From af6yu at yahoo.com Fri Feb 1 02:16:44 2013 From: af6yu at yahoo.com (Lorenzo Nulud) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:16:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] (no subject) Message-ID: <1359685004.97088.YahooMailClassic@web122305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> hi, anyone there have this problem before @ test login _ ? tnx lorenzo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nessenj at jimsoffice.org Fri Feb 1 17:43:24 2013 From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:43:24 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Pi status? Message-ID: <9F4FFCB3F4F5EC448157ADAD865214FBD4C678@BLUPRD0712MB593.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> So, I have to admit that I have been loosely following this group over the past few months and sadly I am not up to speed! What's the status of the Pi with asterisk/app_rpt? Does it work or no? I have a friend who is interested in getting a node running on the Pi. Thanks! Jim, K6JWN From telesistant at hotmail.com Fri Feb 1 18:35:31 2013 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:35:31 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Pi status? In-Reply-To: <9F4FFCB3F4F5EC448157ADAD865214FBD4C678@BLUPRD0712MB593.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: <9F4FFCB3F4F5EC448157ADAD865214FBD4C678@BLUPRD0712MB593.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: No!! it DOES NOT "WORK". 1) There is some 'issue' with reliably pumping 1 channel of audio over the USB subsystem for some reason. It may have something to do with the alsa/oss compatibility laver in the kernel. No, I have not tried porting the native ALSA stuff to chan_simpleusb. NO, I do not have the time to do that, or even try to do that. No, I probably never will. 2) the only seemingly viable distro, with sources that are close enough to a running kernel that are obtainable is the Ubuntu (or debian, I am not sure, nor care which it actually is). Unfortunately, this distro comes with openssl version 1.X (rather then the traditional 0.X) and, therefore res_crypto, which is needed for authentication for the Allstar portal stuff will not compile, and therefore does not qualify any system built this way to be associated with the Allstar network. 3) The above issue (with the res_crypto thing, at least) would be solved by using Asterisk 1.6 (or newer), which, AT SOME POINT WHEN TIME AND COMPETENT TESTING *MAY* BE AVAILABLE (which it CERTAINLY is not now) could be implemented. Parts of the code are already compatible with this (version 1.6, at least) (most of the MAJOR pieces at least). If anyone that has the ability, time, and interest to port the native ALSA stuff to chan_simpleusb (as is used in chan_beagle, for example), and is willing to do so with the understanding that it may be ENTIRELY FUTILE, please speak up. If this hurdle (well, rather large mountain, actually) can be gotten over, then maybe we could look at the openssl/ res_crypto thing. Just to give everyone out there a "heads up" that might be thinking of commenting on this, please be aware that: 1) This really, really, really is the accurate, correct, and real information about this, and if your opinion differs from this, please dont express it here. It will not be taken positively to say the least! 2) This whole "pi mess" is an EXTREMELY SORE SUBJECT with me at this time. I have spent now, DOZENS OF HOURS attempting to get this poo-wad to function. It has been nothing other then a HUGE WASTE OF TIME that I *REALLY* don't have to waste. Jim > From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:43:24 +0000 > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Pi status? > > So, I have to admit that I have been loosely following this group over the past few months and sadly I am not up to speed! > > What's the status of the Pi with asterisk/app_rpt? Does it work or no? I have a friend who is interested in getting a node running on the Pi. > > Thanks! > > Jim, K6JWN > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The two parties to the call are: the incoming caller and the Host. 73 Ken -----Original Message----- From: Pierre Martel To: APP RPT Sent: Sat, Feb 2, 2013 3:28 pm Subject: [App_rpt-users] what does priority mean when I connect to my node with iaxrpt I see this in the logs -- Accepting AUTHENTICATED call from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: > requested format = ulaw, > requested prefs = (), > actual format = ulaw, > host prefs = (ulaw|gsm), > priority = mine what does priority = mine mean? Does it have to do with what audio have prioroty on the other in a simplex link? _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n9udo at yellowthunder.org Sun Feb 3 14:26:45 2013 From: n9udo at yellowthunder.org (Steve Schulze) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:26:45 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 Message-ID: <510E73A5.7070404@yellowthunder.org> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right now. Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 tells it to transmit. On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to the URI. Paths on 7330 as follows: RX-1 to TX-1 RX-1 to TX-3 RX-3 to TX-1 In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb Looking for thoughts / suggestions. Thanks in advance! -- Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html From wa1jhk at ix.netcom.com Sun Feb 3 15:05:18 2013 From: wa1jhk at ix.netcom.com (Dave Maciorowski) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:05:18 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 In-Reply-To: <510E73A5.7070404@yellowthunder.org> References: <510E73A5.7070404@yellowthunder.org> Message-ID: <510E7CAE.1050903@ix.netcom.com> Mornin' Steve, > Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? > > I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right now. > > Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 tells it to transmit. We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to add a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the pullup in the DB-25 shell. > On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to the URI. > > Paths on 7330 as follows: > RX-1 to TX-1 > RX-1 to TX-3 > RX-3 to TX-1 > > In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on > > In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb 73, Dave -- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Director Colorado Repeater Association http://www.w0cra.org cra at w0cra.org From n9udo at yellowthunder.org Sun Feb 3 16:13:58 2013 From: n9udo at yellowthunder.org (Steve Schulze) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:13:58 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 In-Reply-To: <510E7CAE.1050903@ix.netcom.com> References: <510E73A5.7070404@yellowthunder.org> <510E7CAE.1050903@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <510E8CC6.7020806@yellowthunder.org> Thanks Dave for the tip. I'm heading back out to the site to work on this some more. I will give the pull-ups a try. Maybe that's why it's not streaming out. How did you resolve the setting of the receive levels running 'radio tune rxnoise' etc, with the URI connected in this manner? Thanks! Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html On 2/3/2013 09:05, Dave Maciorowski wrote: > Mornin' Steve, > >> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? >> >> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right >> now. >> >> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the >> transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio >> from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on a >> scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from >> high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 >> tells it to transmit. > > We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to add > a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If > you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the > pullup in the DB-25 shell. > >> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to >> the URI. >> >> Paths on 7330 as follows: >> RX-1 to TX-1 >> RX-1 to TX-3 >> RX-3 to TX-1 >> >> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on >> >> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb > > 73, > > Dave > From jrorke at cogeco.ca Sun Feb 3 16:09:23 2013 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:09:23 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 In-Reply-To: <510E7CAE.1050903@ix.netcom.com> References: <510E73A5.7070404@yellowthunder.org> <510E7CAE.1050903@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <510E8BB3.209@cogeco.ca> Since you are connecting the URI to the controller there is no need to use the ctcss input to the URI. I'm assuming the 7330 is validating the pl on the repeater port. You only need to make the following connections: cont PTT - URI COR cont COR - URI PTT cont TXA - URI RXA cont RXA - URI TXA You may need a pullup resistor on the controller cor input though. The URI does not require pullup resistors (they are internally built in) on the cor and ctcss inputs. What they require is a transition to ground in either active hi or active low. So they can be connected to open collector outputs. No voltage needs to be sourced to the URI. The inputs are diode isolated to block the volatage anyway. Since the PTT from the controller is act lo, then the "corfrom" needs to be set to usbinvert for active low. and the ctcss input on the URI can be ignored. > In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb Set carrierfrom to usbinvert and ctcssfrom=no and comment out the pl frequencies in the default tone, RX tone and TX tone lines. Restart Asterisk then you should get audio to the node from the controller. Hope this helps. Jon VA3RQ On 2/3/2013 10:05 AM, Dave Maciorowski wrote: > Mornin' Steve, > >> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? >> >> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right >> now. >> >> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the >> transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio >> from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on a >> scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from >> high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 >> tells it to transmit. > > We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to add > a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If > you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the > pullup in the DB-25 shell. > >> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to >> the URI. >> >> Paths on 7330 as follows: >> RX-1 to TX-1 >> RX-1 to TX-3 >> RX-3 to TX-1 >> >> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on >> >> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb > > 73, > > Dave > From jrorke at cogeco.ca Sun Feb 3 16:31:20 2013 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:31:20 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 In-Reply-To: <510E8CC6.7020806@yellowthunder.org> References: <510E73A5.7070404@yellowthunder.org> <510E7CAE.1050903@ix.netcom.com> <510E8CC6.7020806@yellowthunder.org> Message-ID: <510E90D8.6000305@cogeco.ca> I suggest setting audio levels on the controller first, then do the URI adjustments. Set as follows: in usbradio. conf the audio setting should be : rxdemod=speaker txprelim=no This assumes the audio on the 7330 port is de-emphasized and does not require pre emphasis to and from the node. Disconnect the URI from the 7330. 1) Send a full quieting signal to the repeater with a 1k tone @ 3k deviation. Set the TX audio level on the controller URI port to 1v p-p. 2) Connect an 1K audio tone @1vp-p to the RXA pin on the controller port and gound the COR in line. Adjust input level to get 3k deviation on the repeater TX. Now you have the controller levels fixed. You new need to adjust the URI to these settings. Connect the URI and node to the controller. 3) Send a full quieting signal with the 1k k tone /3k deviation to the repeater and on the URI CLI console do a RADIO TUNE RXVOICE to measure the input level. (Dont worry about the RX noise adjustment - not required as you are not doing any DSP with this setup) 4) Do a RADIO TUNE TXVOICE 500 and measure the repeater deviation. 5) Repeat step 5 with different level until 3k deviation is reached on the repeater TX deviation. 6 Do a RADIO TUNE SAVE the set the audio levels on the node. 7) you are done. On 2/3/2013 11:13 AM, Steve Schulze wrote: > Thanks Dave for the tip. I'm heading back out to the site to work on > this some more. I will give the pull-ups a try. Maybe that's why it's > not streaming out. > > How did you resolve the setting of the receive levels running 'radio > tune rxnoise' etc, with the URI connected in this manner? > > > > Thanks! > > Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media > > Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 > Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS > > http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html > > On 2/3/2013 09:05, Dave Maciorowski wrote: >> Mornin' Steve, >> >>> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? >>> >>> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right >>> now. >>> >>> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the >>> transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio >>> from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on >>> a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from >>> high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 >>> tells it to transmit. >> >> We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to add >> a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If >> you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the >> pullup in the DB-25 shell. >> >>> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to >>> the URI. >>> >>> Paths on 7330 as follows: >>> RX-1 to TX-1 >>> RX-1 to TX-3 >>> RX-3 to TX-1 >>> >>> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on >>> >>> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb >> >> 73, >> >> Dave >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From wa1jhk at ix.netcom.com Sun Feb 3 17:34:02 2013 From: wa1jhk at ix.netcom.com (Dave Maciorowski) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:34:02 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 In-Reply-To: <510E8BB3.209@cogeco.ca> References: <510E73A5.7070404@yellowthunder.org> <510E7CAE.1050903@ix.netcom.com> <510E8BB3.209@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <510E9F8A.4080208@ix.netcom.com> Mornin' Jon, > You may need a pullup resistor on the controller cor input though. The 7330 has jumpers on each COR and CTCSS logic input of each port. See pages B-4 and B-5 of the 7330 manual. Thanks for the correction on the need for pullups on the URI. 73, Dave I On 2/3/2013 9:09 AM, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: > Since you are connecting the URI to the controller there is no need to use the ctcss input to the URI. I'm assuming the 7330 is validating the pl on the repeater port. > You only need to make the following connections: > > cont PTT - URI COR > cont COR - URI PTT > cont TXA - URI RXA > cont RXA - URI TXA > > You may need a pullup resistor on the controller cor input though. > > The URI does not require pullup resistors (they are internally built in) on the cor and ctcss inputs. What they require is a transition to ground in either active hi or active low. So they can be connected to open collector outputs. No voltage needs to be sourced to the URI. The inputs are diode isolated to block the volatage anyway. > > Since the PTT from the controller is act lo, then the "corfrom" needs to be set to usbinvert for active low. > and the ctcss input on the URI can be ignored. > >> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb > > Set carrierfrom to usbinvert and ctcssfrom=no and comment out the pl frequencies in the default tone, RX tone and TX tone lines. > > Restart Asterisk then you should get audio to the node from the controller. > > Hope this helps. > > Jon VA3RQ > > > On 2/3/2013 10:05 AM, Dave Maciorowski wrote: >> Mornin' Steve, >> >>> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? >>> >>> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right now. >>> >>> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 tells it to transmit. >> >> We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to add a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the pullup in the DB-25 shell. >> >>> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to the URI. >>> >>> Paths on 7330 as follows: >>> RX-1 to TX-1 >>> RX-1 to TX-3 >>> RX-3 to TX-1 >>> >>> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on >>> >>> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb >> >> 73, >> >> Dave >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > From n9udo at yellowthunder.org Sun Feb 3 18:35:46 2013 From: n9udo at yellowthunder.org (Steve Schulze - N9UDO) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:35:46 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 Message-ID: I have all of this done. I can see 1vPP on the input to the uri. But when I do the radio tune rx voice I get a failed response from no audio. I have tried a different uri as well. Thanks. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: REDBUTTON_CTRL Date: 02/03/2013 10:31 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 I suggest setting audio levels on the controller first, then do the URI adjustments. Set as follows: in usbradio. conf the audio setting should be : rxdemod=speaker txprelim=no This assumes the audio on the 7330 port is de-emphasized and does not require pre emphasis to and from the node. Disconnect the URI from the 7330. 1) Send a full quieting signal to the repeater with a 1k tone @ 3k deviation. Set the TX audio level on the controller URI port to 1v p-p. 2) Connect an 1K audio tone @1vp-p? to the RXA pin on the controller port and gound the COR in line. Adjust input level to get 3k deviation on the repeater TX. Now you have the controller levels fixed. You new need to adjust the URI to these settings. Connect the URI and node to the controller. 3) Send a full quieting signal with the 1k k tone /3k deviation to the repeater and on the URI CLI console do a RADIO TUNE RXVOICE to measure the input level. (Dont worry about the RX noise adjustment - not required as you are not doing any DSP with this setup) 4) Do a RADIO TUNE TXVOICE 500 and measure the repeater deviation. 5) Repeat step 5 with different level until 3k deviation is reached on the repeater TX? deviation. 6 Do a RADIO TUNE SAVE? the set the audio levels on the node. 7) you are done. On 2/3/2013 11:13 AM, Steve Schulze wrote: > Thanks Dave for the tip. I'm heading back out to the site to work on > this some more. I will give the pull-ups a try. Maybe that's why it's > not streaming out. > > How did you resolve the setting of the receive levels running 'radio > tune rxnoise' etc, with the URI connected in this manner? > > > > Thanks! > > Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media > > Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 > Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS > > http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html > > On 2/3/2013 09:05, Dave Maciorowski wrote: >> Mornin' Steve, >> >>> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? >>> >>> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right >>> now. >>> >>> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the >>> transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio >>> from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on >>> a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from >>> high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 >>> tells it to transmit. >> >>?? We are working on this now.? I just built a cable and needed to add >> a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If >> you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too.? I added the >> pullup in the DB-25 shell. >> >>> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to >>> the URI. >>> >>> Paths on 7330 as follows: >>> RX-1 to TX-1 >>> RX-1 to TX-3 >>> RX-3 to TX-1 >>> >>> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on >>> >>> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb >> >>?? 73, >> >>???? Dave >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jrorke at cogeco.ca Sun Feb 3 21:07:50 2013 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 16:07:50 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <510ED1A6.3060904@cogeco.ca> Hi Steve, ok I think you said you were using pin 9 on the URI? I use pins 21 and 22 on my audio connections. I have attached a diagram of the URI to 7330. This should work. Most of my stuff is wired to connect to radios using the RLC wiring but the connections to the URI are the same. This diagram is for the 7330 to URI. Jon On 2/3/2013 1:35 PM, Steve Schulze - N9UDO wrote: > I have all of this done. I can see 1vPP on the input to the uri. But > when I do the radio tune rx voice I get a failed response from no > audio. I have tried a different uri as well. > > Thanks. > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: REDBUTTON_CTRL > Date: 02/03/2013 10:31 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 > > > I suggest setting audio levels on the controller first, then do the URI > adjustments. > > Set as follows: > > in usbradio. conf the audio setting should be : > > rxdemod=speaker > txprelim=no > > This assumes the audio on the 7330 port is de-emphasized and does not > require pre emphasis to and from the node. > > Disconnect the URI from the 7330. > > 1) Send a full quieting signal to the repeater with a 1k tone @ 3k > deviation. Set the TX audio level on the controller URI port to 1v p-p. > 2) Connect an 1K audio tone @1vp-p to the RXA pin on the controller > port and gound the COR in line. Adjust input level to get 3k deviation > on the repeater TX. > > Now you have the controller levels fixed. You new need to adjust the URI > to these settings. > > Connect the URI and node to the controller. > > 3) Send a full quieting signal with the 1k k tone /3k deviation to the > repeater and on the URI CLI console do a RADIO TUNE RXVOICE to measure > the input level. > (Dont worry about the RX noise adjustment - not required as you are not > doing any DSP with this setup) > 4) Do a RADIO TUNE TXVOICE 500 and measure the repeater deviation. > 5) Repeat step 5 with different level until 3k deviation is reached on > the repeater TX deviation. > 6 Do a RADIO TUNE SAVE the set the audio levels on the node. > 7) you are done. > > > On 2/3/2013 11:13 AM, Steve Schulze wrote: > > Thanks Dave for the tip. I'm heading back out to the site to work on > > this some more. I will give the pull-ups a try. Maybe that's why it's > > not streaming out. > > > > How did you resolve the setting of the receive levels running 'radio > > tune rxnoise' etc, with the URI connected in this manner? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media > > > > Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO > > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ > > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 > > Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS > > > > http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html > > > > On 2/3/2013 09:05, Dave Maciorowski wrote: > >> Mornin' Steve, > >> > >>> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? > >>> > >>> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right > >>> now. > >>> > >>> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the > >>> transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio > >>> from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on > >>> a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from > >>> high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 > >>> tells it to transmit. > >> > >> We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to add > >> a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If > >> you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the > >> pullup in the DB-25 shell. > >> > >>> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to > >>> the URI. > >>> > >>> Paths on 7330 as follows: > >>> RX-1 to TX-1 > >>> RX-1 to TX-3 > >>> RX-3 to TX-1 > >>> > >>> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on > >>> > >>> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Dave > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html On 2/3/2013 15:07, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: > Hi Steve, ok I think you said you were using pin 9 on the URI? I use > pins 21 and 22 on my audio connections. I have attached a diagram of > the URI to 7330. This should work. > Most of my stuff is wired to connect to radios using the RLC wiring > but the connections to the URI are the same. > This diagram is for the 7330 to URI. > > Jon > > On 2/3/2013 1:35 PM, Steve Schulze - N9UDO wrote: >> I have all of this done. I can see 1vPP on the input to the uri. But >> when I do the radio tune rx voice I get a failed response from no >> audio. I have tried a different uri as well. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: REDBUTTON_CTRL >> Date: 02/03/2013 10:31 AM (GMT-06:00) >> To: >> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 >> >> >> I suggest setting audio levels on the controller first, then do the URI >> adjustments. >> >> Set as follows: >> >> in usbradio. conf the audio setting should be : >> >> rxdemod=speaker >> txprelim=no >> >> This assumes the audio on the 7330 port is de-emphasized and does not >> require pre emphasis to and from the node. >> >> Disconnect the URI from the 7330. >> >> 1) Send a full quieting signal to the repeater with a 1k tone @ 3k >> deviation. Set the TX audio level on the controller URI port to 1v p-p. >> 2) Connect an 1K audio tone @1vp-p to the RXA pin on the controller >> port and gound the COR in line. Adjust input level to get 3k deviation >> on the repeater TX. >> >> Now you have the controller levels fixed. You new need to adjust the URI >> to these settings. >> >> Connect the URI and node to the controller. >> >> 3) Send a full quieting signal with the 1k k tone /3k deviation to the >> repeater and on the URI CLI console do a RADIO TUNE RXVOICE to measure >> the input level. >> (Dont worry about the RX noise adjustment - not required as you are not >> doing any DSP with this setup) >> 4) Do a RADIO TUNE TXVOICE 500 and measure the repeater deviation. >> 5) Repeat step 5 with different level until 3k deviation is reached on >> the repeater TX deviation. >> 6 Do a RADIO TUNE SAVE the set the audio levels on the node. >> 7) you are done. >> >> >> On 2/3/2013 11:13 AM, Steve Schulze wrote: >> > Thanks Dave for the tip. I'm heading back out to the site to work on >> > this some more. I will give the pull-ups a try. Maybe that's why it's >> > not streaming out. >> > >> > How did you resolve the setting of the receive levels running 'radio >> > tune rxnoise' etc, with the URI connected in this manner? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media >> > >> > Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO >> > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ >> > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 >> > Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS >> > >> > http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html >> > >> > On 2/3/2013 09:05, Dave Maciorowski wrote: >> >> Mornin' Steve, >> >> >> >>> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? >> >>> >> >>> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right >> >>> now. >> >>> >> >>> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the >> >>> transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio >> >>> from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on >> >>> a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from >> >>> high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 >> >>> tells it to transmit. >> >> >> >> We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to add >> >> a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If >> >> you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the >> >> pullup in the DB-25 shell. >> >> >> >>> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to >> >>> the URI. >> >>> >> >>> Paths on 7330 as follows: >> >>> RX-1 to TX-1 >> >>> RX-1 to TX-3 >> >>> RX-3 to TX-1 >> >>> >> >>> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on >> >>> >> >>> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb >> >> >> >> 73, >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > App_rpt-users mailing list >> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The pin 21 has the inline cap and a level scaling so it can be driven with a little higher levels. The other thing is pin 9 is direct input and some DC biases will muck thinks up. I suspect thats what happened here. Glad you got it going. Jon RQ On 2/3/2013 4:57 PM, Steve Schulze wrote: > Thanks Jon. > > This is exactly what I had to do. > > I had this system running here at home on the bench with a TKR-750 > connected directly to the URI and no problems. So, I made a mistake > and thought pin 9 would work for the 7330 too. Apparently, I was using > the AC coupled output on the Kenwood, so it worked fine. Once I > switched to the AC coupled input on the URI from the 7330 the thing > lit up and I was able to set the input level in Asterisk. > > Thanks for all of your help. It's funny how we look past the obvious > sometimes. > > It's official. Node 27727 is now running in it's permanent location! > Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media > > Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 > Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS > > http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html > On 2/3/2013 15:07, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: >> Hi Steve, ok I think you said you were using pin 9 on the URI? I use >> pins 21 and 22 on my audio connections. I have attached a diagram of >> the URI to 7330. This should work. >> Most of my stuff is wired to connect to radios using the RLC wiring >> but the connections to the URI are the same. >> This diagram is for the 7330 to URI. >> >> Jon >> >> On 2/3/2013 1:35 PM, Steve Schulze - N9UDO wrote: >>> I have all of this done. I can see 1vPP on the input to the uri. But >>> when I do the radio tune rx voice I get a failed response from no >>> audio. I have tried a different uri as well. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: REDBUTTON_CTRL >>> Date: 02/03/2013 10:31 AM (GMT-06:00) >>> To: >>> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 >>> >>> >>> I suggest setting audio levels on the controller first, then do the URI >>> adjustments. >>> >>> Set as follows: >>> >>> in usbradio. conf the audio setting should be : >>> >>> rxdemod=speaker >>> txprelim=no >>> >>> This assumes the audio on the 7330 port is de-emphasized and does not >>> require pre emphasis to and from the node. >>> >>> Disconnect the URI from the 7330. >>> >>> 1) Send a full quieting signal to the repeater with a 1k tone @ 3k >>> deviation. Set the TX audio level on the controller URI port to 1v p-p. >>> 2) Connect an 1K audio tone @1vp-p to the RXA pin on the controller >>> port and gound the COR in line. Adjust input level to get 3k deviation >>> on the repeater TX. >>> >>> Now you have the controller levels fixed. You new need to adjust the >>> URI >>> to these settings. >>> >>> Connect the URI and node to the controller. >>> >>> 3) Send a full quieting signal with the 1k k tone /3k deviation to the >>> repeater and on the URI CLI console do a RADIO TUNE RXVOICE to measure >>> the input level. >>> (Dont worry about the RX noise adjustment - not required as you are not >>> doing any DSP with this setup) >>> 4) Do a RADIO TUNE TXVOICE 500 and measure the repeater deviation. >>> 5) Repeat step 5 with different level until 3k deviation is reached on >>> the repeater TX deviation. >>> 6 Do a RADIO TUNE SAVE the set the audio levels on the node. >>> 7) you are done. >>> >>> >>> On 2/3/2013 11:13 AM, Steve Schulze wrote: >>> > Thanks Dave for the tip. I'm heading back out to the site to work on >>> > this some more. I will give the pull-ups a try. Maybe that's why it's >>> > not streaming out. >>> > >>> > How did you resolve the setting of the receive levels running 'radio >>> > tune rxnoise' etc, with the URI connected in this manner? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media >>> > >>> > Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO >>> > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ >>> > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 >>> > Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS >>> > >>> > http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html >>> > >>> > On 2/3/2013 09:05, Dave Maciorowski wrote: >>> >> Mornin' Steve, >>> >> >>> >>> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? >>> >>> >>> >>> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% >>> right >>> >>> now. >>> >>> >>> >>> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the >>> >>> transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio >>> >>> from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on >>> >>> a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from >>> >>> high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 >>> >>> tells it to transmit. >>> >> >>> >> We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to >>> add >>> >> a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If >>> >> you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the >>> >> pullup in the DB-25 shell. >>> >> >>> >>> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is >>> connect to >>> >>> the URI. >>> >>> >>> >>> Paths on 7330 as follows: >>> >>> RX-1 to TX-1 >>> >>> RX-1 to TX-3 >>> >>> RX-3 to TX-1 >>> >>> >>> >>> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on >>> >>> >>> >>> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb >>> >> >>> >> 73, >>> >> >>> >> Dave >>> >> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > App_rpt-users mailing list >>> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What am missing.??Examples? >Thanks, >Rick >W4kdm > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 01:15:38 2013 From: k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Carrier) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:15:38 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] XIPAR install In-Reply-To: <35d9e0e9-a177-4777-bc34-8ddf16d0fca3@email.android.com> References: <35d9e0e9-a177-4777-bc34-8ddf16d0fca3@email.android.com> Message-ID: That is my impression also. Its documented several places. On Feb 3, 2013 3:12 PM, "Robert a. Poff" wrote: > XIPAR is currently incompatible with the Web Transceiver to my > understanding. > > Rick wrote: >> >> I just installed the XIPIR ISO on a new computer , AllStar WebTranceiver >> will not connect , although it is registered there. I tried overwritting >> the extensions_rpt_custom.conf >> and >> iax_rpt_custom.conf >> and keys files with the Allstar manual configurations. I tried this but >> it rang once and still did not connect. What am missing.??Examples? >> Thanks, >> Rick >> W4kdm >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ke2n at cs.com Mon Feb 4 08:42:10 2013 From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 03:42:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 In-Reply-To: <510EDCE1.1000000@cogeco.ca> References: <510ED1A6.3060904@cogeco.ca> <510EDD49.5050002@yellowthunder.org> <510EDCE1.1000000@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <8CFD0CAA8266BFD-2344-76834@webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com> yeah .... be very careful with pin 9 too much voltage on that pin can burn out the CM chip. I killed a CM108 this way back when I was making a homebrew fob .. Ken -----Original Message----- From: REDBUTTON_CTRL Cc: app_rpt-users Sent: Sun, Feb 3, 2013 11:09 pm Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 Hey good stuff! The pin 21 has the inline cap and a level scaling so it can be driven with a little higher levels. The other thing is pin 9 is direct input and some DC biases will muck thinks up. I suspect thats what happened here. Glad you got it going. Jon RQ On 2/3/2013 4:57 PM, Steve Schulze wrote: Thanks Jon. This is exactly what I had to do. I had this system running here at home on the bench with a TKR-750 connected directly to the URI and no problems. So, I made a mistake and thought pin 9 would work for the 7330 too. Apparently, I was using the AC coupled output on the Kenwood, so it worked fine. Once I switched to the AC coupled input on the URI from the 7330 the thing lit up and I was able to set the input level in Asterisk. Thanks for all of your help. It's funny how we look past the obvious sometimes. It's official. Node 27727 is now running in it's permanent location! Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO dministrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ dministrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 reasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html On 2/3/2013 15:07, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: Hi Steve, ok I think you said you were using pin 9 on the URI? I use pins 21 and 22 on my audio connections. I have attached a diagram of the URI to 7330. This should work. Most of my stuff is wired to connect to radios using the RLC wiring but the connections to the URI are the same. This diagram is for the 7330 to URI. Jon On 2/3/2013 1:35 PM, Steve Schulze - N9UDO wrote: I have all of this done. I can see 1vPP on the input to the uri. But when I do the radio tune rx voice I get a failed response from no audio. I have tried a different uri as well. Thanks. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: REDBUTTON_CTRL Date: 02/03/2013 10:31 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SCOM 7330 I suggest setting audio levels on the controller first, then do the URI adjustments. Set as follows: in usbradio. conf the audio setting should be : rxdemod=speaker txprelim=no This assumes the audio on the 7330 port is de-emphasized and does not require pre emphasis to and from the node. Disconnect the URI from the 7330. 1) Send a full quieting signal to the repeater with a 1k tone @ 3k deviation. Set the TX audio level on the controller URI port to 1v p-p. 2) Connect an 1K audio tone @1vp-p to the RXA pin on the controller port and gound the COR in line. Adjust input level to get 3k deviation on the repeater TX. Now you have the controller levels fixed. You new need to adjust the URI to these settings. Connect the URI and node to the controller. 3) Send a full quieting signal with the 1k k tone /3k deviation to the repeater and on the URI CLI console do a RADIO TUNE RXVOICE to measure the input level. (Dont worry about the RX noise adjustment - not required as you are not doing any DSP with this setup) 4) Do a RADIO TUNE TXVOICE 500 and measure the repeater deviation. 5) Repeat step 5 with different level until 3k deviation is reached on the repeater TX deviation. 6 Do a RADIO TUNE SAVE the set the audio levels on the node. 7) you are done. On 2/3/2013 11:13 AM, Steve Schulze wrote: > Thanks Dave for the tip. I'm heading back out to the site to work on > this some more. I will give the pull-ups a try. Maybe that's why it's > not streaming out. > > How did you resolve the setting of the receive levels running 'radio > tune rxnoise' etc, with the URI connected in this manner? > > > > Thanks! > > Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media > > Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 > Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS > > http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html > > On 2/3/2013 09:05, Dave Maciorowski wrote: >> Mornin' Steve, >> >>> Anyone have a working node using an SCOM 7330 in line? >>> >>> I currently am trying to get these two to work. It's about 80% right >>> now. >>> >>> Audio from the node box is making it to the repeater and keying the >>> transmitter, no problem there. The problem I'm having is the audio >>> from the repeater not getting into the node box. I see the audio on >>> a scope at pin 9 (mic_in) on the URI. I also have a transition from >>> high to low on pins 7 and 8 (COR Det and CTCSS Det) when the 7330 >>> tells it to transmit. >> >> We are working on this now. I just built a cable and needed to add >> a pullup resistor at the URI COR input between pins 8 and 14. If >> you're using the CTCSS input, you need one there, too. I added the >> pullup in the DB-25 shell. >> >>> On the 7330, I'm using port 1 for the repeater. Port 3 is connect to >>> the URI. >>> >>> Paths on 7330 as follows: >>> RX-1 to TX-1 >>> RX-1 to TX-3 >>> RX-3 to TX-1 >>> >>> In rpt.conf I have duplex=0 and linktolink=on >>> >>> In USB radio I have carrierfrom=usb and ctcssfrom=usb >> >> 73, >> >> Dave >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ pp_rpt-users mailing list pp_rpt-users at ohnosec.org ttp://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ pp_rpt-users mailing list pp_rpt-users at ohnosec.org ttp://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ pp_rpt-users mailing list pp_rpt-users at ohnosec.org ttp://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mine did and I had to request for them to open it. 73, Eric 4Z5UG / WA6IGR Allstar Node: 28422 4Z5UG at guth.us Israel Direct: 077-950-9451 USA Direct: +1-720-377-3840 From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Scott M Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:35 PM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection Hi I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router portforwarded to 4569 udp. thanks for any help. Scott va3xy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keith at goobie.org Mon Feb 4 20:20:22 2013 From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 16:20:22 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection In-Reply-To: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <235B3390-431A-454A-9CCD-1A38984738FA@goobie.org> What type of router are you using? Keith va3yc Sent from my iPhone On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Scott M wrote: > Hi > I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router portforwarded to 4569 udp. > thanks for any help. > Scott va3xy > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Mon Feb 4 22:08:23 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:08:23 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] connection In-Reply-To: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1360015703.1812.26.camel@benjamin-hp> I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make simple errors. Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is the port going to your allstarlink node. Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make sure it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to see if that help solve some issues. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: > Hi > I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router > portforwarded to 4569 udp. > thanks for any help. > Scott va3xy > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From va3xy at yahoo.ca Mon Feb 4 22:33:08 2013 From: va3xy at yahoo.ca (Scott M) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:33:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] connection In-Reply-To: <1360015703.1812.26.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360015703.1812.26.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Thanks for the ideas, i removed the router and still no joy. My service provider has it blocked and will not open it. Looks like i will have to use a proxy server. Thanks again 73 Scott VA3XY ?? ? ? ? ? ? ??Benjamin L. Naber To: Scott M Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:08:23 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] [App_rpt-users] connection I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make simple errors. Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is the port going to your allstarlink node. Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make sure it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to see if that help solve some issues. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: > Hi > I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router > portforwarded to 4569 udp. > thanks for any help. > Scott va3xy > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 8f27e956 at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 23:49:43 2013 From: 8f27e956 at gmail.com (S. Scott) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:49:43 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] connection In-Reply-To: <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360015703.1812.26.camel@benjamin-hp> <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <-937343876226783653@unknownmsgid> Which isp? ????? iThing: Big thumbs & little keys. Please excuse typo, spelling and grammar errors ? Thought of the Day ? "With all this manure, there must be a pony in here somewhere.? On 2013-02-04, at 17:33, Scott M wrote: Hi Thanks for the ideas, i removed the router and still no joy. My service provider has it blocked and will not open it. Looks like i will have to use a proxy server. Thanks again 73 Scott VA3XY Benjamin L. Naber *To:* Scott M *Cc:* "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" *Sent:* Monday, February 4, 2013 5:08:23 PM *Subject:* Re: [Bulk] [App_rpt-users] connection I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make simple errors. Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is the port going to your allstarlink node. Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make sure it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to see if that help solve some issues. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: > Hi > I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router > portforwarded to 4569 udp. > thanks for any help. > Scott va3xy > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Tue Feb 5 00:50:58 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:50:58 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] connection In-Reply-To: <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360015703.1812.26.camel@benjamin-hp> <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1360025458.1812.40.camel@benjamin-hp> if I am not mistaken, you can send an email to the contact email address on allstarlink.org and ask them to use a different port number for you. I'm curious as to why they would block that port? Suppose they don't want folks to make their own phone systems and circumventing theirs? ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 14:33 -0800, Scott M wrote: > Hi > Thanks for the ideas, i removed the router and still no joy. My > service provider has it blocked and will not open it. Looks like i > will have to use a proxy server. > Thanks again > 73 > Scott VA3XY > > > > > > > Benjamin L. Naber > To: Scott M > Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" > Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:08:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Bulk] [App_rpt-users] connection > > > I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make > simple > errors. > > Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is > the port going to your allstarlink node. > > Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make > sure > it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. > > If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink > node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to > see if that help solve some issues. > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > Allstar node 28569 > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: > > Hi > > I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router > > portforwarded to 4569 udp. > > thanks for any help. > > Scott va3xy > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > From petem001 at hotmail.com Tue Feb 5 03:38:41 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 22:38:41 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] connection In-Reply-To: <1360025458.1812.40.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360015703.1812.26.camel@benjamin-hp> <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360025458.1812.40.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: Dont need to send an email to Jim. He just have to change the UDP port innthe network setting on the webportal for his server and all will be fine! Envoy? de mon iPad Le 4 Feb 2013 ? 19:51, "Benjamin L. Naber" a ?crit : > if I am not mistaken, you can send an email to the contact email address > on allstarlink.org and ask them to use a different port number for you. > > I'm curious as to why they would block that port? Suppose they don't > want folks to make their own phone systems and circumventing theirs? > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > > On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 14:33 -0800, Scott M wrote: >> Hi >> Thanks for the ideas, i removed the router and still no joy. My >> service provider has it blocked and will not open it. Looks like i >> will have to use a proxy server. >> Thanks again >> 73 >> Scott VA3XY >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Benjamin L. Naber >> To: Scott M >> Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" >> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:08:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [Bulk] [App_rpt-users] connection >> >> >> I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make >> simple >> errors. >> >> Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is >> the port going to your allstarlink node. >> >> Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make >> sure >> it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. >> >> If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink >> node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to >> see if that help solve some issues. >> >> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ >> Allstar node 28569 >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: >>> Hi >>> I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router >>> portforwarded to 4569 udp. >>> thanks for any help. >>> Scott va3xy >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From n3fe at repeater.net Tue Feb 5 12:55:59 2013 From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 07:55:59 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] connection In-Reply-To: <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360015703.1812.26.camel@benjamin-hp> <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E048326AC4235@exchange.mail.repeater.net> You can change the port on the allstar portal and then change it in the appropriate files in /etc/asterisk, also change it in your router. Reboot and you should be good to go... Corey N3FE From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Scott M Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:33 PM To: Benjamin L. Naber Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] connection Hi Thanks for the ideas, i removed the router and still no joy. My service provider has it blocked and will not open it. Looks like i will have to use a proxy server. Thanks again 73 Scott VA3XY Benjamin L. Naber > To: Scott M > Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" > Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:08:23 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] [App_rpt-users] connection I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make simple errors. Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is the port going to your allstarlink node. Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make sure it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to see if that help solve some issues. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: > Hi > I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router > portforwarded to 4569 udp. > thanks for any help. > Scott va3xy > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"With all this manure, there must be a pony in here somewhere.? On 2013-02-04, at 17:33, Scott M wrote: Hi >Thanks for the ideas, i removed the router and still no joy. My service provider has it blocked and will not open it. Looks like i will have to use a proxy server. >Thanks again >73 >Scott VA3XY > > > > > > >?? ? ? ? ? ? ??Benjamin L. Naber >To: Scott M >Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" >Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:08:23 PM >Subject: Re: [Bulk] [App_rpt-users] connection > >I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make simple >errors. > >Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is >the port going to your allstarlink node. > >Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make sure >it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. > >If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink >node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to >see if that help solve some issues. > >~Benjamin, KB9LFZ >Allstar node 28569 > > > >On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: >> Hi >> I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router >> portforwarded to 4569 udp. >> thanks for any help. >> Scott va3xy >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jrorke at cogeco.ca Tue Feb 5 15:12:23 2013 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (Jon Rorke) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:12:23 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] connection In-Reply-To: <1360075051.11916.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1359992105.96074.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360015703.1812.26.camel@benjamin-hp> <1360017188.47364.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <-937343876226783653@unknownmsgid> <1360075051.11916.YahooMailNeo@web162705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51112157.8070405@cogeco.ca> Ok if you are on a wireless connection like HSPA/3G/4G or "Rocket Stick/ Hub" and on Bell Mobility, then you do not have a public IP. So you will be able to connect out but nodes cannot connect in. The IP that is reported to the network does not forward any ports. If you switch to Rogers and get the Rocket hub, you can pay for a Public IP option, then you will be able to forward the correct ports. Bell does not have the option of a Public IP on that service. You can try the VPN or proxy. Dont know if that will work. Good luck. Jon VA3RQ On 2/5/2013 9:37 AM, Scott M wrote: > bell mobilty, i think a proxy server is my only hope. but im open to > suggestions. > thanks > Scott > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* S. Scott <8f27e956 at gmail.com> > *To:* Scott M > *Cc:* Benjamin L. Naber ; > "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" > *Sent:* Monday, February 4, 2013 6:49:43 PM > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] connection > > Which isp? > > --------------- > iThing: Big thumbs & little keys. Please excuse typo, spelling and > grammar errors . Thought of the Day -- "With all this manure, there > must be a pony in here somewhere." > > On 2013-02-04, at 17:33, Scott M > wrote: > >> Hi >> Thanks for the ideas, i removed the router and still no joy. My >> service provider has it blocked and will not open it. Looks like i >> will have to use a proxy server. >> Thanks again >> 73 >> Scott VA3XY >> >> >> >> Benjamin L. Naber > >> *To:* Scott M > >> *Cc:* "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org " >> > >> *Sent:* Monday, February 4, 2013 5:08:23 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Bulk] [App_rpt-users] connection >> >> I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make simple >> errors. >> >> Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is >> the port going to your allstarlink node. >> >> Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make sure >> it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. >> >> If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink >> node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to >> see if that help solve some issues. >> >> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ >> Allstar node 28569 >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: >> > Hi >> > I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router >> > portforwarded to 4569 udp. >> > thanks for any help. >> > Scott va3xy >> > _______________________________________________ >> > App_rpt-users mailing list >> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Naber ; "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" > Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 6:49:43 PM > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] connection > > Which isp? > > ????? > iThing: Big thumbs & little keys. Please excuse typo, spelling and grammar errors ? Thought of the Day ? "With all this manure, there must be a pony in here somewhere.? > > On 2013-02-04, at 17:33, Scott M wrote: > >> Hi >> Thanks for the ideas, i removed the router and still no joy. My service provider has it blocked and will not open it. Looks like i will have to use a proxy server. >> Thanks again >> 73 >> Scott VA3XY >> >> >> >> Benjamin L. Naber >> To: Scott M >> Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" >> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 5:08:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [Bulk] [App_rpt-users] connection >> >> I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but the best of us make simple >> errors. >> >> Check your portforward. Make sure port 4569 is the source and 4569 is >> the port going to your allstarlink node. >> >> Some routers will allow to you specify a source IP or network, make sure >> it's blank or 0.0.0.0 to allow all incoming connections to that port. >> >> If you are not using your DMZ, and all else fails, set the allstarlink >> node computer on the DMZ. Not a good idea, but do that temporarily to >> see if that help solve some issues. >> >> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ >> Allstar node 28569 >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 07:35 -0800, Scott M wrote: >> > Hi >> > I cannot receive connections to my node 29310 i have the router >> > portforwarded to 4569 udp. >> > thanks for any help. >> > Scott va3xy >> > _______________________________________________ >> > App_rpt-users mailing list >> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I use another macro to reset my node, disconnect links, and turn the telemetry back on when I am finished. 73, Eric 4Z5UG / WA6IGR Allstar Node: 28422 4Z5UG at guth.us Israel Direct: 077-950-9451 USA Direct: +1-720-377-3840 From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Chris Andrist Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:58 PM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Telemetry Does anybody know if there is a way to permanently turn off all non-local telemetry. For example: If I connect to another allstar node or another allstar node connects directly to me it should announce. Ir the same with echolink, but the telemetry from remote nodes is getting rather irritating. I know I can set telemdefault=0 and turn off all telemetry, but I want local telemetry. Regards, Chris, KC7WSU AllStar 29205-29214 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ir > the same with echolink, but the telemetry from remote nodes is getting > rather irritating. > > I know I can set telemdefault=0 and turn off all telemetry, but I want > local telemetry. > > Regards, > > Chris, KC7WSU > AllStar 29205-29214 > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 41.2jim at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 16:59:27 2013 From: 41.2jim at gmail.com (41.2 Jim) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:59:27 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch Message-ID: Is there any way to use my MagicJack VOIP Phone service or my Google Talk Account(if said companies allow it) for and Asterisk autopatch? It is already web based and should be able to be done, I'm just not smart enough to do it -- Jim Frederick KF6QBW IRLP Node #3911 AllStar Node #'s 28839, 28842, 28843 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n5zua at earthlink.net Fri Feb 8 18:34:03 2013 From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:34:03 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch References: Message-ID: <8D073EF615ED483C922519BE62B8FCFF@steveea3dc3d27> With a lot of help from another ham, I had Magic Jack working on one of my nodes a few years ago. Unfortunately, they made some security changes and after that point, it no longer worked. I switched to the Call Centric service and let my Magic Jack subscription expire. This was before Allstar began offering their service. N5ZUA ----- Original Message ----- From: 41.2 Jim To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:59 AM Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch Is there any way to use my MagicJack VOIP Phone service or my Google Talk Account(if said companies allow it) for and Asterisk autopatch? It is already web based and should be able to be done, I'm just not smart enough to do it -- Jim Frederick KF6QBW IRLP Node #3911 AllStar Node #'s 28839, 28842, 28843 From dshaw at ke6upi.com Sat Feb 9 16:31:53 2013 From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 08:31:53 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch In-Reply-To: <8D073EF615ED483C922519BE62B8FCFF@steveea3dc3d27> References: <8D073EF615ED483C922519BE62B8FCFF@steveea3dc3d27> Message-ID: Allstarlink.org has VoIP service for 5 bucks a month. Just sign up for it. David On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Steve Agee wrote: > With a lot of help from another ham, I had Magic Jack working on one of my > nodes a few years ago. Unfortunately, they made some security changes and > after that point, it no longer worked. I switched to the Call Centric > service and let my Magic Jack subscription expire. This was before Allstar > began offering their service. > > N5ZUA > > ----- Original Message ----- From: 41.2 Jim > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:59 AM > Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch > > > Is there any way to use my MagicJack VOIP Phone service or my Google Talk > Account(if said companies allow it) for and Asterisk autopatch? It is > already web based and should be able to be done, I'm just not smart enough > to do it > -- > Jim Frederick KF6QBW > IRLP Node #3911 > AllStar Node #'s > 28839, 28842, 28843 > > ______________________________**_________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/**mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buddy at brannan.name Sat Feb 9 16:53:01 2013 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 11:53:01 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Newsline, Again In-Reply-To: References: <8D073EF615ED483C922519BE62B8FCFF@steveea3dc3d27> Message-ID: <90E4D6AA-EF67-4BFA-8FF2-AF05D2078829@brannan.name> Hi, So, of course we can get Newsline over Echolink, but that bugs me, because the link unkeys every so often, which is OK, but it will do so in the middle of a word, which is annoying. So, I thought I could use playback to just play Newsline straight through after disabling the timeout timer. Only one problem with this: the ID's are held up until the sound file stops. Regularly scheduled ID's don't play, and the command to force an ID doesn't play one. So, would setting up an extension to do a playback, as documented here: http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/newsline-asterisk.html circumvent this problem? And, if so, would it be access via the auto patch as usual, i.e. *6 followed by the extension? Thanks-- -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:31 AM, David KE6UPI wrote: > Allstarlink.org has VoIP service for 5 bucks a month. Just sign up for it. > > David > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Steve Agee wrote: > With a lot of help from another ham, I had Magic Jack working on one of my nodes a few years ago. Unfortunately, they made some security changes and after that point, it no longer worked. I switched to the Call Centric service and let my Magic Jack subscription expire. This was before Allstar began offering their service. > > N5ZUA > > ----- Original Message ----- From: 41.2 Jim > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:59 AM > Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch > > > Is there any way to use my MagicJack VOIP Phone service or my Google Talk Account(if said companies allow it) for and Asterisk autopatch? It is already web based and should be able to be done, I'm just not smart enough to do it > -- > Jim Frederick KF6QBW > IRLP Node #3911 > AllStar Node #'s > 28839, 28842, 28843 > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From ke2n at cs.com Sat Feb 9 17:28:56 2013 From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 12:28:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Newsline, Again In-Reply-To: <90E4D6AA-EF67-4BFA-8FF2-AF05D2078829@brannan.name> References: <8D073EF615ED483C922519BE62B8FCFF@steveea3dc3d27> <90E4D6AA-EF67-4BFA-8FF2-AF05D2078829@brannan.name> Message-ID: <8CFD5021288E81E-12B0-1C5F9@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/129 I think this one is not held. In any case, when you download a file from ARNewsline, they have spots in the recording (marked by beeps) where you are supposed to insert an ID ... 73 Ken -----Original Message----- From: Buddy Brannan To: app_rpt mailing list Sent: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 5:53 pm Subject: [App_rpt-users] Newsline, Again Hi, So, of course we can get Newsline over Echolink, but that bugs me, because the link unkeys every so often, which is OK, but it will do so in the middle of a word, which is annoying. So, I thought I could use playback to just play Newsline straight through after disabling the timeout timer. Only one problem with this: the ID's are held up until the sound file stops. Regularly scheduled ID's don't play, and the command to force an ID doesn't play one. So, would setting up an extension to do a playback, as documented here: http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/newsline-asterisk.html circumvent this problem? And, if so, would it be access via the auto patch as usual, i.e. *6 followed by the extension? Thanks-- -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:31 AM, David KE6UPI wrote: > Allstarlink.org has VoIP service for 5 bucks a month. Just sign up for it. > > David > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Steve Agee wrote: > With a lot of help from another ham, I had Magic Jack working on one of my nodes a few years ago. Unfortunately, they made some security changes and after that point, it no longer worked. I switched to the Call Centric service and let my Magic Jack subscription expire. This was before Allstar began offering their service. > > N5ZUA > > ----- Original Message ----- From: 41.2 Jim > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:59 AM > Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch > > > Is there any way to use my MagicJack VOIP Phone service or my Google Talk Account(if said companies allow it) for and Asterisk autopatch? 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URL: From buddy at brannan.name Sat Feb 9 18:15:57 2013 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:15:57 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Newsline, Again In-Reply-To: <8CFD5021288E81E-12B0-1C5F9@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D073EF615ED483C922519BE62B8FCFF@steveea3dc3d27> <90E4D6AA-EF67-4BFA-8FF2-AF05D2078829@brannan.name> <8CFD5021288E81E-12B0-1C5F9@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I knew about idtalkover, and I'm fairly sure it's set in the configuration I use for news. I'll double check, but if it is set, that ID also is held. Also know about the ID breaks, but settings up ID's here would involve a manual edit of the file to split. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Ken wrote: > see > http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/129 > > I think this one is not held. > > In any case, when you download a file from ARNewsline, they have spots in the recording (marked by beeps) where you are supposed to insert an ID ... > > 73 > Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Buddy Brannan > To: app_rpt mailing list > Sent: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 5:53 pm > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Newsline, Again > > Hi, > > So, of course we can get Newsline over Echolink, but that bugs me, because the > link unkeys every so often, which is OK, but it will do so in the middle of a > word, which is annoying. So, I thought I could use playback to just play > Newsline straight through after disabling the timeout timer. Only one problem > with this: the ID's are held up until the sound file stops. Regularly scheduled > ID's don't play, and the command to force an ID doesn't play one. > > So, would setting up an extension to do a playback, as documented here: > > http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/newsline-asterisk.html > > > circumvent this problem? > > And, if so, would it be access via the auto patch as usual, i.e. *6 followed by > the extension? > > Thanks-- > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:31 AM, David KE6UPI < > dshaw at ke6upi.com > > wrote: > > > Allstarlink.org has VoIP service for 5 bucks a month. Just sign up for it. > > > > David > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Steve Agee < > n5zua at earthlink.net > > wrote: > > With a lot of help from another ham, I had Magic Jack working on one of my > nodes a few years ago. Unfortunately, they made some security changes and after > that point, it no longer worked. I switched to the Call Centric service and let > my Magic Jack subscription expire. This was before Allstar began offering their > service. > > > > N5ZUA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: 41.2 Jim > > To: > app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:59 AM > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch > > > > > > Is there any way to use my MagicJack VOIP Phone service or my Google Talk > Account(if said companies allow it) for and Asterisk autopatch? It is already > web based and should be able to be done, I'm just not smart enough to do it > > -- > > Jim Frederick KF6QBW > > IRLP Node #3911 > > AllStar Node #'s > > 28839, 28842, 28843 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From n9udo at yellowthunder.org Sat Feb 9 18:48:55 2013 From: n9udo at yellowthunder.org (Steve Schulze) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 12:48:55 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Newsline, Again In-Reply-To: <8CFD5021288E81E-12B0-1C5F9@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D073EF615ED483C922519BE62B8FCFF@steveea3dc3d27> <90E4D6AA-EF67-4BFA-8FF2-AF05D2078829@brannan.name> <8CFD5021288E81E-12B0-1C5F9@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <51169A17.6030500@yellowthunder.org> I have used the script located here http://ki6psp.blogspot.com/2010/09/arrl-news-on-allstar-node.html with some modifications. Works great! Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html On 2/9/2013 11:28, Ken wrote: > see > http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/129 > I think this one is not held. > In any case, when you download a file from ARNewsline, they have spots > in the recording (marked by beeps) where you are supposed to insert an > ID ... > 73 > Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Buddy Brannan > To: app_rpt mailing list > Sent: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 5:53 pm > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Newsline, Again > > Hi, > > So, of course we can get Newsline over Echolink, but that bugs me, because the > link unkeys every so often, which is OK, but it will do so in the middle of a > word, which is annoying. So, I thought I could use playback to just play > Newsline straight through after disabling the timeout timer. Only one problem > with this: the ID's are held up until the sound file stops. Regularly scheduled > ID's don't play, and the command to force an ID doesn't play one. > > So, would setting up an extension to do a playback, as documented here: > http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/newsline-asterisk.html > > circumvent this problem? > > And, if so, would it be access via the auto patch as usual, i.e. *6 followed by > the extension? > > Thanks-- > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:31 AM, David KE6UPI > wrote: > > > Allstarlink.org has VoIP service for 5 bucks a month. Just sign up for it. > > > > David > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Steve Agee > wrote: > > With a lot of help from another ham, I had Magic Jack working on one of my > nodes a few years ago. Unfortunately, they made some security changes and after > that point, it no longer worked. I switched to the Call Centric service and let > my Magic Jack subscription expire. This was before Allstar began offering their > service. > > > > N5ZUA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: 41.2 Jim > > To:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:59 AM > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] VOIP autopatch > > > > > > Is there any way to use my MagicJack VOIP Phone service or my Google Talk > Account(if said companies allow it) for and Asterisk autopatch? It is already > web based and should be able to be done, I'm just not smart enough to do it > > -- > > Jim Frederick KF6QBW > > IRLP Node #3911 > > AllStar Node #'s > > 28839, 28842, 28843 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ke6pcv at cal-net.org Sun Feb 10 01:54:20 2013 From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:54:20 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cable Adapter Card for Kenwood TMG-707A to URI Message-ID: <7B90A77AD9524BAD996FC61B43FE8D82@marshall2> Greetings, Several months ago there were a few people on the list that were interested in the Kenwood TMG-707A radio to DMK URO interface boards for agile remote base use. We have made a "limited quantity" run of (bare-boards) for use with the Kenwood TMG-707A radio to the DMK URI interface board. These boards are used as an interface between your all-star computer with a DB9 serial port and your Kenwood TMG-707A radio to remotely control your radio. The board plugs directly into the end of the URI with the 25 pin connector, and a serial port on your PC device. These boards use all standard thru-hole parts that takes very little specialized skills to construct. You can go to this website to see what the boards look like. http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/162 I also have an updated bill of material parts list from digikey for the new boards. If you are interested in purchasing these boards please contact me off the list. (ke6pcv at gmail dot com) First come first serve as I only have small quantity! 73 Marshall - ke6pcv From adamson_alan at hotmail.com Sun Feb 10 03:05:02 2013 From: adamson_alan at hotmail.com (Alan Adamson) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 22:05:02 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] for those who might be brave In-Reply-To: <043601ce00ea$5f3d6750$1db835f0$@hotmail.com> References: <043601ce00ea$5f3d6750$1db835f0$@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Jim, I might have missed this. Not sure how this relates to Centos 6.x, but I've had Allstar running on Debian Squeeze, a 2.6.32 kernel for a year (I just happen to be running it as 64 bit as well). I had to make numerous changes to support the new kernel (it should support 2.6 and 3.x) and the build environment. We created a Git for what we had basically done. It's about 8 mos old now so I probably need to refresh it with the latest sources/diffs and then make sure it would build from scratch. As an aside, I figured I'd also try to build this version on a Beagle Bone, also running Debian Squeeze Lots of ifs to the above, but you never know, it might build - course who knows if it will run :) I'll report back on my attempt and if I can re-figure it out, maybe I can help you with what you've done with your references below. Alan From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 8:55 PM To: app_rpt mailing list Subject: [App_rpt-users] for those who might be brave I have made some source updates to attempt to support installations on newer 2.6.X kernels (such as the one for Centos 6.X). Could someone using chan_usbradio possibly load Centos 6.3 (32 bit) on a system, with the appropriate packages (see the phase1.sh and phase2.sh scripts in the acid/trunk directory on the SVN), and see if the darned thing works? I havent even tried it on a 64 bit install. Well, it compiles, darn it!!! :-) Jim WB6NIL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From telesistant at hotmail.com Sun Feb 10 03:42:42 2013 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 19:42:42 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] for those who might be brave In-Reply-To: References: <043601ce00ea$5f3d6750$1db835f0$@hotmail.com>, Message-ID: Thanx... I already tried it and it works nicely From: adamson_alan at hotmail.com To: telesistant at hotmail.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] for those who might be brave Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 22:05:02 -0500 Jim, I might have missed this. Not sure how this relates to Centos 6.x, but I've had Allstar running on Debian Squeeze, a 2.6.32 kernel for a year (I just happen to be running it as 64 bit as well). I had to make numerous changes to support the new kernel (it should support 2.6 and 3.x) and the build environment. We created a Git for what we had basically done? It's about 8 mos old now so I probably need to refresh it with the latest sources/diffs and then make sure it would build from scratch? As an aside, I figured I'd also try to build this version on a Beagle Bone, also running Debian Squeeze Lots of ifs to the above, but you never know, it might build - course who knows if it will run :) I'll report back on my attempt and if I can re-figure it out, maybe I can help you with what you've done with your references below. Alan From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 8:55 PM To: app_rpt mailing list Subject: [App_rpt-users] for those who might be brave I have made some source updates to attempt to support installations on newer 2.6.X kernels (such as the one for Centos 6.X). Could someone using chan_usbradio possibly load Centos 6.3 (32 bit) on a system, with the appropriate packages (see the phase1.sh and phase2.sh scripts in the acid/trunk directory on the SVN), and see if the darned thing works? I havent even tried it on a 64 bit install. Well, it compiles, darn it!!! :-) Jim WB6NIL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Take a look at this : http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/home.php This will cut up an MP3 into segments based on time, or where it finds a definable length period of silence. Somewhere on that site is buried a Linux command line version. Or do a Google search for "mp3splt command line". -- Robert A. Poff Loganville, PA S/V Loon 1983 Hunter 34 Havre de Grace, MD. WB3AWJ - Allstar 27784 Powered by Linux -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vk3tkk at yahoo.com.au Mon Feb 11 10:11:21 2013 From: vk3tkk at yahoo.com.au (Peter Watkins) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:11:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] New node assistance Message-ID: <1360577481.8612.YahooMailNeo@web161705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi, Recently, I've set the audio with a URI and an Alinco rig along with an app_rpt box (node 27183). I'm a complete newbie to Asterisk/app_rpt and am interested in learning about the system.? I've looked and tried some of the commands on the ohnosec but I've had no success with the system. Operating from the CLI (asterisk -r) I see the software detects TX via 'radio set debug' but, beyond that, I'm a little lost. I've also tried the troubleshooting page on the same website and everything seems OK, and I've set the appropriate port number on the router. I'm quite happy to read and learn about the system - if someone could assist and put me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. 73 Peter VK3TKK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've looked and tried some of the commands on the ohnosec but I've had no success with the system. Operating from the CLI (asterisk -r) I see the software detects TX via 'radio set debug' but, beyond that, I'm a little lost. I've also tried the troubleshooting page on the same website and everything seems OK, and I've set the appropriate port number on the router. I'm quite happy to read and learn about the system - if someone could assist and put me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. 73 Peter VK3TKK _______________________________________________ pp_rpt-users mailing list pp_rpt-users at ohnosec.org ttp://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I could live with simpleusb if needed. > > Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb > type node?If so, what are they? > <-- Hi Alan; Best candidate (IMO) is a HP Thin Client - something like the HP T5710; you can pick them up off eBay for as little as $25US (you have to look out for them!) - then there is a mod' to remove the memory module and install a 4GB micro-drive. You can install ACID right off an external (USB) CD. The HP will run chan_simpleusb just fine. Low cost / works great / low power (runs off 12V / 13.8VDC @ ~ 650mA). Cheers! Ramesh. From w7ry at centurytel.net Tue Feb 12 01:51:31 2013 From: w7ry at centurytel.net (Jim W7RY) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:51:31 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simple node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55A70FD258BA4BED9ADC27B8E14DF322@JimsLaptop> Simple nodeA Dell D600 laptop and a Chinese handheld. 73 Jim W7RY From: Alan Adamson Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:04 PM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simple node All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check again? Yes I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm looking to get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. Was hoping that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone as the Pi seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb if needed. Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb type node? If so, what are they? 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I'm looking to get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. Was hoping that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone as the Pi seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb if needed. Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb type node? If so, what are they? Thanks in advance, Alan _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kuggie at kuggie.com Tue Feb 12 02:08:22 2013 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:08:22 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simple node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5119A416.9000808@kuggie.com> On 2/11/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: > Simple node > > All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check again... > Yes I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm looking > to get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. Was > hoping that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone > as the Pi seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb > if needed. > > */Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb > type node?/**/If so, what are they?/* > Here is the latest fad in WAN land... Intel D2500HN Main Board (about $65) 2G memory (about $12) 16 G Solid State hard drive (about $40) Case and PS (about $50) So, for about $175 you can have a new box that runs the standard distro that isn't too large and is quite reliable. I have built 6 of these systems that are replacing older Dell and HP machines that were junk when I put them in service, but have served quite well. Kevin - WJ8G wanrepeater.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adamson_alan at hotmail.com Tue Feb 12 02:12:24 2013 From: adamson_alan at hotmail.com (Alan Adamson) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:12:24 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simple node In-Reply-To: <01be01ce08c6$111dde40$33599ac0$@kuggie.com> References: <01be01ce08c6$111dde40$33599ac0$@kuggie.com> Message-ID: You guys are the best. :). I think I pioneered this type of node.. .I use the dn2800mt board, with an SSD drive and small case. I know I can go that way, am looking for even cheaper options (hoping to stay small too). Ramesh sent me some info on these thin clients that I need to check out. Alan From: Kevin Custer [mailto:kuggie at kuggie.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:08 PM To: Alan Adamson Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Simple node On 2/11/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check again. Yes I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm looking to get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. Was hoping that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone as the Pi seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb if needed. Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb type node? If so, what are they? Here is the latest fad in WAN land... Intel D2500HN Main Board (about $65) 2G memory (about $12) 16 G Solid State hard drive (about $40) Case and PS (about $50) So, for about $175 you can have a new box that runs the standard distro that isn't too large and is quite reliable. I have built 6 of these systems that are replacing older Dell and HP machines that were junk when I put them in service, but have served quite well. Kevin - WJ8G wanrepeater.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w7ry at centurytel.net Tue Feb 12 05:29:08 2013 From: w7ry at centurytel.net (Jim W7RY) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:29:08 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes Message-ID: <94DD1E6D71AB42809810C7871A53D953@JimsLaptop> I found this schematic on line for a UV5R. http://files.radioscanner.ru/files/download/file14137/shema-baofeng-5r.pdf There is COR voltage along with some transistors that control the TDA-2822 audio chip. There is also a discrete volume control too. So you can get fixed de-emphasised RX audio to drive a URI. So it looks like the UV5r would be a good candidate for a node radio and long as you use the internal PL decoder which would be fine. 73 Jim W7RY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n3fe at repeater.net Tue Feb 12 13:01:42 2013 From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:01:42 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes In-Reply-To: <94DD1E6D71AB42809810C7871A53D953@JimsLaptop> References: <94DD1E6D71AB42809810C7871A53D953@JimsLaptop> Message-ID: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E04832BF53133@exchange.mail.repeater.net> But the question is, will the radio hold up to the key up times? Corey N3FE From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim W7RY Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:29 AM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes I found this schematic on line for a UV5R. http://files.radioscanner.ru/files/download/file14137/shema-baofeng-5r.pdf There is COR voltage along with some transistors that control the TDA-2822 audio chip. There is also a discrete volume control too. So you can get fixed de-emphasised RX audio to drive a URI. So it looks like the UV5r would be a good candidate for a node radio and long as you use the internal PL decoder which would be fine. 73 Jim W7RY -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w7ry at centurytel.net Tue Feb 12 14:49:10 2013 From: w7ry at centurytel.net (Jim W7RY) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:49:10 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fw: Chinese Radios For Nodes Message-ID: <9C7D737305094E71BBFE11D6DC53F366@JimsLaptop> No need to re-thing this Kirk. It would work fine for a simple node. Now if you wanted to monitor the Win System with 100% duty cycle, you may have a point. But that is not the intent of my posting. 73 Jim W7RY From: Kirk Just Kirk Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:35 PM To: Jim W7RY Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes i dont mean to be disrespectful...but WHY would you use a POOR PERFORMING UV-5R when for less than $50 you could use a Maxtrac or Radius mobile????? RCVR performance is dismal at best with poor image rejection,lousy dynamic range and the selectivity of a barn door? The first time it stays keyed for 10 minutes you will be the proud owner of a colorful chinese blob of smoldering plastic.... Seriously...rethink this??? Kirk (WB6EGR) On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Jim W7RY wrote: I found this schematic on line for a UV5R. http://files.radioscanner.ru/files/download/file14137/shema-baofeng-5r.pdf There is COR voltage along with some transistors that control the TDA-2822 audio chip. There is also a discrete volume control too. So you can get fixed de-emphasised RX audio to drive a URI. So it looks like the UV5r would be a good candidate for a node radio and long as you use the internal PL decoder which would be fine. 73 Jim W7RY _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w7ry at centurytel.net Tue Feb 12 14:49:42 2013 From: w7ry at centurytel.net (Jim W7RY) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:49:42 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes In-Reply-To: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E04832BF53133@exchange.mail.repeater.net> References: <94DD1E6D71AB42809810C7871A53D953@JimsLaptop> <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E04832BF53133@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Message-ID: Buy one and find out. I have no idea. 73 Jim W7RY From: Corey Dean Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:01 AM To: Jim W7RY ; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes But the question is, will the radio hold up to the key up times? Corey N3FE From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jim W7RY Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:29 AM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes I found this schematic on line for a UV5R. http://files.radioscanner.ru/files/download/file14137/shema-baofeng-5r.pdf There is COR voltage along with some transistors that control the TDA-2822 audio chip. There is also a discrete volume control too. So you can get fixed de-emphasised RX audio to drive a URI. So it looks like the UV5r would be a good candidate for a node radio and long as you use the internal PL decoder which would be fine. 73 Jim W7RY -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Tue Feb 12 14:58:16 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:58:16 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes In-Reply-To: References: <94DD1E6D71AB42809810C7871A53D953@JimsLaptop> <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E04832BF53133@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Message-ID: <511A5888.2050502@bdboyle.com> On 2/12/13 9:49 AM, Jim W7RY wrote: > Buy one and find out. I have no idea. > In building a cross-band repeater out of a couple of wouxuns with 12V battery replacement backs...the power adapter that was attached to the back lasted about a month before it melted and pulled the contacts away, but the radios were fine. The cheapie radios are suitable for ICAS service. Don't cheap out if you're looking to put up or fill in on an active system. For occasional use? In a car as a limited-use 'backyard' system? Probably be ok. Connected to an active network or high-use repeater network? Do it right or don't do it at all. -- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me. Sent from my MacBook Pro. From kuggie at kuggie.com Tue Feb 12 15:56:16 2013 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:56:16 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fw: Chinese Radios For Nodes In-Reply-To: <9C7D737305094E71BBFE11D6DC53F366@JimsLaptop> References: <9C7D737305094E71BBFE11D6DC53F366@JimsLaptop> Message-ID: <511A6620.9070306@kuggie.com> I must have to respectfully disagree with Kirk as well. Many times, from a real repeater site, communications can be done with very little power. A local coverage node (inside ones house) can be done on low power as well. The UV-5R will handle multiple 3 minute key-downs on low power without turning into a plastic blob (remote base operation). CTCSS hides most receiver inadequacies. Not everyone has ready access to programming hardware and software need for a Maxtrac or Radius, so these cheap Chinese radios can be moved in frequency without effort. Sure, they're not a Motorola, but many times users of AllStar don't necessarily need a Motorola quality radio. That said, one of my most favorite radios for dedicated linking is a MaraTrac. The VHF 100 Watt model usually is very cheap and it's easy to convert them to a lower powered unit by snipping out several components and using solder wick to 'bypass' the 2 final transistors. You end up with a 15 Watt unit that will last almost forever. Bottom line - it's all in what you want and need. Kevin - WJ8G > No need to re-thing this Kirk. It would work fine for a simple node. > Now if you wanted to monitor the Win System with 100% duty cycle, you > may have a point. But that is not the intent of my posting. > 73 > Jim W7RY > *From:* Kirk Just Kirk > *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2013 9:35 PM > *To:* Jim W7RY > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Chinese Radios For Nodes > i dont mean to be disrespectful...but WHY would you use a POOR > PERFORMING UV-5R when for less than $50 you could use a Maxtrac or > Radius mobile????? > RCVR performance is dismal at best with poor image rejection,lousy > dynamic range and the selectivity of a barn door? > The first time it stays keyed for 10 minutes you will be the proud > owner of a colorful chinese blob of smoldering plastic.... > Seriously...rethink this??? > Kirk (WB6EGR) > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Jim W7RY > wrote: > > I found this schematic on line for a UV5R. > http://files.radioscanner.ru/files/download/file14137/shema-baofeng-5r.pdf > There is COR voltage along with some transistors that control the > TDA-2822 audio chip. There is also a discrete volume control too. > So you can get fixed de-emphasised RX audio to drive a URI. So it > looks like the UV5r would be a good candidate for a node radio and > long as you use the internal PL decoder which would be fine. > 73 > Jim W7RY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edgecomberts at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 18:27:58 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 05:27:58 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simocos - opinions, thoughts, otherwise? Message-ID: Hello all, I was following the Chinese radio discussion with interest, and I thought I'd share that I almost exclusively use Simoco UHF and VHF radios these days, in particular, SRM9005s with a 9025 head. I wanted to garner some thoughts on their use. I'll lead the discussion, these radios were selected by myself and my friend over Motorola and over Vertex-Standard. We were actually going to go with a VX-2200 on UHF, and I was going to try to get access to the programming software. I had access to the VX-2500 software at some point. One night in discussion with my friend, I'd idly mentioned Simocos, and he brought them up on a webpage. At this point, I'd never seen one in real life, and knew little about them except they were 25Watt commercial radios that should be able to do the 70cm band as well as Australias "UHF CB" band (477MHz). I'm talking about the 9000 series here, I've only just borrowed a SRP9100 recently. My friends said I might be onto something here. Looking into them myself, I found the programming software is available for free, runs under WiNE (important for me as a Linux and Mac geek - see my posts on IAXRpt under Mac OS X 10.7/ 10.8), the radios could be expanded by means of a "card" that goes under the radio board inside the chassis, choice of heads, and lastly, I found them cheap - in the UK, far away from my native Australia. After a while, myself and my friend, and yup, his father, had a collection of SRM9000s, and Andrew and his Dad, David, got portables. Andrew and David fitted an SRM9000 series to their cars. I am bereft of a car at this point, I buy too many model trains... but anyway, my units were cheap, as they are both not P25 compatible - as new condition, open box format. I have found them solid and reliable radios. Something I learned later, after I had gotten the radios was that you could feasibly control them via computer over the control head interface - a TTL level RS232 serial port! And just recently, after Jim had introduced me the the RTCM, Andrew and I have decided to make a "unofficial" expansion card for the SRM series we call "VoterCard." Its like the RTCM, but adds a GPSDO for full synchronised transmit capabilities, and a PoE interface for connecting to Ubiquiti equipment, such as a Bullet or a Loco M2. Sometimes the most innocent discussions get you into the most trouble... VoterCard is still on the drawing board. I have most of the parts to prototype a system, such as the GPS, and an RTCM, but I need a filter for the GPSDO, and I need to "glue" it together. We're going to use a uBlox LEA-6T module, a custom designed board to fit in the radio, and mod the radio itself to change over the LO from local to GPSDO. Externally, the board will have a network port, a Cisco serial port (at proper RS232 levels - +/-12VDC) and a GPS antenna connector. The back of the radio will need to be modified a little bit, but thats ok - its plastic! VoterCard was designed for us, for our application of a public safety radio network, most likely operating on UHF CB, over a large and mountainous geographical area. The system has to be completely bulletproof, and able to operate unattended for a number of days. As an extension, I want this system for my proposed business, so we can save on mobile phone calls. System health would be monitored from a central location, ie, the monitoring software whose name I've forgotten just now. Now, I've heard of the GPSDO and RTCM thing being done with Motorola radios, but I ask, wouldn't it be better if the whole she-bang was *inside* the chassis of the radio? Make it nice and neat, thats for sure. So, thoughts everyone? I know Motorola is popular with the Americans, but have any of you ever used Simocos, and your thoughts on them - and this plan for VoterCard? Thanks everyone! Shane. From ac6vj at cds1.net Tue Feb 12 18:43:22 2013 From: ac6vj at cds1.net (Gregory) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:43:22 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] FW: drug override Message-ID: John, I am returning to the Green Cove and need a drug override for 120 days worth of drugs for the following prescriptions. 1. SIMVASTATIN 20MG TAB 1 Tablet Daily 2. FENOFIBRATE 145MG TAB 1 Tablet Daily 3. WELCHOL 625MG TAB 3 Tablets Twice Daily 4. LAVAZA 120 CAP 2 Capsules Twice Daily Gregory Gordon West Coast, Representative American Radio Association' AFL-CIO -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wb6egr at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 18:57:53 2013 From: wb6egr at gmail.com (Kirk Just Kirk) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:57:53 -1000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simocos - opinions, thoughts, otherwise? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Never seen one yet, but sounds like I need to get my hands on one (or more) thanks for the heads-up! Kirk On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Shane Morris wrote: > Hello all, > > I was following the Chinese radio discussion with interest, and I > thought I'd share that I almost exclusively use Simoco UHF and VHF > radios these days, in particular, SRM9005s with a 9025 head. I wanted > to garner some thoughts on their use. > > I'll lead the discussion, these radios were selected by myself and my > friend over Motorola and over Vertex-Standard. We were actually going > to go with a VX-2200 on UHF, and I was going to try to get access to > the programming software. I had access to the VX-2500 software at some > point. > > One night in discussion with my friend, I'd idly mentioned Simocos, > and he brought them up on a webpage. At this point, I'd never seen one > in real life, and knew little about them except they were 25Watt > commercial radios that should be able to do the 70cm band as well as > Australias "UHF CB" band (477MHz). I'm talking about the 9000 series > here, I've only just borrowed a SRP9100 recently. > > My friends said I might be onto something here. Looking into them > myself, I found the programming software is available for free, runs > under WiNE (important for me as a Linux and Mac geek - see my posts on > IAXRpt under Mac OS X 10.7/ 10.8), the radios could be expanded by > means of a "card" that goes under the radio board inside the chassis, > choice of heads, and lastly, I found them cheap - in the UK, far away > from my native Australia. > > After a while, myself and my friend, and yup, his father, had a > collection of SRM9000s, and Andrew and his Dad, David, got portables. > Andrew and David fitted an SRM9000 series to their cars. I am bereft > of a car at this point, I buy too many model trains... but anyway, my > units were cheap, as they are both not P25 compatible - as new > condition, open box format. I have found them solid and reliable > radios. > > Something I learned later, after I had gotten the radios was that you > could feasibly control them via computer over the control head > interface - a TTL level RS232 serial port! And just recently, after > Jim had introduced me the the RTCM, Andrew and I have decided to make > a "unofficial" expansion card for the SRM series we call "VoterCard." > Its like the RTCM, but adds a GPSDO for full synchronised transmit > capabilities, and a PoE interface for connecting to Ubiquiti > equipment, such as a Bullet or a Loco M2. > > Sometimes the most innocent discussions get you into the most trouble... > > VoterCard is still on the drawing board. I have most of the parts to > prototype a system, such as the GPS, and an RTCM, but I need a filter > for the GPSDO, and I need to "glue" it together. We're going to use a > uBlox LEA-6T module, a custom designed board to fit in the radio, and > mod the radio itself to change over the LO from local to GPSDO. > Externally, the board will have a network port, a Cisco serial port > (at proper RS232 levels - +/-12VDC) and a GPS antenna connector. The > back of the radio will need to be modified a little bit, but thats ok > - its plastic! > > VoterCard was designed for us, for our application of a public safety > radio network, most likely operating on UHF CB, over a large and > mountainous geographical area. The system has to be completely > bulletproof, and able to operate unattended for a number of days. As > an extension, I want this system for my proposed business, so we can > save on mobile phone calls. System health would be monitored from a > central location, ie, the monitoring software whose name I've > forgotten just now. > > Now, I've heard of the GPSDO and RTCM thing being done with Motorola > radios, but I ask, wouldn't it be better if the whole she-bang was > *inside* the chassis of the radio? Make it nice and neat, thats for > sure. > > So, thoughts everyone? I know Motorola is popular with the Americans, > but have any of you ever used Simocos, and your thoughts on them - and > this plan for VoterCard? > > Thanks everyone! > > Shane. > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Gregory wrote: > ** ** > > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > John,**** > > ** ** > > I am returning to the Green Cove and need a drug override for 120 days > worth of drugs for the following prescriptions.**** > > ** ** > > **1. **SIMVASTATIN 20MG TAB 1 Tablet Daily**** > > **2. **FENOFIBRATE 145MG TAB 1 Tablet Daily**** > > **3. **WELCHOL 625MG TAB 3 Tablets Twice Daily**** > > **4. **LAVAZA 120 CAP 2 Capsules Twice Daily**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Gregory Gordon West Coast, Representative**** > > American Radio Association' AFL-CIO**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edgecomberts at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 19:01:34 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 06:01:34 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simocos - opinions, thoughts, otherwise? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The best place I've found to get them, well, in terms of cheapness, is: www.rescuesupply.co.uk However, since he orders them from Australia as needed, it could take a while - we have a three month turn around (from .AU to .UK, back to .AU from .UK). Tell him I sent you, but don't buy him out, hehe...! ^.^ On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Kirk Just Kirk wrote: > Never seen one yet, but sounds like I need to get my hands on one (or more) > thanks for the heads-up! > > Kirk > > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Shane Morris > wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> I was following the Chinese radio discussion with interest, and I >> thought I'd share that I almost exclusively use Simoco UHF and VHF >> radios these days, in particular, SRM9005s with a 9025 head. I wanted >> to garner some thoughts on their use. >> >> I'll lead the discussion, these radios were selected by myself and my >> friend over Motorola and over Vertex-Standard. We were actually going >> to go with a VX-2200 on UHF, and I was going to try to get access to >> the programming software. I had access to the VX-2500 software at some >> point. >> >> One night in discussion with my friend, I'd idly mentioned Simocos, >> and he brought them up on a webpage. At this point, I'd never seen one >> in real life, and knew little about them except they were 25Watt >> commercial radios that should be able to do the 70cm band as well as >> Australias "UHF CB" band (477MHz). I'm talking about the 9000 series >> here, I've only just borrowed a SRP9100 recently. >> >> My friends said I might be onto something here. Looking into them >> myself, I found the programming software is available for free, runs >> under WiNE (important for me as a Linux and Mac geek - see my posts on >> IAXRpt under Mac OS X 10.7/ 10.8), the radios could be expanded by >> means of a "card" that goes under the radio board inside the chassis, >> choice of heads, and lastly, I found them cheap - in the UK, far away >> from my native Australia. >> >> After a while, myself and my friend, and yup, his father, had a >> collection of SRM9000s, and Andrew and his Dad, David, got portables. >> Andrew and David fitted an SRM9000 series to their cars. I am bereft >> of a car at this point, I buy too many model trains... but anyway, my >> units were cheap, as they are both not P25 compatible - as new >> condition, open box format. I have found them solid and reliable >> radios. >> >> Something I learned later, after I had gotten the radios was that you >> could feasibly control them via computer over the control head >> interface - a TTL level RS232 serial port! And just recently, after >> Jim had introduced me the the RTCM, Andrew and I have decided to make >> a "unofficial" expansion card for the SRM series we call "VoterCard." >> Its like the RTCM, but adds a GPSDO for full synchronised transmit >> capabilities, and a PoE interface for connecting to Ubiquiti >> equipment, such as a Bullet or a Loco M2. >> >> Sometimes the most innocent discussions get you into the most trouble... >> >> VoterCard is still on the drawing board. I have most of the parts to >> prototype a system, such as the GPS, and an RTCM, but I need a filter >> for the GPSDO, and I need to "glue" it together. We're going to use a >> uBlox LEA-6T module, a custom designed board to fit in the radio, and >> mod the radio itself to change over the LO from local to GPSDO. >> Externally, the board will have a network port, a Cisco serial port >> (at proper RS232 levels - +/-12VDC) and a GPS antenna connector. The >> back of the radio will need to be modified a little bit, but thats ok >> - its plastic! >> >> VoterCard was designed for us, for our application of a public safety >> radio network, most likely operating on UHF CB, over a large and >> mountainous geographical area. The system has to be completely >> bulletproof, and able to operate unattended for a number of days. As >> an extension, I want this system for my proposed business, so we can >> save on mobile phone calls. System health would be monitored from a >> central location, ie, the monitoring software whose name I've >> forgotten just now. >> >> Now, I've heard of the GPSDO and RTCM thing being done with Motorola >> radios, but I ask, wouldn't it be better if the whole she-bang was >> *inside* the chassis of the radio? Make it nice and neat, thats for >> sure. >> >> So, thoughts everyone? I know Motorola is popular with the Americans, >> but have any of you ever used Simocos, and your thoughts on them - and >> this plan for VoterCard? >> >> Thanks everyone! >> >> Shane. >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > From n9udo at yellowthunder.org Tue Feb 12 23:54:41 2013 From: n9udo at yellowthunder.org (Steve Schulze) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:54:41 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Timeout Issue Message-ID: <511AD641.9090505@yellowthunder.org> Hello all. I'm currently having a problem with time-out on 27727. We are playing ARRL Audio News from the AllStarBox and about 3-1/2 to 4 minutes into it I get a 27727 time out. I have the node setup as duplex=0 and linktolink=yes and have the totime=180000 commented out (for no tot). I have tried to play this file from the box and also from my other node 27616 and I have the same result. 27727 times out but 27616 keeps playing over the air (on it's own box and own repeater) Watching the Asterisk CLI, I actually see the system time out. I see it speak 2 7 7 2 7 RPT/TIMEOUT then HANGUP. But I don't hear the timeout over the air because the system has already unkeyed. I have verified that the PTT has stopped when this occurs and it's not the timers on the SCOM 7330 causing it. Am I missing some other timer in one of the other conf files? Also, the time-out varies. Not exactly the same time, each time. But consistently 3-1/2 to 4 minutes. Thanks in advance! -- Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html From wb3awj at comcast.net Wed Feb 13 00:34:44 2013 From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert a. Poff) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:34:44 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Timeout Issue In-Reply-To: <511AD641.9090505@yellowthunder.org> References: <511AD641.9090505@yellowthunder.org> Message-ID: Have you tried executing COP 7 (Timeout timer disable) before starting the playback? And COP 8 (Timeout timer enable) after? -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Wed Feb 13 00:38:46 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:38:46 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node In-Reply-To: <51199F69.1020506@va3uv.com> References: <51199F69.1020506@va3uv.com> Message-ID: <1360715926.2164.149.camel@benjamin-hp> You may be able to get away with not buying a micro-drive which will fail sooner than later. Use Limey Linux. I have a Neoware which was bought out by HP. Neoware and HP thin clients have VIA chipsets in there, ie microprocessor, ethernet controller, audio, and Super i/o which controls your serial, parallel ports among other things. I used the K0KN PLRI interface that I was able to build from parts in my junk box. After a little solder smoke filled the air, made a few adjustments, the URI was working for the TX. I use the inexpensive StarTech USB sound FOB for TX/RX audio, and have the settings set to DSP to detech RX audio and CTCSS tone. After it was setup with a service monitor, it works wonderful. Zero issues. Now I just need to build, test, and install a better, higher, antenna. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 20:48 -0500, Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) wrote: > On 11/02/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: > > All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check again? Yes > > I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm looking to > > get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. Was hoping > > that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone as the Pi > > seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb if needed. > > > > Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb > > type node?If so, what are they? > > > > <-- Hi Alan; Best candidate (IMO) is a HP Thin Client - something like > the HP T5710; you can pick them up off eBay for as little as $25US (you > have to look out for them!) - then there is a mod' to remove the memory > module and install a 4GB micro-drive. You can install ACID right off an > external (USB) CD. > > The HP will run chan_simpleusb just fine. > > Low cost / works great / low power (runs off 12V / 13.8VDC @ ~ 650mA). > > Cheers! > > Ramesh. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From keith at goobie.org Wed Feb 13 03:14:20 2013 From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:14:20 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Iaxrpt and ESAT virus scanner Message-ID: <4CB4322F-D1C9-4C34-A467-EC233872D31E@goobie.org> I downloaded iaxrpt from the main site and I made it available through our web site at ve3lsr.ca Sent from my iPhone From keith at goobie.org Wed Feb 13 03:21:01 2013 From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:21:01 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Iaxrpt & ESAT virus scanner Message-ID: <8312F763-9FF8-4196-99A8-5EC1D7939336@goobie.org> I downloaded iaxrpt from the main site and I made it available through our web site at ve3lsr.ca A user with ESAT 32 virus scanner tool is reporting that it shows a virus. He thinks it may be s false positive. Has anyone in the group had this reported. Thanks in advance. Keith. VA3YC Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yokshs at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 05:29:54 2013 From: yokshs at gmail.com (K&R Yoksh) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:29:54 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Automatically remove RADIO_RELAX Message-ID: <01B2896874A5486D8DB857C90A10FE7E@main2> If anyone is interested, I've added a line to the "upgrade.sh" file, to automatically remove the RADIO_RELAX parameter when upgrading your Asterisk to the latest SVN release. My system experiences quite a bit of DTMF false decodes with the RADIO_RELAX parameter in place, and it's easy to forget that step when recompiling. wget http://www.qsl.net/k0kn/upgrade.sh 73 Kyle Yoksh K0KN Olathe, KS From ke2n at cs.com Wed Feb 13 13:02:53 2013 From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:02:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Timeout Issue In-Reply-To: <511AD641.9090505@yellowthunder.org> References: <511AD641.9090505@yellowthunder.org> Message-ID: <8CFD801914E92A0-E14-E34F@webmail-d097.sysops.aol.com> I think there might be a default TOT in there somwhere if you just comment our the value of the time. What you want to do is temporarily disable the function of the TOT see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/166 you will note that one of the control states shown in that example includes the magic word "totdis" that's the one you want. GL Ken -----Original Message----- From: Steve Schulze To: app_rpt-users Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 12:54 am Subject: [App_rpt-users] Timeout Issue Hello all. I'm currently having a problem with time-out on 27727. We are playing ARRL Audio News from the AllStarBox and about 3-1/2 to 4 inutes into it I get a 27727 time out. I have the node setup as duplex=0 and linktolink=yes and have the otime=180000 commented out (for no tot). I have tried to play this file from the box and also from my other node 7616 and I have the same result. 27727 times out but 27616 keeps laying over the air (on it's own box and own repeater) Watching the Asterisk CLI, I actually see the system time out. I see it peak 2 7 7 2 7 RPT/TIMEOUT then HANGUP. But I don't hear the timeout ver the air because the system has already unkeyed. I have verified that the PTT has stopped when this occurs and it's not he timers on the SCOM 7330 causing it. Am I missing some other timer in one of the other conf files? Also, the time-out varies. Not exactly the same time, each time. But onsistently 3-1/2 to 4 minutes. hanks in advance! -- mateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO dministrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ dministrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 reasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html _______________________________________________ pp_rpt-users mailing list pp_rpt-users at ohnosec.org ttp://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This makes one nice package!!! Neal Garbenis Jr. NG8Y On Feb 13, 2013, at 8:56 AM, "torben at klimt-online.com" wrote: > Hi all, > ist it necessary to buy the lox board for the beagle board xM or can i still use my URI instead of it ? > Are there any other low power boards possible ( i know Raspberry Pi is no option ;-) > > Greeetings from Germany Torben DH6MBT > > > Torben Klimt > Eicherstrasse 58 > 85123 Karlskron-Grillheim > Telefon: 08453-34 45 040 > Mobil: 0151-178 74499 > torben at klimt-online.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kt9ac at ameritech.net Wed Feb 13 15:19:07 2013 From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:19:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node In-Reply-To: <1360715926.2164.149.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <1360768747.13720.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Myself and another ham just picked up two of the 5710 thin clients for less than $50 each shipped. So what is the recommended way to build a node - ACID with a larger drive or Limey with existing hardware inside (512M ram/ 512M flash)? I like simple_usb because using a repeater or S-COM interface all you need is audio and logic signals. I would like a few GPIO outputs for external control purposes, too. What is the K0KN PLRI interface? Does that take advantage of the parallel port or something? Thanks,Tony --- On Tue, 2/12/13, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: From: Benjamin L. Naber Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node To: "Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)" Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 6:38 PM You may be able to get away with not buying a micro-drive which will fail sooner than later. Use Limey Linux. I have a Neoware which was bought out by HP. Neoware and HP thin clients have VIA chipsets in there, ie microprocessor, ethernet controller, audio, and Super i/o which controls your serial, parallel ports among other things. I used the K0KN PLRI interface that I was able to build from parts in my junk box. After a little solder smoke filled the air, made a few adjustments, the URI was working for the TX. I use the inexpensive StarTech USB sound FOB for TX/RX audio, and have the settings set to DSP to detech RX audio and CTCSS tone. After it was setup with a service monitor, it works wonderful. Zero issues. Now I just need to build, test, and install a better, higher, antenna. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 20:48 -0500, Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) wrote: > On 11/02/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: > > All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check again? Yes > > I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already).? I'm looking to > > get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node.? Was hoping > > that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone as the Pi > > seems to no be up for the task.? I could live with simpleusb if needed. > > > > Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb > > type node?If so, what are they? > > > > <-- Hi Alan;? Best candidate (IMO) is a HP Thin Client - something like > the HP T5710; you can pick them up off eBay for as little as $25US (you > have to look out for them!) - then there is a mod' to remove the memory > module and install a 4GB micro-drive.? You can install ACID right off an > external (USB) CD. > > The HP will run chan_simpleusb just fine. > > Low cost / works great / low power (runs off 12V / 13.8VDC @ ~ 650mA). > > Cheers! > > Ramesh. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Wed Feb 13 16:03:14 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:03:14 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] thanks Message-ID: <511BB942.3060500@bdboyle.com> Thanks for the work! That got rid of a lot of false DTMF detection on my systems....and I guess, forced me to update to the current distro at the same time (something I've been meaning to do, but just haven't found or had the time to do since I've started a new job...the run time on the system, according to allmon was over 3K hours...) BB > From: "K&R Yoksh" > Date: February 13, 2013, 0:29:54 EST > To: "app_rpt" > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Automatically remove RADIO_RELAX > > If anyone is interested, I've added a line to the "upgrade.sh" file, to automatically remove the RADIO_RELAX parameter when upgrading your Asterisk to the latest SVN release. > > My system experiences quite a bit of DTMF false decodes with the RADIO_RELAX parameter in place, and it's easy to forget that step when recompiling. > > wget http://www.qsl.net/k0kn/upgrade.sh > > 73 > > Kyle Yoksh > K0KN > Olathe, KS -- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me. Sent from my MacBook Pro. From Ramesh at va3uv.com Wed Feb 13 17:20:31 2013 From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:20:31 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node In-Reply-To: <1360768747.13720.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360768747.13720.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511BCB5F.80208@va3uv.com> On 13/02/2013 10:19 AM, Tony KT9AC wrote: > Myself and another ham just picked up two of the 5710 thin clients for > less than $50 each shipped. So what is the recommended way to build a > node - ACID with a larger drive or Limey with existing hardware inside > (512M ram/ 512M flash)? > <-- I have had several folks contact me about the HP Thin Clients..... so I will post the mod info here on the group. I initially started with this mod' for my FREE STAR* systems (had to get that in there Jim!): http://gnbi.com/T5710/ As you can see, we replace the on-board memory module with a 4GB microdrive. I have also built several HP's for Allstar use and even had one running Asterisk as my home PBX for a while. For my FREE STAR* application, I disable logging as much as I can - here is my FREE STAR* status page - and the reason I show it here is that it displays the uptime stats at the bottom of the dashboard (this is running on a HP T5710 of course): http://va3pmo-dstar.homelinux.net:5088/ Some folks have suggested using a SSD drive, etc., in lieu of the microdrive and yes, with the appropriate adapter, that can be done - but you will then need to bring out the cabling outside of the HP and mount the drive outside, etc.. Lots of possibilities! Now, a little while ago, I helped a fellow setup a HP Thin Client - he was fortunate that his on-board memory was a 4GB module! - in that case, there is no need to modify it at all. I have been installing right off the ACID CD using an external USB > ATA adapter with a CD drive attached to it. I have never used Limey - but, from previous discussion, I recall that Limey is suited to a select few motherboards. The HP's come in several models, I have always tried to buy the 1.2GHz derivative. I have also successfully used the 800MHz model for my FREE STAR* application. For Allstar, I stick with the 1.2GHz model - although, I am sure that the 800MHz model will work just as well. chan_simpleusb works fine with the HP's - making it an ideal solution for a simplex node or repeater site with an existing controller. Oh - one other thing - replace the BIOS back-up battery when you get them; I also set them to 'boot upon power' - especially for remote installations. A couple of people also asked me off-list about the USB fobs, so a quick mention.... I have had tremendous success with the StarTech fobs from TigerDirect: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4104870&CatId=4261 I have modified about 20 of these! - I can provide a schematic on request.... I dubbed the finish product the "UVRI" ;o). I bring out both audio channels, making it versatile for a repeater application allowing for the PL tone to be injected into the modulator rather than mixed with the microphone audio. That's all I have time for right now! Cheers, Ramesh. > I like simple_usb because using a repeater or S-COM interface all you > need is audio and logic signals. I would like a few GPIO outputs for > external control purposes, too. > > What is the K0KN PLRI interface? Does that take advantage of the > parallel port or something? > > Thanks, > Tony > > --- On *Tue, 2/12/13, Benjamin L. Naber //* wrote: > > > From: Benjamin L. Naber > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node > To: "Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)" > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 6:38 PM > > You may be able to get away with not buying a micro-drive which will > fail sooner than later. > > Use Limey Linux. I have a Neoware which was bought out by HP. Neoware > and HP thin clients have VIA chipsets in there, ie microprocessor, > ethernet controller, audio, and Super i/o which controls your serial, > parallel ports among other things. > > I used the K0KN PLRI interface that I was able to build from parts in my > junk box. After a little solder smoke filled the air, made a few > adjustments, the URI was working for the TX. I use the inexpensive > StarTech USB sound FOB for TX/RX audio, and have the settings set to DSP > to detech RX audio and CTCSS tone. After it was setup with a service > monitor, it works wonderful. Zero issues. > > Now I just need to build, test, and install a better, higher, antenna. > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > Allstar node 28569 > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 20:48 -0500, Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) wrote: > > On 11/02/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: > > > All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check > again? Yes > > > I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm > looking to > > > get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. > Was hoping > > > that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone > as the Pi > > > seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb if > needed. > > > > > > Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional > simpleusb > > > type node?If so, what are they? > > > > > > > <-- Hi Alan; Best candidate (IMO) is a HP Thin Client - > something like > > the HP T5710; you can pick them up off eBay for as little as > $25US (you > > have to look out for them!) - then there is a mod' to remove the > memory > > module and install a 4GB micro-drive. You can install ACID right > off an > > external (USB) CD. > > > > The HP will run chan_simpleusb just fine. > > > > Low cost / works great / low power (runs off 12V / 13.8VDC @ ~ > 650mA). > > > > Cheers! > > > > Ramesh. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From edgecomberts at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 20:02:24 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:02:24 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node In-Reply-To: <511BCB5F.80208@va3uv.com> References: <1360768747.13720.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <511BCB5F.80208@va3uv.com> Message-ID: Ramesh, Thank you - this'll prove to be invaluable information as I convert a HP T5630w thin client into use as an PMR connected PABX. I was wondering if you could comment on their average operational power draw - the official specs say 50Watts/ 4.16Amps, but a number of people have said in practice they can be run from a 1.5Amp supply. Power draw is of utmost importance to me - but having the ruddy thing work too, is important...! I do have a 23Amp Manson power supply, so I have no issues with actual power in the home environment, but out on deployment, I'll be limited to increments of 20Ahr LiFePO4 batteries. Or my 50Ahr deep cycle SLAs... true monsters... Once again, thanks for the information Ramesh - it now gives me confidence to convert these clients to other uses. Shane. On 14/02/2013 4:29 AM, "Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)" wrote: > On 13/02/2013 10:19 AM, Tony KT9AC wrote: > >> Myself and another ham just picked up two of the 5710 thin clients for >> less than $50 each shipped. So what is the recommended way to build a >> node - ACID with a larger drive or Limey with existing hardware inside >> (512M ram/ 512M flash)? >> >> > <-- I have had several folks contact me about the HP Thin Clients..... so > I will post the mod info here on the group. > > I initially started with this mod' for my FREE STAR* systems (had to get > that in there Jim!): > > http://gnbi.com/T5710/ > > As you can see, we replace the on-board memory module with a 4GB > microdrive. I have also built several HP's for Allstar use and even had > one running Asterisk as my home PBX for a while. > > For my FREE STAR* application, I disable logging as much as I can - here > is my FREE STAR* status page - and the reason I show it here is that it > displays the uptime stats at the bottom of the dashboard (this is running > on a HP T5710 of course): > > http://va3pmo-dstar.homelinux.**net:5088/ > > > Some folks have suggested using a SSD drive, etc., in lieu of the > microdrive and yes, with the appropriate adapter, that can be done - but > you will then need to bring out the cabling outside of the HP and mount the > drive outside, etc.. > > Lots of possibilities! > > Now, a little while ago, I helped a fellow setup a HP Thin Client - he was > fortunate that his on-board memory was a 4GB module! - in that case, there > is no need to modify it at all. > > I have been installing right off the ACID CD using an external USB > ATA > adapter with a CD drive attached to it. I have never used Limey - but, > from previous discussion, I recall that Limey is suited to a select few > motherboards. > > > The HP's come in several models, I have always tried to buy the 1.2GHz > derivative. I have also successfully used the 800MHz model for my FREE > STAR* application. For Allstar, I stick with the 1.2GHz model - although, > I am sure that the 800MHz model will work just as well. > > chan_simpleusb works fine with the HP's - making it an ideal solution for > a simplex node or repeater site with an existing controller. > > Oh - one other thing - replace the BIOS back-up battery when you get them; > I also set them to 'boot upon power' - especially for remote installations. > > A couple of people also asked me off-list about the USB fobs, so a quick > mention.... > > > I have had tremendous success with the StarTech fobs from TigerDirect: > > http://www.tigerdirect.ca/**applications/SearchTools/item-** > details.asp?EdpNo=4104870&**CatId=4261 > > > I have modified about 20 of these! - I can provide a schematic on > request.... I dubbed the finish product the "UVRI" ;o). I bring out both > audio channels, making it versatile for a repeater application allowing for > the PL tone to be injected into the modulator rather than mixed with the > microphone audio. > > > That's all I have time for right now! > > Cheers, > > Ramesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like simple_usb because using a repeater or S-COM interface all you >> need is audio and logic signals. I would like a few GPIO outputs for >> external control purposes, too. >> >> What is the K0KN PLRI interface? Does that take advantage of the >> parallel port or something? >> >> Thanks, >> Tony >> >> --- On *Tue, 2/12/13, Benjamin L. Naber //* wrote: >> >> >> From: Benjamin L. Naber >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node >> To: "Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)" >> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 6:38 PM >> >> You may be able to get away with not buying a micro-drive which will >> fail sooner than later. >> >> Use Limey Linux. I have a Neoware which was bought out by HP. Neoware >> and HP thin clients have VIA chipsets in there, ie microprocessor, >> ethernet controller, audio, and Super i/o which controls your serial, >> parallel ports among other things. >> >> I used the K0KN PLRI interface that I was able to build from parts in >> my >> junk box. After a little solder smoke filled the air, made a few >> adjustments, the URI was working for the TX. I use the inexpensive >> StarTech USB sound FOB for TX/RX audio, and have the settings set to >> DSP >> to detech RX audio and CTCSS tone. After it was setup with a service >> monitor, it works wonderful. Zero issues. >> >> Now I just need to build, test, and install a better, higher, antenna. >> >> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ >> Allstar node 28569 >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 20:48 -0500, Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) wrote: >> > On 11/02/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: >> > > All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check >> again? Yes >> > > I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm >> looking to >> > > get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. >> Was hoping >> > > that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone >> as the Pi >> > > seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb if >> needed. >> > > >> > > Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional >> simpleusb >> > > type node?If so, what are they? >> > > >> > >> > <-- Hi Alan; Best candidate (IMO) is a HP Thin Client - >> something like >> > the HP T5710; you can pick them up off eBay for as little as >> $25US (you >> > have to look out for them!) - then there is a mod' to remove the >> memory >> > module and install a 4GB micro-drive. You can install ACID right >> off an >> > external (USB) CD. >> > >> > The HP will run chan_simpleusb just fine. >> > >> > Low cost / works great / low power (runs off 12V / 13.8VDC @ ~ >> 650mA). >> > >> > Cheers! >> > >> > Ramesh. >> > >> > ______________________________**_________________ >> > App_rpt-users mailing list >> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > ohnosec.org > >> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/**mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> > >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/**mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> > ______________________________**_________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/**mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Ramesh at va3uv.com Wed Feb 13 20:13:11 2013 From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:13:11 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node In-Reply-To: References: <1360768747.13720.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <511BCB5F.80208@va3uv.com> Message-ID: <511BF3D7.9070903@va3uv.com> On 13/02/2013 3:02 PM, Shane Morris wrote: > Ramesh, > > Thank you - this'll prove to be invaluable information as I convert a HP > T5630w thin client into use as an PMR connected PABX. I was wondering if > you could comment on their average operational power draw - the official > specs say 50Watts/ 4.16Amps, but a number of people have said in > practice they can be run from a 1.5Amp supply. > <-- Yeh, I don't know why HP spec' these to require a 3 or 4A supply. I power mine directly off the station power supply (~ 13.8VDC) - measured quiescent current was ~ 650mA (it's been a while, so don't hold me to that folks!). IIRC, max current was around 950mA or so. I generally fuse mine with a 1.5A fuse. One thing that I forgot to mention in my previous note - I did try one of these in a full-duplex bench-test / using chan-usbradio (i.e., using DSP) - don't go there! - the HP does not have the "sllab" for a full-duplex setup. The other caveat is that I have only ever run one node with chan_simpleusb. One other tid-bit.... one of my FREE STAR* guys in the UK, told me that he was able to take a Wyse terminal and convert that in the same fashion as described for the HP. The last time I checked my local off-lease equipment supplier, they had a truck load of Wyse terminals for $10 a piece! Amateur Radio .... roll your sleeves up and enjoy! Cheers, R. From dshaw at ke6upi.com Wed Feb 13 20:16:41 2013 From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:16:41 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] thanks In-Reply-To: <511BB942.3060500@bdboyle.com> References: <511BB942.3060500@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: Hello Kyle, I like your update script. Had thought about adding a backup line to your script? cd /etc/ zip -r asterisk.zip asterisk David On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > Thanks for the work! That got rid of a lot of false DTMF detection on my > systems....and I guess, forced me to update to the current distro at the > same time (something I've been meaning to do, but just haven't found or had > the time to do since I've started a new job...the run time on the system, > according to allmon was over 3K hours...) > > BB > > > > From: "K&R Yoksh" > > Date: February 13, 2013, 0:29:54 EST > > To: "app_rpt" > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Automatically remove RADIO_RELAX > > > > If anyone is interested, I've added a line to the "upgrade.sh" file, to > automatically remove the RADIO_RELAX parameter when upgrading your Asterisk > to the latest SVN release. > > > > My system experiences quite a bit of DTMF false decodes with the > RADIO_RELAX parameter in place, and it's easy to forget that step when > recompiling. > > > > wget http://www.qsl.net/k0kn/**upgrade.sh > > > > 73 > > > > Kyle Yoksh > > K0KN > > Olathe, KS > > -- > Bryan > In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. > Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. > You may quote me. > > Sent from my MacBook Pro. > ______________________________**_________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/**mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Wed Feb 13 20:32:18 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:32:18 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] thanks In-Reply-To: References: <511BB942.3060500@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: <511BF852.9000601@bdboyle.com> On 2/13/13 3:16 PM, David KE6UPI wrote: > Hello Kyle, I like your update script. Had thought about adding a backup > line to your script? > > cd /etc/ > zip -r asterisk.zip asterisk > I have a samba drive (no sniggers....) mounted that I copy the directory (/mount/some.server/backups/asterisk.(date).backup) to...(it's a TB drive, so, not too worried about the space right now...), and the house LAN the systems are on is a 10gb net...though, I realize that not every setup, especially those in more remote locations, would be as equipped). Lots of options, yours is a good one, too. -- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me. Sent from my MacBook Pro. From yokshs at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 03:19:06 2013 From: yokshs at gmail.com (K&R Yoksh) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:19:06 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hunt group? Message-ID: <1839F0D3E5DC475189AFABDB2EA63B6B@main2> Hi, I've got a question for the dialplan experts. Is it possible to create a "hunt group" of sorts? In other words, I'd like to know if it's possible to edit the dialplan to connect to node #1 if available, or if not, try connecting to node #2, etc. I'd like to use this to allow users to dial the same node number each time, but be connected to one of two hub nodes in the event of ISP problems, etc. Thanks. 73 Kyle K0KN From yokshs at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 04:17:51 2013 From: yokshs at gmail.com (K&R Yoksh) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:17:51 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] thanks Message-ID: Hi David, I hadn't really considered that.. I periodically tar up my /etc/asterisk and a few other directories and back them up.. That way, if my hard drive were to crash, etc, I can easily restore my system after installing ACID. I run the upgrade.sh probably every few months, if I happen to notice there's been an SVN update. Feel free to edit as needed, though (as I did!), I'm not sure who wrote the initial script.. Duuude perhaps? 73, Kyle K0KN --- Original Message --- Hello Kyle, I like your update script. Had thought about adding a backup line to your script?cd /etc/zip -r asterisk.zip asteriskDavid From ki6lnx at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 14:34:19 2013 From: ki6lnx at gmail.com (Orland Lopez) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 06:34:19 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node 2519 Message-ID: Good Day fellas, I am looking to get back into the allstar swing after a few years away from the scene. I hope the node 2519 was grandfathered as I have not used it for a while. I just bought a URI and will try to my Handy Dandy HP T5720 Thinclient up and running. Limey linux should be no issues. I logged into the allstarlink site and noticed a lot good changes. Question is, if node 2519 can be used will I be able to use this node in the limeylinux, I ask because back then when I got the node number Limey was non existant. 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Used gparted to remove all partition from the flash drive. Untar, then su, then dd... As explained on the limey web page. Booted, it started loading but failed on somthing about ext2fs. It woud have been so fun to ave it run on the original flash drive.... From: petem001 at hotmail.com To: kt9ac at ameritech.net Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:32:00 -0500 I have a few 5710 at home, will try to run Limey on those, they are 1 gb ram / 1 gb flash drive.. I will have to run a live cd out of an external dvd drive to work the image on the flash drive as they are IDE 44 pin device.. If they work I will be an happy camper!! From: Tony KT9AC Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:19 AM To: Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) ; Benjamin L. Naber Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node Myself and another ham just picked up two of the 5710 thin clients for less than $50 each shipped. So what is the recommended way to build a node - ACID with a larger drive or Limey with existing hardware inside (512M ram/ 512M flash)? I like simple_usb because using a repeater or S-COM interface all you need is audio and logic signals. I would like a few GPIO outputs for external control purposes, too. What is the K0KN PLRI interface? Does that take advantage of the parallel port or something? Thanks, Tony --- On Tue, 2/12/13, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: From: Benjamin L. Naber Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node To: "Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)" Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 6:38 PM You may be able to get away with not buying a micro-drive which will fail sooner than later. Use Limey Linux. I have a Neoware which was bought out by HP. Neoware and HP thin clients have VIA chipsets in there, ie microprocessor, ethernet controller, audio, and Super i/o which controls your serial, parallel ports among other things. I used the K0KN PLRI interface that I was able to build from parts in my junk box. After a little solder smoke filled the air, made a few adjustments, the URI was working for the TX. I use the inexpensive StarTech USB sound FOB for TX/RX audio, and have the settings set to DSP to detech RX audio and CTCSS tone. After it was setup with a service monitor, it works wonderful. Zero issues. Now I just need to build, test, and install a better, higher, antenna. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 20:48 -0500, Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) wrote: > On 11/02/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: > > All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check again? Yes > > I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm looking to > > get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. Was hoping > > that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone as the Pi > > seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb if needed. > > > > Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb > > type node?If so, what are they? > > > > <-- Hi Alan; Best candidate (IMO) is a HP Thin Client - something like > the HP T5710; you can pick them up off eBay for as little as $25US (you > have to look out for them!) - then there is a mod' to remove the memory > module and install a 4GB micro-drive. You can install ACID right off an > external (USB) CD. > > The HP will run chan_simpleusb just fine. > > Low cost / works great / low power (runs off 12V / 13.8VDC @ ~ 650mA). > > Cheers! > > Ramesh. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kt9ac at ameritech.net Fri Feb 15 20:08:44 2013 From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:08:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node In-Reply-To: <1360715926.2164.149.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <1360958924.4033.YahooMailClassic@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Once Limey is up and running on these Thin Clients, is it possible to then add and recompile Asterisk (configure, make, make install) right on the HP? I need to add in the MDC1200 functionality from the extras directory. I take it you would just SSH in like any other normal node, right? Thanks,Tony --- On Tue, 2/12/13, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: From: Benjamin L. Naber Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node To: "Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)" Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 6:38 PM You may be able to get away with not buying a micro-drive which will fail sooner than later. Use Limey Linux. I have a Neoware which was bought out by HP. Neoware and HP thin clients have VIA chipsets in there, ie microprocessor, ethernet controller, audio, and Super i/o which controls your serial, parallel ports among other things. I used the K0KN PLRI interface that I was able to build from parts in my junk box. After a little solder smoke filled the air, made a few adjustments, the URI was working for the TX. I use the inexpensive StarTech USB sound FOB for TX/RX audio, and have the settings set to DSP to detech RX audio and CTCSS tone. After it was setup with a service monitor, it works wonderful. Zero issues. Now I just need to build, test, and install a better, higher, antenna. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 20:48 -0500, Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) wrote: > On 11/02/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: > > All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check again? Yes > > I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already).? I'm looking to > > get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node.? Was hoping > > that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone as the Pi > > seems to no be up for the task.? I could live with simpleusb if needed. > > > > Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb > > type node?If so, what are they? > > > > <-- Hi Alan;? Best candidate (IMO) is a HP Thin Client - something like > the HP T5710; you can pick them up off eBay for as little as $25US (you > have to look out for them!) - then there is a mod' to remove the memory > module and install a 4GB micro-drive.? You can install ACID right off an > external (USB) CD. > > The HP will run chan_simpleusb just fine. > > Low cost / works great / low power (runs off 12V / 13.8VDC @ ~ 650mA). > > Cheers! > > Ramesh. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 15 22:26:50 2013 From: n6gkj.cm98 at yahoo.com (Ron Simpson) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:26:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] HP T5745 Thin Client Message-ID: <1360967210.91848.androidMobile@web140603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Anyone have a start to finish ACID install documented on this unit? Any help would be appreciated! Tnx Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Sat Feb 16 00:56:09 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:56:09 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node In-Reply-To: <1360958924.4033.YahooMailClassic@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360958924.4033.YahooMailClassic@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1360976169.1796.13.camel@benjamin-hp> you can if you have the RAM and FLASH space in order to do it. it may take a good deal of time because the FSB doesn't run nearly as fast as regular mother board. Some of the newer thin clients may have faster FSBs, but the older ones like HP T5720 are a number of years old and their primary function in life is for appliance users. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 12:08 -0800, Tony KT9AC wrote: > Once Limey is up and running on these Thin Clients, is it possible to > then add and recompile Asterisk (configure, make, make install) right > on the HP? I need to add in the MDC1200 functionality from the extras > directory. I take it you would just SSH in like any other normal node, > right? > > > Thanks, > Tony > > --- On Tue, 2/12/13, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: > > From: Benjamin L. Naber > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Simple node > To: "Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV)" > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 6:38 PM > > You may be able to get away with not buying a micro-drive > which will > fail sooner than later. > > Use Limey Linux. I have a Neoware which was bought out by HP. > Neoware > and HP thin clients have VIA chipsets in there, ie > microprocessor, > ethernet controller, audio, and Super i/o which controls your > serial, > parallel ports among other things. > > I used the K0KN PLRI interface that I was able to build from > parts in my > junk box. After a little solder smoke filled the air, made a > few > adjustments, the URI was working for the TX. I use the > inexpensive > StarTech USB sound FOB for TX/RX audio, and have the settings > set to DSP > to detech RX audio and CTCSS tone. After it was setup with a > service > monitor, it works wonderful. Zero issues. > > Now I just need to build, test, and install a better, higher, > antenna. > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > Allstar node 28569 > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 20:48 -0500, Ramesh Dhami (VA3UV) wrote: > > On 11/02/2013 8:04 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: > > > All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd > check again? Yes > > > I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm > looking to > > > get another family member (new ham) up with a personal > node. Was hoping > > > that someone might have done something around the Beagle > Bone as the Pi > > > seems to no be up for the task. I could live with > simpleusb if needed. > > > > > > Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional > simpleusb > > > type node?If so, what are they? > > > > > > > <-- Hi Alan; Best candidate (IMO) is a HP Thin Client - > something like > > the HP T5710; you can pick them up off eBay for as little as > $25US (you > > have to look out for them!) - then there is a mod' to remove > the memory > > module and install a 4GB micro-drive. You can install ACID > right off an > > external (USB) CD. > > > > The HP will run chan_simpleusb just fine. > > > > Low cost / works great / low power (runs off 12V / 13.8VDC @ > ~ 650mA). > > > > Cheers! > > > > Ramesh. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From iw3amq at dnet.it Sun Feb 17 16:52:53 2013 From: iw3amq at dnet.it (Thomas Delmonego) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:52:53 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] =?windows-1256?q?Avoid_squelch_noise_after_receiv?= =?windows-1256?q?ing_a_signal=FE?= Message-ID: Hi, it's possible to avoid the typical squelch noise after the reception of a valid signal from a repeater RX? Is there a specific setting, if yes in what file? Many thanks for help! 73! Thomas, IW3AMQ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edgecomberts at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 17:17:39 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 04:17:39 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re: Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Shane Morris" Date: 18/02/2013 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal To: "Thomas Delmonego" Do you mean the tone or the "tail"? The tone is a function of the software, although I am not versed enough to tell you how to control that. If you mean the tail (the carrier that clicks back after an "over") then thats actually a part of your repeater, and not set in the app_rpt software, as far as I'm aware, as most repeaters I've used, connected to the internet or not, have had a tail of varying degrees (imagine a three minute tail - ikes!). Its probably the best idea if you don't want any tail - which I'm not even sure if you could properly implement - that you use a tone to acknowledge the repeater has heard you. Otherwise, you'll never know if you're getting through. Of course, we use a short tone and tail to tell us we got in, and we can talk through our tail on the LOX board and Simoco repeater, however, another system I used, I wasn't able to talk through the (thankfully short) tail. Hope this helps! On 18/02/2013 3:53 AM, "Thomas Delmonego" wrote: > > Hi, > it's possible to avoid the typical squelch noise after the reception of a > valid signal from a repeater RX? Is there a specific setting, if yes in > what file? > Many thanks for help! > 73! Thomas, IW3AMQ > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ke2n at cs.com Sun Feb 17 17:25:57 2013 From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:25:57 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] =?windows-1255?q?Avoid_squelch_noise_after_receiv?= =?windows-1255?q?ing_a_signal=FE?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01ce0d33$d96bb1d0$8c431570$@cs.com> Ciao Thomas The squelch ?tail? is usually eliminated by using CTCSS (so called PL) on the transmitted signal and corresponding PL detection on receive. I am not sure how common that is in EU though ? On the repeater you need (usbradio.conf) txtoctype=notone With this, Asterisk stops transmitting the CTCSS tone about 600 milliseconds before dropping the carrier ? radios that are using tone squelch will not hear any noise at all when the other station stops transmitting. Some receivers need > 600 milliseconds for the tone squelch action. It is possible to make this time delay longer, if needed. 73 Ken From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Delmonego Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:53 AM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal? Hi, it's possible to avoid the typical squelch noise after the reception of a valid signal from a repeater RX? Is there a specific setting, if yes in what file? Many thanks for help! 73! Thomas, IW3AMQ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edgecomberts at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 17:29:21 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 04:29:21 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal In-Reply-To: <000c01ce0d33$d96bb1d0$8c431570$@cs.com> References: <000c01ce0d33$d96bb1d0$8c431570$@cs.com> Message-ID: So, you're saying the tail is still there, but you don't hear it because Asterisk stops transmitting the CTCSS tone just before the tail starts, meaning the receiving radios actually "don't" hear it? Interesting way of looking at the issue, thats for sure...! On 18/02/2013 4:26 AM, "Ken" wrote: > Ciao Thomas**** > > ** ** > > The squelch ?tail? is usually eliminated by using CTCSS (so called PL) on > the transmitted signal and corresponding PL detection on receive. I am not > sure how common that is in EU though ?**** > > ** ** > > On the repeater you need (usbradio.conf)**** > > ** ** > > txtoctype=notone**** > > ** ** > > With this, Asterisk stops transmitting the CTCSS tone about 600 > milliseconds before dropping the carrier ? radios that are using tone > squelch will not hear any noise at all when the other station stops > transmitting. **** > > ** ** > > Some receivers need > 600 milliseconds for the tone squelch action. It is > possible to make this time delay longer, if needed.**** > > ** ** > > 73**** > > ** ** > > Ken**** > > ** ** > > *From:* app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto: > app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Delmonego > *Sent:* Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:53 AM > *To:* app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal** > ** > > ** ** > > > Hi, > it's possible to avoid the typical squelch noise after the reception of a > valid signal from a repeater RX? Is there a specific setting, if yes in > what file? > Many thanks for help! > 73! Thomas, IW3AMQ**** > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 2/13/2013 07:02, Ken wrote: > I think there might be a default TOT in there somwhere if you just > comment our the value of the time. > What you want to do is temporarily disable the function of the TOT > see > http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/166 > > you will note that one of the control states shown in that example > includes the magic word "totdis" > that's the one you want. > GL > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Schulze > To: app_rpt-users > Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 12:54 am > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Timeout Issue > > Hello all. > > I'm currently having a problem with time-out on 27727. > > We are playing ARRL Audio News from the AllStarBox and about 3-1/2 to 4 > minutes into it I get a 27727 time out. > > I have the node setup as duplex=0 and linktolink=yes and have the > totime=180000 commented out (for no tot). > > I have tried to play this file from the box and also from my other node > 27616 and I have the same result. 27727 times out but 27616 keeps > playing over the air (on it's own box and own repeater) > > Watching the Asterisk CLI, I actually see the system time out. I see it > speak 2 7 7 2 7 RPT/TIMEOUT then HANGUP. But I don't hear the timeout > over the air because the system has already unkeyed. > > I have verified that the PTT has stopped when this occurs and it's not > the timers on the SCOM 7330 causing it. > > Am I missing some other timer in one of the other conf files? > > Also, the time-out varies. Not exactly the same time, each time. But > consistently 3-1/2 to 4 minutes. > > > Thanks in advance! > > -- > Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media > > Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ > Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 > Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS > > http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iw3amq at dnet.it Sun Feb 17 17:46:44 2013 From: iw3amq at dnet.it (Thomas Delmonego) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:46:44 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] =?windows-1256?q?Avoid_squelch_noise_after_receiv?= =?windows-1256?q?ing_a_signal=FE?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Now i've find in the web the right order for the "usbradio.conf" file: [usb] ... rxsquelchdelay=150 ;delaytime in ms carrier squelch tail eliminator And i must set also this parameter: rxondelay=4 ;avoid squelch tail or disable RX audio in the beginning of an RX signal It's a pity, that's no complete handbook can find ... 73! Thomas, IW3AMQ From: iw3amq at dnet.it To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:52:53 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal? Hi, it's possible to avoid the typical squelch noise after the reception of a valid signal from a repeater RX? Is there a specific setting, if yes in what file? Many thanks for help! 73! 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Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:25:57 -0500 Ciao Thomas The squelch ?tail? is usually eliminated by using CTCSS (so called PL) on the transmitted signal and corresponding PL detection on receive. I am not sure how common that is in EU though ? On the repeater you need (usbradio.conf) txtoctype=notone With this, Asterisk stops transmitting the CTCSS tone about 600 milliseconds before dropping the carrier ? radios that are using tone squelch will not hear any noise at all when the other station stops transmitting. Some receivers need > 600 milliseconds for the tone squelch action. It is possible to make this time delay longer, if needed. 73 Ken From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Delmonego Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:53 AM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal? 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URL: From ke2n at cs.com Sun Feb 17 20:31:07 2013 From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:31:07 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal In-Reply-To: References: <000c01ce0d33$d96bb1d0$8c431570$@cs.com> Message-ID: <001c01ce0d4d$b74e06b0$25ea1410$@cs.com> It can be made to cover up any tail that the repeater is repeating, but the real reason for it is to help you eliminate the tail that your *own* radio is generating when the repeater carrier drops. 73 Ken From: Shane Morris [mailto:edgecomberts at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:29 PM To: Ken Cc: Thomas Delmonego; app_rpt mailing list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal So, you're saying the tail is still there, but you don't hear it because Asterisk stops transmitting the CTCSS tone just before the tail starts, meaning the receiving radios actually "don't" hear it? Interesting way of looking at the issue, thats for sure...! On 18/02/2013 4:26 AM, "Ken" wrote: Ciao Thomas The squelch "tail" is usually eliminated by using CTCSS (so called PL) on the transmitted signal and corresponding PL detection on receive. I am not sure how common that is in EU though . On the repeater you need (usbradio.conf) txtoctype=notone With this, Asterisk stops transmitting the CTCSS tone about 600 milliseconds before dropping the carrier - radios that are using tone squelch will not hear any noise at all when the other station stops transmitting. Some receivers need > 600 milliseconds for the tone squelch action. It is possible to make this time delay longer, if needed. 73 Ken From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Delmonego Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:53 AM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal Hi, it's possible to avoid the typical squelch noise after the reception of a valid signal from a repeater RX? Is there a specific setting, if yes in what file? Many thanks for help! 73! Thomas, IW3AMQ _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edgecomberts at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 21:05:20 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:05:20 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media Message-ID: Hi all, I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by one of the members of the list. First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. Thanks in advance for all your help! Shane. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:10 AM, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: > Is it possible to install ACID ISO onto an micro SD card and install ACID > from the SD? > > Thanks, > > Jon VA3RQ > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From donh at sigma.net Sun Feb 17 22:45:18 2013 From: donh at sigma.net (Don Hackler) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:45:18 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media References: <313444C6-97B3-41E6-B3EF-84E2FBE1FAAD@sigma.net> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > From: Don Hackler > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media > Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST > To: Shane Morris > > You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. > Use IAX to connect the two. > > If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. > > Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) > > For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Your the PAIF box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >> >> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >> >> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by one of the members of the list. >>> >>> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >>> >>> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). >>> >>> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From edgecomberts at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 23:34:54 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:34:54 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: <313444C6-97B3-41E6-B3EF-84E2FBE1FAAD@sigma.net> Message-ID: Apart from security, more power usage, and a headache, not actually sure. And no, I'm not actually being sarcastic either. Security is my primary motivation here. If I could get around the redundancy of systems, it would be great. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM, pete M wrote: > What would this kind of setup give aside more security? > > Envoy? de mon iPad > > Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Don Hackler > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media > Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST > To: Shane Morris > > You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. > Use IAX to connect the two. > > If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a > different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and > then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF > box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. > > Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable > setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) > > For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a > Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, > and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by > one of the members of the list. > > First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave > the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the > cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, > certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of > weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. > > Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can > see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be > suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I > take it from numerous discussions). > > Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there > are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security > issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing > 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you > recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 > "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on > using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the > outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, > indial account(s). > > Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have > to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, > which I imagine would be a simple exercise. > > Thanks in advance for all your help! > > Shane. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From petem001 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 17 23:46:08 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:46:08 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: <313444C6-97B3-41E6-B3EF-84E2FBE1FAAD@sigma.net> Message-ID: more power usage? more option of install voice mail or such stuff? -----Message d'origine----- From: Shane Morris Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:34 PM To: pete M Cc: Don Hackler ; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media Apart from security, more power usage, and a headache, not actually sure. And no, I'm not actually being sarcastic either. Security is my primary motivation here. If I could get around the redundancy of systems, it would be great. On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM, pete M wrote: > What would this kind of setup give aside more security? > > Envoy? de mon iPad > > Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Don Hackler > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media > Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST > To: Shane Morris > > You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. > Use IAX to connect the two. > > If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use > a > different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and > then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the > PAIF > box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. > > Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable > setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) > > For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on > a > Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, > and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended > by > one of the members of the list. > > First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and > leave > the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the > cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, > certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple > of > weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. > > Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I > can > see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would > be > suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I > take it from numerous discussions). > > Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, > there > are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security > issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not > bashing > 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you > recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 > "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on > using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the > outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, > indial account(s). > > Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll > have > to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX > trunk, > which I imagine would be a simple exercise. > > Thanks in advance for all your help! > > Shane. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Mon Feb 18 02:44:26 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:44:26 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1361155466.1740.91.camel@benjamin-hp> You can install Limey Linux on as small as 512MB. On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:05 +1100, Shane Morris wrote: > Hi all, > > I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me > today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was > recommended by one of the members of the list. > > First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and > leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media > under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB > IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait > another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. > > Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that > I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether > it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt > (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). > > Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, > there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably > security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so > I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally > secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on > an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the > world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections > over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs > to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). > > Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, > I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish > the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. > > Thanks in advance for all your help! > > Shane. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From petem001 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 18 03:24:47 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:24:47 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: <1361155466.1740.91.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <1361155466.1740.91.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: Limey did not work on my t5630.. Envoy? de mon iPad Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 21:54, "Benjamin L. Naber" a ?crit : > You can install Limey Linux on as small as 512MB. > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:05 +1100, Shane Morris wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me >> today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was >> recommended by one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and >> leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media >> under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB >> IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait >> another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that >> I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether >> it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt >> (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, >> there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably >> security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so >> I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally >> secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on >> an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the >> world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections >> over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs >> to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, >> I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish >> the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From edgecomberts at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 03:30:54 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:30:54 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re: [Bulk] Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: <1361155466.1740.91.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Shane Morris" Date: 18/02/2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Suitability of boot media To: "pete M" Driver issue? Or just plain not supported? On 18/02/2013 2:26 PM, "pete M" wrote: > Limey did not work on my t5630.. > > Envoy? de mon iPad > > Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 21:54, "Benjamin L. Naber" a ?crit > : > > > You can install Limey Linux on as small as 512MB. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:05 +1100, Shane Morris wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me > >> today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was > >> recommended by one of the members of the list. > >> > >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and > >> leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media > >> under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB > >> IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait > >> another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. > >> > >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that > >> I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether > >> it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt > >> (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). > >> > >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, > >> there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably > >> security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so > >> I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally > >> secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on > >> an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the > >> world? 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URL: From petem001 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 18 04:36:16 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:36:16 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re: [Bulk] Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: <1361155466.1740.91.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: ok here is the output of my T5630 with Limey.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1ugegjyin89eef/2013-02-17%2023.30.11.jpg and dont tell me that was not fast enough ;-) From: Shane Morris Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:30 PM To: app_rpt mailing list Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re: [Bulk] Suitability of boot media ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Shane Morris" Date: 18/02/2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Suitability of boot media To: "pete M" Driver issue? Or just plain not supported? On 18/02/2013 2:26 PM, "pete M" wrote: Limey did not work on my t5630.. Envoy? de mon iPad Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 21:54, "Benjamin L. Naber" a ?crit : > You can install Limey Linux on as small as 512MB. > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:05 +1100, Shane Morris wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me >> today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was >> recommended by one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and >> leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media >> under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB >> IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait >> another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that >> I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether >> it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt >> (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, >> there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably >> security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so >> I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally >> secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on >> an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the >> world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections >> over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs >> to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, >> I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish >> the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donh at sigma.net Mon Feb 18 05:13:45 2013 From: donh at sigma.net (Don Hackler) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:13:45 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: <313444C6-97B3-41E6-B3EF-84E2FBE1FAAD@sigma.net> Message-ID: <967144F3-573E-410A-9762-DAE92B94C707@sigma.net> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate installs is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on Asterisk 1.4 and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the oldest stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much abandoned in place. PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially easier to run for general purpose PBX situations. Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running while the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic command line driven system. If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large network, serving SIP phones at several locations. The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M wrote: > What would this kind of setup give aside more security? > > Envoy? de mon iPad > > Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Don Hackler >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >>> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >>> To: Shane Morris >>> >>> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >>> Use IAX to connect the two. >>> >>> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >>> >>> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >>> >>> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >>> >>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by one of the members of the list. >>>> >>>> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >>>> >>>> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). >>>> >>>> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). >>>> >>>> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for all your help! >>>> >>>> Shane. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edgecomberts at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 05:32:38 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:32:38 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: <967144F3-573E-410A-9762-DAE92B94C707@sigma.net> References: <313444C6-97B3-41E6-B3EF-84E2FBE1FAAD@sigma.net> <967144F3-573E-410A-9762-DAE92B94C707@sigma.net> Message-ID: Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler wrote: > > While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate installs > is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on > Asterisk 1.4 > and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the oldest > stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. > > The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel > framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. > The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much > abandoned in place. > > PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially easier > to run for general purpose PBX situations. > Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running while > the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic command > line > driven system. > > If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe > hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. > It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since > the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. > > I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large > network, serving SIP phones at several locations. > The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my > larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M wrote: > > What would this kind of setup give aside more security? > > Envoy? de mon iPad > > Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Don Hackler > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media > Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST > To: Shane Morris > > You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. > Use IAX to connect the two. > > If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a > different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and > then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF > box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. > > Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable > setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) > > For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a > Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, > and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by > one of the members of the list. > > First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave > the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the > cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, > certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of > weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. > > Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can > see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be > suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I > take it from numerous discussions). > > Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there > are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security > issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing > 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you > recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 > "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on > using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the > outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, > indial account(s). > > Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have > to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, > which I imagine would be a simple exercise. > > Thanks in advance for all your help! > > Shane. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From edgecomberts at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 05:59:17 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:59:17 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Shane Morris Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Re : Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media To: pete M Ok, I'm finding it hard to get my head around this, as I have held both amateur and commercial licences, and indeed used both. As far as I know, legislation in Australia wouldn't allow for me to arbitrarily - even by accident - link an amateur network to a commercial network. I'd lose all my licences, and probably my job. Not a good situation. However, according to Don, it sounds like hes doing precisely what I'm thinking. What he isn't explaining is what ARE the networks. Ok, its a large SIP network with an endpoint that just happens to be a ACiD install. Cool. But what does the ACiD install connect to? Amateur, or PMR? And if its commercial, how does he stop all the nice amateurs playing AllStar, as we do, from connecting to his PMR network, and thus not losing any licences? Look, these might be silly questions - but I'm told its "a radio network." Ok, theres many types of radio networks. I understand you guys mostly play amateur. I want to play commercial. Is that allowed? I mean, realistically, do you have any CBRS or GMRS endpoints on AllStar? If so, how does that work? If not, then its cause of the licences. I'm working under being totally in the dark about the licencing here. Would it help if I just described what I want to do, and someone gives me a "Yes it can be done" or "No you can't do that"? Thanks! On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM, pete M wrote: > If you dont use any linking that is not. On your licence I dont see why it would not be ok. But I am notvthe best to answer that question > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shane Morris > Sent: 18 Feb 2013 05:32:41 GMT > To: Don Hackler > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media > > Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for > commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? > > However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler wrote: >> >> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate installs >> is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on >> Asterisk 1.4 >> and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the oldest >> stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. >> >> The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel >> framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. >> The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much >> abandoned in place. >> >> PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially easier >> to run for general purpose PBX situations. >> Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running while >> the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic command >> line >> driven system. >> >> If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe >> hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. >> It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since >> the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. >> >> I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large >> network, serving SIP phones at several locations. >> The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my >> larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M wrote: >> >> What would this kind of setup give aside more security? >> >> Envoy? de mon iPad >> >> Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Don Hackler >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >> To: Shane Morris >> >> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >> Use IAX to connect the two. >> >> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a >> different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and >> then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF >> box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >> >> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable >> setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >> >> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a >> Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, >> and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by >> one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave >> the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the >> cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, >> certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of >> weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can >> see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be >> suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I >> take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there >> are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security >> issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing >> 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you >> recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 >> "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on >> using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the >> outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, >> indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have >> to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, >> which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From donh at sigma.net Mon Feb 18 06:33:56 2013 From: donh at sigma.net (Don Hackler) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:33:56 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: <313444C6-97B3-41E6-B3EF-84E2FBE1FAAD@sigma.net> <967144F3-573E-410A-9762-DAE92B94C707@sigma.net> Message-ID: <8D65C09B-C97A-47B4-8FFF-BF0C8258D694@sigma.net> I don't know about using the AllStar SIP service for non-amateur applications?. I'm guessing the AllStar SIP service helps support the AllStar project financially. There are plenty of SIP providers out there, but I normally use Vitelity.com and voip.ms as my SIP/IAX trunk providers. They've been reliable and are easy to deal with. Vitelity has a special PAIF deal that gives you a half price deal on some trunks with more or less unlimited incoming, but I mostly use the dollar a month trunks from both providers with metered usage at a penny or so a minute? (At a dollar a month I can do fun things like having a local DID number in my home town so my parents can call me with a seven digit local call?) Some of my systems are running high enough call volume that they would be abusing the unlimited trunks that are intended for residential/SOHO applications. Another good reason for the dedicated AllStar box: Later on, when I need another radio, I can add a URI to the existing AllStar PBX or I can use an RTCM to attach a non-local radio. On Feb 17, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Shane Morris wrote: > Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for > commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? > > However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler wrote: >> >> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate installs >> is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on >> Asterisk 1.4 >> and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the oldest >> stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. >> >> The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel >> framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. >> The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much >> abandoned in place. >> >> PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially easier >> to run for general purpose PBX situations. >> Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running while >> the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic command >> line >> driven system. >> >> If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe >> hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. >> It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since >> the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. >> >> I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large >> network, serving SIP phones at several locations. >> The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my >> larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M wrote: >> >> What would this kind of setup give aside more security? >> >> Envoy? de mon iPad >> >> Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Don Hackler >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >> To: Shane Morris >> >> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >> Use IAX to connect the two. >> >> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a >> different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and >> then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF >> box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >> >> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable >> setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >> >> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a >> Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, >> and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by >> one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave >> the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the >> cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, >> certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of >> weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can >> see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be >> suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I >> take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there >> are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security >> issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing >> 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you >> recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 >> "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on >> using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the >> outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, >> indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have >> to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, >> which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> From donh at sigma.net Mon Feb 18 06:54:59 2013 From: donh at sigma.net (Don Hackler) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:54:59 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A9B4F3D-537E-4B79-BF2B-075302F602A3@sigma.net> If you don't want the rest of the AllStar network connecting to you, it's easy enough to disable it. You simply don't register with the AllStar servers. Mostly, the AllStar network provides a directory service that publishes known AllStar nodes to each other so they can connect without prior setup. If your node is not published in the list, random systems can't connect to your node. If you have a network of exclusively commercial Acid/app_rpt systems, you can allow calls between them without involving the larger AllStar net, but you will need to explicitly define and enable the connections between those systems. You could even have one node on an AllStar box that can connect to the AllStar amateur network and another that can only connect to your private network. It's pretty flexible, but be prepared to get your head wrapped around editing the config files. On Feb 17, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Shane Morris wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shane Morris > Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: Re : Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media > To: pete M > > > Ok, I'm finding it hard to get my head around this, as I have held > both amateur and commercial licences, and indeed used both. > > As far as I know, legislation in Australia wouldn't allow for me to > arbitrarily - even by accident - link an amateur network to a > commercial network. I'd lose all my licences, and probably my job. Not > a good situation. > > However, according to Don, it sounds like hes doing precisely what I'm > thinking. What he isn't explaining is what ARE the networks. Ok, its a > large SIP network with an endpoint that just happens to be a ACiD > install. Cool. But what does the ACiD install connect to? Amateur, or > PMR? And if its commercial, how does he stop all the nice amateurs > playing AllStar, as we do, from connecting to his PMR network, and > thus not losing any licences? > > Look, these might be silly questions - but I'm told its "a radio > network." Ok, theres many types of radio networks. I understand you > guys mostly play amateur. I want to play commercial. Is that allowed? > > I mean, realistically, do you have any CBRS or GMRS endpoints on > AllStar? If so, how does that work? If not, then its cause of the > licences. I'm working under being totally in the dark about the > licencing here. > > Would it help if I just described what I want to do, and someone gives > me a "Yes it can be done" or "No you can't do that"? > > Thanks! > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM, pete M wrote: >> If you dont use any linking that is not. On your licence I dont see why it would not be ok. But I am notvthe best to answer that question >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Shane Morris >> Sent: 18 Feb 2013 05:32:41 GMT >> To: Don Hackler >> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media >> >> Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for >> commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? >> >> However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... >> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler wrote: >>> >>> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate installs >>> is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on >>> Asterisk 1.4 >>> and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the oldest >>> stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. >>> >>> The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel >>> framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. >>> The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much >>> abandoned in place. >>> >>> PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially easier >>> to run for general purpose PBX situations. >>> Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running while >>> the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic command >>> line >>> driven system. >>> >>> If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe >>> hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. >>> It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since >>> the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. >>> >>> I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large >>> network, serving SIP phones at several locations. >>> The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my >>> larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M wrote: >>> >>> What would this kind of setup give aside more security? >>> >>> Envoy? de mon iPad >>> >>> Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : >>> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: Don Hackler >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >>> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >>> To: Shane Morris >>> >>> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >>> Use IAX to connect the two. >>> >>> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a >>> different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and >>> then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF >>> box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >>> >>> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable >>> setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >>> >>> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a >>> Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >>> >>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, >>> and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by >>> one of the members of the list. >>> >>> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave >>> the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the >>> cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, >>> certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of >>> weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >>> >>> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can >>> see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be >>> suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I >>> take it from numerous discussions). >>> >>> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there >>> are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security >>> issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing >>> 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you >>> recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 >>> "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on >>> using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the >>> outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, >>> indial account(s). >>> >>> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have >>> to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, >>> which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for all your help! >>> >>> Shane. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From n3fe at repeater.net Mon Feb 18 14:15:28 2013 From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:15:28 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E04832BF4C7C5@exchange.mail.repeater.net> You just create private node numbers that allstar doesn't know about. I think some people confuse the system with the software. Asterisk app_rpt is the software, allstar is the public network they may connect to. I have both Private and public nodes. My public node has an allstar node number that authenticates itself to the allstar server. My private nodes authenticate to a seperate private server of my own and is not associated to the public allstar network. I can however add my node info into the rpt.conf on a public and private node and be able to access the public network from a private node... You can do what ever you want with it! Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Shane Morris [edgecomberts at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:59 AM To: app_rpt mailing list Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Shane Morris Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Re : Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media To: pete M Ok, I'm finding it hard to get my head around this, as I have held both amateur and commercial licences, and indeed used both. As far as I know, legislation in Australia wouldn't allow for me to arbitrarily - even by accident - link an amateur network to a commercial network. I'd lose all my licences, and probably my job. Not a good situation. However, according to Don, it sounds like hes doing precisely what I'm thinking. What he isn't explaining is what ARE the networks. Ok, its a large SIP network with an endpoint that just happens to be a ACiD install. Cool. But what does the ACiD install connect to? Amateur, or PMR? And if its commercial, how does he stop all the nice amateurs playing AllStar, as we do, from connecting to his PMR network, and thus not losing any licences? Look, these might be silly questions - but I'm told its "a radio network." Ok, theres many types of radio networks. I understand you guys mostly play amateur. I want to play commercial. Is that allowed? I mean, realistically, do you have any CBRS or GMRS endpoints on AllStar? If so, how does that work? If not, then its cause of the licences. I'm working under being totally in the dark about the licencing here. Would it help if I just described what I want to do, and someone gives me a "Yes it can be done" or "No you can't do that"? Thanks! On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM, pete M wrote: > If you dont use any linking that is not. On your licence I dont see why it would not be ok. But I am notvthe best to answer that question > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shane Morris > Sent: 18 Feb 2013 05:32:41 GMT > To: Don Hackler > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media > > Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for > commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? > > However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler wrote: >> >> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate installs >> is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on >> Asterisk 1.4 >> and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the oldest >> stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. >> >> The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel >> framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. >> The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much >> abandoned in place. >> >> PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially easier >> to run for general purpose PBX situations. >> Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running while >> the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic command >> line >> driven system. >> >> If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe >> hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. >> It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since >> the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. >> >> I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large >> network, serving SIP phones at several locations. >> The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my >> larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M wrote: >> >> What would this kind of setup give aside more security? >> >> Envoy? de mon iPad >> >> Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Don Hackler >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >> To: Shane Morris >> >> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >> Use IAX to connect the two. >> >> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a >> different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and >> then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF >> box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >> >> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable >> setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >> >> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a >> Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, >> and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by >> one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave >> the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the >> cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, >> certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of >> weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can >> see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be >> suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I >> take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there >> are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security >> issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing >> 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you >> recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 >> "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on >> using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the >> outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, >> indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have >> to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, >> which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. http://simba.repeater.net/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=513FF1FA3.AA3EE From petem001 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 18 14:40:00 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:40:00 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E04832BF4C7C5@exchange.mail.repeater.net> References: , <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E04832BF4C7C5@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Message-ID: Corey you made my day, I was pretty sure that was the answer. -----Message d'origine----- From: Corey Dean Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 9:15 AM To: Shane Morris ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media You just create private node numbers that allstar doesn't know about. I think some people confuse the system with the software. Asterisk app_rpt is the software, allstar is the public network they may connect to. I have both Private and public nodes. My public node has an allstar node number that authenticates itself to the allstar server. My private nodes authenticate to a seperate private server of my own and is not associated to the public allstar network. I can however add my node info into the rpt.conf on a public and private node and be able to access the public network from a private node... You can do what ever you want with it! Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Shane Morris [edgecomberts at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:59 AM To: app_rpt mailing list Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Shane Morris Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Re : Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media To: pete M Ok, I'm finding it hard to get my head around this, as I have held both amateur and commercial licences, and indeed used both. As far as I know, legislation in Australia wouldn't allow for me to arbitrarily - even by accident - link an amateur network to a commercial network. I'd lose all my licences, and probably my job. Not a good situation. However, according to Don, it sounds like hes doing precisely what I'm thinking. What he isn't explaining is what ARE the networks. Ok, its a large SIP network with an endpoint that just happens to be a ACiD install. Cool. But what does the ACiD install connect to? Amateur, or PMR? And if its commercial, how does he stop all the nice amateurs playing AllStar, as we do, from connecting to his PMR network, and thus not losing any licences? Look, these might be silly questions - but I'm told its "a radio network." Ok, theres many types of radio networks. I understand you guys mostly play amateur. I want to play commercial. Is that allowed? I mean, realistically, do you have any CBRS or GMRS endpoints on AllStar? If so, how does that work? If not, then its cause of the licences. I'm working under being totally in the dark about the licencing here. Would it help if I just described what I want to do, and someone gives me a "Yes it can be done" or "No you can't do that"? Thanks! On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM, pete M wrote: > If you dont use any linking that is not. On your licence I dont see why it > would not be ok. But I am notvthe best to answer that question > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shane Morris > Sent: 18 Feb 2013 05:32:41 GMT > To: Don Hackler > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media > > Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for > commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? > > However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler wrote: >> >> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate >> installs >> is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on >> Asterisk 1.4 >> and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the >> oldest >> stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. >> >> The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel >> framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. >> The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much >> abandoned in place. >> >> PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially >> easier >> to run for general purpose PBX situations. >> Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running >> while >> the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic >> command >> line >> driven system. >> >> If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe >> hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. >> It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since >> the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. >> >> I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large >> network, serving SIP phones at several locations. >> The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my >> larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M wrote: >> >> What would this kind of setup give aside more security? >> >> Envoy? de mon iPad >> >> Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Don Hackler >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >> To: Shane Morris >> >> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >> Use IAX to connect the two. >> >> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to >> use a >> different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and >> then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the >> PAIF >> box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >> >> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a >> stable >> setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >> >> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF >> on a >> Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, >> and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended >> by >> one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and >> leave >> the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the >> cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, >> certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple >> of >> weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I >> can >> see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would >> be >> suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I >> take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, >> there >> are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security >> issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not >> bashing >> 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would >> you >> recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 >> "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on >> using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the >> outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, >> indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll >> have >> to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX >> trunk, >> which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. http://simba.repeater.net/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=513FF1FA3.AA3EE _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From edgecomberts at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 21:07:11 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:07:11 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media In-Reply-To: References: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E04832BF4C7C5@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Message-ID: Not a bad effort. Sorry I haven't responded before now, I was asleep. Grumpy bear ^.^ Ok, I can set the nodes up on a private network. I understand the concept - simply replace the AllStar servers with one of your own. Cool. Now, how do I actually *do* that? Essentially, this radio network is planned to cover a large geographical area, and for redundancy, I want at least two app_rpt controllers feeding a network fanout of RTCMs. Pretty much, I'm going to wrangle that one is placed at my home, and one at my place of work, on dual redundant fibre links, and with appropriate battery backups. I am investigating this as we speak. Thats the easy part - all hardware, actually, something I do well. Where I fall down every time is the software. Imagine I have my two... well, I guess "AllStar server" lookalikes, since they'll be the main computers on the network to control and conduct the network. I imagine they'd publish the links back to the PABX system (ie, AllStar SIP service alike?), and they'd have these thin client nodes scattered around the place, potentially at radio sites on hills, being fed by either fibre or microwave links (Ubiquiti gear rocks!). Anything wrong with this picture so far? I look at it and it makes sense... so far. Now, my two AllStar servers are being fed from the nodes, and thus the RTCMs around the place. Connections back to the PABX network are effected by a SIP or IAX trunk, and thus back to the PSTN. All good so far. So now my question is: how do I create an AllStar server lookalike? Is there a nice guide that I can begin with, and take it from there? I mean, these $80 T5630w's are brilliant - just don't plug a non-working keyboard into them, they don't like booting if thats the case. I find these have the internal flash memory wiped, but thats ok, did I really want Windows XPe? I could, at the moment, realistically, fit another three in my rack, if I so wished (the rest of the rack is taken up with rectifiers and power supplies, and switch shelves and the like). On top of the rack - its an 18RU - will host a 3D printer in the next couple of weeks. I don't imagine the AllStar servers themselves would be a closed source product, especially if some of you are telling me you have some lookalikes that you've configured to look like the AllStar network. However, in my travels of the ohnosec website, I haven't found much reference to that software. So... where do I start? Thanks everyone for your help! On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:40 AM, pete M wrote: > Corey you made my day, I was pretty sure that was the answer. > > > > -----Message d'origine----- From: Corey Dean > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 9:15 AM > To: Shane Morris ; app_rpt mailing list > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media > > > You just create private node numbers that allstar doesn't know about. > > I think some people confuse the system with the software. Asterisk app_rpt > is the software, allstar is the public network they may connect to. I have > both Private and public nodes. My public node has an allstar node number > that authenticates itself to the allstar server. My private nodes > authenticate to a seperate private server of my own and is not associated to > the public allstar network. I can however add my node info into the > rpt.conf on a public and private node and be able to access the public > network from a private node... > > You can do what ever you want with it! > > Corey N3FE > ________________________________________ > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] > On Behalf Of Shane Morris [edgecomberts at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:59 AM > To: app_rpt mailing list > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shane Morris > Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: Re : Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media > To: pete M > > > Ok, I'm finding it hard to get my head around this, as I have held > both amateur and commercial licences, and indeed used both. > > As far as I know, legislation in Australia wouldn't allow for me to > arbitrarily - even by accident - link an amateur network to a > commercial network. I'd lose all my licences, and probably my job. Not > a good situation. > > However, according to Don, it sounds like hes doing precisely what I'm > thinking. What he isn't explaining is what ARE the networks. Ok, its a > large SIP network with an endpoint that just happens to be a ACiD > install. Cool. But what does the ACiD install connect to? Amateur, or > PMR? And if its commercial, how does he stop all the nice amateurs > playing AllStar, as we do, from connecting to his PMR network, and > thus not losing any licences? > > Look, these might be silly questions - but I'm told its "a radio > network." Ok, theres many types of radio networks. I understand you > guys mostly play amateur. I want to play commercial. Is that allowed? > > I mean, realistically, do you have any CBRS or GMRS endpoints on > AllStar? If so, how does that work? If not, then its cause of the > licences. I'm working under being totally in the dark about the > licencing here. > > Would it help if I just described what I want to do, and someone gives > me a "Yes it can be done" or "No you can't do that"? > > Thanks! > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM, pete M wrote: >> >> If you dont use any linking that is not. On your licence I dont see why it >> would not be ok. But I am notvthe best to answer that question >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Shane Morris >> Sent: 18 Feb 2013 05:32:41 GMT >> To: Don Hackler >> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media >> >> Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for >> commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? >> >> However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... >> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler wrote: >>> >>> >>> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate >>> installs >>> is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on >>> Asterisk 1.4 >>> and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the >>> oldest >>> stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. >>> >>> The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel >>> framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. >>> The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much >>> abandoned in place. >>> >>> PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially >>> easier >>> to run for general purpose PBX situations. >>> Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running >>> while >>> the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic >>> command >>> line >>> driven system. >>> >>> If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe >>> hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. >>> It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since >>> the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. >>> >>> I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large >>> network, serving SIP phones at several locations. >>> The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my >>> larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M wrote: >>> >>> What would this kind of setup give aside more security? >>> >>> Envoy? de mon iPad >>> >>> Le 17 Feb 2013 ? 17:45, "Don Hackler" a ?crit : >>> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: Don Hackler >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >>> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >>> To: Shane Morris >>> >>> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >>> Use IAX to connect the two. >>> >>> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to >>> use a >>> different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and >>> then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the >>> PAIF >>> box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >>> >>> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a >>> stable >>> setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >>> >>> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF >>> on a >>> Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >>> >>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, >>> and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended >>> by >>> one of the members of the list. >>> >>> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and >>> leave >>> the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the >>> cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, >>> certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple >>> of >>> weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >>> >>> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I >>> can >>> see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would >>> be >>> suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I >>> take it from numerous discussions). >>> >>> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, >>> there >>> are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security >>> issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not >>> bashing >>> 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would >>> you >>> recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 >>> "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on >>> using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the >>> outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, >>> indial account(s). >>> >>> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll >>> have >>> to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX >>> trunk, >>> which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for all your help! >>> >>> Shane. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -- > This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. > Click here to report this message as spam. > http://simba.repeater.net/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=513FF1FA3.AA3EE > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From tim.sawyer at me.com Mon Feb 18 22:17:42 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:17:42 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies Message-ID: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> The install process for beginners goes like this: 1. Buy a URI (recommended) or a cheap USB sound FOB 2. Go on the Allstar web site. Request an ID, get it approved. 3. Download the ACID iso and burn a CD. 4. Make your ID a sysOp, add a server, request a node(s). 5. Configure the server and assigned node(s). 6. Boot the CD and carefully follow the prompts. Expect to repeat steps 5 and 6 many times. It takes a while to sort it all out, stick to it. After you get the hang of the web install you can venture into the world of Linux and editing the conf files for advanced power user features. For example there is no web configuration for RTCMs but you can start with a URI config and hand modify. The change is actually pretty simple. Speaking of simple, for you cheap ass hams that want to run $80 computers don't do USBradio, use simpleUSB and wire up COR and PL. If you want to run Limey Linux rather than CentOS (ACID) you'll need to learn dd (it's available for Windows) to write a CF card. There are a couple of other tricks to Limey, like svcfg. Beginners should drop ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey. Be sure to read through all the links on the Allstar (https://allstarlink.org/) site BEFORE you login. Because after login the menu changes and much (if not all) of the basic information goes away. Also browse the ohnosec (http://ohnosec.org/drupal/) site. You don't need an ID to read this site. PS - ohnosec, that moment you realize you really screwed up. -- Tim :wq -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From telesistant at hotmail.com Mon Feb 18 23:33:59 2013 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:33:59 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> References: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> Message-ID: You know, its really funny. When Steve Henke was first releasing the XIPAR distro, I *really* tried to talk him into calling it XTC. Wouldn't it have been kewl if users could choose between ACID and XTC?? :-) Jim WB6NIL From: tim.sawyer at me.com Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:17:42 -0800 To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies The install process for beginners goes like this: 1. Buy a URI (recommended) or a cheap USB sound FOB2. Go on the Allstar web site. Request an ID, get it approved.3. Download the ACID iso and burn a CD. 4. Make your ID a sysOp, add a server, request a node(s).5. Configure the server and assigned node(s).6. Boot the CD and carefully follow the prompts. Expect to repeat steps 5 and 6 many times. It takes a while to sort it all out, stick to it. After you get the hang of the web install you can venture into the world of Linux and editing the conf files for advanced power user features. For example there is no web configuration for RTCMs but you can start with a URI config and hand modify. The change is actually pretty simple. Speaking of simple, for you cheap ass hams that want to run $80 computers don't do USBradio, use simpleUSB and wire up COR and PL. If you want to run Limey Linux rather than CentOS (ACID) you'll need to learn dd (it's available for Windows) to write a CF card. There are a couple of other tricks to Limey, like svcfg. Beginners should drop ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey. Be sure to read through all the links on the Allstar (https://allstarlink.org/) site BEFORE you login. Because after login the menu changes and much (if not all) of the basic information goes away. Also browse the ohnosec (http://ohnosec.org/drupal/) site. You don't need an ID to read this site. PS - ohnosec, that moment you realize you really screwed up. -- Tim :wq _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w7ry at centurytel.net Tue Feb 19 00:16:12 2013 From: w7ry at centurytel.net (Jim W7RY) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:16:12 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> References: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> Message-ID: <47C9DB3E45FF4ADA86D1ADB4340CA324@JimsLaptop> Also VERY IMPORTANT if you don?t want to try to learn Linux. Download WinSCP and use you windows computer to edit files. I?m not a Linux guru so this works the best for me! 73 Jim W7RY From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:17 PM To: mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies The install process for beginners goes like this: 1. Buy a URI (recommended) or a cheap USB sound FOB 2. Go on the Allstar web site. Request an ID, get it approved. 3. Download the ACID iso and burn a CD. 4. Make your ID a sysOp, add a server, request a node(s). 5. Configure the server and assigned node(s). 6. Boot the CD and carefully follow the prompts. Expect to repeat steps 5 and 6 many times. It takes a while to sort it all out, stick to it. After you get the hang of the web install you can venture into the world of Linux and editing the conf files for advanced power user features. For example there is no web configuration for RTCMs but you can start with a URI config and hand modify. The change is actually pretty simple. Speaking of simple, for you cheap ass hams that want to run $80 computers don't do USBradio, use simpleUSB and wire up COR and PL. If you want to run Limey Linux rather than CentOS (ACID) you'll need to learn dd (it's available for Windows) to write a CF card. There are a couple of other tricks to Limey, like svcfg. Beginners should drop ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey. Be sure to read through all the links on the Allstar (https://allstarlink.org/) site BEFORE you login. Because after login the menu changes and much (if not all) of the basic information goes away. Also browse the ohnosec (http://ohnosec.org/drupal/) site. You don't need an ID to read this site. PS - ohnosec, that moment you realize you really screwed up. -- Tim :wq -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vacuumtubesforever at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 01:24:39 2013 From: vacuumtubesforever at gmail.com (Ed Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:24:39 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Base BCD Channel Steering Message-ID: <5122D457.40109@gmail.com> I thought I saw mention once of bcd for remote base channel steering, but now not able to locate it. Can some one point me in the right direction? Thanks Ed W8VT Node 27849 Beckley, WV From wb3awj at comcast.net Tue Feb 19 01:51:17 2013 From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert a. Poff) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:51:17 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: References: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> Message-ID: <00e5be55-8f6f-4d2c-968f-05b28ffd05d0@email.android.com> So if you were running XTC in the morning would you find yourself connected to a strange node? And not know how you got there? Jim Duuuude wrote: > >You know, its really funny. When Steve Henke was first releasing the >XIPAR distro, I *really* tried to >talk him into calling it XTC. Wouldn't it have been kewl if users could >choose between ACID and XTC?? > >:-) > >Jim WB6NIL > -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From telesistant at hotmail.com Tue Feb 19 02:19:48 2013 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:19:48 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: <00e5be55-8f6f-4d2c-968f-05b28ffd05d0@email.android.com> References: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> , <00e5be55-8f6f-4d2c-968f-05b28ffd05d0@email.android.com> Message-ID: And you might also wonder what happened to your clothes... :-) > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies > From: wb3awj at comcast.net > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:51:17 -0500 > To: telesistant at hotmail.com; tim.sawyer at me.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > So if you were running XTC in the morning would you find yourself connected to a strange node? And not know how you got there? > > > Jim Duuuude wrote: > > > > >You know, its really funny. When Steve Henke was first releasing the > >XIPAR distro, I *really* tried to > >talk him into calling it XTC. 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URL: From edgecomberts at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 02:32:09 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:32:09 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: References: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> <00e5be55-8f6f-4d2c-968f-05b28ffd05d0@email.android.com> Message-ID: Amen to that - you know you had a good night... ^.~ On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote: > And you might also wonder what happened to your clothes... :-) > >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies >> From: wb3awj at comcast.net >> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:51:17 -0500 >> To: telesistant at hotmail.com; tim.sawyer at me.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > >> >> So if you were running XTC in the morning would you find yourself >> connected to a strange node? And not know how you got there? >> >> >> Jim Duuuude wrote: >> >> > >> >You know, its really funny. When Steve Henke was first releasing the >> >XIPAR distro, I *really* tried to >> >talk him into calling it XTC. Wouldn't it have been kewl if users could >> >choose between ACID and XTC?? >> > >> >:-) >> > >> >Jim WB6NIL >> > >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From yokshs at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 06:36:24 2013 From: yokshs at gmail.com (K&R Yoksh) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:36:24 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies Message-ID: <2C88B4D2FA62409BBD094E3210EA000A@main2> Couldn't help adding my .02, from the "cheap skate" point of view. 1a. Use the IRLP board you might already have (or buy a used one from a disgruntled IRLP owner, or build my homebrew PLRI circuit) 1b. Buy a $12 USB fob 1c. Reformat the IRLP hard drive you might already have 1d. Follow the "how to convert from IRLP to Allstar" article on my web site www.qsl.net/k0kn 1e. Enjoy! 73 Kyle Yoksh K0KN Olathe, KS Allstar 2210-2219 --- Original Message --- Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:17:42 -0800 From: Tim Sawyer To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org list" Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies Message-ID: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E at me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The install process for beginners goes like this: 1. Buy a URI (recommended) or a cheap USB sound FOB 2. Go on the Allstar web site. Request an ID, get it approved. 3. Download the ACID iso and burn a CD. 4. Make your ID a sysOp, add a server, request a node(s). 5. Configure the server and assigned node(s). 6. Boot the CD and carefully follow the prompts. Expect to repeat steps 5 and 6 many times. It takes a while to sort it all out, stick to it. After you get the hang of the web install you can venture into the world of Linux and editing the conf files for advanced power user features. For example there is no web configuration for RTCMs but you can start with a URI config and hand modify. The change is actually pretty simple. Speaking of simple, for you cheap ass hams that want to run $80 computers don't do USBradio, use simpleUSB and wire up COR and PL. If you want to run Limey Linux rather than CentOS (ACID) you'll need to learn dd (it's available for Windows) to write a CF card. There are a couple of other tricks to Limey, like svcfg. Beginners should drop ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey. Be sure to read through all the links on the Allstar (https://allstarlink.org/) site BEFORE you login. Because after login the menu changes and much (if not all) of the basic information goes away. Also browse the ohnosec (http://ohnosec.org/drupal/) site. You don't need an ID to read this site. PS - ohnosec, that moment you realize you really screwed up. -- Tim :wq From kb8pmy at kb8pmy.net Tue Feb 19 21:05:31 2013 From: kb8pmy at kb8pmy.net (Ryan Collier) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:05:31 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux Message-ID: Greetings all, I was wondering if there is any one that can help me with Limey linux? I just acquired a Mini-Itx and want to run asterisk on it. I want to use it to replace the laptop that I am using for it. I need to have festival and W0AMN Weather script dependecies installed but can not find yum or apt-get on it. Can I just compile everything by hand? 73 Ryan KB8PMY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 21:23:02 2013 From: k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Carrier) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:23:02 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i'd be interested in the WX script you're speaking of but W0AMN is not a valid call sign according to QRZ. Limey is a really scaled down version of ACID as I understand. You probably won't find most of what you're used to in a limey install. K0JSC On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Ryan Collier wrote: > Greetings all, > > I was wondering if there is any one that can help me with Limey linux? I > just acquired a Mini-Itx and want to run asterisk on it. I want to use it > to replace the laptop that I am using for it. I need to have festival and > W0AMN Weather script dependecies installed but can not find yum or apt-get > on it. Can I just compile everything by hand? > > 73 > Ryan > KB8PMY > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From telesistant at hotmail.com Tue Feb 19 22:09:21 2013 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:09:21 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: NOT GOING TO HAPPEN Limey doesnt even have the stuff to compile the stuff to compile the stuff that you want! If you want all that poop, use a normal distro, like ACID. Jim Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:05:31 -0500 From: kb8pmy at kb8pmy.net To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux Greetings all, I was wondering if there is any one that can help me with Limey linux? I just acquired a Mini-Itx and want to run asterisk on it. I want to use it to replace the laptop that I am using for it. I need to have festival and W0AMN Weather script dependecies installed but can not find yum or apt-get on it. Can I just compile everything by hand? 73 Ryan KB8PMY _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Wed Feb 20 01:23:07 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:23:07 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: Limey Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1361323387.1740.109.camel@benjamin-hp> It also must be noted, when doing a 'svcfg' on Limey Linux, it will only save the /etc dir and a couple others. Any other changes are not saved.... by default. I'm sure there might be a way around that, just have to make sure the changes to the script are saved in an area that are normally saved to flash... I use Limey Linux on a Neoware CA-22. No issues, works great. I use DSP for carrier and CTCSS detect and it works well even with weak signals into the RF portion of the node. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569 On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 14:09 -0800, Jim Duuuude wrote: > NOT GOING TO HAPPEN > > Limey doesnt even have the stuff to compile the stuff to compile the > stuff that you want! > > If you want all that poop, use a normal distro, like ACID. > > Jim > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:05:31 -0500 > From: kb8pmy at kb8pmy.net > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux > > Greetings all, > > > I was wondering if there is any one that can help me with Limey linux? > I just acquired a Mini-Itx and want to run asterisk on it. I want to > use it to replace the laptop that I am using for it. I need to have > festival and W0AMN Weather script dependecies installed but can not > find yum or apt-get on it. Can I just compile everything by hand? > > 73 > > Ryan > > KB8PMY > > > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing > list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Wed Feb 20 01:28:59 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:28:59 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> References: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> Message-ID: <1361323739.1740.114.camel@benjamin-hp> One must not forget to become a friendly ham and ask for training from someone or ham club that has one, on how to *properly* use a service monitor to tune their allstar node setups. While there is an alternative way, I really don't recommend it if they are going to have a community of users. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 14:17 -0800, Tim Sawyer wrote: > The install process for beginners goes like this: > > > 1. Buy a URI (recommended) or a cheap USB sound FOB > 2. Go on the Allstar web site. Request an ID, get it approved. > 3. Download the ACID iso and burn a CD. > 4. Make your ID a sysOp, add a server, request a node(s). > 5. Configure the server and assigned node(s). > 6. Boot the CD and carefully follow the prompts. > > > Expect to repeat steps 5 and 6 many times. It takes a while to sort it > all out, stick to it. > > > After you get the hang of the web install you can venture into the > world of Linux and editing the conf files for advanced power user > features. For example there is no web configuration for RTCMs but you > can start with a URI config and hand modify. The change is actually > pretty simple. > > > Speaking of simple, for you cheap ass hams that want to run $80 > computers don't do USBradio, use simpleUSB and wire up COR and PL. > > > If you want to run Limey Linux rather than CentOS (ACID) you'll need > to learn dd (it's available for Windows) to write a CF card. There are > a couple of other tricks to Limey, like svcfg. Beginners should drop > ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey. > > > Be sure to read through all the links on the Allstar > (https://allstarlink.org/) site BEFORE you login. Because after login > the menu changes and much (if not all) of the basic information goes > away. Also browse the ohnosec (http://ohnosec.org/drupal/) site. You > don't need an ID to read this site. > > > PS - ohnosec, that moment you realize you really screwed up. > -- > Tim > :wq > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From 8f27e956 at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 01:36:08 2013 From: 8f27e956 at gmail.com (S. Scott) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:36:08 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: <1361323739.1740.114.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> <1361323739.1740.114.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <-1080800496272387834@unknownmsgid> Naber wrote: "Beginners should drop ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey." Good one! ????? iThing: Big thumbs & little keys. Please excuse typo, spelling and grammar errors ? Thought of the Day ? "With all this manure, there must be a pony in here somewhere.? There are a couple of other tricks to Limey, like svcfg. Beginners should drop ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey. From tim.sawyer at me.com Wed Feb 20 03:53:40 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:53:40 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: <1361323739.1740.114.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E@me.com> <1361323739.1740.114.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <0A3529FC-0113-4051-89E9-BAB3EB698E5E@me.com> You know, that's so true. It's really important for you (or a friend) to have a service monitor and the knowledge to use it properly. App_rpt makes setting up a node so much easier and accurate than any of the other VoIP technologies, which is one of the reasons app_rpt sounds so good, but you still have to know what your are doing. My "App_rpt Install for Dummies" focused on the computer setup and assumes you're a radio wiz. -- Tim :wq On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: > One must not forget to become a friendly ham and ask for training from > someone or ham club that has one, on how to *properly* use a service > monitor to tune their allstar node setups. > > While there is an alternative way, I really don't recommend it if they > are going to have a community of users. > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ From petem001 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 20 06:20:28 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 01:20:28 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=A0=3A_Re=3A__=5BBulk=5D__App=5F?= =?iso-8859-1?q?rpt_Install_for_Dummies?= Message-ID: Why a service monitor? A deviation meter wont do it? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sawyer Sent: 20 Feb 2013 03:59:07 GMT To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org list,Benjamin L. Naber Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] App_rpt Install for Dummies You know, that's so true. It's really important for you (or a friend) to have a service monitor and the knowledge to use it properly. App_rpt makes setting up a node so much easier and accurate than any of the other VoIP technologies, which is one of the reasons app_rpt sounds so good, but you still have to know what your are doing. My "App_rpt Install for Dummies" focused on the computer setup and assumes you're a radio wiz. -- Tim :wq On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: > One must not forget to become a friendly ham and ask for training from > someone or ham club that has one, on how to *properly* use a service > monitor to tune their allstar node setups. > > While there is an alternative way, I really don't recommend it if they > are going to have a community of users. > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Wed Feb 20 12:50:53 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:50:53 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] =?iso-8859-1?q?=5BBulk=5D_Re=A0=3A_Re=3A__=5BBulk?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=5D_App=5Frpt_Install_for_Dummies?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1361364653.14026.6.camel@benjamin-hp> I think with a service monitor you will have a little more control. You'll be using the same master oscillator reference for both TX and RX adjustments Now, if you have an frequency accurate sig gen with 1KHz sine wave audio generator and you can set the deviation to 3KHz, then you'll probably be fine. On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 01:20 -0500, pete M wrote: > Why a service monitor? A deviation meter wont do it? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Sawyer > Sent: 20 Feb 2013 03:59:07 GMT > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org list,Benjamin L. Naber > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] App_rpt Install for Dummies > > You know, that's so true. It's really important for you (or a friend) to have a service monitor and the knowledge to use it properly. App_rpt makes setting up a node so much easier and accurate than any of the other VoIP technologies, which is one of the reasons app_rpt sounds so good, but you still have to know what your are doing. My "App_rpt Install for Dummies" focused on the computer setup and assumes you're a radio wiz. > -- > Tim > :wq > > On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: > > > One must not forget to become a friendly ham and ask for training from > > someone or ham club that has one, on how to *properly* use a service > > monitor to tune their allstar node setups. > > > > While there is an alternative way, I really don't recommend it if they > > are going to have a community of users. > > > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From tim.sawyer at me.com Wed Feb 20 15:02:22 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:02:22 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] App_rpt Install for Dummies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EA461D9-AC59-4CCA-ACFC-BC1B120268B4@me.com> Because radios have a receiver. -- Tim :wq On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:20 PM, pete M wrote: > Why a service monitor? From edgecomberts at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 20:09:08 2013 From: edgecomberts at gmail.com (Shane Morris) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:09:08 +1100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Update on app_rpt working on 3.x kernels? Message-ID: Hi Anthony, and list, I suspect some of you have had a look at the code on github, I haven't had a good look yet, but I plan to over the coming weeks. What I'd like to know is if anyone, apart from Anthony himself, has gotten this code working, and from all, if theres any "gotchas" I should observe in getting the code running. Additionally, due to things being a mess in Centos land (ie, everyones problems with ACiD booting on HP thin clients off USB stick, and my continuing problems with Centos anyway), I've decided to use Voyage ONE for my PABX controller, which is based on Debian. I have it running now on my thin client, and it needs to be configured properly. I have a friend who will assist with that, when we both get some time off...! In the meantime, due to the fact they're only $80 delivered, and I like them, they'll boot off an 8GB USB flash stick just fine (meaning I don't even touch the internal 2GB IDE SSD) I'm getting another thin client when I can, and attempting to run Anthony's code on it, under Arch Linux. Since I'm a Debian man, I'll just have to get my head around Pacman, but I have used it in the past, it seems similar to Debian. Of course, in the lead up to it, I'd like to know if anyone has run the code, gotten it working, and how you found it? My many thanks in advance for your help! Shane. From w9drr.ham at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 01:51:01 2013 From: w9drr.ham at gmail.com (Don Russell) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:51:01 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] KC6HUR/IRLP Weather scripts Message-ID: A couple years ago I hacked up randy's scripts to get the weather to work with allstar. I am redoing them now that the NWS went with the CAP protocol and zapped the RSS feed. before I completely re-invent the wheel has anyone else done this. Right now I am in grep sed hell . I am rewriting the scripts to go grab the weather the new way the NWS wants you to. its a hell of a mess right now. go get a url, part out a url go get that parse out text it's mostly working for one alert, but if there are more than one it gets really complex parsing that out. It does still get the current conditions and forecast still. sends it to cepstral for TTS and save them as ulaw for asterisk to play. If no one has done it can anyone chime in a help with the parsing. there is a perl module to do this but my perl-fu is weak! -- Don Russell, CBRE CBNT W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist http://www.socialengineer.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Thu Feb 21 03:26:10 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:26:10 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limux Linux or ACiD and Arduino Message-ID: <1361417170.14026.38.camel@benjamin-hp> I would like to know if anyone has successfully implemented using Arduino for any reason with either Limey Linux or ACiD. What I'd like to do is use the Arduino for it's analog inputs, at least this time. The initial idea is to monitor battery voltage and utility mains (using a wall wart for step-down) so if the battery voltage or utility mains drop below a set 'low' threshold, the allstar node will alert my via text/email. The another text/email when voltage has returned to another 'normal' threshold. Because there's already an Internet connection, I don't need to buy another Arduino shield and add more programming to the mess. Eventually, I'd like to change the CWID of the node, to reflect what type of power it's using. The node will ID (KB9LFZ) as it does normally for my simplex node, then if the utility mains fail, it will ID with KB9LFZ/BP.... or something to that effect. So, how to make the asterisk communicate harmoniously with Arduino while using Limey Linux or ACiD. There are a couple youtube videos with folks using asterisk with VoIP PBX distros such as FreePBX and AsteriskNOW, so there must be a way with Allstar versions of asterisk. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ Allstar node 28569 From k6kya at hokeynet.net Thu Feb 21 07:31:11 2013 From: k6kya at hokeynet.net (Steve Passmore) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:31:11 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] simpleusb and rxondelay Message-ID: I'm trying to rebuild a node which had been using usbradio to simpleusb. The node radio is linked to a repeater on-channel so I need to specify a small value using the rxondelay option in simpleusb.conf. Unfortunately no matter what value I put in rxondelay= it doesn't seem to make a change. Can anyone confirm that rxondelay works with simpleusb? Thanks, Steve From kt9ac at ameritech.net Thu Feb 21 16:51:39 2013 From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 08:51:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fun with Limey and HP T5710 so far Message-ID: <1361465499.20193.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Here are some notes from my first attempt to get Limey up and running on a T5710 Thin Client?(1.2Ghz Transmeta Efferon, 512MB flash chip board (not drive) and 512MB ram - PM705AA model). It's not as easy as the Drupal page would lead one to believe...Limey is actually ArchLinux and not CentOS like the ACID install is, so a lot of expected stuff doesn't work. I'm comfortable with Linux and willing to work through this, and perhaps a small group could write up their experiences with this tier of hardware on the Drupal site. Notes:Downloaded PenDrive and Ubuntu server ISO to make a bootable 4GB USB drive (this allowed persistent storage of the cfimg files under the /cdrom/doc folder).Booted into USB Rescue and ran fdisk to delete two Windows partitions off of 512MB flash.Ran the "dd if=cfimg-1.1.5 of=/dev/sdb" and wrote out 128MB image just fine.Rebooted 5710 and it stuck at "USB Hub detected". Inserted above USB drive and it proceeded to a login prompt. It does not see the URI at this point. Tried the 1.1.4 and 1.1.5 version for VIA here. Tried the i686-1.1.5 version and it didn't even get this far.No "This is your first time..." script ran like the Drupal page says. No eth0 came up either.Found out Limey is actually "Archlinux" and found the commands to get on the internet.Ran "ip link set dev eth0 up" and "ip addr add dev eth0"Was able to ping my default gateway and then edit /etc/resolv.conf to add "nameserver 8.8.8.8".How does one save changes back to the flash? The "svcfg" doesn't seem to exist...Once on the network, I switched to /usr/src and ran "getsrc" which downloaded Asterisk. I tried to do a "configure" but that failed. Read the README and did a usbradio_install but that also failed.This is a *really* stripped down version of Linux that uses 128MB of memory after installed. I am comfortable around Linux and CentOS and realize Limey isn't a beginner's O/S, one that I'm willing to work through.I might buy an 8GB USB drive and use that with a regular ACID install to get more functionality as a try of Ubuntu Server didn't have enough disk for an install (it did find all the devices just fine under Rescue mode since it's a newer distro), or perhaps CentOS 6.3 and roll my own compile of Allstar. Comments/suggestions are welcome!Thanks,Tony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com Thu Feb 21 17:00:15 2013 From: bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com (Bill Hurlock) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:00:15 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Quick posting check Message-ID: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416506638@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Just want to make sure I can post. Bill Hurlock CPCommunications 856-234-1661 Home Office 856-264-1010 Cell 914-345-9292 Ext.429 www.cpcomms.com WA2TQI ? Providing Solutions for Audio and Video Communications From bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com Thu Feb 21 18:00:24 2013 From: bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com (Bill Hurlock) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:00:24 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Monitoring the node server Message-ID: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416506675@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Is there a way to monitor my node server on a windows machine? Bill Hurlock CPCommunications 856-234-1661 Home Office 856-264-1010 Cell 914-345-9292 Ext.429 www.cpcomms.com WA2TQI ? Providing Solutions for Audio and Video Communications From bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com Thu Feb 21 18:03:31 2013 From: bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com (Bill Hurlock) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:03:31 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node ID no working Message-ID: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841650668C@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> I don't seem to have a working node ID. I have been listening for it since I got the node up 2 days ago but nothing heard. I can force it with a *80 command? Bill Hurlock CPCommunications 856-234-1661 Home Office 856-264-1010 Cell 914-345-9292 Ext.429 www.cpcomms.com WA2TQI ? Providing Solutions for Audio and Video Communications From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Thu Feb 21 18:15:03 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:15:03 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Monitoring the node server In-Reply-To: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416506675@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416506675@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Message-ID: <51266427.6030201@bdboyle.com> On 2/21/13 1:00 PM, Bill Hurlock wrote: > Is there a way to monitor my node server on a windows machine? Monitor what? Audio? The server itself? The answer will depend on what you want to monitor. If you want the former, the easiest is to sign into the allstar site, pull down the web transceiver tab, find your node, and connect via the web transceiver. The second? You will need a web server and some web building (minimal) skills, as well as activating the management interface so the scripts can pull the info from asterisk, as well as a net-accessible web instance. -- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me. Sent from my MacBook Pro. From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Thu Feb 21 18:17:03 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:17:03 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node ID no working In-Reply-To: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841650668C@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841650668C@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Message-ID: <5126649F.20605@bdboyle.com> On 2/21/13 1:03 PM, Bill Hurlock wrote: > I don't seem to have a working node ID. I have been listening for it since I got the node up 2 days ago but nothing heard. I can force it with a *80 command? you need a line in your rpt.conf stanza for the node that looks something like: idrecording = |iYourCallSign -- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me. Sent from my MacBook Pro. From bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com Thu Feb 21 18:33:03 2013 From: bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com (Bill Hurlock) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:33:03 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node ID no working Message-ID: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B84165066BA@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> I have idtime=540000 in rpt.conf Bill Hurlock -----Original Message----- From: Bill Hurlock Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:04 PM To: 'app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org' Subject: Node ID no working I don't seem to have a working node ID. I have been listening for it since I got the node up 2 days ago but nothing heard. I can force it with a *80 command? Bill Hurlock CPCommunications 856-234-1661 Home Office 856-264-1010 Cell 914-345-9292 Ext.429 www.cpcomms.com WA2TQI ? Providing Solutions for Audio and Video Communications From wb3awj at comcast.net Thu Feb 21 18:49:35 2013 From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff WB3AWJ) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node ID no working In-Reply-To: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841650668C@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Message-ID: <750037652.1518590.1361472575937.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Use the IaxRpt program. Look here : http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/iaxrpt And do what's here: http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/node/89 Works fine. In fact I also use it on Linux under Wine. Robert A. Poff Loganville, PA. "Lieutenant, target the offending power boat and launch photon torpedoes" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hurlock" To: "app rpt-users" Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:03:31 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node ID no working I don't seem to have a working node ID. I have been listening for it since I got the node up 2 days ago but nothing heard. I can force it with a *80 command? 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Poff WB3AWJ" To: "Bill Hurlock" Cc: "app rpt-users" Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:49:35 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Node ID no working Use the IaxRpt program. Look here : http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/iaxrpt And do what's here: http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/node/89 Works fine. In fact I also use it on Linux under Wine. Robert A. Poff Loganville, PA. "Lieutenant, target the offending power boat and launch photon torpedoes" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hurlock" To: "app rpt-users" Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:03:31 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node ID no working I don't seem to have a working node ID. I have been listening for it since I got the node up 2 days ago but nothing heard. I can force it with a *80 command? 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This is on a GM300 radio. I have CTCSS in the beagle.conf turned to NO, and I have HWINVERT set for the COR, the duplex is set to 0 as this is a simplex setup. But what is happening is that immediately when the beagle sees the COR it switches to transmit. As a result I can't get beagle tune rxdisplay to do anything. Anyone seen this? I'm about to go get the latest SVN (just did this a week or so ago) and rebuild. but it's very strange. I've watched the COR and it goes low and stays there when a signal is generated to the radio, so it's not cycling at the radio, it's something to do with either the Lox or the beagle software. Let me know if you would please. Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adamson_alan at hotmail.com Thu Feb 21 19:19:26 2013 From: adamson_alan at hotmail.com (Alan Adamson) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:19:26 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagle and Lox In-Reply-To: <973BCD91-BCD8-48D1-AB96-E6AB0662B3BB@gmail.com> References: <973BCD91-BCD8-48D1-AB96-E6AB0662B3BB@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is on a new install? Everything else seems to work, it builds just fine, it's just this COR issue that doesn't seem to work correctly? I'm going to share the Power with the Radio and the Beagle, it may be a differential that is causing the issue with a separate power supply. I'm also going to re-download the configuration files from the portal? Maybe I missed something in the originals that I did when I brought the first build up. Audio sounds good and TX is fine. Setting deviation was easy as always with AllStar. Alan From: Neal Garbenis [mailto:njgarbenis at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:17 PM To: Alan Adamson Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagle and Lox Alan Was it working before you updated to the latest svn? Just curious because In most cases when I have updated to the newest source. Lots of stuff doesn't compile correctly. And everything seems to break When you update make sure to shut asterisk off. This helps when compiling not so many errors Neal Garbenis Jr. NG8Y On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: I've got a good one? I'm sure someone else must have had the same issue. I've got cables from Lox cables so I'm pretty sure the cables are correct. I've programmed the radio and pull the COR down *low* on both COR AND PL. This is on a GM300 radio. I have CTCSS in the beagle.conf turned to NO, and I have HWINVERT set for the COR, the duplex is set to 0 as this is a simplex setup. But what is happening is that immediately when the beagle sees the COR it switches to transmit. As a result I can't get beagle tune rxdisplay to do anything. Anyone seen this? I'm about to go get the latest SVN (just did this a week or so ago) and rebuild? but it's very strange? I've watched the COR and it goes low and stays there when a signal is generated to the radio, so it's not cycling at the radio, it's something to do with either the Lox or the beagle software. Let me know if you would please. Alan _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adamson_alan at hotmail.com Thu Feb 21 20:17:39 2013 From: adamson_alan at hotmail.com (Alan Adamson) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:17:39 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagle and Lox In-Reply-To: <005a01ce1069$89a18ec0$9ce4ac40$@hotmail.com> References: <973BCD91-BCD8-48D1-AB96-E6AB0662B3BB@gmail.com> <005a01ce1069$89a18ec0$9ce4ac40$@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Ok, all fixed? Don't know what it was, but a rebuild and redownload of the config files from the portal resolved it?. Plus this version of files looks more closely like the one from my main server. So a bit more audio tweaking and I hope to have 2 simplex nodex off a Beagle and Lox ready for some family members out of state :)? Alan From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Alan Adamson Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:19 PM To: 'Neal Garbenis' Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagle and Lox This is on a new install? Everything else seems to work, it builds just fine, it's just this COR issue that doesn't seem to work correctly? I'm going to share the Power with the Radio and the Beagle, it may be a differential that is causing the issue with a separate power supply. I'm also going to re-download the configuration files from the portal? Maybe I missed something in the originals that I did when I brought the first build up. Audio sounds good and TX is fine. Setting deviation was easy as always with AllStar. Alan From: Neal Garbenis [mailto:njgarbenis at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:17 PM To: Alan Adamson Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Beagle and Lox Alan Was it working before you updated to the latest svn? Just curious because In most cases when I have updated to the newest source. Lots of stuff doesn't compile correctly. And everything seems to break When you update make sure to shut asterisk off. This helps when compiling not so many errors Neal Garbenis Jr. NG8Y On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Alan Adamson wrote: I've got a good one? I'm sure someone else must have had the same issue. I've got cables from Lox cables so I'm pretty sure the cables are correct. I've programmed the radio and pull the COR down *low* on both COR AND PL. This is on a GM300 radio. I have CTCSS in the beagle.conf turned to NO, and I have HWINVERT set for the COR, the duplex is set to 0 as this is a simplex setup. But what is happening is that immediately when the beagle sees the COR it switches to transmit. As a result I can't get beagle tune rxdisplay to do anything. Anyone seen this? I'm about to go get the latest SVN (just did this a week or so ago) and rebuild? but it's very strange? I've watched the COR and it goes low and stays there when a signal is generated to the radio, so it's not cycling at the radio, it's something to do with either the Lox or the beagle software. Let me know if you would please. Alan _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com Thu Feb 21 23:00:08 2013 From: bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com (Bill Hurlock) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:00:08 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Monitoring the node server In-Reply-To: <53678A81-97F0-4548-B8D5-961BEB79A2AD@mac.com> References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416506675@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> <53678A81-97F0-4548-B8D5-961BEB79A2AD@mac.com> Message-ID: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B84165068DE@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> I like that a lot. I would have to put together a quick website for it. I guess I could build the website up on my internet host server. Is it very difficult to get the voter stuff up and running. I have 3 of the RTCM modules setting on my door step to set up a test bench for and upcoming project. The my next project. I need to set up 2 simulcast TX sites with 4 TX's at each site with 4 RX's at each site. The TX is a bit unusual in that the TX's are 100% keydown during the event they will be used at. These are temporary events and the configuration changes from job to job. I'm sure learning a lot really fast. It's been a while on the Lynx side of things, so that slowed me down a bit. I still have to pick up a couple GPS units for the sites. Not sure what I'm going to use just yet still looking. Bill Hurlock From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer at mac.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:35 PM To: Bill Hurlock Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Monitoring the node server If you need app_rpt control without audio check out my Allmon web application. Allmon is a web site for managing one or more app_rpt Allstar nodes. Each managed local node shows a list of connected nodes. The list is sorted in reverse order of the most recently received node. So the lastnode to talk is always at the top of the list. Any node that is currently being received will be highlighted by a green background as well as moving to the top of the list. The node list is updated once a second giving near-real-time status. Allmon will also monitor VOTER clients. Each VOTER instance displays a list attached Radio Thin Client Modules (RTCM). The RSSI for each RTCM is displayed in bar graph style along with a color to indicate the currently voted RTCM. Have a look at my live Allmon site http://wd6awp.net/allmon/ and download it for your own use here: http://github.com/tsawyer/allmon -- Tim :wq On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Bill Hurlock > wrote: Is there a way to monitor my node server on a windows machine? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Fri Feb 22 01:57:28 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:57:28 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fun with Limey and HP T5710 so far In-Reply-To: <1361465499.20193.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1361465499.20193.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1361498248.14026.59.camel@benjamin-hp> Limey Linux will only work on a few mini-ITX boards. I was lucky that I got mine running on a Neoware CA-22. However, the VIA version did not work, so I used the i686 version. Booted up just fine. I have noticed I've had plenty trouble with the HP thin clients with other Linux distros for embedded machines. The older Neowares seem to run much better, and faster. I'd like to provide an answer for that, but I honestly don't have a clue why. DO NOT TRY TO RUN ACID ON A THUMB DRIVE!!! Limey linux, when booted, loads a compresses image to RAM, then decompresses it. Limey Linux runs from RAM. ACiD does not. If you try it, not only will ACiD be slow to boot on a thumb drive, the thumb drive will die because of all the read/write cycles that are meant for a spinning hard drive. An allstar user/node owner in Pennsylvania reported the slow booting. When dd'ing to flash drive, for most cases you want to specify bs=16k at the end of the line. You may even try "gunzip -c <.img> | of=/dev/sdx bs=16k". That is the line I used on DamnSmallLinux console to burn the Limey Linux image file to the neoware's flash drive. There is zero need to run cfdisk or any of that mess before hand. If I remember right, svcfg is located in the /usr/bin, or the /usr/sbin directory. If it is in one of those two and you cannot do a svcfg from the prompt, chances are a path got screwed up somewhere. At the prompt, you might be able to do /usr/sbin/svcfg and that should work. If you want to try running ACiD on thin client, my best advice is to get a USB hard drive, and run it from there. You may have to play around with the formating on the USB hard drive for it to work correctly. Some BIOSs do not like anything other than VFAT or NTFS for booting purposes. You may be able to make a double partition and and have VFAT for booting, and ext3 for anything else. Have fun with grub or lilo to make sure it boots from the correct partition. If you really want to get crazy with it, use of of your Linux servers as a PXE boot server, and have the thin client load the Limey Linux from there. Not sure how well save would work though..... ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569 On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 08:51 -0800, Tony KT9AC wrote: > Here are some notes from my first attempt to get Limey up and running > on a T5710 Thin Client (1.2Ghz Transmeta Efferon, 512MB flash chip > board (not drive) and 512MB ram - PM705AA model). > > > It's not as easy as the Drupal page would lead one to believe...Limey > is actually ArchLinux and not CentOS like the ACID install is, so a > lot of expected stuff doesn't work. I'm comfortable with Linux and > willing to work through this, and perhaps a small group could write up > their experiences with this tier of hardware on the Drupal site. > > > Notes: > * Downloaded PenDrive and Ubuntu server ISO to make a bootable > 4GB USB drive (this allowed persistent storage of the cfimg > files under the /cdrom/doc folder). > * Booted into USB Rescue and ran fdisk to delete two Windows > partitions off of 512MB flash. > * Ran the "dd if=cfimg-1.1.5 of=/dev/sdb" and wrote out 128MB > image just fine. > * Rebooted 5710 and it stuck at "USB Hub detected". Inserted > above USB drive and it proceeded to a login prompt. It does > not see the URI at this point. Tried the 1.1.4 and 1.1.5 > version for VIA here. Tried the i686-1.1.5 version and it > didn't even get this far. > * No "This is your first time..." script ran like the Drupal > page says. No eth0 came up either. > * Found out Limey is actually "Archlinux" and found the commands > to get on the internet. > * Ran "ip link set dev eth0 up" and "ip addr add > dev eth0" > * Was able to ping my default gateway and then > edit /etc/resolv.conf to add "nameserver 8.8.8.8". > * How does one save changes back to the flash? The "svcfg" > doesn't seem to exist... > * Once on the network, I switched to /usr/src and ran "getsrc" > which downloaded Asterisk. I tried to do a "configure" but > that failed. Read the README and did a usbradio_install but > that also failed. > * This is a *really* stripped down version of Linux that uses > 128MB of memory after installed. I am comfortable around Linux > and CentOS and realize Limey isn't a beginner's O/S, one that > I'm willing to work through. > * I might buy an 8GB USB drive and use that with a regular ACID > install to get more functionality as a try of Ubuntu Server > didn't have enough disk for an install (it did find all the > devices just fine under Rescue mode since it's a newer > distro), or perhaps CentOS 6.3 and roll my own compile of > Allstar. > > > Comments/suggestions are welcome! > Thanks, > Tony > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From ars.w7fed at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 20:24:27 2013 From: ars.w7fed at gmail.com (Neil Addis) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:24:27 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Monitor Node on Windows Message-ID: Bill (and the group), There are several ways to monitor/control your node remotely; 1: To monitor the server activity (not audio) remotely, use *PuTTY*. You connect via SSH as a remote terminal session. With this, you can type any command as if you are at the server console. Download PuTTY for windows and install. (I also use "*ConnectBot*" on my android phone!) 2: To monitor audio, you can install *iaxRpt* and depending on the config files, you can talk (and command) your node. (requires Java). 3: Install/configure *echolink* and from any Windows, Mac (under wine), or android device, and you can connect and monitor/talk on your node from anywhere. 4: Configure a SIP "peer" extension and monitor/talk/command your node from any SIP phone (Softphone, or physical SIP phone on your desk. (I built a separate Asterisk box and setup all of my nodes as extensions on the PBX, thereby allowing me to connect any SIP device (see above) and connect/monitor/control/talk to my node(s). It also allows me to use the PBX as a dial-out/dial-in to the real world (via a Magic-Jack) as well as having access to all the other PBX features!) from my handie-talkie. 5: To MANAGE your node from your windows box, download and install *WinSCP*. This allows you to manage the FILES on your server. Great "Explorer" type GUI. You can navigate through the file structure, edit/copy/create/etc any file(s). I also use it to copy all of my /etc/asterisk files to my NAS as a backup. If I need to reload a server, I run ACID, then drag all the /etc/asterisk files into the reloaded box and reboot. Viola! Hope this helps (a little). *Neil* *W7FED* Burien (SEATAC), WA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adamson_alan at hotmail.com Sat Feb 23 22:35:46 2013 From: adamson_alan at hotmail.com (adamson_alan) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:35:46 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hub node to test on? Message-ID: All I'm looking for a hub node that I can test on. ? I've got two All star servers on the same network and was hoping some one might have a personal hub node that I might connect them both to? ?I don't want to deal with reconfiguring to connect them directly together as they aren't going to live on the same network when they are deployed. ?Just looking for a temp test setup.? Let me know if one exists Thanks Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kt9ac at ameritech.net Sat Feb 23 23:11:44 2013 From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:11:44 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fun with Limey and HP T5710 so far In-Reply-To: <1361498248.14026.59.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <1361465499.20193.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1361498248.14026.59.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <51294CB0.6080502@ameritech.net> Could someone please post a working combination of Linux distro and version of Allstar/Asterisk that is working for them on a Thin Client? I currently have the most current version of ArchLinux running nicely but can't get past the Allstar compile (tried both ACID and Limey 1.1.5 tarballs). I guess I don't care what the distro is, I just have three Thin Clients than I need to get ready to deploy. Thanks, Tony On 2/21/2013 7:57 PM, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: > Limey Linux will only work on a few mini-ITX boards. I was lucky that I > got mine running on a Neoware CA-22. However, the VIA version did not > work, so I used the i686 version. Booted up just fine. > > I have noticed I've had plenty trouble with the HP thin clients with > other Linux distros for embedded machines. The older Neowares seem to > run much better, and faster. I'd like to provide an answer for that, but > I honestly don't have a clue why. > > DO NOT TRY TO RUN ACID ON A THUMB DRIVE!!! > > Limey linux, when booted, loads a compresses image to RAM, then > decompresses it. Limey Linux runs from RAM. ACiD does not. If you try > it, not only will ACiD be slow to boot on a thumb drive, the thumb drive > will die because of all the read/write cycles that are meant for a > spinning hard drive. An allstar user/node owner in Pennsylvania reported > the slow booting. > > When dd'ing to flash drive, for most cases you want to specify bs=16k at > the end of the line. You may even try "gunzip -c <.img> | of=/dev/sdx > bs=16k". That is the line I used on DamnSmallLinux console to burn the > Limey Linux image file to the neoware's flash drive. There is zero need > to run cfdisk or any of that mess before hand. > > If I remember right, svcfg is located in the /usr/bin, or the /usr/sbin > directory. If it is in one of those two and you cannot do a svcfg from > the prompt, chances are a path got screwed up somewhere. At the prompt, > you might be able to do /usr/sbin/svcfg and that should work. > > If you want to try running ACiD on thin client, my best advice is to get > a USB hard drive, and run it from there. You may have to play around > with the formating on the USB hard drive for it to work correctly. Some > BIOSs do not like anything other than VFAT or NTFS for booting purposes. > You may be able to make a double partition and and have VFAT for > booting, and ext3 for anything else. Have fun with grub or lilo to make > sure it boots from the correct partition. > > If you really want to get crazy with it, use of of your Linux servers as > a PXE boot server, and have the thin client load the Limey Linux from > there. Not sure how well save would work though..... > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > allstar node 28569 > > > On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 08:51 -0800, Tony KT9AC wrote: >> Here are some notes from my first attempt to get Limey up and running >> on a T5710 Thin Client (1.2Ghz Transmeta Efferon, 512MB flash chip >> board (not drive) and 512MB ram - PM705AA model). >> >> >> It's not as easy as the Drupal page would lead one to believe...Limey >> is actually ArchLinux and not CentOS like the ACID install is, so a >> lot of expected stuff doesn't work. I'm comfortable with Linux and >> willing to work through this, and perhaps a small group could write up >> their experiences with this tier of hardware on the Drupal site. >> >> >> Notes: >> * Downloaded PenDrive and Ubuntu server ISO to make a bootable >> 4GB USB drive (this allowed persistent storage of the cfimg >> files under the /cdrom/doc folder). >> * Booted into USB Rescue and ran fdisk to delete two Windows >> partitions off of 512MB flash. >> * Ran the "dd if=cfimg-1.1.5 of=/dev/sdb" and wrote out 128MB >> image just fine. >> * Rebooted 5710 and it stuck at "USB Hub detected". Inserted >> above USB drive and it proceeded to a login prompt. It does >> not see the URI at this point. Tried the 1.1.4 and 1.1.5 >> version for VIA here. Tried the i686-1.1.5 version and it >> didn't even get this far. >> * No "This is your first time..." script ran like the Drupal >> page says. No eth0 came up either. >> * Found out Limey is actually "Archlinux" and found the commands >> to get on the internet. >> * Ran "ip link set dev eth0 up" and "ip addr add >> dev eth0" >> * Was able to ping my default gateway and then >> edit /etc/resolv.conf to add "nameserver 8.8.8.8". >> * How does one save changes back to the flash? The "svcfg" >> doesn't seem to exist... >> * Once on the network, I switched to /usr/src and ran "getsrc" >> which downloaded Asterisk. I tried to do a "configure" but >> that failed. Read the README and did a usbradio_install but >> that also failed. >> * This is a *really* stripped down version of Linux that uses >> 128MB of memory after installed. I am comfortable around Linux >> and CentOS and realize Limey isn't a beginner's O/S, one that >> I'm willing to work through. >> * I might buy an 8GB USB drive and use that with a regular ACID >> install to get more functionality as a try of Ubuntu Server >> didn't have enough disk for an install (it did find all the >> devices just fine under Rescue mode since it's a newer >> distro), or perhaps CentOS 6.3 and roll my own compile of >> Allstar. >> >> >> Comments/suggestions are welcome! >> Thanks, >> Tony >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > From adamson_alan at hotmail.com Sat Feb 23 23:16:16 2013 From: adamson_alan at hotmail.com (adamson_alan) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:16:16 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hub node to test on? Message-ID: Thanks all. ? I've got a hand full of options to work with.? Alan -------- Original message -------- From: adamson_alan Date: 02/23/2013 5:35 PM (GMT-05:00) To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hub node to test on? All I'm looking for a hub node that I can test on. ? I've got two All star servers on the same network and was hoping some one might have a personal hub node that I might connect them both to? ?I don't want to deal with reconfiguring to connect them directly together as they aren't going to live on the same network when they are deployed. ?Just looking for a temp test setup.? Let me know if one exists Thanks Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 24 00:04:48 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 19:04:48 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fun with Limey and HP T5710 so far In-Reply-To: <51294CB0.6080502@ameritech.net> References: <1361465499.20193.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1361498248.14026.59.camel@benjamin-hp> <51294CB0.6080502@ameritech.net> Message-ID: Got acid running on my t5630. But i had to change the flash drive for a small 6 gig drive. A 4 gig one would do.. Just replace the flash drive by a 44 pin ide to cf card adaptor and buy a smal cf format hard disk something like this model number ST650211CF as the HD The adator look like this : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/CF-Compact-Flash-to-2-5-IDE-44-Pin-Male-Adapter-Card-Type-I-II-III-MicroDrive-/170856977729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c7de9541&_uhb=1#ht_2893wt_1130 Envoy? de mon iPad Le 23 Feb 2013 ? 18:14, "Tony KT9AC" a ?crit : > Could someone please post a working combination of Linux distro and version of Allstar/Asterisk that is working for them on a Thin Client? I currently have the most current version of ArchLinux running nicely but can't get past the Allstar compile (tried both ACID and Limey 1.1.5 tarballs). > > I guess I don't care what the distro is, I just have three Thin Clients than I need to get ready to deploy. > > Thanks, > Tony > > > On 2/21/2013 7:57 PM, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: >> Limey Linux will only work on a few mini-ITX boards. I was lucky that I >> got mine running on a Neoware CA-22. However, the VIA version did not >> work, so I used the i686 version. Booted up just fine. >> >> I have noticed I've had plenty trouble with the HP thin clients with >> other Linux distros for embedded machines. The older Neowares seem to >> run much better, and faster. I'd like to provide an answer for that, but >> I honestly don't have a clue why. >> >> DO NOT TRY TO RUN ACID ON A THUMB DRIVE!!! >> >> Limey linux, when booted, loads a compresses image to RAM, then >> decompresses it. Limey Linux runs from RAM. ACiD does not. If you try >> it, not only will ACiD be slow to boot on a thumb drive, the thumb drive >> will die because of all the read/write cycles that are meant for a >> spinning hard drive. An allstar user/node owner in Pennsylvania reported >> the slow booting. >> >> When dd'ing to flash drive, for most cases you want to specify bs=16k at >> the end of the line. You may even try "gunzip -c <.img> | of=/dev/sdx >> bs=16k". That is the line I used on DamnSmallLinux console to burn the >> Limey Linux image file to the neoware's flash drive. There is zero need >> to run cfdisk or any of that mess before hand. >> >> If I remember right, svcfg is located in the /usr/bin, or the /usr/sbin >> directory. If it is in one of those two and you cannot do a svcfg from >> the prompt, chances are a path got screwed up somewhere. At the prompt, >> you might be able to do /usr/sbin/svcfg and that should work. >> >> If you want to try running ACiD on thin client, my best advice is to get >> a USB hard drive, and run it from there. You may have to play around >> with the formating on the USB hard drive for it to work correctly. Some >> BIOSs do not like anything other than VFAT or NTFS for booting purposes. >> You may be able to make a double partition and and have VFAT for >> booting, and ext3 for anything else. Have fun with grub or lilo to make >> sure it boots from the correct partition. >> >> If you really want to get crazy with it, use of of your Linux servers as >> a PXE boot server, and have the thin client load the Limey Linux from >> there. Not sure how well save would work though..... >> >> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ >> allstar node 28569 >> >> >> On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 08:51 -0800, Tony KT9AC wrote: >>> Here are some notes from my first attempt to get Limey up and running >>> on a T5710 Thin Client (1.2Ghz Transmeta Efferon, 512MB flash chip >>> board (not drive) and 512MB ram - PM705AA model). >>> >>> >>> It's not as easy as the Drupal page would lead one to believe...Limey >>> is actually ArchLinux and not CentOS like the ACID install is, so a >>> lot of expected stuff doesn't work. I'm comfortable with Linux and >>> willing to work through this, and perhaps a small group could write up >>> their experiences with this tier of hardware on the Drupal site. >>> >>> >>> Notes: >>> * Downloaded PenDrive and Ubuntu server ISO to make a bootable >>> 4GB USB drive (this allowed persistent storage of the cfimg >>> files under the /cdrom/doc folder). >>> * Booted into USB Rescue and ran fdisk to delete two Windows >>> partitions off of 512MB flash. >>> * Ran the "dd if=cfimg-1.1.5 of=/dev/sdb" and wrote out 128MB >>> image just fine. >>> * Rebooted 5710 and it stuck at "USB Hub detected". Inserted >>> above USB drive and it proceeded to a login prompt. It does >>> not see the URI at this point. Tried the 1.1.4 and 1.1.5 >>> version for VIA here. Tried the i686-1.1.5 version and it >>> didn't even get this far. >>> * No "This is your first time..." script ran like the Drupal >>> page says. No eth0 came up either. >>> * Found out Limey is actually "Archlinux" and found the commands >>> to get on the internet. >>> * Ran "ip link set dev eth0 up" and "ip addr add >>> dev eth0" >>> * Was able to ping my default gateway and then >>> edit /etc/resolv.conf to add "nameserver 8.8.8.8". >>> * How does one save changes back to the flash? The "svcfg" >>> doesn't seem to exist... >>> * Once on the network, I switched to /usr/src and ran "getsrc" >>> which downloaded Asterisk. I tried to do a "configure" but >>> that failed. Read the README and did a usbradio_install but >>> that also failed. >>> * This is a *really* stripped down version of Linux that uses >>> 128MB of memory after installed. I am comfortable around Linux >>> and CentOS and realize Limey isn't a beginner's O/S, one that >>> I'm willing to work through. >>> * I might buy an 8GB USB drive and use that with a regular ACID >>> install to get more functionality as a try of Ubuntu Server >>> didn't have enough disk for an install (it did find all the >>> devices just fine under Rescue mode since it's a newer >>> distro), or perhaps CentOS 6.3 and roll my own compile of >>> Allstar. >>> >>> >>> Comments/suggestions are welcome! >>> Thanks, >>> Tony >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Providing Solutions for Audio and Video Communications From kt9ac at ameritech.net Sun Feb 24 01:51:20 2013 From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 19:51:20 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fun with Limey and HP T5710 so far In-Reply-To: References: <1361465499.20193.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1361498248.14026.59.camel@benjamin-hp> <51294CB0.6080502@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <51297218.9070303@ameritech.net> Thanks to everyone who replied, I think I was too caught up in getting these to run with a "thin" Linux install. I am going to order a few adapters and new 8GB CF drives. I did learn that the CF drives work in parallel versus USB sticks that work in serial and therefore are slower. Tony On 2/23/2013 6:04 PM, pete M wrote: > Got acid running on my t5630. But i had to change the flash drive for > a small 6 gig drive. A 4 gig one would do.. > > Just replace the flash drive by a 44 pin ide to cf card adaptor and > buy a smal cf format hard disk something like this model number > ST650211CF > as > the HD > > The adator look like this : > http://www.ebay.ca/itm/CF-Compact-Flash-to-2-5-IDE-44-Pin-Male-Adapter-Card-Type-I-II-III-MicroDrive-/170856977729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c7de9541&_uhb=1#ht_2893wt_1130 > > > > Envoy? de mon iPad > > Le 23 Feb 2013 ? 18:14, "Tony KT9AC" > a ?crit : > >> Could someone please post a working combination of Linux distro and >> version of Allstar/Asterisk that is working for them on a Thin >> Client? I currently have the most current version of ArchLinux >> running nicely but can't get past the Allstar compile (tried both >> ACID and Limey 1.1.5 tarballs). >> >> I guess I don't care what the distro is, I just have three Thin >> Clients than I need to get ready to deploy. >> >> Thanks, >> Tony >> >> >> On 2/21/2013 7:57 PM, Benjamin L. Naber wrote: >>> Limey Linux will only work on a few mini-ITX boards. I was lucky that I >>> got mine running on a Neoware CA-22. However, the VIA version did not >>> work, so I used the i686 version. Booted up just fine. >>> >>> I have noticed I've had plenty trouble with the HP thin clients with >>> other Linux distros for embedded machines. The older Neowares seem to >>> run much better, and faster. I'd like to provide an answer for that, but >>> I honestly don't have a clue why. >>> >>> DO NOT TRY TO RUN ACID ON A THUMB DRIVE!!! >>> >>> Limey linux, when booted, loads a compresses image to RAM, then >>> decompresses it. Limey Linux runs from RAM. ACiD does not. If you try >>> it, not only will ACiD be slow to boot on a thumb drive, the thumb drive >>> will die because of all the read/write cycles that are meant for a >>> spinning hard drive. An allstar user/node owner in Pennsylvania reported >>> the slow booting. >>> >>> When dd'ing to flash drive, for most cases you want to specify bs=16k at >>> the end of the line. You may even try "gunzip -c <.img> | of=/dev/sdx >>> bs=16k". That is the line I used on DamnSmallLinux console to burn the >>> Limey Linux image file to the neoware's flash drive. There is zero need >>> to run cfdisk or any of that mess before hand. >>> >>> If I remember right, svcfg is located in the /usr/bin, or the /usr/sbin >>> directory. If it is in one of those two and you cannot do a svcfg from >>> the prompt, chances are a path got screwed up somewhere. At the prompt, >>> you might be able to do /usr/sbin/svcfg and that should work. >>> >>> If you want to try running ACiD on thin client, my best advice is to get >>> a USB hard drive, and run it from there. You may have to play around >>> with the formating on the USB hard drive for it to work correctly. Some >>> BIOSs do not like anything other than VFAT or NTFS for booting purposes. >>> You may be able to make a double partition and and have VFAT for >>> booting, and ext3 for anything else. Have fun with grub or lilo to make >>> sure it boots from the correct partition. >>> >>> If you really want to get crazy with it, use of of your Linux servers as >>> a PXE boot server, and have the thin client load the Limey Linux from >>> there. Not sure how well save would work though..... >>> >>> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ >>> allstar node 28569 >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 08:51 -0800, Tony KT9AC wrote: >>>> Here are some notes from my first attempt to get Limey up and running >>>> on a T5710 Thin Client (1.2Ghz Transmeta Efferon, 512MB flash chip >>>> board (not drive) and 512MB ram - PM705AA model). >>>> >>>> >>>> It's not as easy as the Drupal page would lead one to believe...Limey >>>> is actually ArchLinux and not CentOS like the ACID install is, so a >>>> lot of expected stuff doesn't work. I'm comfortable with Linux and >>>> willing to work through this, and perhaps a small group could write up >>>> their experiences with this tier of hardware on the Drupal site. >>>> >>>> >>>> Notes: >>>> * Downloaded PenDrive and Ubuntu server ISO to make a bootable >>>> 4GB USB drive (this allowed persistent storage of the cfimg >>>> files under the /cdrom/doc folder). >>>> * Booted into USB Rescue and ran fdisk to delete two Windows >>>> partitions off of 512MB flash. >>>> * Ran the "dd if=cfimg-1.1.5 of=/dev/sdb" and wrote out 128MB >>>> image just fine. >>>> * Rebooted 5710 and it stuck at "USB Hub detected". Inserted >>>> above USB drive and it proceeded to a login prompt. It does >>>> not see the URI at this point. Tried the 1.1.4 and 1.1.5 >>>> version for VIA here. Tried the i686-1.1.5 version and it >>>> didn't even get this far. >>>> * No "This is your first time..." script ran like the Drupal >>>> page says. No eth0 came up either. >>>> * Found out Limey is actually "Archlinux" and found the commands >>>> to get on the internet. >>>> * Ran "ip link set dev eth0 up" and "ip addr add >>>> dev eth0" >>>> * Was able to ping my default gateway and then >>>> edit /etc/resolv.conf to add "nameserver 8.8.8.8". >>>> * How does one save changes back to the flash? The "svcfg" >>>> doesn't seem to exist... >>>> * Once on the network, I switched to /usr/src and ran "getsrc" >>>> which downloaded Asterisk. I tried to do a "configure" but >>>> that failed. Read the README and did a usbradio_install but >>>> that also failed. >>>> * This is a *really* stripped down version of Linux that uses >>>> 128MB of memory after installed. I am comfortable around Linux >>>> and CentOS and realize Limey isn't a beginner's O/S, one that >>>> I'm willing to work through. >>>> * I might buy an 8GB USB drive and use that with a regular ACID >>>> install to get more functionality as a try of Ubuntu Server >>>> didn't have enough disk for an install (it did find all the >>>> devices just fine under Rescue mode since it's a newer >>>> distro), or perhaps CentOS 6.3 and roll my own compile of >>>> Allstar. >>>> >>>> >>>> Comments/suggestions are welcome! >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was lucky enough to have 2 real live GM300 D04 radios (1-10watt versions with 439-450 coverage), I plugged in 446.000 with a pl on tx/rx and didn't have to touch much else. RX sensitivity was -122db on radio and -120 on the other. good enough for what I'm looking for - personal simplex nodes. if you get cables from Marshall make sure you follow his instructions and pin 8 on the back of the radio needs to be set to show both CARRIER *AND* PL. The Beagle.conf looks like the following [YOURNODENUMBER] carrierfrom=hwinvert ctcssfrom=no invertptt=0 duplex=0 rxondelay=0 That's it. if doing a simplex node, and using the portal to generate your starting setup, make sure you select all the right things for the node radio interface - beagle, then the other items below it, specifically the duplex= Hope this helps for the next person. Note, I tried JU551 on the beagle and in FLAT mode it just sounded tinny - probably would work great in a sideband contest, but with it in the default position, the audio across the network sounded much more *natural*, the way it should. NOTE, this may be an artifact of the Beagle, none of the normal usb setup values are support in chan_beagle.c, etc. And lastly thanks to everyone who offered their nodes to me. it was a huge help. With my main allstar server on the same network as my 2 new nodes, while I could get the big allstar server to see both separately but using separate ports, I couldn't connect one to the other. So having a node out in the networks. Solved the problem. Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w9drr.ham at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 04:11:11 2013 From: w9drr.ham at gmail.com (Don Russell) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:11:11 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] fighting echo within the soundcard. Message-ID: I am building a new node from scratch. atom pc, uri-x, 2 SM50's.. nothing fancy. I am getting a 1/2 second echo, like you have another radio on in the room. I did the normal tuneup. got these parameters. rxmixerset=125 txmixaset=400 txmixbset=0 rxvoiceadj=2.725307 rxctcssadj=4.019996 txctcssadj=300 rxsquelchadj=850 I tried with/without the rxboost. no change. I have battled this in the past and I just don't remember what the fix was. It's been a 2 years since I have had a node up. trying to get back in the swing of things again. I did bring up alsamixer, the card looks good, mic is not in playback mix. -- Don Russell, CBRE CBNT W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist http://www.socialengineer.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have tried inverted non inverted and ignore on the rtcm set up but not sure what I am missing. Any thoughts? Thanks Bradley From w9drr.ham at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 07:56:00 2013 From: w9drr.ham at gmail.com (Don Russell) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:56:00 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] fighting echo within the soundcard. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: found the fix, auto gain control on the cm108 is getting turned on. Question is why is it getting turned on? If I open alsamixer and turn it off, no echo. On restarting asterisk, it comes back on. I tried storing the current settings with alsactl store and rebooting. Same thing. At least I know what's causing it. I was going crazy thinking it was some wiring crosstalk or something. -- Don Russell, CBRE CBNT W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist http://www.socialengineer.us On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Don Russell wrote: > I am building a new node from scratch. > atom pc, uri-x, 2 SM50's.. nothing fancy. > > I am getting a 1/2 second echo, like > you have another radio on in the room. > > I did the normal tuneup. > got these parameters. > rxmixerset=125 > txmixaset=400 > txmixbset=0 > rxvoiceadj=2.725307 > rxctcssadj=4.019996 > txctcssadj=300 > rxsquelchadj=850 > > I tried with/without the rxboost. no change. > I have battled this in the past and I just > don't remember what the fix was. It's been a > 2 years since I have had a node up. trying to > get back in the swing of things again. > > I did bring up alsamixer, the card looks good, mic is not in playback mix. > > > -- > Don Russell, CBRE CBNT > W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist > http://www.socialengineer.us > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w9drr.ham at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 08:12:12 2013 From: w9drr.ham at gmail.com (Don Russell) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 02:12:12 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] phone_functions ignored Message-ID: dialing in to repeater via sip in phone mode.. getting in ok. called the repeater function with rpt,2090|P for standard phone mode. it is using *9 for ptt and # for drop no functions as defined in my functions file which is pointed to in phone_functions. [2090] functions=functions2090 phone_functions=functions2090 link_functions=functions2090 [functions2090] 99=cop,6 98=cop,24 ...blah blah blah this is what I want.... *9 yields PTT Any idea whats up with this one? -- Don Russell, CBRE CBNT W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist http://www.socialengineer.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob at af6d.com Mon Feb 25 09:41:41 2013 From: bob at af6d.com (Bob - AF6D) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:41:41 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Phone Patch Message-ID: I am working on building a 2 node voted simulcast system using two Motorola MSF 5000's. Part of the intended use is public safety. I have an actual Motorola phone patch for the MSF. Could it be accessed from either node including planned future nodes, or would an audio delay be an issue? I own the internet company that will be providing low latency premium bandwidth. My average ping to the data center is only 29ms and the MSF with the patch is on the network. // Bob - K6ECS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w0anm73 at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 15:33:37 2013 From: w0anm73 at gmail.com (Christopher Kovacs) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:33:37 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] KC6HUR/IRLP Weather scripts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Don, I have been busy with work and had my allstar node system die. I am in the process of bringing up the node with new hardware. There are quite a number of things to do regarding all the scripts. I have modified the scripts to include most of the functionality and cleaned up where the directories are pointed and also included a new log area for the weather script logs. I should get something together this week for the group here. I also want to put together some basic documents for the allstar port. Glad you got it working, you may want to change over to the new port when I get this completed. Sorry for the delay. Cheers, Chris, w0anm (Pirlp node 3106, Allstar node 29106) On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Don Russell wrote: > I got the newer version working. I spent some time seeing what the script > does... when you get down to it > they are quite clever! > > To make it play with allstar, I removed the IRLP checks, and set the > custom path variable to where > I wanted them to run /scripts/wx.. I fed it in the local info and it seems > to be happy. now to wait for some severe weather... > > > > > -- > Don Russell, CBRE CBNT > W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist > http://www.socialengineer.us > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Don Russell wrote: > >> Yeah, that's the ones I was working with. I see your current set, and >> they are a lot different. >> still doing things mostly the same way. >> >> Do you have a tarball of them modified to work with allstar? >> what I did was remove any the IRLP specific stuff from them. >> profile, basically anything that mentioned irlp, and hard set some >> of the paths instead of variables. made them run from /scripts/wx. >> I had cepstral spit out .ul files and then sent an asterisk command >> to play alerts, and then added in some dialplan options to play the rest. >> >> I can probably re-engineer them like I did before, but if you already did >> that's great. >> >> >> >> -- >> Don Russell, CBRE CBNT >> W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist >> http://www.socialengineer.us >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Christopher Kovacs wrote: >> >>> . >>> >>> It supports wx alerts, wx forecast reports, and current weather >>> underground reports. >>> >>> Let me know if this interest you. >>> >>> Look at >>> http://w0anm.com/blog >>> >>> For more information. I have to tar up or package the scripts for >>> Allstar. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Chris, w0anm (irlp node 3106, Allstar node 29061) >>> On Feb 20, 2013 7:59 PM, "Don Russell" wrote: >>> >>>> A couple years ago I hacked up randy's scripts to get >>>> the weather to work with allstar. >>>> >>>> I am redoing them now that the NWS went with the CAP >>>> protocol and zapped the RSS feed. >>>> >>>> before I completely re-invent the wheel has anyone else done this. >>>> Right now I am in grep sed hell . I am rewriting the scripts to >>>> go grab the weather the new way the NWS wants you to. its a hell of a >>>> mess right now. go get a url, part out a url go get that parse out text >>>> >>>> it's mostly working for one alert, but if there are more than one it >>>> gets really complex parsing that out. >>>> >>>> It does still get the current conditions and forecast still. sends it >>>> to cepstral for TTS and save them as ulaw for asterisk to play. >>>> >>>> If no one has done it can anyone chime in a help with the parsing. >>>> there is a perl module to do this but my perl-fu is weak! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Don Russell, CBRE CBNT >>>> W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist >>>> http://www.socialengineer.us >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Folks, I succesfully installed ACID on to a HP T5720 Thinclient and got it running on a CF card( Ive Done that before and it run Flawlessly for about 10 months until the forced migration that is). I correctly set the portforwarding correctly for both Echolink and Asterisk. I uncommented the Stats reporting but its not showing up in stats.allstarlink.org same thing goes with Echolink, its not registering. Just for info, I am using a URI and it detects it and can be configure fine... Checked iax.conf and rpt.conf and all fine and dandy there too. What else could it be. I honestly would like to start from scratch meaning to wipe my account in allstarlink (Configuration) so I requested a new node number but still not registering in the system. Can you guys help?.. BTW i turned the system off to prevent any unwanted interference with the server in case its going nuts in the background.... So help is needed and much appreciated. Node number I had in the past was 2519 and also have the new 29382 -- Gracias y 73's Hasta la Vista KI6LNX YN1OB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Tue Feb 26 01:52:20 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:52:20 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Getting to know App-Rpt all over again. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1361843540.1765.29.camel@benjamin-hp> Ok. First DO NOT INSTALL ACID TO ANY TYPE OF FLASH DRIVE!!!!! ACID is meant for a spinning hard drive installation. The constant read/write cycles will cause your flash drive to fail very quickly. Not necessarily the read cycles, but the constant "writing" to the flash drive will cause premature errors in flash drives. Remove ACiD, and either install ACID to a USB hard drive or get an IDE adapter kit. Limey Linux is loaded to ram, decompressed, and then runs completely from RAM. Any changes are saved to a special area that are saved for the next time you have to reboot. Unless you use "svcfg" to change changes, you can mess and tweak with all the settings and then when you screw it up, pull the power cord, and plug it back in to begin again. Second. The out-of-the-box configurations work. You may need to do some audio tweaking, but that is it. Nothing else. There should be zero need to mess with rpt.conf, or the others. If I were you, I would download both versions of Limey Linux and either use phydiskwrite (windoz) or "gunzip -c xx.img | of=/dev/hdX bs=16k" (linux) to burn the either the i686 or VIA kernel version of Limey to your DOM (disk on module) flash drive that came with the thin client. You can use a program such as DSL drop into shell, sftp into one of your servers, or copy the Limey Linux .img files to a thumb drive. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569 On Mon, 2013-02-25 at 15:14 -0800, Orland Lopez wrote: > > Folks, I succesfully installed ACID on to a HP T5720 Thinclient and > got it running on a CF card( Ive Done that before and it run > Flawlessly for about 10 months until the forced migration that is). I > correctly set the portforwarding correctly for both Echolink and > Asterisk. I uncommented the Stats reporting but its not showing up in > stats.allstarlink.org same thing goes with Echolink, its not > registering. Just for info, I am using a URI and it detects it and can > be configure fine... Checked iax.conf and rpt.conf and all fine and > dandy there too. What else could it be. I honestly would like to > start from scratch meaning to wipe my account in allstarlink > (Configuration) so I requested a new node number but still not > registering in the system. Can you guys help?.. BTW i turned the > system off to prevent any unwanted interference with the server in > case its going nuts in the background.... So help is needed and much > appreciated. > > Node number I had in the past was 2519 and also have the new 29382 > -- > Gracias y 73's > Hasta la Vista > KI6LNX > YN1OB > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From va3xy at yahoo.ca Tue Feb 26 15:02:07 2013 From: va3xy at yahoo.ca (Scott M) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:02:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Scott M Message-ID: <1361890927.69942.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://www.physio-blankenfelde.de/vsadcral/xxd8zh.0?w0cfbsechggagejaorj83noxw426i2/26/2013 4:02:06 PMScott M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at dyb.com Tue Feb 26 19:50:25 2013 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:50:25 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Getting to know App-Rpt all over again. In-Reply-To: <1361843540.1765.29.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <1361843540.1765.29.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <51D8E0B1-DE1A-4C44-9AAB-4A772A6E8A90@dyb.com> You can roll your own custom Limey as well. Not too much of a c.f., but I did it to add wifi. I also said I'd write a how-to, but time is my enemy... But just ordered one of those HP boxes and will probably at some point try to roll a Limey for it. I need to stop using the d945 boards all over. The USB is plain flaky with transmit audio. GeorgeC W2DB Sent from my iPad On Feb 25, 2013, at 7:52 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" wrote: > Ok. First DO NOT INSTALL ACID TO ANY TYPE OF FLASH DRIVE!!!!! > > ACID is meant for a spinning hard drive installation. The constant > read/write cycles will cause your flash drive to fail very quickly. > Not necessarily the read cycles, but the constant "writing" to the flash > drive will cause premature errors in flash drives. Remove ACiD, and > either install ACID to a USB hard drive or get an IDE adapter kit. Limey > Linux is loaded to ram, decompressed, and then runs completely from RAM. > Any changes are saved to a special area that are saved for the next time > you have to reboot. Unless you use "svcfg" to change changes, you can > mess and tweak with all the settings and then when you screw it up, pull > the power cord, and plug it back in to begin again. > > Second. The out-of-the-box configurations work. You may need to do some > audio tweaking, but that is it. Nothing else. There should be zero need > to mess with rpt.conf, or the others. > > If I were you, I would download both versions of Limey Linux and either > use phydiskwrite (windoz) or "gunzip -c xx.img | of=/dev/hdX > bs=16k" (linux) to burn the either the i686 or VIA kernel version of > Limey to your DOM (disk on module) flash drive that came with the thin > client. You can use a program such as DSL drop into shell, sftp into one > of your servers, or copy the Limey Linux .img files to a thumb drive. > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > allstar node 28569 > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-25 at 15:14 -0800, Orland Lopez wrote: >> >> Folks, I succesfully installed ACID on to a HP T5720 Thinclient and >> got it running on a CF card( Ive Done that before and it run >> Flawlessly for about 10 months until the forced migration that is). I >> correctly set the portforwarding correctly for both Echolink and >> Asterisk. I uncommented the Stats reporting but its not showing up in >> stats.allstarlink.org same thing goes with Echolink, its not >> registering. Just for info, I am using a URI and it detects it and can >> be configure fine... Checked iax.conf and rpt.conf and all fine and >> dandy there too. What else could it be. I honestly would like to >> start from scratch meaning to wipe my account in allstarlink >> (Configuration) so I requested a new node number but still not >> registering in the system. Can you guys help?.. BTW i turned the >> system off to prevent any unwanted interference with the server in >> case its going nuts in the background.... So help is needed and much >> appreciated. >> >> Node number I had in the past was 2519 and also have the new 29382 >> -- >> Gracias y 73's >> Hasta la Vista >> KI6LNX >> YN1OB >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Wed Feb 27 00:47:23 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:47:23 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Getting to know App-Rpt all over again. In-Reply-To: <51D8E0B1-DE1A-4C44-9AAB-4A772A6E8A90@dyb.com> References: <1361843540.1765.29.camel@benjamin-hp> <51D8E0B1-DE1A-4C44-9AAB-4A772A6E8A90@dyb.com> Message-ID: <1361926043.1765.54.camel@benjamin-hp> The Wi-Fi maybe what is making your audio flaky. Many of us use the cheap sound fobs with the CM108 and have zero problems. Remember that with Wi-Fi, you are competing for bandwidth and Wi-Fi, in it's present state, is simplex, or in the network world CSMA/CDA. If it was full duplex, then it would probably be better. You will have to ensure your Wi-Fi access point has Wireless QoS to ensure the packets from the Wi-Fi allstar node have priority. To add to the complication, you are also competing for bandwidth on your router, if you do not already have QoS setup. For those of us that have more than one device on the network that accesses the internet, the router by default is going to send FIFO, or First-in First-out... if the TX and RX buffer(s) aren't full. And when they are, the router, or cable modem will begin to drop packets from either direction. For QoS, there is some a small number of types. Theres HTB and HFSC and some others. HTB is has been ruled to be better and more robust. There are also different variations with HTB such as "weighted" and "forceful" for a lack of more intelligent words. M0N0wall uses the weighted version of HTB with totally sucks, in my opinion, as some of the packets mangled/manipulated to have more importance, are still sent out late or not at all. "Forceful" HTB doesn't care, it will do it hardest to send out the packets according to a present level of priority. And it's very effective, too. Look around on the good 'ol interwebs for HTB QoS, and you will learn a lot more than you want to. Bottom line: if you have access to an extra port on your router or switch, plug in the allstar node, avoid Wi-Fi. Take the time to run the ethernet cable. Wi-Fi is not all it's cracked up to be. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ On Tue, 2013-02-26 at 13:50 -0600, George Csahanin wrote: > You can roll your own custom Limey as well. Not too much of a c.f., but I did it to add wifi. > > I also said I'd write a how-to, but time is my enemy... > > But just ordered one of those HP boxes and will probably at some point try to roll a Limey for it. I need to stop using the d945 boards all over. The USB is plain flaky with transmit audio. > > GeorgeC > W2DB > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 25, 2013, at 7:52 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" wrote: > > > Ok. First DO NOT INSTALL ACID TO ANY TYPE OF FLASH DRIVE!!!!! > > > > ACID is meant for a spinning hard drive installation. The constant > > read/write cycles will cause your flash drive to fail very quickly. > > Not necessarily the read cycles, but the constant "writing" to the flash > > drive will cause premature errors in flash drives. Remove ACiD, and > > either install ACID to a USB hard drive or get an IDE adapter kit. Limey > > Linux is loaded to ram, decompressed, and then runs completely from RAM. > > Any changes are saved to a special area that are saved for the next time > > you have to reboot. Unless you use "svcfg" to change changes, you can > > mess and tweak with all the settings and then when you screw it up, pull > > the power cord, and plug it back in to begin again. > > > > Second. The out-of-the-box configurations work. You may need to do some > > audio tweaking, but that is it. Nothing else. There should be zero need > > to mess with rpt.conf, or the others. > > > > If I were you, I would download both versions of Limey Linux and either > > use phydiskwrite (windoz) or "gunzip -c xx.img | of=/dev/hdX > > bs=16k" (linux) to burn the either the i686 or VIA kernel version of > > Limey to your DOM (disk on module) flash drive that came with the thin > > client. You can use a program such as DSL drop into shell, sftp into one > > of your servers, or copy the Limey Linux .img files to a thumb drive. > > > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > > allstar node 28569 > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-25 at 15:14 -0800, Orland Lopez wrote: > >> > >> Folks, I succesfully installed ACID on to a HP T5720 Thinclient and > >> got it running on a CF card( Ive Done that before and it run > >> Flawlessly for about 10 months until the forced migration that is). I > >> correctly set the portforwarding correctly for both Echolink and > >> Asterisk. I uncommented the Stats reporting but its not showing up in > >> stats.allstarlink.org same thing goes with Echolink, its not > >> registering. Just for info, I am using a URI and it detects it and can > >> be configure fine... Checked iax.conf and rpt.conf and all fine and > >> dandy there too. What else could it be. I honestly would like to > >> start from scratch meaning to wipe my account in allstarlink > >> (Configuration) so I requested a new node number but still not > >> registering in the system. Can you guys help?.. BTW i turned the > >> system off to prevent any unwanted interference with the server in > >> case its going nuts in the background.... So help is needed and much > >> appreciated. > >> > >> Node number I had in the past was 2519 and also have the new 29382 > >> -- > >> Gracias y 73's > >> Hasta la Vista > >> KI6LNX > >> YN1OB > >> _______________________________________________ > >> App_rpt-users mailing list > >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > > From Benjamin at kb9lfz.com Wed Feb 27 01:03:39 2013 From: Benjamin at kb9lfz.com (Benjamin L. Naber) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:03:39 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] email reflector In-Reply-To: <1361926043.1765.54.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <1361843540.1765.29.camel@benjamin-hp> <51D8E0B1-DE1A-4C44-9AAB-4A772A6E8A90@dyb.com> <1361926043.1765.54.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <1361927019.1765.59.camel@benjamin-hp> Moderators, please adjust the reflector settings to adjust the 'from' or 'reply-to' the email address of the reflector. Myself, and I'm sure others, getting double and triple emails when a user has to hit 'reply-all' to send a message to the relfector. Otherwise, if 'reply' is just smashed, then the email discussion will be taken away from the reflector, therefore excluding others from chiming in with knowledge and insight about a subject of the topic. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ From n8ohu at yahoo.com Wed Feb 27 01:16:44 2013 From: n8ohu at yahoo.com (Matthew Pitts) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:16:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] email reflector In-Reply-To: <1361927019.1765.59.camel@benjamin-hp> References: <1361843540.1765.29.camel@benjamin-hp> <51D8E0B1-DE1A-4C44-9AAB-4A772A6E8A90@dyb.com> <1361926043.1765.54.camel@benjamin-hp> <1361927019.1765.59.camel@benjamin-hp> Message-ID: <1361927804.19432.YahooMailNeo@web141005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Benjamin, Been through this discussion on another list I'm on and the decision there was to leave it as it was. As much as it might seem an inconvenience to have to edit the To:? line manually, it's actually how things are supposed to work. Other sites that do it the other way are going against established Internet Standards for the convenience of the users. Matthew Pitts N8OHU >________________________________ > From: Benjamin L. Naber >To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:03 PM >Subject: [App_rpt-users] email reflector > >Moderators, > >please adjust the reflector settings to adjust the 'from' or 'reply-to' >the email address of the reflector. > >Myself, and I'm sure others, getting double and triple emails when a >user has to hit 'reply-all' to send a message to the relfector. >Otherwise, if 'reply' is just smashed, then the email discussion will be >taken away from the reflector, therefore excluding others from chiming >in with knowledge and insight about a subject of the topic. > >~Benjamin, KB9LFZ > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From chris.andrist at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 15:57:47 2013 From: chris.andrist at gmail.com (Chris Andrist) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:57:47 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] problem downloading config to server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <953754142068210438@unknownmsgid> >From your server run nodesetup.sh That will download the settings again. -- Chris Andrist On Feb 27, 2013, at 8:14 AM, davek wrote: > in the allstar web gui when i push the config to my server i get the > error "Server Configuration Update Sorry, your server does not have > any downloadable nodes (Register Only)." > 1 node is simplex 1 node remote base. No nodes are register only. how to fix? > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From davidkierz at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 16:48:41 2013 From: davidkierz at gmail.com (davek) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:48:41 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] problem downloading config to server In-Reply-To: <953754142068210438@unknownmsgid> References: <953754142068210438@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: yes but i would like to push a config via web, why does it not work? On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Chris Andrist wrote: > From your server run nodesetup.sh > > That will download the settings again. > > -- > Chris Andrist > > On Feb 27, 2013, at 8:14 AM, davek wrote: > >> in the allstar web gui when i push the config to my server i get the >> error "Server Configuration Update Sorry, your server does not have >> any downloadable nodes (Register Only)." >> 1 node is simplex 1 node remote base. No nodes are register only. how to fix? >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From petem001 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 27 17:56:09 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:56:09 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] passing a commnad to the kernel Message-ID: I need to pass the noapic command to my acid install, on a real centos 5.x I can choose F3 (kernel) and type noapic, but I dont have this option with acid. Anyone can help -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From f6hqz-m at hamwlan.net Wed Feb 27 19:32:55 2013 From: f6hqz-m at hamwlan.net (F6HQZ) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:32:55 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] passing a commnad to the kernel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <512E5F67.4050909@hamwlan.net> Hi Pierre, You need to edit a file : vi /boot/grub/grub.conf and add "acpi=off noapic quiet" at the end of the line including the kernel instructions. Then, you must save the modified file by entering the VI instruction : ESC wq ENTER 73, F6HQZ Francois # ------------------------------ # Example of grub.conf file : # ------------------------------ # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root sda1 # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/md2 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/AsteriskNOW-splash.xpm.gz title AsteriskNOW Release beta_1 (2.6.22.9-0.1.smp.gcc3.4.x86.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-0.1.smp.gcc3.4.x86.i686 ro root=/dev/md2 acpi=off noapic quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.22.9-0.1.smp.gcc3.4.x86.i686.img From jamie.stapleton at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 21:45:33 2013 From: jamie.stapleton at gmail.com (Jamie A. Stapleton) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:45:33 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] new user question In-Reply-To: <512E5F67.4050909@hamwlan.net> References: <512E5F67.4050909@hamwlan.net> Message-ID: <512E7E7D.8040107@gmail.com> What is the most common hardware that everyone is using to connect Asterisk to radios? From petem001 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 27 21:57:19 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:57:19 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] new user question In-Reply-To: <512E7E7D.8040107@gmail.com> References: <512E5F67.4050909@hamwlan.net> <512E7E7D.8040107@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dmk URI or modified usb fob based on cm108 or cm109 ship. Envoy? de mon iPad Le 27 Feb 2013 ? 16:45, "Jamie A. Stapleton" a ?crit : > What is the most common hardware that everyone is using to connect Asterisk to radios? > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Wed Feb 27 22:02:15 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:02:15 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] new user question In-Reply-To: <512E7E7D.8040107@gmail.com> References: <512E5F67.4050909@hamwlan.net> <512E7E7D.8040107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3D65A41B-FABA-4049-BAC4-48829C1CD189@bdboyle.com> dmk engineering URI if you don't feel like (or don't have the skills to roll your own). if you go that route..pay the extra for the memory chip. running 7 of them on 2 boxes. idiot proof. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings... On Feb 27, 2013, at 16:45, "Jamie A. Stapleton" wrote: > What is the most common hardware that everyone is using to connect Asterisk to radios? > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From donh at sigma.net Thu Feb 28 00:38:18 2013 From: donh at sigma.net (Don Hackler) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:38:18 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] new user question In-Reply-To: <3D65A41B-FABA-4049-BAC4-48829C1CD189@bdboyle.com> References: <512E5F67.4050909@hamwlan.net> <512E7E7D.8040107@gmail.com> <3D65A41B-FABA-4049-BAC4-48829C1CD189@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: <512EA6FA.7080508@sigma.net> I also highly recommend the DMK URI box. It just doesn't get any easier than that. The only other important option is the Micro-Node RTCM module which is very handy if you can't locate the radio and URI near the Asterisk box. (You will need some internet connectivity where the radio and RTCM box is located, but then the asterisk box can be anywhere.) http://micro-node.com/thin-m1.html On 2/27/2013 2:02 PM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > dmk engineering URI if you don't feel like (or don't have the skills to roll your own). > > if you go that route..pay the extra for the memory chip. > > running 7 of them on 2 boxes. idiot proof. > > -- > Bryan > Sent from my iPhone 5...small > keyboard, big fingers...please > forgive misspellings... > > > > On Feb 27, 2013, at 16:45, "Jamie A. Stapleton" wrote: > >> What is the most common hardware that everyone is using to connect Asterisk to radios? >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From yokshs at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 17:36:39 2013 From: yokshs at gmail.com (K&R Yoksh) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:36:39 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 48, Issue 52 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you're migrating from IRLP, just use the IRLP board plus a $12 USB Fob. If starting from scratch, I guess most people use the DMK URI. 73, Kyle K0KN From: "Jamie A. 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