[App_rpt-users] Frozen repeater

Doug Crompton doug at crompton.com
Fri Nov 21 18:33:53 UTC 2014


Mike,

 I may have missed your response to Dave about what condition you found the system in when it was not working. Was the blue heartbeat LED blinking on the BBB? Was the Green light blinking on the USB FOB? Did you have ssh access to the BBB?

Based on Dave's tests it appears there may have been something else going on here. 
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:07:49 -0500
> From: kb4fxc at inttek.net
> To: mike.lussier at gmail.com
> CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Frozen repeater
> 
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Was the URI green LED flashing (I guess not...)??
> 
> I'm rather amazed that the BBB or URI was directly the cause of the 
> lock-up, even with really cold conditions. The simplest low-power-budget 
> solution to keep this hardware warm is a simple Styrofoam container. 
> Even with the minuscule BBB power consumption, Styrofoam should do the 
> job fine.
> 
> I'll mention here, again, that the ONLY scenarios I've seen where BBB's 
> have locked-up were due to 5VDC power woes. I completely stable 5V power 
> source is critical. And, the 5VDC regulator might be a source of problems 
> in extreme cold, too.
> 
> If you don't already have it, I recommend adding a cheap digital 
> thermometer to your cabinet that records all-time temperature extremes, 
> including time/date. Or, if you want to get fancier, the BBB AllStar 
> release already includes support for a USB attached thermometer (see the 
> "pcsensor" command) which will log temperature to a file, etc. Note that 
> if you decide to go the USB thermometer route, a bug was found in the code 
> in the 1.2.1 release. This has already been patched, but, you'll need the 
> patch (contact me off list or search the arm-allstar list for more 
> details).
> 
> Any idea how cold it got and for how long??? And, what is your power 
> source??
> 
> I'm preparing to put a "test" BBB and URI in my deep-freezer (about -15
> degrees Fahrenheit) for this weekend. I'll put it in there completely
> unprotected.
> 
> My problems in the past with such extreme cold have been issues directly
> with the radio hardware (like VCO's that unlock, etc.).  This type of
> extreme thermal shock can also destroy transmitter PA's, in short order by
> cracking ceramic substrates in power modules, etc. (I've got a few of 
> those Tee-shirts, too!).
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, Michael Lussier wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I went up on the mountain Wednesday morning. The repeater was powered up as well as the BBB. No action from the repeater. 
> > Any thoughts on low power way to keep the BBB and the URI warm ? I can use 12vdc 
> > 
> > Sent from an iPhone 5 iOS 8
> > 
> > Mike.Lussier at gmail.com
> > AE4ML at arrl.net
> > AE4ML at amsat.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
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