From david.osborn at manx.net Sun Sep 1 16:58:51 2013 From: david.osborn at manx.net (David Osborn) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:58:51 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Cylon Suppression In-Reply-To: <522217F2.1090404@gmail.com> References: <005801cea641$ca22dad0$5e689070$@manx.net> <522217F2.1090404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004c01cea734$89046e30$9b0d4a90$@manx.net> "#1) MAJOR SECURITY RED FLAG!!! You give regular users access to the OPERATING SYSTEM at the COMMAND LINE LEVEL?" What? I never said that, and I wouldn't do it. Command line access to the OS? Do you think I'm that stupid? How would you do that with a DTMF command (ilink,4 = "Remote Command Mode")? As I understand it, ilink,4 simply relays DTMF commands from one node to another. I fail to see how that's a security risk. For info, SSH (command line) access to my nodes has password access disabled and a pre-shared key is required. Nobody gets a copy of that but me, and that means that nobody gets "access to the OPERATING SYSTEM at the COMMAND LINE LEVEL" but me. I don't understand why that got you hyperventilating. Perhaps you misunderstood. What I'm trying to achieve is design a macro, or macro/script combination that accepts a DTMF command from a user on one of my local nodes and then performs the required steps to make an outgoing link from my hub to another Echolink node. As it happens, I think I've achieved that since I posted. I'm still fine-tuning, but the user simply enters a short-form DTMF sequence and the system takes over and sets-up the link. Another short sequence takes the link down again. All without Cylon activity, and all without anyone ever getting command-line access. I am fortunate to live in an environment where paranoia is largely unjustified. In any case, the available commands on my nodes are the usual basics and practically no-one ever tries them, so they remain as they came "out of the box" - well, mostly. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at dyb.com Sun Sep 1 17:09:48 2013 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:09:48 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar on different distros References: <522269A6.4000708@ameritech.net><46AA6F2B-655D-41C1-9EE2-1B3A11E155AB@me.com> <52227262.4030801@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <8E924113B4C1450187B3055687CD9198@lintv.com> It's all out there. Get the Limey sources and look into the config files and Makefiles, eventually it clicks. I have built my own Limey that I needed wifi net on and it was a huge learning experience, but it was also fun in a kinda sick way. GeorgeC W2DB 2360 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony KT9AC" To: "Tim Sawyer" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar on different distros > Limey only runs on certain motherboards from what is available. Perhaps if > it was opened up - some documentation on how to build it for example. I've > considered it but can't grasp the cross-compiling methods yet. > > > On 8/31/2013 5:16 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> My friend in Las Vegas tells me Limey Linux runs on these. He's sending >> me one to play with. >> -- >> Tim >> :wq >> >> On Aug 31, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Tony KT9AC wrote: >> >>> OK, I'm going to ask if there ongoing efforts to package or provide >>> install schemes for different hardware? >>> >>> I have had a node running for years on an old P4 just fine. For a >>> low-power, fanless box I've gravitated toward the HP Thin clients, which >>> really aren't that bad. 1.0Ghz AMD Geode, 512MB ram and an upgrade to a >>> 44-pin 8GB Compact Flash. I have a need to build and remotely deploy >>> three of these and would like a common install to manage. I do the >>> standard noatime and tmpfs changes to keep the flash quiet and happy. >>> >>> ACID won't install on Thin Clients; XIPAR will install but takes about >>> 3-4 hours and doesn't do MDC1200 or record traffic that I need (acid >>> archives). I can install Debian 7.1 in about 20 minutes and it >>> absolutely flies. Asterisk 1.8 and the current ACID SVN all compile >>> under Debian but I can't get it to work with the URI interface. Dmesg >>> and lspci show the URI but Allstar using the "radio tune" shows the card >>> as "-1". I have a whole weekend in this latest build attempt. >>> >>> It would seem that out in the real world you can install Asterisk on >>> anything, and that is the spirit of open-source. What would be required >>> to get app_rpt and some of the chan stuff to run on "commodity" installs >>> (apt-get install asterisk for example)? >>> >>> A lot of this is over my head, but I'm willing to try. I realize that >>> some builds were customized for a point in time, so that begs the >>> question about modern day attempts (Debian 7.1 runs the 3.2.0-4-686-pae >>> kernel). Thanks Kirk for your script, but I found out late last night it >>> doesn't use the same hardware that I do. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Tony (27129/27418/27460) >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > > > From harvard5362 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 1 20:05:31 2013 From: harvard5362 at yahoo.com (C B) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 13:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] linktolink syntax in rpt.conf & passing of tuchtones Message-ID: <1378065931.55087.YahooMailNeo@web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi ? I have read different examples of the?"linktolink" statement in??rpt.conf ? there are 2 different examples one with a space either side of the "=" sign and one with no spaces. ? 1) linktolinl = yes 2) linktolink=yes ? Which is the correct syntax. ? Also when connecting a allstar node to another controllers port, will touch tones frome?a station?conning into a allstar nose?pass from the next?allstar node to the controller? ? Thank you in advance for your help. ? Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harvard5362 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 1 22:11:43 2013 From: harvard5362 at yahoo.com (C B) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 15:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] linktolink syntax in rpt.conf & passing of tuchtones In-Reply-To: References: <1378065931.55087.YahooMailNeo@web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1378073503.58034.YahooMailNeo@web124501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thank you ? Chris ________________________________ From: "cwsaums at aol.com" To: C B Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] linktolink syntax in rpt.conf & passing of tuchtones Here is the configuration example for value pairs in configuration stanzas This shows the correct answer is - No spaces http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/46 Craig? AC2FE Sent from my iPad On Sep 1, 2013, at 4:05 PM, C B wrote: Hi I have read different examples of the?"linktolink" statement in??rpt.conf there are 2 different examples one with a space either side of the "=" sign and one with no spaces. 1) linktolinl = yes 2) linktolink=yes Which is the correct syntax. Also when connecting a allstar node to another controllers port, will touch tones frome?a station?conning into a allstar nose?pass from the next?allstar node to the controller? Thank you in advance for your help. Chris _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w7ry at centurytel.net Mon Sep 2 00:15:03 2013 From: w7ry at centurytel.net (Jim W7RY) Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:15:03 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Paul, Your Email box is full Message-ID: <5223D887.5030405@centurytel.net> Hey Paul... AH6FM Trying to send you a message... Your email box is full... So the system says... Thanks and Aloha! 73 Jim W7RY From k6kya at hokeynet.net Mon Sep 2 22:01:32 2013 From: k6kya at hokeynet.net (Steve Passmore) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 15:01:32 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] RXONDELAY not working? In-Reply-To: References: <000d01cea41a$0f3f6180$2dbe2480$@rr.com> <1377824269.70113.YahooMailNeo@web163603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <000c01cea526$ccf56e60$66e04b20$@rr.com> <1377837368.26421.YahooMailNeo@web163605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jim, thanks for fixing that. I've had a node sitting in the corner for about 6 months because I needed that function. Steve On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote: > > Well, it was indeed accurate that: > > 1) The "rxondelay" parameter in chan_simpleusb did not work or have any > effect. > 2) The software *DID* indeed fully and correctly support the "rxondelay" > feature, with > one very specific exception: The parameter was *NEVER* read from the > config file!! > > All I have to say on my part is: "DUH!!" > > The new version (one line change) which fixes this will appear publicly in > SVN at 7:15 PDT this > evening. > > Jim WB6NIL > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:36:08 -0700 > From: cypresstower at yahoo.com > To: k5tra at austin.rr.com; george at dyb.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RXONDELAY not working? > > Rgr Tom, "I am using usbradio.conf". Should have realized you were > referring to. I have a mobile node with limey linux and simpleusb.conf. I > owe you one so I'll test it and see what I come up with. > Thanks > > *From:* tom > *To:* 'Johnny Keeker' ; 'George Csahanin' < > george at dyb.com>; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:15 PM > *Subject:* RE: [App_rpt-users] RXONDELAY not working? > > Johnny, I think you must be using usbradio instead of simpleusb (as we > are). Both rxondelay and rxsquelchdelay are parameters in chan_usbradio.c. > however, rxondelay is in chan_simpleusb.c while rxsquelchdelay is not. The > problem is rxondelay doesn?t seem to work with simpleusb. > Tom / K5TRA > > *From:* Johnny Keeker [mailto:cypresstower at yahoo.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:58 PM > *To:* George Csahanin; tom; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] RXONDELAY not working? > > Conducting an experiment with rxondelay, I set my node at 1000ms and > connected to another node on a different server that I'm able to monitor > its transmitter. I applied a signal to the receiver with rxondelay. The > transmitter on the connected node keys up and as I count to 10, No audio > was present so I lowered the rxondelay by half, 500ms. Conducting the same > test, I found that around the 6 count audio came out the transmitter. > Lowering the rxondelay to 100ms, and got a count of 2 before hearing > audio. I determined that rxondelay is working. In my case it stops the > ping pong effect. I find a 15ms delay is ideal for a gm300 receiver. It > would interesting if someone out there could conduct this same test.... I > also found using rxsquelchdelay=XXms is another useful setting to eliminate > any squelch tail noise, but it must be used with dsp or flat audio on ACID. > *From:* George Csahanin > *To:* tom ; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:22 PM > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] RXONDELAY not working? > > I'll chime in, I have it on a simplex node with simpleusb and it > doesn't work. Made it 10,000 ms and no effect > > GeorgeC > W2DB 2360 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* tom > *To:* app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:11 PM > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] RXONDELAY not working? > > The chan_simpleusb.c code clearly *has* the rxondelay parameter. > However, I tested it on a couple of half-duplex nodes and didn?t see any > effect. 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URL: From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Tue Sep 3 10:01:53 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 06:01:53 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] execute CLI command via macro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: digging through the list archives, yes it's painful. would yield a treasure trove on this topic. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings... On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:14, Paul Schlacter wrote: > Hello Group, > Is there a conventional way to execute CLI commands via a custom macro? > > In other words: > > Could app_rpt take a received DTMF command to execute a macro that would execute a predefined CLI command? > > 73 all! > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From ars.w5omr at gmail.com Tue Sep 3 13:16:33 2013 From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff Edmonson) Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:16:33 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] execute CLI command via macro? Message-ID: You mean like root@[local]> asterisk -rx "rpt fun [node number] *81" and... You want to do that from a macro? No. However, if you want to connect to different nodes, that's entirely what the [macro] stanza in rpt.conf is all about. Search the archives here or on ohnosec.org or even Timmy's drupal page. Google is your friend. "Bryan D. Boyle" wrote: >digging through the list archives, yes it's painful. would yield a treasure trove on this topic. > >-- >Bryan >Sent from my iPhone 5...small >keyboard, big fingers...please >forgive misspellings... > > > >On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:14, Paul Schlacter wrote: > >> Hello Group, >> Is there a conventional way to execute CLI commands via a custom macro? >> >> In other words: >> >> Could app_rpt take a received DTMF command to execute a macro that would execute a predefined CLI command? >> >> 73 all! >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Tue Sep 3 14:13:41 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 10:13:41 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] execute CLI command via macro? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: uh, you can execute a shell script from a DTMF command by specifying the dtmf in the functions stanza for the node in question: example: 89=cmd,/path/to/script.sh where script.sh is something like below located in the /path/to/ directory with the proper chmod values set. #!/bin/bash /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx "rpt fun node# *somecommand#" simple, and fully documented. actual application is left as an exercise to the reader. automating it via a schedule? use the OS crontab. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings... On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:16, Geoff Edmonson wrote: > You mean like > root@[local]> asterisk -rx "rpt fun [node number] *81" > and... You want to do that from a macro? No. > However, if you want to connect to different nodes, that's entirely what the [macro] stanza in rpt.conf is all about. > > Search the archives here or on ohnosec.org or even Timmy's drupal page. > Google is your friend. > > > "Bryan D. Boyle" wrote: > >> digging through the list archives, yes it's painful. would yield a treasure trove on this topic. >> >> -- >> Bryan >> Sent from my iPhone 5...small >> keyboard, big fingers...please >> forgive misspellings... >> >> >> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:14, Paul Schlacter wrote: >> >>> Hello Group, >>> Is there a conventional way to execute CLI commands via a custom macro? >>> >>> In other words: >>> >>> Could app_rpt take a received DTMF command to execute a macro that would execute a predefined CLI command? >>> >>> 73 all! >>> >>> Paul >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From hammin75 at gmail.com Wed Sep 4 03:05:03 2013 From: hammin75 at gmail.com (Bradley Haney) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 22:05:03 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH Message-ID: Hello all. Having an issue with ACID trying to use my own SIP.. It appears when i try to enter in the correct info for the peer and registry statement on the sip.conf and do a astres.sh it bombs out where for what ever reason for the next 10 or so when i log in and do a asterisk -r and do help there are no SIP option on the command line.. then after some time it some how starts up. I thought something was wrong with my system so i put the install disc in again and re downloaded all the software and started over. Everything works fine until i try to add a peer into the SIP.conf I tried the settings for asterisk 1.2, 1.4 and even 1.8 VOIP povider i use is callcentric. Any thoughts? I have been using callcentric for about 2 years on my regular PBX and no issues. ON a side note does anyone have a good inbound extension.conf part that woudl include incoming from my own SIP to be able to have the asterisk answer and let phone control work on the repeater. I would easily pay the 5.00 month for the service, but our members would like to have a local number for our repeater. Thanks in advance. Bradley kc9gqr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com Wed Sep 4 06:45:00 2013 From: rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com (Chuck Henderson) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 01:45:00 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please let me know what you learn on this, as I want to do the same thing here so that we can have a local number for each of the repeaters we have. On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Bradley Haney wrote: > Hello all. Having an issue with ACID trying to use my own SIP.. It > appears when i try to enter in the correct info for the peer and registry > statement on the sip.conf and do a astres.sh it bombs out where for what > ever reason for the next 10 or so when i log in and do a asterisk -r and > do help there are no SIP option on the command line.. then after some time > it some how starts up. I thought something was wrong with my system so i > put the install disc in again and re downloaded all the software and > started over. Everything works fine until i try to add a peer into the > SIP.conf I tried the settings for asterisk 1.2, 1.4 and even 1.8 VOIP > povider i use is callcentric. Any thoughts? I have been using callcentric > for about 2 years on my regular PBX and no issues. ON a side note does > anyone have a good inbound extension.conf part that woudl include incoming > from my own SIP to be able to have the asterisk answer and let phone > control work on the repeater. I would easily pay the 5.00 month for the > service, but our members would like to have a local number for our repeater. > > Thanks in advance. > Bradley kc9gqr > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris.andrist at gmail.com Wed Sep 4 17:19:36 2013 From: chris.andrist at gmail.com (Chris Andrist) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:19:36 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-7696893741618382365@unknownmsgid> Bradley, I actually wrote something up and put it online. You can see it here: http://www.allstarnode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=108 Regards, Chris Andrist, KC7WSU On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org" < app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org> wrote: 2. Re: USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH (Chuck Henderson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 22:05:03 -0500 From: Bradley Haney To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello all. Having an issue with ACID trying to use my own SIP.. It appears when i try to enter in the correct info for the peer and registry statement on the sip.conf and do a astres.sh it bombs out where for what ever reason for the next 10 or so when i log in and do a asterisk -r and do help there are no SIP option on the command line.. then after some time it some how starts up. I thought something was wrong with my system so i put the install disc in again and re downloaded all the software and started over. Everything works fine until i try to add a peer into the SIP.conf I tried the settings for asterisk 1.2, 1.4 and even 1.8 VOIP povider i use is callcentric. Any thoughts? I have been using callcentric for about 2 years on my regular PBX and no issues. ON a side note does anyone have a good inbound extension.conf part that woudl include incoming from my own SIP to be able to have the asterisk answer and let phone control work on the repeater. I would easily pay the 5.00 month for the service, but our members would like to have a local number for our repeater. Thanks in advance. Bradley kc9gqr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torben at klimt-online.com Wed Sep 4 20:51:17 2013 From: torben at klimt-online.com (torben at klimt-online.com) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 22:51:17 +0200 Subject: [App_rpt-users] USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH In-Reply-To: <-7696893741618382365@unknownmsgid> References: <-7696893741618382365@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Hi all, can somebody tell me what i must write into the extension.conf that every call comming from the sipgate account "go" or answerd by the repeater ? if it is possible that I can only route spezial numbers to the repeater it will be great tnx and greetings tom dh6mbt Von: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Andrist Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. September 2013 19:20 An: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Betreff: Re: [App_rpt-users] USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH Bradley, I actually wrote something up and put it online. You can see it here: http://www.allstarnode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=108 Regards, Chris Andrist, KC7WSU On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org" > wrote: 2. Re: USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH (Chuck Henderson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 22:05:03 -0500 From: Bradley Haney > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] USING own SIP for AUTO PATCH Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello all. Having an issue with ACID trying to use my own SIP.. It appears when i try to enter in the correct info for the peer and registry statement on the sip.conf and do a astres.sh it bombs out where for what ever reason for the next 10 or so when i log in and do a asterisk -r and do help there are no SIP option on the command line.. then after some time it some how starts up. I thought something was wrong with my system so i put the install disc in again and re downloaded all the software and started over. Everything works fine until i try to add a peer into the SIP.conf I tried the settings for asterisk 1.2, 1.4 and even 1.8 VOIP povider i use is callcentric. Any thoughts? I have been using callcentric for about 2 years on my regular PBX and no issues. ON a side note does anyone have a good inbound extension.conf part that woudl include incoming from my own SIP to be able to have the asterisk answer and let phone control work on the repeater. I would easily pay the 5.00 month for the service, but our members would like to have a local number for our repeater. Thanks in advance. Bradley kc9gqr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ve3elb at yahoo.com Thu Sep 5 03:10:15 2013 From: ve3elb at yahoo.com (Vince P) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 23:10:15 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time Message-ID: Hello all. Can anyone guide me on to how to setting up the time on asterisk. The time was set but for some reason a few weeks ago I noticed that its off by 8 hours. Thank you all for your help. 73, Vince VE3ELB From cypresstower at yahoo.com Thu Sep 5 04:18:26 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1378354706.75967.YahooMailNeo@web163602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Set up Timezone Carfully Copy each line below to your linux box as root.? Before begining, check /usr/share/zoneinfo/ for your time zone. Enter your time zone, a?space, followed by the word localtime The example below is if you lived in Toronto Canada. ? [root at node /]#cd /etc [root at node /]#cp localtime localtime.orig [root at node /]#ln ?-sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern localtime ? Check your results [root at node /]#date ? Synchronize time from the web [root at node /]#ntpdate pool.ntp.org ? Set Server to Auto Sync The Time from the web [root at node /]#ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org [root at node /]#hwclock --systohc ? Restart ntpd service [root at node /]#service ntpd start ? Enable service at startup [root at node /]#chkconfig ntpd on ________________________________ From: Vince P To: APP RPT Forums Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time Hello all. Can anyone guide me on to how to setting up the time on asterisk. The time was set but for some reason a few weeks ago I noticed that its off by 8 hours. Thank you all for your help. 73, Vince VE3ELB _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at dyb.com Thu Sep 5 05:55:39 2013 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 00:55:39 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time References: <1378354706.75967.YahooMailNeo@web163602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9354E64275F54A2A880370A511CEA2CB@lintv.com> Except Limey. The timezone info isn't there. I just live with it. I was using a timesserver and if I set the system time with a fudge factor to be right as soon as the box sync-ed to network time it was off again. But in ACID, yup, you have it right GeorgeC W2DB 2360 ----- Original Message ----- From: Johnny Keeker To: Vince P ; APP RPT Forums Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time Set up Timezone Carfully Copy each line below to your linux box as root. Before begining, check /usr/share/zoneinfo/ for your time zone. Enter your time zone, a space, followed by the word localtime The example below is if you lived in Toronto Canada. [root at node /]#cd /etc [root at node /]#cp localtime localtime.orig [root at node /]#ln ?-sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern localtime Check your results [root at node /]#date Synchronize time from the web [root at node /]#ntpdate pool.ntp.org Set Server to Auto Sync The Time from the web [root at node /]#ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org [root at node /]#hwclock --systohc Restart ntpd service [root at node /]#service ntpd start Enable service at startup [root at node /]#chkconfig ntpd on From: Vince P To: APP RPT Forums Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time Hello all. Can anyone guide me on to how to setting up the time on asterisk. The time was set but for some reason a few weeks ago I noticed that its off by 8 hours. Thank you all for your help. 73, Vince VE3ELB _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com Thu Sep 5 06:03:06 2013 From: rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com (Chuck Henderson) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:03:06 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time In-Reply-To: <9354E64275F54A2A880370A511CEA2CB@lintv.com> References: <1378354706.75967.YahooMailNeo@web163602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9354E64275F54A2A880370A511CEA2CB@lintv.com> Message-ID: On anything but the fastest multicore systems , I have found that when using usbradio and running ntpd, it will cause anomalies in the repeater sound. My solution is to not run ntpd, but to just have a cron job that runs ntpdate once an hour. That way there is only one glitch in the sound each hour. Your mileage may vary. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:55 AM, George Csahanin wrote: > Except Limey. The timezone info isn't there. I just live with it. I was > using a timesserver and if I set the system time with a fudge factor to be > right as soon as the box sync-ed to network time it was off again. > > But in ACID, yup, you have it right > > GeorgeC > W2DB > 2360 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Johnny Keeker > To: Vince P ; APP RPT Forums > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:18 PM > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time > > > > Set up Timezone Carfully Copy each line below to your linux box as root. > Before begining, check /usr/share/zoneinfo/ for your time zone. > Enter your time zone, a space, followed by the word localtime > The example below is if you lived in Toronto Canada. > > [root at node /]#cd /etc > [root at node /]#cp localtime localtime.orig > [root at node /]#ln ?-sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/**Eastern localtime > > Check your results > [root at node /]#date > > Synchronize time from the web > [root at node /]#ntpdate pool.ntp.org > > Set Server to Auto Sync The Time from the web > [root at node /]#ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org > [root at node /]#hwclock --systohc > > Restart ntpd service > [root at node /]#service ntpd start > > Enable service at startup > [root at node /]#chkconfig ntpd on > > > From: Vince P > To: APP RPT Forums > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:10 PM > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time > > > Hello all. Can anyone guide me on to how to setting up the time on > asterisk. The time was set but for some reason a few weeks ago I noticed > that its off by 8 hours. Thank you all for your help. > > 73, Vince VE3ELB > ______________________________**_________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/**mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > ______________________________**_________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/**mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at dyb.com Thu Sep 5 06:09:35 2013 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:09:35 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time References: <1378354706.75967.YahooMailNeo@web163602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9354E64275F54A2A880370A511CEA2CB@lintv.com> Message-ID: NOW THAT's interesting. That might have been my usbradio proble,. Converted to simpleusb and use the summed COS+CG decode in the GE MVP I have it on now, so not an issue...but...I need to experiment with that. GeorgeC ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Henderson To: George Csahanin Cc: Johnny Keeker ; Vince P ; APP RPT Forums Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time On anything but the fastest multicore systems , I have found that when using usbradio and running ntpd, it will cause anomalies in the repeater sound. My solution is to not run ntpd, but to just have a cron job that runs ntpdate once an hour. That way there is only one glitch in the sound each hour. Your mileage may vary. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:55 AM, George Csahanin wrote: Except Limey. The timezone info isn't there. I just live with it. I was using a timesserver and if I set the system time with a fudge factor to be right as soon as the box sync-ed to network time it was off again. But in ACID, yup, you have it right GeorgeC W2DB 2360 ----- Original Message ----- From: Johnny Keeker To: Vince P ; APP RPT Forums Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time Set up Timezone Carfully Copy each line below to your linux box as root. Before begining, check /usr/share/zoneinfo/ for your time zone. Enter your time zone, a space, followed by the word localtime The example below is if you lived in Toronto Canada. [root at node /]#cd /etc [root at node /]#cp localtime localtime.orig [root at node /]#ln ?-sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern localtime Check your results [root at node /]#date Synchronize time from the web [root at node /]#ntpdate pool.ntp.org Set Server to Auto Sync The Time from the web [root at node /]#ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org [root at node /]#hwclock --systohc Restart ntpd service [root at node /]#service ntpd start Enable service at startup [root at node /]#chkconfig ntpd on From: Vince P To: APP RPT Forums Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time Hello all. Can anyone guide me on to how to setting up the time on asterisk. The time was set but for some reason a few weeks ago I noticed that its off by 8 hours. Thank you all for your help. 73, Vince VE3ELB _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken-robinson at o2.co.uk Thu Sep 5 08:32:05 2013 From: ken-robinson at o2.co.uk (Ken Robinson) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:32:05 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagle board Black Message-ID: <2e4001ceaa12$677ea790$367bf6b0$@o2.co.uk> Hi All, Can anyone tell me if the Beagle board Black will act as an Allstar node, reading about it I think some of the input outputs have been taken out of the new board 73's Ken G0lce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbs099 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 5 12:18:58 2013 From: wbs099 at yahoo.com (Bill South) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 05:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk Message-ID: <1378383538.16999.YahooMailBasic@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. Thoughts? Bill From tim.sawyer at me.com Thu Sep 5 14:17:02 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:17:02 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk In-Reply-To: <1378383538.16999.YahooMailBasic@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1378383538.16999.YahooMailBasic@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've been using Vitelity for a few years and am happy with them. They charge $1.49 per month per DID and 1.2 cents per minute. -- Tim :wq On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:18 AM, Bill South wrote: > I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. Thoughts? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu Sep 5 16:13:41 2013 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden VE3GIF) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:13:41 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk Message-ID: <61soqbviophkjxciig46chmc.1378397621879@email.android.com> It works great until the hacks find the machine. They port scan non stop. Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. There is no way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. Bill South wrote: > I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. Thoughts? > >Bill > > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From dshaw at ke6upi.com Thu Sep 5 16:58:56 2013 From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:58:56 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk In-Reply-To: <61soqbviophkjxciig46chmc.1378397621879@email.android.com> References: <61soqbviophkjxciig46chmc.1378397621879@email.android.com> Message-ID: I'm sorry Dwaine what are you talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your talking about. I have both a public Asterisk server and a local Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop unwanted hackers on your server. As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space if you want. Google "Asterisk Security" http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security David On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF < DwaineGarden at rogers.com> wrote: > It works great until the hacks find the machine. They port scan non stop. > Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. There is no > way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. > > Bill South wrote: > > > I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP > service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound > calling. 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There is no > way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. > > Bill South wrote: > >> I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP >> service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound >> calling. I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of >> providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are >> zillions of VoIP providers out there. This is going to be used very >> sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no >> bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. I can easily >> get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. >> Thoughts? >> >>Bill >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>App_rpt-users mailing list >>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu Sep 5 18:09:59 2013 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden VE3GIF) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:09:59 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk Message-ID: I changed the port. They just kept scanning every IP port for the IP address. I had to ask Rogers for another dhcp IP address. The whole time they never got into the box. LOL.... Steve Agee wrote: >I change my SIP port from the default 5060 to 15060 and have not had any >issues since. It seems that (most of the time) they only try the default. > >N5ZUA > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dwaine Garden VE3GIF" >To: "Bill South" >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:13 AM >Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > > >> It works great until the hacks find the machine. They port scan non stop. >> Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. There is no >> way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. >> >> Bill South wrote: >> >>> I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP >>> service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound >>> calling. I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of >>> providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are >>> zillions of VoIP providers out there. This is going to be used very >>> sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no >>> bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. I can easily >>> get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. >>> Thoughts? >>> >>>Bill >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>App_rpt-users mailing list >>>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu Sep 5 18:07:58 2013 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden VE3GIF) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:07:58 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk Message-ID: The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able to connect to be able to call 911. I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine they will charge me. Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. If there is a phone install, the criminals better have access to dial 911 unrestrictive. The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. No questions asked. No login or nothing. The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let them know about my experience. David KE6UPI wrote: >I'm sorry Dwaine what are you talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your talking about. > >I have both a public Asterisk server and a local Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop unwanted hackers on your server. > > >As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space if you want. > >Google "Asterisk Security" > > >http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security > > >David > > > > >On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: > >It works great until the hacks find the machine. ?They port scan non stop. ?Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. ?There is no way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. > > >Bill South wrote: > >> ? ? I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. ?I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. ?This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. ?I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. ?Thoughts? >> >>Bill >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>App_rpt-users mailing list >>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:07:58 -0400 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com To: dshaw at ke6upi.com CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able to connect to be able to call 911. I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine they will charge me. Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. If there is a phone install, the criminals better have access to dial 911 unrestrictive. The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. No questions asked. No login or nothing. The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let them know about my experience. David KE6UPI wrote: I'm sorry Dwaine what are you talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your talking about. I have both a public Asterisk server and a local Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop unwanted hackers on your server. As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space if you want. Google "Asterisk Security" http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security David On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: It works great until the hacks find the machine. They port scan non stop. Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. There is no way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. Bill South wrote: > I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. Thoughts? > >Bill > > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu Sep 5 18:58:42 2013 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden VE3GIF) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 14:58:42 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk Message-ID: It was an interesting experience. Has anyone else experienced the same problem and had the police involved? I did mention that I would change the Dial string. The police told me that a person has to be able to dial 911 and get emergency services. I gave up and just walked over to the all-star computer and hit the power button. Sadly, it has been off ever since. If I had changed the 911 Dial string before the incident. The police would of not gotten involved. Never known about the situation. Just let everyone know. The two police officers were very good about it. They told me that its happening a lot and 911 is getting a little upset about it. I told them they should go after the person responsible. They told me that's you. The line is in your name. Anyway, just wanted to throw out there my experience. Dwaine Jim Duuuude wrote: > > >Okay (and yes, that is STUPID and most likely WRONG, but most police depts are >just completely ignorant of telecom issues). So, fine... GIVE them access to 911. >Let them dial it. But, sadly, on YOUR phone network, the dialing string is just a LITTLE >bit longer (like about 30 digits in front of the 911)... get it? > >Jim > > >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:07:58 -0400 >From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com >To: dshaw at ke6upi.com >CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > >The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able to connect to be able to call 911. > >I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine they will charge me. > >Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. If there is a phone install, the criminals better have access to dial 911 unrestrictive. > >The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. No questions asked. No login or nothing. > >The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. > >It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let them know about my experience. > >David KE6UPI wrote: > >I'm sorry Dwaine what are you talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your talking about. > >I have both a public Asterisk server and a local Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop unwanted hackers on your server. > > >As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space if you want. > >Google "Asterisk Security" > > >http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security > > >David > > > > >On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: > >It works great until the hacks find the machine. ?They port scan non stop. ?Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. ?There is no way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. > > >Bill South wrote: > >> ? ? I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. ?I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. ?This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. ?I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. ?Thoughts? >> >>Bill >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>App_rpt-users mailing list >>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > >_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From telesistant at hotmail.com Thu Sep 5 19:24:28 2013 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:24:28 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Double BRAVO-SIERRA!! If that were true, a LOT of large business owners (some of which may even operate large businesses :-) ) would be in jail, if they HAPPEN to have a phone system or even worse, service from the "phone company", that requires dialing 9 to get an "outside line". I bet even the police dept has to dial 9 to dial 911. And as far as that goes, put the line in your pet tarantula's name, and make it clear to them that the spider is more then willing to 'serve its time' for such a terrible transgressions!! :-) Wholesale outbound telecom services, such as ones provided by most SIP providers, are *NOT* "in your name", *NOR* do they even technically have a "phone number" or a "service address". Just because you pay the bill for them does not, in any manner, construe that you are the end user of the service. Jim Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:58:42 -0400 Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com To: telesistant at hotmail.com CC: dshaw at ke6upi.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org It was an interesting experience. Has anyone else experienced the same problem and had the police involved? I did mention that I would change the Dial string. The police told me that a person has to be able to dial 911 and get emergency services. I gave up and just walked over to the all-star computer and hit the power button. Sadly, it has been off ever since. If I had changed the 911 Dial string before the incident. The police would of not gotten involved. Never known about the situation. Just let everyone know. The two police officers were very good about it. They told me that its happening a lot and 911 is getting a little upset about it. I told them they should go after the person responsible. They told me that's you. The line is in your name. Anyway, just wanted to throw out there my experience. Dwaine Jim Duuuude wrote: Okay (and yes, that is STUPID and most likely WRONG, but most police depts are just completely ignorant of telecom issues). So, fine... GIVE them access to 911. Let them dial it. But, sadly, on YOUR phone network, the dialing string is just a LITTLE bit longer (like about 30 digits in front of the 911)... get it? Jim Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:07:58 -0400 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com To: dshaw at ke6upi.com CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able to connect to be able to call 911. I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine they will charge me. Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. If there is a phone install, the criminals better have access to dial 911 unrestrictive. The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. No questions asked. No login or nothing. The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let them know about my experience. David KE6UPI wrote: I'm sorry Dwaine what are you talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your talking about. I have both a public Asterisk server and a local Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop unwanted hackers on your server. As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space if you want. Google "Asterisk Security" http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security David On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: It works great until the hacks find the machine. They port scan non stop. Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. There is no way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. Bill South wrote: > I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. Thoughts? > >Bill > > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu Sep 5 19:40:32 2013 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden VE3GIF) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:40:32 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk Message-ID: Canadian customers have to provide an address and name for 911 purposes for a DID. Bell and Rogers were mandated with their VoIP services. I gave them the logs of the server where the IP address were listed. Rogers was good and moved me to a new IP address and filtered out the source. I had an iptables script that would ban IP address that attempted a certain number of connections during a certain amount of time. Then ban that IP address. It worked great. It stopped the hackers script dead cold. Until they ran the 911 script. They were ruthless in their attacks. My all-star node was the best fun I have had with Ham radio. I'll fire it back up again. Just waiting for the dust to settle without a DID setup. Dwaine Jim Duuuude wrote: > > >Double BRAVO-SIERRA!! > >If that were true, a LOT of large business owners (some of which may even operate >large businesses :-) ) would be in jail, if they HAPPEN to have a phone system or even >worse, service from the "phone company", that requires dialing 9 to get an "outside line". > >I bet even the police dept has to dial 9 to dial 911. > >And as far as that goes, put the line in your pet tarantula's name, and make it clear to them >that the spider is more then willing to 'serve its time' for such a terrible transgressions!! :-) > >Wholesale outbound telecom services, such as ones provided by most SIP providers, are *NOT* >"in your name", *NOR* do they even technically have a "phone number" or a "service address". >Just because you pay the bill for them does not, in any manner, construe that you are the end user >of the service. > >Jim > > > > >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:58:42 -0400 >Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk >From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com >To: telesistant at hotmail.com >CC: dshaw at ke6upi.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > >It was an interesting experience. Has anyone else experienced the same problem and had the police involved? >I did mention that I would change the >Dial string. The police told me that a person has to be able to dial 911 and get emergency services. > >I gave up and just walked over to the all-star computer and hit the power button. Sadly, it has been off ever since. > >If I had changed the 911 Dial string before the incident. The police would of not gotten involved. Never known about the situation. > >Just let everyone know. The two police officers were very good about it. They told me that its happening a lot and 911 is getting a little upset about it. > >I told them they should go after the person responsible. They told me that's you. The line is in your name. > >Anyway, just wanted to throw out there my experience. > >Dwaine > >Jim Duuuude wrote: > >Okay (and yes, that is STUPID and most likely WRONG, but most police depts are >just completely ignorant of telecom issues). So, fine... GIVE them access to 911. >Let them dial it. But, sadly, on YOUR phone network, the dialing string is just a LITTLE >bit longer (like about 30 digits in front of the 911)... get it? > >Jim > > >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:07:58 -0400 >From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com >To: dshaw at ke6upi.com >CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > >The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able to connect to be able to call 911. > >I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine they will charge me. > >Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. If there is a phone install, the criminals better have access to dial 911 unrestrictive. > >The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. No questions asked. No login or nothing. > >The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. > >It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let them know about my experience. > >David KE6UPI wrote: > >I'm sorry Dwaine what are you talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your talking about. > >I have both a public Asterisk server and a local Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop unwanted hackers on your server. > > >As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space if you want. > >Google "Asterisk Security" > > >http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security > > >David > > > > >On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: > >It works great until the hacks find the machine. ?They port scan non stop. ?Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. ?There is no way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. > > >Bill South wrote: > >> ? ? I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. ?I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. ?This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. ?I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. ?Thoughts? >> >>Bill >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>App_rpt-users mailing list >>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > >_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbs099 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 5 20:39:11 2013 From: wbs099 at yahoo.com (Bill South) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1378413551.80356.YahooMailBasic@web161405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> While this thread is not part of what I originally asked about (SIP provider recommendations) I'll add that 911 access is mandated in some LATAs, but seems to be some debate if it must be 911 or if 9-911 is OK, or other variations. I worked in the telecom business for over 25 years in various parts of the USA and different localities would respond differently to the question about 911. When E911 first came out, where a database lookup was done by the local police emeregency agency systems answering 911 calls showing names and addresses, some jurisdictions mandated that database had to show the exact location the call was originating from, not a billing address of some companies headquarters. Big problem for some large companies where a single billing address is used for all telco circuits. For residences I'm not sure anyone has put much thought into laws regarding 911 dialing and any restrictions thereof; businesses on the other hand, where 100's maybe thousands of workers are in the same building and floor and locating a 911 caller could be pretty tough for local emnergency responders, there are, or were anyway, laws in some locations mandating 911 unrestricted. The thought has always been though that in an emergency people have the expectation, whether at home or work, that they can dial 911 and get help; not sure where the laws stands now on that across the USA. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/5/13, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk To: "Jim Duuuude" Cc: "app_rpt mailing list" Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 7:40 PM Canadian customers have to provide an address and name for 911 purposes for a DID. Bell and Rogers were mandated with their VoIP services. I gave them the logs of the server where the IP address were listed. Rogers was good and moved me to a new IP address and filtered out the source. I had an iptables script that would ban IP address that attempted a certain number of connections during a certain amount of time. Then ban that IP address. It worked great. It stopped the hackers script dead cold. Until they ran the 911 script. They were ruthless in their attacks. My all-star node was the best fun I have had with Ham radio. I'll fire it back up again. Just waiting for the dust to settle without a DID setup. Dwaine Jim Duuuude wrote: Double BRAVO-SIERRA!! If that were true, a LOT of large business owners (some of which may even operate large businesses :-) ) would be in jail, if they HAPPEN to have a phone system or even worse, service from the "phone company", that requires dialing 9 to get an "outside line". I bet even the police dept has to dial 9 to dial 911. And as far as that goes, put the line in your pet tarantula's name, and make it clear to them that the spider is more then willing to 'serve its time' for such a terrible transgressions!! :-) Wholesale outbound telecom services, such as ones provided by most SIP providers, are *NOT* "in your name", *NOR* do they even technically have a "phone number" or a "service address". Just because you pay the bill for them does not, in any manner, construe that you are the end user of the service. Jim Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:58:42 -0400 Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com To: telesistant at hotmail.com CC: dshaw at ke6upi.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org It was an interesting experience. Has anyone else experienced the same problem and had the police involved? I did mention that I would change the Dial string. The police told me that a person has to be able to dial 911 and get emergency services. I gave up and just walked over to the all-star computer and hit the power button. Sadly, it has been off ever since. If I had changed the 911 Dial string before the incident. The police would of not gotten involved. Never known about the situation. Just let everyone know. The two police officers were very good about it. They told me that its happening a lot and 911 is getting a little upset about it. I told them they should go after the person responsible. They told me that's you. The line is in your name. Anyway, just wanted to throw out there my experience. Dwaine Jim Duuuude wrote: Okay (and yes, that is STUPID and most likely WRONG, but most police depts are just completely ignorant of telecom issues). So, fine... GIVE them access to 911. Let them dial it. But, sadly, on YOUR phone network, the dialing string is just a LITTLE bit longer (like about 30 digits in front of the 911)... get it? Jim Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:07:58 -0400 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com To: dshaw at ke6upi.com CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able to connect to be able to call 911. I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine they will charge me. Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. If there is a phone install, the criminals better have access to dial 911 unrestrictive. The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. No questions asked. No login or nothing. The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let them know about my experience. David KE6UPI wrote: I'm sorry Dwaine what are you talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your talking about. I have both a public Asterisk server and a local Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop unwanted hackers on your server. As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space if you want. Google "Asterisk Security" http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security David On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: It works great until the hacks find the machine. ?They port scan non stop. ?Its especially fun when their scripts dial 911 constantly. ?There is no way to turn off dialing 911 for SIP. Bill South wrote: > ? ? I'm thinking of adding some type of SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. ?I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out there. ?This is going to be used very sparingly so least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. ?I can easily get by with a single number, but may want to add additional DIDs later. ?Thoughts? > >Bill > > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu Sep 5 22:29:18 2013 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden VE3GIF) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 18:29:18 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk Message-ID: <7phw1oohlkk6yllownxqc1wa.1378419993049@email.android.com> I walked over to the telco team where I work and mentioned our conversation to them. They told me that the law states you have to clearly label the telephone device if you change the dialup number from 911. (That's why we have all our VOIP phones labeled with the different number) I mentioned the AllStar node. They said E911 is a complete mess. You can't label an outside connection to a VOIP server. You would not want to either if you could. Most companies are just ignoring the requirement to have an open dial plan for E911 from the Internet. If you find yourself in a legal situation. The telco guys told me your at fault. You get fined. E911 should really be traceable back to the person that placed the call. They can do that with certain, so the law goes after the person which e911 is registered under. The guys in the telco team just laughed when I talked to them about the AllStar node. Welcome to VOIP and the E911 mess. Dwaine Bill South wrote: > While this thread is not part of what I originally asked about (SIP provider recommendations) I'll add that 911 access is mandated in some LATAs, but seems to be some debate if it must be 911 or if 9-911 is OK, or other variations. I worked in the telecom business for over 25 years in various parts of the USA and different localities would respond differently to the question about 911. When E911 first came out, where a database lookup was done by the local police emeregency agency systems answering 911 calls showing names and addresses, some jurisdictions mandated that database had to show the exact location the call was originating from, not a billing address of some companies headquarters. Big problem for some large companies where a single billing address is used for all telco circuits. For residences I'm not sure anyone has put much thought into laws regarding 911 dialing and any restrictions thereof; businesses on the other hand, where > 100's maybe thousands of workers are in the same building and floor and locating a 911 caller could be pretty tough for local emnergency responders, there are, or were anyway, laws in some locations mandating 911 unrestricted. The thought has always been though that in an emergency people have the expectation, whether at home or work, that they can dial 911 and get help; not sure where the laws stands now on that across the USA. > >-------------------------------------------- >On Thu, 9/5/13, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > To: "Jim Duuuude" > Cc: "app_rpt mailing list" > Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 7:40 PM > > Canadian customers have to provide an > address and name for 911 purposes for a DID. Bell and > Rogers were mandated with their VoIP services. > > I gave them the logs of the server where the IP address were > listed. Rogers was good and moved me to a new IP address > and filtered out the source. > > I had an iptables script that would ban IP address that > attempted a certain number of connections during a certain > amount of time. Then ban that IP address. It worked great. > It stopped the hackers script dead cold. Until they ran > the 911 script. They were ruthless in their attacks. > > My all-star node was the best fun I have had with Ham radio. > I'll fire it back up again. Just waiting for the dust > to settle without a DID setup. > > Dwaine > > Jim Duuuude wrote: > > Double BRAVO-SIERRA!! > > If that were true, a LOT of large business owners (some of > which may even operate > large businesses :-) ) would be in jail, if they HAPPEN to > have a phone system or even > worse, service from the "phone company", that > requires dialing 9 to get an "outside line". > > I bet even the police dept has to dial 9 to dial 911. > > And as far as that goes, put the line in your pet > tarantula's name, and make it clear to them > that the spider is more then willing to 'serve its > time' for such a terrible transgressions!! :-) > > Wholesale outbound telecom services, such as ones provided > by most SIP providers, are *NOT* > "in your name", *NOR* do they even technically > have a "phone number" or a "service > address". > Just because you pay the bill for them does not, in any > manner, construe that you are the end user > of the service. > > Jim > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Sep > 2013 14:58:42 -0400 > Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com > To: telesistant at hotmail.com > CC: dshaw at ke6upi.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > It was an interesting experience. Has anyone else > experienced the same problem and had the police involved? > I did mention that I would change the > Dial string. The police told me that a person has to be > able to dial 911 and get emergency services. > > I gave up and just walked over to the all-star computer and > hit the power button. Sadly, it has been off ever since. > > If I had changed the 911 Dial string before the incident. > The police would of not gotten involved. Never known about > the situation. > > Just let everyone know. The two police officers were very > good about it. They told me that its happening a lot and > 911 is getting a little upset about it. > > I told them they should go after the person responsible. > They told me that's you. The line is in your name. > > Anyway, just wanted to throw out there my experience. > > Dwaine > > Jim Duuuude wrote: > > Okay (and yes, that is STUPID and most likely > WRONG, but most police depts are > just completely ignorant of telecom issues). So, fine... > GIVE them access to 911. > Let them dial it. But, sadly, on YOUR phone network, the > dialing string is just a LITTLE > bit longer (like about 30 digits in front of the 911)... get > it? > > Jim > > > Date: Thu, 5 Sep > 2013 14:07:58 -0400 > From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com > To: dshaw at ke6upi.com > CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > > The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone > without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto > police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any > outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you > have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able > to connect to be able to call 911. > > I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine > they will charge me. > > Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. > If there is a phone install, the criminals better have > access to dial 911 unrestrictive. > > The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for > months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial > 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. > No questions asked. No login or nothing. > > The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are > setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. > > It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new > everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let > them know about my experience. > > David KE6UPI wrote: > > I'm sorry Dwaine what are you > talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your > talking about. > > I have both a public Asterisk server and a local > Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a > call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and > fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop > unwanted hackers on your server. > > > > As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space > if you want. > > Google "Asterisk Security" > > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security > > > > David > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 > at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF > wrote: > > It > works great until the hacks find the machine. ?They > port scan non stop. ?Its especially fun when their > scripts dial 911 constantly. ?There is no way to turn > off dialing 911 for SIP. > > > > > Bill South > wrote: > > > > > ? ? I'm thinking of adding some type of > SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID > Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. > ?I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector > with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for > recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out > there. ?This is going to be used very sparingly so > least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no > bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. > ?I can easily get by with a single number, but may want > to add additional DIDs later. ?Thoughts? > > > > > > >Bill > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >App_rpt-users mailing list > > >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From DwaineGarden at rogers.com Thu Sep 5 22:32:24 2013 From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com (Dwaine Garden VE3GIF) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 18:32:24 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk Message-ID: Bill, sorry for hijacking your thread. Didn't mean it.... Dwine Bill South wrote: > While this thread is not part of what I originally asked about (SIP provider recommendations) I'll add that 911 access is mandated in some LATAs, but seems to be some debate if it must be 911 or if 9-911 is OK, or other variations. I worked in the telecom business for over 25 years in various parts of the USA and different localities would respond differently to the question about 911. When E911 first came out, where a database lookup was done by the local police emeregency agency systems answering 911 calls showing names and addresses, some jurisdictions mandated that database had to show the exact location the call was originating from, not a billing address of some companies headquarters. Big problem for some large companies where a single billing address is used for all telco circuits. For residences I'm not sure anyone has put much thought into laws regarding 911 dialing and any restrictions thereof; businesses on the other hand, where > 100's maybe thousands of workers are in the same building and floor and locating a 911 caller could be pretty tough for local emnergency responders, there are, or were anyway, laws in some locations mandating 911 unrestricted. The thought has always been though that in an emergency people have the expectation, whether at home or work, that they can dial 911 and get help; not sure where the laws stands now on that across the USA. > >-------------------------------------------- >On Thu, 9/5/13, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > To: "Jim Duuuude" > Cc: "app_rpt mailing list" > Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 7:40 PM > > Canadian customers have to provide an > address and name for 911 purposes for a DID. Bell and > Rogers were mandated with their VoIP services. > > I gave them the logs of the server where the IP address were > listed. Rogers was good and moved me to a new IP address > and filtered out the source. > > I had an iptables script that would ban IP address that > attempted a certain number of connections during a certain > amount of time. Then ban that IP address. It worked great. > It stopped the hackers script dead cold. Until they ran > the 911 script. They were ruthless in their attacks. > > My all-star node was the best fun I have had with Ham radio. > I'll fire it back up again. Just waiting for the dust > to settle without a DID setup. > > Dwaine > > Jim Duuuude wrote: > > Double BRAVO-SIERRA!! > > If that were true, a LOT of large business owners (some of > which may even operate > large businesses :-) ) would be in jail, if they HAPPEN to > have a phone system or even > worse, service from the "phone company", that > requires dialing 9 to get an "outside line". > > I bet even the police dept has to dial 9 to dial 911. > > And as far as that goes, put the line in your pet > tarantula's name, and make it clear to them > that the spider is more then willing to 'serve its > time' for such a terrible transgressions!! :-) > > Wholesale outbound telecom services, such as ones provided > by most SIP providers, are *NOT* > "in your name", *NOR* do they even technically > have a "phone number" or a "service > address". > Just because you pay the bill for them does not, in any > manner, construe that you are the end user > of the service. > > Jim > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Sep > 2013 14:58:42 -0400 > Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com > To: telesistant at hotmail.com > CC: dshaw at ke6upi.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > It was an interesting experience. Has anyone else > experienced the same problem and had the police involved? > I did mention that I would change the > Dial string. The police told me that a person has to be > able to dial 911 and get emergency services. > > I gave up and just walked over to the all-star computer and > hit the power button. Sadly, it has been off ever since. > > If I had changed the 911 Dial string before the incident. > The police would of not gotten involved. Never known about > the situation. > > Just let everyone know. The two police officers were very > good about it. They told me that its happening a lot and > 911 is getting a little upset about it. > > I told them they should go after the person responsible. > They told me that's you. The line is in your name. > > Anyway, just wanted to throw out there my experience. > > Dwaine > > Jim Duuuude wrote: > > Okay (and yes, that is STUPID and most likely > WRONG, but most police depts are > just completely ignorant of telecom issues). So, fine... > GIVE them access to 911. > Let them dial it. But, sadly, on YOUR phone network, the > dialing string is just a LITTLE > bit longer (like about 30 digits in front of the 911)... get > it? > > Jim > > > Date: Thu, 5 Sep > 2013 14:07:58 -0400 > From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com > To: dshaw at ke6upi.com > CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > > The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone > without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto > police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any > outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you > have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able > to connect to be able to call 911. > > I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine > they will charge me. > > Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. > If there is a phone install, the criminals better have > access to dial 911 unrestrictive. > > The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for > months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial > 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. > No questions asked. No login or nothing. > > The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are > setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. > > It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new > everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let > them know about my experience. > > David KE6UPI wrote: > > I'm sorry Dwaine what are you > talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your > talking about. > > I have both a public Asterisk server and a local > Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a > call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and > fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop > unwanted hackers on your server. > > > > As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space > if you want. > > Google "Asterisk Security" > > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security > > > > David > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 > at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF > wrote: > > It > works great until the hacks find the machine. ?They > port scan non stop. ?Its especially fun when their > scripts dial 911 constantly. ?There is no way to turn > off dialing 911 for SIP. > > > > > Bill South > wrote: > > > > > ? ? I'm thinking of adding some type of > SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID > Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. > ?I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector > with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for > recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out > there. ?This is going to be used very sparingly so > least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no > bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. > ?I can easily get by with a single number, but may want > to add additional DIDs later. ?Thoughts? > > > > > > >Bill > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >App_rpt-users mailing list > > >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From tim.sawyer at me.com Thu Sep 5 23:58:17 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 16:58:17 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] permit= echolink.conf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <779F66B2-2D01-49E2-B3E4-B48376031A95@me.com> Look at /usr/src/astsrc/asterisk/channels/chan_echolink.c I'm no good at C but I have a stinking suspicion that increasing EL_MAX_CALL_LIST would allow both bigger permit and deny lists :-) -- Tim :wq On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:25 AM, N7LD at aol.com wrote: > Looks like I am having the same problem. Looks like the MAX stations is 30 > Lee > > > In a message dated 5/21/2013 11:08:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, w8jtw at yahoo.com writes: > Is there anyway to increase the permit= list in echolink.conf to work with more than 25 or so stations? Once I get beyond 25 it does not want to allow beyond the first 25. Or is there a way to limit to just USA connections? > I dont want to run a wide open echolink but have many friends i don't want to block need to have capacity of about 100 or so. > > Thought of trying Permit=W*,N*,A*,K* not sure if that would limit to just US callsigns or not. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > Joe > W8JTW > Node 27891 > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From N7LD at aol.com Fri Sep 6 00:43:44 2013 From: N7LD at aol.com (N7LD at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] permit= echolink.conf Message-ID: Thanks Tim, that worked!!! Set mine to 60 and it works. Lee In a message dated 9/5/2013 4:58:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tim.sawyer at me.com writes: Look at /usr/src/astsrc/asterisk/channels/chan_echolink.c I'm no good at C but I have a stinking suspicion that increasing EL_MAX_CALL_LIST would allow both bigger permit and deny lists :-) -- Tim :wq On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:25 AM, _N7LD at aol.com_ (mailto:N7LD at aol.com) wrote: Looks like I am having the same problem. Looks like the MAX stations is 30 Lee In a message dated 5/21/2013 11:08:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _w8jtw at yahoo.com_ (mailto:w8jtw at yahoo.com) writes: Is there anyway to increase the permit= list in echolink.conf to work with more than 25 or so stations? Once I get beyond 25 it does not want to allow beyond the first 25. Or is there a way to limit to just USA connections? I dont want to run a wide open echolink but have many friends i don't want to block need to have capacity of about 100 or so. 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[root at node /]#cd /etc [root at node /]#cp localtime localtime.orig [root at node /]#ln ?-sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern localtime Check your results [root at node /]#date Synchronize time from the web [root at node /]#ntpdate pool.ntp.org Set Server to Auto Sync The Time from the web [root at node /]#ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org [root at node /]#hwclock --systohc Restart ntpd service [root at node /]#service ntpd start Enable service at startup [root at node /]#chkconfig ntpd on From: Vince P To: APP RPT Forums Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] Setting System Time Hello all. Can anyone guide me on to how to setting up the time on asterisk. The time was set but for some reason a few weeks ago I noticed that its off by 8 hours. 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Thank you ________________________________ From: "N7LD at aol.com" To: tim.sawyer at me.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] permit= echolink.conf Thanks Tim, that worked!!! Set mine to 60 and it works. Lee In a message dated 9/5/2013 4:58:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tim.sawyer at me.com writes: Look at /usr/src/astsrc/asterisk/channels/chan_echolink.c > > >I'm no good at C but I have a stinking suspicion that increasing?EL_MAX_CALL_LIST would allow both bigger permit and deny lists :-) >-- >Tim >:wq > >On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:25 AM, N7LD at aol.com wrote: > >Looks like I am having the same problem. Looks like the MAX stations is 30 >>Lee >> >> >>In a message dated 5/21/2013 11:08:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, w8jtw at yahoo.com writes: >>Is there anyway to increase the permit=? list in echolink.conf to work with more than 25 or so stations?? Once I get beyond 25 it does not want to allow beyond the first 25.? Or is there a way to limit to just USA connections? >>>? ? I dont want to run a wide open echolink but have many friends i don't want to block? ? need to have capacity of about 100 or so. >>> >>>Thought of trying Permit=W*,N*,A*,K* not sure if that would limit to just US callsigns or not. >>> >>>Any suggestions? >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Joe >>>W8JTW >>>Node 27891? >>>_______________________________________________ >>>App_rpt-users mailing list >>>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>_______________________________________________ >>App_rpt-users mailing list >>App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pacific Daylight Time, tim.sawyer at me.com writes: Look at /usr/src/astsrc/asterisk/channels/chan_echolink.c I'm no good at C but I have a stinking suspicion that increasing EL_MAX_CALL_LIST would allow both bigger permit and deny lists :-) -- Tim :wq On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:25 AM, _N7LD at aol.com_ (mailto:N7LD at aol.com) wrote: Looks like I am having the same problem. Looks like the MAX stations is 30 Lee In a message dated 5/21/2013 11:08:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _w8jtw at yahoo.com_ (mailto:w8jtw at yahoo.com) writes: Is there anyway to increase the permit= list in echolink.conf to work with more than 25 or so stations? Once I get beyond 25 it does not want to allow beyond the first 25. Or is there a way to limit to just USA connections? I dont want to run a wide open echolink but have many friends i don't want to block need to have capacity of about 100 or so. Thought of trying Permit=W*,N*,A*,K* not sure if that would limit to just US callsigns or not. Any suggestions? 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URL: From randy at neals.ca Sat Sep 7 08:34:10 2013 From: randy at neals.ca (Randy Neals) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 03:34:10 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] PCGM (Programmable Clock Generator Module) Message-ID: Does anyone have any info on possibility availability of the PCGM? thx, -R -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robert at n5qm.com Sat Sep 7 15:40:36 2013 From: robert at n5qm.com (Robert Garcia) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:40:36 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Beagle board Black In-Reply-To: <2e4001ceaa12$677ea790$367bf6b0$@o2.co.uk> References: <2e4001ceaa12$677ea790$367bf6b0$@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: Ken, The BBB requires a 3.2 kernel which has changes that require a rewrite of some portions of the code from my understanding, so it is currently not supported. I expect multiple people are working on it, but to my knowledge nobody has publicly confirmed a working system. Robert N5QM On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Ken Robinson wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Can anyone tell me if the Beagle board Black will act as an Allstar node, > reading about it I think some of the input outputs have been > > taken out of the new board > > > > 73?s > > Ken > > G0lce > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From kb2ear at kb2ear.net Sat Sep 7 16:17:25 2013 From: kb2ear at kb2ear.net (Scott Weis) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 12:17:25 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Presentation Message-ID: <3BE8A598-9F1B-49B8-A4C2-9D87F52E365A@kb2ear.net> Does anyone have a presentation that covers asterisk/app_rpt/allstarlink that they would be willing to share? I have a club presentation on Wednesday and have been totally slammed at work. Thanks & 73 de, Scott KB2EAR From dshaw at ke6upi.com Sat Sep 7 20:20:05 2013 From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:20:05 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm lost. I was going to reply with a long email asking questions and helping out.. I'm not going too. Good Luck, David On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF < DwaineGarden at rogers.com> wrote: > Bill, sorry for hijacking your thread. Didn't mean it.... > > Dwine > > Bill South wrote: > > > While this thread is not part of what I originally asked about (SIP > provider recommendations) I'll add that 911 access is mandated in some > LATAs, but seems to be some debate if it must be 911 or if 9-911 is OK, or > other variations. I worked in the telecom business for over 25 years in > various parts of the USA and different localities would respond differently > to the question about 911. When E911 first came out, where a database > lookup was done by the local police emeregency agency systems answering 911 > calls showing names and addresses, some jurisdictions mandated that > database had to show the exact location the call was originating from, not > a billing address of some companies headquarters. Big problem for some > large companies where a single billing address is used for all telco > circuits. For residences I'm not sure anyone has put much thought into > laws regarding 911 dialing and any restrictions thereof; businesses on the > other hand, where > > 100's maybe thousands of workers are in the same building and floor and > locating a 911 caller could be pretty tough for local emnergency > responders, there are, or were anyway, laws in some locations mandating 911 > unrestricted. The thought has always been though that in an emergency > people have the expectation, whether at home or work, that they can dial > 911 and get help; not sure where the laws stands now on that across the USA. > > > >-------------------------------------------- > >On Thu, 9/5/13, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > > To: "Jim Duuuude" > > Cc: "app_rpt mailing list" > > Date: Thursday, September 5, 2013, 7:40 PM > > > > Canadian customers have to provide an > > address and name for 911 purposes for a DID. Bell and > > Rogers were mandated with their VoIP services. > > > > I gave them the logs of the server where the IP address were > > listed. Rogers was good and moved me to a new IP address > > and filtered out the source. > > > > I had an iptables script that would ban IP address that > > attempted a certain number of connections during a certain > > amount of time. Then ban that IP address. It worked great. > > It stopped the hackers script dead cold. Until they ran > > the 911 script. They were ruthless in their attacks. > > > > My all-star node was the best fun I have had with Ham radio. > > I'll fire it back up again. Just waiting for the dust > > to settle without a DID setup. > > > > Dwaine > > > > Jim Duuuude wrote: > > > > Double BRAVO-SIERRA!! > > > > If that were true, a LOT of large business owners (some of > > which may even operate > > large businesses :-) ) would be in jail, if they HAPPEN to > > have a phone system or even > > worse, service from the "phone company", that > > requires dialing 9 to get an "outside line". > > > > I bet even the police dept has to dial 9 to dial 911. > > > > And as far as that goes, put the line in your pet > > tarantula's name, and make it clear to them > > that the spider is more then willing to 'serve its > > time' for such a terrible transgressions!! :-) > > > > Wholesale outbound telecom services, such as ones provided > > by most SIP providers, are *NOT* > > "in your name", *NOR* do they even technically > > have a "phone number" or a "service > > address". > > Just because you pay the bill for them does not, in any > > manner, construe that you are the end user > > of the service. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Sep > > 2013 14:58:42 -0400 > > Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > > From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com > > To: telesistant at hotmail.com > > CC: dshaw at ke6upi.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > > > It was an interesting experience. Has anyone else > > experienced the same problem and had the police involved? > > I did mention that I would change the > > Dial string. The police told me that a person has to be > > able to dial 911 and get emergency services. > > > > I gave up and just walked over to the all-star computer and > > hit the power button. Sadly, it has been off ever since. > > > > If I had changed the 911 Dial string before the incident. > > The police would of not gotten involved. Never known about > > the situation. > > > > Just let everyone know. The two police officers were very > > good about it. They told me that its happening a lot and > > 911 is getting a little upset about it. > > > > I told them they should go after the person responsible. > > They told me that's you. The line is in your name. > > > > Anyway, just wanted to throw out there my experience. > > > > Dwaine > > > > Jim Duuuude wrote: > > > > Okay (and yes, that is STUPID and most likely > > WRONG, but most police depts are > > just completely ignorant of telecom issues). So, fine... > > GIVE them access to 911. > > Let them dial it. But, sadly, on YOUR phone network, the > > dialing string is just a LITTLE > > bit longer (like about 30 digits in front of the 911)... get > > it? > > > > Jim > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Sep > > 2013 14:07:58 -0400 > > From: DwaineGarden at rogers.com > > To: dshaw at ke6upi.com > > CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] SIP VoIP for Asterisk > > > > The problem is you are not allowed by law to have a phone > > without unrestricted access to 911. I had Metro Toronto > > police at my door explaining that even if I block 911 to any > > outside connections I would be breaking the law. If you > > have a server on the internet with sip. They have to able > > to connect to be able to call 911. > > > > I told the police it was retard. They told me that was fine > > they will charge me. > > > > Police told me that even if someone breaks into your house. > > If there is a phone install, the criminals better have > > access to dial 911 unrestrictive. > > > > The hackers did not get into the box. They were trying for > > months. Got pissed off and changed their script to dial > > 911 constantly. SIP and DID see a 911 call. It dials it. > > No questions asked. No login or nothing. > > > > The Police told me it was a huge problem. SIP or DID are > > setup like a public pay phone. Full access to 911. > > > > It was an eye opener for me. You learn something new > > everyday. If I see someone asking about SIP or DID. I let > > them know about my experience. > > > > David KE6UPI wrote: > > > > I'm sorry Dwaine what are you > > talking about? Sorry If I don't understand what your > > talking about. > > > > I have both a public Asterisk server and a local > > Asterisk server. I have never had anyone connect and make a > > call that was not authenticated user.. Yes they try and > > fail2ban will block them. There are many way to stop > > unwanted hackers on your server. > > > > > > > > As for dialing 911 just make a dial plain to route to space > > if you want. > > > > Google "Asterisk Security" > > > > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+security > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 > > at 9:13 AM, Dwaine Garden VE3GIF > > wrote: > > > > It > > works great until the hacks find the machine. They > > port scan non stop. Its especially fun when their > > scripts dial 911 constantly. There is no way to turn > > off dialing 911 for SIP. > > > > > > > > > > Bill South > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking of adding some type of > > SIP trunking or other VoIP service provider to my ACID > > Asterisk system to support in/out bound calling. > > I've read some emails on the app_rpt reflector > > with names of providers mentioned, but I am looking for > > recommendations, as there are zillions of VoIP providers out > > there. This is going to be used very sparingly so > > least-cost is a good thing, but good reliability and no > > bombardment with email adds by the provider is desired too. > > I can easily get by with a single number, but may want > > to add additional DIDs later. 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URL: From harvard5362 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 8 17:03:29 2013 From: harvard5362 at yahoo.com (C B) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Passing DTMF to another controller Message-ID: <1378659809.43896.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi ? I am trying to get DTMF from other?ALLSTAR nodes to pass to a controller connected to a node. My configuration is a beagle board with the controller on port 2 (another controller will ne on port 1 latter). ? I have set in the RPT.CONF ? linktolink=yes propagate_dtmf=yes ? On both nodes. ? Below I have copied my RPT.CONF information in case I have placed them in the wrong place or I have a syntax error or some other error. ? Thank you in advance for any help. ? ? Chris ? ? ; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) ; ; ; Your Repeater ; [29876]???????????????????????????????? ; Change this to your assigned node number rxchannel=Beagle/beagle29876 duplex=0 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates scheduler=schedule29876 morse=morse29876 macro=macro29876 functions=functions29876 phone_functions=functions29876 link_functions=functions29876 telemetry=telemetry wait_times=wait-times context =? radio callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> idrecording = |iN6LXX accountcode=RADIO hangtime=001 althangtime=100 totime=170000 idtime=540000 politeid=3000 linktolink=yes propagate_dtmf=yes idtalkover=|iN6LXX unlinkedct=ct2 remotect=ct3 linkunkeyct=ct8 ;nolocallinkct=0 ;eannmode=1 ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ;lnkactenable=0 ;lnkacttime=1800 ;lnkactmacro=*52 ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ;remote_timeout=3600 nounkeyct=1 ;holdofftelem=0 beaconing=0 ; ; *** Status Reporting *** ; ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. ; ** For ACID *** statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ** For Limey Linux ** ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. ; [morse29876] speed=18 frequency=800 amplitude=4096 idfrequency=750 idamplitude=1024 [schedule29876]???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ;dtmf_function =? m h dom mon dow? ; ala cron, star is implied????????????????? [functions29876] 1=ilink,1 2=ilink,2 3=ilink,3 4=ilink,4 5=macro,1 70=ilink,5 71=ilink,6 72=ilink,7 73=ilink,15 74=ilink,16 75=ilink,8 80=status,1 81=status,2 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000? ; Autopatch up 0=autopatchdn?????????????????????????? ; Autopatch down 989=cop,4 980=status,3 99=cop,6 ; Place command macros here [macro29876] ? [29877]???????????????????????????????? ; Change this to your assigned node number rxchannel=Beagle/beagle29877 duplex=0 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates scheduler=schedule29877 morse=morse29877 macro=macro29877 functions=functions29877 phone_functions=functions29877 link_functions=functions29877 telemetry=telemetry wait_times=wait-times context =? radio callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> idrecording = |iN6LXX accountcode=RADIO hangtime=100 althangtime=100 totime=170000 idtime=540000 politeid=3000 linktolink=yes propagate_dtmf=yes idtalkover=|iN6LXX unlinkedct=ct2 remotect=ct3 linkunkeyct=ct8 ;nolocallinkct=0 ;eannmode=1 ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ;lnkactenable=0 ;lnkacttime=1800 ;lnkactmacro=*52 ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ;remote_timeout=3600 nounkeyct=0 ;holdofftelem=0 beaconing=0 ; ; *** Status Reporting *** ; ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. ; ** For ACID *** statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ** For Limey Linux ** ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. ; [morse29877] speed=18 frequency=800 amplitude=4096 idfrequency=750 idamplitude=1024 [schedule29877]???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ;dtmf_function =? m h dom mon dow? ; ala cron, star is implied????????????????? [functions29877] 1=ilink,1 2=ilink,2 3=ilink,3 4=ilink,4 5=macro,1 70=ilink,5 71=ilink,6 72=ilink,7 73=ilink,15 74=ilink,16 75=ilink,8 80=status,1 81=status,2 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000? ; Autopatch up 0=autopatchdn?????????????????????????? ; Autopatch down 989=cop,4 980=status,3 99=cop,6 ; Place command macros here [macro29877] ? [telemetry] ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) patchup=rpt/callproceeding patchdown=rpt/callterminated ; ; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted ; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater ; [wait-times]??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? telemwait=2000 idwait=500 unkeywait=2000 calltermwait=2000 ; ; This is where you define your nodes which cam be connected to. ; [nodes] ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. 29876 = radio at 127.0.0.1/29876,NONE 29877 = radio at 127.0.0.1/29877,NONE ; Memories for remote bases [memory] ;00 = 146.580,100.0,m ;01 = 147.030,103.5,m+t ;02 = 147.240,103.5,m+t ;03 = 147.765,79.7,m-t ;04 = 146.460,100.0,m ;05 = 146.550,100.0,m #includeifexists custom/rpt.conf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Sun Sep 8 17:23:33 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 10:23:33 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> Message-ID: When you set the TX and RX levels per instructions the announcements will be the correct level. Please (again) see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/48 for all the gory details of setup with chan_usbradio. If you use chan_simpleusb the RX procedure is a bit different: Generate (with a service monitor) a full quieting 1kHz tone at 3kHz dev with no CTCSS. At the OS CLI type radio_tune_menu, adjust the reading for 3kHz. With a RTCM the procedure is pretty much the same except you have nice indicator LEDs right on the RTCM. Transmit is pretty much the same regardless of the interface. Turn of any TX CTCSS. Press *989 to generate the reference test level tone. Then measuring with your service monitor set the dev to 3 kHz. -- Tim :wq On Sep 7, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Harry Romano wrote: > Is there a way to turn their volume down? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Sun Sep 8 17:42:11 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 10:42:11 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Passing DTMF to another controller In-Reply-To: <1378659809.43896.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1378659809.43896.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This works by connecting to the node that has propagate_dtmf=yes (node 29876 in your case). Then do *40 to enter the command mode. From then on any touch tones (except * and #) will pas out the TX. Then press # to exit command mode and then (*10 to) disconnect. -- Tim :wq On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:03 AM, C B wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to get DTMF from other ALLSTAR nodes to pass to a controller connected to a node. > My configuration is a beagle board with the controller on port 2 (another controller will ne on port 1 latter). > > I have set in the RPT.CONF > > linktolink=yes > propagate_dtmf=yes > > On both nodes. > > Below I have copied my RPT.CONF information in case I have placed them in the wrong place or I have a syntax error or some other error. > > Thank you in advance for any help. > > > Chris > > > ; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) > ; > > ; > ; Your Repeater > ; > > [29876] ; Change this to your assigned node number > rxchannel=Beagle/beagle29876 > duplex=0 > erxgain=-3 > etxgain=3 > ;controlstates=controlstates > scheduler=schedule29876 > morse=morse29876 > macro=macro29876 > functions=functions29876 > phone_functions=functions29876 > link_functions=functions29876 > telemetry=telemetry > wait_times=wait-times > context = radio > callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> > idrecording = |iN6LXX > accountcode=RADIO > hangtime=001 > althangtime=100 > totime=170000 > idtime=540000 > politeid=3000 > linktolink=yes > propagate_dtmf=yes > idtalkover=|iN6LXX > unlinkedct=ct2 > remotect=ct3 > linkunkeyct=ct8 > ;nolocallinkct=0 > ;eannmode=1 > ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram > ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram > ;lnkactenable=0 > ;lnkacttime=1800 > ;lnkactmacro=*52 > ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds > ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 > ;remote_timeout=3600 > nounkeyct=1 > ;holdofftelem=0 > beaconing=0 > ; > ; *** Status Reporting *** > ; > ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org > ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. > ; ** For ACID *** > statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null > statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates > ; ** For Limey Linux ** > ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null > ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates > ; > ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. > ; > [morse29876] > speed=18 > frequency=800 > amplitude=4096 > idfrequency=750 > idamplitude=1024 > [schedule29876] > ;dtmf_function = m h dom mon dow ; ala cron, star is implied > > [functions29876] > 1=ilink,1 > 2=ilink,2 > 3=ilink,3 > 4=ilink,4 > 5=macro,1 > 70=ilink,5 > 71=ilink,6 > 72=ilink,7 > 73=ilink,15 > 74=ilink,16 > 75=ilink,8 > 80=status,1 > 81=status,2 > 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000 ; Autopatch up > 0=autopatchdn ; Autopatch down > 989=cop,4 > 980=status,3 > 99=cop,6 > ; Place command macros here > [macro29876] > > > [29877] ; Change this to your assigned node number > rxchannel=Beagle/beagle29877 > duplex=0 > erxgain=-3 > etxgain=3 > ;controlstates=controlstates > scheduler=schedule29877 > morse=morse29877 > macro=macro29877 > functions=functions29877 > phone_functions=functions29877 > link_functions=functions29877 > telemetry=telemetry > wait_times=wait-times > context = radio > callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> > idrecording = |iN6LXX > accountcode=RADIO > hangtime=100 > althangtime=100 > totime=170000 > idtime=540000 > politeid=3000 > linktolink=yes > propagate_dtmf=yes > idtalkover=|iN6LXX > unlinkedct=ct2 > remotect=ct3 > linkunkeyct=ct8 > ;nolocallinkct=0 > ;eannmode=1 > ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram > ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram > ;lnkactenable=0 > ;lnkacttime=1800 > ;lnkactmacro=*52 > ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds > ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 > ;remote_timeout=3600 > nounkeyct=0 > ;holdofftelem=0 > beaconing=0 > ; > ; *** Status Reporting *** > ; > ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org > ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. > ; ** For ACID *** > statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null > statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates > ; ** For Limey Linux ** > ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null > ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates > ; > ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. > ; > [morse29877] > speed=18 > frequency=800 > amplitude=4096 > idfrequency=750 > idamplitude=1024 > [schedule29877] > ;dtmf_function = m h dom mon dow ; ala cron, star is implied > > [functions29877] > 1=ilink,1 > 2=ilink,2 > 3=ilink,3 > 4=ilink,4 > 5=macro,1 > 70=ilink,5 > 71=ilink,6 > 72=ilink,7 > 73=ilink,15 > 74=ilink,16 > 75=ilink,8 > 80=status,1 > 81=status,2 > 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000 ; Autopatch up > 0=autopatchdn ; Autopatch down > 989=cop,4 > 980=status,3 > 99=cop,6 > ; Place command macros here > [macro29877] > > > [telemetry] > ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) > ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) > ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) > ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) > ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) > ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) > ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) > ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) > remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); > remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) > cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) > functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) > patchup=rpt/callproceeding > patchdown=rpt/callterminated > ; > ; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted > ; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater > ; > [wait-times] > telemwait=2000 > idwait=500 > unkeywait=2000 > calltermwait=2000 > ; > ; This is where you define your nodes which cam be connected to. > ; > [nodes] > ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, > ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition > ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. > 29876 = radio at 127.0.0.1/29876,NONE > 29877 = radio at 127.0.0.1/29877,NONE > ; Memories for remote bases > [memory] > ;00 = 146.580,100.0,m > ;01 = 147.030,103.5,m+t > ;02 = 147.240,103.5,m+t > ;03 = 147.765,79.7,m-t > ;04 = 146.460,100.0,m > ;05 = 146.550,100.0,m > > #includeifexists custom/rpt.conf > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harvard5362 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 8 17:51:58 2013 From: harvard5362 at yahoo.com (C B) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Passing DTMF to another controller In-Reply-To: References: <1378659809.43896.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1378662718.40850.YahooMailNeo@web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Tim ? Thank you that was the step I was missing!!!! ? After following your instructions it worked. ? Chris ________________________________ From: Tim Sawyer To: C B Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Passing DTMF to another controller This works by connecting to the node that has propagate_dtmf=yes (node 29876 in your case). Then do *40 to enter the command mode. From then on any touch tones (except * and #) will pas out the TX. Then press # to exit command mode and then (*10 to) disconnect.? -- Tim :wq On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:03 AM, C B wrote: Hi > >I am trying to get DTMF from other?ALLSTAR nodes to pass to a controller connected to a node. >My configuration is a beagle board with the controller on port 2 (another controller will ne on port 1 latter). > >I have set in the RPT.CONF > >linktolink=yes >propagate_dtmf=yes > >On both nodes. > >Below I have copied my RPT.CONF information in case I have placed them in the wrong place or I have a syntax error or some other error. > >Thank you in advance for any help. > > >Chris > > >; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) >; > >; >; Your Repeater >; > >[29876]???????????????????????????????? ; Change this to your assigned node number >rxchannel=Beagle/beagle29876 >duplex=0 >erxgain=-3 >etxgain=3 >;controlstates=controlstates >scheduler=schedule29876 >morse=morse29876 >macro=macro29876 >functions=functions29876 >phone_functions=functions29876 >link_functions=functions29876 >telemetry=telemetry >wait_times=wait-times >context =? radio >callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> >idrecording = |iN6LXX >accountcode=RADIO >hangtime=001 >althangtime=100 >totime=170000 >idtime=540000 >politeid=3000 >linktolink=yes >propagate_dtmf=yes >idtalkover=|iN6LXX >unlinkedct=ct2 >remotect=ct3 >linkunkeyct=ct8 >;nolocallinkct=0 >;eannmode=1 >;connpgm=yourconnectprogram >;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram >;lnkactenable=0 >;lnkacttime=1800 >;lnkactmacro=*52 >;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds >;remote_inact_timeout=1800 >;remote_timeout=3600 >nounkeyct=1 >;holdofftelem=0 >beaconing=0 >; >; *** Status Reporting *** >; >; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org >; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. >; ** For ACID *** >statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null >statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates >; ** For Limey Linux ** >;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null >;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates >; >; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. >; >[morse29876] >speed=18 >frequency=800 >amplitude=4096 >idfrequency=750 >idamplitude=1024 >[schedule29876]???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >;dtmf_function =? m h dom mon dow? ; ala cron, star is implied????????????????? > >[functions29876] >1=ilink,1 >2=ilink,2 >3=ilink,3 >4=ilink,4 >5=macro,1 >70=ilink,5 >71=ilink,6 >72=ilink,7 >73=ilink,15 >74=ilink,16 >75=ilink,8 >80=status,1 >81=status,2 >6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000? ; Autopatch up >0=autopatchdn?????????????????????????? ; Autopatch down >989=cop,4 >980=status,3 >99=cop,6 >; Place command macros here >[macro29876] > > >[29877]???????????????????????????????? ; Change this to your assigned node number >rxchannel=Beagle/beagle29877 >duplex=0 >erxgain=-3 >etxgain=3 >;controlstates=controlstates >scheduler=schedule29877 >morse=morse29877 >macro=macro29877 >functions=functions29877 >phone_functions=functions29877 >link_functions=functions29877 >telemetry=telemetry >wait_times=wait-times >context =? radio >callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> >idrecording = |iN6LXX >accountcode=RADIO >hangtime=100 >althangtime=100 >totime=170000 >idtime=540000 >politeid=3000 >linktolink=yes >propagate_dtmf=yes >idtalkover=|iN6LXX >unlinkedct=ct2 >remotect=ct3 >linkunkeyct=ct8 >;nolocallinkct=0 >;eannmode=1 >;connpgm=yourconnectprogram >;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram >;lnkactenable=0 >;lnkacttime=1800 >;lnkactmacro=*52 >;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds >;remote_inact_timeout=1800 >;remote_timeout=3600 >nounkeyct=0 >;holdofftelem=0 >beaconing=0 >; >; *** Status Reporting *** >; >; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org >; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. >; ** For ACID *** >statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null >statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates >; ** For Limey Linux ** >;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null >;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates >; >; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. >; >[morse29877] >speed=18 >frequency=800 >amplitude=4096 >idfrequency=750 >idamplitude=1024 >[schedule29877]???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >;dtmf_function =? m h dom mon dow? ; ala cron, star is implied????????????????? > >[functions29877] >1=ilink,1 >2=ilink,2 >3=ilink,3 >4=ilink,4 >5=macro,1 >70=ilink,5 >71=ilink,6 >72=ilink,7 >73=ilink,15 >74=ilink,16 >75=ilink,8 >80=status,1 >81=status,2 >6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000? ; Autopatch up >0=autopatchdn?????????????????????????? ; Autopatch down >989=cop,4 >980=status,3 >99=cop,6 >; Place command macros here >[macro29877] > > >[telemetry] >ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) >ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) >ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) >ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) >ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) >ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) >ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) >ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) >remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); >remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) >cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) >functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) >patchup=rpt/callproceeding >patchdown=rpt/callterminated >; >; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted >; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater >; >[wait-times]??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >telemwait=2000 >idwait=500 >unkeywait=2000 >calltermwait=2000 >; >; This is where you define your nodes which cam be connected to. >; >[nodes] >; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, >; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition >; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. >29876 = radio at 127.0.0.1/29876,NONE >29877 = radio at 127.0.0.1/29877,NONE >; Memories for remote bases >[memory] >;00 = 146.580,100.0,m >;01 = 147.030,103.5,m+t >;02 = 147.240,103.5,m+t >;03 = 147.765,79.7,m-t >;04 = 146.460,100.0,m >;05 = 146.550,100.0,m > >#includeifexists custom/rpt.conf > >?_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ke2n at cs.com Sun Sep 8 18:16:37 2013 From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 14:16:37 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements Message-ID: <004601ceacbf$8f38fa10$adaaee30$@cs.com> >>When you set the TX and RX levels per instructions the announcements will be the correct level. Actually Harry, many people find the announcements too loud for their tastes, even when everything is adjusted OK. A while back somebody posted a script that went through the entire directory containing all the announcements and lowered the volume by a certain number of DB. Perhaps with some searching you could find it, or some other user on here will have a copy. 73 Ken From kuggie at kuggie.com Sun Sep 8 19:40:55 2013 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:40:55 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> Message-ID: <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> On 9/8/2013 1:23 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > When you set the TX and RX levels per instructions the announcements > will be the correct level. With all due respect, what is a "correct announcement level" level is up for debate. (I'm not bringing this up to change or start a thread on why one distro is better than another - and I'd appreciate if no one else did either). When I got into this technology, one of my biggest gripes, along with many users, was the level of the telemetry. Allison just stepped on folks, especially if they were a little soft spoken. Of course, this IS with the levels set properly. This is one area where XIPAR has an advantage. In zipper, we can set the Nominal Telemetry Level and the Duck Level. I run -10 dB nominal, and -15 dB duck. With these levels, Allison doesn't blast you out of the water, and if someone (somewhere) has the mic keyed, she's ducked out an additional amount, BUT you can still hear what she is saying - even along with a loud mouth (such as myself). While I refer to "she" (Allison) all telemetry, including CWID's and whatever is controlled by these settings. Thanks, Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 8 20:38:15 2013 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:38:15 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> Message-ID: <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> I agree that this is a great feature that Xipar has. Also subjective, and I don?t know what they?re doing differently, but I have an easier time with level adjustments with Xipar (the automatic level setting for rxnoise seems to work a bit better), and at least on my radios, audio ?sounds? better, better being kind of relative, yes, I understand that. However, it looks like xipar is missing a couple things that main line acide distro has, I mean besides that acid works with Allstar?s autopatch and dial-in service without additional fiddling. Doesn?t appear Xipar has the provision for recording or streaming from app_rpt. Also, it looks like ID pitch and volume are fixed (and a bit lo of my taste), and the echo link channel driver didn?t compile last time I tried a beta of it several months ago. And i at least don?t really need or want Freepbx. So, until or unless Echolink gets worked out along with streaming/recording, I?m sticking with acid, even in spite of some of xipar?s real advantages. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Kevin Custer wrote: > On 9/8/2013 1:23 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> When you set the TX and RX levels per instructions the announcements will be the correct level. > > With all due respect, what is a "correct announcement level" level is up for debate. (I'm not bringing this up to change or start a thread on why one distro is better than another - and I'd appreciate if no one else did either). > > When I got into this technology, one of my biggest gripes, along with many users, was the level of the telemetry. Allison just stepped on folks, especially if they were a little soft spoken. > Of course, this IS with the levels set properly. > > This is one area where XIPAR has an advantage. > > In zipper, we can set the Nominal Telemetry Level and the Duck Level. I run -10 dB nominal, and -15 dB duck. With these levels, Allison doesn't blast you out of the water, and if someone (somewhere) has the mic keyed, she's ducked out an additional amount, BUT you can still hear what she is saying - even along with a loud mouth (such as myself). While I refer to "she" (Allison) all telemetry, including CWID's and whatever is controlled by these settings. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Mon Sep 9 00:16:00 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:16:00 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> Message-ID: <522D1340.7020000@bdboyle.com> On 9/8/2013 4:38 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > I agree that this is a great feature that Xipar has. Also subjective, and I don?t know what they?re doing differently, but I have an easier time with level adjustments with Xipar (the automatic level setting for rxnoise seems to work a bit better), and at least on my radios, audio ?sounds? better, better being kind of relative, yes, I understand that. However, it looks like xipar is missing a couple things that main line acide distro has, I mean besides that acid works with Allstar?s autopatch and dial-in service without additional fiddling. Doesn?t appear Xipar has the provision for recording or streaming from app_rpt. Also, it looks like ID pitch and volume are fixed (and a bit lo of my taste), and the echo link channel driver didn?t compile last time I tried a beta of it several months ago. And i at least don?t really need or want Freepbx. So, until or unless Echolink gets worked out along with streaming/recording, I?m sticking with acid, even in spite of some of xipar?s real a dvantages. > -- You know, what's interesting, is the different focus of the two and how they've developed on parallel, but, in some respects, divergent paths: open source is like that. I think a couple things, from my standpoint, that I'd like to see in acid would be including DCS as an option for coded squelch. IIRC, XIPAR has it. That, and the variable audio level features Kevin described. Other than that? Both are viable, excellent programs that address a need...you pays your money, you takes your chances. So, they're both good; guess it just comes down to what you need to do, how you addressed it with what tools you had at the time, and how much pain it would be to migrate (though, to tell the truth, I'd like to try WN3A's rewrite of one of the codecs...I hear the quality is superb...) Bryan From kuggie at kuggie.com Mon Sep 9 00:21:54 2013 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:21:54 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> Message-ID: <522D14A2.8030508@kuggie.com> On 9/8/2013 4:38 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > I agree that this is a great feature that Xipar has. Also subjective, and I don't know what they're doing differently, but I have an easier time with level adjustments with Xipar (the automatic level setting for rxnoise seems to work a bit better), and at least on my radios, audio "sounds" better, better being kind of relative, yes, I understand that. I guess it depends on if you are using the audio w-i-d-e-n-i-n-g filter rules. If you are - then they are not relative, but real improvements in audio quality. In zipper, the following apply: rxlpf=x txlpf=x txhpf=x txlpf=x x can be 0, 1 or 2. More info here: http://www.wanrepeater.com/xipar_urd_filters.doc > However, it looks like xipar is missing a couple things that main line acide distro has, I mean besides that acid works with Allstar's autopatch and dial-in service without additional fiddling. Doesn't appear Xipar has the provision for recording or streaming from app_rpt. Recording and Streaming - sure it does. We record everything and it is streamed on Radio Reference. Contact Brian Burton - KB3ORS for details on this. > Also, it looks like ID pitch and volume are fixed (and a bit lo of my taste), You have to put in the following in rpt.conf then you can set it however you like. morse = morse Then, adjust the settings in the [morse] stanza. > and the echo link channel driver didn't compile last time I tried a beta of it several months ago. Not sure - I personally don't do Echolink, but it worked the last time someone else did a new install and connected to WAN. > And i at least don't really need or want Freepbx. So, until or unless Echolink gets worked out along with streaming/recording, I'm sticking with acid, even in spite of some of xipar's real advantages. That's why there are several distros. IMHO there are two BIG disadvantages currently with XIPAR - No WebTransceiver and no AllMon. So, I run two servers with ACID - all fixed... Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buddy at brannan.name Mon Sep 9 00:37:41 2013 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 20:37:41 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <522D1340.7020000@bdboyle.com> References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> <522D1340.7020000@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: Rewrite of a codec? Hmm, I?m intrigued. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Sep 8, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > On 9/8/2013 4:38 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> I agree that this is a great feature that Xipar has. Also subjective, and I don?t know what they?re doing differently, but I have an easier time with level adjustments with Xipar (the automatic level setting for rxnoise seems to work a bit better), and at least on my radios, audio ?sounds? better, better being kind of relative, yes, I understand that. However, it looks like xipar is missing a couple things that main line acide distro has, I mean besides that acid works with Allstar?s autopatch and dial-in service without additional fiddling. Doesn?t appear Xipar has the provision for recording or streaming from app_rpt. Also, it looks like ID pitch and volume are fixed (and a bit lo of my taste), and the echo link channel driver didn?t compile last time I tried a beta of it several months ago. And i at least don?t really need or want Freepbx. So, until or unless Echolink gets worked out along with streaming/recording, I?m sticking with acid, even in spite of some of xipar?s > real a > dvantages. >> -- > > You know, what's interesting, is the different focus of the two and how > they've developed on parallel, but, in some respects, divergent paths: > open source is like that. > > I think a couple things, from my standpoint, that I'd like to see in > acid would be including DCS as an option for coded squelch. IIRC, XIPAR > has it. That, and the variable audio level features Kevin described. > Other than that? Both are viable, excellent programs that address a > need...you pays your money, you takes your chances. > > So, they're both good; guess it just comes down to what you need to do, > how you addressed it with what tools you had at the time, and how much > pain it would be to migrate (though, to tell the truth, I'd like to try > WN3A's rewrite of one of the codecs...I hear the quality is superb...) > > Bryan > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Mon Sep 9 00:47:08 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:47:08 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> <522D1340.7020000@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: <522D1A8C.4020100@bdboyle.com> On 9/8/2013 8:37 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Rewrite of a codec? Hmm, I?m intrigued. Should have said rewrite of tx/rx bandpass filtering rules...We talked about it a little bit while I was working for him a month ago while on the bench. My bad, and fingers worked ahead of my brain, listening to 2 sunday night nets and typing mail messages...sorry... BB From kuggie at kuggie.com Mon Sep 9 02:57:26 2013 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 22:57:26 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <522D1A8C.4020100@bdboyle.com> References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> <522D1340.7020000@bdboyle.com> <522D1A8C.4020100@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: <522D3916.7030509@kuggie.com> > On 9/8/2013 8:37 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Rewrite of a codec? Hmm, I'm intrigued. > On 9/8/2013 8:47 PM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > Should have said rewrite of tx/rx bandpass filtering rules...We talked > about it a little bit while I was working for him a month ago while on > the bench. Actually - you are correct Bryan..... When Jeff DePolo was first getting into this technology, he discovered problems with the receiver input filter. Jeff is a perfectionist, and like me is an audio purist. There is a brief reference to his work (detailed below) in the link I shared: http://www.wanrepeater.com/xipar_urd_filters.doc Here is an email Jeff wrote while testing: /I spent most of today on a hair-pulling excursion to try to find the cause of some really hellacious aliasing distortion through the repeater. I could give you the long story some other time, but the short version is that I found a bug in the rx frontend FIR code where the history buffer is shifted to add a new sample. The line: memmove(x+1, x, nx-1) should be memmove(x+1, x, (nx-1)*2) Gotta move 16-bit ints not bytes. With that corrected, the aliasing distortion dropped immensely as you might imagine. Aliasing-related distortion products are now below -40 dBr as compared to as little as -6 dBr previously! However, I'm still not happy with the audio. I'm seeing 1-2% THD through Asterisk from dongle Rx port to Tx port. That led me down yet another path to quantify the performance of the hardware (DMK Engineering dongle) via my Audio Precision test set, analysis software in Windows (had the dongle connected to an XP machine for testing), etc.. For the most part, it passes, with the basic specs coming fairly close to the specs for the CM108. It still has other issues, but none that would account for the THD that I'm seeing. There's also a problem somewhere that manifests as excruciatingly high distortion below about 450 Hz when the input amplitude is over maybe -6 dBFS (I haven't dug into that deeply yet, but I'm guessing it's an overflow/underflow problem in 16 bit integer math somewhere). That's where I'm stopping for the night. Anyway, thought you'd want to know about the FIR bug if nothing else. Please keep in mind that I'm NOT trying to find faults in your code. I have some perfectionist tendencies, and they really come through when it comes to audio. If you're open to constructive criticism I'll pass along whatever else I find. If not, just tell me to go away and I will. --- Jeff/ Jeff also wrote a followup: /I re-did all of the FIR filters, found a few other bugs along the way, etc. There is still a problem in the preemphasis/deemphasis routines that can result in integer overflows under certain conditions, and I have some other things I want to fix, but I'm going to stop for now until I have some more time to spend on it.// / Ultimately, Jeff went through everything and got it to a state where he was satisfied. I'm fairly sure all of these improvements exist in ACID as well as XIPAR, maybe Dude can verify? Thanks, Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With these levels, Allison doesn't blast you out of the water, and if someone (somewhere) has the mic keyed, she's ducked out an additional amount, BUT you can still hear what she is saying - even along with a loud mouth (such as myself). While I refer to "she" (Allison) all telemetry, including CWID's and whatever is controlled by these settings. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Mon Sep 9 05:01:21 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 22:01:21 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <000a01cead12$b36e9b30$1a4bd190$@net> References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <000a01cead12$b36e9b30$1a4bd190$@net> Message-ID: Yes it's easy to turn off dis/connect messages. See telemdefault http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103. I like mode 2. Echolink levels can be adjusted independently of other audio. In your node stanza you should see the following statements near the top. Uncomment or add them. erxgain=-3 ; Echolink receive gain adjustment ; Note: Gain is in db-volts (20logVI/VO) etxgain=3 ; Echolink transmit gain adjustment ; Note: Gain is in db-volts (20logVI/VO) One thing I like to do is add another node to my system just for echolink. That way you can dis/connect it as needed. -- Tim :wq On Sep 8, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Harry Romano wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Thanks for the reply . I think I want to shut them off. When I was on the win system the other night there were so many connects and disconnect announcements you could not here the net control. Is It easier to just turn them off instead of turning them down? > > I have the radios adjusted good for input and output deviation, What I am speaking of is the announcements. Thanks for the info . Apparently there is a difference when you go to radio tune mode from Cli vs. root. The cli allows more detailed tuning. > > Another issue I have is with Echolink. I personally don?t like Echolink but one of my repeater users does a net with it . The echo link come in at a different volume level than let?s say the web transceiver or another allstar node . both my nodes connect together great but Echolink is defiantly lower . Is there a way to get a volume increase just for Echolink? I was thinking of putting a txmixer = 250 command in the Echolink.conf. But I think that may make everything else get louder too. > > > 73's > > Harry KC4RPP > > > From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer at me.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 1:24 PM > To: Harry Romano > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] announcements > > When you set the TX and RX levels per instructions the announcements will be the correct level. > > Please (again) see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/48 for all the gory details of setup with chan_usbradio. If you use chan_simpleusb the RX procedure is a bit different: Generate (with a service monitor) a full quieting 1kHz tone at 3kHz dev with no CTCSS. At the OS CLI type radio_tune_menu, adjust the reading for 3kHz. With a RTCM the procedure is pretty much the same except you have nice indicator LEDs right on the RTCM. > > Transmit is pretty much the same regardless of the interface. Turn of any TX CTCSS. Press *989 to generate the reference test level tone. Then measuring with your service monitor set the dev to 3 kHz. > > -- > Tim > :wq > > On Sep 7, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Harry Romano wrote: > > > Is there a way to turn their volume down? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kt9ac at ameritech.net Mon Sep 9 08:53:36 2013 From: kt9ac at ameritech.net (Tony KT9AC) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 01:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <522D14A2.8030508@kuggie.com> References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <522CD2C7.8010002@kuggie.com> <5C6B91E2-601F-41F2-B15D-6D18BA953FAD@brannan.name> <522D14A2.8030508@kuggie.com> Message-ID: <1378716816.25306.YahooMailNeo@web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Kevin, ?Do you mean WAV file recording like ACID does? ? ? Recording and Streaming - sure it does. ?We record everything and it is streamed on Radio Reference. ? ? Contact Brian Burton - KB3ORS for details on this. Tony ________________________________ From: Kevin Custer To: Buddy Brannan ; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] announcements On 9/8/2013 4:38 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: I agree that this is a great feature that Xipar has. Also subjective, and I don?t know what they?re doing differently, but I have an easier time with level adjustments with Xipar (the automatic level setting for rxnoise seems to work a bit better), and at least on my radios, audio ?sounds? better, better being kind of relative, yes, I understand that. I guess it depends on if you are using the audio w-i-d-e-n-i-n-g filter rules.? If you are - then they are not relative, but real improvements in audio quality.? In zipper, the following apply: rxlpf=x txlpf=x txhpf=x txlpf=x x can be 0, 1 or 2. More info here: http://www.wanrepeater.com/xipar_urd_filters.doc However, it looks like xipar is missing a couple things that main line acide distro has, I mean besides that acid works with Allstar?s autopatch and dial-in service without additional fiddling. Doesn?t appear Xipar has the provision for recording or streaming from app_rpt. Recording and Streaming - sure it does.? We record everything and it is streamed on Radio Reference. Contact Brian Burton - KB3ORS for details on this. Also, it looks like ID pitch and volume are fixed (and a bit lo of my taste), You have to put in the following in rpt.conf then you can set it however you like. morse = morse Then, adjust the settings in the [morse] stanza. and the echo link channel driver didn?t compile last time I tried a beta of it several months ago. Not sure - I personally don't do Echolink, but it worked the last time someone else did a new install and connected to WAN.? And i at least don?t really need or want Freepbx. So, until or unless Echolink gets worked out along with streaming/recording, I?m sticking with acid, even in spite of some of xipar?s real advantages. That's why there are several distros. IMHO there are two BIG disadvantages currently with XIPAR - No WebTransceiver and no AllMon.?? So, I run two servers with ACID - all fixed... 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If it is possible to share one auto-patch between nodes could I place a FXO card in the HUB node computer and share that connection? ? please let me apologize if this has been covered but I could not find it. ? thank you for your help. ? Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cypresstower at yahoo.com Mon Sep 9 15:26:24 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: References: <002101ceac5b$5c8710c0$15953240$@net> <000a01cead12$b36e9b30$1a4bd190$@net> Message-ID: <1378740384.39970.YahooMailNeo@web163602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I find most sysops adjust the audio by ear so that itself adds to the mismatch. ??I like the cop commands, 33-34 to turn on and off the audio.? Zipper is good, but as mentioned ACID has its advantages.? One being it still supports ztmonitor.? That's a good tool.? Maybe if we all send in a 5 dollar donation once a year, it may in courage the code guys to consider some of the suggestions out there.? I'm on my way to kick in right now. Johnny ? ________________________________ From: Tim Sawyer To: Harry Romano Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org list" Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] announcements Yes it's easy to turn off dis/connect messages. See telemdefault?http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/103. I like mode 2.? Echolink levels can be adjusted independently of other audio. In your node stanza you should see the following statements near the top. Uncomment or add them.? erxgain=-3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?; Echolink receive gain adjustment ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; Note: Gain is in db-volts (20logVI/VO) etxgain=3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; Echolink transmit gain adjustment ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; Note: Gain is in db-volts (20logVI/VO) One thing I like to do is add another node to my system just for echolink. That way you can dis/connect it as needed. -- Tim :wq On Sep 8, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Harry Romano wrote: Hi Tim, > >Thanks for the reply . I think I want to shut them off. When I was on the win system the other night there were so many connects and disconnect announcements you could not here the net control. Is It easier to just turn them off instead of ?turning them down? > >I have the radios adjusted good for input and output deviation, What I am speaking of is the announcements.? Thanks for the info . Apparently there is a difference when you go to radio tune mode from Cli vs. root.? The cli allows more detailed tuning. > >Another issue I have is with Echolink. I personally don?t like Echolink but one of my repeater users does a net with it . The echo link come in at a different volume level than let?s say the web transceiver or another allstar node . both my nodes connect together great but Echolink is defiantly lower . Is there a way to get a volume increase just for Echolink? I was thinking of putting a txmixer = 250 command in the Echolink.conf. But I think that may make everything else get louder too. > > >73's > >Harry? KC4RPP >? >? >From:?Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer at me.com]? >Sent:?Sunday, September 08, 2013 1:24 PM >To:?Harry Romano >Cc:?app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >Subject:?Re: [App_rpt-users] announcements > >When you set the TX and RX levels per instructions the announcements will be the correct level.? > > >Please (again) see?http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/48?for all the gory details of setup with chan_usbradio.?If you use chan_simpleusb the RX procedure is a bit different:?Generate (with a service monitor) a full quieting 1kHz tone at 3kHz dev with no CTCSS. At the OS CLI type radio_tune_menu, adjust the reading for 3kHz.?With a RTCM the procedure is pretty much the same except you have nice indicator LEDs right on the RTCM. > > >Transmit is pretty much the same regardless of the interface. ?Turn of any TX CTCSS. Press *989 to generate the reference test level tone. Then measuring with your service monitor set the dev to 3 kHz. > > >-- >Tim >:wq > >On Sep 7, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Harry Romano wrote: > > > >Is there a way to turn their volume down? _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From telesistant at hotmail.com Mon Sep 9 17:00:08 2013 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:00:08 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] autopatch when linked In-Reply-To: <1378740021.24201.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1378740021.24201.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: First of all, the Allstar Autopatch subscription is per SERVER, not NODE. All the nodes on any server, by inherent design, share autopatch accessibility. There is not so much as a SINGLE manufacturer of an FXO card that will provide sufficient quality, especially in the area of trans-hybrid loss, for radio autopatch (full duplex) use, without hardware echo cancellation, which is going to be a DARNED EXPENSIVE CARD!!!! Nor will any ATA!!! Even current FXO cards with H/W echo cancellation *REALLY* sound CRAPPY when used this way. Don't do it. Don't try it. It won't work. That is reality. Now, for those of you "poised" to press the reply button and share your "wealth" of advice on how "gee, it works fine for me", I am just going to say, "in this case, just don't". Trust me. I invented this technology (Zapata Technology/Zaptel/DAHDI). I understand why it works, and why (in this case) it can't (in great detail). I certainly acknowledge that there have been a number of really good open S/W echo cancelers contributed to the Asterisk project, especially the one that David Rowe wrote. Even it can't "forgive" a poopy hardware FXO implementation (which they ALL are) along with the SUPER DEMANDING (well in excess of normal telecom) needs of a two-way radio full duplex autopatch. I dedicated a vast part of my life, to, amongst other things, making reasonable *FOUR WIRE* telecom interfaces available to *EVERYONE ON THE PLANET*. Previous to Zapata/Asterisk, we were all *FORCED* to use 2 wire (standard POTS) for things that *REALLY* required a trunk (4 wire) for proper quality and control. We can now. And its so incredibly inexpensive. It makes me smile!! Take advantage of it. Jim WB6NIL Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:20:21 -0700 From: harvard5362 at yahoo.com To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] autopatch when linked Hi in trying to figure out a good way to implement auto-patch on a linked system. I keep several repeaters linked full time, some via my existing system with a ALLSTAR node connected to a port on the controller, others via ALLSTAR directly. thus I feel it would be more efficient if 1 patch served all. Can 1 node share its auto-patch with other nodes or do I need to have a separate patch for each node? Also I would like to use a PBX (not sip) extension if possible. If it is possible to share one auto-patch between nodes could I place a FXO card in the HUB node computer and share that connection? please let me apologize if this has been covered but I could not find it. thank you for your help. Chris _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bbrown at byrg.net Mon Sep 9 18:16:25 2013 From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bob_Brown_=2D_W=D8NQX?=) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:16:25 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] autopatch when linked In-Reply-To: References: <1378740021.24201.YahooMailNeo@web124503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All, Listen to Him ( JIM ), He Speaks the Truth. He has been there, done that and got a few Tattoos and T-shirts, maybe had the Tats removed, or never had them applied. But at any rate, he knows best here! Sm0ke. -- Thanks in Advance Bob Brown, W?NQX Kansas City Metro Area http://drsm0ke.net http://byrg.net http://sm0kenet.net http://kcdstar.byrg.net Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote: > First of all, the Allstar Autopatch subscription is per SERVER, not NODE. > All the nodes > on any server, by inherent design, share autopatch accessibility. > > There is not so much as a SINGLE manufacturer of an FXO card that will > provide > sufficient quality, especially in the area of trans-hybrid loss, for radio > autopatch > (full duplex) use, without hardware echo cancellation, which is going to > be a DARNED > EXPENSIVE CARD!!!! Nor will any ATA!!! Even current FXO cards with H/W > echo cancellation > *REALLY* sound CRAPPY when used this way. > > Don't do it. Don't try it. It won't work. That is reality. > > Now, for those of you "poised" to press the reply button and share your > "wealth" of > advice on how "gee, it works fine for me", I am just going to say, "in > this case, just don't". > Trust me. I invented this technology (Zapata Technology/Zaptel/DAHDI). I > understand why > it works, and why (in this case) it can't (in great detail). > > I certainly acknowledge that there have been a number of really good open > S/W echo > cancelers contributed to the Asterisk project, especially the one that > David Rowe wrote. > Even it can't "forgive" a poopy hardware FXO implementation (which they > ALL are) along > with the SUPER DEMANDING (well in excess of normal telecom) needs of a > two-way radio > full duplex autopatch. > > I dedicated a vast part of my life, to, amongst other things, making > reasonable *FOUR WIRE* > telecom interfaces available to *EVERYONE ON THE PLANET*. Previous to > Zapata/Asterisk, we > were all *FORCED* to use 2 wire (standard POTS) for things that *REALLY* > required a trunk > (4 wire) for proper quality and control. We can now. And its so incredibly > inexpensive. It makes > me smile!! Take advantage of it. > > Jim WB6NIL > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:20:21 -0700 > From: harvard5362 at yahoo.com > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: [App_rpt-users] autopatch when linked > > > Hi > > in trying to figure out a good way to implement auto-patch on a linked > system. > > I keep several repeaters linked full time, some via my existing system > with a ALLSTAR node connected to a port on the controller, others via > ALLSTAR directly. thus I feel it would be more efficient if 1 patch served > all. > > Can 1 node share its auto-patch with other nodes or do I need to have a > separate patch for each node? 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URL: From yokshs at gmail.com Mon Sep 9 22:45:22 2013 From: yokshs at gmail.com (K&R Yoksh) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:45:22 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Printer Port Message-ID: I think that Angelo is speaking about USB->Parallel adapters being used on computers that lack a physical parallel port. I believe that this question has come up before, and the answer was NO, it doesn't work. I recommended using a PCI parallel port card, but Angelo is working with a laptop. 73, Kyle K0KN Olathe, KS Allstar 2210-2219 --- Original Message --- I was wondering if anyone has tried a USB Printer interface with the PRLP interface with Asterisk??? Does ACID address the USB adapter??? 7 3 de Angelo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is because the IRLP board uses direct manipulation of the I/O lines, rather than the packetised data format the USB adapters expect. -- 73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL http://vkradio.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n5uxt at hotmail.com Tue Sep 10 14:35:31 2013 From: n5uxt at hotmail.com (Angelo Glorioso) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:35:31 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Printer Port References: <20130909160333.71befee5dbd13c5325dd1a521b4e73ee.fdd7289895.wbe@email06.secureserver.net> Message-ID: Mike, I would think so. I am not a Linux person myself, but I guess it is how the Centos addresses I/O request. 7 3 de Angelo ----- Original Message ----- From: mike at midnighteng.com To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] USB Printer Port Should be no reason that a USB/PP would not work with this if it is properly addressed (i.e 378,278,3bc) in your configuration. While I have not used them with apt-rpt specifically, I have used them with controller software that I wrote years ago. ...mike/kb8jnm -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Printer Port From: "K&R Yoksh" Date: Mon, September 09, 2013 6:45 pm To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org I think that Angelo is speaking about USB->Parallel adapters being used on computers that lack a physical parallel port. I believe that this question has come up before, and the answer was NO, it doesn't work. I recommended using a PCI parallel port card, but Angelo is working with a laptop. 73, Kyle K0KN Olathe, KS Allstar 2210-2219 --- Original Message --- I was wondering if anyone has tried a USB Printer interface with the PRLP interface with Asterisk??? Does ACID address the USB adapter??? 7 3 de Angelo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at ple.org Tue Sep 10 23:38:47 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:38:47 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar Message-ID: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> Good sometimes, i get distorted audio locally on the repeat and also on simple announcements like the time announcement. If and when I get that distorted audio it kind of sounds as if the audio stream is sampled i 20ms increments and every other piece is left out. This happens only every now and then, while most of the time the audio is absolutely perfect. As hardware is a nondescript 2GHz dual core, (all-star uses about 15-25% CPU), so it should not be a speed problem. Two URI?s are connected to this PC, one for the public all-star link, the other to a private GMRS node, Tried two different radios, so it should not be the radio either, unless two unrelated GM300s have exactly the same problem (For the time being I?ll go under the assumption its not the radio) I don?t know yet if that ever happens on the TCP end, but I doubt it. Does anyone have *ANY* idea what that could be? -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4805 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jrorke at cogeco.ca Wed Sep 11 11:51:15 2013 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (Jon Rorke) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:51:15 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> Message-ID: <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> I have seen this before. What is the TX voice setting on y our node? If its any where near 900 then it may be trying to drive your TX but is running out of room. Do you have TX boost turned on in USBradio.conf? > hdwtype=0 > rxboost=0 > txboost=1 If not turn it on then retune the TX voice. If you can TX voice near 500 (Mid scale) then you have a better chance of not having the audio distort on some peaks. The same would be true if your TX voice setting is near 100 to 200 and you are over driving the TX a little. In this case then turn off TX boost in USBradio and retune. Give this a try ans see if this helps. Jon VA3RQ On 9/10/2013 7:38 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > Good > > sometimes, i get distorted audio locally on the repeat and also on > simple announcements like the time announcement. If and when I get > that distorted audio it kind of sounds as if the audio stream is > sampled i 20ms increments and every other piece is left out. This > happens only every now and then, while most of the time the audio is > absolutely perfect. > > As hardware is a nondescript 2GHz dual core, (all-star uses about > 15-25% CPU), so it should not be a speed problem. Two URI's are > connected to this PC, one for the public all-star link, the other to a > private GMRS node, > > Tried two different radios, so it should not be the radio either, > unless two unrelated GM300s have exactly the same problem (For the > time being I'll go under the assumption its not the radio) I don't > know yet if that ever happens on the TCP end, but I doubt it. > > Does anyone have *ANY* idea what that could be? > *--* > *Andreas Pleschutznig, *Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook > KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cypresstower at yahoo.com Wed Sep 11 16:07:12 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <1378915632.82056.YahooMailNeo@web163601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Just another perspective on audio. I too had a similar experience with occasional?distortion.? So I got test gear and checked the audio.? It was right on, but found the receiver was drifting off frequency?from temp changes.? It's been pointed out to me, a very large % of?times it's a hardware failure, as in my case.? Test gear makes me happy J Please; Let us know what you find out.? JK? From: Jon Rorke To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar I have seen this before. What is the TX voice setting on y our node? If its any where near 900 then it may be trying to drive your TX but is running out of room. Do you have TX boost turned on in USBradio.conf? hdwtype=0?? ? >rxboost=0 >txboost=1 If not turn it on then retune the TX voice. If you can TX voice near 500 (Mid scale) then you have a better chance of not having the audio distort on some peaks. The same would be true if your TX voice setting is near 100 to 200 and you are over driving the TX a little. In this case then turn off TX boost in USBradio and retune. Give this a try ans see if this helps. Jon VA3RQ On 9/10/2013 7:38 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: Good > > >sometimes, i get distorted audio locally on the repeat and also on simple announcements like the time announcement. If and when I get that distorted audio it kind of sounds as if the audio stream is sampled i 20ms increments and every other piece is left out. This happens only every now and then, while most of the time the audio is absolutely perfect.? > > >As hardware is a nondescript 2GHz dual core, (all-star uses about 15-25% CPU), so it should not be a speed problem. Two URI?s are connected to this PC, one for the public all-star link, the other to a private GMRS node,? > > >Tried two different radios, so it should not be the radio either, unless two unrelated GM300s have exactly the same problem (For the time being I?ll go under the assumption its not the radio) I don?t know yet if that ever happens on the TCP end, but I doubt it.? > > >Does anyone have *ANY* idea what that could be? > >-- >Andreas Pleschutznig,?Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >?KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > > > >_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at ple.org Wed Sep 11 16:20:32 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 11:20:32 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> Hi Jon I do not believe this is distorted audio because it is too low or too high. The audio has been measured in with the help of a service monitor and I just checked it. Both channels are set to values around 100. Also distorted because it is set too high or too low sounds different than what I am seeing here. Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:51 AM, Jon Rorke wrote: > I have seen this before. > What is the TX voice setting on y our node? If its any where near 900 then it may be trying to drive your TX but is running out of room. > Do you have TX boost turned on in USBradio.conf? > >> hdwtype=0 >> rxboost=0 >> txboost=1 > > If not turn it on then retune the TX voice. If you can TX voice near 500 (Mid scale) then you have a better chance of not having the audio distort on some peaks. > The same would be true if your TX voice setting is near 100 to 200 and you are over driving the TX a little. In this case then turn off TX boost in USBradio and retune. > > Give this a try ans see if this helps. > > Jon VA3RQ > > On 9/10/2013 7:38 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >> Good >> >> sometimes, i get distorted audio locally on the repeat and also on simple announcements like the time announcement. If and when I get that distorted audio it kind of sounds as if the audio stream is sampled i 20ms increments and every other piece is left out. This happens only every now and then, while most of the time the audio is absolutely perfect. >> >> As hardware is a nondescript 2GHz dual core, (all-star uses about 15-25% CPU), so it should not be a speed problem. Two URI?s are connected to this PC, one for the public all-star link, the other to a private GMRS node, >> >> Tried two different radios, so it should not be the radio either, unless two unrelated GM300s have exactly the same problem (For the time being I?ll go under the assumption its not the radio) I don?t know yet if that ever happens on the TCP end, but I doubt it. >> >> Does anyone have *ANY* idea what that could be? >> -- >> Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >> KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As much as I have to replace one of the radios because it is on its way out (slightly of center) in this case it does not seem to be a specific radio?s problem. -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Johnny Keeker wrote: > Just another perspective on audio. > I too had a similar experience with occasional distortion. So I got test gear and checked the audio. > It was right on, but found the receiver was drifting off frequency from temp changes. It's been pointed > out to me, a very large % of times it's a hardware failure, as in my case. Test gear makes me happy J > Please; Let us know what you find out. > JK > > From: Jon Rorke > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar > > I have seen this before. > What is the TX voice setting on y our node? If its any where near 900 then it may be trying to drive your TX but is running out of room. > Do you have TX boost turned on in USBradio.conf? > >> hdwtype=0 >> rxboost=0 >> txboost=1 > > If not turn it on then retune the TX voice. If you can TX voice near 500 (Mid scale) then you have a better chance of not having the audio distort on some peaks. > The same would be true if your TX voice setting is near 100 to 200 and you are over driving the TX a little. In this case then turn off TX boost in USBradio and retune. > > Give this a try ans see if this helps. > > Jon VA3RQ > > On 9/10/2013 7:38 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >> Good >> >> sometimes, i get distorted audio locally on the repeat and also on simple announcements like the time announcement. If and when I get that distorted audio it kind of sounds as if the audio stream is sampled i 20ms increments and every other piece is left out. This happens only every now and then, while most of the time the audio is absolutely perfect. >> >> As hardware is a nondescript 2GHz dual core, (all-star uses about 15-25% CPU), so it should not be a speed problem. Two URI?s are connected to this PC, one for the public all-star link, the other to a private GMRS node, >> >> Tried two different radios, so it should not be the radio either, unless two unrelated GM300s have exactly the same problem (For the time being I?ll go under the assumption its not the radio) I don?t know yet if that ever happens on the TCP end, but I doubt it. >> >> Does anyone have *ANY* idea what that could be? >> -- >> Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >> KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keith at handscombe.co.uk Wed Sep 11 17:34:47 2013 From: keith at handscombe.co.uk (Keith@handscombe.co.uk) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:34:47 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Not on status screen status.allstar.org Message-ID: <7EB870A1-4F56-4B43-B3E8-6B2E1AD3B16A@handscombe.co.uk> Evening all from the UK. I run node 2498 and all is running fine. I check the status screen on Allstars site and my node number is not listed. When I try and login to the portal the syntax I get back is password is still outstanding so I am unable to login to portal or try reset password as its refreshes to the same screen in a loop. I have tried IE9 and Firefox browser on different pc's both report the same fault. On my node I can still ping stats.allstar.org and my node gets a reply Any help would be great Kind Regards Keith Handscombe Tel: 07940 849210 From george at dyb.com Wed Sep 11 17:44:14 2013 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:44:14 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org><52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca><80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> Message-ID: <657AC31609934FC08D547E3EF8FFBEFA@georgecPCOMVC> I have that exact problem if I use DSP, moved to COS and PTT on DB25 and it stops. Did this in every case I tried, though the only platform I used was a D945 or D201 Intel board. Ran 1GB of RAM and CPU is whatever a D945 is. GeorgeC W2DB 2360 From: Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:45 AM To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ars.w5omr at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 17:47:56 2013 From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff Edmonson) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:47:56 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Not on status screen status.allstar.org Message-ID: If you're having password issues, change to something with only letters and numbers. @#$%&*-+()!, etc are considered "special characters". I had the same issue. Geoff/W5OMR From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Wed Sep 11 17:56:24 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:56:24 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <657AC31609934FC08D547E3EF8FFBEFA@georgecPCOMVC> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> <80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> <657AC31609934FC08D547E3EF8FFBEFA@georgecPCOMVC> Message-ID: <605BDB62-97C3-4A32-A023-EEFB9E3EEBFB@bdboyle.com> DSP takes a significant amount of horsepower. Ya don't get something for nothing; reading a hardware status bit or two is a lot less intensive at the expense of additional wiring and configuration statements in the config files than decoding the stream, deriving the signals, etc. any overhead in doing so is bound to have an effect on other streams going on at that time. and we humans don't process breaks in audio as we do with visual perceptions. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings... On Sep 11, 2013, at 13:44, "George Csahanin" wrote: > I have that exact problem if I use DSP, moved to COS and PTT on DB25 and it stops. Did this in every case I tried, though the only platform I used was a D945 or D201 Intel board. > > Ran 1GB of RAM and CPU is whatever a D945 is. > > GeorgeC > W2DB > 2360 > > > From: Kevin Custer > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:45 AM > To: Andreas Pleschutznig > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar > > On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >> >> >> Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. > > Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. > > When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at ple.org Wed Sep 11 18:00:53 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:00:53 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> <80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> Message-ID: 4GB should be enough me more and 2x2GHz CPUs should be more than enough for asterisk. AT least it was in the past. -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Kevin Custer wrote: > On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >> >> >> Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. > > Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. > > When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. > > Kevin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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At the time when it happens the system is at less than 35% CPU, so I kind of doubt this is a problem in the CPU being too slow. -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > DSP takes a significant amount of horsepower. Ya don't get something for nothing; reading a hardware status bit or two is a lot less intensive at the expense of additional wiring and configuration statements in the config files than decoding the stream, deriving the signals, etc. any overhead in doing so is bound to have an effect on other streams going on at that time. > > and we humans don't process breaks in audio as we do with visual perceptions. > > -- > Bryan > Sent from my iPhone 5...small > keyboard, big fingers...please > forgive misspellings... > > > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 13:44, "George Csahanin" wrote: > >> I have that exact problem if I use DSP, moved to COS and PTT on DB25 and it stops. Did this in every case I tried, though the only platform I used was a D945 or D201 Intel board. >> >> Ran 1GB of RAM and CPU is whatever a D945 is. >> >> GeorgeC >> W2DB >> 2360 >> >> >> From: Kevin Custer >> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:45 AM >> To: Andreas Pleschutznig >> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar >> >> On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >>> >>> >>> Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. >> >> Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. >> >> When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. >> >> Kevin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. > > Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. > > When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. > > Kevin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4805 bytes Desc: not available URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Wed Sep 11 19:14:50 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:14:50 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Lots of questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a mastr ii repeater. I'd like to use app-rpt as the controller for the repeater. I'd like to be able to run echolink off the repeater. I also have a URI interface. I'd also like to after one repeater is on the air and available on echolink be able to do the same thing to another repeater to make a linked network via IP My questions are can echolink and app_rpt be run at the same time? At the same time providing repeater control and echolink service. Has anyone had any success using a raspberry pi with app_rpt and a URI? I have a laptop I could use, but the pi is an attractive solution. I'd also like to add I'm new to linux. I'm OK on computers and networking I also work in land mobile radio so the RF end of it I'm good. Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is my understanding, from talking to the inventor and several engineers that worked at Motorola during the MICOR era that the circuitry, which ultimately resulted in the famous M6709/M7716 squelch chip, was originally designed for receivers used in NASA space missions (moon). Obviously, it is crucial the circuit opened squelch under the slightest amount of quieting. In addition, it was discovered that the human brain had a difficult time understanding words that are broken by silence; it is much easier if the unintelligent space is filled with noise. For this reason, what became known as the MICOR squelch was a circuit that accomplished this task, as well as having the ability to close quickly if the recovered audio was considerably noiseless. Seasoned operators can put together enough recovered audio to make sense out of a broken transmission, and people didn't have to listen to a squelch burst if the recovered transmission was fairly quiet. This circuitry and theory can be reviewed in detail by going to the USPTO and do a patent number search; 3628058 Kevin - WJ8G -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n3fe at repeater.net Wed Sep 11 21:01:48 2013 From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:01:48 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> <80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> Message-ID: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E048596B6D2C2@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Any chance you are using an AMD processor? If you tx tone and your voice are more than 999 combined, that could also be the problem. Corey N3FE From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:45 PM To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. Kevin -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at ple.org Wed Sep 11 22:26:26 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:26:26 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <5230D720.1090802@kuggie.com> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> <80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> <5230D720.1090802@kuggie.com> Message-ID: <26C787A0-3D15-4D71-9AD1-0C125EFB52B3@ple.org> Hi Kevin, the internet connection if anything is too fast as well. Besides, even if I had no internet connection that should noyt have any impact on time announcements, right? -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Kevin Custer wrote: > On 9/11/2013 2:00 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >> 4GB should be enough me more and 2x2GHz CPUs should be more than enough for asterisk. AT least it was in the past. > > Yes - it certainly should. > > How about your Internet connection? > > Kevin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4805 bytes Desc: not available URL: From andy at ple.org Wed Sep 11 22:31:38 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:31:38 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E048596B6D2C2@exchange.mail.repeater.net> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> <80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E048596B6D2C2@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Message-ID: Huh? Now you see me stumped. I can see some badly designed math library having a problem with that, but what does that have to do with the processor. I am not discounting the statement, just trying to gather information, and the statement does not just come through the filter I have in my brain as to makes sense. As far as the CPU goes, yes I do have an AMD chip: [root at s02 proc]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 20 model : 1 model name : AMD E-350 Processor stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 1597.148 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] bogomips : 3194.29 processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 20 model : 1 model name : AMD E-350 Processor stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 1597.148 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 1 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] bogomips : 3194.88 [root at s02 proc]# -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Corey Dean wrote: > Any chance you are using an AMD processor? If you tx tone and your voice are more than 999 combined, that could also be the problem. > > Corey N3FE > > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:45 PM > To: Andreas Pleschutznig > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar > > On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > > > Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. > > Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. > > When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. > > Kevin > > > -- > This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. > Click here to report this message as spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4805 bytes Desc: not available URL: From n3fe at repeater.net Wed Sep 11 23:02:41 2013 From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:02:41 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> <80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E048596B6D2C2@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Message-ID: I have nothing but problems with an amd processor that I was using as my first node. A lot of it was audio related as well. I can't remember if it was Steve or Jim that ask me the very same question. I ended up trying an intel CPU on a pretty Low end machine and all my problems went away. I have built many nodes since for both myself and others and have never had that problem show up again. Corey n3fe Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:39 PM, "Andreas Pleschutznig" > wrote: Huh? Now you see me stumped. I can see some badly designed math library having a problem with that, but what does that have to do with the processor. I am not discounting the statement, just trying to gather information, and the statement does not just come through the filter I have in my brain as to makes sense. As far as the CPU goes, yes I do have an AMD chip: [root at s02 proc]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 20 model : 1 model name : AMD E-350 Processor stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 1597.148 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] bogomips : 3194.29 processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 20 model : 1 model name : AMD E-350 Processor stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 1597.148 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 1 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] bogomips : 3194.88 [root at s02 proc]# -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Corey Dean > wrote: Any chance you are using an AMD processor? If you tx tone and your voice are more than 999 combined, that could also be the problem. Corey N3FE From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:45 PM To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. Kevin -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Sep 11 23:06:48 2013 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It never fails to amaze me how AMD CPU's get blamed for various issues--and the actual CPU's are almost never at fault! And, yes, AMD and Intel have both had an occasional "oops" impacting a specific CPU series. In my experience, most of these "blame" issues arise from really poorly designed/buggy motherboards. Unfortunately, in practice, more of these bad boards seem to be found in low-end AMD boxes, where system builders are cutting every cost corner. With a good quality MB, AMD and Intel CPU's both work great and exhibit similar reliability/stability....And, in case you're wondering, I run a Co-Lo center and have a few racks full of AMD boards! I measure up-times in years. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 11 Sep 2013, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > Huh? Now you see me stumped. I can see some badly designed math library having a problem with that, but what does that have to do with the processor. I am not discounting the statement, just trying to gather information, and the statement does not just come through the filter I have in my brain as to makes sense. > > As far as the CPU goes, yes I do have an AMD chip: > > [root at s02 proc]# cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family : 20 > model : 1 > model name : AMD E-350 Processor > stepping : 0 > cpu MHz : 1597.148 > cache size : 512 KB > physical id : 0 > siblings : 2 > core id : 0 > cpu cores : 2 > apicid : 0 > fdiv_bug : no > hlt_bug : no > f00f_bug : no > coma_bug : no > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 6 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] > bogomips : 3194.29 > > processor : 1 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family : 20 > model : 1 > model name : AMD E-350 Processor > stepping : 0 > cpu MHz : 1597.148 > cache size : 512 KB > physical id : 0 > siblings : 2 > core id : 1 > cpu cores : 2 > apicid : 1 > fdiv_bug : no > hlt_bug : no > f00f_bug : no > coma_bug : no > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 6 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] > bogomips : 3194.88 > > [root at s02 proc]# > > -- > Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook > KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Corey Dean wrote: > > > Any chance you are using an AMD processor? If you tx tone and your voice are more than 999 combined, that could also be the problem. > > > > Corey N3FE > > > > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:45 PM > > To: Andreas Pleschutznig > > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar > > > > On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > > > > > > Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. > > > > Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. > > > > When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. > > Click here to report this message as spam. > > From ars.w5omr at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 23:21:46 2013 From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff Edmonson) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:21:46 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar Message-ID: Which channel driver (chan_?) are you using? From ke6pcv at cal-net.org Wed Sep 11 23:41:34 2013 From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:41:34 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org><52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca><80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org><52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com><4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E048596B6D2C2@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Message-ID: <75FE677DBE9048E4AE1558F42722FBBB@marshall2> I had sound related problems with a AMD processor as well many years ago. Finally gave up and used an Intel based and all the sound problems went away. Marshall - ke6pcv _____ From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Corey Dean Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:03 PM To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar I have nothing but problems with an amd processor that I was using as my first node. A lot of it was audio related as well. I can't remember if it was Steve or Jim that ask me the very same question. I ended up trying an intel CPU on a pretty Low end machine and all my problems went away. I have built many nodes since for both myself and others and have never had that problem show up again. Corey n3fe Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:39 PM, "Andreas Pleschutznig" wrote: Huh? Now you see me stumped. I can see some badly designed math library having a problem with that, but what does that have to do with the processor. I am not discounting the statement, just trying to gather information, and the statement does not just come through the filter I have in my brain as to makes sense. As far as the CPU goes, yes I do have an AMD chip: [root at s02 proc]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 20 model : 1 model name : AMD E-350 Processor stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 1597.148 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] bogomips : 3194.29 processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 20 model : 1 model name : AMD E-350 Processor stepping : 0 cpu MHz : 1597.148 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 1 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] bogomips : 3194.88 [root at s02 proc]# -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Corey Dean wrote: Any chance you are using an AMD processor? If you tx tone and your voice are more than 999 combined, that could also be the problem. Corey N3FE From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:45 PM To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. Kevin -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at ple.org Wed Sep 11 23:46:54 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:46:54 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84B66F14-27F5-48F4-8BDF-991CF6F46527@ple.org> Good question. How do I find out? -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: > Which channel driver (chan_?) are you using? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4805 bytes Desc: not available URL: From n8ohu at yahoo.com Thu Sep 12 00:05:03 2013 From: n8ohu at yahoo.com (Matthew Pitts) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1378944303.25850.YahooMailNeo@web141006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Yes, and the problems that occur are usually related to the USB subsystem, based on things I've heard about with other software I run. Matthew Pitts N8OHU ________________________________ From: David McGough To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar It never fails to amaze me how AMD CPU's get blamed for various issues--and the actual CPU's are almost never at fault! And, yes, AMD and Intel have both had an occasional "oops" impacting a specific CPU series. In my experience, most of these "blame" issues arise from really poorly designed/buggy motherboards. Unfortunately, in practice, more of these bad boards seem to be found in low-end AMD boxes, where system builders are cutting every cost corner. With a good quality MB, AMD and Intel CPU's both work great and exhibit similar reliability/stability....And, in case you're wondering, I run a Co-Lo center and have a few racks full of AMD boards! I measure up-times in years. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 11 Sep 2013, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > Huh? Now you see me stumped. I can see some badly designed math library having a problem with that, but what does that have to do with the processor. I am not discounting the statement, just trying to gather information, and the statement does not just come through the filter I have in my brain as to makes sense. > > As far as the CPU goes, yes I do have an AMD chip: > > [root at s02 proc]# cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor??? : 0 > vendor_id??? : AuthenticAMD > cpu family??? : 20 > model??? ??? : 1 > model name??? : AMD E-350 Processor > stepping??? : 0 > cpu MHz??? ??? : 1597.148 > cache size??? : 512 KB > physical id??? : 0 > siblings??? : 2 > core id??? ??? : 0 > cpu cores??? : 2 > apicid??? ??? : 0 > fdiv_bug??? : no > hlt_bug??? ??? : no > f00f_bug??? : no > coma_bug??? : no > fpu??? ??? : yes > fpu_exception??? : yes > cpuid level??? : 6 > wp??? ??? : yes > flags??? ??? : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] > bogomips??? : 3194.29 > > processor??? : 1 > vendor_id??? : AuthenticAMD > cpu family??? : 20 > model??? ??? : 1 > model name??? : AMD E-350 Processor > stepping??? : 0 > cpu MHz??? ??? : 1597.148 > cache size??? : 512 KB > physical id??? : 0 > siblings??? : 2 > core id??? ??? : 1 > cpu cores??? : 2 > apicid??? ??? : 1 > fdiv_bug??? : no > hlt_bug??? ??? : no > f00f_bug??? : no > coma_bug??? : no > fpu??? ??? : yes > fpu_exception??? : yes > cpuid level??? : 6 > wp??? ??? : yes > flags??? ??? : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] > bogomips??? : 3194.88 > > [root at s02 proc]# > > -- > Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >? KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Corey Dean wrote: > > > Any chance you are using an AMD processor?? If you tx tone and your voice are more than 999 combined, that could also be the problem. > >? > > Corey N3FE > >? > > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:45 PM > > To: Andreas Pleschutznig > > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar > >? > > On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > >? > >? > > Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. > > > > Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. > > > > When you run the top command, is it using swap memory?? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. > > Click here to report this message as spam. > > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ars.w5omr at gmail.com Thu Sep 12 00:22:00 2013 From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff Edmonson) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:22:00 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar Message-ID: In rpt. conf, somewhere near the top just under your node number. Simpleusb doesn't utilize as many resources, its my understanding, as usbradio. -Geoff/w5omr Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >Good question. How do I find out? > >-- >Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook > KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > >On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: > >> Which channel driver (chan_?) are you using? > From andy at ple.org Thu Sep 12 00:49:46 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:49:46 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf ? ; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) ; [29886] ; Change this to your assigned node number rxchannel=Radio/usb29886 duplex=2 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates scheduler=schedule29886 morse=morse29886 macro=macro29886 functions=functions phone_functions=functions link_functions=functions telemetry=telemetry wait_times=wait-times context = radio callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> idrecording = |iWQRM312 accountcode=RADIO hangtime=0 ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) (optional) althangtime=0 ; alternate squelch tail totime=170000 idtime=0 politeid=3000 idtalkover=|iWQRM312 unlinkedct=ct1 ; unlinked courtesy tone (optional) default is none ;remotect=ct3 linkunkeyct=ct1 ; courtesy tone sent on link unkey nolocallinkct=0 ; Send unlinkedct instead of linkedct if another local node is connected to this node (hosted on the same PC) nounkeyct=0 ; Set to a 1 to eliminate courtesy tones and associated delays. ;eannmode=1 ; Default: 1 = Say only node number on echolink connects ; 2 = say phonetic call sign only on echolink connects ; 3 = say phonetic call sign and node number on echolink connects ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ; Default: Disabled. Execute a program you specify on connect. ; passes 2 command line arguments to your program: ; 1. node number in this stanza (us) ; 2. node number being connected to us (them) ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ; Default: Disabled. Execute a program you specify on disconnect. ; passes 2 command line arguments to your program: ; 1. node number in this stanza (us) ; 2. node number being disconnected from us (them) ;lnkactenable=0 ; Set to 1 to enable the link activity timer. Applicable to standard nodes only. ;lnkacttime=1800 ; Link activity timer time in seconds. ;lnkactmacro=*52 ; Function to execute when link activity timer expires. ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ; Message to play when the link activity timer has 30 seconds left. ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ; Inactivity timer for remote base nodes only (set to 0 to disable). ;remote_timeout=3600 ; Session time out for remote base. (set to 0 to disable) ;holdofftelem=0 beaconing=0 ? That what you asked? -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: > In rpt. conf, somewhere near the top just under your node number. > > Simpleusb doesn't utilize as many resources, its my understanding, as usbradio. > > -Geoff/w5omr > > Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > >> Good question. How do I find out? >> >> -- >> Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >> KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 >> >> On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: >> >>> Which channel driver (chan_?) are you using? >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you have another/different computer you can load up? Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n3fe at repeater.net Thu Sep 12 02:03:05 2013 From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 22:03:05 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E048596B6D2C3@exchange.mail.repeater.net> I only mentioned it because it was mentioned to me from one of the people that helped work on the code. I wasn't try to start a war against the two giants. With that said, I will sit back and watch the thread... Corey n3fe -----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of David McGough Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:07 PM To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar It never fails to amaze me how AMD CPU's get blamed for various issues--and the actual CPU's are almost never at fault! And, yes, AMD and Intel have both had an occasional "oops" impacting a specific CPU series. In my experience, most of these "blame" issues arise from really poorly designed/buggy motherboards. Unfortunately, in practice, more of these bad boards seem to be found in low-end AMD boxes, where system builders are cutting every cost corner. With a good quality MB, AMD and Intel CPU's both work great and exhibit similar reliability/stability....And, in case you're wondering, I run a Co-Lo center and have a few racks full of AMD boards! I measure up-times in years. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 11 Sep 2013, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > Huh? Now you see me stumped. I can see some badly designed math > library having a problem with that, but what does that have to do with the processor. I am not discounting the statement, just trying to gather information, and the statement does not just come through the filter I have in my brain as to makes sense. > > As far as the CPU goes, yes I do have an AMD chip: > > [root at s02 proc]# cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family : 20 > model : 1 > model name : AMD E-350 Processor > stepping : 0 > cpu MHz : 1597.148 > cache size : 512 KB > physical id : 0 > siblings : 2 > core id : 0 > cpu cores : 2 > apicid : 0 > fdiv_bug : no > hlt_bug : no > f00f_bug : no > coma_bug : no > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 6 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] > bogomips : 3194.29 > > processor : 1 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family : 20 > model : 1 > model name : AMD E-350 Processor > stepping : 0 > cpu MHz : 1597.148 > cache size : 512 KB > physical id : 0 > siblings : 2 > core id : 1 > cpu cores : 2 > apicid : 1 > fdiv_bug : no > hlt_bug : no > f00f_bug : no > coma_bug : no > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 6 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc pni ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [8] > bogomips : 3194.88 > > [root at s02 proc]# > > -- > Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, > Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Corey Dean wrote: > > > Any chance you are using an AMD processor? If you tx tone and your voice are more than 999 combined, that could also be the problem. > > > > Corey N3FE > > > > From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org > > [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:45 PM > > To: Andreas Pleschutznig > > Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar > > > > On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > > > > > > Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. > > > > Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. > > > > When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. > > Click here to report this message as spam. > > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. http://simba.repeater.net/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=23C952223.A8B7C From n3ssl at yahoo.com Thu Sep 12 02:07:54 2013 From: n3ssl at yahoo.com (Ryan Gross) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio Message-ID: <1378951674.30020.YahooMailNeo@web141506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Ran into this problem a while ago and was found the URI interface was the problem with similar symptoms. Is this happening in duplex or simplex with audio ? ? Ryan n3ssl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Boyle Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:56 PM To: George Csahanin Cc: Kevin Custer ; Andreas Pleschutznig ; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar DSP takes a significant amount of horsepower. Ya don't get something for nothing; reading a hardware status bit or two is a lot less intensive at the expense of additional wiring and configuration statements in the config files than decoding the stream, deriving the signals, etc. any overhead in doing so is bound to have an effect on other streams going on at that time. and we humans don't process breaks in audio as we do with visual perceptions. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings... On Sep 11, 2013, at 13:44, "George Csahanin" wrote: I have that exact problem if I use DSP, moved to COS and PTT on DB25 and it stops. Did this in every case I tried, though the only platform I used was a D945 or D201 Intel board. Ran 1GB of RAM and CPU is whatever a D945 is. GeorgeC W2DB 2360 From: Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:45 AM To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. 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Heck, even radio tune txaudio tone had it, pl tone had it, etc. G From: Andreas Pleschutznig Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:06 PM To: Bryan D. Boyle Cc: George Csahanin ; Kevin Custer ; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar George, Bryan, the problem *I* have is not limited to a repeat. it does happen when on simple time announcements. At the time when it happens the system is at less than 35% CPU, so I kind of doubt this is a problem in the CPU being too slow. -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: DSP takes a significant amount of horsepower. Ya don't get something for nothing; reading a hardware status bit or two is a lot less intensive at the expense of additional wiring and configuration statements in the config files than decoding the stream, deriving the signals, etc. any overhead in doing so is bound to have an effect on other streams going on at that time. and we humans don't process breaks in audio as we do with visual perceptions. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings... On Sep 11, 2013, at 13:44, "George Csahanin" wrote: I have that exact problem if I use DSP, moved to COS and PTT on DB25 and it stops. Did this in every case I tried, though the only platform I used was a D945 or D201 Intel board. Ran 1GB of RAM and CPU is whatever a D945 is. GeorgeC W2DB 2360 From: Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:45 AM To: Andreas Pleschutznig Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar On 9/11/2013 12:20 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: Best I can describe the effect is that the audio is time sliced in 20ms packets and every other packet is missing, left out. and it does not happen when audio is especially loud or quiet. Sometimes it happens on the time announcements, which are absolutely perfect 99% of the time. Sounds to me like a computer with too little RAM or too little CPU horsepower. When you run the top command, is it using swap memory? If so, that's bad...and you need more RAM. Kevin _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have a laptop I could use, but the pi is an attractive solution. > > I'd also like to add I'm new to linux. I'm OK on computers and networking I also work in land mobile radio so the RF end of it I'm good. > > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Thu Sep 12 04:48:38 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:48:38 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's USBradio which has the DSP stuff in it. If you can get COR and CTCSS detect out of your radio you are better off switching to simpleUSB. See http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/193 -- Tim :wq On Sep 11, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf > ? > ; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) > ; > > [29886] ; Change this to your assigned node number > > rxchannel=Radio/usb29886 > duplex=2 > erxgain=-3 > etxgain=3 > ;controlstates=controlstates > scheduler=schedule29886 > morse=morse29886 > macro=macro29886 > functions=functions > phone_functions=functions > link_functions=functions > telemetry=telemetry > wait_times=wait-times > context = radio > callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> > idrecording = |iWQRM312 > accountcode=RADIO > hangtime=0 ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) (optional) > althangtime=0 ; alternate squelch tail > totime=170000 > idtime=0 > politeid=3000 > > idtalkover=|iWQRM312 > unlinkedct=ct1 ; unlinked courtesy tone (optional) default is none > ;remotect=ct3 > linkunkeyct=ct1 ; courtesy tone sent on link unkey > nolocallinkct=0 ; Send unlinkedct instead of linkedct if another local node is connected to this node (hosted on the same PC) > nounkeyct=0 ; Set to a 1 to eliminate courtesy tones and associated delays. > ;eannmode=1 ; Default: 1 = Say only node number on echolink connects > ; 2 = say phonetic call sign only on echolink connects > ; 3 = say phonetic call sign and node number on echolink connects > ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ; Default: Disabled. Execute a program you specify on connect. > ; passes 2 command line arguments to your program: > ; 1. node number in this stanza (us) > ; 2. node number being connected to us (them) > ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ; Default: Disabled. Execute a program you specify on disconnect. > ; passes 2 command line arguments to your program: > ; 1. node number in this stanza (us) > ; 2. node number being disconnected from us (them) > ;lnkactenable=0 ; Set to 1 to enable the link activity timer. Applicable to standard nodes only. > ;lnkacttime=1800 ; Link activity timer time in seconds. > ;lnkactmacro=*52 ; Function to execute when link activity timer expires. > ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ; Message to play when the link activity timer has 30 seconds left. > ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ; Inactivity timer for remote base nodes only (set to 0 to disable). > ;remote_timeout=3600 ; Session time out for remote base. (set to 0 to disable) > ;holdofftelem=0 > beaconing=0 > ? > > > > That what you asked? > > -- > Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook > KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: > >> In rpt. conf, somewhere near the top just under your node number. >> >> Simpleusb doesn't utilize as many resources, its my understanding, as usbradio. >> >> -Geoff/w5omr >> >> Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >> >>> Good question. How do I find out? >>> >>> -- >>> Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >>> KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 >>> >>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: >>> >>>> Which channel driver (chan_?) are you using? >>> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Thu Sep 12 12:35:14 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:35:14 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <9e933441-86e0-4307-82d7-e50029d0ea56@email.android.com> References: <5A70B37C-F9F6-4F52-9CCD-0059D3CABA4D@ple.org> <52305933.2040001@cogeco.ca> <80B34670-B925-4472-9692-60B46A306820@ple.org> <52309E27.5080209@kuggie.com> <657AC31609934FC08D547E3EF8FFBEFA@georgecPCOMVC> <605BDB62-97C3-4A32-A023-EEFB9E3EEBFB@bdboyle.com> <9e933441-86e0-4307-82d7-e50029d0ea56@email.android.com> Message-ID: it is more a function, i think, and this is based on my experiments, of how well the USB was executed on the motherboard, or whether it was done just 'good enough' to handle the predicted keyboard and mouse and probably not much else. i had the same problems when i migrated my 3 nodes off a toshiba laptop (!) onto an HP mini-tower, strangely enough. ran fine on the laptop. stuttering and drop outs on the HP, which was 4 years newer. put in a USB card on the bus rather than using the motherboard USB ports. has been working fine for the last 2 years. has to do with the priorities on the motherboard, speed at which the packets can be processed, bios to handle the device routines, etc. Add in the psychoacoustic effects...it's not as clear cut as to why or where the issue lies. but, consider that USB is a compromise design...you want real time industrial strength audio and control, i think Duuude may have some PRI boards still available which will do the trick...:) -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings... On Sep 12, 2013, at 0:12, "Robert A. Poff" wrote: > Meanwhile on my nodes, here we're running full DSP with URIs on 3 GHz P4's with 2GB (IBM Think Center SFF) of memory with no problems. > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and typing errors. > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From george at dyb.com Thu Sep 12 14:25:41 2013 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:25:41 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19C85F1D60D549A3BF9778B72353019A@georgecPCOMVC> just a thought. Maybe a line in drupal node 193 that warns that depending on the PC's USB handling the DSP may or may not work well. I know originally I figured that the "word' was 'better than 1200 mhz' CPU so the D201 and D945 boards would be fine, but because of this USB issue it isn't, not a big deal because I just extracted COS and PTT from the radio. But I will say that some of it may be the kernel's handling of things. Now I'm way above my pay grade here, but I did connect same USB fob to the same PC running Winders XP. Played steady tone out and it was fine and pure with no interruptions. Boot back to ACID (Limey does it too) and play out a tone (radio tune txvoice) and it had the interruptions. Maybe modifying the kernel options? I recall there being different options for various chipsets and so on, and USB is in there too... Back to my cave in Jersey... GeorgeC W2DB -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:48 PM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar That's USBradio which has the DSP stuff in it. If you can get COR and CTCSS detect out of your radio you are better off switching to simpleUSB. See http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/193 -- Tim :wq On Sep 11, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf > ? > ; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) > ; > > [29886] ; Change this to your assigned > node number > > rxchannel=Radio/usb29886 > duplex=2 > erxgain=-3 > etxgain=3 > ;controlstates=controlstates > scheduler=schedule29886 > morse=morse29886 > macro=macro29886 > functions=functions > phone_functions=functions > link_functions=functions > telemetry=telemetry > wait_times=wait-times > context = radio > callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> > idrecording = |iWQRM312 > accountcode=RADIO > hangtime=0 ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) > (optional) > althangtime=0 ; alternate squelch tail > totime=170000 > idtime=0 > politeid=3000 > > idtalkover=|iWQRM312 > unlinkedct=ct1 ; unlinked courtesy tone > (optional) default is none > ;remotect=ct3 > linkunkeyct=ct1 ; courtesy tone sent on link unkey > nolocallinkct=0 ; Send unlinkedct instead of > linkedct if another local node is connected to this node (hosted on the > same PC) > nounkeyct=0 ; Set to a 1 to eliminate courtesy > tones and associated delays. > ;eannmode=1 ; Default: 1 = Say only node > number on echolink connects > ; 2 = say phonetic call sign only on > echolink connects > ; 3 = say phonetic call sign and > node number on echolink connects > ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ; Default: Disabled. Execute a > program you specify on connect. > ; passes 2 command line arguments to > your program: > ; 1. node number in this stanza (us) > ; 2. node number being connected to > us (them) > ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ; Default: Disabled. Execute a > program you specify on disconnect. > ; passes 2 command line arguments to > your program: > ; 1. node number in this stanza (us) > ; 2. node number being disconnected > from us (them) > ;lnkactenable=0 ; Set to 1 to enable the link > activity timer. Applicable to standard nodes only. > ;lnkacttime=1800 ; Link activity timer time in > seconds. > ;lnkactmacro=*52 ; Function to execute when link > activity timer expires. > ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ; Message to play when the link > activity timer has 30 seconds left. > ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ; Inactivity timer for remote base > nodes only (set to 0 to disable). > ;remote_timeout=3600 ; Session time out for remote > base. (set to 0 to disable) > ;holdofftelem=0 > beaconing=0 > ? > > > > That what you asked? > > -- > Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook > KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: > >> In rpt. conf, somewhere near the top just under your node number. >> >> Simpleusb doesn't utilize as many resources, its my understanding, as >> usbradio. >> >> -Geoff/w5omr >> >> Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >> >>> Good question. How do I find out? >>> >>> -- >>> Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >>> KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 >>> >>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: >>> >>>> Which channel driver (chan_?) are you using? >>> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From N1XBM at amsat.org Thu Sep 12 19:50:18 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:50:18 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Lots of questions In-Reply-To: <132AFE93-8CC9-4B20-8A92-CE0093736A58@me.com> References: <132AFE93-8CC9-4B20-8A92-CE0093736A58@me.com> Message-ID: OK so echolink...check! What about using raspberry pi? I have a laptop I can dedicate, but the pi looks appealing. Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM On Sep 12, 2013 12:37 AM, "Tim Sawyer" wrote: > app_rpt has echolink built into it. See http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/56 > -- > Tim > :wq > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Robert Newberry wrote: > > I have a mastr ii repeater. I'd like to use app-rpt as the controller for > the repeater. I'd like to be able to run echolink off the repeater. I also > have a URI interface. I'd also like to after one repeater is on the air and > available on echolink be able to do the same thing to another repeater to > make a linked network via IP > > My questions are can echolink and app_rpt be run at the same time? At the > same time providing repeater control and echolink service. > > Has anyone had any success using a raspberry pi with app_rpt and a URI? I > have a laptop I could use, but the pi is an attractive solution. > > I'd also like to add I'm new to linux. I'm OK on computers and networking > I also work in land mobile radio so the RF end of it I'm good. > > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com Thu Sep 12 19:53:06 2013 From: rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com (Chuck Henderson) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:53:06 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar In-Reply-To: <19C85F1D60D549A3BF9778B72353019A@georgecPCOMVC> References: <19C85F1D60D549A3BF9778B72353019A@georgecPCOMVC> Message-ID: I just noticed this... >when it does that the system is at less than 35% CPU and still has about 3GB of RAM open (this is on a 4GB system) so I checked my atom d510mo system and it seems to always be at 1% CPU or less. So why is yours running 35%? You must have something other than the normal ACID install running to have it that high with a dual core 2+GHZ cpu. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:25 AM, George Csahanin wrote: > just a thought. Maybe a line in drupal node 193 that warns that depending on > the PC's USB handling the DSP may or may not work well. I know originally I > figured that the "word' was 'better than 1200 mhz' CPU so the D201 and D945 > boards would be fine, but because of this USB issue it isn't, not a big deal > because I just extracted COS and PTT from the radio. > > But I will say that some of it may be the kernel's handling of things. Now > I'm way above my pay grade here, but I did connect same USB fob to the same > PC running Winders XP. Played steady tone out and it was fine and pure with > no interruptions. Boot back to ACID (Limey does it too) and play out a tone > (radio tune txvoice) and it had the interruptions. Maybe modifying the > kernel options? I recall there being different options for various chipsets > and so on, and USB is in there too... > > Back to my cave in Jersey... > > GeorgeC > W2DB > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sawyer > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:48 PM > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org list > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio in app_rpt/Allstar > > That's USBradio which has the DSP stuff in it. If you can get COR and CTCSS > detect out of your radio you are better off switching to simpleUSB. > See http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/193 > -- > Tim > :wq > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: > >> /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf >> ? >> ; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) >> ; >> >> [29886] ; Change this to your assigned >> node number >> >> rxchannel=Radio/usb29886 >> duplex=2 >> erxgain=-3 >> etxgain=3 >> ;controlstates=controlstates >> scheduler=schedule29886 >> morse=morse29886 >> macro=macro29886 >> functions=functions >> phone_functions=functions >> link_functions=functions >> telemetry=telemetry >> wait_times=wait-times >> context = radio >> callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> >> idrecording = |iWQRM312 >> accountcode=RADIO >> hangtime=0 ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) >> (optional) >> althangtime=0 ; alternate squelch tail >> totime=170000 >> idtime=0 >> politeid=3000 >> >> idtalkover=|iWQRM312 >> unlinkedct=ct1 ; unlinked courtesy tone >> (optional) default is none >> ;remotect=ct3 >> linkunkeyct=ct1 ; courtesy tone sent on link unkey >> nolocallinkct=0 ; Send unlinkedct instead of >> linkedct if another local node is connected to this node (hosted on the same >> PC) >> nounkeyct=0 ; Set to a 1 to eliminate courtesy >> tones and associated delays. >> ;eannmode=1 ; Default: 1 = Say only node >> number on echolink connects >> ; 2 = say phonetic call sign only on >> echolink connects >> ; 3 = say phonetic call sign and >> node number on echolink connects >> ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ; Default: Disabled. Execute a >> program you specify on connect. >> ; passes 2 command line arguments to >> your program: >> ; 1. node number in this stanza (us) >> ; 2. node number being connected to >> us (them) >> ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ; Default: Disabled. Execute a >> program you specify on disconnect. >> ; passes 2 command line arguments to >> your program: >> ; 1. node number in this stanza (us) >> ; 2. node number being disconnected >> from us (them) >> ;lnkactenable=0 ; Set to 1 to enable the link >> activity timer. Applicable to standard nodes only. >> ;lnkacttime=1800 ; Link activity timer time in >> seconds. >> ;lnkactmacro=*52 ; Function to execute when link >> activity timer expires. >> ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ; Message to play when the link >> activity timer has 30 seconds left. >> ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ; Inactivity timer for remote base >> nodes only (set to 0 to disable). >> ;remote_timeout=3600 ; Session time out for remote >> base. (set to 0 to disable) >> ;holdofftelem=0 >> beaconing=0 >> ? >> >> >> >> That what you asked? >> >> -- >> Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >> KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 >> >> On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: >> >>> In rpt. conf, somewhere near the top just under your node number. >>> >>> Simpleusb doesn't utilize as many resources, its my understanding, as >>> usbradio. >>> >>> -Geoff/w5omr >>> >>> Andreas Pleschutznig wrote: >>> >>>> Good question. How do I find out? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >>>> KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 >>>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Geoff Edmonson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Which channel driver (chan_?) are you using? >>>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Thu Sep 12 20:04:57 2013 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:04:57 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Lots of questions In-Reply-To: References: <132AFE93-8CC9-4B20-8A92-CE0093736A58@me.com> Message-ID: <04CD4D41-ECE8-44B6-8303-0A68DAA26C88@bdboyle.com> popping the popcorn and sitting back...lol. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 5...small keyboard, big fingers...please forgive misspellings... On Sep 12, 2013, at 15:50, Robert Newberry wrote: > OK so echolink...check! > > What about using raspberry pi? I have a laptop I can dedicate, but the pi looks appealing. > > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > > On Sep 12, 2013 12:37 AM, "Tim Sawyer" wrote: >> app_rpt has echolink built into it. See http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/56 >> -- >> Tim >> :wq >> >> On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Robert Newberry wrote: >> >>> I have a mastr ii repeater. I'd like to use app-rpt as the controller for the repeater. I'd like to be able to run echolink off the repeater. I also have a URI interface. I'd also like to after one repeater is on the air and available on echolink be able to do the same thing to another repeater to make a linked network via IP >>> >>> My questions are can echolink and app_rpt be run at the same time? At the same time providing repeater control and echolink service. >>> >>> Has anyone had any success using a raspberry pi with app_rpt and a URI? I have a laptop I could use, but the pi is an attractive solution. >>> >>> I'd also like to add I'm new to linux. I'm OK on computers and networking I also work in land mobile radio so the RF end of it I'm good. >>> >>> Apparare Scientior >>> Paratus Communicare >>> -N1XBM >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From tim.sawyer at me.com Fri Sep 13 00:26:40 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:26:40 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Lots of questions In-Reply-To: <523248A5.3050306@bdboyle.com> References: <132AFE93-8CC9-4B20-8A92-CE0093736A58@me.com> <8D0FE88D-F163-4A3C-85ED-66CB3431BB56@me.com> <523248A5.3050306@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: <8DFB3653-11F8-4B62-8E52-858A0245272C@me.com> Better luck next time :-) -- Tim :wq On Sep 12, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > On 9/12/2013 5:44 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> In a word, no. >> -- > > Darn..didn't even finish the bag of Redenbacker's... > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From nessenj at jimsoffice.org Fri Sep 13 21:13:34 2013 From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:13:34 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] DMK Eng USB Devices Message-ID: Hi Gang, I have 2 of the DMK Engineering USB sound cards for app_rpt that I am looking to sell. Asking $55.00/each (includes shipping to the US). Please email me OFF LIST if you are interested. Thanks! Jim, K6JWN 2165 and others. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kenwood TKR-820 15-Pin Accessory Port http://www.repeater-builder.com/kenwood/tkr-n20-notes.html URI (USB Radio Interface) http://qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/voip/USB-FOB.pdf Thank you for your time and 73, Jowe WJ0WE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Mon Sep 16 14:09:17 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:09:17 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS high pass filter Message-ID: Does the software have the ability to act as a high pass filter? Or should I plan on a hardware solution on my repeater? Thank you Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nessenj at jimsoffice.org Mon Sep 16 14:22:32 2013 From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (James Nessen) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 07:22:32 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] DMK Eng USB Devices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The URI's have been sold. Thanks! Jim, K6JWN On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:13 PM, James Nessen wrote: > Hi Gang, > > I have 2 of the DMK Engineering USB sound cards for app_rpt that I am > looking to sell. Asking $55.00/each (includes shipping to the US). > Please email me OFF LIST if you are interested. > > Thanks! > > Jim, K6JWN > 2165 and others. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Mon Sep 16 15:08:26 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:08:26 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS high pass filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The software can do it. -- Tim :wq On Sep 16, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Robert Newberry wrote: > Does the software have the ability to act as a high pass filter? Or should I plan on a hardware solution on my repeater? > > Thank you > > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com Tue Sep 17 11:38:20 2013 From: bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com (Bill Hurlock) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:38:20 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Multi Node Voter questions Message-ID: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659508B@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> I need to put together a private node network that has 12 separate repeaters with 2 voting sites each. The systems are all co located on one rooftop. The voter paths will be over Ubiquity rocket IP networks. The questions are, 1. How many nodes can be run on a single server with each node containing 1 main TX/RX and 2 voting sites? 2. How do you config the nodes to not be part of the Allstar network? 3. Is there a recommended PC configuration for a server , i.e. CPU speed, Memory, etc.? Bill Hurlock CPCommunications 856-234-1661 Office 856-264-1010 Cell www.cpcomms.com WA2TQI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Tue Sep 17 14:13:11 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:13:11 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Multi Node Voter questions In-Reply-To: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659508B@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659508B@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Message-ID: <85404010-00EF-40E4-8615-D3818A364F0E@me.com> Questions 1 and 3 are related. I have no recommendation but my Intel D525 is supporting 11 RTCM's consisting of 6 repeaters. It also supports Allmon (asterisk manager) polling and a few cron jobs. Top shows 90 to 95% idle. Private networks are built with a) node numbers under 2000, b) no iax registration, c) no status reporting and d) the IP address of each of the other nodes is in the nodes stanza. -- Tim :wq On Sep 17, 2013, at 4:38 AM, Bill Hurlock wrote: > I need to put together a private node network that has 12 separate repeaters with 2 voting sites each. The systems are all co located on one rooftop. The voter paths will be over Ubiquity rocket IP networks. > The questions are, > 1. How many nodes can be run on a single server with each node containing 1 main TX/RX and 2 voting sites? > 2. How do you config the nodes to not be part of the Allstar network? > 3. Is there a recommended PC configuration for a server , i.e. CPU speed, Memory, etc.? > > Bill Hurlock > CPCommunications > 856-234-1661 Office > 856-264-1010 Cell > www.cpcomms.com > WA2TQI > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kj6qfs at gmail.com Tue Sep 17 15:06:00 2013 From: kj6qfs at gmail.com (Sam Skolfield) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:06:00 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Multi Node Voter questions In-Reply-To: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659508B@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659508B@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Message-ID: Correct me if I am wrong, but an app_rpt server can only handle one master timing source. Wouldn't that throw a wrench in the possibility of running multiple voted nodes on one server? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Bill Hurlock wrote: > I need to put together a private node network that has 12 separate > repeaters with 2 voting sites each. The systems are all co located on one > rooftop. The voter paths will be over Ubiquity rocket IP networks.**** > > The questions are, **** > > **1. **How many nodes can be run on a single server with each node > containing 1 main TX/RX and 2 voting sites?**** > > **2. **How do you config the nodes to not be part of the Allstar > network?**** > > **3. **Is there a recommended PC configuration for a server , i.e. > CPU speed, Memory, etc.?**** > > ** ** > > *Bill Hurlock* > > *CPCommunications***** > > *856-234-1661 Office***** > > *856-264-1010* * Cell***** > > *www.cpcomms.com* **** > > *WA2TQI***** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -- KJ6QFS Sam Skolfield -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Tue Sep 17 16:35:56 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:35:56 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Multi Node Voter questions In-Reply-To: References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659508B@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Message-ID: <05228BFC-24A5-4A11-B020-0B72B1E62DC6@me.com> One master can support one or more nodes, each node with one or more clients. The master must be on the node with the RTCM that is on the same ethernet segment as the server. Here's a sample config... [general] port = 667 password = xxxxxxx [2521] Blueridge = aaaa1,transmit buflen = 500 [2529] SanJuan = xxxx1,transmit buflen = 500 plfilter = yes [2531] Santiago-UHF = rxxxy1,transmit Lukens-UHF = rxxxy2,transmit Sunset-UHF = rxxxy3,transmit PV-UHF = rxxxy4,transmit TestUHF = rxxxy5,nodeemp buflen = 180 thresholds = 255,110=5 linger=15 txctcss = 136.5 txctcsslevel = 55 txtoctype = notone ;streams = 184.154.228.18:1667 ;streams = wd6awp.net:1667 plfilter = yes [2532] Santiago = yyy1,transmit Huntington = yyy2,master,transmit PV = yyy3 Woodfern = yyy4 TestBench = yyy5,transmit buflen = 200 thresholds = 255,110=5 linger=15 plfilter = yes -- Tim :wq On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Sam Skolfield wrote: > Correct me if I am wrong, but an app_rpt server can only handle one master timing source. Wouldn't that throw a wrench in the possibility of running multiple voted nodes on one server? > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Bill Hurlock wrote: > I need to put together a private node network that has 12 separate repeaters with 2 voting sites each. The systems are all co located on one rooftop. The voter paths will be over Ubiquity rocket IP networks. > > The questions are, > > 1. How many nodes can be run on a single server with each node containing 1 main TX/RX and 2 voting sites? > > 2. How do you config the nodes to not be part of the Allstar network? > > 3. Is there a recommended PC configuration for a server , i.e. CPU speed, Memory, etc.? > > > > Bill Hurlock > > CPCommunications > > 856-234-1661 Office > > 856-264-1010 Cell > > www.cpcomms.com > > WA2TQI > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > -- > KJ6QFS > Sam Skolfield > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com Tue Sep 17 16:42:21 2013 From: bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com (Bill Hurlock) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:42:21 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Multi Node Voter questions In-Reply-To: <85404010-00EF-40E4-8615-D3818A364F0E@me.com> References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659508B@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> <85404010-00EF-40E4-8615-D3818A364F0E@me.com> Message-ID: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659547F@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Couple questions. 1. In the Voter.conf file stanza. How do I handle the port= # as it relates to each of the nodes RTCMs. I assume they all stay on 667 and the login is based on the RTCM's naming convention i.e. sys1,sys2..... as to what node it becomes associated with as shown below. 2. As long as everything is on the same private LAN than I only need ONE Master for all nodes on that server correct? 3. I'm assuming as long as I'm connected to the same private network, I can still use IAXrpt to connect to each of the nodes as long as I list the correct IP addr in the Host field in IAXrtp and the correct user name and REM out the register- statement. 4. Your Allmon would run off of a small Apachie server running somewhere on the private system. I'm sure I'll have a couple more questions. I just read your second reply and note that you have another Master in the 2532 node. I assume that is on a different LAN segment then the other nodes. [general] port = 667 buflen =180 password =xxxx [1998] Main Site = sys1,master,transmit Remote 1 = sys2 Remote 2 = sys3 [1999] Main Site = sys4,transmit Remote 1 = sys5 Remote 2 = sys6 Bill Hurlock From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer at me.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:13 AM To: Bill Hurlock Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Multi Node Voter questions Questions 1 and 3 are related. I have no recommendation but my Intel D525 is supporting 11 RTCM's consisting of 6 repeaters. It also supports Allmon (asterisk manager) polling and a few cron jobs. Top shows 90 to 95% idle. Private networks are built with a) node numbers under 2000, b) no iax registration, c) no status reporting and d) the IP address of each of the other nodes is in the nodes stanza. -- Tim :wq On Sep 17, 2013, at 4:38 AM, Bill Hurlock > wrote: I need to put together a private node network that has 12 separate repeaters with 2 voting sites each. The systems are all co located on one rooftop. The voter paths will be over Ubiquity rocket IP networks. The questions are, 1. How many nodes can be run on a single server with each node containing 1 main TX/RX and 2 voting sites? 2. How do you config the nodes to not be part of the Allstar network? 3. Is there a recommended PC configuration for a server , i.e. CPU speed, Memory, etc.? Bill Hurlock CPCommunications 856-234-1661 Office 856-264-1010 Cell www.cpcomms.com WA2TQI _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb2ear at kb2ear.net Tue Sep 17 17:30:20 2013 From: kb2ear at kb2ear.net (Scott Weis) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:30:20 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Multi Node Voter questions In-Reply-To: <05228BFC-24A5-4A11-B020-0B72B1E62DC6@me.com> References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B841659508B@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> <05228BFC-24A5-4A11-B020-0B72B1E62DC6@me.com> Message-ID: <002701ceb3cb$95b03850$c110a8f0$@net> And you should be able to share the same GPS for all RTCMs that are co-located at the same sites. From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:36 PM To: Sam Skolfield Cc: Bill Hurlock; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Multi Node Voter questions One master can support one or more nodes, each node with one or more clients. The master must be on the node with the RTCM that is on the same ethernet segment as the server. Here's a sample config... [general] port = 667 password = xxxxxxx [2521] Blueridge = aaaa1,transmit buflen = 500 [2529] SanJuan = xxxx1,transmit buflen = 500 plfilter = yes [2531] Santiago-UHF = rxxxy1,transmit Lukens-UHF = rxxxy2,transmit Sunset-UHF = rxxxy3,transmit PV-UHF = rxxxy4,transmit TestUHF = rxxxy5,nodeemp buflen = 180 thresholds = 255,110=5 linger=15 txctcss = 136.5 txctcsslevel = 55 txtoctype = notone ;streams = 184.154.228.18:1667 ;streams = wd6awp.net:1667 plfilter = yes [2532] Santiago = yyy1,transmit Huntington = yyy2,master,transmit PV = yyy3 Woodfern = yyy4 TestBench = yyy5,transmit buflen = 200 thresholds = 255,110=5 linger=15 plfilter = yes -- Tim :wq On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Sam Skolfield wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but an app_rpt server can only handle one master timing source. Wouldn't that throw a wrench in the possibility of running multiple voted nodes on one server? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Bill Hurlock wrote: I need to put together a private node network that has 12 separate repeaters with 2 voting sites each. The systems are all co located on one rooftop. The voter paths will be over Ubiquity rocket IP networks. The questions are, 1. How many nodes can be run on a single server with each node containing 1 main TX/RX and 2 voting sites? 2. How do you config the nodes to not be part of the Allstar network? 3. Is there a recommended PC configuration for a server , i.e. CPU speed, Memory, etc.? Bill Hurlock CPCommunications 856-234-1661 Office 856-264-1010 Cell www.cpcomms.com WA2TQI _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- KJ6QFS Sam Skolfield _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cypresstower at yahoo.com Tue Sep 17 19:21:48 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] I link commands Message-ID: <1379445708.23647.YahooMailNeo@web163603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Knowingly, the following is found?in the app_rpt.c?under ilink cmdc:?? * 200 thru 215 - (Send DTMF 0-9,*,#,A-D) (200=0, 201=1, 210=*, etc) Kindly, could?anyone elaborate as to what is the idea behind these functions? 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" Private networks are built with a) node numbers under 2000, b) no iax registration, c) no status reporting and d) the IP address of each of the other nodes is in the nodes stanza." Bill Hurlock wrote: >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Poff WB3AWJ) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] IAXrtp setup for multiple nodes on one server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <401068760.4675841.1379449003640.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Wouldn't you do something like this (?) : In iax.conf : [iaxRpt_1] secret=foo_bar type=friend host=dynamic disallow=alliax.conf : iax.conf : [iaxRpt_1] secret=foo_baiax.conf : [iaxRpt_1] secret=foo_bar type=friend host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=host context=radio-gui_1 requirecalltoken=no jbenable=yes [iaxRpt_2] secret=bar_foo type=friend host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=host context=radio-gui_2 requirecalltoken=no jbenable=yes iax.conf : [iaxRpt_1] secret=foo_bar type=friend host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=hostiax.conf : [iaxRpt_1] secret=foo_bar type=friend host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=host context=radio-gui_1 requirecalltoken=no jbenable=yes [iaxRpt_2] secret=bar_foo type=friend host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=host context=radio-gui_2 requirecalltoken=no jbenable=yes iax.conf : [iaxRpt_1] secret=foo_bar type=friend host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=host context=radio-gui_1 requirecalltoken=no jbenable=yes [iaxRpt_2] secret=bar_foo type=friend host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=host context=radio-gui_2 requirecalltoken=no jbenable=yes extensions.conf : [radio-gui_1] exten => 27783,1,rpt(27783|X) [radio-gui_2] exten => 27826,1,rpt(27826|X) extensions.conf : allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=host context=radio-gui_1 requirecalltoken=no jbenable=yes [iaxRpt_2] secret=bar_foo type=friend host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=gsm allow=g726aal2 codecpriority=host context=radio-gui_2 requirecalltoken=no jbenable=yes In extensions.conf : [radio-gui_1] exten => 27783,1,rpt(27783|X) [radio-gui_2] exten => 27826,1,rpt(27826|X) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com Tue Sep 17 20:35:07 2013 From: bill.hurlock at cpcomms.com (Bill Hurlock) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:35:07 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] IAXrtp setup for multiple nodes on one server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416595895@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> I believe what he was saying is that you don't want to register IAX with allstar.org and you don't want to enable node status reports to Allstar.org. This has nothing to do with being able to use IAX on a private node. Bill Hurlock From: Jeff Carrier [mailto:k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:03 PM To: Geoff Edmonson Cc: Bill Hurlock; app_rpt mailing list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] IAXrtp setup for multiple nodes on one server http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/iaxrpt On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Geoff Edmonson > wrote: In fact... " Private networks are built with a) node numbers under 2000, b) no iax registration, c) no status reporting and d) the IP address of each of the other nodes is in the nodes stanza." Bill Hurlock > wrote: I have 2 nodes running on one server. How do I configure IAXrpt to be directed to the right node on the server. One node is 1989 and the other 1990. Bill Hurlock CPCommunications 856-234-1661 Office 856-264-1010 Cell www.cpcomms.com WA2TQI _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com Tue Sep 17 20:45:24 2013 From: k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Carrier) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:45:24 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] IAXrtp setup for multiple nodes on one server In-Reply-To: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416595895@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416595895@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Message-ID: You are correct. Your node(s) will still use IAX they just won't register with the allstar server on the WAN. You "should" have at least one public node on the server because of eula and terms of service for the allstar system. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Bill Hurlock wrote: > I believe what he was saying is that you don?t want to register IAX with > allstar.org and you don?t want to enable node status reports to > Allstar.org. This has nothing to do with being able to use IAX on a private > node.**** > > ** ** > > *Bill Hurlock* > > ** ** > > *From:* Jeff Carrier [mailto:k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:03 PM > *To:* Geoff Edmonson > *Cc:* Bill Hurlock; app_rpt mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] IAXrtp setup for multiple nodes on one > server**** > > ** ** > > http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/iaxrpt**** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Geoff Edmonson > wrote:**** > > In fact... > > " Private networks are built with a) node numbers under 2000, b) no iax > registration, c) no status reporting and d) the IP address of each of the > other nodes is in the nodes stanza." > > > > > Bill Hurlock wrote:**** > > I have 2 nodes running on one server. How do I configure IAXrpt to be > directed to the right node on the server. One node is 1989 and the other > 1990.**** > > **** > > *Bill Hurlock***** > > *CPCommunications***** > > *856-234-1661 Office***** > > *856-264-1010* * Cell***** > > *www.cpcomms.com* **** > > *WA2TQI***** > > **** > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users**** > > ** ** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From brett.friermood at gmail.com Wed Sep 18 00:04:11 2013 From: brett.friermood at gmail.com (Brett Friermood) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:04:11 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] I link commands In-Reply-To: <1379445708.23647.YahooMailNeo@web163603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1379445708.23647.YahooMailNeo@web163603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I believe those send actual DTMF tones. ilink,200 sends an actual DTMF "0" ...up thru... ilink,209 sends an actual DTMF "9" And then incrementing through *,#,A,B,C Ending with ilink,215 sending an actual DTMF "D" Brett KQ9N On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Johnny Keeker wrote: > Knowingly, the following is found in the app_rpt.c under ilink cmdc: > * 200 thru 215 - (Send DTMF 0-9,*,#,A-D) (200=0, 201=1, 210=*, etc) > Kindly, could anyone elaborate as to what is the idea behind these > functions? > 'google hasn't been very friendly' > JK > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From tim.sawyer at me.com Wed Sep 18 03:17:20 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:17:20 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] IAXrtp setup for multiple nodes on one server In-Reply-To: References: <8F656C03689E074C9EE70EE3343E4B8416595895@CPNYMAIL2.cpcomm.int> Message-ID: Could you show us where that eula is please. -- Tim :wq On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Jeff Carrier wrote: > You "should" have at least one public node on the server because of eula and terms of service for the allstar system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kc7mrq at bresnan.net Wed Sep 18 20:00:53 2013 From: kc7mrq at bresnan.net (Corey Badgley) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:00:53 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI PTT issue Message-ID: <523A0675.3080605@bresnan.net> I have an URI on port three of an SCOM 7330 controller. Everything works perfectly unless power goes out and the node server reboots. The URI keys the controller while the computer boots and stays keyed until one of the following occurs: 1. Audio from another node is received. 2. Telemetry is broadcasted. ( I usually have telemetry turned off) 3. Send a command to un-key the PTT. 4. Enter echo mode within radio-tune-menu and my audio is rebroadcasted. Is there a way to toggle the URI PTT upon a reboot or start-up to ensure its logic is in the correct state? Have a good day, Corey From keith at goobie.org Wed Sep 18 20:05:05 2013 From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:05:05 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI PTT issue In-Reply-To: <523A0675.3080605@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Why not program the SCOM to use an inverted PTT signal and program the usbradio.conf to use an inverted signal for PTT. That should deal with the re-boot issue. Keith On 9/18/13 4:00 PM, "Corey Badgley" wrote: > I have an URI on port three of an SCOM 7330 controller. Everything works > perfectly unless power goes out and the node server reboots. The URI > keys the controller while the computer boots and stays keyed until one > of the following occurs: > > 1. Audio from another node is received. > 2. Telemetry is broadcasted. ( I usually have telemetry turned off) > 3. Send a command to un-key the PTT. > 4. Enter echo mode within radio-tune-menu and my audio is rebroadcasted. > > Is there a way to toggle the URI PTT upon a reboot or start-up to ensure > its logic is in the correct state? > > > Have a good day, > > Corey > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- keith at goobie.org Keith Goobie Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA From tim.sawyer at me.com Thu Sep 19 00:28:26 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:28:26 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI PTT issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also be sure the PTT-2-COR line is pulled up. -- Tim :wq On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Keith Goobie wrote: > Why not program the SCOM to use an inverted PTT signal and program the > usbradio.conf to use an inverted signal for PTT. That should deal with the > re-boot issue. > > Keith > > > On 9/18/13 4:00 PM, "Corey Badgley" wrote: > >> I have an URI on port three of an SCOM 7330 controller. Everything works >> perfectly unless power goes out and the node server reboots. The URI >> keys the controller while the computer boots and stays keyed until one >> of the following occurs: >> >> 1. Audio from another node is received. >> 2. Telemetry is broadcasted. ( I usually have telemetry turned off) >> 3. Send a command to un-key the PTT. >> 4. Enter echo mode within radio-tune-menu and my audio is rebroadcasted. >> >> Is there a way to toggle the URI PTT upon a reboot or start-up to ensure >> its logic is in the correct state? >> >> >> Have a good day, >> >> Corey >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -- > keith at goobie.org > Keith Goobie > Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From kuggie at kuggie.com Thu Sep 19 01:49:38 2013 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:49:38 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI PTT issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <523A5832.7080809@kuggie.com> Or, consider a different radio interface - one that doesn't let the PTT happen unless flashy-flashy is going on... http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/usb-rim.html Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in this product - however, I did help design it. Kevin Custer - WJ8G On 9/18/2013 4:05 PM, Keith Goobie wrote: > Why not program the SCOM to use an inverted PTT signal and program the > usbradio.conf to use an inverted signal for PTT. That should deal with the > re-boot issue. > > Keith > > > On 9/18/13 4:00 PM, "Corey Badgley" wrote: > >> I have an URI on port three of an SCOM 7330 controller. Everything works >> perfectly unless power goes out and the node server reboots. The URI >> keys the controller while the computer boots and stays keyed until one >> of the following occurs: >> >> 1. Audio from another node is received. >> 2. Telemetry is broadcasted. ( I usually have telemetry turned off) >> 3. Send a command to un-key the PTT. >> 4. Enter echo mode within radio-tune-menu and my audio is rebroadcasted. >> >> Is there a way to toggle the URI PTT upon a reboot or start-up to ensure >> its logic is in the correct state? >> >> >> Have a good day, >> >> Corey From keith at goobie.org Thu Sep 19 12:47:04 2013 From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:47:04 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] RELAXED RADIO parms Message-ID: Good morning All. I am looking for the message that Jim WB6NIL put out there that had to do with modifying the dsp.c code so that it did not incorporate the RELAXED_RADIO parameters. One parameter is the length of time that a DTMF signal must be present before it is determined not to be a false signal. [root at Server6 main]# diff ?dsp.c.default ?dsp.c >> 165c165,166 >> < #define DTMF_TO_TOTAL_ENERGY ? ?((digitmode & DSP_DIGITMODE_RELAXDTMF) ? >> 26.0 : 42.0) >> --- > #define DTMF_TO_TOTAL_ENERGY ? ?((digitmode & DSP_DIGITMODE_RELAXDTMF) ? 38.0 : 42.0) ?/* CAH changed 26 to 38 */ This change when implemented, did eliminate a noticeable number of audio pops associated with DTMF false-ing. The message from Jim spoke to bypassing the RELAXED parameters in total. I am going through the archives and I have not found it yet. Thanks in advance. Keith -- keith at goobie.org Keith Goobie Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dshaw at ke6upi.com Thu Sep 19 14:13:42 2013 From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 07:13:42 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] RELAXED RADIO parms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: look for: Post Date 6/13/12 Subject RTCM falsing DTMF Please read it all !!!! David On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Keith Goobie wrote: > Good morning All. > > I am looking for the message that Jim WB6NIL put out there that had to do > with modifying the dsp.c code so that it did not incorporate the > RELAXED_RADIO parameters. > > One parameter is the length of time that a DTMF signal must be present > before it is determined not to be a false signal. > [root at Server6 main]# diff dsp.c.default dsp.c > > 165c165,166 > < #define DTMF_TO_TOTAL_ENERGY ((digitmode & DSP_DIGITMODE_RELAXDTMF) ? > 26.0 : 42.0) > --- > > > #define DTMF_TO_TOTAL_ENERGY ((digitmode & DSP_DIGITMODE_RELAXDTMF) ? > 38.0 : 42.0) /* CAH changed 26 to 38 */ > > This change when implemented, did eliminate a noticeable number of audio > pops associated with DTMF false-ing. > > The message from Jim spoke to bypassing the RELAXED parameters in total. > > I am going through the archives and I have not found it yet. > > Thanks in advance. > > Keith > > -- > keith at goobie.org > Keith Goobie > Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Keith On 9/19/13 10:13 AM, "David KE6UPI" wrote: > look for: > > Post Date 6/13/12 > Subject?RTCM falsing DTMF > > Please read it all !!!! > > David > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Keith Goobie wrote: >> Good morning All. >> >> I am looking for the message that Jim WB6NIL put out there that had to do >> with modifying the dsp.c code so that it did not incorporate the >> RELAXED_RADIO parameters. >> >> One parameter is the length of time that a DTMF signal must be present before >> it is determined not to be a false signal. ? >> [root at Server6 main]# diff ?dsp.c.default ?dsp.c >>>> 165c165,166 >>>> < #define DTMF_TO_TOTAL_ENERGY ? ?((digitmode & DSP_DIGITMODE_RELAXDTMF) ? >>>> 26.0 : 42.0) >>>> --- >>> > #define DTMF_TO_TOTAL_ENERGY ? ?((digitmode & DSP_DIGITMODE_RELAXDTMF) ? >>> 38.0 : 42.0) ?/* CAH changed 26 to 38 */ >> >> This change when implemented, did eliminate a noticeable number of audio pops >> associated with DTMF false-ing. ? >> >> The message from Jim spoke to bypassing the RELAXED parameters in total. >> >> I am going through ?the archives and I have not found it yet. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Keith -- keith at goobie.org Keith Goobie Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you do not see this activity, your server either has a broken internet connection, or a firewall rule issue, although typically as this is outbound it should not be an issue. The info presented may be cryptic, but it will validate that the node is doing updates. There may be a dns issue in play, and you can use nslookup to validate that. The latest Centos updates did do some hanky panky with the DNS config files ? check for a forwarders artifact that you may not have had before. Along the dns issue, check to make sure that ipv6 is not in play. While you are doing a snoop using tcpdump, you can also validate that you are in a nodes list published by the allstarlink server and it is downloaded about every ten minutes on average. In that file, you should see the info that the server has on your node. That file is rpt_extnodes and is located in the var/lib/asterisk folder. Can other nodes connect with you? I suspect that the response is no, but just checking. Keith VA3YC On 9/19/13 12:19 PM, "keith" wrote: > Good evening all, > > I have noticed that on the (https://allstarlink.org/nodelist.php) site I show > up as node 2498 in green but when I click onto the MB7IIP text I get the Node > 2498 is no longer in the database. I have made no changes on my LAN and the IP > of the node has been a static address since it was built. The ports on router > are configured and for a short time I even set the router to DMZ the nodes > address so no router interactio. > My node works fine. If I reboot it does take about an hour to authenticate but > once authenticated all works great. > > Any ideas please > > Kind Regards > > Keith Handscombe > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- keith at goobie.org Keith Goobie Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:49:28 -0400 > From: kb4fxc at inttek.net > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Zaptel on Debian Wheezy??? > > > Hi Everyone, > > Has anyone ported the Zaptel driver library to recent Linux kernels, > specifically, kernel rev 3.2.x? ....I'm working on Debian Wheezy. > > Thanks! > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb4fxc at inttek.net Thu Sep 19 19:38:45 2013 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 15:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Zaptel on Debian Wheezy??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jim, I realize that a lot has changed with Linux 3.X. But, the mapping from the old ioctl() kernel calls to the new compat_ioctl() or unlocked_ioctl() calls is pretty straight forward for many ioclt operations......I haven't carefully looked zaptel over as of yet. Since I only really need ztdummy and zttranscode, I was hoping a port would be simple--and, already tackled by someone else! I have concerns about trying to use the dahdi code in a production environment at this point, since it hasn't been as heavily tested (or am I wrong about this?). Thanks for your help- 73, David KB4FXC On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Jim Duuuude wrote: > Its not just a 'port'. 3.X COMPLETELY changed a lot of things, in particular > the ioctl() interface. POOP! > > Try using DAHDI with the patches that make it 'work' (see list archives for this info). > Its also somewhere on the SVN, I think. > > Jim > > > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:49:28 -0400 > > From: kb4fxc at inttek.net > > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Zaptel on Debian Wheezy??? > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Has anyone ported the Zaptel driver library to recent Linux kernels, > > specifically, kernel rev 3.2.x? ....I'm working on Debian Wheezy. > > > > Thanks! > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From kb4fxc at inttek.net Thu Sep 19 20:13:29 2013 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Zaptel on Debian Wheezy??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Correction: I just need zaptel.ko and ztdummy.ko, not zttranscode.ko. On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, David McGough wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I realize that a lot has changed with Linux 3.X. But, the mapping from > the old ioctl() kernel calls to the new compat_ioctl() or unlocked_ioctl() > calls is pretty straight forward for many ioclt operations......I haven't > carefully looked zaptel over as of yet. Since I only really need ztdummy > and zttranscode, I was hoping a port would be simple--and, already tackled > by someone else! > > I have concerns about trying to use the dahdi code in a production > environment at this point, since it hasn't been as heavily tested (or am I > wrong about this?). > > Thanks for your help- > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Jim Duuuude wrote: > > > Its not just a 'port'. 3.X COMPLETELY changed a lot of things, in particular > > the ioctl() interface. POOP! > > > > Try using DAHDI with the patches that make it 'work' (see list archives for this info). > > Its also somewhere on the SVN, I think. > > > > Jim > > > > > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:49:28 -0400 > > > From: kb4fxc at inttek.net > > > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Zaptel on Debian Wheezy??? > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > Has anyone ported the Zaptel driver library to recent Linux kernels, > > > specifically, kernel rev 3.2.x? ....I'm working on Debian Wheezy. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > From n8ohu at yahoo.com Fri Sep 20 00:31:37 2013 From: n8ohu at yahoo.com (Matthew) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:31:37 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node 2498 is no longer in the database Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keith at goobie.org Fri Sep 20 00:58:09 2013 From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:58:09 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node 2498 is no longer in the database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Matthew As I pointed out to Keith in the UK, there are a number of networking things that you should look at. * validate that updates are going from your node to the allstarlink site * check that your node is listed in rpt_extnodes * verify that your dns info is correct and the queries are answered quickly. * check that the Internet is running correctly. Keith On 9/19/13 8:31 PM, "Matthew" wrote: > Keith, > > I'm not sure of the cause, but I've had it happen with my own nodes from time > to time; most recently I noticed it happen wih node 29822. > > Matthew Pitts > N8OHU > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject:[App_rpt-users] Node 2498 is no longer in the database > From :keith > Date :Thu, 19-Sep-2013 12:19 > To :app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > CC : > > Good evening all, > > I have noticed that on the (https://allstarlink.org/nodelist.php) site I show > up as node 2498 in green but when I click onto the MB7IIP text I get the Node > 2498 is no longer in the database. I have made no changes on my LAN and the IP > of the node has been a static address since it was built. The ports on router > are configured and for a short time I even set the router to DMZ the nodes > address so no router interactio. > My node works fine. If I reboot it does take about an hour to authenticate but > once authenticated all works great. > > Any ideas please > > Kind Regards > > Keith Handscombe > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- keith at goobie.org Keith Goobie Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From specialq.que at ntlworld.com Fri Sep 20 18:12:32 2013 From: specialq.que at ntlworld.com (DougH) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:12:32 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Telephone Portal? Message-ID: <6778B992C697456AABEA0DC16BEC6D0B@DougLaptop2> Hello, Trying to use the UK portal, enter node number and #, system says invalid selection, asks for number again then after entering once more, says there is a problem and discconnects. What am I not doing correctly? Doug - GB3KE 2253 From markjohnston73 at gmail.com Fri Sep 20 22:05:57 2013 From: markjohnston73 at gmail.com (Mark Johnston) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:05:57 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base Memories Message-ID: Hello everyone, I have finally got the ic-706 remote base partially working I can scan freq, move up in freq, and read status, Now that the commands also the init=freq..... works when I connect so it can set the frequency. just fine, yet if I do *1444*000*0... etc does not work If I do *0001 for memory 001 etc, I get 'memory not found' which the memory is in the rpt.conf [memory] ;Syntax : CC=RRR.RRR,PPP.P,AAAAA ; C=Channel Number ; R=RX Frequency ; P=PL Frequency ; A=Attributes ; ;Attributes : a=AM b=LSB f=FM u=USB ; l=Low Power m=Medium Power h=High Power ; -=Minus TX Offset s=Simplex +=Plus TX Offset ; t=TX PL on r=RX PL on ; 004=147.700,123.0,fshrt 005=147.100,123.0,fshtt 006=003.860,100.0,bshrt init=003.980,100.0,bshrt ;Set to this on startup This is just above the macro section below the functions-remote... At the end of the file I tried[memory] [memory] 001=147.700,123.0,fshrt 002=147.100,123.0,fshtt 003=003.860,100.0,bshrt None of these work, always says 'memory not found' Any ideas? I know I am getting close to making this work! 0=remote,1 ; Retrieve Memory 1=remote,2 Mark KC7DMF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wb3awj at comcast.net Sat Sep 21 02:21:05 2013 From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 22:21:05 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base Memories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5e28de40-69c0-40b7-9e5b-c0c45a2ec10a@email.android.com> Try numbering your memories from 00 to 99 instead of three digits. Mark Johnston wrote: >Hello everyone, > >I have finally got the ic-706 remote base partially working >I can scan freq, move up in freq, and read status, Now that the >commands >also the init=freq..... works when I connect so it can set the >frequency. >just fine, yet if I do *1444*000*0... etc does not work >If I do *0001 for memory 001 etc, I get 'memory not found' > >which the memory is in the rpt.conf > >[memory] > ;Syntax : CC=RRR.RRR,PPP.P,AAAAA > ; C=Channel Number > ; R=RX Frequency > ; P=PL Frequency > ; A=Attributes > ; > ;Attributes : a=AM b=LSB f=FM u=USB > ; l=Low Power m=Medium Power h=High Power > ; -=Minus TX Offset s=Simplex +=Plus TX Offset > ; t=TX PL on r=RX PL on > ; >004=147.700,123.0,fshrt >005=147.100,123.0,fshtt >006=003.860,100.0,bshrt >init=003.980,100.0,bshrt ;Set to this on startup > > >This is just above the macro section below the functions-remote... > >At the end of the file I tried[memory] > >[memory] >001=147.700,123.0,fshrt >002=147.100,123.0,fshtt >003=003.860,100.0,bshrt > > >None of these work, always says 'memory not found' > >Any ideas? I know I am getting close to making this work! > >0=remote,1 ; Retrieve Memory >1=remote,2 > >Mark KC7DMF > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and typing errors. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markjohnston73 at gmail.com Sat Sep 21 03:13:16 2013 From: markjohnston73 at gmail.com (Mark Johnston) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:13:16 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base Memories In-Reply-To: <5e28de40-69c0-40b7-9e5b-c0c45a2ec10a@email.android.com> References: <5e28de40-69c0-40b7-9e5b-c0c45a2ec10a@email.android.com> Message-ID: I tried that, does not work, says cannot find memory still however when I did *006 it says invalid frequency, and switches to VFO A from B or memory if I manually put it there... 06 I deleted as a memory channel, and find no ref to in the rest of the file... as a command .... very interesting for sure! anyone have an idea? I know i am so close to making this work. "Got Root?" How many software engineers does it take to change a light bulb? *None. It's a hardware problem.* Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who it's friends are. WINDOWS: Will Install Needless Data On Whole System MICROSOFT: Most Intelligent Customers Realize Our Software Only Fools Teenagers. A ntennas P oorly P laced L acks E ngineering The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s?. *"I get paid to support Windows, I use Linux to get work done."* On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Robert A. Poff wrote: > Try numbering your memories from 00 to 99 instead of three digits. > > > > Mark Johnston wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I have finally got the ic-706 remote base partially working >> I can scan freq, move up in freq, and read status, Now that the commands >> also the init=freq..... works when I connect so it can set the frequency. >> just fine, yet if I do *1444*000*0... etc does not work >> If I do *0001 for memory 001 etc, I get 'memory not found' >> >> which the memory is in the rpt.conf >> >> [memory] >> ;Syntax : CC=RRR.RRR,PPP.P,AAAAA >> ; C=Channel Number >> ; R=RX Frequency >> ; P=PL Frequency >> ; A=Attributes >> ; >> ;Attributes : a=AM b=LSB f=FM u=USB >> ; l=Low Power m=Medium Power h=High Power >> ; -=Minus TX Offset s=Simplex +=Plus TX Offset >> ; t=TX PL on r=RX PL on >> ; >> 004=147.700,123.0,fshrt >> 005=147.100,123.0,fshtt >> 006=003.860,100.0,bshrt >> init=003.980,100.0,bshrt ;Set to this on startup >> >> >> This is just above the macro section below the functions-remote... >> >> At the end of the file I tried[memory] >> >> [memory] >> 001=147.700,123.0,fshrt >> 002=147.100,123.0,fshtt >> 003=003.860,100.0,bshrt >> >> >> None of these work, always says 'memory not found' >> >> Any ideas? I know I am getting close to making this work! >> >> 0=remote,1 ; Retrieve Memory >> 1=remote,2 >> >> Mark KC7DMF >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> ** -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and > typing errors.html> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kj6ko at innercite.com Sat Sep 21 15:55:44 2013 From: kj6ko at innercite.com (KJ6KO) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 08:55:44 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fw: remote_timeout Message-ID: Subject: remote_timeout In rpt.conf, is the "remote_timeout=xxx" for the RX timeout in case something on the system hangs up and will timeout after the time entered? In other words, the opposite of "totime=xxx" which is the TX timeout? 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URL: From andy at ple.org Sun Sep 22 00:22:34 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:22:34 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio In-Reply-To: <1378951674.30020.YahooMailNeo@web141506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1378951674.30020.YahooMailNeo@web141506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Though I should report back. I believe I fixed my distorted audio problem, and while doing so found a minor bug in app_rpt.c Last week I needed to make some changes here and so I took the SSD I was using as the disk for the node out and replaced it with a real small 20GB hard disk. I know this is WAY too much, but that was the smaller one I had at home and so? So I re-installed the node, uploaded the config file, EXACTLY the way they were and the distorted audio is gone. Since the ONLY thing I changed in my hard way setup, and the bug I found in app_rpt has/had nothing to do with audio delivery, the kernel is the same, ? logical deduction dictates if you eliminate everything else the remaining difference is most likely the culprit. In my case a perfectly functioning SSD. The only thing I can imagine is that maybe it was too fast, maybe it triggered some SATA3 (6GHb/s) bug, or maybe the MB I have is not really happy with the fast SATA or, ? in any case, since I switched to to the real hard disk instead of the small SSD (which I has no real use for anyway, because its only a 40GB) the node works flawlessly. Thanks to everyone offering help, it really helps getting all those ideas, and maybe the folks that have distorted audio as well can look at their HD setup, maybe its something similar. -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Ryan Gross wrote: > Ran into this problem a while ago and was found the URI interface was the problem with similar symptoms. Is this happening in duplex or simplex with audio ? > > Ryan n3ssl > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since the ONLY thing I changed in my > hard way setup, and the bug I found in app_rpt has/had nothing to do with > audio delivery, the kernel is the same, ? logical deduction dictates if you > eliminate everything else the remaining difference is most likely the culprit. > In my case a perfectly functioning SSD. The only thing I can imagine is that > maybe it was too fast, maybe it triggered some SATA3 (6GHb/s) bug, or maybe > the MB I have is not really happy with the fast SATA or, ? in any case, since > I switched to to the real hard disk instead of the small SSD (which I has no > real use for anyway, because its only a 40GB) the node works flawlessly. > > Thanks to everyone offering help, it really helps getting all those ideas, and > maybe the folks that have distorted audio as well can look at their HD setup, > maybe its something similar. > -- > Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook > KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Ryan Gross wrote: > >> Ran into this problem a while ago and was found the URI interface was the >> problem with similar symptoms. Is this happening in duplex or simplex with >> audio ? >> >> Ryan n3ssl >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- keith at goobie.org Keith Goobie Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at ple.org Sun Sep 22 01:17:29 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:17:29 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Distorted audio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F90F2F5-3AB4-4927-8828-C6E8017E4F1A@ple.org> Hi Keith, The way this sounded like was as if the audio is was hacked into 20ms pieces and every other piece was missing. I am pretty sure it is the combination of the specific MB and the SSD that was not OK together. That was the first problem I had with this SSD, and I am sure each of the devices on its own is perfectly fine, just not together. -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Keith Goobie wrote: > Andreas > > Can you describe what the distortion sounded like. We are running an SSD here, but it has been good for us. > > Keith > > > On 9/21/13 8:22 PM, "Andreas Pleschutznig" wrote: > >> Though I should report back. I believe I fixed my distorted audio problem, and while doing so found a minor bug in app_rpt.c >> >> Last week I needed to make some changes here and so I took the SSD I was using as the disk for the node out and replaced it with a real small 20GB hard disk. I know this is WAY too much, but that was the smaller one I had at home and so? >> >> So I re-installed the node, uploaded the config file, EXACTLY the way they were and the distorted audio is gone. Since the ONLY thing I changed in my hard way setup, and the bug I found in app_rpt has/had nothing to do with audio delivery, the kernel is the same, ? logical deduction dictates if you eliminate everything else the remaining difference is most likely the culprit. In my case a perfectly functioning SSD. The only thing I can imagine is that maybe it was too fast, maybe it triggered some SATA3 (6GHb/s) bug, or maybe the MB I have is not really happy with the fast SATA or, ? in any case, since I switched to to the real hard disk instead of the small SSD (which I has no real use for anyway, because its only a 40GB) the node works flawlessly. >> >> Thanks to everyone offering help, it really helps getting all those ideas, and maybe the folks that have distorted audio as well can look at their HD setup, maybe its something similar. >> -- >> Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook >> KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 >> >> On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Ryan Gross wrote: >> >>> Ran into this problem a while ago and was found the URI interface was the problem with similar symptoms. Is this happening in duplex or simplex with audio ? >>> >>> Ryan n3ssl >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > -- > keith at goobie.org > Keith Goobie > Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4805 bytes Desc: not available URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Sun Sep 22 01:31:36 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert N. Newberry) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:31:36 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] allstar sysop Message-ID: <523E4878.1080507@gmail.com> What is the consensus? I already have an allstar account. I see to switch your account to a sysop it is non reversible. Should I create another account for my node with my call sign N1XBM/R for sysop purposes? -- Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 22 06:22:08 2013 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:22:08 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] allstar sysop In-Reply-To: <523E4878.1080507@gmail.com> References: <523E4878.1080507@gmail.com> Message-ID: Why? There?s no reason you can?t use your account for other purposes as well, i.e. dialing in on the phone or web transceiver. No need to create another one. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Sep 21, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Robert N. Newberry wrote: > What is the consensus? I already have an allstar account. I see to > switch your account to a sysop it is non reversible. Should I create > another account for my node with my call sign N1XBM/R for sysop purposes? > -- > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From zeppelin.1 at netzero.com Sun Sep 22 10:09:27 2013 From: zeppelin.1 at netzero.com (zeppelin.1 at netzero.com) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:09:27 GMT Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Echolink Message-ID: <20130922.060927.17552.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Hello to all, Running two un-equal callsign and node number, AllStar in 1 P.C. How do get 2nd callsign Echolink node to operate. 73, Anton/ KC2RQR IRLP node 4012 AllStar Node 29103 Echolink 361124 ____________________________________________________________ One Weird Trick Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you Qualify… http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/523ec22f40df5422f2030st03duc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k5tra at austin.rr.com Sun Sep 22 15:09:45 2013 From: k5tra at austin.rr.com (tom) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:09:45 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Echolink Message-ID: <001901ceb7a5$c5f6b650$51e422f0$@rr.com> Anton, You cannot run a second EchoLink node from the same IP address. Each requires a separate IP and must use a different call (like KC2RQR-R and KC2RQR-L). There is one way around the IP problem on a windows client by using a proxy server for one of the nodes. I don't know how to run EchoLink through a proxy from Allstar. Tom / k5TRA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From telesistant at hotmail.com Sun Sep 22 15:33:08 2013 From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:33:08 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Echolink In-Reply-To: <001901ceb7a5$c5f6b650$51e422f0$@rr.com> References: <001901ceb7a5$c5f6b650$51e422f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: chan_echolink is MORE then capable of running as many echolink nodes as you want, as long as your server has MULTIPLE public IP addresses. Since IP networking is MORE then capable of allowing multiple IP addresses on a single interface, we certainly did not want to limit users' ability to take advantage of this characteristic (unlike any other echolink implementation that I am aware of). Jim WB6NIL From: k5tra at austin.rr.com To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:09:45 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Echolink Anton, You cannot run a second EchoLink node from the same IP address. Each requires a separate IP and must use a different call (like KC2RQR-R and KC2RQR-L). There is one way around the IP problem on a windows client by using a proxy server for one of the nodes. I don?t know how to run EchoLink through a proxy from Allstar. Tom / k5TRA _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at dyb.com Sun Sep 22 18:31:56 2013 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:31:56 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Echolink References: <001901ceb7a5$c5f6b650$51e422f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Jim, how would one bind a second IP address to the different echolink nodes? I have zero intention of adding bad audio to my node, but real curious where that would get configured. Thanks GeorgeC W2DB 2360 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Duuuude To: tom ; app_rpt mailing list Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Echolink chan_echolink is MORE then capable of running as many echolink nodes as you want, as long as your server has MULTIPLE public IP addresses. Since IP networking is MORE then capable of allowing multiple IP addresses on a single interface, we certainly did not want to limit users' ability to take advantage of this characteristic (unlike any other echolink implementation that I am aware of). Jim WB6NIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: k5tra at austin.rr.com To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:09:45 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Echolink Anton, You cannot run a second EchoLink node from the same IP address. Each requires a separate IP and must use a different call (like KC2RQR-R and KC2RQR-L). There is one way around the IP problem on a windows client by using a proxy server for one of the nodes. I don?t know how to run EchoLink through a proxy from Allstar. Tom / k5TRA _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Tue Sep 24 15:25:05 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:25:05 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Getting there! Message-ID: OK so I got a node #, PC, repeater, URI, and I'm burning a ISO as we speak. >From my rudimentary understanding it looks like a lot of the node configuration is done online and the first time I update my PC I will need to do a manual update. So if I want to also use app_rpt as a controller I'm confused as to where I set the important stuff, such as: ID Time out timer Code to shut the transmitter off in the event something goes wrong. PL tones encode/decode I assume I must have to bring up a script and manually edit it? Any good write ups in the internet about this? I'm getting pretty excited about this. If I can get this one repeater on the air. I have many more repeater that I want to link together for a multicast system. I'm sure I'll have even more questions then. Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Tue Sep 24 16:15:33 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:15:33 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Getting there! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0015DCBD-F754-45E1-8847-0395EFE35040@me.com> Some of that can happen on the portal. On the menu look at Node... Node configuration. What you can't set there must be set up by editing the configurations files. The two files where the things you mention are /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf and whatever channel driver you use (/etc/asterisk/simpleusb.conf or /etc/asterisk/usbradio.conf). -- Tim :wq On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Robert Newberry wrote: > OK so I got a node #, PC, repeater, URI, and I'm burning a ISO as we speak. > > From my rudimentary understanding it looks like a lot of the node configuration is done online and the first time I update my PC I will need to do a manual update. > > So if I want to also use app_rpt as a controller I'm confused as to where I set the important stuff, such as: > > ID > Time out timer > Code to shut the transmitter off in the event something goes wrong. > PL tones encode/decode > > I assume I must have to bring up a script and manually edit it? Any good write ups in the internet about this? > > I'm getting pretty excited about this. If I can get this one repeater on the air. I have many more repeater that I want to link together for a multicast system. I'm sure I'll have even more questions then. > > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Tue Sep 24 21:09:15 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:09:15 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Getting there! In-Reply-To: <0015DCBD-F754-45E1-8847-0395EFE35040@me.com> References: <0015DCBD-F754-45E1-8847-0395EFE35040@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks Tim, I checked the allstar link site and checked the section you mentioned. I also read up on simpleusb and usbradio on ohnosec. I'm going to attempt a install tonight and see how it goes. Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM On Sep 24, 2013 12:15 PM, "Tim Sawyer" wrote: > Some of that can happen on the portal. On the menu look at Node... Node > configuration. What you can't set there must be set up by editing the > configurations files. The two files where the things you mention are > /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf and whatever channel driver you use > (/etc/asterisk/simpleusb.conf or /etc/asterisk/usbradio.conf). > -- > Tim > :wq > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Robert Newberry wrote: > > OK so I got a node #, PC, repeater, URI, and I'm burning a ISO as we speak. > > From my rudimentary understanding it looks like a lot of the node > configuration is done online and the first time I update my PC I will need > to do a manual update. > > So if I want to also use app_rpt as a controller I'm confused as to where > I set the important stuff, such as: > > ID > Time out timer > Code to shut the transmitter off in the event something goes wrong. > PL tones encode/decode > > I assume I must have to bring up a script and manually edit it? Any good > write ups in the internet about this? > > I'm getting pretty excited about this. If I can get this one repeater on > the air. I have many more repeater that I want to link together for a > multicast system. I'm sure I'll have even more questions then. > > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jedscoot at yahoo.com Tue Sep 24 22:09:35 2013 From: jedscoot at yahoo.com (Ian) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:09:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon+Lighttpd Message-ID: <1380060575.40443.YahooMailNeo@web172006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Hello, I have Allmon running with Lighttpd on my PI and I have noticed while connected to a remote node via [ ssh ] to monitor, I see continual [ remote manager connect; remote manager disconnect ] prompts after a connect to the remote node from Allmon when logged in as admin.? There is no indication that the connection is connecting/disconnecting so I'm guessing that I just haven't quite set things up properly. Any comments/suggestions most welcome. 73, Ian.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keith at goobie.org Tue Sep 24 22:11:50 2013 From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:11:50 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon+Lighttpd In-Reply-To: <1380060575.40443.YahooMailNeo@web172006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When allmon is active, it is constantly updating to the remote node. You will see a bundle of traffic. Keith On 9/24/13 6:09 PM, "Ian" wrote: > Hello, > > I have Allmon running with Lighttpd on my PI and I have noticed while > connected to a remote node via [ ssh ] to monitor, I see continual [ remote > manager connect; remote manager disconnect ] prompts after a connect to the > remote node from Allmon when logged in as admin. There is no indication that > the connection is connecting/disconnecting so I'm guessing that I just haven't > quite set things up properly. > Any comments/suggestions most welcome. > > 73, > Ian.. > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- keith at goobie.org Keith Goobie Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Wed Sep 25 01:07:26 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:07:26 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Getting there! In-Reply-To: References: <0015DCBD-F754-45E1-8847-0395EFE35040@me.com> Message-ID: Well software seems to installed without a hitch. The URI green light is flashing and I get a "test login" prompt. I assume this is where I type root for login and my password I created. So I guess next I need the radio connected and the levels set. Where can I read more about adding lines to definitions? I'm reading up on status reporting and adding two lines to /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf: Is this as simple as being logged in and entering that line and adding the info to the bottom of the file? Thank you Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Wed Sep 25 02:15:33 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert N. Newberry) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:15:33 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] some more progress Message-ID: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> So I was able to get manual download and now my login screen shows N1XBM/R. I also now show up on allstar link. I tried connecting to my node (radio not connected yet) with the web transceiver I hit connect and nothing. I tried hitting the number keys and nothing. I also tried an automatic download of my server config and that did not appear to work. It said my server should reboot when done and I did not get a reboot. So I guess I am making some progress here. I need to figure out the web transceiver and why I can not download my server config from the website. -- Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM From tim.sawyer at me.com Wed Sep 25 02:53:00 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:53:00 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon+Lighttpd In-Reply-To: <1380060575.40443.YahooMailNeo@web172006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1380060575.40443.YahooMailNeo@web172006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Allmon does continuously login to the manager to get node's status and then logout. The messages you see are normal Allmon operation. -- Tim :wq On Sep 24, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Ian wrote: > Hello, > > I have Allmon running with Lighttpd on my PI and I have noticed while connected to a remote node via [ ssh ] to monitor, I see continual [ remote manager connect; remote manager disconnect ] prompts after a connect to the remote node from Allmon when logged in as admin. There is no indication that the connection is connecting/disconnecting so I'm guessing that I just haven't quite set things up properly. > Any comments/suggestions most welcome. > > 73, > Ian.. > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Wed Sep 25 03:02:26 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:02:26 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] some more progress In-Reply-To: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> References: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: Make sure you can connect to some other node than your own to test the webtransceiver. It's kinda buggy and may not be working for you. If that's ok what you may have is poor nat-tranversal... meaning the webtransceiver has to connect to your public IP and thus traverse out of your router and then back into your router and to the node. Some routers don't do that well. Also make sure you have 4567, or whichever IAX port you are using forwarded to your node. Have someone connect to your node, just ask anyone here will be glad to try it. Remember, a node has to be on line for a long while before it learns all the IP address of the other nodes and before the other nodes learn about your IP. Sometimes that can take up to a half an hour. -- Tim :wq On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Robert N. Newberry wrote: > So I was able to get manual download and now my login screen shows > N1XBM/R. I also now show up on allstar link. I tried connecting to my > node (radio not connected yet) with the web transceiver I hit connect > and nothing. I tried hitting the number keys and nothing. I also tried > an automatic download of my server config and that did not appear to > work. It said my server should reboot when done and I did not get a reboot. > > So I guess I am making some progress here. I need to figure out the web > transceiver and why I can not download my server config from the website. > > > -- > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From petem001 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 25 03:04:45 2013 From: petem001 at hotmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:04:45 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] radio tune settings In-Reply-To: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> References: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have a 2 node setup on repeater, one for vhf and one for vhf. I run Acid and want to run the setup on a 64 bit machine. I have seen that Xipar will run on 64 bit arch. If I transfert my node to a xipar machine will have to retune my levels with radio tune menu or will I be able to transfert the info in the usbradio_tune_usbxxxxx.conf with xipar? From cypresstower at yahoo.com Wed Sep 25 03:32:48 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] radio tune settings In-Reply-To: References: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1380079968.40400.YahooMailNeo@web163604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> May not be of any help but, did you uncomment the displayconnects = yes in the /etc/asterisk/manager.conf and change it to no??? JK From: Pierre Martel To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:04 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] radio tune settings I have a 2 node setup on repeater, one for vhf and one for vhf. I run Acid and want to run the setup on a 64 bit machine. I have seen that Xipar will run on 64 bit arch. If I transfert my node to a xipar machine will have to retune my levels with radio tune menu or will I be able to transfert the info in the usbradio_tune_usbxxxxx.conf with xipar? _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cypresstower at yahoo.com Wed Sep 25 03:38:41 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] some more progress In-Reply-To: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> References: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1380080321.19098.YahooMailNeo@web163603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The nodesetup.sh script may help???? try it from your root prompt [root at N1XBM ~]#nodesetup.sh?? follow the prompts From: Robert N. Newberry To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] some more progress So I was able to get manual download and now my login screen shows N1XBM/R. I also now show up on allstar link. I tried connecting to my node (radio not connected yet) with the web transceiver I hit connect and nothing. I tried hitting the number keys and nothing. I also tried an automatic download of my server config and that did not appear to work. It said my server should reboot when done and I did not get a reboot. So I guess I am making some progress here. I need to figure out the web transceiver and why I can not download my server config from the website. -- Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cypresstower at yahoo.com Wed Sep 25 03:39:56 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon+Lighttpd In-Reply-To: <1380060575.40443.YahooMailNeo@web172006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1380060575.40443.YahooMailNeo@web172006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1380080396.84057.YahooMailNeo@web163606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> May not be of any help but, did you uncomment the displayconnects = yes in the /etc/asterisk/manager.conf and change it to no??? JK From: Ian To: "App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:09 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon+Lighttpd Hello, I have Allmon running with Lighttpd on my PI and I have noticed while connected to a remote node via [ ssh ] to monitor, I see continual [ remote manager connect; remote manager disconnect ] prompts after a connect to the remote node from Allmon when logged in as admin.? There is no indication that the connection is connecting/disconnecting so I'm guessing that I just haven't quite set things up properly. Any comments/suggestions most welcome. 73, Ian.. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cypresstower at yahoo.com Wed Sep 25 03:45:24 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] radio tune settings In-Reply-To: References: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1380080724.17129.YahooMailNeo@web163606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yes!! but?the radio tune settings are set in the CLI also get the docs on the wan page for the filter settings, you'll love it. Don't give up on acid, it has advantages like allmon. From: Pierre Martel To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:04 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] radio tune settings I have a 2 node setup on repeater, one for vhf and one for vhf. I run Acid and want to run the setup on a 64 bit machine. I have seen that Xipar will run on 64 bit arch. If I transfert my node to a xipar machine will have to retune my levels with radio tune menu or will I be able to transfert the info in the usbradio_tune_usbxxxxx.conf with xipar? _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n3fe at repeater.net Wed Sep 25 04:40:46 2013 From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:40:46 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] radio tune settings In-Reply-To: References: <52424745.6070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BCC91CBCFD66C4489B4BD3233140C3E048596B6D2CD@exchange.mail.repeater.net> Chances are you will want to retune if you will be using the wider codecs. Corey N3FE -----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Pierre Martel Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:05 PM To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] radio tune settings I have a 2 node setup on repeater, one for vhf and one for vhf. I run Acid and want to run the setup on a 64 bit machine. I have seen that Xipar will run on 64 bit arch. If I transfert my node to a xipar machine will have to retune my levels with radio tune menu or will I be able to transfert the info in the usbradio_tune_usbxxxxx.conf with xipar? _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. http://simba.repeater.net/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=3F8702228.A74B8 From jedscoot at yahoo.com Wed Sep 25 09:54:13 2013 From: jedscoot at yahoo.com (Ian) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:54:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon+Lighttpd In-Reply-To: <1380080396.84057.YahooMailNeo@web163606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1380060575.40443.YahooMailNeo@web172006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1380080396.84057.YahooMailNeo@web163606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1380102853.83882.YahooMailNeo@web172004.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Thanks for the comments;? it was indeed the [ displayconnects = yes ] that I needed to change to [ no ] on the remote node. 73, Ian.. ________________________________ From: Johnny Keeker To: Ian ; "App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013, 4:39 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon+Lighttpd May not be of any help but, did you uncomment the displayconnects = yes in the /etc/asterisk/manager.conf and change it to no??? JK From: Ian To: "App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:09 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon+Lighttpd Hello, I have Allmon running with Lighttpd on my PI and I have noticed while connected to a remote node via [ ssh ] to monitor, I see continual [ remote manager connect; remote manager disconnect ] prompts after a connect to the remote node from Allmon when logged in as admin.? There is no indication that the connection is connecting/disconnecting so I'm guessing that I just haven't quite set things up properly. Any comments/suggestions most welcome. 73, Ian.. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vk3ant at optusnet.com.au Thu Sep 26 04:45:35 2013 From: vk3ant at optusnet.com.au (R.K.) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:45:35 +1000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Help please with Beagle/LOX combination. Message-ID: <4553E5FE03BA422CBB0648CA35ED45A2@RKPC> Greetings, Wonder if there is someone out there who would be kind enough to ? take me by the hand ?, figuratively speaking, and guide me one step at a time, through the process of getting my Beagle/LOX combo up and running. I have had this thing for months now and I have had some help from one fellow, but for whatever reason I just can?t get the numbers to fall in to place, so now I want to go back to the start and have another go. Where I am currently at is, I am able to log on to another Node from my Beagle, but I believe my transmitted audio is very rough and difficult to understand, but then the next issue is, I am unable to hear the person I am connected to. I have been following the rantings on this forum for a while now and been applying bit and pieces that I believe relevant to my situation, but I still come up short of a perfectly working combination. I have no need for much of what many of you guys out there are doing with your gear, I am retired, wife and I do a bit of driving around the country, and all I want to do with my gear is that when we set up camp for the evening somewhere is drag the Beagle/LOX out from the back of the car, set it up and just talk. Nothing fancy. Anyway, if any of you out there are willing to take me under your wing and guide me through the process of getting this thing working then it would be very much appreciated, please contact me off list at vk3ant at arrl.net Thanks everyone. Ron VK3ANT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you mean 64 bit operating system (64 bit version of CENTOS) app-rpt will probably run on that. A couple of years ago, as an experiment I installed a 64 bit system, then ran the ACID install script and - while it made various warning messages during the compile - it ran just fine. Over the years I have seen where several other people have done the same. 73 Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cypresstower at yahoo.com Thu Sep 26 16:36:19 2013 From: cypresstower at yahoo.com (Johnny Keeker) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] 64 bit In-Reply-To: <006b01ceba95$e9c5a260$bd50e720$@cs.com> References: <006b01ceba95$e9c5a260$bd50e720$@cs.com> Message-ID: <1380213379.20029.YahooMailNeo@web163603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> What about the ACID Centos6 on the SVN site.? Has anyone else tried it beside me. JK From: Ken To: petem001 at hotmail.com Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:53 AM Subject: [App_rpt-users] 64 bit Basically all computers you buy today are 64 bit architecture.? If you mean 64 bit operating system (64 bit version of CENTOS) app-rpt will probably run on that.? A couple of years ago, as an experiment I installed a 64 bit system, then ran the ACID install script and ? while it made various warning messages during the compile - ?it ran just fine.?? Over the years I have seen where several other people have done the same. ? 73 ? Ken _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Fri Sep 27 14:32:09 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:32:09 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Control opp codes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: System disable turns off the transmitter. To use cop 3 you would add it your [functions] section in /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf for example: 950 = cop,3 ; Disable system 951 = cop,2 ; Enable system Now *950 will turn off the system and *951 will turn it on. -- Tim :wq On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Robert Newberry wrote: > Well I'm making headway here. Now I'm confused again. I was looking at a way to have the URI stop asserting the PTT line after hearing a certain DTMF. > > I see cop, 3 ;system disable. > > Does this mean DTMF 3 will disable the system? I noticed on ohnosec the rpt.conf.sample it says change these to something other than listed below. > > Also what exactly happens on a system disable? > > Thank you > > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Fri Sep 27 14:45:03 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:45:03 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Control opp codes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, I see in the copy of rpt.conf.sample right now ;92=cop,3 ;system disable So in theory I would want to change 92 to something I would prefer like your using 950 and 951. I think I have that right! Thanks On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > System disable turns off the transmitter. > > To use cop 3 you would add it your [functions] section in > /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf for example: > > 950 = cop,3 ; Disable system > 951 = cop,2 ; Enable system > > Now *950 will turn off the system and *951 will turn it on. > -- > Tim > :wq > > On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Robert Newberry wrote: > > Well I'm making headway here. Now I'm confused again. I was looking at a > way to have the URI stop asserting the PTT line after hearing a certain > DTMF. > > I see cop, 3 ;system disable. > > Does this mean DTMF 3 will disable the system? I noticed on ohnosec the > rpt.conf.sample it says change these to something other than listed below. > > Also what exactly happens on a system disable? > > Thank you > > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.sawyer at me.com Fri Sep 27 16:41:23 2013 From: tim.sawyer at me.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:41:23 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Control opp codes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, you can leave it as is. That way *92 is your disable command. 950 and 951 were just example. -- Tim :wq On Sep 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Robert Newberry wrote: > OK, I see in the copy of rpt.conf.sample right now > > ;92=cop,3 ;system disable > > So in theory I would want to change 92 to something I would prefer like your using 950 and 951. > > I think I have that right! > > Thanks > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > System disable turns off the transmitter. > > To use cop 3 you would add it your [functions] section in /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf for example: > > 950 = cop,3 ; Disable system > 951 = cop,2 ; Enable system > > Now *950 will turn off the system and *951 will turn it on. > -- > Tim > :wq > > On Sep 27, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Robert Newberry wrote: > >> Well I'm making headway here. Now I'm confused again. I was looking at a way to have the URI stop asserting the PTT line after hearing a certain DTMF. >> >> I see cop, 3 ;system disable. >> >> Does this mean DTMF 3 will disable the system? I noticed on ohnosec the rpt.conf.sample it says change these to something other than listed below. >> >> Also what exactly happens on a system disable? >> >> Thank you >> >> Apparare Scientior >> Paratus Communicare >> -N1XBM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From N1XBM at amsat.org Sat Sep 28 02:24:50 2013 From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert N. Newberry) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:24:50 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] uncommnet Message-ID: <52463DF2.7030601@gmail.com> So I've gotten into the usbradio.conf file and made some changes. I've also looked at the rpt.conf I was looking at the status reporting section and depending on if I'm running acid or limey. I need to uncomment. I did a startpage search and found reference to removing # but I do not see that in the file. What am I missing? -- Apparare Scientior Paratus Communicare -N1XBM From wolthuis at gmail.com Sat Sep 28 02:38:44 2013 From: wolthuis at gmail.com (Michael Wolthuis) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:38:44 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] COR on MotoTrbo XPR4350? In-Reply-To: <52463DF2.7030601@gmail.com> Message-ID: I understand the concerns, but I am interested in trying.. I want to hook a MotoTrbo XPR4350 to my beagle board. Does anyone know which pin on the XPR is COR? Is there a CTCSS pin? Thanks for any advice, Mike kb8zgl From wl7lp at yahoo.com Sat Sep 28 03:08:16 2013 From: wl7lp at yahoo.com (Russ WL7LP) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] which file Message-ID: <1380337696.20158.YahooMailNeo@web163104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I bought a URI for my Allstar node. I am having problem with it at this time. problem is when I plug the URI into a usb port it keys up everything that is connected to me or I'm connected to. it does this with or without a radio plugged into the URI. to unkey the node I have to unplug the URI from the usb port. and it don't matter which usb port it's plug into. which file should the URI use? as I see 2 possible files. one called usbradio.conf and the other simpleusb.conf.? ? 73 Russ WL7LP AllStar 29332, 29265 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What am I missing? > -- > Apparare Scientior > Paratus Communicare > -N1XBM > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users From keith at handscombe.co.uk Sat Sep 28 16:14:33 2013 From: keith at handscombe.co.uk (keith) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:14:33 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Mute Message-ID: <000001cebc65$d1ff4790$75fdd6b0$@co.uk> Evening all, It's been a long time since I am sure I did this on my first node build. In the morning I connect to the Winsystem and my node then gets then connects and disconnects while this net is on. I would prefer to only get the first point that my node connect to and then disconnects from and have no other node reports in-between the actual net. I have removed the Echo link connection broadcasts to reduce but would like to reduce the All-Star connection broadcasts please. 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URL: From jrorke at cogeco.ca Sat Sep 28 17:14:27 2013 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:14:27 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Mute In-Reply-To: <000001cebc65$d1ff4790$75fdd6b0$@co.uk> References: <000001cebc65$d1ff4790$75fdd6b0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <52470E73.1090205@cogeco.ca> If you are wanting to quiet the connect and disconnect messages on you node, then put these 2 lines in you rpt.conf file: holdofftelem=1 ; polite telemetry - waits until the channel is not busy to send telemetry locally telemdefault=2 ; timed local telemetry - announces connect/ disconnect messages after a local is executed then turns off all voice announcements after 5 minutes. The telemdefault=2 command allows local announcements after a local command is executed. After a while with no activity locally the announcements wont come on. If you issue a connect then it announces locally on you node. But after a 5 minutes or so the announcements will quiet down and stay off unless you issuue a command locally again and that turns the announcements back on for 5 min. This works great when you are on a linked system system where nodes are constantly connecting and disconnecting. Hope this is what you are looking for. Jon VA3RQ On 9/28/2013 12:14 PM, keith wrote: > > Evening all, > > It's been a long time since I am sure I did this on my first node > build. In the morning I connect to the Winsystem and my node then gets > then connects and disconnects while this net is on. I would prefer to > only get the first point that my node connect to and then disconnects > from and have no other node reports in-between the actual net. 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For example, the private server that I have been using for develoment is a single (quad-core) Xeon (older one), and it takes OVER 20 MINUTES to generate a 2 transmitter plot!! Does anyone have some server "space" on a REALLY fast system that could be "donated" for this purpose? We would *ALL* appreciate this VERY much!! :-) I will shortly attach some screenshots of the program as it currently exists. Since I really dont want anyone "test driving" the software on the current server, the URL was removed from the graphics. :-) I should have a copy of the sources of this 'modified' splat up on SVN later today. Thanks. Jim WB6NIL P.S. I tried to send this message with the attachments, and the list server bounced it because it was too large... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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DTMF execute *51? ;to turn off telemetry DTMF execute *52? ;turn on telemetry ? if you want your node to start with telemetry off,? place this statement under your node stanza ? [2XXXX] ;your node number startup_macro=*90 ? write a macro to connect to Wide Area Network telemetry disabled [macro] 3=*71*90*32135 4=*71*93 DTMF execute *53 ;connect to wide area network disable telemetry DTMF execute *54 ;disconnect wide area network re-enable telemetry ? always restart node or rpt reload to take affect make sure you have 5=macro,1 under [functions] or this won't work make sure your not using 90 or 91 or macros 1 2 3 4 somewhere else ? corrections gratefully accepted From: Geoff Edmonson To: keith Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Mute Did any one else understand this? keith wrote: Evening all, ? It's been a long time since I am sure I did this on my first node build. In the morning I connect to the Winsystem and my node then gets then connects and disconnects while this net is on. I would prefer to only get the first point that my node connect to and then disconnects from and have no other node reports in-between the actual net. I have removed the Echo link connection broadcasts to reduce but would like to reduce the All-Star connection broadcasts please. ? Whomever helps thanks ? ?? Kind Regards ? ?? Keith Handscombe???? ? ? _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ty at sarna.org Sat Sep 28 22:26:27 2013 From: ty at sarna.org (Ty Sarna) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 18:26:27 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Compile Errors In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , Message-ID: I'm interested in working on this. Where can I find the patches? (I see where you said "I have included a very minimal patch set" but I didn't see any patches or a link to them...) On Jul 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote: > OFficially, I will "neither deny nor confirm" that... :-) :-) > > And yeah, libpri *REALLY* isnt necessary, but I always added it > for completeness. > > Jim > > > > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:45:33 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Compile Errors > > From: robert at n5qm.com > > To: telesistant at hotmail.com > > CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > > > Jim, > > > > So, you have compiled using a 3.x kernel using dahdi? Did you compile > > libpri as well, or is it even necessary since we aren't using PRI > > signaling? > > > > Robert > > N5QM > > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote: > > > ahhhhh.. sure... > > > > > > If you wanna "go where do man has gone before" (or not many, actually), > > > I have included a very minimal patch set which will "fix" DAHDI so that > > > it actually works, and you can try using DAHDI instead... > > > > > > Jim > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:11:08 -0500 > > >> From: robert at n5qm.com > > >> CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Compile Errors > > >> > > >> I guess I should have researched that before I tried huh? lol > > >> > > >> Robert > > >> N5QM > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Jim Duuuude > > >> wrote: > > >> > I guess that's not GIGANTICALLY surprising, since Zaptel isn't even > > >> > CAPABLE of being compiled under a 3.X kernel, since there was a > > >> > major change in the ioctl() functionality in the driver stuff. > > >> > > > >> > Jim > > >> > > > >> >> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:58:44 -0500 > > >> >> From: robert at n5qm.com > > >> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > >> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Compile Errors > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> This appears to be an issue trying to compile against the 3.2 kernel. > > >> >> I tried on a 2.6 kernel and the issues were gone. > > >> >> > > >> >> Robert > > >> >> N5QM > > >> >> > > >> >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Robert Garcia wrote: > > >> >> > Guys, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I am working on compiling app_rpt for another platform using the > > >> >> > sources from svn and following the makefile. It looks like I am going > > >> >> > to need some help as I am already stuck at configuring zaptel. lol > > >> >> > > > >> >> > gcc -o menuselect menuselect.o strcompat.o menuselect_stub.o > > >> >> > mxml/libmxml.a mxml/libmxml.a > > >> >> > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tc/zaptel/menuselect' > > >> >> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tc/zaptel/menuselect' > > >> >> > > > >> >> > *********************************************************** > > >> >> > The existing menuselect.makeopts file did not specify > > >> >> > that 'zttool' should not be included. However, either some > > >> >> > dependencies for this module were not found or a > > >> >> > conflict exists. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Either run 'make menuselect' or remove the existing > > >> >> > menuselect.makeopts file to resolve this issue. > > >> >> > *********************************************************** > > >> >> > > > >> >> > make: *** [menuselect.makeopts] Error 255 > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I then nuked the menuselect.makeopts per the error and tried again, I > > >> >> > get a little further before receiving this error. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > make -C /lib/modules/3.0.21-tinycore/build ARCH=i386 > > >> >> > SUBDIRS=/usr/src/zaptel/kernel HOTPLUG_FIRMWARE=yes > > >> >> > KBUILD_OBJ_M="zaptel.o ztdummy.o ztdynamic.o zttranscode.o " modules > > >> >> > make[2]: Entering directory > > >> >> > `/usr/local/src/linux-headers-3.0.21-tinycore' > > >> >> > CC [M] /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.o > > >> >> > In file included from /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.c:37:0: > > >> >> > /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zconfig.h:26:28: fatal error: > > >> >> > linux/autoconf.h: > > >> >> > No such file or directory > > >> >> > compilation terminated. > > >> >> > make[3]: *** [/usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.o] Error 1 > > >> >> > make[2]: *** [_module_/usr/src/zaptel/kernel] Error 2 > > >> >> > make[2]: Leaving directory > > >> >> > `/usr/local/src/linux-headers-3.0.21-tinycore' > > >> >> > make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 > > >> >> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/zaptel' > > >> >> > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > >> >> > make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/zaptel' > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Oddly, the linux/autoconf.h file is there, so I'm not sure what path > > >> >> > is the base. I "fixed" that by providing an absolute path to the > > >> >> > autoconf.h file. Then I tried again and received this. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > make -C /lib/modules/3.0.21-tinycore/build ARCH=i386 > > >> >> > SUBDIRS=/usr/src/zaptel/kernel HOTPLUG_FIRMWARE=yes > > >> >> > KBUILD_OBJ_M="zaptel.o ztdummy.o ztdynamic.o zttranscode.o " modules > > >> >> > make[2]: Entering directory > > >> >> > `/usr/local/src/linux-headers-3.0.21-tinycore' > > >> >> > CC [M] /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.o > > >> >> > /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.c: In function 'zt_rbs_sethook': > > >> >> > /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.c:2160:2: warning: suggest > > >> >> > parentheses around operand of '!' or change '&' to '&&' or '!' to '~' > > >> >> > [-Wparentheses] > > >> >> > /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.c: At top level: > > >> >> > /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.c:7650:2: error: unknown field > > >> >> > 'ioctl' specified in initializer > > >> >> > /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.c:7650:2: warning: initialization > > >> >> > from incompatible pointer type [enabled by default] > > >> >> > /usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.c:7650:2: warning: (near > > >> >> > initialization for 'zt_fops.fsync') [enabled by default] > > >> >> > make[3]: *** [/usr/src/zaptel/kernel/zaptel-base.o] Error 1 > > >> >> > make[2]: *** [_module_/usr/src/zaptel/kernel] Error 2 > > >> >> > make[2]: Leaving directory > > >> >> > `/usr/local/src/linux-headers-3.0.21-tinycore' > > >> >> > make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 > > >> >> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/zaptel' > > >> >> > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > >> >> > make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/zaptel' > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Any ideas on how I can get past this? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Robert > > >> >> > N5QM > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> App_rpt-users mailing list > > >> >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > >> >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> App_rpt-users mailing list > > >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > > >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From n5zua at earthlink.net Sun Sep 29 06:04:41 2013 From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 01:04:41 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements References: <001901cebcca$fefbbed0$fcf33c70$@net> Message-ID: <8915C57D39B54D30A019F6B47DA1D504@steveea3dc3d27> Move these statements from [telemetry] stanza to node [29999] stanza. Some of these I have never seen before, and am not sure where you are getting them from. N5ZUA ----- Original Message ----- From: Harry Romano To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:18 PM Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements Hello all, I am trying to turn off the announcements that allstar makes when someone disconnects or connects. I would like to just turn them way down. I have put this code in RPT.conf under the telemetry stanza, but it is not working .Can anyone help please? What am I doing wrong? telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0; guilinkdynamic=0; phonelinkdefault=0; phonelinkdynamic=0; eannmode=0; echolinkdefault=0; echolinkdynamic=0; 73's Harry KC4RPP From andy at ple.org Sun Sep 29 22:30:53 2013 From: andy at ple.org (Andreas Pleschutznig) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:30:53 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] announcements In-Reply-To: <001901cebcca$fefbbed0$fcf33c70$@net> References: <001901cebcca$fefbbed0$fcf33c70$@net> Message-ID: <36B20B17-ACCA-4F8D-AE8E-F8B6C8388768@ple.org> Hi Harry, sorry for the late answer. I wanted to achieve the same thing and the only way *I* found was to actually change the code. Maybe I missed something, but what I did was to change the code so that nothing but ?Connected? and ?Disconnected? was announced. -- Andreas Pleschutznig, Cell: (832) 633-7817, Sent: MacBook KA5PLE, Allstar: 29841, Echolonk: 884823 On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:18 PM, Harry Romano wrote: > Hello all, > > I am trying to turn off the announcements that allstar makes when someone disconnects or connects. I would like to just turn them way down. I have put this code in RPT.conf under the telemetry stanza, but it is not working .Can anyone help please? What am I doing wrong? > telemdefault=0 > telemdynamic=0 > guilinkdefault=0; > guilinkdynamic=0; > phonelinkdefault=0; > phonelinkdynamic=0; > eannmode=0; > echolinkdefault=0; > echolinkdynamic=0; > > 73's > > Harry KC4RPP > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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