[App_rpt-users] Fun with Limey and HP T5710 so far

Sun Feb 24 01:51:20 UTC 2013

Thanks to everyone who replied, I think I was too caught up in getting 
these to run with a "thin" Linux install.

I am going to order a few adapters and new 8GB CF drives. I did learn 
that the CF drives work in parallel versus USB sticks that work in 
serial and therefore are slower.

Tony

On 2/23/2013 6:04 PM, pete M wrote:
> Got acid running on my t5630. But i had to change the flash drive for 
> a small 6 gig drive. A 4 gig one would do..
>
> Just replace the flash drive by a 44 pin ide to cf card adaptor and 
> buy a smal cf format hard disk something like this model number 
> ST650211CF 
> <http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/Seagate-1-5GB-ST1-Micro-Hard-Drive-CF-Type-II-ST650211CF-Compact-Flash-interf-/300861446655> as 
> the HD
>
> The adator look like this : 
> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/CF-Compact-Flash-to-2-5-IDE-44-Pin-Male-Adapter-Card-Type-I-II-III-MicroDrive-/170856977729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c7de9541&_uhb=1#ht_2893wt_1130
>
>
>
> Envoyé de mon iPad
>
> Le 23 Feb 2013 à 18:14, "Tony KT9AC" <kt9ac at ameritech.net 
> <mailto:kt9ac at ameritech.net>> a écrit :
>
>> Could someone please post a working combination of Linux distro and 
>> version of Allstar/Asterisk that is working for them on a Thin 
>> Client? I currently have the most current version of ArchLinux 
>> running nicely but can't get past the Allstar compile (tried both 
>> ACID and Limey 1.1.5 tarballs).
>>
>> I guess I don't care what the distro is, I just have three Thin 
>> Clients than I need to get ready to deploy.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/2013 7:57 PM, Benjamin L. Naber wrote:
>>> Limey Linux will only work on a few mini-ITX boards. I was lucky that I
>>> got mine running on a Neoware CA-22. However, the VIA version did not
>>> work, so I used the i686 version. Booted up just fine.
>>>
>>> I have noticed I've had plenty trouble with the HP thin clients with
>>> other Linux distros for embedded machines. The older Neowares seem to
>>> run much better, and faster. I'd like to provide an answer for that, but
>>> I honestly don't have a clue why.
>>>
>>> DO NOT TRY TO RUN ACID ON A THUMB DRIVE!!!
>>>
>>> Limey linux, when booted, loads a compresses image to RAM, then
>>> decompresses it. Limey Linux runs from RAM. ACiD does not. If you try
>>> it, not only will ACiD be slow to boot on a thumb drive, the thumb drive
>>> will die because of all the read/write cycles that are meant for a
>>> spinning hard drive. An allstar user/node owner in Pennsylvania reported
>>> the slow booting.
>>>
>>> When dd'ing to flash drive, for most cases you want to specify bs=16k at
>>> the end of the line. You may even try "gunzip -c <.img> | of=/dev/sdx
>>> bs=16k". That is the line I used on DamnSmallLinux console to burn the
>>> Limey Linux image file to the neoware's flash drive. There is zero need
>>> to run cfdisk or any of that mess before hand.
>>>
>>> If I remember right, svcfg is located in the /usr/bin, or the /usr/sbin
>>> directory. If it is in one of those two and you cannot do a svcfg from
>>> the prompt, chances are a path got screwed up somewhere. At the prompt,
>>> you might be able to do /usr/sbin/svcfg and that should work.
>>>
>>> If you want to try running ACiD on thin client, my best advice is to get
>>> a USB hard drive, and run it from there. You may have to play around
>>> with the formating on the USB hard drive for it to work correctly. Some
>>> BIOSs do not like anything other than VFAT or NTFS for booting purposes.
>>> You may be able to make a double partition and and have VFAT for
>>> booting, and ext3 for anything else. Have fun with grub or lilo to make
>>> sure it boots from the correct partition.
>>>
>>> If you really want to get crazy with it, use of of your Linux servers as
>>> a PXE boot server, and have the thin client load the Limey Linux from
>>> there. Not sure how well save would work though.....
>>>
>>> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
>>> allstar node 28569
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 08:51 -0800, Tony KT9AC wrote:
>>>> Here are some notes from my first attempt to get Limey up and running
>>>> on a T5710 Thin Client (1.2Ghz Transmeta Efferon, 512MB flash chip
>>>> board (not drive) and 512MB ram - PM705AA model).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not as easy as the Drupal page would lead one to believe...Limey
>>>> is actually ArchLinux and not CentOS like the ACID install is, so a
>>>> lot of expected stuff doesn't work. I'm comfortable with Linux and
>>>> willing to work through this, and perhaps a small group could write up
>>>> their experiences with this tier of hardware on the Drupal site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Notes:
>>>>       * Downloaded PenDrive and Ubuntu server ISO to make a bootable
>>>>         4GB USB drive (this allowed persistent storage of the cfimg
>>>>         files under the /cdrom/doc folder).
>>>>       * Booted into USB Rescue and ran fdisk to delete two Windows
>>>>         partitions off of 512MB flash.
>>>>       * Ran the "dd if=cfimg-1.1.5 of=/dev/sdb" and wrote out 128MB
>>>>         image just fine.
>>>>       * Rebooted 5710 and it stuck at "USB Hub detected". Inserted
>>>>         above USB drive and it proceeded to a login prompt. It does
>>>>         not see the URI at this point. Tried the 1.1.4 and 1.1.5
>>>>         version for VIA here. Tried the i686-1.1.5 version and it
>>>>         didn't even get this far.
>>>>       * No "This is your first time..." script ran like the Drupal
>>>>         page says. No eth0 came up either.
>>>>       * Found out Limey is actually "Archlinux" and found the commands
>>>>         to get on the internet.
>>>>       * Ran "ip link set <ip> dev eth0 up" and "ip addr add
>>>>         <ip/netmask/> dev eth0"
>>>>       * Was able to ping my default gateway and then
>>>>         edit /etc/resolv.conf to add "nameserver 8.8.8.8".
>>>>       * How does one save changes back to the flash? The "svcfg"
>>>>         doesn't seem to exist...
>>>>       * Once on the network, I switched to /usr/src and ran "getsrc"
>>>>         which downloaded Asterisk. I tried to do a "configure" but
>>>>         that failed. Read the README and did a usbradio_install but
>>>>         that also failed.
>>>>       * This is a *really* stripped down version of Linux that uses
>>>>         128MB of memory after installed. I am comfortable around Linux
>>>>         and CentOS and realize Limey isn't a beginner's O/S, one that
>>>>         I'm willing to work through.
>>>>       * I might buy an 8GB USB drive and use that with a regular ACID
>>>>         install to get more functionality as a try of Ubuntu Server
>>>>         didn't have enough disk for an install (it did find all the
>>>>         devices just fine under Rescue mode since it's a newer
>>>>         distro), or perhaps CentOS 6.3 and roll my own compile of
>>>>         Allstar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Comments/suggestions are welcome!
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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