From Sysman at Xceptions.COM  Mon Aug  1 02:38:18 2011
From: Sysman at Xceptions.COM (Paul J. Agamata)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:38:18 -1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Core Dumps on multi-node configuration
Message-ID: <CA5B357A.3D7D%Sysman@Xceptions.COM>

I have 2 URIx on a single computer.  I'm getting core dumps on COR active on either dongles.  The error is as follows:

/usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: line 125:  4661 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) nice -n $PRIORITY ${ASTSBINDIR}/asterisk -f ${CLIARGS} ${ASTARGS} >&/dev/${TTY} < /dev/${TTY}
Asterisk exited on signal 11.

I haven't looked at the core dumps yet but I will shortly.  Hoping someone has encountered similar and can help.

Thanks,
Paul (WH6FM)


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From ramesh at va3uv.com  Mon Aug  1 02:39:09 2011
From: ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami, VA3UV/M)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 02:39:09 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] chan_simpleusb
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References: <001e01cc4fca$ea86c270$6402a8c0@main>
Message-ID: <565261258-1312166351-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1609600748-@b17.c19.bise6.blackberry>

Hi All:

With tremendous help from Jim, we have chan_simpleusb and app_rpt running on an Alix 3d3 single board (embedded) system.

The Alix board runs Centos off a 2GB CF card; has a 500MHz processor, 128MB of RAM, is DC powered, making it an attractive solution for remote sites.

For testing, I just have a single radio connected to it and it is working very well indeed.  Next step is to connect a full duplex repeater and see how that goes.  I am sure that it will be fine if early indication is anything to go by!

Thank you Jim!

Ramesh.

www.va3uv.com

A member of the FREE STAR* team.

Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "K&R Yoksh" <yokshs at sbcglobal.net>
Sender: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:43:41 
To: app_rpt<app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] chan_simpleusb

Just a status update for the list...

I've been running the new simpleusb for about 24 hours.. So far, it seems to 
perform just as chan_usb..

Parallel port cos/ptt is working well, along with parallel GPIO.

I'm noticing less audio "jitter" with simpleusb... Not surprising, as I am 
using only a P3/866 for 2 RF nodes...

73.

Kyle
K0KN


--- Original Message ---

well *certain* people (you *know* who you are :-) :-) were *SUPPOSED* to be
alpha-testing a version that supports that. That was now at least a couple 
of
MONTHS ago!

I dont suppose, Kyle, that *you* would be interested in doing that for me.. 
like NOW..
would you?? :-)

Thanks

JIM


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From george at dyb.com  Mon Aug  1 03:16:32 2011
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:16:32 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services
	(ACID)
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Not running ntpd here, though

George Csahanin
Sent from my iPad

On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often.  I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close.  This way I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently.
> 
> On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve at michiganbroadband.com> wrote:
> > There's a recording of it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of George Csahanin
> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM
> > To: John Heron
> > Cc: app_rpt mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> > 
> > I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed.
> > 
> > Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it.
> > 
> > I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone
> > 
> > I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it.
> > 
> > GeorgeC
> > W2DB
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com>
> > To: "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com>
> > Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl at att.net>; "MichaelCarey" 
> > <michaelcarey at internode.on.net>; "app_rpt mailing list" 
> > <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM
> > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> > 
> > 
> >> Any motorboating issues?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both 
> >>> Limey off a CF and Acid off disk
> >>>
> >>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the 
> >>> others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss 
> >>> decode.
> >>>
> >>> GeorgeC
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl at att.net>; "'Michael Carey'" 
> >>> <michaelcarey at internode.on.net>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" 
> >>> <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does 
> >>>> not. I
> >>>> ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and finally 
> >>>> had
> >>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to 
> >>>> being
> >>>> fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no apparent
> >>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It 
> >>>> boils
> >>>> down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b 
> >>>> and
> >>>> so on...
> >>>>
> >>>> I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody have
> >>>> suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
> >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM
> >>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list'
> >>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael,
> >>>> I still have not figured out what causes this issue.
> >>>> I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that 
> >>>> made
> >>>> it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much
> >>>> exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my 
> >>>> boxes
> >>>> 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400 
> >>>> Mhz)
> >>>> and I don't get this issue.. Go figure.
> >>>> There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and interrupt 
> >>>> is
> >>>> being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down.
> >>>> I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these
> >>>> machines as a solution for now.
> >>>> Sorry I wish I had a better answer.
> >>>> Lu
> >>>> KA4EPS
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
> >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Michael Carey
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM
> >>>> To: app_rpt mailing list
> >>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Everybody,
> >>>>
> >>>> In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm
> >>>> trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have
> >>>> no direct impact on the operation of the node.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink nodes.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going
> >>>> through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6, 
> >>>> etc).
> >>>>
> >>>> On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional
> >>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have
> >>>> another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes it
> >>>> and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that has
> >>>> marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael.
> >>>> VK5ZEA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Mon Aug  1 03:39:40 2011
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:39:40 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services
 (ACID)
In-Reply-To: <4D6CDB47-2294-4B26-B781-E6B869AE37B9@dyb.com>
References: <4E353598.30707@internode.on.net>
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Yep I?ve tried disabling everything possible (everything that takes an interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included.
I?ve never noticed anything as such to make a significant difference?
I?ve reached the conclusion:

1.       USB sucks (as I?ve been told by the pros here) and it?s never going to get any better (on USB).

2.       The software is still imperfect and has room to be improved (better kernel /os/usb/timer integration).

When I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I?ll either agree with the pros or fix it.

Steve


From: George Csahanin [mailto:george at dyb.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM
To: Chuck Henderson
Cc: Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)

Not running ntpd here, though

George Csahanin
Sent from my iPad

On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson at gmail.com<mailto:chuck.henderson at gmail.com>> wrote:

Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often.  I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close.  This way I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently.
On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve at michiganbroadband.com<mailto:steve at michiganbroadband.com>> wrote:
> There's a recording of it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of George Csahanin
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM
> To: John Heron
> Cc: app_rpt mailing list
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
>
> I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed.
>
> Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it.
>
> I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone
>
> I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it.
>
> GeorgeC
> W2DB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com<mailto:jh0932 at gmail.com>>
> To: "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com<mailto:george at dyb.com>>
> Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl at att.net<mailto:vencl at att.net>>; "MichaelCarey"
> <michaelcarey at internode.on.net<mailto:michaelcarey at internode.on.net>>; "app_rpt mailing list"
> <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>>
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
>
>
>> Any motorboating issues?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com<mailto:george at dyb.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both
>>> Limey off a CF and Acid off disk
>>>
>>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the
>>> others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss
>>> decode.
>>>
>>> GeorgeC
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com<mailto:jh0932 at gmail.com>>
>>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl at att.net<mailto:vencl at att.net>>; "'Michael Carey'"
>>> <michaelcarey at internode.on.net<mailto:michaelcarey at internode.on.net>>; "'app_rpt mailing list'"
>>> <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
>>>
>>>
>>>> It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does
>>>> not. I
>>>> ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and finally
>>>> had
>>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to
>>>> being
>>>> fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no apparent
>>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It
>>>> boils
>>>> down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b
>>>> and
>>>> so on...
>>>>
>>>> I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody have
>>>> suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>
>>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM
>>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
>>>>
>>>> Michael,
>>>> I still have not figured out what causes this issue.
>>>> I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that
>>>> made
>>>> it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much
>>>> exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my
>>>> boxes
>>>> 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400
>>>> Mhz)
>>>> and I don't get this issue.. Go figure.
>>>> There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and interrupt
>>>> is
>>>> being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down.
>>>> I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these
>>>> machines as a solution for now.
>>>> Sorry I wish I had a better answer.
>>>> Lu
>>>> KA4EPS
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>
>>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Michael Carey
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM
>>>> To: app_rpt mailing list
>>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm
>>>> trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have
>>>> no direct impact on the operation of the node.
>>>>
>>>> I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink nodes.
>>>>
>>>> I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going
>>>> through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6,
>>>> etc).
>>>>
>>>> On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional
>>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have
>>>> another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes it
>>>> and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that has
>>>> marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node.
>>>>
>>>> Michael.
>>>> VK5ZEA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org<mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org<mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From bote_radio at botecomm.com  Mon Aug  1 06:00:59 2011
From: bote_radio at botecomm.com (Bote Man)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 02:00:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services
	(ACID)
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I gave my brain the day off today so please excuse if this is a recent
repeat: I recall reading in the last month or so about somebody playing with
a particular add-on device and it was customary for the software to set only
the registers needed by the application and ignore the rest.

Well, turns out that those other registers got the software all wrapped
around the axle so he had to go in and explicitly set every last register in
this hardware device to a particular state, then his trouble went away.

Maybe there is something similar going on with these usb devices that is
causing this motorboating problem? I haven't the first foggy clue about the
software, just throwing out a possible approach to squashing this bug once
and for all.

Bote
W4NUD


On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Steve Gladden <steve at michiganbroadband.com
> wrote:

> Yep I?ve tried disabling everything possible (everything that takes an
> interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included.****
>
> I?ve never noticed anything as such to make a significant difference?****
>
> I?ve reached the conclusion:****
>
> **1.       **USB sucks (as I?ve been told by the pros here) and it?s never
> going to get any better (on USB).****
>
> **2.       **The software is still imperfect and has room to be improved
> (better kernel /os/usb/timer integration).****
>
> ** **
>
> When I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I?ll either agree with the
> pros or fix it.****
>
> ** **
>
> Steve****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* George Csahanin [mailto:george at dyb.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM
> *To:* Chuck Henderson
> *Cc:* Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing list
> *Subject:* Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux
> Services (ACID)****
>
> ** **
>
> Not running ntpd here, though
>
> George Csahanin****
>
> Sent from my iPad****
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson at gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often.  I cron ntpdate to
> run once per hour to keep the time close.  This way I only hear the audio
> glitch once per hour rather than intermittently. ****
>
> On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve at michiganbroadband.com>
> wrote:
> > There's a recording of it over here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:
> app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of George Csahanin
> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM
> > To: John Heron
> > Cc: app_rpt mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> >
> > I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated
> disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2
> seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very
> brief and not noticed.
> >
> > Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it.
> >
> > I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to
> record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator
> in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone
> >
> > I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it.
> >
> > GeorgeC
> > W2DB
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com>
> > To: "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com>
> > Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl at att.net>; "MichaelCarey"
> > <michaelcarey at internode.on.net>; "app_rpt mailing list"
> > <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM
> > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> >
> >
> >> Any motorboating issues?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both
> >>> Limey off a CF and Acid off disk
> >>>
> >>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the
> >>> others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss
>
> >>> decode.
> >>>
> >>> GeorgeC
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl at att.net>; "'Michael Carey'"
> >>> <michaelcarey at internode.on.net>; "'app_rpt mailing list'"
> >>> <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does
> >>>> not. I
> >>>> ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and
> finally
> >>>> had
> >>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to
>
> >>>> being
> >>>> fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no
> apparent
> >>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It
>
> >>>> boils
> >>>> down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs.
> b
> >>>> and
> >>>> so on...
> >>>>
> >>>> I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody
> have
> >>>> suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
> >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM
> >>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list'
> >>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael,
> >>>> I still have not figured out what causes this issue.
> >>>> I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that
> >>>> made
> >>>> it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much
> >>>> exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my
>
> >>>> boxes
> >>>> 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400
> >>>> Mhz)
> >>>> and I don't get this issue.. Go figure.
> >>>> There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and
> interrupt
> >>>> is
> >>>> being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down.
> >>>> I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these
> >>>> machines as a solution for now.
> >>>> Sorry I wish I had a better answer.
> >>>> Lu
> >>>> KA4EPS
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
> >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Michael Carey
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM
> >>>> To: app_rpt mailing list
> >>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Everybody,
> >>>>
> >>>> In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm
> >>>> trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have
> >>>> no direct impact on the operation of the node.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink
> nodes.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going
> >>>> through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6,
> >>>> etc).
> >>>>
> >>>> On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional
> >>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have
> >>>> another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes
> it
> >>>> and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that
> has
> >>>> marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael.
> >>>> VK5ZEA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users****
>
>
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From george at dyb.com  Mon Aug  1 12:56:33 2011
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 07:56:33 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
References: <4E353598.30707@internode.on.net><01d701cc4f87$de0ee880$9a2cb980$@net><000001cc4f8d$a3f72d50$ebe587f0$@com><3228FC8162944B65923E0FE4140DC2F8@lintv.com><B5CE23AB-E08B-43EF-BE14-1EC3D34500A8@gmail.com><EFAB5266D5F147928E1F905BF573D00E@lintv.com><FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527381E4ACE8E@X2.michiganbb.local><CADEYVwiiJiPPGRjrYLxiQMQ74SUTOYJ2HPhOkf_cAFn1vbZsNA@mail.gmail.com><4D6CDB47-2294-4B26-B781-E6B869AE37B9@dyb.com>
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Message-ID: <BAE0394B71754B1AA0A1EB86D522ACA1@lintv.com>

When I grow up I'm going to be a retiree...

GC
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Gladden 
  To: George Csahanin ; Chuck Henderson 
  Cc: app_rpt mailing list 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)


  Yep I?ve tried disabling everything possible (everything that takes an interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included.

  I?ve never noticed anything as such to make a significant difference?

  I?ve reached the conclusion:

  1.       USB sucks (as I?ve been told by the pros here) and it?s never going to get any better (on USB).

  2.       The software is still imperfect and has room to be improved (better kernel /os/usb/timer integration).

   

  When I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I?ll either agree with the pros or fix it.

   

  Steve

   

   

  From: George Csahanin [mailto:george at dyb.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM
  To: Chuck Henderson
  Cc: Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing list
  Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)

   

  Not running ntpd here, though

  George Csahanin

  Sent from my iPad


  On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <chuck.henderson at gmail.com> wrote:

    Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often.  I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close.  This way I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently. 

    On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <steve at michiganbroadband.com> wrote:
    > There's a recording of it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs
    > 
    > Steve
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of George Csahanin
    > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM
    > To: John Heron
    > Cc: app_rpt mailing list
    > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)
    > 
    > I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed.
    > 
    > Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it.
    > 
    > I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone
    > 
    > I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it.
    > 
    > GeorgeC
    > W2DB
    > 
    > 
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com>
    > To: "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com>
    > Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl at att.net>; "MichaelCarey" 
    > <michaelcarey at internode.on.net>; "app_rpt mailing list" 
    > <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
    > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM
    > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
    > 
    > 
    >> Any motorboating issues?
    >>
    >> Sent from my iPhone
    >>
    >> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power supplies, both 
    >>> Limey off a CF and Acid off disk
    >>>
    >>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of them, the 
    >>> others use printer port for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss 
    >>> decode.
    >>>
    >>> GeorgeC
    >>>
    >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com>
    >>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl at att.net>; "'Michael Carey'" 
    >>> <michaelcarey at internode.on.net>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" 
    >>> <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
    >>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM
    >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> It begs the question on what hardware really works 100% and what does 
    >>>> not. I
    >>>> ran into this years ago running a global pactor III network and finally 
    >>>> had
    >>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came real close to 
    >>>> being
    >>>> fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no apparent
    >>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle locations... It 
    >>>> boils
    >>>> down to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b 
    >>>> and
    >>>> so on...
    >>>>
    >>>> I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for example... anybody have
    >>>> suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> -----Original Message-----
    >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
    >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
    >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM
    >>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list'
    >>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
    >>>>
    >>>> Michael,
    >>>> I still have not figured out what causes this issue.
    >>>> I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI boards and that 
    >>>> made
    >>>> it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty much
    >>>> exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know why all 8 of my 
    >>>> boxes
    >>>> 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400 
    >>>> Mhz)
    >>>> and I don't get this issue.. Go figure.
    >>>> There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps and interrupt 
    >>>> is
    >>>> being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it down.
    >>>> I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in exchange for these
    >>>> machines as a solution for now.
    >>>> Sorry I wish I had a better answer.
    >>>> Lu
    >>>> KA4EPS
    >>>>
    >>>> -----Original Message-----
    >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
    >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Michael Carey
    >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM
    >>>> To: app_rpt mailing list
    >>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi Everybody,
    >>>>
    >>>> In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm
    >>>> trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that have
    >>>> no direct impact on the operation of the node.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm after input on what others have done on their own AllStarLink nodes.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going
    >>>> through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6, 
    >>>> etc).
    >>>>
    >>>> On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the occasional
    >>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode transmits? I have
    >>>> another machine that I can use, but I would like to know what causes it
    >>>> and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that has
    >>>> marred an otherwise perfect experience with my AllStarLink node.
    >>>>
    >>>> Michael.
    >>>> VK5ZEA
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> _______________________________________________
    >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
    >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
    >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
    >>>>
    >>>> _______________________________________________
    >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
    >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
    >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >> 
    > 
    > 
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From vacuumtubesforever at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 14:45:19 2011
From: vacuumtubesforever at gmail.com (Ed Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:45:19 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
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Message-ID: <4E36BBFF.9010003@gmail.com>

I never plan to grow up.
On the motor boating issue, I've only experienced it when someone 
connects via the web transceiver. If they disconnect and reconnect it 
goes away. For whatever that is worth.

Ed W8VT

On 8/1/2011 8:56 AM, George Csahanin wrote:
> When I grow up I'm going to be a retiree...
> GC
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Steve Gladden <mailto:steve at michiganbroadband.com>
>     *To:* George Csahanin <mailto:george at dyb.com> ; Chuck Henderson
>     <mailto:chuck.henderson at gmail.com>
>     *Cc:* app_rpt mailing list <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:39 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux
>     Services (ACID)
>
>     Yep I've tried disabling everything possible (everything that
>     takes an interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included.
>
>     I've never noticed anything as such to make a significant
>     difference...
>
>     I've reached the conclusion:
>
>     1.USB sucks (as I've been told by the pros here) and it's never
>     going to get any better (on USB).
>
>     2.The software is still imperfect and has room to be improved
>     (better kernel /os/usb/timer integration).
>
>     When I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I'll either agree
>     with the pros or fix it.
>
>     Steve
>
>     *From:*George Csahanin [mailto:george at dyb.com]
>     *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM
>     *To:* Chuck Henderson
>     *Cc:* Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing list
>     *Subject:* Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux
>     Services (ACID)
>
>     Not running ntpd here, though
>
>     George Csahanin
>
>     Sent from my iPad
>
>
>     On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson
>     <chuck.henderson at gmail.com <mailto:chuck.henderson at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often.  I cron
>         ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close.  This way
>         I only hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than
>         intermittently.
>
>         On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden"
>         <steve at michiganbroadband.com
>         <mailto:steve at michiganbroadband.com>> wrote:
>         > There's a recording of it over here:
>         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs
>         >
>         > Steve
>         >
>         > -----Original Message-----
>         > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>         <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>
>         [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>         <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of
>         George Csahanin
>         > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM
>         > To: John Heron
>         > Cc: app_rpt mailing list
>         > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux
>         Services (ACID)
>         >
>         > I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief,
>         repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder,
>         maybe for time in 2 seconds, then ok for a while. t
>         iunterrupts main audio as well, just very brief and not noticed.
>         >
>         > Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used to it.
>         >
>         > I wanted to get a recording of it over a year ago, but no
>         clean way to record audio. You really get to notice it if you
>         put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with
>         something like a 1Kc tone
>         >
>         > I've tried five computers and four USB devices, all do it.
>         >
>         > GeorgeC
>         > W2DB
>         >
>         >
>         > ----- Original Message -----
>         > From: "John Heron" <jh0932 at gmail.com <mailto:jh0932 at gmail.com>>
>         > To: "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com <mailto:george at dyb.com>>
>         > Cc: "Lu Vencl" <vencl at att.net <mailto:vencl at att.net>>;
>         "MichaelCarey"
>         > <michaelcarey at internode.on.net
>         <mailto:michaelcarey at internode.on.net>>; "app_rpt mailing list"
>         > <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>>
>         > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM
>         > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services
>         (ACID)
>         >
>         >
>         >> Any motorboating issues?
>         >>
>         >> Sent from my iPhone
>         >>
>         >> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George Csahanin"
>         <george at dyb.com <mailto:george at dyb.com>> wrote:
>         >>
>         >>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards, PicoPSU power
>         supplies, both
>         >>> Limey off a CF and Acid off disk
>         >>>
>         >>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought PTT out of one of
>         them, the
>         >>> others use printer port for PTT, and all use software
>         squelch and ctcss
>         >>> decode.
>         >>>
>         >>> GeorgeC
>         >>>
>         >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heron"
>         <jh0932 at gmail.com <mailto:jh0932 at gmail.com>>
>         >>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <vencl at att.net <mailto:vencl at att.net>>;
>         "'Michael Carey'"
>         >>> <michaelcarey at internode.on.net
>         <mailto:michaelcarey at internode.on.net>>; "'app_rpt mailing list'"
>         >>> <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>>
>         >>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM
>         >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>>> It begs the question on what hardware really works 100%
>         and what does
>         >>>> not. I
>         >>>> ran into this years ago running a global pactor III
>         network and finally
>         >>>> had
>         >>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware came
>         real close to
>         >>>> being
>         >>>> fully compatible but would sporadically do weird things
>         for no apparent
>         >>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote jungle
>         locations... It
>         >>>> boils
>         >>>> down to who has had the least amount of issues with
>         motherboard a vs. b
>         >>>> and
>         >>>> so on...
>         >>>>
>         >>>> I am looking at small micro ATX form factors for
>         example... anybody have
>         >>>> suggestions for a inexpensive repeatable reliable solution?
>         >>>>
>         >>>>
>         >>>>
>         >>>> -----Original Message-----
>         >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>         <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>
>         >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>         <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
>         >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM
>         >>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing list'
>         >>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
>         >>>>
>         >>>> Michael,
>         >>>> I still have not figured out what causes this issue.
>         >>>> I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB PCI
>         boards and that
>         >>>> made
>         >>>> it much worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have
>         pretty much
>         >>>> exhausted all options at this point. I just don't know
>         why all 8 of my
>         >>>> boxes
>         >>>> 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even
>         down to 400
>         >>>> Mhz)
>         >>>> and I don't get this issue.. Go figure.
>         >>>> There has to be some other underlying issue where perhaps
>         and interrupt
>         >>>> is
>         >>>> being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin
>         it down.
>         >>>> I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in
>         exchange for these
>         >>>> machines as a solution for now.
>         >>>> Sorry I wish I had a better answer.
>         >>>> Lu
>         >>>> KA4EPS
>         >>>>
>         >>>> -----Original Message-----
>         >>>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>         <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>
>         >>>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>         <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of
>         Michael Carey
>         >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM
>         >>>> To: app_rpt mailing list
>         >>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)
>         >>>>
>         >>>> Hi Everybody,
>         >>>>
>         >>>> In an effort to make node 27871 a lean, mean, fighting
>         machine... I'm
>         >>>> trying to keep things neat and tidy by stopping any
>         services that have
>         >>>> no direct impact on the operation of the node.
>         >>>>
>         >>>> I'm after input on what others have done on their own
>         AllStarLink nodes.
>         >>>>
>         >>>> I have done a similar thing on my Icom G2 D-Star
>         gateway... going
>         >>>> through and disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC,
>         smartcard, IPv6,
>         >>>> etc).
>         >>>>
>         >>>> On a side note, has anyone found a definitive cause for
>         the occasional
>         >>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an AllStarNode
>         transmits? I have
>         >>>> another machine that I can use, but I would like to know
>         what causes it
>         >>>> and how it can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only
>         thing that has
>         >>>> marred an otherwise perfect experience with my
>         AllStarLink node.
>         >>>>
>         >>>> Michael.
>         >>>> VK5ZEA
>         >>>>
>         >>>>
>         >>>>
>         >>>> _______________________________________________
>         >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>         >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>         >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>         >>>>
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>         >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>         >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>         >>>>
>         >>>>
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>
>         >
>         >
>         > _______________________________________________
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>         > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>         > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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>         > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From dshaw at ke6upi.com  Mon Aug  1 22:56:38 2011
From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:56:38 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Pickle Login- Repeated Password Change
In-Reply-To: <1312042484.81407.YahooMailNeo@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAL=rv5X8hLq1onQQBmXqGoCV7eMdJTPMMUOcxa9mTehcC6K3Yg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACjmz_96AYUo7PR1jBtDz=SKLBjS2NbMGEmOGgCVUdqhk_RN6w@mail.gmail.com>
	<201107171718.46494.n7pkt@picklejar.org>
	<1312032265.51516.YahooMailNeo@web113515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1312042484.81407.YahooMailNeo@web113510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbLGdZ480exyrzu30Z=bgD=i+=v0D1RxURwmTobTFZLdfQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not using Pickle but, Google "Linux MOTD". Also on limeylinux you have
to save any changes that you make so it gets saved o the card. Just an idea.

David

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 9:14 AM, John (WB5NFC) <wb5nfc at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> After a successful write of Pickle to the SD card on my BeagleBoard, the
> preliminary setup script proceeded normally. My new PicoNode is up, but
> every time I log in using Putty, I'm directed to change my password before
> being allowed to continue. How do I eliminate this pesky behavior?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> John / wb5nfc
>
>
>
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Tue Aug  2 02:04:37 2011
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV))
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:04:37 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] chan_simpleusb
In-Reply-To: <565261258-1312166351-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1609600748-@b17.c19.bise6.blackberry>
References: <001e01cc4fca$ea86c270$6402a8c0@main>
	<565261258-1312166351-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1609600748-@b17.c19.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4E375B35.4020607@va3uv.com>

Hi All;

A quick update on my chan_simpleusb testing on the Alix board:

First a correction, this board has 256MB of RAM (not 128).

Secondly, I connected up my fob (aka the 'UVRI' ;) to my repeater 
(normally used for my D-STAR experiments) and ran chan_simpleusb / the 
Alix board as a full-duplex repeater system.  I had a QSO with Jon, 
VA3RQ, for around 20 to 30 minutes and it works just fine!

Load average was around 0.5 to 0.6 when TX'ing audio off the Net, and 
around 0.35 to 0.4 when in local repeat mode.

There were no audio drop-out issues / motor boating etc.

Now the relevance of mentioning that my repeater is normally used for my 
D-STAR work is that it is wired for raw discriminator audio out and TX 
audio is wired to go directly into the modulator.

chan_simpleusb expects squelched / de-emphasized RX audio and expects 
the TX audio to be injected into the MIC input.

So hence the audio was rather hot - but that was to be expected.  I am 
sure that with the correct interface, this will work just fine.

Great job Jim!

Cheers,

Ramesh.



On 31/07/2011 10:39 PM, Ramesh Dhami, VA3UV/M wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> With tremendous help from Jim, we have chan_simpleusb and app_rpt running on an Alix 3d3 single board (embedded) system.
>
> The Alix board runs Centos off a 2GB CF card; has a 500MHz processor, 128MB of RAM, is DC powered, making it an attractive solution for remote sites.
>
> For testing, I just have a single radio connected to it and it is working very well indeed.  Next step is to connect a full duplex repeater and see how that goes.  I am sure that it will be fine if early indication is anything to go by!
>
> Thank you Jim!
>
> Ramesh.
>
> www.va3uv.com
>
> A member of the FREE STAR* team.
>
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "K&R Yoksh"<yokshs at sbcglobal.net>
> Sender: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:43:41
> To: app_rpt<app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] chan_simpleusb
>
> Just a status update for the list...
>
> I've been running the new simpleusb for about 24 hours.. So far, it seems to
> perform just as chan_usb..
>
> Parallel port cos/ptt is working well, along with parallel GPIO.
>
> I'm noticing less audio "jitter" with simpleusb... Not surprising, as I am
> using only a P3/866 for 2 RF nodes...
>
> 73.
>
> Kyle
> K0KN
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> well *certain* people (you *know* who you are :-) :-) were *SUPPOSED* to be
> alpha-testing a version that supports that. That was now at least a couple
> of
> MONTHS ago!
>
> I dont suppose, Kyle, that *you* would be interested in doing that for me..
> like NOW..
> would you?? :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> JIM
>
>
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From vacuumtubesforever at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 22:26:05 2011
From: vacuumtubesforever at gmail.com (Ed Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:26:05 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node Connection Log
Message-ID: <4E38797D.1030702@gmail.com>

Is there an easy way to generate a log to show just connection history?

Ed  W8VT


From kb7rsi at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 03:16:51 2011
From: kb7rsi at gmail.com (KB7RSI)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:16:51 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Syntor X
Message-ID: <000601cc531e$20154190$603fc4b0$@com>

Hello all.

I'm just going to throw this out there in hopes of happiness.

Does anyone have or know where I can get a personality board for a Motorola
Syntor X.

It requires any of the HLN4760 series but if a C model is available, I'll
take it.

 

I'm trying to get my asterisk node online RF wise.

 

Thanks

 

Harold

Kb7rsi

Las Vegas, NV

Allstarlink: 27863

 

 

By the way.  I bought the only one that was on Ebay just a couple of weeks
ago.

I needed 2 @ that time.

Just 1 now.

 

 

Later

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From njgarbenis at gmail.com  Sat Aug  6 02:37:06 2011
From: njgarbenis at gmail.com (neal Garbenis)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:37:06 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] chan_tlb
Message-ID: <CALB2vB8xFiJ6aEa09phPkxD8GG5HvkGQ58efXYyoLK8gRXZRVg@mail.gmail.com>

Working with chan_tlb I am able to get asterisk to connect to tlb,  but I am
getting this error message at the asterisk CLI> WARNING[2852]:
chan_tlb.c:1362 TLB_xwrite: Cannot handle frames in 2 format


What does this mean

Neal
NG8Y
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From vencl at att.net  Sun Aug  7 14:31:15 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 10:31:15 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Permalink info desired
Message-ID: <069901cc550e$aa177970$fe466c50$@net>

Just looking for direction how to configure a permalink?  In other words, I
would like the option to have a node auto reconnect to a specific node
should the connection break or node reboot.

Thanks

Lu

KA4EPS

 

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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Sun Aug  7 15:29:25 2011
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV))
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:29:25 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Permalink info desired
In-Reply-To: <069901cc550e$aa177970$fe466c50$@net>
References: <069901cc550e$aa177970$fe466c50$@net>
Message-ID: <4E3EAF55.5000406@va3uv.com>

On 07/08/2011 10:31 AM, Lu Vencl wrote:
> Just looking for direction how to configure a permalink? In other words,
> I would like the option to have a node auto reconnect to a specific node
> should the connection break or node reboot.
>

<-- Hi Lu;  Add the following to your functions stanza in rpt.conf:


91=ilink,13
92=ilink,11

Reload rpt.conf or restart Asterisk; then *91 <node_number> to establish 
a permanent link;  *92 <node_number> to disconnect from a permanent link.


Cheers,

Ramesh.

p.s., still going strong with chan_simplusb on an Alix board :)



From dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca  Sun Aug  7 19:38:01 2011
From: dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca (David Powell-Williams)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 12:38:01 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Command Mode with Iaxrpt
Message-ID: <b407fb$dnejrd@pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca>

I have noticed that I cannot use Iaxrpt to send remote commands to a linked
node using the *4 <node_number> syntax.

Remote commands entered via DTMF or the console (rpt fun <nodename>
<command>) work fine.  

Commands to the target node via a direct Iaxrpt connection also work.

However, if the target node is a remote base, only one connection is
possible, so remote commands are necessary to make changes when the remote
base node is connected to a standard node.

My rpt.conf file does include the necessary settings for link_functions.

I have asked Steve H about this but he is too busy to look at it for the
moment.

Anybody have any experience with using Iaxrpt for remote commands?

73,

Dave
VE7MQ.



From telesistant at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  8 23:56:46 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:56:46 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Command Mode with Iaxrpt
In-Reply-To: <b407fb$dnejrd@pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca>
References: <b407fb$dnejrd@pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W281838B307E76617B18C83B1210@phx.gbl>


you are correct. IAXRPT allows you to select what node you are "sending DTMF digits"
to in the node number (account) window (the same one you use to select which node 
to connect to).

JIM WB6NIL

> From: dpowellwilliams at shaw.ca
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 12:38:01 -0700
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Command Mode with Iaxrpt
> 
> I have noticed that I cannot use Iaxrpt to send remote commands to a linked
> node using the *4 <node_number> syntax.
> 
> Remote commands entered via DTMF or the console (rpt fun <nodename>
> <command>) work fine.  
> 
> Commands to the target node via a direct Iaxrpt connection also work.
> 
> However, if the target node is a remote base, only one connection is
> possible, so remote commands are necessary to make changes when the remote
> base node is connected to a standard node.
> 
> My rpt.conf file does include the necessary settings for link_functions.
> 
> I have asked Steve H about this but he is too busy to look at it for the
> moment.
> 
> Anybody have any experience with using Iaxrpt for remote commands?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Dave
> VE7MQ.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From kt9ac at ameritech.net  Thu Aug 11 19:43:19 2011
From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Switching from chan_usbradio to chan_simpleusb
Message-ID: <1313091799.61423.YahooMailClassic@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is there a simple way to change a node from chan_usbradio to chan_simpleusb? I have updated my system to do the PL encoding itself and would like to remove the burden of generating PL from the URI. 

Sorry I can't seem to find an easy way to switch it over in the docs.

Tony


From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Thu Aug 11 21:30:32 2011
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:30:32 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Switching from chan_usbradio to chan_simpleusb
In-Reply-To: <1313091799.61423.YahooMailClassic@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1313091799.61423.YahooMailClassic@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E4449F8.8090002@bdboyle.com>

On 8/11/2011 3:43 PM, Tony KT9AC wrote:
> Is there a simple way to change a node from chan_usbradio to chan_simpleusb? I have updated my system to do the PL encoding itself and would like to remove the burden of generating PL from the URI. 
> 

PL isn't generated by the URI, but the dsp in app_rpt.

I'd just rem out the statements in usbradio.conf for the node in
question and restart asterisk.

From:

txctcssdefault=141.3
rxctcssfreqs=141.3
txctcssfreqs=141.3
...
ctcssfrom=dsp

To:
;txctcssdefault=141.3
;rxctcssfreqs=141.3
;txctcssfreqs=141.3
...
ctcssfrom=no

And use the tune program to turn down ctcss transmit to 0.  Don't touch,
 (IMHO) the xmt setting, since the radio will mix your audio in with the
hw generated tone...


No need to use simpleusb.  This is what I did...seems to work ok.
Others may have a different solution.

BB
allstar 27294, 27295, etc
WB0YLE Morrisvile PA



> Sorry I can't seem to find an easy way to switch it over in the docs.
> 
> Tony
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 



From yokshs at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 12 16:42:22 2011
From: yokshs at sbcglobal.net (K&R Yoksh)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:42:22 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Switching from chan_usbradio to chan_simpleusb
References: <mailman.1.1313164801.9887.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <000901cc590e$cf729930$6402a8c0@main>


----- Original Message ----- 
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tony KT9AC
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Switching from chan_usbradio to chan_simpleusb
>
> Is there a simple way to change a node from chan_usbradio to 
> chan_simpleusb? I have updated my system to do the PL encoding itself and 
> would like to remove the burden of generating PL from the URI.
>
> Sorry I can't seem to find an easy way to switch it over in the docs.
>
> Tony
>

Hello Tony,

I've been using simpleusb for a little while, and find that it works quite 
well. Here are some hints to switch over to Simpleusb:


1) In rpt.conf, change your rxchannel to:
    rxchannel=SimpleUSB/usb2211

2) Copy usbradio.conf to simpleusb.conf

3) At a prompt, type simpleusb-tune-menu. Adjust your audio levels, etc for 
each fob, then select W to write the settings to simpleusb_tune_usbxxxx.conf

73 and good luck,

Kyle Yoksh
K0KN
Olathe, KS
Allstar 2210-2215





From vencl at att.net  Fri Aug 12 19:57:29 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:57:29 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?
Message-ID: <00ce01cc592a$11964120$34c2c360$@net>

I just build my next node, and can't see to get registered..

I also noticed the dial in # is not working as well.  I have waited at least
4 hours and still nothing.

Anyone know if there might be an issue?

Thanks

Lu, KA4EPS

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From kb2ear at kb2ear.net  Fri Aug 12 20:10:50 2011
From: kb2ear at kb2ear.net (Scott Weis)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:10:50 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?
In-Reply-To: <00ce01cc592a$11964120$34c2c360$@net>
References: <00ce01cc592a$11964120$34c2c360$@net>
Message-ID: <009a01cc592b$eea3cdc0$cbeb6940$@kb2ear.net>

If you do an iax2 show registry in  asterisk you will see the status.  Mine
all show <Unregistered> at the moment.

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 3:57 PM
To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?

 

I just build my next node, and can't see to get registered..

I also noticed the dial in # is not working as well.  I have waited at least
4 hours and still nothing.

Anyone know if there might be an issue?

Thanks

Lu, KA4EPS

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From hkwilliamson at gmail.com  Fri Aug 12 20:21:20 2011
From: hkwilliamson at gmail.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:21:20 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?
In-Reply-To: <009a01cc592b$eea3cdc0$cbeb6940$@kb2ear.net>
References: <00ce01cc592a$11964120$34c2c360$@net>
	<009a01cc592b$eea3cdc0$cbeb6940$@kb2ear.net>
Message-ID: <CAFweeiTwEginHk3L_99+cBOPJaAcmZgXqy0OGT5ncU_SWj7osA@mail.gmail.com>

Yep. Same thing here..not registered.

73's,

Keith
KF7DRV
Allstar: 2541

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Scott Weis <kb2ear at kb2ear.net> wrote:

> If you do an iax2 show registry in  asterisk you will see the status.  Mine
> all show <Unregistered> at the moment.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:
> app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] *On Behalf Of *Lu Vencl
> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2011 3:57 PM
> *To:* App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?****
>
> ** **
>
> I just build my next node, and can?t see to get registered..****
>
> I also noticed the dial in # is not working as well.  I have waited at
> least 4 hours and still nothing.****
>
> Anyone know if there might be an issue?****
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 12 21:00:56 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:00:56 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?
In-Reply-To: <00ce01cc592a$11964120$34c2c360$@net>
References: <00ce01cc592a$11964120$34c2c360$@net>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W1F8C9C81E281F0A4DA283B1250@phx.gbl>


For some strange reason, the server rebooted last night and didnt come completely back up.
It should be happy now.

Thanx for letting me know.

JIM

From: vencl at att.net
To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:57:29 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?
















I just build my next node, and can?t see to get
registered..

I also noticed the dial in # is not working as well.  I have
waited at least 4 hours and still nothing.

Anyone know if there might be an issue?

Thanks

Lu, KA4EPS







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From vencl at att.net  Fri Aug 12 21:30:42 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:30:42 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W1F8C9C81E281F0A4DA283B1250@phx.gbl>
References: <00ce01cc592a$11964120$34c2c360$@net>
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Message-ID: <010101cc5937$171b7310$45525930$@net>

Perfect!  Works now.. Thanks Jim!

 

From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:01 PM
To: vencl at att.net; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?

 

For some strange reason, the server rebooted last night and didnt come
completely back up.
It should be happy now.

Thanx for letting me know.

JIM

  _____  

From: vencl at att.net
To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:57:29 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Authentication issue / server down?

I just build my next node, and can't see to get registered..

I also noticed the dial in # is not working as well.  I have waited at least
4 hours and still nothing.

Anyone know if there might be an issue?

Thanks

Lu, KA4EPS


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From kt9ac at ameritech.net  Sat Aug 13 02:18:56 2011
From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 21:18:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MDC Status Reply not working with XTS model radios
Message-ID: <4E45DF10.60001@ameritech.net>

This might not be a widely-used feature, but I wanted to post it here 
first versus directly to Jim (to follow the rules).

There is a feature within App_rpt where you can send MDC1200 status 
messages and have commands acted upon. I've used a MCS2000 mobile and 
Astro Saber successfully for a very fast and efficient control method. 
Recently I sold my Astro Saber and bought an XTS3000. I can still send 
MDC statuses and get them acted upon, but no longer get the "ACK" back 
from Allstar.

No changes in software and the logs show the op=46 like before and the 
proper Unit ID and status sent...so I'm at a loss of why Allstar stops 
trying to ACK these statuses for this one type of radio (my mobile still 
works fine). Debug suggestions and code testing welcome.

Thanks,
Tony



From Sysman at Xceptions.COM  Sat Aug 13 02:25:27 2011
From: Sysman at Xceptions.COM (Paul J. Agamata)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:25:27 -1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MDC Status Reply not working with XTS model
 radios
In-Reply-To: <4E45DF10.60001@ameritech.net>
Message-ID: <CA6B03D5.6C6B%Sysman@Xceptions.COM>

I have the same issues between two radios.  My XTS-5000 responds properly
but my XTS-3000 does not.  I'll do some digging this weekend to see where
the issue is.  Because my XTS-5000 functions properly, it's probably a
codeplug issue.

Paul

On 8/12/11 4:18 PM, "Tony KT9AC" <kt9ac at ameritech.net> wrote:

>This might not be a widely-used feature, but I wanted to post it here
>first versus directly to Jim (to follow the rules).
>
>There is a feature within App_rpt where you can send MDC1200 status
>messages and have commands acted upon. I've used a MCS2000 mobile and
>Astro Saber successfully for a very fast and efficient control method.
>Recently I sold my Astro Saber and bought an XTS3000. I can still send
>MDC statuses and get them acted upon, but no longer get the "ACK" back
>from Allstar.
>
>No changes in software and the logs show the op=46 like before and the
>proper Unit ID and status sent...so I'm at a loss of why Allstar stops
>trying to ACK these statuses for this one type of radio (my mobile still
>works fine). Debug suggestions and code testing welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>Tony
>
>_______________________________________________
>App_rpt-users mailing list
>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users



From kt9ac at ameritech.net  Sat Aug 13 02:38:41 2011
From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (=?utf-8?B?VG9ueSBLVDlBQw==?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 21:38:41 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users]
	=?utf-8?q?MDC_Status_Reply_not_working_with_XTS_m?=
	=?utf-8?q?odel_radios?=
Message-ID: <416407.82154.qm@smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Paul. 

----- Reply message -----
From: "Paul J. Agamata" <Sysman at Xceptions.COM>
Date: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 9:25 pm
Subject: [App_rpt-users] MDC Status Reply not working with XTS model radios
To: "Tony KT9AC" <kt9ac at ameritech.net>, "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>

I have the same issues between two radios.  My XTS-5000 responds properly
but my XTS-3000 does not.  I'll do some digging this weekend to see where
the issue is.  Because my XTS-5000 functions properly, it's probably a
codeplug issue.

Paul

On 8/12/11 4:18 PM, "Tony KT9AC" <kt9ac at ameritech.net> wrote:

>This might not be a widely-used feature, but I wanted to post it here
>first versus directly to Jim (to follow the rules).
>
>There is a feature within App_rpt where you can send MDC1200 status
>messages and have commands acted upon. I've used a MCS2000 mobile and
>Astro Saber successfully for a very fast and efficient control method.
>Recently I sold my Astro Saber and bought an XTS3000. I can still send
>MDC statuses and get them acted upon, but no longer get the "ACK" back
>from Allstar.
>
>No changes in software and the logs show the op=46 like before and the
>proper Unit ID and status sent...so I'm at a loss of why Allstar stops
>trying to ACK these statuses for this one type of radio (my mobile still
>works fine). Debug suggestions and code testing welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>Tony
>
>_______________________________________________
>App_rpt-users mailing list
>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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From jbryant at bellsouth.net  Sat Aug 13 16:55:21 2011
From: jbryant at bellsouth.net (Joe Bryant)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:55:21 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID CD install boot failure
Message-ID: <003601cc59d9$cad08420$60718c60$@net>

All,

I have a 2002 vintage, VIA EPIA Mini-ITX box (C3 Eden 800Mhz processor). It
has 512 MB RAM, and a 60Gig hard drive. The ACID / CentOS install CD, will
not complete the boot process, it goes into a loop. At the point shown in
this picture:  http://www.qsl.net/k4bry/mini-itx_boot-fail.jpg , the screen
goes dark, and the box reboots into the CD again. The CD is good, it was
used on my first install with no problems.

 

I have manipulated the BIOS settings for several hours, with no change in
the result. It may be caused by a lack of enough RAM, but I Don't know. If
there is documentation on the minimum requirements for an ACID install, I
can't find it.  If I try to find RAM to take it to the 1 Gig maximum, it is
likely to cost more than this old Motherboard is worth.

 

After no progress with this, to see if it was hardware failure, I installed
the Kubuntu-10.04-Alternate-i386 version of Ubuntu, GUI and all, without a
hitch. It runs very slowy, which is to be expected, but it does run. 

 

Does anyone see an obvious problem, or have any idea what I should try next?
I have a second box with the same Motherboard, It would be nice and cheap,
if I could get them both working. 

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Joe Bryant

K4BRY

 

 

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From nuhtrue at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 19:26:30 2011
From: nuhtrue at gmail.com (nuhtrue at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:26:30 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1313251201.32704.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <20cf303bf95ec7aac804aa680195@google.com>

Do the Astro Saber and XTS flashcodes both have the same MDC values?

Bob
KK6RQ

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> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

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> radios

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> This might not be a widely-used feature, but I wanted to post it here

> first versus directly to Jim (to follow the rules).



> There is a feature within App_rpt where you can send MDC1200 status

> messages and have commands acted upon. I've used a MCS2000 mobile and

> Astro Saber successfully for a very fast and efficient control method.

> Recently I sold my Astro Saber and bought an XTS3000. I can still send

> MDC statuses and get them acted upon, but no longer get the "ACK" back

> from Allstar.



> No changes in software and the logs show the op=46 like before and the

> proper Unit ID and status sent...so I'm at a loss of why Allstar stops

> trying to ACK these statuses for this one type of radio (my mobile still

> works fine). Debug suggestions and code testing welcome.



> Thanks,

> Tony







> ------------------------------



> Message: 2

> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:25:27 -1000

> From: "Paul J. Agamata"

> To: Tony KT9AC kt9ac at ameritech.net>, "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org"

> app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>

> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] MDC Status Reply not working with XTS

> model radios

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> I have the same issues between two radios. My XTS-5000 responds properly

> but my XTS-3000 does not. I'll do some digging this weekend to see where

> the issue is. Because my XTS-5000 functions properly, it's probably a

> codeplug issue.



> Paul



> On 8/12/11 4:18 PM, "Tony KT9AC" kt9ac at ameritech.net> wrote:



> >This might not be a widely-used feature, but I wanted to post it here

> >first versus directly to Jim (to follow the rules).

> >

> >There is a feature within App_rpt where you can send MDC1200 status

> >messages and have commands acted upon. I've used a MCS2000 mobile and

> >Astro Saber successfully for a very fast and efficient control method.

> >Recently I sold my Astro Saber and bought an XTS3000. I can still send

> >MDC statuses and get them acted upon, but no longer get the "ACK" back

> >from Allstar.

> >

> >No changes in software and the logs show the op=46 like before and the

> >proper Unit ID and status sent...so I'm at a loss of why Allstar stops

> >trying to ACK these statuses for this one type of radio (my mobile still

> >works fine). Debug suggestions and code testing welcome.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Tony

> >

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> >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

> >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users







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> model radios

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> Thanks Paul.



> ----- Reply message -----

> From: "Paul J. Agamata"

> Date: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 9:25 pm

> Subject: [App_rpt-users] MDC Status Reply not working with XTS model  
> radios

> To: "Tony KT9AC" kt9ac at ameritech.net>, "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org"  
> app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>



> I have the same issues between two radios. My XTS-5000 responds properly

> but my XTS-3000 does not. I'll do some digging this weekend to see where

> the issue is. Because my XTS-5000 functions properly, it's probably a

> codeplug issue.



> Paul



> On 8/12/11 4:18 PM, "Tony KT9AC" kt9ac at ameritech.net> wrote:



> >This might not be a widely-used feature, but I wanted to post it here

> >first versus directly to Jim (to follow the rules).

> >

> >There is a feature within App_rpt where you can send MDC1200 status

> >messages and have commands acted upon. I've used a MCS2000 mobile and

> >Astro Saber successfully for a very fast and efficient control method.

> >Recently I sold my Astro Saber and bought an XTS3000. I can still send

> >MDC statuses and get them acted upon, but no longer get the "ACK" back

> >from Allstar.

> >

> >No changes in software and the logs show the op=46 like before and the

> >proper Unit ID and status sent...so I'm at a loss of why Allstar stops

> >trying to ACK these statuses for this one type of radio (my mobile still

> >works fine). Debug suggestions and code testing welcome.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Tony

> >

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From nuhtrue at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 19:32:22 2011
From: nuhtrue at gmail.com (nuhtrue at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:32:22 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1313251201.32704.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <90e6ba6e8bccc573ff04aa681686@google.com>

I also forgot to mention, since the Astro Saber and XTS3000 are basically  
the same radio, differences
in Host rev could definitely make a difference, all other things being the  
same.

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From kt9ac at ameritech.net  Sat Aug 13 20:04:21 2011
From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (KT9AC)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:04:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <90e6ba6e8bccc573ff04aa681686@google.com>
References: <90e6ba6e8bccc573ff04aa681686@google.com>
Message-ID: <4E46D8C5.9040905@ameritech.net>

The Astro Saber had both P25 and H38 Smartzone (trunking) flash, where 
the XTS has P25 and H37 Smartnet flash. Both were capable of MDC 
encoding and yes the firmware versions were different - the XTS being 
the newest at 8.03 something for DSP. XTS5000's are in the Astro25 
family and have yet newer and later code than the Saber's. I've verified 
my settings between the old saved codeplug from the Saber and my new XTS.

That shouldn't make a difference though since the app_rpt.c code is only 
looking for OP=46 to mean status and it does decode/act properly on the 
mdcmacro. I can do an MDC Page (cop,60) from Allstar and the radio beeps 
accordingly. So from the Allstar aspect unless there is something else 
being looked for? Maybe I should pour through the mdc_decode.c and .h 
files to see.

On a side note, I'm happy to see more interest in people using MDC1200 
for macros, etc. Its really a good way to go since you don't need to 
"text" DTMF digits while driving or worry about making an error keying 
something in. A nice, clean 175mS packet with error-correcting. The only 
negative is the data burst comes over the air, where DTMF gets muted.

Tony

On 8/13/2011 2:32 PM, nuhtrue at gmail.com wrote:
> I also forgot to mention, since the Astro Saber and XTS3000 are 
> basically the same radio, differences
> in Host rev could definitely make a difference, all other things being 
> the same.
>
> Bob
> KK6RQ
>
>
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From howard at small.com.au  Sat Aug 13 21:57:18 2011
From: howard at small.com.au (Howard Small)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:57:18 +1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID Installation Problem
Message-ID: <009d01cc5a03$f95c28b0$ec147a10$@small.com.au>



Hi All

 

I installed the ACID on a Toshiba Tecra A3 without any problems except that
it does not install a driver for the Ethernet adapter (at least that is what
I think is the problem). When I look at my DHCP server it is giving an ip
address to the Tecra but after the installation reboot when it gets to the
section where it checks the ip address at eth0 it fails and the installation
cannot proceed. There is only one led on the Ethernet socket alight.

 

I am fine on Windows but linux??? So how do I address this problem? 

 

Thanks

 

Howard

VK4BS

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From jbryant at bellsouth.net  Sun Aug 14 05:19:18 2011
From: jbryant at bellsouth.net (Joe Bryant)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:19:18 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID CD install boot failure
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbLSmyENPEcVrQXnfYSN5iHB8NLsa_wuaps9hRFyAJy4PQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003601cc59d9$cad08420$60718c60$@net>
	<CAH4RvbLSmyENPEcVrQXnfYSN5iHB8NLsa_wuaps9hRFyAJy4PQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008901cc5a41$b851bb80$28f53280$@net>

No, there are none.

 

From: shawpbx at gmail.com [mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com] On Behalf Of David KE6UPI
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:36 PM
To: jbryant at bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] ACID CD install boot failure

 

Do you have any pci cards installed? 

David

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Joe Bryant <jbryant at bellsouth.net> wrote:

All,

I have a 2002 vintage, VIA EPIA Mini-ITX box (C3 Eden 800Mhz processor). It
has 512 MB RAM, and a 60Gig hard drive. The ACID / CentOS install CD, will
not complete the boot process, it goes into a loop. At the point shown in
this picture:  http://www.qsl.net/k4bry/mini-itx_boot-fail.jpg , the screen
goes dark, and the box reboots into the CD again. The CD is good, it was
used on my first install with no problems.

 

I have manipulated the BIOS settings for several hours, with no change in
the result. It may be caused by a lack of enough RAM, but I Don't know. If
there is documentation on the minimum requirements for an ACID install, I
can't find it.  If I try to find RAM to take it to the 1 Gig maximum, it is
likely to cost more than this old Motherboard is worth.

 

After no progress with this, to see if it was hardware failure, I installed
the Kubuntu-10.04-Alternate-i386 version of Ubuntu, GUI and all, without a
hitch. It runs very slowy, which is to be expected, but it does run. 

 

Does anyone see an obvious problem, or have any idea what I should try next?
I have a second box with the same Motherboard, It would be nice and cheap,
if I could get them both working. 

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Joe Bryant

K4BRY

 

 


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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 16 19:34:55 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:34:55 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release
Message-ID: <BLU155-W32C861D0879F40D9BFFE30B1290@phx.gbl>


There is a new ACID release (new sources) available when
you install a new version of ACID, which now contains,
amongst a number of other things, full support for the new
DMK Engineering URIx (the new version of the URI which
is now what is shipping) for both chan_usbradio and chan_simpleusb.
In addition, chan_simpleusb fully supports all the GPIO and
parallel port functions that chan_usbradio has.

The URIx has more GPIO pins available than the
original URI did.

The new releases (containing the same new sources) of
Limey Linux and Pickle (BeagleBoard) will be available soon.

JIM WB6NIL

 		 	   		  
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From jbryant at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug 17 02:08:50 2011
From: jbryant at bellsouth.net (Joe Bryant)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:08:50 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W32C861D0879F40D9BFFE30B1290@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU155-W32C861D0879F40D9BFFE30B1290@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00ff01cc5c82$9bfb3fe0$d3f1bfa0$@net>

Jim,

                You are saying the new release is available at the same
link, where the old one was?

 

http://stats.allstarlink.org/dl/

 

Joe Bryant

K4BRY

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:35 PM
To: app_rpt mailing list
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release

 

There is a new ACID release (new sources) available when
you install a new version of ACID, which now contains,
amongst a number of other things, full support for the new
DMK Engineering URIx (the new version of the URI which
is now what is shipping) for both chan_usbradio and chan_simpleusb.
In addition, chan_simpleusb fully supports all the GPIO and
parallel port functions that chan_usbradio has.

The URIx has more GPIO pins available than the
original URI did.

The new releases (containing the same new sources) of
Limey Linux and Pickle (BeagleBoard) will be available soon.

JIM WB6NIL

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From jbryant at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug 17 03:08:25 2011
From: jbryant at bellsouth.net (Joe Bryant)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:08:25 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID CD install boot failure
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbJfW7QgdNY++yU_qe8mvtzFmvvdip1Rh0eBSVdpRHsU9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003601cc59d9$cad08420$60718c60$@net>	<CAH4RvbLSmyENPEcVrQXnfYSN5iHB8NLsa_wuaps9hRFyAJy4PQ@mail.gmail.com>	<008901cc5a41$b851bb80$28f53280$@net>
	<CAH4RvbJfW7QgdNY++yU_qe8mvtzFmvvdip1Rh0eBSVdpRHsU9A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <011201cc5c8a$ee2c88c0$ca859a40$@net>

David,

                The picture on my original post shows the exact point where
the Centos boot stops, and reboots the machine. Not very far into it. The
hard drive is a standard 60 gig IDE.

 

 

From: shawpbx at gmail.com [mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com] On Behalf Of David KE6UPI
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:18 AM
To: jbryant at bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] ACID CD install boot failure

 

How far does the boot go? Does it stop loading initrd.img? Are you using IDE
or SATA drives? I have installed CentOS then used the install files from
ACID and that does work. If you are using SATA that might be the problem.. 

David

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Joe Bryant <jbryant at bellsouth.net> wrote:

No, there are none.

 

From: shawpbx at gmail.com [mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com] On Behalf Of David KE6UPI
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:36 PM
To: jbryant at bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] ACID CD install boot failure

 

Do you have any pci cards installed? 

David

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Joe Bryant <jbryant at bellsouth.net> wrote:

All,

I have a 2002 vintage, VIA EPIA Mini-ITX box (C3 Eden 800Mhz processor). It
has 512 MB RAM, and a 60Gig hard drive. The ACID / CentOS install CD, will
not complete the boot process, it goes into a loop. At the point shown in
this picture:  http://www.qsl.net/k4bry/mini-itx_boot-fail.jpg , the screen
goes dark, and the box reboots into the CD again. The CD is good, it was
used on my first install with no problems.

 

I have manipulated the BIOS settings for several hours, with no change in
the result. It may be caused by a lack of enough RAM, but I Don't know. If
there is documentation on the minimum requirements for an ACID install, I
can't find it.  If I try to find RAM to take it to the 1 Gig maximum, it is
likely to cost more than this old Motherboard is worth.

 

After no progress with this, to see if it was hardware failure, I installed
the Kubuntu-10.04-Alternate-i386 version of Ubuntu, GUI and all, without a
hitch. It runs very slowy, which is to be expected, but it does run. 

 

Does anyone see an obvious problem, or have any idea what I should try next?
I have a second box with the same Motherboard, It would be nice and cheap,
if I could get them both working. 

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Joe Bryant

K4BRY

 

 


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From mark at micro-node.com  Sat Aug 20 17:38:35 2011
From: mark at micro-node.com (Mark Guibord)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:38:35 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM (Radio Thin Client Module) Introduction
Message-ID: <000001cc5f5f$ff0aee20$fd20ca60$@com>

We are pleased to announce the Allstar SMT Voter/Simulcast RTCM (Radio Thin
Client Module). Many of you are familiar with Jim's (WB6NIL) Voter project
introduced a few months back. (https://allstarlink.org/voter.html) The voter
project was developed to link remote receiver sites back to a centralized
Allstar node server running voter channel driver software. The Voter channel
driver synchronously monitors remote receivers (Via the Internet) and their
RSSI levels and selects the strongest received signal for transmission over
the system. 


The RTCM is the next generation of this voter hardware/software platform.
The surface mount design allows for a reduced footprint of approximately 122
x 77 x 30mm, small enough to possibly be fitted within the radio or repeater
in which it controls. Some of the many added features include an efficient
wide input voltage power supply (7-32 VDC),  Synchronized transmitter
operation (Simulcast), Synchronized PL generation, DTMF decoding/Encoding
and shielded D-Shell I/O connections. The module comes complete with an
extruded aluminum enclosure for increased RF shielding. 

 

The unit price is $269.00 for licensed amateurs and $369.00 for commercial
businesses, quantity pricing available upon request. Initial production
units will be available for shipment in late September early October time
frame.

 

If you are interested in a live simulcast demo of our three repeater system
here in Las Vegas please send email to  <mailto:sales at micro-node.com>
sales at micro-node.com for more information. 

  

Regards,

Mark Guibord

Micro-Node International

702-528-4700

 

 

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From vencl at att.net  Sun Aug 21 14:40:28 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:40:28 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
Message-ID: <015401cc6010$45f63b90$d1e2b2b0$@net>

I think there MIGHT be a bug with regards to the time zone setting for the
East Coast.

All of my nodes read the correct time when I type date from root, but
Asterisk is reporting  4 hours behind.

Example:

Aug 21 06:40:36] NOTICE[2818]: chan_echolink.c:2484 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 342 records

KA4EPS*CLI> exit

[root at KA4EPS ~]# date

Sun Aug 21 10:40:52 America/NewYork 2011

[root at KA4EPS ~]#

I think I once changed it to Central Time zone and it then became 1 hour
behind as expected if I recall correctly.

Not sure what to change here if someone could offer guidance.

I looked at system.conf and it shows TimeZone=-5.0 which would be correct.

Or am I supposed to set the system clock to GMT perhaps?

Thanks

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From ke2n at cs.com  Sun Aug 21 15:11:48 2011
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:11:48 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
In-Reply-To: <015401cc6010$45f63b90$d1e2b2b0$@net>
References: <015401cc6010$45f63b90$d1e2b2b0$@net>
Message-ID: <001b01cc6014$a6704610$f350d230$@com>

Lu - you did not say what version you are running

 

Here,  version 281 works fine

 

You say east coast time, but it's actually New_York

 

cd /etc

cp localtime localtime.orig

ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York localtime

 

Ken

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:40 AM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

 

I think there MIGHT be a bug with regards to the time zone setting for the
East Coast.

All of my nodes read the correct time when I type date from root, but
Asterisk is reporting  4 hours behind.

Example:

Aug 21 06:40:36] NOTICE[2818]: chan_echolink.c:2484 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 342 records

KA4EPS*CLI> exit

[root at KA4EPS ~]# date

Sun Aug 21 10:40:52 America/NewYork 2011

[root at KA4EPS ~]#

I think I once changed it to Central Time zone and it then became 1 hour
behind as expected if I recall correctly.

Not sure what to change here if someone could offer guidance.

I looked at system.conf and it shows TimeZone=-5.0 which would be correct.

Or am I supposed to set the system clock to GMT perhaps?

Thanks

KA4EPS

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From bote_radio at botecomm.com  Sun Aug 21 16:12:24 2011
From: bote_radio at botecomm.com (Bote Man)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:12:24 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
In-Reply-To: <001b01cc6014$a6704610$f350d230$@com>
References: <015401cc6010$45f63b90$d1e2b2b0$@net>
	<001b01cc6014$a6704610$f350d230$@com>
Message-ID: <009201cc601d$1debc310$59c34930$@com>

What's the TZ setting for whatever user account that runs Allstar? Root
can have one setting and other accounts can have other settings.

 

Bote

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Sunday, 21 August, 2011 11:12
To: 'Lu Vencl'; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

 

Lu ? you did not say what version you are running

 

Here,  version 281 works fine

 

You say east coast time, but it?s actually New_York

 

cd /etc

cp localtime localtime.orig

ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York localtime

 

Ken

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:40 AM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

 

I think there MIGHT be a bug with regards to the time zone setting for
the East Coast.

All of my nodes read the correct time when I type date from root, but
Asterisk is reporting  4 hours behind.

Example:

Aug 21 06:40:36] NOTICE[2818]: chan_echolink.c:2484 do_el_directory:
Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 342 records

KA4EPS*CLI> exit

[root at KA4EPS ~]# date

Sun Aug 21 10:40:52 America/NewYork 2011

[root at KA4EPS ~]#

I think I once changed it to Central Time zone and it then became 1 hour
behind as expected if I recall correctly.

Not sure what to change here if someone could offer guidance.

I looked at system.conf and it shows TimeZone=-5.0 which would be
correct.

Or am I supposed to set the system clock to GMT perhaps?

Thanks

KA4EPS

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From dshaw at ke6upi.com  Sun Aug 21 17:27:29 2011
From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:27:29 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM (Radio Thin Client Module) Introduction
In-Reply-To: <000001cc5f5f$ff0aee20$fd20ca60$@com>
References: <000001cc5f5f$ff0aee20$fd20ca60$@com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbLRXYnYGZ-tBE9nYk4tyFjhJ_7Ao__k7nK-L+aXYr=BNw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Mark, Is the new Voter/Simulcast board going to be on your website?

David

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Mark Guibord <mark at micro-node.com> wrote:

> We are pleased to announce the Allstar SMT Voter/Simulcast RTCM (Radio Thin
> Client Module). Many of you are familiar with Jim?s (WB6NIL) Voter project
> introduced a few months back. (https://allstarlink.org/voter.html) The
> voter project was developed to link remote receiver sites back to a
> centralized Allstar node server running voter channel driver software. The
> Voter channel driver synchronously monitors remote receivers (Via the
> Internet) and their RSSI levels and selects the strongest received signal
> for transmission over the system. ****
>
>
> The RTCM is the next generation of this voter hardware/software platform.
> The surface mount design allows for a reduced footprint of approximately 122
> x 77 x 30mm, small enough to possibly be fitted within the radio or repeater
> in which it controls. Some of the many added features include an efficient
> wide input voltage power supply (7-32 VDC),  Synchronized transmitter
> operation (Simulcast), Synchronized PL generation, DTMF decoding/Encoding
> and shielded D-Shell I/O connections. The module comes complete with an
> extruded aluminum enclosure for increased RF shielding. ****
>
> ** **
>
> The unit price is $269.00 for licensed amateurs and $369.00 for commercial
> businesses, quantity pricing available upon request. Initial production
> units will be available for shipment in late September early October time
> frame.****
>
> ** **
>
> If you are interested in a live simulcast demo of our three repeater system
> here in Las Vegas please send email to sales at micro-node.com for more
> information. ****
>
>   ****
>
> Regards,****
>
> Mark Guibord****
>
> Micro-Node International****
>
> 702-528-4700****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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From njgarbenis at gmail.com  Sun Aug 21 18:27:21 2011
From: njgarbenis at gmail.com (Neal Garbenis)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:27:21 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard/Lox
Message-ID: <88FD41C7-2010-45D7-8945-A71F2B0F5369@gmail.com>

I have a beagle board setup with the Lox board using both ports. When I use beagle tune to adjust audio it only works with port a. How change this to adjust port/node b

Neal

Sent from my iPhone

From telesistant at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 21 18:32:51 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:32:51 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard/Lox
In-Reply-To: <88FD41C7-2010-45D7-8945-A71F2B0F5369@gmail.com>
References: <88FD41C7-2010-45D7-8945-A71F2B0F5369@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W5171072FC01DC803CF66DAB12C0@phx.gbl>


chan_beagle follows the so-far consistent device specification
methodology (Asterisk CLI command) of <device-type> active <device-name> 

for chan_beagle, and your chan_beagle device named 'beagle1234'
it would be:

beagle active beagle1234

for chan_simpleusb, and your chan_simpleusb device named 'fred42'
it would be:

susb active fred42

for chan_usbradio, and your chan_usbradio device name 'usb5678'
it would be:

radio active usb5678

[since chan_usbradio did this first, I think you can see the reasoning
by which the particular syntax was chosen :-) ]

Also, you can do <device-type> active
(with no device specified) to see which is currently "active" (selected).

JIM WB6NIL


> From: njgarbenis at gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:27:21 -0400
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard/Lox
> 
> I have a beagle board setup with the Lox board using both ports. When I use beagle tune to adjust audio it only works with port a. How change this to adjust port/node b
> 
> Neal
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 21 18:34:13 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:34:13 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard/Lox
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W5171072FC01DC803CF66DAB12C0@phx.gbl>
References: <88FD41C7-2010-45D7-8945-A71F2B0F5369@gmail.com>,
	<BLU155-W5171072FC01DC803CF66DAB12C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W5103A7B46AB4FE7C8E5D12B12C0@phx.gbl>


PS. and dont forget the 'frog' command :-)

JIM

From: telesistant at hotmail.com
To: njgarbenis at gmail.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:32:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard/Lox








chan_beagle follows the so-far consistent device specification
methodology (Asterisk CLI command) of <device-type> active <device-name> 

for chan_beagle, and your chan_beagle device named 'beagle1234'
it would be:

beagle active beagle1234

for chan_simpleusb, and your chan_simpleusb device named 'fred42'
it would be:

susb active fred42

for chan_usbradio, and your chan_usbradio device name 'usb5678'
it would be:

radio active usb5678

[since chan_usbradio did this first, I think you can see the reasoning
by which the particular syntax was chosen :-) ]

Also, you can do <device-type> active
(with no device specified) to see which is currently "active" (selected).

JIM WB6NIL


> From: njgarbenis at gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:27:21 -0400
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard/Lox
> 
> I have a beagle board setup with the Lox board using both ports. When I use beagle tune to adjust audio it only works with port a. How change this to adjust port/node b
> 
> Neal
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
 		 	   		  

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From njgarbenis at gmail.com  Sun Aug 21 18:46:06 2011
From: njgarbenis at gmail.com (Neal Garbenis)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:46:06 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard/Lox
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W5171072FC01DC803CF66DAB12C0@phx.gbl>
References: <88FD41C7-2010-45D7-8945-A71F2B0F5369@gmail.com>
	<BLU155-W5171072FC01DC803CF66DAB12C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E7E9C81A-634C-418C-BF14-49AFABEF636D@gmail.com>

Thanks Jim the frog command is great :) 

Neal
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 21, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:

> chan_beagle follows the so-far consistent device specification
> methodology (Asterisk CLI command) of <device-type> active <device-name> 
> 
> for chan_beagle, and your chan_beagle device named 'beagle1234'
> it would be:
> 
> beagle active beagle1234
> 
> for chan_simpleusb, and your chan_simpleusb device named 'fred42'
> it would be:
> 
> susb active fred42
> 
> for chan_usbradio, and your chan_usbradio device name 'usb5678'
> it would be:
> 
> radio active usb5678
> 
> [since chan_usbradio did this first, I think you can see the reasoning
> by which the particular syntax was chosen :-) ]
> 
> Also, you can do <device-type> active
> (with no device specified) to see which is currently "active" (selected).
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> 
> > From: njgarbenis at gmail.com
> > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:27:21 -0400
> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagleboard/Lox
> > 
> > I have a beagle board setup with the Lox board using both ports. When I use beagle tune to adjust audio it only works with port a. How change this to adjust port/node b
> > 
> > Neal
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users


From Sysman at Xceptions.COM  Sun Aug 21 21:04:31 2011
From: Sysman at Xceptions.COM (Paul J. Agamata)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:04:31 -1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
In-Reply-To: <009201cc601d$1debc310$59c34930$@com>
References: <015401cc6010$45f63b90$d1e2b2b0$@net>
	<001b01cc6014$a6704610$f350d230$@com>,
	<009201cc601d$1debc310$59c34930$@com>
Message-ID: <74DAB7737146F54594DAA4A35E2947A701D3B4DBAA86@Helios.Xceptions.COM>

Lu, the default software configuration out of the box when you load it is Pacific time.  Ken indicated fix to move it to the eastern timezone is correct.  That will resolve your issue.

Paul

_______________________________
Paul Agamata
Sysman at Xceptions.COM
________________________________________
From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bote Man [bote_radio at botecomm.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:12 AM
To: 'Lu Vencl'; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

What's the TZ setting for whatever user account that runs Allstar? Root can have one setting and other accounts can have other settings.

Bote


From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Sunday, 21 August, 2011 11:12
To: 'Lu Vencl'; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

Lu ? you did not say what version you are running

Here,  version 281 works fine

You say east coast time, but it?s actually New_York

cd /etc
cp localtime localtime.orig
ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York localtime

Ken


From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:40 AM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

I think there MIGHT be a bug with regards to the time zone setting for the East Coast.
All of my nodes read the correct time when I type date from root, but Asterisk is reporting  4 hours behind.
Example:
Aug 21 06:40:36] NOTICE[2818]: chan_echolink.c:2484 do_el_directory: Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 342 records
KA4EPS*CLI> exit
[root at KA4EPS ~]# date
Sun Aug 21 10:40:52 America/NewYork 2011
[root at KA4EPS ~]#
I think I once changed it to Central Time zone and it then became 1 hour behind as expected if I recall correctly.
Not sure what to change here if someone could offer guidance.
I looked at system.conf and it shows TimeZone=-5.0 which would be correct.
Or am I supposed to set the system clock to GMT perhaps?
Thanks
KA4EPS


From mike at pingmonster.net  Mon Aug 22 02:03:15 2011
From: mike at pingmonster.net (Mike Ping)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:03:15 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Motor boating
Message-ID: <CAGaNJfJ8R_-ogFZG46dF93fHevzEjyUhAxzu1NokfS2cXS3g8w@mail.gmail.com>

Anybody come up with a solution to the motorboating problem?  I was
following the posts last month with interest but I don't think there was a
solution to the problem.  I had this problem a few months ago using the URI
(Version 1) on an HP DL320 (USB 2) server and figured it was a computer
issue so I did a fresh install on a HP ZE4101 (USB 1) laptop that is atleast
8 years old.  Only the URI is the common hardware piece.  It was suggested
yesterday perhaps the URI is the culprit but it seems to function otherwise
and with several reports of others having this same problem I dont think I
would blame the URI.

are only people using URIs having this problem?  are people using fobs
experincing this?

Any ideas?

Mike - N3KPU
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From jann at gmx.de  Mon Aug 22 06:20:13 2011
From: jann at gmx.de (Jann Traschewski)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:20:13 +0200
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W32C861D0879F40D9BFFE30B1290@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU155-W32C861D0879F40D9BFFE30B1290@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E51F51D.5040307@gmx.de>

On 16.08.2011 21:34, Jim Duuuude wrote:
> There is a new ACID release (new sources) available when
> you install a new version of ACID
 >
> ....
 >
> The new releases (containing the same new sources) of
> Limey Linux and Pickle (BeagleBoard) will be available soon.

I'm going to reinstall my Node this week. Will be the Update available 
at the end of the week? Will the ISO-File change?
http://dl.allstarlink.org/installcd/acid_centos.iso

73,
Jann
DG8NGN


From telesistant at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 22 10:14:11 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:14:11 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release
In-Reply-To: <4E51F51D.5040307@gmx.de>
References: <BLU155-W32C861D0879F40D9BFFE30B1290@phx.gbl>,
	<4E51F51D.5040307@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W61C2F544475CC157C16540B12F0@phx.gbl>


Its there now.. and no, the ISO file generally does not
change when a new release comes out.

JIM 

> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:20:13 +0200
> From: jann at gmx.de
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release
> 
> On 16.08.2011 21:34, Jim Duuuude wrote:
> > There is a new ACID release (new sources) available when
> > you install a new version of ACID
>  >
> > ....
>  >
> > The new releases (containing the same new sources) of
> > Limey Linux and Pickle (BeagleBoard) will be available soon.
> 
> I'm going to reinstall my Node this week. Will be the Update available 
> at the end of the week? Will the ISO-File change?
> http://dl.allstarlink.org/installcd/acid_centos.iso
> 
> 73,
> Jann
> DG8NGN
> _______________________________________________
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From vencl at att.net  Mon Aug 22 11:42:31 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:42:31 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W61C2F544475CC157C16540B12F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU155-W32C861D0879F40D9BFFE30B1290@phx.gbl>,
	<4E51F51D.5040307@gmx.de>
	<BLU155-W61C2F544475CC157C16540B12F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <02fa01cc60c0$946a3f00$bd3ebd00$@net>

I think it might be worth mentioning for those not aware, when you install
the package with an ISO that was created way back, the well written
installation script will go out and ensure the latest update, so in the end,
you will be current.

I just did an install last week and ended up with Ver 285 when complete.

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:14 AM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release

 

Its there now.. and no, the ISO file generally does not
change when a new release comes out.

JIM 

> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:20:13 +0200
> From: jann at gmx.de
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release
> 
> On 16.08.2011 21:34, Jim Duuuude wrote:
> > There is a new ACID release (new sources) available when
> > you install a new version of ACID
> >
> > ....
> >
> > The new releases (containing the same new sources) of
> > Limey Linux and Pickle (BeagleBoard) will be available soon.
> 
> I'm going to reinstall my Node this week. Will be the Update available 
> at the end of the week? Will the ISO-File change?
> http://dl.allstarlink.org/installcd/acid_centos.iso
> 
> 73,
> Jann
> DG8NGN
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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From vencl at att.net  Mon Aug 22 12:01:50 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:01:50 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Motor boating
In-Reply-To: <CAGaNJfJ8R_-ogFZG46dF93fHevzEjyUhAxzu1NokfS2cXS3g8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGaNJfJ8R_-ogFZG46dF93fHevzEjyUhAxzu1NokfS2cXS3g8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <033e01cc60c3$47909a50$d6b1cef0$@net>

I tried the URIx and same issue occurred, so I don't think it is really an
issue with the URI

Not sure what the issue is, but I am going to try the XIPAR package just to
see if anything changes as they run on Fedora. I'll report back, likely
after the hurricane passes this weekend as I will be very busy.

This only happens on any one of my 8 PC's that contain an ASUS motherboard.
I have gone to much older and slower machines (even down to 400 Mhz) and it
works just find on them. Go figure.

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Mike Ping
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:03 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Motor boating

 

Anybody come up with a solution to the motorboating problem?  I was
following the posts last month with interest but I don't think there was a
solution to the problem.  I had this problem a few months ago using the URI
(Version 1) on an HP DL320 (USB 2) server and figured it was a computer
issue so I did a fresh install on a HP ZE4101 (USB 1) laptop that is atleast
8 years old.  Only the URI is the common hardware piece.  It was suggested
yesterday perhaps the URI is the culprit but it seems to function otherwise
and with several reports of others having this same problem I dont think I
would blame the URI.  

 

are only people using URIs having this problem?  are people using fobs
experincing this?

 

Any ideas?

 

Mike - N3KPU

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From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Mon Aug 22 20:40:08 2011
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:40:08 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Motor boating
In-Reply-To: <033e01cc60c3$47909a50$d6b1cef0$@net>
References: <CAGaNJfJ8R_-ogFZG46dF93fHevzEjyUhAxzu1NokfS2cXS3g8w@mail.gmail.com>
	<033e01cc60c3$47909a50$d6b1cef0$@net>
Message-ID: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527382A41D835@X2.michiganbb.local>

I was told (off list) awhile back that with using XIPAR I should expect NOT to have the issue.
I've not taken the time yet to try it out.
Pretty sad as I'm one of the main mentoners on this list about the USB audio performance not being quite perfect. :)

I'm actually hoping to get a better hands-on understanding on what exactly *is* causing it.
And if it's really fixable or not.

I am dead set on NOT using USB for any type of production/commercial system and only because of this particular issue.
Which really is OK but I'm ever and constantly curious WHAT causes it.. and how the USB / audio subsystems all work and what can possibly
Be 'interrupting' the audio write to the usb device routine. Is the linux usb audio subsystem being used really that weak etc. etc.. or is it a DAHDI problem blahblah ..
Sorry VERY non-technical :)


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From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:02 AM
To: 'Mike Ping'; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Motor boating

I tried the URIx and same issue occurred, so I don't think it is really an issue with the URI
Not sure what the issue is, but I am going to try the XIPAR package just to see if anything changes as they run on Fedora. I'll report back, likely after the hurricane passes this weekend as I will be very busy.
This only happens on any one of my 8 PC's that contain an ASUS motherboard. I have gone to much older and slower machines (even down to 400 Mhz) and it works just find on them. Go figure.

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org]<mailto:[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org]> On Behalf Of Mike Ping
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:03 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Motor boating

Anybody come up with a solution to the motorboating problem?  I was following the posts last month with interest but I don't think there was a solution to the problem.  I had this problem a few months ago using the URI (Version 1) on an HP DL320 (USB 2) server and figured it was a computer issue so I did a fresh install on a HP ZE4101 (USB 1) laptop that is atleast 8 years old.  Only the URI is the common hardware piece.  It was suggested yesterday perhaps the URI is the culprit but it seems to function otherwise and with several reports of others having this same problem I dont think I would blame the URI.

are only people using URIs having this problem?  are people using fobs experincing this?

Any ideas?

Mike - N3KPU
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From ke2n at cs.com  Mon Aug 22 21:27:17 2011
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:27:17 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] the answer:  Time Zone issue
In-Reply-To: <CA77C4B2.6FE4%Sysman@Xceptions.COM>
References: <ACF02A15-F9E0-4B2F-994C-8C6A5B7E4CA2@att.net>
	<CA77C4B2.6FE4%Sysman@Xceptions.COM>
Message-ID: <002801cc6112$44d754d0$ce85fe70$@com>

Hmmm - that would account for 4 hours alright

Have a look at this

http://www.redhat.com/advice/tips/timezone.html

seems that there is a setting where you tell the OS what the BIOS is using.

It looks like the default on CENTOS/Asterisk is UTC=true

As the referenced article says ... this setting and your BIOS must match.

GL

Ken


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul J. Agamata [mailto:Sysman at Xceptions.COM]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:34 PM
> To: Lu Vencl
> Cc: John Boteler; Ken
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> 
> Do the conversion to UTC time, from the local time now... Is it
> correct?
> NTP's calculations are based of UTC time to you TZ.
> 
> On 8/22/11 8:01 AM, "Lu Vencl" <vencl at att.net> wrote:
> 
> >Local time. Is that not the correct way?
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone, Lu Vencl
> >
> >On Aug 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, "Paul J. Agamata" <Sysman at Xceptions.COM>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Is your BIOS time set in UTC or Local?
> >>
> >> _______________________________
> >> Paul Agamata
> >> Sysman at Xceptions.COM
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: John Boteler [bote at botecomm.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:26 AM
> >> To: 'Lu Vencl'; 'Ken'
> >> Cc: Paul J. Agamata
> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> OK, then the Allstar process must be running under some other
> account
> >>than root. This other account must have its time zone set differently
> >>than New York.
> >>
> >> Bote
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Lu Vencl [mailto:vencl at att.net]
> >> Sent: Monday, 22 August, 2011 07:54
> >> To: 'John Boteler'; 'Ken'
> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'
> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# env
> >> HOSTNAME=KA4EPS
> >> TERM=vt100
> >> SHELL=/bin/bash
> >> HISTSIZE=1000
> >> SSH_CLIENT=99.45.143.77 63835 222
> >> SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0
> >> USER=root
> >>
> >>LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01
> :cd=
> >>40;33;01:or=01;05;37;41:mi=01;05;37;41:ex=01;32:*.cmd=01;32:*.exe=01;
> 32:*
> >>.com=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.sh=01;32:*.csh=01;32:*.tar=01;31
> :*.t
> >>gz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.
> Z=01
> >>;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.cpio=0
> 1;31
> >>:*.jpg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.png=01
> ;35:
> >>*.tif=01;35:
> >> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-BIMHQ13706/agent.13706
> >> MAIL=/var/spool/mail/root
> >>
> >>PATH=/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/
> bin:
> >>/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin
> >> INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc
> >> PWD=/etc
> >> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> >> TZ=America/NewYork
> >> SHLVL=1
> >> HOME=/root
> >> LOGNAME=root
> >> CVS_RSH=ssh
> >> SSH_CONNECTION=99.45.143.77 63835 192.168.8.107 222
> >> LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s
> >> G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
> >> _=/bin/env
> >> OLDPWD=/etc
> >>
> >> From: John Boteler [mailto:bote at botecomm.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:54 AM
> >> To: 'Lu Vencl'; 'Ken'
> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'
> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> The operating system stores the time as the number of seconds since
> The
> >>Epoch. The TZ (time zone) environment variable tells applications
> what
> >>differential to apply to this system time to translate the displayed
> >>time to whatever the local time zone is desired. Different accounts
> can
> >>employ different time zones for their needs.
> >>
> >> I'm not familiar with the method of creating a link to a time zone
> >>file, which is why I suggested examining the TZ environment variable
> to
> >>see what it is set to. Just to view it with your eyeballs and see
> what
> >>it says. Who knows? Maybe the answer lies there?
> >>
> >> The command is either
> >> env
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> set
> >>
> >> It will spew out a ton of parameters, so maybe pipe it through
> >> grep TZ
> >> or 'time' or 'New York' or whatever feels good. It beats typing date
> >>over and over to find the same result, though.
> >>
> >> Bote
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Lu Vencl [mailto:vencl at att.net]
> >> Sent: Monday, 22 August, 2011 07:35
> >> To: 'Ken'
> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'; 'John Boteler'
> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> Yes,  the time reported by the date command is correct.  See below
> >>highlighted in RED.
> >> Jim announced the latest SVN a few weeks ago so that is why I have a
> >>later version. But this issue was here since day 1. Just low on my
> >>priority but would like to fix it as some point.
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Ken [mailto:ke2n at cs.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:50 AM
> >> To: 'Lu Vencl'
> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'; 'John Boteler'
> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> Interesting
> >>
> >> You have a later version than I do (mine is 281)
> >>
> >> Sure looks like the *81 routine is getting the wrong date ? but it?s
> >>not pacific time? its 4 hours difference.
> >> Is the system itself (Linux) on the right time?
> >>
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Lu Vencl [mailto:vencl at att.net]
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:39 PM
> >> To: 'Ken'
> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'; 'John Boteler'
> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> Ken,
> >> I am using Ver 285
> >>
> >> Am I doing something wrong here? See below..
> >>
> >>
> >>    -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1680839429'
> >> KA4EPS*CLI> exit
> >> [root at KA4EPS ~]# cd /etc
> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# cp localtime localtime.orig
> >> cp: overwrite `localtime.orig'? yes  <<I enter Yes here.  Tried both
> >>ways, Y and Yes
> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York
> localtime
> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# astres.sh
> >> Restarting Asterisk...
> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# asterisk -r
> >> Asterisk , Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
> >> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>
> >> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
> warranty'
> >>for details.
> >> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
> General
> >>Public
> >> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
> redistribute
> >>it under
> >> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
> >>
> >>=====================================================================
> ====
> >> Sun Aug 21 21:38:04 America/NewYork 2011
> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# asterisk -r
> >> Asterisk , Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
> >> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>
> >> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
> warranty'
> >>for details.
> >> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
> General
> >>Public
> >> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
> redistribute
> >>it under
> >> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
> >>
> >>=====================================================================
> ====
> >> Connected to Asterisk  currently running on KA4EPS (pid = 2351)
> >> Verbosity is at least 3
> >> KA4EPS*CLI> rpt fun 27869 *81
> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'rpt/goodafternoon' (language
> >>'en')
> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'rpt/thetimeis' (language
> 'en')
> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'digits/5' (language 'en')
> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'digits/30' (language 'en')
> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'digits/8' (language 'en')
> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'digits/p-m' (language 'en')
> >>    -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1336490768'
> >> KA4EPS*CLI>exit
> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# date
> >> Sun Aug 21 21:40:14 America/NewYork 2011
> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]#
> >>
> >> From: Ken [mailto:ke2n at cs.com]
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:29 PM
> >> To: 'Lu Vencl'
> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> Yeah ? is your later than mine
> >>
> >> In the standard config    *82   gets you the version number
> >>
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> From: Lu Vencl [mailto:vencl at att.net]
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:46 PM
> >> To: Ken
> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> Ken. I am running the latest svn.  Jus
> >> Sent from my iPhone, Lu Vencl
> >>
> >> On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:11 AM, "Ken"
> <ke2n at cs.com<mailto:ke2n at cs.com>>
> >>wrote:
> >> Lu ? you did not say what version you are running
> >>
> >> Here,  version 281 works fine
> >>
> >> You say east coast time, but it?s actually New_York
> >>
> >> cd /etc
> >> cp localtime localtime.orig
> >> ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York localtime
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >>
> >> From:
> >>app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-
> bounces at ohnosec.or
> >>g> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:40 AM
> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue
> >>
> >> I think there MIGHT be a bug with regards to the time zone setting
> for
> >>the East Coast.
> >> All of my nodes read the correct time when I type date from root,
> but
> >>Asterisk is reporting  4 hours behind.
> >> Example:
> >> Aug 21 06:40:36] NOTICE[2818]: chan_echolink.c:2484 do_el_directory:
> >>Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 342 records
> >> KA4EPS*CLI> exit
> >> [root at KA4EPS ~]# date
> >> Sun Aug 21 10:40:52 America/NewYork 2011
> >> [root at KA4EPS ~]#
> >> I think I once changed it to Central Time zone and it then became 1
> >>hour behind as expected if I recall correctly.
> >> Not sure what to change here if someone could offer guidance.
> >> I looked at system.conf and it shows TimeZone=-5.0 which would be
> >>correct.
> >> Or am I supposed to set the system clock to GMT perhaps?
> >> Thanks
> >> KA4EPS




From vencl at att.net  Mon Aug 22 22:55:22 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:55:22 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] the answer:  Time Zone issue
In-Reply-To: <002801cc6112$44d754d0$ce85fe70$@com>
References: <ACF02A15-F9E0-4B2F-994C-8C6A5B7E4CA2@att.net>
	<CA77C4B2.6FE4%Sysman@Xceptions.COM>
	<002801cc6112$44d754d0$ce85fe70$@com>
Message-ID: <044101cc611e$93b5a550$bb20eff0$@net>

What is odd, I just tried W4PLT's node and it is reporting correctly.

 

Here is his system.conf file

Hostname=W4PLT

ifconfig_type=dhcp

TimeZone=-5.0

 

echolinkenable=0

aprsenable=0

 

 

Last login: Mon Aug 15 20:41:48 2011

[root at W4PLT ~]# date

Mon Aug 22 18:51:51 EDT 2011

[root at W4PLT ~]# asterisk -r

Asterisk , Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.

Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>

Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show warranty' for
details.

This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU General Public

License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to redistribute it
under

certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

=========================================================================

Connected to Asterisk  currently running on W4PLT (pid = 2327)

Verbosity is at least 3

W4PLT*CLI> rpt fun 27901 *81

W4PLT*CLI> rpt fun 27901 *9041

W4PLT*CLI> rpt fun 27901 *81

    -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-2101939038'

    -- <Zap/pseudo-617879378> Playing 'rpt/goodevening' (language 'en')

    -- <Zap/pseudo-617879378> Playing 'rpt/thetimeis' (language 'en')

    -- <Zap/pseudo-617879378> Playing 'digits/6' (language 'en')

    -- <Zap/pseudo-617879378> Playing 'digits/50' (language 'en')

    -- <Zap/pseudo-617879378> Playing 'digits/2' (language 'en')

    -- <Zap/pseudo-617879378> Playing 'digits/p-m' (language 'en')

    -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-617879378'

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken [mailto:ke2n at cs.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 5:27 PM
To: 'Paul J. Agamata'; 'Lu Vencl'
Cc: 'John Boteler'; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: the answer: Time Zone issue

 

Hmmm - that would account for 4 hours alright

 

Have a look at this

 

http://www.redhat.com/advice/tips/timezone.html

 

seems that there is a setting where you tell the OS what the BIOS is using.

 

It looks like the default on CENTOS/Asterisk is UTC=true

 

As the referenced article says ... this setting and your BIOS must match.

 

GL

 

Ken

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Paul J. Agamata [mailto:Sysman at Xceptions.COM]

> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:34 PM

> To: Lu Vencl

> Cc: John Boteler; Ken

> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> 

> Do the conversion to UTC time, from the local time now... Is it

> correct?

> NTP's calculations are based of UTC time to you TZ.

> 

> On 8/22/11 8:01 AM, "Lu Vencl" <vencl at att.net> wrote:

> 

> >Local time. Is that not the correct way?

> >

> >Sent from my iPhone, Lu Vencl

> >

> >On Aug 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, "Paul J. Agamata" <Sysman at Xceptions.COM>

> >wrote:

> >

> >> Is your BIOS time set in UTC or Local?

> >>

> >> _______________________________

> >> Paul Agamata

> >> Sysman at Xceptions.COM

> >> ________________________________________

> >> From: John Boteler [bote at botecomm.com]

> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:26 AM

> >> To: 'Lu Vencl'; 'Ken'

> >> Cc: Paul J. Agamata

> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> OK, then the Allstar process must be running under some other

> account

> >>than root. This other account must have its time zone set differently

> >>than New York.

> >>

> >> Bote

> >>

> >>

> >> From: Lu Vencl [mailto:vencl at att.net]

> >> Sent: Monday, 22 August, 2011 07:54

> >> To: 'John Boteler'; 'Ken'

> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'

> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# env

> >> HOSTNAME=KA4EPS

> >> TERM=vt100

> >> SHELL=/bin/bash

> >> HISTSIZE=1000

> >> SSH_CLIENT=99.45.143.77 63835 222

> >> SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0

> >> USER=root

> >>

> >>LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01

> :cd=

> >>40;33;01:or=01;05;37;41:mi=01;05;37;41:ex=01;32:*.cmd=01;32:*.exe=01;

> 32:*

> >>.com=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.sh=01;32:*.csh=01;32:*.tar=01;31

> :*.t

> >>gz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.

> Z=01

> >>;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.cpio=0

> 1;31

> >>:*.jpg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.png=01

> ;35:

> >>*.tif=01;35:

> >> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-BIMHQ13706/agent.13706

> >> MAIL=/var/spool/mail/root

> >>

> >>PATH=/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/

> bin:

> >>/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin

> >> INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc

> >> PWD=/etc

> >> LANG=en_US.UTF-8

> >> TZ=America/NewYork

> >> SHLVL=1

> >> HOME=/root

> >> LOGNAME=root

> >> CVS_RSH=ssh

> >> SSH_CONNECTION=99.45.143.77 63835 192.168.8.107 222

> >> LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s

> >> G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1

> >> _=/bin/env

> >> OLDPWD=/etc

> >>

> >> From: John Boteler [mailto:bote at botecomm.com]

> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:54 AM

> >> To: 'Lu Vencl'; 'Ken'

> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'

> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> The operating system stores the time as the number of seconds since

> The

> >>Epoch. The TZ (time zone) environment variable tells applications

> what

> >>differential to apply to this system time to translate the displayed

> >>time to whatever the local time zone is desired. Different accounts

> can

> >>employ different time zones for their needs.

> >>

> >> I'm not familiar with the method of creating a link to a time zone

> >>file, which is why I suggested examining the TZ environment variable

> to

> >>see what it is set to. Just to view it with your eyeballs and see

> what

> >>it says. Who knows? Maybe the answer lies there?

> >>

> >> The command is either

> >> env

> >>

> >> or

> >>

> >> set

> >>

> >> It will spew out a ton of parameters, so maybe pipe it through

> >> grep TZ

> >> or 'time' or 'New York' or whatever feels good. It beats typing date

> >>over and over to find the same result, though.

> >>

> >> Bote

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> From: Lu Vencl [mailto:vencl at att.net]

> >> Sent: Monday, 22 August, 2011 07:35

> >> To: 'Ken'

> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'; 'John Boteler'

> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> Yes,  the time reported by the date command is correct.  See below

> >>highlighted in RED.

> >> Jim announced the latest SVN a few weeks ago so that is why I have a

> >>later version. But this issue was here since day 1. Just low on my

> >>priority but would like to fix it as some point.

> >>

> >>

> >> From: Ken [mailto:ke2n at cs.com]

> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:50 AM

> >> To: 'Lu Vencl'

> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'; 'John Boteler'

> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> Interesting

> >>

> >> You have a later version than I do (mine is 281)

> >>

> >> Sure looks like the *81 routine is getting the wrong date ? but it?s

> >>not pacific time? its 4 hours difference.

> >> Is the system itself (Linux) on the right time?

> >>

> >>

> >> Ken

> >>

> >>

> >> From: Lu Vencl [mailto:vencl at att.net]

> >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:39 PM

> >> To: 'Ken'

> >> Cc: 'Paul J. Agamata'; 'John Boteler'

> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> Ken,

> >> I am using Ver 285

> >>

> >> Am I doing something wrong here? See below..

> >>

> >>

> >>    -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1680839429'

> >> KA4EPS*CLI> exit

> >> [root at KA4EPS ~]# cd /etc

> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# cp localtime localtime.orig

> >> cp: overwrite `localtime.orig'? yes  <<I enter Yes here.  Tried both

> >>ways, Y and Yes

> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York

> localtime

> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# astres.sh

> >> Restarting Asterisk...

> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# asterisk -r

> >> Asterisk , Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.

> >> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>

> >> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show

> warranty'

> >>for details.

> >> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU

> General

> >>Public

> >> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to

> redistribute

> >>it under

> >> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

> >>

> >>=====================================================================

> ====

> >> Sun Aug 21 21:38:04 America/NewYork 2011

> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# asterisk -r

> >> Asterisk , Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.

> >> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>

> >> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show

> warranty'

> >>for details.

> >> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU

> General

> >>Public

> >> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to

> redistribute

> >>it under

> >> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

> >>

> >>=====================================================================

> ====

> >> Connected to Asterisk  currently running on KA4EPS (pid = 2351)

> >> Verbosity is at least 3

> >> KA4EPS*CLI> rpt fun 27869 *81

> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'rpt/goodafternoon' (language

> >>'en')

> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'rpt/thetimeis' (language

> 'en')

> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'digits/5' (language 'en')

> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'digits/30' (language 'en')

> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'digits/8' (language 'en')

> >>    -- <Zap/pseudo-1336490768> Playing 'digits/p-m' (language 'en')

> >>    -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1336490768'

> >> KA4EPS*CLI>exit

> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]# date

> >> Sun Aug 21 21:40:14 America/NewYork 2011

> >> [root at KA4EPS etc]#

> >>

> >> From: Ken [mailto:ke2n at cs.com]

> >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:29 PM

> >> To: 'Lu Vencl'

> >> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> Yeah ? is your later than mine

> >>

> >> In the standard config    *82   gets you the version number

> >>

> >>

> >> Ken

> >>

> >> From: Lu Vencl [mailto:vencl at att.net]

> >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:46 PM

> >> To: Ken

> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> Ken. I am running the latest svn.  Jus

> >> Sent from my iPhone, Lu Vencl

> >>

> >> On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:11 AM, "Ken"

> <ke2n at cs.com<mailto:ke2n at cs.com>>

> >>wrote:

> >> Lu ? you did not say what version you are running

> >>

> >> Here,  version 281 works fine

> >>

> >> You say east coast time, but it?s actually New_York

> >>

> >> cd /etc

> >> cp localtime localtime.orig

> >> ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York localtime

> >>

> >> Ken

> >>

> >>

> >> From:

> >>app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-

> bounces at ohnosec.or

> >>g> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Lu Vencl

> >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:40 AM

> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>

> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time Zone issue

> >>

> >> I think there MIGHT be a bug with regards to the time zone setting

> for

> >>the East Coast.

> >> All of my nodes read the correct time when I type date from root,

> but

> >>Asterisk is reporting  4 hours behind.

> >> Example:

> >> Aug 21 06:40:36] NOTICE[2818]: chan_echolink.c:2484 do_el_directory:

> >>Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 342 records

> >> KA4EPS*CLI> exit

> >> [root at KA4EPS ~]# date

> >> Sun Aug 21 10:40:52 America/NewYork 2011

> >> [root at KA4EPS ~]#

> >> I think I once changed it to Central Time zone and it then became 1

> >>hour behind as expected if I recall correctly.

> >> Not sure what to change here if someone could offer guidance.

> >> I looked at system.conf and it shows TimeZone=-5.0 which would be

> >>correct.

> >> Or am I supposed to set the system clock to GMT perhaps?

> >> Thanks

> >> KA4EPS

 

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From n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 24 00:52:04 2011
From: n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com (Ron Simpson)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:52:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
Message-ID: <1314147124.24760.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hello all!!
?
How many of you are familiar with the M Centracom Gold Elite dispatch console? or the MCC-7500 Series Digital Console ?
Basically the "Gold Elite" system is a big switch with some rather unique features when employed in a Trunking System... However Ham Radio is obviously conventional radio and I believe that the stuff we are playing with can be adapted to serve as a Dispatch Console talking to, cross patching with many or few Nodes (Conventional Resources). I am looking at creating a GUI that is operationally setup with config files similar to a DialPlan script. The new thin client looks very promising for this! Plus they are cheap! I talked with Micro Node today and got good vibes from Mark.

At any rate, a thin client card?can be tied to a mic, speaker and a footswitch. My concept calls for clicking an ICON on a screen, this action will automatically connect to the Node represented by by that ICON, when the footswitch is pressed, it initiates a transmission to that Node. 
?
This is all rudimentry thinking at this point.... but the flexiblitly of Asterisk and Allstar Link could make this a very doable thing!
?
I have been playing with this for only a few days, and I am impressed, pumped up and cant believe how this is such a powerfull system!
?
If anyone has thoughts, ideas or has already done it, feel free to give me a jingle!
?
I deal alot with 911 Dispatch Centers on a daily basis....
?
Those systems are very expensive when purchased new, overly expensive used and complicated, very hardware intensive and run on MS Operating Systems.... total turn off!!
?
This is a home grown solution that will cost a fraction at the most of a full commerical system from the M company.
?
Anyone interested?
?

Ron Simpson, 209?642-6559
N6GKJ Amateur Radio
...................

Have you ever noticed that when you are looking for something, 
it is always found in the last place you look?
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From w8khw1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 25 06:21:19 2011
From: w8khw1 at gmail.com (Kevin Walsh)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:21:19 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
Message-ID: <CAL=rv5Wt67bwV1mjJyW7KRAD3jP93p-YwpmPeZGsHZ3dCNbWdw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I was wondering if the next pickle image might address the random MAC
address issue. I saw there was a thread earlier on the list about this
issue, but didn't find a resolution. I have found several references
to "patches" that will correct the problem, but haven't really had
time to dive into the issue. I did try setting a static MAC in the
network config, but that didn't seem to work by itself.

The main issue I need to resolve is that I create a static NAT
translation through my firewall to the BeagleBoard (based on the IP
address). The firewall caches the MAC address associated with that IP
address in the arp table, so when the BeagleBoard is re-started (and
the MAC address changes) it will no longer work through the firewall
unless I clear the firewall's arp table.

73
Kevin
W8KHW

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Its there now.. and no, the ISO file generally does not
> change when a new release comes out.
>
> JIM
>


From kb3tbx at gmail.com  Thu Aug 25 14:51:58 2011
From: kb3tbx at gmail.com (Jim Alles)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:51:58 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
In-Reply-To: <1314147124.24760.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1314147124.24760.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABS3LnJpRRTBnhyM88UtFObneU6xwf4eHkHLhSfkGRFY3p1z2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Ron,

I am not familiar with Dispatch software.  In fact, I have yet to get my
feet wet with Asterisk.  However,  after doing a quick search upon
considering your email, I think I now know which OS / Version / GUI I am
going to start with.
Xelatec has an open-source product, with a windows client:

Client <http://www.xelatec.com/xippr/iaxrptce>

Server <http://www.xelatec.com/xippr/install>

>From the web site:

About Xelatec LLC

Xelatec (pronounced zell-ah-tek) was founded in 1999 with the mission of
using its founder's experience in wireless telecommunications to meet the
needs of a wide variety of customers. It has been involved in research and
development of new wireless products and markets, mergers and acquisitions,
corporate management and productizing Open Source Software projects.

The Xelatec IP Private Radio (XIPPR) line of products and services are the
result of Xelatec's unique, innovative combination of legacy private land
mobile PTT radio systems and 21st century wireless technologies with
Internet Protocol networks.

Contact us at:

Xelatec LLC
5805 State Bridge Road, Suite G-420
Johns Creek, Georgia 30097
Tel: +1-678-248-2979
Am I on the right track here?  comments anyone?

73,
Jim A. KB3TBX



On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Ron Simpson <n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hello all!!
>
> How many of you are familiar with the M Centracom Gold Elite dispatch
> console? or the MCC-7500 Series Digital Console ?
> Basically the "Gold Elite" system is a big switch with some rather unique
> features when employed in a Trunking System... However Ham Radio is
> obviously conventional radio and I believe that the stuff we are playing
> with can be adapted to serve as a Dispatch Console talking to, cross
> patching with many or few Nodes (Conventional Resources). I am looking at
> creating a GUI that is operationally setup with config files similar to a
> DialPlan script. The new thin client looks very promising for this! Plus
> they are cheap! I talked with Micro Node today and got good vibes from Mark.
> At any rate, a thin client card can be tied to a mic, speaker and a
> footswitch. My concept calls for clicking an ICON on a screen, this action
> will automatically connect to the Node represented by by that ICON, when the
> footswitch is pressed, it initiates a transmission to that Node.
>
> This is all rudimentry thinking at this point.... but the flexiblitly of
> Asterisk and Allstar Link could make this a very doable thing!
>
> I have been playing with this for only a few days, and I am impressed,
> pumped up and cant believe how this is such a powerfull system!
>
> If anyone has thoughts, ideas or has already done it, feel free to give me
> a jingle!
>
> I deal alot with 911 Dispatch Centers on a daily basis....
>
> Those systems are very expensive when purchased new, overly expensive used
> and complicated, very hardware intensive and run on MS Operating Systems....
> total turn off!!
>
> This is a home grown solution that will cost a fraction at the most of a
> full commerical system from the M company.
>
> Anyone interested?
>
>
> Ron Simpson, 209 642-6559
> N6GKJ Amateur Radio
> ...................
>
> Have you ever noticed that when you are looking for something,
> it is always found in the last place you look?
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 25 15:16:02 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:16:02 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
In-Reply-To: <CAL=rv5Wt67bwV1mjJyW7KRAD3jP93p-YwpmPeZGsHZ3dCNbWdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL=rv5Wt67bwV1mjJyW7KRAD3jP93p-YwpmPeZGsHZ3dCNbWdw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W192AEE294A469A6BB186B8B1100@phx.gbl>


This "somewhat misfeature" of Pickle (or at least the Ubuntu distro) was
never intended. However when it was first pointed out to me a realized
how much of an incredible blessing in disguise it was.

The reason being is: Threre is NEVER, EVER, EVER, *ANY* reason 
why ANYONE should trust a "toy" router to even accurately keep track of
much less observe static DHCP bindings. That is *JUST NOT* an acceptable
way of assigning a "static" LAN IP address.

Routers that allegedly support this "feature" (boy that's being nice) generally
don't very well and/or stably. I have had NOTHING BUT HEADACHES over
the year when people attempt to do this. PLEASE, DONT LET IT HAPPEN
TO YOU.

Just assign a *REAL*static LAN IP on the Pickle system. Use the netsetup
script if you arent comfortable with editing files in the Ubuntu distro. Assign
a LAN IP address that is outside the range that the router assigns DHCP
addresses. Sometimes, in rare cases, some routers will, by default
use the entire LAN range for assigning DHCP address. If so you
will need to configure the router to change this behavior, and "create"
a range of LAN addresses outside the routers range of DHCP addresses.

Believe me, this small amount of extra work when setting up a system
TOTALLY is worthwhile and WILL save you some major grief in the future.

JIM WB6NIL

> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:21:19 -0400
> From: w8khw1 at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if the next pickle image might address the random MAC
> address issue. I saw there was a thread earlier on the list about this
> issue, but didn't find a resolution. I have found several references
> to "patches" that will correct the problem, but haven't really had
> time to dive into the issue. I did try setting a static MAC in the
> network config, but that didn't seem to work by itself.
> 
> The main issue I need to resolve is that I create a static NAT
> translation through my firewall to the BeagleBoard (based on the IP
> address). The firewall caches the MAC address associated with that IP
> address in the arp table, so when the BeagleBoard is re-started (and
> the MAC address changes) it will no longer work through the firewall
> unless I clear the firewall's arp table.
> 
> 73
> Kevin
> W8KHW
> 
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Its there now.. and no, the ISO file generally does not
> > change when a new release comes out.
> >
> > JIM
> >
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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Thu Aug 25 15:26:53 2011
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan Boyle)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:26:53 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
In-Reply-To: <CABS3LnJpRRTBnhyM88UtFObneU6xwf4eHkHLhSfkGRFY3p1z2Q@mail.gmail.com>
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depends on what y'all are trying to do.

i get along just fine running an acid load with the iaxrpt client for the occasional connection from my office desktop.  but, then, not doing life safety where access, control, and capabilities are critical; if my system goes down it's a matter of pride rather than necessity. 

my own opinion? KISS principal.  if you want to run a full bore pbx voip system and radio control package...then you will probably need more than the acid package will provide, and probably more than XIPPR can provide.  

to me, fancy interfaces and complex scripts supporting arcane config files are an unneeded level of complexity.  but, the great thing about open source is that we can both take divergent paths to get to the same destination.  

KISS, though, reigns supreme. 

--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone
please forgive misspellings...



On Aug 25, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Jim Alles <kb3tbx at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ron,
>  
> I am not familiar with Dispatch software.  In fact, I have yet to get my feet wet with Asterisk.  However,  after doing a quick search upon considering your email, I think I now know which OS / Version / GUI I am going to start with.
> Xelatec has an open-source product, with a windows client:
>  
> Client
>  
> Server
>  
> From the web site:
>  
> About Xelatec LLC
> Xelatec (pronounced zell-ah-tek) was founded in 1999 with the mission of using its founder's experience in wireless telecommunications to meet the needs of a wide variety of customers. It has been involved in research and development of new wireless products and markets, mergers and acquisitions, corporate management and productizing Open Source Software projects.
> 
> The Xelatec IP Private Radio (XIPPR) line of products and services are the result of Xelatec's unique, innovative combination of legacy private land mobile PTT radio systems and 21st century wireless technologies with Internet Protocol networks.
> 
> Contact us at:
> 
> Xelatec LLC
> 5805 State Bridge Road, Suite G-420
> Johns Creek, Georgia 30097
> Tel: +1-678-248-2979
> 
> Am I on the right track here?  comments anyone?
>  
> 73,
> Jim A. KB3TBX
>  
> 
>  
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Ron Simpson <n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello all!!
>  
> How many of you are familiar with the M Centracom Gold Elite dispatch console? or the MCC-7500 Series Digital Console ?
> Basically the "Gold Elite" system is a big switch with some rather unique features when employed in a Trunking System... However Ham Radio is obviously conventional radio and I believe that the stuff we are playing with can be adapted to serve as a Dispatch Console talking to, cross patching with many or few Nodes (Conventional Resources). I am looking at creating a GUI that is operationally setup with config files similar to a DialPlan script. The new thin client looks very promising for this! Plus they are cheap! I talked with Micro Node today and got good vibes from Mark.
> At any rate, a thin client card can be tied to a mic, speaker and a footswitch. My concept calls for clicking an ICON on a screen, this action will automatically connect to the Node represented by by that ICON, when the footswitch is pressed, it initiates a transmission to that Node.
>  
> This is all rudimentry thinking at this point.... but the flexiblitly of Asterisk and Allstar Link could make this a very doable thing!
>  
> I have been playing with this for only a few days, and I am impressed, pumped up and cant believe how this is such a powerfull system!
>  
> If anyone has thoughts, ideas or has already done it, feel free to give me a jingle!
>  
> I deal alot with 911 Dispatch Centers on a daily basis....
>  
> Those systems are very expensive when purchased new, overly expensive used and complicated, very hardware intensive and run on MS Operating Systems.... total turn off!!
>  
> This is a home grown solution that will cost a fraction at the most of a full commerical system from the M company.
>  
> Anyone interested?
>  
> 
> Ron Simpson, 209 642-6559
> N6GKJ Amateur Radio
> ...................
> 
> Have you ever noticed that when you are looking for something, 
> it is always found in the last place you look?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
> 
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 25 15:29:11 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:29:11 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
In-Reply-To: <76A8161C-4F89-4CD7-8DE4-C43450F4C0D2@bdboyle.com>
References: <1314147124.24760.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>,
	<CABS3LnJpRRTBnhyM88UtFObneU6xwf4eHkHLhSfkGRFY3p1z2Q@mail.gmail.com>,
	<76A8161C-4F89-4CD7-8DE4-C43450F4C0D2@bdboyle.com>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W450A7E527EAF209092E3F7B1100@phx.gbl>


"KISS, though, reigns supreme. "

Yeah!!! -- Gene Simmons forever!!!! :-)

JIM

From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:26:53 -0500
To: kb3tbx at gmail.com
CC: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation

depends on what y'all are trying to do.
i get along just fine running an acid load with the iaxrpt client for the occasional connection from my office desktop.  but, then, not doing life safety where access, control, and capabilities are critical; if my system goes down it's a matter of pride rather than necessity. 
my own opinion? KISS principal.  if you want to run a full bore pbx voip system and radio control package...then you will probably need more than the acid package will provide, and probably more than XIPPR can provide.  
to me, fancy interfaces and complex scripts supporting arcane config files are an unneeded level of complexity.  but, the great thing about open source is that we can both take divergent paths to get to the same destination.  
KISS, though, reigns supreme. 

--BryanSent from my iPhoneplease forgive misspellings...


On Aug 25, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Jim Alles <kb3tbx at gmail.com> wrote:

Ron,
 
I am not familiar with Dispatch software.  In fact, I have yet to get my feet wet with Asterisk.  However,  after doing a quick search upon considering your email, I think I now know which OS / Version / GUI I am going to start with.


Xelatec has an open-source product, with a windows client:
 
Client
 
Server
 
>From the web site:
 
About Xelatec LLC



Xelatec (pronounced zell-ah-tek) was founded in 1999 with the mission of using its founder's experience in wireless telecommunications to meet the needs of a wide variety of customers. It has been involved in research and development of new wireless products and markets, mergers and acquisitions, corporate management and productizing Open Source Software projects.

The Xelatec IP Private Radio (XIPPR) line of products and services are the result of Xelatec's unique, innovative combination of legacy private land mobile PTT radio systems and 21st century wireless technologies with Internet Protocol networks.

Contact us at:
Xelatec LLC
5805 State Bridge Road, Suite G-420
Johns Creek, Georgia 30097
Tel: +1-678-248-2979
Am I on the right track here?  comments anyone?
 
73,
Jim A. KB3TBX
 

 
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Ron Simpson <n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com> wrote:






Hello all!!
 
How many of you are familiar with the M Centracom Gold Elite dispatch console? or the MCC-7500 Series Digital Console ?
Basically the "Gold Elite" system is a big switch with some rather unique features when employed in a Trunking System... However Ham Radio is obviously conventional radio and I believe that the stuff we are playing with can be adapted to serve as a Dispatch Console talking to, cross patching with many or few Nodes (Conventional Resources). I am looking at creating a GUI that is operationally setup with config files similar to a DialPlan script. The new thin client looks very promising for this! Plus they are cheap! I talked with Micro Node today and got good vibes from Mark.


At any rate, a thin client card can be tied to a mic, speaker and a footswitch. My concept calls for clicking an ICON on a screen, this action will automatically connect to the Node represented by by that ICON, when the footswitch is pressed, it initiates a transmission to that Node. 

 
This is all rudimentry thinking at this point.... but the flexiblitly of Asterisk and Allstar Link could make this a very doable thing!
 
I have been playing with this for only a few days, and I am impressed, pumped up and cant believe how this is such a powerfull system!
 
If anyone has thoughts, ideas or has already done it, feel free to give me a jingle!
 
I deal alot with 911 Dispatch Centers on a daily basis....
 
Those systems are very expensive when purchased new, overly expensive used and complicated, very hardware intensive and run on MS Operating Systems.... total turn off!!
 
This is a home grown solution that will cost a fraction at the most of a full commerical system from the M company.
 
Anyone interested?
 

Ron Simpson, 209 642-6559
N6GKJ Amateur Radio
...................

Have you ever noticed that when you are looking for something, 

it is always found in the last place you look?
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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Thu Aug 25 15:35:28 2011
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan Boyle)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:35:28 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
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and, i was going to add, if you can't do it with vi, awk, and sed scripts...it's probably not worth doing...

--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone
please forgive misspellings...



On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:

> "KISS, though, reigns supreme. "
> 
> Yeah!!! -- Gene Simmons forever!!!! :-)
> 
> JIM
> 
> From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com
> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:26:53 -0500
> To: kb3tbx at gmail.com
> CC: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
> 
> depends on what y'all are trying to do.
> 
> i get along just fine running an acid load with the iaxrpt client for the occasional connection from my office desktop.  but, then, not doing life safety where access, control, and capabilities are critical; if my system goes down it's a matter of pride rather than necessity. 
> 
> my own opinion? KISS principal.  if you want to run a full bore pbx voip system and radio control package...then you will probably need more than the acid package will provide, and probably more than XIPPR can provide.  
> 
> to me, fancy interfaces and complex scripts supporting arcane config files are an unneeded level of complexity.  but, the great thing about open source is that we can both take divergent paths to get to the same destination.  
> 
> KISS, though, reigns supreme. 
> 
> --
> Bryan
> Sent from my iPhone
> please forgive misspellings...
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Jim Alles <kb3tbx at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ron,
>  
> I am not familiar with Dispatch software.  In fact, I have yet to get my feet wet with Asterisk.  However,  after doing a quick search upon considering your email, I think I now know which OS / Version / GUI I am going to start with.
> Xelatec has an open-source product, with a windows client:
>  
> Client
>  
> Server
>  
> From the web site:
>  
> About Xelatec LLC
> Xelatec (pronounced zell-ah-tek) was founded in 1999 with the mission of using its founder's experience in wireless telecommunications to meet the needs of a wide variety of customers. It has been involved in research and development of new wireless products and markets, mergers and acquisitions, corporate management and productizing Open Source Software projects.
> The Xelatec IP Private Radio (XIPPR) line of products and services are the result of Xelatec's unique, innovative combination of legacy private land mobile PTT radio systems and 21st century wireless technologies with Internet Protocol networks.
> Contact us at:
> Xelatec LLC
> 5805 State Bridge Road, Suite G-420
> Johns Creek, Georgia 30097
> Tel: +1-678-248-2979
> Am I on the right track here?  comments anyone?
>  
> 73,
> Jim A. KB3TBX
>  
> 
>  
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Ron Simpson <n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello all!!
>  
> How many of you are familiar with the M Centracom Gold Elite dispatch console? or the MCC-7500 Series Digital Console ?
> Basically the "Gold Elite" system is a big switch with some rather unique features when employed in a Trunking System... However Ham Radio is obviously conventional radio and I believe that the stuff we are playing with can be adapted to serve as a Dispatch Console talking to, cross patching with many or few Nodes (Conventional Resources). I am looking at creating a GUI that is operationally setup with config files similar to a DialPlan script. The new thin client looks very promising for this! Plus they are cheap! I talked with Micro Node today and got good vibes from Mark.
> At any rate, a thin client card can be tied to a mic, speaker and a footswitch. My concept calls for clicking an ICON on a screen, this action will automatically connect to the Node represented by by that ICON, when the footswitch is pressed, it initiates a transmission to that Node.
>  
> This is all rudimentry thinking at this point.... but the flexiblitly of Asterisk and Allstar Link could make this a very doable thing!
>  
> I have been playing with this for only a few days, and I am impressed, pumped up and cant believe how this is such a powerfull system!
>  
> If anyone has thoughts, ideas or has already done it, feel free to give me a jingle!
>  
> I deal alot with 911 Dispatch Centers on a daily basis....
>  
> Those systems are very expensive when purchased new, overly expensive used and complicated, very hardware intensive and run on MS Operating Systems.... total turn off!!
>  
> This is a home grown solution that will cost a fraction at the most of a full commerical system from the M company.
>  
> Anyone interested?
>  
> 
> Ron Simpson, 209 642-6559
> N6GKJ Amateur Radio
> ...................
> 
> Have you ever noticed that when you are looking for something, 
> it is always found in the last place you look?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From vencl at att.net  Thu Aug 25 18:00:27 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:00:27 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Shoutcast streaming
Message-ID: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>

Anyone ever install shoutcast onto an Allstar node? I want to take a
specific node  on my server and stream.

Any direction would be appreciated.

Thanks

Lu, KA4EPS

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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 25 18:09:43 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:09:43 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Shoutcast streaming
In-Reply-To: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>
References: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W54BFC0C6EF2E9AFCBB1A3BB1100@phx.gbl>


yes.. actually there is a whole set of docs/files and some sorta other stuff
that we got working about 2 or 3 years ago..

Unless anyone who dealt with it can remember or knows [someone chime in please...]
I can go try to dig whatever it was up and figure out what it was.

But there is some sort of magic we put into app_rpt and there was some other stuff
to make all that work.

JIM

[There are parts of this project that I intentionally don't pay much attention to (after successful
implementation). It's about the only way to deal with something this complex.]


From: vencl at att.net
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:00:27 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Shoutcast streaming
















Anyone ever install shoutcast onto an Allstar node? I want
to take a specific node  on my server and stream.

Any direction would be appreciated.

Thanks

Lu, KA4EPS







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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Thu Aug 25 18:23:24 2011
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan Boyle)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:23:24 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Shoutcast streaming
In-Reply-To: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>
References: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>
Message-ID: <DEEA2262-3450-4A13-91B9-468878D603B2@bdboyle.com>

easiest way is to take an old ht or mobile tuned to output of your machine, take earphone output as audio input to an old xp machine running the shoutcast server/winamp combo. 

seriously.  been running both services for years.  don't overthink it, with all the issues you seem to have with some of your boxes, adding another daemon to configure may be a recipe for issues, Lu. 

--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone
please forgive misspellings...



On Aug 25, 2011, at 1:00 PM, "Lu Vencl" <vencl at att.net> wrote:

> Anyone ever install shoutcast onto an Allstar node? I want to take a specific node  on my server and stream.
> 
> Any direction would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Lu, KA4EPS
> 
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From brian at kastar.org  Thu Aug 25 18:43:33 2011
From: brian at kastar.org (Brian Kassa)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:43:33 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
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Ron,

I have been having the very same thoughts for quite a while.  I am an old
dispatcher from way back and tend to still think this way.  There are a
number of IP Dispatch Consoles on the commercial market today.  This enables
1-n people to access a 1-n radio channels across an IP bearer.  There are
many added functions that would enable cross patching of channels and other
neat features.  Having this functionality as part of our solution would
enable many very interesting use cases.   Here is what I would do in my
community with this functionality:

1.  I have an Emergency Operations Center (EOC) in a valley with several
multi-channel Remote Bases 2500 feet above on a tall mountain.  They are
currently controlled via link radios and DTMF.  If I add these to Asterisk
then I can have full control via IP from the EOC or the mobile EOC.  I need
simultaneous access to these channels.

2.  in the same area we have a very large Search and Rescue Community that
has in-town resources that coordinate resourcing for the field across
several different radio channels.  If i add these to Asterisk then those
in-town resources can monitor the field operations and communicate across
several different radio channels.

3.  I would like to take the new developments for voting receivers and place
these through out the area to listen for 121.5 ELT, EPIRB and PLB signals in
areas that we have routine turnoffs like small airports and fishing boat
terminals.  A dispatch console application gives me immediate access to many
receivers so that I can instantly know which channel.  I would also use this
to monitor the various channels in a voting system to determine location....

4.  An EOC  is typically in the basement with the radios on the roof.  A
cheap dispatch console cleans ups the EOC from an appearance and operational
perspective and allows the radios to be in another room, on the roof or on a
mountain top.

5.  We create a mutli-channel network that runs all the way around Mount
Rainer each July for a ugly bike event (10,000 of elevation gain).  This is
on a 4 channel network with two net control operators.  This means I need 8
radios in base camp to support the event.  I can reduce this to 4 with a
proper dispatch application and app-rpt.

The current application handles 1 channel.  In my use cases I typically need
2-5 channels.  You can buy this type of solution all day long for tens of
thousands of dollars from commercial vendors.  These are all low budget
volunteer run operations so funding is paramount.  Most of this is
Commercial so All-Star is not an option for linking.

Best Regards,

Brian
KD4WAV
Snoqualmie EOC Support Team
King County Search and Rescue

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Ron Simpson <n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello all!!
>
> How many of you are familiar with the M Centracom Gold Elite dispatch
> console? or the MCC-7500 Series Digital Console ?
> Basically the "Gold Elite" system is a big switch with some rather unique
> features when employed in a Trunking System... However Ham Radio is
> obviously conventional radio and I believe that the stuff we are playing
> with can be adapted to serve as a Dispatch Console talking to, cross
> patching with many or few Nodes (Conventional Resources). I am looking at
> creating a GUI that is operationally setup with config files similar to a
> DialPlan script. The new thin client looks very promising for this! Plus
> they are cheap! I talked with Micro Node today and got good vibes from Mark.
> At any rate, a thin client card can be tied to a mic, speaker and a
> footswitch. My concept calls for clicking an ICON on a screen, this action
> will automatically connect to the Node represented by by that ICON, when the
> footswitch is pressed, it initiates a transmission to that Node.
>
> This is all rudimentry thinking at this point.... but the flexiblitly of
> Asterisk and Allstar Link could make this a very doable thing!
>
> I have been playing with this for only a few days, and I am impressed,
> pumped up and cant believe how this is such a powerfull system!
>
> If anyone has thoughts, ideas or has already done it, feel free to give me
> a jingle!
>
> I deal alot with 911 Dispatch Centers on a daily basis....
>
> Those systems are very expensive when purchased new, overly expensive used
> and complicated, very hardware intensive and run on MS Operating Systems....
> total turn off!!
>
> This is a home grown solution that will cost a fraction at the most of a
> full commerical system from the M company.
>
> Anyone interested?
>
>
> Ron Simpson, 209 642-6559
> N6GKJ Amateur Radio
> ...................
>
> Have you ever noticed that when you are looking for something,
> it is always found in the last place you look?
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ke2n at cs.com  Thu Aug 25 21:45:11 2011
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:45:11 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Shoutcast streaming
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W54BFC0C6EF2E9AFCBB1A3BB1100@phx.gbl>
References: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>
	<BLU155-W54BFC0C6EF2E9AFCBB1A3BB1100@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003d01cc6370$4412c6f0$cc3854d0$@com>

Well - there is this:

 

http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2010-June/001094.html

 

you need a command (exactly) like this one in your rpt.conf

 

outstreamcmd=/bin/sh,-c,/usr/bin/lame --preset cbr 16 -r -m m -s 8.0
--bitwidth 16 - -  | /usr/bin/ezstream -c /etc/ezstream.xml

 

then there is file  /etc/ezstream.xml

where you need to fill in the URL and password of your stream server 

 

Mine uses IceCast not ShoutCast.  Where exactly this distinction resides is
unknown (by me) but maybe Jim will remember.

 

GL

 

Ken

 

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:10 PM
To: vencl at att.net; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Shoutcast streaming

 

yes.. actually there is a whole set of docs/files and some sorta other stuff
that we got working about 2 or 3 years ago..

Unless anyone who dealt with it can remember or knows [someone chime in
please...]
I can go try to dig whatever it was up and figure out what it was.

But there is some sort of magic we put into app_rpt and there was some other
stuff
to make all that work.

JIM

[There are parts of this project that I intentionally don't pay much
attention to (after successful
implementation). It's about the only way to deal with something this
complex.]



  _____  

From: vencl at att.net
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:00:27 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Shoutcast streaming

Anyone ever install shoutcast onto an Allstar node? I want to take a
specific node  on my server and stream.

Any direction would be appreciated.

Thanks

Lu, KA4EPS


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From bote_radio at botecomm.com  Fri Aug 26 00:57:58 2011
From: bote_radio at botecomm.com (Bote Man)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:57:58 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] where is hostname stored
In-Reply-To: <003d01cc6370$4412c6f0$cc3854d0$@com>
References: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>
	<BLU155-W54BFC0C6EF2E9AFCBB1A3BB1100@phx.gbl>
	<003d01cc6370$4412c6f0$cc3854d0$@com>
Message-ID: <010601cc638b$344c6e90$9ce54bb0$@com>

I have issued my last grep for the distinctive name that I set with the
'hostname' command and throw myself at the mercy of the *nix wizards.
The name that I set is not stored in /etc/sysconfig/network, not stored
in /etc/hosts, it just exists in the ether apparently.

 

Now I find out that the hostname used by Allstar is stored in
/etc/asterisk/system.conf (IIRC) which remained untouched, of course.

 

I've just got to know now, even though it seems that things are sort of
working OK after an initial hiccup.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Bote

W4NUD

 

 <http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio> http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio
? my hobby radio pages

 

 <http://www.trackstreamer.com/> http://www.trackstreamer.com ? my
streaming scanner feeds

 

http://ialerts1.com  ? hobbyist alerting network w/maps

 

 

 

 

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From ke2n at cs.com  Fri Aug 26 01:10:29 2011
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:10:29 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] where is hostname stored
In-Reply-To: <010601cc638b$344c6e90$9ce54bb0$@com>
References: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>	<BLU155-W54BFC0C6EF2E9AFCBB1A3BB1100@phx.gbl>	<003d01cc6370$4412c6f0$cc3854d0$@com>
	<010601cc638b$344c6e90$9ce54bb0$@com>
Message-ID: <001701cc638c$f28d75b0$d7a86110$@com>

There was discussion about this in Jan 2010 . (thanks google)

 

I do not know if it is related to your question, but I want the Host name to
show up on my router.

 

For that to happen, I had to change the host name in:

 

etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

 

and re-boot.

 

GL

Ken

 

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bote Man
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:58 PM
To: 'Jim Duuuude'; 'app_rpt mailing list'
Subject: [App_rpt-users] where is hostname stored

 

I have issued my last grep for the distinctive name that I set with the
'hostname' command and throw myself at the mercy of the *nix wizards. The
name that I set is not stored in /etc/sysconfig/network, not stored in
/etc/hosts, it just exists in the ether apparently.

 

Now I find out that the hostname used by Allstar is stored in
/etc/asterisk/system.conf (IIRC) which remained untouched, of course.

 

I've just got to know now, even though it seems that things are sort of
working OK after an initial hiccup.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Bote

W4NUD

 

http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio - my hobby radio pages

 

http://www.trackstreamer.com <http://www.trackstreamer.com/>  - my streaming
scanner feeds

 

http://ialerts1.com  - hobbyist alerting network w/maps

 

 

 

 

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From bote_radio at botecomm.com  Fri Aug 26 01:40:35 2011
From: bote_radio at botecomm.com (Bote Man)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:40:35 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] where is hostname stored
In-Reply-To: <001701cc638c$f28d75b0$d7a86110$@com>
References: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>
	<BLU155-W54BFC0C6EF2E9AFCBB1A3BB1100@phx.gbl>
	<003d01cc6370$4412c6f0$cc3854d0$@com>
	<010601cc638b$344c6e90$9ce54bb0$@com>
	<001701cc638c$f28d75b0$d7a86110$@com>
Message-ID: <011401cc6391$28426770$78c73650$@com>

Nope. But that is yet another place that his callsign is properly stored
as the hostname.

 

I guess this was Linus' attempt at making linux more bullet-proof, store
the hostname in 2,891,253 places so it can't get lost.

 

Bote

 

 

From: Ken [mailto:ke2n at cs.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2011 21:10
To: 'Bote Man'; 'Jim Duuuude'; 'app_rpt mailing list'
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] where is hostname stored

 

There was discussion about this in Jan 2010 ? (thanks google)

 

I do not know if it is related to your question, but I want the Host
name to show up on my router.

 

For that to happen, I had to change the host name in:

 

etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

 

and re-boot.

 

GL

Ken

 

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bote Man
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:58 PM
To: 'Jim Duuuude'; 'app_rpt mailing list'
Subject: [App_rpt-users] where is hostname stored

 

I have issued my last grep for the distinctive name that I set with the
'hostname' command and throw myself at the mercy of the *nix wizards.
The name that I set is not stored in /etc/sysconfig/network, not stored
in /etc/hosts, it just exists in the ether apparently.

 

Now I find out that the hostname used by Allstar is stored in
/etc/asterisk/system.conf (IIRC) which remained untouched, of course.

 

I've just got to know now, even though it seems that things are sort of
working OK after an initial hiccup.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Bote

W4NUD

 

http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio ? my hobby radio pages

 

http://www.trackstreamer.com <http://www.trackstreamer.com/>  ? my
streaming scanner feeds

 

http://ialerts1.com  ? hobbyist alerting network w/maps

 

 

 

 

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From kb3tbx at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 02:53:17 2011
From: kb3tbx at gmail.com (Jim Alles)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:53:17 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
In-Reply-To: <6B51765B-68A8-4ACF-8640-624D7CD2040B@bdboyle.com>
References: <1314147124.24760.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<CABS3LnJpRRTBnhyM88UtFObneU6xwf4eHkHLhSfkGRFY3p1z2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<76A8161C-4F89-4CD7-8DE4-C43450F4C0D2@bdboyle.com>
	<BLU155-W450A7E527EAF209092E3F7B1100@phx.gbl>
	<6B51765B-68A8-4ACF-8640-624D7CD2040B@bdboyle.com>
Message-ID: <CABS3LnK6hF0O5MHjJNx+96QtqCNfM19eg6t6Z2ZORXREcyF1BA@mail.gmail.com>

I get the command line thing, but dude, you've been doing unix too long! ;)

Rock On!
For me, I just want something real to do with Asterisk as a hobby - taking
apart someone elses stuff is as good a place as any to jump in!

.ja.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Bryan Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com> wrote:

>  and, i was going to add, if you can't do it with vi, awk, and sed
> scripts...it's probably not worth doing...
>
>
> --
> Bryan
> Sent from my iPhone
> please forgive misspellings...
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>   "KISS, though, reigns supreme. "
>
> Yeah!!! -- Gene Simmons forever!!!! :-)
>
> JIM
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com
> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:26:53 -0500
> To: kb3tbx at gmail.com
> CC: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
>
> depends on what y'all are trying to do.
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From w8khw1 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 05:01:42 2011
From: w8khw1 at gmail.com (Kevin Walsh)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:01:42 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W192AEE294A469A6BB186B8B1100@phx.gbl>
References: <CAL=rv5Wt67bwV1mjJyW7KRAD3jP93p-YwpmPeZGsHZ3dCNbWdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU155-W192AEE294A469A6BB186B8B1100@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAL=rv5V+2zH8PfQKtdAAfz0uNN58uxS1iWhUGdpO1QKdUE=6zw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jim,

Thanks as always for the timely response.

My requirement has nothing to do with DHCP. I believe that was the
problem from the earlier post I mentioned, but that's not the problem
herre.

My BeagleBoard configuration is using a static IP address, the content
 /etc/network/interfaces is posted below:

#Static IP configuration
auto lo
auto usb0
iface lo inet loopback
iface usb0 inet static
address 172.22.32.132
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 172.22.32.1


(Note - I attempted to add the hwaddress tag to force a fixed mac
address, but id didn't work.)

The problem is that when the mac address of a device changes, the
content of the arp table on my firewall can no longer talk to the
BeagleBoard - because the MAC address changed. (IP address equals MAC
address in arp lookup table, right?) If I clear the arp table on the
firewall and then attempt to contact the BeagleBoard at the above
static IP address, it will learn the new MAC address and associate the
new MAC with the static IP. That all works fine until the BeagleBoard
is re-started for whatever reason - and the whole problem above starts
again.

I would hate to have to put the BeagleBoard outside the firewall and
dedicate a static routable IP address to just this device.

Hope that helps explain the problem.

73,
Kevin
W8KHW



On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> This "somewhat misfeature" of Pickle (or at least the Ubuntu distro) was
> never intended. However when it was first pointed out to me a realized
> how much of an incredible blessing in disguise it was.
>
> The reason being is: Threre is NEVER, EVER, EVER, *ANY* reason
> why ANYONE should trust a "toy" router to even accurately keep track of
> much less observe static DHCP bindings. That is *JUST NOT* an acceptable
> way of assigning a "static" LAN IP address.
>
> Routers that allegedly support this "feature" (boy that's being nice)
> generally
> don't very well and/or stably. I have had NOTHING BUT HEADACHES over
> the year when people attempt to do this. PLEASE, DONT LET IT HAPPEN
> TO YOU.
>
> Just assign a *REAL*static LAN IP on the Pickle system. Use the netsetup
> script if you arent comfortable with editing files in the Ubuntu distro.
> Assign
> a LAN IP address that is outside the range that the router assigns DHCP
> addresses. Sometimes, in rare cases, some routers will, by default
> use the entire LAN range for assigning DHCP address. If so you
> will need to configure the router to change this behavior, and "create"
> a range of LAN addresses outside the routers range of DHCP addresses.
>
> Believe me, this small amount of extra work when setting up a system
> TOTALLY is worthwhile and WILL save you some major grief in the future.
>
> JIM WB6NIL
>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:21:19 -0400
>> From: w8khw1 at gmail.com
>> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was wondering if the next pickle image might address the random MAC
>> address issue. I saw there was a thread earlier on the list about this
>> issue, but didn't find a resolution. I have found several references
>> to "patches" that will correct the problem, but haven't really had
>> time to dive into the issue. I did try setting a static MAC in the
>> network config, but that didn't seem to work by itself.
>>
>> The main issue I need to resolve is that I create a static NAT
>> translation through my firewall to the BeagleBoard (based on the IP
>> address). The firewall caches the MAC address associated with that IP
>> address in the arp table, so when the BeagleBoard is re-started (and
>> the MAC address changes) it will no longer work through the firewall
>> unless I clear the firewall's arp table.
>>
>> 73
>> Kevin
>> W8KHW
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Its there now.. and no, the ISO file generally does not
>> > change when a new release comes out.
>> >
>> > JIM
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>


From hkwilliamson at gmail.com  Fri Aug 26 05:51:56 2011
From: hkwilliamson at gmail.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:51:56 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
In-Reply-To: <CAL=rv5V+2zH8PfQKtdAAfz0uNN58uxS1iWhUGdpO1QKdUE=6zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL=rv5Wt67bwV1mjJyW7KRAD3jP93p-YwpmPeZGsHZ3dCNbWdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU155-W192AEE294A469A6BB186B8B1100@phx.gbl>
	<CAL=rv5V+2zH8PfQKtdAAfz0uNN58uxS1iWhUGdpO1QKdUE=6zw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFweeiT88yV1czbUv__Uyo11w4zKt_tqOdj_LRt0J96X+ebcmw@mail.gmail.com>

You might consider writing a simple script that issues a "gratuitous" arp to
the router and run it in rc.local (or equivalent).

Cheers,

Keith
KF7DRV
Allstar: 2541

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Kevin Walsh <w8khw1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> Thanks as always for the timely response.
>
> My requirement has nothing to do with DHCP. I believe that was the
> problem from the earlier post I mentioned, but that's not the problem
> herre.
>
> My BeagleBoard configuration is using a static IP address, the content
>  /etc/network/interfaces is posted below:
>
> #Static IP configuration
> auto lo
> auto usb0
> iface lo inet loopback
> iface usb0 inet static
> address 172.22.32.132
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 172.22.32.1
>
>
> (Note - I attempted to add the hwaddress tag to force a fixed mac
> address, but id didn't work.)
>
> The problem is that when the mac address of a device changes, the
> content of the arp table on my firewall can no longer talk to the
> BeagleBoard - because the MAC address changed. (IP address equals MAC
> address in arp lookup table, right?) If I clear the arp table on the
> firewall and then attempt to contact the BeagleBoard at the above
> static IP address, it will learn the new MAC address and associate the
> new MAC with the static IP. That all works fine until the BeagleBoard
> is re-started for whatever reason - and the whole problem above starts
> again.
>
> I would hate to have to put the BeagleBoard outside the firewall and
> dedicate a static routable IP address to just this device.
>
> Hope that helps explain the problem.
>
> 73,
> Kevin
> W8KHW
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > This "somewhat misfeature" of Pickle (or at least the Ubuntu distro) was
> > never intended. However when it was first pointed out to me a realized
> > how much of an incredible blessing in disguise it was.
> >
> > The reason being is: Threre is NEVER, EVER, EVER, *ANY* reason
> > why ANYONE should trust a "toy" router to even accurately keep track of
> > much less observe static DHCP bindings. That is *JUST NOT* an acceptable
> > way of assigning a "static" LAN IP address.
> >
> > Routers that allegedly support this "feature" (boy that's being nice)
> > generally
> > don't very well and/or stably. I have had NOTHING BUT HEADACHES over
> > the year when people attempt to do this. PLEASE, DONT LET IT HAPPEN
> > TO YOU.
> >
> > Just assign a *REAL*static LAN IP on the Pickle system. Use the netsetup
> > script if you arent comfortable with editing files in the Ubuntu distro.
> > Assign
> > a LAN IP address that is outside the range that the router assigns DHCP
> > addresses. Sometimes, in rare cases, some routers will, by default
> > use the entire LAN range for assigning DHCP address. If so you
> > will need to configure the router to change this behavior, and "create"
> > a range of LAN addresses outside the routers range of DHCP addresses.
> >
> > Believe me, this small amount of extra work when setting up a system
> > TOTALLY is worthwhile and WILL save you some major grief in the future.
> >
> > JIM WB6NIL
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:21:19 -0400
> >> From: w8khw1 at gmail.com
> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I was wondering if the next pickle image might address the random MAC
> >> address issue. I saw there was a thread earlier on the list about this
> >> issue, but didn't find a resolution. I have found several references
> >> to "patches" that will correct the problem, but haven't really had
> >> time to dive into the issue. I did try setting a static MAC in the
> >> network config, but that didn't seem to work by itself.
> >>
> >> The main issue I need to resolve is that I create a static NAT
> >> translation through my firewall to the BeagleBoard (based on the IP
> >> address). The firewall caches the MAC address associated with that IP
> >> address in the arp table, so when the BeagleBoard is re-started (and
> >> the MAC address changes) it will no longer work through the firewall
> >> unless I clear the firewall's arp table.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Kevin
> >> W8KHW
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Its there now.. and no, the ISO file generally does not
> >> > change when a new release comes out.
> >> >
> >> > JIM
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From dshaw at ke6upi.com  Fri Aug 26 14:09:31 2011
From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:09:31 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Console Operation
In-Reply-To: <1314147124.24760.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1314147124.24760.YahooMailClassic@web125902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbKZ-gb+8LjQA=RG2c3N84ucoX8XZo+nBrf+VbsvV7TDSw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All, I think Ron wanted something to control the radio and have a
separate node (hub) with a microphone and speaker. There are so many ideas
that are great out there.


You can use the built in asterisk manager API.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+API

You can use C++, Perl, PHP, Java or just about anything to write it in.

A web page:
I would like to see a web page with a local web-transceiver so you can use
the built in Mic and Speakers on your computer. Maybe a drag and drop icons
to connect nodes. Look at the panel page of FreePBX. The client could be
anything that can run Java. (WOW We have the web-transceiver already.)

USB PicoDisplay: Simple
I was thinking of using a USB Pico display with buttons to send commands to
asterisk. (asterisk -rx "rpt fun XXXX *3XXXX")

http://www.mini-box.com/picoLCD-256x64-Sideshow-CDROM-Bay

Like I said there are so many great ideas for so many possibilities.

I would like to say, let race begin. But lets get some ideas first. I'm not
a programmer but I think I can work with php and bash.

David

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Ron Simpson <n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello all!!
>
> How many of you are familiar with the M Centracom Gold Elite dispatch
> console? or the MCC-7500 Series Digital Console ?
> Basically the "Gold Elite" system is a big switch with some rather unique
> features when employed in a Trunking System... However Ham Radio is
> obviously conventional radio and I believe that the stuff we are playing
> with can be adapted to serve as a Dispatch Console talking to, cross
> patching with many or few Nodes (Conventional Resources). I am looking at
> creating a GUI that is operationally setup with config files similar to a
> DialPlan script. The new thin client looks very promising for this! Plus
> they are cheap! I talked with Micro Node today and got good vibes from Mark.
> At any rate, a thin client card can be tied to a mic, speaker and a
> footswitch. My concept calls for clicking an ICON on a screen, this action
> will automatically connect to the Node represented by by that ICON, when the
> footswitch is pressed, it initiates a transmission to that Node.
>
> This is all rudimentry thinking at this point.... but the flexiblitly of
> Asterisk and Allstar Link could make this a very doable thing!
>
> I have been playing with this for only a few days, and I am impressed,
> pumped up and cant believe how this is such a powerfull system!
>
> If anyone has thoughts, ideas or has already done it, feel free to give me
> a jingle!
>
> I deal alot with 911 Dispatch Centers on a daily basis....
>
> Those systems are very expensive when purchased new, overly expensive used
> and complicated, very hardware intensive and run on MS Operating Systems....
> total turn off!!
>
> This is a home grown solution that will cost a fraction at the most of a
> full commerical system from the M company.
>
> Anyone interested?
>
>
> Ron Simpson, 209 642-6559
> N6GKJ Amateur Radio
> ...................
>
> Have you ever noticed that when you are looking for something,
> it is always found in the last place you look?
>
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From dshaw at ke6upi.com  Fri Aug 26 14:29:53 2011
From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:29:53 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] where is hostname stored
In-Reply-To: <010601cc638b$344c6e90$9ce54bb0$@com>
References: <063701cc6350$df6abe70$9e403b50$@net>
	<BLU155-W54BFC0C6EF2E9AFCBB1A3BB1100@phx.gbl>
	<003d01cc6370$4412c6f0$cc3854d0$@com>
	<010601cc638b$344c6e90$9ce54bb0$@com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbJahhsA5KkdH5fm-W7q6Ftptrws6yANcG4CXADUogKX0g@mail.gmail.com>

To change the hostname in ACID.
edit /etc/sysconfig/network
change or add HOSTNAME=

To have it show up in your rounter if your using DCHP:
edit /etc/sysconfig/network-
scripts/ifcfg-eth0
change or add DHCP_HOSTNAME=

Also you should edit /etc/hosts and add you hostname here to faster lookup.

You can also use google to search CentOS Hostname and other things.

David


On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Bote Man <bote_radio at botecomm.com> wrote:

> I have issued my last grep for the distinctive name that I set with the
> 'hostname' command and throw myself at the mercy of the *nix wizards. The
> name that I set is not stored in /etc/sysconfig/network, not stored in
> /etc/hosts, it just exists in the ether apparently.****
>
> ** **
>
> Now I find out that the hostname used by Allstar is stored in
> /etc/asterisk/system.conf (IIRC) which remained untouched, of course.****
>
> ** **
>
> I've just got to know now, even though it seems that things are sort of
> working OK after an initial hiccup.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Bote****
>
> W4NUD****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio ? my hobby radio pages****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.trackstreamer.com ? my streaming scanner feeds****
>
> ** **
>
> http://ialerts1.com  ? hobbyist alerting network w/maps****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 26 17:48:16 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:48:16 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
In-Reply-To: <CAL=rv5V+2zH8PfQKtdAAfz0uNN58uxS1iWhUGdpO1QKdUE=6zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL=rv5Wt67bwV1mjJyW7KRAD3jP93p-YwpmPeZGsHZ3dCNbWdw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU155-W192AEE294A469A6BB186B8B1100@phx.gbl>,
	<CAL=rv5V+2zH8PfQKtdAAfz0uNN58uxS1iWhUGdpO1QKdUE=6zw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W1306EAB60071BEDE511BE4B1130@phx.gbl>


well, for the moment, why dont you try a script that
does:

arping -U -c2 172.22.32.132

Or at least try it on a machine that has changed its MAC address and see if this
fixes it.

Please let me know.

JIM

> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:01:42 -0400
> From: w8khw1 at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Thanks as always for the timely response.
> 
> My requirement has nothing to do with DHCP. I believe that was the
> problem from the earlier post I mentioned, but that's not the problem
> herre.
> 
> My BeagleBoard configuration is using a static IP address, the content
>  /etc/network/interfaces is posted below:
> 
> #Static IP configuration
> auto lo
> auto usb0
> iface lo inet loopback
> iface usb0 inet static
> address 172.22.32.132
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 172.22.32.1
> 
> 
> (Note - I attempted to add the hwaddress tag to force a fixed mac
> address, but id didn't work.)
> 
> The problem is that when the mac address of a device changes, the
> content of the arp table on my firewall can no longer talk to the
> BeagleBoard - because the MAC address changed. (IP address equals MAC
> address in arp lookup table, right?) If I clear the arp table on the
> firewall and then attempt to contact the BeagleBoard at the above
> static IP address, it will learn the new MAC address and associate the
> new MAC with the static IP. That all works fine until the BeagleBoard
> is re-started for whatever reason - and the whole problem above starts
> again.
> 
> I would hate to have to put the BeagleBoard outside the firewall and
> dedicate a static routable IP address to just this device.
> 
> Hope that helps explain the problem.
> 
> 73,
> Kevin
> W8KHW
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > This "somewhat misfeature" of Pickle (or at least the Ubuntu distro) was
> > never intended. However when it was first pointed out to me a realized
> > how much of an incredible blessing in disguise it was.
> >
> > The reason being is: Threre is NEVER, EVER, EVER, *ANY* reason
> > why ANYONE should trust a "toy" router to even accurately keep track of
> > much less observe static DHCP bindings. That is *JUST NOT* an acceptable
> > way of assigning a "static" LAN IP address.
> >
> > Routers that allegedly support this "feature" (boy that's being nice)
> > generally
> > don't very well and/or stably. I have had NOTHING BUT HEADACHES over
> > the year when people attempt to do this. PLEASE, DONT LET IT HAPPEN
> > TO YOU.
> >
> > Just assign a *REAL*static LAN IP on the Pickle system. Use the netsetup
> > script if you arent comfortable with editing files in the Ubuntu distro.
> > Assign
> > a LAN IP address that is outside the range that the router assigns DHCP
> > addresses. Sometimes, in rare cases, some routers will, by default
> > use the entire LAN range for assigning DHCP address. If so you
> > will need to configure the router to change this behavior, and "create"
> > a range of LAN addresses outside the routers range of DHCP addresses.
> >
> > Believe me, this small amount of extra work when setting up a system
> > TOTALLY is worthwhile and WILL save you some major grief in the future.
> >
> > JIM WB6NIL
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:21:19 -0400
> >> From: w8khw1 at gmail.com
> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I was wondering if the next pickle image might address the random MAC
> >> address issue. I saw there was a thread earlier on the list about this
> >> issue, but didn't find a resolution. I have found several references
> >> to "patches" that will correct the problem, but haven't really had
> >> time to dive into the issue. I did try setting a static MAC in the
> >> network config, but that didn't seem to work by itself.
> >>
> >> The main issue I need to resolve is that I create a static NAT
> >> translation through my firewall to the BeagleBoard (based on the IP
> >> address). The firewall caches the MAC address associated with that IP
> >> address in the arp table, so when the BeagleBoard is re-started (and
> >> the MAC address changes) it will no longer work through the firewall
> >> unless I clear the firewall's arp table.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Kevin
> >> W8KHW
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Its there now.. and no, the ISO file generally does not
> >> > change when a new release comes out.
> >> >
> >> > JIM
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 26 17:49:12 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:49:12 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W1306EAB60071BEDE511BE4B1130@phx.gbl>
References: <CAL=rv5Wt67bwV1mjJyW7KRAD3jP93p-YwpmPeZGsHZ3dCNbWdw@mail.gmail.com>,
	, <BLU155-W192AEE294A469A6BB186B8B1100@phx.gbl>, ,
	<CAL=rv5V+2zH8PfQKtdAAfz0uNN58uxS1iWhUGdpO1QKdUE=6zw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU155-W1306EAB60071BEDE511BE4B1130@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W13A93837C4B5C18FA2E381B1130@phx.gbl>


you might also have to include -I usb0 in the comand line
if that doesnt work

From: telesistant at hotmail.com
To: w8khw1 at gmail.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:48:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address








well, for the moment, why dont you try a script that
does:

arping -U -c2 172.22.32.132

Or at least try it on a machine that has changed its MAC address and see if this
fixes it.

Please let me know.

JIM

> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:01:42 -0400
> From: w8khw1 at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Thanks as always for the timely response.
> 
> My requirement has nothing to do with DHCP. I believe that was the
> problem from the earlier post I mentioned, but that's not the problem
> herre.
> 
> My BeagleBoard configuration is using a static IP address, the content
>  /etc/network/interfaces is posted below:
> 
> #Static IP configuration
> auto lo
> auto usb0
> iface lo inet loopback
> iface usb0 inet static
> address 172.22.32.132
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 172.22.32.1
> 
> 
> (Note - I attempted to add the hwaddress tag to force a fixed mac
> address, but id didn't work.)
> 
> The problem is that when the mac address of a device changes, the
> content of the arp table on my firewall can no longer talk to the
> BeagleBoard - because the MAC address changed. (IP address equals MAC
> address in arp lookup table, right?) If I clear the arp table on the
> firewall and then attempt to contact the BeagleBoard at the above
> static IP address, it will learn the new MAC address and associate the
> new MAC with the static IP. That all works fine until the BeagleBoard
> is re-started for whatever reason - and the whole problem above starts
> again.
> 
> I would hate to have to put the BeagleBoard outside the firewall and
> dedicate a static routable IP address to just this device.
> 
> Hope that helps explain the problem.
> 
> 73,
> Kevin
> W8KHW
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > This "somewhat misfeature" of Pickle (or at least the Ubuntu distro) was
> > never intended. However when it was first pointed out to me a realized
> > how much of an incredible blessing in disguise it was.
> >
> > The reason being is: Threre is NEVER, EVER, EVER, *ANY* reason
> > why ANYONE should trust a "toy" router to even accurately keep track of
> > much less observe static DHCP bindings. That is *JUST NOT* an acceptable
> > way of assigning a "static" LAN IP address.
> >
> > Routers that allegedly support this "feature" (boy that's being nice)
> > generally
> > don't very well and/or stably. I have had NOTHING BUT HEADACHES over
> > the year when people attempt to do this. PLEASE, DONT LET IT HAPPEN
> > TO YOU.
> >
> > Just assign a *REAL*static LAN IP on the Pickle system. Use the netsetup
> > script if you arent comfortable with editing files in the Ubuntu distro.
> > Assign
> > a LAN IP address that is outside the range that the router assigns DHCP
> > addresses. Sometimes, in rare cases, some routers will, by default
> > use the entire LAN range for assigning DHCP address. If so you
> > will need to configure the router to change this behavior, and "create"
> > a range of LAN addresses outside the routers range of DHCP addresses.
> >
> > Believe me, this small amount of extra work when setting up a system
> > TOTALLY is worthwhile and WILL save you some major grief in the future.
> >
> > JIM WB6NIL
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:21:19 -0400
> >> From: w8khw1 at gmail.com
> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] New ACID release - BeagleBoard MAC Address
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I was wondering if the next pickle image might address the random MAC
> >> address issue. I saw there was a thread earlier on the list about this
> >> issue, but didn't find a resolution. I have found several references
> >> to "patches" that will correct the problem, but haven't really had
> >> time to dive into the issue. I did try setting a static MAC in the
> >> network config, but that didn't seem to work by itself.
> >>
> >> The main issue I need to resolve is that I create a static NAT
> >> translation through my firewall to the BeagleBoard (based on the IP
> >> address). The firewall caches the MAC address associated with that IP
> >> address in the arp table, so when the BeagleBoard is re-started (and
> >> the MAC address changes) it will no longer work through the firewall
> >> unless I clear the firewall's arp table.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Kevin
> >> W8KHW
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Its there now.. and no, the ISO file generally does not
> >> > change when a new release comes out.
> >> >
> >> > JIM
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
 		 	   		  

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From kb3hjc at gmail.com  Sat Aug 27 21:59:06 2011
From: kb3hjc at gmail.com (Randy Ballard)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:59:06 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DTMF an Parallel question
Message-ID: <CAG1rJ_5LBiwAL7BBYeKpMnSTFVNyzQjF=RYPbnDTGbsy10qipw@mail.gmail.com>

I was wondering if there is a way to get DTMF to pass on the local
node/repeater and if not is it something that could be easily added?
An ideal thing would be have a key that would unmute pass the tones like
#1234 so 1245 would be passed

One other thing that I am looking for has anyone done anything with the
Parallel port as an input. What I would like to do is when the site is
running on generator I have a logic line that goes high and would like the
repeater to say a message like every 15 minutes while the generator is
running?



Thanks



-- 
Randy
KB3HJC <http://kb3hjc.net>
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From njgarbenis at gmail.com  Sat Aug 27 23:03:31 2011
From: njgarbenis at gmail.com (Neal Garbenis)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:03:31 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DTMF an Parallel question
In-Reply-To: <CAG1rJ_5LBiwAL7BBYeKpMnSTFVNyzQjF=RYPbnDTGbsy10qipw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG1rJ_5LBiwAL7BBYeKpMnSTFVNyzQjF=RYPbnDTGbsy10qipw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EBEE8499-1374-4F3A-BC30-8FB7B9263791@gmail.com>

If you add this in rpt.conf the node will pass dtmf

propagate_dtmf = yes


Neal
Ng8y

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 27, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Randy Ballard <kb3hjc at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was wondering if there is a way to get DTMF to pass on the local node/repeater and if not is it something that could be easily added?
> An ideal thing would be have a key that would unmute pass the tones like #1234 so 1245 would be passed
> 
> One other thing that I am looking for has anyone done anything with the Parallel port as an input. What I would like to do is when the site is running on generator I have a logic line that goes high and would like the repeater to say a message like every 15 minutes while the generator is running? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Randy 
> KB3HJC
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From a.errington at lancaster.ac.uk  Sun Aug 28 11:58:41 2011
From: a.errington at lancaster.ac.uk (Andrew Errington)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:58:41 +0900
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DTMF an Parallel question
In-Reply-To: <CAG1rJ_5LBiwAL7BBYeKpMnSTFVNyzQjF=RYPbnDTGbsy10qipw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG1rJ_5LBiwAL7BBYeKpMnSTFVNyzQjF=RYPbnDTGbsy10qipw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201108282058.41694.a.errington@lancaster.ac.uk>

On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:59:06 Randy Ballard wrote:
<snip>
> One other thing that I am looking for has anyone done anything with the
> Parallel port as an input. What I would like to do is when the site is
> running on generator I have a logic line that goes high and would like the
> repeater to say a message like every 15 minutes while the generator is
> running?

Have you looked at NUT?

http://www.networkupstools.org/

NUT is an existing set of tools for monitoring UPS and backup power supplies, 
with a mechanism for distributing the status to client apps.  Can you hook 
your generator up to a serial port (it seems that NUT monitors a serial line) 
and then get app_rpt to poll NUT status?

73,

Andrew


From keith at handscombe.co.uk  Sun Aug 28 20:31:21 2011
From: keith at handscombe.co.uk (Keith)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:31:21 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DTMF
Message-ID: <000001cc65c1$72d2e8a0$5878b9e0$@co.uk>

Hi all,

 

Since the split from IRLP I now run 2 pc workstations side by side the first
an IRLP node the second an All-Star node. I have added the *52 to *59
shortcuts on my DTMF functionality but would like to know if I can have a
similar system to IRLP of which is to help the older users of my links who
find the DTMF key presses hard to complete. An older gentleman today
licensed  back in August 1949 tried for almost an hour to press *3300 then
the Echo link node and ended up ringing me and asking me to connect for him.
As he was unkeying the microphone after each sent tone so showing him 2 key
tones would be such a benefit for all.

 

I have 25 regular connections that if the older folk are to use I would like
to replicate *1 to *9 for Echo-Link stations and #1 to #9 for All-Star
stations this would allow me to publish or print off 30-50 help sheets for
regular users of my nodes deliver to the addresses and offer a simple demo
that they would be able to cope with.

 

 

 

Any help would be most appreciated

 

Many thanks

 

Keith

 

G7DNT / M0XON

 

IRLP: 5503

Echo link: 5503

 

All-Star 2498 & 27333 

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From tim.sawyer at me.com  Sun Aug 28 22:36:37 2011
From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:36:37 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DTMF
In-Reply-To: <000001cc65c1$72d2e8a0$5878b9e0$@co.uk>
References: <000001cc65c1$72d2e8a0$5878b9e0$@co.uk>
Message-ID: <B1AF2616-FAA0-4574-9EDC-B77192327EBA@me.com>

It's not likely that that will ever happen for at least two reasons. If you used *1 to *9 for Echolink connect you'd have no commands left for anything else. Second reason is that # is reserved for certain Allstar functions. 

Maybe you would consider putting EchoLink on your IRLP box and remove it from Asterisk. As I recall the standard EchoIRLP connect is just the node number and for EchoLink it's * + the node number. 73 to disconnect either. That's pretty simple as is, but I think you can set up shortcuts like the ones you want. I don't think you would need the disconnect shortcuts as 73 is pretty short already, and easy to remember too. 

One advantage of EchoIRLP is that prevents users from inadvertently cross connecting EchoIRLP and IRLP, something I assume your current setup will allow. The IRLP guys may ban you for that. The IRLP guys don't like Allstar either but I gather you already knew that. 

An internet search for echoirlp will provide details. The Micro-Node guy is one alternative if you didn't care to hack it yourself. 
--
Tim
:wq

On Aug 28, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Keith wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> Since the split from IRLP I now run 2 pc workstations side by side the first an IRLP node the second an All-Star node. I have added the *52 to *59 shortcuts on my DTMF functionality but would like to know if I can have a similar system to IRLP of which is to help the older users of my links who find the DTMF key presses hard to complete. An older gentleman today licensed  back in August 1949 tried for almost an hour to press *3300 then the Echo link node and ended up ringing me and asking me to connect for him.  As he was unkeying the microphone after each sent tone so showing him 2 key tones would be such a benefit for all.
>  
> I have 25 regular connections that if the older folk are to use I would like to replicate *1 to *9 for Echo-Link stations and #1 to #9 for All-Star stations this would allow me to publish or print off 30-50 help sheets for regular users of my nodes deliver to the addresses and offer a simple demo that they would be able to cope with.
>  
>  
>  
> Any help would be most appreciated
>  
> Many thanks
>  
> Keith
>  
> G7DNT / M0XON
>  
> IRLP: 5503
> Echo link: 5503
>  
> All-Star 2498 & 27333
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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From vencl at att.net  Mon Aug 29 18:03:50 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:03:50 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
Message-ID: <000301cc6676$01bb2dc0$05318940$@net>

Howdy all,

I had an incident that occurred several nights ago where one user
unbenounced to him cross connected the WINSYSTEM and VOIPWX net together in
the middle of the night. No matter how many times I try to explain this
caution to users, they still on occasion make the error as one of the
distant node might be connected to another network and it is not readily
visible to the user of another node.

I would like to know if there are any provisions to help prevent this from
happening.

For example a rule that would that if 2560 is connected, no connections to
2135 and or 3007203 (echolink node) would be allowed to be connected if
there is any presence from any of the nodes tied in.

I am just trying to proactively stop this from happening at least with the
nodes I allow public access to.

Thanks

Lu

Ka4EPS

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From vk3jed at vkradio.com  Mon Aug 29 23:17:44 2011
From: vk3jed at vkradio.com (Tony Langdon, VK3JED)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:17:44 +1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
In-Reply-To: <000301cc6676$01bb2dc0$05318940$@net>
References: <000301cc6676$01bb2dc0$05318940$@net>
Message-ID: <4e5c1e1f.04bfec0a.46c7.3e46@mx.google.com>

At 04:03 AM 8/30/2011, Lu Vencl wrote:
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>         boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01CC6654.7AA98DC0"
>Content-Language: en-us
>
>Howdy all,
>I had an incident that occurred several nights ago where one user 
>unbenounced to him cross connected the WINSYSTEM and VOIPWX net 
>together in the middle of the night. No matter how many times I try 
>to explain this caution to users, they still on occasion make the 
>error as one of the distant node might be connected to another 
>network and it is not readily visible to the user of another node.
>I would like to know if there are any provisions to help prevent 
>this from happening.
>For example a rule that would that if 2560 is connected, no 
>connections to 2135 and or 3007203 (echolink node) would be allowed 
>to be connected if there is any presence from any of the nodes tied in.
>I am just trying to proactively stop this from happening at least 
>with the nodes I allow public access to.

Is it possible to have the Echolink "CONF" flag set when connected to 
Echolink and some other system, or more than one Echolink node at the 
same time?  This will at least allow Echolink conferences with 
anti-conferencing measures to disconnect such accidental cross links 
automatically.  The best behaviour would be to emulate the behaviour 
of the Windows Echolink client in this respect.

If connected to one station, the CONF flag is not set, even if the 
node has the ability to accept other connections.

If connected to more than one station, the CONF flag is set, and the 
node acts as a mini conference server.

One thing that would be different to Echolink is the need to 
recognise non Echolink connections as a "connection" for this purpose.

Certainly, something to prevent this happening at the node level is 
best for the proactive node admin.

Reminds me, I must pull my finger out and setup my node. :)

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



From bote_radio at botecomm.com  Tue Aug 30 00:15:53 2011
From: bote_radio at botecomm.com (Bote Man)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:15:53 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
In-Reply-To: <4e5c1e1f.04bfec0a.46c7.3e46@mx.google.com>
References: <000301cc6676$01bb2dc0$05318940$@net>
	<4e5c1e1f.04bfec0a.46c7.3e46@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <010d01cc66a9$fc0c9150$f425b3f0$@com>

As a newbie who has barely scratched the surface of understanding
Allstar, I find it next to impossible to trace every last node that is
connected together. 

I know there is the graphical node link list, and while it shows what
the possibilities are I find it too unwieldy for practical, regular use.

For example, I view Lu's node status web page and it might show 5 nodes
connected. I click on each one of those only to find a couple other
connections on each one. There must be an automated way to determine the
sum total of all nodes that happen to be connected together to form a
network at that instant. I just don't know what it is, if it even exists
now.

Being able to aggregate this information seems like the first step in
developing a watchdog that prevents ring-around-the-rosy loops.

That's my 0.000002 cents worth.


Bote, W4NUD
http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio ? my hobby radio pages
http://www.trackstreamer.com ? my streaming scanner feeds
http://ialerts1.com ? hobbyist incident alerting network w/maps



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Langdon, VK3JED
> Sent: Monday, 29 August, 2011 19:18
> 
> At 04:03 AM 8/30/2011, Lu Vencl wrote:
> >I had an incident that occurred several nights ago where one user
> >unbenounced to him cross connected the WINSYSTEM and VOIPWX net
> >together in the middle of the night. No matter how many times I try
> >to explain this caution to users, they still on occasion make the
> >error as one of the distant node might be connected to another
> >network and it is not readily visible to the user of another node.
> >I would like to know if there are any provisions to help prevent
> >this from happening.
> 
> Is it possible to have the Echolink "CONF" flag set when connected to
> Echolink and some other system, or more than one Echolink node at the
> same time?  This will at least allow Echolink conferences with
> anti-conferencing measures to disconnect such accidental cross links
> automatically.  The best behaviour would be to emulate the behaviour
> of the Windows Echolink client in this respect.
> 
> 
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users



From tim.sawyer at me.com  Tue Aug 30 01:21:04 2011
From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:21:04 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
In-Reply-To: <010d01cc66a9$fc0c9150$f425b3f0$@com>
References: <000301cc6676$01bb2dc0$05318940$@net>
	<4e5c1e1f.04bfec0a.46c7.3e46@mx.google.com>
	<010d01cc66a9$fc0c9150$f425b3f0$@com>
Message-ID: <789AE846-D2EF-4D64-876C-D30F333E5A71@me.com>

Try this URL. Change the number after the question mark to the node of your interest.

http://stats.allstarlink.org/getstatus.cgi?2530

--
Tim
:wq

On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Bote Man wrote:

> As a newbie who has barely scratched the surface of understanding
> Allstar, I find it next to impossible to trace every last node that is
> connected together. 
> 
> I know there is the graphical node link list, and while it shows what
> the possibilities are I find it too unwieldy for practical, regular use.
> 
> For example, I view Lu's node status web page and it might show 5 nodes
> connected. I click on each one of those only to find a couple other
> connections on each one. There must be an automated way to determine the
> sum total of all nodes that happen to be connected together to form a
> network at that instant. I just don't know what it is, if it even exists
> now.
> 
> Being able to aggregate this information seems like the first step in
> developing a watchdog that prevents ring-around-the-rosy loops.
> 
> That's my 0.000002 cents worth.
> 
> 
> Bote, W4NUD
> http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio ? my hobby radio pages
> http://www.trackstreamer.com ? my streaming scanner feeds
> http://ialerts1.com ? hobbyist incident alerting network w/maps
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony Langdon, VK3JED
>> Sent: Monday, 29 August, 2011 19:18
>> 
>> At 04:03 AM 8/30/2011, Lu Vencl wrote:
>>> I had an incident that occurred several nights ago where one user
>>> unbenounced to him cross connected the WINSYSTEM and VOIPWX net
>>> together in the middle of the night. No matter how many times I try
>>> to explain this caution to users, they still on occasion make the
>>> error as one of the distant node might be connected to another
>>> network and it is not readily visible to the user of another node.
>>> I would like to know if there are any provisions to help prevent
>>> this from happening.
>> 
>> Is it possible to have the Echolink "CONF" flag set when connected to
>> Echolink and some other system, or more than one Echolink node at the
>> same time?  This will at least allow Echolink conferences with
>> anti-conferencing measures to disconnect such accidental cross links
>> automatically.  The best behaviour would be to emulate the behaviour
>> of the Windows Echolink client in this respect.
>> 
>> 
>> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
>> http://vkradio.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From vencl at att.net  Tue Aug 30 10:51:49 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 06:51:49 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
In-Reply-To: <789AE846-D2EF-4D64-876C-D30F333E5A71@me.com>
References: <000301cc6676$01bb2dc0$05318940$@net>	<4e5c1e1f.04bfec0a.46c7.3e46@mx.google.com>	<010d01cc66a9$fc0c9150$f425b3f0$@com>
	<789AE846-D2EF-4D64-876C-D30F333E5A71@me.com>
Message-ID: <074001cc6702$d2dd5d60$78981820$@net>

Thanks Tim. That really helps out lots!

-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:21 PM
To: app_rpt list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?

Try this URL. Change the number after the question mark to the node of your
interest.

http://stats.allstarlink.org/getstatus.cgi?2530

--
Tim
:wq

On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Bote Man wrote:

> As a newbie who has barely scratched the surface of understanding
> Allstar, I find it next to impossible to trace every last node that is
> connected together. 
> 
> I know there is the graphical node link list, and while it shows what
> the possibilities are I find it too unwieldy for practical, regular use.
> 
> For example, I view Lu's node status web page and it might show 5 nodes
> connected. I click on each one of those only to find a couple other
> connections on each one. There must be an automated way to determine the
> sum total of all nodes that happen to be connected together to form a
> network at that instant. I just don't know what it is, if it even exists
> now.
> 
> Being able to aggregate this information seems like the first step in
> developing a watchdog that prevents ring-around-the-rosy loops.
> 
> That's my 0.000002 cents worth.
> 
> 
> Bote, W4NUD
> http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio - my hobby radio pages
> http://www.trackstreamer.com - my streaming scanner feeds
> http://ialerts1.com - hobbyist incident alerting network w/maps
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony Langdon, VK3JED
>> Sent: Monday, 29 August, 2011 19:18
>> 
>> At 04:03 AM 8/30/2011, Lu Vencl wrote:
>>> I had an incident that occurred several nights ago where one user
>>> unbenounced to him cross connected the WINSYSTEM and VOIPWX net
>>> together in the middle of the night. No matter how many times I try
>>> to explain this caution to users, they still on occasion make the
>>> error as one of the distant node might be connected to another
>>> network and it is not readily visible to the user of another node.
>>> I would like to know if there are any provisions to help prevent
>>> this from happening.
>> 
>> Is it possible to have the Echolink "CONF" flag set when connected to
>> Echolink and some other system, or more than one Echolink node at the
>> same time?  This will at least allow Echolink conferences with
>> anti-conferencing measures to disconnect such accidental cross links
>> automatically.  The best behaviour would be to emulate the behaviour
>> of the Windows Echolink client in this respect.
>> 
>> 
>> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
>> http://vkradio.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
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From wb3awj at comcast.net  Tue Aug 30 12:36:28 2011
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff WB3AWJ)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:36:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
In-Reply-To: <074001cc6702$d2dd5d60$78981820$@net>
Message-ID: <753465461.952945.1314707788501.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>



In the watchdog script you could issue this command : 

asterisk -r -x "rpt showvars <NODE>" (where <NODE> is you node number of course, and include the quotation marks) 



Doing this with my node?connected to 2135 gives this result: 



Variable listing for node 27783:?? 
RPT_TXKEYED=0?? 
RPT_NUMLINKS=34 
RPT_LINKS=34,TW3SBA,T2135,T8701,T27296,T2122,T27356,T27262,T27349,T2121,T27355,T27261,T27348,T2377,T27657,T27658,T27690,T27354,T27258,T27499,T27701,T27572,T27372,T27373,T2341,T27854,T2242,T27653,T27702,T27672,T2300,T27635,T27470,T27665,T27266 
RPT_NUMALINKS=2?? 
RPT_ALINKS=2,W3SBATU,2135TU?? 
RPT_ETXKEYED=0?? 
RPT_RXKEYED=0?? 
RPT_AUTOPATCHUP=0??? 
-- 8 variables 


Which could be parsed for the node number that you want to reject. 



Then within?the output of : asterisk -r -x "rpt stats <NODE>" the last DTMF command executed is shown. 

For example : 

?************************ NODE 27783 STATISTICS ************************* 

Selected system state............................: 0 
Signal on input..................................: NO 
System...........................................: ENABLED 
Parrot Mode......................................: DISABLED 
Scheduler........................................: ENABLED 
Tail Time........................................: STANDARD 
Time out timer...................................: ENABLED 
Incoming connections.............................: ENABLED 
Time out timer state.............................: RESET 
Time outs since system initialization............: 0 
Identifier state.................................: CLEAN 
Kerchunks today..................................: 0 
Kerchunks since system initialization............: 0 
Keyups today.....................................: 63 
Keyups since system initialization...............: 1190 
DTMF commands today..............................: 2 
DTMF commands since system initialization........: 6 
Last DTMF command executed.......................: 32135 
TX time today....................................: 00:01:38.292 
TX time since system initialization..............: 01:10:31.702 
Uptime...........................................: 36:58:08 
Nodes currently connected to us..................: W3SBA, 2135 
Autopatch........................................: ENABLED 
Autopatch state..................................: DOWN 
Autopatch called number..........................: N/A 
Reverse patch/IAXRPT connected...................: DOWN 
User linking commands............................: ENABLED 
User functions...................................: ENABLED 



Parse and use that line to construct a disconnect? command to nullify the last .? ?Then maybe play an "conflicting node" voice? announcement. 



Bob, WB3AWJ 

Loganville, PA 





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From wb3awj at comcast.net  Tue Aug 30 13:05:53 2011
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:05:53 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
In-Reply-To: <753465461.952945.1314707788501.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <753465461.952945.1314707788501.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ee6305a2-03e1-40cf-8c7c-f7961e437b06@email.android.com>

In fact, it just occurred to me that if the same sort of information was available on a co-located IRLP node, the two nodes could maintain dynamic "lockout" lists.

Robert Poff
Loganville, Pa

Droid X Mobile

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From vencl at att.net  Tue Aug 30 13:54:41 2011
From: vencl at att.net (Lu Vencl)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:54:41 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
In-Reply-To: <ee6305a2-03e1-40cf-8c7c-f7961e437b06@email.android.com>
References: <753465461.952945.1314707788501.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<ee6305a2-03e1-40cf-8c7c-f7961e437b06@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <01c601cc671c$5f9b24d0$1ed16e70$@net>

Interesting idea.. Thanks!

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Robert A. Poff
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:06 AM
To: app_rpt list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?

 

In fact, it just occurred to me that if the same sort of information was available on a co-located IRLP node, the two nodes could maintain dynamic "lockout" lists.

Robert Poff
Loganville, Pa

Droid X Mobile

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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 30 16:45:15 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:45:15 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with chan_simpleusb/usbradio
	under Limey Linux
Message-ID: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>


Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux?? 

I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.

If anyone has, please let me know.

JIM WB6NIL

 		 	   		  
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From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Tue Aug 30 23:56:38 2011
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:56:38 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with
	chan_simpleusb/usbradio	under Limey Linux
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527382A41D860@X2.michiganbb.local>

I've only ever gave it a quick try.. (I don't remember the details) other than a quick test  failed' and I switched back to usbradio to get things
Going again..

Steve



From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
To: app_rpt mailing list
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with chan_simpleusb/usbradio under Limey Linux

Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux??

I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.

If anyone has, please let me know.

JIM WB6NIL
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Tue Aug 30 23:58:47 2011
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV))
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:58:47 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] OT:  CISCO 7910 IP Phone
Message-ID: <4E5D7937.1060905@va3uv.com>

Hey All;

If anyone has experience with setting up a CISCO 7910 IP phone, please 
contact me off list.

Thx!


Ramesh.


From vk3jed at vkradio.com  Wed Aug 31 00:09:41 2011
From: vk3jed at vkradio.com (Tony Langdon, VK3JED)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:09:41 +1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Any way to stop crossing to specific nodes?
In-Reply-To: <ee6305a2-03e1-40cf-8c7c-f7961e437b06@email.android.com>
References: <753465461.952945.1314707788501.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<ee6305a2-03e1-40cf-8c7c-f7961e437b06@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <4e5d7bce.08b2ec0a.698c.2a88@mx.google.com>

At 11:05 PM 8/30/2011, Robert A. Poff wrote:
>In fact, it just occurred to me that if the same sort of information 
>was available on a co-located IRLP node, the two nodes could 
>maintain dynamic "lockout" lists.

Hmm, you guys are really inspiring me to get my nodes back 
online.  Looks like a call to the national frequency coordinator at 
the WIA is in order, so I can get the RF on air.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Wed Aug 31 00:15:54 2011
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:15:54 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O
	with	chan_simpleusb/usbradio	under Limey Linux
In-Reply-To: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527382A41D860@X2.michiganbb.local>
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
	<FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527382A41D860@X2.michiganbb.local>
Message-ID: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527382A41D861@X2.michiganbb.local>

& I didn't try it on Limey... twaz ACID.


From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Steve Gladden
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:57 PM
To: Jim Duuuude; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with chan_simpleusb/usbradio under Limey Linux

I've only ever gave it a quick try.. (I don't remember the details) other than a quick test  failed' and I switched back to usbradio to get things
Going again..

Steve



From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org]<mailto:[mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org]> On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
To: app_rpt mailing list
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with chan_simpleusb/usbradio under Limey Linux

Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux??

I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.

If anyone has, please let me know.

JIM WB6NIL
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From vk4akp at yahoo.com.au  Wed Aug 31 00:32:34 2011
From: vk4akp at yahoo.com.au (Ken Page)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:32:34 +1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Updated UDEV now Asterisk Radio stuff is dead. :(
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1314633601.17632.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.1.1314633601.17632.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <4E5D8122.8060409@yahoo.com.au>

Hi guys,

Just updated udev on the system and now all the Asterisk radio stuff 
won't load.

I've discovered that they have renamed the USB device names in the 
latest udev.

Instead of

/dev/usb
/dev/usb1
/dev/usb2

I now have

/dev/usbmon0
/dev/usbmon1
/dev/usbmon2

Someone give me a hint as to what the fix is please?
--
[Aug 31 09:51:14] WARNING[7695]: chan_usbradio.c:1449 hidthread: Loaded 
parameters from usbradio_tune_usb.conf for device usb .
[Aug 31 09:51:14] WARNING[7695]: chan_usbradio.c:1815 setformat: Unable 
to re-open DSP device 2 (usb): No such file or directory
[Aug 31 09:51:14] WARNING[7702]: chan_usbradio.c:1449 hidthread: Loaded 
parameters from usbradio_tune_usb1.conf for device usb1 .
[Aug 31 09:51:14] WARNING[7702]: chan_usbradio.c:1815 setformat: Unable 
to re-open DSP device 0 (usb1): No such file or directory
--

Regards,
Ken - vk4akp
All_Star: 2134
Echolink: 7878
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From jd0 at broadsci.com  Wed Aug 31 01:00:28 2011
From: jd0 at broadsci.com (Jeff DePolo)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:00:28 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with
	chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9D859ADF8E8B4FD098895561250B79E3@OUTLAW>


Yes, I'm using them as BCD outputs to steer a "memory-agile" GE Delta-S
remote base radio under Limey.  You'll probably recall you and I going back
and forth on some bug fixes a while back to get it working.  The biggest
problems were related to ioperm permissions; I think I fixed the last of the
bugs myself.

				--- Jeff WN3A

> -----Original Message-----
> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org 
> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
> To: app_rpt mailing list
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with 
> chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> 
> Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
> of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux?? 
> 
> I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
> did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.
> 
> If anyone has, please let me know.
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> 
> 



From george at dyb.com  Wed Aug 31 01:54:00 2011
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:54:00 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O
	withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
	<9D859ADF8E8B4FD098895561250B79E3@OUTLAW>
Message-ID: <765CD64E504E494FBCF90D055C776DE3@lintv.com>

Hey guys, I really need some help with ppin. Works finew with ACID, ppx-ptt 
works fine, under both distros, pp in for cor just will not work in Limey, 
and I have no more hair to pull out. Does pp work as an input under Limey, 
and docs I find doesn't say it does not work, but I gave up hope and just 
deployed the system with a hard drive, which isn't the way I needed to go.

Is it possible to use as an input?

I have it loading parport and parport_pc, thies EPP and ECP in the bios, and 
every combination of setups. I know I have it configured right, same config 
worked just fine in ACID

The only thing that could make Limey even more perfect is RTL8187 wireless 
support and parallel port input for COS.


GeorgeC
W2DB


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff DePolo" <jd0 at broadsci.com>
To: "'Jim Duuuude'" <telesistant at hotmail.com>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" 
<app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux


>
> Yes, I'm using them as BCD outputs to steer a "memory-agile" GE Delta-S
> remote base radio under Limey.  You'll probably recall you and I going 
> back
> and forth on some bug fixes a while back to get it working.  The biggest
> problems were related to ioperm permissions; I think I fixed the last of 
> the
> bugs myself.
>
> --- Jeff WN3A
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
>> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
>> To: app_rpt mailing list
>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with
>> chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
>>
>> Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
>> of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux??
>>
>> I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
>> did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.
>>
>> If anyone has, please let me know.
>>
>> JIM WB6NIL
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 




From george at dyb.com  Wed Aug 31 01:55:45 2011
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:55:45 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] moreRe: Parallel port I/O with
	chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0367FE38A36C4C3B9ADDE5D17799249C@lintv.com>

I've started thinking it is a kernel issue somehow, but that's just one of those feelings, which usually turns out to be the barbecue I had for lunch...

GeorgeC
W2DB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Duuuude 
  To: app_rpt mailing list 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:45 AM
  Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux


  Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
  of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux?? 

  I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
  did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.

  If anyone has, please let me know.

  JIM WB6NIL

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From george at dyb.com  Wed Aug 31 02:00:58 2011
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:00:58 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] voice announcements
Message-ID: <295EE0EE24984A1F988608E26E1C85B7@lintv.com>

I have been over the archive of this mail list, thru the web sire how to's, 
and need to ask. Is there a way to disable the voice announcements? I have 
one link that stays nailed up to a base station where somne seniors are 
listening and they get bothered by the voice announcement when connects and 
disconnects happen. And I've had some wiggles on the power here that caused 
Limey to reboot, and then at 6AM they get the message and it wakes them up. 
You have to understand folks almost 90 years old...phone calls after 9PM or 
before 8AM=sombody died, etc. Same thing with these voice announcements...it 
breaks the peace.

I tried simply changing the name on the directory the gsm files live in, 
buit then nothing would even connect. So that didn't fly...

GeorgeC
George J Csahanin
W2DB
Cedar Park, TX 




From kt9ac at ameritech.net  Wed Aug 31 02:11:17 2011
From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:11:17 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] voice announcements
In-Reply-To: <295EE0EE24984A1F988608E26E1C85B7@lintv.com>
References: <295EE0EE24984A1F988608E26E1C85B7@lintv.com>
Message-ID: <4E5D9845.6030402@ameritech.net>

George, try "telemdefault=0". You might try a scheduler setpoint to turn 
them on/off depending on time of day.

cop,33    ; Local Telemetry Output Enable
cop,34    ; Local Telemetry Output Disable
cop,35    ; Local Telemetry Output on demand

I have macro's that turn telem off, then do a bunch of stuff, and turn 
it back on.

Tony

On 08/30/2011 09:00 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
> I have been over the archive of this mail list, thru the web sire how 
> to's, and need to ask. Is there a way to disable the voice 
> announcements? I have one link that stays nailed up to a base station 
> where somne seniors are listening and they get bothered by the voice 
> announcement when connects and disconnects happen. And I've had some 
> wiggles on the power here that caused Limey to reboot, and then at 6AM 
> they get the message and it wakes them up. You have to understand 
> folks almost 90 years old...phone calls after 9PM or before 
> 8AM=sombody died, etc. Same thing with these voice announcements...it 
> breaks the peace.
>
> I tried simply changing the name on the directory the gsm files live 
> in, buit then nothing would even connect. So that didn't fly...
>
> GeorgeC
> George J Csahanin
> W2DB
> Cedar Park, TX
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>



From njgarbenis at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 02:13:46 2011
From: njgarbenis at gmail.com (Neal Garbenis)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:13:46 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] voice announcements
In-Reply-To: <295EE0EE24984A1F988608E26E1C85B7@lintv.com>
References: <295EE0EE24984A1F988608E26E1C85B7@lintv.com>
Message-ID: <39F5FE27-5A6B-4B37-952A-80B7C311B293@gmail.com>

Write a startup macro to turn off telemetry.  I have done this on a couple of my machines that I don't want to hear announcements.  I would post more detail for you but I'm not by my linux box.

Neal


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:00 PM, "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com> wrote:

> I have been over the archive of this mail list, thru the web sire how to's, and need to ask. Is there a way to disable the voice announcements? I have one link that stays nailed up to a base station where somne seniors are listening and they get bothered by the voice announcement when connects and disconnects happen. And I've had some wiggles on the power here that caused Limey to reboot, and then at 6AM they get the message and it wakes them up. You have to understand folks almost 90 years old...phone calls after 9PM or before 8AM=sombody died, etc. Same thing with these voice announcements...it breaks the peace.
> 
> I tried simply changing the name on the directory the gsm files live in, buit then nothing would even connect. So that didn't fly...
> 
> GeorgeC
> George J Csahanin
> W2DB
> Cedar Park, TX 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users


From george at dyb.com  Wed Aug 31 02:17:30 2011
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:17:30 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] voice announcements
References: <295EE0EE24984A1F988608E26E1C85B7@lintv.com>
	<39F5FE27-5A6B-4B37-952A-80B7C311B293@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B476B9621AC14FE0A9B4A74B2C3B587F@lintv.com>

OK, that's easy. I didn't think it was considered telemetry...

Thanks

GeorgeC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neal Garbenis" <njgarbenis at gmail.com>
To: "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com>
Cc: <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] voice announcements


> Write a startup macro to turn off telemetry.  I have done this on a couple 
> of my machines that I don't want to hear announcements.  I would post more 
> detail for you but I'm not by my linux box.
>
> Neal
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:00 PM, "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been over the archive of this mail list, thru the web sire how 
>> to's, and need to ask. Is there a way to disable the voice announcements? 
>> I have one link that stays nailed up to a base station where somne 
>> seniors are listening and they get bothered by the voice announcement 
>> when connects and disconnects happen. And I've had some wiggles on the 
>> power here that caused Limey to reboot, and then at 6AM they get the 
>> message and it wakes them up. You have to understand folks almost 90 
>> years old...phone calls after 9PM or before 8AM=sombody died, etc. Same 
>> thing with these voice announcements...it breaks the peace.
>>
>> I tried simply changing the name on the directory the gsm files live in, 
>> buit then nothing would even connect. So that didn't fly...
>>
>> GeorgeC
>> George J Csahanin
>> W2DB
>> Cedar Park, TX
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 




From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 31 02:19:28 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:19:28 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O
 withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
In-Reply-To: <765CD64E504E494FBCF90D055C776DE3@lintv.com>
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
	<9D859ADF8E8B4FD098895561250B79E3@OUTLAW>,
	<765CD64E504E494FBCF90D055C776DE3@lintv.com>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W5174330260D3154B080C36B1160@phx.gbl>


Well, it would pretty much appear that my suspicion is correct. The PP input
stuff NEVER worked under Limey Linux, and its pretty obvious why. I will
update the chan_usbradio and chan_simpleusb code to reflect this.

JIM WB6NIL

> From: george at dyb.com
> To: jd0 at broadsci.com; telesistant at hotmail.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:54:00 -0500
> 
> Hey guys, I really need some help with ppin. Works finew with ACID, ppx-ptt 
> works fine, under both distros, pp in for cor just will not work in Limey, 
> and I have no more hair to pull out. Does pp work as an input under Limey, 
> and docs I find doesn't say it does not work, but I gave up hope and just 
> deployed the system with a hard drive, which isn't the way I needed to go.
> 
> Is it possible to use as an input?
> 
> I have it loading parport and parport_pc, thies EPP and ECP in the bios, and 
> every combination of setups. I know I have it configured right, same config 
> worked just fine in ACID
> 
> The only thing that could make Limey even more perfect is RTL8187 wireless 
> support and parallel port input for COS.
> 
> 
> GeorgeC
> W2DB
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff DePolo" <jd0 at broadsci.com>
> To: "'Jim Duuuude'" <telesistant at hotmail.com>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" 
> <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
> withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> 
> 
> >
> > Yes, I'm using them as BCD outputs to steer a "memory-agile" GE Delta-S
> > remote base radio under Limey.  You'll probably recall you and I going 
> > back
> > and forth on some bug fixes a while back to get it working.  The biggest
> > problems were related to ioperm permissions; I think I fixed the last of 
> > the
> > bugs myself.
> >
> > --- Jeff WN3A
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
> >> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
> >> To: app_rpt mailing list
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with
> >> chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> >>
> >> Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
> >> of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux??
> >>
> >> I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
> >> did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.
> >>
> >> If anyone has, please let me know.
> >>
> >> JIM WB6NIL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
 		 	   		  
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From george at dyb.com  Wed Aug 31 02:23:53 2011
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:23:53 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O
	withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
	<9D859ADF8E8B4FD098895561250B79E3@OUTLAW>,
	<765CD64E504E494FBCF90D055C776DE3@lintv.com>
	<BLU155-W5174330260D3154B080C36B1160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DB72BA063D72426D9C024F7D42BB69F2@lintv.com>

Thank you, sir. Are you doing a new Limey store-bought tgz file, just add "dd"? 

I tried rolling my own, and modified the kernel config for pp compiled in, not a module, and still didn't fly. I gave up and stuck with dsp decode of pl and cos. But I also suspect that the "motorboating" goes away if the software isn't doing all that other stuff, and just looking for a line to wiggle high ot low, etc. THAT allows easy interface to many radios. 

Take care.

GeorgeC
W2DB
2360
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Duuuude 
  To: george at dyb.com ; jd0 at broadsci.com ; app_rpt mailing list 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:19 PM
  Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux


  Well, it would pretty much appear that my suspicion is correct. The PP input
  stuff NEVER worked under Limey Linux, and its pretty obvious why. I will
  update the chan_usbradio and chan_simpleusb code to reflect this.

  JIM WB6NIL


  > From: george at dyb.com
  > To: jd0 at broadsci.com; telesistant at hotmail.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
  > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
  > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:54:00 -0500
  > 
  > Hey guys, I really need some help with ppin. Works finew with ACID, ppx-ptt 
  > works fine, under both distros, pp in for cor just will not work in Limey, 
  > and I have no more hair to pull out. Does pp work as an input under Limey, 
  > and docs I find doesn't say it does not work, but I gave up hope and just 
  > deployed the system with a hard drive, which isn't the way I needed to go.
  > 
  > Is it possible to use as an input?
  > 
  > I have it loading parport and parport_pc, thies EPP and ECP in the bios, and 
  > every combination of setups. I know I have it configured right, same config 
  > worked just fine in ACID
  > 
  > The only thing that could make Limey even more perfect is RTL8187 wireless 
  > support and parallel port input for COS.
  > 
  > 
  > GeorgeC
  > W2DB
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Jeff DePolo" <jd0 at broadsci.com>
  > To: "'Jim Duuuude'" <telesistant at hotmail.com>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" 
  > <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
  > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:00 PM
  > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
  > withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
  > 
  > 
  > >
  > > Yes, I'm using them as BCD outputs to steer a "memory-agile" GE Delta-S
  > > remote base radio under Limey. You'll probably recall you and I going 
  > > back
  > > and forth on some bug fixes a while back to get it working. The biggest
  > > problems were related to ioperm permissions; I think I fixed the last of 
  > > the
  > > bugs myself.
  > >
  > > --- Jeff WN3A
  > >
  > >> -----Original Message-----
  > >> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
  > >> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
  > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
  > >> To: app_rpt mailing list
  > >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with
  > >> chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
  > >>
  > >> Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
  > >> of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux??
  > >>
  > >> I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
  > >> did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.
  > >>
  > >> If anyone has, please let me know.
  > >>
  > >> JIM WB6NIL
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >
  > >
  > > 
  > 
  > 
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 31 02:28:40 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:28:40 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O
 withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
In-Reply-To: <DB72BA063D72426D9C024F7D42BB69F2@lintv.com>
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
	<9D859ADF8E8B4FD098895561250B79E3@OUTLAW>,
	<765CD64E504E494FBCF90D055C776DE3@lintv.com>
	<BLU155-W5174330260D3154B080C36B1160@phx.gbl>,
	<DB72BA063D72426D9C024F7D42BB69F2@lintv.com>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W234698A5DAED8D1AEC7777B1160@phx.gbl>


That's an interesting question.

Normally, what we do is take a snapshot of the SVN sources and make the 'files.tar.gz' file which
contains the release version of the sources. This file is used both for ACID and Limey Linux. The ACID
version of this has been released already. The 1.1.5 version of Limey Linux is still in the "needs to be
verified" (without the Asterisk stuff first) stage. So, it *is* possible to make these changes "appear" in the
Limey distro. However, I am going to have to talk with Steve, WA6ZFT and see how he wants to handle
this.

JIM WB6NIL


From: george at dyb.com
To: telesistant at hotmail.com; jd0 at broadsci.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:23:53 -0500










Thank you, sir. Are you doing a new Limey store-bought tgz 
file, just add "dd"? 
 
I tried rolling my own, and modified the kernel config for 
pp compiled in, not a module, and still didn't fly. I gave up and stuck with dsp 
decode of pl and cos. But I also suspect that the "motorboating" goes away if 
the software isn't doing all that other stuff, and just looking for a line to 
wiggle high ot low, etc. THAT allows easy interface to many radios. 

 
Take care.
 
GeorgeC
W2DB
2360

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Jim 
  Duuuude 
  To: george at dyb.com ; jd0 at broadsci.com ; app_rpt mailing list 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:19 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Parallel 
  port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
  

  Well, it would pretty much appear that my suspicion is correct. 
  The PP input
stuff NEVER worked under Limey Linux, and its pretty obvious 
  why. I will
update the chan_usbradio and chan_simpleusb code to reflect 
  this.

JIM WB6NIL


  > From: george at dyb.com
> To: 
  jd0 at broadsci.com; telesistant at hotmail.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> 
  Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
  withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 
  20:54:00 -0500
> 
> Hey guys, I really need some help with ppin. 
  Works finew with ACID, ppx-ptt 
> works fine, under both distros, pp in 
  for cor just will not work in Limey, 
> and I have no more hair to pull 
  out. Does pp work as an input under Limey, 
> and docs I find doesn't 
  say it does not work, but I gave up hope and just 
> deployed the system 
  with a hard drive, which isn't the way I needed to go.
> 
> Is it 
  possible to use as an input?
> 
> I have it loading parport and 
  parport_pc, thies EPP and ECP in the bios, and 
> every combination of 
  setups. I know I have it configured right, same config 
> worked just 
  fine in ACID
> 
> The only thing that could make Limey even more 
  perfect is RTL8187 wireless 
> support and parallel port input for 
  COS.
> 
> 
> GeorgeC
> W2DB
> 
> 
> 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff DePolo" 
  <jd0 at broadsci.com>
> To: "'Jim Duuuude'" 
  <telesistant at hotmail.com>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" 
> 
  <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:00 
  PM
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
> 
  withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> 
> 
> 
  >
> > Yes, I'm using them as BCD outputs to steer a "memory-agile" 
  GE Delta-S
> > remote base radio under Limey. You'll probably recall 
  you and I going 
> > back
> > and forth on some bug fixes a 
  while back to get it working. The biggest
> > problems were related 
  to ioperm permissions; I think I fixed the last of 
> > the
> 
  > bugs myself.
> >
> > --- Jeff WN3A
> >
> 
  >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 
  app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
> >> 
  [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
> 
  >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
> >> To: app_rpt 
  mailing list
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
  with
> >> chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> 
  >>
> >> Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* 
  GPIO) extensions
> >> of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under 
  Limey Linux??
> >>
> >> I think I have run into one of 
  those famous old "how in the world
> >> did this EVER work" sorta 
  things. I dont think it did.
> >>
> >> If anyone has, 
  please let me know.
> >>
> >> JIM WB6NIL
> 
  >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
  > 
> 
> 
 		 	   		  
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From george at dyb.com  Wed Aug 31 02:37:06 2011
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:37:06 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O
	withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
	<9D859ADF8E8B4FD098895561250B79E3@OUTLAW>,
	<765CD64E504E494FBCF90D055C776DE3@lintv.com>
	<BLU155-W5174330260D3154B080C36B1160@phx.gbl>,
	<DB72BA063D72426D9C024F7D42BB69F2@lintv.com>
	<BLU155-W234698A5DAED8D1AEC7777B1160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EA5499FFB5D44F7FAC138CBA90E28DAA@lintv.com>

So...(I'm a hacker, not a programmer)...as I understand this, if I get the new sources into my limey box I can compile them with the new source? 

I have a slackware linux laptop where I made my own limey one time, and it worked fine (on a D201 board before you folkis combined that with the D945 stuff)

The ACID distro I downloaded on Saturday has to be right, it works like a champ on the printer port. Also, in the docs it does not mention that pin 11 is available, and I peeked at the source and found that it was, and it did work. The controller I married it to has COS on pin 11, I didn't feel like soldering.

OK, Jim, thanks for the info/insight.

GeorgeC
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Duuuude 
  To: george at dyb.com ; jd0 at broadsci.com ; app_rpt mailing list 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:28 PM
  Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux


  That's an interesting question.

  Normally, what we do is take a snapshot of the SVN sources and make the 'files.tar.gz' file which
  contains the release version of the sources. This file is used both for ACID and Limey Linux. The ACID
  version of this has been released already. The 1.1.5 version of Limey Linux is still in the "needs to be
  verified" (without the Asterisk stuff first) stage. So, it *is* possible to make these changes "appear" in the
  Limey distro. However, I am going to have to talk with Steve, WA6ZFT and see how he wants to handle
  this.

  JIM WB6NIL




------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  From: george at dyb.com
  To: telesistant at hotmail.com; jd0 at broadsci.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
  Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
  Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:23:53 -0500


  Thank you, sir. Are you doing a new Limey store-bought tgz file, just add "dd"? 

  I tried rolling my own, and modified the kernel config for pp compiled in, not a module, and still didn't fly. I gave up and stuck with dsp decode of pl and cos. But I also suspect that the "motorboating" goes away if the software isn't doing all that other stuff, and just looking for a line to wiggle high ot low, etc. THAT allows easy interface to many radios. 

  Take care.

  GeorgeC
  W2DB
  2360
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jim Duuuude 
    To: george at dyb.com ; jd0 at broadsci.com ; app_rpt mailing list 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:19 PM
    Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux


    Well, it would pretty much appear that my suspicion is correct. The PP input
    stuff NEVER worked under Limey Linux, and its pretty obvious why. I will
    update the chan_usbradio and chan_simpleusb code to reflect this.

    JIM WB6NIL


    > From: george at dyb.com
    > To: jd0 at broadsci.com; telesistant at hotmail.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
    > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
    > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:54:00 -0500
    > 
    > Hey guys, I really need some help with ppin. Works finew with ACID, ppx-ptt 
    > works fine, under both distros, pp in for cor just will not work in Limey, 
    > and I have no more hair to pull out. Does pp work as an input under Limey, 
    > and docs I find doesn't say it does not work, but I gave up hope and just 
    > deployed the system with a hard drive, which isn't the way I needed to go.
    > 
    > Is it possible to use as an input?
    > 
    > I have it loading parport and parport_pc, thies EPP and ECP in the bios, and 
    > every combination of setups. I know I have it configured right, same config 
    > worked just fine in ACID
    > 
    > The only thing that could make Limey even more perfect is RTL8187 wireless 
    > support and parallel port input for COS.
    > 
    > 
    > GeorgeC
    > W2DB
    > 
    > 
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Jeff DePolo" <jd0 at broadsci.com>
    > To: "'Jim Duuuude'" <telesistant at hotmail.com>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" 
    > <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
    > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:00 PM
    > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
    > withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
    > 
    > 
    > >
    > > Yes, I'm using them as BCD outputs to steer a "memory-agile" GE Delta-S
    > > remote base radio under Limey. You'll probably recall you and I going 
    > > back
    > > and forth on some bug fixes a while back to get it working. The biggest
    > > problems were related to ioperm permissions; I think I fixed the last of 
    > > the
    > > bugs myself.
    > >
    > > --- Jeff WN3A
    > >
    > >> -----Original Message-----
    > >> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
    > >> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
    > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
    > >> To: app_rpt mailing list
    > >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with
    > >> chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
    > >>
    > >> Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
    > >> of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux??
    > >>
    > >> I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
    > >> did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.
    > >>
    > >> If anyone has, please let me know.
    > >>
    > >> JIM WB6NIL
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    > > 
    > 
    > 
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 31 02:55:31 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:55:31 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O
 withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
In-Reply-To: <EA5499FFB5D44F7FAC138CBA90E28DAA@lintv.com>
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
	<9D859ADF8E8B4FD098895561250B79E3@OUTLAW>,
	<765CD64E504E494FBCF90D055C776DE3@lintv.com>
	<BLU155-W5174330260D3154B080C36B1160@phx.gbl>,
	<DB72BA063D72426D9C024F7D42BB69F2@lintv.com>
	<BLU155-W234698A5DAED8D1AEC7777B1160@phx.gbl>,
	<EA5499FFB5D44F7FAC138CBA90E28DAA@lintv.com>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W1482BB890A6F0E3954FD82B1160@phx.gbl>


that will be correct *after* I update them into SVN.

You can follow the upgrade from SVN procedure in the 'support'
section of the allstarlink.org website.

JIM

From: george at dyb.com
To: telesistant at hotmail.com; jd0 at broadsci.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:37:06 -0500










So...(I'm a hacker, not a programmer)...as I understand 
this, if I get the new sources into my limey box I can compile them with the new 
source? 
 
I have a slackware linux laptop where I made my own limey 
one time, and it worked fine (on a D201 board before you folkis combined that 
with the D945 stuff)
 
The ACID distro I downloaded on Saturday has to be right, 
it works like a champ on the printer port. Also, in the docs it does not mention 
that pin 11 is available, and I peeked at the source and found that it was, and 
it did work. The controller I married it to has COS on pin 11, I didn't feel 
like soldering.
 
OK, Jim, thanks for the info/insight.
 
GeorgeC

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Jim 
  Duuuude 
  To: george at dyb.com ; jd0 at broadsci.com ; app_rpt mailing list 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:28 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Parallel 
  port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
  

  That's an interesting question.

Normally, what we do is 
  take a snapshot of the SVN sources and make the 'files.tar.gz' file 
  which
contains the release version of the sources. This file is used both 
  for ACID and Limey Linux. The ACID
version of this has been released 
  already. The 1.1.5 version of Limey Linux is still in the "needs to 
  be
verified" (without the Asterisk stuff first) stage. So, it *is* possible 
  to make these changes "appear" in the
Limey distro. However, I am going to 
  have to talk with Steve, WA6ZFT and see how he wants to 
  handle
this.

JIM WB6NIL



  
  
  From: george at dyb.com
To: telesistant at hotmail.com; jd0 at broadsci.com; 
  app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
  withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 
  21:23:53 -0500


  
  

  Thank you, sir. Are you doing a new Limey store-bought 
  tgz file, just add "dd"? 
   
  I tried rolling my own, and modified the kernel config 
  for pp compiled in, not a module, and still didn't fly. I gave up and stuck 
  with dsp decode of pl and cos. But I also suspect that the "motorboating" goes 
  away if the software isn't doing all that other stuff, and just looking for a 
  line to wiggle high ot low, etc. THAT allows easy interface to many radios. 
  
   
  Take care.
   
  GeorgeC
  W2DB
  2360
  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jim 
    Duuuude 
    To: george at dyb.com ; jd0 at broadsci.com ; app_rpt mailing list 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:19 
    PM
    Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Parallel 
    port I/O withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
    

    Well, it would pretty much appear that my suspicion is correct. 
    The PP input
stuff NEVER worked under Limey Linux, and its pretty obvious 
    why. I will
update the chan_usbradio and chan_simpleusb code to reflect 
    this.

JIM WB6NIL


    > From: george at dyb.com
> 
    To: jd0 at broadsci.com; telesistant at hotmail.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> 
    Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
    withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 
    20:54:00 -0500
> 
> Hey guys, I really need some help with ppin. 
    Works finew with ACID, ppx-ptt 
> works fine, under both distros, pp 
    in for cor just will not work in Limey, 
> and I have no more hair to 
    pull out. Does pp work as an input under Limey, 
> and docs I find 
    doesn't say it does not work, but I gave up hope and just 
> deployed 
    the system with a hard drive, which isn't the way I needed to go.
> 
    
> Is it possible to use as an input?
> 
> I have it 
    loading parport and parport_pc, thies EPP and ECP in the bios, and 
> 
    every combination of setups. I know I have it configured right, same config 
    
> worked just fine in ACID
> 
> The only thing that could 
    make Limey even more perfect is RTL8187 wireless 
> support and 
    parallel port input for COS.
> 
> 
> GeorgeC
> 
    W2DB
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
    "Jeff DePolo" <jd0 at broadsci.com>
> To: "'Jim Duuuude'" 
    <telesistant at hotmail.com>; "'app_rpt mailing list'" 
> 
    <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 
    8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O 
> 
    withchan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> 
> 
> 
    >
> > Yes, I'm using them as BCD outputs to steer a 
    "memory-agile" GE Delta-S
> > remote base radio under Limey. You'll 
    probably recall you and I going 
> > back
> > and forth on 
    some bug fixes a while back to get it working. The biggest
> > 
    problems were related to ioperm permissions; I think I fixed the last of 
    
> > the
> > bugs myself.
> >
> > --- 
    Jeff WN3A
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> 
    >> From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org
> >> 
    [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude
> 
    >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:45 PM
> >> To: 
    app_rpt mailing list
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port 
    I/O with
> >> chan_simpleusb/usbradiounder Limey Linux
> 
    >>
> >> Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* 
    GPIO) extensions
> >> of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb 
    under Limey Linux??
> >>
> >> I think I have run 
    into one of those famous old "how in the world
> >> did this 
    EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.
> >>
> 
    >> If anyone has, please let me know.
> >>
> 
    >> JIM WB6NIL
> >>
> >>
> 
    >>
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
    
 		 	   		  
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From kt9ac at ameritech.net  Wed Aug 31 15:41:14 2011
From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:41:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Completing install w/o URI in place
Message-ID: <1314805274.33621.YahooMailClassic@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm helping to do a remote install of a new node, but we don't have the URIx attached yet (just ordered it).

Is it possible to just allow my friend to complete the CentOS and post install with our node number to get it on the network? The hardware should be ready in a few days for that node, then we'll finish the config at that time.

Thanks,
Tony




From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 31 15:44:47 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:44:47 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Completing install w/o URI in place
In-Reply-To: <1314805274.33621.YahooMailClassic@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1314805274.33621.YahooMailClassic@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W507865840846A19A389EDCB1160@phx.gbl>


so, what is stopping you?

> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:41:14 -0700
> From: kt9ac at ameritech.net
> To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Completing install w/o URI in place
> 
> I'm helping to do a remote install of a new node, but we don't have the URIx attached yet (just ordered it).
> 
> Is it possible to just allow my friend to complete the CentOS and post install with our node number to get it on the network? The hardware should be ready in a few days for that node, then we'll finish the config at that time.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tony
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From kt9ac at ameritech.net  Wed Aug 31 15:54:31 2011
From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:54:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Completing install w/o URI in place
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W507865840846A19A389EDCB1160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1314806071.87459.YahooMailClassic@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just want to ensure that my friend's install can finish w/o the hardware being plugged in.

He aborted it before entering the node information, so we'll have to run the "phase2.sh" script again, etc to get it on the network where I can get to it remotely.

It's been a few years since I did a clean install...

--- On Wed, 8/31/11, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Completing install w/o URI in place
To: kt9ac at ameritech.net, "app_rpt mailing list" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 10:44 AM






so, what is stopping you?

> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:41:14 -0700
> From: kt9ac at ameritech.net
> To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Completing install w/o URI in place
> 
> I'm helping to do a remote install of a new node, but we don't have the URIx attached yet (just ordered it).
> 
> Is it possible to just allow my friend to complete the CentOS and post install with our node number to get it on the network? The hardware should be ready in a few days for that node, then we'll finish the config at that time.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tony
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
 		 	   		   
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 31 17:30:05 2011
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:30:05 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with chan_simpleusb/usbradio
 under Limey Linux
In-Reply-To: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU155-W52F050E8CC9CF66F848954B1170@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU155-W60ED5291F4FE7F705C625CB1160@phx.gbl>


for those who may be interested at this point, the SVN now contains
what *should* be working sources for chan_usbradio and chan_simpleusb
that *should* work under Limey Linux. I will try to get a chance to test them
today sometime.

JIM WB6NIL

From: telesistant at hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:45:15 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Parallel port I/O with chan_simpleusb/usbradio	under Limey Linux








Has anyone ever successfully used the PPIO (*not* GPIO) extensions
of chan_usbradio and/or chan_simpleusb under Limey Linux?? 

I think I have run into one of those famous old "how in the world
did this EVER work" sorta things. I dont think it did.

If anyone has, please let me know.

JIM WB6NIL

 		 	   		  

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