[App_rpt-users] Multiple nodes

Chuck Kraly k0xm at byrg.net
Sun Sep 28 21:17:27 UTC 2014


Tim,
Not to debate some of your statements, but I am from Kansas and maybe our
math is different. My BBB cost 55 bucks, and the URI was 70. The RTCM is
269 bucks....
What am I missing?

Chuck K0XM
Allstar 41153 Portable BBB repeater 927.2375 in San Diego (until the end of
2014)

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com> wrote:

> There are a few ways to do what you want — that is permanently tie
> multiple repeaters together — if I understand your question.
>
> First, permanent connections are not as permanent as you might expect. If
> the computer that initiated the permanent connections goes down the
> connection will not reestablish. However you can have a startup macro make
> the connection as Asterisk starts. Also, there seems to be some
> intermittent bug, which I’ve never pinned down, where permanent connections
> won’t reestablish with out forcing a disconnect first.
>
> Second way is with RTCMs. They are a whole lot easier to deploy and way
> more reliable than a bunch of USB type nodes, with the trade off in
> expense. Although by the time you buy a BBB and a URI you’re getting close
> to the expense of an RTCM. Of course you can go with a cheep sound dongle
> and an eBay used thin client PC. It’s the ‘ol time/money/reliability trade
> off. I strongly recommend the RTCM approach.
>
> And a third option is called app_radbridge. If you don’t want to buy RTCMs
> this is probably the way to go. I’ve never tried to use it. The only
> documentation I am aware of is in the source which is reproduced here.
>
> /* This application is intended to provide a generic "bridging"
>    functionality for radio-oriented Asterisk channels.
>
>    The idea here is that certain radio applications lend themselves
>    to needing a "generic" (passes audio and tx/rx keying completely
>    transparently) to and from two or more endpoints.
>
>    An example of such an appication might be replacing (or providing
>    equivlent new functionaliy of) one or more full-duplex UHF control
>    links with an IP-based one(s).
>
>    app_radbridge allows multiple instances of radio-oriented channels
>    transparently "bridged" together.
>
>    The config file (radbridge.conf) allows specification of each
>    "bridging" instance and what radio-oriented Asterisk channels
>    are to be associated with it. There is no need for any other
>    specificaiton of configuration.
>
>    The file format for radbridge.conf departs somewhat from the standard
>    usage (at least for radio stuff) of the Asterisk config file
> architecture.
>
>    In most other radio-oriented cases, an instance of whatever it is
>    gets defined as a "Stanza" in the config file. In this case, because
>    of limitations in the way that Asterisk parses config files, that
>    was not possible. Instead, all config information goes into the
>    [general] stanza, and each line of config info defines a different
>    instance of radio bridging.  For example:
>
> [general]
>
> instance1 = Voter/1234,Radio/5678
> instance2 = Voter/1235,Radio/5679
>
>     This example would define two radio bridging instances "instance1"
>     and "instance2", each with 2 channels associated with them.
>
>     The supported channel types are "Voter" (chan_voter), "Radio"
>     (chan_usbradio), "SimpleUsb" (chan_simpleusb), and "Zap" ("Dahdi")
>     (chan_dahdi, for the couple of devices that use this channel
>     driver, such as the PCIRadio card, and separate analog channels
>     using an ARIB board or such).
>
>     Rather then "adding" (which would actually be a lot of *removing*
>     optionally) this functionality in app_rpt, it made more sense to
>     create a separate application specifically for this purpose. In
>     addition, this allows for a system that is merely provided for
>     doing this bridging application and nothing else radio-oriented,
>     to not have to run app_rpt at all.
> */
>
> --
> Tim
> :wq
>
> On Sep 28, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
>
> So as it stands I have a one node system. I have another URI on the way
> and will have  BBB soon. The eventual plan is to have a few repeaters and
> some simplex nodes at people's houses for RF hot spot access.
>
> What is the best way to tie these together? I understand you can set
> permanent links that will reestablish connection if lost.
>
> Is there other ways of accomplishing this? I only ask because I have my
> one node setup with email, autopatch and all other kinds of bells and
> whistles. I'd like to be able to do all of this from other RF locations and
> I wonder if I need to just set each node up accordingly or can one node be
> the workhorse and the other nodes just be dumb connections.
>
> Did I make any sense with that question?
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Chuck K0XM
Backyard Repeater Group
k0xm at byrg.net
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