[App_rpt-users] Echolink Connectivity Issue

Kirk Just Kirk wb6egr at gmail.com
Thu Mar 21 20:23:00 UTC 2013


Wait a minute......
I do fully understand WHY Dave Cameron wanted us to all yank IRLP out of
our systems, it interfered with his SELLING you a piece of shit PCB for
IRLP to the tune of $170/with a FREE node number thrown in for a bonus.
(thats my opinion).Thats OK by me....about 85% of the IRLP installations
sound like shit anyways.
But Echolink should be HAPPY (YAYYYY) that the Allstar crowd is having
access to BOTH modes......
Smells like a rumor to me.Everyone else (other than IRLP) has YOU the owner
install/set up/operateYOUR hardware.
It's only IRLP that makes you wait till THEIR "Install team" can install
your software for you.
Echolink probably wouldnt care if you ran it on a Proctor-Silex toaster if
you can do it....(Jim can do it)


Kirk

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Hmmm..
>
> I have never actually seen this policy before... somewhat disturbing...
>
> However, practical experience shows that Echolink seems to be perfectly
> aware of our interconnections
> and seems to be perfectly content with what we are doing. So, I guess its
> okay.... ???
>
> Jim WB6NIL
>
> > From: petem001 at hotmail.com
> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:59:34 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Echolink Connectivity Issue
> >
> > Well, thats bad.
> >
> > But if echolink remove my node from there system It's their Loss,not
> mine.
> >
> > Some would day that I am arrogant. nope, I just dont care for poeple
> that
> > wont think more then that..
> >
> > the more system on their or other networks that can interact together,
> the
> > best for every one.
> >
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > From: Pawlowski, Adam
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:48 PM
> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Echolink Connectivity Issue
> >
> > I sent this a while back but it was bounced for the wrong mail address.
> I
> > don't see it ever made it to the list.
> >
> > This was re: someone being advised that their app_rpt node is not
> permitted
> > on the Echolink network.
> >
> > > Echolink is a nice service
> > > that allows hams around the world to keep up pc to pc. And nobody asks
> > > for any money, nice. But this is very, very out of the norm for them.
> > >
> >
> > I looked this up recently when I started to talk about IRLP and how they
> > don't want other traffic on their network. Then I looked at their Access
> > Policy:
> >
> > 4. Stations operating in Sysop mode may interconnect EchoLink only with
> > equipment operating on Amateur frequencies. EchoLink does not permit use
> of
> > the system with other services such as GMRS, FRS, or MARS. For security
> > reasons, it is also not permitted to interconnect EchoLink with other
> VoIP
> > systems that support direct access from a computer.
> >
> > 10. The "addressing servers" are designed to be accessed by EchoLink
> > software only. For the sake of system security and stability, any other
> > access requires the permission of the server administrator. As a matter
> of
> > security, in no event should the IP addresses (or Internet hostnames) of
> > logged-in stations be displayed to anyone who is not a validated,
> logged-in
> > user.
> >
> > 11. Although every effort will be made to apply these policies
> universally
> > and fairly, the EchoLink Support staff reserves the right to withdraw a
> > station's access privileges at any time, without notice. EchoLink is a
> > privately owned and operated system that has no connection with, and is
> not
> > governed by, any radio licensing authority.
> >
> > So, I interpret that as that you are not supposed to connect to with
> > asterisk at all anyways, if you read that verbosely, via app_rpt or
> > otherwise. I don't have the history to know if they've made any
> statement
> > about what app_rpt is doing, but it seems like it's not permitted via
> their
> > policy only they are less vocal about it than the IRLP folks.
> >
> >
> >
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