[App_rpt-users] RB stability, was: Dial Watchdog Function

Kenneth Grimard n1dot1 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 12 19:41:02 UTC 2015 

allmon and allmon2 will cause an issue. if you do not use them you will not
have the problem steve. it can be made to cause a crash every time
when used.

this is why i have taken the remote base node off the allmon2 page's
on dial. and will have to do the same for the acid build also.

i am working with dial to make the migration to new
hardware sooner or later.

ken n1dot



On 12/12/2015 2:25 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
> I don't have any stability issues with the 706 and the basic rpt 
> remote base code.
> I don't need hamlib. Admittedly, I don't use Aallmon in it. I'll have 
> to try it.
>
> YMMV
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
>
> On 12/12/2015 02:20 PM, David McGough wrote:
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats causes a Asterisk
>> crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB using the 
>> built-in
>> code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But, Asterisk wasn't
>> stable very long, frequently crashing several times a day, depending on
>> use.  Various serial communications issues with the radio would
>> -sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded that their was
>> probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.
>>
>> If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk stability
>> skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or longer. As an
>> example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems now:
>>
>> TX time today....................................: 01:12:27.95
>> TX time since system initialization..............: 87:37:42.861
>> Uptime...........................................: 1336:34:22
>>
>> It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you can see, it 
>> gets
>> used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.
>>
>>
>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>>
>>> the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base node
>>> using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2
>>> by the way.
>>>
>>> ken n1dot
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>>> Ken,
>>>> I now better understand. I'll work on something that will solve the
>>>> restart from crash.
>>>> I will also look into what is causing the crash since I also have a
>>>> 706 as a remote base.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Steve
>>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>>>>> hi steve
>>>>>
>>>>> the main issue steve is not the fact that
>>>>> service asterisk restart does not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for any reason
>>>>> it will not restart itself. because of this i also can not use
>>>>> cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.
>>>>>
>>>>> cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but asterisk will
>>>>> not restart via a watchdog script.
>>>>>
>>>>> safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it has been eliminated.
>>>>> and you only use the asterisk service script under systemd.
>>>>>
>>>>> yes the version of the asterisk service script i have here from the
>>>>> dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the
>>>>> service asterisk restart does not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> it force's me to use service asterisk stop to remove the
>>>>> asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the
>>>>> the service asterisk start will then work allowing asterisk
>>>>> to be restarted proprely.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also have a node setup for remote base mode using an
>>>>> ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash with it.
>>>>> when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2 dashboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had to take the remote base node off of the
>>>>> allmon2 page to stop this crashing.
>>>>>
>>>>> it will do it every time too.
>>>>> that is something with the old remote base code
>>>>> with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash would be very nice
>>>>>
>>>>> where can i find a new or updated asterisk service script.
>>>>>
>>>>> can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in the
>>>>> dial x86 build with out having to re-install
>>>>> dial x86 image?
>>>>>
>>>>> otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial has been
>>>>> fairly stable. but i can make it crash under certain conditions
>>>>> which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access
>>>>> the remote base node via the asterisk manager
>>>>> interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> ken n1dot
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>> As I posted below I could not recreate your issue. is there anything
>>>>>> I'm missing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> root at repeater:~# asterisk -r
>>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>
>>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>>> General Public
>>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>>> ========================================================================= 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 
>>>>>> 4407)
>>>>>> repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
>>>>>> repeater*CLI> Killed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> root at repeater:~# service asterisk restart
>>>>>> root at repeater:~# asterisk -r
>>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>
>>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>>> General Public
>>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>>> ========================================================================= 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 
>>>>>> 4462)
>>>>>> repeater*CLI>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>>>>>>> I download the dial release and installed it just after is first
>>>>>>> came out
>>>>>>> that was about 4 weeks ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you use the cop,1 cop
>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>> it will not restart is self at all. you have to go into an ssh
>>>>>>> shell and issue a
>>>>>>> service asterisk stop then a service asterisk start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the service asterisk restart does not work for me on the x86 
>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there seems to be no way for asterisk to restart itself after a 
>>>>>>> crash
>>>>>>> or after using the cop,1 cop command.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> has there been any updates to the asterisk service command
>>>>>>> for systemd to fix this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ken n1dot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Neil,
>>>>>>>> I misread your message last night.
>>>>>>>> I just tested service asterisk restart on DIAL x86 restarts a dead
>>>>>>>> asterisk. See below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>   1081 ?        Ssl    0:01 /usr/sbin/asterisk
>>>>>>>>   1117 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9 1081
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>   1125 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
>>>>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>
>>>>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>>>>> General Public
>>>>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>>>>> ========================================================================= 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl
>>>>>>>> exist?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# service asterisk restart
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>   1143 ?        Ssl    0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk
>>>>>>>>   1171 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root at repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
>>>>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer <markster at digium.com>
>>>>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>>>>> General Public
>>>>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>>>>> ========================================================================= 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 
>>>>>>>> 1143)
>>>>>>>> repeater*CLI>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Steve N4IRS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>> I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC
>>>>>>>>> Observations
>>>>>>>>> 1. When asterisk crashes, there is no restart or watchdog
>>>>>>>>> 2.this makes debugging very difficult
>>>>>>>>> 3.asterisk service mode restart does not seem to work
>>>>>>>>> 4. in this mode remote SSH to restart is not possible
>>>>>>>>> Do you have any fixes planned?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> 73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
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