[App_rpt-users] Odd CTCSS behavior on RTCM

[Chris Bunting]

Finally found the issue here, well my engineer N3TJJ did. The wireline
card needs to be set to full-duplex. A motorola gotcha per-se. Since
the wireline card isn't even being used in this case, it's just one of
those stupid quirks. Once we changed that setting the PL and receive
COR's worked fine... viola!
Thanks,
Chris Bunting
Lancaster Networks, LLC | Lancaster Towers, LLC
717-459-4321


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Chris Bunting <chris at lancnet.com> wrote:
> It is 5 volts high and 0 volts low, Motorola MTR2000, so no issues
> there, which is why I'm perplexed
> Thanks,
> Chris Bunting
> Lancaster Networks, LLC | Lancaster Towers, LLC
> 717-459-4321
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com> wrote:
>> You may in fact need a transistor circuit. The RTCM CTCSS needs to have very
>> near rail voltages. If your radio isn’t pulling the CTCSS input to very
>> close to zero volts it won’t work. So do check your CTCSS output while
>> connected to the RTCM. Make sure it goes to zero and build a circuit if not.
>> I like to use VN10K’s for that.
>> --
>> Tim
>> :wq
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Chris Bunting <chris at lancnet.com> wrote:
>>
>> tried every setting, and upgraded to 1.46, no dice. I'm going to try
>> and build a transistor circuit for it and see if that helps
>> It would be nice if there was a readme file that explained what the
>> voter-plus.cry file vs voter-smt.cry was, and some updated docs on the
>> actual rtcm... they are heavily out of date and aren't very detailed.
>>
>> also a changelog would be nice?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Bunting
>> Lancaster Networks, LLC | Lancaster Towers, LLC
>> 717-459-4321
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Bunting
>> Lancaster Networks, LLC | Lancaster Towers, LLC
>> 717-459-4321
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> If your CTCSS signal goes low with a tone you want to set the RTCM CTCSS to
>> inverted.
>> --
>> Tim
>> :wq
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Mark Johnston <markjohnston73 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have noticed my CT decode is not working on the RTCM's either, no one
>> seems to know why... even the mfg.
>>
>> Mine takes it from carrier mode or something, even though I know the ctcss
>> line is working
>> for whatever reason the rtcm will not honor the signal - i.e. anyone without
>> a PL can bring up the system, yet noise and such does not cause any issues,
>> I had an interference issue with my repeater, as it is at home now, test
>> site before I get it up on the mountain and I would get feedback, causing it
>> to loop, now with the RTCM this doesnt happen, it's almost like a smart
>> squelch anyway even signals a bit off freq don't seem to trip it up.. anyhow
>> Maybe PL is not really usable with the RTCM??? No one seems to be able to
>> answer why that is either.
>>
>>
>> Maybe in your case the RTCM is sinking too much current?
>> what settings do you have for the RTCM? btw...
>>
>>
>> 12 - External CTCSS (0=Ignore, 1=Non-Inverted, 2=Inverted) (1)
>> 13 - COR Type (0=Normal, 1=IGNORE COR, 2=No Receiver) (1)
>> 14 - Debug Level (0)
>> 17  - DSP/BEW Mode NOT SUPPORTED
>> 18 - "Duplex Mode 3" (0=DISABLED, 1-255 Hang Time) (1/10 secs) (0)
>> 19 - Simulcast Launch Delay (0) (approx 200 ns, 5 = 1us, > 0 to ENA SC)
>> 20 - Ext. CTCSS Input Threshold (0) (0-1023)
>>
>> One thing I noticed was the #20 but I can't seem to set it to anything...
>> unclear what that is for then.
>>
>> also im on S/W Version: 1.46 03/04/2014
>> Seems to be more stable but not sure if it would help you at all -
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Chris Bunting <chris at lancnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Running version 1.41 .
>> Have 2 rtcms connected to mtr2000 , thunderbolt gps , pretty standard
>> setup.
>> My simulcast is working great, however I can't get ct decode to work
>> properly. It's either in carrier mode or it doesn't work .
>>
>> Odd things happen when I put what I assume is the correct settings in the
>> ct and for config on the rtcm. The rx light flashes and sometimes let's a
>> signal thru , but my repeater sorta goes flaky like the rtcm is pulling the
>> line down and flaking it out. The voltage pulsates on the CTCSS line and the
>> repeater receiver light goes out when it is actually receiving a signal.
>> Very odd .
>>
>> Is 1.41 the best version? Any ideas what I'm doing wrong??
>> I'm using the rdstat2 pin on the MTR for CTCSS decode and it reads 5 volts
>> when receiving a valid pl .
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> N3FYI
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from My iPad
>>
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