From vk3ant at optusnet.com.au  Sun Feb  1 06:32:37 2015
From: vk3ant at optusnet.com.au (R.K.)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 17:32:37 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] LOX and RTCM sale.
Message-ID: <4FCD44DAD0B746FF8C18879E41A68B09@RKPC>


Hi everyone.

During the past week I had an RTCM and a DMK LOX board up for sale.

The RTCM has been sold and I circulated an E-mail via this group on Friday ( Australian time ) letting you all know, but it seems that it did not get distributed and people are still asking about it.

Like I say, I DID let you all know that it has gone so I can only say sorry to those of you who didn?t get the memo.

Thanks to all of you that expressed an interest.

73
de Ron
VK3ANT
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From n5zua at earthlink.net  Sun Feb  1 18:56:27 2015
From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 12:56:27 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Unfamiliar Error
Message-ID: <54CE76DB.3060103@earthlink.net>

Anyone familiar with this error appearing on a node?

WARNING[7779]: channel.c:944 ast_queue_frame: Unable to write to alert 
pipe on (null), frametype/subclass 5/0 (qlen = 2): Bad file descriptor!
     -- Re-Loading config for repeater 29864
     -- Re-Loading config for repeater 1099
     -- Re-Loading config for repeater 29863

N5ZUA



From horsezip at earthlink.net  Sun Feb  1 21:02:51 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 16:02:51 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] new install
Message-ID: <lj4tcahh2om0ve0nue5t2jdm7l16octk3q@4ax.com>

i'm tryong 2 setup server/node in data center every time i try use s
static ip the install dies anyone seen this using acid iso?
jimmy


From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Sun Feb  1 21:36:12 2015
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 16:36:12 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] new install
In-Reply-To: <lj4tcahh2om0ve0nue5t2jdm7l16octk3q@4ax.com>
References: <lj4tcahh2om0ve0nue5t2jdm7l16octk3q@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <54CE9C4C.8090901@cogeco.ca>

Use DHCP to install. After the node is installed then switch the box to 
a static ip.

the DNS gets blown away if you select static IP and can t find the servers.

Jon VA3RQ

On 2/1/2015 4:02 PM, jimmy keffer wrote:
> i'm tryong 2 setup server/node in data center every time i try use s
> static ip the install dies anyone seen this using acid iso?
> jimmy
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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Sun Feb  1 23:24:15 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 15:24:15 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Unfamiliar Error
In-Reply-To: <54CE76DB.3060103@earthlink.net>
References: <54CE76DB.3060103@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <90A7C0BB-C77B-4FF7-ABE6-72A8DA9FD456@mac.com>

Is that on ACID or some other build?
--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Steve Agee <n5zua at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Anyone familiar with this error appearing on a node?
> 
> WARNING[7779]: channel.c:944 ast_queue_frame: Unable to write to alert pipe on (null), frametype/subclass 5/0 (qlen = 2): Bad file descriptor!
>    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 29864
>    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 1099
>    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 29863
> 
> N5ZUA
> 
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Feb  1 23:32:30 2015
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 18:32:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Unfamiliar Error
In-Reply-To: <90A7C0BB-C77B-4FF7-ABE6-72A8DA9FD456@mac.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502011828450.11165-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Hi Guys,

I've never seen this error, but, check the kernel messages ("dmesg"  
command)  and look for errors. Also, check the system RAM memory stats 
("free" command) and free disk space ("df" command). Run these commands 
from a shell prompt.

What Linux kernel version and distro are in-use? What is the hardware?

73, David KB4FXC



On Sun, 1 Feb 2015, Tim Sawyer wrote:

> Is that on ACID or some other build?
> --
> Tim
> :wq
> 
> > On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Steve Agee <n5zua at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Anyone familiar with this error appearing on a node?
> > 
> > WARNING[7779]: channel.c:944 ast_queue_frame: Unable to write to alert pipe on (null), frametype/subclass 5/0 (qlen = 2): Bad file descriptor!
> >    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 29864
> >    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 1099
> >    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 29863
> > 
> > N5ZUA
> > 
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From n5zua at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  2 04:24:13 2015
From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 22:24:13 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Unfamiliar Error
In-Reply-To: <90A7C0BB-C77B-4FF7-ABE6-72A8DA9FD456@mac.com>
References: <54CE76DB.3060103@earthlink.net>
	<90A7C0BB-C77B-4FF7-ABE6-72A8DA9FD456@mac.com>
Message-ID: <54CEFBED.4000805@earthlink.net>

Standard Acid build, about 3 months ago. Dell Optiplex 755 with 4 GB of 
RAM. It has worked fine up until a few days ago.

N5ZUA

On 2/1/2015 5:24 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> Is that on ACID or some other build?
> --
> Tim
> :wq
>
>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Steve Agee <n5zua at earthlink.net 
>> <mailto:n5zua at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone familiar with this error appearing on a node?
>>
>> WARNING[7779]: channel.c:944 ast_queue_frame: Unable to write to 
>> alert pipe on (null), frametype/subclass 5/0 (qlen = 2): Bad file 
>> descriptor!
>>    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 29864
>>    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 1099
>>    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 29863
>>
>> N5ZUA
>>
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 13:57:12 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 07:57:12 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ECHO Echo echo ...
Message-ID: <54CF8238.8090504@gmail.com>

Weirdness sat in yesterday evening... and even after everything was
powered off, unplugged, connections tightened, wires checked and
rechecked, computer was 'shutdown -h now', unplugged, caps drained, etc...

restarted everything and all seemed cool, locally.

So, I have 29655 (UHF repeater, usbradio; no-dsp), 29656 (echolink - no
hardware) and 29657 (vhf simplex node, TMV-7a using the packet port,
9600-baud [discriminator audio], ctcss from DSP) and all of a sudden,
the 2m node went ballistic.  Did the resets, made sure the node was on
the right frequency, etc, and again, this morning, there was 'echoing'
every time the 2m node was unkeyed. Sounded like acoustical feedback. 
Weirdness!

so... (on uhf) *129657. Have a friend on the other side of town - 2
systems linked together.  Dialed the uhf node to friends node. Dialed
the vhf rig to the same node ... no echo.

I let it stay like that about a half hour and just now, on vhf
disconnected from my friends link, and reconnected 29657 (vhf simplex
node) to 29655 (uhf repeater - both nodes on same computer) and ... NO ECHO.

Why?

-Geoff/W5OMR



From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Mon Feb  2 14:33:28 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 06:33:28 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ECHO Echo echo ...
In-Reply-To: <54CF8238.8090504@gmail.com>
References: <54CF8238.8090504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9DA7D1DD-6338-485C-8978-145076D06383@mac.com>

My first guess is that it?s an intermittent RF problem. Sounds like the transmitter is getting into the receiver. That would have a echo due to the short audio delay in the app_rpt repeat path. 

> On Feb 2, 2015, at 5:57 AM, Geoff <ars.w5omr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Weirdness sat in yesterday evening... and even after everything was
> powered off, unplugged, connections tightened, wires checked and
> rechecked, computer was 'shutdown -h now', unplugged, caps drained, etc...
> 
> restarted everything and all seemed cool, locally.
> 
> So, I have 29655 (UHF repeater, usbradio; no-dsp), 29656 (echolink - no
> hardware) and 29657 (vhf simplex node, TMV-7a using the packet port,
> 9600-baud [discriminator audio], ctcss from DSP) and all of a sudden,
> the 2m node went ballistic.  Did the resets, made sure the node was on
> the right frequency, etc, and again, this morning, there was 'echoing'
> every time the 2m node was unkeyed. Sounded like acoustical feedback. 
> Weirdness!
> 
> so... (on uhf) *129657. Have a friend on the other side of town - 2
> systems linked together.  Dialed the uhf node to friends node. Dialed
> the vhf rig to the same node ... no echo.
> 
> I let it stay like that about a half hour and just now, on vhf
> disconnected from my friends link, and reconnected 29657 (vhf simplex
> node) to 29655 (uhf repeater - both nodes on same computer) and ... NO ECHO.
> 
> Why?
> 
> -Geoff/W5OMR
> 
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 14:47:10 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:47:10 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ECHO Echo echo ...
In-Reply-To: <9DA7D1DD-6338-485C-8978-145076D06383@mac.com>
References: <54CF8238.8090504@gmail.com>
	<9DA7D1DD-6338-485C-8978-145076D06383@mac.com>
Message-ID: <54CF8DEE.5040106@gmail.com>


On 02/02/2015 08:33 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> My first guess is that it?s an intermittent RF problem. Sounds like the transmitter is getting into the receiver. That would have a echo due to the short audio delay in the app_rpt repeat path. 
>

That was my first guess too, Tim.  That would be why I took everything
apart, checked connections, connectors, etc... made sure it was all
tight, etc... then put it all back together, fired it back up and things
were good ... for a while, then it started again, this morning  :-/

Apparently it didn't have an issue, last night.
This morning, when it reared it's ugly head again, I disconnected the
vhf simplex node from the uhf repeater node, connected the both of 'em
to my buddy across town, and ... no echo.  Strange, but ok. 
Disconnected from him, and reconnected the vhf simplelx node back to the
local uhf repeater node and now.. no echo.

head scratching, for sure.


From n6gkj1 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 23:38:31 2015
From: n6gkj1 at gmail.com (ronald simpson)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:38:31 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] new install
In-Reply-To: <54CE9C4C.8090901@cogeco.ca>
References: <lj4tcahh2om0ve0nue5t2jdm7l16octk3q@4ax.com>
	<54CE9C4C.8090901@cogeco.ca>
Message-ID: <CANr-_9q_GEsM-c2GyqSvNNpzeVy5RCnhgr-g6qKN+B9eeXHszQ@mail.gmail.com>

Ditto... I always use DHCP then convert later... If you set your IP address
on your server setting in the Allstar Portal those values will get written
into your install during that part of the install where the script asks for
your server info.
On Feb 1, 2015 1:50 PM, "REDBUTTON_CTRL" <jrorke at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Use DHCP to install. After the node is installed then switch the box to a
> static ip.
>
> the DNS gets blown away if you select static IP and can t find the servers.
>
> Jon VA3RQ
>
> On 2/1/2015 4:02 PM, jimmy keffer wrote:
>
>> i'm tryong 2 setup server/node in data center every time i try use s
>> static ip the install dies anyone seen this using acid iso?
>> jimmy
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From horsezip at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  3 02:10:44 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:10:44 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] allmon
Message-ID: <h7b0dahhk86q19em3ihigmttdl40fnueae@4ax.com>

where can i find info on installing allmon on my new acid box
thanks jimmy ka3vgm


From keith at goobie.org  Tue Feb  3 03:17:49 2015
From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 22:17:49 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] allmon
In-Reply-To: <h7b0dahhk86q19em3ihigmttdl40fnueae@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <D0F5A80D.3EFBC%keith@goobie.org>

Not much, but the essentials are there.  If you need help I can assist.

https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon/blob/master/README

Keith
VA3YC


On 2/2/15 9:10 PM, "jimmy keffer" <horsezip at earthlink.net> wrote:

> where can i find info on installing allmon on my new acid box
> thanks jimmy ka3vgm
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From tf.ops2 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 03:39:40 2015
From: tf.ops2 at gmail.com (Technology Frontier | TF.OPS2)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:39:40 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
Message-ID: <54D042FC.2050003@gmail.com>

Hello App_Rpt Group,  currently using Viasat's Exede for Internet 
services and need to find out how to  set up a Asterisk RF Gateway proxy 
in order to alleviate the inbound connection problem (outbound initiated 
connections work great, inbound connections never make it past the NOC 
firewall).   Would setting up a couple of private nodes at a server farm 
be beneficial?  Thank You in advance.

Mars - N0PCO



From doug at crompton.com  Tue Feb  3 04:02:21 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 23:02:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
In-Reply-To: <54D042FC.2050003@gmail.com>
References: <54D042FC.2050003@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W82ED79A65695D846AB83CBA3D0@phx.gbl>

Is it s specific port or ports that are firewalled? You can change 4569 IAX to whatever port# you want that isn't well know or being used.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 21:39:40 -0600
> From: tf.ops2 at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
> 
> Hello App_Rpt Group,  currently using Viasat's Exede for Internet 
> services and need to find out how to  set up a Asterisk RF Gateway proxy 
> in order to alleviate the inbound connection problem (outbound initiated 
> connections work great, inbound connections never make it past the NOC 
> firewall).   Would setting up a couple of private nodes at a server farm 
> be beneficial?  Thank You in advance.
> 
> Mars - N0PCO
> 
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From kilo7alphazulu at verizon.net  Tue Feb  3 04:18:54 2015
From: kilo7alphazulu at verizon.net (Chris Hill - K7AZ)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:18:54 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] HP5740e Thin Client Loading Lock-Up:  Update 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1421773209.29807.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.1.1421773209.29807.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <05F8EE2C-F7BB-41DF-8B06-AB6C2AB08E16@verizon.net>

Here is what was discovered so far:

Subbing a SATA SSD for the 4GB Flash Drive did not help.  Getting the latest CentOS ISO image did not help.  Did not try expanding RAM.

Debugging was done by pressing ?I" after the CentOS started loading and typing ?N" for the CPUSPEEDADJ allowed loading of ACID.

This particular HP TC needs a slight tweak to the kernel and re-compiling.     More later on Update 2.

73
Chris / K7AZ  
Node 29275 & Others




 


From doug at crompton.com  Tue Feb  3 04:30:53 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 23:30:53 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
In-Reply-To: <54D0498A.50305@gmail.com>
References: <54D042FC.2050003@gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W82ED79A65695D846AB83CBA3D0@phx.gbl>, <54D0498A.50305@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W152C051122F71CFDD38ED7BA3D0@phx.gbl>

Well iax re-registers once a minute and there is tons of status traffic outbound on a busy node.

You could just stay connected (permanan connect) to some outside hub and tell people to connect to you there. Then if you want to go private you can connect directly to them. I am sure there are plenty of nodes that would allow you to do that.

I have one here if you are looking for a place. 

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:07:38 -0600
> From: tf.ops2 at gmail.com
> To: doug at crompton.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
> 
> Inbound traffic (all ports) are blocked, unless there is originating 
> contact (such as registration - which works with SIP, but no such luck 
> with IAX2 yet).
> 
> On 02/02/2015 10:02 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> > Is it s specific port or ports that are firewalled? You can change 4569 IAX to whatever port# you want that isn't well know or being used.
> >
> > 73 Doug
> > WA3DSP
> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> >
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 21:39:40 -0600
> >> From: tf.ops2 at gmail.com
> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
> >>
> >> Hello App_Rpt Group,  currently using Viasat's Exede for Internet
> >> services and need to find out how to  set up a Asterisk RF Gateway proxy
> >> in order to alleviate the inbound connection problem (outbound initiated
> >> connections work great, inbound connections never make it past the NOC
> >> firewall).   Would setting up a couple of private nodes at a server farm
> >> be beneficial?  Thank You in advance.
> >>
> >> Mars - N0PCO
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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From wbs099 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  3 13:39:34 2015
From: wbs099 at yahoo.com (Bill South)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 05:39:34 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W82ED79A65695D846AB83CBA3D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1422970774.36175.YahooMailBasic@web160806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Is VoIP over satellite really viable?  The company I worked for a number of years ago did some VoIP over satellite Internet connections and the delays due to latency was so bad it simply wasn't a useable option for us.  Has the technology changed in the last 10 years to make this doable?  Anyone doing VoIP over a satellite Internet connection have some feedback, would be interesting to hear about?

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 2/2/15, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
 To: "Technology Frontier | TF. OPS2" <tf.ops2 at gmail.com>
 Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
 Date: Monday, February 2, 2015, 11:02 PM
 
 
 
 
 Is it s specific port or ports that
 are firewalled? You can change 4569 IAX to whatever port#
 you want that isn't well know or being used.
 
 
 73
 Doug
 WA3DSP
 http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
 
 
 > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 21:39:40 -0600
 > From: tf.ops2 at gmail.com
 > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
 > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via
 Satellite
 > 
 > Hello App_Rpt Group,  currently using Viasat's
 Exede for Internet 
 > services and need to find out how to  set up a Asterisk
 RF Gateway proxy 
 > in order to alleviate the inbound connection problem
 (outbound initiated 
 > connections work great, inbound connections never make
 it past the NOC 
 > firewall).   Would setting up a couple of private nodes
 at a server farm 
 > be beneficial?  Thank You in advance.
 > 
 > Mars - N0PCO
 > 
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From horsezip at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  3 14:12:33 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:12:33 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] allmon
In-Reply-To: <D0F5A80D.3EFBC%keith@goobie.org>
References: <h7b0dahhk86q19em3ihigmttdl40fnueae@4ax.com>
	<D0F5A80D.3EFBC%keith@goobie.org>
Message-ID: <0qk1da99hqur9bkg51e8cdpkghhr9mv7ql@4ax.com>

hum that's above my head that said i would like 2 watch some do the
install so can learn how the box  is a data center so i can remote
access but i would like 2 watch how it's done 2 learn is that possible
foe someone to do jimmy ka3vgn
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 22:17:49 -0500, you wrote:

>Not much, but the essentials are there.  If you need help I can assist.
>
>https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon/blob/master/README
>
>Keith
>VA3YC
>
>
>On 2/2/15 9:10 PM, "jimmy keffer" <horsezip at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> where can i find info on installing allmon on my new acid box
>> thanks jimmy ka3vgm
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From james at lyljtlabs.com  Tue Feb  3 15:18:07 2015
From: james at lyljtlabs.com (James Lyles)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:18:07 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] best board/embedded computer for home node?
Message-ID: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017047D53932@MAILR002.mail.lan>

I am going to an allstarlink node and know that the Beagleboard-xM and Beaglebone Black are in use currently with nodes. However, I saw the new Raspberry Pi 2 announcement today, it?s a quad core ARM v7 chip, 1 gb RAM, and still $35. What would be people?s recommendation to make my first node with an embedded type system for home experimentation?

Thanks,

James
AB2WS

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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 15:46:07 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:46:07 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
Message-ID: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com>

So, I've got some defines ...

;******************
;* Stanza Defines *
;vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
;
;controlstates=controlstates29655
scheduler=schedule29655
morse=morse29657   
macro=macro29655   
functions=functions29655
phone_functions=functions29655
link_functions=functions29655
telemetry=telemetry29655
wait_times=wait-times29655
;
idtalkover=|iW5OMR R
unlinkedct=ct2                                  ;Courtesy tone sound the
node makes when not linked
remotect=ct3                                    ;Courtesy tone sound the
node makes when linked
linkunkeyct=ct8                                 ;Courtesy tone sound the
node makes when a remote linked system unkeys
nolocallinkct=0
eannmode=2
echolinkdefault=0
echolinkdynamic=0
nounkeyct=0
telemdefault=2                                  ;temetry mode
;                                               0 = telemetry output off,
;                                               1 = telemetry output on,
;                                               2 = timed telemetry
output on command execution and for a short time thereafter

specifically, at this time, I'm concerned about Courtesy tones.  So,
let's go down to the telemetry stanza for 29655...

[telemetry29655]
;
;when NOT linked
ct2=|t(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,100,2048)
;
;when Linked
ct3=|t(0,0,10,0)(880,440,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(440,660,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(880,440,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(440,660,150,2048)
;
ct4=|t(550,0,150,1048)(550,0,150,1048)
ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048)
ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048)
ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048)
; When remote link unkeys
ct8=|t(0,0,10,0)(350,440,50,2048)(0,0,50,0)(880,440,50,2048)(0,0,50,0)(350,440,50,2048)
;
ct9=|t(660,680,100,4000)(0,0,100,0)(660,680,100,1000)(0,0,100,0)(660,680,100,250)
remotetx=|t(500,0,10,1048)(0,0,10,0)(1000,0,10,1048)
remotemon=|t(1009,0,50,2048)
cmdmode=|icm ;(220,247,262,294,330,350,392,2048)
functcomplete=|iEN
patchup=rpt/callproceeding
patchdown=rpt/callterminated
;
;
; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted
; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater
;
[wait-times29655]
telemwait=150
idwait=10   
unkeywait=650
calltermwait=150


but, regardless of how I change the CT's, it remains the same, when
asterisk is stopped and restarted, even when the machine is rebooted,
the courtesy tone remains the same.





From tf.ops2 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 16:53:50 2015
From: tf.ops2 at gmail.com (Technology Frontier | TF.OPS2)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:53:50 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk RF Gateway via Satellite
Message-ID: <54D0FD1E.5040906@gmail.com>

Yes, VoIP over satellite really is viable. Technology has definitely changed over the past 10 years, some of the satellites actually have the router / switch built-in which helps a lot. So far we haven't had anyone mention "the 30 minute delay" where the connection would disappear and then come back right at the point where it left off. Both of the primary satellite ISPs (HughesNet and Viasat Exede) offer IP Phone services, if VoIP wasn't viable I doubt they would want the additional support headaches to deal with.

There's still the problem with inbound traffic being blocked when there's no client initiated connection (another PBX / RF Gateway or proxy takes care of this problem though).


Mars - N0PCO




On 02/03/2015 07:39 AM, Bill South wrote:
>  Is VoIP over satellite really viable?  The company I worked for a number of years ago did some VoIP over satellite Internet connections and the delays due to latency was so bad it simply wasn't a useable option for us.  Has the technology changed in the last 10 years to make this doable?  Anyone doing VoIP over a satellite Internet connection have some feedback, would be interesting to hear about?



From N1XBM at amsat.org  Tue Feb  3 19:07:06 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:07:06 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] best board/embedded computer for home node?
In-Reply-To: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017047D53932@MAILR002.mail.lan>
References: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017047D53932@MAILR002.mail.lan>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEYR=_rVscJ4n=5zbzsCdQ8WKOxHD5HsOn-_AgQ1H0LkOg@mail.gmail.com>

My suggestion is the BBB. IMO it has good support in terms of getting help
from this list. It is very easy to setup.
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From doug at crompton.com  Tue Feb  3 19:26:21 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:26:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] best board/embedded computer for home node?
In-Reply-To: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017047D53932@MAILR002.mail.lan>
References: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017047D53932@MAILR002.mail.lan>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W820B4B7B8CD6F7134AB09BA3D0@phx.gbl>

James,

 There are numerous new and impressive boards coming out and undoubtedly there will be many more in the future. The problem is getting everything setup on a new board is not a quick process. Also every new board is not going to be winner. The BeagleBone Black is mature and proven at this point. It works extremely well and the investment is not that much - $40 - so even if a package is proven on a better board in the future it is not a big deal to move up.

The BBB system is extremely easy to bring up initially. If you have all your data together you can have a node online in 10 minutes or less. See hamvoip.org for the image and info.

We are looking and working on possible new boards but with a base of hundreds of BBB's out there (and growing) it will continue to be upgraded for the foreseeable future. 
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


From: james at lyljtlabs.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:18:07 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] best board/embedded computer for home node?










I am going to an allstarlink node and know that the Beagleboard-xM and Beaglebone Black are in use currently
 with nodes. However, I saw the new Raspberry Pi 2 announcement today, it?s a quad core ARM v7 chip, 1 gb RAM, and still $35. What would be people?s recommendation to make my first node with an embedded
 type system for home experimentation? 
 
Thanks,
 
James

AB2WS
 






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From n5zua at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  3 19:36:11 2015
From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 13:36:11 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>

Courtesy tones are global. So, no way to have different stanzas for 
different nodes. At least, that's what I found a while back when I tried 
to have different stanzas. Maybe a newer SVN is out that I have not 
tested that allows it, I'm not sure.

N5ZUA

On 2/3/2015 9:46 AM, Geoff wrote:
> So, I've got some defines ...
>
> ;******************
> ;* Stanza Defines *
> ;vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
> ;
> ;controlstates=controlstates29655
> scheduler=schedule29655
> morse=morse29657
> macro=macro29655
> functions=functions29655
> phone_functions=functions29655
> link_functions=functions29655
> telemetry=telemetry29655
> wait_times=wait-times29655
> ;
> idtalkover=|iW5OMR R
> unlinkedct=ct2                                  ;Courtesy tone sound the
> node makes when not linked
> remotect=ct3                                    ;Courtesy tone sound the
> node makes when linked
> linkunkeyct=ct8                                 ;Courtesy tone sound the
> node makes when a remote linked system unkeys
> nolocallinkct=0
> eannmode=2
> echolinkdefault=0
> echolinkdynamic=0
> nounkeyct=0
> telemdefault=2                                  ;temetry mode
> ;                                               0 = telemetry output off,
> ;                                               1 = telemetry output on,
> ;                                               2 = timed telemetry
> output on command execution and for a short time thereafter
>
> specifically, at this time, I'm concerned about Courtesy tones.  So,
> let's go down to the telemetry stanza for 29655...
>
> [telemetry29655]
> ;
> ;when NOT linked
> ct2=|t(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,100,2048)
> ;
> ;when Linked
> ct3=|t(0,0,10,0)(880,440,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(440,660,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(880,440,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(440,660,150,2048)
> ;
> ct4=|t(550,0,150,1048)(550,0,150,1048)
> ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048)
> ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048)
> ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048)
> ; When remote link unkeys
> ct8=|t(0,0,10,0)(350,440,50,2048)(0,0,50,0)(880,440,50,2048)(0,0,50,0)(350,440,50,2048)
> ;
> ct9=|t(660,680,100,4000)(0,0,100,0)(660,680,100,1000)(0,0,100,0)(660,680,100,250)
> remotetx=|t(500,0,10,1048)(0,0,10,0)(1000,0,10,1048)
> remotemon=|t(1009,0,50,2048)
> cmdmode=|icm ;(220,247,262,294,330,350,392,2048)
> functcomplete=|iEN
> patchup=rpt/callproceeding
> patchdown=rpt/callterminated
> ;
> ;
> ; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted
> ; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater
> ;
> [wait-times29655]
> telemwait=150
> idwait=10
> unkeywait=650
> calltermwait=150
>
>
> but, regardless of how I change the CT's, it remains the same, when
> asterisk is stopped and restarted, even when the machine is rebooted,
> the courtesy tone remains the same.
>
>
>
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Tue Feb  3 19:53:39 2015
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:53:39 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com> <54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>

The only one that is global is the link tx tone.  No reason you couldn't define the other ones.  For example I have my unlinked courtesy tone on my public node ct=26 and the private one in the same box ct=31.  The only one that is global is the link transmit tone.

Corey

> On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Steve Agee <n5zua at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Courtesy tones are global. So, no way to have different stanzas for different nodes. At least, that's what I found a while back when I tried to have different stanzas. Maybe a newer SVN is out that I have not tested that allows it, I'm not sure.
> 
> N5ZUA
> 
>> On 2/3/2015 9:46 AM, Geoff wrote:
>> So, I've got some defines ...
>> 
>> ;******************
>> ;* Stanza Defines *
>> ;vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>> ;
>> ;controlstates=controlstates29655
>> scheduler=schedule29655
>> morse=morse29657
>> macro=macro29655
>> functions=functions29655
>> phone_functions=functions29655
>> link_functions=functions29655
>> telemetry=telemetry29655
>> wait_times=wait-times29655
>> ;
>> idtalkover=|iW5OMR R
>> unlinkedct=ct2                                  ;Courtesy tone sound the
>> node makes when not linked
>> remotect=ct3                                    ;Courtesy tone sound the
>> node makes when linked
>> linkunkeyct=ct8                                 ;Courtesy tone sound the
>> node makes when a remote linked system unkeys
>> nolocallinkct=0
>> eannmode=2
>> echolinkdefault=0
>> echolinkdynamic=0
>> nounkeyct=0
>> telemdefault=2                                  ;temetry mode
>> ;                                               0 = telemetry output off,
>> ;                                               1 = telemetry output on,
>> ;                                               2 = timed telemetry
>> output on command execution and for a short time thereafter
>> 
>> specifically, at this time, I'm concerned about Courtesy tones.  So,
>> let's go down to the telemetry stanza for 29655...
>> 
>> [telemetry29655]
>> ;
>> ;when NOT linked
>> ct2=|t(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,100,2048)
>> ;
>> ;when Linked
>> ct3=|t(0,0,10,0)(880,440,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(440,660,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(880,440,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(440,660,150,2048)
>> ;
>> ct4=|t(550,0,150,1048)(550,0,150,1048)
>> ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048)
>> ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048)
>> ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048)
>> ; When remote link unkeys
>> ct8=|t(0,0,10,0)(350,440,50,2048)(0,0,50,0)(880,440,50,2048)(0,0,50,0)(350,440,50,2048)
>> ;
>> ct9=|t(660,680,100,4000)(0,0,100,0)(660,680,100,1000)(0,0,100,0)(660,680,100,250)
>> remotetx=|t(500,0,10,1048)(0,0,10,0)(1000,0,10,1048)
>> remotemon=|t(1009,0,50,2048)
>> cmdmode=|icm ;(220,247,262,294,330,350,392,2048)
>> functcomplete=|iEN
>> patchup=rpt/callproceeding
>> patchdown=rpt/callterminated
>> ;
>> ;
>> ; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted
>> ; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater
>> ;
>> [wait-times29655]
>> telemwait=150
>> idwait=10
>> unkeywait=650
>> calltermwait=150
>> 
>> 
>> but, regardless of how I change the CT's, it remains the same, when
>> asterisk is stopped and restarted, even when the machine is rebooted,
>> the courtesy tone remains the same.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From sam.nabkey at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 21:49:41 2015
From: sam.nabkey at gmail.com (Sam Nabkey)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:49:41 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com> <54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>
	<CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>
Message-ID: <CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>

Try this:

unlinkedct=ct9
remotect=ct3
linkunkeyct=ct8
nounkeyct=0

In your Node Stanza..   Or whatever your tones are defined at..


On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe at repeater.net> wrote:

> The only one that is global is the link tx tone.  No reason you couldn't
> define the other ones.  For example I have my unlinked courtesy tone on my
> public node ct=26 and the private one in the same box ct=31.  The only one
> that is global is the link transmit tone.
>
> Corey
>
> > On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Steve Agee <n5zua at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Courtesy tones are global. So, no way to have different stanzas for
> different nodes. At least, that's what I found a while back when I tried to
> have different stanzas. Maybe a newer SVN is out that I have not tested
> that allows it, I'm not sure.
> >
> > N5ZUA
> >
> >> On 2/3/2015 9:46 AM, Geoff wrote:
> >> So, I've got some defines ...
> >>
> >> ;******************
> >> ;* Stanza Defines *
> >> ;vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
> >> ;
> >> ;controlstates=controlstates29655
> >> scheduler=schedule29655
> >> morse=morse29657
> >> macro=macro29655
> >> functions=functions29655
> >> phone_functions=functions29655
> >> link_functions=functions29655
> >> telemetry=telemetry29655
> >> wait_times=wait-times29655
> >> ;
> >> idtalkover=|iW5OMR R
> >> unlinkedct=ct2                                  ;Courtesy tone sound the
> >> node makes when not linked
> >> remotect=ct3                                    ;Courtesy tone sound the
> >> node makes when linked
> >> linkunkeyct=ct8                                 ;Courtesy tone sound the
> >> node makes when a remote linked system unkeys
> >> nolocallinkct=0
> >> eannmode=2
> >> echolinkdefault=0
> >> echolinkdynamic=0
> >> nounkeyct=0
> >> telemdefault=2                                  ;temetry mode
> >> ;                                               0 = telemetry output
> off,
> >> ;                                               1 = telemetry output on,
> >> ;                                               2 = timed telemetry
> >> output on command execution and for a short time thereafter
> >>
> >> specifically, at this time, I'm concerned about Courtesy tones.  So,
> >> let's go down to the telemetry stanza for 29655...
> >>
> >> [telemetry29655]
> >> ;
> >> ;when NOT linked
> >>
> ct2=|t(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,10,2048)(0,0,10,0)(350,440,100,2048)
> >> ;
> >> ;when Linked
> >>
> ct3=|t(0,0,10,0)(880,440,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(440,660,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(880,440,150,2048)(0,0,10,0)(440,660,150,2048)
> >> ;
> >> ct4=|t(550,0,150,1048)(550,0,150,1048)
> >> ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048)
> >> ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048)
> >> ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048)
> >> ; When remote link unkeys
> >>
> ct8=|t(0,0,10,0)(350,440,50,2048)(0,0,50,0)(880,440,50,2048)(0,0,50,0)(350,440,50,2048)
> >> ;
> >>
> ct9=|t(660,680,100,4000)(0,0,100,0)(660,680,100,1000)(0,0,100,0)(660,680,100,250)
> >> remotetx=|t(500,0,10,1048)(0,0,10,0)(1000,0,10,1048)
> >> remotemon=|t(1009,0,50,2048)
> >> cmdmode=|icm ;(220,247,262,294,330,350,392,2048)
> >> functcomplete=|iEN
> >> patchup=rpt/callproceeding
> >> patchdown=rpt/callterminated
> >> ;
> >> ;
> >> ; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted
> >> ; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater
> >> ;
> >> [wait-times29655]
> >> telemwait=150
> >> idwait=10
> >> unkeywait=650
> >> calltermwait=150
> >>
> >>
> >> but, regardless of how I change the CT's, it remains the same, when
> >> asterisk is stopped and restarted, even when the machine is rebooted,
> >> the courtesy tone remains the same.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 22:36:40 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:36:40 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com>
	<54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>	<CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>
	<CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54D14D78.3040009@gmail.com>


On 02/03/2015 03:49 PM, Sam Nabkey wrote:
> Try this:
>
> unlinkedct=ct9
> remotect=ct3
> linkunkeyct=ct8
> nounkeyct=0
>
> In your Node Stanza..   Or whatever your tones are defined at..

It just got stranger...

I commented ( ; ) all of the defined tones in rpt.conf, in both node
stanza's and the thing -still- has the same courtesy tone.

uhm ...  dat ain' 'posed ta happen... izzit?

it's got ME scratching my noggin!



From ve6sar at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 22:53:56 2015
From: ve6sar at gmail.com (Sean Smith)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:53:56 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
Message-ID: <CAHbVJjLohfT57q_L+oKgB36fQDE22M0+jkr4HmaWdUd-tgW0Sw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Has anyone tried having multiple simpleusb nodes running on one BBB? I'm
interested in running up to 4 for a linking controller.

Thanks
Sean VE6SAR
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From kf7mbk at w7ara.net  Tue Feb  3 23:05:59 2015
From: kf7mbk at w7ara.net (Mike M)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:05:59 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <54D14D78.3040009@gmail.com>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com> <54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>
	<CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>
	<CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>
	<54D14D78.3040009@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADpNt1PK_hUkasFRk4zZ1p=a04z57psMMaqUkm9NZ43kq7gfbw@mail.gmail.com>

There are hard coded defaults so commenting CTs will really confuse you.

Create a unique tone and replace it one by one to see what changes.

Regards,
Mike Montalvo, KF7MBK
ARA Membership Chair
www.w7ara.org







On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Geoff <ars.w5omr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 02/03/2015 03:49 PM, Sam Nabkey wrote:
>> Try this:
>>
>> unlinkedct=ct9
>> remotect=ct3
>> linkunkeyct=ct8
>> nounkeyct=0
>>
>> In your Node Stanza..   Or whatever your tones are defined at..
>
> It just got stranger...
>
> I commented ( ; ) all of the defined tones in rpt.conf, in both node
> stanza's and the thing -still- has the same courtesy tone.
>
> uhm ...  dat ain' 'posed ta happen... izzit?
>
> it's got ME scratching my noggin!
>
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From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb  4 00:04:17 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:04:17 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
In-Reply-To: <CAHbVJjLohfT57q_L+oKgB36fQDE22M0+jkr4HmaWdUd-tgW0Sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHbVJjLohfT57q_L+oKgB36fQDE22M0+jkr4HmaWdUd-tgW0Sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W47A94F60D6230C0D31661DBA3A0@phx.gbl>

Sean,

 I do not recommend more than one active radio node on the BBB. Use multiple BBB's and put one node on each. Link them together locally. I know a number of people doing this with great success. Each BBB would be a server defined at allstarlink.org and each would be on a unique port - 4566,7,8,9.

It is easy to do but if you need more help just ask.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:53:56 -0700
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?

Hi everyone,
Has anyone tried having multiple simpleusb nodes running on one BBB? I'm interested in running up to 4 for a linking controller.
ThanksSean VE6SAR

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From ldrolet at cgocable.ca  Wed Feb  4 00:11:56 2015
From: ldrolet at cgocable.ca (Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 19:11:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Listener
Message-ID: <19CA9342DF394648971CD534E0E52B88@PCdeclient>

Hello to you all,

I have people who would like to listen to amateur repeater without having an amature radio
I would like to have a method to do it, so they can listen only, either with IAXRPT or with Zoiper without giving them access to the PTT so they can't pass onto amateur bands. Does anyone have an idea that would have a solution to use IAXRPT without giving them access to the PTT?

Thank you and Happy Day
Luc
VE2LUQ
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 00:17:27 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:17:27 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <CADpNt1PK_hUkasFRk4zZ1p=a04z57psMMaqUkm9NZ43kq7gfbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com> <54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>
	<CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>
	<CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>
	<54D14D78.3040009@gmail.com>
	<CADpNt1PK_hUkasFRk4zZ1p=a04z57psMMaqUkm9NZ43kq7gfbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54D16517.5060300@gmail.com>


On 02/03/2015 05:05 PM, Mike M wrote:
> There are hard coded defaults so commenting CTs will really confuse you.
>
> Create a unique tone and replace it one by one to see what changes.
>

ah, but there's the issue, Mike...

The CT that's playing now ...
*IS* a custom CT that is now no longer defined.




From n3fe at repeater.net  Wed Feb  4 00:24:49 2015
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:24:49 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <54D16517.5060300@gmail.com>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com> <54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>
	<CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>
	<CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>
	<54D14D78.3040009@gmail.com>
	<CADpNt1PK_hUkasFRk4zZ1p=a04z57psMMaqUkm9NZ43kq7gfbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<54D16517.5060300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3B1DF2E3-0847-4983-8D2D-E7EFB1369FE0@repeater.net>

Did you do a rpt reload at the asterisk cli and you commented it out?

Corey

> On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Geoff <ars.w5omr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 02/03/2015 05:05 PM, Mike M wrote:
>> There are hard coded defaults so commenting CTs will really confuse you.
>> 
>> Create a unique tone and replace it one by one to see what changes.
> 
> ah, but there's the issue, Mike...
> 
> The CT that's playing now ...
> *IS* a custom CT that is now no longer defined.
> 
> 
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 00:32:14 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:32:14 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <CAO8Aawqmv=nhpBdSdEQtfbL46EY1HDekizPzyC3h_mntqnY-Wg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com>	<54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>	<CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>	<CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>	<54D14D78.3040009@gmail.com>	<CADpNt1PK_hUkasFRk4zZ1p=a04z57psMMaqUkm9NZ43kq7gfbw@mail.gmail.com>	<54D16517.5060300@gmail.com>
	<CAO8Aawqmv=nhpBdSdEQtfbL46EY1HDekizPzyC3h_mntqnY-Wg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54D1688E.4070407@gmail.com>

I've been asked the same by others, as well...

> Did you reload or restart asterisk after making the changes? 
>
> Did you do a rpt reload at the asterisk cli and you commented it out?

Even though, as a seasoned Linux guy (I don't know *everything* about
Linux, but I know how to find what I need) and it goes against my Linux
teachings, but I even (*gasp*) REBOOTED the node box, and have the same
tone, after -all- of them were commented out in rpt.conf.

Next?




From petem001 at hotmail.com  Wed Feb  4 00:50:29 2015
From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:50:29 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Listener
In-Reply-To: <19CA9342DF394648971CD534E0E52B88@PCdeclient>
References: <19CA9342DF394648971CD534E0E52B88@PCdeclient>
Message-ID: <BAY176-W525A409C557EA57E488938973A0@phx.gbl>

Luc Can I call you somewhere? there is an easy way to do this.
Pierre VE2PF

From: ldrolet at cgocable.ca
To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:11:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Listener








Hello to you 
all,

I have people 
who would like to listen to amateur repeater without having an amature 
radio
I would like to have a method to do it, so they can listen only, either with IAXRPT or 
with Zoiper without giving 
them access to the 
PTT so they can't pass onto amateur bands. Does 
anyone have an idea that would 
have a solution to use 
IAXRPT without giving them access to the PTT?

Thank you and Happy Day
Luc
VE2LUQ

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From ve6sar at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 01:24:57 2015
From: ve6sar at gmail.com (Sean Smith)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:24:57 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W47A94F60D6230C0D31661DBA3A0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAHbVJjLohfT57q_L+oKgB36fQDE22M0+jkr4HmaWdUd-tgW0Sw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W47A94F60D6230C0D31661DBA3A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7498883208193278789@unknownmsgid>

Thanks Doug,

I might just go with a hardware controller then.

We don't need the VoIP linking, I was looking for a less expensive
alternative to a hardware controller.

By the time I got 3 or 4 BBBs and the bits to build the usb interfaces I be
at the cost of a hardware link controller so might as well go with one of
those

Thanks for the help.

Sean VE6SAR

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2015, at 17:04, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

 Sean,

 I do not recommend more than one active radio node on the BBB. Use
multiple BBB's and put one node on each. Link them together locally. I know
a number of people doing this with great success. Each BBB would be a
server defined at allstarlink.org and each would be on a unique port -
4566,7,8,9.

It is easy to do but if you need more help just ask.




*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
<http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*


------------------------------
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:53:56 -0700
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?

Hi everyone,

Has anyone tried having multiple simpleusb nodes running on one BBB? I'm
interested in running up to 4 for a linking controller.

Thanks
Sean VE6SAR

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From ke2n at cs.com  Wed Feb  4 01:38:52 2015
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:38:52 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Listener
In-Reply-To: <19CA9342DF394648971CD534E0E52B88@PCdeclient>
References: <19CA9342DF394648971CD534E0E52B88@PCdeclient>
Message-ID: <019e01d0401b$54b30f20$fe192d60$@cs.com>

One way to do that is to stream repeater audio to the internet. There are
several ways to do this. If you only have a couple of listeners you can
stream to them directly out of your asterisk box.  If you have a lot of them
then a separate streaming server (or service) should be used.

 

See this posting for some information:

 

http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2014-April/009203.html

 

73

Ken

 

 

 

 

From: Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ [mailto:ldrolet at cgocable.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:12 PM
To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Listener

 

Hello to you all,

I have people who would like to listen to amateur repeater without having an
amature radio
I would like to have a method to do it, so they can listen only, either with
IAXRPT or with Zoiper without giving them access to the PTT so they can't
pass onto amateur bands. Does anyone have an idea that would have a solution
to use IAXRPT without giving them access to the PTT?

Thank you and Happy Day
Luc
VE2LUQ

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From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb  4 02:31:56 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 21:31:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
In-Reply-To: <7498883208193278789@unknownmsgid>
References: <CAHbVJjLohfT57q_L+oKgB36fQDE22M0+jkr4HmaWdUd-tgW0Sw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W47A94F60D6230C0D31661DBA3A0@phx.gbl>,
	<7498883208193278789@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W154B918E5200219E95D7D4BA3A0@phx.gbl>

Sean,

 I guess I don't understand what you are doing. It you have four repeaters wouldn't you want one BBB per repeater to control it? You need the same USB stuff to run on one PC as four BBB's - assuming you are connecting to four radios. Is this what you are doing?

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


From: ve6sar at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:24:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

Thanks Doug,
I might just go with a hardware controller then. 
We don't need the VoIP linking, I was looking for a less expensive alternative to a hardware controller. 
By the time I got 3 or 4 BBBs and the bits to build the usb interfaces I be at the cost of a hardware link controller so might as well go with one of those 
Thanks for the help. 
Sean VE6SAR

Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2015, at 17:04, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:




Sean,

 I do not recommend more than one active radio node on the BBB. Use multiple BBB's and put one node on each. Link them together locally. I know a number of people doing this with great success. Each BBB would be a server defined at allstarlink.org and each would be on a unique port - 4566,7,8,9.

It is easy to do but if you need more help just ask.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:53:56 -0700
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?

Hi everyone,
Has anyone tried having multiple simpleusb nodes running on one BBB? I'm interested in running up to 4 for a linking controller.
ThanksSean VE6SAR

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From ve6sar at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 02:43:50 2015
From: ve6sar at gmail.com (Sean Smith)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:43:50 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W154B918E5200219E95D7D4BA3A0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAHbVJjLohfT57q_L+oKgB36fQDE22M0+jkr4HmaWdUd-tgW0Sw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W47A94F60D6230C0D31661DBA3A0@phx.gbl>
	<7498883208193278789@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU172-W154B918E5200219E95D7D4BA3A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <-560674545857446888@unknownmsgid>

Hi Doug,

I'm building a linking hub and had hoped to to use app_rpt to do the
linking between the various links as a cheaper alternative to a hardware
controller.

Sean

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2015, at 19:32, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

 Sean,

 I guess I don't understand what you are doing. It you have four repeaters
wouldn't you want one BBB per repeater to control it? You need the same USB
stuff to run on one PC as four BBB's - assuming you are connecting to four
radios. Is this what you are doing?



*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
<http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*


------------------------------
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:24:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

Thanks Doug,

I might just go with a hardware controller then.

We don't need the VoIP linking, I was looking for a less expensive
alternative to a hardware controller.

By the time I got 3 or 4 BBBs and the bits to build the usb interfaces I be
at the cost of a hardware link controller so might as well go with one of
those

Thanks for the help.

Sean VE6SAR

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2015, at 17:04, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

 Sean,

 I do not recommend more than one active radio node on the BBB. Use
multiple BBB's and put one node on each. Link them together locally. I know
a number of people doing this with great success. Each BBB would be a
server defined at allstarlink.org and each would be on a unique port -
4566,7,8,9.

It is easy to do but if you need more help just ask.




*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
<http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*


------------------------------
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:53:56 -0700
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?

Hi everyone,

Has anyone tried having multiple simpleusb nodes running on one BBB? I'm
interested in running up to 4 for a linking controller.

Thanks
Sean VE6SAR

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From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb  4 02:59:18 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 21:59:18 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
In-Reply-To: <-560674545857446888@unknownmsgid>
References: <CAHbVJjLohfT57q_L+oKgB36fQDE22M0+jkr4HmaWdUd-tgW0Sw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W47A94F60D6230C0D31661DBA3A0@phx.gbl>
	<7498883208193278789@unknownmsgid>,
	<BLU172-W154B918E5200219E95D7D4BA3A0@phx.gbl>,
	<-560674545857446888@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W263A67309F5300AFD43E9ABA3A0@phx.gbl>

OK, so define a linking hub? Would you have any radios connected directly to it?

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


From: ve6sar at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:43:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

Hi Doug,
I'm building a linking hub and had hoped to to use app_rpt to do the linking between the various links as a cheaper alternative to a hardware controller. 
Sean
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2015, at 19:32, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:




Sean,

 I guess I don't understand what you are doing. It you have four repeaters wouldn't you want one BBB per repeater to control it? You need the same USB stuff to run on one PC as four BBB's - assuming you are connecting to four radios. Is this what you are doing?

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


From: ve6sar at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:24:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

Thanks Doug,
I might just go with a hardware controller then. 
We don't need the VoIP linking, I was looking for a less expensive alternative to a hardware controller. 
By the time I got 3 or 4 BBBs and the bits to build the usb interfaces I be at the cost of a hardware link controller so might as well go with one of those 
Thanks for the help. 
Sean VE6SAR

Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2015, at 17:04, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:




Sean,

 I do not recommend more than one active radio node on the BBB. Use multiple BBB's and put one node on each. Link them together locally. I know a number of people doing this with great success. Each BBB would be a server defined at allstarlink.org and each would be on a unique port - 4566,7,8,9.

It is easy to do but if you need more help just ask.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:53:56 -0700
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?

Hi everyone,
Has anyone tried having multiple simpleusb nodes running on one BBB? I'm interested in running up to 4 for a linking controller.
ThanksSean VE6SAR

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From ve6sar at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 03:14:21 2015
From: ve6sar at gmail.com (Sean Smith)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:14:21 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W263A67309F5300AFD43E9ABA3A0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAHbVJjLohfT57q_L+oKgB36fQDE22M0+jkr4HmaWdUd-tgW0Sw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W47A94F60D6230C0D31661DBA3A0@phx.gbl>
	<7498883208193278789@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU172-W154B918E5200219E95D7D4BA3A0@phx.gbl>
	<-560674545857446888@unknownmsgid>
	<BLU172-W263A67309F5300AFD43E9ABA3A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <-3540605947999949715@unknownmsgid>

Yes there would be radios directly connected to link our various vhf
repeaters.

There's no way to get internet at any of the sites so it's old fashioned RF
linking.

Right now we have a UHF repeater configured with zero tail etc acting as
the linking hub but we'd like more control over how the audio paths are
between repeaters

Sean

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2015, at 19:59, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

 OK, so define a linking hub? Would you have any radios connected directly
to it?




*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
<http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*


------------------------------
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:43:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

Hi Doug,

I'm building a linking hub and had hoped to to use app_rpt to do the
linking between the various links as a cheaper alternative to a hardware
controller.

Sean

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2015, at 19:32, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

 Sean,

 I guess I don't understand what you are doing. It you have four repeaters
wouldn't you want one BBB per repeater to control it? You need the same USB
stuff to run on one PC as four BBB's - assuming you are connecting to four
radios. Is this what you are doing?



*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
<http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*


------------------------------
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:24:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

Thanks Doug,

I might just go with a hardware controller then.

We don't need the VoIP linking, I was looking for a less expensive
alternative to a hardware controller.

By the time I got 3 or 4 BBBs and the bits to build the usb interfaces I be
at the cost of a hardware link controller so might as well go with one of
those

Thanks for the help.

Sean VE6SAR

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 3, 2015, at 17:04, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

 Sean,

 I do not recommend more than one active radio node on the BBB. Use
multiple BBB's and put one node on each. Link them together locally. I know
a number of people doing this with great success. Each BBB would be a
server defined at allstarlink.org and each would be on a unique port -
4566,7,8,9.

It is easy to do but if you need more help just ask.




*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
<http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*


------------------------------
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:53:56 -0700
From: ve6sar at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] BBB multiple simpleUSB nodes?

Hi everyone,

Has anyone tried having multiple simpleusb nodes running on one BBB? I'm
interested in running up to 4 for a linking controller.

Thanks
Sean VE6SAR

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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 13:47:49 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 07:47:49 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <CAO8Aawq1KJCj3YOf-YnxxPDevaP6nsOp4z=yYh3fAVts2LE3aQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com>	<54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>	<CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>	<CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>	<54D14D78.3040009@gmail.com>	<CADpNt1PK_hUkasFRk4zZ1p=a04z57psMMaqUkm9NZ43kq7gfbw@mail.gmail.com>	<54D16517.5060300@gmail.com>	<CAO8Aawqmv=nhpBdSdEQtfbL46EY1HDekizPzyC3h_mntqnY-Wg@mail.gmail.com>	<54D1688E.4070407@gmail.com>
	<CAO8Aawq1KJCj3YOf-YnxxPDevaP6nsOp4z=yYh3fAVts2LE3aQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54D22305.80001@gmail.com>

I believe I found my gremlin...

sitting here this morning, and asterisk restarted.  hmmm...

I happened to be logged into the node box via ssh (backyard repeater
-is- at the house, just in a different room, with no monitor) and got
the 'Segmentation fault' error messages scrawled across the screen...

time to fsck that drive!

(did that for you, Duuuuuuuude) ;-)


From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 14:41:16 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:41:16 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf questions
In-Reply-To: <CAO8Aawq1KJCj3YOf-YnxxPDevaP6nsOp4z=yYh3fAVts2LE3aQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54D0ED3F.1060608@gmail.com>	<54D1232B.5040804@earthlink.net>	<CA19A7FD-3A7E-48C2-A770-3313424BBC41@repeater.net>	<CAO8Aawp=12YGD+WXC9vJ4W4t0GL61SZKc9cufWVQL_eMwR743A@mail.gmail.com>	<54D14D78.3040009@gmail.com>	<CADpNt1PK_hUkasFRk4zZ1p=a04z57psMMaqUkm9NZ43kq7gfbw@mail.gmail.com>	<54D16517.5060300@gmail.com>	<CAO8Aawqmv=nhpBdSdEQtfbL46EY1HDekizPzyC3h_mntqnY-Wg@mail.gmail.com>	<54D1688E.4070407@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <54D22F8C.9050702@gmail.com>

[root at W5OMR /etc/asterisk/custom]# /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: line 125: 
7375 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) nice -n $PRIORITY
${ASTSBINDIR}/asterisk -f ${CLIARGS} ${ASTARGS} >&/dev/${TTY} < /dev/${TTY}
Asterisk ended with exit status 139
Asterisk exited on signal 11.
Automatically restarting Asterisk.
mpg123: no process killed
/usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: line 125: 17574 Segmentation fault      (core
dumped) nice -n $PRIORITY ${ASTSBINDIR}/asterisk -f ${CLIARGS}
${ASTARGS} >&/dev/${TTY} < /dev/${TTY}
Asterisk ended with exit status 139
Asterisk exited on signal 11.
Automatically restarting Asterisk.
mpg123: no process killed
/usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: line 125: 18918 Segmentation fault      (core
dumped) nice -n $PRIORITY ${ASTSBINDIR}/asterisk -f ${CLIARGS}
${ASTARGS} >&/dev/${TTY} < /dev/${TTY}
Asterisk ended with exit status 139
Asterisk exited on signal 11.
Automatically restarting Asterisk.
mpg123: no process killed

[root at W5OMR /etc/asterisk/custom]# dmesg | grep hd
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
hda: LITE-ON CD-ROM LTN-4891S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdb: WDC WD800JB-00CRA1, ATA DISK drive
hdb: max request size: 128KiB
hdb: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63,
UDMA(100)
hdb: cache flushes not supported
 hdb: hdb1 hdb2
hda: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 96kB Cache, UDMA(33)
EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal
Adding 1020116k swap on /dev/hdb2.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1020116k
[root at W5OMR /etc/asterisk/custom]#

You linux gurus... here's my Achilles heel ... harddrive tuning.  Scares
the hell out of me.
I instinctively went to e2fsck /dev/hdb2 and I get

WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.

Do you really want to continue (y/n)? uhm ... I guess 'no' ... maybe...

{{{shudder}}} what to do, what to do...

I asked the system for help ...

Usage: e2fsck [-panyrcdfvstDFSV] [-b superblock] [-B blocksize]
                [-I inode_buffer_blocks] [-P process_inode_size]
                [-l|-L bad_blocks_file] [-C fd] [-j external_journal]
                [-E extended-options] device

Emergency help:
 -p                   Automatic repair (no questions)
 -n                   Make no changes to the filesystem
 -y                   Assume "yes" to all questions
 -c                   Check for bad blocks and add them to the badblock list
 -f                   Force checking even if filesystem is marked clean
 -v                   Be verbose
 -b superblock        Use alternative superblock
 -B blocksize         Force blocksize when looking for superblock
 -j external_journal  Set location of the external journal
 -l bad_blocks_file   Add to badblocks list
 -L bad_blocks_file   Set badblocks list


Hmmm... ok.  -n. Go check it, and make no changes, just report back
what's going on.  Sounds like the option to try.


[root at W5OMR /sys/power]# e2fsck -n /dev/hdb2
e2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
Warning!  /dev/hdb2 is mounted.
Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb2

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
    e2fsck -b 8193 <device>

... and, it just did it again ...

:/usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: line 125: 21504 Segmentation fault      (core
dumped) nice -n $PRIORITY ${ASTSBINDIR}/asterisk -f ${CLIARGS}
${ASTARGS} >&/dev/${TTY} < /dev/${TTY}
Asterisk ended with exit status 139
Asterisk exited on signal 11.
Automatically restarting Asterisk.
mpg123: no process killed
/usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: line 125: 22464 Segmentation fault      (core
dumped) nice -n $PRIORITY ${ASTSBINDIR}/asterisk -f ${CLIARGS}
${ASTARGS} >&/dev/${TTY} < /dev/${TTY}
Asterisk ended with exit status 139
Asterisk exited on signal 11.
Automatically restarting Asterisk.
mpg123: no process killed




From n3fe at repeater.net  Wed Feb  4 16:17:41 2015
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:17:41 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux & CF
Message-ID: <CAJ+Z61Gq6Sec05L1+tNbOYs0KfsFufT6jeQ3F0fmg4s6fB=i=w@mail.gmail.com>

What there ever an answer to this below?  I am trying my first one and
stuck at the same place...

------Original email below--------

Hi Guys,

I'm using Randy's method of putting Limey on a 2GB CF card, and creating
an extra partition for storage (here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/43).

Everything goes as it should, but the boot stops at: EXT2-fs: Warning
checktime reached. Running e2fsck is recommended. Obviously the thin
client wants to check it before it mounts it (when I created the
partition, it did say it would be checked every 27 mounts or similar).

I get a flashing cursor, and I can type in whatever I like - but it
won't do anything!

Has anyone else had this? If so, how did you overcome it?

Cheers,

James
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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 16:19:35 2015
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:19:35 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
Message-ID: <CAJNyT0_tyXw=O_feSivHq-Zgrr=CYnjntKT8E+20BtXd=cSUWg@mail.gmail.com>

This is probably something that has been asked a lot before, but with new
advances to the pi, more ram etc. I am curious if anyone has it working. A
lot of people who want to set up a node keep ask me if it works on the pi.
Does AllStar work on the raspberry pi for a simple node?

73
Kd0whb
Skyler



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amsatnet.info
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From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb  4 16:55:37 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:55:37 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT0_tyXw=O_feSivHq-Zgrr=CYnjntKT8E+20BtXd=cSUWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_tyXw=O_feSivHq-Zgrr=CYnjntKT8E+20BtXd=cSUWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W16F7822B5FAC812BD3370DBA3A0@phx.gbl>

Skyler,

 The quick answer is no, at least for the model B.  The new model 2 looks more promising but I am told it still has the same Ethernet tacked to USB which is very inefficient. It also is not yet available in any quantity and any new board requires a great deal of work to get it to a production Allstar system.

The Beaglebone Black works exceptionally well and is a proven design. Granted there are some things we would like to see improved, like a faster processor and more USB ports but neither are stopping it from working at this point. If you need more USB ports use a good hub. More RAM has not been a factor since Allstar runs quite nicely in 512K. 

As I mentioned before we are looking at new boards but I suspect the BBB will be supported for some time to come so it is still a good choice.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:19:35 -0700
From: electricity440 at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status

This is probably something that has been asked a lot before, but with new advances to the pi, more ram etc. I am curious if anyone has it working. A lot of people who want to set up a node keep ask me if it works on the pi. Does AllStar work on the raspberry pi for a simple node?
73Kd0whbSkyler



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From email at jonbyrne.com  Wed Feb  4 17:23:10 2015
From: email at jonbyrne.com (Jon Byrne)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 17:23:10 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W16F7822B5FAC812BD3370DBA3A0@phx.gbl>
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I have a Raspberry Pi 2 in hand now so happy to do any tests I will see
what I can get together myself but if anyone has already tried on the RPi
one and has any notes let me know.

Additionally on the point that they are not availible in any quantity they
have sold 150,000 ish already, thats is just over 48 hours and they are
making 20,000 a day so I suspect that they will have surpassed the BBB on
that front if not already.

That being said obviously Dougs comments about the ethernet & usb are
potentially a stumbling block but I think its worth a try.

Jon
2E0RFU

------------
Jon Byrne - 2E0RFU
email at jonbyrne.com -jonbyrne.com - 07842 230 604

On 4 February 2015 at 16:55, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

> Skyler,
>
>  The quick answer is no, at least for the model B.  The new model 2 looks
> more promising but I am told it still has the same Ethernet tacked to USB
> which is very inefficient. It also is not yet available in any quantity and
> any new board requires a great deal of work to get it to a production
> Allstar system.
>
> The Beaglebone Black works exceptionally well and is a proven design.
> Granted there are some things we would like to see improved, like a faster
> processor and more USB ports but neither are stopping it from working at
> this point. If you need more USB ports use a good hub. More RAM has not
> been a factor since Allstar runs quite nicely in 512K.
>
> As I mentioned before we are looking at new boards but I suspect the BBB
> will be supported for some time to come so it is still a good choice.
>
>
>
> *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:19:35 -0700
> From: electricity440 at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
>
>
> This is probably something that has been asked a lot before, but with new
> advances to the pi, more ram etc. I am curious if anyone has it working. A
> lot of people who want to set up a node keep ask me if it works on the pi.
> Does AllStar work on the raspberry pi for a simple node?
>
> 73
> Kd0whb
> Skyler
>
>
>
> --
> Skyler Fennell
> amsatnet.info
> KD?WHB
> electricity440 at gmail.com
>
>
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From steve at donegan.org  Wed Feb  4 17:31:10 2015
From: steve at donegan.org (Steven Donegan)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 17:31:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <CALLtVpUr7t_LiOXFpr=UaEiJHGQLbJ3mXzPq8WVeYsCgCv3NGw@mail.gmail.com>
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I ordered one - they are back ordered for 10 days :-) I am thinking about attemption to use the larger GPIO (40 pins) to potentially eliminate the need for USB entirely. I have designed boards for the Pi before. I am very interested in this platform. That said I also have BBB's and quite a few other single board systems.
?____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

      From: Jon Byrne <email at jonbyrne.com>
 To: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> 
Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
   
I have a Raspberry Pi 2 in hand now so happy to do any tests I will see what I can get together myself but if anyone has already tried on the RPi one and has any notes let me know.

Additionally on the point that they are not availible in any quantity they have sold 150,000 ish already, thats is just over 48 hours and they are making 20,000 a day so I suspect that they will have surpassed the BBB on that front if not already.

That being said obviously Dougs comments about the ethernet & usb are potentially a stumbling block but I think its worth a try.

Jon
2E0RFU

------------
Jon Byrne - 2E0RFU
email at jonbyrne.com -jonbyrne.com - 07842 230 604

On 4 February 2015 at 16:55, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:



Skyler,

?The quick answer is no, at least for the model B.? The new model 2 looks more promising but I am told it still has the same Ethernet tacked to USB which is very inefficient. It also is not yet available in any quantity and any new board requires a great deal of work to get it to a production Allstar system.

The Beaglebone Black works exceptionally well and is a proven design. Granted there are some things we would like to see improved, like a faster processor and more USB ports but neither are stopping it from working at this point. If you need more USB ports use a good hub. More RAM has not been a factor since Allstar runs quite nicely in 512K. 

As I mentioned before we are looking at new boards but I suspect the BBB will be supported for some time to come so it is still a good choice.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:19:35 -0700
From: electricity440 at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status

This is probably something that has been asked a lot before, but with new advances to the pi, more ram etc.?I am curious if anyone has it working. A lot of people who want to set up a node keep?ask me if it works on the pi. Does AllStar work on the raspberry pi for a simple node?
73Kd0whbSkyler



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From szingman at msgstor.com  Wed Feb  4 20:37:32 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:37:32 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1423069204.32576.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.1.1423069204.32576.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com>

Skyler,
Yes, Allstar will operate on a Pi as a simplex node.
Is it perfect? No. The USB has to be droped back to 1.1 but it does 
function.

I did not create a image that can be burned to a card and run. I have 
some scripts and instructions that will
help someone compile and run a simplex node on a Pi. It's not a hold 
your hand project. It's a "roll your own"

Contact me off list and I'll point you in the direction.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 2/4/2015 12:00 PM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:19:35 -0700
> From: Skyler F<electricity440 at gmail.com>
> To:"app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org"  <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAJNyT0_tyXw=O_feSivHq-Zgrr=CYnjntKT8E+20BtXd=cSUWg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> This is probably something that has been asked a lot before, but with new
> advances to the pi, more ram etc. I am curious if anyone has it working. A
> lot of people who want to set up a node keep ask me if it works on the pi.
> Does AllStar work on the raspberry pi for a simple node?
>
> 73
> Kd0whb
> Skyler

-- 
"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
1st Law of Logic



From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb  4 20:56:37 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:56:37 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com>
References: <mailman.1.1423069204.32576.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>,
	<54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W405882206B0D51C2ED73DDBA3A0@phx.gbl>

Be very careful running Allstar on the Pi. It is subject to all kinds of problems including hangups. We already went through all the testing on that platform a year ago and that is why we are using the Beaglebone Black.

I can't understand why anyone would want to run Allstar on the Pi when you have a perfectly good and very easy to use setup with all the bells and whistles on the BBB that just works. Is it just because you have it sitting there and you want to use it? All of this stuff is so cheap. Buy a BBB!!!
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:37:32 -0500
> From: szingman at msgstor.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
> 
> Skyler,
> Yes, Allstar will operate on a Pi as a simplex node.
> Is it perfect? No. The USB has to be droped back to 1.1 but it does 
> function.
> 
> I did not create a image that can be burned to a card and run. I have 
> some scripts and instructions that will
> help someone compile and run a simplex node on a Pi. It's not a hold 
> your hand project. It's a "roll your own"
> 
> Contact me off list and I'll point you in the direction.
> 
> 73, Steve N4IRS
> 
> On 2/4/2015 12:00 PM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:19:35 -0700
> > From: Skyler F<electricity440 at gmail.com>
> > To:"app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org"  <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
> > Message-ID:
> > 	<CAJNyT0_tyXw=O_feSivHq-Zgrr=CYnjntKT8E+20BtXd=cSUWg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > This is probably something that has been asked a lot before, but with new
> > advances to the pi, more ram etc. I am curious if anyone has it working. A
> > lot of people who want to set up a node keep ask me if it works on the pi.
> > Does AllStar work on the raspberry pi for a simple node?
> >
> > 73
> > Kd0whb
> > Skyler
> 
> -- 
> "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
> 1st Law of Logic
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Wed Feb  4 21:16:52 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:16:52 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <CALLtVpUjqc_skM8BEq-AgCvkzGgqav1AFWbg5Vr+8QWyc0ciNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1423069204.32576.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>	<54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com>
	<CALLtVpUjqc_skM8BEq-AgCvkzGgqav1AFWbg5Vr+8QWyc0ciNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54D28C44.9080203@msgstor.com>

Doug,
With all due respect, The BBB is a fine board, and there are a lot of other boards available today.
Some of us want to do our own thing, We are quite capable of experimenting with different platforms.
Not everyone needs a image to load. I've been running Allstar a long time on many hardware and software versions.

We have been running the Pi on a few nodes since Christmas 24 x 7. with no failures.

As they say on TV, your mileage may vary.

73, Steve N4IRS

>Be very careful running Allstar on the Pi. It is subject to all kinds of problems including hangups. We already >went through all the testing on that platform a year ago and that is why we are using the Beaglebone Black.

>I can't understand why anyone would want to run Allstar on the Pi when you have a perfectly good and very easy to >use setup with all the bells and whistles on the BBB that just works. Is it just because you have it sitting there >and you want to use it? All of this stuff is so cheap. Buy a BBB!!!
>73 Doug
>WA3DSP

-- 
"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
1st Law of Logic



From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 00:54:11 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 18:54:11 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <54D28C44.9080203@msgstor.com>
References: <mailman.1.1423069204.32576.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>	<54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com>	<CALLtVpUjqc_skM8BEq-AgCvkzGgqav1AFWbg5Vr+8QWyc0ciNg@mail.gmail.com>
	<54D28C44.9080203@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <54D2BF33.6070504@gmail.com>

If Steve wants to tinker with his Pi, then that's his prerogative, and
his right.

In case you missed it, people, in general, do -NOT- like to be dictated to!

Let him, and others, make his/their own choice.

Or, would you rather we all clicked our heels and marched in lock-step,
heir commrade, Dougenmiester?




On 02/04/2015 03:16 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
> Doug,
> With all due respect, The BBB is a fine board, and there are a lot of
> other boards available today.
> Some of us want to do our own thing, We are quite capable of
> experimenting with different platforms.
> Not everyone needs a image to load. I've been running Allstar a long
> time on many hardware and software versions.
>
> We have been running the Pi on a few nodes since Christmas 24 x 7.
> with no failures.
>
> As they say on TV, your mileage may vary.
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
>> Be very careful running Allstar on the Pi. It is subject to all kinds
>> of problems including hangups. We already >went through all the
>> testing on that platform a year ago and that is why we are using the
>> Beaglebone Black.
>
>> I can't understand why anyone would want to run Allstar on the Pi
>> when you have a perfectly good and very easy to >use setup with all
>> the bells and whistles on the BBB that just works. Is it just because
>> you have it sitting there >and you want to use it? All of this stuff
>> is so cheap. Buy a BBB!!!
>> 73 Doug
>> WA3DSP
>



From doug at crompton.com  Thu Feb  5 03:11:30 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 22:11:30 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <54D2BF33.6070504@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1423069204.32576.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
	<54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com>
	<CALLtVpUjqc_skM8BEq-AgCvkzGgqav1AFWbg5Vr+8QWyc0ciNg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<54D28C44.9080203@msgstor.com>, <54D2BF33.6070504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W443ED6F30EE97FA46B1A1DBA3B0@phx.gbl>

Just to set this straight. I am not dictating anything. The question was asked and I gave my opinion. You do what you want. We have already investigated it and I believe made the right decision based on a lot of studies by more than one person. If the person or persons that claim to have the pi running want to release and support a package that is fine but to say "yeah it works" and give that expectation to others who don't have any idea even how to start getting it to work raises false hopes. Most people don't want to mess with software and hardware. They just want something to work.

It is no small task to put together a package and support it. Most people appreciate what we have done. That being said anyone is certainly free to do whatever they want. Experimentation is the name of the game.   

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio



 		 	   		  
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Thu Feb  5 03:39:55 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:39:55 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com>
References: <mailman.1.1423069204.32576.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
	<54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <54D2E60B.4020704@msgstor.com>

Doug,

I am "the person" that "claims" it works, as you well know from direct 
mail you sent when I posted back in December. We have been running it 24 
hours a day 7 days a week since then.

The decision we made was to give it a try, to fix what was broke if 
possible. You make your decision, we will make ours. Since both the Pi 
and the BBB will only support one URI, they are both computerizes.

I posted over a month ago that it does work. I offered anyone that asked 
a link to the tarball. Anyone who responded was sent the link. Any 
suggestions we added. I don't claim it a package, I don't claim support. 
No more no less then the overall AllStar system. Not all of us need you 
to hold our hand. Thanks to Jim we have a very nice system and we 
support each other just fine.

I will answer questions, I will lend support when asked. You may want to 
check the history here, I've been helping people for quite a few years. 
I just did not create a image. I wrote up some notes and proved it can 
be done.

Steve N4IRS



 > Just to set this straight. I am not dictating anything. The question 
 >was asked and I gave my opinion. You do what you want. We have 
 >already investigated it and I believe made the right decision based on 
 >a lot of studies by more than one person. If the person or persons 
 >that claim to have the pi running want to release and support a 
 >package that is fine but to say "yeah it works" and give that 
 >expectation to others who don't have any idea even how to start 
 >getting it to work raises false hopes. Most people don't want to mess 
 >with software and hardware. They just want something to work.

 >It is no small task to put together a package and support it. Most 
 >people appreciate what we have done. That being said anyone is 
 >certainly free to do whatever they want. Experimentation is the name 
 >of the game.



From N1XBM at amsat.org  Thu Feb  5 13:39:14 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 08:39:14 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <54D2E60B.4020704@msgstor.com>
References: <mailman.1.1423069204.32576.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
	<54D2830C.4030502@msgstor.com> <54D2E60B.4020704@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEYQiA2DnD5rQosCHutEDdUxjXU4QQphk_kH753Ch=MjEg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure why some has to get ridiculous with the German goose step
references.

I personally appreciate all of the work Doug and I'm sure others have put
into the BBB. It's cheap and you can have a basic node and even a few more
advanced features on the air in less than an hour for cheap money.

My BBB has been rock solid and Doug and others on this list have provided
support that has gone above and beyond anything I expected!

With that said if someone wants to experiment that's great and I like to do
the same things. I've been on this list for a while and I kept hearing
about the BBB and never considered it until recently. I can tell a lot of
work went into that.  There are some advanced features that have been
scripted so all you have to do is follow the prompts. An example would be
using a powered USB hub and making a image onto another USB flash drive
while your system is live.  This is great since my system is at a remote
site. So I can make a complete image remotely so if I loose a micro sd
card. I can insert a new one and restore my card again.

It would be great to see advances using the RPi since that is what ham
radio is about.

Bob / N1XBM
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From buck at thebghouse.org  Thu Feb  5 17:07:57 2015
From: buck at thebghouse.org (Birton)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 09:07:57 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] No responses?
Message-ID: <000a01d04166$55b06e80$01114b80$@thebghouse.org>

Hi,

 

Over the years I've used the information several times to help me setup /
solve asterisk things. So I see a great deal of value in this dialog.
Thanks.

 

On the other hand, I don't receive comments or suggestions to things I ask
directly. So my question is, do I need to be a paying member for others to
see or respond to my personal posting?

 

Or, maybe the questions I ask are so strange that there are no answers /
suggestion - LOL

 

Thanks,

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From n1dot1 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 17:15:55 2015
From: n1dot1 at gmail.com (Kenneth Grimard)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:15:55 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] No responses?
In-Reply-To: <000a01d04166$55b06e80$01114b80$@thebghouse.org>
References: <000a01d04166$55b06e80$01114b80$@thebghouse.org>
Message-ID: <54D3A54B.9050208@gmail.com>

no birton

you post are making it here ok.

sometimes we do not have an answer to give and for me it is best not to 
chime
in when i do not have an answer for you.

ken n1dot



On 2/5/2015 5:07 PM, Birton wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Over the years I?ve used the information several times to help me 
> setup / solve asterisk things. So I see a great deal of value in this 
> dialog. Thanks.
>
> On the other hand, I don?t receive comments or suggestions to things I 
> ask directly. So my question is, do I need to be a paying member for 
> others to see or respond to my personal posting?
>
> Or, maybe the questions I ask are so strange that there are no answers 
> / suggestion ? LOL
>
> Thanks,
>
> Birton
>
>
>
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From dshaw at ke6upi.com  Thu Feb  5 18:01:35 2015
From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 10:01:35 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux & CF
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+Z61Gq6Sec05L1+tNbOYs0KfsFufT6jeQ3F0fmg4s6fB=i=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ+Z61Gq6Sec05L1+tNbOYs0KfsFufT6jeQ3F0fmg4s6fB=i=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4Rvb+VDU8DdbK7pAMEvW+LKGcHN6ne+nDdL6_qOHo1jyFZWA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Corey, Try typing e2fsck -p -f . -p is for auto repair. -f is to force
it.

David

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe at repeater.net> wrote:

> What there ever an answer to this below?  I am trying my first one and
> stuck at the same place...
>
> ------Original email below--------
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm using Randy's method of putting Limey on a 2GB CF card, and creating
> an extra partition for storage (here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/43).
>
> Everything goes as it should, but the boot stops at: EXT2-fs: Warning
> checktime reached. Running e2fsck is recommended. Obviously the thin
> client wants to check it before it mounts it (when I created the
> partition, it did say it would be checked every 27 mounts or similar).
>
> I get a flashing cursor, and I can type in whatever I like - but it
> won't do anything!
>
> Has anyone else had this? If so, how did you overcome it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
> 29681
>
>
>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Fri Feb  6 02:52:19 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:52:19 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?
Message-ID: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>

I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow band.   As
this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for narrow band.

Looking at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92 which is the allstarlink
network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before CTCSS/DCS, what's the
value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?

I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by Steve, WA6ZFT
saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
Is there anything more official than this?  Can we add some info on this to
the docs site?

73's W9CR

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net

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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Fri Feb  6 03:10:05 2015
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 22:10:05 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?
In-Reply-To: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
References: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <7C6E3B57-0A47-4251-B088-353A5CB888D2@bdboyle.com>

with a service monitor, i set it to peak at 2.4 or so with pl (which should be aprx 400 hz deviation or so.)

linking it to wb systems you will have to play around a bit.  but these starting points worked for me (and have been using them for the last 4 years on 900.

others may (will?) have their own opinion; thiese numbers give a little cushion to start with.
--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone 5...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.



> On Feb 5, 2015, at 21:52, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow band.   As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for narrow band.
> 
> Looking at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92 which is the allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before CTCSS/DCS, what's the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?
> 
> I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by Steve, WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
> Is there anything more official than this?  Can we add some info on this to the docs site?
> 
> 73's W9CR
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> 727-214-2508 - Fax
> http://bryanfields.net
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From bbrown at byrg.net  Fri Feb  6 03:33:38 2015
From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?UTF-8?B?Qm9iIEJyb3duIC0gV8OYTlFY?=)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 21:33:38 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?
In-Reply-To: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
References: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CA+WM89b0ay3F-Ruz2QDayrGx+njzF0kB0XrMQGd1VaLAa+6Mag@mail.gmail.com>

 I usually set my 900 stuff up this way. which is standard LMR settings.

 ?1.5kHz  Voice Deviation
?0.35kHz CTCSS Deviation

 ?1.85kHz Total Combined Deviation ( Voice + CTCSS)

Some systems are set for ?2.4kHz combined, but no more than that.

YMMV



--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

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   http://byrg.net

   http://sm0kenet.net

   http://kcdstar.byrg.net

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?




--

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

>  I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow
> band.   As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for narrow
> band.
>
> Looking at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92 which is the
> allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before
> CTCSS/DCS, what's the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?
>
> I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by Steve,
> WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
> Is there anything more official than this?  Can we add some info on this
> to the docs site?
>
> 73's W9CR
>
> --
> Bryan Fields
> 727-409-1194 - Voice727-214-2508 - Faxhttp://bryanfields.net
>
>
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From david at k0pwo.com  Fri Feb  6 03:40:24 2015
From: david at k0pwo.com (David Dean K0PWO)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 20:40:24 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Issue with Repeater Keying Up on its own
Message-ID: <581AF0FD-D3D6-4170-9001-31415FD0E4E8@k0pwo.com>

Hello to everyone,

I have a problem with my repeater and hub. When my repeater node is standing alone and not connected to any other nodes it works perfectly. However, when I connect my repeater node to my hub, the repeater then will then just randomly transmit every couple of minutes (it just keys up for a second and then drops the carrier). When I disconnect from the hub the repeater then works correctly. Both the repeater node and hub were downloaded from the allstar site and have not been modified (especially the hub node) at all.

Any thoughts as to where I should look to correct this issue?

Thanks for your help,

David

David Dean, K0PWO
Arapahoe County Colorado

(720) 350-203 cell

From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Fri Feb  6 03:40:22 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 19:40:22 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?
In-Reply-To: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
References: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <70C32A44-1CE5-4264-8C4E-73D9B4BB019C@mac.com>

1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the RX and TX sides. Makes sense to add that to the docs site and I?ll take care of that. 
 
--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow band.   As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for narrow band.
> 
> Looking at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92 <http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92> which is the allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before CTCSS/DCS, what's the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?
> 
> I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by Steve, WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
> Is there anything more official than this?  Can we add some info on this to the docs site?
> 
> 73's W9CR
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> 727-214-2508 - Fax
> http://bryanfields.net <http://bryanfields.net/>_______________________________________________
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Fri Feb  6 03:46:08 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:46:08 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?
In-Reply-To: <WM!6e69014bb0a1d0af5e33b9ca04d367aea4ed91f36b8441d85dd771357cc687f759893cf0eadff19642615bb2473be1f5!@asav-1.01.com>
References: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
	<70C32A44-1CE5-4264-8C4E-73D9B4BB019C@mac.com>
	<WM!6e69014bb0a1d0af5e33b9ca04d367aea4ed91f36b8441d85dd771357cc687f759893cf0eadff19642615bb2473be1f5!@asav-1.01.com>
Message-ID: <54D43900.5020500@bryanfields.net>

Thanks, how much PL/DCS deviation do you use on top of this?  This is my first
900 mhz repeater :)


On 2/5/15, 10:40 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> 1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the RX and TX sides.
> Makes sense to add that to the docs site and I?ll take care of that. 
>  
> --
> Tim
> :wq
>
>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net
>> <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow band.  
>> As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for narrow band.
>>
>> Looking at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92 which is the
>> allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before
>> CTCSS/DCS, what's the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?
>>
>> I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by Steve,
>> WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
>> Is there anything more official than this?  Can we add some info on this to
>> the docs site?
>>
>> 73's W9CR
>> -- 
>> Bryan Fields
>>
>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> 727-214-2508 - Fax
>> http://bryanfields.net
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
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>


-- 
Bryan Fields

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727-214-2508 - Fax
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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Fri Feb  6 04:26:34 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 20:26:34 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?
In-Reply-To: <54D43900.5020500@bryanfields.net>
References: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
	<70C32A44-1CE5-4264-8C4E-73D9B4BB019C@mac.com>
	<WM!6e69014bb0a1d0af5e33b9ca04d367aea4ed91f36b8441d85dd771357cc687f759893cf0eadff19642615bb2473be1f5!@asav-1.01.com>
	<54D43900.5020500@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <8B29817A-3EFC-4DF6-999A-7D777F143BAD@mac.com>

The PL setting should be half of what it is on wide band systems. So 3Hz or so should be about right.  
--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 5, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, how much PL/DCS deviation do you use on top of this?  This is my first 900 mhz repeater :)
> 
> 
> On 2/5/15, 10:40 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>> 1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the RX and TX sides. Makes sense to add that to the docs site and I?ll take care of that. 
>>  
>> --
>> Tim
>> :wq
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow band.   As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for narrow band.
>>> 
>>> Looking at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92 <http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92> which is the allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before CTCSS/DCS, what's the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?
>>> 
>>> I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by Steve, WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
>>> Is there anything more official than this?  Can we add some info on this to the docs site?
>>> 
>>> 73's W9CR
>>> -- 
>>> Bryan Fields
>>> 
>>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>>> 727-214-2508 - Fax
>>> http://bryanfields.net <http://bryanfields.net/>_______________________________________________
>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
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>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> 727-214-2508 - Fax
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From n5zua at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  6 04:29:18 2015
From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:29:18 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?
In-Reply-To: <8B29817A-3EFC-4DF6-999A-7D777F143BAD@mac.com>
References: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>	<70C32A44-1CE5-4264-8C4E-73D9B4BB019C@mac.com>	<WM!6e69014bb0a1d0af5e33b9ca04d367aea4ed91f36b8441d85dd771357cc687f759893cf0eadff19642615bb2473be1f5!@asav-1.01.com>	<54D43900.5020500@bryanfields.net>
	<8B29817A-3EFC-4DF6-999A-7D777F143BAD@mac.com>
Message-ID: <54D4431E.20005@earthlink.net>

Maybe you meant 300 hertz?

N5ZUA

On 2/5/2015 10:26 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> The PL setting should be half of what it is on wide band systems. So 
> 3Hz or so should be about right.
> --
> Tim
> :wq
>
>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net 
>> <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, how much PL/DCS deviation do you use on top of this?  This is 
>> my first 900 mhz repeater :)
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/15, 10:40 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>>> 1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the RX and TX 
>>> sides. Makes sense to add that to the docs site and I?ll take care 
>>> of that.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim
>>> :wq
>>>
>>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net 
>>>> <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow 
>>>> band.   As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for 
>>>> narrow band.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92 which is the 
>>>> allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before 
>>>> CTCSS/DCS, what's the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM 
>>>> system?
>>>>
>>>> I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by 
>>>> Steve, WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
>>>> Is there anything more official than this? Can we add some info on 
>>>> this to the docs site?
>>>>
>>>> 73's W9CR
>>>> -- 
>>>> Bryan Fields
>>>>
>>>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>>>> 727-214-2508 - Fax
>>>> http://bryanfields.net
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Bryan Fields
>>
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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Fri Feb  6 04:30:59 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 20:30:59 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?
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References: <54D42C63.3080809@bryanfields.net>
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Yes. Thank you for the correction. 
--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 5, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Steve Agee <n5zua at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Maybe you meant 300 hertz?
> 
> N5ZUA
> 
> On 2/5/2015 10:26 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>> The PL setting should be half of what it is on wide band systems. So 3Hz or so should be about right.  
>> --
>> Tim
>> :wq
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, how much PL/DCS deviation do you use on top of this?  This is my first 900 mhz repeater :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/5/15, 10:40 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>>>> 1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the RX and TX sides. Makes sense to add that to the docs site and I?ll take care of that. 
>>>>  
>>>> --
>>>> Tim
>>>> :wq
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow band.   As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for narrow band.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Looking at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92 <http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92> which is the allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before CTCSS/DCS, what's the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by Steve, WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
>>>>> Is there anything more official than this?  Can we add some info on this to the docs site?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73's W9CR
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Bryan Fields
>>>>> 
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From george at dyb.com  Fri Feb  6 07:42:24 2015
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 01:42:24 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux & CF
In-Reply-To: <CAH4Rvb+VDU8DdbK7pAMEvW+LKGcHN6ne+nDdL6_qOHo1jyFZWA@mail.gmail.com>
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Just thinking out loud here, but are you mounting the extra partition at boot time? I?d wait till Limey is booted and running, then mount the other partition. 

Also what partition is it and what is in syslinux.cfg

But I?m in bad need of sleep, so YMMV

GeorgeC

George J Csahanin
W2DB
Cedar Park, TX
512-401-2630 home
401-338-0568 cel

From: David KE6UPI 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:01 PM
To: Corey Dean 
Cc: Allstar app_rpt-users Group 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux & CF

Hey Corey, Try typing e2fsck -p -f . -p is for auto repair. -f is to force it. 


David

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe at repeater.net> wrote:

  What there ever an answer to this below?  I am trying my first one and stuck at the same place...


  ------Original email below--------

Hi Guys,

I'm using Randy's method of putting Limey on a 2GB CF card, and creating 
an extra partition for storage (here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/43).

Everything goes as it should, but the boot stops at: EXT2-fs: Warning 
checktime reached. Running e2fsck is recommended. Obviously the thin 
client wants to check it before it mounts it (when I created the 
partition, it did say it would be checked every 27 mounts or similar).

I get a flashing cursor, and I can type in whatever I like - but it 
won't do anything!

Has anyone else had this? If so, how did you overcome it?

Cheers,

James
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From wbs099 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  6 15:04:25 2015
From: wbs099 at yahoo.com (Bill South)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:04:25 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
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It's one thing to do a proof-of-concept and roll out some files and then say "have a nice day but no support is provided".  All too often I see that in the technology and experimentation world, which may be fine for some, but less than ideal for other, less technical folks.  Doug has gone way beyond that point by not only doing the proof-of-concept but also providing a number of scripts to make the install smooth on the BBB (my BBB install was SO much easier than my first ACID install).  Beyond that Doug has set up a very detailed web site to answer just about any question one might have about setting up Allstar on a BBB.  But above even that effort Doug has explained many of the various configuration facets of Allstar that previously had been something of a mystery.  He not only explained some things in his BBB web page that were simply not all the clear before related to general Allstar setup, but when asked (and I for one did ask several questions of
 him) he responded to those questions with clear, concise responses.  Aside from the BBB-specific documentation itself, his web site is an excellent learning experience related to Allstar configuration overall.

Experimentation is certainly a cornerstone of ham radio and all those who have put forth these various solutions on different platforms are to be commended for the efforts, as some of us don't have the expertise or time to do that ourselves but still wish to be involved in this new technology.  It just seems to me that Doug went the extra mile to put together the BBB setup (after more than a little testing on the RPI platform first) then provide significant and detailed documentation to help all of us.  Thanks Doug for your extra efforts in this regard.


--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/5/15, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
 To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
 Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 8:39 AM
 
 I'm not
 sure why some has to get ridiculous with the German goose
 step references.
 I personally appreciate all of the work Doug
 and I'm sure others have put into the BBB. It's
 cheap and you can have a basic node and even a few more
 advanced features on the air in less than an hour for cheap
 money.
 My BBB has been rock solid and Doug and others
 on this list have provided support that has gone above and
 beyond anything I expected!
 With that said if someone wants to experiment
 that's great and I like to do the same things. I've
 been on this list for a while and I kept hearing about the
 BBB and never considered it until recently. I can tell a lot
 of work went into that.? There are some advanced features
 that have been scripted so all you have to do is follow the
 prompts. An example would be using a powered USB hub and
 making a image onto another USB flash drive while your
 system is live.? This is great since my system is at a
 remote site. So I can make a complete image remotely so if I
 loose a micro sd card. I can insert a new one and restore my
 card again.
 It would be great to see advances using the RPi
 since that is what ham radio is about. 
 Bob / N1XBM
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Feb  6 15:43:20 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 10:43:20 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3221.1423235074.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.3221.1423235074.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54D4E118.4070408@msgstor.com>

There seems to be a case of false equivalency developing here.
A large number of us do not want or need a image with a few scripts to 
hold our hand
to use AllStar. We want the source code, we want the configuration files 
and that's it.

If all AllStar Asterisk was is a image I download and install, I would 
not be using it.
And for that matter, what is the SVN but a roll out of some files and 
have a nice day.

It seems that if you are not interested in running the images provided 
you are somehow disrespecting
the people that create and support them. At least for me, nothing could 
be further from the truth.
I have not put down Acid, Limey, Pickle or BBB. They all have their 
place. Just not what I want or need to do.
I roll my own, that's why I got involved with helping Jim. I contribute 
support, patches and money to this project.

On the other hand, People that prefer a particular image seem to think 
if you don't want to run the same image you do
you are doing something wrong. It's a little more then just rolling out 
a few files. It about setting up a environment to compile and install 
the version of Asterisk and app_rpt we want to run.

I don't care if someone has done extensive testing of the RPI and deemed 
it inferior. Someone might consider the fact that there are a lot of 
people that want to try it and maybe after they cut their teeth on a RPI 
they move on to something better. And horror of horrors, it's not 
someones image. The same concepts used in the collection of files I made 
available will help someone install AllStar Asterisk on just about any 
Debian platform.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 2/6/2015 10:04 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:04:25 -0800
> From: Bill South <wbs099 at yahoo.com>
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
> Message-ID:
> 	<1423235065.26597.YahooMailBasic at web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> It's one thing to do a proof-of-concept and roll out some files and then say "have a nice day but no support is provided".  All too often I see that in the technology and experimentation world, which may be fine for some, but less than ideal for other, less technical folks.  Doug has gone way beyond that point by not only doing the proof-of-concept but also providing a number of scripts to make the install smooth on the BBB (my BBB install was SO much easier than my first ACID install).  Beyond that Doug has set up a very detailed web site to answer just about any question one might have about setting up Allstar on a BBB.  But above even that effort Doug has explained many of the various configuration facets of Allstar that previously had been something of a mystery.  He not only explained some things in his BBB web page that were simply not all the clear before related to general Allstar setup, but when asked (and I for one did ask several questions of
>   him) he responded to those questions with clear, concise responses.  Aside from the BBB-specific documentation itself, his web site is an excellent learning experience related to Allstar configuration overall.
>
> Experimentation is certainly a cornerstone of ham radio and all those who have put forth these various solutions on different platforms are to be commended for the efforts, as some of us don't have the expertise or time to do that ourselves but still wish to be involved in this new technology.  It just seems to me that Doug went the extra mile to put together the BBB setup (after more than a little testing on the RPI platform first) then provide significant and detailed documentation to help all of us.  Thanks Doug for your extra efforts in this regard.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 2/5/15, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>   Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
>   To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>   Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 8:39 AM
>   
>   I'm not
>   sure why some has to get ridiculous with the German goose
>   step references.
>   I personally appreciate all of the work Doug
>   and I'm sure others have put into the BBB. It's
>   cheap and you can have a basic node and even a few more
>   advanced features on the air in less than an hour for cheap
>   money.
>   My BBB has been rock solid and Doug and others
>   on this list have provided support that has gone above and
>   beyond anything I expected!
>   With that said if someone wants to experiment
>   that's great and I like to do the same things. I've
>   been on this list for a while and I kept hearing about the
>   BBB and never considered it until recently. I can tell a lot
>   of work went into that.? There are some advanced features
>   that have been scripted so all you have to do is follow the
>   prompts. An example would be using a powered USB hub and
>   making a image onto another USB flash drive while your
>   system is live.? This is great since my system is at a
>   remote site. So I can make a complete image remotely so if I
>   loose a micro sd card. I can insert a new one and restore my
>   card again.
>   It would be great to see advances using the RPi
>   since that is what ham radio is about.
>   Bob / N1XBM
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From mike.zingman at gmail.com  Fri Feb  6 16:04:29 2015
From: mike.zingman at gmail.com (Mike Zingman)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:04:29 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <54D4E118.4070408@msgstor.com>
References: <mailman.3221.1423235074.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
	<54D4E118.4070408@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <CAHS3md-J9WdEKyc+T0BfDx1JrpoVAvy6daByGZOMNCB_psk9-g@mail.gmail.com>

Just to stick my 2 cents in.  This hobby is for all types.  Appliance
operators and experimenters.  Both have their places.  I prefer to
experiment and learn.  I can best accomplish that by doing it myself.
Others have different priorities and I respect that, but do not choose to
follow that path.
I have taken my knowledge and used it recently to port and set up a new
node with the odroid c1 (BTW it kicks the BBBs butt!).  I did not have to
wait for someone else to make an image.  I struggled with things and I am
now smarter than I was yesterday.  Yea, good for me.  It is my choice to
spend my time this way, you can spend your as you see fit.
Today I get my RPI P2.  Want to guess what this weekends project may be?

Always having fun
Mike N4IRR


On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> There seems to be a case of false equivalency developing here.
> A large number of us do not want or need a image with a few scripts to
> hold our hand
> to use AllStar. We want the source code, we want the configuration files
> and that's it.
>
> If all AllStar Asterisk was is a image I download and install, I would not
> be using it.
> And for that matter, what is the SVN but a roll out of some files and have
> a nice day.
>
> It seems that if you are not interested in running the images provided you
> are somehow disrespecting
> the people that create and support them. At least for me, nothing could be
> further from the truth.
> I have not put down Acid, Limey, Pickle or BBB. They all have their place.
> Just not what I want or need to do.
> I roll my own, that's why I got involved with helping Jim. I contribute
> support, patches and money to this project.
>
> On the other hand, People that prefer a particular image seem to think if
> you don't want to run the same image you do
> you are doing something wrong. It's a little more then just rolling out a
> few files. It about setting up a environment to compile and install the
> version of Asterisk and app_rpt we want to run.
>
> I don't care if someone has done extensive testing of the RPI and deemed
> it inferior. Someone might consider the fact that there are a lot of people
> that want to try it and maybe after they cut their teeth on a RPI they move
> on to something better. And horror of horrors, it's not someones image. The
> same concepts used in the collection of files I made available will help
> someone install AllStar Asterisk on just about any Debian platform.
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
> On 2/6/2015 10:04 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:04:25 -0800
>> From: Bill South <wbs099 at yahoo.com>
>> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
>> Message-ID:
>>         <1423235065.26597.YahooMailBasic at web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> It's one thing to do a proof-of-concept and roll out some files and then
>> say "have a nice day but no support is provided".  All too often I see that
>> in the technology and experimentation world, which may be fine for some,
>> but less than ideal for other, less technical folks.  Doug has gone way
>> beyond that point by not only doing the proof-of-concept but also providing
>> a number of scripts to make the install smooth on the BBB (my BBB install
>> was SO much easier than my first ACID install).  Beyond that Doug has set
>> up a very detailed web site to answer just about any question one might
>> have about setting up Allstar on a BBB.  But above even that effort Doug
>> has explained many of the various configuration facets of Allstar that
>> previously had been something of a mystery.  He not only explained some
>> things in his BBB web page that were simply not all the clear before
>> related to general Allstar setup, but when asked (and I for one did ask
>> several questions of
>>   him) he responded to those questions with clear, concise responses.
>> Aside from the BBB-specific documentation itself, his web site is an
>> excellent learning experience related to Allstar configuration overall.
>>
>> Experimentation is certainly a cornerstone of ham radio and all those who
>> have put forth these various solutions on different platforms are to be
>> commended for the efforts, as some of us don't have the expertise or time
>> to do that ourselves but still wish to be involved in this new technology.
>> It just seems to me that Doug went the extra mile to put together the BBB
>> setup (after more than a little testing on the RPI platform first) then
>> provide significant and detailed documentation to help all of us.  Thanks
>> Doug for your extra efforts in this regard.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Thu, 2/5/15, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>>   Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
>>   To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>   Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 8:39 AM
>>     I'm not
>>   sure why some has to get ridiculous with the German goose
>>   step references.
>>   I personally appreciate all of the work Doug
>>   and I'm sure others have put into the BBB. It's
>>   cheap and you can have a basic node and even a few more
>>   advanced features on the air in less than an hour for cheap
>>   money.
>>   My BBB has been rock solid and Doug and others
>>   on this list have provided support that has gone above and
>>   beyond anything I expected!
>>   With that said if someone wants to experiment
>>   that's great and I like to do the same things. I've
>>   been on this list for a while and I kept hearing about the
>>   BBB and never considered it until recently. I can tell a lot
>>   of work went into that.? There are some advanced features
>>   that have been scripted so all you have to do is follow the
>>   prompts. An example would be using a powered USB hub and
>>   making a image onto another USB flash drive while your
>>   system is live.? This is great since my system is at a
>>   remote site. So I can make a complete image remotely so if I
>>   loose a micro sd card. I can insert a new one and restore my
>>   card again.
>>   It would be great to see advances using the RPi
>>   since that is what ham radio is about.
>>   Bob / N1XBM
>>   -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
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From n5zua at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  6 16:32:19 2015
From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 10:32:19 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI<>TKR-750 cable
In-Reply-To: <505673D3.2050703@va3uv.com>
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Message-ID: <54D4EC93.2080501@earthlink.net>

Hello,

Do you know if pin 10 on a TKR-850 must be programmed to output 
discriminator audio for a URI, or is it "hard wired" that way? I'm 
attempting to remotely assist someone a thousand miles away that has 
never done this before. While I've dealt with about 20 Motorola to URI 
interfaces, I've never messed with a TKR-850 before.

Thanks,
N5ZUA



From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Fri Feb  6 16:38:01 2015
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:38:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status -- a developer's view
In-Reply-To: <CAHS3md-J9WdEKyc+T0BfDx1JrpoVAvy6daByGZOMNCB_psk9-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502061109030.3201-100000@goliath.inttek.net>



Hi Everyone,

It never fails to amaze me how these discussions get heated!

As one of the developers working on the BBB and other releases, I'll be
the first to say that we're ALWAYS looking forward to the next latest and
greatest platform to use! BUT, IT HAS GOT TO WORK AS WELL AS A PC! Nasty,
clicky, popping audio is NOT acceptable; not to me at least. So, I
wouldn't hint that a -marginal- platform is acceptable. As I imply, I'm
pretty fanatical about audio quality and reliability; as comparable to the
typical PC platform.

Mailing lists can be dangerous places. Prospective users may see a quick 
blurb about a possible platform, smile, and dive in. Lets all try to be 
good stewards about what AllStar platforms are realistically working.

So far, I've evaluated many inexpensive (less than $50) ARM-based boards.  
Of all I've used so far, only the BBB (with SimpleUSB) provides excellent
performance.  Yes, the Odroid-C1 is pretty neat and has a very fast
CPU--I've got 3 of them sitting right in front of me. I've also already
got a customized Arch-based distro for them. But, NOPE, they are not yet
ready for the prime-time--not with the latest Arch Linux, at least! USB
with URI's is pretty broken at this point!!! But, hopefully that will
change.

Anyhow, where I'm going with this is that AllStar certainly needs
enthusiastic developers! But, we developers must remember that we have a
responsibility to make sure less experienced users don't fall into a
disappointing situation where they waste a few weeks of time only to end 
up with an unacceptable result.


Just my $0.02.

73, David KB4FXC



On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, Mike Zingman wrote:

> Just to stick my 2 cents in.  This hobby is for all types.  Appliance
> operators and experimenters.  Both have their places.  I prefer to
> experiment and learn.  I can best accomplish that by doing it myself.
> Others have different priorities and I respect that, but do not choose to
> follow that path.
> I have taken my knowledge and used it recently to port and set up a new
> node with the odroid c1 (BTW it kicks the BBBs butt!).  I did not have to
> wait for someone else to make an image.  I struggled with things and I am
> now smarter than I was yesterday.  Yea, good for me.  It is my choice to
> spend my time this way, you can spend your as you see fit.
> Today I get my RPI P2.  Want to guess what this weekends project may be?
> 
> Always having fun
> Mike N4IRR
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
> 
> > There seems to be a case of false equivalency developing here.
> > A large number of us do not want or need a image with a few scripts to
> > hold our hand
> > to use AllStar. We want the source code, we want the configuration files
> > and that's it.
> >
> > If all AllStar Asterisk was is a image I download and install, I would not
> > be using it.
> > And for that matter, what is the SVN but a roll out of some files and have
> > a nice day.
> >
> > It seems that if you are not interested in running the images provided you
> > are somehow disrespecting
> > the people that create and support them. At least for me, nothing could be
> > further from the truth.
> > I have not put down Acid, Limey, Pickle or BBB. They all have their place.
> > Just not what I want or need to do.
> > I roll my own, that's why I got involved with helping Jim. I contribute
> > support, patches and money to this project.
> >
> > On the other hand, People that prefer a particular image seem to think if
> > you don't want to run the same image you do
> > you are doing something wrong. It's a little more then just rolling out a
> > few files. It about setting up a environment to compile and install the
> > version of Asterisk and app_rpt we want to run.
> >
> > I don't care if someone has done extensive testing of the RPI and deemed
> > it inferior. Someone might consider the fact that there are a lot of people
> > that want to try it and maybe after they cut their teeth on a RPI they move
> > on to something better. And horror of horrors, it's not someones image. The
> > same concepts used in the collection of files I made available will help
> > someone install AllStar Asterisk on just about any Debian platform.
> >
> > 73, Steve N4IRS
> >
> > On 2/6/2015 10:04 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> >
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:04:25 -0800
> >> From: Bill South <wbs099 at yahoo.com>
> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
> >> Message-ID:
> >>         <1423235065.26597.YahooMailBasic at web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >>
> >> It's one thing to do a proof-of-concept and roll out some files and then
> >> say "have a nice day but no support is provided".  All too often I see that
> >> in the technology and experimentation world, which may be fine for some,
> >> but less than ideal for other, less technical folks.  Doug has gone way
> >> beyond that point by not only doing the proof-of-concept but also providing
> >> a number of scripts to make the install smooth on the BBB (my BBB install
> >> was SO much easier than my first ACID install).  Beyond that Doug has set
> >> up a very detailed web site to answer just about any question one might
> >> have about setting up Allstar on a BBB.  But above even that effort Doug
> >> has explained many of the various configuration facets of Allstar that
> >> previously had been something of a mystery.  He not only explained some
> >> things in his BBB web page that were simply not all the clear before
> >> related to general Allstar setup, but when asked (and I for one did ask
> >> several questions of
> >>   him) he responded to those questions with clear, concise responses.
> >> Aside from the BBB-specific documentation itself, his web site is an
> >> excellent learning experience related to Allstar configuration overall.
> >>
> >> Experimentation is certainly a cornerstone of ham radio and all those who
> >> have put forth these various solutions on different platforms are to be
> >> commended for the efforts, as some of us don't have the expertise or time
> >> to do that ourselves but still wish to be involved in this new technology.
> >> It just seems to me that Doug went the extra mile to put together the BBB
> >> setup (after more than a little testing on the RPI platform first) then
> >> provide significant and detailed documentation to help all of us.  Thanks
> >> Doug for your extra efforts in this regard.
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------
> >> On Thu, 2/5/15, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>   Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
> >>   To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >>   Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 8:39 AM
> >>     I'm not
> >>   sure why some has to get ridiculous with the German goose
> >>   step references.
> >>   I personally appreciate all of the work Doug
> >>   and I'm sure others have put into the BBB. It's
> >>   cheap and you can have a basic node and even a few more
> >>   advanced features on the air in less than an hour for cheap
> >>   money.
> >>   My BBB has been rock solid and Doug and others
> >>   on this list have provided support that has gone above and
> >>   beyond anything I expected!
> >>   With that said if someone wants to experiment
> >>   that's great and I like to do the same things. I've
> >>   been on this list for a while and I kept hearing about the
> >>   BBB and never considered it until recently. I can tell a lot
> >>   of work went into that.? There are some advanced features
> >>   that have been scripted so all you have to do is follow the
> >>   prompts. An example would be using a powered USB hub and
> >>   making a image onto another USB flash drive while your
> >>   system is live.? This is great since my system is at a
> >>   remote site. So I can make a complete image remotely so if I
> >>   loose a micro sd card. I can insert a new one and restore my
> >>   card again.
> >>   It would be great to see advances using the RPi
> >>   since that is what ham radio is about.
> >>   Bob / N1XBM
> >>   -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Feb  6 16:54:38 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 11:54:38 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3221.1423235074.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.3221.1423235074.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54D4F1CE.8050300@msgstor.com>


snip:
 >Anyhow, where I'm going with this is that AllStar certainly needs
 >enthusiastic developers! But, we developers must remember that we have
 >a responsibility to make sure less experienced users don't fall into a
 >disappointing situation where they waste a few weeks of time only to 
 >end up with an unacceptable result.

David,
Are you suggesting that Jim close the SVN since a inexperienced 
prospective user try to build asterisk himself and fail? Or someone 
tries to install Acid on a i386? The possibilities are endless.

Your experience with a board may not be the same as mine. Over and over, 
it seems the BBB people come across as thinking they are the only people 
qualified to put out information or code to support AllStar.

I don't think that's the case.

73, Steve N4IRS

-- 
"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
1st Law of Logic




From bmcintosh at paceprofessional.co.uk  Fri Feb  6 17:28:23 2015
From: bmcintosh at paceprofessional.co.uk (B. McIntosh [Pace])
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 17:28:23 -0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 1. Re: Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1423242015.9673.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.1.1423242015.9673.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <3F49324398BA46E188262BA766AFCDF8@HPBernie>



Firstly, I've been using a Raspberry PI for some time with Asterisk over
MESH networking. It has been very succesful unless more than two calls are
in place at one time. But for evaulation purposes it was fine. 

I've just upgraded to the PI 2 and find that although the machine is
generally a lot faster the VOIP has quality has declined. Sound breaks up at
times, particularly at the beginning of a call shortly after reboot. Things
seem to improve with time which I guess may be down to some kind of cacheing
of some modules and wav files. Maybe the microSD card isn't operating
quickly enough ?  I'll be pursuing this further as it seems unlikely that
the machine isn't suitable for simple Asterisk use. One thing is sure, I
might counsel caution about assuming the new PI will run with Allstar and
Asterisk in a production environment just because its billed as 6 times
faster.

I'm ever baffled at the attitudes displayed by some on these sites. Doug et
al, - you have an amazing website and have done a phenomenal amount of work
for the good of others. I'm putting together a repeater to link into our
MESH network  and have just taken delivery of the DMK URI. The BBB has just
arrived too.  I've been in IT for thirty years professionally and I am very
experienced in C software development. Maybe that's exactly why I really
don't want to play around learning all the daft little things that others
have learned before me to compile and make the software work on a new
platform. Someone else has  sufferd the annoyances on my behalf. I'll go and
find some similar annoyances to entertain me elsewhere.  The BBB image looks
absolutely great and I expect to get it up and running easily. Thanks Doug, 

Bernie
GM4WZG


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To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status -- a developer's view
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Hi Everyone,

It never fails to amaze me how these discussions get heated!

As one of the developers working on the BBB and other releases, I'll be the
first to say that we're ALWAYS looking forward to the next latest and
greatest platform to use! BUT, IT HAS GOT TO WORK AS WELL AS A PC! Nasty,
clicky, popping audio is NOT acceptable; not to me at least. So, I wouldn't
hint that a -marginal- platform is acceptable. As I imply, I'm pretty
fanatical about audio quality and reliability; as comparable to the typical
PC platform.

Mailing lists can be dangerous places. Prospective users may see a quick
blurb about a possible platform, smile, and dive in. Lets all try to be good
stewards about what AllStar platforms are realistically working.

So far, I've evaluated many inexpensive (less than $50) ARM-based boards.  
Of all I've used so far, only the BBB (with SimpleUSB) provides excellent
performance.  Yes, the Odroid-C1 is pretty neat and has a very fast
CPU--I've got 3 of them sitting right in front of me. I've also already got
a customized Arch-based distro for them. But, NOPE, they are not yet ready
for the prime-time--not with the latest Arch Linux, at least! USB with URI's
is pretty broken at this point!!! But, hopefully that will change.

Anyhow, where I'm going with this is that AllStar certainly needs
enthusiastic developers! But, we developers must remember that we have a
responsibility to make sure less experienced users don't fall into a
disappointing situation where they waste a few weeks of time only to end up
with an unacceptable result.


Just my $0.02.

73, David KB4FXC



On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, Mike Zingman wrote:

> Just to stick my 2 cents in.  This hobby is for all types.  Appliance
> operators and experimenters.  Both have their places.  I prefer to
> experiment and learn.  I can best accomplish that by doing it myself.
> Others have different priorities and I respect that, but do not choose to
> follow that path.
> I have taken my knowledge and used it recently to port and set up a new
> node with the odroid c1 (BTW it kicks the BBBs butt!).  I did not have to
> wait for someone else to make an image.  I struggled with things and I am
> now smarter than I was yesterday.  Yea, good for me.  It is my choice to
> spend my time this way, you can spend your as you see fit.
> Today I get my RPI P2.  Want to guess what this weekends project may be?
> 
> Always having fun
> Mike N4IRR
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
wrote:
> 
> > There seems to be a case of false equivalency developing here.
> > A large number of us do not want or need a image with a few scripts to
> > hold our hand
> > to use AllStar. We want the source code, we want the configuration files
> > and that's it.
> >
> > If all AllStar Asterisk was is a image I download and install, I would
not
> > be using it.
> > And for that matter, what is the SVN but a roll out of some files and
have
> > a nice day.
> >
> > It seems that if you are not interested in running the images provided
you
> > are somehow disrespecting
> > the people that create and support them. At least for me, nothing could
be
> > further from the truth.
> > I have not put down Acid, Limey, Pickle or BBB. They all have their
place.
> > Just not what I want or need to do.
> > I roll my own, that's why I got involved with helping Jim. I contribute
> > support, patches and money to this project.
> >
> > On the other hand, People that prefer a particular image seem to think
if
> > you don't want to run the same image you do
> > you are doing something wrong. It's a little more then just rolling out
a
> > few files. It about setting up a environment to compile and install the
> > version of Asterisk and app_rpt we want to run.
> >
> > I don't care if someone has done extensive testing of the RPI and deemed
> > it inferior. Someone might consider the fact that there are a lot of
people
> > that want to try it and maybe after they cut their teeth on a RPI they
move
> > on to something better. And horror of horrors, it's not someones image.
The
> > same concepts used in the collection of files I made available will help
> > someone install AllStar Asterisk on just about any Debian platform.
> >
> > 73, Steve N4IRS
> >
> > On 2/6/2015 10:04 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> >
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:04:25 -0800
> >> From: Bill South <wbs099 at yahoo.com>
> >> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
> >> Message-ID:
> >>         <1423235065.26597.YahooMailBasic at web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >>
> >> It's one thing to do a proof-of-concept and roll out some files and
then
> >> say "have a nice day but no support is provided".  All too often I see
that
> >> in the technology and experimentation world, which may be fine for
some,
> >> but less than ideal for other, less technical folks.  Doug has gone way
> >> beyond that point by not only doing the proof-of-concept but also
providing
> >> a number of scripts to make the install smooth on the BBB (my BBB
install
> >> was SO much easier than my first ACID install).  Beyond that Doug has
set
> >> up a very detailed web site to answer just about any question one might
> >> have about setting up Allstar on a BBB.  But above even that effort
Doug
> >> has explained many of the various configuration facets of Allstar that
> >> previously had been something of a mystery.  He not only explained some
> >> things in his BBB web page that were simply not all the clear before
> >> related to general Allstar setup, but when asked (and I for one did ask
> >> several questions of
> >>   him) he responded to those questions with clear, concise responses.
> >> Aside from the BBB-specific documentation itself, his web site is an
> >> excellent learning experience related to Allstar configuration overall.
> >>
> >> Experimentation is certainly a cornerstone of ham radio and all those
who
> >> have put forth these various solutions on different platforms are to be
> >> commended for the efforts, as some of us don't have the expertise or
time
> >> to do that ourselves but still wish to be involved in this new
technology.
> >> It just seems to me that Doug went the extra mile to put together the
BBB
> >> setup (after more than a little testing on the RPI platform first) then
> >> provide significant and detailed documentation to help all of us.
Thanks
> >> Doug for your extra efforts in this regard.
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------
> >> On Thu, 2/5/15, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>   Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
> >>   To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> >>   Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 8:39 AM
> >>     I'm not
> >>   sure why some has to get ridiculous with the German goose
> >>   step references.
> >>   I personally appreciate all of the work Doug
> >>   and I'm sure others have put into the BBB. It's
> >>   cheap and you can have a basic node and even a few more
> >>   advanced features on the air in less than an hour for cheap
> >>   money.
> >>   My BBB has been rock solid and Doug and others
> >>   on this list have provided support that has gone above and
> >>   beyond anything I expected!
> >>   With that said if someone wants to experiment
> >>   that's great and I like to do the same things. I've
> >>   been on this list for a while and I kept hearing about the
> >>   BBB and never considered it until recently. I can tell a lot
> >>   of work went into that.? There are some advanced features
> >>   that have been scripted so all you have to do is follow the
> >>   prompts. An example would be using a powered USB hub and
> >>   making a image onto another USB flash drive while your
> >>   system is live.? This is great since my system is at a
> >>   remote site. So I can make a complete image remotely so if I
> >>   loose a micro sd card. I can insert a new one and restore my
> >>   card again.
> >>   It would be great to see advances using the RPi
> >>   since that is what ham radio is about.
> >>   Bob / N1XBM
> >>   -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 11:54:38 -0500
From: Steve  Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
Message-ID: <54D4F1CE.8050300 at msgstor.com>
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snip:
 >Anyhow, where I'm going with this is that AllStar certainly needs
 >enthusiastic developers! But, we developers must remember that we have
 >a responsibility to make sure less experienced users don't fall into a
 >disappointing situation where they waste a few weeks of time only to 
 >end up with an unacceptable result.

David,
Are you suggesting that Jim close the SVN since a inexperienced 
prospective user try to build asterisk himself and fail? Or someone 
tries to install Acid on a i386? The possibilities are endless.

Your experience with a board may not be the same as mine. Over and over, 
it seems the BBB people come across as thinking they are the only people 
qualified to put out information or code to support AllStar.

I don't think that's the case.

73, Steve N4IRS

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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Fri Feb  6 17:50:27 2015
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:50:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
In-Reply-To: <54D4F1CE.8050300@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502061234330.3201-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Hi Steve,

No, that's not what I was implying. Jim and others have provided some 
wonderful software that is capable of exceedingly good audio and 
performance. Most users start out with a fairly modern PC and ACID, or 
similar. That experience "sets the bar" for what they expect from AllStar.

We, as developers, when saying on a mailing list that something works 
great, must remember that the PC is the benchmark we must compare against.

So, in my experience, have I been able to duplicate PC performance in any
way (SimpleUSB, etc.) on a model B PI using a URI interface?  No, I have
not. But, does that mean it's not possible: Not at all.....But, I am a 30
year experienced embedded developer. If it's not working for me, others
might have a similar frustration. We just have to be careful how we sell a 
platforms capability to other users.

But, please do keep experimenting! Having multiple low-cost boards to 
choose from would be fantastic! As I've said before, the future is bright!


73, David KB4FXC




On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, Steve  Zingman wrote:

> 
> snip:
>  >Anyhow, where I'm going with this is that AllStar certainly needs
>  >enthusiastic developers! But, we developers must remember that we have
>  >a responsibility to make sure less experienced users don't fall into a
>  >disappointing situation where they waste a few weeks of time only to 
>  >end up with an unacceptable result.
> 
> David,
> Are you suggesting that Jim close the SVN since a inexperienced 
> prospective user try to build asterisk himself and fail? Or someone 
> tries to install Acid on a i386? The possibilities are endless.
> 
> Your experience with a board may not be the same as mine. Over and over, 
> it seems the BBB people come across as thinking they are the only people 
> qualified to put out information or code to support AllStar.
> 
> I don't think that's the case.
> 
> 73, Steve N4IRS
> 
> 



From horsezip at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  6 19:38:42 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 14:38:42 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] banwith ?
Message-ID: <2g5adad7s7g5rhc9km46nmu5narsi88df6@4ax.com>

my new allstar box is on 100meg port in a data center i'd like 2 see how
much of my port really getting does anyone on here know how to
stresstest a all star box?
jimmy


From n5zua at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  6 20:45:23 2015
From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 14:45:23 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] banwith ?
In-Reply-To: <2g5adad7s7g5rhc9km46nmu5narsi88df6@4ax.com>
References: <2g5adad7s7g5rhc9km46nmu5narsi88df6@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>

[root at TRS ~]# wget 
https://raw.github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli/master/speedtest_cli.py 
--no-check-certificate
[root at TRS ~]# chmod a+rx speedtest_cli.py
[root at TRS ~]# mv speedtest_cli.py /usr/local/bin/
[root at TRS ~]# chown root:root /usr/local/bin/speedtest_cli.py
[root at TRS ~]# /usr/local/bin/speedtest_cli.py

N5ZUA

On 2/6/2015 1:38 PM, jimmy keffer wrote:
> my new allstar box is on 100meg port in a data center i'd like 2 see how
> much of my port really getting does anyone on here know how to
> stresstest a all star box?
> jimmy
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From rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com  Fri Feb  6 20:50:15 2015
From: rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com (Chuck Henderson)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 14:50:15 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI<>TKR-750 cable
In-Reply-To: <54D4EC93.2080501@earthlink.net>
References: <505673D3.2050703@va3uv.com> <54D4EC93.2080501@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CADEYVwj3behFewbbLbDx4VOrQQwyNkXoo1Pa9u27H-gN3jknUg@mail.gmail.com>

We were using the built in discriminator output (i forget which pin) but
had unsatisfactory results because there is too much filtering between the
discriminator and that output pin.  So I went inside and found an unused
wire running from near the front of the unit to the connector on the back
of the unit and connected the wire to an easily accessible test point that
was unfiltered discriminator audio direct from the discriminator.  If you
have a service manual then these points should be easy to find.  The
results with this new discriminator output were excellent.
If you need help finding the test point then I will have to visit the
repeater site and pick up the manual that I left there before I can give
any details.
Chuck

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Steve Agee <n5zua at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Do you know if pin 10 on a TKR-850 must be programmed to output
> discriminator audio for a URI, or is it "hard wired" that way? I'm
> attempting to remotely assist someone a thousand miles away that has never
> done this before. While I've dealt with about 20 Motorola to URI
> interfaces, I've never messed with a TKR-850 before.
>
> Thanks,
> N5ZUA
>
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From k2dls at arrl.net  Fri Feb  6 21:46:11 2015
From: k2dls at arrl.net (k2dls at arrl.net)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:46:11 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry Pi B+
Message-ID: <000e01d04256$52c690f0$f853b2d0$@arrl.net>

After reading some time ago on this list that running Allstar on a Rasp Pi
was not recommended, I nonetheless tried to get it running on the B+.  I
have been running a simplex node (29577) on a B+ for some months now without
any apparent audio issues.

 

It works to my satisfaction.  Since there is no "turnkey" solution for this
platform, I had to compile from the SVN code.  I ended up using Arch Linux
as the OS at the suggestion of Anthony VK2ACP.  Anthony and I also traded
numerous emails to smooth out the bumps in getting this build running.
Anthony is now planning to make use of what was learned and hopes to build a
turnkey image for the Raspberry Pi.

 

I will at some point hopefully write up what I learned and make it available
for others who want to go through this exercise.  I probably wouldn't have
done it unless I had a couple of Rasp Pi B+ boards around.  Until someone
(perhaps Anthony) decides to put in the work and create a turnkey image, I
don't recommend this for anyone who is not an experienced Linux hacker.

 

There are easier ways (such as the BBB).

 

My .02.

 

73, Dan K2DLS

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From horsezip at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  6 22:21:57 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 17:21:57 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] banwith ?
In-Reply-To: <54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>
References: <2g5adad7s7g5rhc9km46nmu5narsi88df6@4ax.com>
	<54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <s8fada9n8m5nb8gp9vb3gohrr2ec35713v@4ax.com>

thanks for the info 93 down 89 up is that normal 4 a 100meg port?
jimmy


From ewplinc at gmail.com  Sat Feb  7 01:06:18 2015
From: ewplinc at gmail.com (Hugo Escalante)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 20:06:18 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] First Installation Attempt
Message-ID: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>

I have install the CentOS software and it rebooted a few times and ask me
to change the root password which I did.
Now it ask for test login: I'm not sure what login to input. whatever I try
it fails any help?

Hugo
K7HJE
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From N1XBM at amsat.org  Sat Feb  7 01:24:55 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 20:24:55 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] First Installation Attempt
In-Reply-To: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEb9iZiBLVx1_artc4TnRa9niB=mnjuiZ162Q9185QsRdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Does it say

[root at test ~]#

If so you're done and now you can start configuring your system. Try
googling there are some excellent pdf out there guiding you thru the
configuration.
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From N1XBM at amsat.org  Sat Feb  7 01:29:32 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 20:29:32 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] First Installation Attempt
In-Reply-To: <CA+EaPaLQwTmM+ErWsXamHuRkim=wZythZkJDfOQ2S-Et85g5Lw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEb9iZiBLVx1_artc4TnRa9niB=mnjuiZ162Q9185QsRdQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+EaPaLQwTmM+ErWsXamHuRkim=wZythZkJDfOQ2S-Et85g5Lw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEYHt3Ac1kd+inLstQd2RLHwku_LuFjuc+Rh83C7wgR+7g@mail.gmail.com>

I could provide you with links, but cleaver googling.  Something like
allstar setup cent os configuration should give you a good starting point.
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From allstarlink at mcleanzone.com  Sat Feb  7 01:36:14 2015
From: allstarlink at mcleanzone.com (allstarlink at mcleanzone.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 19:36:14 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] First Installation Attempt
In-Reply-To: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007a01d04276$77b59f30$6720dd90$@com>

The username is root.

Password is whatever you set it to. 

 

I made the same mistake long ago. ;-)

 

Thank you,

 

Fred McLean

w0fcm

 

From: Hugo Escalante [mailto:ewplinc at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 7:06 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] First Installation Attempt

 

I have install the CentOS software and it rebooted a few times and ask me to change the root password which I did.

Now it ask for test login: I'm not sure what login to input. whatever I try it fails any help?

 

Hugo

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From lorentedford at gmail.com  Sat Feb  7 02:44:40 2015
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 20:44:40 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] banwith ?
In-Reply-To: <s8fada9n8m5nb8gp9vb3gohrr2ec35713v@4ax.com>
References: <2g5adad7s7g5rhc9km46nmu5narsi88df6@4ax.com>
	<54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>
	<s8fada9n8m5nb8gp9vb3gohrr2ec35713v@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <CAK=eTyg7riGXbG3k_j1yDHfPsy+bX1AbR8di+rT+a6iMqgLAiA@mail.gmail.com>

I have a VPS down in Dallas Texas running Debian Wheezy and I got the
following on my server however was wondering if there was a testing method
that was different than using python scripts kinda like the html test you
can get with your browser at http://testmy.net

Here is what my results where..
root@(none):/home/loren# /usr/local/bin/speedtest_cli.py
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Linode (23.239.26.208)...
Selecting best server based on latency...
Hosted by T-Mobile (West Norriton, PA) [104.63 km]: 41.965 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 131.63 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 15.12 Mbits/s
root@(none):/home/loren# /usr/local/bin/speedtest_cli.py
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Linode (23.239.26.208)...
Selecting best server based on latency...
Hosted by T-Mobile (West Norriton, PA) [104.63 km]: 41.663 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 175.12 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 28.20 Mbits/s
root@(none):/home/loren#



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On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:21 PM, jimmy keffer <horsezip at earthlink.net> wrote:

> thanks for the info 93 down 89 up is that normal 4 a 100meg port?
> jimmy
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Sat Feb  7 03:31:24 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 19:31:24 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] First Installation Attempt
In-Reply-To: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FC049CAE7CE5406AA578A60C6191A802@delllaptop>

No need to Google. As stated your password is what you set when it told you to change it. Remember that the PaSSwOrd is case-sensitive. Otherwise, if you are logged into the box just type [root at allstar]# passwd root and follow the prompts to again change your password. Or not. Re-type the same password that you think it is. But don?t make it too simple. You should also employ some security but that is beyond the scope of this email other than considering locking ssh down.

From: Hugo Escalante 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 5:06 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: [App_rpt-users] First Installation Attempt

I have install the CentOS software and it rebooted a few times and ask me to change the root password which I did. 
Now it ask for test login: I'm not sure what login to input. whatever I try it fails any help?

Hugo
K7HJE


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From n5zua at earthlink.net  Sat Feb  7 03:59:43 2015
From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 21:59:43 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] banwith ?
In-Reply-To: <s8fada9n8m5nb8gp9vb3gohrr2ec35713v@4ax.com>
References: <2g5adad7s7g5rhc9km46nmu5narsi88df6@4ax.com>
	<54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>
	<s8fada9n8m5nb8gp9vb3gohrr2ec35713v@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <54D58DAF.1080205@earthlink.net>

I'd say yes. I get the following, which is not quite as good as your 
connection, but still in the ball park:

[root at TRS ~]# /usr/local/bin/speedtest_cli.py
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Cogent Communications
Selecting best server based on latency...
Hosted by T-Mobile (Houston, TX) [29.98 km]: 28.075 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 74.58 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 79.91 Mbits/s

N5ZUA

On 2/6/2015 4:21 PM, jimmy keffer wrote:
> thanks for the info 93 down 89 up is that normal 4 a 100meg port?
> jimmy
>



From kk6ecm at gmail.com  Sat Feb  7 04:16:43 2015
From: kk6ecm at gmail.com (kk6ecm)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 20:16:43 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] First Installation Attempt
In-Reply-To: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+EaPa+jTsn9LrXbGZhdX4DgLj2JigfMEc53LfaFRtHB2YmOgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19455FCF-9E0B-46A3-95A8-D48DEEE28809@gmail.com>

Sounds like the install did not properly download your node settings from the allstarlink.org website. It may be easiest to just try reloading from scratch again.

Thanks,
Bob
kk6ecm

Sent from iPad


> On Feb 6, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Hugo Escalante <ewplinc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have install the CentOS software and it rebooted a few times and ask me to change the root password which I did.
> Now it ask for test login: I'm not sure what login to input. whatever I try it fails any help?
> 
> Hugo
> K7HJE
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From bmcintosh at paceprofessional.co.uk  Sat Feb  7 10:11:24 2015
From: bmcintosh at paceprofessional.co.uk (B. McIntosh [Pace])
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 10:11:24 -0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry PI-2  and Asterisk
Message-ID: <E16F0B919F6844FF8504C8D790012D56@HPBernie>




Just an update, although I'm not using the apt-rpt fork I'm sure there are
folk interested. 

For over one year I've used Asterisk very succesfully on two Raspberry Pis
B+.

Moved to PI-2 yesterday. Having used dist-upgrade to get current release of
Raspbian Wheezy (7).   I'm running Asterisk 1.8.13.1. 

VOIP slow and stuttering, but at times ok.

The distribution is billed as backward compatible with the Model Bs so I
popped it back into the slower Model B. Works perfectly - every time.

Back to PI-2. Problems with stuttering and very slow voice messages. Seems
to affect voice messages mostly but not exclusively. Two different PI-2s
have been tried.

Thought it might be something to do with the SD card not being able to keep
up.

Moved OS to a USB memory stick, allegedly many times faster than SD.
Perhaps a marginal improvement, but difficult to say. 

I have several other projects getting behind so I don't plan to do anything
more -  the production system remains on the older PI until reports from
others start to appear. More than happy with BBB solution for apt-rpt anyway
so no rush.

73

Bernie
GM4WZG







 




From email at jonbyrne.com  Sat Feb  7 10:56:48 2015
From: email at jonbyrne.com (Jon Byrne)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 10:56:48 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry PI-2 and Asterisk
In-Reply-To: <E16F0B919F6844FF8504C8D790012D56@HPBernie>
References: <E16F0B919F6844FF8504C8D790012D56@HPBernie>
Message-ID: <CALLtVpU53Oj2MFQ7TLLRghdEt_44sOhj+k-s8G=t2phu60+HsA@mail.gmail.com>

Good Morning

Update from south of the border too.

I spent a few hours last night working on the Raspberry Pi 2 & app_rpt
combining Steve N4IRS notes and scripts with some tinkering and I have a
working version of app_rpt allstarlink on my 40886 node.

I was not particularly happy with the current Raspbian release as it caused
my machine to crash a few times. So I have moved to a purer version of
Debian Jessie compiled for ARM7 and with a couple of simple extra steps all
went well.

I currently have not USB FOB that I can modify but I have the audio
outputting to a small speaker and additionally via my hub and then RF Node
and so far so good. Plan on making / obtaining a interface for one of my
handhelds and then I can really put it to test.

I will feed back my notes to N4IRS when I have given it another 24 hours
running and connected to a busy hub but if anyone wants to contact me off
list then go for it.

I will update here with anything important.

Regards

Jon
2E0RFU


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Jon Byrne - 2E0RFU
email at jonbyrne.com -jonbyrne.com - 07842 230 604

On 7 February 2015 at 10:11, B. McIntosh [Pace] <
bmcintosh at paceprofessional.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>
> Just an update, although I'm not using the apt-rpt fork I'm sure there are
> folk interested.
>
> For over one year I've used Asterisk very succesfully on two Raspberry Pis
> B+.
>
> Moved to PI-2 yesterday. Having used dist-upgrade to get current release of
> Raspbian Wheezy (7).   I'm running Asterisk 1.8.13.1.
>
> VOIP slow and stuttering, but at times ok.
>
> The distribution is billed as backward compatible with the Model Bs so I
> popped it back into the slower Model B. Works perfectly - every time.
>
> Back to PI-2. Problems with stuttering and very slow voice messages. Seems
> to affect voice messages mostly but not exclusively. Two different PI-2s
> have been tried.
>
> Thought it might be something to do with the SD card not being able to keep
> up.
>
> Moved OS to a USB memory stick, allegedly many times faster than SD.
> Perhaps a marginal improvement, but difficult to say.
>
> I have several other projects getting behind so I don't plan to do anything
> more -  the production system remains on the older PI until reports from
> others start to appear. More than happy with BBB solution for apt-rpt
> anyway
> so no rush.
>
> 73
>
> Bernie
> GM4WZG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sat Feb  7 15:08:19 2015
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 10:08:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry PI-2  and Asterisk
In-Reply-To: <E16F0B919F6844FF8504C8D790012D56@HPBernie>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502070954530.6278-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Hi Bernie,

So your running a recent Asterisk version, but not the AllStar release, 
on the RPi?  Have you tried the AllStar code?

Even though Asterisk is the host environment for AllStar, the
apps/app_rpt.c, channels/chan_simpleusb.c and related code make comparing
these different environments impossible. From a resource utilization
standpoint, it's rather like comparing a freezer ice cube to the iceberg
that sank the Titanic!!  (Well, maybe not quite that extreme! HiHI) 
...The AllStar code (with USB support) uses a LOT of CPU power, etc.!

For all who are interested out there, the plain Asterisk distro (not
AllStar) runs great on most of the little boards that I've tested.

Anyway, please don't take this as criticism--I'm not meaning that at all.  
And, I'm very interested to hear what results users are having with any
installation of Asterisk or AllStar.


73, David KB4FXC




On Sat, 7 Feb 2015, B. McIntosh [Pace] wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Just an update, although I'm not using the apt-rpt fork I'm sure there are
> folk interested. 
> 
> For over one year I've used Asterisk very succesfully on two Raspberry Pis
> B+.
> 
> Moved to PI-2 yesterday. Having used dist-upgrade to get current release of
> Raspbian Wheezy (7).   I'm running Asterisk 1.8.13.1. 
> 
> VOIP slow and stuttering, but at times ok.
> 
> The distribution is billed as backward compatible with the Model Bs so I
> popped it back into the slower Model B. Works perfectly - every time.
> 
> Back to PI-2. Problems with stuttering and very slow voice messages. Seems
> to affect voice messages mostly but not exclusively. Two different PI-2s
> have been tried.
> 
> Thought it might be something to do with the SD card not being able to keep
> up.
> 
> Moved OS to a USB memory stick, allegedly many times faster than SD.
> Perhaps a marginal improvement, but difficult to say. 
> 
> I have several other projects getting behind so I don't plan to do anything
> more -  the production system remains on the older PI until reports from
> others start to appear. More than happy with BBB solution for apt-rpt anyway
> so no rush.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bernie
> GM4WZG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From mike.zingman at gmail.com  Sat Feb  7 17:45:52 2015
From: mike.zingman at gmail.com (Mike Zingman)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 12:45:52 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry PI-2 and Asterisk
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502070954530.6278-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <E16F0B919F6844FF8504C8D790012D56@HPBernie>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.1502070954530.6278-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <CAHS3md8LUKnRKh-Ut9xiHb-3qTmfgFJjt0owZuDO-wSVHUXjHw@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, my P2 was also sluggish until I moved the governor from on demand to
performance.

Mike
On Feb 7, 2015 10:25 AM, "David McGough" <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:

>
> Hi Bernie,
>
> So your running a recent Asterisk version, but not the AllStar release,
> on the RPi?  Have you tried the AllStar code?
>
> Even though Asterisk is the host environment for AllStar, the
> apps/app_rpt.c, channels/chan_simpleusb.c and related code make comparing
> these different environments impossible. From a resource utilization
> standpoint, it's rather like comparing a freezer ice cube to the iceberg
> that sank the Titanic!!  (Well, maybe not quite that extreme! HiHI)
> ...The AllStar code (with USB support) uses a LOT of CPU power, etc.!
>
> For all who are interested out there, the plain Asterisk distro (not
> AllStar) runs great on most of the little boards that I've tested.
>
> Anyway, please don't take this as criticism--I'm not meaning that at all.
> And, I'm very interested to hear what results users are having with any
> installation of Asterisk or AllStar.
>
>
> 73, David KB4FXC
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2015, B. McIntosh [Pace] wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Just an update, although I'm not using the apt-rpt fork I'm sure there
> are
> > folk interested.
> >
> > For over one year I've used Asterisk very succesfully on two Raspberry
> Pis
> > B+.
> >
> > Moved to PI-2 yesterday. Having used dist-upgrade to get current release
> of
> > Raspbian Wheezy (7).   I'm running Asterisk 1.8.13.1.
> >
> > VOIP slow and stuttering, but at times ok.
> >
> > The distribution is billed as backward compatible with the Model Bs so I
> > popped it back into the slower Model B. Works perfectly - every time.
> >
> > Back to PI-2. Problems with stuttering and very slow voice messages.
> Seems
> > to affect voice messages mostly but not exclusively. Two different PI-2s
> > have been tried.
> >
> > Thought it might be something to do with the SD card not being able to
> keep
> > up.
> >
> > Moved OS to a USB memory stick, allegedly many times faster than SD.
> > Perhaps a marginal improvement, but difficult to say.
> >
> > I have several other projects getting behind so I don't plan to do
> anything
> > more -  the production system remains on the older PI until reports from
> > others start to appear. More than happy with BBB solution for apt-rpt
> anyway
> > so no rush.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bernie
> > GM4WZG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
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From bmcintosh at paceprofessional.co.uk  Sat Feb  7 17:52:43 2015
From: bmcintosh at paceprofessional.co.uk (B. McIntosh [Pace])
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 17:52:43 -0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry PI-2  and Asterisk
Message-ID: <B020003A46D149A492BA92B52599C8FA@HPBernie>

 
Hi David,

No, I haven't tried the Allstar code on PI2. I don't intend to. I've got a
BBB for that. Sorry if its off topic, but I figured that in these early days
of the PI2 folk might be interested in my finding that the mainstream
Asterisk code is not working well on the standard distro, yet works fine on
the older PI. It occurred to me that if the mainstream package isn't working
where it used to on the old machine, you might want to infer that the extra
overhead of using the Allstar code probably wouldn't be too successful
either. Only an inference and yet to be demonstrated. 

I only ever want to run vanilla asterisk on the PI2 and so had better make
this the last post on the point since I should be more "on topic" on the
Asterisk users mailing list for that.


73 and keep up the good work

Bernie
GM4WZG


Hi Bernie,

So your running a recent Asterisk version, but not the AllStar release, 
on the RPi?  Have you tried the AllStar code?

Even though Asterisk is the host environment for AllStar, the
apps/app_rpt.c, channels/chan_simpleusb.c and related code make comparing
these different environments impossible. From a resource utilization
standpoint, it's rather like comparing a freezer ice cube to the iceberg
that sank the Titanic!!  (Well, maybe not quite that extreme! HiHI) 
...The AllStar code (with USB support) uses a LOT of CPU power, etc.!

For all who are interested out there, the plain Asterisk distro (not
AllStar) runs great on most of the little boards that I've tested.

Anyway, please don't take this as criticism--I'm not meaning that at all.  
And, I'm very interested to hear what results users are having with any
installation of Asterisk or AllStar.


73, David KB4FXC




From ewplinc at gmail.com  Sat Feb  7 21:03:16 2015
From: ewplinc at gmail.com (Hugo Escalante)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:03:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New Configuration Help
Message-ID: <CA+EaPa+-2464wMUKqS23enZL8imZUeEV64jqBdb7s4JbkhXL3g@mail.gmail.com>

I have install the CenTOS software with all the hardware installed URI and
Radio, but it never did ask me for node number, callsign etc.
I'm at the [root at test ~]#
I know I now need to configure this not sure how to change directories.
CD /etc just brings me back to the root

Hugo
K7HJE
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From asylthe at kc9ona.com  Sat Feb  7 21:22:44 2015
From: asylthe at kc9ona.com (Andrew Sylthe)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 15:22:44 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] banwith ?
In-Reply-To: <54D58DAF.1080205@earthlink.net>
References: <2g5adad7s7g5rhc9km46nmu5narsi88df6@4ax.com>
	<54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>
	<s8fada9n8m5nb8gp9vb3gohrr2ec35713v@4ax.com>
	<54D58DAF.1080205@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAMbt3duVG+9SDE2_X4FhS2E3MahJqYmDHitmRV1v95y5EzTwpg@mail.gmail.com>

Jimmy,

You'll never see exactly 100 mbit because of the ethernet and packet
overhead. The numbers seem spot on to me.

Thanks!
On Feb 6, 2015 10:08 PM, "Steve Agee" <n5zua at earthlink.net> wrote:

> I'd say yes. I get the following, which is not quite as good as your
> connection, but still in the ball park:
>
> [root at TRS ~]# /usr/local/bin/speedtest_cli.py
> Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
> Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
> Testing from Cogent Communications
> Selecting best server based on latency...
> Hosted by T-Mobile (Houston, TX) [29.98 km]: 28.075 ms
> Testing download speed........................................
> Download: 74.58 Mbits/s
> Testing upload speed..................................................
> Upload: 79.91 Mbits/s
>
> N5ZUA
>
> On 2/6/2015 4:21 PM, jimmy keffer wrote:
>
>> thanks for the info 93 down 89 up is that normal 4 a 100meg port?
>> jimmy
>>
>>
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From ewplinc at gmail.com  Sat Feb  7 23:02:16 2015
From: ewplinc at gmail.com (Hugo Escalante)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 18:02:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Permission Denied
Message-ID: <CA+EaPaL+gWdeqqN7vAdcNfYuNE+-+7RajSSaGqabngVQDsvh_w@mail.gmail.com>

I'm trying to edit my configuration files but it keeps denying me
permission, any suggestions?
I having a hell of a hard time with this but I keep hanging in there.

Thanks

Hugo
K7HJE
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Sat Feb  7 23:41:36 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 18:41:36 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Permission Denied
In-Reply-To: <WM!f0e8f3d7b0f583d5d9efe8f6bd22bf1c1f8b3fe5d1bfb89f6190546d65c436b711633f2fb30de554d1488e7e2f61bf80!@asav-2.01.com>
References: <CA+EaPaL+gWdeqqN7vAdcNfYuNE+-+7RajSSaGqabngVQDsvh_w@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!f0e8f3d7b0f583d5d9efe8f6bd22bf1c1f8b3fe5d1bfb89f6190546d65c436b711633f2fb30de554d1488e7e2f61bf80!@asav-2.01.com>
Message-ID: <54D6A2B0.2060504@bryanfields.net>

On 2/7/15, 6:02 PM, Hugo Escalante wrote:
> I'm trying to edit my configuration files but it keeps denying me permission,
> any suggestions?
> I having a hell of a hard time with this but I keep hanging in there.

Are you root?


-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net


From N1XBM at amsat.org  Sat Feb  7 23:54:34 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 18:54:34 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New Configuration Help
In-Reply-To: <CA+EaPa+-2464wMUKqS23enZL8imZUeEV64jqBdb7s4JbkhXL3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+EaPa+-2464wMUKqS23enZL8imZUeEV64jqBdb7s4JbkhXL3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEa0UkqkzibgfPHox-xSN4YXmDKaUwbDwbWGfzJwzCTuDw@mail.gmail.com>

Have you read ACID system administrators guide?

>From root you could try typing nodesetup.sh
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From mike at midnighteng.com  Sun Feb  8 00:12:04 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:12:04 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Permission Denied
Message-ID: <227b53fc40becfcf73f3f6c496bd79fb.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


If you are using a default set-up,
you should be using "root" as user log-in.

If not, most likely, you are using a user you created that does not have
ownership rights of the files you are trying to manipulate.

Lean more by googleing linux file ownership.
Also see linux file permissions.

I would suggest to anyone not to jump off the beaten path until you
understand what you are doing with linux, asterisk and/or app_rpt.

...mike/kb8jnm



> I'm trying to edit my configuration files but it keeps denying me
> permission, any suggestions?
> I having a hell of a hard time with this but I keep hanging in there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Hugo
> K7HJE
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Sun Feb  8 02:12:16 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:12:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] pciradio DCS decode config?
Message-ID: <54D6C600.30302@bryanfields.net>

So I've been messing with my 902 mhz repeater here and wanted to move it to
DCS eventually (all radios on 902 have DCS).

I've never setup DCS on pciradio before, but have done CTCSS(pl) and it works.
However when moving it to DCS I've not been able to get it to do anything and
it just acts like carrier squelch.

Anyone have any ideas?  (and yes, I've run ztcfg and rebooted a few times)

my zaptel.conf

# zaptel.conf
# HEY DUMMY DON'T FORGET TO RUN "ztcfg" AFTER CHANGING ME
e&m=1
loadzone = us
defaultzone=us

#tx=1072                # Uncomment for CTCSS encode and decode
#ctcss=1072,1,1072
#invertcor=y
#exttone=n

tx=D432
dcsrx=432
exttone=n
invertcor=y

channels=1

73's W9CR
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
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From ldrolet at cgocable.ca  Sun Feb  8 02:35:08 2015
From: ldrolet at cgocable.ca (Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:35:08 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] XIPAR
Message-ID: <F7C655AB368A4A85AB6F62577C25EE51@PCdeclient>

Hello to you all,

I want to install a Xipar on a computer, 3 times and I still can have an error message 
"Unable to retrive http://mirroir.anl.gov/pub/centros/6/os/i386/images/install. img "
I even burn another cd d`installation

I think it's the XIPAR server, when do you think?

Thank you and Happy Day

73`s
Luc
VE2LUQ
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Feb  8 15:09:48 2015
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 10:09:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ras Pi 2 doesn't like xenon flashes???
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502081002540.11690-100000@goliath.inttek.net>



Hi Everyone,

I just saw this thread in another newsgroup. Basically, they're saying the 
Pi2 will hang/crash if subjected to a close xenon camera flash discharge!

Weird! Can anyone confirm if this is true?  ...If they're sensitive to a 
flash, they might be sensitive to RF as well. Perhaps an EMP issue?

Here is a link to the thread: 
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042

Again, I have NOT personally confirmed this report, but am sitting here 
looking puzzled!


73, David KB4FXC




From steve at donegan.org  Sun Feb  8 15:45:33 2015
From: steve at donegan.org (Steven Donegan)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 15:45:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ras Pi 2 doesn't like xenon flashes???
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502081002540.11690-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502081002540.11690-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <1988244065.1543165.1423410333625.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I tend to believe something in the power supply circuitry is light sensitive (Xenon flash is pretty bright after all), EMP is unlikely.If you had the time and inclination you could mask off the whole board, flash, and my bet is it would still be running, then selectively un-mask a part at a time until you found the culprit :-)
But, how many times would a bright flash be experienced in a repeater anyway?
?____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

      From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
 To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
 Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 7:09 AM
 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ras Pi 2 doesn't like xenon flashes???
   


Hi Everyone,

I just saw this thread in another newsgroup. Basically, they're saying the 
Pi2 will hang/crash if subjected to a close xenon camera flash discharge!

Weird! Can anyone confirm if this is true?? ...If they're sensitive to a 
flash, they might be sensitive to RF as well. Perhaps an EMP issue?

Here is a link to the thread: 
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042

Again, I have NOT personally confirmed this report, but am sitting here 
looking puzzled!


73, David KB4FXC


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From n3xcc at repeater-builder.com  Sun Feb  8 15:54:05 2015
From: n3xcc at repeater-builder.com (Scott Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 10:54:05 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] XIPAR
In-Reply-To: <F7C655AB368A4A85AB6F62577C25EE51@PCdeclient>
References: <F7C655AB368A4A85AB6F62577C25EE51@PCdeclient>
Message-ID: <54D7869D.9030500@repeater-builder.com>

Luc,

I also ran into this in the past week. It's not a XIPAR server issue as much as a Centos 6 
repository server issue. I was able to find an exhaustive list of alternative servers, but I 
couldn't get any of them to work.

http://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/

It was at this point that I remembered I had imaged a HDD that had the install already complete. 
Since I was making an EXACT replica of that system, I cheated and simply put that image onto another 
drive and all was well.

At the time I figured out how to enter a different URL for the image location, I also found that you 
could tell the installer to use an image off of a CD or USB stick. Since I couldn't find a known 
good image to try, I couldn't get that functionality to work either, but it made me think about 
burning a good image to a disc, then using that during the install process to save internet download 
time and throughput.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

On 2/7/2015 9:35 PM, Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ wrote:
> Hello to you all,
>
> I want to install a Xipar on a computer, 3 times and I still can have an error message
> "Unable to retrive http://mirroir.anl.gov/pub/centros/6/os/i386/images/install. img "
> I even burn another cd d`installation
>
> I think it's the XIPAR server, when do you think?
>
> Thank you and Happy Day
>
> 73`s
> Luc
> VE2LUQ
>
>
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From steve at donegan.org  Sun Feb  8 16:20:23 2015
From: steve at donegan.org (Steven Donegan)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 16:20:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI
In-Reply-To: <54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>
References: <54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1179134897.1573955.1423412423511.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

It seems to me that a Wolfson audio board (on a Pi or Pi interface compatible) and bringing out some GPIO pins would potentially replace a USB URI like the DMK - has anyone tried doing something like this?
?____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

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From doug at crompton.com  Sun Feb  8 17:33:02 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:33:02 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI
In-Reply-To: <1179134897.1573955.1423412423511.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <54D527E3.8040707@earthlink.net>,
	<1179134897.1573955.1423412423511.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W2761FF12DCD523D8C190AEBA260@phx.gbl>

Steven,

 Besides the fact that it would need a channel driver written to support it, unless it was a produced product it would not be used widely enough to warrant the time spend developing it. The USB interface on the other hand is universal and works across all platforms or at least it is suppose to. It has worked well on the PC and on the BBB  but the RPi not so well. The reason it works better on some platforms and not others is sometimes in the HW but more often in the kernel support. It takes awhile for the SW on new boards to mature and some Linux flavors are more aggressive about kernel updates than others and there have been lots of USB fixes in late ARM kernels. While experimenting with things is fine the problem comes in when trying to sell it to the troops. USB is simple and if cost is a factor it would be a whole lot easier to just modify a USB FOB and use a platform where it works.   
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 16:20:23 +0000
From: steve at donegan.org
To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI

It seems to me that a Wolfson audio board (on a Pi or Pi interface compatible) and bringing out some GPIO pins would potentially replace a USB URI like the DMK - has anyone tried doing something like this?
 ____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

    
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Sun Feb  8 17:51:28 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:51:28 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] VPS Installation of Allstar
Message-ID: <E1A00E4D826C4F0292CF007A2CDFB29A@delllaptop>

The company that I work for allows me to keep a server in one of their racks. I use Virtuozzo VPS and my ?containers? are backed up nightly just like client servers. Nice perk of the job. The thing is that when one deploys a ?container? it only installs a very minimal OS. Applications generally call RPM or YUM and grab what they need.

I?ve read recently of some that a lot of experience with Debian and other flavors. My question is this: how does one get Allstar loaded from a minimal installation? I can build a server that is not running VPS but if I can get the best of both worlds... We?re finally getting our RTCM installed in the repeater and I want to set up a hub and getting cracking!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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From horsezip at earthlink.net  Sun Feb  8 18:09:02 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 13:09:02 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] need linux help
Message-ID: <fs7fdap6uhmvvr6so6sl1m9pgvebml58oa@4ax.com>

i want my firewall to log to all dropped to a file and once a day email
me that file i will  give some 1 remote box 2 box 2 someone who can set
this up the firewall and sendmail 2 emal this 2 me at
horsezip at earthlink.net
jimmy ka3vgm


From mike at midnighteng.com  Sun Feb  8 18:49:20 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 10:49:20 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ras Pi 2 doesn't like xenon flashes???
Message-ID: <2f4fec400c81fea519147913da6a4ef1.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


Not having tested it specifically, I would find it plausible for a xenon
flash in very close proximity to a micro-controller create a problem but
only in this way...

RFI/EMP burst during flash, a pulse being picked-up on circuits. If not
RFI changing something directly in ram, EMP could just put a extra binary
digit in a stream of data or a extra pulse in the clock line. The later in
the clock line being most probable for a lock-up. Not from the flash of
light. The broad pulse comes from it's ballast. The wires attached to it
and the bulb act as a antenna.

If it is a problem with a strobe light, I'll bet you could get a similar
action from a close proximity GSM cell phone during certain phone actions.
And I would also bet you could find that the Pi would not be the only type
of micro-controller than can be affected by this type of thing.

Not to worry, Shield your Pi like you should be doing in any case and
provide sinks for RFI on all lines in and out of the shielded area. This
would be normal protection in a RF hostile environment. Radio 101 - It
should never be a real issue in a properly constructed repeater.

...mike/kb8jnm

>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I just saw this thread in another newsgroup. Basically, they're saying the
> Pi2 will hang/crash if subjected to a close xenon camera flash discharge!
>
> Weird! Can anyone confirm if this is true?  ...If they're sensitive to a
> flash, they might be sensitive to RF as well. Perhaps an EMP issue?
>
> Here is a link to the thread:
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042
>
> Again, I have NOT personally confirmed this report, but am sitting here
> looking puzzled!
>
>
> 73, David KB4FXC
>
>
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Feb  8 19:11:53 2015
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 14:11:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ras Pi 2 doesn't like xenon flashes???
In-Reply-To: <2f4fec400c81fea519147913da6a4ef1.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502081402330.11690-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Hi Mike & Everyone,

My initial questions (and alarm) were if the RPi2 might be excessively 
sensitive to external EMI---something like that can be really hard to deal 
with around high RF environments.

But, after reading more threads, it appears this issue is truly light
sensitivity in one of the switching PS chips (U16), due to how it's
encapsulated (or lack thereof!) in plastic. Adding a small light shield
apparently fixes this issue, based on what other testers say.

I don't yet have a RPi2, so I can't test.


73, David KB4FXC



On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 mike at midnighteng.com wrote:

> 
> Not having tested it specifically, I would find it plausible for a xenon
> flash in very close proximity to a micro-controller create a problem but
> only in this way...
> 
> RFI/EMP burst during flash, a pulse being picked-up on circuits. If not
> RFI changing something directly in ram, EMP could just put a extra binary
> digit in a stream of data or a extra pulse in the clock line. The later in
> the clock line being most probable for a lock-up. Not from the flash of
> light. The broad pulse comes from it's ballast. The wires attached to it
> and the bulb act as a antenna.
> 
> If it is a problem with a strobe light, I'll bet you could get a similar
> action from a close proximity GSM cell phone during certain phone actions.
> And I would also bet you could find that the Pi would not be the only type
> of micro-controller than can be affected by this type of thing.
> 
> Not to worry, Shield your Pi like you should be doing in any case and
> provide sinks for RFI on all lines in and out of the shielded area. This
> would be normal protection in a RF hostile environment. Radio 101 - It
> should never be a real issue in a properly constructed repeater.
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I just saw this thread in another newsgroup. Basically, they're saying the
> > Pi2 will hang/crash if subjected to a close xenon camera flash discharge!
> >
> > Weird! Can anyone confirm if this is true?  ...If they're sensitive to a
> > flash, they might be sensitive to RF as well. Perhaps an EMP issue?
> >
> > Here is a link to the thread:
> > http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042
> >
> > Again, I have NOT personally confirmed this report, but am sitting here
> > looking puzzled!
> >
> >
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
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From mike at midnighteng.com  Sun Feb  8 20:00:39 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:00:39 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ras Pi 2 doesn't like xenon flashes???
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502081402330.11690-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502081402330.11690-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <0d0ff83ce86369ea29f91a2b020e9556.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


Yes,
In fact I do believe my reply is totally appropriate to make.
It is in direct context to repeater controllers running app_rpt.
Even though I did not know what the intent was from the originator of the
message for the lack of details, my reply was totally appropriate.

Sorry you do not feel that way.

...mike/kb8jnm


> Is this really an appropriate thread for the apt_rpt group?
> I know you did not originate the discussion but maybe you can help move it
> to a better place.
>
> Thanks
>
> Craig
> AC2FE
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 8, 2015, at 1:49 PM, mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
>
>
> Not having tested it specifically, I would find it plausible for a xenon
> flash in very close proximity to a micro-controller create a problem but
> only in this way...
>
> RFI/EMP burst during flash, a pulse being picked-up on circuits. If not
> RFI changing something directly in ram, EMP could just put a extra binary
> digit in a stream of data or a extra pulse in the clock line. The later in
> the clock line being most probable for a lock-up. Not from the flash of
> light. The broad pulse comes from it's ballast. The wires attached to it
> and the bulb act as a antenna.
>
> If it is a problem with a strobe light, I'll bet you could get a similar
> action from a close proximity GSM cell phone during certain phone actions.
> And I would also bet you could find that the Pi would not be the only type
> of micro-controller than can be affected by this type of thing.
>
> Not to worry, Shield your Pi like you should be doing in any case and
> provide sinks for RFI on all lines in and out of the shielded area. This
> would be normal protection in a RF hostile environment. Radio 101 - It
> should never be a real issue in a properly constructed repeater.
>
> ...mike/kb8jnm
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I just saw this thread in another newsgroup. Basically, they're saying
>> the
>> Pi2 will hang/crash if subjected to a close xenon camera flash
>> discharge!
>>
>> Weird! Can anyone confirm if this is true?  ...If they're sensitive to a
>> flash, they might be sensitive to RF as well. Perhaps an EMP issue?
>>
>> Here is a link to the thread:
%



From mike at midnighteng.com  Sun Feb  8 20:42:04 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:42:04 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ras Pi 2 doesn't like xenon flashes???
Message-ID: <e27a5457ff07735440244be27783df4b.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


While not familiar with the Pi2,
I guess I have learned something.

Never would have dreamed of a photo-sensitive chip outside of a eprom.
Especially in the power supply area.
They must use a on-chip led/photo transistor as a flip/flop toggle of the
power. Opto-isolation. That would make sense. I have seen chips with just
that but have not used them. A good lesson on new analog things to
troubleshoot.

All these micro-controllers are susceptible to digital rfi/rfp noise.
Proper shielding your controller is still best practice regardless. Unless
you like surprises that make you scratch your head.

...mike/kb8jnm

>
> Hi Mike & Everyone,
>
> My initial questions (and alarm) were if the RPi2 might be excessively
> sensitive to external EMI---something like that can be really hard to deal
> with around high RF environments.
>
> But, after reading more threads, it appears this issue is truly light
> sensitivity in one of the switching PS chips (U16), due to how it's
> encapsulated (or lack thereof!) in plastic. Adding a small light shield
> apparently fixes this issue, based on what other testers say.
>
> I don't yet have a RPi2, so I can't test.
>
>
> 73, David KB4FXC
>
>
>
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Not having tested it specifically, I would find it plausible for a xenon
>> flash in very close proximity to a micro-controller create a problem but
>> only in this way...
>>
>> RFI/EMP burst during flash, a pulse being picked-up on circuits. If not
>> RFI changing something directly in ram, EMP could just put a extra
>> binary
>> digit in a stream of data or a extra pulse in the clock line. The later
>> in
>> the clock line being most probable for a lock-up. Not from the flash of
>> light. The broad pulse comes from it's ballast. The wires attached to it
>> and the bulb act as a antenna.
>>
>> If it is a problem with a strobe light, I'll bet you could get a similar
>> action from a close proximity GSM cell phone during certain phone
>> actions.
>> And I would also bet you could find that the Pi would not be the only
>> type
>> of micro-controller than can be affected by this type of thing.
>>
>> Not to worry, Shield your Pi like you should be doing in any case and
>> provide sinks for RFI on all lines in and out of the shielded area. This
>> would be normal protection in a RF hostile environment. Radio 101 - It
>> should never be a real issue in a properly constructed repeater.
>>
>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > I just saw this thread in another newsgroup. Basically, they're saying
>> the
>> > Pi2 will hang/crash if subjected to a close xenon camera flash
>> discharge!
>> >
>> > Weird! Can anyone confirm if this is true?  ...If they're sensitive to
>> a
>> > flash, they might be sensitive to RF as well. Perhaps an EMP issue?
>> >
>> > Here is a link to the thread:
>> > http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042
>> >
>> > Again, I have NOT personally confirmed this report, but am sitting
>> here
>> > looking puzzled!
>> >
>> >
>> > 73, David KB4FXC
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > App_rpt-users mailing list
>> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> >
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>> down
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>> > "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
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>> to
>> > the list detailing the problem.
>> >
>>
>>
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Mon Feb  9 00:14:25 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 16:14:25 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey
Message-ID: <3C5CEC19DE6C445FB1E55EFAA6D4AC34@delllaptop>

I must admit that in my business all I have a 20 pound sledge hammers when a picture frame hammer would work   I did come across a working Dell Celeron 2.66GHz with 512mb of RAM. I know that SDD?s are preferred but well, I don?t want to buy anything during the testing phase. So let me just ask: will a Celeron 2.66GHz work as a small test hub?
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From asylthe at kc9ona.com  Mon Feb  9 00:17:54 2015
From: asylthe at kc9ona.com (Andrew Sylthe)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 18:17:54 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey
In-Reply-To: <3C5CEC19DE6C445FB1E55EFAA6D4AC34@delllaptop>
References: <3C5CEC19DE6C445FB1E55EFAA6D4AC34@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <CAMbt3duvt2ueEh-7dFLF=-peL4T9p=vr2nTohXKMnhAbCLKM8A@mail.gmail.com>

Absolutely
On Feb 8, 2015 6:14 PM, "Wayne" <wayne at anywherehost.net> wrote:

>   I must admit that in my business all I have a 20 pound sledge hammers
> when a picture frame hammer would work [image: Smile]  I did come across
> a working Dell Celeron 2.66GHz with 512mb of RAM. I know that SDD?s are
> preferred but well, I don?t want to buy anything during the testing phase.
> So let me just ask: will a Celeron 2.66GHz work as a small test hub?
>
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Mon Feb  9 00:44:33 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 16:44:33 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey
In-Reply-To: <CAMbt3duvt2ueEh-7dFLF=-peL4T9p=vr2nTohXKMnhAbCLKM8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3C5CEC19DE6C445FB1E55EFAA6D4AC34@delllaptop>
	<CAMbt3duvt2ueEh-7dFLF=-peL4T9p=vr2nTohXKMnhAbCLKM8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F4DE5C90940D43BD8D5E40227239B449@delllaptop>

Awesome! That means that we can get the RTCM online and going from there. Thanks Andrew. I appreciate you taking time to answer.

From: Andrew Sylthe 
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:17 PM
To: Wayne 
Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey

Absolutely 

On Feb 8, 2015 6:14 PM, "Wayne" <wayne at anywherehost.net> wrote:

  I must admit that in my business all I have a 20 pound sledge hammers when a picture frame hammer would work   I did come across a working Dell Celeron 2.66GHz with 512mb of RAM. I know that SDD?s are preferred but well, I don?t want to buy anything during the testing phase. So let me just ask: will a Celeron 2.66GHz work as a small test hub?

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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Mon Feb  9 00:48:13 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:48:13 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey
In-Reply-To: <WM!6f0f4954aa93b2731dac5d38ab5df76dbc233826758a367e075f5453e739b3af3be9b4293e7b900fc4245f5da3d10f15!@asav-3.01.com>
References: <3C5CEC19DE6C445FB1E55EFAA6D4AC34@delllaptop>	<CAMbt3duvt2ueEh-7dFLF=-peL4T9p=vr2nTohXKMnhAbCLKM8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<F4DE5C90940D43BD8D5E40227239B449@delllaptop>
	<WM!6f0f4954aa93b2731dac5d38ab5df76dbc233826758a367e075f5453e739b3af3be9b4293e7b900fc4245f5da3d10f15!@asav-3.01.com>
Message-ID: <54D803CD.5090708@bryanfields.net>

On 2/8/15, 7:44 PM, Wayne wrote:
> Awesome! That means that we can get the RTCM online and going from there.
> Thanks Andrew. I appreciate you taking time to answer.

If you're using RTCM's, a PIII 800 will be overkill ;)

-- 
Bryan Fields

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727-214-2508 - Fax
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Mon Feb  9 01:18:44 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 17:18:44 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey
In-Reply-To: <54D803CD.5090708@bryanfields.net>
References: <3C5CEC19DE6C445FB1E55EFAA6D4AC34@delllaptop>	<CAMbt3duvt2ueEh-7dFLF=-peL4T9p=vr2nTohXKMnhAbCLKM8A@mail.gmail.com><F4DE5C90940D43BD8D5E40227239B449@delllaptop><WM!6f0f4954aa93b2731dac5d38ab5df76dbc233826758a367e075f5453e739b3af3be9b4293e7b900fc4245f5da3d10f15!@asav-3.01.com>
	<54D803CD.5090708@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <624499D1B9A74E7F83F2126068BDA118@delllaptop>

That's the plan. RTCM's at 2-3 sites. This will be a hub at my home until
moving to an even larger/faster machine at my companies data center. I'm not
sure how all of the pieces fit yet but I want to give back in some way as
well. A dual processor AMD with twin drives on RAID is planned because,
well, I have a spare one. It remains my hope to actually get this into a
VPS.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bryan Fields
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:48 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey

On 2/8/15, 7:44 PM, Wayne wrote:
> Awesome! That means that we can get the RTCM online and going from there.
> Thanks Andrew. I appreciate you taking time to answer.

If you're using RTCM's, a PIII 800 will be overkill ;)

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net
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From james at w8nsa.net  Mon Feb  9 03:41:19 2015
From: james at w8nsa.net (Jim Cook)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 22:41:19 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] local rpt access via local extension?
Message-ID: <54D82C5F.7040609@w8nsa.net>


Sorry if this is more of an Asterisk question....

I'm deep into learning how to set up an Allstar* system.  Had
configure allstar//asterisk (lots of google and fumbling around) so
that I could access to my node via a local extension in the shack.

In the process of switching from usbradio to simpleusb my edited
extensions file was overwritten.  (the custom stuff is now in
custom/extensions.conf and I have backup copies !)

This dial plan results in a warning message from app_rpt:
We only accept links via IAX2, Echolink, TheLinkBox or local !!

(context from custom/extensions.conf)

[in-shack]
exten => 6010,1,Dial(SIP/6010,60,rT)
exten => 6020,1,Dial(SIP/6020,60,rT)
exten => 6099,1,Goto(radio-secure,27739,1)


How do I make extension 6099 'local' to app_rpt again?

I can dial between the extensions but fail with
reorder/fast busy on 6099..

I know I HAD it working at 2 am the other night!

Thanks in advance for any pointers on how to get this working again.

Jimc -- W8NSA

*standard installation from the Allstar download CD.




From mike at midnighteng.com  Mon Feb  9 04:41:01 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 20:41:01 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] local rpt access via local extension?
In-Reply-To: <54D82C5F.7040609@w8nsa.net>
References: <54D82C5F.7040609@w8nsa.net>
Message-ID: <4de24c7f42927e1a4b068f2cdd215097.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>

Well Jim,

Somehow I don't think I know exactly what you are doing but...

exten => 6099,1,Dial(SIP/6099,60)

If you want to dial the repeater from any extension, you only need dial
the repeater node number (assuming you have not changed very much from
default and the node is on that local server)

There was no need to use the goto redirect from a extension number, from
what you have shown, to dial the node. Perhaps you have other reasons but
you will need the line above if that extension is to ring from anywhere on
you server dialing 6099.

Perhaps if I don't have things straight, you can give additional details.

...mike/kb8jnm

>
> Sorry if this is more of an Asterisk question....
>
> I'm deep into learning how to set up an Allstar* system.  Had
> configure allstar//asterisk (lots of google and fumbling around) so
> that I could access to my node via a local extension in the shack.
>
> In the process of switching from usbradio to simpleusb my edited
> extensions file was overwritten.  (the custom stuff is now in
> custom/extensions.conf and I have backup copies !)
>
> This dial plan results in a warning message from app_rpt:
> We only accept links via IAX2, Echolink, TheLinkBox or local !!
>
> (context from custom/extensions.conf)
>
> [in-shack]
> exten => 6010,1,Dial(SIP/6010,60,rT)
> exten => 6020,1,Dial(SIP/6020,60,rT)
> exten => 6099,1,Goto(radio-secure,27739,1)
>
>
> How do I make extension 6099 'local' to app_rpt again?
>
> I can dial between the extensions but fail with
> reorder/fast busy on 6099..
>
> I know I HAD it working at 2 am the other night!
>
> Thanks in advance for any pointers on how to get this working again.
>
> Jimc -- W8NSA
>
> *standard installation from the Allstar download CD.
>
>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Mon Feb  9 04:43:29 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 23:43:29 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] strange courtesy tone (or I'm going insane)
Message-ID: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>

I've defined a local node (902) for testing my 902 MHz repeater.  It's on
PCIRADIO/1 and it's up and going on the test box.

When I link it over to my node 40821, (224.28) it works come up and the
repeater audio works as intended.
However when using the 40821 node (ie input on 222.68) it has a courtesy tone
added in only when the local node is linked.  This tone is 6 fast beeps at
1800 hz (give or take what audacity says).

I can't find it defined in my rpt.conf at all.  I've really run out of ideas
here, and think I might be going insane. 

I have audio of it up here http://keekles.org/~w9cr/40821%20wierd%20tone.wav

Anyone have any ideas?

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net



From mike at midnighteng.com  Mon Feb  9 05:06:04 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 21:06:04 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] strange courtesy tone (or I'm going insane)
In-Reply-To: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>
References: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <4cb50483f19533aceeabfb8d4fcc7f9c.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


Bryan,

Not Defined?
I would put a definition in there as it is probably using a default since
nothing has been defined.(guessing from what you said). I have never not
defined them to know for sure.

Just copy the [telemetry] section from one of your other nodes and use it.

...mike/kb8jnm


> I've defined a local node (902) for testing my 902 MHz repeater.  It's on
> PCIRADIO/1 and it's up and going on the test box.
>
> When I link it over to my node 40821, (224.28) it works come up and the
> repeater audio works as intended.
> However when using the 40821 node (ie input on 222.68) it has a courtesy
> tone
> added in only when the local node is linked.  This tone is 6 fast beeps at
> 1800 hz (give or take what audacity says).
>
> I can't find it defined in my rpt.conf at all.  I've really run out of
> ideas
> here, and think I might be going insane.
>
> I have audio of it up here
> http://keekles.org/~w9cr/40821%20wierd%20tone.wav
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
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> 727-214-2508 - Fax
> http://bryanfields.net
>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Mon Feb  9 05:19:53 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:19:53 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] strange courtesy tone (or I'm going insane)
In-Reply-To: <WM!9801be0e1d7365ebdb3d5f9f1d32675fe1b713329af378278ff191919bb43d34946c550d7d436c937a821110103ebe36!@asav-1.01.com>
References: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>
	<4cb50483f19533aceeabfb8d4fcc7f9c.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
	<WM!9801be0e1d7365ebdb3d5f9f1d32675fe1b713329af378278ff191919bb43d34946c550d7d436c937a821110103ebe36!@asav-1.01.com>
Message-ID: <54D84379.60708@bryanfields.net>

On 2/9/15, 12:06 AM, mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
> Bryan,
> 
> Not Defined?
> I would put a definition in there as it is probably using a default since
> nothing has been defined.(guessing from what you said). I have never not
> defined them to know for sure.
> 
> Just copy the [telemetry] section from one of your other nodes and use it.


I'm using a common [telemetry] section.  I've grep'd out the comments in my
rpt.conf below.  I'm stumped :)

> root at asterisk:/etc/asterisk# grep "^[^#;]" rpt.conf 
> [40821]                                 ; Change this to your assigned node number 
> rxchannel = Voter/1234                  ; Rx audio/signalling channel
> erxgain=-9                              ; Echolink receive gain adjustment
> etxgain=-3                              ; Echolink transmit gain adjustment
> functions=functions                     ; Repeater Function Table
> phone_functions=functions               ; Repeater Function Table
> link_functions=functions                ; Link Function Table
> telemetry=telemetry                     ; Telemetry descriptions
> wait_times=wait-times                   ; Wait times
> macro=macro
> startup_macro=*95329094
> context =  radio                        ; dialing context for phone
> callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> ; callerid for phone calls
> idrecording = |iW9CR                    ; id recording or morse string
> accountcode=RADIO                       ; account code (optional)
> hangtime=3000                           ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) (optional)
> althangtime=6000                        ; longer squelch tail
> totime=180000                           ; transmit time-out time (in ms) (optional)
> idtime=540000                           ; id interval time (in ms) (optional)
> politeid=30000                          ; time in milliseconds before ID timer
> idtalkover=none                         ; Talkover ID (optional) default is none
> unlinkedct=ct4                          ; unlinked courtesy tone (optional) default is none
> remotect=ct3                            ; remote linked courtesy tone (indicates a remote is in the list of links)
> linkunkeyct=ct8                         ; sent when a transmission received over the link unkeys
> nolocallinkct=0                 ; Send unlinkedct instead if another local node is connected to this node (hosted on the same PC).
> eannmode=2                              ; Default: 1 = Say only node number on echolink connects
> beaconing=1                             ; Send ID regardless of repeater activity (Required in the UK, but probably illegal in the US)
> statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null                       
> statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates 
> [902]
> rxchannel = Zap/1                  ; Rx audio/signalling channel
> erxgain=-9                              ; Echolink receive gain adjustment
> etxgain=-3                              ; Echolink transmit gain adjustment
> duplex=2
> functions=functions                     ; Repeater Function Table
> phone_functions=functions               ; Repeater Function Table
> link_functions=functions                ; Link Function Table
> telemetry=telemetry                     ; Telemetry descriptions
> wait_times=wait-times                   ; Wait times
> macro=macro
> context =  radio                        ; dialing context for phone
> callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> ; callerid for phone calls
> idrecording = |iW9CR                    ; id recording or morse string
> accountcode=RADIO                       ; account code (optional)
> hangtime=3000                           ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) (optional)
> althangtime=6000                        ; longer squelch tail
> totime=180000                           ; transmit time-out time (in ms) (optional)
> idtime=540000                           ; id interval time (in ms) (optional)
> politeid=30000                          ; time in milliseconds before ID timer
> idtalkover=none                         ; Talkover ID (optional) default is none
> unlinkedct=ct4                          ; unlinked courtesy tone (optional) default is none
> remotect=ct3                            ; remote linked courtesy tone (indicates a remote is in the list of links)
> linkunkeyct=ct8                         ; sent when a transmission received over the link unkeys
> nolocallinkct=1                        ; Send unlinkedct instead if another local node is connected to this node (hosted on the same PC).
> eannmode=2                              ; Default: 1 = Say only node number on echolink connects
> beaconing=1                             ; Send ID regardless of repeater activity (Required in the UK, but probably illegal in the US)
> statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null
> statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates 
> [functions]
> 1=ilink,1
> 2=ilink,2
> 3=ilink,3
> 4=ilink,4
> 5=macro,1
> 70=ilink,5
> 71=ilink,6   ; disconnect all links
> 72=ilink,7   ; Last Node to Key Up 
> 73=ilink,15
> 74=ilink,16
> 75=ilink,8
> 80=status,1
> 81=status,2
> 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000  ; Autopatch up
> 0=autopatchdn                           ; Autopatch down
> 989=cop,4
> 980=status,3
> 99=cop,6
> 951=ilink,11 ; Permanent link disconnect
> 952=ilink,12 ; Permanent link receive
> 953=ilink,13 ; Permanent link transceive
> [telemetry]
> ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048)
> ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048)  
> ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) 
> ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048)
> ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048)
> ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048)
> ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048)
> ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048)
> remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); 
> remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) 
> cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048)
> functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048)
> patchup=rpt/callproceeding
> patchdown=rpt/callterminated
> eannmode=2 ; announce callsign only 
> [morse]
> speed=20                        ; Approximate speed in WPM
> frequency=300                           ; Morse Telemetry Frequency
> amplitude=4096                          ; Morse Telemetry Amplitude
> idfrequency=660                 ; Morse ID Frequency
> idamplitude=1024                        ; Morse ID Amplitude
> [wait-times]                                                                                                 
> telemwait=2000                          ; Time to wait before sending most telemetry
> idwait=500                              ; Time to wait before starting ID
> unkeywait=2000                          ; Time to wait after unkey before sending CT's and link telemetry
> calltermwait=2000                       ; Time to wait before announcing "call terminated"
> [nodes]
> 40821 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40821,NONE      ; This must be changed to your node number
> 902 = radio at 127.0.0.1/902,NONE
> [memory]
> [macro]


-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net


From mike at midnighteng.com  Mon Feb  9 05:42:49 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 21:42:49 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] local rpt access via local extension?
Message-ID: <12145ca4f9d4a4d0a45762fad10b5148.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


Jim,

In asterisk, there are normally many ways to achieve the same thing.
Don't make it more complicated if there is no need.

Put your phone extensions in the radio control section.
If you keep all the local extensions 4 digit and start with the same
number, you can do something like this example...

exten => 6XXX,1,Dial(sip/${EXTEN},20)   ;dial ext on this box
exten => 6XXX,2,VoiceMail(${EXTEN})     ;voicemail on noanswer

That would be a statement that would cover all 4 digit extensions starting
with a 6. my example has a voice-mail rollover. This way you do not need
to define every extension.

>From any extension you can dial the node number for the node you want to
connect to.

But to dial a phone extension from the repeater phone patch, you will need
a similar/same line in the [radio] context.

...mike/kb8jnm


> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the quick answer..
>
> I have added extensions to the system using a Cisco SPA8000
> ATA.  When I first configured the ATA and sip.conf I put the two
> in-shack extensions into the radio-secure context as that seemed
> logical.. and that did in fact work.  I could call the node 27739
> and hit the USB interface.
>
> Even that doesn't work now.
>
> I've also tried this..
>
> [in-shack]
> include => radio-secure
> exten => 6010,1,Dial(SIP/6010,60,rT)
> exten => 6020,1,Dial(SIP/6020,60,rT)
>
> The radio-secure context is:
>
> [radio-secure]
> exten => 27739,1,rpt,27739
>
>
> Thinking I could dial the 27739 extension from the in-shack contex.. not
> working...
>
>
> 73,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>




From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Mon Feb  9 06:39:27 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:39:27 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] strange courtesy tone (or I'm going insane)
In-Reply-To: <WM!efd158c85e3b73f2dc4150e2f5fde9d8d3685c1daf5eefe4591874ccabfbcaa5494fb81406aa7530815daaeb627e402b!@asav-3.01.com>
References: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>
	<4cb50483f19533aceeabfb8d4fcc7f9c.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
	<WM!9801be0e1d7365ebdb3d5f9f1d32675fe1b713329af378278ff191919bb43d34946c550d7d436c937a821110103ebe36!@asav-1.01.com>
	<54D84379.60708@bryanfields.net>
	<c7491579356b7e661e51473e3cb7d0e7.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
	<WM!efd158c85e3b73f2dc4150e2f5fde9d8d3685c1daf5eefe4591874ccabfbcaa5494fb81406aa7530815daaeb627e402b!@asav-3.01.com>
Message-ID: <54D8561F.20701@bryanfields.net>

On 2/9/15, 1:35 AM, mike at midnighteng.com wrote:
> Guessing as you are...
> 
> I'm a bit tired and need to hit the hay for now.
> Will help tomorrow if still a problem you have not solved.
> 
> It is a bit baffling but it must be just something being overlooked.

I hope so, but I'm scratching my head at this point.

> It appears to be two different tone sets. Look for something that matches
> after the 6 beeps and see if it matches a CT. The 6 beeps are not CT's and
> must be some error or triggered by some other event. Have you looked in
> the logs ?

I've looked at the logs and run it in debug too.  No obvious errors (or any
for that matter).

Guess I could run it under GDB next....


73's
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
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From torben at klimt-online.com  Mon Feb  9 14:06:43 2015
From: torben at klimt-online.com (Torben Klimt)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 14:06:43 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Incoming Echolink connection doesn`t work
Message-ID: <1423490802518.90696@klimt-online.com>



 hi all,
from one day to another it is not possible to connect my node by echolink.
outgoing connectens work well but if i want to connect from external i get following message
any ideas ?


 -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-28", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-28'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-213277950'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-29", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-29'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1746953366'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-30", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-30'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1705317437'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-31", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-31'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1525394495'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-32", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-32'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1076156582'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-33", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-33'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-82187291'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-34", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-34'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-76728912'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-35", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-35'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-62045735'

greetings



From horsezip at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  9 14:41:18 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:41:18 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] yet mire problemw
Message-ID: <3qghdapv3ogudh4ic39k1r9e53ef0kfqm2@4ax.com>

my server is stuck in pst i change it but i do a shutdown -r it goes
back and i try 2 change the host of the box but that also egos back on
reboot someone please help me i have googleed till my blue lol


From lorentedford at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 14:52:57 2015
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 08:52:57 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] yet mire problemw
In-Reply-To: <3qghdapv3ogudh4ic39k1r9e53ef0kfqm2@4ax.com>
References: <3qghdapv3ogudh4ic39k1r9e53ef0kfqm2@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <CAK=eTyhAFV1O0aabLdzWy7Tgn1c5Gm0jpg=p+SszEwRV6YXLjA@mail.gmail.com>

Red Hat distros

If you're using a distribution such as Red Hat then your approach of
copying the file would be mostly acceptable.

$ ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/
Africa/      CET          Etc/         Hongkong     Kwajalein
Pacific/     ROK          zone.tab
America/     Chile/       Europe/      HST          Libya
Poland       Singapore    Zulu
Antarctica/  CST6CDT      GB           Iceland      MET
Portugal     Turkey
Arctic/      Cuba         GB-Eire      Indian/      Mexico/
posix/       UCT
Asia/        EET          GMT          Iran         MST
posixrules   Universal
Atlantic/    Egypt        GMT0         iso3166.tab  MST7MDT      PRC
       US/
Australia/   Eire         GMT-0        Israel       Navajo
PST8PDT      UTC
Brazil/      EST          GMT+0        Jamaica      NZ
right/       WET
Canada/      EST5EDT      Greenwich    Japan        NZ-CHAT      ROC
       W-SU

I would recommend linking to it rather than copying however.

$ sudo unlink /etc/localtime
$ sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT+6 /etc/localtime

Now date shows the different timezone:

$ date -u
Thu Jan 23 05:40:31 UTC 2014

$ date
Wed Jan 22 23:40:38 GMT+6 2014


Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
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Email: lorentedford at live.com
Email: lorentedford at aol.com
Email: LorenCS at Ltcraft.net
Email: lorentedford at yahoo.com
Email: loren at lorentedford.com <loren at lorentedford.com>
Email: loren at richlandcountycomputers.com
Email: loren at newwavesucks.com
Phone:
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http://www.richlandcountycomputers.com
http://kc9zhv.lorentedford.com
http://newwavesucks.com

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:41 AM, jimmy keffer <horsezip at earthlink.net> wrote:

> my server is stuck in pst i change it but i do a shutdown -r it goes
> back and i try 2 change the host of the box but that also egos back on
> reboot someone please help me i have googleed till my blue lol
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From horsezip at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  9 15:03:14 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:03:14 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] yet mire problemw
In-Reply-To: <CAK=eTyhAFV1O0aabLdzWy7Tgn1c5Gm0jpg=p+SszEwRV6YXLjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3qghdapv3ogudh4ic39k1r9e53ef0kfqm2@4ax.com>
	<CAK=eTyhAFV1O0aabLdzWy7Tgn1c5Gm0jpg=p+SszEwRV6YXLjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <nnihda9o3b2hn9jrrtron4ak9h2184e10h@4ax.com>

ttyed that many times i will guve u ssh access 2 the box 2 fix u don't
mind it's centos 5 aacid box On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 08:52:57 -0600, you
wrote:

>Red Hat distros
>
>If you're using a distribution such as Red Hat then your approach of
>copying the file would be mostly acceptable.
>
>$ ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/
>Africa/      CET          Etc/         Hongkong     Kwajalein
>Pacific/     ROK          zone.tab
>America/     Chile/       Europe/      HST          Libya
>Poland       Singapore    Zulu
>Antarctica/  CST6CDT      GB           Iceland      MET
>Portugal     Turkey
>Arctic/      Cuba         GB-Eire      Indian/      Mexico/
>posix/       UCT
>Asia/        EET          GMT          Iran         MST
>posixrules   Universal
>Atlantic/    Egypt        GMT0         iso3166.tab  MST7MDT      PRC
>       US/
>Australia/   Eire         GMT-0        Israel       Navajo
>PST8PDT      UTC
>Brazil/      EST          GMT+0        Jamaica      NZ
>right/       WET
>Canada/      EST5EDT      Greenwich    Japan        NZ-CHAT      ROC
>       W-SU
>
>I would recommend linking to it rather than copying however.
>
>$ sudo unlink /etc/localtime
>$ sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT+6 /etc/localtime
>
>Now date shows the different timezone:
>
>$ date -u
>Thu Jan 23 05:40:31 UTC 2014
>
>$ date
>Wed Jan 22 23:40:38 GMT+6 2014
>
>
>Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
>Email: lorentedford at live.com
>Email: lorentedford at aol.com
>Email: LorenCS at Ltcraft.net
>Email: lorentedford at yahoo.com
>Email: loren at lorentedford.com <loren at lorentedford.com>
>Email: loren at richlandcountycomputers.com
>Email: loren at newwavesucks.com
>Phone:
>http://www.lorentedford.com
>http://www.Ltcraft.net <http://www.ltcraft.net/>
>http://www.richlandcountycomputers.com
>http://kc9zhv.lorentedford.com
>http://newwavesucks.com
>
>On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:41 AM, jimmy keffer <horsezip at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> my server is stuck in pst i change it but i do a shutdown -r it goes
>> back and i try 2 change the host of the box but that also egos back on
>> reboot someone please help me i have googleed till my blue lol
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From mike.lussier at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 17:11:04 2015
From: mike.lussier at gmail.com (Mike Lussier)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:11:04 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
Message-ID: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>

Good afternoon all,
I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the
past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and
not connected .

Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I
went to bed last night I tried it from the other side.


Mike AE4ML

-- 

*"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is
guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American
precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald
Regan*
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From mike at midnighteng.com  Mon Feb  9 17:41:55 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:41:55 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6d12559229705866b40dff04385aa0f7.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


Need more info...

What are you trying to connect to ?

a node behind your nat but on a different server?
a node on the same server?
a external node outside of your nat?

You probably need to define more info for other nodes behind your nat but
on other servers.
Specifying the ip & port used in rpt.conf of the other servers "if" that
is the case.

29283 = radio at 127.0.0.1/29283,NONE
29999 = radio at 192.168.1.223:4570/29999,NONE ;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

The line above shows the ip and port used of the other server inside of
nat. the top line is a node local to the box/server.

You would need to do this in each box behind your nat with proper ip/port
to connect between them.

...mike/kb8jnm


> Good afternoon all,
> I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the
> past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and
> not connected .
>
> Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I
> went to bed last night I tried it from the other side.
>
>
> Mike AE4ML
>
> --
>
> *"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is
> guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American
> precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald
> Regan*
> _______________________________________________
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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Mon Feb  9 18:05:00 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:05:00 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9BE43564-69D6-407F-AE89-7292CD34AA9F@mac.com>

I?m assuming your nodes are on separate servers. 

Some routers don?t do what is called hairpin NAT. That is connecting from an address on your NATed to the public IP address of a service on the same NATed network won?t work.

Or the problem could be that your servers are set to the same port and/or the router port forwarding is not correct.

In any case nodes on the same NATed network should have the IP address of the other nodes listed in the [nodes] stanza of rpt.conf. The port is needed if not default (4569). 


[nodes]
; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes,
; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
; for your local nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here.
2510 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4570/2510,NONE                    ; Local node
2502 = radio at 192.168.1.12:4571/2502,NONE		 ; other node

--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Mike Lussier <mike.lussier at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon all, 
> I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and not connected . 
> 
> Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I went to bed last night I tried it from the other side. 
> 
> 
> Mike AE4ML
> 
> -- 
> "We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald Regan
> 
> 
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From doug at crompton.com  Mon Feb  9 18:13:02 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:13:02 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W270CBA6C4EF6E6D39B9D24BA270@phx.gbl>

Mike,

 It was not clear from your statements if you were ever able to connect them or if the script was the problem. If its two (or more) nodes on the same LAN on different computers (servers) they would need routing information in the nodes section of rpt.conf so they connect locally and do not try and use the public IP. You would need to do this on both servers. They should also be on different ports setup at allstarlink.org

[nodes]
; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes,
; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
; for your local nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here.

40000 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40000,NONE
40001 = radio at 192.168.1.100:4568,NONE    <<<< IP and port of other local server
On the other server it would be just reversed with the other nodes port. 4569 is default but shown here for clarity.

40001 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40000,NONE
40000 = radio at 192.168.1.100:4569,NONE    <<<< IP and port of other local server

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:11:04 -0500
From: mike.lussier at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work

Good afternoon all, 
I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and not connected . 

Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I went to bed last night I tried it from the other side. 


Mike AE4ML
-- 
"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald Regan





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From mike.lussier at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 18:21:48 2015
From: mike.lussier at gmail.com (Mike Lussier)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:21:48 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <9BE43564-69D6-407F-AE89-7292CD34AA9F@mac.com>
References: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<9BE43564-69D6-407F-AE89-7292CD34AA9F@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ_8ST=FeTQEyD75wDq-zRSxi1JujMRxZLk_8kB4=KHii_xfiA@mail.gmail.com>

I figured with them on the same subnet they would talk directly to each
other and there was no need to go out to the internet to make their
connection.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com> wrote:

> I?m assuming your nodes are on separate servers.
>
> Some routers don?t do what is called hairpin NAT. That is connecting from
> an address on your NATed to the public IP address of a service on the same
> NATed network won?t work.
>
> Or the problem could be that your servers are set to the same port and/or
> the router port forwarding is not correct.
>
> In any case nodes on the same NATed network should have the IP address of
> the other nodes listed in the [nodes] stanza of rpt.conf. The port is
> needed if not default (4569).
>
>
> [nodes]
> ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes,
> ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
> ; for your local nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here.
> 2510 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4570/2510,NONE                    ; Local node
> 2502 = radio at 192.168.1.12:4571/2502,NONE  ; other node
>
> --
> Tim
> :wq
>
> On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Mike Lussier <mike.lussier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon all,
> I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the
> past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and
> not connected .
>
> Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I
> went to bed last night I tried it from the other side.
>
>
> Mike AE4ML
>
> --
>
> *"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is
> guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American
> precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald
> Regan*
>
>  _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American
precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald
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From doug at crompton.com  Mon Feb  9 18:24:41 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:24:41 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] FW: 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W270CBA6C4EF6E6D39B9D24BA270@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W270CBA6C4EF6E6D39B9D24BA270@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W7B6DFA5DF79FCA4FB8917BA270@phx.gbl>

Corrected... the IPs and /nodes were not correct in the previous example...

40000 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40000,NONE
40001 = radio at 192.168.1.100:4568/40001,NONE    <<<< IP and port of other local server
On the other server it would be just reversed with the other nodes port. 4569 is default but shown here for clarity.

40001 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40001,NONE
40000 = radio at 192.168.1.101:4569/40000,NONE    <<<< IP and port of other local server

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:11:04 -0500
From: mike.lussier at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work

Good afternoon all, 
I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and not connected . 

Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I went to bed last night I tried it from the other side. 


Mike AE4ML
-- 
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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Mon Feb  9 18:35:45 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:35:45 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
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Nodes will attempt to connect to the public IP unless you tell them not to with the [nodes] stanza.

If you know how a hosts file works it the same sort of thing: App_rpt first looks for the node?s IP address in the [nodes] stanza. If not found it looks in the rpt_extnodes file. Being that you didn?t have the node listed in your [nodes] stanza it uses rpt_extnodes and hence the public IP. 
--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Mike Lussier <mike.lussier at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I figured with them on the same subnet they would talk directly to each other and there was no need to go out to the internet to make their connection. 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com <mailto:tim.sawyer at mac.com>> wrote:
> I?m assuming your nodes are on separate servers. 
> 
> Some routers don?t do what is called hairpin NAT. That is connecting from an address on your NATed to the public IP address of a service on the same NATed network won?t work.
> 
> Or the problem could be that your servers are set to the same port and/or the router port forwarding is not correct.
> 
> In any case nodes on the same NATed network should have the IP address of the other nodes listed in the [nodes] stanza of rpt.conf. The port is needed if not default (4569). 
> 
> 
> [nodes]
> ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes,
> ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
> ; for your local nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here.
> 2510 = radio at 127.0.0.1 <mailto:radio at 127.0.0.1>:4570/2510,NONE                    ; Local node
> 2502 = radio at 192.168.1.12 <mailto:radio at 192.168.1.12>:4571/2502,NONE		 ; other node
> 
> --
> Tim
> :wq
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Mike Lussier <mike.lussier at gmail.com <mailto:mike.lussier at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good afternoon all, 
>> I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and not connected . 
>> 
>> Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I went to bed last night I tried it from the other side. 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike AE4ML
>> 
>> -- 
>> "We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald Regan
>> 
>> 
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From mike.lussier at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 18:39:44 2015
From: mike.lussier at gmail.com (Mike Lussier)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:39:44 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem
Message-ID: <CAJ_8STmn-3THL1manOGn=cUnQ30WWTB+Tu+EtMAa7RkKBx=YuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I'm at work I don't have access to the devices from where I'm at. You
have given me a few areas to go look.

Thank you

Mike

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From mike.lussier at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 18:41:56 2015
From: mike.lussier at gmail.com (Mike Lussier)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 13:41:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
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Thanks Tim,

I'm certain that you and Doug nailed it. I will check that this evening.

Thank you


On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com> wrote:

> Nodes will attempt to connect to the public IP unless you tell them not to
> with the [nodes] stanza.
>
> If you know how a hosts file works it the same sort of thing: App_rpt
> first looks for the node?s IP address in the [nodes] stanza. If not found
> it looks in the rpt_extnodes file. Being that you didn?t have the node
> listed in your [nodes] stanza it uses rpt_extnodes and hence the public IP.
> --
> Tim
> :wq
>
> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Mike Lussier <mike.lussier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I figured with them on the same subnet they would talk directly to each
> other and there was no need to go out to the internet to make their
> connection.
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> I?m assuming your nodes are on separate servers.
>>
>> Some routers don?t do what is called hairpin NAT. That is connecting from
>> an address on your NATed to the public IP address of a service on the same
>> NATed network won?t work.
>>
>> Or the problem could be that your servers are set to the same port and/or
>> the router port forwarding is not correct.
>>
>> In any case nodes on the same NATed network should have the IP address of
>> the other nodes listed in the [nodes] stanza of rpt.conf. The port is
>> needed if not default (4569).
>>
>>
>> [nodes]
>> ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes,
>> ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
>> ; for your local nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here.
>> 2510 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4570/2510,NONE                    ; Local node
>> 2502 = radio at 192.168.1.12:4571/2502,NONE  ; other node
>>
>> --
>> Tim
>> :wq
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Mike Lussier <mike.lussier at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good afternoon all,
>> I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the
>> past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and
>> not connected .
>>
>> Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before
>> I went to bed last night I tried it from the other side.
>>
>>
>> Mike AE4ML
>>
>> --
>>
>> *"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is
>> guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American
>> precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald
>> Regan*
>>
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>
>
> --
>
> *"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is
> guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American
> precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald
> Regan*
>
>
>


-- 

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From doug at crompton.com  Mon Feb  9 19:31:58 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 14:31:58 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Multiple servers and local connections
Message-ID: <BLU172-W5967819C6C0EBD223EBF7BA270@phx.gbl>

I decided to write something up on this since so many more people are putting multiple servers on LAN's and I get these questions all the time. This is a first cut so let me know if anything needs correction or clarification. I will be putting it out as a howto on the hamvoip site.


Considerations when using more than one Allstar server on a LAN

When you have more than one server on the same private LAN and you want to connect them locally or connect into them from the outside there are some special considerations. Allstar uses a database that is constantly updated with the public IP addresses and ports of all other active nodes on the network including your own. So if you have two (or more) local nodes on different computers and they try to connect to each other they will not be able to. Most routers do not know how to handle their own public IP from within the LAN, so you have to enter the local IP address and port information in the nodes section of each servers rpt.conf file. Here is an example of how to do it:

First you need to go to allstarlink.org and put each server on a different port. The default iax port is 4569 and when you define a server that is what is assigned. If you have two servers you need to pick one and change the port, say to 4568. You do this in the network tab of the server configuration at allstarlink.org. Only change the port, do not change or add any IP addresses. If you have more than two servers just keep assigning new port numbers for each.

Locally the servers port is assigned in /etc/asterisk/iax.conf -

[general]
bindport=4569     <<<<  change this to the same port that you assigned for this server at allstarlink.org

Do this for each server.

Then you need to add entries in /etc/asterisk/rpt.conf. Here is an example for two servers:

If you had two nodes, each on a different server and server1 with node 40000 had an IP address of 192.168.1.101 and port of 4569 and server2 with node 40001 had an IP address of 192.168.0.100 with a port of 4568 then you would put the following in nodes section of your rpt.conf file:  

[nodes]
; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes,
; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
; for your local nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here.

40000 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40000,NONE
40001 = radio at 192.168.1.100:4568/40001,NONE    <<<< IP and port of other local server

On the other server it would be just reversed with the other nodes IP address and port. 4569 is default and would not need to be entered but shown here for clarity.

[nodes]
; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes,
; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
; for your local nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here.

40001 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40001,NONE
40000 = radio at 192.168.1.101:4569/40000,NONE    <<<< IP and port of other local server

In addition to doing this if you want outside connectibility to your nodes you need to open ports in your router. In this example you would add port 4569 udp to IP address 192.168.0.101 and another entry for port 4568 udp to IP address 192.168.0.100

Also if you want outside ssh access there are two things you can do. If you want direct public ssh access to both servers then you would need to change one servers ssh port since they would both be on port 222. You do this in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the BBB or in /etc/sshd_config on Centos. Change the port number and remember what it is as you will have to use this port to log into this server in the future. One could stay at 222 and the other might be 223. You would then add both entries to your routers port forwarding. If server1 was port 222 and server2 was 223 then add port 222 tcp 192.168.0.101 and port 223 tcp 192.168.0.100 entries to your router.

Another option would be to leave them both at port 222 and then you can log into which ever one is port forwarded. You would only forward one server in your router. Lets say port 222 was routed to 192.168.0.101, server1. When you ssh from the outside to your public IP address at port 222 it would go to that server. But you really want to get to server2. So once you log into server1 you simply type -  ssh root at 192.168.0.100 -p 222  - Now you get the server2 login, enter your password and you are connected there.

If you only want LAN ssh access not public then you can just connect by local IP address. No port change and no router entries are necessary. 

If you are using lsnodes or Allmon and you want public access to multiple servers behind a LAN you will need to change the web server ports on the 2nd and subsequent servers and forward them appropriately in your router. The default is port 80 but this could be changed to some more obscure series of ports of your choosing. Again if you just want local access no changes are necessary, just use the servers local IP address.

Always restart Asterisk whenever you make these changes.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
 		 	   		  
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From N1XBM at amsat.org  Mon Feb  9 21:22:43 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:22:43 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
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I know this may be kinda off topic. It really grinds my gears when you get
people who log into my node throw their call and disconnect less than a
minute later. I run zello on my node which records all traffic. It is also
nice because I can monitor my nodes 24/7 with ease.

How the hell can I engage someone in a QSO if I can't answer them in less
than a minute? It's funny the few people I have caught we had some nice
QSOs. One of them I've remanded friends with.

It just makes me laugh people must think my nodes are dead but they get
fair use and I guess I need to train to answer a user in less than a minute.
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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 22:08:43 2015
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 15:08:43 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
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Maybe you should create an announcement on connect, which plays an audio
file just to the node that connected to politely ask them to stay for
longer than a minute. I wonder if that is possible to send audio to
specific nodes? In my opinion, a minute or two is good enough. I just get
ticked off when someone connects and then disconnects so fast, in matter of
seconds. they don't even throw their ID out.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:

> I know this may be kinda off topic. It really grinds my gears when you get
> people who log into my node throw their call and disconnect less than a
> minute later. I run zello on my node which records all traffic. It is also
> nice because I can monitor my nodes 24/7 with ease.
>
> How the hell can I engage someone in a QSO if I can't answer them in less
> than a minute? It's funny the few people I have caught we had some nice
> QSOs. One of them I've remanded friends with.
>
> It just makes me laugh people must think my nodes are dead but they get
> fair use and I guess I need to train to answer a user in less than a minute.
>
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 22:21:43 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:21:43 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
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On 02/09/2015 04:08 PM, Skyler F wrote:
> Maybe you should create an announcement on connect, which plays an
> audio file just to the node that connected to politely ask them to
> stay for longer than a minute. I wonder if that is possible to send
> audio to specific nodes? In my opinion, a minute or two is good
> enough. I just get ticked off when someone connects and then
> disconnects so fast, in matter of seconds. they don't even throw their
> ID out.
>

I stopped a reply that I was making, along those same lines, but then I
stopped to think... if someone on a linked repeater system connects to a
node, then, in the nature of how allstar works, that audio played from
the node being connected to, would play throughout the linked repeater
system.  That'd probably confuse regular users of that system. 
Remember, after all, *we*, the guys and gals who do the configuration of
our nodes/repeaters, -are- (99% of the time) those responsible for our
systems. 

Having that kind of audio playing out, I wouldn't think, would most
probably not be a good idea.

Although, there's not much difference in operators of allstar and
echolink, if all they're going to be doing is connecting for a minute or
two, then disappearing with out waiting around for a response (if they
say anything at all), or a drive-by to see if anyone is talking, hearing
nothing, and disconnecting and moving to the next node.

This is how hams lost 11 meters, back in the late 40's.  People go and
listen, hear nothing, don't say anything, and then go away.  The band
was probably open more often than not, but if no one was talking while
someone was listening, then those listening would assume the band is dead.

Connect, wait to see if the system is busy or not, then (if not) make
some noise!  Wait around a bit!  Make some noise *again*!  THEN, move on.

It's exactly because of the drive-by's on Echolink (mostly) that I've
turned the telemetry "OFF" on my nodes.  If they don't say anything, I
don't even want to know they're there.  If they feel like the users of
my system are ignoring them, then it's their loss, by not keying up and
identifying their presence.

Your mileage may vary.

-Geoff/W5OMR



From n3xcc at repeater-builder.com  Mon Feb  9 22:23:05 2015
From: n3xcc at repeater-builder.com (Scott Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:23:05 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] XIPAR
In-Reply-To: <F7C655AB368A4A85AB6F62577C25EE51@PCdeclient>
References: <F7C655AB368A4A85AB6F62577C25EE51@PCdeclient>
Message-ID: <54D93349.8000002@repeater-builder.com>

I got a return phone call from Steve W9SH on this issue. As I suspected, the folks at ANL.gov 
removed their repository reflector. The XIPAR install script has been modified to point to the 
University of Georgia reflector. No new install disc is necessary, since the install disc pulls an 
installation script from the XIPAR server.

Hope this helps,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

On 2/7/2015 9:35 PM, Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ wrote:
> Hello to you all,
>
> I want to install a Xipar on a computer, 3 times and I still can have an error message
> "Unable to retrive http://mirroir.anl.gov/pub/centros/6/os/i386/images/install. img "
> I even burn another cd d`installation
>
> I think it's the XIPAR server, when do you think?
>
> Thank you and Happy Day
>
> 73`s
> Luc
> VE2LUQ
>
>
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From doug at crompton.com  Mon Feb  9 22:37:26 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 17:37:26 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>

Putting a connect message in  /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames/ would be an option. If you are using the BBB the tts_audio.sh script would create the audio file for you from a text file.

http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/142

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:22:43 -0500
From: N1XBM at amsat.org
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run

I know this may be kinda off topic. It really grinds my gears when you get people who log into my node throw their call and disconnect less than a minute later. I run zello on my node which records all traffic. It is also nice because I can monitor my nodes 24/7 with ease.
How the hell can I engage someone in a QSO if I can't answer them in less than a minute? It's funny the few people I have caught we had some nice QSOs. One of them I've remanded friends with.
It just makes me laugh people must think my nodes are dead but they get fair use and I guess I need to train to answer a user in less than a minute.

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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 22:41:35 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:41:35 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>


On 02/09/2015 04:37 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> Putting a connect message in  /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames/
> would be an option. If you are using the BBB the tts_audio.sh script
> would create the audio file for you from a text file.

It's a bad idea.

See my previous message on this subject.


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From doug at crompton.com  Mon Feb  9 23:33:48 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 18:33:48 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>,
	,
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	,
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>,
	,
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>,
	<54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>

I am not sure what the difference would be. You are going to get the default connect message anyhow so if you add your words and where you are really connected to it would make more sense. Instead of the brain dead -

node xxxxx connected to xxxxx in Alison's voice you could have a nice google voice saying -

Welcome to the the Silicon Valley ARC Allstar node. Please stay connected a few minutes for any calls.

or whatever you wanted to say. And in actuality the slowww Alison voice which probably take as long to speak as what I wrote above in the google voice.

Not all node groups have repeaters connected.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:41:35 -0600
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run


  
    
  
  
    

    On 02/09/2015 04:37 PM, Doug Crompton
      wrote:

    
    
      
      Putting a connect message in 
          /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames/ would be an option. If
          you are using the BBB the tts_audio.sh script would create the
          audio file for you from a text file.

      
    
    

    It's a bad idea.

    

    See my previous message on this subject.

    

    

  


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From N1XBM at amsat.org  Mon Feb  9 23:49:09 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 18:49:09 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>
	<54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEbLKOBO8Od55s-KnxPXAcKv8+aB_s48aL-i2iut76rj7g@mail.gmail.com>

This thread has proved useful one of my punch list items is to create a
custom message for our little group.  Looks like the BBB is pretty straight
forward. My Cent OS box might take some more research on my end.

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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Tue Feb 10 00:34:28 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:34:28 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>
	<54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6A9C64EB-616F-49CC-BE4D-5B194CF9A818@mac.com>

Nodenames on a local node won?t be heard on the connecting node. 

But it could be done with a connect script:
connpgm=welcome.sh             ; Default: Disabled. Execute a program you specify on connect.
                                        ; passes 2 command line arguments to your program:
                                        ; 1. node number in this stanza (us)
                                        ; 2. node number being connected to us (them)

welcome.sh
#! /bin/bash
asterisk -rx ?rpt playback $1 <sound_file_base_name>"

--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 9, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
> 
> I am not sure what the difference would be. You are going to get the default connect message anyhow so if you add your words and where you are really connected to it would make more sense. Instead of the brain dead -
> 
> node xxxxx connected to xxxxx in Alison's voice you could have a nice google voice saying -
> 
> Welcome to the the Silicon Valley ARC Allstar node. Please stay connected a few minutes for any calls.
> 
> or whatever you wanted to say. And in actuality the slowww Alison voice which probably take as long to speak as what I wrote above in the google voice.
> 
> Not all node groups have repeaters connected.
> 
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:41:35 -0600
> From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com <mailto:ars.w5omr at gmail.com>
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
> 
> 
> On 02/09/2015 04:37 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> Putting a connect message in  /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames/ would be an option. If you are using the BBB the tts_audio.sh script would create the audio file for you from a text file.
> 
> It's a bad idea.
> 
> See my previous message on this subject.
> 
> 
> 
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From mike.lussier at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 00:59:25 2015
From: mike.lussier at gmail.com (Mike Lussier)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 19:59:25 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W270CBA6C4EF6E6D39B9D24BA270@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W270CBA6C4EF6E6D39B9D24BA270@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAJ_8ST=EBMZJSrHQiARyMPLSGN_RtBF5KLa3ynu7ORHd_Z43vw@mail.gmail.com>

Problem resolved instantly as soon as I added the privates under the stanza
[node]

Thank you all

Mike AE4ML

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

> Mike,
>
>  It was not clear from your statements if you were ever able to connect
> them or if the script was the problem. If its two (or more) nodes on the
> same LAN on different computers (servers) they would need routing
> information in the nodes section of rpt.conf so they connect locally and do
> not try and use the public IP. You would need to do this on both servers.
> They should also be on different ports setup at allstarlink.org
>
> [nodes]
> ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes,
> ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
> ; for your local nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here.
>
> 40000 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40000,NONE
> 40001 = radio at 192.168.1.100:4568,NONE    <<<< IP and port of other local
> server
>
> On the other server it would be just reversed with the other nodes port.
> 4569 is default but shown here for clarity.
>
> 40001 = radio at 127.0.0.1/40000,NONE
> 40000 = radio at 192.168.1.100:4569,NONE    <<<< IP and port of other local
> server
>
>
>
> *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:11:04 -0500
> From: mike.lussier at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
>
>
> Good afternoon all,
> I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the
> past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and
> not connected .
>
> Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I
> went to bed last night I tried it from the other side.
>
>
> Mike AE4ML
>
> --
>
> *"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is
> guilty rather than the law breaker.It is time to restore the American
> precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald
> Regan*
>
>
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precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." ~ Ronald
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From doug at crompton.com  Tue Feb 10 02:09:00 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 21:09:00 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <6A9C64EB-616F-49CC-BE4D-5B194CF9A818@mac.com>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>
	<54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>,
	<6A9C64EB-616F-49CC-BE4D-5B194CF9A818@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W426094C4B9E73F8E30EAFABA240@phx.gbl>

Tim,

 Good to know. Maybe that should be added to the wiki page on the connect messages.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:34:28 -0800
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
To: doug at crompton.com

Nodenames on a local node won?t be heard on the connecting node. 
But it could be done with a connect script:connpgm=welcome.sh             ; Default: Disabled. Execute a program you specify on connect.                                        ; passes 2 command line arguments to your program:                                        ; 1. node number in this stanza (us)                                        ; 2. node number being connected to us (them)
welcome.sh#! /bin/bash
asterisk -rx ?rpt playback $1 <sound_file_base_name>"
--
Tim
:wq


On Feb 9, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:I am not sure what the difference would be. You are going to get the default connect message anyhow so if you add your words and where you are really connected to it would make more sense. Instead of the brain dead -

node xxxxx connected to xxxxx in Alison's voice you could have a nice google voice saying -

Welcome to the the Silicon Valley ARC Allstar node. Please stay connected a few minutes for any calls.

or whatever you wanted to say. And in actuality the slowww Alison voice which probably take as long to speak as what I wrote above in the google voice.

Not all node groups have repeaters connected.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:41:35 -0600
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run


On 02/09/2015 04:37 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
Putting a connect message in  /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames/ would be an option. If you are using the BBB the tts_audio.sh script would create the audio file for you from a text file.

It's a bad idea.

See my previous message on this subject.



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From ke2n at cs.com  Tue Feb 10 02:10:51 2015
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 21:10:51 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work
In-Reply-To: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ_8STmOFAYEQYqK0WLdMQX9BXcDiHQnvR5dOQ7vncXMwUyk+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <037b01d044d6$cb724c60$6256e520$@cs.com>

I can get ?connecting? if the target system is in a mode that does not accept new connections.  This has happened when I was running a bulletin where the script got interrupted and never put things back in the normal mode.

 

73

Ken

 

From: Mike Lussier [mailto:mike.lussier at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 12:11 PM
To: ALL STAR
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes setup to auto connect don't seem to work

 

Good afternoon all, 

I have two nodes on my internal network. both on the same subnet. for the past 16 hours if I look at either node that show state as "Connecting" and not connected . 

Any thoughts ? I tried it once from one node running a script and before I went to bed last night I tried it from the other side. 



Mike AE4ML



-- 

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From wb3awj at comcast.net  Tue Feb 10 03:15:10 2015
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:15:10 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W426094C4B9E73F8E30EAFABA240@phx.gbl>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>
	<54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>,
	<6A9C64EB-616F-49CC-BE4D-5B194CF9A818@mac.com>
	<BLU172-W426094C4B9E73F8E30EAFABA240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B91B073E-4615-4942-B758-4ECAE3780F88@comcast.net>

Or a cleaner way is to do something like this in extensions.conf.
Or wherever your repeater extension is defined.

[radio-gui]
exten => 28260,1,Playback(/path/to/file.ulaw)
exten => 28260,n,Wait(3)
exten => 28260,n,rpt,28260|P

>From the iaxRpt access definition on one of my nodes.

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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Tue Feb 10 03:47:26 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:47:26 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <B91B073E-4615-4942-B758-4ECAE3780F88@comcast.net>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>
	<54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>
	<6A9C64EB-616F-49CC-BE4D-5B194CF9A818@mac.com>
	<BLU172-W426094C4B9E73F8E30EAFABA240@phx.gbl>
	<B91B073E-4615-4942-B758-4ECAE3780F88@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0E3DB0D9-2D54-4F8C-8CFB-F1C7258148BF@mac.com>

Moved to the correct stanza and a minor tweak or two, that would work nicely. I like it. Much more the Asterisk way. 

--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 9, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Robert A. Poff <wb3awj at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Or a cleaner way is to do something like this in extensions.conf.
> Or wherever your repeater extension is defined.
> 
> [radio-gui]
> exten => 28260,1,Playback(/path/to/file.ulaw)
> exten => 28260,n,Wait(3)
> exten => 28260,n,rpt,28260|P
> 
> From the iaxRpt access definition on one of my nodes.
> 
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Feb 10 05:34:53 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:34:53 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] wtf? a ranger node? (was strange courtesy tone)
In-Reply-To: <WM!2e9276729cb05bccb74a3d38d2b1a3078d0f14edd0fb7c59de88e7adeff03f92bdbe186c4c427f172027adf67aeab45c!@asav-1.01.com>
References: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>	<4cb50483f19533aceeabfb8d4fcc7f9c.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>	<WM!9801be0e1d7365ebdb3d5f9f1d32675fe1b713329af378278ff191919bb43d34946c550d7d436c937a821110103ebe36!@asav-1.01.com>	<54D84379.60708@bryanfields.net>	<c7491579356b7e661e51473e3cb7d0e7.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>	<WM!efd158c85e3b73f2dc4150e2f5fde9d8d3685c1daf5eefe4591874ccabfbcaa5494fb81406aa7530815daaeb627e402b!@asav-3.01.com>
	<54D8561F.20701@bryanfields.net>
	<WM!2e9276729cb05bccb74a3d38d2b1a3078d0f14edd0fb7c59de88e7adeff03f92bdbe186c4c427f172027adf67aeab45c!@asav-1.01.com>
Message-ID: <54D9987D.8050205@bryanfields.net>

On 2/9/15, 1:39 AM, Bryan Fields wrote:
> I've looked at the logs and run it in debug too.  No obvious errors (or any
> for that matter).
> 
> Guess I could run it under GDB next....

I read the source to app_rpt.c and found that nodes starting with a 9 are
called a ranger node. No idea what this is.  Can anyone elaborate?

> #define ISRANGER(name) (name[0] == '9')

> /* if has a RANGER node connected to it, use special telemetry for RANGER mode */
>                 if (haslink)
>                 {
>                         res = telem_lookup(myrpt,mychannel, myrpt->name, "ranger");
>                         if(res)
>                                 ast_log(LOG_WARNING, "telem_lookup:ranger failed on %s\n", mychannel->name);
>                 }

looks like a ranger node is suppose to listen for a LiTZ and then connect to
another node.  When others are using that other node as along as the ranger
node is connected to it it will send the "ranger" CT which is what I'm hearing.

>  {"ranger","|t(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,150,0)"}

Good news is my 1800 hz decode from audacity was correct!

So I'm guessing this is meant to be some kinda half duplex node that links in
for emergency use.  Anyone have any idea on this?  I can't find anything on
the docs site about ranger nodes.

If I make the node in the 1902 the problem goes away, or I could define the
"ranger" CT to be nothing.

73's
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net


From doug at crompton.com  Tue Feb 10 06:55:21 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:55:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <0E3DB0D9-2D54-4F8C-8CFB-F1C7258148BF@mac.com>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>,
	<54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>,
	<6A9C64EB-616F-49CC-BE4D-5B194CF9A818@mac.com>,
	<BLU172-W426094C4B9E73F8E30EAFABA240@phx.gbl>,
	<B91B073E-4615-4942-B758-4ECAE3780F88@comcast.net>,
	<0E3DB0D9-2D54-4F8C-8CFB-F1C7258148BF@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W34A9341AAFB5AE9E8D4157BA240@phx.gbl>

I think they both have their place. The script gives you loads more flexibility. You can do more than just play a sound file.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 19:47:26 -0800
To: wb3awj at comcast.net
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run

Moved to the correct stanza and a minor tweak or two, that would work nicely. I like it. Much more the Asterisk way. 

--
Tim
:wq


On Feb 9, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Robert A. Poff <wb3awj at comcast.net> wrote:Or a cleaner way is to do something like this in extensions.conf.

Or wherever your repeater extension is defined.



[radio-gui]

exten => 28260,1,Playback(/path/to/file.ulaw)

exten => 28260,n,Wait(3)

exten => 28260,n,rpt,28260|P



>From the iaxRpt access definition on one of my nodes.



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From torben at klimt-online.com  Tue Feb 10 10:11:15 2015
From: torben at klimt-online.com (Torben Klimt)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:11:15 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Incoming Echolink connection doesn`t work
In-Reply-To: <1423490802518.90696@klimt-online.com>
References: <1423490802518.90696@klimt-online.com>
Message-ID: <1423563075665.21742@klimt-online.com>

Nobody any ideas ? :-(

greetings from germany torben dh6mbt

________________________________________
Von: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org <app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org> im Auftrag von Torben Klimt <torben at klimt-online.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 15:06
An: APP RPT
Betreff: [App_rpt-users] Incoming Echolink connection doesn`t work

 hi all,
from one day to another it is not possible to connect my node by echolink.
outgoing connectens work well but if i want to connect from external i get following message
any ideas ?


 -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-28", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-28'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-213277950'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-29", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-29'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1746953366'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-30", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-30'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1705317437'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-31", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-31'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1525394495'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-32", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-32'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1076156582'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-33", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-33'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-82187291'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-34", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-34'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-76728912'
-- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-35", "28535") in new stack
== Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-35'
-- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-62045735'

greetings

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From kk6ecm at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 11:11:04 2015
From: kk6ecm at gmail.com (kk6ecm)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:11:04 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Incoming Echolink connection doesn`t work
In-Reply-To: <1423563075665.21742@klimt-online.com>
References: <1423490802518.90696@klimt-online.com>
	<1423563075665.21742@klimt-online.com>
Message-ID: <ACDA4F0C-A63B-4C71-B802-67DCCADD9106@gmail.com>

I don't know, but it appears to me to be a network issue; going beyond TCP timeout to keepalive terminating. Could try using different Echolink servers. Perhaps there is one available to that is closer to you?

Thanks,
Bob
kk6ecm

Sent from iPad


> On Feb 10, 2015, at 2:11 AM, Torben Klimt <torben at klimt-online.com> wrote:
> 
> Nobody any ideas ? :-(
> 
> greetings from germany torben dh6mbt
> 
> ________________________________________
> Von: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org <app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org> im Auftrag von Torben Klimt <torben at klimt-online.com>
> Gesendet: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 15:06
> An: APP RPT
> Betreff: [App_rpt-users] Incoming Echolink connection doesn`t work
> 
> hi all,
> from one day to another it is not possible to connect my node by echolink.
> outgoing connectens work well but if i want to connect from external i get following message
> any ideas ?
> 
> 
> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-28", "28535") in new stack
> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-28'
> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-213277950'
> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-29", "28535") in new stack
> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-29'
> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1746953366'
> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-30", "28535") in new stack
> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-30'
> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1705317437'
> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-31", "28535") in new stack
> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-31'
> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1525394495'
> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-32", "28535") in new stack
> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-32'
> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1076156582'
> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-33", "28535") in new stack
> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-33'
> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-82187291'
> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-34", "28535") in new stack
> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-34'
> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-76728912'
> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-35", "28535") in new stack
> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-35'
> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-62045735'
> 
> greetings
> 
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From kk6ecm at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 11:29:11 2015
From: kk6ecm at gmail.com (kk6ecm)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:29:11 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Incoming Echolink connection doesn`t work
In-Reply-To: <ACDA4F0C-A63B-4C71-B802-67DCCADD9106@gmail.com>
References: <1423490802518.90696@klimt-online.com>
	<1423563075665.21742@klimt-online.com>
	<ACDA4F0C-A63B-4C71-B802-67DCCADD9106@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C9133C2-55FD-472E-8E10-E276611E1B2E@gmail.com>

Or should I say, a node that is closer that you can connect, to see if the same problem occurs.

Thanks,
Bob
kk6ecm

Sent from iPad


> On Feb 10, 2015, at 3:11 AM, kk6ecm <kk6ecm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't know, but it appears to me to be a network issue; going beyond TCP timeout to keepalive terminating. Could try using different Echolink servers. Perhaps there is one available to that is closer to you?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
> kk6ecm
> 
> Sent from iPad
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2015, at 2:11 AM, Torben Klimt <torben at klimt-online.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Nobody any ideas ? :-(
>> 
>> greetings from germany torben dh6mbt
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org <app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org> im Auftrag von Torben Klimt <torben at klimt-online.com>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 15:06
>> An: APP RPT
>> Betreff: [App_rpt-users] Incoming Echolink connection doesn`t work
>> 
>> hi all,
>> from one day to another it is not possible to connect my node by echolink.
>> outgoing connectens work well but if i want to connect from external i get following message
>> any ideas ?
>> 
>> 
>> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-28", "28535") in new stack
>> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-28'
>> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-213277950'
>> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-29", "28535") in new stack
>> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-29'
>> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1746953366'
>> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-30", "28535") in new stack
>> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-30'
>> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1705317437'
>> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-31", "28535") in new stack
>> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-31'
>> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1525394495'
>> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-32", "28535") in new stack
>> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-32'
>> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-1076156582'
>> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-33", "28535") in new stack
>> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-33'
>> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-82187291'
>> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-34", "28535") in new stack
>> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-34'
>> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-76728912'
>> -- Executing [28535 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("echolink/el0-35", "28535") in new stack
>> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 28535, 1) exited KEEPALIVE on 'echolink/el0-35'
>> -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-62045735'
>> 
>> greetings
>> 
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From wb3awj at comcast.net  Tue Feb 10 13:29:21 2015
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 08:29:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W34A9341AAFB5AE9E8D4157BA240@phx.gbl>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEacFjBXoVs2wSkLjec_6ZoQngh884bTBXO9gamv7h4qkQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEYH7Zk1DVhWoiQcrWceh=Qi1Myf2yKCkK-XoiUnwQw_5g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAM09xEbdn9PhV5AZF-Su52u0f7CiDfCvqRryAQxbZF=uewm=Fg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W34AFB3EE1278E98FC91A0FBA270@phx.gbl>,
	<54D9379F.7060901@gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>,
	<6A9C64EB-616F-49CC-BE4D-5B194CF9A818@mac.com>,
	<BLU172-W426094C4B9E73F8E30EAFABA240@phx.gbl>,
	<B91B073E-4615-4942-B758-4ECAE3780F88@comcast.net>,
	<0E3DB0D9-2D54-4F8C-8CFB-F1C7258148BF@mac.com>
	<BLU172-W34A9341AAFB5AE9E8D4157BA240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C7A03013-313F-4597-AD84-363F1FC47CAE@comcast.net>

Yes, that's true.

And as previously stated, that's the underlying beauty of this software. There is not always ONE way to do something.

In fact, I have loads of my own supporting scripts running on my nodes.

However the current question was simply how to play a greeting message to an inbound connecting node without the existing connections being bothered by it.

The snippet I posted was in fact a only a small bit of code that I use on my frequency agile base to restrict access to only "registered" nodes/users. I do that in lieu of having the user log in.

Bob, WB3AWJ
Loganville, Pa


On February 10, 2015 1:55:21 AM EST, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>I think they both have their place. The script gives you loads more
>flexibility. You can do more than just play a sound file.

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Tue Feb 10 14:03:16 2015
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (Jon Rorke)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:03:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] re Zello on Allstar
Message-ID: <54DA0FA4.4010909@cogeco.ca>

How do you install Zello on an Allstar node?

Can you use it like iax_rpt or zoiper?

Do tell.

Jon VA3RQ
> I run zello on my node which records all traffic. It is also nice 
> because I can monitor my nodes 24/7 with ease.



From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Tue Feb 10 14:37:43 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:37:43 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] wtf? a ranger node? (was strange courtesy tone)
In-Reply-To: <54D9987D.8050205@bryanfields.net>
References: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>
	<4cb50483f19533aceeabfb8d4fcc7f9c.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
	<WM!9801be0e1d7365ebdb3d5f9f1d32675fe1b713329af378278ff191919bb43d34946c550d7d436c937a821110103ebe36!@asav-1.01.com>
	<54D84379.60708@bryanfields.net>
	<c7491579356b7e661e51473e3cb7d0e7.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
	<WM!efd158c85e3b73f2dc4150e2f5fde9d8d3685c1daf5eefe4591874ccabfbcaa5494fb81406aa7530815daaeb627e402b!@asav-3.01.com>
	<54D8561F.20701@bryanfields.net>
	<WM!2e9276729cb05bccb74a3d38d2b1a3078d0f14edd0fb7c59de88e7adeff03f92bdbe186c4c427f172027adf67aeab45c!@asav-1.01.com>
	<54D9987D.8050205@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <5C8EB08E-4B28-4F2A-9189-A4A34CBB5FDC@mac.com>

You pretty much have it right. There are a couple of ranger nodes on the nodes list. I think there was some effort to create a national Ranger simplex channel. LiTZ on that channel would trigger an alarm to notify those monitoring of an emergency. I don?t know what happened to the project.

> On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
> On 2/9/15, 1:39 AM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>> I've looked at the logs and run it in debug too.  No obvious errors (or any
>> for that matter).
>> 
>> Guess I could run it under GDB next....
> 
> I read the source to app_rpt.c and found that nodes starting with a 9 are
> called a ranger node. No idea what this is.  Can anyone elaborate?
> 
>> #define ISRANGER(name) (name[0] == '9')
> 
>> /* if has a RANGER node connected to it, use special telemetry for RANGER mode */
>>                if (haslink)
>>                {
>>                        res = telem_lookup(myrpt,mychannel, myrpt->name, "ranger");
>>                        if(res)
>>                                ast_log(LOG_WARNING, "telem_lookup:ranger failed on %s\n", mychannel->name);
>>                }
> 
> looks like a ranger node is suppose to listen for a LiTZ and then connect to
> another node.  When others are using that other node as along as the ranger
> node is connected to it it will send the "ranger" CT which is what I'm hearing.
> 
>> {"ranger","|t(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,150,0)"}
> 
> Good news is my 1800 hz decode from audacity was correct!
> 
> So I'm guessing this is meant to be some kinda half duplex node that links in
> for emergency use.  Anyone have any idea on this?  I can't find anything on
> the docs site about ranger nodes.
> 
> If I make the node in the 1902 the problem goes away, or I could define the
> "ranger" CT to be nothing.
> 
> 73's
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> 727-214-2508 - Fax
> http://bryanfields.net
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From N1XBM at amsat.org  Tue Feb 10 14:38:28 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:38:28 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] re Zello on Allstar
In-Reply-To: <54DA0FA4.4010909@cogeco.ca>
References: <54DA0FA4.4010909@cogeco.ca>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEYq2A727tdk279ayx2Kko38uTqnkGSns10QpsOPMqVjbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe I should get off my but and write a article to post to the web. I get
this question a lot.

Here is how I did it. There might be better ways to skin the cat but this
way has worked just fine for me

You need a dedicated windows computer ( never tried linux) install zello
and create a channel and create a account for your node.

Install a virtual audio cable program.

Install zoiper and create an account on your server. I just called my
zello. Also set the account for VOX.

Now use zoiper to connect to your node and set your mic and speaker for the
two virtual audio cables you've created.

Open zello sign in using your repeater account once signed, in join the
channel you created.  Also password protect you channel.  I only gave
access to people I know on a face to face basis. I get "outsiders" asking
to use it but I have no true way knowing they are a ham. In zello set you
mic and speaker for the opposite of what you set in zoiper. For example you
feed the speaker into the mic and feed the mic into the speaker of zoiper.
Basically cross the cables!

You may have to tweak the vox levels a bit. I set my repeater account to
emit a beep at the end of a transmission this serves two purposes.  One we
are using VOX so it acts like a Roger beep...Ya I know some of you are
cringing but it's helpful in this application. We had users not know for
sure if someone is still talking.  It also alerts out local user that the
person is on zello.

I also installed VNC.

This has run perfectly flawless.  Maybe once a month I need to restart the
computer but I do it thru VNC.

Zello has a much more "walkie-talkie" feel as a control operator it allows
me to have channel recording and instant play back.

We also have a friend in the group who is the over the road truck driver.
He uses a hands free head set and you can map the PTT.  So for him it works
grest. Zoiper is a good program but just not as user friendly as zello for
a more true "walkie-talkie" feel. I thought this setup was going to be
hoakie but for the end user it is smooth and seamless. The one draw back is
I still need to zoiper to control my repeater when out of RF range.
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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Tue Feb 10 14:47:38 2015
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:47:38 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] wtf? a ranger node? (was strange courtesy tone)
In-Reply-To: <5C8EB08E-4B28-4F2A-9189-A4A34CBB5FDC@mac.com>
References: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>
	<4cb50483f19533aceeabfb8d4fcc7f9c.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
	<WM!9801be0e1d7365ebdb3d5f9f1d32675fe1b713329af378278ff191919bb43d34946c550d7d436c937a821110103ebe36!@asav-1.01.com>
	<54D84379.60708@bryanfields.net>
	<c7491579356b7e661e51473e3cb7d0e7.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
	<WM!efd158c85e3b73f2dc4150e2f5fde9d8d3685c1daf5eefe4591874ccabfbcaa5494fb81406aa7530815daaeb627e402b!@asav-3.01.com>
	<54D8561F.20701@bryanfields.net>
	<WM!2e9276729cb05bccb74a3d38d2b1a3078d0f14edd0fb7c59de88e7adeff03f92bdbe186c4c427f172027adf67aeab45c!@asav-1.01.com>
	<54D9987D.8050205@bryanfields.net>
	<5C8EB08E-4B28-4F2A-9189-A4A34CBB5FDC@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4CC2D032-54EF-49C0-BD28-BE92D4D003B7@bdboyle.com>

jum and i wrote an nprm to establish a single freq on non interference basis, League lobbied against it, fcc shot it down

simple answer.
--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone 5...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.



> On Feb 10, 2015, at 09:37, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> You pretty much have it right. There are a couple of ranger nodes on the nodes list. I think there was some effort to create a national Ranger simplex channel. LiTZ on that channel would trigger an alarm to notify those monitoring of an emergency. I don?t know what happened to the project.
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/9/15, 1:39 AM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>>> I've looked at the logs and run it in debug too.  No obvious errors (or any
>>> for that matter).
>>> 
>>> Guess I could run it under GDB next....
>> 
>> I read the source to app_rpt.c and found that nodes starting with a 9 are
>> called a ranger node. No idea what this is.  Can anyone elaborate?
>> 
>>> #define ISRANGER(name) (name[0] == '9')
>> 
>>> /* if has a RANGER node connected to it, use special telemetry for RANGER mode */
>>>               if (haslink)
>>>               {
>>>                       res = telem_lookup(myrpt,mychannel, myrpt->name, "ranger");
>>>                       if(res)
>>>                               ast_log(LOG_WARNING, "telem_lookup:ranger failed on %s\n", mychannel->name);
>>>               }
>> 
>> looks like a ranger node is suppose to listen for a LiTZ and then connect to
>> another node.  When others are using that other node as along as the ranger
>> node is connected to it it will send the "ranger" CT which is what I'm hearing.
>> 
>>> {"ranger","|t(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,50,0)(1800,0,60,3072)(0,0,150,0)"}
>> 
>> Good news is my 1800 hz decode from audacity was correct!
>> 
>> So I'm guessing this is meant to be some kinda half duplex node that links in
>> for emergency use.  Anyone have any idea on this?  I can't find anything on
>> the docs site about ranger nodes.
>> 
>> If I make the node in the 1902 the problem goes away, or I could define the
>> "ranger" CT to be nothing.
>> 
>> 73's
>> -- 
>> Bryan Fields
>> 
>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> 727-214-2508 - Fax
>> http://bryanfields.net
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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> 
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Feb 10 14:55:41 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:55:41 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] wtf? a ranger node? (was strange courtesy tone)
In-Reply-To: <WM!27743d213ab018b3b81bda1e54083425be8e416c8c5f0adc5a4358b69200bfe9ce0cbf91611b961de4144c0950ea26a4!@asav-1.01.com>
References: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>	<4cb50483f19533aceeabfb8d4fcc7f9c.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>	<WM!9801be0e1d7365ebdb3d5f9f1d32675fe1b713329af378278ff191919bb43d34946c550d7d436c937a821110103ebe36!@asav-1.01.com>	<54D84379.60708@bryanfields.net>	<c7491579356b7e661e51473e3cb7d0e7.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>	<WM!efd158c85e3b73f2dc4150e2f5fde9d8d3685c1daf5eefe4591874ccabfbcaa5494fb81406aa7530815daaeb627e402b!@asav-3.01.com>	<54D8561F.20701@bryanfields.net>	<WM!2e9276729cb05bccb74a3d38d2b1a3078d0f14edd0fb7c59de88e7adeff03f92bdbe186c4c427f172027adf67aeab45c!@asav-1.01.com>	<54D9987D.8050205@bryanfields.net>	<5C8EB08E-4B28-4F2A-9189-A4A34CBB5FDC@mac.com>
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	<WM!27743d213ab018b3b81bda1e54083425be8e416c8c5f0adc5a4358b69200bfe9ce0cbf91611b961de4144c0950ea26a4!@asav-1.01.com>
Message-ID: <54DA1BED.9020501@bryanfields.net>

On 2/10/15 9:47 AM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:
> jum and i wrote an nprm to establish a single freq on non interference basis,
> League lobbied against it, fcc shot it down

:(

I just can't stand the politics of this stuff some times.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net


From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Tue Feb 10 15:12:42 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 07:12:42 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] re Zello on Allstar
In-Reply-To: <CAM09xEYq2A727tdk279ayx2Kko38uTqnkGSns10QpsOPMqVjbQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54DA0FA4.4010909@cogeco.ca>
	<CAM09xEYq2A727tdk279ayx2Kko38uTqnkGSns10QpsOPMqVjbQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E37AF00A-8139-40DD-AB6B-13255A54C687@mac.com>

It?s amazing that app_rpt because of it?s underlying architecture, has the flexibility to do this sort of thing. It's really great that folks can experiment with it and learn. We also are very fortunate to have the AllStar network that enjoys interconnection from any (legal) source. No doubt Zello is one of those instances. 

But I have to say Zello sounds like poop. They have connected to my node a couple of times and it?s just awful. The VOX doesn?t work well on Zello (VOX never does) and the audio is absolutely terrible.  Wide usage of Zello in it?s current form could ruin AllStar. 

If you want to experiment (with Zello or whatever) go for it. But be respectful of the larger AllStar network. People may have different expectations than you and may not appreciate what you are doing. 

> On Feb 10, 2015, at 6:38 AM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should get off my but and write a article to post to the web. I get this question a lot.
> 
> Here is how I did it. There might be better ways to skin the cat but this way has worked just fine for me
> 
> You need a dedicated windows computer ( never tried linux) install zello and create a channel and create a account for your node.
> 
> Install a virtual audio cable program.
> 
> Install zoiper and create an account on your server. I just called my zello. Also set the account for VOX.
> 
> Now use zoiper to connect to your node and set your mic and speaker for the two virtual audio cables you've created.
> 
> Open zello sign in using your repeater account once signed, in join the channel you created.  Also password protect you channel.  I only gave access to people I know on a face to face basis. I get "outsiders" asking to use it but I have no true way knowing they are a ham. In zello set you mic and speaker for the opposite of what you set in zoiper. For example you feed the speaker into the mic and feed the mic into the speaker of zoiper. Basically cross the cables!
> 
> You may have to tweak the vox levels a bit. I set my repeater account to emit a beep at the end of a transmission this serves two purposes.  One we are using VOX so it acts like a Roger beep...Ya I know some of you are cringing but it's helpful in this application. We had users not know for sure if someone is still talking.  It also alerts out local user that the person is on zello.
> 
> I also installed VNC.
> 
> This has run perfectly flawless.  Maybe once a month I need to restart the computer but I do it thru VNC.
> 
> Zello has a much more "walkie-talkie" feel as a control operator it allows me to have channel recording and instant play back.
> 
> We also have a friend in the group who is the over the road truck driver. He uses a hands free head set and you can map the PTT.  So for him it works grest. Zoiper is a good program but just not as user friendly as zello for a more true "walkie-talkie" feel. I thought this setup was going to be hoakie but for the end user it is smooth and seamless. The one draw back is I still need to zoiper to control my repeater when out of RF range.
> 
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> 
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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Tue Feb 10 15:18:34 2015
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:18:34 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] wtf? a ranger node? (was strange courtesy tone)
In-Reply-To: <54DA1BED.9020501@bryanfields.net>
References: <54D83AF1.9050202@bryanfields.net>
	<4cb50483f19533aceeabfb8d4fcc7f9c.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>
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	<54D84379.60708@bryanfields.net>
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	<WM!efd158c85e3b73f2dc4150e2f5fde9d8d3685c1daf5eefe4591874ccabfbcaa5494fb81406aa7530815daaeb627e402b!@asav-3.01.com>
	<54D8561F.20701@bryanfields.net>
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	<54D9987D.8050205@bryanfields.net>
	<5C8EB08E-4B28-4F2A-9189-A4A34CBB5FDC@mac.com>
	<4CC2D032-54EF-49C0-BD28-BE92D4D003B7@bdboyle.com>
	<WM!27743d213ab018b3b81bda1e54083425be8e416c8c5f0adc5a4358b69200bfe9ce0cbf91611b961de4144c0950ea26a4!@asav-1.01.com>
	<54DA1BED.9020501@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <05FBDFCB-6E19-4A99-99C8-7C0B3B396E8E@bdboyle.com>

NIH syndrome.  (Not Invented Here)

Poly: 'many'
Tics: 'blood sucking insects' (work with me, ok?)

Drove me out of the hobby in the late 80s. Pretty much has done the same now.  

An object lesson that if the League cabal doesn't think it furthers their aims (which may or may not be the same as an amateur operator), no matter how good the idea may be, they will marshal their not inconsiderable lobbying forces to roadblock or sandbag you.

--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone 5...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.



> On Feb 10, 2015, at 09:55, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/10/15 9:47 AM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:
>> jum and i wrote an nprm to establish a single freq on non interference basis,
>> League lobbied against it, fcc shot it down
> 
> :(
> 
> I just can't stand the politics of this stuff some times.
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> 727-214-2508 - Fax
> http://bryanfields.net
> _______________________________________________
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From N1XBM at amsat.org  Tue Feb 10 15:29:23 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:29:23 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] re Zello on Allstar
In-Reply-To: <E37AF00A-8139-40DD-AB6B-13255A54C687@mac.com>
References: <54DA0FA4.4010909@cogeco.ca>
	<CAM09xEYq2A727tdk279ayx2Kko38uTqnkGSns10QpsOPMqVjbQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<E37AF00A-8139-40DD-AB6B-13255A54C687@mac.com>
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I guess I should add I am not a dialing for dollars guy so I don't leave my
node parked on any networks we just mostly mind our own business up here in
Maine. Is the audio perfect no its not. I suppose there is some compression
happening somewhere.

With that said I have less than a half dozen people with access to my zello
channel most of them with the exception of the over the road trucker just
use it as a monitor only type situation because the app itself runs good on
a smartphone and it has a nice feature set. The truck driver friend likes
it because he can use his blue parrot head set and a mapped ptt keeps him
legal. The audio is good enough to hear. No not perfect though. His headset
has some serious noise canceling and he doesn't sound half bad.
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From james at lyljtlabs.com  Tue Feb 10 16:36:56 2015
From: james at lyljtlabs.com (James Lyles)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:36:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 12V to 5V DC-DC Converters?
Message-ID: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017047D53940@MAILR002.mail.lan>

I have one of these on order, I'll run some tests when it actually arrives.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310847327341?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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From wb3awj at comcast.net  Tue Feb 10 23:19:02 2015
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff WB3AWJ)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:19:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hit and run
In-Reply-To: <C7A03013-313F-4597-AD84-363F1FC47CAE@comcast.net>
References: <CAM09xEbySeNNcA4Gm5NMPKDJsEJYhFTp_+i6YJo8XGEcatsANw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W266D7041534CB8646F95C1BA270@phx.gbl>
	<6A9C64EB-616F-49CC-BE4D-5B194CF9A818@mac.com>
	<BLU172-W426094C4B9E73F8E30EAFABA240@phx.gbl>
	<B91B073E-4615-4942-B758-4ECAE3780F88@comcast.net>
	<0E3DB0D9-2D54-4F8C-8CFB-F1C7258148BF@mac.com>
	<BLU172-W34A9341AAFB5AE9E8D4157BA240@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <585371951.3604267.1423610342085.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>

I did a bit of playing with this this afternoon. 

The entry in my extensions.conf is now : 
exten => 29043,1,Playback(/etc/W3HZU/announce/SPECIAL/YorkStar_Radio_Network_v2,noanswer) 
exten => 29043,n,rpt,29043 

The "noanswer" option plays the file without answering the call. 
If you don't add that, it seems to keep repeating the file, and holds the node (and all others connected) in transmit. 
Details here : http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Playback 


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From horsezip at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 11 16:52:49 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:52:49 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] acid firewall
Message-ID: <il1ndalil160nnk2r2hk8e6v9fojhe3i6t@4ax.com>

will someone who is using the fire wall in acid contact me i need help


From wayne at anywherehost.net  Wed Feb 11 19:29:15 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:29:15 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Poor Man's Voting
Message-ID: <BF2A5303BCB84D2DB6DFC4FDCBE2BB6D@delllaptop>

We are aggressively pursuing our first deployment of an Allstar node to be followed by a second repeater on the same repeater pair. They will be separated by about 100 miles and both repeaters face are on the face south. There is over-lapping coverage that can be mitigated some by turning the power down. The repeaters are Motorola MSF 5000?s and we originally had the GPS modules. They were stolen. I don?t have a clue on their part number but we need to sync transmit and minimize out-of-sync transmitting. No other pairs are available in Los Angeles. I assume that we will need to sync audio to some extent.

What are some other issues we might face and does the RTCM have services that might help? Or the configuration files?

Thanks in advance.
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From ldrolet at cgocable.ca  Wed Feb 11 23:18:21 2015
From: ldrolet at cgocable.ca (Luc Drolet VE2LUQ)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:18:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asterisk  LOG
Message-ID: <870149B7-D361-46A7-829A-B5A7A024A306@cgocable.ca>

Hello to you all,

I want to activate the log in my ASTERISK log file (/ var / log / asterisk / full - last 2000 lines),
 since I have redone my installation I no longer have my log? Dose anyone know how to get it back ? and tell me if there is a method to activate it

Thank you and good day to you all !

Luc 
VE2LUQ


From email at jonbyrne.com  Thu Feb 12 01:28:13 2015
From: email at jonbyrne.com (Jon Byrne)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 01:28:13 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry Pi 2 Node on Air
Message-ID: <CALLtVpW9MX1dftWTSaco454k=qqZR1137UE1wxxjWm2VT1yd=A@mail.gmail.com>

Right after a couple of busy days at work tonight I finally got my
Raspberry Pi 2 app_rpt node connected to my node radio and on air on
430.025MHz here in Stockport, UK.

With some more tests to do to balance the audio across a number of
stations, audio is sounding good.

My the PI has been on connected to a the UK Allstarhub with a dummy USB Fob
connected since Sunday morning, without faltering and tonight?s brief QSOs
add more positive news to those of use out there who want to give it a go.

Is anyone else giving it a go at the moment? I'll get my notes over to
N4IRS and see if we can get the scripts updated to work on the Pi 2.

If anyone wants more info let me know.

Reagrds

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Jon Byrne - 2E0RFU
email at jonbyrne.com -jonbyrne.com - 07842 230 604
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From lorentedford at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 06:50:32 2015
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:50:32 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] At what tempature should I start getting concerned
Message-ID: <CAK=eTygSyGuTusxiMw225fpK_y=8OOGA-oiA8LYC9ECbrEPLNw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey I have a repeater located in a harsh environment and was curious at
what temperature should i be concerned of failure here is the repeaters
current temps..
[root at KC9ZHV-_R ~]# sensors -f
k8temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp:
             -56?F
Core1 Temp:
              +5?F

[root at KC9ZHV-_R ~]#

So far it still works but still monitoring it for issues..
Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: lorentedford at live.com
Email: lorentedford at aol.com
Email: LorenCS at Ltcraft.net
Email: lorentedford at yahoo.com
Email: loren at lorentedford.com <loren at lorentedford.com>
Email: loren at richlandcountycomputers.com
Email: loren at newwavesucks.com
Phone:
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://www.Ltcraft.net <http://www.ltcraft.net/>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Thu Feb 12 10:29:41 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 05:29:41 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] At what tempature should I start getting
	concerned
In-Reply-To: <WM!890073d2ee8c48a324984bc1dca1012dc45c379d0b15e3ae9bf0b4d86ad81304023c7531392a3c6f6e2cd8eefdebbcf3!@asav-1.01.com>
References: <CAK=eTygSyGuTusxiMw225fpK_y=8OOGA-oiA8LYC9ECbrEPLNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!890073d2ee8c48a324984bc1dca1012dc45c379d0b15e3ae9bf0b4d86ad81304023c7531392a3c6f6e2cd8eefdebbcf3!@asav-1.01.com>
Message-ID: <54DC8095.8070208@bryanfields.net>

On 2/12/15 1:50 AM, Loren Tedford wrote:
> Hey I have a repeater located in a harsh environment and was curious at what
> temperature should i be concerned of failure here is the repeaters current
> temps..
> [root at KC9ZHV-_R ~]# sensors -f
> k8temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> *Core0 Temp:**
> **             -56?F*
This seems suspect, it's very very cold for a core on the same chip.  I'd be
inclined to mark it as invalid.
At cold temps, you run into issues with the  devices not being able to cold
boot.  Once running most things will be fine down to -40c/f or so, but if let
sit at that temp, they may not boot.  Keep in mind these are built with
commercial grade parts which are not rated for these extremes.
> Core1 Temp:
>               +5?F

73's W9CR

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net

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From lorentedford at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 12:30:03 2015
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 06:30:03 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] At what tempature should I start getting
	concerned
In-Reply-To: <54DC8095.8070208@bryanfields.net>
References: <CAK=eTygSyGuTusxiMw225fpK_y=8OOGA-oiA8LYC9ECbrEPLNw@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!890073d2ee8c48a324984bc1dca1012dc45c379d0b15e3ae9bf0b4d86ad81304023c7531392a3c6f6e2cd8eefdebbcf3!@asav-1.01.com>
	<54DC8095.8070208@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CAK=eTyjrSy3ERhjpFGHGcymJVjPgbbyEFMJ7PSqfLtn9wAkKWw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the info yea I didnt think i had much to worry about on the cold
end but mainly the heated end as far as core 0 i think its a mis read
unless its pulling a sensor off the solidstate hard drive thats ontop of
the case which has a very large fan on it to cool the motherboard and the
transmitters and a backup fan that has a relay switch when temperature gets
to warm however the main fan is on all the time never thought about putting
a switch on it we have a few that have a heavy habit of timing out the
repeaters just wanted to keep my motorola cm200s all four vhf and uhf nice
and cool..

model name    : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
stepping    : 2
cpu MHz        : 1607.465
cache size    : 512 KB
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp:
             -49?C
Core1 Temp:
             -16?C
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp:
             -56?F
Core1 Temp:
              +3?

Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: lorentedford at live.com
Email: lorentedford at aol.com
Email: LorenCS at Ltcraft.net
Email: lorentedford at yahoo.com
Email: loren at lorentedford.com <loren at lorentedford.com>
Email: loren at richlandcountycomputers.com
Email: loren at newwavesucks.com
Phone:
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://www.Ltcraft.net <http://www.ltcraft.net/>
http://www.richlandcountycomputers.com
http://kc9zhv.lorentedford.com
http://newwavesucks.com

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:29 AM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

>  On 2/12/15 1:50 AM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>
> Hey I have a repeater located in a harsh environment and was curious at
> what temperature should i be concerned of failure here is the repeaters
> current temps..
> [root at KC9ZHV-_R ~]# sensors -f
> k8temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> *Core0 Temp:*
> *             -56?F*
>
> This seems suspect, it's very very cold for a core on the same chip.  I'd
> be inclined to mark it as invalid.
> At cold temps, you run into issues with the  devices not being able to
> cold boot.  Once running most things will be fine down to -40c/f or so, but
> if let sit at that temp, they may not boot.  Keep in mind these are built
> with commercial grade parts which are not rated for these extremes.
>
> Core1 Temp:
>               +5?F
>
>
> 73's W9CR
>
> --
> Bryan Fields
> 727-409-1194 - Voice727-214-2508 - Faxhttp://bryanfields.net
>
>
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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 16:00:13 2015
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:00:13 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
Message-ID: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>

The win system and the wan system are both great systems because of the
sheer coverage, but during pileups, it might be hard to say hi to your
friend across the country. And then theres so many random keyups like on
the WIN system for example. On thanksgiving, I there was like 100 short
keyups in a row without ID.

What is the best compromise between a wide coverage, and the amount of
traffic on the system?

-- 
Skyler Fennell
amsatnet.info
KD?WHB
electricity440 at gmail.com
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Thu Feb 12 19:18:43 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:18:43 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <363A81BA925A44129893FEB8A8B5D046@delllaptop>

Which is why we have decided on our own three repeater WAN. Our site provider has 25 sites linked together and a VLAN isn?t a problem. although the WIN System is good it is still one conversation at a time. Over 100 repeaters (?) to talk about where Bill and Bob are going to lunch LOL. I long for the say that I win the lottery (like last nights powerball!) and launch the first multi-site, multi-state trunked system where I?ll give away radios just to populate it! NexEdge / NXDN has my vote.

Until then we?re launching a powerful server with a 100MBs connection that can handle 70+ connections. As I learn more...

From: Skyler F 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 8:00 AM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff

The win system and the wan system are both great systems because of the sheer coverage, but during pileups, it might be hard to say hi to your friend across the country. And then theres so many random keyups like on the WIN system for example. On thanksgiving, I there was like 100 short keyups in a row without ID.  

What is the best compromise between a wide coverage, and the amount of traffic on the system?


-- 

Skyler Fennell 
amsatnet.info
KD?WHB
electricity440 at gmail.com


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From n3fe at repeater.net  Thu Feb 12 19:29:42 2015
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:29:42 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <363A81BA925A44129893FEB8A8B5D046@delllaptop>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<363A81BA925A44129893FEB8A8B5D046@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <21355157-8927-430B-A47A-71DB6777F169@repeater.net>

More like 800+ connections... 

Corey

> On Feb 12, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Wayne <wayne at anywherehost.net> wrote:
> 
> Which is why we have decided on our own three repeater WAN. Our site provider has 25 sites linked together and a VLAN isn?t a problem. although the WIN System is good it is still one conversation at a time. Over 100 repeaters (?) to talk about where Bill and Bob are going to lunch LOL. I long for the say that I win the lottery (like last nights powerball!) and launch the first multi-site, multi-state trunked system where I?ll give away radios just to populate it! NexEdge / NXDN has my vote.
>  
> Until then we?re launching a powerful server with a 100MBs connection that can handle 70+ connections. As I learn more...
>  
> From: Skyler F
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 8:00 AM
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
>  
> The win system and the wan system are both great systems because of the sheer coverage, but during pileups, it might be hard to say hi to your friend across the country. And then theres so many random keyups like on the WIN system for example. On thanksgiving, I there was like 100 short keyups in a row without ID. 
>  
> What is the best compromise between a wide coverage, and the amount of traffic on the system?
>  
> -- 
> Skyler Fennell
> amsatnet.info
> KD?WHB
> electricity440 at gmail.com
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Thu Feb 12 19:59:15 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:59:15 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <21355157-8927-430B-A47A-71DB6777F169@repeater.net>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com><363A81BA925A44129893FEB8A8B5D046@delllaptop>
	<21355157-8927-430B-A47A-71DB6777F169@repeater.net>
Message-ID: <9D58635B585E49F7BF22D3BEE3A58A8E@delllaptop>

A dual processor AMD with 8GB of RAM and RAID. I may swap the HDD?s for SSD?s. We?ve temporarily installed on a Celeron 2.66GHz with 512MB of RAM. We got our node numbers today! We?ll see how it does.

From: Corey Dean 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:29 AM
To: Wayne 
Cc: mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff

More like 800+ connections... 

Corey

On Feb 12, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Wayne <wayne at anywherehost.net> wrote:


  Which is why we have decided on our own three repeater WAN. Our site provider has 25 sites linked together and a VLAN isn?t a problem. although the WIN System is good it is still one conversation at a time. Over 100 repeaters (?) to talk about where Bill and Bob are going to lunch LOL. I long for the say that I win the lottery (like last nights powerball!) and launch the first multi-site, multi-state trunked system where I?ll give away radios just to populate it! NexEdge / NXDN has my vote.

  Until then we?re launching a powerful server with a 100MBs connection that can handle 70+ connections. As I learn more...

  From: Skyler F 
  Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 8:00 AM
  To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
  Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff

  The win system and the wan system are both great systems because of the sheer coverage, but during pileups, it might be hard to say hi to your friend across the country. And then theres so many random keyups like on the WIN system for example. On thanksgiving, I there was like 100 short keyups in a row without ID.  

  What is the best compromise between a wide coverage, and the amount of traffic on the system?


  -- 

  Skyler Fennell 
  amsatnet.info
  KD?WHB
  electricity440 at gmail.com

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From w7ldn at w7ldn.com  Fri Feb 13 00:37:09 2015
From: w7ldn at w7ldn.com (Elden Fenison)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 00:37:09 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] denying inbound calls
Message-ID: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>

I have a little node in my garage that runs on a simplex frequency at 5
watts. The range is probably a mile or two. This node was intended strictly
for my own use. I use a HT to talk to it while I'm at home.

In thinking of the legal (FCC) ramifications of running a node... it seems
I'm at risk. If anyone dials into the node via VoIP on either Echolink or
Allstar... they will essentially be transmitting from my node radio. I do
believe I need to be in control of the node (my station) at all times per
FCC rules. Well, obviously if I'm at work and out of range, I can't be
monitoring my node for illegal transmissions.

I can't be the first one with this question. I think denying all inbound
VoIP calls might make this somewhat more safe. I know how to deny inbound
Echolink calls via the deny statement.

But how do I deny inbound Allstar calls? Do I just make my node private?
And how does one do that? Do I just comment out the "register" statement in
iax.conf?
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From bbrown at byrg.net  Fri Feb 13 01:40:16 2015
From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?UTF-8?B?Qm9iIEJyb3duIC0gV8OYTlFY?=)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:40:16 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] denying inbound calls
In-Reply-To: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+WM89ZXt7AsxzbC8O=tTY6O1RZBD0wTXYFen9MR2KjwbCbW=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Why don't you disable it while your not in range.

I use Putty to log in remotely to disable/re-enable it.

That is what I do with my private home node where I don't have absolute
physical control.





--
Thanks in Advance

   Bob Brown, W?NQX

   Kansas City Metro Area

   http://drsm0ke.net

   http://byrg.net

   http://sm0kenet.net

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?




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On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Elden Fenison <w7ldn at w7ldn.com> wrote:

> I have a little node in my garage that runs on a simplex frequency at 5
> watts. The range is probably a mile or two. This node was intended strictly
> for my own use. I use a HT to talk to it while I'm at home.
>
> In thinking of the legal (FCC) ramifications of running a node... it seems
> I'm at risk. If anyone dials into the node via VoIP on either Echolink or
> Allstar... they will essentially be transmitting from my node radio. I do
> believe I need to be in control of the node (my station) at all times per
> FCC rules. Well, obviously if I'm at work and out of range, I can't be
> monitoring my node for illegal transmissions.
>
> I can't be the first one with this question. I think denying all inbound
> VoIP calls might make this somewhat more safe. I know how to deny inbound
> Echolink calls via the deny statement.
>
> But how do I deny inbound Allstar calls? Do I just make my node private?
> And how does one do that? Do I just comment out the "register" statement in
> iax.conf?
>
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From mike at midnighteng.com  Fri Feb 13 01:57:54 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:57:54 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] denying inbound calls
In-Reply-To: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f3ff039b6c2202b7ae4ba51eb120dfcf.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


Eldin,

First, the rules are just a bit different for stations in repeater
operation. The person making the illegal transmission is responsible for
that transmission.
Some of the differences state the need of a second means for control of
the system and a watchdog timer for unattended operation.

If you want to deny/allow some or all in echolink, use those statements in
your echolink.conf file

see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/56

Allstar has the NOICE command - NO Incoming Connects Enable.

see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/166

...mike/kb8jnm


> I have a little node in my garage that runs on a simplex frequency at 5
> watts. The range is probably a mile or two. This node was intended
> strictly
> for my own use. I use a HT to talk to it while I'm at home.
>
> In thinking of the legal (FCC) ramifications of running a node... it seems
> I'm at risk. If anyone dials into the node via VoIP on either Echolink or
> Allstar... they will essentially be transmitting from my node radio. I do
> believe I need to be in control of the node (my station) at all times per
> FCC rules. Well, obviously if I'm at work and out of range, I can't be
> monitoring my node for illegal transmissions.
>
> I can't be the first one with this question. I think denying all inbound
> VoIP calls might make this somewhat more safe. I know how to deny inbound
> Echolink calls via the deny statement.
>
> But how do I deny inbound Allstar calls? Do I just make my node private?
> And how does one do that? Do I just comment out the "register" statement
> in
> iax.conf?
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From wb3awj at comcast.net  Fri Feb 13 03:02:05 2015
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 22:02:05 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] denying inbound calls
In-Reply-To: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5C100C41-1575-41C9-BCD8-4C14989B3197@comcast.net>

Command cop 49 will deny all incoming connections. Both Allstar and Echolink.

In rpt.conf inside the functions stanza, assign it to a DTMF code of your liking. 
For example, "69=COP,49" . Then in the node stanza add "startup_macro=*69".

When your restart, the macro will execute and set the node deny incoming connections.

No need to do the "deny=" in echolink.conf.

Personally, I'd also add a function with COP,50 should you want to enable  incoming on the fly.



On February 12, 2015 7:37:09 PM EST, Elden Fenison <w7ldn at w7ldn.com> wrote:
>I have a little node in my garage that runs on a simplex frequency at 5
>watts. The range is probably a mile or two. This node was intended
>strictly
>for my own use. I use a HT to talk to it while I'm at home.
>
>In thinking of the legal (FCC) ramifications of running a node... it
>seems
>I'm at risk. If anyone dials into the node via VoIP on either Echolink
>or
>Allstar... they will essentially be transmitting from my node radio. I
>do
>believe I need to be in control of the node (my station) at all times
>per
>FCC rules. Well, obviously if I'm at work and out of range, I can't be
>monitoring my node for illegal transmissions.
>
>I can't be the first one with this question. I think denying all
>inbound
>VoIP calls might make this somewhat more safe. I know how to deny
>inbound
>Echolink calls via the deny statement.
>
>But how do I deny inbound Allstar calls? Do I just make my node
>private?
>And how does one do that? Do I just comment out the "register"
>statement in
>iax.conf?
>
>
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From w7ldn at w7ldn.com  Fri Feb 13 04:02:58 2015
From: w7ldn at w7ldn.com (Elden Fenison)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 04:02:58 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] denying inbound calls
References: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+WM89ZXt7AsxzbC8O=tTY6O1RZBD0wTXYFen9MR2KjwbCbW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPi3R=0KC63+FVxHfrc5A1igsYCz0KVip0rot5Bm7VvMzo-L2w@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, that thought did occur to me. Thanks for the suggestion. Not a bad
idea. Although if I can easily block inbound VoIP calls, that would still
be preferred.

On Thu Feb 12 2015 at 5:40:45 PM Bob Brown - W?NQX <bbrown at byrg.net> wrote:

> Why don't you disable it while your not in range.
>
> I use Putty to log in remotely to disable/re-enable it.
>
> That is what I do with my private home node where I don't have absolute
> physical control.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks in Advance
>
>    Bob Brown, W?NQX
>
>    Kansas City Metro Area
>
>    http://drsm0ke.net
>
>    http://byrg.net
>
>    http://sm0kenet.net
>
>    http://kcdstar.byrg.net
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Elden Fenison <w7ldn at w7ldn.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a little node in my garage that runs on a simplex frequency at 5
>> watts. The range is probably a mile or two. This node was intended strictly
>> for my own use. I use a HT to talk to it while I'm at home.
>>
>> In thinking of the legal (FCC) ramifications of running a node... it
>> seems I'm at risk. If anyone dials into the node via VoIP on either
>> Echolink or Allstar... they will essentially be transmitting from my node
>> radio. I do believe I need to be in control of the node (my station) at all
>> times per FCC rules. Well, obviously if I'm at work and out of range, I
>> can't be monitoring my node for illegal transmissions.
>>
>> I can't be the first one with this question. I think denying all inbound
>> VoIP calls might make this somewhat more safe. I know how to deny inbound
>> Echolink calls via the deny statement.
>>
>> But how do I deny inbound Allstar calls? Do I just make my node private?
>> And how does one do that? Do I just comment out the "register" statement in
>> iax.conf?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
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From gregerk at centurytel.net  Fri Feb 13 04:24:31 2015
From: gregerk at centurytel.net (Greg)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 20:24:31 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] denying inbound calls
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3467.1423800181.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.3467.1423800181.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54DD7C7F.9020903@centurytel.net>


On 02/12/2015 08:03 PM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> denying inbound calls

An inexpensive 15 watt dummy load on my 5 watt node radio provides good 
handheld coverage around the house without having to worry about 
legalities. An in-line antenna switch allows me to switch from the dummy 
load to a roof-top antenna for the few times when more range is needed.

73

Greg
WB7UBC



From w7ldn at w7ldn.com  Fri Feb 13 04:28:35 2015
From: w7ldn at w7ldn.com (Elden Fenison)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 04:28:35 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] denying inbound calls
References: <CAPi3R=1kfF+nXFs43c0bZj=gBPWPTxEmyJZWD5fyshbWuMCcgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5C100C41-1575-41C9-BCD8-4C14989B3197@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAPi3R=2OV89YduB6729M0u6XX_Fd4MS_VkcBPEGmfdu6qiCM0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Robert, that will work great. Just what I was after.

On Thu Feb 12 2015 at 7:12:06 PM Robert A. Poff <wb3awj at comcast.net> wrote:

> Command cop 49 will deny all incoming connections. Both Allstar and
> Echolink.
>
> In rpt.conf inside the functions stanza, assign it to a DTMF code of your
> liking.
> For example, "69=COP,49" . Then in the node stanza add "startup_macro=*69".
>
> When your restart, the macro will execute and set the node deny incoming
> connections.
>
> No need to do the "deny=" in echolink.conf.
>
> Personally, I'd also add a function with COP,50 should you want to enable
> incoming on the fly.
>
>
>
> On February 12, 2015 7:37:09 PM EST, Elden Fenison <w7ldn at w7ldn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a little node in my garage that runs on a simplex frequency at 5
>> watts. The range is probably a mile or two. This node was intended strictly
>> for my own use. I use a HT to talk to it while I'm at home.
>>
>> In thinking of the legal (FCC) ramifications of running a node... it
>> seems I'm at risk. If anyone dials into the node via VoIP on either
>> Echolink or Allstar... they will essentially be transmitting from my node
>> radio. I do believe I need to be in control of the node (my station) at all
>> times per FCC rules. Well, obviously if I'm at work and out of range, I
>> can't be monitoring my node for illegal transmissions.
>>
>> I can't be the first one with this question. I think denying all inbound
>> VoIP calls might make this somewhat more safe. I know how to deny inbound
>> Echolink calls via the deny statement.
>>
>> But how do I deny inbound Allstar calls? Do I just make my node privat e?
>> And how does one do that? Do I just comment out the "register" statement in
>> iax.conf?
>>
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>>
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From w7ldn at w7ldn.com  Fri Feb 13 04:31:06 2015
From: w7ldn at w7ldn.com (Elden Fenison)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 04:31:06 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] denying inbound calls
References: <mailman.3467.1423800181.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
	<54DD7C7F.9020903@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <CAPi3R=0Z=Es5p+SZjLS7+3_XPyBZ3Qp-QP318YdvuLYg3trtGQ@mail.gmail.com>

I had toyed with the idea of an attenuator, but those are pretty expensive.
I might give the dummy load a try. Thanks for the tip. Sounds like a good
way to go for me regardless.

On Thu Feb 12 2015 at 8:24:43 PM Greg <gregerk at centurytel.net> wrote:

>
> On 02/12/2015 08:03 PM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> > denying inbound calls
>
> An inexpensive 15 watt dummy load on my 5 watt node radio provides good
> handheld coverage around the house without having to worry about
> legalities. An in-line antenna switch allows me to switch from the dummy
> load to a roof-top antenna for the few times when more range is needed.
>
> 73
>
> Greg
> WB7UBC
>
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From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Fri Feb 13 11:59:49 2015
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 06:59:49 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] *Please Reply* Are the O'l Digium FXS or FXO pci
	cards Supported?
Message-ID: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527B51C97C572@X2.michiganbb.local>

Or will they work?

I remember reading they worked on old  versions of apt_rpt

I also figure they may be a better option than USB but relatively rare/expensive.
I was just given a bag of them and was wondering if they'd be useful on Acid and what's going on now.

Thanks!



Steve Gladden

Michigan Broadband Systems
Connecting Your Business!

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From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Fri Feb 13 12:09:09 2015
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:09:09 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] No responses?
In-Reply-To: <54D3A54B.9050208@gmail.com>
References: <000a01d04166$55b06e80$01114b80$@thebghouse.org>
	<54D3A54B.9050208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527B51C97C573@X2.michiganbb.local>

Thanks!
I too was just wondering.
I posted a pretty direct question 3 times in a month: "Are the O'l Digium FXS or FXO pci cards Supported?"
And absolutely no response not ack. No anything.
No problem I figure maybe nobody is sure what I'm talking about or something it just wasn't noticed or something.
I don't want to be an irritant and ask too often either.
I also have the capability to get off my butt and give it a try and then come back here and ask with more data in hand which usually gets far more attention and is more interesting for all involved.
I've not been active here in a long time so I also am not exactly sure what's going on out here.
I'm very interested in seeing what's new and getting on the air with this again soon!



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From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Grimard
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:16 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] No responses?

no birton

you post are making it here ok.

sometimes we do not have an answer to give and for me it is best not to chime
in when i do not have an answer for you.

ken n1dot



On 2/5/2015 5:07 PM, Birton wrote:
Hi,

Over the years I've used the information several times to help me setup / solve asterisk things. So I see a great deal of value in this dialog. Thanks.

On the other hand, I don't receive comments or suggestions to things I ask directly. So my question is, do I need to be a paying member for others to see or respond to my personal posting?

Or, maybe the questions I ask are so strange that there are no answers / suggestion - LOL

Thanks,
Birton





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From steve at michiganbroadband.com  Fri Feb 13 12:09:09 2015
From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:09:09 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] No responses?
In-Reply-To: <54D3A54B.9050208@gmail.com>
References: <000a01d04166$55b06e80$01114b80$@thebghouse.org>
	<54D3A54B.9050208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527B51C97C573@X2.michiganbb.local>

Thanks!
I too was just wondering.
I posted a pretty direct question 3 times in a month: "Are the O'l Digium FXS or FXO pci cards Supported?"
And absolutely no response not ack. No anything.
No problem I figure maybe nobody is sure what I'm talking about or something it just wasn't noticed or something.
I don't want to be an irritant and ask too often either.
I also have the capability to get off my butt and give it a try and then come back here and ask with more data in hand which usually gets far more attention and is more interesting for all involved.
I've not been active here in a long time so I also am not exactly sure what's going on out here.
I'm very interested in seeing what's new and getting on the air with this again soon!



Steve Gladden

Michigan Broadband Systems
Connecting Your Business!

[cid:image001.png at 01D0475B.792617C0]

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From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Grimard
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:16 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] No responses?

no birton

you post are making it here ok.

sometimes we do not have an answer to give and for me it is best not to chime
in when i do not have an answer for you.

ken n1dot



On 2/5/2015 5:07 PM, Birton wrote:
Hi,

Over the years I've used the information several times to help me setup / solve asterisk things. So I see a great deal of value in this dialog. Thanks.

On the other hand, I don't receive comments or suggestions to things I ask directly. So my question is, do I need to be a paying member for others to see or respond to my personal posting?

Or, maybe the questions I ask are so strange that there are no answers / suggestion - LOL

Thanks,
Birton





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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Feb 13 12:30:29 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:30:29 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 72, Issue 43
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3484.1423828794.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.3484.1423828794.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54DDEE65.1030000@msgstor.com>

Steve,
I doubt support has been removed. As you can well guess, most people in 
this list are not using them.
Jim would be the best to answer, but since he has not, I think he is 
unavailable.

Your best bet at this point is to give them a try. Look in the dahdi 
modules file and see if there is something close.
I would say Google is your friend in this endeavor. If not send them to 
me, I'll give them a try. :)

73, Steve N4IRS

On 2/13/2015 6:59 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 06:59:49 -0500
> From: Steve Gladden<steve at michiganbroadband.com>
> To:"'app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org'"  <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users]*Please Reply*  Are the O'l Digium FXS or FXO
> 	pci	cards Supported?
> Message-ID:
> 	<FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527B51C97C572 at X2.michiganbb.local>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Or will they work?
>
> I remember reading they worked on old  versions of apt_rpt
>
> I also figure they may be a better option than USB but relatively rare/expensive.
> I was just given a bag of them and was wondering if they'd be useful on Acid and what's going on now.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Steve Gladden
>
> Michigan Broadband Systems
> Connecting Your Business!

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From buddy at brannan.name  Fri Feb 13 13:06:09 2015
From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:06:09 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Disabling Autopatch Access From the Phone Portal
Message-ID: <D3067CF2-39FC-46AF-B6D2-1BAA6BF37931@brannan.name>

A follow-up on that.

It?s a bunch easier than I was making it, and I feel pretty stupid for missing how to handle it. 

By setting up a separate phone_functions stanza with the autopatch commands undefined, voila, presto, no auto patch from the phone portal, though it still works from the RF side. I don?t know how the web transceiver is affected by this, however. 

? 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194 
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy at brannan.name





From petem001 at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 13 14:31:56 2015
From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:31:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey
In-Reply-To: <624499D1B9A74E7F83F2126068BDA118@delllaptop>
References: <3C5CEC19DE6C445FB1E55EFAA6D4AC34@delllaptop>	<CAMbt3duvt2ueEh-7dFLF=-peL4T9p=vr2nTohXKMnhAbCLKM8A@mail.gmail.com><F4DE5C90940D43BD8D5E40227239B449@delllaptop><WM!6f0f4954aa93b2731dac5d38ab5df76dbc233826758a367e075f5453e739b3af3be9b4293e7b900fc4245f5da3d10f15!@asav-3.01.com><54D803CD.5090708@bryanfields.net>
	<624499D1B9A74E7F83F2126068BDA118@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <BAY176-DS19D23116CBEA9E3BB0DB0597230@phx.gbl>

On a VPS the kernel is shared on all the virtual machine, now If you want to 
run app_rpt. would it need some special kernel module loaded up?

I did try to install it on a vps that I rent. Never been able to do so..



-----Message d'origine----- 
From: Wayne
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 8:18 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey

That's the plan. RTCM's at 2-3 sites. This will be a hub at my home until
moving to an even larger/faster machine at my companies data center. I'm not
sure how all of the pieces fit yet but I want to give back in some way as
well. A dual processor AMD with twin drives on RAID is planned because,
well, I have a spare one. It remains my hope to actually get this into a
VPS.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bryan Fields
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:48 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitable PC For Limey

On 2/8/15, 7:44 PM, Wayne wrote:
> Awesome! That means that we can get the RTCM online and going from there.
> Thanks Andrew. I appreciate you taking time to answer.

If you're using RTCM's, a PIII 800 will be overkill ;)

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Fri Feb 13 15:44:12 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 07:44:12 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf
Message-ID: <C17952FF51C14D6FA465F623AAF89792@delllaptop>

Are these files in the ACID distro or obtained elsewhere? We are voting but will be simulcasting. Once we have the files how are they installed?
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 13 17:03:34 2015
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:03:34 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] *Please Reply* Are the O'l Digium FXS or FXO
 pci cards Supported?
In-Reply-To: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527B51C97C572@X2.michiganbb.local>
References: <FEFD25773376F6448FE2884F5C1FA527B51C97C572@X2.michiganbb.local>
Message-ID: <BLU180-W189973806D12A16FA7689AB1230@phx.gbl>

yes, nothing has changed

From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 06:59:49 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] *Please Reply* Are the O'l Digium FXS or FXO pci	cards Supported?

Or will they work? I remember reading they worked on old  versions of apt_rpt I also figure they may be a better option than USB but relatively rare/expensive.
I was just given a bag of them and was wondering if they?d be useful on Acid and what?s going on now.

Thanks!   Steve Gladden Michigan Broadband SystemsConnecting Your Business! 

+1 734.527.7150 Direct
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From ke6pcv at cal-net.org  Fri Feb 13 17:25:22 2015
From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:25:22 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Timeout Settings
Message-ID: <008a01d047b2$0c25f7b0$2471e710$@org>

Is there configuration PTT timeout setting built into the RTCM? 

We have an RTCM that was setup for a friend in Idaho to connect back to our system, the other
night it was timing out after two minutes and disconnecting

when we were playing AR Newline.  I looked in the RTCM manual and did not really see anything
that jumped out at me.

Maybe this is setting that can be changed in the configuration file of the server??? 

I am not sure where to look.

 

Thanks 

 

Marshall - ke6pcv 

 

 

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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Fri Feb 13 18:01:05 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:01:05 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf
In-Reply-To: <C17952FF51C14D6FA465F623AAF89792@delllaptop>
References: <C17952FF51C14D6FA465F623AAF89792@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <47FF294C445D4DC095F70C799125E39A@delllaptop>

I erred when I wrote that we are voting. We are NOT voting but plan to simulcast. We?ve been told that we need to sync the repeaters with GPS, which suggests that we should just vote anyway.

But we still need the files chan_voter and voter.conf thaat we are unable to locate.

From: Wayne 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 7:44 AM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf

Are these files in the ACID distro or obtained elsewhere? We are voting but will be simulcasting. Once we have the files how are they installed?


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From doug at crompton.com  Fri Feb 13 21:15:17 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:15:17 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>

One of the big advantages of Allstar is the ability to connect any number of groups or individuals together at will. This generally solves a lot of the political problems which exist in other voip systems like IRLP where reflectors are "owned" by an individual and become like repeaters where not everyone is always welcome and constraints are put on use. You have two choices, connect to a single other node or a reflector.

But Allstar's ability to allow infinite connections can also lead to problems. There seems to be a mentality among a few that the more nodes we can connect together the better. Some people like pileups, the WAN system is an example. For day to day use I am not sure what "wide area" buys you. I prefer a group of people that generally know each other with a few others popping in from time to time. If you like this approach then start your own mini hub and get your friends or other local nodes to connect to one place and as time goes on your will establish a group. The nodes could be local to you or anywhere in the world. Once people realize it is a nice place to meet it will grow. It you don't generally advertise it you won't get a lot of additional connections beyond the group you establish. 

In the Philadelphia area we have established a nice local group of nodes which cover a fairly large area and since a prime vacation area for Philly residents is the Jersey shore we cover that area also. In addition there are several out of state nodes that connect in. There are also many nets that take place daily. The Alaska Morning Net is an example. We carry that one day a week for an hour but it is your option how you would connect to other places. Net connections could be setup to connect automatically at a designated time. I have been giving talks to local clubs and just about all the nodes connected to my Philly hub are new within the last year. Business has picked up especially with the advent of the BBB. Maybe you can get more users online in your area. 

If you take this approach after awhile most everyone knows each other and it becomes a nice group, somewhat like a club repeater would operate. Educate you users to NOT connect the local hub to the WAN system or any other large network. We had a problem with that for awhile but once the users understand this is not IRLP and you can connect to multiple places they disconnect from the wide networks before connecting to the local hub.
   73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:00:13 -0700
From: electricity440 at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff

The win system and the wan system are both great systems because of the sheer coverage, but during pileups, it might be hard to say hi to your friend across the country. And then theres so many random keyups like on the WIN system for example. On thanksgiving, I there was like 100 short keyups in a row without ID. 
What is the best compromise between a wide coverage, and the amount of traffic on the system?
-- 
Skyler Fennellamsatnet.infoKD?WHBelectricity440 at gmail.com


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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Sat Feb 14 00:01:59 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:01:59 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Timeout Settings
In-Reply-To: <008a01d047b2$0c25f7b0$2471e710$@org>
References: <008a01d047b2$0c25f7b0$2471e710$@org>
Message-ID: <6B9FF337-1B96-4BFE-A17E-90699F7354BD@mac.com>

There is no timeout timer in the RTCM. Timeouts happens just like do with other app_rpt peripherals, in the rpt.conf setting. 

The exception is duplex=3 will have no timeout at all because the repeat path is through the RTCM (bypassing app_rpt).
--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 13, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Marshall Oldham <ke6pcv at cal-net.org> wrote:
> 
> Is there configuration PTT timeout setting built into the RTCM? 
> We have an RTCM that was setup for a friend in Idaho to connect back to our system, the other night it was timing out after two minutes and disconnecting
> when we were playing AR Newline.  I looked in the RTCM manual and did not really see anything that jumped out at me.
> Maybe this is setting that can be changed in the configuration file of the server??? 
> I am not sure where to look.
>  
> Thanks 
>  
> Marshall - ke6pcv 
>  
>  
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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Sat Feb 14 00:31:10 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:31:10 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf
In-Reply-To: <47FF294C445D4DC095F70C799125E39A@delllaptop>
References: <C17952FF51C14D6FA465F623AAF89792@delllaptop>
	<47FF294C445D4DC095F70C799125E39A@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <606C2C44-D5E6-4508-B9AE-D55833176A37@mac.com>

Chan_voter is in ACID by default. Docs for voter.conf are on the micro-node.com web site. 
--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Wayne <wayne at anywherehost.net> wrote:
> 
> I erred when I wrote that we are voting. We are NOT voting but plan to simulcast. We?ve been told that we need to sync the repeaters with GPS, which suggests that we should just vote anyway.
>  
> But we still need the files chan_voter and voter.conf thaat we are unable to locate.
>  
> From: Wayne <mailto:wayne at anywherehost.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf
>  
> Are these files in the ACID distro or obtained elsewhere? We are voting but will be simulcasting. Once we have the files how are they installed?
> 
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Sat Feb 14 00:49:10 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:49:10 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf
In-Reply-To: <606C2C44-D5E6-4508-B9AE-D55833176A37@mac.com>
References: <C17952FF51C14D6FA465F623AAF89792@delllaptop><47FF294C445D4DC095F70C799125E39A@delllaptop>
	<606C2C44-D5E6-4508-B9AE-D55833176A37@mac.com>
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Will have to look again. Didn?t find it. Thank you!!!!

From: Tim Sawyer 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 4:31 PM
To: Wayne 
Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf

Chan_voter is in ACID by default. Docs for voter.conf are on the micro-node.com web site. 

--
Tim
:wq

  On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Wayne <wayne at anywherehost.net> wrote:

  I erred when I wrote that we are voting. We are NOT voting but plan to simulcast. We?ve been told that we need to sync the repeaters with GPS, which suggests that we should just vote anyway.

  But we still need the files chan_voter and voter.conf thaat we are unable to locate.

  From: Wayne 
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 7:44 AM
  To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
  Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf

  Are these files in the ACID distro or obtained elsewhere? We are voting but will be simulcasting. Once we have the files how are they installed?


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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 14 01:05:08 2015
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:05:08 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf
In-Reply-To: <3E60703C7504474B9A60A1C5ACBA9C69@delllaptop>
References: <C17952FF51C14D6FA465F623AAF89792@delllaptop><47FF294C445D4DC095F70C799125E39A@delllaptop>,
	<606C2C44-D5E6-4508-B9AE-D55833176A37@mac.com>,
	<3E60703C7504474B9A60A1C5ACBA9C69@delllaptop>
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try:

http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf

From: wayne at anywherehost.net
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:49:10 -0800
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And voter.conf






Will have to look again. Didn?t find it. Thank you!!!!


 

From: Tim Sawyer 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 4:31 PM
To: Wayne 
Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And 
voter.conf
 
Chan_voter 
is in ACID by default. Docs for voter.conf are on the micro-node.com web site. 


--
Tim
:wq
 


  On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Wayne <wayne at anywherehost.net> 
  wrote:
   
  
  
  
  
  I erred when I wrote that we are voting. We are NOT voting but plan to 
  simulcast. We?ve been told that we need to sync the repeaters with GPS, which 
  suggests that we should just vote anyway.
   
  But we still need the files chan_voter and voter.conf thaat we are unable 
  to locate.
  
  
   
  
  From: Wayne 
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 7:44 AM
  To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
  Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM missing chan_voter And 
  voter.conf
   
  
  
  
  Are these files in the ACID distro or obtained elsewhere? We are voting 
  but will be simulcasting. Once we have the files how are they 
  installed?
   
  
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From kuggie at kuggie.com  Sat Feb 14 01:40:38 2015
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:40:38 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>
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On 2/13/2015 4:15 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> But Allstar's ability to allow infinite connections can also lead to 
> problems. There seems to be a mentality among a few that the more 
> nodes we can connect together the better.

What's wrong with connecting lots of nodes together?

> Some people like pileups, the WAN system is an example. For day to day 
> use I am not sure what "wide area" buys you.

The ability to constantly test and stress your system and make sure its 
ready (really ready) for an emergency that may consume the system for 
hours or days on end.  Before I got involved in AllStar linking, many of 
the repeaters I own (about 25) went unused.  I lost interest and if 
there were a emergency I couldn't have told you what worked and what 
didn't.  Sure, systems like WIN and WAN are busy and take out a lot of 
PA's, but we know all the time what works and what doesn't.  At least I 
could tell the local 911 director what their immediate possibilities are.

It also buys you the ability to have diverse user base and attracts 
foreign connections that many people, especially new hams can talk DX 
without an HF radio.

>   Educate you users to NOT connect the local hub to the WAN system or 
> any other large network.

Say what?  WAN is an open system - why would you tell people that?


> We had a problem with that for awhile...

What exactly was the "problem"?

>
> *73 Doug
> WA3DSP*


*Kevin Custer - W3KKC*
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From mike at midnighteng.com  Sat Feb 14 01:49:16 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:49:16 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>
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	<BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>
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While I echo many of Doug's comments,

I would like to inject a perspective that wide-area continuous links
should have a target purpose in mind. Such as covering the stretch of a
interstate highway or to cover areas where there are little to no roads
...etc. A purpose.

To do it only to have some chatter on your machine is not necessarily a
wise move but to each his own. You would be much better off finding other
regional systems to make your own mini-wide-link for more chatter. Folks
closer to each other will have more in common and purpose of a everyday
link.

It has been obvious to me that when to many local systems are tied to a
linked group, it deters conversation rather than promote it. Folks are
afraid to have a simple chat on known wide systems. For what exact
reasons, I have not been able to figure out but it is there.

I think allstar wide-area links shine best when we do this for special
events like nets of a common interest. Linking only for the event and not
continuous everyday. I personally would like to see more of this type of
linking.
I have pledged one node to simply "tune-in" to nets happening on the
system. It is the most interesting way of connecting people and sharing
their ideas and keeping some fresh flavors of interest. Unfortunately, we
have so few amateur nets around to tune into.


...mike/kb8jnm


> One of the big advantages of Allstar is the ability to connect any number
> of groups or individuals together at will. This generally solves a lot of
> the political problems which exist in other voip systems like IRLP where
> reflectors are "owned" by an individual and become like repeaters where
> not everyone is always welcome and constraints are put on use. You have
> two choices, connect to a single other node or a reflector.
>
> But Allstar's ability to allow infinite connections can also lead to
> problems. There seems to be a mentality among a few that the more nodes we
> can connect together the better. Some people like pileups, the WAN system
> is an example. For day to day use I am not sure what "wide area" buys you.
> I prefer a group of people that generally know each other with a few
> others popping in from time to time. If you like this approach then start
> your own mini hub and get your friends or other local nodes to connect to
> one place and as time goes on your will establish a group. The nodes could
> be local to you or anywhere in the world. Once people realize it is a nice
> place to meet it will grow. It you don't generally advertise it you won't
> get a lot of additional connections beyond the group you establish.
>
> In the Philadelphia area we have established a nice local group of nodes
> which cover a fairly large area and since a prime vacation area for Philly
> residents is the Jersey shore we cover that area also. In addition there
> are several out of state nodes that connect in. There are also many nets
> that take place daily. The Alaska Morning Net is an example. We carry that
> one day a week for an hour but it is your option how you would connect to
> other places. Net connections could be setup to connect automatically at a
> designated time. I have been giving talks to local clubs and just about
> all the nodes connected to my Philly hub are new within the last year.
> Business has picked up especially with the advent of the BBB. Maybe you
> can get more users online in your area.
>
> If you take this approach after awhile most everyone knows each other and
> it becomes a nice group, somewhat like a club repeater would operate.
> Educate you users to NOT connect the local hub to the WAN system or any
> other large network. We had a problem with that for awhile but once the
> users understand this is not IRLP and you can connect to multiple places
> they disconnect from the wide networks before connecting to the local hub.
>    73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:00:13 -0700
> From: electricity440 at gmail.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
>
> The win system and the wan system are both great systems because of the
> sheer coverage, but during pileups, it might be hard to say hi to your
> friend across the country. And then theres so many random keyups like on
> the WIN system for example. On thanksgiving, I there was like 100 short
> keyups in a row without ID.
> What is the best compromise between a wide coverage, and the amount of
> traffic on the system?
> --
> Skyler Fennellamsatnet.infoKD?WHBelectricity440 at gmail.com
>
>
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From doug at crompton.com  Sat Feb 14 02:35:04 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:35:04 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>,
	<54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>

Educate you users to NOT connect
          the local hub to the WAN system or any other large network.
    
    

    Say what?  WAN is an open system - why would you tell people that?

    

    
       We had a problem with that for
          awhile...

        
    
    

    What exactly was the "problem"?

Kevin, Don't be so defensive! I did not say there was a problem with the WAN, what I was saying was when you have a local hub of users that are 24/7 connected together and one of them connects to a WAN simultaneously it can be a problem in that all of the sudden you have a very busy channel and the local have lost their ability to easily talk among each other. The exact problem the original poster pointed out.

To each his own. If you like massive connections they are out there for you. Just don't pollute the quieter smaller hubs with that if they don't want it. New users often make multiple connections not thinking that they are linking the world, thus you educate them. It is usually done unintentionally. 

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:40:38 -0500
From: kuggie at kuggie.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff


  
    
  
  
    On 2/13/2015 4:15 PM, Doug Crompton
      wrote:

    
    
      
      But Allstar's ability to allow
          infinite connections can also lead to problems. There seems to
          be a mentality among a few that the more nodes we can connect
          together the better.
    
    

    What's wrong with connecting lots of nodes together?  

    

    
       Some people like pileups, the WAN
          system is an example. For day to day use I am not sure what
          "wide area" buys you.
    
    

    The ability to constantly test and stress your system and make sure
    its ready (really ready) for an emergency that may consume the
    system for hours or days on end.  Before I got involved in AllStar
    linking, many of the repeaters I own (about 25) went unused.  I lost
    interest and if there were a emergency I couldn't have told you what
    worked and what didn't.  Sure, systems like WIN and WAN are busy and
    take out a lot of PA's, but we know all the time what works and what
    doesn't.  At least I could tell the local 911 director what their
    immediate possibilities are.  

    

    It also buys you the ability to have diverse user base and attracts
    foreign connections that many people, especially new hams can talk
    DX without an HF radio.  

    

    
        Educate you users to NOT connect
          the local hub to the WAN system or any other large network.
    
    

    Say what?  WAN is an open system - why would you tell people that?

    

    

    
       We had a problem with that for
          awhile...

        
    
    

    What exactly was the "problem"?

    

    
         
        73 Doug

          WA3DSP

      
    
    

    

    Kevin Custer - W3KKC

  


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From wb3awj at comcast.net  Sat Feb 14 03:45:38 2015
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 22:45:38 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>,
	<54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>
	<BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C372B69D-94FE-4BE1-B5C6-7B03B6E8F95C@comcast.net>

Then you have the situation like here in this county. Three Allstar repeaters, linked together, giving good hand held coverage around two counties. Nothing is heard on them for days or even weeks at a time. 

But, connect them to WAN for a couple hours one night... and the complaints start. "I'm not listening there, it's too busy" HUH? 

And I have one guy who constantly complains about how it sounds "like a pinball machine when they're all linked together" Again..... HUH? I haven't figured out what he's listening to (or smoking) but it's not our Allstar repeaters.

But "pile ups" on WAN? Really? Lately? As I've been listening, even on weekends, you may go hours without hearing anyone. And then maybe two guys show up. Soon one of them will inevitably say "Well, we better not tie up the system." and sign off. Back to the deafening silence.

It's all in the perception I suppose.



-- 
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From kuggie at kuggie.com  Sat Feb 14 06:53:22 2015
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:53:22 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>,
	<54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>
	<BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54DEF0E2.4060205@kuggie.com>

On 2/13/2015 9:35 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
>
> Kevin, Don't be so defensive! I did not say there was a problem with 
> the WAN....
>
> If you like massive connections they are out there for you. Just don't 
> pollute.....


You must think I'm some kind of fool.  In one breath you say there is 
nothing wrong, but in another you refer to the traffic on larger systems 
as pollution.

I own (or co own) more than half of the core connections that make up 
WAN.  If I choose to connect them all together (like I have with WAN) it 
can't help but to be massive.  I can't help that many others choose to 
connect to their systems to it.  After all it is (or is supposed to be) 
an open system.

I don't make snide comments about your simplex group, and I'll trust 
that you'll not make any more comments about mine.

Kevin - W3KKC
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From doug at crompton.com  Sat Feb 14 07:20:31 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:20:31 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <54DEF0E2.4060205@kuggie.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	, <BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>, ,
	<54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>,
	<BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>,
	<54DEF0E2.4060205@kuggie.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W13B93BBCF030625630AF57BA200@phx.gbl>

You are a fool and you just like to argue with me. Others understand what I am saying, obviously you don't!
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:53:22 -0500
From: kuggie at kuggie.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff


  
    
  
  
    On 2/13/2015 9:35 PM, Doug Crompton
      wrote:

    
    
      
      

        Kevin, Don't be so
          defensive! I did not say there was a problem with the WAN....

        

        If you like
          massive connections they are out there for you. Just don't
          pollute.....

      
    
    

    

    You must think I'm some kind of fool.  In one breath you say there
    is nothing wrong, but in another you refer to the traffic on larger
    systems as pollution.

    

    I own (or co own) more than half of the core connections that make
    up WAN.  If I choose to connect them all together (like I have with
    WAN) it can't help but to be massive.  I can't help that many others
    choose to connect to their systems to it.  After all it is (or is
    supposed to be) an open system.  

    

    I don't make snide comments about your simplex group, and I'll trust
    that you'll not make any more comments about mine.

    

    Kevin - W3KKC

  


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From kuggie at kuggie.com  Sat Feb 14 07:51:55 2015
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:51:55 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W13B93BBCF030625630AF57BA200@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	, <BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>, ,
	<54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>,
	<BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>,
	<54DEF0E2.4060205@kuggie.com>
	<BLU172-W13B93BBCF030625630AF57BA200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54DEFE9B.2080407@kuggie.com>

On 2/14/2015 2:20 AM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> You are a fool and you just like to argue with me.

I used to argue with you because I care about the quality of information 
surrounding this technology.  I have found that trying to educate you is 
a fruitless endeavor.  I concede.

> Others understand what I am saying, obviously you don't!

  I'm not putting words in your mouth Doug - you're the one flapping you 
gums.  You already run me off of your list - are you going to try to do 
the same here?

Kevin - W3KKC
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From doug at crompton.com  Sat Feb 14 08:37:16 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 03:37:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <54DEFE9B.2080407@kuggie.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	, , <BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>,
	, , <54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>, ,
	<BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>, ,
	<54DEF0E2.4060205@kuggie.com>,
	<BLU172-W13B93BBCF030625630AF57BA200@phx.gbl>,
	<54DEFE9B.2080407@kuggie.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W397D4B3260018FF90A2DF8BA200@phx.gbl>

Here's the problem. You don't comprehend what I write and you have a hard-on for whatever I say. If you go back and look at the thread others said somewhat detrimental things about your precious  WAN, I did not. All I said, and you should go back and read it carefully, was that we had trouble with people contecting our local hub to the WAN which was not desireable. I never said anything else. Then you start babbling about me taking you for a fool. What the heck is that about. I won't comment on this anymore. It is a waste of my time!! 
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:51:55 -0500
From: kuggie at kuggie.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff


  
    
  
  
    On 2/14/2015 2:20 AM, Doug Crompton
      wrote:

    
    
      
      You are a fool and you just like to
          argue with me. 
    
    

    I used to argue with you because I care about the quality of
    information surrounding this technology.  I have found that trying
    to educate you is a fruitless endeavor.  I concede.  

    

    
      Others understand what I am saying,
          obviously you don't!

      
    
    

     I'm not putting words in your mouth Doug - you're the one flapping
    you gums.  You already run me off of your list - are you going to
    try to do the same here?

    

    Kevin - W3KKC

  


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From w5jr.lists at gmail.com  Sat Feb 14 08:56:04 2015
From: w5jr.lists at gmail.com (Mike / W5JR)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 22:56:04 -1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
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	<BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>
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	<BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>
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Any chance you guys could take this off list so I don't have to bulk delete so many messages?

tnx
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From kuggie at kuggie.com  Sat Feb 14 20:00:15 2015
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:00:15 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W397D4B3260018FF90A2DF8BA200@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	, , <BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>, , ,
	<54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>, ,
	<BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>, ,
	<54DEF0E2.4060205@kuggie.com>,
	<BLU172-W13B93BBCF030625630AF57BA200@phx.gbl>,
	<54DEFE9B.2080407@kuggie.com>
	<BLU172-W397D4B3260018FF90A2DF8BA200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54DFA94F.1050701@kuggie.com>

On 2/14/2015 3:37 AM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> Here's the problem. You don't comprehend what I write and you have a 
> hard-on for whatever I say.

> Some people like pileups, the WAN system is an example. For day to day 
> use I am not sure what "wide area" buys you.
> Educate you users to NOT connect the local hub to the WAN system or 
> any other large network.
> Kevin, Don't be so defensive! I did not say there was a problem with 
> the WAN,
> Just don't pollute the quieter smaller hubs with that.
> You are a fool and you just like to argue with me. Others understand 
> what I am saying, obviously you don't!

It's coming through loud and clear. I comprehend everything you say.  I 
understand you don't like my system.    You think I shouldn't defend 
myself or my network after you go off jamming your opinions down 
everyone's throat.  Just because YOU don't like it doesn't make it bad 
or wrong.  This is no different than your view of the Raspberry PI.  If 
a solution doesn't come from you - it's no good.

Here's a clue.  Go back to your simplex world and leave us alone. I 
could care less if you like the WAN system, but next time be smart 
enough to keep your opinions to yourself.  And if you do make a sideways 
comments about another network, be ready, because most of us won't be 
pushed around by you and your spineless - thoughtless outbursts.

Kevin Custer









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From david at k0pwo.com  Sun Feb 15 00:01:24 2015
From: david at k0pwo.com (David Dean K0PWO)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:01:24 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Repeater Randomly Keys Up
Message-ID: <254BAE49-E674-4067-8073-4A0142DE76D3@k0pwo.com>

My repeater node continuously keys up for a second when my repeater node is linked to my hub node. When the repeater is in a stand alone condition (when its not linked to my hub node) it operates normally. 

Both nodes are connected locally (on the same network, behind the same firewall) but not on the same computer. I have set up some different settings on the radios that make up the repeater (its a maxtrac repeater). Any ideas where I might look? Has anyone else had this issue before? 

Thank you,

David

David Dean, K0PWO
Arapahoe County Colorado

(720) 350-203 cell

From szingman at msgstor.com  Sun Feb 15 02:14:55 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:14:55 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Online Archive
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3506.1423904165.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.3506.1423904165.369.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54E0011F.9020201@msgstor.com>

Is it me, or is the archive at ohnosec.org not updating?

73, Steve N4IRS


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> To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
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> On 2/13/2015 9:35 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
>>
>> Kevin, Don't be so defensive! I did not say there was a problem with
>> the WAN....
>>
>> If you like massive connections they are out there for you. Just don't
>> pollute.....
>
>
> You must think I'm some kind of fool.  In one breath you say there is
> nothing wrong, but in another you refer to the traffic on larger systems
> as pollution.
>
> I own (or co own) more than half of the core connections that make up
> WAN.  If I choose to connect them all together (like I have with WAN) it
> can't help but to be massive.  I can't help that many others choose to
> connect to their systems to it.  After all it is (or is supposed to be)
> an open system.
>
> I don't make snide comments about your simplex group, and I'll trust
> that you'll not make any more comments about mine.
>
> Kevin - W3KKC
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> From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
> To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
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> You are a fool and you just like to argue with me. Others understand what I am saying, obviously you don't!
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>
>
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:53:22 -0500
> From: kuggie at kuggie.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      On 2/13/2015 9:35 PM, Doug Crompton
>        wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>          Kevin, Don't be so
>            defensive! I did not say there was a problem with the WAN....
>
>
>
>          If you like
>            massive connections they are out there for you. Just don't
>            pollute.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      You must think I'm some kind of fool.  In one breath you say there
>      is nothing wrong, but in another you refer to the traffic on larger
>      systems as pollution.
>
>
>
>      I own (or co own) more than half of the core connections that make
>      up WAN.  If I choose to connect them all together (like I have with
>      WAN) it can't help but to be massive.  I can't help that many others
>      choose to connect to their systems to it.  After all it is (or is
>      supposed to be) an open system.
>
>
>
>      I don't make snide comments about your simplex group, and I'll trust
>      that you'll not make any more comments about mine.
>
>
>
>      Kevin - W3KKC
>
>
>
>
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> On 2/14/2015 2:20 AM, Doug Crompton wrote:
>> You are a fool and you just like to argue with me.
>
> I used to argue with you because I care about the quality of information
> surrounding this technology.  I have found that trying to educate you is
> a fruitless endeavor.  I concede.
>
>> Others understand what I am saying, obviously you don't!
>
>    I'm not putting words in your mouth Doug - you're the one flapping you
> gums.  You already run me off of your list - are you going to try to do
> the same here?
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> Kevin - W3KKC
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> From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
> To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
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> Here's the problem. You don't comprehend what I write and you have a hard-on for whatever I say. If you go back and look at the thread others said somewhat detrimental things about your precious  WAN, I did not. All I said, and you should go back and read it carefully, was that we had trouble with people contecting our local hub to the WAN which was not desireable. I never said anything else. Then you start babbling about me taking you for a fool. What the heck is that about. I won't comment on this anymore. It is a waste of my time!!
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>
>
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:51:55 -0500
> From: kuggie at kuggie.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      On 2/14/2015 2:20 AM, Doug Crompton
>        wrote:
>
>
>
>
>        You are a fool and you just like to
>            argue with me.
>
>
>
>      I used to argue with you because I care about the quality of
>      information surrounding this technology.  I have found that trying
>      to educate you is a fruitless endeavor.  I concede.
>
>
>
>
>        Others understand what I am saying,
>            obviously you don't!
>
>
>
>
>
>       I'm not putting words in your mouth Doug - you're the one flapping
>      you gums.  You already run me off of your list - are you going to
>      try to do the same here?
>
>
>
>      Kevin - W3KKC
>
>
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From n5zua at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 15 03:15:13 2015
From: n5zua at earthlink.net (Steve Agee)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:15:13 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Bizarre Issue
Message-ID: <54E00F41.4090507@earthlink.net>


Having worked with app_rpt for the past five years, I've run across most 
of the common issues that everyone else has. But every once in a while, 
I run across one that is so bizarre, I feel compelled to post it, so 
others might know about it. Such was the case yesterday.

I have a site with a cabinet with three repeaters in it. The two meter 
repeater was installed last as an app_rpt repeater from the beginning, 
and has never had any issues. The other two are 70 centimeter GE EXEC II 
mobiles, full duplexed, connected to an RLC-4 controller, with the other 
two ports being wire line interfaces. Since the wire line has been 
having intermittent issues lately, I wanted to move the two GE radios to 
URIs. I built two conversion cables, with a female DB-9 on one end (to 
accept DB-9 male from radio to RLC controller), and a male DB-25 on the 
other (to connect to the URI). This leaves the flexibility of going back 
to the RLC-4, without rewiring everything. So, I get to the site and 
plug everything in and I'm ready to set levels. But wait, whats this 
gawd awful loud crackling noise on the transmit audio of both GE radios? 
Is it present on the discriminator line of the receiver? No. Is it there 
when the DB-9 from the radio is unplugged from the DB-9 coming from the 
URI? No. Now things are getting narrowed down. How about swapping URIs 
since there are three in the cabinet? No difference. What about swapping 
USB cables? No change. But wait, plug the two meter repeater in to one 
of the two new URIs, and it now has crackle. What!? It turns out the USB 
hub on the computer motherboard is oscillating! This box had 3 hubs. 
Moving both of the GE radios to a new hub solved the issue. I have never 
run across this issue before, on the twenty-something number of boxes 
that I have either built myself, or helped others build. I may never run 
across it again either, but if I do, now I'll know where to look. By the 
way, that noisy hub ... it works fine. I plugged the keyboard in to it 
and used it without any issue whatsoever.

Many thanks to KE5PTZ for tirelessly tracking this issue down, and 
putting up with me pulling my hair out for hours on end while doing so!

N5ZUA



From kb3ors at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 17:18:48 2015
From: kb3ors at gmail.com (Brian Burton)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:18:48 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic trade off.
In-Reply-To: <CAM2T5-ERRDoBvBp==2q6Wmr5mthV8oHX-sYb8Dodr1otBYGUfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM2T5-EBA+VQf3GLb9D_dHBjHa0V3pptQW6LVs7oLp5zQ4i2Lw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM2T5-ERRDoBvBp==2q6Wmr5mthV8oHX-sYb8Dodr1otBYGUfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM2T5-G1nA2KfJ0kTupTa7eqww0fRxzxnADyZjORq4ZjxaU3jA@mail.gmail.com>

I kinda get what your saying Doug.  However Kevin had a mood point,  pick
your wording a little more to your point. Do not connect an individual user
node to WIN and WAN at the same time for multiple reasons. First is WIN and
WAN have a verbal agreement to not connect the 2 system together unless
done so by a COP for emergency reasons.
Secondly most residential nodes bandwidth will not handle the amount of
traffic. And last but not least the key part is educate your users. Post it
on your website your do and don'ts.
WAN is and always will be an open system. We have helped a lot of people
inside and outside the country setting up there nodes.  All-star I'm my
opinion is the best thing since sliced bread. When I first got into
all-star it would allow IRLP along with echolink. That is not the case
anymore. However I know there are nodes out there that can do those and
more connections, although frowned upon. I always thought of the HAM
community as friendly and helpful,  but with strings like this happening
not much help.  I hope we can all get past this horrible use of adjectives
and get back to the goal at hand.  BETTERING THE AMATEUR WORLD.
Everyone have a WAN-tastic day. And stay warm. -10 in north west PA this
morning.

AB3AA
WANRS TECH SUPPORT
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Wide area traffic tradeoff (Kevin Custer)
   2. Repeater Randomly Keys Up (David Dean K0PWO)
   3. Online Archive (Steve Zingman)
   4. Bizarre Issue (Steve Agee)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:00:15 -0500
From: Kevin Custer <kuggie at kuggie.com>
To: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>,  "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org"
        <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
Message-ID: <54DFA94F.1050701 at kuggie.com>
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On 2/14/2015 3:37 AM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> Here's the problem. You don't comprehend what I write and you have a
> hard-on for whatever I say.

> Some people like pileups, the WAN system is an example. For day to day
> use I am not sure what "wide area" buys you.
> Educate you users to NOT connect the local hub to the WAN system or
> any other large network.
> Kevin, Don't be so defensive! I did not say there was a problem with
> the WAN,
> Just don't pollute the quieter smaller hubs with that.
> You are a fool and you just like to argue with me. Others understand
> what I am saying, obviously you don't!

It's coming through loud and clear. I comprehend everything you say.  I
understand you don't like my system.    You think I shouldn't defend
myself or my network after you go off jamming your opinions down
everyone's throat.  Just because YOU don't like it doesn't make it bad
or wrong.  This is no different than your view of the Raspberry PI.  If
a solution doesn't come from you - it's no good.

Here's a clue.  Go back to your simplex world and leave us alone. I
could care less if you like the WAN system, but next time be smart
enough to keep your opinions to yourself.  And if you do make a sideways
comments about another network, be ready, because most of us won't be
pushed around by you and your spineless - thoughtless outbursts.

Kevin Custer









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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:01:24 -0700
From: David Dean K0PWO <david at k0pwo.com>
To: "App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Repeater Randomly Keys Up
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My repeater node continuously keys up for a second when my repeater node is
linked to my hub node. When the repeater is in a stand alone condition
(when its not linked to my hub node) it operates normally.

Both nodes are connected locally (on the same network, behind the same
firewall) but not on the same computer. I have set up some different
settings on the radios that make up the repeater (its a maxtrac repeater).
Any ideas where I might look? Has anyone else had this issue before?

Thank you,

David

David Dean, K0PWO
Arapahoe County Colorado

(720) 350-203 cell

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:14:55 -0500
From: Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Online Archive
Message-ID: <54E0011F.9020201 at msgstor.com>
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Is it me, or is the archive at ohnosec.org not updating?

73, Steve N4IRS


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> From: Kevin Custer <kuggie at kuggie.com>
> To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
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> On 2/13/2015 9:35 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
>>
>> Kevin, Don't be so defensive! I did not say there was a problem with
>> the WAN....
>>
>> If you like massive connections they are out there for you. Just don't
>> pollute.....
>
>
> You must think I'm some kind of fool.  In one breath you say there is
> nothing wrong, but in another you refer to the traffic on larger systems
> as pollution.
>
> I own (or co own) more than half of the core connections that make up
> WAN.  If I choose to connect them all together (like I have with WAN) it
> can't help but to be massive.  I can't help that many others choose to
> connect to their systems to it.  After all it is (or is supposed to be)
> an open system.
>
> I don't make snide comments about your simplex group, and I'll trust
> that you'll not make any more comments about mine.
>
> Kevin - W3KKC
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> You are a fool and you just like to argue with me. Others understand what
I am saying, obviously you don't!
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>
>
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:53:22 -0500
> From: kuggie at kuggie.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      On 2/13/2015 9:35 PM, Doug Crompton
>        wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>          Kevin, Don't be so
>            defensive! I did not say there was a problem with the WAN....
>
>
>
>          If you like
>            massive connections they are out there for you. Just don't
>            pollute.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      You must think I'm some kind of fool.  In one breath you say there
>      is nothing wrong, but in another you refer to the traffic on larger
>      systems as pollution.
>
>
>
>      I own (or co own) more than half of the core connections that make
>      up WAN.  If I choose to connect them all together (like I have with
>      WAN) it can't help but to be massive.  I can't help that many others
>      choose to connect to their systems to it.  After all it is (or is
>      supposed to be) an open system.
>
>
>
>      I don't make snide comments about your simplex group, and I'll trust
>      that you'll not make any more comments about mine.
>
>
>
>      Kevin - W3KKC
>
>
>
>
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> On 2/14/2015 2:20 AM, Doug Crompton wrote:
>> You are a fool and you just like to argue with me.
>
> I used to argue with you because I care about the quality of information
> surrounding this technology.  I have found that trying to educate you is
> a fruitless endeavor.  I concede.
>
>> Others understand what I am saying, obviously you don't!
>
>    I'm not putting words in your mouth Doug - you're the one flapping you
> gums.  You already run me off of your list - are you going to try to do
> the same here?
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> From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
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> Here's the problem. You don't comprehend what I write and you have a
hard-on for whatever I say. If you go back and look at the thread others
said somewhat detrimental things about your precious  WAN, I did not. All I
said, and you should go back and read it carefully, was that we had trouble
with people contecting our local hub to the WAN which was not desireable. I
never said anything else. Then you start babbling about me taking you for a
fool. What the heck is that about. I won't comment on this anymore. It is a
waste of my time!!
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>
>
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:51:55 -0500
> From: kuggie at kuggie.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      On 2/14/2015 2:20 AM, Doug Crompton
>        wrote:
>
>
>
>
>        You are a fool and you just like to
>            argue with me.
>
>
>
>      I used to argue with you because I care about the quality of
>      information surrounding this technology.  I have found that trying
>      to educate you is a fruitless endeavor.  I concede.
>
>
>
>
>        Others understand what I am saying,
>            obviously you don't!
>
>
>
>
>
>       I'm not putting words in your mouth Doug - you're the one flapping
>      you gums.  You already run me off of your list - are you going to
>      try to do the same here?
>
>
>
>      Kevin - W3KKC
>
>
>
>
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> Any chance you guys could take this off list so I don't have to bulk
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> tnx
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:15:13 -0600
From: Steve Agee <n5zua at earthlink.net>
To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Bizarre Issue
Message-ID: <54E00F41.4090507 at earthlink.net>
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Having worked with app_rpt for the past five years, I've run across most
of the common issues that everyone else has. But every once in a while,
I run across one that is so bizarre, I feel compelled to post it, so
others might know about it. Such was the case yesterday.

I have a site with a cabinet with three repeaters in it. The two meter
repeater was installed last as an app_rpt repeater from the beginning,
and has never had any issues. The other two are 70 centimeter GE EXEC II
mobiles, full duplexed, connected to an RLC-4 controller, with the other
two ports being wire line interfaces. Since the wire line has been
having intermittent issues lately, I wanted to move the two GE radios to
URIs. I built two conversion cables, with a female DB-9 on one end (to
accept DB-9 male from radio to RLC controller), and a male DB-25 on the
other (to connect to the URI). This leaves the flexibility of going back
to the RLC-4, without rewiring everything. So, I get to the site and
plug everything in and I'm ready to set levels. But wait, whats this
gawd awful loud crackling noise on the transmit audio of both GE radios?
Is it present on the discriminator line of the receiver? No. Is it there
when the DB-9 from the radio is unplugged from the DB-9 coming from the
URI? No. Now things are getting narrowed down. How about swapping URIs
since there are three in the cabinet? No difference. What about swapping
USB cables? No change. But wait, plug the two meter repeater in to one
of the two new URIs, and it now has crackle. What!? It turns out the USB
hub on the computer motherboard is oscillating! This box had 3 hubs.
Moving both of the GE radios to a new hub solved the issue. I have never
run across this issue before, on the twenty-something number of boxes
that I have either built myself, or helped others build. I may never run
across it again either, but if I do, now I'll know where to look. By the
way, that noisy hub ... it works fine. I plugged the keyboard in to it
and used it without any issue whatsoever.

Many thanks to KE5PTZ for tirelessly tracking this issue down, and
putting up with me pulling my hair out for hours on end while doing so!

N5ZUA



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From: steve at donegan.org (Steven Donegan)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:06:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
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Message-ID: <1703471334.6076484.1424023564536.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I have a simple (hopefully) question - if I link my node with 2 other nodes does it become a hub between the two or does the traffic from my node go out to the 2 other nodes and the traffic from those individual nodes come back to my node? If this is configurable behavior (to hub or not to hub) please do explain.
Thanks
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Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
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From doug at crompton.com  Sun Feb 15 18:45:47 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:45:47 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
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Steve,

 A hub is just a word we give to a node that has two or more nodes connected to it. Kind of a central connecting place. Other than that is has no real meaning in how things work. A hub could be a computer stashed somewhere with good Internet bandwidth if you intend to connect many other nodes to it. It does not need to have a radio connected to it but if you need to it could. You can be creative in how you connect things but anything that is connected together shares audio in both directions. In the case you mention you are correct in that all of you would hear and be able to talk to each other assuming you were in transceive mode (*3 connect) which is the most usual way. I suppose in the simplest definition of a hub, in your case you are the hub! Think of it as the hub of a wheel with spokes. Each spoke is a connection to another node. It gets more complicated than that though as each node you connect to could also be connected to multiple nodes. There is protection for loops. If you connect to somneone who in turn connects to someone else and that last person tries to connect back to you it will be rejected. 
I hope that answers your question.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:06:04 +0000
From: steve at donegan.org
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question

I have a simple (hopefully) question - if I link my node with 2 other nodes does it become a hub between the two or does the traffic from my node go out to the 2 other nodes and the traffic from those individual nodes come back to my node? If this is configurable behavior (to hub or not to hub) please do explain.
Thanks
____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

    
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From: steve at donegan.org (Steven Donegan)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:03:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
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Thank you Doug a nice succinct answer :-) Not the one I wanted to hear but totally understandable. Now to try and figure out how to connect to multiple nets without connecting them together :-)?____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

      From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
 To: Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org> 
Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
   
#yiv0421891944 #yiv0421891944 --.yiv0421891944hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv0421891944 body.yiv0421891944hmmessage{font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}#yiv0421891944 Steve,

?A hub is just a word we give to a node that has two or more nodes connected to it. Kind of a central connecting place. Other than that is has no real meaning in how things work. A hub could be a computer stashed somewhere with good Internet bandwidth if you intend to connect many other nodes to it. It does not need to have a radio connected to it but if you need to it could. You can be creative in how you connect things but anything that is connected together shares audio in both directions. In the case you mention you are correct in that all of you would hear and be able to talk to each other assuming you were in transceive mode (*3 connect) which is the most usual way. I suppose in the simplest definition of a hub, in your case you are the hub! Think of it as the hub of a wheel with spokes. Each spoke is a connection to another node. It gets more complicated than that though as each node you connect to could also be connected to multiple nodes. There is protection for loops. If you connect to somneone who in turn connects to someone else and that last person tries to connect back to you it will be rejected. 

I hope that answers your question.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:06:04 +0000
From: steve at donegan.org
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question



I have a simple (hopefully) question - if I link my node with 2 other nodes does it become a hub between the two or does the traffic from my node go out to the 2 other nodes and the traffic from those individual nodes come back to my node? If this is configurable behavior (to hub or not to hub) please do explain.
Thanks
____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

   
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From petem001 at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 15 22:54:42 2015
From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:54:42 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Bizarre Issue
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References: <54E00F41.4090507@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY176-W4902DBE47E186F1C12AEC297210@phx.gbl>

Got some kind of similar case.the audio of my system with 2 node on it was cracking out of no where, the only thing was a visit to the site for manitenance and a good look at the computer.. cleaning the fan, removing dust checking all connector..
the thing was that we left a usb to keypad/mouse ps2 adaptor plugged in. We usely remove it. this was not even connected to a KB or mouse. but it was puting stress on the USB hub inside the computer.. So could it be that something internal of the mother bord is connected inside the computer on that hub? I am thinking of card reader like SD card??
But thanks for the head up. will keep an eye on this ;-)




 

> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:15:13 -0600
> From: n5zua at earthlink.net
> To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Bizarre Issue
> 
> 
> Having worked with app_rpt for the past five years, I've run across most 
> of the common issues that everyone else has. But every once in a while, 
> I run across one that is so bizarre, I feel compelled to post it, so 
> others might know about it. Such was the case yesterday.
> 
> I have a site with a cabinet with three repeaters in it. The two meter 
> repeater was installed last as an app_rpt repeater from the beginning, 
> and has never had any issues. The other two are 70 centimeter GE EXEC II 
> mobiles, full duplexed, connected to an RLC-4 controller, with the other 
> two ports being wire line interfaces. Since the wire line has been 
> having intermittent issues lately, I wanted to move the two GE radios to 
> URIs. I built two conversion cables, with a female DB-9 on one end (to 
> accept DB-9 male from radio to RLC controller), and a male DB-25 on the 
> other (to connect to the URI). This leaves the flexibility of going back 
> to the RLC-4, without rewiring everything. So, I get to the site and 
> plug everything in and I'm ready to set levels. But wait, whats this 
> gawd awful loud crackling noise on the transmit audio of both GE radios? 
> Is it present on the discriminator line of the receiver? No. Is it there 
> when the DB-9 from the radio is unplugged from the DB-9 coming from the 
> URI? No. Now things are getting narrowed down. How about swapping URIs 
> since there are three in the cabinet? No difference. What about swapping 
> USB cables? No change. But wait, plug the two meter repeater in to one 
> of the two new URIs, and it now has crackle. What!? It turns out the USB 
> hub on the computer motherboard is oscillating! This box had 3 hubs. 
> Moving both of the GE radios to a new hub solved the issue. I have never 
> run across this issue before, on the twenty-something number of boxes 
> that I have either built myself, or helped others build. I may never run 
> across it again either, but if I do, now I'll know where to look. By the 
> way, that noisy hub ... it works fine. I plugged the keyboard in to it 
> and used it without any issue whatsoever.
> 
> Many thanks to KE5PTZ for tirelessly tracking this issue down, and 
> putting up with me pulling my hair out for hours on end while doing so!
> 
> N5ZUA
> 
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From petem001 at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 15 23:05:05 2015
From: petem001 at hotmail.com (pete M)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:05:05 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] registration server
Message-ID: <BAY176-W347F65366473A847B9E1AC97210@phx.gbl>

Hi!
there is a lot of repeater in the Quebec province that are now migrating to asterisk. (I know of about 10 to 15) 
Most of the sysop of those repeater dont want to connect to the allstar net cause of the language barrier. 
So they go on local net and they need to make all the programing for each new node on there system all the time..
What would it take, and is the code available to run there own registrtion server.
It is not that we dont like the allstar network.. ( for one have both my repeater on it and love it.)
but being french Canadian, we would like to have our own small registration server so when in need we could all link togheter more easily..

 		 	   		  
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From brett.friermood at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 23:30:52 2015
From: brett.friermood at gmail.com (Brett Friermood)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:30:52 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
In-Reply-To: <549771835.6144757.1424027002266.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU172-W9E60C13BA7986F1E64A77BA210@phx.gbl>
	<549771835.6144757.1424027002266.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADS0AtSD-FSnuiT6PJ3jZDRoeRmb1cCAUjUyTVfpmKy590L4uQ@mail.gmail.com>

Connecting in receive only (monitor mode - *2) can get you a long way
towards that. Some clever scripting can get you the rest of the way
while still having the ability to transmit on a select net.

Brett KQ9N


On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org> wrote:
> Thank you Doug a nice succinct answer :-) Not the one I wanted to hear but
> totally understandable. Now to try and figure out how to connect to multiple
> nets without connecting them together :-)


From doug at crompton.com  Sun Feb 15 23:47:32 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:47:32 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
In-Reply-To: <549771835.6144757.1424027002266.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU172-W9E60C13BA7986F1E64A77BA210@phx.gbl>,
	<549771835.6144757.1424027002266.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W2844706F60F1B5F8F2B056BA210@phx.gbl>

Steve,

 I am not exaclty sure what you want to do but I think you want to monitor and be able to talk on two nets with  them not being connected. If you connect to two nets from on node the two nets are going to be connected and hear each other. If you want to connect to and hear and talk on both nets independently you can create another node under your server. Then connect one node to one net and the other node to the other net. Of course you would need two radios, one connected to each node to monitor and talk but it would be independent. You also could create another server and node on another computer and do the same thing.

What I often do is have several nodes on a server. One node is connected to a radio and that node is considered my primary - where I stay connected or others stay connected to me. Then I use iaxrpt and connect to one of the other nodes on the server and from that node connect to some outside node. Unfortunately you can only have one instance of iaxrpt running per computer so of you wanted to monitor many places simultaneously you would need to open an instance in another computer.

You also do not need a radio locally if you build up a console. A small amplifier and mic. connected to a FOB could be setup to do that eliminating the radio.  
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:03:22 +0000
From: steve at donegan.org
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question

Thank you Doug a nice succinct answer :-) Not the one I wanted to hear but totally understandable. Now to try and figure out how to connect to multiple nets without connecting them together :-) ____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

        From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
 To: Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org> 
Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
   
Steve, A hub is just a word we give to a node that has two or more nodes connected to it. Kind of a central connecting place. Other than that is has no real meaning in how things work. A hub could be a computer stashed somewhere with good Internet bandwidth if you intend to connect many other nodes to it. It does not need to have a radio connected to it but if you need to it could. You can be creative in how you connect things but anything that is connected together shares audio in both directions. In the case you mention you are correct in that all of you would hear and be able to talk to each other assuming you were in transceive mode (*3 connect) which is the most usual way. I suppose in the simplest definition of a hub, in your case you are the hub! Think of it as the hub of a wheel with spokes. Each spoke is a connection to another node. It gets more complicated than that though as each node you connect to could also be connected to multiple nodes. There is protection for loops. If you connect to somneone who in turn connects to someone else and that last person tries to connect back to you it will be rejected. I hope that answers your question.73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradioDate: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:06:04 +0000From: steve at donegan.orgTo: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.orgSubject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question

I have a simple (hopefully) question - if I link my node with 2 other nodes does it become a hub between the two or does the traffic from my node go out to the 2 other nodes and the traffic from those individual nodes come back to my node? If this is configurable behavior (to hub or not to hub) please do explain.Thanks____________Steven DoneganKK6IVC FCC General Class LicenseSSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86www.sscc.us    _______________________________________________
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From steve at donegan.org  Sun Feb 15 23:50:44 2015
From: steve at donegan.org (Steven Donegan)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 23:50:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W2844706F60F1B5F8F2B056BA210@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU172-W2844706F60F1B5F8F2B056BA210@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1662480181.6357795.1424044244228.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Funny Doug, I was thinking about doing 2 nodes - or one node per external network I want to monitor/transmit on and doing just what you suggest with fobs :-) Thanks again!
?____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

      From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
 To: Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org> 
Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 3:47 PM
 Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
   
#yiv2582968956 #yiv2582968956 --.yiv2582968956hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv2582968956 body.yiv2582968956hmmessage{font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}#yiv2582968956 Steve,

?I am not exaclty sure what you want to do but I think you want to monitor and be able to talk on two nets with? them not being connected. If you connect to two nets from on node the two nets are going to be connected and hear each other. If you want to connect to and hear and talk on both nets independently you can create another node under your server. Then connect one node to one net and the other node to the other net. Of course you would need two radios, one connected to each node to monitor and talk but it would be independent. You also could create another server and node on another computer and do the same thing.

What I often do is have several nodes on a server. One node is connected to a radio and that node is considered my primary - where I stay connected or others stay connected to me. Then I use iaxrpt and connect to one of the other nodes on the server and from that node connect to some outside node. Unfortunately you can only have one instance of iaxrpt running per computer so of you wanted to monitor many places simultaneously you would need to open an instance in another computer.

You also do not need a radio locally if you build up a console. A small amplifier and mic. connected to a FOB could be setup to do that eliminating the radio.? 

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio




Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:03:22 +0000
From: steve at donegan.org
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question

Thank you Doug a nice succinct answer :-) Not the one I wanted to hear but totally understandable. Now to try and figure out how to connect to multiple nets without connecting them together :-)?____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

      From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
 To: Steven Donegan <steve at donegan.org> 
Cc: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question
   
#yiv2582968956 #yiv2582968956 --.yiv2582968956ExternalClass #yiv2582968956ecxyiv0421891944 body.yiv2582968956ecxyiv0421891944hmmessage {font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}#yiv2582968956 Steve,

?A hub is just a word we give to a node that has two or more nodes connected to it. Kind of a central connecting place. Other than that is has no real meaning in how things work. A hub could be a computer stashed somewhere with good Internet bandwidth if you intend to connect many other nodes to it. It does not need to have a radio connected to it but if you need to it could. You can be creative in how you connect things but anything that is connected together shares audio in both directions. In the case you mention you are correct in that all of you would hear and be able to talk to each other assuming you were in transceive mode (*3 connect) which is the most usual way. I suppose in the simplest definition of a hub, in your case you are the hub! Think of it as the hub of a wheel with spokes. Each spoke is a connection to another node. It gets more complicated than that though as each node you connect to could also be connected to multiple nodes. There is protection for loops. If you connect to somneone who in turn connects to someone else and that last person tries to connect back to you it will be rejected. 

I hope that answers your question.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:06:04 +0000
From: steve at donegan.org
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Basic Allstar repeater question



I have a simple (hopefully) question - if I link my node with 2 other nodes does it become a hub between the two or does the traffic from my node go out to the 2 other nodes and the traffic from those individual nodes come back to my node? If this is configurable behavior (to hub or not to hub) please do explain.
Thanks
____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

   
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From mike at midnighteng.com  Mon Feb 16 16:44:03 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:44:03 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Bizarre Issue
Message-ID: <d3f20db5ec45f6659ab9c6ee96a518ad.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


My experience has showed me that most problems like that were from some of
the following:

grounds that were suppose to be isolated (explicit) grounds chasing a
frame ground.

digital grounds that were not isolated.

or grounds that should have been frame grounds that were not (kinda
opposite of the above)

***
While I have seen some refer to them as ground loops, that name for it
does not always reflect what is really happening.
Audio paths in much of the older gear we use in repeaters, the audio
ground may not necessarily work correctly with a frame/power ground.

The originating problem is not necessarily in the connections/circuits you
see the error.

Just my observations over the years.

...mike/kb8jnm

> Got some kind of similar case.the audio of my system with 2 node on it was
> cracking out of no where, the only thing was a visit to the site for
> manitenance and a good look at the computer.. cleaning the fan, removing
> dust checking all connector..
> the thing was that we left a usb to keypad/mouse ps2 adaptor plugged in.
> We usely remove it. this was not even connected to a KB or mouse. but it
> was puting stress on the USB hub inside the computer.. So could it be that
> something internal of the mother bord is connected inside the computer on
> that hub? I am thinking of card reader like SD card??
> But thanks for the head up. will keep an eye on this ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:15:13 -0600
>> From: n5zua at earthlink.net
>> To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Bizarre Issue
>>
>>
>> Having worked with app_rpt for the past five years, I've run across most
>> of the common issues that everyone else has. But every once in a while,
>> I run across one that is so bizarre, I feel compelled to post it, so
>> others might know about it. Such was the case yesterday.
>>
>> I have a site with a cabinet with three repeaters in it. The two meter
>> repeater was installed last as an app_rpt repeater from the beginning,
>> and has never had any issues. The other two are 70 centimeter GE EXEC II
>> mobiles, full duplexed, connected to an RLC-4 controller, with the other
>> two ports being wire line interfaces. Since the wire line has been
>> having intermittent issues lately, I wanted to move the two GE radios to
>> URIs. I built two conversion cables, with a female DB-9 on one end (to
>> accept DB-9 male from radio to RLC controller), and a male DB-25 on the
>> other (to connect to the URI). This leaves the flexibility of going back
>> to the RLC-4, without rewiring everything. So, I get to the site and
>> plug everything in and I'm ready to set levels. But wait, whats this
>> gawd awful loud crackling noise on the transmit audio of both GE radios?
>> Is it present on the discriminator line of the receiver? No. Is it there
>> when the DB-9 from the radio is unplugged from the DB-9 coming from the
>> URI? No. Now things are getting narrowed down. How about swapping URIs
>> since there are three in the cabinet? No difference. What about swapping
>> USB cables? No change. But wait, plug the two meter repeater in to one
>> of the two new URIs, and it now has crackle. What!? It turns out the USB
>> hub on the computer motherboard is oscillating! This box had 3 hubs.
>> Moving both of the GE radios to a new hub solved the issue. I have never
>> run across this issue before, on the twenty-something number of boxes
>> that I have either built myself, or helped others build. I may never run
>> across it again either, but if I do, now I'll know where to look. By the
>> way, that noisy hub ... it works fine. I plugged the keyboard in to it
>> and used it without any issue whatsoever.
>>
>> Many thanks to KE5PTZ for tirelessly tracking this issue down, and
>> putting up with me pulling my hair out for hours on end while doing so!
>>
>> N5ZUA
>>
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From ke6pcv at cal-net.org  Mon Feb 16 19:39:07 2015
From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:39:07 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Troubleshooting Questions
Message-ID: <023e01d04a20$3abce050$b036a0f0$@org>

Greetings, 

 

I need some help or suggestions on a few issues that I am having with a current RTCM setup.

 

I have an RTCM that is setup for a friend in Idaho to connect back to my repeater system using
a simplex radio and a RTCM.

The hardware includes an RTCM connected to a Yaesu radio via the packet radio port. 

The audio levels and squelch settings were previously set using a service monitor at my house
and all appeared to working fine from the various tests conducted with the radio connected to a
dummy load. 

He then transported the RTCM and radio to his place in Idaho and plugged it into his home
internet connection.

Everything appears to be working fine with the exception of few issue that come up everyone in
while. 

 

Sometimes when he is talking, his audio will drop out and his simplex node will go into
transmit on his side for no apparent reason. 

 

Sometime when there is no activity on either side of the connection his transmitter will key up
for a brief time then drop.

(He has checked the his receiver input for signals and none are present.)

 

Any Ideas on how to trouble shoot this? 

  

Thanks 

 

Marshall - ke6pcv 

 

 

 

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From sam.nabkey at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 20:04:16 2015
From: sam.nabkey at gmail.com (Sam Nabkey)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:04:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Troubleshooting Questions
In-Reply-To: <023e01d04a20$3abce050$b036a0f0$@org>
References: <023e01d04a20$3abce050$b036a0f0$@org>
Message-ID: <CAO8AawrCfKCVPUcGyoGcNqA2=pbkGOZ8Hh9gJU3xDWNYACxrsg@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if the net connection is dropping out.. That would key up and play
whatever is in the Off Line section for connection lost ID if it's blank...
Then you will get a small key up for no apparent reason..



On Feb 16, 2015 2:39 PM, "Marshall Oldham" <ke6pcv at cal-net.org> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>
>
> I need some help or suggestions on a few issues that I am having with a
> current RTCM setup.
>
>
>
> I have an RTCM that is setup for a friend in Idaho to connect back to my
> repeater system using a simplex radio and a RTCM.
>
> The hardware includes an RTCM connected to a Yaesu radio via the packet
> radio port.
>
> The audio levels and squelch settings were previously set using a service
> monitor at my house and all appeared to working fine from the various tests
> conducted with the radio connected to a dummy load.
>
> He then transported the RTCM and radio to his place in Idaho and plugged
> it into his home internet connection.
>
> Everything appears to be working fine with the exception of few issue that
> come up everyone in while.
>
>
>
> Sometimes when he is talking, his audio will drop out and his simplex node
> will go into transmit on his side for no apparent reason.
>
>
>
> Sometime when there is no activity on either side of the connection his
> transmitter will key up for a brief time then drop.
>
> (He has checked the his receiver input for signals and none are present.)
>
>
>
> Any Ideas on how to trouble shoot this?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Marshall - ke6pcv
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 01:45:18 2015
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:45:18 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W13B93BBCF030625630AF57BA200@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT0_Sp5jB9ZeDNmh10Cc9zOuw8iVaECAw_9PfJHKtH2ROLQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	, <BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl>, ,
	<54DEA796.1080905@kuggie.com>,
	<BLU172-W48C562A2856EA088FA2EEABA200@phx.gbl>,
	<54DEF0E2.4060205@kuggie.com>
	<BLU172-W13B93BBCF030625630AF57BA200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54E29D2E.6050801@gmail.com>


On 02/14/2015 01:20 AM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> You are a fool and you just like to argue with me. Others understand
> what I am saying, obviously you don't!

Let's cut the name calling, shall we?

It's HIS system, and he is able to do with it, as he sees fit.

Just because it doesn't fit in with YOUR way of thinking, Doug, does NOT
mean that it's wrong!

Just because you don't run your system the way Kevin does, does not mean
-you- are wrong, either.

Now, the BOTH of you, go back into your corners and play nice, or
someone will put you two in Time-Out!
;-)

Seriously... why can't we all just get along?

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From horsezip at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 17 17:30:35 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:30:35 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] web transcicer on a mac
Message-ID: <b8u6eah7d13ifgaruqc99al2r07m544tj7@4ax.com>

is there a way to webtransciver with a mac i have friend with a mac
jimmy


From steve at donegan.org  Tue Feb 17 17:33:50 2015
From: steve at donegan.org (Steven Donegan)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:33:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] web transcicer on a mac
In-Reply-To: <b8u6eah7d13ifgaruqc99al2r07m544tj7@4ax.com>
References: <b8u6eah7d13ifgaruqc99al2r07m544tj7@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <802360361.9144774.1424194430498.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

the standard allstar one works fine on my mac.
?____________
Steven Donegan
KK6IVC FCC General Class License
SSCC/NORC Life Member, Car #86
www.sscc.us

      From: jimmy keffer <horsezip at earthlink.net>
 To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:30 AM
 Subject: [App_rpt-users] web transcicer on a mac
   
is there a way to webtransciver with a mac i have friend with a mac
jimmy
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From steve at m0hoy.com  Tue Feb 17 17:34:26 2015
From: steve at m0hoy.com (Stephen Curtis)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:34:26 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] web transcicer on a mac
In-Reply-To: <b8u6eah7d13ifgaruqc99al2r07m544tj7@4ax.com>
References: <b8u6eah7d13ifgaruqc99al2r07m544tj7@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <DB74E9C1-59B1-47CC-B324-F1751AD1362E@m0hoy.com>

Jimmy

I use the web transceiver on my Mac. It works fine on Firefox web browser.

Cheers
Steve 



Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Feb 2015, at 17:30, jimmy keffer <horsezip at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> is there a way to webtransciver with a mac i have friend with a mac
> jimmy
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From horsezip at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 17 17:42:21 2015
From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:42:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] web transcicer on a mac
In-Reply-To: <DB74E9C1-59B1-47CC-B324-F1751AD1362E@m0hoy.com>
References: <b8u6eah7d13ifgaruqc99al2r07m544tj7@4ax.com>
	<DB74E9C1-59B1-47CC-B324-F1751AD1362E@m0hoy.com>
Message-ID: <o7v6ea1h7l4nlcqoa293oflit3e3kta03j@4ax.com>

thanks it must be his java then 


From k5tra at austin.rr.com  Tue Feb 17 18:03:22 2015
From: k5tra at austin.rr.com (k5tra)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:03:22 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users]  Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1424192403.9488.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.1.1424192403.9488.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <000d01d04adc$051c0f90$0f542eb0$@rr.com>

Put five hams in a room and you'll get three different clubs!
TRA



From sam.nabkey at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 18:11:13 2015
From: sam.nabkey at gmail.com (Sam Nabkey)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:11:13 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <000d01d04adc$051c0f90$0f542eb0$@rr.com>
References: <mailman.1.1424192403.9488.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
	<000d01d04adc$051c0f90$0f542eb0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAO8AawqjFgyqX7VTnFkWBxurwS8ZLG87Tk-28zqiw9C8x2-Erw@mail.gmail.com>

And one will be a member of all of them..

To each his own misery...


On Feb 17, 2015 1:09 PM, "k5tra" <k5tra at austin.rr.com> wrote:

> Put five hams in a room and you'll get three different clubs!
> TRA
>
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From N1XBM at amsat.org  Tue Feb 17 19:58:29 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:58:29 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] web transcicer on a mac
In-Reply-To: <o7v6ea1h7l4nlcqoa293oflit3e3kta03j@4ax.com>
References: <b8u6eah7d13ifgaruqc99al2r07m544tj7@4ax.com>
	<DB74E9C1-59B1-47CC-B324-F1751AD1362E@m0hoy.com>
	<o7v6ea1h7l4nlcqoa293oflit3e3kta03j@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEbkMc1-51oQFazKH8=eROAhqY2C=o1+E-+_J_vV9g1qoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Ya I had the problem on my windows computer.  Firefox doesn't like Java
something about security. I had to allow access for it to work. I know it's
not a mac but maybe you have the same issue.
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From N1XBM at amsat.org  Tue Feb 17 20:12:17 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:12:17 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff
In-Reply-To: <000d01d04adc$051c0f90$0f542eb0$@rr.com>
References: <mailman.1.1424192403.9488.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
	<000d01d04adc$051c0f90$0f542eb0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEbJqEBve1_cZJhu30FmFKaSmUZA6FoTdZdctBE2Sa5sdw@mail.gmail.com>

Geezus this topic has been dead a few days and some bozo decides to churn
caa-caa again. Just let it go guys!
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From ajp26 at buffalo.edu  Tue Feb 17 20:15:06 2015
From: ajp26 at buffalo.edu (Pawlowski, Adam)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:15:06 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
Message-ID: <AEB16C1BF994004E90A436C0CC62287F156567B8@mb-ls3.itorg.ad.buffalo.edu>

Afternoon all,

	Is there a way to enable broad logging of connect, disconnect, keying, that's seen by app_rpt? Even cranked up to debug, the information about who's connected, say via echolink, is not available. I'd have to dump console output to a file, and I'm hoping I'm just missing some setting to get by this. Thoughts?

Adam, KC2YQF


From N1XBM at amsat.org  Tue Feb 17 20:44:57 2015
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:44:57 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wireless links
Message-ID: <CAM09xEbv7jRVcO_6Kup14eOJ0X3Tr7ohVfLXPL2WNExi4_vU6A@mail.gmail.com>

This may be viewed as an off topic, but I think it's worth talking about
since it has to do with building our systems out.

What is out there that is affordable for hams to connect our sites using
microwave or some sort of non line of site technology? I would like to link
our sites together when there is not a commercial internet connection
available.

Also this is a concern for keeping a network up and connected in the
absence of commercial broadband due to natural or man made disaster.
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From n3fe at repeater.net  Tue Feb 17 20:48:40 2015
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:48:40 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wireless links
In-Reply-To: <CAM09xEbv7jRVcO_6Kup14eOJ0X3Tr7ohVfLXPL2WNExi4_vU6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM09xEbv7jRVcO_6Kup14eOJ0X3Tr7ohVfLXPL2WNExi4_vU6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ+Z61EEPEm5R6Z765U=fFsxXGoDCuFG1XrtZgGMyxifE0JE7w@mail.gmail.com>

Look up Ubiquiti.  I use them at the sites and they work Great!

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:

> This may be viewed as an off topic, but I think it's worth talking about
> since it has to do with building our systems out.
>
> What is out there that is affordable for hams to connect our sites using
> microwave or some sort of non line of site technology? I would like to link
> our sites together when there is not a commercial internet connection
> available.
>
> Also this is a concern for keeping a network up and connected in the
> absence of commercial broadband due to natural or man made disaster.
>
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From tom at tomh.us  Tue Feb 17 20:59:47 2015
From: tom at tomh.us (Tom Hayward)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:59:47 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wireless links
In-Reply-To: <CAM09xEbv7jRVcO_6Kup14eOJ0X3Tr7ohVfLXPL2WNExi4_vU6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM09xEbv7jRVcO_6Kup14eOJ0X3Tr7ohVfLXPL2WNExi4_vU6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFXO5Z3aVemU0sRzNTJfk-Dko3nnDenkyy3i5GC3cdN33Pwa9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
> This may be viewed as an off topic, but I think it's worth talking about
> since it has to do with building our systems out.
>
> What is out there that is affordable for hams to connect our sites using
> microwave or some sort of non line of site technology? I would like to link
> our sites together when there is not a commercial internet connection
> available.
>
> Also this is a concern for keeping a network up and connected in the absence
> of commercial broadband due to natural or man made disaster.

Check out http://hamwan.org/

While building a managed network in western Washington, the intent of
the HamWAN project is to provide a standard for operating ham
microwave networks in a way that is secure, robust, and compatible
with the Internet for services like Allstar, IRLP, Echolink, APRS-IS,
etc.

We've chosen Mikrotik hardware for its routing capability, but you
could also use modems from Ubiquiti paired with another router.
Specifically, we're using the Mikrotik Routerboard 5SHPn heavily, and
newer point-to-point links have been deployed with various 802.11ac
hardware from Mikrotik. These are typically paired with 2ft or 3ft
dishes.

http://hamwan.org/t/Radio+Modem
http://hamwan.org/t/Directional+Antenna+-+High+Gain

If you need any help with hardware selection or configuring things,
drop into the project's IRC channel, #HamWAN on irc.freenode.org and
we'll help you out.

Tom KD7LXL


From yokshs at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 21:11:42 2015
From: yokshs at gmail.com (K Yoksh)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:11:42 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt logging
Message-ID: <CAJwRzNNh-FgcyzZu1R1LC7V-B_EUXXjBA9AY0z-J-YwfpqNGFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Have you tried my Swissarmy add-on for Asterisk? It will handle logging
among other features.

www.qsl.net/k0kn/swissarmy

73
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Feb 17 21:29:33 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:29:33 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt logging
In-Reply-To: <WM!ff0a56346beb6b1dffa85ccbdaa5edf4a6c4458815bdc33d5ae8fbdacec501c5582abe66ea1abb99fc3f3eb988ac8274!@asav-2.01.com>
References: <CAJwRzNNh-FgcyzZu1R1LC7V-B_EUXXjBA9AY0z-J-YwfpqNGFQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!ff0a56346beb6b1dffa85ccbdaa5edf4a6c4458815bdc33d5ae8fbdacec501c5582abe66ea1abb99fc3f3eb988ac8274!@asav-2.01.com>
Message-ID: <54E3B2BD.3050305@bryanfields.net>

On 2/17/15 4:11 PM, K Yoksh wrote:
>
> Have you tried my Swissarmy add-on for Asterisk? It will handle logging
> among other features.
>
> www.qsl.net/k0kn/swissarmy <http://www.qsl.net/k0kn/swissarmy>
>
:neet:

I've always wanted to try this out, never had the time.  This looks like it's
only run at connect and disconnect, so it shouldn't be an additional load on
the box.

73's

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net

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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Tue Feb 17 22:12:18 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:12:18 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
In-Reply-To: <AEB16C1BF994004E90A436C0CC62287F156567B8@mb-ls3.itorg.ad.buffalo.edu>
References: <AEB16C1BF994004E90A436C0CC62287F156567B8@mb-ls3.itorg.ad.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <0A3AEB8F-470A-4E11-B1D1-79531E913FC6@mac.com>

Allmon is a realtime monitor and control of app_rpt nodes via a web interface. See http://wd6awp.net/allmon/about.php

--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 17, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Pawlowski, Adam <ajp26 at buffalo.edu> wrote:
> 
> Afternoon all,
> 
> 	Is there a way to enable broad logging of connect, disconnect, keying, that's seen by app_rpt? Even cranked up to debug, the information about who's connected, say via echolink, is not available. I'd have to dump console output to a file, and I'm hoping I'm just missing some setting to get by this. Thoughts?
> 
> Adam, KC2YQF
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From wb3awj at comcast.net  Tue Feb 17 22:57:13 2015
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:57:13 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wireless links
In-Reply-To: <CAM09xEbv7jRVcO_6Kup14eOJ0X3Tr7ohVfLXPL2WNExi4_vU6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM09xEbv7jRVcO_6Kup14eOJ0X3Tr7ohVfLXPL2WNExi4_vU6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CFF5057C-DBD1-4323-86D3-7D9AB413FF24@comcast.net>

And there always is Broadband Hamnet mesh.
http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/


On February 17, 2015 3:44:57 PM EST, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
>This may be viewed as an off topic, but I think it's worth talking
>about
>since it has to do with building our systems out.
>
>What is out there that is affordable for hams to connect our sites
>using
>microwave or some sort of non line of site technology? I would like to
>link
>our sites together when there is not a commercial internet connection
>available.
>
>Also this is a concern for keeping a network up and connected in the
>absence of commercial broadband due to natural or man made disaster.
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb 18 02:04:09 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:04:09 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
In-Reply-To: <AEB16C1BF994004E90A436C0CC62287F156567B8@mb-ls3.itorg.ad.buffalo.edu>
References: <AEB16C1BF994004E90A436C0CC62287F156567B8@mb-ls3.itorg.ad.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W32056CDBA73423FB735A4BA2C0@phx.gbl>

Adam,

 All the other ideas have merit but there is a built-in way to do this using the archivedir command. The command is inserted in the node definition part of the node you want to log in rpt.conf.

archivedir=/var/log/asterisk/audio
archiveaudio=0          ; Disable saving .wav files

The second command is one we added to the BBB distribution because archivedir will save all status information including wav audio files of all transactions on the node stanza where you define it. Setting archiveaudio to 0 diables the saving of the audio files. Something you would definitely want to do if you are running the BBB.  On a Pc you could just just have a cron job that deletes the wav files each day if you don't want them.

It creates daily text files named like this -

 /var/log/asterisk/audio/xxxxx/20150217.txt

xxxxx is the node number, so you can have logs for each node in separate directories. The file contents typically looks like this -

20150217000020,TXUNKEY,40879
20150217000020,TXUNKEY,41244
20150217000020,TXUNKEY,40561
20150217000022,RXKEY,28544
20150217000022,TXKEY,41167
20150217000022,TXKEY,28796
20150217000022,TXKEY,28366

There is a lot of data on a busy node!  It is the complete date and time to the second, the action taken, and the node number that action was taken on.

I have created a perl program that sorts this all out and uses the Asterisk database to create real names. It also follows the date change and selects the new days file.

02/17/2015 20:24:29 RXKEY 40961   WA3DSP  146.565 Simplex 88.5  Cape May, NJ
02/17/2015 20:24:52 RXKEY 29971   WA3EZT  446.2 simplex             Jenkintown, PA 19046
02/17/2015 20:26:37 RXKEY 28796   KC4RPP  443.100                      Naples, FL
02/17/2015 20:27:11 RXKEY 40961   WA3DSP  146.565 Simplex 88.5  Cape May, NJ
02/17/2015 20:28:17 RXKEY 29971   WA3EZT  446.2 simplex             Jenkintown, PA 19046
02/17/2015 20:29:19 RXKEY 28796   KC4RPP  443.100                      Naples, FL

In this case I only look at rxkey's but you could look at any status command you desire. This is a great way to see exactly who is keyed up on a node.

So the information is there you just have to process it. The archivedir command gives you a very complete log of everything your node did including audio recordings if you want them.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


> From: ajp26 at buffalo.edu
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:15:06 +0000
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
> 
> Afternoon all,
> 
> 	Is there a way to enable broad logging of connect, disconnect, keying, that's seen by app_rpt? Even cranked up to debug, the information about who's connected, say via echolink, is not available. I'd have to dump console output to a file, and I'm hoping I'm just missing some setting to get by this. Thoughts?
> 
> Adam, KC2YQF
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From sam.nabkey at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 03:25:00 2015
From: sam.nabkey at gmail.com (Sam Nabkey)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:25:00 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W32056CDBA73423FB735A4BA2C0@phx.gbl>
References: <AEB16C1BF994004E90A436C0CC62287F156567B8@mb-ls3.itorg.ad.buffalo.edu>
	<BLU172-W32056CDBA73423FB735A4BA2C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAO8Aawo5+H3u-UWtE5VzPDCcM1eLN35Zsn76KGKg12TQhRVXRw@mail.gmail.com>

Doug...

I haven't tried that archiveaudio=0 thing.

Is that just on the bb code? I see no mention if such a thing elsewhere.



On Feb 17, 2015 9:04 PM, "Doug Crompton" <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

> Adam,
>
>  All the other ideas have merit but there is a built-in way to do this
> using the archivedir command. The command is inserted in the node
> definition part of the node you want to log in rpt.conf.
>
> archivedir=/var/log/asterisk/audio
> archiveaudio=0          ; Disable saving .wav files
>
> The second command is one we added to the BBB distribution because
> archivedir will save all status information including wav audio files of
> all transactions on the node stanza where you define it. Setting
> archiveaudio to 0 diables the saving of the audio files. Something you
> would definitely want to do if you are running the BBB.  On a Pc you could
> just just have a cron job that deletes the wav files each day if you don't
> want them.
>
> It creates daily text files named like this -
>
>  /var/log/asterisk/audio/xxxxx/20150217.txt
>
> xxxxx is the node number, so you can have logs for each node in separate
> directories. The file contents typically looks like this -
>
> 20150217000020,TXUNKEY,40879
> 20150217000020,TXUNKEY,41244
> 20150217000020,TXUNKEY,40561
> 20150217000022,RXKEY,28544
> 20150217000022,TXKEY,41167
> 20150217000022,TXKEY,28796
> 20150217000022,TXKEY,28366
>
> There is a lot of data on a busy node!  It is the complete date and time
> to the second, the action taken, and the node number that action was taken
> on.
>
> I have created a perl program that sorts this all out and uses the
> Asterisk database to create real names. It also follows the date change and
> selects the new days file.
>
> 02/17/2015 20:24:29 RXKEY 40961   WA3DSP  146.565 Simplex 88.5  Cape May,
> NJ
> 02/17/2015 20:24:52 RXKEY 29971   WA3EZT  446.2 simplex
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> 02/17/2015 20:26:37 RXKEY 28796   KC4RPP  443.100
> Naples, FL
> 02/17/2015 20:27:11 RXKEY 40961   WA3DSP  146.565 Simplex 88.5  Cape May,
> NJ
> 02/17/2015 20:28:17 RXKEY 29971   WA3EZT  446.2 simplex
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> 02/17/2015 20:29:19 RXKEY 28796   KC4RPP  443.100
> Naples, FL
>
> In this case I only look at rxkey's but you could look at any status
> command you desire. This is a great way to see exactly who is keyed up on a
> node.
>
> So the information is there you just have to process it. The archivedir
> command gives you a very complete log of everything your node did including
> audio recordings if you want them.
>
>
>
> *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> > From: ajp26 at buffalo.edu
> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:15:06 +0000
> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
> >
> > Afternoon all,
> >
> > Is there a way to enable broad logging of connect, disconnect, keying,
> that's seen by app_rpt? Even cranked up to debug, the information about
> who's connected, say via echolink, is not available. I'd have to dump
> console output to a file, and I'm hoping I'm just missing some setting to
> get by this. Thoughts?
> >
> > Adam, KC2YQF
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
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> >
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From james at lyljtlabs.com  Wed Feb 18 03:59:56 2015
From: james at lyljtlabs.com (James Lyles)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:59:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Link SIP Trunk in FreePBX
Message-ID: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017048EC25C2@MAILR002.mail.lan>

I have a raspberry pi running FreePBX/Asterisk with a VOIP mesh network. The internal extensions and Google voice trunk are working properly. I have an outgoing dial plan configured so that 70 (should go to interactive menu), 7xxxx or 7xxxxx (xxxx and xxxxx are node numbers) will dial the AllStar Link SIP trunk. The outgoing calls will ring the AllStar trunk and often, but not always, the call connects. If it connects, it usually does not have received audio. If there is audio, then when I enter node numbers, etc it appears the DTMF tones are not recognized. I say this because every node number I enter is "invalid".

I can dial the AllStar access number, 763-230-0000, from the same phone over the Google voice trunk and everything works fine. I can also connect to the AllStar Link SIP directly using a software phone on my same LAN and it works fine.

I'm assuming I am doing something wrong in the trunk configuration. Any help would be great. Thanks- James
---------------------
I have it configured in FreePBX as follows:
Trunk Name: AllStar Link

PEER Details:
username=1
fromuser=1
secret=allstar
host=sip.allstarlink.org
fromdomain=sip.allstarlink.org
type=friend
context=from-trunk
insecure=port,invite
trustrpid=yes
directmedia=no
keepalive=45
nat=yes
dtmfmode=rfc2833
disallow=all
allow=g711&ulaw

USER Context: (no entry)
USER Details: (no entry)
Register String: 1:allstar at sip.allstarlink.org


From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb 18 04:13:36 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:13:36 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
In-Reply-To: <CAO8Aawo5+H3u-UWtE5VzPDCcM1eLN35Zsn76KGKg12TQhRVXRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AEB16C1BF994004E90A436C0CC62287F156567B8@mb-ls3.itorg.ad.buffalo.edu>,
	<BLU172-W32056CDBA73423FB735A4BA2C0@phx.gbl>,
	<CAO8Aawo5+H3u-UWtE5VzPDCcM1eLN35Zsn76KGKg12TQhRVXRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W14439AFA80E4A165719E2ABA2C0@phx.gbl>

Sam,

 I don't know if it was picked up in the Acid release. But on a PC it is not a  big deal to save the wave files when you have a hard drive. Before I added the code to not save the wav files on my PC Acid install it saved a lot of data (every transmission is a separate wav file) but it hardly made a dent on a large hard drive even after several months and as I said you can just delete all wav files in the directory daily or at whatever interval you want with a cron job.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:25:00 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
From: sam.nabkey at gmail.com
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: ajp26 at buffalo.edu; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

Doug...
I haven't tried that archiveaudio=0 thing.
Is that just on the bb code? I see no mention if such a thing elsewhere.



    
On Feb 17, 2015 9:04 PM, "Doug Crompton" <doug at crompton.com> wrote:



Adam,

 All the other ideas have merit but there is a built-in way to do this using the archivedir command. The command is inserted in the node definition part of the node you want to log in rpt.conf.

archivedir=/var/log/asterisk/audio
archiveaudio=0          ; Disable saving .wav files

The second command is one we added to the BBB distribution because archivedir will save all status information including wav audio files of all transactions on the node stanza where you define it. Setting archiveaudio to 0 diables the saving of the audio files. Something you would definitely want to do if you are running the BBB.  On a Pc you could just just have a cron job that deletes the wav files each day if you don't want them.

It creates daily text files named like this -

 /var/log/asterisk/audio/xxxxx/20150217.txt

xxxxx is the node number, so you can have logs for each node in separate directories. The file contents typically looks like this -

20150217000020,TXUNKEY,40879
20150217000020,TXUNKEY,41244
20150217000020,TXUNKEY,40561
20150217000022,RXKEY,28544
20150217000022,TXKEY,41167
20150217000022,TXKEY,28796
20150217000022,TXKEY,28366

There is a lot of data on a busy node!  It is the complete date and time to the second, the action taken, and the node number that action was taken on.

I have created a perl program that sorts this all out and uses the Asterisk database to create real names. It also follows the date change and selects the new days file.

02/17/2015 20:24:29 RXKEY 40961   WA3DSP  146.565 Simplex 88.5  Cape May, NJ
02/17/2015 20:24:52 RXKEY 29971   WA3EZT  446.2 simplex             Jenkintown, PA 19046
02/17/2015 20:26:37 RXKEY 28796   KC4RPP  443.100                      Naples, FL
02/17/2015 20:27:11 RXKEY 40961   WA3DSP  146.565 Simplex 88.5  Cape May, NJ
02/17/2015 20:28:17 RXKEY 29971   WA3EZT  446.2 simplex             Jenkintown, PA 19046
02/17/2015 20:29:19 RXKEY 28796   KC4RPP  443.100                      Naples, FL

In this case I only look at rxkey's but you could look at any status command you desire. This is a great way to see exactly who is keyed up on a node.

So the information is there you just have to process it. The archivedir command gives you a very complete log of everything your node did including audio recordings if you want them.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


> From: ajp26 at buffalo.edu
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:15:06 +0000
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] app_rpt logging
> 
> Afternoon all,
> 
> 	Is there a way to enable broad logging of connect, disconnect, keying, that's seen by app_rpt? Even cranked up to debug, the information about who's connected, say via echolink, is not available. I'd have to dump console output to a file, and I'm hoping I'm just missing some setting to get by this. Thoughts?
> 
> Adam, KC2YQF
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From kk6ecm at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 04:38:06 2015
From: kk6ecm at gmail.com (kk6ecm)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:38:06 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID VoIP Audio Bandwidth
Message-ID: <769303A6-F553-4B95-BB9F-754FCBFFF22D@gmail.com>

How much audio bandwidth (highest useful frequency passed) can be expected using ACID via the VoIP link across the internet? What are the controlling/limiting factors?

Thanks,
Bob
kk6ecm

Sent from iPad



From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb 18 04:39:45 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:39:45 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Link SIP Trunk in FreePBX
In-Reply-To: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017048EC25C2@MAILR002.mail.lan>
References: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017048EC25C2@MAILR002.mail.lan>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W11E54E169D75746DE5F6F1BA2C0@phx.gbl>

James,

 You didn't mention if you have the Asterisk client running at both ends to check for errors??? If  not that could be helpful.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


> From: james at lyljtlabs.com
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:59:56 -0500
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Link SIP Trunk in FreePBX
> 
> I have a raspberry pi running FreePBX/Asterisk with a VOIP mesh network. The internal extensions and Google voice trunk are working properly. I have an outgoing dial plan configured so that 70 (should go to interactive menu), 7xxxx or 7xxxxx (xxxx and xxxxx are node numbers) will dial the AllStar Link SIP trunk. The outgoing calls will ring the AllStar trunk and often, but not always, the call connects. If it connects, it usually does not have received audio. If there is audio, then when I enter node numbers, etc it appears the DTMF tones are not recognized. I say this because every node number I enter is "invalid".
> 
> I can dial the AllStar access number, 763-230-0000, from the same phone over the Google voice trunk and everything works fine. I can also connect to the AllStar Link SIP directly using a software phone on my same LAN and it works fine.
> 
> I'm assuming I am doing something wrong in the trunk configuration. Any help would be great. Thanks- James
> ---------------------
> I have it configured in FreePBX as follows:
> Trunk Name: AllStar Link
> 
> PEER Details:
> username=1
> fromuser=1
> secret=allstar
> host=sip.allstarlink.org
> fromdomain=sip.allstarlink.org
> type=friend
> context=from-trunk
> insecure=port,invite
> trustrpid=yes
> directmedia=no
> keepalive=45
> nat=yes
> dtmfmode=rfc2833
> disallow=all
> allow=g711&ulaw
> 
> USER Context: (no entry)
> USER Details: (no entry)
> Register String: 1:allstar at sip.allstarlink.org
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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From james at lyljtlabs.com  Wed Feb 18 04:58:23 2015
From: james at lyljtlabs.com (James Lyles)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:58:23 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Link SIP Trunk in FreePBX
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W11E54E169D75746DE5F6F1BA2C0@phx.gbl>
References: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017048EC25C2@MAILR002.mail.lan>
	<BLU172-W11E54E169D75746DE5F6F1BA2C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017048EC25C3@MAILR002.mail.lan>

Doug,

This is an Asterisk/FreePBX server on my end. And I?m trying to connect into the AllStar Link network?s direct SIP/public telephone portal (https://allstarlink.org/support.html#telephoneportal) not another node I have control over. I don?t have any access to the AllStar Link network side of this call. The public access portal should let me dial node numbers once I connect. But I?m just dialing in as a user. I might be configuring my Asterisk box wrong and shouldn?t be using a trunk?

Thanks,
James

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From mike at midnighteng.com  Wed Feb 18 06:19:20 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:19:20 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Link SIP Trunk in FreePBX
Message-ID: <a2dfebe1a7d61df69ce7c7e6dbd8f740.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>


James,

First it should be said that sometimes the result may be from more than
one problem.

>From what you have shared, it is still very hard to pinpoint a single
problem but I might mention a few potential ones...

If you are not totally in tune with asterisk dial plan protocol, I would
suggest not using 70 for your interactive menu (or anything else 7x) while
you have other extensions that are 7xxxx & 7xxxxx unless you are sure you
can define the sort order for asterisk to find the extension (via context
or other scheme) or it is not possible for the longer extensions to be
70xx or 70xxx. Asterisk will always take the first match it finds. Perhaps
you have considered and compensated for this. Thought I would mention it.
Without seeing your whole dial plan, I can't say it is a problem, just a
potential one to look for.

The audio problem sounds like it may be that the pi is running out of
headroom or cpu cycles to process it during the event. Possible some other
process may be soaking up either or both resources during the event to
create the error.

Just a few thoughts for you to consider.

...mike/kb8jnm

> I have a raspberry pi running FreePBX/Asterisk with a VOIP mesh network.
> The internal extensions and Google voice trunk are working properly. I
> have an outgoing dial plan configured so that 70 (should go to interactive
> menu), 7xxxx or 7xxxxx (xxxx and xxxxx are node numbers) will dial the
> AllStar Link SIP trunk. The outgoing calls will ring the AllStar trunk and
> often, but not always, the call connects. If it connects, it usually does
> not have received audio. If there is audio, then when I enter node
> numbers, etc it appears the DTMF tones are not recognized. I say this
> because every node number I enter is "invalid".
>
> I can dial the AllStar access number, 763-230-0000, from the same phone
> over the Google voice trunk and everything works fine. I can also connect
> to the AllStar Link SIP directly using a software phone on my same LAN and
> it works fine.
>
> I'm assuming I am doing something wrong in the trunk configuration. Any
> help would be great. Thanks- James
> ---------------------
> I have it configured in FreePBX as follows:
> Trunk Name: AllStar Link
>
> PEER Details:
> username=1
> fromuser=1
> secret=allstar
> host=sip.allstarlink.org
> fromdomain=sip.allstarlink.org
> type=friend
> context=from-trunk
> insecure=port,invite
> trustrpid=yes
> directmedia=no
> keepalive=45
> nat=yes
> dtmfmode=rfc2833
> disallow=all
> allow=g711&ulaw
>
> USER Context: (no entry)
> USER Details: (no entry)
> Register String: 1:allstar at sip.allstarlink.org
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From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb 18 06:44:34 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 01:44:34 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Link SIP Trunk in FreePBX
In-Reply-To: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017048EC25C3@MAILR002.mail.lan>
References: <F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017048EC25C2@MAILR002.mail.lan>,
	<BLU172-W11E54E169D75746DE5F6F1BA2C0@phx.gbl>,
	<F6EA88B1B9C75E4786EF844F489C2636017048EC25C3@MAILR002.mail.lan>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W45C31E5CA6986B9C955FEBBA2C0@phx.gbl>

James,

 Here is what I have to dial sip to Allstarlink....

In sip.conf

[allstar]
type=peer
host=sip.allstarlink.org
username=1
disallow=all
allow=ulaw
dtmfmode=rfc2833
nat=yes
In extensions....

exten => 549,1,Dial(SIP/@allstar,120,WT)
exten => 549,2,Hangup()

This is in my PBX system. When I dial 549 it rings and I get the voice prompts. You have enter several things node number, mode, pin number.   This works fine for me but I am using standard old version Asterisk for my PBX on a PC.

Are you trying to automatically enter the node, etc to the attendant? If so it might be a timing issue. I have never used FreePBX but I would think you could open a ssh session to a Linux prompt and enter the Asterisk client and be able to see some info that might be helpful during call progress.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


From: james at lyljtlabs.com
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:58:23 -0500
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Link SIP Trunk in FreePBX

Doug, This is an Asterisk/FreePBX server on my end. And I?m trying to connect into the AllStar Link network?s direct SIP/public telephone portal (https://allstarlink.org/support.html#telephoneportal) not another node I have control over. I don?t have any access to the AllStar Link network side of this call. The public access portal should let me dial node numbers once I connect. But I?m just dialing in as a user. I might be configuring my Asterisk box wrong and shouldn?t be using a trunk? Thanks,James  		 	   		  
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Wed Feb 18 07:17:38 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:17:38 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Is it legal; Can it be done?
Message-ID: <54FEA4DDD0854D928EB316C7459C349F@delllaptop>

I have always wondered if it is legal to run a 2 meter ?> HF net monitored and controlled by an appropriately licensed control operator. The 2 meter side is easy. I suspect the HF side is just as easy with VOX and a hysteresis based squelch circuit instead of the usual RF squelch. I know that controllers like a Arcom RC-210 is capable of basic HF rig control (suggesting legality?), but what about Allstar? 
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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 16:27:32 2015
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:27:32 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
Message-ID: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>

Is it possible for Allison to speak a bit faster when it's like "node xyz
connected to node 40764"? Maybe wait less time in between the numbers when
you connect or add my own audio files that are shorter?



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amsatnet.info
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electricity440 at gmail.com
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From ke2n at cs.com  Wed Feb 18 17:31:53 2015
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:31:53 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] talk faster
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1424278803.27551.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
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yes - see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/142  for recording locations
 
you can use Audacity to speed up the existing recordings (without changing the pitch of the voice)
   


	
		
			
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Is it possible for Allison to speak a bit faster when it's like "node xyz connected to node 40764"? Maybe wait less time in between the numbers when you connect or add my own audio files that are shorter?  -- 

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amsatnet.info
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From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb 18 17:32:06 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:32:06 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>

Skyler,

 The connect message are fixed but you can add custom connect messages for specific nodes. There are some that are in the distribution as examples....

 ls /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames
2001.ulaw  2011.ulaw  2014.ulaw  2025.ulaw  2059.ulaw  2063.ulaw  2391.ulaw   27136.ulaw
2003.ulaw  2012.ulaw  2016.ulaw  2030.ulaw  2060.ulaw  2065.ulaw  27016.ulaw
2010.ulaw  2013.ulaw  2022.ulaw  2043.ulaw  2061.ulaw  2070.ulaw  27058.ulaw

If you put a sound file in there with a node number that you connect to it will say that text rather than the canned text.

You could also replace the Alison files with other voice but that would get a little tricky. When it says node xxxxx connected to yyyyy  -  it is really using words strung together - in this case each individual number then the word connected then the number 2 (for 'to') etc.   The files are located in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds and sub directories. The files would also have to conform to the standards required by Asterisk - file type, sample rate, etc.  While it might be faster to substitute Google created files I think it would sound choppy in this case because it was not created as a complete sentence.

  In general there is no requirement to use Alison files for voice that you create. You do have other options. You can use Google voice to create sound files or even create them with your own voice using a mic and sound recorder. As long as the file meets the requirements for playing in Asterisk it will work. The BBB has an automated script to do Google voice sound files but you could do it manually also on a PC. 

Google voice will say any text you throw at it although sometimes you have to be a little creative in how you word it for it to sound exactly right. It will say something like the current weather forecast or perhaps if you want to say something about a club meeting on a repeater etc.  Things that Alison would not do.  AT&T has a demo page also that works well but there are limitations on how you can use the files it creates. I have occasionally used it but it is not clear if amateur use would be acceptable, it may not be. Commercial use is definitely not allowed. 
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:27:32 -0700
From: electricity440 at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry

Is it possible for Allison to speak a bit faster when it's like "node xyz connected to node 40764"? Maybe wait less time in between the numbers when you connect or add my own audio files that are shorter?  


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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 20:25:29 2015
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:25:29 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>

It would be a pain because I would have to convert all the files and then
export them back but could I take the audio and shorten it in something
like audacity?

On Wednesday, February 18, 2015, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

> Skyler,
>
>  The connect message are fixed but you can add custom connect messages for
> specific nodes. There are some that are in the distribution as examples....
>
>  ls /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames
> 2001.ulaw  2011.ulaw  2014.ulaw  2025.ulaw  2059.ulaw  2063.ulaw
> 2391.ulaw   27136.ulaw
> 2003.ulaw  2012.ulaw  2016.ulaw  2030.ulaw  2060.ulaw  2065.ulaw
> 27016.ulaw
> 2010.ulaw  2013.ulaw  2022.ulaw  2043.ulaw  2061.ulaw  2070.ulaw
> 27058.ulaw
>
> If you put a sound file in there with a node number that you connect to it
> will say that text rather than the canned text.
>
> You could also replace the Alison files with other voice but that would
> get a little tricky. When it says node xxxxx connected to yyyyy  -  it is
> really using words strung together - in this case each individual number
> then the word connected then the number 2 (for 'to') etc.   The files are
> located in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds and sub directories. The files would
> also have to conform to the standards required by Asterisk - file type,
> sample rate, etc.  While it might be faster to substitute Google created
> files I think it would sound choppy in this case because it was not created
> as a complete sentence.
>
>   In general there is no requirement to use Alison files for voice that
> you create. You do have other options. You can use Google voice to create
> sound files or even create them with your own voice using a mic and sound
> recorder. As long as the file meets the requirements for playing in
> Asterisk it will work. The BBB has an automated script to do Google voice
> sound files but you could do it manually also on a PC.
>
> Google voice will say any text you throw at it although sometimes you have
> to be a little creative in how you word it for it to sound exactly right.
> It will say something like the current weather forecast or perhaps if you
> want to say something about a club meeting on a repeater etc.  Things that
> Alison would not do.  AT&T has a demo page also that works well but there
> are limitations on how you can use the files it creates. I have
> occasionally used it but it is not clear if amateur use would be
> acceptable, it may not be. Commercial use is definitely not allowed.
>
>
>
> *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:27:32 -0700
> From: electricity440 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','electricity440 at gmail.com');>
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org');>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
>
> Is it possible for Allison to speak a bit faster when it's like "node xyz
> connected to node 40764"? Maybe wait less time in between the numbers when
> you connect or add my own audio files that are shorter?
>
>
>
> --
> Skyler Fennell
> amsatnet.info
> KD?WHB
> electricity440 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','electricity440 at gmail.com');>
>
>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Feb 18 20:31:25 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:31:25 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <WM!7eae30f375c8cbc2b77541b80b0f35aa34349186dad7f8080574ecb4089ea9bba59604ce5a2fbdedf4cebb4a7647659f!@asav-2.01.com>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!7eae30f375c8cbc2b77541b80b0f35aa34349186dad7f8080574ecb4089ea9bba59604ce5a2fbdedf4cebb4a7647659f!@asav-2.01.com>
Message-ID: <54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>

On 2/18/15 3:25 PM, Skyler F wrote:
> It would be a pain because I would have to convert all the files and then
> export them back but could I take the audio and shorten it in something like
> audacity?

you could use something like sox and script it.
sox normal.ulaw faster.ulaw speed 1.5

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net


From wb3awj at comcast.net  Wed Feb 18 20:48:49 2015
From: wb3awj at comcast.net (Robert A. Poff)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:48:49 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BFB33C14-15A6-4288-B0B7-696B5FFCD31E@comcast.net>

Take a look at resampling the files with SOX.

Google is your friend :
https://www.google.com/search?q=sox+change+tempo&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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From doug at crompton.com  Wed Feb 18 22:27:18 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:27:18 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>,
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<WM!7eae30f375c8cbc2b77541b80b0f35aa34349186dad7f8080574ecb4089ea9bba59604ce5a2fbdedf4cebb4a7647659f!@asav-2.01.com>,
	<54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W233A2098131661B1644F66BA2C0@phx.gbl>

In the past I have tried Sox to speed up Alison files and I was not happy with the results even though the pitch stayed the same. Probably not something you would want to listen to all the time. Don't wholesale change anything without making backups so you can go back.

If there are just certain nodes you consistently connect to I think you would be better off creating a Google voice custom connect message and put it in the /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames directory with its node_number.ulaw   It could say anything you want. Connected to Sam, Connected to 'node number', Connected to 'some club name', etc.

Google voice is at least 30-50% faster than Alison. 

You also could just turn off connect messages except for those you make -

holdofftelem=1
telemdefault=2

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:31:25 -0500
> From: Bryan at bryanfields.net
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
> 
> On 2/18/15 3:25 PM, Skyler F wrote:
> > It would be a pain because I would have to convert all the files and then
> > export them back but could I take the audio and shorten it in something like
> > audacity?
> 
> you could use something like sox and script it.
> sox normal.ulaw faster.ulaw speed 1.5
> 
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> 727-214-2508 - Fax
> http://bryanfields.net
> _______________________________________________
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From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Thu Feb 19 12:57:20 2015
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (Jon Rorke)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:57:20 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W233A2098131661B1644F66BA2C0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!7eae30f375c8cbc2b77541b80b0f35aa34349186dad7f8080574ecb4089ea9bba59604ce5a2fbdedf4cebb4a7647659f!@asav-2.01.com>
	<54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>
	<BLU172-W233A2098131661B1644F66BA2C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54E5DDB0.1000903@cogeco.ca>

I use audacity to make my own connect messages. How do you use Google 
voice to make the messages?

VA3RQ

On 2/18/2015 5:27 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> In the past I have tried Sox to speed up Alison files and I was not 
> happy with the results even though the pitch stayed the same. Probably 
> not something you would want to listen to all the time. Don't 
> wholesale change anything without making backups so you can go back.
>
> If there are just certain nodes you consistently connect to I think 
> you would be better off creating a Google voice custom connect message 
> and put it in the /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/rpt/nodenames directory 
> with its node_number.ulaw   It could say anything you want. Connected 
> to Sam, Connected to 'node number', Connected to 'some club name', etc.
>
> Google voice is at least 30-50% faster than Alison.
>
> You also could just turn off connect messages except for those you make -
>
> holdofftelem=1
> telemdefault=2
>
> *73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio*
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:31:25 -0500
> > From: Bryan at bryanfields.net
> > To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
> >
> > On 2/18/15 3:25 PM, Skyler F wrote:
> > > It would be a pain because I would have to convert all the files 
> and then
> > > export them back but could I take the audio and shorten it in 
> something like
> > > audacity?
> >
> > you could use something like sox and script it.
> > sox normal.ulaw faster.ulaw speed 1.5
> >
> > --
> > Bryan Fields
> >
> > 727-409-1194 - Voice
> > 727-214-2508 - Fax
> > http://bryanfields.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list please visit 
> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll 
> down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the 
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 19 16:17:03 2015
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:17:03 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Autopatch service
Message-ID: <BLU180-W61C01482FCF06EA5B52FE6B12D0@phx.gbl>

Autopatch capability is no longer offered. All active autopatch profiles
 as of 2/19/2015 are still operational,
and will remain so indefinitely (at no charge). If you have this 
service, and are so inclined to continue providing monetary assistance, 
please do so as a donation.

Thank you.

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From doug at crompton.com  Thu Feb 19 17:57:34 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:57:34 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <54E5DDB0.1000903@cogeco.ca>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>,
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<WM!7eae30f375c8cbc2b77541b80b0f35aa34349186dad7f8080574ecb4089ea9bba59604ce5a2fbdedf4cebb4a7647659f!@asav-2.01.com>,
	<54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>,
	<BLU172-W233A2098131661B1644F66BA2C0@phx.gbl>,
	<54E5DDB0.1000903@cogeco.ca>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W227F3F1539B22B6E3E6782BA2D0@phx.gbl>

Jon,

 There is a script in the BBB release that automates it. If you don't have access to that I can see about making it available. It should work on any platform.

See - http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/bbb_tts.pdf

I have not looked into it but I believe other voices and languages are available.

Remind me if I don't get to it.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:57:20 -0500
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry


  
    
  
  
    I use audacity to make my own connect messages. How do you use
    Google voice to make the messages? 

    

    VA3RQ

    

 		 	   		  
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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 19:50:13 2015
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:50:13 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W227F3F1539B22B6E3E6782BA2D0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!7eae30f375c8cbc2b77541b80b0f35aa34349186dad7f8080574ecb4089ea9bba59604ce5a2fbdedf4cebb4a7647659f!@asav-2.01.com>
	<54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>
	<BLU172-W233A2098131661B1644F66BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<54E5DDB0.1000903@cogeco.ca>
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For instance if it is like
"Node 12345 connected to node 54321"

Do the seperate audio files for each number play right away after each
other or is there a delay function in it.

For instance is it like

PLAY 1.ulaw
Wait a fraction of a second
PLAY 2.ulaw

Or is there just a bit of silence in the audio file that I  could chop out?




On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

> Jon,
>
>  There is a script in the BBB release that automates it. If you don't have
> access to that I can see about making it available. It should work on any
> platform.
>
> See - http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/bbb_tts.pdf
>
> I have not looked into it but I believe other voices and languages are
> available.
>
> Remind me if I don't get to it.
>
>
>
> *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:57:20 -0500
> From: jrorke at cogeco.ca <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jrorke at cogeco.ca');>
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org');>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
>
> I use audacity to make my own connect messages. How do you use Google
> voice to make the messages?
>
> VA3RQ
>
>
>

-- 
Skyler Fennell
amsatnet.info
KD?WHB
electricity440 at gmail.com
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From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Thu Feb 19 20:16:00 2015
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (Jon Rorke)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:16:00 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <BLU172-W227F3F1539B22B6E3E6782BA2D0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!7eae30f375c8cbc2b77541b80b0f35aa34349186dad7f8080574ecb4089ea9bba59604ce5a2fbdedf4cebb4a7647659f!@asav-2.01.com>
	<54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>
	<BLU172-W233A2098131661B1644F66BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<54E5DDB0.1000903@cogeco.ca>
	<BLU172-W227F3F1539B22B6E3E6782BA2D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54E64480.4000102@cogeco.ca>

OK I guess what I'm getting at is there something extra that needs to be 
added to an ACID install to use that (Google voice generated files) or 
can the voice files be made off line and just copy them over to the 
nodename directory like I do with my custom voice files?
Jon RQ
On 2/19/2015 12:57 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
> Jon,
>
>  There is a script in the BBB release that automates it. If you don't 
> have access to that I can see about making it available. It should 
> work on any platform.
>
> See - http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/bbb_tts.pdf
>
> I have not looked into it but I believe other voices and languages are 
> available.
>
> Remind me if I don't get to it.
>
> *73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio*
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:57:20 -0500
> From: jrorke at cogeco.ca
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
>
> I use audacity to make my own connect messages. How do you use Google 
> voice to make the messages?
>
> VA3RQ
>
>

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From doug at crompton.com  Thu Feb 19 21:37:21 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:37:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <54E64480.4000102@cogeco.ca>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!7eae30f375c8cbc2b77541b80b0f35aa34349186dad7f8080574ecb4089ea9bba59604ce5a2fbdedf4cebb4a7647659f!@asav-2.01.com>
	<54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>
	<BLU172-W233A2098131661B1644F66BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<54E5DDB0.1000903@cogeco.ca>
	<BLU172-W227F3F1539B22B6E3E6782BA2D0@phx.gbl>,
	<54E64480.4000102@cogeco.ca>
Message-ID: <BLU172-W35919FED84CCD95F51B880BA2D0@phx.gbl>

No nothing special is needed. It uses sox and lame so if you don't have those you need to install them. Google voice produces mp3 files. Google also has a text size conversion limit - I believe it is 90 or so characters. The script handles that, allowing unlimited length by patching files together. It also converts mp3 to ulaw and 8K sample rate.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:16:00 -0500
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca
To: doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry


  
    
  
  
    OK I guess what I'm getting at is there something extra that needs
    to be added to an ACID install to use that (Google voice generated
    files) or can the voice files be made off line and just copy them
    over to the nodename directory like I do with my custom voice files?

    Jon RQ

    On 2/19/2015 12:57 PM, Doug Crompton
      wrote:

    
    
      
      Jon,

          

           There is a script in the BBB release that automates it. If
          you don't have access to that I can see about making it
          available. It should work on any platform.

          

          See - http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/bbb_tts.pdf

          

          I have not looked into it but I believe other voices and
          languages are available.

          

          Remind me if I don't get to it.
        

        73 Doug

          WA3DSP

          http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

        

        
          Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:57:20 -0500

          From: jrorke at cogeco.ca

          To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org

          Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry

          

          I use audacity to make my own connect messages. How do you use
          Google voice to make the messages? 

          

          VA3RQ

          

          

        
      
    
    
 		 	   		  
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From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Fri Feb 20 00:25:33 2015
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:25:33 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT08SyxOKa3OfUDLadMG+u+BORc5ZVwRDW9Lr-Wnoz5+fbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT086MmKUGQdFXhGsopxqbKkUqLC0LT8sKTCSB8A=Lo6_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU172-W435D28A60D61F196586517BA2C0@phx.gbl>
	<CAJNyT0-=NyHpt0KEzC6AVdCcENDCryzJSb0kzp1zM8OL363XMw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<54E4F69D.3040100@bryanfields.net>
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	<54E5DDB0.1000903@cogeco.ca>
	<BLU172-W227F3F1539B22B6E3E6782BA2D0@phx.gbl>
	<CAJNyT08SyxOKa3OfUDLadMG+u+BORc5ZVwRDW9Lr-Wnoz5+fbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54E67EFD.3050605@cogeco.ca>

When you use the custom files for your node and the connected node it play :

Node(your node file) connected to (the remote node).

I find this to be faster than Allison saying the node numbers.

Jon RQ

On 2/19/2015 2:50 PM, Skyler F wrote:
> For instance if it is like
> "Node 12345 connected to node 54321"
>
> Do the seperate audio files for each number play right away after each 
> other or is there a delay function in it.
>
> For instance is it like
>
> PLAY 1.ulaw
> Wait a fraction of a second
> PLAY 2.ulaw
>
> Or is there just a bit of silence in the audio file that I  could chop 
> out?
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com 
> <mailto:doug at crompton.com>> wrote:
>
>     Jon,
>
>      There is a script in the BBB release that automates it. If you
>     don't have access to that I can see about making it available. It
>     should work on any platform.
>
>     See -
>     http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/bbb_tts.pdf
>
>     I have not looked into it but I believe other voices and languages
>     are available.
>
>     Remind me if I don't get to it.
>
>     *73 Doug
>     WA3DSP
>     http://www.crompton.com/hamradio*
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:57:20 -0500
>     From: jrorke at cogeco.ca
>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jrorke at cogeco.ca');>
>     To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org');>
>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Faster telemetry
>
>     I use audacity to make my own connect messages. How do you use
>     Google voice to make the messages?
>
>     VA3RQ
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Skyler Fennell
> amsatnet.info <http://amsatnet.info>
> KD?WHB
> electricity440 at gmail.com <mailto:electricity440 at gmail.com>
>
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From markjohnston73 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 03:22:34 2015
From: markjohnston73 at gmail.com (Mark Johnston)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:22:34 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simplex node - prevent tx while local traffic is
	going on...
Message-ID: <CAARNdJH57qYXr3=MQkQqi3VjBXVjTzBPcGKq9wMyvpxE9aNMpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Does anyone know a/the setting to prevent TX while a local station is
transmitting - example
between network traffic, being able to key up and enter a command without
being walked on, assuming one gets into the node before the remote station
transmits of course.

Tried changing usbradio.conf duplex = 0
did not help -

rpt.conf is set to duplex = 1


Thanks,

Mark KC7DMF
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From jimw7ry at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 05:30:05 2015
From: jimw7ry at gmail.com (Jim)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:30:05 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simplex node - prevent tx while local traffic
	isgoing on...
In-Reply-To: <CAARNdJH57qYXr3=MQkQqi3VjBXVjTzBPcGKq9wMyvpxE9aNMpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAARNdJH57qYXr3=MQkQqi3VjBXVjTzBPcGKq9wMyvpxE9aNMpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AC71650722B64F92B19C182CBDE35D99@JimsLaptop>

I really don?t like to be walked on... 

73
Jim W7RY


From: Mark Johnston 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 7:22 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simplex node - prevent tx while local traffic isgoing on...

Hello, 

Does anyone know a/the setting to prevent TX while a local station is transmitting - example
between network traffic, being able to key up and enter a command without being walked on, assuming one gets into the node before the remote station transmits of course.

Tried changing usbradio.conf duplex = 0 
did not help -

rpt.conf is set to duplex = 1


Thanks,

Mark KC7DMF


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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Sat Feb 21 05:41:39 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:41:39 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simplex node - prevent tx while local traffic
 is going on...
In-Reply-To: <CAARNdJH57qYXr3=MQkQqi3VjBXVjTzBPcGKq9wMyvpxE9aNMpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAARNdJH57qYXr3=MQkQqi3VjBXVjTzBPcGKq9wMyvpxE9aNMpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C031BC18-B5D9-41D6-B7F8-010F9C1FBD34@mac.com>

Duplex=1 in rpt.conf is supposed to do that what you want.  That is, with a simplex node a signal from another node will not key the local node if there is a signal on it's receiver. 

On the other hand a remote base is supposed to give TX priority to the linked node. So a signal from the other node will key the local node even when there is a signal on it?s receiver. 

You don?t have the remote base mode set by chance, do you?
--
Tim
:wq

> On Feb 20, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Mark Johnston <markjohnston73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> Does anyone know a/the setting to prevent TX while a local station is transmitting - example
> between network traffic, being able to key up and enter a command without being walked on, assuming one gets into the node before the remote station transmits of course.
> 
> Tried changing usbradio.conf duplex = 0 
> did not help -
> 
> rpt.conf is set to duplex = 1
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark KC7DMF
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From ke6pcv at cal-net.org  Sat Feb 21 23:28:44 2015
From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:28:44 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Autopatch service
In-Reply-To: <BLU180-W61C01482FCF06EA5B52FE6B12D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU180-W61C01482FCF06EA5B52FE6B12D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <027e01d04e2e$2297a4d0$67c6ee70$@org>

Hey Jim, 

 

How are you doing? I hope all is well with you . 

I have been busy with family, no time for radio as of late. 

 

What is  the story with the auto patch? Is it too costly to maintain?

 

Marshall 

 

 

From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of
Jim Duuuude
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:17 AM
To: app_rpt mailing list
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Autopatch service

 

Autopatch capability is no longer offered. All active autopatch profiles as of 2/19/2015 are
still operational, and will remain so indefinitely (at no charge). If you have this service,
and are so inclined to continue providing monetary assistance, please do so as a donation.

Thank you.

Jim, WB6NIL

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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 22 13:49:41 2015
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 06:49:41 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Simplex node - prevent tx while local traffic
 is going on...
In-Reply-To: <C031BC18-B5D9-41D6-B7F8-010F9C1FBD34@mac.com>
References: <CAARNdJH57qYXr3=MQkQqi3VjBXVjTzBPcGKq9wMyvpxE9aNMpQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<C031BC18-B5D9-41D6-B7F8-010F9C1FBD34@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAJNyT0__hOc8Ry_R-J1m==F84mKipOWDdPbzFWxhEY0d4ar_jw@mail.gmail.com>

Make sure linktolink=yes is not active. I have linktolink=yes on my node
because it is half duplex. The only disadvantage is that people will get
walked on.



On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com> wrote:

> Duplex=1 in rpt.conf is supposed to do that what you want.  That is, with
> a simplex node a signal from another node will not key the local node if
> there is a signal on it's receiver.
>
> On the other hand a remote base is supposed to give TX priority to the
> linked node. So a signal from the other node will key the local node even
> when there is a signal on it?s receiver.
>
> You don?t have the remote base mode set by chance, do you?
> --
> Tim
> :wq
>
> On Feb 20, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Mark Johnston <markjohnston73 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know a/the setting to prevent TX while a local station is
> transmitting - example
> between network traffic, being able to key up and enter a command without
> being walked on, assuming one gets into the node before the remote station
> transmits of course.
>
> Tried changing usbradio.conf duplex = 0
> did not help -
>
> rpt.conf is set to duplex = 1
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark KC7DMF
>  _______________________________________________
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From eric at efratnetworks.com  Sun Feb 22 15:23:34 2015
From: eric at efratnetworks.com (Eric Guth)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:23:34 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Tait T2000 Radio to URI interface
Message-ID: <4198F8C5954EED46AFC553CAFC879B7C42D5652B36@MBX75.ad2.softcom.biz>

Has anyone made an interface cable from a DMK URI to a Tait  T2000?

73,

Eric
4Z1UG / WA6IGR
Allstar Node: 28422


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From szingman at msgstor.com  Sun Feb 22 17:22:29 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:22:29 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Tait T2000 Radio to URI interface
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1424624403.32394.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.1.1424624403.32394.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54EA1055.3060409@msgstor.com>

Eric,
I have done a URI to a T2000. All the signals you need are on the 
interface board. I don't know if there is a standard pinout of the DB9.
I can send you copies of the service manual if that will help.

73, Steve N4IRS


On 02/22/2015 12:00 PM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:23:34 -0500
> From: Eric Guth<eric at efratnetworks.com>
> To:"app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org"  <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Tait T2000 Radio to URI interface
> Message-ID:
> 	<4198F8C5954EED46AFC553CAFC879B7C42D5652B36 at MBX75.ad2.softcom.biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Has anyone made an interface cable from a DMK URI to a Tait  T2000?
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> 4Z1UG / WA6IGR
> Allstar Node: 28422


From eric at efratnetworks.com  Sun Feb 22 19:48:56 2015
From: eric at efratnetworks.com (Eric Guth)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 14:48:56 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Tait T2000 Radio to URI interface
In-Reply-To: <54EA1055.3060409@msgstor.com>
References: <mailman.1.1424624403.32394.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
	<54EA1055.3060409@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <4198F8C5954EED46AFC553CAFC879B7C42D5652B4B@MBX75.ad2.softcom.biz>

Thanks Steve.  I have the manual and understand what to do.  I am working on a Maxtrac tonight and an URI.  What I really need is the programming software for the T2035 and T2040.  I have up to T2020.   Can you help? 


-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Steve Zingman
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 7:22 PM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Tait T2000 Radio to URI interface

Eric,
I have done a URI to a T2000. All the signals you need are on the interface board. I don't know if there is a standard pinout of the DB9.
I can send you copies of the service manual if that will help.

73, Steve N4IRS


On 02/22/2015 12:00 PM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:23:34 -0500
> From: Eric Guth<eric at efratnetworks.com> To:"app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org"  
> <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Tait T2000 Radio to URI interface
> Message-ID:
> 	<4198F8C5954EED46AFC553CAFC879B7C42D5652B36 at MBX75.ad2.softcom.biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Has anyone made an interface cable from a DMK URI to a Tait  T2000?
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> 4Z1UG / WA6IGR
> Allstar Node: 28422
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From telesistant at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 24 20:55:19 2015
From: telesistant at hotmail.com (Jim Duuuude)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:55:19 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] test
Message-ID: <BLU180-W83BA5036D57B3DAFB2EF49B1160@phx.gbl>

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From szingman at msgstor.com  Tue Feb 24 21:10:57 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:10:57 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Test, please ignore
Message-ID: <54ECE8E1.7030906@msgstor.com>

testing 1 2 3 ...

-- 
"Anything is possible or impossible if you don't know
what you are talking about." 1st Law of Logic



From szingman at msgstor.com  Tue Feb 24 21:13:00 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:13:00 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Asterisk on a Raspberry Pi 2
Message-ID: <54ECE95C.5060404@msgstor.com>

Just a note to let people know that we have AllStar Asterisk running on 
the new Raspberry Pi 2.

Right now it's in alpha test. I can report that it works great. No USB 
or network issues. Audio is clean and sounding good. CPU utilization is 
very low. Right now, we are using chan_simpleusb, but we will be testing 
chan_usbradio soon.

We will continue to support the Pi 1, Odroid and the BBB Debian 
platforms for the foreseeable future. Any enhancements that can be back 
ported to the older platforms will be.

If all goes well, we will proceed to Beta test on Sunday March 1st.

Stay tuned.

73, N4IRS and N4IRR

-- 
"Anything is possible or impossible if you don't know
what you are talking about." 1st Law of Logic



From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Tue Feb 24 21:41:05 2015
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:41:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Asterisk on a Raspberry Pi 2
In-Reply-To: <54ECE95C.5060404@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1502241639220.5710-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Hi Steve,

That sounds fantastic! I'm looking forward to a downloadable "flash and 
go" SD card image.

73, David KB4FXC




On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Steve  Zingman wrote:

> Just a note to let people know that we have AllStar Asterisk running on 
> the new Raspberry Pi 2.
> 
> Right now it's in alpha test. I can report that it works great. No USB 
> or network issues. Audio is clean and sounding good. CPU utilization is 
> very low. Right now, we are using chan_simpleusb, but we will be testing 
> chan_usbradio soon.
> 
> We will continue to support the Pi 1, Odroid and the BBB Debian 
> platforms for the foreseeable future. Any enhancements that can be back 
> ported to the older platforms will be.
> 
> If all goes well, we will proceed to Beta test on Sunday March 1st.
> 
> Stay tuned.
> 
> 73, N4IRS and N4IRR
> 
> 



From ipscone at msdsite.com  Tue Feb 24 21:56:32 2015
From: ipscone at msdsite.com (Mike)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:56:32 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Having trouble installing ACID
Message-ID: <8af0a57755468e602db58903aabfea8e.squirrel@QuestMail.FutureQuest.net:443>

I'm trying to put ACID on an x86 machine.  This machine is dedicated to
linux type installations.  I have had Fedora, Ubuntu, centos (for IRLP)
installed and it's working fine for those.

But I wanted to try out Allstar so I downloaded the ACID distribution and
tried installing it.  It gets to the Phase 1 part and just hangs.  I get
something like: hda: interrupt lost.

I have googled this and people suggest hard drive problems.  But I doubt I
have any hardware issues, since I can install other software.  As a test,
I tried installing Fedora 21 and had no problem installing and using it.

Any idea why ACID might not be installing?

Mike



From ipscone at msdsite.com  Tue Feb 24 22:45:37 2015
From: ipscone at msdsite.com (Mike)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:45:37 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar using Surface Pro 2
Message-ID: <49c19187807cad2f59056c2ce64f29bc.squirrel@QuestMail.FutureQuest.net:443>

Could an allstar node be made using a Surface Pro 2?  I just happen to
have one of those sitting around.  Not that I particularly want to do
this, but I was thinking about putting linux on it, in a virtual machine.

Then it occurred to me, "could an Allstar node be made with the Surface
Pro 2, running ACID distribution in a virtual machine?"

If it can,
Would it be a difficult job or easy job?
Would it be as easy as installing ACID distro on any other platform?

If it cannot
Could it be run, directly (no virtual machine)
Same other questions?

Thanks,
Mike



From szingman at msgstor.com  Tue Feb 24 22:58:58 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:58:58 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CAADqvQB02izxTt7a+cHH_J9z4j7KjaZr-Lg=ZXRJjJC76XK6QA@mail.gmail.com>

David,

Thanks for kind words. As you know we don't do "flash and go images"

This is for people that want to "roll their own" But, I think you knew that.


73, Steve N4IRS

> Hi Steve,

> That sounds fantastic! I'm looking forward to a downloadable "flash and
> go" SD card image.

> 73, David KB4FXC




On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Steve  Zingman wrote:

>* Just a note to let people know that we have AllStar Asterisk running on
*>* the new Raspberry Pi 2.
*> >* Right now it's in alpha test. I can report that it works great. No USB
*>* or network issues. Audio is clean and sounding good. CPU utilization is
*>* very low. Right now, we are using chan_simpleusb, but we will be testing
*>* chan_usbradio soon.
*> >* We will continue to support the Pi 1, Odroid and the BBB Debian
*>* platforms for the foreseeable future. Any enhancements that can be back
*>* ported to the older platforms will be.
*> >* If all goes well, we will proceed to Beta test on Sunday March 1st.
*> >* Stay tuned.
*> >* 73, N4IRS and N4IRR
*> >
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Tue Feb 24 23:06:58 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:06:58 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar Asterisk on a Raspberry Pi 2
Message-ID: <CAADqvQADXtLF0X-SE==gLWTQp1SC3tKntMtpiHFWoQJ5T+Q10Q@mail.gmail.com>

David,

Thanks for kind words. As you know we don't do "flash and go images"

This is for people that want to "roll their own" But, I think you knew that.


73, Steve N4IRS

> Hi Steve,

> That sounds fantastic! I'm looking forward to a downloadable "flash and
> go" SD card image.

> 73, David KB4FXC




On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Steve  Zingman wrote:

>* Just a note to let people know that we have AllStar Asterisk running on
*>* the new Raspberry Pi 2.
*> >* Right now it's in alpha test. I can report that it works great. No USB
*>* or network issues. Audio is clean and sounding good. CPU utilization is
*>* very low. Right now, we are using chan_simpleusb, but we will be testing
*>* chan_usbradio soon.
*> >* We will continue to support the Pi 1, Odroid and the BBB Debian
*>* platforms for the foreseeable future. Any enhancements that can be back
*>* ported to the older platforms will be.
*> >* If all goes well, we will proceed to Beta test on Sunday March 1st.
*> >* Stay tuned.
*> >* 73, N4IRS and N4IRR
*> >
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From federico at electronicacelular.com  Tue Feb 24 23:13:38 2015
From: federico at electronicacelular.com (Federico Boesche)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:13:38 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <CAADqvQB02izxTt7a+cHH_J9z4j7KjaZr-Lg=ZXRJjJC76XK6QA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAADqvQB02izxTt7a+cHH_J9z4j7KjaZr-Lg=ZXRJjJC76XK6QA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEK+a-pa8bmqM93YcU43Wr_1oe1TFkJ65JKsVJEkk7DVPA5mkg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, for this great news!

Federico Boesche
General Manager
Electr?nica Celular, S.A.

GUA: +502 5208 4013
skype: fboesche


On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> Thanks for kind words. As you know we don't do "flash and go images"
>
> This is for people that want to "roll their own" But, I think you knew that.
>
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
> > Hi Steve,
>
> > That sounds fantastic! I'm looking forward to a downloadable "flash and
> > go" SD card image.
>
> > 73, David KB4FXC
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Steve  Zingman wrote:
>
> >* Just a note to let people know that we have AllStar Asterisk running on
> *>* the new Raspberry Pi 2.
> *> >* Right now it's in alpha test. I can report that it works great. No USB
> *>* or network issues. Audio is clean and sounding good. CPU utilization is
> *>* very low. Right now, we are using chan_simpleusb, but we will be testing
> *>* chan_usbradio soon.
> *> >* We will continue to support the Pi 1, Odroid and the BBB Debian
> *>* platforms for the foreseeable future. Any enhancements that can be back
> *>* ported to the older platforms will be.
> *> >* If all goes well, we will proceed to Beta test on Sunday March 1st.
> *> >* Stay tuned.
> *> >* 73, N4IRS and N4IRR
> *> >
>
>
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From mike at midnighteng.com  Wed Feb 25 00:06:02 2015
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:06:02 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Having trouble installing ACID
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References: <8af0a57755468e602db58903aabfea8e.squirrel@QuestMail.FutureQuest.net:443>
Message-ID: <89a195cd4d00d6a61ec4d9c66be84d31.squirrel@webmail.midnighteng.com>



This "could be" a plug-n-play irq sharing conflict with the HDD controller
interface.
In your bios,
Disable any unused built-in hardware including unused usb hubs and force a
update/reset pnp systems.
Not much harm if it has nothing to do with it.
Many newer systems will not allow you to force update to pnp irq's.

If you find for sure it is irq share conflict, and you are unable to shake
it loose, let me know, I have some other strange methods.

...mike/kb8jnm

> I'm trying to put ACID on an x86 machine.  This machine is dedicated to
> linux type installations.  I have had Fedora, Ubuntu, centos (for IRLP)
> installed and it's working fine for those.
>
> But I wanted to try out Allstar so I downloaded the ACID distribution and
> tried installing it.  It gets to the Phase 1 part and just hangs.  I get
> something like: hda: interrupt lost.
>
> I have googled this and people suggest hard drive problems.  But I doubt I
> have any hardware issues, since I can install other software.  As a test,
> I tried installing Fedora 21 and had no problem installing and using it.
>
> Any idea why ACID might not be installing?
>
> Mike
>
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From lorentedford at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 15:44:58 2015
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:44:58 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] guidance
Message-ID: <CAK=eTyiDJhweBM=k1gJShfuPV_ar2pz8qzb1VA7hBJukK_bzOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone
 I am looking for guidance on how to setup just an allstar hub on my vps
its running Debian 7.5 and was curious could i in theory just install the
latest dsitro of Asterisk and plug the config files in to have a system hub
the reason for this is trying to cut down on bandwidth at the repeater site
and leave that for my VPS which has plenty of bandwidth to handle just
about what ever anyone wanted to throw at it..

If there is some what a tutorial or reccomendation on how to do this please
let me know i am very interested..


Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: lorentedford at live.com
Email: lorentedford at aol.com
Email: LorenCS at Ltcraft.net
Email: lorentedford at yahoo.com
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Email: loren at richlandcountycomputers.com
Email: loren at newwavesucks.com
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Feb 25 16:13:08 2015
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:13:08 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] guidance
In-Reply-To: <WM!ecb1275ca9e25c3c75a7ff21b62a9952a049f2abb7b761c84624aba386fc7ec73979afe1b62b1be50c3ab82ddb1e5d64!@asav-2.01.com>
References: <CAK=eTyiDJhweBM=k1gJShfuPV_ar2pz8qzb1VA7hBJukK_bzOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<WM!ecb1275ca9e25c3c75a7ff21b62a9952a049f2abb7b761c84624aba386fc7ec73979afe1b62b1be50c3ab82ddb1e5d64!@asav-2.01.com>
Message-ID: <54EDF494.5040800@bryanfields.net>

On 2/25/15 10:44 AM, Loren Tedford wrote:
> Hello everyone 
>  I am looking for guidance on how to setup just an allstar hub on my vps its
> running Debian 7.5 and was curious could i in theory just install the latest
> dsitro of Asterisk and plug the config files in to have a system hub the
> reason for this is trying to cut down on bandwidth at the repeater site and
> leave that for my VPS which has plenty of bandwidth to handle just about what
> ever anyone wanted to throw at it..
> 
> If there is some what a tutorial or reccomendation on how to do this please
> let me know i am very interested..

Asterisk does not like being run in a virtual environment, unless you pin the
CPU's to a given vm in my experience.


-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net


From szingman at msgstor.com  Wed Feb 25 16:43:27 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:43:27 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] guidance
Message-ID: <54EDFBAF.7090108@msgstor.com>

Loren,
I can't speak to VPS, but I have been running a hub for quite a few years on VMware VSphere with good results. I'm running Debian 7.x and I compiled dahdi and Asterisk I don't know if you could do it with the version out of the repo, but give it a try.

73, Steve N4IRS


> Hello everyone
> I am looking for guidance on how to setup just an allstar hub on my vps
> its running Debian 7.5 and was curious could i in theory just install the
> latest dsitro of Asterisk and plug the config files in to have a system hub
> the reason for this is trying to cut down on bandwidth at the repeater site
> and leave that for my VPS which has plenty of bandwidth to handle just
> about what ever anyone wanted to throw at it..

> If there is some what a tutorial or reccomendation on how to do this please
> let me know i am very interested..



From lorentedford at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 16:49:15 2015
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:49:15 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] guidance
In-Reply-To: <54EDFBAF.7090108@msgstor.com>
References: <54EDFBAF.7090108@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <CAK=eTyhXWFo444pM4X14ix1FDSATu2OLOBrumvAd47qsYZq-Jw@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds good I am experminting in a virtualized environment here at the
house before i actually try it on my big vps lol.. Dont want to disrupt
much traffic today might hear about it.. Anyway I am running Debian Wheezy
and was curious to the steps i see you said you compiled by source code but
was it similar to this article i found here.. Below..
https://github.com/KD8EYF/squeezeterisk



THIS IS THE SOURCES FOR ASTERISK, ZAPTEL, AND OTHER RELATED FILED FOR
INSTALLATION OF AN ALLSTAR NODE ON DEBIAN SQUEEZE
BUILT AND TESTING ON A CLEAN BARBONES INSTALL OF
debian-6.0.5-amd64-CD-1.iso IN VIRTUALBOX

INSTRUCTIONS
----------------------

Install debian Squeeze via debian-6.0.5-(arch)-cd-1.iso
Select "Yes" when asked "Use a network mirror?"
Deselect "Desktop Environment"
Select a network mirror close to to you
Only Selected package is "Standard system"


POST INSTALL
-----------------------
apt-get install git-core
cd /usr/src
git clone https://github.com/KD8EYF/squeezeterisk.git
./squeezeterisk/scripts/allstar-install.sh



Think i am going to try this on my test server and just see what type of
error i get

Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: lorentedford at live.com
Email: lorentedford at aol.com
Email: LorenCS at Ltcraft.net
Email: lorentedford at yahoo.com
Email: loren at lorentedford.com <loren at lorentedford.com>
Email: loren at richlandcountycomputers.com
Email: loren at newwavesucks.com
Phone:
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://www.Ltcraft.net <http://www.ltcraft.net/>
http://www.richlandcountycomputers.com
http://kc9zhv.lorentedford.com
http://newwavesucks.com

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
wrote:

> Loren,
> I can't speak to VPS, but I have been running a hub for quite a few years
> on VMware VSphere with good results. I'm running Debian 7.x and I compiled
> dahdi and Asterisk I don't know if you could do it with the version out of
> the repo, but give it a try.
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
>
>  Hello everyone
>> I am looking for guidance on how to setup just an allstar hub on my vps
>> its running Debian 7.5 and was curious could i in theory just install the
>> latest dsitro of Asterisk and plug the config files in to have a system
>> hub
>> the reason for this is trying to cut down on bandwidth at the repeater
>> site
>> and leave that for my VPS which has plenty of bandwidth to handle just
>> about what ever anyone wanted to throw at it..
>>
>
>  If there is some what a tutorial or reccomendation on how to do this
>> please
>> let me know i am very interested..
>>
>
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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Wed Feb 25 16:55:50 2015
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:55:50 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] guidance
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even if only working as a switch point without having to do the DSP stuff (ie a node just running Zap/Pseudo?)

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> On Feb 25, 2015, at 08:13, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/25/15 10:44 AM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>> Hello everyone 
>> I am looking for guidance on how to setup just an allstar hub on my vps its
>> running Debian 7.5 and was curious could i in theory just install the latest
>> dsitro of Asterisk and plug the config files in to have a system hub the
>> reason for this is trying to cut down on bandwidth at the repeater site and
>> leave that for my VPS which has plenty of bandwidth to handle just about what
>> ever anyone wanted to throw at it..
>> 
>> If there is some what a tutorial or reccomendation on how to do this please
>> let me know i am very interested..
> 
> Asterisk does not like being run in a virtual environment, unless you pin the
> CPU's to a given vm in my experience.
> 
> 
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Wed Feb 25 17:04:35 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 12:04:35 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] guidance
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Loren,
Yes, the basics are the same. You are going to use dahdi in place of zaptel.
I did not use his script. The basics are as follows:

Install the base OS
Install required libraries
download source from svn
download dahdi from asterisk.org
compile and install dahdi
compile and install asterisk.
edit configuration files.

I would look at his script for pointers. I'll dig out my notes.

73, Steve N4IRS


On 2/25/2015 11:49 AM, Loren Tedford wrote:
> Sounds good I am experminting in a virtualized environment here at the 
> house before i actually try it on my big vps lol.. Dont want to 
> disrupt much traffic today might hear about it.. Anyway I am running 
> Debian Wheezy and was curious to the steps i see you said you compiled 
> by source code but was it similar to this article i found here.. Below..
> https://github.com/KD8EYF/squeezeterisk
> THIS IS THE SOURCES FOR ASTERISK, ZAPTEL, AND OTHER RELATED FILED FOR INSTALLATION OF AN ALLSTAR NODE ON DEBIAN SQUEEZE
> BUILT AND TESTING ON A CLEAN BARBONES INSTALL OF debian-6.0.5-amd64-CD-1.iso IN VIRTUALBOX
>
> INSTRUCTIONS
> ----------------------
>
> Install debian Squeeze via debian-6.0.5-(arch)-cd-1.iso
> Select "Yes" when asked "Use a network mirror?"
> Deselect "Desktop Environment"
> Select a network mirror close to to you
> Only Selected package is "Standard system"
>
>
> POST INSTALL
> -----------------------
> apt-get install git-core
> cd /usr/src
> git clonehttps://github.com/KD8EYF/squeezeterisk.git
> ./squeezeterisk/scripts/allstar-install.sh
>
>
> Think i am going to try this on my test server and just see what type 
> of error i get
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
> Email: lorentedford at gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>
> Email: lorentedford at live.com <mailto:lorentedford at live.com>
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> Email: loren at lorentedford.com <mailto:loren at lorentedford.com>
> Email: loren at richlandcountycomputers.com 
> <mailto:loren at richlandcountycomputers.com>
> Email: loren at newwavesucks.com <mailto:loren at newwavesucks.com>
> Phone:
> http://www.lorentedford.com <http://www.lorentedford.com/>
> http://www.Ltcraft.net <http://www.ltcraft.net/>
> http://www.richlandcountycomputers.com 
> <http://www.richlandcountycomputers.com/>
> http://kc9zhv.lorentedford.com <http://kc9zhv.lorentedford.com/>
> http://newwavesucks.com
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com 
> <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>
>     Loren,
>     I can't speak to VPS, but I have been running a hub for quite a
>     few years on VMware VSphere with good results. I'm running Debian
>     7.x and I compiled dahdi and Asterisk I don't know if you could do
>     it with the version out of the repo, but give it a try.
>
>     73, Steve N4IRS
>
>
>         Hello everyone
>         I am looking for guidance on how to setup just an allstar hub
>         on my vps
>         its running Debian 7.5 and was curious could i in theory just
>         install the
>         latest dsitro of Asterisk and plug the config files in to have
>         a system hub
>         the reason for this is trying to cut down on bandwidth at the
>         repeater site
>         and leave that for my VPS which has plenty of bandwidth to
>         handle just
>         about what ever anyone wanted to throw at it..
>
>
>         If there is some what a tutorial or reccomendation on how to
>         do this please
>         let me know i am very interested..
>
>
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From cleb at defcon-3.net  Fri Feb 27 00:33:14 2015
From: cleb at defcon-3.net (Caleb Pal)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 16:33:14 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Strange RTCM Behavior
Message-ID: <54EFBB4A.70702@defcon-3.net>

Hello All,

We have a two site Voted Simulcast consisting of 2 UHF Motorola 
Quantars, Thunderbolts, and 2 RTCM's. Master site is North, secondary 
Voter/TX site is West. Recently I have noticed significant choppy audio, 
mostly absent a PL, being transmitted from the West Site. It appears the 
repeater is keying/dekeying a couple times a second. On the West RTCM 
console I see:

02/27/2015 00:23:15.592  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
02/27/2015 00:23:25.532  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
02/27/2015 00:23:35.532  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60

Physical link between the sites is over a Ubiquiti 5GHz link, then 
fiber. IPSEC end to end. Voter Ping output is below.

PING (West): Packets tx: 100, rx: 100, oos: 0, Avg.: 13.940 ms
PING (West):  Worst: 22 ms, Best: 7 ms, 100.0% Packets successfully 
received (0.0% loss)

Standard ping between Voter and West RTCM:

3297 packets transmitted, 3293 received, 0% packet loss, time 3297289ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.953/4.166/111.124/3.812 ms

TX/RX buffers are 250ms. When I restart the West RTCM, the symptoms 
resolve for a hour or so, then begin to occur again.

System was previously functioning normally. Only change has been from 
ADSL to fiber at the North site. West site was down for 2-3 weeks while 
the line was switched, so I can't absolutely correlate this issue to the 
connection change.

Pings when the issue is occurring look good (<10ms voter to West RTCM)

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Caleb







From electricity440 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 27 03:27:53 2015
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:27:53 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Use of a bridge
Message-ID: <CAJNyT0_DSNoa88vz5zxF5DUyHRaDgFL+y7ZMC-U0RsDCa47taw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I understand this is a touchy subject, and there are a LOT of issues about
cross linking AllStar and IRLP but I have a special case/problem I am
trying to solve.

I am net control of the Amateur Satellite which I air from a link system in
Colorado to the East Coast IRLP reflector, which until a month ago had
AllStar 27339. The node has been down for some reason, but I still *have
permission *to use the IRLP reflector with AllStar because of special
permission from dave cameron for IRLP 9050 to have AllStar and my net is
Scheduled there. Everyone on 9050 is missing the net and are like "What
happened to it"?

Does anybody know about or have any bridges they would be willing to let me
use for my net?

My net runs Every Thursday at 7:00 PM Mountain time or 9:00PM East Coast
time.

73
Skyler KD?WHB
-- 
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amsatnet.info
KD?WHB
electricity440 at gmail.com
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From doug at crompton.com  Fri Feb 27 04:42:32 2015
From: doug at crompton.com (Doug Crompton)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:42:32 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Use of a bridge
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT0_DSNoa88vz5zxF5DUyHRaDgFL+y7ZMC-U0RsDCa47taw@mail.gmail.com>
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Skyler,

 That bridge is down due to failure not intentionally taken offline. Dick who runs that reflector is aware of it but he is in FL and the bridge is in NY.  I am sure he intends to get it running as soon as he can so I would just wait until he does. Besides it would have to be with his permission to put something else on there anyway.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:27:53 -0700
From: electricity440 at gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Use of a bridge

Hello, 

I understand this is a touchy subject, and there are a LOT of issues about cross linking AllStar and IRLP but I have a special case/problem I am trying to solve. 

I am net control of the Amateur Satellite which I air from a link system in Colorado to the East Coast IRLP reflector, which until a month ago had AllStar 27339. The node has been down for some reason, but I still have permission to use the IRLP reflector with AllStar because of special permission from dave cameron for IRLP 9050 to have AllStar and my net is Scheduled there. Everyone on 9050 is missing the net and are like "What happened to it"?

Does anybody know about or have any bridges they would be willing to let me use for my net? 

My net runs Every Thursday at 7:00 PM Mountain time or 9:00PM East Coast time.
73
Skyler KD?WHB
-- 
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From lorentedford at gmail.com  Fri Feb 27 12:45:48 2015
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 06:45:48 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Guidance Hub Install
Message-ID: <CAK=eTyiNjiO5UB_eF6dfOEe+F33+yVPgGxO=ihXxcWBg6OBD2A@mail.gmail.com>

I am in the middle of trying to figure out how the installation of allstar
can be put on anyone of the following distros that are available to me in
my VPS
Debian 7 *Preferred install if possible*
Centos 7
Ubuntu 14.04LTS
Ubuntu 14.10

I have tried many different methods including replacing zaptel with Dahdi
not sure i did things right or not but still no luck with the installation
here is what I found out so far my Linode has custom Kernal headers this is
very bad for any type of installation like this so here is the tutorial i
found to change the linux headers.
https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/run-a-distributionsupplied-kernel-with-pvgrub#debian-7-wheezy

My current installation is Debian 7 But i have tried all of the above
listed distributions with no success..

So here so far is my command line step by step on this machine roughly

First step was to change Linux Headers to generic headers

   1.

   apt-get update

   2.

   apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded

   3.

   apt-get install linux-image-amd64

   4.

   mkdir /boot/grub

   5.

   apt-get install grub-legacy

   6.

   grub-set-default 1    (Generates /boot/grub/menu.lst )

   7.

   update-grub

   8. nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   Edited some timer to 10 and updated
   kopt=

    kopt=root=/dev/xvda console=hvc0 ro quiet   Double check groot=(hd0)

   9.

   update-grub

   10. In the Linode Manager, edit your Linode?s configuration profile to
   use either *pv-grub-x86_32* or *pv-grub-x86_64* as the kernel, depending
   on the version of Debian you have deployed (32-bit or 64-bit).   (My host
   only offers x86_64
   11. reboot from dashboard after adjusting some minor settings in the
   profile.
   12. In Console     uname -a
   13. Response from     uname -a  Linux (none) 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
   3.2.65-1+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux



Ok now we first installed asterisk just regular using
apt-get install asterisk-dahdi
Not exactly sure what it did things at this point have now become sketchy
because i am unsure where the config files for allstar should be also i am
use to the centos based acid and so I think i am getting confused some
where in the installation but here is my history so far on this machine..
1  apt-get update
    2  apt-cache search dahdi
    3  apt-get install asterisk-dahdi
    4  cd /tmp
    5  wget http://dl.allstarlink.org/installcd/zsync-0.6.1.tar.bz2
    6  tar -jxvf zsync-0.6.1.tar.bz2
    7  cd zsync-0.6.1
    8  ./configure
    9  make
   10  make install
   11  cd /etc/init.d
   12  wget http://dl.allstarlink.org/installcd/rc.updatenodelist
   13  mv rc.updatenodelist updatenodelist
   14  chmod 755 updatenodelist
   15  ./updatenodelist &
   16  nano /etc/init.d/asterisk
   17  ./updatenodelist &
   18  ./asterisk start
   19  nano /etc/init.d/asterisk
   20  ./asterisk start
   21  ./asterisk restart
   22  ./updatenodelist &
   23  ./asterisk restart
   24  ./updatenodelist &
   25  ls
   26  cd /etc/asterisk
   27  nano rpt.conf
   28  nodesetup.sh
   29  ls
   30  nano /var/lib/asterisk/keys/allstar.pub
   31  clear
   32  apt-get install
   33  apt-get install curl
   34  cd /usr/src
   35  wget http://x.allstarlink.org/svn-trunk.tar.gz -O- | tar xzv
   36  mv trunk astsrc
   37  cd astsrc
   38  make upgrade-acid
   39  menuselect.makeopts
   40  service asterisk restart
   41  cd ..
   42  apt-get install git-core
   43  git clone https://github.com/KD8EYF/squeezeterisk.git
   44  ./squeezeterisk/scripts/allstar-install.sh
   45  apt-get update
   46  apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded
   47  apt-get install linux-image-amd64
   48  mkdir /boot/grub
   49  apt-get install grub-legacy
   50  grub-set-default 1
   51  update-grub
   52  nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
   53  nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
   54  update-grub
   55  history

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Another thought on installation was to take the current Acid Distro and
install it on linode.. So here is my steps so far to this one however I
will tell you that for some reason we are stuck on a grub boot loader and
not getting anywhere at the moment with the installation of acid.
https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/running-a-custom-linux-distro-on-a-linode-vps


Ok I followed the directions and wound up with the below attached below the
line the kernal in my Virtualized vm shows this..

The attachment is a screen shot of the vm information what is the thoughts
of being able to make this work really would like this one to be successful
if possible..




-----------------------------------------------------------------




GNU GRUB version 0.97 (1048576K lower / 0K upper memory)

[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For
the first word, TAB lists possible command
completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
completions of a device/filename. ]

grubdom>
Possible commands are: background blocklist boot bootp border cat
chainloader
clear cmp color configfile debug dhcp find foreground fstest geometry halt
help
hide ifconfig initrd kernel lock makeactive map module modulenounzip pager
par
tnew parttype password pause print rarp read reboot root rootnoverify
savedefau
lt shade splashimage terminal terminfo tftpserver unhide viewport

grubdom> boot

Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting

grubdom>


Hello,

It looks like your Linode is loading GRUB, the bootloader, but doesn't know
about any distributions it can boot. Could you provide the contents of the
following file in the image you uploaded to your Linode?

/boot/grub/menu.lst

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Jon F.
Linode Support

# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE: You do not have a /boot partition. This means that
# all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg.
# root (hd0,0)
# kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda1
# initrd /boot/initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title CentOS (2.6.18-402.el5)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-402.el5 ro root=LABEL=/
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-402.el5.img
title CentOS (2.6.18-274.el5)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-274.el5 ro root=LABEL=/
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-274.el5.img


Hello there,

Lets see if your kernel exists. Please boot into Rescue Mode, then mount
the affected disk [0][1] - after you have done so provide the output of the
following:

ls /media/xvda/boot/

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Jonathan

[0]
https://www.linode.com/docs/troubleshooting/rescue-and-rebuild#booting-into-rescue-mode
[1]
https://www.linode.com/docs/troubleshooting/rescue-and-rebuild#mounting-disks


oot at hvc0:~# ls /media/xvda/boot/
ls: cannot access /media/xvda/boot/: No such file or directory
nano /etc/fstab shows this

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Lines containing "Added by Finnix" are managed by rebuildfstab.
/dev/xvdh1 /media/xvdh1 iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0 # (Finnix 109$
/dev/xvda /media/xvda ext4 noauto 0 0 # Added by Fi$
/dev/xvdb /media/xvdb ext4 noauto 0 0 # Added by Fi$

On the Virtual machine i imported the information over on has this in the
fstab
nano /etc/fstab
LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
LABEL=SWAP-hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0


I realized a big problem going to redo the swap and try again look at ext4
it should be ext3


Is your /media/xvda/boot/ showing your kernel? Were you able to adjust your
fstab?


root at hvc0:/media/xvda# ls
lost+found sda1
root at hvc0:/media/xvda# ls
lost+found sda1
root at hvc0:/media/xvda# cd sda1
root at hvc0:/media/xvda/sda1# ls
bin dev halt lib media mnt proc sbin srv tmp var
boot etc home lost+found misc opt root selinux sys usr
root at hvc0:/media/xvda/sda1#

Hi there,

I'm sorry to hear you're having issues!

Unfortunately, Linode does not provide support for software installation,
configuration, or troubleshooting. In this case, we always recommend you
reach out to either the developer that you are working with, or our
fantastic user community over either our forums or IRC.

Our community forum can be found at the following url:

https://forum.linode.com/

We apologize for any inconvenience this issue has caused. If there is
anything else we can do for you, please let us know.

Regards,
Joel



Ok I will be eventually posting this thorough out some forums but is there
a Repository for installing Allstars custom software that would probably
make things easier if there was repos and what in Allstar is hanging up the
installation..


Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: lorentedford at live.com
Email: lorentedford at aol.com
Email: LorenCS at Ltcraft.net
Email: lorentedford at yahoo.com
Email: loren at lorentedford.com <loren at lorentedford.com>
Email: loren at richlandcountycomputers.com
Email: loren at newwavesucks.com
Phone:
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://www.Ltcraft.net <http://www.ltcraft.net/>
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Feb 27 14:54:32 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:54:32 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 72, Issue 71
In-Reply-To: <mailman.65.1425041149.373.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.65.1425041149.373.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54F08528.5050706@msgstor.com>

Loren,
I've created a Linode account for myself.
Give me a couple of hours and I'll have some answers.
I've never tried a 64 bit install.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 2/27/2015 7:45 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 06:45:48 -0600
> From: Loren Tedford<lorentedford at gmail.com>
> To: app_rpt mailing list<app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Guidance Hub Install
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAK=eTyiNjiO5UB_eF6dfOEe+F33+yVPgGxO=ihXxcWBg6OBD2A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> I am in the middle of trying to figure out how the installation of allstar
> can be put on anyone of the following distros that are available to me in
> my VPS
> Debian 7*Preferred install if possible*
> Centos 7
> Ubuntu 14.04LTS
> Ubuntu 14.10
>
> I have tried many different methods including replacing zaptel with Dahdi
> not sure i did things right or not but still no luck with the installation
> here is what I found out so far my Linode has custom Kernal headers this is
> very bad for any type of installation like this so here is the tutorial i
> found to change the linux headers.
> https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/run-a-distributionsupplied-kernel-with-pvgrub#debian-7-wheezy
>
> My current installation is Debian 7 But i have tried all of the above
> listed distributions with no success..

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From tim.sawyer at mac.com  Fri Feb 27 14:56:29 2015
From: tim.sawyer at mac.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 06:56:29 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Strange RTCM Behavior
In-Reply-To: <54EFBB4A.70702@defcon-3.net>
References: <54EFBB4A.70702@defcon-3.net>
Message-ID: <8B46C016-41D6-4B53-ADCB-7AE3AEDCB306@mac.com>

Do the pings ?wind up and pitch?? i.e., no immediate response then they all come back in sorta of a batch? That would indicate traffic shaping on the new network.

The "packets out of bounds" message means the buffers are too small. Is the RTCM buffer set at 2000 (250ms)? 

One thing you might try is to change the port. Port 667 is viewed as a bad guy by some ISPs. I?ve been using port 2074 on problem systems. 

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Caleb Pal <cleb at defcon-3.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> We have a two site Voted Simulcast consisting of 2 UHF Motorola Quantars, Thunderbolts, and 2 RTCM's. Master site is North, secondary Voter/TX site is West. Recently I have noticed significant choppy audio, mostly absent a PL, being transmitted from the West Site. It appears the repeater is keying/dekeying a couple times a second. On the West RTCM console I see:
> 
> 02/27/2015 00:23:15.592  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
> 02/27/2015 00:23:25.532  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
> 02/27/2015 00:23:35.532  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
> 
> Physical link between the sites is over a Ubiquiti 5GHz link, then fiber. IPSEC end to end. Voter Ping output is below.
> 
> PING (West): Packets tx: 100, rx: 100, oos: 0, Avg.: 13.940 ms
> PING (West):  Worst: 22 ms, Best: 7 ms, 100.0% Packets successfully received (0.0% loss)
> 
> Standard ping between Voter and West RTCM:
> 
> 3297 packets transmitted, 3293 received, 0% packet loss, time 3297289ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.953/4.166/111.124/3.812 ms
> 
> TX/RX buffers are 250ms. When I restart the West RTCM, the symptoms resolve for a hour or so, then begin to occur again.
> 
> System was previously functioning normally. Only change has been from ADSL to fiber at the North site. West site was down for 2-3 weeks while the line was switched, so I can't absolutely correlate this issue to the connection change.
> 
> Pings when the issue is occurring look good (<10ms voter to West RTCM)
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Caleb
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Feb 27 15:53:50 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:53:50 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Guidance Hub Install
In-Reply-To: <CAK=eTyjphKXvhews4_tNzW85pet+iiWRKYLt8pH8mdD8Q+LXmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.65.1425041149.373.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>	<54F08528.5050706@msgstor.com>
	<CAK=eTyjphKXvhews4_tNzW85pet+iiWRKYLt8pH8mdD8Q+LXmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54F0930E.5040402@msgstor.com>

Loren,
It's up and running as node 2153.
Now I have to figure out how to let you clone it.
I'll also grab my bash history...

73, Steve


On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com 
<mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>
>     Loren,
>     I've created a Linode account for myself.
>     Give me a couple of hours and I'll have some answers.
>     I've never tried a 64 bit install.
>
>     73, Steve N4IRS
>
>     On 2/27/2015 7:45 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org
>     <mailto:app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org> wrote:
>>     Message: 4
>>     Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 06:45:48 -0600
>>     From: Loren Tedford<lorentedford at gmail.com>  <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>
>>     To: app_rpt mailing list<app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>  <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>     Subject: [App_rpt-users] Guidance Hub Install
>>     Message-ID:
>>     	<CAK=eTyiNjiO5UB_eF6dfOEe+F33+yVPgGxO=ihXxcWBg6OBD2A at mail.gmail.com>  <mailto:CAK=eTyiNjiO5UB_eF6dfOEe+F33+yVPgGxO=ihXxcWBg6OBD2A at mail.gmail.com>
>>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>>     I am in the middle of trying to figure out how the installation of allstar
>>     can be put on anyone of the following distros that are available to me in
>>     my VPS
>>     Debian 7**Preferred install if possible**
>>     Centos 7
>>     Ubuntu 14.04LTS
>>     Ubuntu 14.10
>>
>>     I have tried many different methods including replacing zaptel with Dahdi
>>     not sure i did things right or not but still no luck with the installation
>>     here is what I found out so far my Linode has custom Kernal headers this is
>>     very bad for any type of installation like this so here is the tutorial i
>>     found to change the linux headers.
>>     https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/run-a-distributionsupplied-kernel-with-pvgrub#debian-7-wheezy
>>
>>     My current installation is Debian 7 But i have tried all of the above
>>     listed distributions with no success..
>
>     -- 
>     "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
>     1st Law of Logic
>
>
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Feb 27 18:08:45 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:08:45 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Guidance Hub Install
In-Reply-To: <mailman.65.1425041149.373.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.65.1425041149.373.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
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Loren,
login to your fresh server
cd /srv
wget https://www.dropbox.com/s/9sro3fdi3zvgzzz/linode.tar.gz
tar zxvf linode.tar.gz
Read the README

Hope this helps

73, Steve N4IRS

On 2/27/2015 7:45 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 06:45:48 -0600
> From: Loren Tedford<lorentedford at gmail.com>
> To: app_rpt mailing list<app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Guidance Hub Install
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAK=eTyiNjiO5UB_eF6dfOEe+F33+yVPgGxO=ihXxcWBg6OBD2A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I am in the middle of trying to figure out how the installation of allstar
> can be put on anyone of the following distros that are available to me in
> my VPS
> Debian 7*Preferred install if possible*
> Centos 7
> Ubuntu 14.04LTS
> Ubuntu 14.10

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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Feb 27 18:32:25 2015
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:32:25 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Guidance Hub Install
In-Reply-To: <mailman.65.1425041149.373.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
References: <mailman.65.1425041149.373.app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org>
Message-ID: <54F0B839.9090900@msgstor.com>

Updated
wget https://www.dropbox.com/s/p46x4ryei9lnare/linode.tar.gz


-- "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about." 
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From cleb at defcon-3.net  Fri Feb 27 19:11:35 2015
From: cleb at defcon-3.net (Caleb Pal)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 11:11:35 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Strange RTCM Behavior
In-Reply-To: <8B46C016-41D6-4B53-ADCB-7AE3AEDCB306@mac.com>
References: <54EFBB4A.70702@defcon-3.net>
	<8B46C016-41D6-4B53-ADCB-7AE3AEDCB306@mac.com>
Message-ID: <54F0C167.5050404@defcon-3.net>

Tim,

I have watched multiple "100" counts of voter pings, and they all come 
back shortly after they are sent, I don't see any shaping behavior. I've 
outlined the network arch below. Both RTCM buffers are at 2000, 
voter.conf @ 250.

I ran another ping this morning:

PING (West): Packets tx: 10000, rx: 10000, oos: 0, Avg.: 5.997 ms
PING (West):  Worst: 17 ms, Best: 5 ms, 100.0% Packets successfully 
received (0.0% loss)

The network:

North RPT <-- UBNT 900MHz PtP --> RB-450G (IPSEC) <-- Fiber --> Cloud 
Core Router (IPSEC) <-- UBNT 5GHz PtP --> RB450G <-- Ethernet --> West RPT.

The North site is on a 50/50 Fiber connection with no competing traffic. 
App_rpt lives on a server at the North site. West is 25/25 with QOS 
providing 5Mbps to any of the RTCM traffic. No routing hops between the 
fiber connections.

The thing I find odd is that a restart of the RTCM temporarily fixes the 
issue.

RTCM's are both S/W Version: 1.46 03/04/2014.

Thanks,

Caleb

On 2/27/2015 0656, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> Do the pings ?wind up and pitch?? i.e., no immediate response then they all come back in sorta of a batch? That would indicate traffic shaping on the new network.
>
> The "packets out of bounds" message means the buffers are too small. Is the RTCM buffer set at 2000 (250ms)?
>
> One thing you might try is to change the port. Port 667 is viewed as a bad guy by some ISPs. I?ve been using port 2074 on problem systems.
>
>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Caleb Pal <cleb at defcon-3.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> We have a two site Voted Simulcast consisting of 2 UHF Motorola Quantars, Thunderbolts, and 2 RTCM's. Master site is North, secondary Voter/TX site is West. Recently I have noticed significant choppy audio, mostly absent a PL, being transmitted from the West Site. It appears the repeater is keying/dekeying a couple times a second. On the West RTCM console I see:
>>
>> 02/27/2015 00:23:15.592  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
>> 02/27/2015 00:23:25.532  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
>> 02/27/2015 00:23:35.532  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
>>
>> Physical link between the sites is over a Ubiquiti 5GHz link, then fiber. IPSEC end to end. Voter Ping output is below.
>>
>> PING (West): Packets tx: 100, rx: 100, oos: 0, Avg.: 13.940 ms
>> PING (West):  Worst: 22 ms, Best: 7 ms, 100.0% Packets successfully received (0.0% loss)
>>
>> Standard ping between Voter and West RTCM:
>>
>> 3297 packets transmitted, 3293 received, 0% packet loss, time 3297289ms
>> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.953/4.166/111.124/3.812 ms
>>
>> TX/RX buffers are 250ms. When I restart the West RTCM, the symptoms resolve for a hour or so, then begin to occur again.
>>
>> System was previously functioning normally. Only change has been from ADSL to fiber at the North site. West site was down for 2-3 weeks while the line was switched, so I can't absolutely correlate this issue to the connection change.
>>
>> Pings when the issue is occurring look good (<10ms voter to West RTCM)
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Caleb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From sam.nabkey at gmail.com  Fri Feb 27 22:05:31 2015
From: sam.nabkey at gmail.com (Sam Nabkey)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:05:31 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Strange RTCM Behavior
In-Reply-To: <54F0C167.5050404@defcon-3.net>
References: <54EFBB4A.70702@defcon-3.net>
	<8B46C016-41D6-4B53-ADCB-7AE3AEDCB306@mac.com>
	<54F0C167.5050404@defcon-3.net>
Message-ID: <CAO8AawpnDnHjh+0WWMFYJSsfA3sa5SqG=Jc84N0kwGkoyEhgPQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm having similar issues with non voted units.  Latest firmware and latest
acid.

I've tried everything..



On Feb 27, 2015 2:11 PM, "Caleb Pal" <cleb at defcon-3.net> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I have watched multiple "100" counts of voter pings, and they all come
> back shortly after they are sent, I don't see any shaping behavior. I've
> outlined the network arch below. Both RTCM buffers are at 2000, voter.conf
> @ 250.
>
> I ran another ping this morning:
>
> PING (West): Packets tx: 10000, rx: 10000, oos: 0, Avg.: 5.997 ms
> PING (West):  Worst: 17 ms, Best: 5 ms, 100.0% Packets successfully
> received (0.0% loss)
>
> The network:
>
> North RPT <-- UBNT 900MHz PtP --> RB-450G (IPSEC) <-- Fiber --> Cloud Core
> Router (IPSEC) <-- UBNT 5GHz PtP --> RB450G <-- Ethernet --> West RPT.
>
> The North site is on a 50/50 Fiber connection with no competing traffic.
> App_rpt lives on a server at the North site. West is 25/25 with QOS
> providing 5Mbps to any of the RTCM traffic. No routing hops between the
> fiber connections.
>
> The thing I find odd is that a restart of the RTCM temporarily fixes the
> issue.
>
> RTCM's are both S/W Version: 1.46 03/04/2014.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Caleb
>
> On 2/27/2015 0656, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>
>> Do the pings ?wind up and pitch?? i.e., no immediate response then they
>> all come back in sorta of a batch? That would indicate traffic shaping on
>> the new network.
>>
>> The "packets out of bounds" message means the buffers are too small. Is
>> the RTCM buffer set at 2000 (250ms)?
>>
>> One thing you might try is to change the port. Port 667 is viewed as a
>> bad guy by some ISPs. I?ve been using port 2074 on problem systems.
>>
>>  On Feb 26, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Caleb Pal <cleb at defcon-3.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> We have a two site Voted Simulcast consisting of 2 UHF Motorola
>>> Quantars, Thunderbolts, and 2 RTCM's. Master site is North, secondary
>>> Voter/TX site is West. Recently I have noticed significant choppy audio,
>>> mostly absent a PL, being transmitted from the West Site. It appears the
>>> repeater is keying/dekeying a couple times a second. On the West RTCM
>>> console I see:
>>>
>>> 02/27/2015 00:23:15.592  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
>>> 02/27/2015 00:23:25.532  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
>>> 02/27/2015 00:23:35.532  Inbound (Eth Rx) packet out of bounds by: -60
>>>
>>> Physical link between the sites is over a Ubiquiti 5GHz link, then
>>> fiber. IPSEC end to end. Voter Ping output is below.
>>>
>>> PING (West): Packets tx: 100, rx: 100, oos: 0, Avg.: 13.940 ms
>>> PING (West):  Worst: 22 ms, Best: 7 ms, 100.0% Packets successfully
>>> received (0.0% loss)
>>>
>>> Standard ping between Voter and West RTCM:
>>>
>>> 3297 packets transmitted, 3293 received, 0% packet loss, time 3297289ms
>>> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.953/4.166/111.124/3.812 ms
>>>
>>> TX/RX buffers are 250ms. When I restart the West RTCM, the symptoms
>>> resolve for a hour or so, then begin to occur again.
>>>
>>> System was previously functioning normally. Only change has been from
>>> ADSL to fiber at the North site. West site was down for 2-3 weeks while the
>>> line was switched, so I can't absolutely correlate this issue to the
>>> connection change.
>>>
>>> Pings when the issue is occurring look good (<10ms voter to West RTCM)
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Caleb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
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From wayne at anywherehost.net  Sat Feb 28 10:10:04 2015
From: wayne at anywherehost.net (Wayne)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 02:10:04 -0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Voting Advice
Message-ID: <E585B63364E043DE9D9EF289E704408A@delllaptop>

I find myself in uncharted territory. We have initially setup a RTCM and are considering adding a second site that better covers our intended area. This means simulcasting or voting. I understand that repeaters are equipped with RTCM?s, GPS units, and properly tuned for frequency. The repeaters are Motorola  MSF?s. Gotta love them!!! I further understand that Allstar itself does what it can to time packets.

My questions is this. In such a congested area as the L.A. market it is difficult not to cover a large geographic area. Our primary repeater is at 6,300 feet and does just that but it misses some key areas. Thus a second repeater on a hilltop with excellent coverage as well. The overlap is considerable.

In voting what am I looking at? Turning the power down on each unit to minimize the overlapping wha-wha? I?ve tried antenna adjusting (in Radio Mobile Virtual Mapping) and cannot find a change that has any affect. Do we turn the power way down on each repeater? Hand-held?s will suffer. The same with our mountain repeater that needs the umph to get in and out of the canyons. Damn. What a catch-22. This may not be doable without a second pair that isn?t likely to happen.

What advice would you give those of us trying real hard to learn on the job? We?ve got an excellent team of hams but voting is new to us.
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