[App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display

Wed Aug 20 13:48:53 UTC 2014

Thank every one who has helped get my allstar node up and running , it's now off line and I don't think it will be back

I am sick and tired of the bashing of other VoIP systems or other networks

I was happy to add allstar I regret the money I put out to have it on my repeater system 

Again thanks to the 'good' people 

Richard Szajkowski VA3RZS, IRLP , Echolink and DMR system


> On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> WRONG!
> 
> IRLP IS NOT DESIGNATED AS *ANYTHING*!!!!!!!
> 
> Allstar is not interconnected with IRLP. 
> 
> Doug:
> 
> Where do you get off making such a statement? You are in no position to do so.
> In fact what you are doing here is endorsing activity OFFICIALLY AGAINST
> Allstar system policy, which absolutely will NOT BE TOLERATED IN ANY
> WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!!
> 
> Jim, WB6NIL
> 
> 
> 
> From: doug at crompton.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:12:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> 
> The leading "4" needs to be changed to a leading "8"  IRLP is now designated as 8xxxx. There still are unofficial bridges and in my lsnodes script I often see real IRLP nodes that show up with the leading 8 which I strip. The problem is though you can't just check for the leading 8 you really have to check for the entire string and make sure it is in the 80,000 to 89999 range. 
> 
> I would think the web transceiver code does this now for the 40000-49999 range. Just needs to be changed to 80000-89999. If it is a number in that range strip the leading 8 and present as an IRLP node.
> 
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> 
> 
> From: mike at midnighteng.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:32:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> 
> 
> 
> If you have the correct segment...
> 
> a simple change will prevent the problem until something better can be worked out.
> 
> }
> String s0 = str.substring(1, 2);
> if (s0.equals("4")) {
> return false;
> }
> return false;
> }
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
> Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 9:58 pm
> To: APP RPT <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> 
> It's Java, it practically ships with the source.
> 
> http://jd.benow.ca/, the online version works fine for messing around with it.
> 
> I'd say the offending code is this:
>  
> private boolean isIRLP(String str)
> {
> if (str.length() != 6) {
> return false;
> }
> for (int i = 2; i < str.length(); i++)
> {
> char ch = str.charAt(i);
> if (!Character.isDigit(ch)) {
> return false;
> }
> }
> String s0 = str.substring(1, 2);
> if (s0.equals("4")) {
> return true;
> }
> return false;
> }
> 
> it's in the BeanCanFrameManager.class in the jar.  It's a signed jar, so the hard part will be resigning it and getting it to be happy with a different rsa key.
> I'm no programer, just a guy that knows some assembler and has a copy of IDA.  I don't have the time to mess with it either right now :(
> 
> 73's
> 
> On 8/19/14, 8:11 PM, mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Since we no longer bridge to irlp, it should be a easy fix in a evaluation statement of node number over 4xxxx. (short fix)
> 
> Or eliminating all code to irlp connects (long fix) not desirable as things could change again.
> 
> Not having seen the code, I should refrain from comment though. There could be all kinds of hidden treasures there. Not always as easy as one might think.
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> From: iain macdonnell - N6ML <ar at dseven.org>
> Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 7:58 pm
> To: mike at midnighteng.com
> Cc: "App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> 
> There's (apparently) some logic that makes it display node numbers of
> the form '4xxxx' as if they were IRLP nodes. e.g. my node is 40898,
> and it appears in WebTransceiver as something like "IRLP:0898"
> 
> 73,
> 
> ~iain / N6ML
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:50 PM, <mike at midnighteng.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Through all the chatter on this, I lost sight of what the problem is that we
> > are trying to FIX ?
> > Outside of being a java web app.
> >
> > ...mike/kb8jnm
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> > From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
> > Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 7:22 pm
> > To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> >
> > Would he be willing to just fix the problem? It seems like a rather simple
> > fix if we are just talking about the node display.
> >
> > 73 Doug
> > WA3DSP
> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
> > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:43:26 -0700
> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> >
> > I talked to Jim Dixon about this yesterday. He said he is willing to supply
> > the source under certain conditions. Please contact him directly if
> > interested.
> > --
> > Tim
> > :wq
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Bob Brown - WØNQX <bbrown at byrg.net> wrote:
> >
> > well guys here is the list for the web site.... emails are included for most
> > take your pick.....
> >
> >
> >
> > AllStar Link Network -- Developers
> >
> > Allstar Link Web Site Development Team
> >
> >
> > w0otm at w0otm.com -- Marshall Dias, W0OTM
> >
> >
> >
> > jim at lambdatel.com -- Jim Dixon, WB6NIL
> >
> >
> >
> > dsuper7 at gmail.com -- Daniel Issac, No call (at least not yet)
> >
> >
> > App_rpt Development Team
> >
> >
> > jim at lambdatel.com -- Jim Dixon, WB6NIL
> >
> >
> >
> > hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com -- Steve RoDgers, WA6ZFT
> >
> >
> >
> > sph at xelatec.com -- Steve Henke, W9SH
> >
> >
> >
> > And many other who have generously contributed to this technology
> >
> >
> > Allstar Link OS And Sotware Distrubutions (ACID and Limey Linux)
> >
> >
> > hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com -- Steve RoDgers, WA6ZFT
> >
> >
> > Other Developers
> >
> >
> > Other Developers
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks in Advance
> >
> > Bob Brown, WØNQX
> >
> > Kansas City Metro Area
> >
> > http://drsm0ke.net
> >
> > http://byrg.net
> >
> > http://sm0kenet.net
> >
> > http://kcdstar.byrg.net
> >
> > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well if you don't have source for the current web transceiver apparently
> > there is source for iaxrpt which works well. It could be used as a base for
> > something new on the web page.
> >
> > It is really a shame to start all over again when this is probably a very
> > simple fix to the current code. Who had the source? Can we contact that
> > person?
> >
> >
> > 73 Doug
> > WA3DSP
> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:26:04 -0700
> >> From: ar at dseven.org
> >> To: kb4fxc at inttek.net
> >> CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> >>
> >> Some desire to get away from Java was expressed, and HTML5 suggested.
> >> I don't know much about HTML5 yet, to be honest. Does anyone see an
> >> easy path to a web client based on HTML5 + IAX2 ?
> >>
> >> It appears that the current WebTransceiver is based on Mexuar Corraleta
> >>
> >> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Mexuar
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> ~iain / N6ML
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:12 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Hi Guys,
> >> >
> >> > SIP and IAX2 are completely different protocols. It's rather like
> >> > comparing a Chevy to a Ford or English to Chinese---Both VoIP protocols
> >> > accomplish a lot of the same things, but, they aren't interchangeable
> >> > nor
> >> > are they directly compatible.
> >> >
> >> > However, there are many IAX2 toolkits out there, including some written
> >> > in
> >> > Java, etc. So, I recommend abandoning the notion of SIP for the Web
> >> > Transceiver entirely--go with IAX2 from the start. SIP won't do what's
> >> > needed for interfacing with the app_rpt code since SIP doesn't natively
> >> > pass the telemetry used by app_rpt, etc.
> >> >
> >> > 73, David KB4FXC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> My understanding of
> >> >>
> >> >> Differences to sip and iax is that underlying command/control/comment
> >> >> data.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you have and send that data, asterisk is ready for it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any sip device can be a iax device, but to have iax control, you must
> >> >> send that extra iax data formatted.
> >> >> Any iax device can be used as a sip device without control.
> >> >>
> >> >> any clues where the original java source may be found ?
> >> >>
> >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm
> >> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> >> >> From: Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com>
> >> >> Date: Sun, August 17, 2014 1:35 pm
> >> >> To: mike at midnighteng.com
> >> >> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >> >>
> >> >> Why is (a nicely commented) iax.conf shown there?
> >> >> --
> >> >> Tim
> >> >> :wq
> >> >>
> >> >> On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:14 AM, mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It's already sourced as iax.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> iax.conf?r=126">https://code.google.com/p/sipml5/source/browse/trunk/asterisk/etc/iax.conf?r=126
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
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