: <4eb07.3dccc595.39bf5fb3 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I am having trouble finding the Hostname/fqdn of my server. It's needed so
> I may remote/SSH using Putty.
> If I type Hostname at the command prompt I get the correct 1 word
> "hostname" but this it isn't enough I'm sure to remote SSH.
> app_rpt was installed using the ACID iso. What would I need to do?
> Thanks,
> Gene
> KC2WDZ
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> From: Chuck Kraly <ckraly at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
> To: Tremors834 at aol.com
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>
> Here is a link on how to change it....
>
> http://www.techiecorner.com/99/how-to-change-hostname-in-linux/
> Chuck K0XM
>
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:06 AM, <Tremors834 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>  I am having trouble finding the Hostname/fqdn of my server. It's needed
>> so I may remote/SSH using Putty.
>> If I type Hostname at the command prompt I get the correct 1 word
>> "hostname" but this it isn't enough I'm sure to remote SSH.
>> app_rpt was installed using the ACID iso. What would I need to do?
>> Thanks,
>> Gene
>> KC2WDZ
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Wed Sep 15 14:36:18 2010
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:36:18 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 19, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <03ca01cb54dd$738c6f00$6f01a8c0@vk4akp>
References: <mailman.1.1284480001.12221.app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>
	<03ca01cb54dd$738c6f00$6f01a8c0@vk4akp>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinWpv6wAkd8VtiNVnzxVMRJwoe8MP71sAD4wfr+@mail.gmail.com>

To ring a phone you'll want to add this to extensions.conf (this is a rough
idea, and there may be other ways to implement it):

exten => *9,1,Answer
exten => *9,n,Dial(ZAP/x,10)
exten => *9,n,Voicemail(mailbox, options, etc.)
exten => *9,n,Hangup

In priority 2 (the second line), the "x" after zap represents the zap
channel on the TDM400 you are using, and the "10" indicates the amount in
seconds of ringtime. If no one answers within 10 seconds, then it goes to
voicemail. I've not done much with setting up voicemail from scratch, but
there is some good documentation here to use as a guide:

http://www.asterisk.org/docs/asterisk/trunk/applications/voicemail?type=applications&value=VoiceMail

This will give you roughly what you are trying to accomplish, I think you'll
need to setup voicemail.conf for email notification etc.

Hope this helps, and anyone please feel free to correct me if any of my
syntax is wrong :)

Stephen
K1LNX

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Ken Page <vk4akp at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Could do with some help with some idea's if possible?
>
> I'd like to add a feature so people on the repeater can dial the console
> phone here on the TDM400P card.
>
> The idea is they dial say *9 and it goes to the TDM400P phone.
> If no answer after X amount of rings it diverts to voice mail.
> The voice mail is then sent to my email address.
>
> Wondering if anyone has any configs for this sort of thing already that I
> could have?
>
> I've also added a cheap C-Media CM-108 USB dongle to the system that I'd
> like to drop a scanner on.
> There's no need for PTT COS etc as it's only for RX only .
> I'm also wondering if anyone has or would like to start a node list for
> receive only devices like this. Similar to the PTT_Link nodes?
> I'm yet to get this USB dongle up on the Asterisk box but I'm sure it's
> only
> a config thing I have missed somewhere if someone is interested in looking
> at it for me?
>
>
> Regards,
> Ken - vk4akp
> All_Star # 2134 (VK4RKP Mt Crosby).
> http://shazam.zapto.org
> .-.-.
>
>
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> To: <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:00 AM
> Subject: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 19, Issue 21
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> >
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> >   1. Re: Hostname/fqdn (David Osborn)
> >
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> > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:14:36 +0100
> > From: "David Osborn" <david.osborn at manx.net>
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
> > To: <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
> > Message-ID: <002701cb5367$24fb7fb0$6ef27f10$@osborn at manx.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > To SSH to your machine from the outside world - i.e. to access it from
> > another location, such as the office - you will need to know the public
> IP
> > address of your internet connection and, additionally, you will need to
> > have
> > the port that is set-up for SSH (222 by default) forwarded to your Linux
> > box.
> >
> > If your internet connection is assigned a dynamic IP address (and many
> > are),
> > then this will change each time you re-connect to the net. In this case,
> I
> > recommend signing-up to one of the free Dynamic DNS services out there,
> > then
> > you will have a name (e.g. AllStarNode at dyndns.org) that you can use.
> There
> > are also Dynamic Dns update clients (e.g. ddclient), that you install on
> > your PC which will keep the dynamic DNS server updated with your address.
> > Alternatively, many ADSL routers support automatic Dynamic DNS updates.
> >
> > It sounds like a lot, but it's pretty straightforward.
> >
> > To discover your present public IP address, type "curl whatismyip.org"
> at
> > the console prompt.
> >
> > Bottom line is that the one thing that you don't actually need to access
> > your Linux machine from the outside world is its own hostname :-)
> >
> > I hope that helps a little.
> >
> > David Osborn
> > GD4HOZ
> >
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:06:27 EDT
> > From: Tremors834 at aol.com
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hostname/fqdn
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> > I am having trouble finding the Hostname/fqdn of my server. It's needed
> so
> > I may remote/SSH using Putty.
> > If I type Hostname at the command prompt I get the correct 1 word
> > "hostname" but this it isn't enough I'm sure to remote SSH.
> > app_rpt was installed using the ACID iso. What would I need to do?
> > Thanks,
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From monty at ke7jvx.com  Wed Sep 15 19:59:43 2010
From: monty at ke7jvx.com (Monty Dana)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:59:43 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Echolink Config
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Hello Everyone,

I was looking through my echolink.conf and I was wondering if anyone could
enlighten me on what the recfile= does?  Is it like a welcome message?  I
have a few custom recordings and would like to do a welcome message when
people connect via echolink.

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From n3fe at repeater.net  Thu Sep 16 15:41:16 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:41:16 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New User Question
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Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB7203@exchange2003.repeater.net>

I have been enjoying working on my node now that I have found a couple
of the right sound fobs.  This morning I created a couple of sound files
in the right format and put them where they were suppose to go and all
is working well.

 

I was in monitor mode listening to the Winsystem earlier today and my
voiceid went off.  I heard someone from the winsystem say that they
heard my voice id and it came across the whole system.  

 

As far as configuring the node for the id all I did was was comment out
the cw line using a ; and retyped the line as to where my sound file
went.  Is there something I am missing?  I thought using the *2 command
put the link in monitor only.  That is what it stated.  Why would they
be hearing my voice id's coming across their asterisk repeaters?  I
think this happened this morning as well when I was connected to another
all star node...

 

Any ideas or suggestions?

 

Corey  N3FE

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From n3fe at repeater.net  Thu Sep 16 16:23:41 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:23:41 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New User Question
References: <AANLkTik5H_MdkWaU+_vaLbpKe8eer5X6Oa6OSFq0kR+a@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTikETq4XVGAOKe04FGUjOTrhrvgMJz2d60anfyNF@mail.gmail.com>
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Would a *80 (force id) sent it out all channels?  Maybe that is all it
is....

 

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[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Corey Dean N3FE
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:41 AM
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New User Question

 

I have been enjoying working on my node now that I have found a couple
of the right sound fobs.  This morning I created a couple of sound files
in the right format and put them where they were suppose to go and all
is working well.

 

I was in monitor mode listening to the Winsystem earlier today and my
voiceid went off.  I heard someone from the winsystem say that they
heard my voice id and it came across the whole system.  

 

As far as configuring the node for the id all I did was was comment out
the cw line using a ; and retyped the line as to where my sound file
went.  Is there something I am missing?  I thought using the *2 command
put the link in monitor only.  That is what it stated.  Why would they
be hearing my voice id's coming across their asterisk repeaters?  I
think this happened this morning as well when I was connected to another
all star node...

 

Any ideas or suggestions?

 

Corey  N3FE

Allstar node 2337 

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From hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com  Thu Sep 16 18:40:38 2010
From: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com (hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:40:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New User Question
Message-ID: <36cc8a.32f.12b1bd92bfd.Webtop.120@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>




On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Corey Dean   N3FE wrote:

> I have been enjoying working on my node now that I have found a couple
> of the right sound fobs.  This morning I created a couple of sound 
> files
> in the right format and put them where they were suppose to go and all
> is working well.
>
>
> I was in monitor mode listening to the Winsystem earlier today and my
> voiceid went off.  I heard someone from the winsystem say that they
> heard my voice id and it came across the whole system.
>
> As far as configuring the node for the id all I did was was comment 
> out
> the cw line using a ; and retyped the line as to where my sound file
> went.  Is there something I am missing?  I thought using the *2 
> command
> put the link in monitor only.  That is what it stated.  Why would they
> be hearing my voice id's coming across their asterisk repeaters?  I
> think this happened this morning as well when I was connected to 
> another
> all star node...
>
>
> Any ideas or suggestions?
>
>
> Corey  N3FE
>
> Allstar node 2337
>
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ID sound files should be played locally only.

Is it reproducible 100% of the time? and does it only happen when in 
monitor mode and not transceive mode?
What version of app_rpt are you running?
Set your ID timer to 30 seconds and play with it in monitor and 
tranceive on another node you can monitor outside
of the WinSystem.

Steve
WA6ZFT




From n3fe at repeater.net  Thu Sep 16 20:18:50 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:18:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New User Question
Message-ID: <000901cb55dc$676ccec2$f0fefe0a@repeater.net>


The only time it has done it was twice today and only in monitor mode.  I stayed connected to a friends node for the rest of the day and it didn't happen again. Tomorrow I will keep it in receive mode and see if it happens again.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone



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From: "hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com" <hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 3:54 pm
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New User Question
To: "n3fe at repeater.net" <n3fe at repeater.net>
Cc: "app_rpt-users at qrvc.com" <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>




On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Corey Dean   N3FE wrote:

> I have been enjoying working on my node now that I have found a couple
> of the right sound fobs.  This morning I created a couple of sound 
> files
> in the right format and put them where they were suppose to go and all
> is working well.
>
>
> I was in monitor mode listening to the Winsystem earlier today and my
> voiceid went off.  I heard someone from the winsystem say that they
> heard my voice id and it came across the whole system.
>
> As far as configuring the node for the id all I did was was comment 
> out
> the cw line using a ; and retyped the line as to where my sound file
> went.  Is there something I am missing?  I thought using the *2 
> command
> put the link in monitor only.  That is what it stated.  Why would they
> be hearing my voice id's coming across their asterisk repeaters?  I
> think this happened this morning as well when I was connected to 
> another
> all star node...
>
>
> Any ideas or suggestions?
>
>
> Corey  N3FE
>
> Allstar node 2337
>
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ID sound files should be played locally only.

Is it reproducible 100% of the time? and does it only happen when in 
monitor mode and not transceive mode?
What version of app_rpt are you running?
Set your ID timer to 30 seconds and play with it in monitor and 
tranceive on another node you can monitor outside
of the WinSystem.

Steve
WA6ZFT



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From n3fe at repeater.net  Fri Sep 17 18:00:30 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:00:30 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New User Question
References: <000901cb55dc$676ccec2$f0fefe0a@repeater.net>
Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB7211@exchange2003.repeater.net>

The problem hasn't came back at all today.  Not sure what happened.

Now, I am getting ready to add anoth usb sound frob to the system.  I
have tried a few things but I can't seem to find how to activate it for
the port I want.  

I have to be missing something.  When I go into radio-tune-menu it says
it isn't active.  It doesn't have any audio coming out the thing either.
Any suggestions?

Yes, I am using the right fobs...

Corey  N3FE

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From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Corey Dean N3FE
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:19 PM
To: hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com
Cc: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New User Question


The only time it has done it was twice today and only in monitor mode.
I stayed connected to a friends node for the rest of the day and it
didn't happen again. Tomorrow I will keep it in receive mode and see if
it happens again.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone



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From: "hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com" <hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 3:54 pm
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New User Question
To: "n3fe at repeater.net" <n3fe at repeater.net>
Cc: "app_rpt-users at qrvc.com" <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>




On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Corey Dean   N3FE wrote:

> I have been enjoying working on my node now that I have found a couple
> of the right sound fobs.  This morning I created a couple of sound 
> files
> in the right format and put them where they were suppose to go and all
> is working well.
>
>
> I was in monitor mode listening to the Winsystem earlier today and my
> voiceid went off.  I heard someone from the winsystem say that they
> heard my voice id and it came across the whole system.
>
> As far as configuring the node for the id all I did was was comment 
> out
> the cw line using a ; and retyped the line as to where my sound file
> went.  Is there something I am missing?  I thought using the *2 
> command
> put the link in monitor only.  That is what it stated.  Why would they
> be hearing my voice id's coming across their asterisk repeaters?  I
> think this happened this morning as well when I was connected to 
> another
> all star node...
>
>
> Any ideas or suggestions?
>
>
> Corey  N3FE
>
> Allstar node 2337
>
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ID sound files should be played locally only.

Is it reproducible 100% of the time? and does it only happen when in 
monitor mode and not transceive mode?
What version of app_rpt are you running?
Set your ID timer to 30 seconds and play with it in monitor and 
tranceive on another node you can monitor outside
of the WinSystem.

Steve
WA6ZFT



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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 18 15:29:34 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:29:34 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Echolink Config
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I dont think it does anything. It was probably something that scott put in it
originially with something in mind and never did anything with it.

JIM WB6NIL

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:59:43 -0700
From: monty at ke7jvx.com
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Echolink Config

Hello Everyone,

I was looking through my echolink.conf and I was wondering if anyone could enlighten me on what the recfile= does?  Is it like a welcome message?  I have a few custom recordings and would like to do a welcome message when people connect via echolink.


Thanks,
Monty





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From n3fe at repeater.net  Sun Sep 19 01:59:03 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:59:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] One last thing...
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I am loving the app_rpt node.  I am having a blast with it and it is quite powerful, but I have one last thing I just can't figure out.

The audio coming from allison and other connect messages, even playing the time with the male voice crackles.  It doesn't matter if I lower the audio in the configs or not.  I even wired up a powered speaker and have the same result.  The audio sounds like it is 5KHZ off.  Changes the settings in radio tune only lowers the levels, it doesn't remove the crackles, it just lowers the volume of the crackles.  Any ideas on where I should be looking to rememdy this?  Is there a setting somewhere where I can lower the built in voice? 

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From ke2n at cs.com  Sun Sep 19 02:29:23 2010
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:29:23 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] One last thing...
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References: <AANLkTik5H_MdkWaU+_vaLbpKe8eer5X6Oa6OSFq0kR+a@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTikETq4XVGAOKe04FGUjOTrhrvgMJz2d60anfyNF@mail.gmail.com>	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB7203@exchange2003.repeater.net>
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You should be using one of the USB options that limits the audio output
level (txprelim=yes or txlimonly=yes)

And

If you are running composite audio, you need to  make sure that the txtone
and txvoice settings together do not total more than 1000.

Otherwise  you will overdrive the sound device and make nasty noises.

 

Ken

KE2N

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Corey Dean N3FE
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:59 PM
To: Corey Dean N3FE; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] One last thing...

 

 

I am loving the app_rpt node.  I am having a blast with it and it is quite
powerful, but I have one last thing I just can't figure out.

The audio coming from allison and other connect messages, even playing the
time with the male voice crackles.  It doesn't matter if I lower the audio
in the configs or not.  I even wired up a powered speaker and have the same
result.  The audio sounds like it is 5KHZ off.  Changes the settings in
radio tune only lowers the levels, it doesn't remove the crackles, it just
lowers the volume of the crackles.  Any ideas on where I should be looking
to rememdy this?  Is there a setting somewhere where I can lower the built
in voice?

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From n3fe at repeater.net  Sun Sep 19 02:58:15 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:58:15 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] One last thing...
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All fixed!  Thank you...  I guess I was over driving the fob.  I had the voice audio at 950 to get it where I needed it.  I had the tx pl to high.  Now it is to low.  Guess I will be building up an op amp so I can get things where it should be.

Thanks for the fast response!  That could care of everything!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ken [mailto:ke2n at cs.com]
Sent: Sat 9/18/2010 10:29 PM
To: Corey Dean   N3FE; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] One last thing...
 
You should be using one of the USB options that limits the audio output
level (txprelim=yes or txlimonly=yes)

And

If you are running composite audio, you need to  make sure that the txtone
and txvoice settings together do not total more than 1000.

Otherwise  you will overdrive the sound device and make nasty noises.

 

Ken

KE2N

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Corey Dean N3FE
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:59 PM
To: Corey Dean N3FE; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] One last thing...

 

 

I am loving the app_rpt node.  I am having a blast with it and it is quite
powerful, but I have one last thing I just can't figure out.

The audio coming from allison and other connect messages, even playing the
time with the male voice crackles.  It doesn't matter if I lower the audio
in the configs or not.  I even wired up a powered speaker and have the same
result.  The audio sounds like it is 5KHZ off.  Changes the settings in
radio tune only lowers the levels, it doesn't remove the crackles, it just
lowers the volume of the crackles.  Any ideas on where I should be looking
to rememdy this?  Is there a setting somewhere where I can lower the built
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From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Sun Sep 19 12:49:58 2010
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:49:58 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
Message-ID: <4C9606F6.7040303@cogeco.ca>

  Hi All, I have been having this problem for quire some time.
I have a server box that has 2 nodes on it with URIs.
The first node is 2379 (USB0) and the second is 2416 (USB1).
The problem is the first node seems to stop talking to the URI randomly.
The computer says its still connected to the URI but the URI wont key 
the radio nor any RX audio comes through when this happens.
Asterisk reports the 2 nodes connected internally when its in this faild 
mode and I can get audio from the second node 2416 if I am connected to 
2379 with an other node but no audio is transmitted out on 2379.

The 2 nodes are simplex nodes. These 2 nodes create a link bridge to 
connect 2 repeaters together.
I normally have a start up macro to connect the 2 nodes and its a perm 
link.
When the first node stops talking to the URI the kink goes down between 
the 2 repeaters.

We tried swapping the 2 URIs to see if the problem follows the URI but 
no it always happens on the first node 2379.

The only way I know how to get it going again is to remotely reboot the 
box. Nothing else will get the node working again.

The original box (p4 3 gig IBM) was set up the same way and the same 
thing was happening once every 2 to 3 weeks.
Since then that original box died- ps failure so I rebuilt the box in 
July on an other machine (p4 3gig HP).
Now we get the same failure but much more often.  Now it happens on the 
average once aver 2 days and some times within 8 hours of a re boot!

When I rebuilt the node I used the latest Acid cd at the time and re did 
all the conf files with the latest configs so no copying from the 
original backup files. So this is 2 different computers with 2 different 
builds with the same problem.

Here's the node info :

app Rpt  version 0.255
These are migrated nodes.
The URIs are original CM108 units.

I did report this issue some time ago but nobody has any ideas as to 
whats going on. This time I knbow its got to be something in software on 
the first node.
Sorry for the long post but this has been nagging me for some time and 
now its getting to the point that I have to reboot the box before nets 
to make sure its working and even then there is no guarantee it will 
stay connected.

Thanks,

Jon VA3RQ




From telesistant at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 19 13:07:33 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:07:33 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
In-Reply-To: <4C9606F6.7040303@cogeco.ca>
References: <4C9606F6.7040303@cogeco.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W27C486F595002674B334F8B17D0@phx.gbl>


are you saying that merely stopping and starting Asterisk does not fix 
the problem. You actually HAVE to reboot to get it going again??

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:49:58 -0400
> From: jrorke at cogeco.ca
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
> 
>   Hi All, I have been having this problem for quire some time.
> I have a server box that has 2 nodes on it with URIs.
> The first node is 2379 (USB0) and the second is 2416 (USB1).
> The problem is the first node seems to stop talking to the URI randomly.
> The computer says its still connected to the URI but the URI wont key 
> the radio nor any RX audio comes through when this happens.
> Asterisk reports the 2 nodes connected internally when its in this faild 
> mode and I can get audio from the second node 2416 if I am connected to 
> 2379 with an other node but no audio is transmitted out on 2379.
> 
> The 2 nodes are simplex nodes. These 2 nodes create a link bridge to 
> connect 2 repeaters together.
> I normally have a start up macro to connect the 2 nodes and its a perm 
> link.
> When the first node stops talking to the URI the kink goes down between 
> the 2 repeaters.
> 
> We tried swapping the 2 URIs to see if the problem follows the URI but 
> no it always happens on the first node 2379.
> 
> The only way I know how to get it going again is to remotely reboot the 
> box. Nothing else will get the node working again.
> 
> The original box (p4 3 gig IBM) was set up the same way and the same 
> thing was happening once every 2 to 3 weeks.
> Since then that original box died- ps failure so I rebuilt the box in 
> July on an other machine (p4 3gig HP).
> Now we get the same failure but much more often.  Now it happens on the 
> average once aver 2 days and some times within 8 hours of a re boot!
> 
> When I rebuilt the node I used the latest Acid cd at the time and re did 
> all the conf files with the latest configs so no copying from the 
> original backup files. So this is 2 different computers with 2 different 
> builds with the same problem.
> 
> Here's the node info :
> 
> app Rpt  version 0.255
> These are migrated nodes.
> The URIs are original CM108 units.
> 
> I did report this issue some time ago but nobody has any ideas as to 
> whats going on. This time I knbow its got to be something in software on 
> the first node.
> Sorry for the long post but this has been nagging me for some time and 
> now its getting to the point that I have to reboot the box before nets 
> to make sure its working and even then there is no guarantee it will 
> stay connected.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jon VA3RQ
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
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From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Sun Sep 19 13:47:39 2010
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:47:39 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W27C486F595002674B334F8B17D0@phx.gbl>
References: <4C9606F6.7040303@cogeco.ca>
	<BAY119-W27C486F595002674B334F8B17D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C96147B.3080900@cogeco.ca>

  Hi Jim, Yes that is correct. Stopping and starting asterisk does not 
reconnect the URI.
Although Centos reports its still connected.

Here is the query for the usb devices in the failed state:

[root at AST_2379_OHR ~]# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[root at AST_2379_OHR ~]#



Do you think it might be a centos thing?

When it does fail, Asterisk and/ or App_Rpt doesn't seem to complain.

Tried setting the debug to 7 but never got any info.

Jon

On 9/19/2010 9:07 AM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
> are you saying that merely stopping and starting Asterisk does not fix
> the problem. You actually HAVE to reboot to get it going again??
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
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From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Sun Sep 19 14:33:43 2010
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:33:43 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
In-Reply-To: <001801cb5803$7f246970$7d6d3c50$@com>
References: <4C9606F6.7040303@cogeco.ca> <001801cb5803$7f246970$7d6d3c50$@com>
Message-ID: <4C961F47.1020805@cogeco.ca>

  The URI appears to be off with no lights on when this happens.

On 9/19/2010 10:03 AM, Ken wrote:
> This sounds like a case where the BIOS (or CENTOS?) decides to shut off the
> USB port for power management reasons after seeing no data for an extended
> period of time ... does the green light just stop blinking or go out
> altogether?  Maybe you could program the links to send some silence or
> something every 5 minutes and see if that keeps it alive... as an
> experiment.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-
>> bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of REDBUTTON_CTRL
>> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:50 AM
>> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
>>
>>    Hi All, I have been having this problem for quire some time.
>> I have a server box that has 2 nodes on it with URIs.
>> The first node is 2379 (USB0) and the second is 2416 (USB1).
>> The problem is the first node seems to stop talking to the URI
>> randomly.
>> The computer says its still connected to the URI but the URI wont key
>> the radio nor any RX audio comes through when this happens.
>> Asterisk reports the 2 nodes connected internally when its in this
>> faild
>> mode and I can get audio from the second node 2416 if I am connected to
>> 2379 with an other node but no audio is transmitted out on 2379.
>>
>> The 2 nodes are simplex nodes. These 2 nodes create a link bridge to
>> connect 2 repeaters together.
>> I normally have a start up macro to connect the 2 nodes and its a perm
>> link.
>> When the first node stops talking to the URI the kink goes down between
>> the 2 repeaters.
>>
>> We tried swapping the 2 URIs to see if the problem follows the URI but
>> no it always happens on the first node 2379.
>>
>> The only way I know how to get it going again is to remotely reboot the
>> box. Nothing else will get the node working again.
>>
>> The original box (p4 3 gig IBM) was set up the same way and the same
>> thing was happening once every 2 to 3 weeks.
>> Since then that original box died- ps failure so I rebuilt the box in
>> July on an other machine (p4 3gig HP).
>> Now we get the same failure but much more often.  Now it happens on the
>> average once aver 2 days and some times within 8 hours of a re boot!
>>
>> When I rebuilt the node I used the latest Acid cd at the time and re
>> did
>> all the conf files with the latest configs so no copying from the
>> original backup files. So this is 2 different computers with 2
>> different
>> builds with the same problem.
>>
>> Here's the node info :
>>
>> app Rpt  version 0.255
>> These are migrated nodes.
>> The URIs are original CM108 units.
>>
>> I did report this issue some time ago but nobody has any ideas as to
>> whats going on. This time I knbow its got to be something in software
>> on
>> the first node.
>> Sorry for the long post but this has been nagging me for some time and
>> now its getting to the point that I have to reboot the box before nets
>> to make sure its working and even then there is no guarantee it will
>> stay connected.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jon VA3RQ
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>


From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Sun Sep 19 15:00:28 2010
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:00:28 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
Message-ID: <4C96258C.8010708@cogeco.ca>

  Further info:
  The affected node 2379's URI is off but the other URI on the other 
node 2416 was still on and flashing.
If the Bios and/or Centos is shutting off the USB port then why doesn't 
it shut off the other node too?

I have other boxes with single nodes that this never happens. I have 
built 2 other boxes with 3 nodes and 4 nodes, all of which are using 
URIs and this doesn't seem to happen.

I thought I went through all the bios settings to make sure nothing goes 
to sleep.

This has happened on 2 different pcs with a dual node config.

Jon

   The URI appears to be off with no lights on when this happens.

On 9/19/2010 10:03 AM, Ken wrote:

>  This sounds like a case where the BIOS (or CENTOS?) decides to shut off the
>  USB port for power management reasons after seeing no data for an extended
>  period of time ... does the green light just stop blinking or go out
>  altogether?  Maybe you could program the links to send some silence or
>  something every 5 minutes and see if that keeps it alive... as an
>  experiment.
>
>  Ken




From telesistant at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 19 15:01:43 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:01:43 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
In-Reply-To: <4C961F47.1020805@cogeco.ca>
References: <4C9606F6.7040303@cogeco.ca>
	<001801cb5803$7f246970$7d6d3c50$@com>,<4C961F47.1020805@cogeco.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W1727FD7FCEA30C50BDD915B17D0@phx.gbl>


Ahhh... well.... ahhhh...

Since it doesnt seems to be a problem with Asterisk, it would unfortunately point
to a problem with the USB hardware on your PC, or some sort of weird driver
incompatibility with Linux. I know it has done this on 2 machines. Over the years
I have had MANY machines that have exhibited similar and even stranger problems
with their USB.

USB just isnt reliable. We know it. Thats why we dont and never have recommended
the use of USB devices on a mountain top or other hard to get to locations. 

USB, it isnt just for breakfast anymore......   :-)

JIM WB6NIL


> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:33:43 -0400
> From: jrorke at cogeco.ca
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
> 
>   The URI appears to be off with no lights on when this happens.
> 
> On 9/19/2010 10:03 AM, Ken wrote:
> > This sounds like a case where the BIOS (or CENTOS?) decides to shut off the
> > USB port for power management reasons after seeing no data for an extended
> > period of time ... does the green light just stop blinking or go out
> > altogether?  Maybe you could program the links to send some silence or
> > something every 5 minutes and see if that keeps it alive... as an
> > experiment.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-
> >> bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of REDBUTTON_CTRL
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:50 AM
> >> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
> >>
> >>    Hi All, I have been having this problem for quire some time.
> >> I have a server box that has 2 nodes on it with URIs.
> >> The first node is 2379 (USB0) and the second is 2416 (USB1).
> >> The problem is the first node seems to stop talking to the URI
> >> randomly.
> >> The computer says its still connected to the URI but the URI wont key
> >> the radio nor any RX audio comes through when this happens.
> >> Asterisk reports the 2 nodes connected internally when its in this
> >> faild
> >> mode and I can get audio from the second node 2416 if I am connected to
> >> 2379 with an other node but no audio is transmitted out on 2379.
> >>
> >> The 2 nodes are simplex nodes. These 2 nodes create a link bridge to
> >> connect 2 repeaters together.
> >> I normally have a start up macro to connect the 2 nodes and its a perm
> >> link.
> >> When the first node stops talking to the URI the kink goes down between
> >> the 2 repeaters.
> >>
> >> We tried swapping the 2 URIs to see if the problem follows the URI but
> >> no it always happens on the first node 2379.
> >>
> >> The only way I know how to get it going again is to remotely reboot the
> >> box. Nothing else will get the node working again.
> >>
> >> The original box (p4 3 gig IBM) was set up the same way and the same
> >> thing was happening once every 2 to 3 weeks.
> >> Since then that original box died- ps failure so I rebuilt the box in
> >> July on an other machine (p4 3gig HP).
> >> Now we get the same failure but much more often.  Now it happens on the
> >> average once aver 2 days and some times within 8 hours of a re boot!
> >>
> >> When I rebuilt the node I used the latest Acid cd at the time and re
> >> did
> >> all the conf files with the latest configs so no copying from the
> >> original backup files. So this is 2 different computers with 2
> >> different
> >> builds with the same problem.
> >>
> >> Here's the node info :
> >>
> >> app Rpt  version 0.255
> >> These are migrated nodes.
> >> The URIs are original CM108 units.
> >>
> >> I did report this issue some time ago but nobody has any ideas as to
> >> whats going on. This time I knbow its got to be something in software
> >> on
> >> the first node.
> >> Sorry for the long post but this has been nagging me for some time and
> >> now its getting to the point that I have to reboot the box before nets
> >> to make sure its working and even then there is no guarantee it will
> >> stay connected.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jon VA3RQ
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
 		 	   		  
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From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Sun Sep 19 15:11:07 2010
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:11:07 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W1727FD7FCEA30C50BDD915B17D0@phx.gbl>
References: <4C9606F6.7040303@cogeco.ca> <001801cb5803$7f246970$7d6d3c50$@com>,
	<4C961F47.1020805@cogeco.ca>
	<BAY119-W1727FD7FCEA30C50BDD915B17D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C96280B.10104@cogeco.ca>

  Hmm, well its not at a mountain top but the annoy-o-factor is there.
perhaps I should install a third private node and plug in a virgin fob. :-)
Jon

On 9/19/2010 11:01 AM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
> Ahhh... well.... ahhhh...
>
> Since it doesnt seems to be a problem with Asterisk, it would 
> unfortunately point
> to a problem with the USB hardware on your PC, or some sort of weird 
> driver
> incompatibility with Linux. I know it has done this on 2 machines. 
> Over the years
> I have had MANY machines that have exhibited similar and even stranger 
> problems
> with their USB.
>
> USB just isnt reliable. We know it. Thats why we dont and never have 
> recommended
> the use of USB devices on a mountain top or other hard to get to 
> locations.
>
> USB, it isnt just for breakfast anymore......   :-)
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:33:43 -0400
> > From: jrorke at cogeco.ca
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
> >
> > The URI appears to be off with no lights on when this happens.
> >
> > On 9/19/2010 10:03 AM, Ken wrote:
> > > This sounds like a case where the BIOS (or CENTOS?) decides to 
> shut off the
> > > USB port for power management reasons after seeing no data for an 
> extended
> > > period of time ... does the green light just stop blinking or go out
> > > altogether? Maybe you could program the links to send some silence or
> > > something every 5 minutes and see if that keeps it alive... as an
> > > experiment.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-
> > >> bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of REDBUTTON_CTRL
> > >> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:50 AM
> > >> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] node stops talking to URI
> > >>
> > >> Hi All, I have been having this problem for quire some time.
> > >> I have a server box that has 2 nodes on it with URIs.
> > >> The first node is 2379 (USB0) and the second is 2416 (USB1).
> > >> The problem is the first node seems to stop talking to the URI
> > >> randomly.
> > >> The computer says its still connected to the URI but the URI wont key
> > >> the radio nor any RX audio comes through when this happens.
> > >> Asterisk reports the 2 nodes connected internally when its in this
> > >> faild
> > >> mode and I can get audio from the second node 2416 if I am 
> connected to
> > >> 2379 with an other node but no audio is transmitted out on 2379.
> > >>
> > >> The 2 nodes are simplex nodes. These 2 nodes create a link bridge to
> > >> connect 2 repeaters together.
> > >> I normally have a start up macro to connect the 2 nodes and its a 
> perm
> > >> link.
> > >> When the first node stops talking to the URI the kink goes down 
> between
> > >> the 2 repeaters.
> > >>
> > >> We tried swapping the 2 URIs to see if the problem follows the 
> URI but
> > >> no it always happens on the first node 2379.
> > >>
> > >> The only way I know how to get it going again is to remotely 
> reboot the
> > >> box. Nothing else will get the node working again.
> > >>
> > >> The original box (p4 3 gig IBM) was set up the same way and the same
> > >> thing was happening once every 2 to 3 weeks.
> > >> Since then that original box died- ps failure so I rebuilt the box in
> > >> July on an other machine (p4 3gig HP).
> > >> Now we get the same failure but much more often. Now it happens 
> on the
> > >> average once aver 2 days and some times within 8 hours of a re boot!
> > >>
> > >> When I rebuilt the node I used the latest Acid cd at the time and re
> > >> did
> > >> all the conf files with the latest configs so no copying from the
> > >> original backup files. So this is 2 different computers with 2
> > >> different
> > >> builds with the same problem.
> > >>
> > >> Here's the node info :
> > >>
> > >> app Rpt version 0.255
> > >> These are migrated nodes.
> > >> The URIs are original CM108 units.
> > >>
> > >> I did report this issue some time ago but nobody has any ideas as to
> > >> whats going on. This time I knbow its got to be something in software
> > >> on
> > >> the first node.
> > >> Sorry for the long post but this has been nagging me for some 
> time and
> > >> now its getting to the point that I have to reboot the box before 
> nets
> > >> to make sure its working and even then there is no guarantee it will
> > >> stay connected.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jon VA3RQ
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> > >> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > >> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 19 15:26:48 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:26:48 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] latitude and longitude
Message-ID: <BAY119-W1949B7E8543550E3024767B17D0@phx.gbl>


I think I have finally found the culprits that have been causing very strange problems with
the Server latitude and longitude being reversed in some cases.

Most of the entries were actually reversed in the database. I ran an automated script
which fixed the obvious ones (like ones with latitude out of range), but there are some
stations on the East Coast of the USA that are still reversed. Please check your lat/long
and if its backwards or wrong, please fix it.

Thanks

JIM WB6NIL


 		 	   		  
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From ki6psp at gmail.com  Mon Sep 20 14:37:16 2010
From: ki6psp at gmail.com (KI6PSP (Ed))
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:37:16 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Echolink Database Downloading Partial Updates,
 Can't connect for over 30 Minutes.
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpHucehtdz1cftAH5+EoOw00jw9HqFQUXQGdFE@mail.gmail.com>

I started testing Echolink capability this morning, it wasn't for about two
weeks and I don't know why. It would keep timing out when trying to connect
to my node, but outbound connections from the node were working. Now its
working.....

Ok, Echolink via iPod with proxy settings. I sat here for over 30 minutes
trying to connect and kept getting "UN-AUTHORIZED". I know the repeater
downloads the database every 5 minutes but it looks like only partials. Here
is my output:
[Sep 20 07:01:53] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:02:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server2.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:02:50] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:02:57] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 224 records
[Sep 20 07:03:12] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:06:58] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:07:04] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 189 records
[Sep 20 07:07:09] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:08:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server3.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:08:35] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:11:04] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:11:17] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 402 records
[Sep 20 07:11:25] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:14:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:15:17] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:15:26] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:15:32] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 426 records
[Sep 20 07:16:10] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:19:32] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:19:54] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 681 records
[Sep 20 07:20:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server2.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:23:03] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:23:54] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:23:58] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:23:59] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 156 records
[Sep 20 07:24:38] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:26:24] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server3.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:26:28] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:27:59] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:28:09] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:28:09] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 305 records
[Sep 20 07:29:17] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP

My Question is, Is there any way to change how often it performs a Full
download instead of a partial. I understand the security of waiting for a
call to be in the databases, but this timing is ridiculous.

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From kb2ear at kb2ear.net  Mon Sep 20 14:54:04 2010
From: kb2ear at kb2ear.net (Scott Weis)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:54:04 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Echolink Database Downloading Partial Updates,
	Can't connect for over 30 Minutes.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimpHucehtdz1cftAH5+EoOw00jw9HqFQUXQGdFE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimpHucehtdz1cftAH5+EoOw00jw9HqFQUXQGdFE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005701cb58d3$ab0a6500$011f2f00$@kb2ear.net>

Should we be relying on the data that is collected by the 5 minute polls for
authentication? By doing the authentication on stale data  as is done by
app_rpt/chan_echolink we are seeing that every iPhone connect is using a
node number and callsign that is **NOT** that of the station connecting as
the entry in the local DB is stale. I suspect that the windows version of
echolink does a query when a station connects as it rarely has the wrong
callsign for proxy users and does not take 5-10 minutes to allow connects
from non-proxy clients.

 

I suspect that the users below is using a private proxy (no sure if they can
configure that) and as such will never be able to connect at it looks like
the iPhone app only logs in to the proxy when the user hits the connect
button.

 

73 de Scott KB2EAR

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of KI6PSP (Ed)
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:37 AM
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Echolink Database Downloading Partial Updates,
Can't connect for over 30 Minutes.

 

I started testing Echolink capability this morning, it wasn't for about two
weeks and I don't know why. It would keep timing out when trying to connect
to my node, but outbound connections from the node were working. Now its
working.....

 

Ok, Echolink via iPod with proxy settings. I sat here for over 30 minutes
trying to connect and kept getting "UN-AUTHORIZED". I know the repeater
downloads the database every 5 minutes but it looks like only partials. Here
is my output:


[Sep 20 07:01:53] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:02:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server2.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:02:50] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:02:57] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 224 records
[Sep 20 07:03:12] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:06:58] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:07:04] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 189 records
[Sep 20 07:07:09] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:08:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server3.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:08:35] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:11:04] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:11:17] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 402 records
[Sep 20 07:11:25] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:14:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:15:17] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:15:26] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:15:32] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 426 records
[Sep 20 07:16:10] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:19:32] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:19:54] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 681 records
[Sep 20 07:20:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server2.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:23:03] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:23:54] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:23:58] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:23:59] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 156 records
[Sep 20 07:24:38] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:26:24] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server3.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:26:28] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:27:59] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK
from Echolink server server1.echolink.org
[Sep 20 07:28:09] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP
[Sep 20 07:28:09] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 305 records
[Sep 20 07:29:17] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find
DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP

 

My Question is, Is there any way to change how often it performs a Full
download instead of a partial. I understand the security of waiting for a
call to be in the databases, but this timing is ridiculous. 


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From cemergen at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 09:19:40 2010
From: cemergen at gmail.com (Cem ERGEN)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:40 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
Message-ID: <AANLkTinvuNoDbj_d_Rra=oP61BT5H4cpanvYVJs=97PE@mail.gmail.com>

hello everybody,

i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 uri is
working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this?
i've found a code in the linux server

file name: chan_usbradio.c

in that file :


#define MAX_URIS            32

when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 to 64
or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant that,
please help me.. thanks have a nice days

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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 21 17:43:49 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:43:49 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinvuNoDbj_d_Rra=oP61BT5H4cpanvYVJs=97PE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinvuNoDbj_d_Rra=oP61BT5H4cpanvYVJs=97PE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W214389E7844B0568F189A4B17F0@phx.gbl>


Okay... I want to see a picture of this... Yes, All 32 of those URI's all connected up to your 1 computer... 

this should be interesting...

JIM WB6NIL


Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:40 +0000
From: cemergen at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI

hello everybody,
i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 uri is working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this?i've found a code in the linux server 

file name: chan_usbradio.c
in that file :


#define MAX_URIS            32      

when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 to 64 or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant that,please help me.. thanks have a nice days

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From specialq.que at ntlworld.com  Tue Sep 21 17:53:48 2010
From: specialq.que at ntlworld.com (Doug Hutchison)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:53:48 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
Message-ID: <4C98F12C.2040104@ntlworld.com>

? Me too?

What requires 32 URI's 32x60$ = a lot?

?


On 21/09/2010 18:43:49, Jim Duuuude (telesistant at hotmail.com) wrote:
 > Okay... I want to see a picture of this... Yes, All 32 of those URI's 
all connected up to your 1 computer...
 >
 > this should be interesting...
 >
 > JIM WB6NIL
 >
 >
 > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:40 +0000
 > From: cemergen at gmail.com
 > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
 > Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
 >
 > hello everybody,
 > i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 
uri is working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this?i've 
found a code in the linux server
 >
 > file name: chan_usbradio.c
 > in that file :
 >
 >
 >#define MAX_URIS 32
 >
 > when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 
to 64 or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant 
that,please help me.. thanks have a nice days
 >
 > --
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > _______________________________________________
 > App_rpt-users mailing list
 > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
 > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users



From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Tue Sep 21 16:58:44 2010
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:58:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-W214389E7844B0568F189A4B17F0@phx.gbl>
References: <AANLkTinvuNoDbj_d_Rra=oP61BT5H4cpanvYVJs=97PE@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY119-W214389E7844B0568F189A4B17F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <60200.98.250.154.100.1285088324.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>

> Okay... I want to see a picture of this...

I'll even fan that on facebook!
:-)







>
> Okay... I want to see a picture of this... Yes, All 32 of those URI's all
> connected up to your 1 computer...
>
> this should be interesting...
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
>
> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:40 +0000
> From: cemergen at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
>
> hello everybody,
> i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 uri
> is working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this?i've found
> a code in the linux server
>
> file name: chan_usbradio.c
> in that file :
>
>
> #define MAX_URIS            32
>
> when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 to 64
> or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant that,please help
> me.. thanks have a nice days
>
> --
>
>
>
>
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> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
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Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
"Always Connected"

(734)527-7150

Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811


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From bbrown at byrg.net  Tue Sep 21 18:07:13 2010
From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bob_Brown_=2D_W=D8NQX?=)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:07:13 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
In-Reply-To: <60200.98.250.154.100.1285088324.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
References: <AANLkTinvuNoDbj_d_Rra=oP61BT5H4cpanvYVJs=97PE@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY119-W214389E7844B0568F189A4B17F0@phx.gbl>
	<60200.98.250.154.100.1285088324.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikZctVkf1cypif3NNiPSYFk01V0Xi21VBug+WvV@mail.gmail.com>

me too!

want to see a picture of this!


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Thanks in Advance

?? Bob Brown, W?NQX

?? Kansas City Metro Area

?? http://sm0kenet.net

?? http://byrg.net

?? http://kcdstar.byrg.net

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Its not how many watts you have,
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

--



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:58, Steve Gladden
<steve at michiganbroadband.com> wrote:
>> Okay... I want to see a picture of this...
>
> I'll even fan that on facebook!
> :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Okay... I want to see a picture of this... Yes, All 32 of those URI's all
>> connected up to your 1 computer...
>>
>> this should be interesting...
>>
>> JIM WB6NIL
>>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:40 +0000
>> From: cemergen at gmail.com
>> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
>>
>> hello everybody,
>> i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 uri
>> is working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this?i've found
>> a code in the linux server
>>
>> file name: chan_usbradio.c
>> in that file :
>>
>>
>> #define MAX_URIS ? ? ? ? ? ?32
>>
>> when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 to 64
>> or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant that,please help
>> me.. thanks have a nice days
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> --
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>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
>> believed to be clean.
>>
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>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
>
>
> Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> "Always Connected"
>
> (734)527-7150
>
> Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
>
>
> --
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From cemergen at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 10:51:39 2010
From: cemergen at gmail.com (Cem ERGEN)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:51:39 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikZctVkf1cypif3NNiPSYFk01V0Xi21VBug+WvV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinvuNoDbj_d_Rra=oP61BT5H4cpanvYVJs=97PE@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY119-W214389E7844B0568F189A4B17F0@phx.gbl>
	<60200.98.250.154.100.1285088324.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>
	<AANLkTikZctVkf1cypif3NNiPSYFk01V0Xi21VBug+WvV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim7-a3kA7=0NK23qHPkPTTOvMYX0R1yqFedvr5f@mail.gmail.com>

i could send pics later but, now i have to fix that.
the file /dev/dsp7 is the last one...
/dev/dsp8 and 9 and 10... no more
but i have 32 usb sound device (uri)
could you help me?

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Bob Brown - W?NQX <bbrown at byrg.net> wrote:

> me too!
>
> want to see a picture of this!
>
>
> --
> Thanks in Advance
>
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
>
>    Kansas City Metro Area
>
>    http://sm0kenet.net
>
>    http://byrg.net
>
>    http://kcdstar.byrg.net
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
> Its not how many watts you have,
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
>
> --
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:58, Steve Gladden
> <steve at michiganbroadband.com> wrote:
> >> Okay... I want to see a picture of this...
> >
> > I'll even fan that on facebook!
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Okay... I want to see a picture of this... Yes, All 32 of those URI's
> all
> >> connected up to your 1 computer...
> >>
> >> this should be interesting...
> >>
> >> JIM WB6NIL
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:40 +0000
> >> From: cemergen at gmail.com
> >> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
> >>
> >> hello everybody,
> >> i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 uri
> >> is working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this?i've
> found
> >> a code in the linux server
> >>
> >> file name: chan_usbradio.c
> >> in that file :
> >>
> >>
> >> #define MAX_URIS            32
> >>
> >> when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 to
> 64
> >> or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant that,please
> help
> >> me.. thanks have a nice days
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >>
> >
> >
> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.
> > "Always Connected"
> >
> > (734)527-7150
> >
> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811
> >
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 22 13:04:54 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:04:54 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7-a3kA7=0NK23qHPkPTTOvMYX0R1yqFedvr5f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinvuNoDbj_d_Rra=oP61BT5H4cpanvYVJs=97PE@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY119-W214389E7844B0568F189A4B17F0@phx.gbl>,
	<60200.98.250.154.100.1285088324.squirrel@iridium7.michiganbroadband.com>,
	<AANLkTikZctVkf1cypif3NNiPSYFk01V0Xi21VBug+WvV@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTim7-a3kA7=0NK23qHPkPTTOvMYX0R1yqFedvr5f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W413922733E942EB9C3BF8EB1600@phx.gbl>


thats an issue with the alsa/oss-emulation driver... it has nothing to do with us...

JIM

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:51:39 +0000
From: cemergen at gmail.com
To: bbrown at byrg.net
CC: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI

i could send pics later but, now i have to fix that.the file /dev/dsp7 is the last one... /dev/dsp8 and 9 and 10... no morebut i have 32 usb sound device (uri)could you help me?


On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Bob Brown - W?NQX <bbrown at byrg.net> wrote:

me too!



want to see a picture of this!





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   http://sm0kenet.net



   http://byrg.net



   http://kcdstar.byrg.net



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Its not how many watts you have,

its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK



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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:58, Steve Gladden

<steve at michiganbroadband.com> wrote:

>> Okay... I want to see a picture of this...

>

> I'll even fan that on facebook!

> :-)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>> Okay... I want to see a picture of this... Yes, All 32 of those URI's all

>> connected up to your 1 computer...

>>

>> this should be interesting...

>>

>> JIM WB6NIL

>>

>>

>> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:40 +0000

>> From: cemergen at gmail.com

>> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com

>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI

>>

>> hello everybody,

>> i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 uri

>> is working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this?i've found

>> a code in the linux server

>>

>> file name: chan_usbradio.c

>> in that file :

>>

>>

>> #define MAX_URIS            32

>>

>> when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 to 64

>> or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant that,please help

>> me.. thanks have a nice days

>>

>> --

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> _______________________________________________

>> App_rpt-users mailing list

>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com

>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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>> This message has been scanned for viruses and

>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is

>> believed to be clean.

>>

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>> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com

>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

>>

>

>

> Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.

> "Always Connected"

>

> (734)527-7150

>

> Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811

>

>

> --

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> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is

> believed to be clean.

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From holldrl at gt.rr.com  Sun Sep 26 00:32:18 2010
From: holldrl at gt.rr.com (Darril Holland)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:32:18 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Final Acid installation questions
Message-ID: <34CE27B600DE40E09712EB7F56738B03@darril>

After installing Acid(centos) I get to change unix password, did that.Then asked if info was set up on Allstarlink, server, node# ect. answered yes  Asked if I wanted automatic setup answered yes. Asked for node# , node password, call ect. It then asked for Allstar portal user id What do I need  here?  server name ?Typed in what I thought, which was probably wrong. 2nd question; got to test login, just typed in garbage to see whats next, asked for password. what do I need for these 2 Any help would be welcomed. Darril/WD5GJP
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Sun Sep 26 00:48:24 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:48:24 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Final Acid installation questions
References: <34CE27B600DE40E09712EB7F56738B03@darril>
Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB2758@exchange2003.repeater.net>

You use what your portal username and password is that you use to login to http://allstarlink.org


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To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Final Acid installation questions
 
After installing Acid(centos) I get to change unix password, did that.Then asked if info was set up on Allstarlink, server, node# ect. answered yes  Asked if I wanted automatic setup answered yes. Asked for node# , node password, call ect. It then asked for Allstar portal user id What do I need  here?  server name ?Typed in what I thought, which was probably wrong. 2nd question; got to test login, just typed in garbage to see whats next, asked for password. what do I need for these 2 Any help would be welcomed. Darril/WD5GJP
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From keith at handscombe.co.uk  Sun Sep 26 17:13:34 2010
From: keith at handscombe.co.uk (keith handscombe)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:13:34 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] VX2000 Yaesu Radio
Message-ID: <001d01cb5d9e$2733c030$759b4090$@co.uk>

 

Good afternoon all,

 

I run the MB7IIP node in the UK and at present have an Alinco in 9600 Baud
running my node. The USB mod on the key fob works great and I would like to
add a 70cm link. The radio is a Yaesu VX 2000 can someone give us a hand
with the connectivity of this radio and the changes to my USB config please.

I have included the wire code I have and the wire code of the VX2000. I have
swapped the TX RX over as this seemed to me as the only change needed but
still nothing from DTMF. I can go into asterisk and force a ptt as a console
command and the radio will then PTT help now needed as I have tried most of
last night and today. Many thanks for any help

 

Details are:

 

The Alinco is wired as follows and  I have flat audio set on key fob plus
key fob is sorting CTCSS

 

:

 

The Yaesu VX2000 is as follows as this too has a 9 pin connector on the rear
of the radio. The radio is set in DFLT mode at the moment.

 


Pin

Signal

Default and Alternate Configurations, Signal Levels, Notes


1

Squelch
Output 

High level (5VDC / 47 kOhms) when carrier received. This does NOT care about
any kind of coded squelch, just RF signal.


2

Receive
Audio
Output

DFLT - De-emphasized Audio Output: 100mV, 10 kOhm. The output level is fixed
at the factory by having no jumper at JP1003 and soldering the jumper at
JP1002 on the Main unit.

ALT - Flat (not De-Emphasized) Unmuted Audio Output: 250mV, 10 kOhm.
Unsolder the jumper at JP1002 and solder a jumper at JP1003 on the Main
unit.


3

Transmit
Audio
Input

DFLT - Pre-Emphasized / IDC / Splatter Filtered Audio Input: 2.5mV, 600 Ohm.
This input is fixed at the factory by attaching capacitor C1254 across
JP1005 and soldering a jumper at JP1004 on the Main unit.

ALT - Flat (not Pre-Emphasized) Audio Input: 650mV, 10 kOhm. Remove the
jumper at JP1004 and solder a jumper across JP1005 on the Main unit.


4

Not Used

 


5

Ground

Signal ground.


6

Auxiliary
Output

DFLT - Not Used. No jumper across JP1001 on the Main unit.

ALT - Accessory Output: Open Connector Output. 'A' lamp On: Low, 'A' lamp
Off: Open. Maximum voltage: 13.8V. Maximum sink current: 5mA. Solder a
jumper at JP1001 on the MAIN Unit.


7

PTT Input

Ground for TX, float for RX.


8

+5VDC

Switched and regulated 5VDC at 50mA.


9

Not Used

 

 

 

I hope someone can assist in the wire code changes from the Alinco to the
VX2000. If whomever can help explains that the VX2000 would work better if I
change to the ALT method I am happy to make the changes.

 

Once again many thanks

 

 

K Handscombe

 

www.handscombe.co.uk

 

 

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From bogus at terra.es  Mon Sep 27 17:51:08 2010
From: bogus at terra.es (Alex Casanova)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:51:08 +0200
Subject: [App_rpt-users] How to add an IAX2 extension to call via radio
Message-ID: <4CA0D98C.3040006@terra.es>

  Hi

My name is Alex Casanova (EA5HJX) this is the my first time with module. 
I am working in a project to integrate radio with VoIP (Asterisk). The 
project is HSMMN (High Speed Multimedia Network) in Spain.

I have a computer with Allstarlink with an URI. Now I would like to 
create an IAX2 or SIP account to call out via radio.

I followed the steps so far are:

in iax.conf

[100]
type = friend
secret = radio
callerid = "IAX Phone <100>
host = dynamic
context = radio-secure
Qualify = yes
autokill = yes
disallow = all
allow = gsm

My guess is that I have to put extensions.conf or rpt.conf to call an 
extension and broadcast through radio.

Thanks for all
Best Regards
Alex Casanova (EA5HJX)

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1) www.bicubik.net/hsmmn


From yokshs at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 29 13:42:39 2010
From: yokshs at sbcglobal.net (Yokshs)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:42:39 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
Message-ID: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>


I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812

I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob" much 
like the cheapo Ebay fobs.

Has anybody had the same problem?

73.

Kyle
K0KN



From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Wed Sep 29 13:57:33 2010
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (Jon Rorke)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:57:33 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
In-Reply-To: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>
Message-ID: <4CA345CD.8060203@cogeco.ca>

  Try plugging into a windows machine to see if it says C-media device.

If its not then they wont work for App_RPT.

I have a few with the blob and they are Jmtech or something like that.

Jon

On 9/29/2010 9:42 AM, Yokshs wrote:
> I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from:
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812
>
> I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob" much
> like the cheapo Ebay fobs.
>
> Has anybody had the same problem?
>
> 73.
>
> Kyle
> K0KN
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>


From n3fe at repeater.net  Wed Sep 29 14:05:21 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>
Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net>

I have been up and running now for about a month.  I have added a
maxtrac radio to use as a remote base.  On my other controllers I would
pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down.  I
have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
app_rpt doing this.

Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs?  What would
need to be done to be able to do something like this if something isn't
already in place for it?

Corey  N3FE


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From ke2n at cs.com  Wed Sep 29 14:06:51 2010
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:06:51 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
In-Reply-To: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>
Message-ID: <002601cb5fdf$90719660$b154c320$@com>

Yes ... it took at >month for me to get mine and even though the package has
CM-108 written right on it, the chip is identified by Linux as JMTek (HY559
chip I think).  I sent an e-mail expressing my disappointment (which was
un-acknowledged by Dealextreme).

I found if you modify the vendor codes in usb_radio.c so that the program
thinks this JMTek is actually a C-Media unit, it will scan the fob and read
audio.  It will not turn the red light on for transmit though ... which is
immaterial anyway, since you cannot get at the wire you need inside the
'blob' to use for PTT.  I think it could be used for my weather radio
application, but the software changes would be a  bit tricky (for me) making
some if/and/or logic more complicated - getting the arrangement of left and
right parenthesis correct eluded on the first try.  

I have one other source on the way now, which would be the preferable
solution (no software mod needed). But I will not be surprised if it turns
out to have the wrong chip.

Ken

Buyer beware, as usual.
www.dinodirect.com/sound-card-adapter-usb-cm108-chipset.html?ddse=CM-108



> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-
> bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Yokshs
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:43 AM
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
> 
> I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from:
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812
> 
> I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob"
> much
> like the cheapo Ebay fobs.
> 
> Has anybody had the same problem?
> 
> 73.
> 
> Kyle
> K0KN
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users



From kd8b at thebades.net  Wed Sep 29 15:38:59 2010
From: kd8b at thebades.net (Doug Bade)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:38:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
In-Reply-To: <002601cb5fdf$90719660$b154c320$@com>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>
	<002601cb5fdf$90719660$b154c320$@com>
Message-ID: <002a01cb5fec$6fef5eb0$4fce1c10$@thebades.net>

JMTek is the vendor for the SS1623 chipset. This chipset works well in
windows and other Linux applications such as pcrepeatercontroller etc.. as a
high quality high scan rate device... It is unfortunate it does not work for
App_rpt at this time. It does seem to be the currently available successor
to the C-Media chip family being found in many sound fobs coming in to the
U.S. at this time.. They do work well in many other amateur radio type
projects going on.... In general they perform as well as C-Media devices...
other than using another driver... the I/O pin may or may not be there that
is used for the PTT, I have not investigated that as I use URI's for App-rpt
systems I am building...

Doug
KD8B 

-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:07 AM
To: 'Yokshs'; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs

Yes ... it took at >month for me to get mine and even though the package has
CM-108 written right on it, the chip is identified by Linux as JMTek (HY559
chip I think).  I sent an e-mail expressing my disappointment (which was
un-acknowledged by Dealextreme).

I found if you modify the vendor codes in usb_radio.c so that the program
thinks this JMTek is actually a C-Media unit, it will scan the fob and read
audio.  It will not turn the red light on for transmit though ... which is
immaterial anyway, since you cannot get at the wire you need inside the
'blob' to use for PTT.  I think it could be used for my weather radio
application, but the software changes would be a  bit tricky (for me) making
some if/and/or logic more complicated - getting the arrangement of left and
right parenthesis correct eluded on the first try.  

I have one other source on the way now, which would be the preferable
solution (no software mod needed). But I will not be surprised if it turns
out to have the wrong chip.

Ken

Buyer beware, as usual.
www.dinodirect.com/sound-card-adapter-usb-cm108-chipset.html?ddse=CM-108



> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users- 
> bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Yokshs
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:43 AM
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
> 
> I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from:
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812
> 
> I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob"
> much
> like the cheapo Ebay fobs.
> 
> Has anybody had the same problem?
> 
> 73.
> 
> Kyle
> K0KN
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 16:05:49 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:05:49 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
In-Reply-To: <002a01cb5fec$6fef5eb0$4fce1c10$@thebades.net>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<002601cb5fdf$90719660$b154c320$@com>,
	<002a01cb5fec$6fef5eb0$4fce1c10$@thebades.net>
Message-ID: <BLU155-w472005A3F545CA4F08D934B1670@phx.gbl>


As I have stated in the past (and got absolutely no significantly helpful response)
I wil be MORE THEN HAPPY to evaluate whatever "the" popular USB chip is 
currently, if SOMEONE would PLEASE determine what that is, and demonstate
to me that it is the case (perhaps by showing me a number of places where they
are available and are clearly documented as to be the desired device. After all,
we cant have people relying on complete luck and/or randomness as far as whether
they are buying an appropriate device).

Personally, I took a look at various random places, such as EBAY that sell a number
of USB audio devices, and for the most part NONE of them even HINT as to the
maker/type of USB device contained in them. 

And then of course, there are the ones that say they are the C-media chip and LIE!!
Poo-ey on them!!!

JIM WB6NIL




> From: kd8b at thebades.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:38:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
> JMTek is the vendor for the SS1623 chipset. This chipset works well in
> windows and other Linux applications such as pcrepeatercontroller etc.. as a
> high quality high scan rate device... It is unfortunate it does not work for
> App_rpt at this time. It does seem to be the currently available successor
> to the C-Media chip family being found in many sound fobs coming in to the
> U.S. at this time.. They do work well in many other amateur radio type
> projects going on.... In general they perform as well as C-Media devices...
> other than using another driver... the I/O pin may or may not be there that
> is used for the PTT, I have not investigated that as I use URI's for App-rpt
> systems I am building...
> 
> Doug
> KD8B 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
> On Behalf Of Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:07 AM
> To: 'Yokshs'; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
> Yes ... it took at >month for me to get mine and even though the package has
> CM-108 written right on it, the chip is identified by Linux as JMTek (HY559
> chip I think).  I sent an e-mail expressing my disappointment (which was
> un-acknowledged by Dealextreme).
> 
> I found if you modify the vendor codes in usb_radio.c so that the program
> thinks this JMTek is actually a C-Media unit, it will scan the fob and read
> audio.  It will not turn the red light on for transmit though ... which is
> immaterial anyway, since you cannot get at the wire you need inside the
> 'blob' to use for PTT.  I think it could be used for my weather radio
> application, but the software changes would be a  bit tricky (for me) making
> some if/and/or logic more complicated - getting the arrangement of left and
> right parenthesis correct eluded on the first try.  
> 
> I have one other source on the way now, which would be the preferable
> solution (no software mod needed). But I will not be surprised if it turns
> out to have the wrong chip.
> 
> Ken
> 
> Buyer beware, as usual.
> www.dinodirect.com/sound-card-adapter-usb-cm108-chipset.html?ddse=CM-108
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users- 
> > bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Yokshs
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:43 AM
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> > 
> > 
> > I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from:
> > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812
> > 
> > I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob"
> > much
> > like the cheapo Ebay fobs.
> > 
> > Has anybody had the same problem?
> > 
> > 73.
> > 
> > Kyle
> > K0KN
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 16:11:55 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:11:55 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
In-Reply-To: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net>
Message-ID: <BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>


That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple of outputs on
it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb
modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with this in
mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.

In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the FIRST person to
even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. This is the main
reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.

Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the only person that
ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> From: n3fe at repeater.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> 
> I have been up and running now for about a month.  I have added a
> maxtrac radio to use as a remote base.  On my other controllers I would
> pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down.  I
> have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> app_rpt doing this.
> 
> Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs?  What would
> need to be done to be able to do something like this if something isn't
> already in place for it?
> 
> Corey  N3FE
> 
> 
> --
> This message was scanned and is believed to be clean.
> 
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From bbrown at byrg.net  Wed Sep 29 16:18:19 2010
From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bob_Brown_=2D_W=D8NQX?=)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:18:19 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net>
	<BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=cY9hFfvExmtRGAN5_a9t4tSY9tqTugJ3Jpi=J@mail.gmail.com>

well with that being said

i would use it too...

i have BCD uses of kenwood commcial radio that i could to that with

also serial control of some as well.

and i have my fair share of maxtracs and radius rigs as well.
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Thanks in Advance

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   Kansas City Metro Area

   http://sm0kenet.net

   http://byrg.net

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its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

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On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:11, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:

> That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple of
> outputs on
> it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or
> chan_simpleusb
> modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with this
> in
> mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.
>
> In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the FIRST
> person to
> even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. This is
> the main
> reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.
>
> Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the only
> person that
> ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
>
> >
> > I have been up and running now for about a month. I have added a
> > maxtrac radio to use as a remote base. On my other controllers I would
> > pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down. I
> > have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> > app_rpt doing this.
> >
> > Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs? What would
> > need to be done to be able to do something like this if something isn't
> > already in place for it?
> >
> > Corey N3FE
> >
> >
> > --
> > This message was scanned and is believed to be clean.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Wed Sep 29 16:18:23 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:18:23 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net>
	<BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB7234@exchange2003.repeater.net>

Thanks Jim!  I know of two others that are VERY interested in this as
well.  They want to use theirs for the same thing as well as latching
the outputs for fans.

 

If this is doable I may just plan to put my RVS8 voter on the app_rpt
machine as well.  That would give me the option of remotely disabling a
receiver.

 

Corey  N3FE

 

From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:12 PM
To: Corey Dean N3FE; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base

 

That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple of
outputs on
it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or
chan_simpleusb
modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with
this in
mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.

In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the
FIRST person to
even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. This
is the main
reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.

Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the
only person that
ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> From: n3fe at repeater.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> 
> I have been up and running now for about a month. I have added a
> maxtrac radio to use as a remote base. On my other controllers I would
> pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down. I
> have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> app_rpt doing this.
> 
> Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs? What
would
> need to be done to be able to do something like this if something
isn't
> already in place for it?
> 
> Corey N3FE
> 
> 
> --
> This message was scanned and is believed to be clean.
> 
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> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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From kt9ac at ameritech.net  Wed Sep 29 16:20:09 2010
From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:20:09 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net>
	<BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4CA36739.9060308@ameritech.net>

Thanks Jim for entertaining and working on the new and undiscovered 
application!

The GM300 series of radios will do channel-steering, by using a BCD 
design of up to five bits to select between 32 modes. I don't recall if 
the Maxtrac's will do that, but its certainly something that could be 
linked back into a macro, etc.

Tony

On 09/29/2010 11:11 AM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
> That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple 
> of outputs on
> it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or 
> chan_simpleusb
> modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with 
> this in
> mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.
>
> In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the 
> FIRST person to
> even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. 
> This is the main
> reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.
>
> Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the 
> only person that
> ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> >
> > I have been up and running now for about a month. I have added a
> > maxtrac radio to use as a remote base. On my other controllers I would
> > pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down. I
> > have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> > app_rpt doing this.
> >
> > Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs? What would
> > need to be done to be able to do something like this if something isn't
> > already in place for it?
> >
> > Corey N3FE
> >
> >
> > --
> > This message was scanned and is believed to be clean.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
>
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From kd8b at thebades.net  Wed Sep 29 16:21:35 2010
From: kd8b at thebades.net (Doug Bade)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:21:35 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-w472005A3F545CA4F08D934B1670@phx.gbl>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<002601cb5fdf$90719660$b154c320$@com>,
	<002a01cb5fec$6fef5eb0$4fce1c10$@thebades.net>
	<BLU155-w472005A3F545CA4F08D934B1670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004001cb5ff2$637e7f70$2a7b7e50$@thebades.net>

Jim;

                I am not even necessarily advocating them for this
application. What I can say is ALL of the USB 7.1 devices I have bought or
physically have had access to have either CM1xx or SSS1623 chipsets.. the
5.1 marked devices. all bets are off.. In all the 7.1 sound devices I bought
that used to be CM1xx, current shipped product have the SSS1623 chips. ( I
have bought at least 8 or 10 lots of various sellers on Ebay).

 

                Obviously this is all  subject to change at the whim of the
Chinese sellers/builders. So it is a moving target. I use the ebay search
of" USB sound 7.1" and then filter by those who do state the chip, but you
are correct.. several that even USED to be CM1xx are shipping SSS1623 in
place of CM1xx. and are still claiming to be CM1xx. 

 

                I have not seen any other chips being used in the 7.1
devices.. but others may weigh in.

 

As I stated.. I personally use URI's. I have no pony in the race here. I do
use them for other things I own about 30 of the little buggers of one
variety or another. Stay AWAY from the little green meanies for anything
where high resolution is an issue.. I find their "fidelity" atrocious and
would not consider them for anything besides a cheap headphone interface for
a PC with no other sound.. 

 

Doug

KD8B

 

 

From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:06 PM
To: kd8b at thebades.net; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs

 

As I have stated in the past (and got absolutely no significantly helpful
response)
I wil be MORE THEN HAPPY to evaluate whatever "the" popular USB chip is 
currently, if SOMEONE would PLEASE determine what that is, and demonstate
to me that it is the case (perhaps by showing me a number of places where
they
are available and are clearly documented as to be the desired device. After
all,
we cant have people relying on complete luck and/or randomness as far as
whether
they are buying an appropriate device).

Personally, I took a look at various random places, such as EBAY that sell a
number
of USB audio devices, and for the most part NONE of them even HINT as to the
maker/type of USB device contained in them. 

And then of course, there are the ones that say they are the C-media chip
and LIE!!
Poo-ey on them!!!

JIM WB6NIL




> From: kd8b at thebades.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:38:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
> JMTek is the vendor for the SS1623 chipset. This chipset works well in
> windows and other Linux applications such as pcrepeatercontroller etc.. as
a
> high quality high scan rate device... It is unfortunate it does not work
for
> App_rpt at this time. It does seem to be the currently available successor
> to the C-Media chip family being found in many sound fobs coming in to the
> U.S. at this time.. They do work well in many other amateur radio type
> projects going on.... In general they perform as well as C-Media
devices...
> other than using another driver... the I/O pin may or may not be there
that
> is used for the PTT, I have not investigated that as I use URI's for
App-rpt
> systems I am building...
> 
> Doug
> KD8B 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
> On Behalf Of Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:07 AM
> To: 'Yokshs'; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
> Yes ... it took at >month for me to get mine and even though the package
has
> CM-108 written right on it, the chip is identified by Linux as JMTek
(HY559
> chip I think). I sent an e-mail expressing my disappointment (which was
> un-acknowledged by Dealextreme).
> 
> I found if you modify the vendor codes in usb_radio.c so that the program
> thinks this JMTek is actually a C-Media unit, it will scan the fob and
read
> audio. It will not turn the red light on for transmit though ... which is
> immaterial anyway, since you cannot get at the wire you need inside the
> 'blob' to use for PTT. I think it could be used for my weather radio
> application, but the software changes would be a bit tricky (for me)
making
> some if/and/or logic more complicated - getting the arrangement of left
and
> right parenthesis correct eluded on the first try. 
> 
> I have one other source on the way now, which would be the preferable
> solution (no software mod needed). But I will not be surprised if it turns
> out to have the wrong chip.
> 
> Ken
> 
> Buyer beware, as usual.
> www.dinodirect.com/sound-card-adapter-usb-cm108-chipset.html?ddse=CM-108
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users- 
> > bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Yokshs
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:43 AM
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> > 
> > 
> > I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from:
> > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812
> > 
> > I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob"
> > much
> > like the cheapo Ebay fobs.
> > 
> > Has anybody had the same problem?
> > 
> > 73.
> > 
> > Kyle
> > K0KN
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Wed Sep 29 16:22:51 2010
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean   N3FE)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:22:51 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net><BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>
	<4CA36739.9060308@ameritech.net>
Message-ID: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB7236@exchange2003.repeater.net>

What I do is tap off the channel up and channel downs on the back of the
head.  Pulsing those to ground will make them change channels.  The
Radius and Maxtrac are pretty much the same radio with different
firmware.  I am not sure if the maxtrac would do the BCD method...

 

Corey  N3FE

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Tony KT9AC
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:20 PM
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base

 

Thanks Jim for entertaining and working on the new and undiscovered
application!

The GM300 series of radios will do channel-steering, by using a BCD
design of up to five bits to select between 32 modes. I don't recall if
the Maxtrac's will do that, but its certainly something that could be
linked back into a macro, etc.

Tony

On 09/29/2010 11:11 AM, Jim Duuuude wrote: 

That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple of
outputs on
it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or
chan_simpleusb
modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with
this in
mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.

In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the
FIRST person to
even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. This
is the main
reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.

Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the
only person that
ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> From: n3fe at repeater.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> 
> I have been up and running now for about a month. I have added a
> maxtrac radio to use as a remote base. On my other controllers I would
> pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down. I
> have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> app_rpt doing this.
> 
> Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs? What
would
> need to be done to be able to do something like this if something
isn't
> already in place for it?
> 
> Corey N3FE
> 
> 
> --
> This message was scanned and is believed to be clean.
> 
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From brian at kastar.org  Wed Sep 29 16:34:51 2010
From: brian at kastar.org (Brian Kassa)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:34:51 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
In-Reply-To: <4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB7234@exchange2003.repeater.net>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net>
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I have been thinking about this for a long but have yet to start building out a system.  My need is for three commercial, frequency agile (pre programmed is fine) radios on a mountain top site connected back civilization via a long haul wifi connection.  I looked at the Maxtrac due to it's cost and 16 pin connector. For commercial service it is wideband only and does not have what I call a good method of changing channel.  If you move up to a GM300 or CDM you get the same 16 or 20 pin connector but 4 of those pins will switch frequency based on logic levels on those 4 pins.  I think the URI has 3 pins available so I could switch to 8 channels on the radio.  There are other radios that have this as well like Icom repeaters and Kenwood tk-X90 (6 low 7 VHF 8 UHF)

I had always assumed that this functionality was available in app_rpt.

Brian Kassa

On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:18 AM, "Corey Dean  N3FE" <n3fe at repeater.net> wrote:

> Thanks Jim!  I know of two others that are VERY interested in this as well.  They want to use theirs for the same thing as well as latching the outputs for fans.
> 
>  
> 
> If this is doable I may just plan to put my RVS8 voter on the app_rpt machine as well.  That would give me the option of remotely disabling a receiver.
> 
>  
> 
> Corey  N3FE
> 
>  
> 
> From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:12 PM
> To: Corey Dean N3FE; app_rpt mailing list
> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> 
>  
> 
> That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple of outputs on
> it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb
> modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with this in
> mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.
> 
> In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the FIRST person to
> even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. This is the main
> reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.
> 
> Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the only person that
> ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> > 
> > I have been up and running now for about a month. I have added a
> > maxtrac radio to use as a remote base. On my other controllers I would
> > pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down. I
> > have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> > app_rpt doing this.
> > 
> > Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs? What would
> > need to be done to be able to do something like this if something isn't
> > already in place for it?
> > 
> > Corey N3FE
> > 
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 29 17:08:13 2010
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:08:13 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
Message-ID: <BLU155-w4904C0ECA46A96F30863C9B1670@phx.gbl>


Good grief! I have no idea that people were even interested in this
functionality. I will definitely work on it.

And by the way, letting me know of a desired valuable enhancement
like this is HARDLY "opening a can of worms". I rely on this type of
input to know what I can do to improve the technology and make it
useful for more people. 

Thanks. 

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From ke2n at cs.com  Wed Sep 29 17:15:03 2010
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:15:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<4FFE167BD0613942920A7F182B8595BB722A@exchange2003.repeater.net>
	<BLU155-w52AEA795C7CE219B99AE52B1670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000f01cb5ff9$db43cc20$91cb6460$@com>

I was interested to see this comment on the output lines. Inputs would be
nice too.

 

I have mentioned in some previous correspondence that it would be GREAT to
have some digital I/O control - for example: the weather radio application.
You could sense when the "alert" or "warning" LED's were on with the inputs
(and change the courtesy tone or tail message, perhaps) and hit the "play"
button with the output, to catch the latest warning message details
(warning messages are not sent out on the internet as mpeg podcasts, for
obvious reasons).  

 

This kind of functionality is standard on commercial repeater controllers
(previously used here RLC and CAT WX200 - RLC Club deluxe had 5 input lines
and 8 output lines, its successor - the DSP404 - has 16 of each and 15
analog channels).

 

The mind boggles at the things you could do if there were some user-useable
I/O and a simple way to read/write these under the control of app_rpt macros
and/or external programs.

 

73

Ken 

KE2n

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:12 PM
To: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base

 

That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple of
outputs on
it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or
chan_simpleusb
modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with this
in
mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.

In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the FIRST
person to
even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. This is
the main
reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.

Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the only
person that
ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> From: n3fe at repeater.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> 
> I have been up and running now for about a month. I have added a
> maxtrac radio to use as a remote base. On my other controllers I would
> pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down. I
> have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> app_rpt doing this.
> 
> Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs? What would
> need to be done to be able to do something like this if something isn't
> already in place for it?
> 
> Corey N3FE
> 
> 
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From david.osborn at manx.net  Wed Sep 29 17:54:09 2010
From: david.osborn at manx.net (David Osborn)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:54:09 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
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I have used a bunch of these:

http://www.lindy-usa.com/usb-2-audio-adapter/42961.html
( http://www.lindy.co.uk/usb-2-audio-adapter/42961.html for the Brits!!)

They *are* CM108, and they are not "Blobs". They are a breeze to modify.

Also - if it's of any interest - they work v-e-r-y well indeed!! 

David Osborn
GD4HOZ


Message: 2
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:21:35 -0400
From: "Doug Bade" <kd8b at thebades.net>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
To: "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
Message-ID: <004001cb5ff2$637e7f70$2a7b7e50$@thebades.net>
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Jim;

                I am not even necessarily advocating them for this
application. What I can say is ALL of the USB 7.1 devices I have bought or
physically have had access to have either CM1xx or SSS1623 chipsets.. the
5.1 marked devices. all bets are off.. In all the 7.1 sound devices I bought
that used to be CM1xx, current shipped product have the SSS1623 chips. ( I
have bought at least 8 or 10 lots of various sellers on Ebay).

 

                Obviously this is all  subject to change at the whim of the
Chinese sellers/builders. So it is a moving target. I use the ebay search
of" USB sound 7.1" and then filter by those who do state the chip, but you
are correct.. several that even USED to be CM1xx are shipping SSS1623 in
place of CM1xx. and are still claiming to be CM1xx. 

 

                I have not seen any other chips being used in the 7.1
devices.. but others may weigh in.

 

As I stated.. I personally use URI's. I have no pony in the race here. I do
use them for other things I own about 30 of the little buggers of one
variety or another. Stay AWAY from the little green meanies for anything
where high resolution is an issue.. I find their "fidelity" atrocious and
would not consider them for anything besides a cheap headphone interface for
a PC with no other sound.. 

 

Doug

KD8B

 

 

From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:06 PM
To: kd8b at thebades.net; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs

 

As I have stated in the past (and got absolutely no significantly helpful
response)
I wil be MORE THEN HAPPY to evaluate whatever "the" popular USB chip is 
currently, if SOMEONE would PLEASE determine what that is, and demonstate
to me that it is the case (perhaps by showing me a number of places where
they
are available and are clearly documented as to be the desired device. After
all,
we cant have people relying on complete luck and/or randomness as far as
whether
they are buying an appropriate device).

Personally, I took a look at various random places, such as EBAY that sell a
number
of USB audio devices, and for the most part NONE of them even HINT as to the
maker/type of USB device contained in them. 

And then of course, there are the ones that say they are the C-media chip
and LIE!!
Poo-ey on them!!!

JIM WB6NIL




> From: kd8b at thebades.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:38:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
> JMTek is the vendor for the SS1623 chipset. This chipset works well in
> windows and other Linux applications such as pcrepeatercontroller etc.. as
a
> high quality high scan rate device... It is unfortunate it does not work
for
> App_rpt at this time. It does seem to be the currently available successor
> to the C-Media chip family being found in many sound fobs coming in to the
> U.S. at this time.. They do work well in many other amateur radio type
> projects going on.... In general they perform as well as C-Media
devices...
> other than using another driver... the I/O pin may or may not be there
that
> is used for the PTT, I have not investigated that as I use URI's for
App-rpt
> systems I am building...
> 
> Doug
> KD8B 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
> On Behalf Of Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:07 AM
> To: 'Yokshs'; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
> Yes ... it took at >month for me to get mine and even though the package
has
> CM-108 written right on it, the chip is identified by Linux as JMTek
(HY559
> chip I think). I sent an e-mail expressing my disappointment (which was
> un-acknowledged by Dealextreme).
> 
> I found if you modify the vendor codes in usb_radio.c so that the program
> thinks this JMTek is actually a C-Media unit, it will scan the fob and
read
> audio. It will not turn the red light on for transmit though ... which is
> immaterial anyway, since you cannot get at the wire you need inside the
> 'blob' to use for PTT. I think it could be used for my weather radio
> application, but the software changes would be a bit tricky (for me)
making
> some if/and/or logic more complicated - getting the arrangement of left
and
> right parenthesis correct eluded on the first try. 
> 
> I have one other source on the way now, which would be the preferable
> solution (no software mod needed). But I will not be surprised if it turns
> out to have the wrong chip.
> 
> Ken
> 
> Buyer beware, as usual.
> www.dinodirect.com/sound-card-adapter-usb-cm108-chipset.html?ddse=CM-108
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users- 
> > bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Yokshs
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:43 AM
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> > 
> > 
> > I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from:
> > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812
> > 
> > I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob"
> > much
> > like the cheapo Ebay fobs.
> > 
> > Has anybody had the same problem?
> > 
> > 73.
> > 
> > Kyle
> > K0KN
> > 
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:22:51 -0400
From: "Corey Dean   N3FE" <n3fe at repeater.net>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
To: "Tony KT9AC" <kt9ac at ameritech.net>,	<app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
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What I do is tap off the channel up and channel downs on the back of the
head.  Pulsing those to ground will make them change channels.  The
Radius and Maxtrac are pretty much the same radio with different
firmware.  I am not sure if the maxtrac would do the BCD method...

 

Corey  N3FE

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Tony KT9AC
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:20 PM
To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base

 

Thanks Jim for entertaining and working on the new and undiscovered
application!

The GM300 series of radios will do channel-steering, by using a BCD
design of up to five bits to select between 32 modes. I don't recall if
the Maxtrac's will do that, but its certainly something that could be
linked back into a macro, etc.

Tony

On 09/29/2010 11:11 AM, Jim Duuuude wrote: 

That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple of
outputs on
it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or
chan_simpleusb
modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with
this in
mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.

In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the
FIRST person to
even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. This
is the main
reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.

Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the
only person that
ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> From: n3fe at repeater.net
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> 
> I have been up and running now for about a month. I have added a
> maxtrac radio to use as a remote base. On my other controllers I would
> pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down. I
> have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> app_rpt doing this.
> 
> Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs? What
would
> need to be done to be able to do something like this if something
isn't
> already in place for it?
> 
> Corey N3FE
> 
> 
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Wed Sep 29 19:00:19 2010
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:00:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
In-Reply-To: <005e01cb5fff$5205eb90$f611c2b0$@osborn@manx.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1009291458420.16122-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


I've used several of these from newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829128002

They're CM108's, not blobs, and fairly easy to modify.

73, David kb4fxc




On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David Osborn wrote:

> I have used a bunch of these:
> 
> http://www.lindy-usa.com/usb-2-audio-adapter/42961.html
> ( http://www.lindy.co.uk/usb-2-audio-adapter/42961.html for the Brits!!)
> 
> They *are* CM108, and they are not "Blobs". They are a breeze to modify.
> 
> Also - if it's of any interest - they work v-e-r-y well indeed!! 
> 
> David Osborn
> GD4HOZ
> 
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:21:35 -0400
> From: "Doug Bade" <kd8b at thebades.net>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> To: "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
> Message-ID: <004001cb5ff2$637e7f70$2a7b7e50$@thebades.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Jim;
> 
>                 I am not even necessarily advocating them for this
> application. What I can say is ALL of the USB 7.1 devices I have bought or
> physically have had access to have either CM1xx or SSS1623 chipsets.. the
> 5.1 marked devices. all bets are off.. In all the 7.1 sound devices I bought
> that used to be CM1xx, current shipped product have the SSS1623 chips. ( I
> have bought at least 8 or 10 lots of various sellers on Ebay).
> 
>  
> 
>                 Obviously this is all  subject to change at the whim of the
> Chinese sellers/builders. So it is a moving target. I use the ebay search
> of" USB sound 7.1" and then filter by those who do state the chip, but you
> are correct.. several that even USED to be CM1xx are shipping SSS1623 in
> place of CM1xx. and are still claiming to be CM1xx. 
> 
>  
> 
>                 I have not seen any other chips being used in the 7.1
> devices.. but others may weigh in.
> 
>  
> 
> As I stated.. I personally use URI's. I have no pony in the race here. I do
> use them for other things I own about 30 of the little buggers of one
> variety or another. Stay AWAY from the little green meanies for anything
> where high resolution is an issue.. I find their "fidelity" atrocious and
> would not consider them for anything besides a cheap headphone interface for
> a PC with no other sound.. 
> 
>  
> 
> Doug
> 
> KD8B
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:06 PM
> To: kd8b at thebades.net; app_rpt mailing list
> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> 
>  
> 
> As I have stated in the past (and got absolutely no significantly helpful
> response)
> I wil be MORE THEN HAPPY to evaluate whatever "the" popular USB chip is 
> currently, if SOMEONE would PLEASE determine what that is, and demonstate
> to me that it is the case (perhaps by showing me a number of places where
> they
> are available and are clearly documented as to be the desired device. After
> all,
> we cant have people relying on complete luck and/or randomness as far as
> whether
> they are buying an appropriate device).
> 
> Personally, I took a look at various random places, such as EBAY that sell a
> number
> of USB audio devices, and for the most part NONE of them even HINT as to the
> maker/type of USB device contained in them. 
> 
> And then of course, there are the ones that say they are the C-media chip
> and LIE!!
> Poo-ey on them!!!
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: kd8b at thebades.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:38:59 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> > 
> > JMTek is the vendor for the SS1623 chipset. This chipset works well in
> > windows and other Linux applications such as pcrepeatercontroller etc.. as
> a
> > high quality high scan rate device... It is unfortunate it does not work
> for
> > App_rpt at this time. It does seem to be the currently available successor
> > to the C-Media chip family being found in many sound fobs coming in to the
> > U.S. at this time.. They do work well in many other amateur radio type
> > projects going on.... In general they perform as well as C-Media
> devices...
> > other than using another driver... the I/O pin may or may not be there
> that
> > is used for the PTT, I have not investigated that as I use URI's for
> App-rpt
> > systems I am building...
> > 
> > Doug
> > KD8B 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com
> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
> > On Behalf Of Ken
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:07 AM
> > To: 'Yokshs'; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> > 
> > Yes ... it took at >month for me to get mine and even though the package
> has
> > CM-108 written right on it, the chip is identified by Linux as JMTek
> (HY559
> > chip I think). I sent an e-mail expressing my disappointment (which was
> > un-acknowledged by Dealextreme).
> > 
> > I found if you modify the vendor codes in usb_radio.c so that the program
> > thinks this JMTek is actually a C-Media unit, it will scan the fob and
> read
> > audio. It will not turn the red light on for transmit though ... which is
> > immaterial anyway, since you cannot get at the wire you need inside the
> > 'blob' to use for PTT. I think it could be used for my weather radio
> > application, but the software changes would be a bit tricky (for me)
> making
> > some if/and/or logic more complicated - getting the arrangement of left
> and
> > right parenthesis correct eluded on the first try. 
> > 
> > I have one other source on the way now, which would be the preferable
> > solution (no software mod needed). But I will not be surprised if it turns
> > out to have the wrong chip.
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > Buyer beware, as usual.
> > www.dinodirect.com/sound-card-adapter-usb-cm108-chipset.html?ddse=CM-108
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users- 
> > > bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Yokshs
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:43 AM
> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from:
> > > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812
> > > 
> > > I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob"
> > > much
> > > like the cheapo Ebay fobs.
> > > 
> > > Has anybody had the same problem?
> > > 
> > > 73.
> > > 
> > > Kyle
> > > K0KN
> > > 
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> From: "Corey Dean   N3FE" <n3fe at repeater.net>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> To: "Tony KT9AC" <kt9ac at ameritech.net>,	<app_rpt-users at qrvc.com>
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> What I do is tap off the channel up and channel downs on the back of the
> head.  Pulsing those to ground will make them change channels.  The
> Radius and Maxtrac are pretty much the same radio with different
> firmware.  I am not sure if the maxtrac would do the BCD method...
> 
>  
> 
> Corey  N3FE
> 
>  
> 
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com
> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Tony KT9AC
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:20 PM
> To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks Jim for entertaining and working on the new and undiscovered
> application!
> 
> The GM300 series of radios will do channel-steering, by using a BCD
> design of up to five bits to select between 32 modes. I don't recall if
> the Maxtrac's will do that, but its certainly something that could be
> linked back into a macro, etc.
> 
> Tony
> 
> On 09/29/2010 11:11 AM, Jim Duuuude wrote: 
> 
> That's an interesting question. Obviously the USB device has a couple of
> outputs on
> it that certainly could be accessed by the chan_usbradio and/or
> chan_simpleusb
> modules and controlled through app_rpt. The URI was also designed with
> this in
> mind, being that we brought all the outputs out to the connector.
> 
> In nearly 10 years that this project has been going on, you are the
> FIRST person to
> even ask this question or show any interest in using these outputs. This
> is the main
> reason why I never bothered to implement this functionality.
> 
> Sure, it can be done. Yeah, Ill work on this. Heck, even if you're the
> only person that
> ever uses it, at least you can benefit from the work involved.
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:05:21 -0400
> > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
> > 
> > I have been up and running now for about a month. I have added a
> > maxtrac radio to use as a remote base. On my other controllers I would
> > pulse a line to ground momentarily to move the channel up or down. I
> > have done some reading and I haven't seen anything that talks about
> > app_rpt doing this.
> > 
> > Does asterisk/app_rpt have the ability to work with outputs? What
> would
> > need to be done to be able to do something like this if something
> isn't
> > already in place for it?
> > 
> > Corey N3FE
> > 
> > 
> > --
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From Mark at hergesheimer.com  Wed Sep 29 20:17:22 2010
From: Mark at hergesheimer.com (Mark Hergesheimer)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:17:22 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base (I/O pins)
Message-ID: <4B998679614B694F84462904F01D3FF01AC84D@INYO.dume.herg.net>

Count us in as well
 
Mark Hergesheimer KD6WLY       N6OCS Group
 
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From yokshs at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 29 20:57:10 2010
From: yokshs at sbcglobal.net (Yokshs)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:57:10 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DealExtreme CM108 fobs
Message-ID: <5D654AD9477340EBBEB4A98DA7ABB957@main>


Hi all,

I opened all 4 of the "so called" CM108 units that I bought from DealExtreme. The packaging, and plastic cases for each unit are identical, but the PCBs are different.

Of 4 units purchased, I ended up with 3 "blob" units, and one CM119 leaded unit.

I'm going to send DealExtreme my thoughts in an email/feedback, but I doubt they'll replace the units, or refund my $$$. 

I was considering using the CM108 fob for audio only anyway, so long as I can use serial or parallel for COS/PTT.

Do the CM119 units work with Allstar?

73.

Kyle
K0KN
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From kd8b at thebades.net  Thu Sep 30 20:13:59 2010
From: kd8b at thebades.net (Doug Bade)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:13:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
References: <2189A6355888497C955C17EC4D4E6D6B@main>,
	<002601cb5fdf$90719660$b154c320$@com>,
	<002a01cb5fec$6fef5eb0$4fce1c10$@thebades.net>
	<BLU155-w472005A3F545CA4F08D934B1670@phx.gbl> 
Message-ID: <000001cb60dc$050b4f50$0f21edf0$@thebades.net>

I just received a batch of cabled version of the CM108 quoted devices form
an Ebay seller, called " Music Fairy ". They are a usb cable and pigtails
for audio in and out, with a sealed plastic case in the middle.. They
identify themselves with C-Media drivers to Windows XP so these devices are
still shipping with CM1xx chips. Probably not greatly suitable for AllStar
etc as you cannot exactly crack them open easily.. but maybe surgical
dis-assembly.. as they are not your typical black sound fob.. However they
would work for other things like GMSK etc for other projects.

 

Doug

KD8B

 

 

From: Doug Bade [mailto:kd8b at thebades.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:22 PM
To: 'app_rpt mailing list'
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs

 

Jim;

                I am not even necessarily advocating them for this
application. What I can say is ALL of the USB 7.1 devices I have bought or
physically have had access to have either CM1xx or SSS1623 chipsets.. the
5.1 marked devices. all bets are off.. In all the 7.1 sound devices I bought
that used to be CM1xx, current shipped product have the SSS1623 chips. ( I
have bought at least 8 or 10 lots of various sellers on Ebay).

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