[App_rpt-users] Question

Thu Sep 9 15:47:20 UTC 2010

sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
here.

yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them with
great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the DMK
device!

but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a great
long time and they work quite well,  last long time.

so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do it on
the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.

we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have a
dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of ham
radio!)

yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+ fobs i
have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would have many
usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some were. so i
gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.

if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have those
skills yet.

would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where i
can study up on this.
as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.
i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
the cm108 device.

yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in fact
several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to test
with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start playing....  to
come up with a solution.
or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us if it
is possible to change the code for these units.

i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes an
interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.

i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this list
these folks in particular:
w9sh
n4irs
wb6nil
kd8b
wa6zft
and many others.

to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....

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Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, WØNQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

Its not how many watts you have,
its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK

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On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:

> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
>
> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source
> of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK
> doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who
> have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much
> money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an
> EchoStink node!
>
> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
>
> md
> **
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "Bob Brown - WØNQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> *Sent*: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> *To*: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
>
> *Subject*: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>
>
> Jim
>
> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
>
> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
>
> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of the
> "clones" out there.
> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog
> souces.
>
> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> they are just cluttering up the desk...
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks in Advance
>
>    Bob Brown, WØNQX
>
>    Kansas City Metro Area
>
>    http://sm0kenet.net
>
>    http://byrg.net
>
>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
> Its not how many watts you have,
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
>
> --
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
>> very much
>> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
>> pre-made USB soundcards
>> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
>> things. The CM-108
>> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found
>> in such devices
>> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
>> mention VERY good
>> value!).
>>
>> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
>> new, different,
>> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much
>> just random??
>> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
>> it would be worthwhile
>> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
>> application.
>>
>> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
>>
>> JIM WB6NIL
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
>> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
>> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
>> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
>> >
>> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
>> > & approved sound devices eventually?
>> >
>> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
>> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
>> find.
>> >
>> > Just curious & thanks.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> > N8LBV
>> >
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>> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
>> sound
>> > > cards.
>> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
>> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
>> > > systems.
>> > >
>> > > JIM WB6NIL
>> > >
>> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
>> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
>> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
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>> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
>> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
>> > > none of
>> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>> > >
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>> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
>> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
>> that
>> > > we
>> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
>> > > quad
>> > > card?
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>> > > Corey N3FE
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