[App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
Doug Crompton
doug at crompton.com
Thu Aug 21 02:48:00 UTC 2014
Ok so instead of obfuscating the situation why don't you just fix it. You have the source so go for it! You go by your rules and others go by theirs. If you don't want to display IRLP then don't. Right now all of the new 40K Allstar nodes display labeled IRLP! and people think they are when they log in. At least fix that part of it. I support and display all the nodes correctly in lsnodes.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: telesistant at hotmail.com
To: doug at crompton.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:02:06 -0700
Doug,
IRLP is Dave Cameron's network. It is his to decide what happens or doesn't happen on it
or with it. I always have and always will totally respect his position and say in this matter.
Putting such support in official Allstar software would clearly endorse operation which is
contrary to his wishes/policies regarding his network. I won't do so, nor do I appreciate
anyone encouraging others to do so.
Jim WB6NIL
From: doug at crompton.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:57:48 -0400
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
Well I respectfully disagree. There are unofficial bridges and depending on how they are configured they do pass IRLP nodes as 8xxxxx - You certainly have the option of using that information or just ignoring it. I can show you a display that shows the IRLP node when a bridge is connected. This of course is totally dependent on how the bridge works. There is still old code floating around and probably modified code being used for bridges. Someone decided that the 8xxxxx region was now IRLP official or not.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: telesistant at hotmail.com
To: doug at crompton.com; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 06:25:21 -0700
WRONG!
IRLP IS NOT DESIGNATED AS *ANYTHING*!!!!!!!
Allstar is not interconnected with IRLP.
Doug:
Where do you get off making such a statement? You are in no position to do so.
In fact what you are doing here is endorsing activity OFFICIALLY AGAINST
Allstar system policy, which absolutely will NOT BE TOLERATED IN ANY
WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!!
Jim, WB6NIL
From: doug at crompton.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:12:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
The leading "4" needs to be changed to a leading "8" IRLP is now designated as 8xxxx. There still are unofficial bridges and in my lsnodes script I often see real IRLP nodes that show up with the leading 8 which I strip. The problem is though you can't just check for the leading 8 you really have to check for the entire string and make sure it is in the 80,000 to 89999 range.
I would think the web transceiver code does this now for the 40000-49999 range. Just needs to be changed to 80000-89999. If it is a number in that range strip the leading 8 and present as an IRLP node.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: mike at midnighteng.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:32:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
If you have the correct segment...
a simple change will prevent the problem until something better can be worked out.
}
String s0 = str.substring(1, 2);
if (s0.equals("4")) {
return false;
}
return false;
}
...mike/kb8jnm
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Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 9:58 pm
To: APP RPT <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
It's Java, it practically ships with the source.
http://jd.benow.ca/, the online version works fine for messing around with it.
I'd say the offending code is this:
private boolean isIRLP(String str)
{
if (str.length() != 6) {
return false;
}
for (int i = 2; i < str.length(); i++)
{
char ch = str.charAt(i);
if (!Character.isDigit(ch)) {
return false;
}
}
String s0 = str.substring(1, 2);
if (s0.equals("4")) {
return true;
}
return false;
}
it's in the BeanCanFrameManager.class in the jar. It's a signed jar, so the hard part will be resigning it and getting it to be happy with a different rsa key.
I'm no programer, just a guy that knows some assembler and has a copy of IDA. I don't have the time to mess with it either right now :(
73's
On 8/19/14, 8:11 PM, mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
Since we no longer bridge to irlp, it should be a easy fix in a evaluation statement of node number over 4xxxx. (short fix)
Or eliminating all code to irlp connects (long fix) not desirable as things could change again.
Not having seen the code, I should refrain from comment though. There could be all kinds of hidden treasures there. Not always as easy as one might think.
...mike/kb8jnm
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Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
From: iain macdonnell - N6ML <ar at dseven.org>
Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 7:58 pm
To: mike at midnighteng.com
Cc: "App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
There's (apparently) some logic that makes it display node numbers of
the form '4xxxx' as if they were IRLP nodes. e.g. my node is 40898,
and it appears in WebTransceiver as something like "IRLP:0898"
73,
~iain / N6ML
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:50 PM, <mike at midnighteng.com> wrote:
>
>
> Through all the chatter on this, I lost sight of what the problem is that we
> are trying to FIX ?
> Outside of being a java web app.
>
> ...mike/kb8jnm
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
> From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
> Date: Tue, August 19, 2014 7:22 pm
> To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>
> Would he be willing to just fix the problem? It seems like a rather simple
> fix if we are just talking about the node display.
>
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:43:26 -0700
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
>
> I talked to Jim Dixon about this yesterday. He said he is willing to supply
> the source under certain conditions. Please contact him directly if
> interested.
> --
> Tim
> :wq
>
> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Bob Brown - WØNQX <bbrown at byrg.net> wrote:
>
> well guys here is the list for the web site.... emails are included for most
> take your pick.....
>
>
>
> AllStar Link Network -- Developers
>
> Allstar Link Web Site Development Team
>
>
> w0otm at w0otm.com -- Marshall Dias, W0OTM
>
>
>
> jim at lambdatel.com -- Jim Dixon, WB6NIL
>
>
>
> dsuper7 at gmail.com -- Daniel Issac, No call (at least not yet)
>
>
> App_rpt Development Team
>
>
> jim at lambdatel.com -- Jim Dixon, WB6NIL
>
>
>
> hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com -- Steve RoDgers, WA6ZFT
>
>
>
> sph at xelatec.com -- Steve Henke, W9SH
>
>
>
> And many other who have generously contributed to this technology
>
>
> Allstar Link OS And Sotware Distrubutions (ACID and Limey Linux)
>
>
> hwstar at rodgers.sdcoxmail.com -- Steve RoDgers, WA6ZFT
>
>
> Other Developers
>
>
> Other Developers
>
>
> --
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Bob Brown, WØNQX
>
> Kansas City Metro Area
>
> http://drsm0ke.net
>
> http://byrg.net
>
> http://sm0kenet.net
>
> http://kcdstar.byrg.net
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>
> Well if you don't have source for the current web transceiver apparently
> there is source for iaxrpt which works well. It could be used as a base for
> something new on the web page.
>
> It is really a shame to start all over again when this is probably a very
> simple fix to the current code. Who had the source? Can we contact that
> person?
>
>
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:26:04 -0700
>> From: ar at dseven.org
>> To: kb4fxc at inttek.net
>> CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
>>
>> Some desire to get away from Java was expressed, and HTML5 suggested.
>> I don't know much about HTML5 yet, to be honest. Does anyone see an
>> easy path to a web client based on HTML5 + IAX2 ?
>>
>> It appears that the current WebTransceiver is based on Mexuar Corraleta
>>
>> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Mexuar
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ~iain / N6ML
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:12 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > SIP and IAX2 are completely different protocols. It's rather like
>> > comparing a Chevy to a Ford or English to Chinese---Both VoIP protocols
>> > accomplish a lot of the same things, but, they aren't interchangeable
>> > nor
>> > are they directly compatible.
>> >
>> > However, there are many IAX2 toolkits out there, including some written
>> > in
>> > Java, etc. So, I recommend abandoning the notion of SIP for the Web
>> > Transceiver entirely--go with IAX2 from the start. SIP won't do what's
>> > needed for interfacing with the app_rpt code since SIP doesn't natively
>> > pass the telemetry used by app_rpt, etc.
>> >
>> > 73, David KB4FXC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> My understanding of
>> >>
>> >> Differences to sip and iax is that underlying command/control/comment
>> >> data.
>> >>
>> >> If you have and send that data, asterisk is ready for it.
>> >>
>> >> Any sip device can be a iax device, but to have iax control, you must
>> >> send that extra iax data formatted.
>> >> Any iax device can be used as a sip device without control.
>> >>
>> >> any clues where the original java source may be found ?
>> >>
>> >> ...mike/kb8jnm
>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Web transceiver node display
>> >> From: Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com>
>> >> Date: Sun, August 17, 2014 1:35 pm
>> >> To: mike at midnighteng.com
>> >> Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> >>
>> >> Why is (a nicely commented) iax.conf shown there?
>> >> --
>> >> Tim
>> >> :wq
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:14 AM, mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's already sourced as iax.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> iax.conf?r=126">https://code.google.com/p/sipml5/source/browse/trunk/asterisk/etc/iax.conf?r=126
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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