From wile2u at gmail.com  Sat Jul  1 04:51:39 2017
From: wile2u at gmail.com (Richard larson)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:51:39 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] proper stanza
Message-ID: <CABUMwzZ8w7xLD8rPuphKEts2oJty4YVw07pgYVCdiLgdwDvgUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good day, hopefully a quick question. Downloaded the current available img
for the RaspberryPI3 from the AllStarLink website, when setting up my node
I was attempting to use the rxchannel=Radio/usbxxxxx stanza in rpt.conf.

checking the asterisk console i see this
[Jul  1 00:34:22] WARNING[1296]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'Radio'
[Jul  1 00:34:26] NOTICE[1271]: app_rpt.c:22032 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 27837
[Jul  1 00:34:26] WARNING[1271]: app_rpt.c:22044 rpt_master:     --
Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
What am I missing..

Rich
W6ABJ
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From markjohnston73 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  1 05:01:15 2017
From: markjohnston73 at gmail.com (Mark Johnston)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 22:01:15 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] proper stanza
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References: <CABUMwzZ8w7xLD8rPuphKEts2oJty4YVw07pgYVCdiLgdwDvgUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAARNdJE8fTNerMHqjqJXpPxB=muz-wmt6cQUJ+eftO4A3aWnFQ@mail.gmail.com>

*In modules.conf change noload to load*

*load => chan_usbradio.so ;                      USB Console Channel Driver*

"Got Root?"

How many software engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
*None. It's a hardware problem.*


Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who it's friends are.
WINDOWS: Will Install Needless Data On Whole System
MICROSOFT: Most Intelligent Customers Realize Our Software Only Fools
Teenagers.


A ntennas
P oorly
P laced
L acks
E ngineering

The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s?.

*"I get paid to support Windows, I use Linux to get work done."*


On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Richard larson <wile2u at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good day, hopefully a quick question. Downloaded the current available img
> for the RaspberryPI3 from the AllStarLink website, when setting up my node
> I was attempting to use the rxchannel=Radio/usbxxxxx stanza in rpt.conf.
>
> checking the asterisk console i see this
> [Jul  1 00:34:22] WARNING[1296]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
> type registered for 'Radio'
> [Jul  1 00:34:26] NOTICE[1271]: app_rpt.c:22032 rpt_master: RPT thread
> restarted on 27837
> [Jul  1 00:34:26] WARNING[1271]: app_rpt.c:22044 rpt_master:     --
> Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> What am I missing..
>
> Rich
> W6ABJ
>
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Sat Jul  1 13:27:26 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 09:27:26 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] proper stanza
In-Reply-To: <CABUMwzZ8w7xLD8rPuphKEts2oJty4YVw07pgYVCdiLgdwDvgUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABUMwzZ8w7xLD8rPuphKEts2oJty4YVw07pgYVCdiLgdwDvgUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <474185bc-0dd9-18cb-0c43-c6e53b87c866@va3uv.com>

On 2017-07-01 12:51 AM, Richard larson wrote:
> Good day, hopefully a quick question. Downloaded the current available 
> img for the RaspberryPI3 from the AllStarLink website, when setting up 
> my node I was attempting to use the rxchannel=Radio/usbxxxxx stanza in 
> rpt.conf.
>
> checking the asterisk console i see this
> [Jul  1 00:34:22] WARNING[1296]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No 
> channel type registered for 'Radio'
> [Jul  1 00:34:26] NOTICE[1271]: app_rpt.c:22032 rpt_master: RPT thread 
> restarted on 27837
> [Jul  1 00:34:26] WARNING[1271]: app_rpt.c:22044 rpt_master:     -- 
> Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> What am I missing..
>
>
<-- Hi Rich:  By default, the usbradio channel is disabled in 
modules.conf; you need to edit your modules.conf file:

noload => chan_simpleusb.so

and then:

load => chan_usbradio.so

It is the latter channel driver that provides dsp functionality and what 
the rxchannel=Radio/.... is looking for.

Of course restart asterisk when you have made the above change.

Hope that helps.

Ramesh, VA3UV

27919, 29109 and a truck load of others!





From wile2u at gmail.com  Sat Jul  1 19:42:28 2017
From: wile2u at gmail.com (Richard larson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:42:28 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1498924801.11487.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
References: <mailman.1.1498924801.11487.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
Message-ID: <CABUMwzYOPCCOEREo9Ne0vD_SNtQnpuUX9L9f2Vi2S9bnJ7gkxA@mail.gmail.com>

That did it..

Thanks
Rich
W6ABJ

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> Good day, hopefully a quick question. Downloaded the current available img
> for the RaspberryPI3 from the AllStarLink website, when setting up my node
> I was attempting to use the rxchannel=Radio/usbxxxxx stanza in rpt.conf.
>
> checking the asterisk console i see this
> [Jul  1 00:34:22] WARNING[1296]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
> type registered for 'Radio'
> [Jul  1 00:34:26] NOTICE[1271]: app_rpt.c:22032 rpt_master: RPT thread
> restarted on 27837
> [Jul  1 00:34:26] WARNING[1271]: app_rpt.c:22044 rpt_master:     --
> Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> What am I missing..
>
> Rich
> W6ABJ
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> *In modules.conf change noload to load*
>
> *load => chan_usbradio.so ;                      USB Console Channel
> Driver*
>
> "Got Root?"
>
> How many software engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
> *None. It's a hardware problem.*
>
>
> Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who it's friends
> are.
> WINDOWS: Will Install Needless Data On Whole System
> MICROSOFT: Most Intelligent Customers Realize Our Software Only Fools
> Teenagers.
>
>
> A ntennas
> P oorly
> P laced
> L acks
> E ngineering
>
> The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s?.
>
> *"I get paid to support Windows, I use Linux to get work done."*
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Richard larson <wile2u at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good day, hopefully a quick question. Downloaded the current available
> img
> > for the RaspberryPI3 from the AllStarLink website, when setting up my
> node
> > I was attempting to use the rxchannel=Radio/usbxxxxx stanza in rpt.conf.
> >
> > checking the asterisk console i see this
> > [Jul  1 00:34:22] WARNING[1296]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
> > type registered for 'Radio'
> > [Jul  1 00:34:26] NOTICE[1271]: app_rpt.c:22032 rpt_master: RPT thread
> > restarted on 27837
> > [Jul  1 00:34:26] WARNING[1271]: app_rpt.c:22044 rpt_master:     --
> > Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> > What am I missing..
> >
> > Rich
> > W6ABJ
> >
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> On 2017-07-01 12:51 AM, Richard larson wrote:
> > Good day, hopefully a quick question. Downloaded the current available
> > img for the RaspberryPI3 from the AllStarLink website, when setting up
> > my node I was attempting to use the rxchannel=Radio/usbxxxxx stanza in
> > rpt.conf.
> >
> > checking the asterisk console i see this
> > [Jul  1 00:34:22] WARNING[1296]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No
> > channel type registered for 'Radio'
> > [Jul  1 00:34:26] NOTICE[1271]: app_rpt.c:22032 rpt_master: RPT thread
> > restarted on 27837
> > [Jul  1 00:34:26] WARNING[1271]: app_rpt.c:22044 rpt_master:     --
> > Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> > What am I missing..
> >
> >
> <-- Hi Rich:  By default, the usbradio channel is disabled in
> modules.conf; you need to edit your modules.conf file:
>
> noload => chan_simpleusb.so
>
> and then:
>
> load => chan_usbradio.so
>
> It is the latter channel driver that provides dsp functionality and what
> the rxchannel=Radio/.... is looking for.
>
> Of course restart asterisk when you have made the above change.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Ramesh, VA3UV
>
> 27919, 29109 and a truck load of others!
>
>
>
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From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Fri Jul  7 15:02:40 2017
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 11:02:40 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Playback from hub node suppression to particular
	connected node
Message-ID: <CABbxpd8gXFBRmnh5t5FPfmPAjVvcrrFQurazeY+MaYEUs36iMQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a hub node that we play announcements on 4 times a day, and
sometimes there is another node south of me that will connect to it.

Does telemetry output being turned off for the connecting node have any
impact on this? He turned off telemetry on his side, (set telemdefault=0)
and I sent a message as a test, but he was still able to hear it.

Is this the expected behavior with telemetry turned off?

tnx
Stephen
K1LNX
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From allstarlinks at gmail.com  Fri Jul  7 21:29:39 2017
From: allstarlinks at gmail.com (Allstar Admin)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:29:39 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Playback from hub node suppression to
 particular connected node
In-Reply-To: <CABbxpd8gXFBRmnh5t5FPfmPAjVvcrrFQurazeY+MaYEUs36iMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABbxpd8gXFBRmnh5t5FPfmPAjVvcrrFQurazeY+MaYEUs36iMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGBbdBmKUD+AaeXyLaoNuoc==muNTBjj5y05P-MfWnO399uTAA@mail.gmail.com>

Announcements and telemetry are different things. Telemdeafult=0 will turn
off connect and disconnect messages on the node where is it set. It has no
affect on your announcements. To prevent your announcements from being
heard on connected nodes use the localplay command rather than the playback
command.


73,
Allstar Admin
http://lists.allstarlink.org

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx at k1lnx.net> wrote:

> I have a hub node that we play announcements on 4 times a day, and
> sometimes there is another node south of me that will connect to it.
>
> Does telemetry output being turned off for the connecting node have any
> impact on this? He turned off telemetry on his side, (set telemdefault=0)
> and I sent a message as a test, but he was still able to hear it.
>
> Is this the expected behavior with telemetry turned off?
>
> tnx
> Stephen
> K1LNX
>
>
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From allstarlinks at gmail.com  Fri Jul  7 21:29:39 2017
From: allstarlinks at gmail.com (Allstar Admin)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 14:29:39 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Playback from hub node suppression to
 particular connected node
In-Reply-To: <CABbxpd8gXFBRmnh5t5FPfmPAjVvcrrFQurazeY+MaYEUs36iMQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABbxpd8gXFBRmnh5t5FPfmPAjVvcrrFQurazeY+MaYEUs36iMQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGBbdBmKUD+AaeXyLaoNuoc==muNTBjj5y05P-MfWnO399uTAA@mail.gmail.com>

Announcements and telemetry are different things. Telemdeafult=0 will turn
off connect and disconnect messages on the node where is it set. It has no
affect on your announcements. To prevent your announcements from being
heard on connected nodes use the localplay command rather than the playback
command.


73,
Allstar Admin
http://lists.allstarlink.org

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx at k1lnx.net> wrote:

> I have a hub node that we play announcements on 4 times a day, and
> sometimes there is another node south of me that will connect to it.
>
> Does telemetry output being turned off for the connecting node have any
> impact on this? He turned off telemetry on his side, (set telemdefault=0)
> and I sent a message as a test, but he was still able to hear it.
>
> Is this the expected behavior with telemetry turned off?
>
> tnx
> Stephen
> K1LNX
>
>
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From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Fri Jul  7 22:29:44 2017
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:29:44 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Playback from hub node suppression to
 particular connected node
In-Reply-To: <CAGBbdBmKUD+AaeXyLaoNuoc==muNTBjj5y05P-MfWnO399uTAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABbxpd8gXFBRmnh5t5FPfmPAjVvcrrFQurazeY+MaYEUs36iMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGBbdBmKUD+AaeXyLaoNuoc==muNTBjj5y05P-MfWnO399uTAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABbxpd-hQ3PYevsDRuQP8TmtwPjGg2o5soTMXcyqgis4v+4PpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, that was my suspicion, but wasn't 100% sure :)

73
Stephen
K1LNX


On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Allstar Admin <allstarlinks at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Announcements and telemetry are different things. Telemdeafult=0 will turn
> off connect and disconnect messages on the node where is it set. It has no
> affect on your announcements. To prevent your announcements from being
> heard on connected nodes use the localplay command rather than the playback
> command.
>
>
> 73,
> Allstar Admin
> http://lists.allstarlink.org
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx at k1lnx.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a hub node that we play announcements on 4 times a day, and
>> sometimes there is another node south of me that will connect to it.
>>
>> Does telemetry output being turned off for the connecting node have any
>> impact on this? He turned off telemetry on his side, (set telemdefault=0)
>> and I sent a message as a test, but he was still able to hear it.
>>
>> Is this the expected behavior with telemetry turned off?
>>
>> tnx
>> Stephen
>> K1LNX
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Fri Jul  7 22:29:44 2017
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:29:44 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Playback from hub node suppression to
 particular connected node
In-Reply-To: <CAGBbdBmKUD+AaeXyLaoNuoc==muNTBjj5y05P-MfWnO399uTAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABbxpd8gXFBRmnh5t5FPfmPAjVvcrrFQurazeY+MaYEUs36iMQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGBbdBmKUD+AaeXyLaoNuoc==muNTBjj5y05P-MfWnO399uTAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABbxpd-hQ3PYevsDRuQP8TmtwPjGg2o5soTMXcyqgis4v+4PpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, that was my suspicion, but wasn't 100% sure :)

73
Stephen
K1LNX


On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Allstar Admin <allstarlinks at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Announcements and telemetry are different things. Telemdeafult=0 will turn
> off connect and disconnect messages on the node where is it set. It has no
> affect on your announcements. To prevent your announcements from being
> heard on connected nodes use the localplay command rather than the playback
> command.
>
>
> 73,
> Allstar Admin
> http://lists.allstarlink.org
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx at k1lnx.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a hub node that we play announcements on 4 times a day, and
>> sometimes there is another node south of me that will connect to it.
>>
>> Does telemetry output being turned off for the connecting node have any
>> impact on this? He turned off telemetry on his side, (set telemdefault=0)
>> and I sent a message as a test, but he was still able to hear it.
>>
>> Is this the expected behavior with telemetry turned off?
>>
>> tnx
>> Stephen
>> K1LNX
>>
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From jerutley at gmail.com  Sat Jul  8 23:56:16 2017
From: jerutley at gmail.com (Jeremy Utley)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 18:56:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
Message-ID: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>

Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images) is
offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and was
unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
available from Loren Tedford's site voipham.com (at least I think that's
Loren's site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.

 

Jeremy, NQ0M

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From szingman at msgstor.com  Sun Jul  9 00:09:00 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 20:09:00 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7a52b922-e696-6b52-6b41-e1aae4fa2541@msgstor.com>

Yes,
It is down. I am migrating to a new hosting provider. The links will be 
updated.

Sorry for the problem.

Steve N4IRS

On 07/08/2017 07:56 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote:
>
> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial 
> images) is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last 
> night, and was unsuccessful. Thanks to some Google searching, I found 
> a copy of it available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least 
> I think that?s Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
>
>
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From jerutley at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 00:10:28 2017
From: jerutley at gmail.com (Jeremy Utley)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 19:10:28 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <7a52b922-e696-6b52-6b41-e1aae4fa2541@msgstor.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <7a52b922-e696-6b52-6b41-e1aae4fa2541@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <046a01d2f847$c60aaac0$52200040$@gmail.com>

No Problem, Steve ?  Downtime happens!  Just glad I was able to find a copy!

 

Jeremy, NQ0M

 

From: Steve Zingman [mailto:szingman at msgstor.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 7:09 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>; Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline

 

Yes,
It is down. I am migrating to a new hosting provider. The links will be updated.

Sorry for the problem. 

Steve N4IRS

On 07/08/2017 07:56 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote:

Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images) is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and was unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think that?s Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.

 

Jeremy, NQ0M






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From lorentedford at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 01:26:58 2017
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 20:26:58 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <046a01d2f847$c60aaac0$52200040$@gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <7a52b922-e696-6b52-6b41-e1aae4fa2541@msgstor.com>
 <046a01d2f847$c60aaac0$52200040$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK=eTygJTzpN3pP-47-f_FbP6ZZNcD_AESc3uWUpomr+weR0uQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yes voipham.com is one of my many sites glad you were able to find what you
were needing! I try to keep it up to date but i have been very busy with
alot of other things going on! Just shout if their is anything i can help
with!

Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Phone:
Fax:
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://www.kc9zhv.com
http://forum.kc9zhv.com
http://hub.kc9zhv.com
http://Ltcraft.net <http://ltcraft.net/>
http://voipham.com

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:

> No Problem, Steve ?  Downtime happens!  Just glad I was able to find a
> copy!
>
>
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Zingman [mailto:szingman at msgstor.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2017 7:09 PM
> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>;
> Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
>
>
>
> Yes,
> It is down. I am migrating to a new hosting provider. The links will be
> updated.
>
> Sorry for the problem.
>
> Steve N4IRS
>
> On 07/08/2017 07:56 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote:
>
> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images)
> is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and
> was unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
> available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think that?s
> Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>
>
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
>
>
>
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>
> App_rpt-users mailing list
>
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From petem001 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 02:46:17 2017
From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 02:46:17 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
	list.
Message-ID: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>

Must be because I asked about source a bit too much.

Am I the only one that was put under " control " like that?

Pierre VE2PF
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Sun Jul  9 02:48:31 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 22:48:31 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
 mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e0713cb0-6d14-3f9f-776e-9ea5af436683@msgstor.com>

I have been on "moderate" for quite a while.

73, Steve

On 07/08/2017 10:46 PM, Pierre Martel wrote:
> Must be because I asked about source a bit too much.
>
> Am I the only one that was put under " control " like that?
>
> Pierre VE2PF
>
>
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From buddy at brannan.name  Sun Jul  9 02:57:51 2017
From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 22:57:51 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
 mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <e0713cb0-6d14-3f9f-776e-9ea5af436683@msgstor.com>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <C1018EE8-46A7-4D50-BA64-EB345EF23E34@brannan.name>

Yep. I am also moderated because (I suppose this is the reason anyway) I dared to bring up the unavailability of source. Oh well. 

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Mobile (preferred): (814) 431-0962
Phone: (814) 860-3194
Email: buddy at brannan.name



> On Jul 8, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
> 
> I have been on "moderate" for quite a while.
> 
> 73, Steve
> 
> On 07/08/2017 10:46 PM, Pierre Martel wrote:
>> Must be because I asked about source a bit too much. 
>> 
>> Am I the only one that was put under " control " like that?
>> 
>> Pierre VE2PF 
>> 
>> 
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From petem001 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 03:34:21 2017
From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 03:34:21 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
	mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <CAL8dJwr+5_rG92GJEpHON8Anovrsqv9wT-zYW=Qz10ZK8azngg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707082251430.7110-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
 <CAL8dJwr+5_rG92GJEpHON8Anovrsqv9wT-zYW=Qz10ZK8azngg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL8dJwpEwZGBResO6iSmGaQ_ruY2Z7JU8gt35bsfixpJ9o06eQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just seen that David answered me off list. I now send his answer and mine.

Sorry if some are anonyme de by this, but I respect too much the work Of
Jim and all the allstarLink group to let this pass like this.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com>
Date: sam. 8 juil. 2017 ? 23:31
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
mailing list.
To: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>


Well David, your answer here and in private is most interesting.

If you dont want to "sour the AllStar lanscape " why dont YOU start by
doing the right and legal thing and post the source you are distributing.
This would fix all critics and close the debate.
One other thing, you are the one bringing sale 101, do you have something
to sell? Cause in a email you sent me you told me that Jim told you where
to go with his work and this was preventing his work from being used
 Commercialy. Is there something under all those selling and fear of use
commercialy of the app-rpt sofware?

Want to do the good thing? We Will see... Untill you do act legaly and
moraly you have no credibility for me.

Have a great day.



Le sam. 8 juil. 2017 ? 23:13, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> a ?crit :

>
> Pierre,
>
> I have set the arm-allstar list temporarily into moderate mode. The thread
> titled "Where's Waldo?" is locked---and that includes the dozen or so
> people who have responded saying they "could care less about source code,
> what they want is code that works." These questions about immediate source
> code availability have been asked and answered by the project
> developers---that's me (kb4fxc) and Doug (wa3dsp).
>
> Any questions, including your's or anyone else's, for legitimate help,
> questions or comments with the hamvoip project will be forwarded to the
> list, as they always have been. And, we'll do our best to find an answer.
>
> If you're got a problem with the developers of the hamvoip project,
> address us directly....No one wants to hear these rants and we've gotten
> many private e-mails to that effect.
>
> And, BTW, the users on the app_rpt-users list don't want to hear the
> rants, either....All this does is sour the entire AllStar landscape for
> all distros. I'm sure you must realize that?  This is sales 101.
>
>
> Thanks for understanding,
>
> David McGough, KB4FXC
>
>
>
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From petem001 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 03:35:49 2017
From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 03:35:49 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
	mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <CAL8dJwpEwZGBResO6iSmGaQ_ruY2Z7JU8gt35bsfixpJ9o06eQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707082251430.7110-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
 <CAL8dJwr+5_rG92GJEpHON8Anovrsqv9wT-zYW=Qz10ZK8azngg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAL8dJwpEwZGBResO6iSmGaQ_ruY2Z7JU8gt35bsfixpJ9o06eQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL8dJwpKeZp-G=Y_8Vzmc=qf4dH=Jm-63_4_rXhFWaH0RuS4Ug@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for some typo my IPad is autocorecting in french ;-)

Le sam. 8 juil. 2017 ? 23:34, Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com> a ?crit :

> Just seen that David answered me off list. I now send his answer and mine.
>
> Sorry if some are anonyme de by this, but I respect too much the work Of
> Jim and all the allstarLink group to let this pass like this.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com>
> Date: sam. 8 juil. 2017 ? 23:31
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
> mailing list.
> To: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>
>
> Well David, your answer here and in private is most interesting.
>
> If you dont want to "sour the AllStar lanscape " why dont YOU start by
> doing the right and legal thing and post the source you are distributing.
> This would fix all critics and close the debate.
> One other thing, you are the one bringing sale 101, do you have something
> to sell? Cause in a email you sent me you told me that Jim told you where
> to go with his work and this was preventing his work from being used
>  Commercialy. Is there something under all those selling and fear of use
> commercialy of the app-rpt sofware?
>
> Want to do the good thing? We Will see... Untill you do act legaly and
> moraly you have no credibility for me.
>
> Have a great day.
>
>
>
> Le sam. 8 juil. 2017 ? 23:13, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> a ?crit :
>
>>
>> Pierre,
>>
>> I have set the arm-allstar list temporarily into moderate mode. The thread
>> titled "Where's Waldo?" is locked---and that includes the dozen or so
>> people who have responded saying they "could care less about source code,
>> what they want is code that works." These questions about immediate source
>> code availability have been asked and answered by the project
>> developers---that's me (kb4fxc) and Doug (wa3dsp).
>>
>> Any questions, including your's or anyone else's, for legitimate help,
>> questions or comments with the hamvoip project will be forwarded to the
>> list, as they always have been. And, we'll do our best to find an answer.
>>
>> If you're got a problem with the developers of the hamvoip project,
>> address us directly....No one wants to hear these rants and we've gotten
>> many private e-mails to that effect.
>>
>> And, BTW, the users on the app_rpt-users list don't want to hear the
>> rants, either....All this does is sour the entire AllStar landscape for
>> all distros. I'm sure you must realize that?  This is sales 101.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for understanding,
>>
>> David McGough, KB4FXC
>>
>>
>>
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Sun Jul  9 03:53:58 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 23:53:58 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <908af61d-4b2b-8deb-4e58-ec788fa62ca6@msgstor.com>

As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing providers. 
In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad locations.
In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider. The 
main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here is one of 
the new locations:

<http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>

73, Steve N4IRS

On 07/08/2017 07:56 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote:
>
> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial 
> images) is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last 
> night, and was unsuccessful. Thanks to some Google searching, I found 
> a copy of it available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least 
> I think that?s Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 04:18:03 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:18:03 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <908af61d-4b2b-8deb-4e58-ec788fa62ca6@msgstor.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <908af61d-4b2b-8deb-4e58-ec788fa62ca6@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbKBpG8PE0FZyz5d9wmhfffYp0X=qJAAR3b4RJxPquMzbw@mail.gmail.com>

What provider did you go with?

David
KE6UPI



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing providers. In
> the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad locations.
> In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider. The
> main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here is one of the
> new locations:
>
> <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>
> <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
> On 07/08/2017 07:56 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote:
>
> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images)
> is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and
> was unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
> available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think that?s
> Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>
>
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
>
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From george at dyb.com  Sun Jul  9 07:20:49 2017
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 02:20:49 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
 mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <C1018EE8-46A7-4D50-BA64-EB345EF23E34@brannan.name>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
 <e0713cb0-6d14-3f9f-776e-9ea5af436683@msgstor.com>
 <C1018EE8-46A7-4D50-BA64-EB345EF23E34@brannan.name>
Message-ID: <b430eef6-dee8-1b91-9c71-48ad7b17e87a@dyb.com>

Buddy, I gave up on arm-allstar for two reasons, one being the lack of  
source. There are two things I modify in app_rpt.c always and with Jims 
distro and SVN availability it has been no issue, and carried  forth 
here. The other reason was their use of that awful Linux distro- Arch. 
I've used it in a desktop and it was ok, provided you don't need to 
change anything in the OS. And as with my need to modify app_rpt.c I 
have the need to change things in the OS as well. Arch is the goofiest 
layout of Linux and I don't have the desire to learn another one. Debian 
was a big enough change for me, who has lived in the Slackware world 
since 1993. I can figure networking and how to change things in Debian 
(I also mostly live in a command line world)

app_rpt-users is the place to be. The code works the source is there.

But I'm still running Limey 1.1.5 on 2360. Hey, it works fine.

GeorgeC
W2DB
node 2360


On 7/8/2017 9:57 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> Yep. I am also moderated because (I suppose this is the reason anyway) I dared to bring up the unavailability of source. Oh well.
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Mobile (preferred): (814) 431-0962
> Phone: (814) 860-3194
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>
>
>
>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have been on "moderate" for quite a while.
>>
>> 73, Steve
>>
>> On 07/08/2017 10:46 PM, Pierre Martel wrote:
>>> Must be because I asked about source a bit too much.
>>>
>>> Am I the only one that was put under " control " like that?
>>>
>>> Pierre VE2PF
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>
>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit
>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>   and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
>>>
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>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
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>

-- 
George Csahanin
10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
Crowley, TX 76036
682-708-5716 home
401-338-0568 cel
http://dyb.com
PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer function
USE george at w2db.com



From k8it at cac.net  Sun Jul  9 15:47:24 2017
From: k8it at cac.net (Neil k8it)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:47:24 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
	mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <b430eef6-dee8-1b91-9c71-48ad7b17e87a@dyb.com>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
 <e0713cb0-6d14-3f9f-776e-9ea5af436683@msgstor.com>
 <C1018EE8-46A7-4D50-BA64-EB345EF23E34@brannan.name>
 <b430eef6-dee8-1b91-9c71-48ad7b17e87a@dyb.com>
Message-ID: <ADD790CB1E374A4DA156FB40B32502C8@NSLAPTOP>

can I join the club.
I have been moderated for a while, since v1.05alpha came along.
caution to all
doug and dave have inserted backdoors into their most reason code for their 
access and not planning to release code per gpl license...
this is not what jim dixon wanted
doug and dave also have a way of knowing what code you are running
caution


Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479

--------------------------------------------------
From: "George Csahanin" <george at dyb.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 3:20 AM
To: <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM 
mailing list.

> Buddy, I gave up on arm-allstar for two reasons, one being the lack of 
> source. There are two things I modify in app_rpt.c always and with Jims 
> distro and SVN availability it has been no issue, and carried  forth here. 
> The other reason was their use of that awful Linux distro- Arch. I've used 
> it in a desktop and it was ok, provided you don't need to change anything 
> in the OS. And as with my need to modify app_rpt.c I have the need to 
> change things in the OS as well. Arch is the goofiest layout of Linux and 
> I don't have the desire to learn another one. Debian was a big enough 
> change for me, who has lived in the Slackware world since 1993. I can 
> figure networking and how to change things in Debian (I also mostly live 
> in a command line world)
>
> app_rpt-users is the place to be. The code works the source is there.
>
> But I'm still running Limey 1.1.5 on 2360. Hey, it works fine.
>
> GeorgeC
> W2DB
> node 2360
>
>
> On 7/8/2017 9:57 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> Yep. I am also moderated because (I suppose this is the reason anyway) I 
>> dared to bring up the unavailability of source. Oh well.
>>
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Mobile (preferred): (814) 431-0962
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194
>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been on "moderate" for quite a while.
>>>
>>> 73, Steve
>>>
>>> On 07/08/2017 10:46 PM, Pierre Martel wrote:
>>>> Must be because I asked about source a bit too much.
>>>>
>>>> Am I the only one that was put under " control " like that?
>>>>
>>>> Pierre VE2PF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>>
>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit
>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>>   and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address 
>>>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email 
>>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message 
>>>> to the list detailing the problem.
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit 
>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and 
>>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and 
>>> press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email 
>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message 
>>> to the list detailing the problem.
>>
>
> -- 
> George Csahanin
> 10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
> Crowley, TX 76036
> 682-708-5716 home
> 401-338-0568 cel
> http://dyb.com
> PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer 
> function
> USE george at w2db.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
> To unsubscribe from this list please visit 
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and 
> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press 
> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email 
> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to 
> the list detailing the problem. 



From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Sun Jul  9 15:55:17 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:55:17 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
 mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <ADD790CB1E374A4DA156FB40B32502C8@NSLAPTOP>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
 <e0713cb0-6d14-3f9f-776e-9ea5af436683@msgstor.com>
 <C1018EE8-46A7-4D50-BA64-EB345EF23E34@brannan.name>
 <b430eef6-dee8-1b91-9c71-48ad7b17e87a@dyb.com>
 <ADD790CB1E374A4DA156FB40B32502C8@NSLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <8a3b46d0-b1ba-e573-f7a3-233aaa7dd808@bryanfields.net>

On 7/9/17 11:47 AM, Neil k8it wrote:
> doug and dave have inserted backdoors into their most reason code for their 
> access and not planning to release code per gpl license...
> this is not what jim dixon wanted
> doug and dave also have a way of knowing what code you are running
> caution

Do you have proof of this?  Can show a pcap or a library that does this?  I'd
sure love to look at it in IDA.

If you have proof this needs to shouted from the rooftops and people need to
know about the backdoors.

I'd be hesitant to make such a statement publicly unless you have proof.
While Doug's certainly a douche for his failure to honor the GPL, backdooring
systems is much worse, and possibly criminal.  Without proof this could be
interpreted as a libelous statement.

73's
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From szingman at msgstor.com  Sun Jul  9 15:59:24 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:59:24 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
 mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <ADD790CB1E374A4DA156FB40B32502C8@NSLAPTOP>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
 <e0713cb0-6d14-3f9f-776e-9ea5af436683@msgstor.com>
 <C1018EE8-46A7-4D50-BA64-EB345EF23E34@brannan.name>
 <b430eef6-dee8-1b91-9c71-48ad7b17e87a@dyb.com>
 <ADD790CB1E374A4DA156FB40B32502C8@NSLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <6c67f9c5-a5d8-936c-1f59-369097da5cfd@msgstor.com>

Let's chill out. Though here I don't limit free speech unlike other 
lists, I don't want this to go off the rails. Step back, take a breath 
and think before you post. I will moderate (for a short cooling off 
period) if this gets out of hand.

Steve N4IRS




From mike.zingman at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 16:22:27 2017
From: mike.zingman at gmail.com (Mike Zingman)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:22:27 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
	mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <b430eef6-dee8-1b91-9c71-48ad7b17e87a@dyb.com>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
 <e0713cb0-6d14-3f9f-776e-9ea5af436683@msgstor.com>
 <C1018EE8-46A7-4D50-BA64-EB345EF23E34@brannan.name>
 <b430eef6-dee8-1b91-9c71-48ad7b17e87a@dyb.com>
Message-ID: <CAHS3md-4sfcMdDaJNSMCMwAVomXES6TBZ1ihPqaU93EBPn8VaQ@mail.gmail.com>

George,

If your changes are of a general nature and can help others, you might want
to consider a pull request.  YEA open source!

Mike

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:20 AM, George Csahanin <george at dyb.com> wrote:

> Buddy, I gave up on arm-allstar for two reasons, one being the lack of
> source. There are two things I modify in app_rpt.c always and with Jims
> distro and SVN availability it has been no issue, and carried  forth here.
> The other reason was their use of that awful Linux distro- Arch. I've used
> it in a desktop and it was ok, provided you don't need to change anything
> in the OS. And as with my need to modify app_rpt.c I have the need to
> change things in the OS as well. Arch is the goofiest layout of Linux and I
> don't have the desire to learn another one. Debian was a big enough change
> for me, who has lived in the Slackware world since 1993. I can figure
> networking and how to change things in Debian (I also mostly live in a
> command line world)
>
> app_rpt-users is the place to be. The code works the source is there.
>
> But I'm still running Limey 1.1.5 on 2360. Hey, it works fine.
>
> GeorgeC
> W2DB
> node 2360
>
>
>
> On 7/8/2017 9:57 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
>> Yep. I am also moderated because (I suppose this is the reason anyway) I
>> dared to bring up the unavailability of source. Oh well.
>>
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Mobile (preferred): (814) 431-0962
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194
>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been on "moderate" for quite a while.
>>>
>>> 73, Steve
>>>
>>> On 07/08/2017 10:46 PM, Pierre Martel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Must be because I asked about source a bit too much.
>>>>
>>>> Am I the only one that was put under " control " like that?
>>>>
>>>> Pierre VE2PF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>>
>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit
>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>>   and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address
>>>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email
>>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to
>>>> the list detailing the problem.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit
>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and
>>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press
>>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email
>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to
>>> the list detailing the problem.
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> George Csahanin
> 10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
> Crowley, TX 76036
> 682-708-5716 home
> 401-338-0568 cel
> http://dyb.com
> PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer
> function
> USE george at w2db.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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> gi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Sun Jul  9 17:35:37 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 13:35:37 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a
	ARM mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707091257320.25853-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707091257320.25853-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <04f3c7e0-2192-4f8c-4d55-2daec20b0a10@bryanfields.net>

I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have it
here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.

On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
> 
> Neil,
> 
> I have taken these comments off list.
> 
> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
> absolutely a LIE.
>
> With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
> statement or retract it.

A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others about
it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening legal
action?

Release the source, you have no other option.

As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points of
the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company who
builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.

73's
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Sun Jul  9 18:15:58 2017
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 14:15:58 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a
	ARM mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <04f3c7e0-2192-4f8c-4d55-2daec20b0a10@bryanfields.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707091257320.25853-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
 <04f3c7e0-2192-4f8c-4d55-2daec20b0a10@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CEFB1883-6D1A-493E-B541-55898950C6DD@bdboyle.com>

send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open source.

That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their massive self-reverential egos over there.  

(and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.



> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have it
> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
> 
>> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>> 
>> Neil,
>> 
>> I have taken these comments off list.
>> 
>> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>> absolutely a LIE.
>> 
>> With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>> statement or retract it.
> 
> A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others about
> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening legal
> action?
> 
> Release the source, you have no other option.
> 
> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points of
> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company who
> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
> 
> 73's
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Sun Jul  9 19:13:01 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:13:01 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <908af61d-4b2b-8deb-4e58-ec788fa62ca6@msgstor.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <908af61d-4b2b-8deb-4e58-ec788fa62ca6@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4@msgstor.com>

The AllStarLink image files are now available at 
<http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/> thanks to Corey N3FE The 
download links have been updated to point to the new location.
Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving dvswitch.org and 
the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data center. The 
new IP address is  for dvswitch.org is 44.103.32.18 I will be moving the 
DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a 
work in progress over the next week.

On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
> As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing 
> providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad locations.
> In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider. 
> The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here is one 
> of the new locations:
>
> <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS

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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 19:59:15 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:59:15 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a
 ARM mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <CEFB1883-6D1A-493E-B541-55898950C6DD@bdboyle.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707091257320.25853-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
 <04f3c7e0-2192-4f8c-4d55-2daec20b0a10@bryanfields.net>
 <CEFB1883-6D1A-493E-B541-55898950C6DD@bdboyle.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Who's Source code? Just asking.

David
KE6UPI



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com> wrote:

> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an
> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
> source.
>
> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their massive
> self-reverential egos over there.
>
> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
> --
> Bryan
> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
> message.
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>
> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have it
> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>
> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>
>
> Neil,
>
>
> I have taken these comments off list.
>
>
> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>
> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>
> absolutely a LIE.
>
>
> With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>
> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>
> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>
> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>
> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>
> statement or retract it.
>
>
> A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
> about
> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
> legal
> action?
>
> Release the source, you have no other option.
>
> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
> of
> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
> who
> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>
> 73's
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
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From asylthe at kc9ona.com  Sun Jul  9 20:09:13 2017
From: asylthe at kc9ona.com (Andrew Sylthe)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:09:13 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a
 ARM mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707091257320.25853-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
 <04f3c7e0-2192-4f8c-4d55-2daec20b0a10@bryanfields.net>
 <CEFB1883-6D1A-493E-B541-55898950C6DD@bdboyle.com>
 <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMbt3dva5PVZgpc_JpTAWpRS+hcNiGBVD=2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw@mail.gmail.com>

The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...

On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:

> Who's Source code? Just asking.
>
> David
> KE6UPI
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com>
> wrote:
>
>> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
>> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
>> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an
>> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
>> source.
>>
>> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their
>> massive self-reverential egos over there.
>>
>> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
>> --
>> Bryan
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
>> message.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have
>> it
>> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>>
>> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>>
>>
>> Neil,
>>
>>
>> I have taken these comments off list.
>>
>>
>> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>>
>> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>>
>> absolutely a LIE.
>>
>>
>> With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>>
>> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>>
>> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>>
>> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>>
>> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>>
>> statement or retract it.
>>
>>
>> A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
>> about
>> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
>> legal
>> action?
>>
>> Release the source, you have no other option.
>>
>> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
>> of
>> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
>> who
>> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>>
>> 73's
>> --
>> Bryan Fields
>>
>> 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
>> http://bryanfields.net
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
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>> gi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of
>> the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit
>> options button"
>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email
>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to
>> the list detailing the problem.
>>
>>
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>> the list detailing the problem.
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Sun Jul  9 20:18:28 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 16:18:28 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a
 ARM mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707091257320.25853-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
 <04f3c7e0-2192-4f8c-4d55-2daec20b0a10@bryanfields.net>
 <CEFB1883-6D1A-493E-B541-55898950C6DD@bdboyle.com>
 <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85d00c85-cf3b-dcc2-43ae-b0ec0e5fc4c8@bryanfields.net>

On 7/9/17 3:59 PM, David Shaw wrote:
> Who's Source code? Just asking.

Under the GPLv2 if you release/distribute code in binary you need to release
the source code to build that binary.

So code in question would be what ever it takes to build that binary.  Now
there are end cases and nuance here, but generally (and for
app_rpt.c/asterisk/all-star) you need to release the source.

Bruce Perens K6BP has written extensively on what this means and how to comply
for many companies.

73's
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 13:50:27 2017
From: k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Carrier)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 07:50:27 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.665.1499630957.5828.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
References: <mailman.665.1499630957.5828.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
Message-ID: <CAA_aZLiAXPb-EZmh2skgU2ab8OMWmyZuVvJnKBCFxMMG-2vLoA@mail.gmail.com>

How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it worth
looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For the record,
I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding of this since I
lack that skill set.

I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios
lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.

I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast on
the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified RTCM's and
do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping CTCSS in phase in
an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how ugly would DPL be in a
simulcast environment?

Thoughts?

de K0JSC

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> wrote:

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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:13:01 -0400
> From: Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
> Message-ID: <355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com>
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>
> The AllStarLink image files are now available at
> <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/> thanks to Corey N3FE The
> download links have been updated to point to the new location.
> Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving dvswitch.org and
> the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data center. The
> new IP address is  for dvswitch.org is 44.103.32.18 I will be moving the
> DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a
> work in progress over the next week.
>
> On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
> > As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing
> > providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad locations.
> > In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider.
> > The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here is one
> > of the new locations:
> >
> > <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>
> >
> > 73, Steve N4IRS
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> From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com>
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
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>
> Who's Source code? Just asking.
>
> David
> KE6UPI
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com>
> wrote:
>
> > send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
> > refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
> > Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had
> an
> > opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
> > source.
> >
> > That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their
> massive
> > self-reverential egos over there.
> >
> > (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see
> it)
> > --
> > Bryan
> > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
> > message.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> >
> > I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have
> it
> > here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
> >
> > On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
> >
> >
> > Neil,
> >
> >
> > I have taken these comments off list.
> >
> >
> > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
> >
> > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
> >
> > absolutely a LIE.
> >
> >
> > With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
> >
> > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
> >
> > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
> >
> > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
> >
> > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
> >
> > statement or retract it.
> >
> >
> > A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
> > about
> > it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
> > legal
> > action?
> >
> > Release the source, you have no other option.
> >
> > As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
> > of
> > the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
> > who
> > builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
> >
> > 73's
> > --
> > Bryan Fields
> >
> > 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
> > http://bryanfields.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
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> From: Andrew Sylthe <asylthe at kc9ona.com>
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
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> The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...
>
> On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Who's Source code? Just asking.
> >
> > David
> > KE6UPI
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks, David
> >
> > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are
> neither
> > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to
> encourage
> > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> > confidence than an armed one."
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their
> public
> >> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
> >> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim
> had an
> >> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
> >> source.
> >>
> >> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their
> >> massive self-reverential egos over there.
> >>
> >> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see
> it)
> >> --
> >> Bryan
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
> >> message.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have
> >> it
> >> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
> >>
> >> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Neil,
> >>
> >>
> >> I have taken these comments off list.
> >>
> >>
> >> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
> >>
> >> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
> >>
> >> absolutely a LIE.
> >>
> >>
> >> With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
> >>
> >> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers
> for
> >>
> >> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
> >>
> >> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
> >>
> >> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
> >>
> >> statement or retract it.
> >>
> >>
> >> A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
> >> about
> >> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
> >> legal
> >> action?
> >>
> >> Release the source, you have no other option.
> >>
> >> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer
> points
> >> of
> >> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a
> company
> >> who
> >> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
> >>
> >> 73's
> >> --
> >> Bryan Fields
> >>
> >> 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
> >> http://bryanfields.net
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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Mon Jul 10 14:10:45 2017
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:10:45 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <CAA_aZLiAXPb-EZmh2skgU2ab8OMWmyZuVvJnKBCFxMMG-2vLoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.665.1499630957.5828.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
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I would be all for it; IIRC the XIPR release supports it, so it is doable.  

I know a lot of the *ahem* experienced rigs don't have the capability (TR-22c with an add-on ctcss board, anyone?), but seems to me that most modern rigs of any consequence (even the cheap asia-pacific rim units have it) will be able to support it.

FWIW, I have DCS set up on the analog side of my DR1x on my 2m pair, and It works, on baofeng, wouxuns, kenwood, Yaesu, and batwing ht and mobiles just fine.

--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.



> On Jul 10, 2017, at 09:50, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding of this since I lack that skill set.  
> 
> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.  
> 
> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> de K0JSC
> 
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>> 
>>    1. Re: DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline (Steve Zingman)
>>    2. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
>>       list. (David Shaw)
>>    3. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
>>       list. (Andrew Sylthe)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:13:01 -0400
>> From: Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
>> Message-ID: <355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>> 
>> The AllStarLink image files are now available at
>> <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/> thanks to Corey N3FE The
>> download links have been updated to point to the new location.
>> Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving dvswitch.org and
>> the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data center. The
>> new IP address is  for dvswitch.org is 44.103.32.18 I will be moving the
>> DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a
>> work in progress over the next week.
>> 
>> On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>> > As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing
>> > providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad locations.
>> > In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider.
>> > The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here is one
>> > of the new locations:
>> >
>> > <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>
>> >
>> > 73, Steve N4IRS
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>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:59:15 -0700
>> From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
>>         on a ARM mailing list.
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Who's Source code? Just asking.
>> 
>> David
>> KE6UPI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks, David
>> 
>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
>> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
>> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
>> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
>> confidence than an armed one."
>> Thomas Jefferson
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
>> > refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
>> > Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an
>> > opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
>> > source.
>> >
>> > That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their massive
>> > self-reverential egos over there.
>> >
>> > (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
>> > --
>> > Bryan
>> > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
>> > message.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have it
>> > here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>> >
>> > On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Neil,
>> >
>> >
>> > I have taken these comments off list.
>> >
>> >
>> > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>> >
>> > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>> >
>> > absolutely a LIE.
>> >
>> >
>> > With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>> >
>> > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>> >
>> > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>> >
>> > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>> >
>> > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>> >
>> > statement or retract it.
>> >
>> >
>> > A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
>> > about
>> > it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
>> > legal
>> > action?
>> >
>> > Release the source, you have no other option.
>> >
>> > As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
>> > of
>> > the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
>> > who
>> > builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>> >
>> > 73's
>> > --
>> > Bryan Fields
>> >
>> > 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
>> > http://bryanfields.net
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:09:13 -0500
>> From: Andrew Sylthe <asylthe at kc9ona.com>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
>>         on a ARM mailing list.
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>> The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Who's Source code? Just asking.
>> >
>> > David
>> > KE6UPI
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks, David
>> >
>> > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
>> > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
>> > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
>> > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
>> > confidence than an armed one."
>> > Thomas Jefferson
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
>> >> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
>> >> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an
>> >> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
>> >> source.
>> >>
>> >> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their
>> >> massive self-reverential egos over there.
>> >>
>> >> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
>> >> --
>> >> Bryan
>> >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
>> >> message.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have
>> >> it
>> >> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>> >>
>> >> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Neil,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have taken these comments off list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>> >>
>> >> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>> >>
>> >> absolutely a LIE.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>> >>
>> >> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>> >>
>> >> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>> >>
>> >> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>> >>
>> >> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>> >>
>> >> statement or retract it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
>> >> about
>> >> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
>> >> legal
>> >> action?
>> >>
>> >> Release the source, you have no other option.
>> >>
>> >> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
>> >> of
>> >> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
>> >> who
>> >> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>> >>
>> >> 73's
>> >> --
>> >> Bryan Fields
>> >>
>> >> 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
>> >> http://bryanfields.net
>> >> _______________________________________________
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From george at dyb.com  Mon Jul 10 14:26:06 2017
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:26:06 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <CAA_aZLiAXPb-EZmh2skgU2ab8OMWmyZuVvJnKBCFxMMG-2vLoA@mail.gmail.com>
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Just recently thinking of this. It actually would be pretty handy. 
Though most just use the pl/dpl encode/decode in the radio and don't use 
the DSP encode and decode in Allstar it might be handy for a few> I have 
a small node consisting of a Motorola P10 talkie where I use DSP PL. I 
use PL there. But a real need arises on 900. I have a pair of TKR-901's 
that will be modded for the ham band using someone else's code to allow 
programming of the synthesizers. But DPL seems to be a better choice on 
900 and the TKR-901 has zero PL circuitry, its basically a receiver and 
transmitter, carrier squelch. A perfect candidate for USBRADIO. But 
really needs DPL.

But I defer to the code writers. This may not be trivial to do and may 
be more of a distraction.

But a neat idea.

GeorgeC

W2DB

2360



On 7/10/2017 8:50 AM, Jeff Carrier wrote:
> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it 
> worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For 
> the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding 
> of this since I lack that skill set.
>
> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios 
> lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.
>
> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast 
> on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified 
> RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping 
> CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how 
> ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> de K0JSC
>
> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM, 
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From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:28:19 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
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If the radios you use already do DPL there's no need for it in the 
asterisk code.

GeorgeC

W2DB

2360


On 7/10/2017 9:10 AM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:
> I would be all for it; IIRC the XIPR release supports it, so it is 
> doable.
>
> I know a lot of the *ahem* experienced rigs don't have the capability 
> (TR-22c with an add-on ctcss board, anyone?), but seems to me that 
> most modern rigs of any consequence (even the cheap asia-pacific rim 
> units have it) will be able to support it.
>
> FWIW, I have DCS set up on the analog side of my DR1x on my 2m pair, 
> and It works, on baofeng, wouxuns, kenwood, Yaesu, and batwing ht and 
> mobiles just fine.
>
> -- 
> Bryan
> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of 
> this message.
>
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 09:50, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com 
> <mailto:k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it 
>> worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For 
>> the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding 
>> of this since I lack that skill set.
>>
>> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios 
>> lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.
>>
>> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast 
>> on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified 
>> RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping 
>> CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how 
>> ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> de K0JSC
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM, 
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>>        1. Re: DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org>)
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>>        2. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
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>>     Message: 1
>>     Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:13:01 -0400
>>     From: Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com
>>     <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>>
>>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
>>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
>>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org
>>     <http://dvswitch.org>) offline
>>     Message-ID: <355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com
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>>     The AllStarLink image files are now available at
>>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/
>>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>> thanks to Corey N3FE The
>>     download links have been updated to point to the new location.
>>     Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving
>>     dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org> and
>>     the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data
>>     center. The
>>     new IP address is  for dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org> is
>>     44.103.32.18 I will be moving the
>>     DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a
>>     work in progress over the next week.
>>
>>     On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>     > As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing
>>     > providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad
>>     locations.
>>     > In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider.
>>     > The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here
>>     is one
>>     > of the new locations:
>>     >
>>     > <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/
>>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>>
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>>     > 73, Steve N4IRS
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>>     From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com <mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com>>
>>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
>>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
>>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
>>             on a ARM mailing list.
>>     Message-ID:
>>            
>>     <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ at mail.gmail.com
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>>     Who's Source code? Just asking.
>>
>>     David
>>     KE6UPI
>>
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     Thanks, David
>>
>>     "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who
>>     are neither
>>     inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things
>>     worse for
>>     the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to
>>     encourage
>>     than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with
>>     greater
>>     confidence than an armed one."
>>     Thomas Jefferson
>>
>>     On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle
>>     <bdboyle at bdboyle.com <mailto:bdboyle at bdboyle.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     > send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats,
>>     their public
>>     > refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the
>>     Open Source
>>     > Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed
>>     under.  Jim had an
>>     > opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep
>>     it open
>>     > source.
>>     >
>>     > That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight
>>     their massive
>>     > self-reverential egos over there.
>>     >
>>     > (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it
>>     like I see it)
>>     > --
>>     > Bryan
>>     > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the
>>     sending of this
>>     > message.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net
>>     <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough
>>     response to have it
>>     > here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>>     >
>>     > On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Neil,
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > I have taken these comments off list.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal
>>     level,
>>     >
>>     > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that
>>     statement is
>>     >
>>     > absolutely a LIE.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > With these statements you are committing criminal libel.
>>     Whether you you
>>     >
>>     > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom
>>     routers for
>>     >
>>     > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed
>>     across 80+
>>     >
>>     > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I
>>     seriously
>>     >
>>     > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back
>>     up your
>>     >
>>     > statement or retract it.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing
>>     others
>>     > about
>>     > it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you
>>     threatening
>>     > legal
>>     > action?
>>     >
>>     > Release the source, you have no other option.
>>     >
>>     > As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the
>>     finer points
>>     > of
>>     > the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with
>>     a company
>>     > who
>>     > builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>>     >
>>     > 73's
>>     > --
>>     > Bryan Fields
>>     >
>>     > 727-409-1194 <tel:727-409-1194> <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
>>     > http://bryanfields.net
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>>     Message: 3
>>     Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:09:13 -0500
>>     From: Andrew Sylthe <asylthe at kc9ona.com <mailto:asylthe at kc9ona.com>>
>>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
>>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
>>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
>>             on a ARM mailing list.
>>     Message-ID:
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>>     <CAMbt3dva5PVZgpc_JpTAWpRS+hcNiGBVD=2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw at mail.gmail.com
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>>     The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...
>>
>>     On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     > Who's Source code? Just asking.
>>     >
>>     > David
>>     > KE6UPI
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > --
>>     > Thanks, David
>>     >
>>     > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who
>>     are neither
>>     > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things
>>     worse for
>>     > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather
>>     to encourage
>>     > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with
>>     greater
>>     > confidence than an armed one."
>>     > Thomas Jefferson
>>     >
>>     > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle
>>     <bdboyle at bdboyle.com <mailto:bdboyle at bdboyle.com>>
>>     > wrote:
>>     >
>>     >> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats,
>>     their public
>>     >> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the
>>     Open Source
>>     >> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed
>>     under.  Jim had an
>>     >> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to
>>     keep it open
>>     >> source.
>>     >>
>>     >> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their
>>     >> massive self-reverential egos over there.
>>     >>
>>     >> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it
>>     like I see it)
>>     >> --
>>     >> Bryan
>>     >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the
>>     sending of this
>>     >> message.
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net
>>     <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough
>>     response to have
>>     >> it
>>     >> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>>     >>
>>     >> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> Neil,
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> I have taken these comments off list.
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal
>>     level,
>>     >>
>>     >> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that
>>     statement is
>>     >>
>>     >> absolutely a LIE.
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> With these statements you are committing criminal libel.
>>     Whether you you
>>     >>
>>     >> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom
>>     routers for
>>     >>
>>     >> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed
>>     across 80+
>>     >>
>>     >> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I
>>     seriously
>>     >>
>>     >> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back
>>     up your
>>     >>
>>     >> statement or retract it.
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> A person with such contempt for the law should not be
>>     lecturing others
>>     >> about
>>     >> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you
>>     threatening
>>     >> legal
>>     >> action?
>>     >>
>>     >> Release the source, you have no other option.
>>     >>
>>     >> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the
>>     finer points
>>     >> of
>>     >> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job
>>     with a company
>>     >> who
>>     >> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>>     >>
>>     >> 73's
>>     >> --
>>     >> Bryan Fields
>>     >>
>>     >> 727-409-1194 <tel:727-409-1194> <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
>>     >> http://bryanfields.net
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From luvencl8 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 14:46:25 2017
From: luvencl8 at gmail.com (Lu V)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 08:46:25 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <CAA_aZLiAXPb-EZmh2skgU2ab8OMWmyZuVvJnKBCFxMMG-2vLoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.665.1499630957.5828.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
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Message-ID: <AE4BA3D2-432E-45AF-B5B6-BBC815F076FA@gmail.com>

I would definitely be interested! Digital  private line or also known as DCS is the way to go. 

Lu Vencl

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding of this since I lack that skill set.  
> 
> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.  
> 
> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> de K0JSC
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM, <app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org> wrote:
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>> 
>>    1. Re: DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline (Steve Zingman)
>>    2. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
>>       list. (David Shaw)
>>    3. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
>>       list. (Andrew Sylthe)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:13:01 -0400
>> From: Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
>> Message-ID: <355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>> 
>> The AllStarLink image files are now available at
>> <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/> thanks to Corey N3FE The
>> download links have been updated to point to the new location.
>> Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving dvswitch.org and
>> the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data center. The
>> new IP address is  for dvswitch.org is 44.103.32.18 I will be moving the
>> DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a
>> work in progress over the next week.
>> 
>> On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>> > As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing
>> > providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad locations.
>> > In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider.
>> > The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here is one
>> > of the new locations:
>> >
>> > <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>
>> >
>> > 73, Steve N4IRS
>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:59:15 -0700
>> From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
>>         on a ARM mailing list.
>> Message-ID:
>>         <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Who's Source code? Just asking.
>> 
>> David
>> KE6UPI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks, David
>> 
>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
>> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
>> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
>> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
>> confidence than an armed one."
>> Thomas Jefferson
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
>> > refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
>> > Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an
>> > opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
>> > source.
>> >
>> > That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their massive
>> > self-reverential egos over there.
>> >
>> > (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
>> > --
>> > Bryan
>> > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
>> > message.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have it
>> > here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>> >
>> > On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Neil,
>> >
>> >
>> > I have taken these comments off list.
>> >
>> >
>> > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>> >
>> > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>> >
>> > absolutely a LIE.
>> >
>> >
>> > With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>> >
>> > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>> >
>> > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>> >
>> > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>> >
>> > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>> >
>> > statement or retract it.
>> >
>> >
>> > A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
>> > about
>> > it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
>> > legal
>> > action?
>> >
>> > Release the source, you have no other option.
>> >
>> > As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
>> > of
>> > the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
>> > who
>> > builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>> >
>> > 73's
>> > --
>> > Bryan Fields
>> >
>> > 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
>> > http://bryanfields.net
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > App_rpt-users mailing list
>> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:09:13 -0500
>> From: Andrew Sylthe <asylthe at kc9ona.com>
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
>>         on a ARM mailing list.
>> Message-ID:
>>         <CAMbt3dva5PVZgpc_JpTAWpRS+hcNiGBVD=2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Who's Source code? Just asking.
>> >
>> > David
>> > KE6UPI
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks, David
>> >
>> > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
>> > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
>> > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
>> > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
>> > confidence than an armed one."
>> > Thomas Jefferson
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
>> >> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
>> >> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an
>> >> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
>> >> source.
>> >>
>> >> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their
>> >> massive self-reverential egos over there.
>> >>
>> >> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
>> >> --
>> >> Bryan
>> >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
>> >> message.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have
>> >> it
>> >> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>> >>
>> >> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Neil,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have taken these comments off list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>> >>
>> >> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>> >>
>> >> absolutely a LIE.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>> >>
>> >> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>> >>
>> >> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>> >>
>> >> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>> >>
>> >> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>> >>
>> >> statement or retract it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
>> >> about
>> >> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
>> >> legal
>> >> action?
>> >>
>> >> Release the source, you have no other option.
>> >>
>> >> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
>> >> of
>> >> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
>> >> who
>> >> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>> >>
>> >> 73's
>> >> --
>> >> Bryan Fields
>> >>
>> >> 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
>> >> http://bryanfields.net
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> >>
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From: luvencl8 at gmail.com (Lu V)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 08:47:43 -0600
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But then there are those of us that  prefer to use the DSP. 

Lu Vencl

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 8:28 AM, George Csahanin <george at dyb.com> wrote:
> 
> If the radios you use already do DPL there's no need for it in the asterisk code.
> 
> GeorgeC
> 
> W2DB
> 
> 2360
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 9:10 AM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:
>> I would be all for it; IIRC the XIPR release supports it, so it is doable.  
>> 
>> I know a lot of the *ahem* experienced rigs don't have the capability (TR-22c with an add-on ctcss board, anyone?), but seems to me that most modern rigs of any consequence (even the cheap asia-pacific rim units have it) will be able to support it.
>> 
>> FWIW, I have DCS set up on the analog side of my DR1x on my 2m pair, and It works, on baofeng, wouxuns, kenwood, Yaesu, and batwing ht and mobiles just fine.
>> 
>> --
>> Bryan
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 09:50, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding of this since I lack that skill set.  
>>> 
>>> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.  
>>> 
>>> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> de K0JSC
>>> 
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>>>>    1. Re: DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline (Steve Zingman)
>>>>    2. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
>>>>       list. (David Shaw)
>>>>    3. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
>>>>       list. (Andrew Sylthe)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:13:01 -0400
>>>> From: Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
>>>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
>>>> Message-ID: <355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>>>> 
>>>> The AllStarLink image files are now available at
>>>> <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/> thanks to Corey N3FE The
>>>> download links have been updated to point to the new location.
>>>> Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving dvswitch.org and
>>>> the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data center. The
>>>> new IP address is  for dvswitch.org is 44.103.32.18 I will be moving the
>>>> DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a
>>>> work in progress over the next week.
>>>> 
>>>> On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>>> > As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing
>>>> > providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad locations.
>>>> > In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid provider.
>>>> > The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here is one
>>>> > of the new locations:
>>>> >
>>>> > <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>
>>>> >
>>>> > 73, Steve N4IRS
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:59:15 -0700
>>>> From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
>>>>         on a ARM mailing list.
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>         <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> 
>>>> Who's Source code? Just asking.
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> KE6UPI
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks, David
>>>> 
>>>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
>>>> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
>>>> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
>>>> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
>>>> confidence than an armed one."
>>>> Thomas Jefferson
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
>>>> > refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the Open Source
>>>> > Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an
>>>> > opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
>>>> > source.
>>>> >
>>>> > That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their massive
>>>> > self-reverential egos over there.
>>>> >
>>>> > (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
>>>> > --
>>>> > Bryan
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
>>>> > message.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have it
>>>> > here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>>>> >
>>>> > On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Neil,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I have taken these comments off list.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>>>> >
>>>> > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>>>> >
>>>> > absolutely a LIE.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>>>> >
>>>> > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>>>> >
>>>> > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>>>> >
>>>> > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>>>> >
>>>> > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>>>> >
>>>> > statement or retract it.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
>>>> > about
>>>> > it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
>>>> > legal
>>>> > action?
>>>> >
>>>> > Release the source, you have no other option.
>>>> >
>>>> > As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
>>>> > of
>>>> > the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
>>>> > who
>>>> > builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>>>> >
>>>> > 73's
>>>> > --
>>>> > Bryan Fields
>>>> >
>>>> > 727-409-1194 <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
>>>> > http://bryanfields.net
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>>> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>> >
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>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:09:13 -0500
>>>> From: Andrew Sylthe <asylthe at kc9ona.com>
>>>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more
>>>>         on a ARM mailing list.
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>         <CAMbt3dva5PVZgpc_JpTAWpRS+hcNiGBVD=2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>> 
>>>> The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > Who's Source code? Just asking.
>>>> >
>>>> > David
>>>> > KE6UPI
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Thanks, David
>>>> >
>>>> > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
>>>> > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
>>>> > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
>>>> > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
>>>> > confidence than an armed one."
>>>> > Thomas Jefferson
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle at bdboyle.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats, their public
>>>> >> refusal to release the source, and all                 correspondence to the Open Source
>>>> >> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed under.  Jim had an
>>>> >> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep it open
>>>> >> source.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight their
>>>> >> massive self-reverential egos over there.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it like I see it)
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Bryan
>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this
>>>> >> message.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Neil,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have taken these comments off list.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
>>>> >>
>>>> >> absolutely a LIE.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
>>>> >>
>>>> >> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
>>>> >>
>>>> >> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
>>>> >>
>>>> >> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
>>>> >>
>>>> >> statement or retract it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
>>>> >> about
>>>> >> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
>>>> >> legal
>>>> >> action?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Release the source, you have no other option.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
>>>> >> who
>>>> >> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 73's
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Bryan Fields
>>>> >>
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>>>> >> http://bryanfields.net
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From k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 15:25:53 2017
From: k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Carrier)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:25:53 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <mailman.673.1499696905.5828.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
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You can do DPL with TX/RX that have DPL on board using simple usb but I'd
prefer DSP.  IMHO it's cleaner and I was never able to eliminate squelch
bursts using simple usb.  DPL coupled with DSP would probably produce a
nice clean drop when a user or the repeater unkeys.

Half of my question/suggestion was also regarding RTCM based systems.  With
the RTCM you need to use the local CTCSS/DCS decoder but the server
produces the TX CTCSS and sends it up the network.  In a simulcast setup
I'm assuming you would have to have the server generate DCS if there were
to be any overlap areas at all.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 8:28 AM, <
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:26:06 -0500
> From: George Csahanin <george at dyb.com>
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> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
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> Just recently thinking of this. It actually would be pretty handy.
> Though most just use the pl/dpl encode/decode in the radio and don't use
> the DSP encode and decode in Allstar it might be handy for a few> I have
> a small node consisting of a Motorola P10 talkie where I use DSP PL. I
> use PL there. But a real need arises on 900. I have a pair of TKR-901's
> that will be modded for the ham band using someone else's code to allow
> programming of the synthesizers. But DPL seems to be a better choice on
> 900 and the TKR-901 has zero PL circuitry, its basically a receiver and
> transmitter, carrier squelch. A perfect candidate for USBRADIO. But
> really needs DPL.
>
> But I defer to the code writers. This may not be trivial to do and may
> be more of a distraction.
>
> But a neat idea.
>
> GeorgeC
>
> W2DB
>
> 2360
>
>
>
> On 7/10/2017 8:50 AM, Jeff Carrier wrote:
> > How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it
> > worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For
> > the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding
> > of this since I lack that skill set.
> >
> > I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios
> > lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.
> >
> > I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast
> > on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified
> > RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping
> > CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how
> > ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > de K0JSC
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM,
> > <app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org
> > <mailto:app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org>> wrote:
> >
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:28:19 -0500
> From: George Csahanin <george at dyb.com>
> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
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> If the radios you use already do DPL there's no need for it in the
> asterisk code.
>
> GeorgeC
>
> W2DB
>
> 2360
>
>
> On 7/10/2017 9:10 AM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:
> > I would be all for it; IIRC the XIPR release supports it, so it is
> > doable.
> >
> > I know a lot of the *ahem* experienced rigs don't have the capability
> > (TR-22c with an add-on ctcss board, anyone?), but seems to me that
> > most modern rigs of any consequence (even the cheap asia-pacific rim
> > units have it) will be able to support it.
> >
> > FWIW, I have DCS set up on the analog side of my DR1x on my 2m pair,
> > and It works, on baofeng, wouxuns, kenwood, Yaesu, and batwing ht and
> > mobiles just fine.
> >
> > --
> > Bryan
> > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of
> > this message.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 10, 2017, at 09:50, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com
> > <mailto:k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it
> >> worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For
> >> the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding
> >> of this since I lack that skill set.
> >>
> >> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios
> >> lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.
> >>
> >> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast
> >> on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified
> >> RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping
> >> CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how
> >> ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> de K0JSC
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM,
> >> <app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org
> >> <mailto:app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org>> wrote:
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> >>        1. Re: DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org>)
> >>     offline (Steve Zingman)
> >>        2. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
> >>           list. (David Shaw)
> >>        3. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
> >>           list. (Andrew Sylthe)
> >>
> >>
> >>     ------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> >>
> >>     Message: 1
> >>     Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:13:01 -0400
> >>     From: Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com
> >>     <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>>
> >>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> >>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
> >>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org
> >>     <http://dvswitch.org>) offline
> >>     Message-ID: <355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com
> >>     <mailto:355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com>>
> >>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
> >>
> >>     The AllStarLink image files are now available at
> >>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/
> >>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>> thanks to Corey N3FE The
> >>     download links have been updated to point to the new location.
> >>     Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving
> >>     dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org> and
> >>     the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data
> >>     center. The
> >>     new IP address is  for dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org> is
> >>     44.103.32.18 I will be moving the
> >>     DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a
> >>     work in progress over the next week.
> >>
> >>     On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
> >>     > As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing
> >>     > providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad
> >>     locations.
> >>     > In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid
> provider.
> >>     > The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here
> >>     is one
> >>     > of the new locations:
> >>     >
> >>     > <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/
> >>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>>
> >>     >
> >>     > 73, Steve N4IRS
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> >>     Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:59:15 -0700
> >>     From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com <mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com>>
> >>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> >>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
> >>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no
> more
> >>             on a ARM mailing list.
> >>     Message-ID:
> >>
> >>     <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ at mail.gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37%2BdpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ at mail.
> gmail.com>>
> >>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >>     Who's Source code? Just asking.
> >>
> >>     David
> >>     KE6UPI
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     --
> >>     Thanks, David
> >>
> >>     "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who
> >>     are neither
> >>     inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things
> >>     worse for
> >>     the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to
> >>     encourage
> >>     than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with
> >>     greater
> >>     confidence than an armed one."
> >>     Thomas Jefferson
> >>
> >>     On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle
> >>     <bdboyle at bdboyle.com <mailto:bdboyle at bdboyle.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     > send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats,
> >>     their public
> >>     > refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the
> >>     Open Source
> >>     > Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed
> >>     under.  Jim had an
> >>     > opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep
> >>     it open
> >>     > source.
> >>     >
> >>     > That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight
> >>     their massive
> >>     > self-reverential egos over there.
> >>     >
> >>     > (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it
> >>     like I see it)
> >>     > --
> >>     > Bryan
> >>     > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the
> >>     sending of this
> >>     > message.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net
> >>     <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     > I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough
> >>     response to have it
> >>     > here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
> >>     >
> >>     > On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > Neil,
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > I have taken these comments off list.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal
> >>     level,
> >>     >
> >>     > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that
> >>     statement is
> >>     >
> >>     > absolutely a LIE.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > With these statements you are committing criminal libel.
> >>     Whether you you
> >>     >
> >>     > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom
> >>     routers for
> >>     >
> >>     > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed
> >>     across 80+
> >>     >
> >>     > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I
> >>     seriously
> >>     >
> >>     > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back
> >>     up your
> >>     >
> >>     > statement or retract it.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing
> >>     others
> >>     > about
> >>     > it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you
> >>     threatening
> >>     > legal
> >>     > action?
> >>     >
> >>     > Release the source, you have no other option.
> >>     >
> >>     > As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the
> >>     finer points
> >>     > of
> >>     > the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with
> >>     a company
> >>     > who
> >>     > builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
> >>     >
> >>     > 73's
> >>     > --
> >>     > Bryan Fields
> >>     >
> >>     > 727-409-1194 <tel:727-409-1194> <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
> >>     > http://bryanfields.net
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> >>     From: Andrew Sylthe <asylthe at kc9ona.com <mailto:asylthe at kc9ona.com
> >>
> >>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> >>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
> >>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no
> more
> >>             on a ARM mailing list.
> >>     Message-ID:
> >>
> >>     <CAMbt3dva5PVZgpc_JpTAWpRS+hcNiGBVD=2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw at mail.gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw at mail.gmail.com>>
> >>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >>     The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...
> >>
> >>     On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx at gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     > Who's Source code? Just asking.
> >>     >
> >>     > David
> >>     > KE6UPI
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > --
> >>     > Thanks, David
> >>     >
> >>     > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who
> >>     are neither
> >>     > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things
> >>     worse for
> >>     > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather
> >>     to encourage
> >>     > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with
> >>     greater
> >>     > confidence than an armed one."
> >>     > Thomas Jefferson
> >>     >
> >>     > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle
> >>     <bdboyle at bdboyle.com <mailto:bdboyle at bdboyle.com>>
> >>     > wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     >> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats,
> >>     their public
> >>     >> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the
> >>     Open Source
> >>     >> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed
> >>     under.  Jim had an
> >>     >> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to
> >>     keep it open
> >>     >> source.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight
> their
> >>     >> massive self-reverential egos over there.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it
> >>     like I see it)
> >>     >> --
> >>     >> Bryan
> >>     >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the
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> >>     >> message.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net
> >>     <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
> >>     >>
> >>     >> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough
> >>     response to have
> >>     >> it
> >>     >> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> Neil,
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> I have taken these comments off list.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal
> >>     level,
> >>     >>
> >>     >> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that
> >>     statement is
> >>     >>
> >>     >> absolutely a LIE.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> With these statements you are committing criminal libel.
> >>     Whether you you
> >>     >>
> >>     >> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom
> >>     routers for
> >>     >>
> >>     >> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed
> >>     across 80+
> >>     >>
> >>     >> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I
> >>     seriously
> >>     >>
> >>     >> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back
> >>     up your
> >>     >>
> >>     >> statement or retract it.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> A person with such contempt for the law should not be
> >>     lecturing others
> >>     >> about
> >>     >> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you
> >>     threatening
> >>     >> legal
> >>     >> action?
> >>     >>
> >>     >> Release the source, you have no other option.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the
> >>     finer points
> >>     >> of
> >>     >> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job
> >>     with a company
> >>     >> who
> >>     >> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> 73's
> >>     >> --
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> >>     >>
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Mon Jul 10 15:38:24 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:38:24 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
Message-ID: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>

Hi Folks:

Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports 
pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when 
there is loss of commercial power?

I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned 
for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss 
of commercial power is a big plus.

In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article 
providing a review of various products:

http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass-through/

Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics 
(brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to 
Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must 
be other equivalents out there.....

Anyone have a lead on such a product?

Thanks!

Ramesh, VA3UV



From szingman at msgstor.com  Mon Jul 10 15:40:26 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:40:26 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
Message-ID: <b4906a02-4bbd-ac68-707f-9b3d56d9aba8@msgstor.com>

Hey!,
Don't pick on Florida, we have enough problems. ;)

On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports 
> pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when 
> there is loss of commercial power?
>
> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned 
> for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and 
> loss of commercial power is a big plus.
>
> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article 
> providing a review of various products:
>
> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass-through/ 
>
>
> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics 
> (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to 
> Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must 
> be other equivalents out there.....
>
> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ramesh, VA3UV
>
>



From n3xcc at repeater-builder.com  Mon Jul 10 16:13:57 2017
From: n3xcc at repeater-builder.com (Scott Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:13:57 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
Message-ID: <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>

Ramesh,

If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the 
voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815

Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".

Just my 2c.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> Hi Folks:
> 
> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output 
> voltage when there is loss of commercial power?
> 
> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during 
> brown-outs and loss of commercial power is a big plus.
> 
> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article providing a review of various products:
> 
> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass-through/
> 
> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice 
> heading up to Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other equivalents out there.....
> 
> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Ramesh, VA3UV
> 
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From n3xcc at repeater-builder.com  Mon Jul 10 16:13:57 2017
From: n3xcc at repeater-builder.com (Scott Zimmerman)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:13:57 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
Message-ID: <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>

Ramesh,

If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the 
voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815

Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".

Just my 2c.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> Hi Folks:
> 
> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output 
> voltage when there is loss of commercial power?
> 
> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during 
> brown-outs and loss of commercial power is a big plus.
> 
> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article providing a review of various products:
> 
> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass-through/
> 
> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice 
> heading up to Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other equivalents out there.....
> 
> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Ramesh, VA3UV
> 
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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Mon Jul 10 16:52:34 2017
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:52:34 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
	Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
Message-ID: <D5BABEDB-2F93-4B8A-8B15-40687A4F12EC@bdboyle.com>

I like that...didn't see the one with the micro usb plug when I bought a box of the other ones with just fly leads 6 months ago.

I'd complete it with a good 12v PS, a powergate, nice sealed gel auto battery, and a brace of these to power both the step-down feeding the Pi and the radios.  

I guess if you wanted to get fancy, you could wire in a couple coax bypass relays (if you've an amplifier after the exciter) controlled by wall current presence to cut the flamethrower out of the circuit and run in degraded mode if you lost mains.

Isn't this more fun designing?  

--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.



> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:13, Scott Zimmerman <n3xcc at repeater-builder.com> wrote:
> 
> Ramesh,
> 
> If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
> 
> Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
> 
> Just my 2c.
> 
> Scott
> 
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
>> Hi Folks:
>> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when there is loss of commercial power?
>> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss of commercial power is a big plus.
>> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article providing a review of various products:
>> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass-through/
>> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other equivalents out there.....
>> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
>> Thanks!
>> Ramesh, VA3UV
>> _______________________________________________
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From carl at n7kuw.com  Mon Jul 10 17:03:05 2017
From: carl at n7kuw.com (Carl)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:03:05 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
	Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
Message-ID: <004e01d2f99e$66231590$326940b0$@n7kuw.com>

I have not used the buck converter linked below, but I have tried using a different buck converter to go from 12V to 5V for the Pi, and found it introduced an excessive amount of noise into the Pi (which carried over into the radio audio). Something to check as you develop your power scheme.
Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:14 AM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt; app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi

Ramesh,

If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815

Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".

Just my 2c.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> Hi Folks:
> 
> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports 
> pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when there is loss of commercial power?
> 
> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned 
> for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss of commercial power is a big plus.
> 
> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article providing a review of various products:
> 
> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass
> -through/
> 
> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics 
> (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other equivalents out there.....
> 
> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Ramesh, VA3UV
> 
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From carl at n7kuw.com  Mon Jul 10 17:03:05 2017
From: carl at n7kuw.com (Carl)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:03:05 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
	Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
Message-ID: <004e01d2f99e$66231590$326940b0$@n7kuw.com>

I have not used the buck converter linked below, but I have tried using a different buck converter to go from 12V to 5V for the Pi, and found it introduced an excessive amount of noise into the Pi (which carried over into the radio audio). Something to check as you develop your power scheme.
Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:14 AM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt; app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi

Ramesh,

If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815

Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".

Just my 2c.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> Hi Folks:
> 
> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports 
> pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when there is loss of commercial power?
> 
> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned 
> for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss of commercial power is a big plus.
> 
> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article providing a review of various products:
> 
> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass
> -through/
> 
> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics 
> (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other equivalents out there.....
> 
> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Ramesh, VA3UV
> 
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From g7ltt at g7ltt.com  Mon Jul 10 17:10:36 2017
From: g7ltt at g7ltt.com (Mark Phillips)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:10:36 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <004e01d2f99e$66231590$326940b0$@n7kuw.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
 <004e01d2f99e$66231590$326940b0$@n7kuw.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ue=O79PfoXe3f8szr1komuR5zZ4Q7J53XkD+wZ_qnpifGsWw@mail.gmail.com>

OK. so now your Pi is backed up. What about the rest of the network? Is the
ethernet swich, cable modem etc etc also on a UPS? No point otherwise.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Carl <carl at n7kuw.com> wrote:

> I have not used the buck converter linked below, but I have tried using a
> different buck converter to go from 12V to 5V for the Pi, and found it
> introduced an excessive amount of noise into the Pi (which carried over
> into the radio audio). Something to check as you develop your power scheme.
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
> On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:14 AM
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt; app_rpt
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
> Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
>
> Ramesh,
>
> If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v
> float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v.
> Something like this would do nicely:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
>
> Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
>
> Just my 2c.
>
> Scott
>
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
>
> On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> > Hi Folks:
> >
> > Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports
> > pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when
> there is loss of commercial power?
> >
> > I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned
> > for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss
> of commercial power is a big plus.
> >
> > In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article
> providing a review of various products:
> >
> > http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass
> > -through/
> >
> > Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics
> > (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to
> Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be
> other equivalents out there.....
> >
> > Anyone have a lead on such a product?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ramesh, VA3UV
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 17:11:37 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:11:37 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
	Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
Message-ID: <297355E7-C016-4FDE-BA71-D1553887A02B@gmail.com>

I've looked at these 13 v devices and always wonder it they will handle the 15 CDC of an auto charging system like all our radios. Some 12 vdc evils will only work properly if the have 12 vdc not 13.8 vdc for example. The information on these devices is lacking. Any insight into to this issue? Just too bad the rest of the electronics world does not have a ham background. Sigh!

Thanks,
Bob
k6ecm
73
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Scott Zimmerman <n3xcc at repeater-builder.com> wrote:
> 
> Ramesh,
> 
> If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
> 
> Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
> 
> Just my 2c.
> 
> Scott
> 
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
> 
>> On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
>> Hi Folks:
>> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when there is loss of commercial power?
>> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss of commercial power is a big plus.
>> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article providing a review of various products:
>> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass-through/
>> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other equivalents out there.....
>> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
>> Thanks!
>> Ramesh, VA3UV
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From g7ltt at g7ltt.com  Mon Jul 10 17:12:27 2017
From: g7ltt at g7ltt.com (Mark Phillips)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:12:27 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ue=O7xCUg=5m5TA+2A0U+5f=t=gEw5c9Ksd1ZQ_5+akmp5+A@mail.gmail.com>

I use one of these to power the Pi that runs my 3D printer. It's wired in
to the printer supply. One switch does it all. they are great little
gizmo's. I bought a second one to run the Pi based hotspot in my car - when
I get around to it.

Mark

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Scott Zimmerman <
n3xcc at repeater-builder.com> wrote:

> Ramesh,
>
> If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v
> float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v.
> Something like this would do nicely:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
>
> Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
>
> Just my 2c.
>
> Scott
>
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
>
> On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks:
>>
>> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports
>> pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when there
>> is loss of commercial power?
>>
>> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned for
>> electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss of
>> commercial power is a big plus.
>>
>> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article providing
>> a review of various products:
>>
>> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-ban
>> k-ups-pass-through/
>>
>> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics
>> (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to Alum
>> Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other
>> equivalents out there.....
>>
>> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ramesh, VA3UV
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From g7ltt at g7ltt.com  Mon Jul 10 17:14:09 2017
From: g7ltt at g7ltt.com (Mark Phillips)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:14:09 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <297355E7-C016-4FDE-BA71-D1553887A02B@gmail.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
 <297355E7-C016-4FDE-BA71-D1553887A02B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ue=O7wpzP3SNsBWv5eJbUeR7O-t3YC3mM1DyDr6x+V6peDpw@mail.gmail.com>

Tested mine on the shack supply. Works OK at up to 15V. YMMV though.

Mark

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've looked at these 13 v devices and always wonder it they will handle
> the 15 CDC of an auto charging system like all our radios. Some 12 vdc
> evils will only work properly if the have 12 vdc not 13.8 vdc for example.
> The information on these devices is lacking. Any insight into to this
> issue? Just too bad the rest of the electronics world does not have a ham
> background. Sigh!
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
> k6ecm
> 73
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 10, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Scott Zimmerman <n3xcc at repeater-builder.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ramesh,
> >
> > If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v
> float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v.
> Something like this would do nicely:
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
> >
> > Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
> >
> > Just my 2c.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Scott Zimmerman
> > Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> > 474 Barnett Road
> > Boswell, PA 15531
> >
> >> On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> >> Hi Folks:
> >> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports
> pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when there
> is loss of commercial power?
> >> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned
> for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss of
> commercial power is a big plus.
> >> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article
> providing a review of various products:
> >> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-
> bank-ups-pass-through/
> >> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics
> (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to Alum
> Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other
> equivalents out there.....
> >> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
> >> Thanks!
> >> Ramesh, VA3UV
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Mon Jul 10 17:14:14 2017
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:14:14 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <CA+ue=O7xCUg=5m5TA+2A0U+5f=t=gEw5c9Ksd1ZQ_5+akmp5+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
 <CA+ue=O7xCUg=5m5TA+2A0U+5f=t=gEw5c9Ksd1ZQ_5+akmp5+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABbxpd8xLcAUvRKTkzRd+AsatWXtL57m6sZitXg+vq5KyqAqoA@mail.gmail.com>

For 5v power, I've used one of these with good results:

https://powerwerx.com/usbbuddy-powerpole-usb-converter-device-charger

73
Stephen
K1LNX

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Mark Phillips <g7ltt at g7ltt.com> wrote:

> I use one of these to power the Pi that runs my 3D printer. It's wired in
> to the printer supply. One switch does it all. they are great little
> gizmo's. I bought a second one to run the Pi based hotspot in my car - when
> I get around to it.
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Scott Zimmerman <
> n3xcc at repeater-builder.com> wrote:
>
>> Ramesh,
>>
>> If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v
>> float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v.
>> Something like this would do nicely:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
>>
>> Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
>>
>> Just my 2c.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Scott Zimmerman
>> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
>> 474 Barnett Road
>> Boswell, PA 15531
>>
>> On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks:
>>>
>>> Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports
>>> pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when there
>>> is loss of commercial power?
>>>
>>> I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned
>>> for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss of
>>> commercial power is a big plus.
>>>
>>> In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article
>>> providing a review of various products:
>>>
>>> http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-ban
>>> k-ups-pass-through/
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics
>>> (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to Alum
>>> Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other
>>> equivalents out there.....
>>>
>>> Anyone have a lead on such a product?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ramesh, VA3UV
>>>
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From buddy at brannan.name  Mon Jul 10 17:14:59 2017
From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:14:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <CA+ue=O79PfoXe3f8szr1komuR5zZ4Q7J53XkD+wZ_qnpifGsWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
 <004e01d2f99e$66231590$326940b0$@n7kuw.com>
 <CA+ue=O79PfoXe3f8szr1komuR5zZ4Q7J53XkD+wZ_qnpifGsWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A0128CD1-E14A-411C-AB57-3C02D44315FB@brannan.name>

Sure there is...if you're using asterisk as your repeater controller. OK, no network connectivity would suck, but no repeater would suck more. 

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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Mark Phillips <g7ltt at g7ltt.com> wrote:
> 
> OK. so now your Pi is backed up. What about the rest of the network? Is the ethernet swich, cable modem etc etc also on a UPS? No point otherwise.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Carl <carl at n7kuw.com> wrote:
> I have not used the buck converter linked below, but I have tried using a different buck converter to go from 12V to 5V for the Pi, and found it introduced an excessive amount of noise into the Pi (which carried over into the radio audio). Something to check as you develop your power scheme.
> Carl
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:14 AM
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt; app_rpt
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
> 
> Ramesh,
> 
> If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
> 
> Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
> 
> Just my 2c.
> 
> Scott
> 
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
> 
> On 7/10/2017 11:38 AM, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> > Hi Folks:
> >
> > Wonder if anyone has a lead on a USB Battery Bank that supports
> > pass-through charging and does NOT interrupt the output voltage when there is loss of commercial power?
> >
> > I'd like to use a battery bank on my remote node down in FL (renowned
> > for electrical storms!), so keeping the Pi up during brown-outs and loss of commercial power is a big plus.
> >
> > In case folks are interested - here is a link to a good article providing a review of various products:
> >
> > http://www.theoutpost.org/6-techy/raspberry-pi-usb-power-bank-ups-pass
> > -through/
> >
> > Unfortunately, the leading contender, the product from RS Electronics
> > (brings back memories of my "jollies" as an Apprentice heading up to Alum Rock in Birmingham ;) is not available in N. America.  There must be other equivalents out there.....
> >
> > Anyone have a lead on such a product?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ramesh, VA3UV
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From demoman at rollanet.org  Mon Jul 10 17:23:01 2017
From: demoman at rollanet.org (Chris Curtis)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:23:01 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
	Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
Message-ID: <047e01d2f9a1$2f9c77c0$8ed56740$@org>

That's how I power my piGATE.
12v battery charged via solar with a nearly identical converter w/usb port.

Good luck OP

Chris
KB0WLF

> -----Original Message-----
> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-
> bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 11:14 AM
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt; app_rpt
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass
> Through Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
> 
> Ramesh,
> 
> If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v
> float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the
> voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
> 
> Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
> 
> Just my 2c.
> 
> Scott
> 
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
> 



From shawpbx at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 19:02:19 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:02:19 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <047e01d2f9a1$2f9c77c0$8ed56740$@org>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
 <047e01d2f9a1$2f9c77c0$8ed56740$@org>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbKquJ7vctvEd1xJ4wmZmvKoqE-kAtB5GmMkg4i6bHHYQg@mail.gmail.com>

OK I'll jump in. Check when they go on sale. If they aren't ask for the
sale price. They work great on my MMDVMHost Raspberry Pi and my motorcycle.

https://www.cyclegear.com/accessories/trackside-usb-outlet

David



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Thanks, David

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the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Chris Curtis <demoman at rollanet.org> wrote:

> That's how I power my piGATE.
> 12v battery charged via solar with a nearly identical converter w/usb port.
>
> Good luck OP
>
> Chris
> KB0WLF
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-
> > bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
> > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 11:14 AM
> > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt; app_rpt
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass
> > Through Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
> >
> > Ramesh,
> >
> > If it were me, I would use a 7ah 12v backup battery with a "normal" 12v
> > float charger, then use a buck converter to lower the
> > voltage down to 5v. Something like this would do nicely:
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262908222815
> >
> > Using 12v storage makes things more "standard".
> >
> > Just my 2c.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Scott Zimmerman
> > Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> > 474 Barnett Road
> > Boswell, PA 15531
> >
>
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Mon Jul 10 19:56:18 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:56:18 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <004e01d2f99e$66231590$326940b0$@n7kuw.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
 <004e01d2f99e$66231590$326940b0$@n7kuw.com>
Message-ID: <a76ba8bb-72ed-6482-b604-7fc5ceec271f@va3uv.com>

On 2017-07-10 1:03 PM, Carl wrote:
> I have not used the buck converter linked below, but I have tried using a different buck converter to go from 12V to 5V for the Pi, and found it introduced an excessive amount of noise into the Pi (which carried over into the radio audio). Something to check as you develop your power scheme.
> Carl
>
<-- Hi Carl:  Absolutely, I have some of those converters from "CPT" and 
just as you describe, I found them to induce noise into the Pi / fob, 
which then get into the audio stream.  Not good!

My original plan was to use the Battery Bank (dual USB output) to power 
both the Pi and my Baofeng BF888s... but, in doing so, I get a humm on 
the TX audio out of the Baofeng.  When I move the Baofeng's over to a 
separate wallwart / USB charger, the noise goes away.

To Mark's question (Gee, where did you crawl out from? ;) keeping the Pi 
up during a power blip, etc., eliminates the need for someone to go to 
site to recycle power to the Pi.  Everything else, losing power, isn't 
such a big issue... just trying to keep the Pi somewhat immune to power 
blips.

Cheers!

Ramesh.


From tisawyer at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 20:17:07 2017
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:17:07 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9sO+kPJ7H_k5PxDTn_r0ZqXFWB210oJ-m65g3uGVwpaJg@mail.gmail.com>

My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are loosing lock of
late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode 40 is shown below. I read that
all zeros was good but I'm wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does
any know how to decode this?


GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04

07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...

07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04

GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00

GPS signal acquired

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00

07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00

07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00


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From ve7lyd at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 20:29:07 2017
From: ve7lyd at gmail.com (Jesse Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:29:07 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
In-Reply-To: <CAG3ht9sO+kPJ7H_k5PxDTn_r0ZqXFWB210oJ-m65g3uGVwpaJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG3ht9sO+kPJ7H_k5PxDTn_r0ZqXFWB210oJ-m65g3uGVwpaJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <881C5DA5-D3E7-45A8-858F-289A29CC81F7@gmail.com>

I've had problems with the VHF transmitter antennas being too close to the GPS antenna and RF swamping it. If you go to site and use the Trimble software to see satellite signal data then key the transmitter, mine would show a loss of almost all the satellites.  

Cheers,
Jesse

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are loosing lock of late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode 40 is shown below. I read that all zeros was good but I'm wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does any know how to decode this?
> 
> 
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> GPS signal acquired
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 
> 
> -- 
> --
> Tim
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 20:49:18 2017
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:49:18 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
In-Reply-To: <881C5DA5-D3E7-45A8-858F-289A29CC81F7@gmail.com>
References: <CAG3ht9sO+kPJ7H_k5PxDTn_r0ZqXFWB210oJ-m65g3uGVwpaJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <881C5DA5-D3E7-45A8-858F-289A29CC81F7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9tF_E3WjBWc3TBKMPS0UGZWA=XwFvNunxmc0iXj2RQfiQ@mail.gmail.com>

There is a pattern to the debug out put which looks like below. Sure would
like to decode this:

It's happy when there are all zeros. Then it does 18 08 06

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06
07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05

Repeats, trimmed for brevity.

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
GPS signal acquired
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
07/10/2017 20:36:03.100  Time now syncronized to GPS
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
07/10/2017 20:36:03.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08

Repeats, trimmed for brevity.

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
07/10/2017 20:36:52.200  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
07/10/2017 20:36:52.220  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
GPS signal acquired
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
07/10/2017 20:36:56.220  Time now syncronized to GPS
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
07/10/2017 20:36:56.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00

Now it will have all zeros until the next loss, which could be minutes or
hours.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've had problems with the VHF transmitter antennas being too close to the
> GPS antenna and RF swamping it. If you go to site and use the Trimble
> software to see satellite signal data then key the transmitter, mine would
> show a loss of almost all the satellites.
>
> Cheers,
> Jesse
>
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are loosing lock of
> late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode 40 is shown below. I read that
> all zeros was good but I'm wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does
> any know how to decode this?
>
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>
> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>
> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>
> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> GPS signal acquired
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
>
> --
> --
> Tim
>
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 20:50:46 2017
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:50:46 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
In-Reply-To: <881C5DA5-D3E7-45A8-858F-289A29CC81F7@gmail.com>
References: <CAG3ht9sO+kPJ7H_k5PxDTn_r0ZqXFWB210oJ-m65g3uGVwpaJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <881C5DA5-D3E7-45A8-858F-289A29CC81F7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9uariuEMVBxwv7ah6zcJ4gVCLaYDOShpfaPS3mX8sWsVg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, I will check for desense when I go up. Seems some antennas are worst
than others in that regard. It's been good for years but things do change.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've had problems with the VHF transmitter antennas being too close to the
> GPS antenna and RF swamping it. If you go to site and use the Trimble
> software to see satellite signal data then key the transmitter, mine would
> show a loss of almost all the satellites.
>
> Cheers,
> Jesse
>
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are loosing lock of
> late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode 40 is shown below. I read that
> all zeros was good but I'm wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does
> any know how to decode this?
>
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>
> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>
> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>
> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> GPS signal acquired
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
>
> --
> --
> Tim
>
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From steve at siesel.net  Tue Jul 11 01:28:07 2017
From: steve at siesel.net (Steve Siesel)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 21:28:07 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] nodes update....
Message-ID: <00b901d2f9e4$f3705250$da50f6f0$@siesel.net>

 

Since there has been an uptick in the chatter here, I need some help!

 

Last week I noticed that my /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes hadn't updated
for several days. What mechanism should be making the nodes to update? 

After searching the list archives I decided to add a cron job to the crontab

 

*/10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/rc.updatenodelist &

 

That did seem to work however I have a lot of stale processes when I do a ps
-aux

 

Lots of this:

 

root     32400  0.0  0.2   5032  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32405  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32417  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32422  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32427  0.0  0.0   3640   360 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32432  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32442  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32450  0.0  0.2   5028  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32497  0.0  0.0   3640   352 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32501  0.0  0.0   3640   340 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32509  0.0  0.0   3640   352 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32525  0.0  0.2   5028  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32530  0.0  0.2   4952  2736 ?        S    Jul09   0:02 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32534  0.0  0.0   3640   324 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 7200

root     32539  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32542  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32547  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32566  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 7200

root     32568  0.0  0.2   5012  2796 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32571  0.0  0.0   3640   368 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32574  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32582  0.0  0.2   5040  2816 ?        S    Jul06   0:05 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32589  0.0  0.2   4876  2660 ?        S    19:20   0:00 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32608  0.0  0.0   3640   376 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 7200

root     32615  0.0  0.0   3640   368 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32620  0.0  0.0   3640   324 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32625  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32633  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32634  0.0  0.2   5032  2816 ?        S    Jul06   0:04 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32635  0.0  0.0   3640   328 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 7200

root     32674  0.0  0.0   3640   376 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32685  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32686  0.0  0.2   4956  2740 ?        S    Jul09   0:02 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32691  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32696  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600

root     32702  0.0  0.3   5080  2864 ?        S    Jul05   0:06 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32725  0.0  0.0   3640   356 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600

root     32731  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600

root     32766  0.0  0.2   4920  2756 ?        S    00:20   0:01 /bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rc.updat

root     32767  0.0  0.0   3640   348 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600

 

Can someone help me clean this up?

 

Thanks,

Steve 

K4KSA

 

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From szingman at msgstor.com  Tue Jul 11 01:30:35 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 21:30:35 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] nodes update....
In-Reply-To: <00b901d2f9e4$f3705250$da50f6f0$@siesel.net>
References: <00b901d2f9e4$f3705250$da50f6f0$@siesel.net>
Message-ID: <31074b10-cc94-c413-b862-ac01c082574c@msgstor.com>

if it's RC1, systemctl restart updatenodelist

On 07/10/2017 09:28 PM, Steve Siesel wrote:
>
> Since there has been an uptick in the chatter here, I need some help!
>
> Last week I noticed that my /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes hadn?t 
> updated for several days? What mechanism should be making the nodes to 
> update?
>
> After searching the list archives I decided to add a cron job to the 
> crontab
>
> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/rc.updatenodelist &
>
> That did seem to work however I have a lot of stale processes when I 
> do a ps ?aux
>
> Lots of this:
>
> root     32400  0.0  0.2   5032  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32405  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32417  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32422  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32427  0.0  0.0   3640   360 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32432  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32442  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32450  0.0  0.2   5028  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32497  0.0  0.0   3640   352 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32501  0.0  0.0   3640   340 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32509  0.0  0.0   3640   352 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32525  0.0  0.2   5028  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32530  0.0  0.2   4952  2736 ?        S    Jul09   0:02 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32534  0.0  0.0   3640   324 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 
> 7200
>
> root     32539  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32542  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32547  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32566  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 
> 7200
>
> root     32568  0.0  0.2   5012  2796 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32571  0.0  0.0   3640   368 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32574  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32582  0.0  0.2   5040  2816 ?        S    Jul06   0:05 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32589  0.0  0.2   4876  2660 ?        S    19:20   0:00 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32608  0.0  0.0   3640   376 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 
> 7200
>
> root     32615  0.0  0.0   3640   368 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32620  0.0  0.0   3640   324 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32625  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32633  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32634  0.0  0.2   5032  2816 ?        S    Jul06   0:04 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32635  0.0  0.0   3640   328 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 
> 7200
>
> root     32674  0.0  0.0   3640   376 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32685  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32686  0.0  0.2   4956  2740 ?        S    Jul09   0:02 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32691  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32696  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32702  0.0  0.3   5080  2864 ?        S    Jul05   0:06 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32725  0.0  0.0   3640   356 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32731  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32766  0.0  0.2   4920  2756 ?        S    00:20   0:01 
> /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32767  0.0  0.0   3640   348 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600
>
> Can someone help me clean this up?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> K4KSA
>
>
>
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 01:47:33 2017
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:47:33 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] nodes update....
In-Reply-To: <00b901d2f9e4$f3705250$da50f6f0$@siesel.net>
References: <00b901d2f9e4$f3705250$da50f6f0$@siesel.net>
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9sFyZ-H+843MUON2ta0SLD0=QKFFZKjq32RoMQBCbXJGA@mail.gmail.com>

The ampersand at the end of your cron command puts the process in the
background every time the job runs. Furthermore, I believe
rc.updatenodelist also deamonizes the process. That's why you have all
those process. Steve's post is the correct approach.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Steve Siesel <steve at siesel.net> wrote:

>
>
> Since there has been an uptick in the chatter here, I need some help!
>
>
>
> Last week I noticed that my /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes hadn?t updated
> for several days? What mechanism should be making the nodes to update?
>
> After searching the list archives I decided to add a cron job to the
> crontab
>
>
>
> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/rc.updatenodelist &
>
>
>
> That did seem to work however I have a lot of stale processes when I do a
> ps ?aux
>
>
>
> Lots of this:
>
>
>
> root     32400  0.0  0.2   5032  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32405  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32417  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32422  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32427  0.0  0.0   3640   360 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32432  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32442  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32450  0.0  0.2   5028  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32497  0.0  0.0   3640   352 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32501  0.0  0.0   3640   340 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32509  0.0  0.0   3640   352 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32525  0.0  0.2   5028  2812 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32530  0.0  0.2   4952  2736 ?        S    Jul09   0:02 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32534  0.0  0.0   3640   324 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 7200
>
> root     32539  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32542  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32547  0.0  0.0   3640   372 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32566  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 7200
>
> root     32568  0.0  0.2   5012  2796 ?        S    Jul07   0:04 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32571  0.0  0.0   3640   368 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32574  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32582  0.0  0.2   5040  2816 ?        S    Jul06   0:05 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32589  0.0  0.2   4876  2660 ?        S    19:20   0:00 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32608  0.0  0.0   3640   376 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 7200
>
> root     32615  0.0  0.0   3640   368 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32620  0.0  0.0   3640   324 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32625  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32633  0.0  0.0   3640   344 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32634  0.0  0.2   5032  2816 ?        S    Jul06   0:04 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32635  0.0  0.0   3640   328 ?        S    19:32   0:00 sleep 7200
>
> root     32674  0.0  0.0   3640   376 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32685  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32686  0.0  0.2   4956  2740 ?        S    Jul09   0:02 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32691  0.0  0.0   3640   332 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32696  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:24   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32702  0.0  0.3   5080  2864 ?        S    Jul05   0:06 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32725  0.0  0.0   3640   356 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32731  0.0  0.0   3640   364 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600
>
> root     32766  0.0  0.2   4920  2756 ?        S    00:20   0:01 /bin/bash
> /usr/local/bin/rc.updat
>
> root     32767  0.0  0.0   3640   348 ?        S    21:25   0:00 sleep 600
>
>
>
> Can someone help me clean this up?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> K4KSA
>
>
>
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 11:32:28 2017
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (ARS W5OMR)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 06:32:28 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a
 ARM mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <04f3c7e0-2192-4f8c-4d55-2daec20b0a10@bryanfields.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707091257320.25853-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
 <04f3c7e0-2192-4f8c-4d55-2daec20b0a10@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CAOhDOk3t83nVP5TALscinjVRybJAcXmm+2-SBfT6nc8E_n=2PA@mail.gmail.com>

Add me to that list ... Oh I still get it... But since I can't post, I
can't unsubscribe...
And, yes, Doug is an ass.

On Jul 9, 2017 12:35, "Bryan Fields" <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough response to have it
> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
>
> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
> >
> > Neil,
> >
> > I have taken these comments off list.
> >
> > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal level,
> > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that statement is
> > absolutely a LIE.
> >
> > With these statements you are committing criminal libel. Whether you you
> > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom routers for
> > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed across 80+
> > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I seriously
> > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back up your
> > statement or retract it.
>
> A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing others
> about
> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you threatening
> legal
> action?
>
> Release the source, you have no other option.
>
> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the finer points
> of
> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with a company
> who
> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
>
> 73's
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 11:34:17 2017
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (ARS W5OMR)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 06:34:17 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOhDOk3mmOZGafuZtS04fAVHhp7-7=5eVwkPZma8n4mrRmaGGw@mail.gmail.com>

voipham.com is Cromptons site, sorry to say...

On Jul 8, 2017 18:56, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images)
> is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and
> was unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
> available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think that?s
> Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>
>
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
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From jerutley at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 12:19:25 2017
From: jerutley at gmail.com (Jeremy Utley)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:19:25 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <CAOhDOk3mmOZGafuZtS04fAVHhp7-7=5eVwkPZma8n4mrRmaGGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <CAOhDOk3mmOZGafuZtS04fAVHhp7-7=5eVwkPZma8n4mrRmaGGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <077f01d2fa3f$efcd52a0$cf67f7e0$@gmail.com>

Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.

 

Back to work?

 

Jeremy, NQ0M

 

From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of ARS W5OMR
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:34 AM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline

 

voipham.com <http://voipham.com>  is Cromptons site, sorry to say...

 

On Jul 8, 2017 18:56, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com <mailto:jerutley at gmail.com> > wrote:

Anyone know why dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org>  (the official download site for Dial images) is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and was unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com <http://voipham.com>  (at least I think that?s Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.

 

Jeremy, NQ0M


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From szingman at msgstor.com  Tue Jul 11 12:20:53 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 08:20:53 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site
In-Reply-To: <CAOhDOk3mmOZGafuZtS04fAVHhp7-7=5eVwkPZma8n4mrRmaGGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <CAOhDOk3mmOZGafuZtS04fAVHhp7-7=5eVwkPZma8n4mrRmaGGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cc20be7e-ac94-98a5-ab35-02225b97fe2d@msgstor.com>

The AllStarLink image file links have been updated to point to 
<http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/> thanks to Corey N3FE. Thanks to 
Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I have moved dvswitch.org to a new state 
of the art data center. The new IP address is  for dvswitch.org is 
44.103.32.18 I have  moved the DNS entries and replaced the mirror of 
some of the image files. This is still a work in progress. We will 
update the links to reflect both locations so this type of outage should 
not happen again.

On 7/11/2017 7:34 AM, ARS W5OMR wrote:
> voipham.com <http://voipham.com> is Cromptons site, sorry to say...
>
> On Jul 8, 2017 18:56, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jerutley at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Anyone know why dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org> (the official
>     download site for Dial images) is offline?  I was trying to
>     download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and was unsuccessful. 
>     Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it available
>     from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com <http://voipham.com> (at
>     least I think that?s Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node
>     reinstalled.
>
>     Jeremy, NQ0M
>
>

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From ke2n at cs.com  Tue Jul 11 13:18:29 2017
From: ke2n at cs.com (Ken)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 09:18:29 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes
	running on a Pi
Message-ID: <021c01d2fa48$2ff1a2c0$8fd4e840$@cs.com>

To make sure the device can withstand voltages normally encountered with
charging a lead acid battery you should search for one specified to work in
a car.
For example, search using the following key words:

6-24V to 5V 3A CAR USB Charger Module DC Buck Step down Converter Module

You can find one for 99 cents including free shipping from China - (I have
not tried it)

73
Ken
KE2N


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Pyke [mailto:k6ecm1 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 1:12 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi

I've looked at these 13 v devices and always wonder it they will handle the
15 CDC of an auto charging system like all our radios. Some 12 vdc evils
will only work properly if the have 12 vdc not 13.8 vdc for example. The
information on these devices is lacking. Any insight into to this issue?
Just too bad the rest of the electronics world does not have a ham
background. Sigh!

Thanks,
Bob
k6ecm
73
Sent from my iPhone




From kc2irv at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 17:26:03 2017
From: kc2irv at gmail.com (Joe Moskalski)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:26:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turning RTCM Preemphasis off
Message-ID: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>

I wanted to pose this question in case anyone knows how to do this or not
or if its even possible.
I currently have a need in a new simulcast system to not have the audio
that comes out of the RTCM preemphed. I have done some digging and so far I
have not uncovered a solution other than an external deemphasis circuit on
the output.

Thanks,
Joe - KC2IRV
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 17:42:36 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 10:42:36 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio pre- & de-emphasis
Message-ID: <8D46BAB7-78CF-4D90-92D8-7AF35600CCA5@gmail.com>

When I first setup a RPi with DIAL on our repeater, it sounded tinny, and I made a change in configuration in usbradio that de-emphasized the audio. It was too much, loosing too many of the higher frequency components that make for clarity of audio. I'm looking for information on what settings (e.g. dsp, and the rx and tx settings, =flat, =speaker, etc) that have a pre- or de-emphasis effects in app_rpt. A general discussion would be useful as well. I can address this in hardware, but wanted to explore the software approach first.

Thanks,
Bob

Sent from my iPhone

From kuggie at kuggie.com  Tue Jul 11 19:05:53 2017
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:05:53 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio pre- & de-emphasis
In-Reply-To: <8D46BAB7-78CF-4D90-92D8-7AF35600CCA5@gmail.com>
References: <8D46BAB7-78CF-4D90-92D8-7AF35600CCA5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c4b172fd-b5bf-a77e-7658-dc1c42b5c977@kuggie.com>

Sounds like you're de-emphasizing the RX audio and not pre-emphasizing 
the TA audio, but should be.

The exact set-up is determined by the radio and what it wants/needs.  
What radio are you using and how do you have it connected?  What radio 
adapter are you using?

Kevin




On 7/11/2017 1:42 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:
> When I first setup a RPi with DIAL on our repeater, it sounded tinny, and I made a change in configuration in usbradio that de-emphasized the audio. It was too much, loosing too many of the higher frequency components that make for clarity of audio. I'm looking for information on what settings (e.g. dsp, and the rx and tx settings, =flat, =speaker, etc) that have a pre- or de-emphasis effects in app_rpt. A general discussion would be useful as well. I can address this in hardware, but wanted to explore the software approach first.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob



From kj6qfs at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 19:42:56 2017
From: kj6qfs at gmail.com (Sam Skolfield)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:42:56 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turning RTCM Preemphasis off
In-Reply-To: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALK+jHHzVx=uGoBvdy2oJPkRQrw2zamg4ieH25w+_w-X8GMqFA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Joe,
If you don't specify a PL tone in the voter.conf, the RTCM stops
preemphasizing. If you need the PL generation, you're stuck.

Hope all is well.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26 AM Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wanted to pose this question in case anyone knows how to do this or not
> or if its even possible.
> I currently have a need in a new simulcast system to not have the audio
> that comes out of the RTCM preemphed. I have done some digging and so far I
> have not uncovered a solution other than an external deemphasis circuit on
> the output.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe - KC2IRV
> _______________________________________________
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From kc2irv at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 19:48:34 2017
From: kc2irv at gmail.com (Joe Moskalski)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:48:34 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turning RTCM Preemphasis off
In-Reply-To: <CALK+jHHzVx=uGoBvdy2oJPkRQrw2zamg4ieH25w+_w-X8GMqFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALK+jHHzVx=uGoBvdy2oJPkRQrw2zamg4ieH25w+_w-X8GMqFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAES28qz7yqtoFLq_nH3ZXyu2cqLCMa8PpuSNKuKFr1BqUdkroA@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, that's what I kept seeing, I was hoping there was a way around that.
I am guessing this can be dealt with in the code but I don't really have
that ability, external Deemphasis it is then.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Sam Skolfield <kj6qfs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Joe,
> If you don't specify a PL tone in the voter.conf, the RTCM stops
> preemphasizing. If you need the PL generation, you're stuck.
>
> Hope all is well.
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26 AM Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I wanted to pose this question in case anyone knows how to do this or not
>> or if its even possible.
>> I currently have a need in a new simulcast system to not have the audio
>> that comes out of the RTCM preemphed. I have done some digging and so far I
>> have not uncovered a solution other than an external deemphasis circuit on
>> the output.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joe - KC2IRV
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
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>> the list detailing the problem.
>
> --
> KJ6QFS
> Sam Skolfield
>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Jul 11 20:00:03 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:00:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turning RTCM Preemphasis off
In-Reply-To: <CAES28qz7yqtoFLq_nH3ZXyu2cqLCMa8PpuSNKuKFr1BqUdkroA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALK+jHHzVx=uGoBvdy2oJPkRQrw2zamg4ieH25w+_w-X8GMqFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAES28qz7yqtoFLq_nH3ZXyu2cqLCMa8PpuSNKuKFr1BqUdkroA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bb18f542-8887-d0a8-7e36-aa69becdefe3@bryanfields.net>

On 7/11/17 3:48 PM, Joe Moskalski wrote:
> Yeah, that's what I kept seeing, I was hoping there was a way around that. I
> am guessing this can be dealt with in the code but I don't really have that
> ability, external Deemphasis it is then.

A better question,

How are you planing to use PL on transmit but not inject into the modulator
directly?  If you use a de-emphasized input the PL will be distorted on transmit.

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From kc2irv at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 20:12:11 2017
From: kc2irv at gmail.com (Joe Moskalski)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:12:11 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turning RTCM Preemphasis off
In-Reply-To: <bb18f542-8887-d0a8-7e36-aa69becdefe3@bryanfields.net>
References: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALK+jHHzVx=uGoBvdy2oJPkRQrw2zamg4ieH25w+_w-X8GMqFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAES28qz7yqtoFLq_nH3ZXyu2cqLCMa8PpuSNKuKFr1BqUdkroA@mail.gmail.com>
 <bb18f542-8887-d0a8-7e36-aa69becdefe3@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CAES28qwE5kWmOo37mo7BAuD5N5HfXyJN-ahUTM5zoBPQq_HBXA@mail.gmail.com>

I will be separating the voice audio and PL audio using active filters so
that I can inject the PL tone and Transmit audio to separate points on the
transmitter so that the Transmit audio and PL tone level can be adjusted
independently at each transmitter in the simulcast system. Unfortunately
this transmitter adds preemphasis to the transmit audio and this cannot be
changed in the transmitter.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

> On 7/11/17 3:48 PM, Joe Moskalski wrote:
> > Yeah, that's what I kept seeing, I was hoping there was a way around
> that. I
> > am guessing this can be dealt with in the code but I don't really have
> that
> > ability, external Deemphasis it is then.
>
> A better question,
>
> How are you planing to use PL on transmit but not inject into the modulator
> directly?  If you use a de-emphasized input the PL will be distorted on
> transmit.
>
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Jul 11 20:16:46 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:16:46 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turning RTCM Preemphasis off
In-Reply-To: <CAES28qwE5kWmOo37mo7BAuD5N5HfXyJN-ahUTM5zoBPQq_HBXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALK+jHHzVx=uGoBvdy2oJPkRQrw2zamg4ieH25w+_w-X8GMqFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAES28qz7yqtoFLq_nH3ZXyu2cqLCMa8PpuSNKuKFr1BqUdkroA@mail.gmail.com>
 <bb18f542-8887-d0a8-7e36-aa69becdefe3@bryanfields.net>
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Message-ID: <87fa8374-15f5-e836-81b4-33ed226dc45d@bryanfields.net>

On 7/11/17 4:12 PM, Joe Moskalski wrote:
> I will be separating the voice audio and PL audio using active filters so that
> I can inject the PL tone and Transmit audio to separate points on the
> transmitter so that the Transmit audio and PL tone level can be adjusted
> independently at each transmitter in the simulcast system. Unfortunately this
> transmitter adds preemphasis to the transmit audio and this cannot be changed
> in the transmitter. 

You certainly understand it then, and sound like it's under control.  Lots of
simulcast questions don't quite have the same level of detail understanding.

Easiest way is to change the code or do an external filter.  Since you're
building a board anyways, an external filter would probably be the easy way to
do it.

I'd (and I'm sure others) be interested in the details of your system when you
get it working.

73's
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From kuggie at kuggie.com  Tue Jul 11 20:00:49 2017
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:00:49 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turning RTCM Preemphasis off
In-Reply-To: <CAES28qz7yqtoFLq_nH3ZXyu2cqLCMa8PpuSNKuKFr1BqUdkroA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALK+jHHzVx=uGoBvdy2oJPkRQrw2zamg4ieH25w+_w-X8GMqFA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <a1c34ae1-03f2-67c4-c579-ad13b4c5dfcc@kuggie.com>

On 7/11/2017 3:48 PM, Joe Moskalski wrote:
> Yeah, that's what I kept seeing, I was hoping there was a way around 
> that. I am guessing this can be dealt with in the code but I don't 
> really have that ability, external Deemphasis it is then.

What kind of equipment are you using for the transmitter?  If it's 
possible to inject your audio directly into the modulator, and that 
modulator is FM, then all would be well.  Of course, if your transmitter 
has a phase modulator, then this approach won't help.

Kevin


From kc2irv at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 20:23:28 2017
From: kc2irv at gmail.com (Joe Moskalski)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:23:28 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Turning RTCM Preemphasis off
In-Reply-To: <87fa8374-15f5-e836-81b4-33ed226dc45d@bryanfields.net>
References: <CAES28qwWQHfvKJLqXpUyPwaU4ZQ1PUvvj7XRdHd6EGpua0LCeA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALK+jHHzVx=uGoBvdy2oJPkRQrw2zamg4ieH25w+_w-X8GMqFA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAES28qz7yqtoFLq_nH3ZXyu2cqLCMa8PpuSNKuKFr1BqUdkroA@mail.gmail.com>
 <bb18f542-8887-d0a8-7e36-aa69becdefe3@bryanfields.net>
 <CAES28qwE5kWmOo37mo7BAuD5N5HfXyJN-ahUTM5zoBPQq_HBXA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAES28qwLSVGxrFofSeBa-uSma2WWvwihhazG_wTfGXEsDpjYdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sure, the two site system I have on the air now works very well. I modified
the transmitters to modulate the VCO directly and by luck their frequency
response across the audio spectrum happened to be identical. When I went to
add a thrid transmitter to this system using an identical model unit I
found the frequency response slightly different causing the PL tone audio
to be a bit hotter than the rest of the transmitters when i adjust it for
1000 Hz @ 3 KHZ deviation. Its perfectly usable but you can notice the
growl of the PL at times due to the level not being within where it needs
to. So that's the whole story and why I am going this route. If this works
they way i think its going to, I will post the results and the schematic,
parts list and gerber files for the board.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

> On 7/11/17 4:12 PM, Joe Moskalski wrote:
> > I will be separating the voice audio and PL audio using active filters
> so that
> > I can inject the PL tone and Transmit audio to separate points on the
> > transmitter so that the Transmit audio and PL tone level can be adjusted
> > independently at each transmitter in the simulcast system. Unfortunately
> this
> > transmitter adds preemphasis to the transmit audio and this cannot be
> changed
> > in the transmitter.
>
> You certainly understand it then, and sound like it's under control.  Lots
> of
> simulcast questions don't quite have the same level of detail
> understanding.
>
> Easiest way is to change the code or do an external filter.  Since you're
> building a board anyways, an external filter would probably be the easy
> way to
> do it.
>
> I'd (and I'm sure others) be interested in the details of your system when
> you
> get it working.
>
> 73's
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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From lorentedford at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 04:45:59 2017
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 23:45:59 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <077f01d2fa3f$efcd52a0$cf67f7e0$@gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <CAOhDOk3mmOZGafuZtS04fAVHhp7-7=5eVwkPZma8n4mrRmaGGw@mail.gmail.com>
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Jeremy is mostly correct.. I will fully correct here..

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What was said..

Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.



Back to work?


What should have been said..

Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
site, as she confirmed on list a couple days ago.



Back to work?


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now.. At the time of purchase we had no knowledge that Crompton's site was
hamvoip.com.. We purchased voipham.com about 8 weeks before releasing it to
the public.. The purpose was to chat about everything voice over ip
related.. We would love to create a forwarding link to Crompton's site
however after release of the site I was told that i was degrading the
product.. As listed below.. After the release to the public we did visit
hamvoip.com to see if it was anything close to our site and it was not at
the time.. We also noted that improper forwarding techniques were applied
and it just seemed like a forward to Cromptons main domain.. Like a third
party provider link..


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1OnQtMWFhtcV2Z4NDBrY3J6RkE/view?usp=sharing


Now moving forward.. I have no issue with Crompton or his images but after
reading his emails I wish to stay clear of his versions of allstar.. Like I
said i created voipham.com for one purpose and that was to help support
other ham operators in the hobby and create a forum base where others can
search and find maybe what they are looking for.. Also the idea was maybe
to post videos and if allstarlink wanted a backup repo for allstarlink as a
just in case event since I host multiple sites for many projects across the
board..



Now you all know that I am a YL operator just trying to help out other hams
and mean no harm.. However I will continue hosting my site regardless of
the threatening emails i get regarding my site.. Also I would like to ask
again if their is some thing i can help with.


Thanks again!




Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Phone:618-553-0806
Fax: 1-618-551-2755
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://www.kc9zhv.com
http://forum.kc9zhv.com
http://hub.kc9zhv.com
http://Ltcraft.net <http://ltcraft.net/>
http://voipham.com

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
> site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>
>
>
> Back to work?
>
>
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
>
>
> *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
> *On Behalf Of *ARS W5OMR
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:34 AM
> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
>
>
>
> voipham.com is Cromptons site, sorry to say...
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2017 18:56, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images)
> is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and
> was unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
> available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think that?s
> Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>
>
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
>
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From jim.pilgram at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 07:13:51 2017
From: jim.pilgram at gmail.com (James R. Pilgram)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 00:13:51 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
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From g7ltt at g7ltt.com  Wed Jul 12 15:51:02 2017
From: g7ltt at g7ltt.com (Mark Phillips)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:51:02 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <a76ba8bb-72ed-6482-b604-7fc5ceec271f@va3uv.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
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 <a76ba8bb-72ed-6482-b604-7fc5ceec271f@va3uv.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ue=O60Gju28EsB0FbTEGPbqA==YXipcwC8eOBnWqPFpDq9JQ@mail.gmail.com>

This thread has been useful for some other projects I have going at the
moment. I think the "proper" way to do this is to power the Pi from a 12V
source and a buck converter. There are any number of 12V pwrgate doo-dads
that you could make to handle the UPS side. I found this on Thingiverse
that is not only a Pi case but also has a buck convertor too ....
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2286741

I think this is the way I'm going to go for my node rebuild. I'm going to
do this Pi setup and one of these
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/usb-rim-lite.html for a spare
Motorola SM50 down at the farm. It'll be solar powered with a WiFi
connection back to the office. The whole lot will be mounted on some 3/4
plywood on the barn wall. I'm building one of those 18650 Tesla type
battery packs to store the power. Should get about a week of run time just
on the batteries.

Hello, Ramesh. Sorry I've been out of touch lately. I moved to Delaware 2
years ago after the wife threw me out. Been busy getting divorced and all
that goes with that. Good news is that I have sole custody of my kids now
and that things are starting to level out.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Ramesh Dhami <Ramesh at va3uv.com> wrote:

> On 2017-07-10 1:03 PM, Carl wrote:
>
>> I have not used the buck converter linked below, but I have tried using a
>> different buck converter to go from 12V to 5V for the Pi, and found it
>> introduced an excessive amount of noise into the Pi (which carried over
>> into the radio audio). Something to check as you develop your power scheme.
>> Carl
>>
>> <-- Hi Carl:  Absolutely, I have some of those converters from "CPT" and
> just as you describe, I found them to induce noise into the Pi / fob, which
> then get into the audio stream.  Not good!
>
> My original plan was to use the Battery Bank (dual USB output) to power
> both the Pi and my Baofeng BF888s... but, in doing so, I get a humm on the
> TX audio out of the Baofeng.  When I move the Baofeng's over to a separate
> wallwart / USB charger, the noise goes away.
>
> To Mark's question (Gee, where did you crawl out from? ;) keeping the Pi
> up during a power blip, etc., eliminates the need for someone to go to site
> to recycle power to the Pi.  Everything else, losing power, isn't such a
> big issue... just trying to keep the Pi somewhat immune to power blips.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ramesh.
>
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From jerutley at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 16:38:08 2017
From: jerutley at gmail.com (Jeremy Utley)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:38:08 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <CAK=eTyhMvzwpmWDrNFja6Wc5J8grszne4R9yk88zu3Yh3PNK6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <CAOhDOk3mmOZGafuZtS04fAVHhp7-7=5eVwkPZma8n4mrRmaGGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <077f01d2fa3f$efcd52a0$cf67f7e0$@gmail.com>
 <CAK=eTyhMvzwpmWDrNFja6Wc5J8grszne4R9yk88zu3Yh3PNK6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOMfyjbh4tBVDcN68az9_R_s9Auz4C=8qWqBX92zX71NKTEp3A@mail.gmail.com>

I apologize, Loren!  Hope I did not offend too badly!

Jeremy

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jeremy is mostly correct.. I will fully correct here..
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> What was said..
>
> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
> site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>
>
>
> Back to work?
>
>
> What should have been said..
>
> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
> site, as she confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>
>
>
> Back to work?
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Now.. At the time of purchase we had no knowledge that Crompton's site was
> hamvoip.com.. We purchased voipham.com about 8 weeks before releasing it to
> the public.. The purpose was to chat about everything voice over ip
> related.. We would love to create a forwarding link to Crompton's site
> however after release of the site I was told that i was degrading the
> product.. As listed below.. After the release to the public we did visit
> hamvoip.com to see if it was anything close to our site and it was not at
> the time.. We also noted that improper forwarding techniques were applied
> and it just seemed like a forward to Cromptons main domain.. Like a third
> party provider link..
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1OnQtMWFhtcV2Z4NDBrY3J6RkE/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> Now moving forward.. I have no issue with Crompton or his images but after
> reading his emails I wish to stay clear of his versions of allstar.. Like I
> said i created voipham.com for one purpose and that was to help support
> other ham operators in the hobby and create a forum base where others can
> search and find maybe what they are looking for.. Also the idea was maybe to
> post videos and if allstarlink wanted a backup repo for allstarlink as a
> just in case event since I host multiple sites for many projects across the
> board..
>
>
>
> Now you all know that I am a YL operator just trying to help out other hams
> and mean no harm.. However I will continue hosting my site regardless of the
> threatening emails i get regarding my site.. Also I would like to ask again
> if their is some thing i can help with.
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
> Phone:618-553-0806
> Fax: 1-618-551-2755
> Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
> Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
> http://www.lorentedford.com
> http://www.kc9zhv.com
> http://forum.kc9zhv.com
> http://hub.kc9zhv.com
> http://Ltcraft.net
> http://voipham.com
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
>> site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> Back to work?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremy, NQ0M
>>
>>
>>
>> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
>> On Behalf Of ARS W5OMR
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:34 AM
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
>>
>>
>>
>> voipham.com is Cromptons site, sorry to say...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2017 18:56, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images)
>> is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and was
>> unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
>> available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think that?s
>> Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremy, NQ0M
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
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From lorentedford at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 16:53:11 2017
From: lorentedford at gmail.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:53:11 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
In-Reply-To: <CAOMfyjbh4tBVDcN68az9_R_s9Auz4C=8qWqBX92zX71NKTEp3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
 <CAOhDOk3mmOZGafuZtS04fAVHhp7-7=5eVwkPZma8n4mrRmaGGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <077f01d2fa3f$efcd52a0$cf67f7e0$@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAK=eTyhdOd0EgLqRbqSQ8qu9PhyNSHWqHrFa890tWUG14CR3ag@mail.gmail.com>

Jeremy I'm very sorry I kind of snapped yesterday really bad day overall
lots of doctors appointments and family issues going on. However I really
wanted to clear up the other website Crompton's site to make sure everyone
knows that I am not affiliated with it.. Please forgive me if I sound a
little harsh last night because that was not the intent if it's just the
correct. Hopefully after your last night's post I won't hear any more about
threatening letters or things of that nature and maybe some of my phone
calls will stop that I get.

Thanks again and I'm very sorry if I came across a little harsh.

Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Phone:
Fax:
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://kc9zhv.com

Sent from Droid Turbo from Verizon wireless network


On Jul 12, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:

I apologize, Loren!  Hope I did not offend too badly!

Jeremy

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Jeremy is mostly correct.. I will fully correct here..
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------
>
> What was said..
>
> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
> site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>
>
>
> Back to work?
>
>
> What should have been said..
>
> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
> site, as she confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>
>
>
> Back to work?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Now.. At the time of purchase we had no knowledge that Crompton's site was
> hamvoip.com.. We purchased voipham.com about 8 weeks before releasing it
to
> the public.. The purpose was to chat about everything voice over ip
> related.. We would love to create a forwarding link to Crompton's site
> however after release of the site I was told that i was degrading the
> product.. As listed below.. After the release to the public we did visit
> hamvoip.com to see if it was anything close to our site and it was not at
> the time.. We also noted that improper forwarding techniques were applied
> and it just seemed like a forward to Cromptons main domain.. Like a third
> party provider link..
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1OnQtMWFhtcV2Z4NDBrY3J6RkE/
view?usp=sharing
>
>
> Now moving forward.. I have no issue with Crompton or his images but after
> reading his emails I wish to stay clear of his versions of allstar.. Like
I
> said i created voipham.com for one purpose and that was to help support
> other ham operators in the hobby and create a forum base where others can
> search and find maybe what they are looking for.. Also the idea was maybe
to
> post videos and if allstarlink wanted a backup repo for allstarlink as a
> just in case event since I host multiple sites for many projects across
the
> board..
>
>
>
> Now you all know that I am a YL operator just trying to help out other
hams
> and mean no harm.. However I will continue hosting my site regardless of
the
> threatening emails i get regarding my site.. Also I would like to ask
again
> if their is some thing i can help with.
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
> Phone:618-553-0806
> Fax: 1-618-551-2755
> Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
> Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
> http://www.lorentedford.com
> http://www.kc9zhv.com
> http://forum.kc9zhv.com
> http://hub.kc9zhv.com
> http://Ltcraft.net
> http://voipham.com
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
>> site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> Back to work?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremy, NQ0M
>>
>>
>>
>> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
>> On Behalf Of ARS W5OMR
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:34 AM
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
>>
>>
>>
>> voipham.com is Cromptons site, sorry to say...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2017 18:56, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images)
>> is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and
was
>> unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
>> available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think that?s
>> Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremy, NQ0M
>>
>>
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From kizzy at lusfiber.net  Wed Jul 12 17:28:49 2017
From: kizzy at lusfiber.net (Steve Mahler)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:28:49 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar
Message-ID: <6799ddd1-da8f-4fbc-30e5-c26ed0dad0e3@lusfiber.net>

I would like to announce "Gamma Testing" of AutoSkyWarn (ASW). ASW is 
designed to couple SkyWarn Operations with AllStar Servers / Nodes. ASW 
is a program / shell script (developed to run on the AllStar DIAL 
distribution for PCs) allowing an AllStar Server and Node to 
automatically report and announce forty nine (49) National Weather 
Service (NWS) Warnings, Watches, Advisories and Special Weather 
Statements as they occur.


You can access the Overview and ReadMe1st first documents at


http://kizzy03.wixsite.com/kf5vh/auto-skywarn


and also on that site you can hear 3 sounds clips of messages produced 
by ASW.


This release is for someone that has worked with UNIX/Linux systems as 
superuser. There are notes, but no step by step installation guide. 
(There is an effort to integrate ASW into the DIAL upgraded system.) The 
software requires Festival and SOX to operate. Alpha and Beta testing 
have been successful.


I will be releasing copies of ASW (as a tarball) by email until there is 
a fully documented installation guide. So after reviewing the Overview 
and ReadMe1st if you are still interested in becoming a Gamma Test site 
for AutoSkyWarn please send me an email at

KF5VH at louisiana.edu

and please include:
- your location
- a URL pointer to your repeater/group website if you have one

- if you are willing to make notes about your install process

- and when you have it running, send comments about operation
- any other interesting information


The tarball should be ready by next week.


...STeve - KF5VH


There are only 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand 
binary, and those who don't.
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Wed Jul 12 17:46:38 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:46:38 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar
In-Reply-To: <6799ddd1-da8f-4fbc-30e5-c26ed0dad0e3@lusfiber.net>
References: <6799ddd1-da8f-4fbc-30e5-c26ed0dad0e3@lusfiber.net>
Message-ID: <7bf7cdc7-65bf-2aa8-2f72-eaf19047bdc1@msgstor.com>

I would like to add that working with Steve has been a pleasure. If a 
bug was reported, it was fixed. ( If Steve did not find it already) We 
do get quite a few storms in FL, not to mention visits from people named 
Andrew etc. In my testing ASW did a fine job of reporting. ASW will make 
a fine addition to the list of add on programs available for 
AllStarLink. As testing runs and issues are found, we move closer to a 
more complete solution for Amateur Radio repeaters and simplex nodes.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 7/12/2017 1:28 PM, Steve Mahler wrote:
>
> I would like to announce "Gamma Testing" of AutoSkyWarn (ASW). ASW is 
> designed to couple SkyWarn Operations with AllStar Servers / Nodes. 
> ASW is a program / shell script (developed to run on the AllStar DIAL 
> distribution for PCs) allowing an AllStar Server and Node to 
> automatically report and announce forty nine (49) National Weather 
> Service (NWS) Warnings, Watches, Advisories and Special Weather 
> Statements as they occur.
>
>
> You can access the Overview and ReadMe1st first documents at
>
>
> http://kizzy03.wixsite.com/kf5vh/auto-skywarn
>
>
> and also on that site you can hear 3 sounds clips of messages produced 
> by ASW.
>
>
> This release is for someone that has worked with UNIX/Linux systems as 
> superuser. There are notes, but no step by step installation guide. 
> (There is an effort to integrate ASW into the DIAL upgraded system.) 
> The software requires Festival and SOX to operate. Alpha and Beta 
> testing have been successful.
>
>
> I will be releasing copies of ASW (as a tarball) by email until there 
> is a fully documented installation guide. So after reviewing the 
> Overview and ReadMe1st if you are still interested in becoming a Gamma 
> Test site for AutoSkyWarn please send me an email at
>
> KF5VH at louisiana.edu
>
> and please include:
> - your location
> - a URL pointer to your repeater/group website if you have one
>
> - if you are willing to make notes about your install process
>
> - and when you have it running, send comments about operation
> - any other interesting information
>
>
> The tarball should be ready by next week.
>
>
> ...STeve - KF5VH
>
>
> There are only 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand 
> binary, and those who don't.
>
>
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From nessenj at jimsoffice.org  Wed Jul 12 17:51:46 2017
From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (Jim Nessen)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:51:46 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar
In-Reply-To: <7bf7cdc7-65bf-2aa8-2f72-eaf19047bdc1@msgstor.com>
References: <6799ddd1-da8f-4fbc-30e5-c26ed0dad0e3@lusfiber.net>
 <7bf7cdc7-65bf-2aa8-2f72-eaf19047bdc1@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <E2843054-7609-4C20-8801-9B1AAC2E6F87@jimsoffice.org>

I was reading the documentation for this, seems very interesting.  Too bad we don?t get too much WX related events here in central California!..

On a side note, is there a list somewhere of all addons that are available for allstarlink nodes?

Jim, K6JWN

From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> on behalf of Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
Organization: MSGStor
Reply-To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:46 AM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar

I would like to add that working with Steve has been a pleasure. If a bug was reported, it was fixed. ( If Steve did not find it already) We do get quite a few storms in FL, not to mention visits from people named Andrew etc. In my testing ASW did a fine job of reporting. ASW will make a fine addition to the list of add on programs available for AllStarLink. As testing runs and issues are found, we move closer to a more complete solution for Amateur Radio repeaters and simplex nodes.

73, Steve N4IRS
On 7/12/2017 1:28 PM, Steve Mahler wrote:

I would like to announce "Gamma Testing" of AutoSkyWarn (ASW). ASW is designed to couple SkyWarn Operations with AllStar Servers / Nodes. ASW is a program / shell script (developed to run on the AllStar DIAL distribution for PCs) allowing an AllStar Server and Node to automatically report and announce forty nine (49) National Weather Service (NWS) Warnings, Watches, Advisories and Special Weather Statements as they occur.



You can access the Overview and ReadMe1st first documents at



http://kizzy03.wixsite.com/kf5vh/auto-skywarn



and also on that site you can hear 3 sounds clips of messages produced by ASW.



This release is for someone that has worked with UNIX/Linux systems as superuser. There are notes, but no step by step installation guide. (There is an effort to integrate ASW into the DIAL upgraded system.) The software requires Festival and SOX to operate. Alpha and Beta testing have been successful.



I will be releasing copies of ASW (as a tarball) by email until there is a fully documented installation guide. So after reviewing the Overview and ReadMe1st if you are still interested in becoming a Gamma Test site for AutoSkyWarn please send me an email at

   KF5VH at louisiana.edu<mailto:KF5VH at louisiana.edu>

and please include:
- your location
- a URL pointer to your repeater/group website if you have one

- if you are willing to make notes about your install process

- and when you have it running, send comments about operation
- any other interesting information



The tarball should be ready by next week.



...STeve - KF5VH

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.




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From szingman at msgstor.com  Wed Jul 12 17:56:49 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:56:49 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar
In-Reply-To: <E2843054-7609-4C20-8801-9B1AAC2E6F87@jimsoffice.org>
References: <6799ddd1-da8f-4fbc-30e5-c26ed0dad0e3@lusfiber.net>
 <7bf7cdc7-65bf-2aa8-2f72-eaf19047bdc1@msgstor.com>
 <E2843054-7609-4C20-8801-9B1AAC2E6F87@jimsoffice.org>
Message-ID: <7eeaac28-dc9f-9253-d125-a1fded3e73b3@msgstor.com>

Working on the list. Stand by. ;)

On 7/12/2017 1:51 PM, Jim Nessen wrote:
>
> I was reading the documentation for this, seems very interesting.  Too 
> bad we don?t get too much WX related events here in central California!..
>
> On a side note, is there a list somewhere of all addons that are 
> available for allstarlink nodes?
>
> Jim, K6JWN
>
> *From: *App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> on 
> behalf of Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
> *Organization: *MSGStor
> *Reply-To: *Users of Asterisk app_rpt 
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:46 AM
> *To: *Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar
>
> I would like to add that working with Steve has been a pleasure. If a 
> bug was reported, it was fixed. ( If Steve did not find it already) We 
> do get quite a few storms in FL, not to mention visits from people 
> named Andrew etc. In my testing ASW did a fine job of reporting. ASW 
> will make a fine addition to the list of add on programs available for 
> AllStarLink. As testing runs and issues are found, we move closer to a 
> more complete solution for Amateur Radio repeaters and simplex nodes.
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
> On 7/12/2017 1:28 PM, Steve Mahler wrote:
>
>     I would like to announce "Gamma Testing" of AutoSkyWarn (ASW). ASW
>     is designed to couple SkyWarn Operations with AllStar Servers /
>     Nodes. ASW is a program / shell script (developed to run on the
>     AllStar DIAL distribution for PCs) allowing an AllStar Server and
>     Node to automatically report and announce forty nine (49) National
>     Weather Service (NWS) Warnings, Watches, Advisories and Special
>     Weather Statements as they occur.
>
>     You can access the Overview and ReadMe1st first documents at
>
>     http://kizzy03.wixsite.com/kf5vh/auto-skywarn
>
>     and also on that site you can hear 3 sounds clips of messages
>     produced by ASW.
>
>     This release is for someone that has worked with UNIX/Linux
>     systems as superuser. There are notes, but no step by step
>     installation guide. (There is an effort to integrate ASW into the
>     DIAL upgraded system.) The software requires Festival and SOX to
>     operate. Alpha and Beta testing have been successful.
>
>     I will be releasing copies of ASW (as a tarball) by email until
>     there is a fully documented installation guide. So after reviewing
>     the Overview and ReadMe1st if you are still interested in becoming
>     a Gamma Test site for AutoSkyWarn please send me an email at
>
>     KF5VH at louisiana.edu <mailto:KF5VH at louisiana.edu>
>
>     and please include:
>     - your location
>     - a URL pointer to your repeater/group website if you have one
>
>     - if you are willing to make notes about your install process
>
>     - and when you have it running, send comments about operation
>     - any other interesting information
>
>     The tarball should be ready by next week.
>
>     ...STeve - KF5VH
>
>     There are only 10 kinds of people in the world, those who
>     understand binary, and those who don't.
>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>
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From k8it at cac.net  Wed Jul 12 18:38:07 2017
From: k8it at cac.net (Neil k8it)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:38:07 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar
In-Reply-To: <7bf7cdc7-65bf-2aa8-2f72-eaf19047bdc1@msgstor.com>
References: <6799ddd1-da8f-4fbc-30e5-c26ed0dad0e3@lusfiber.net>
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thanks to both steve's for bringing auto sky warn to dial


Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479


From: Steve Zingman 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:46 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar


I would like to add that working with Steve has been a pleasure. If a bug was reported, it was fixed. ( If Steve did not find it already) We do get quite a few storms in FL, not to mention visits from people named Andrew etc. In my testing ASW did a fine job of reporting. ASW will make a fine addition to the list of add on programs available for AllStarLink. As testing runs and issues are found, we move closer to a more complete solution for Amateur Radio repeaters and simplex nodes.

73, Steve N4IRS


On 7/12/2017 1:28 PM, Steve Mahler wrote:

  I would like to announce "Gamma Testing" of AutoSkyWarn (ASW). ASW is designed to couple SkyWarn Operations with AllStar Servers / Nodes. ASW is a program / shell script (developed to run on the AllStar DIAL distribution for PCs) allowing an AllStar Server and Node to automatically report and announce forty nine (49) National Weather Service (NWS) Warnings, Watches, Advisories and Special Weather Statements as they occur.




  You can access the Overview and ReadMe1st first documents at




  http://kizzy03.wixsite.com/kf5vh/auto-skywarn




  and also on that site you can hear 3 sounds clips of messages produced by ASW.




  This release is for someone that has worked with UNIX/Linux systems as superuser. There are notes, but no step by step installation guide. (There is an effort to integrate ASW into the DIAL upgraded system.) The software requires Festival and SOX to operate. Alpha and Beta testing have been successful.




  I will be releasing copies of ASW (as a tarball) by email until there is a fully documented installation guide. So after reviewing the Overview and ReadMe1st if you are still interested in becoming a Gamma Test site for AutoSkyWarn please send me an email at

     KF5VH at louisiana.edu

  and please include:
  - your location
  - a URL pointer to your repeater/group website if you have one

  - if you are willing to make notes about your install process

  - and when you have it running, send comments about operation
  - any other interesting information




  The tarball should be ready by next week.




  ...STeve - KF5VH



  There are only 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.

   

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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 02:30:15 2017
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:30:15 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio pre- & de-emphasis
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References: <8D46BAB7-78CF-4D90-92D8-7AF35600CCA5@gmail.com>
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In my estimation it's best to let the radio do the filtering whenever
possible. It's not that app_rpt does anything bad, it does a perfectly find
job. I just think the filtering and limiting in the radio will work and
sound as intended by the manufacture. Of course there are always exceptions
and extenuating circumstances... ymmv.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Kevin Custer <kuggie at kuggie.com> wrote:

> Sounds like you're de-emphasizing the RX audio and not pre-emphasizing the
> TA audio, but should be.
>
> The exact set-up is determined by the radio and what it wants/needs.  What
> radio are you using and how do you have it connected?  What radio adapter
> are you using?
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> On 7/11/2017 1:42 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:
>
>> When I first setup a RPi with DIAL on our repeater, it sounded tinny, and
>> I made a change in configuration in usbradio that de-emphasized the audio.
>> It was too much, loosing too many of the higher frequency components that
>> make for clarity of audio. I'm looking for information on what settings
>> (e.g. dsp, and the rx and tx settings, =flat, =speaker, etc) that have a
>> pre- or de-emphasis effects in app_rpt. A general discussion would be
>> useful as well. I can address this in hardware, but wanted to explore the
>> software approach first.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From petem001 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 02:38:50 2017
From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 02:38:50 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
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References: <045b01d2f845$ca17e080$5e47a180$@gmail.com>
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Dont let the other guy bully you.. If he wanted the name he just had to
reserved it.. If he want it that bad, let him know your price ;-) nothing
lower then 7 figure and starting by a 9, think this would be about right
;-)

Le mer. 12 juil. 2017 ? 12:53, Loren Tedford <lorentedford at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Jeremy I'm very sorry I kind of snapped yesterday really bad day overall
> lots of doctors appointments and family issues going on. However I really
> wanted to clear up the other website Crompton's site to make sure everyone
> knows that I am not affiliated with it.. Please forgive me if I sound a
> little harsh last night because that was not the intent if it's just the
> correct. Hopefully after your last night's post I won't hear any more about
> threatening letters or things of that nature and maybe some of my phone
> calls will stop that I get.
>
> Thanks again and I'm very sorry if I came across a little harsh.
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
> Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
> Phone:
> Fax:
> http://www.lorentedford.com
> http://kc9zhv.com
>
> Sent from Droid Turbo from Verizon wireless network
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I apologize, Loren!  Hope I did not offend too badly!
>
> Jeremy
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Jeremy is mostly correct.. I will fully correct here..
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > What was said..
> >
> > Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
> > site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > Back to work?
> >
> >
> > What should have been said..
> >
> > Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
> > site, as she confirmed on list a couple days ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > Back to work?
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Now.. At the time of purchase we had no knowledge that Crompton's site
> was
> > hamvoip.com.. We purchased voipham.com about 8 weeks before releasing
> it to
> > the public.. The purpose was to chat about everything voice over ip
> > related.. We would love to create a forwarding link to Crompton's site
> > however after release of the site I was told that i was degrading the
> > product.. As listed below.. After the release to the public we did visit
> > hamvoip.com to see if it was anything close to our site and it was not
> at
> > the time.. We also noted that improper forwarding techniques were applied
> > and it just seemed like a forward to Cromptons main domain.. Like a third
> > party provider link..
> >
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1OnQtMWFhtcV2Z4NDBrY3J6RkE/view?usp=sharing
> >
> >
> > Now moving forward.. I have no issue with Crompton or his images but
> after
> > reading his emails I wish to stay clear of his versions of allstar..
> Like I
> > said i created voipham.com for one purpose and that was to help support
> > other ham operators in the hobby and create a forum base where others can
> > search and find maybe what they are looking for.. Also the idea was
> maybe to
> > post videos and if allstarlink wanted a backup repo for allstarlink as a
> > just in case event since I host multiple sites for many projects across
> the
> > board..
> >
> >
> >
> > Now you all know that I am a YL operator just trying to help out other
> hams
> > and mean no harm.. However I will continue hosting my site regardless of
> the
> > threatening emails i get regarding my site.. Also I would like to ask
> again
> > if their is some thing i can help with.
> >
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
> > Phone:618-553-0806
> > Fax: 1-618-551-2755
> > Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
> > Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
> > http://www.lorentedford.com
> > http://www.kc9zhv.com
> > http://forum.kc9zhv.com
> > http://hub.kc9zhv.com
> > http://Ltcraft.net
> > http://voipham.com
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.  voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
> >> site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Back to work?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeremy, NQ0M
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org
> ]
> >> On Behalf Of ARS W5OMR
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:34 AM
> >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> voipham.com is Cromptons site, sorry to say...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 8, 2017 18:56, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial
> images)
> >> is offline?  I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night,
> and was
> >> unsuccessful.  Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
> >> available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think
> that?s
> >> Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeremy, NQ0M
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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From petem001 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 02:43:54 2017
From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 02:43:54 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar
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References: <6799ddd1-da8f-4fbc-30e5-c26ed0dad0e3@lusfiber.net>
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Sorry to ask, but that kind of stuff is pretty interresting, we do have
some kind of weather system in Canada. And this would came Handy, do you
think it would be possible to adapt to our system. They are pretty close to
the USA one.



Le mer. 12 juil. 2017 ? 14:38, Neil k8it <k8it at cac.net> a ?crit :

> thanks to both steve's for bringing auto sky warn to dial
>
>
> Thanks
> 73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
> Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
> Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
> IRLP Node exp0068
> Echolink K8IT-L
> WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479
>
> *From:* Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:46 PM
> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Add SkyWarn Function to AllStar
> I would like to add that working with Steve has been a pleasure. If a bug
> was reported, it was fixed. ( If Steve did not find it already) We do get
> quite a few storms in FL, not to mention visits from people named Andrew
> etc. In my testing ASW did a fine job of reporting. ASW will make a fine
> addition to the list of add on programs available for AllStarLink. As
> testing runs and issues are found, we move closer to a more complete
> solution for Amateur Radio repeaters and simplex nodes.
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
> On 7/12/2017 1:28 PM, Steve Mahler wrote:
>
> I would like to announce "Gamma Testing" of AutoSkyWarn (ASW). ASW is
> designed to couple SkyWarn Operations with AllStar Servers / Nodes. ASW is
> a program / shell script (developed to run on the AllStar DIAL distribution
> for PCs) allowing an AllStar Server and Node to automatically report and
> announce forty nine (49) National Weather Service (NWS) Warnings, Watches,
> Advisories and Special Weather Statements as they occur.
>
>
> You can access the Overview and ReadMe1st first documents at
>
>
> http://kizzy03.wixsite.com/kf5vh/auto-skywarn
>
>
> and also on that site you can hear 3 sounds clips of messages produced by
> ASW.
>
>
> This release is for someone that has worked with UNIX/Linux systems as
> superuser. There are notes, but no step by step installation guide. (There
> is an effort to integrate ASW into the DIAL upgraded system.) The software
> requires Festival and SOX to operate. Alpha and Beta testing have been
> successful.
>
>
> I will be releasing copies of ASW (as a tarball) by email until there is a
> fully documented installation guide. So after reviewing the Overview and
> ReadMe1st if you are still interested in becoming a Gamma Test site for
> AutoSkyWarn please send me an email at
>
>    KF5VH at louisiana.edu
>
> and please include:
> - your location
> - a URL pointer to your repeater/group website if you have one
>
> - if you are willing to make notes about your install process
>
> - and when you have it running, send comments about operation
> - any other interesting information
>
>
> The tarball should be ready by next week.
>
>
> ...STeve - KF5VH
>
> There are only 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand
> binary, and those who don't.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.orghttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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>
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 02:59:18 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:59:18 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio pre- & de-emphasis
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Good feedback, thanks much

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:30 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> In my estimation it's best to let the radio do the filtering whenever possible. It's not that app_rpt does anything bad, it does a perfectly find job. I just think the filtering and limiting in the radio will work and sound as intended by the manufacture. Of course there are always exceptions and extenuating circumstances... ymmv.   
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Kevin Custer <kuggie at kuggie.com> wrote:
>> Sounds like you're de-emphasizing the RX audio and not pre-emphasizing the TA audio, but should be.
>> 
>> The exact set-up is determined by the radio and what it wants/needs.  What radio are you using and how do you have it connected?  What radio adapter are you using?
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/11/2017 1:42 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:
>>> When I first setup a RPi with DIAL on our repeater, it sounded tinny, and I made a change in configuration in usbradio that de-emphasized the audio. It was too much, loosing too many of the higher frequency components that make for clarity of audio. I'm looking for information on what settings (e.g. dsp, and the rx and tx settings, =flat, =speaker, etc) that have a pre- or de-emphasis effects in app_rpt. A general discussion would be useful as well. I can address this in hardware, but wanted to explore the software approach first.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> 
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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 03:02:23 2017
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 21:02:23 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
Message-ID: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm, maybe if Doug just released what he claims to hate about IRLP ....

http://kd0whb.duckdns.org/doug_crompton.wav

As far as the last time I requested when I could grab the source code a few
weeks ago, I was only responded with " I don't have a time-line on the
release".

Source
http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/wa3dsp
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From kuggie at kuggie.com  Thu Jul 13 02:43:34 2017
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:43:34 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio pre- & de-emphasis
In-Reply-To: <CAG3ht9v3+7X30EmTR0yJ2119NmNRfKEJhHbMCe7vAzoA0JjmjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8D46BAB7-78CF-4D90-92D8-7AF35600CCA5@gmail.com>
 <c4b172fd-b5bf-a77e-7658-dc1c42b5c977@kuggie.com>
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On 7/12/2017 10:30 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> In my estimation it's best to let the radio do the filtering whenever 
> possible. It's not that app_rpt does anything bad, it does a perfectly 
> find job. I just think the filtering and limiting in the radio will 
> work and sound as intended by the manufacture. Of course there are 
> always exceptions and extenuating circumstances... ymmv.

Here's my take.   If you have radios [repeaters] (even ones of different 
manufacture) that exhibit a frequency response equal or greater than the 
bandwidth of the software, and let app_rpt do the signal processing, 
then everything will sound identical. Personally, I could care less how 
a manufacturer intends on how their repeaters should sound.  I want 
everything to sound the same. Allowing the application to do that very 
thing makes a multiple repeater / multiple repeater manufacturer system 
sound alike when channel hopping.

Disclaimer...   I use a version of this application that has the 
availability of wider then stock audio bandwidth for the local path.

Kevin



From shawpbx at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 03:46:08 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:46:08 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Why do you want IRLP?



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmm, maybe if Doug just released what he claims to hate about IRLP ....
>
> http://kd0whb.duckdns.org/doug_crompton.wav
>
> As far as the last time I requested when I could grab the source code a
> few weeks ago, I was only responded with " I don't have a time-line on
> the release".
>
> Source
> http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/wa3dsp
> Time: 36:30
>
>
>
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From jerutley at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 04:17:20 2017
From: jerutley at gmail.com (Jeremy Utley)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 23:17:20 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOMfyjZLrX1tq3_fcm6bubUKneYZwOTzYXOWRWpMEe4jVuNvyQ@mail.gmail.com>

What Skyler is saying is that in that audio clip, Crompton is saying
the problem with IRLP is that it's one guy controlling it, without
being open source.  It's rather hypocritical of him to say that, when
you consider his *distribution* is not open-source either.  I'm
enjoying being back on the "real" AllStar softare (RAT_RC1) for my
private node - and hoping to be able to convert my repeater back over
to DIAL as well!

Jeremy, NQ0M

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:46 PM, David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
> Why do you want IRLP?
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, maybe if Doug just released what he claims to hate about IRLP ....
>>
>> http://kd0whb.duckdns.org/doug_crompton.wav
>>
>> As far as the last time I requested when I could grab the source code a
>> few weeks ago, I was only responded with " I don't have a time-line on the
>> release".
>>
>> Source
>> http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/wa3dsp
>> Time: 36:30
>>
>>
>>
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From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Thu Jul 13 11:41:33 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:41:33 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <CAOMfyjZLrX1tq3_fcm6bubUKneYZwOTzYXOWRWpMEe4jVuNvyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOMfyjZLrX1tq3_fcm6bubUKneYZwOTzYXOWRWpMEe4jVuNvyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1499946093.3042.70.camel@Project23D.com>

Alright!

This conversation has gone on long enough, and most of the comments I
have read, are being stated by folks who have yet to bother to check the
facts.

I have yet to ascertain what the point of this thread is, throwing crap
at someone, blaming others for what *you* are doing.

IRLP is run by Dave Cameron, who, several years ago, has stated under no
circumstance will his beloved IRLP be interconnected with Allstarlink.
Why this is, is beyond my caring, if you want to know the truth, then
ask Dave your self and not speculate.

Crompton's version of Allstarlink software is based on Asterisk, which
is open source. If you don't like what he is doing, then build your own!

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ



On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 23:17 -0500, Jeremy Utley wrote:
> What Skyler is saying is that in that audio clip, Crompton is saying
> the problem with IRLP is that it's one guy controlling it, without
> being open source.  It's rather hypocritical of him to say that, when
> you consider his *distribution* is not open-source either.  I'm
> enjoying being back on the "real" AllStar softare (RAT_RC1) for my
> private node - and hoping to be able to convert my repeater back over
> to DIAL as well!
> 
> Jeremy, NQ0M
> 
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:46 PM, David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why do you want IRLP?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks, David
> >
> > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> > confidence than an armed one."
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmm, maybe if Doug just released what he claims to hate about IRLP ....
> >>
> >> http://kd0whb.duckdns.org/doug_crompton.wav
> >>
> >> As far as the last time I requested when I could grab the source code a
> >> few weeks ago, I was only responded with " I don't have a time-line on the
> >> release".
> >>
> >> Source
> >> http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/wa3dsp
> >> Time: 36:30
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> App_rpt-users mailing list
> >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Thu Jul 13 12:04:49 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:04:49 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Battery Bank that supports 'Pass Through
 Charging' and acts as a UPS for Allstar Nodes running on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <CA+ue=O60Gju28EsB0FbTEGPbqA==YXipcwC8eOBnWqPFpDq9JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3fa2047d-0510-68e8-0374-6f697a52c729@va3uv.com>
 <2bcc823c-f6d7-83d4-750a-ab81d5ca7a5f@repeater-builder.com>
 <004e01d2f99e$66231590$326940b0$@n7kuw.com>
 <a76ba8bb-72ed-6482-b604-7fc5ceec271f@va3uv.com>
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Message-ID: <05f58d38-dd66-0ba2-90cc-b52dbcb9d26a@va3uv.com>

On 2017-07-12 11:51 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> This thread has been useful for some other projects I have going at 
> the moment. I think the "proper" way to do this is to power the Pi 
> from a 12V source and a buck converter. There are any number of 12V 
> pwrgate doo-dads that you could make to handle the UPS side. I found 
> this on Thingiverse that is not only a Pi case but also has a buck 
> convertor too .... https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2286741

<-- Hi Mark: Yeh using a battery and a 'buck converter' is definitely an 
option.  As I mentioned to Carl the 'CPT' branded converters that I 
have, are "noisy" they inject audio back into the audio path of the fob, 
so the audio into the network as well as audio out on your transmitter 
has an annoying high pitch whine.

In my case, since I intend to install this stuff thousands of miles 
away, I don't want a battery down there, left unattended.  A quick 
search on Amazon, revealed one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Kaito-KA-723-Portable-Pass-Through-Compatible/dp/B07171VXHP/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1499741035&sr=1-1&keywords=usb+battery+pack+with+pass+through+charging

It supports 'pass through charging' - but does not mention anything 
about seamless switch-over from AC power to battery power.  Of course, 
some surgery and an electrolytic cap across the output may help during 
short 'brown-outs'

Good to hear from you... catch me on 27919 sometime!

Cheers,

Ramesh.


From jerutley at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 12:34:42 2017
From: jerutley at gmail.com (Jeremy Utley)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:42 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <1499946093.3042.70.camel@Project23D.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <00b601d2fbd4$67bd8d80$3738a880$@gmail.com>



-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Naber
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:42 AM
To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP

>>> Crompton's version of Allstarlink software is based on Asterisk, which is open source. If you don't like what he is doing, then build your own!

That is actually the point.  Doug refuses to release the source code for the version of Asterisk/Apt_Rpt that he is releasing as binary, in violation of the GPL license.  And anyone who points that out to him gets attacked.

Doug's image was probably great when there was no image for the Pi, but now that there is that image,  rather than fracture the community, he should be helping to make the official pi image better.  It's his right not to do so, but all that does is fracture the community around AllStarLink.

Jeremy



From willem at prinmath.com  Thu Jul 13 13:00:59 2017
From: willem at prinmath.com (Willem Schreuder)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:00:59 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <00b601d2fbd4$67bd8d80$3738a880$@gmail.com>
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Jeremy Utley wrote:

> It's his right not to do so...

Absolutely not.  We all benefit from the work Mark Spencer and many others 
did in creating Asterisk.  Those folks released Asterisk under the GPL, 
which obligates EVERYBODY who uses Asterisk as a base to build something 
else to in turn release the source code.

If you refuse to release your source code, you may NOT use Asterisk.  If 
you don't want to release your code, go write your own Asterisk.

================================================================
Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
Address:  445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,  Lakewood, CO  80228, USA
Tel: (303) 716-3573   Fax: (303) 716-3575
WWW: www.prinmath.com   Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com


From n2ygk at weca.org  Thu Jul 13 13:12:58 2017
From: n2ygk at weca.org (Alan Crosswell)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:12:58 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.20.1707130650310.15195@raid3.prinmath.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOMfyjZLrX1tq3_fcm6bubUKneYZwOTzYXOWRWpMEe4jVuNvyQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <1499946093.3042.70.camel@Project23D.com>
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 <alpine.LRH.2.20.1707130650310.15195@raid3.prinmath.com>
Message-ID: <CAA5py3gOvFfDqvayhWtkUZraspTohhV1c3U0MtzfgbKc_4Jhww@mail.gmail.com>

Unless he executed a commercial license:
https://www.digium.com/products/asterisk/licensing

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Willem Schreuder <willem at prinmath.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Jeremy Utley wrote:
>
> It's his right not to do so...
>>
>
> Absolutely not.  We all benefit from the work Mark Spencer and many others
> did in creating Asterisk.  Those folks released Asterisk under the GPL,
> which obligates EVERYBODY who uses Asterisk as a base to build something
> else to in turn release the source code.
>
> If you refuse to release your source code, you may NOT use Asterisk.  If
> you don't want to release your code, go write your own Asterisk.
>
> ================================================================
> Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
> Address:  445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,  Lakewood, CO  80228, USA
> Tel: (303) 716-3573   Fax: (303) 716-3575
> WWW: www.prinmath.com   Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com
>
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From petem001 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 13:27:27 2017
From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:27:27 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <CAA5py3gOvFfDqvayhWtkUZraspTohhV1c3U0MtzfgbKc_4Jhww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOMfyjZLrX1tq3_fcm6bubUKneYZwOTzYXOWRWpMEe4jVuNvyQ@mail.gmail.com>
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interresting.

Le jeu. 13 juil. 2017 ? 09:13, Alan Crosswell <n2ygk at weca.org> a ?crit :

> Unless he executed a commercial license:
> https://www.digium.com/products/asterisk/licensing
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Willem Schreuder <willem at prinmath.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Jeremy Utley wrote:
>>
>> It's his right not to do so...
>>>
>>
>> Absolutely not.  We all benefit from the work Mark Spencer and many
>> others did in creating Asterisk.  Those folks released Asterisk under the
>> GPL, which obligates EVERYBODY who uses Asterisk as a base to build
>> something else to in turn release the source code.
>>
>> If you refuse to release your source code, you may NOT use Asterisk.  If
>> you don't want to release your code, go write your own Asterisk.
>>
>> ================================================================
>> Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
>> Address:  445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,  Lakewood, CO  80228, USA
>> Tel: (303) 716-3573   Fax: (303) 716-3575
>> WWW: www.prinmath.com   Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com
>>
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From willem at prinmath.com  Thu Jul 13 13:38:11 2017
From: willem at prinmath.com (Willem Schreuder)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:38:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <CAA5py3gOvFfDqvayhWtkUZraspTohhV1c3U0MtzfgbKc_4Jhww@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Alan Crosswell wrote:

> Unless he executed a commercial license:
> https://www.digium.com/products/asterisk/licensing

Agreed - if he bought a commercial license from digium AND he implemented 
apt_rpt in such a way that he used nobody else's GPL'ed code, then he 
would not be bound by the GPL and would not have to release the source 
code.

Is that the case?

================================================================
Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
Address:  445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,  Lakewood, CO  80228, USA
Tel: (303) 716-3573   Fax: (303) 716-3575
WWW: www.prinmath.com   Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com


From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Thu Jul 13 13:47:03 2017
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:47:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
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If you really want to pursue this...then the original holder of the 
intellectual property rights to Asterisk and issuer of the GPL (Digium) 
should be contacted and your concerns made known regarding release of 
the source code, which is required when executables are released.  I am 
assuming that the rights to the app-rpt module are, like the core, 
GPL'd, but held by the inheritor of Jim's IP.  Now, they can re-write 
from scratch the repeater module, but if they are basing it on the 
non-commercial Open Source version of Asterisk, then Digium's 
restrictions and requirements should be respected.

That's what Digium has counsel for.  It's not up to us, per se, to 
manage, but the holder of the intellectual property rights to the 
software.  We can flail around and stamp our feet, but, in reality have 
no standing to force the issue--Digium does--which is why complaints to 
the other party get blown off.  So, if it is THAT important, the owner 
of the rights (and it's not us, not the other party) should be consulted 
as to how THEY will enforce their intellectual property right.

Just a thought.  I'm not an intellectual property (or other) lawyer, nor 
do I play one on TV.  But, I  stayed in a Holiday Inn once.

BB



On 7/13/2017 9:27 AM, Pierre Martel wrote:
> interresting.
>
> Le jeu. 13 juil. 2017 ? 09:13, Alan Crosswell <n2ygk at weca.org 
> <mailto:n2ygk at weca.org>> a ?crit :
>
>     Unless he executed a commercial license:
>     https://www.digium.com/products/asterisk/licensing
>
>     On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Willem Schreuder
>     <willem at prinmath.com <mailto:willem at prinmath.com>> wrote:
>
>         On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Jeremy Utley wrote:
>
>             It's his right not to do so...
>
>
>         Absolutely not.  We all benefit from the work Mark Spencer and
>         many others did in creating Asterisk. Those folks released
>         Asterisk under the GPL, which obligates EVERYBODY who uses
>         Asterisk as a base to build something else to in turn release
>         the source code.
>
>         If you refuse to release your source code, you may NOT use
>         Asterisk.  If you don't want to release your code, go write
>         your own Asterisk.
>

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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 15:44:38 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:44:38 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <588F2A18-834D-4A1F-845C-839253C5C625@gmail.com>

I use a local IRLP repeater to link up with folks who don't have Allstar (gasp! :-)

One of the many reasons I like DIAL is the option to setup my own node(s). IRLP requires their access to your node to set it up and register, a process I have experienced first hand, and don't like ( not exactly the spirit of amateur radio I've come to enjoy and respect. To all the true Elmers out there,  thanks much for all you do.

Another reason I like DIAL is the fact I understand the Linux platform better than others. It is a lot like CentOS, which I first learned. One of the difficulties I've had with other "types" of Linux is the customized and undocumented features that make my experience awkward, to say the least. There is also the fact the system established and setup by "The Duuuude" and team is still the basis for the seamless operation of Allstar, regardless of what version of app_rpt used. I am pleased to see that original team spirit continues to be alive and well in the Allstarlink community, for which I continue to be thankful.

In Doug's defense, this is a hobby, and like many volunteer based Linux applications, finished documentation is usually the last thing to get done. I have learned a lot from him, but then again, I'm still very much in a learning mode from all of you, even from many of the questions, which get to me to thinking beyond my own little problems :-)

Thanks,
Bob
k6ecm
73

Sent from iPad


> On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:46 PM, David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Why do you want IRLP?
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Thanks, David
> 
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hmm, maybe if Doug just released what he claims to hate about IRLP ....
>> 
>> http://kd0whb.duckdns.org/doug_crompton.wav
>> 
>> As far as the last time I requested when I could grab the source code a few weeks ago, I was only responded with " I don't have a time-line on the release".
>> 
>> Source
>> http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/wa3dsp
>> Time: 36:30
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 18:39:36 2017
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:39:36 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <588F2A18-834D-4A1F-845C-839253C5C625@gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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This is the reason why I started to really want the source to Dougs image:

1. I wanted to apply a couple small customizations to App_rpt.c
2. I wanted a better simpleusb driver for the raspberry pi without the
delay. usbradio does not work well as of now on a pi, and simpleusb
receiver delay is not constant changes each transmission.

The current DIAL distro does not fix the simpleusb or usbradio problems in
the raspberry pi because they don't want to have to duplicate Doug's work.
(Yes, you have to be picky like me about audio and timing to tell on some
of it)

Doug's image does not release the source code, so I can't complete my
customizations.

Skyler


On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use a local IRLP repeater to link up with folks who don't have Allstar
> (gasp! :-)
>
> One of the many reasons I like DIAL is the option to setup my own node(s).
> IRLP requires their access to your node to set it up and register, a
> process I have experienced first hand, and don't like ( not exactly the
> spirit of amateur radio I've come to enjoy and respect. To all the true
> Elmers out there,  thanks much for all you do.
>
> Another reason I like DIAL is the fact I understand the Linux platform
> better than others. It is a lot like CentOS, which I first learned. One of
> the difficulties I've had with other "types" of Linux is the customized and
> undocumented features that make my experience awkward, to say the least.
> There is also the fact the system established and setup by "The Duuuude"
> and team is still the basis for the seamless operation of Allstar,
> regardless of what version of app_rpt used. I am pleased to see that
> original team spirit continues to be alive and well in the Allstarlink
> community, for which I continue to be thankful.
>
> In Doug's defense, this is a hobby, and like many volunteer based Linux
> applications, finished documentation is usually the last thing to get done.
> I have learned a lot from him, but then again, I'm still very much in a
> learning mode from all of you, even from many of the questions, which get
> to me to thinking beyond my own little problems :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
> k6ecm
> 73
>
> Sent from iPad
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:46 PM, David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why do you want IRLP?
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, maybe if Doug just released what he claims to hate about IRLP ....
>>
>> http://kd0whb.duckdns.org/doug_crompton.wav
>>
>> As far as the last time I requested when I could grab the source code a
>> few weeks ago, I was only responded with " I don't have a time-line on
>> the release".
>>
>> Source
>> http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/wa3dsp
>> Time: 36:30
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
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>> gi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Thu Jul 13 21:25:14 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:25:14 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
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References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2017-07-13 2:39 PM, Skyler F wrote:
> This is the reason why I started to really want the source to Dougs 
> image:
>
> 1. I wanted to apply a couple small customizations to App_rpt.c
> 2. I wanted a better simpleusb driver for the raspberry pi without the 
> delay. usbradio does not work well as of now on a pi, and simpleusb 
> receiver delay is not constant changes each transmission.
>
> The current DIAL distro does not fix the simpleusb or usbradio 
> problems in the raspberry pi because they don't want to have to 
> duplicate Doug's work. (Yes, you have to be picky like me about audio 
> and timing to tell on some of it)
>
>
<-- You're not alone Skyler.  Hang tight, I am optimistic that there 
will be something coming to allow you to use usbradio (with demph / 
squelched RX audio) as an alternative to simpleusb (and thus eliminate 
the audio delay), very soon!

I've been doing quite a bit of testing between simpleusb and usbradio on 
DIAL..... and I (personally) find that usbradio sounds better and has 
more dynamic range (with TX audio) than simpleusb. Some folks will say 
the opposite... "beauty is in the eye [or ear] of the beholder" ;).

Remembering our dear friend, Jim Dixon, WB6NIL,

Cheers,

Ramesh.


From jerutley at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 21:34:16 2017
From: jerutley at gmail.com (Jeremy Utley)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:34:16 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.20.1707130650310.15195@raid3.prinmath.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOMfyjZLrX1tq3_fcm6bubUKneYZwOTzYXOWRWpMEe4jVuNvyQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Just to clarify what I meant by saying "it's his right to do so" -

I meant to say it's his right to not contribute to the main development (creating a fork), not that it's his right to close the source to asterisk/apt_rpt.

Just to make sure that is clear!  I hate what Doug's doing myself, which is why I'm switching myself back to RAT-RC1.

Jeremy, NQ0M

-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Willem Schreuder
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:01 AM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Jeremy Utley wrote:

> It's his right not to do so...

Absolutely not.  We all benefit from the work Mark Spencer and many others did in creating Asterisk.  Those folks released Asterisk under the GPL, which obligates EVERYBODY who uses Asterisk as a base to build something else to in turn release the source code.

If you refuse to release your source code, you may NOT use Asterisk.  If you don't want to release your code, go write your own Asterisk.

================================================================
Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
Address:  445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,  Lakewood, CO  80228, USA
Tel: (303) 716-3573   Fax: (303) 716-3575
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From donegan at donegan.org  Thu Jul 13 21:37:17 2017
From: donegan at donegan.org (Steven Donegan)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:37:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <013501d2fc1f$c7c41d70$574c5850$@gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH4RvbKO7H_af-uyn2ntwLB8SsMKbG_p9=k-FuK8igQMMS0oeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOMfyjZLrX1tq3_fcm6bubUKneYZwOTzYXOWRWpMEe4jVuNvyQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <1499946093.3042.70.camel@Project23D.com>
 <00b601d2fbd4$67bd8d80$3738a880$@gmail.com>
 <alpine.LRH.2.20.1707130650310.15195@raid3.prinmath.com>
 <013501d2fc1f$c7c41d70$574c5850$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <118813724.5043762.1499981837378@mail.yahoo.com>

The simplest way to deal with this is to vote with your feet :-) IE don't use his stuff. Letting the Asterisk owners know that he is withholding source is also a good option - their code let them fuss with it...
?Steven Donegan
KK6IVC General Class FCC License
FAA PP-ASEL Pilots License
Silver State Car #86
www.sscc.us

      From: Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com>
 To: 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
   
Just to clarify what I meant by saying "it's his right to do so" -

I meant to say it's his right to not contribute to the main development (creating a fork), not that it's his right to close the source to asterisk/apt_rpt.

Just to make sure that is clear!? I hate what Doug's doing myself, which is why I'm switching myself back to RAT-RC1.

Jeremy, NQ0M

-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Willem Schreuder
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:01 AM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Jeremy Utley wrote:

> It's his right not to do so...

Absolutely not.? We all benefit from the work Mark Spencer and many others did in creating Asterisk.? Those folks released Asterisk under the GPL, which obligates EVERYBODY who uses Asterisk as a base to build something else to in turn release the source code.

If you refuse to release your source code, you may NOT use Asterisk.? If you don't want to release your code, go write your own Asterisk.

================================================================
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Address:? 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,? Lakewood, CO? 80228, USA
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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Fri Jul 14 03:09:42 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:09:42 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
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Has anyone asked DMK Engineering who is the keeper of the code is?

David



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Steven Donegan <donegan at donegan.org> wrote:

> The simplest way to deal with this is to vote with your feet :-) IE don't
> use his stuff. Letting the Asterisk owners know that he is withholding
> source is also a good option - their code let them fuss with it...
>
> Steven Donegan
> KK6IVC General Class FCC License
> FAA PP-ASEL Pilots License
> Silver State Car #86
> www.sscc.us
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com>
> *To:* 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:34 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
>
> Just to clarify what I meant by saying "it's his right to do so" -
>
> I meant to say it's his right to not contribute to the main development
> (creating a fork), not that it's his right to close the source to
> asterisk/apt_rpt.
>
> Just to make sure that is clear!  I hate what Doug's doing myself, which
> is why I'm switching myself back to RAT-RC1.
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
> On Behalf Of Willem Schreuder
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:01 AM
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
>
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Jeremy Utley wrote:
>
> > It's his right not to do so...
>
> Absolutely not.  We all benefit from the work Mark Spencer and many others
> did in creating Asterisk.  Those folks released Asterisk under the GPL,
> which obligates EVERYBODY who uses Asterisk as a base to build something
> else to in turn release the source code.
>
> If you refuse to release your source code, you may NOT use Asterisk.  If
> you don't want to release your code, go write your own Asterisk.
>
> ================================================================
> Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
> Address:  445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,  Lakewood, CO  80228, USA
> Tel: (303) 716-3573  Fax: (303) 716-3575
> WWW: www.prinmath.com  Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Jul 14 13:29:48 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 09:29:48 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <588F2A18-834D-4A1F-845C-839253C5C625@gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
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OK,
  So this "discussion" has go on for about a week. Face it, other then 
venting, and somewhat preaching to the choir, nothing has been 
accomplished.  Other then AllStarLink  (ASL) abiding by the license for 
Asterisk, we have no standing. It's up to Asterisk to enforce it's 
license. I am as much a advocate of open source and HAM radio as 
anybody, but it's time to end this. Do I disagree with David's and 
Doug's (HAMVIOP) decision to not open the source to their version of 
Asterisk? YES. Is there anything we can do about it? NO. David says he 
that he is following Jim's wishes. What I have been told by David is 
that Jim told him if he did not like what Jim was doing, fork it. So he 
did. That's just fine with us. We moved the source code from SVN to GIT 
to allow ANYONE to submit changes to the code. David submitted one bug 
fix directly to me and I included it in the repository.

  Mike N4IRR is the team leader for development. Yes, he is my brother. 
We have been building FM voice repeaters for the last 48 years. We work 
well together (most of the time) and we know how to compliment each 
others talents. Mike has been a professional "software guy" for the last 
37 years. The other team members for the most part asked to be part of 
the team. They each bring a wealth of knowledge inside and outside of 
ASL. They stepped up and are willing to work with others in the best 
interest of ASL and HAM radio. All of the team members have to work well 
within the team and with the other teams where they intersect. Saying 
that you want to help is one thing, actually doing something is another. 
We do not just add people to teams. We look to attitude, skill and 
actually doing something for ASL. The organization has been built to 
survive the loss of any one or more people. We are no longer a one man 
band.

  I  have been told that HAMVIOP thinks that the management of ASL is 
partisan. I think that is really directed at me. Am I an advocate for 
ASL? Yes. Do I try to run ASL in the best interests of the HAM 
community? Yes. I have opened the management teams to anyone that has 
said they have a interest and a skill to volunteer. HAMVIOP has told me 
in the past they don't think much of my  capabilities. I have said in 
the past that I don't think much of their attitude towards anyone else 
working on ASL. I'll call that even.

  To conclude, ASL is open source and will always be so. If others want 
to not publish their changes, that is not our concern. Leave that to 
Asterisk. What we can do as a community is to support the open source 
efforts and the hardware vendors that provide the equipment we need to 
make ASL the finest HAM repeater / linking software available.

  I will not censor users on the list until I think someone has 
repeatedly crossed the line. Please end this. I now return you to your 
regularly scheduled mail list.

73, Steve N4IRS


From kuggie at kuggie.com  Fri Jul 14 14:35:30 2017
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:35:30 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
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On 7/14/2017 9:29 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:
> OK,
>  So this "discussion" has go on for about a week.



The following comments are mine - and not of AllStarLink Inc.

I see that the HamVoip distribution 1.5 has telemetry ducking.  This 
feature set was designed by me and implemented by a friend into a 
different distribution.  I paid to have this done, and understood that 
it would be made available to the public by the terms of Open Source.

If HamVoip doesn't make their entire source code available, I will be 
informing Digium of this violation.  While Digium no longer supports the 
app_rpt application, they certainly do the Asterisk Project.  If the 
HamVoip folks haven't signed an agreement, then shame on them.  Just 
because Digium is no longer supporting this application doesn't mean 
they don't still own it.  It's still under Digium's control, and using 
any part of Asterisk obligates them to follow the terms of Open Source:
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/License+Information

If HamVoip had their own commercial license, they would be making people 
sign an agreement for its use.  I'm not aware of any such requirement.

If Digium doesn't enforce the terms of Open Source, I'll be heading up a 
team (outside AllStarLink Inc.) that will.  This is wrong - plain and 
simple.  It goes against everything that Jim Dixon, Steve RoDgers, and 
Steve Henke (among others) have done.  I don't use HamVoip for several 
reasons.  Some of these reasons are personal, just like this situation 
that begs questioning as to why they wont release it.  Are they hiding 
something?  Are they planning to use it for-profit?

They certainly are willing to take credit for code they didn't write, 
and that's not right....

All releases of Asterisk and app_rpt have (or should have) included in 
the header of the code the licensing requirements.  I'm not just making 
this up, go have a look at the (real) source code for yourself.  Those 
of you wanting them to release it, keep bugging them.  If they continue 
to deny the requests, let me know - duuuude!

Kevin Custer - W3KKC


From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 15:28:36 2017
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (ars.w5omr at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:28:36 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
Message-ID: <596a0c54.c534ca0a.fdc7b.6190@mx.google.com>

Thanks. I stand corrected.
I will support Loren's site and efforts.

On Jul 12, 2017 9:38 PM, Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dont let the other guy bully you.. If he wanted the name he just had to reserved it.. If he want it that bad, let him know your price ;-) nothing lower then 7 figure and starting by a 9, think this would be about right ;-)?
>
> Le mer. 12 juil. 2017 ? 12:53, Loren Tedford <lorentedford at gmail.com> a ?crit?:
>>
>> Jeremy I'm very sorry I kind of snapped yesterday really bad day overall lots of doctors appointments and family issues going on. However I really wanted to clear up the other website Crompton's site to make sure everyone knows that I am not affiliated with it.. Please forgive me if I sound a little harsh last night because that was not the intent if it's just the correct. Hopefully after your last night's post I won't hear any more about threatening letters or things of that nature and maybe some of my phone calls will stop that I get.
>>
>> Thanks again and I'm very sorry if I came across a little harsh.
>>
>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)?
>> Email:?lorentedford at gmail.com
>> Phone:?
>> Fax:
>> http://www.lorentedford.com
>> http://kc9zhv.com
>>
>> Sent from Droid Turbo from Verizon wireless network
>>
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I apologize, Loren!? Hope I did not offend too badly!
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Jeremy is mostly correct.. I will fully correct here..
>>> >
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > What was said..
>>> >
>>> > Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.? voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
>>> > site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Back to work?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > What should have been said..
>>> >
>>> > Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.? voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
>>> > site, as she confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Back to work?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Now.. At the time of purchase we had no knowledge that Crompton's site was
>>> > hamvoip.com.. We purchased voipham.com about 8 weeks before releasing it to
>>> > the public.. The purpose was to chat about everything voice over ip
>>> > related.. We would love to create a forwarding link to Crompton's site
>>> > however after release of the site I was told that i was degrading the
>>> > product.. As listed below.. After the release to the public we did visit
>>> > hamvoip.com to see if it was anything close to our site and it was not at
>>> > the time.. We also noted that improper forwarding techniques were applied
>>> > and it just seemed like a forward to Cromptons main domain.. Like a third
>>> > party provider link..
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1OnQtMWFhtcV2Z4NDBrY3J6RkE/view?usp=sharing
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Now moving forward.. I have no issue with Crompton or his images but after
>>> > reading his emails I wish to stay clear of his versions of allstar.. Like I
>>> > said i created voipham.com for one purpose and that was to help support
>>> > other ham operators in the hobby and create a forum base where others can
>>> > search and find maybe what they are looking for.. Also the idea was maybe to
>>> > post videos and if allstarlink wanted a backup repo for allstarlink as a
>>> > just in case event since I host multiple sites for many projects across the
>>> > board..
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Now you all know that I am a YL operator just trying to help out other hams
>>> > and mean no harm.. However I will continue hosting my site regardless of the
>>> > threatening emails i get regarding my site.. Also I would like to ask again
>>> > if their is some thing i can help with.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks again!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>>> > Phone:618-553-0806
>>> > Fax: 1-618-551-2755
>>> > Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
>>> > Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
>>> > http://www.lorentedford.com
>>> > http://www.kc9zhv.com
>>> > http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>>> > http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>>> > http://Ltcraft.net
>>> > http://voipham.com
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Nope, Crompton?s site is ?hamvoip.com?.? voipham.com is Loren Tedford?s
>>> >> site, as he confirmed on list a couple days ago.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Back to work?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Jeremy, NQ0M
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
>>> >> On Behalf Of ARS W5OMR
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:34 AM
>>> >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org) offline
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> voipham.com is Cromptons site, sorry to say...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jul 8, 2017 18:56, "Jeremy Utley" <jerutley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone know why dvswitch.org (the official download site for Dial images)
>>> >> is offline?? I was trying to download RAT_RC1 from there last night, and was
>>> >> unsuccessful.? Thanks to some Google searching, I found a copy of it
>>> >> available from Loren Tedford?s site voipham.com (at least I think that?s
>>> >> Loren?s site), so I could get my Pi node reinstalled.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Jeremy, NQ0M
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
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From ve7fet at tparc.org  Sun Jul 16 18:00:55 2017
From: ve7fet at tparc.org (Lee Woldanski)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:00:55 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
In-Reply-To: <CAG3ht9tF_E3WjBWc3TBKMPS0UGZWA=XwFvNunxmc0iXj2RQfiQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG3ht9sO+kPJ7H_k5PxDTn_r0ZqXFWB210oJ-m65g3uGVwpaJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <881C5DA5-D3E7-45A8-858F-289A29CC81F7@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CACaEaZni5EVN5kYTjgtNnBvDzrFuaFmyJFmDYbOnPRTXZqGEOg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tim,

I dug in to the source to help figure this out... someone should put this
in a wiki somewhere...

The VOTER/RTCM when in TSIP mode (Trimble), assumes it is a Trimble
Thunderbolt and is looking for two packets:

0x8F-AB - Primary Timing Packet
0x8F-AC - Supplemental Timing Packet

Grab a copy of the Thunderbolt User Guide:
http://leapsecond.com/pages/tbolt/Thunderbolt-2012-02.pdf

Pages 78-83 are the important ones.

Packet 0x8F-AB is what grabs the timing information, and packet 0x8F-AC is
what it looks at for everything else (including debug).

The debug string that the VOTER/RTCM reports:

printf("GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok %d, 9 - 14: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x\n",
happy,gps_buf[9],gps_buf[10],gps_buf[11],gps_buf[12],gps_buf[13],gps_buf[14]);

So, the 1 after ok is the "happy.gps" flag. The other 5 bytes are supposed
to be bytes 9-14 from the packet... sort of. They are bytes 9-14 of the
buffer, but they are actually bytes 8-13 of the message.

Looking at the message structure, bytes 8-13 are:

8-9 Critical Alarms
10-11 Minor Alarms
12 GPS Decoding Status
13 Disciplining Activity

Therefore, the messages you are seeing break down as follows:

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00 - everything is good in
the 'hood, Doing Fixes, Phase Locking

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06 - not happy, Not Tracking
Satellites, Not Disciplining Oscillator (0x18 --> 0b000000011000), No
Usable Sats, Inactive

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05 - not happy, Not Tracking
Satellites, No Useable Sats, Compensating OXCO (holdover)

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05 - not happy, Compensating
OXCO (holdover)

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08 - happy, Recovery Mode

GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04 - not happy, Initializing
Loop Filter


Why you are losing lock... can't help you there. Perhaps you have an
antenna going bad, wet feedline, LNA in the antenna not receiving voltage,
sky obstruction, or interference.


Cheers!


Lee


On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is a pattern to the debug out put which looks like below. Sure would
> like to decode this:
>
> It's happy when there are all zeros. Then it does 18 08 06
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06
> 07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
> 07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>
> Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS signal acquired
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> 07/10/2017 20:36:03.100  Time now syncronized to GPS
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> 07/10/2017 20:36:03.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
> Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
> 07/10/2017 20:36:52.200  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
> 07/10/2017 20:36:52.220  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> GPS signal acquired
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 07/10/2017 20:36:56.220  Time now syncronized to GPS
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 07/10/2017 20:36:56.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
> Now it will have all zeros until the next loss, which could be minutes or
> hours.
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've had problems with the VHF transmitter antennas being too close to
>> the GPS antenna and RF swamping it. If you go to site and use the Trimble
>> software to see satellite signal data then key the transmitter, mine would
>> show a loss of almost all the satellites.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jesse
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are loosing lock of
>> late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode 40 is shown below. I read that
>> all zeros was good but I'm wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does
>> any know how to decode this?
>>
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>
>> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>>
>> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>
>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>> GPS signal acquired
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Tim
>>
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From: kc2irv at gmail.com (Joe Moskalski)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 14:28:28 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
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I will stick this info in my wiki if you don't mind.

On Jul 16, 2017 2:01 PM, "Lee Woldanski" <ve7fet at tparc.org> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I dug in to the source to help figure this out... someone should put this
> in a wiki somewhere...
>
> The VOTER/RTCM when in TSIP mode (Trimble), assumes it is a Trimble
> Thunderbolt and is looking for two packets:
>
> 0x8F-AB - Primary Timing Packet
> 0x8F-AC - Supplemental Timing Packet
>
> Grab a copy of the Thunderbolt User Guide: http://leapsecond.com/
> pages/tbolt/Thunderbolt-2012-02.pdf
>
> Pages 78-83 are the important ones.
>
> Packet 0x8F-AB is what grabs the timing information, and packet 0x8F-AC is
> what it looks at for everything else (including debug).
>
> The debug string that the VOTER/RTCM reports:
>
> printf("GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok %d, 9 - 14: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x\n",
> happy,gps_buf[9],gps_buf[10],gps_buf[11],gps_buf[12],gps_
> buf[13],gps_buf[14]);
>
> So, the 1 after ok is the "happy.gps" flag. The other 5 bytes are supposed
> to be bytes 9-14 from the packet... sort of. They are bytes 9-14 of the
> buffer, but they are actually bytes 8-13 of the message.
>
> Looking at the message structure, bytes 8-13 are:
>
> 8-9 Critical Alarms
> 10-11 Minor Alarms
> 12 GPS Decoding Status
> 13 Disciplining Activity
>
> Therefore, the messages you are seeing break down as follows:
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00 - everything is good in
> the 'hood, Doing Fixes, Phase Locking
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06 - not happy, Not Tracking
> Satellites, Not Disciplining Oscillator (0x18 --> 0b000000011000), No
> Usable Sats, Inactive
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05 - not happy, Not Tracking
> Satellites, No Useable Sats, Compensating OXCO (holdover)
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05 - not happy, Compensating
> OXCO (holdover)
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08 - happy, Recovery Mode
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04 - not happy, Initializing
> Loop Filter
>
>
> Why you are losing lock... can't help you there. Perhaps you have an
> antenna going bad, wet feedline, LNA in the antenna not receiving voltage,
> sky obstruction, or interference.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Lee
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a pattern to the debug out put which looks like below. Sure
>> would like to decode this:
>>
>> It's happy when there are all zeros. Then it does 18 08 06
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06
>> 07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>> 07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>>
>> Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS signal acquired
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:03.100  Time now syncronized to GPS
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:03.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>> Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:52.200  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:52.220  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS signal acquired
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:56.220  Time now syncronized to GPS
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:56.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>> Now it will have all zeros until the next loss, which could be minutes or
>> hours.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had problems with the VHF transmitter antennas being too close to
>>> the GPS antenna and RF swamping it. If you go to site and use the Trimble
>>> software to see satellite signal data then key the transmitter, mine would
>>> show a loss of almost all the satellites.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jesse
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are loosing lock of
>>> late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode 40 is shown below. I read that
>>> all zeros was good but I'm wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does
>>> any know how to decode this?
>>>
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>>
>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>>>
>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>>
>>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> GPS signal acquired
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Tim
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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From ve7fet at tparc.org  Sun Jul 16 18:48:29 2017
From: ve7fet at tparc.org (Lee Woldanski)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:48:29 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
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Go for it, in addition...

The GPS is flagged as NOT HAPPY in TSIP mode if ANY of the following are
TRUE:

If GPS Decoding Status is anything other than "Doing Fixes".

If Disciplining Activity is not Phase Locking or Recovery Mode.

Any Critical Alarms.

Any Minor Alarms.


Lee



On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will stick this info in my wiki if you don't mind.
>
> On Jul 16, 2017 2:01 PM, "Lee Woldanski" <ve7fet at tparc.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> I dug in to the source to help figure this out... someone should put this
>> in a wiki somewhere...
>>
>> The VOTER/RTCM when in TSIP mode (Trimble), assumes it is a Trimble
>> Thunderbolt and is looking for two packets:
>>
>> 0x8F-AB - Primary Timing Packet
>> 0x8F-AC - Supplemental Timing Packet
>>
>> Grab a copy of the Thunderbolt User Guide: http://leapsecond.com/p
>> ages/tbolt/Thunderbolt-2012-02.pdf
>>
>> Pages 78-83 are the important ones.
>>
>> Packet 0x8F-AB is what grabs the timing information, and packet 0x8F-AC
>> is what it looks at for everything else (including debug).
>>
>> The debug string that the VOTER/RTCM reports:
>>
>> printf("GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok %d, 9 - 14: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x\n",
>> happy,gps_buf[9],gps_buf[10],gps_buf[11],gps_buf[12],gps_buf
>> [13],gps_buf[14]);
>>
>> So, the 1 after ok is the "happy.gps" flag. The other 5 bytes are
>> supposed to be bytes 9-14 from the packet... sort of. They are bytes 9-14
>> of the buffer, but they are actually bytes 8-13 of the message.
>>
>> Looking at the message structure, bytes 8-13 are:
>>
>> 8-9 Critical Alarms
>> 10-11 Minor Alarms
>> 12 GPS Decoding Status
>> 13 Disciplining Activity
>>
>> Therefore, the messages you are seeing break down as follows:
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00 - everything is good in
>> the 'hood, Doing Fixes, Phase Locking
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06 - not happy, Not
>> Tracking Satellites, Not Disciplining Oscillator (0x18 --> 0b000000011000),
>> No Usable Sats, Inactive
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05 - not happy, Not
>> Tracking Satellites, No Useable Sats, Compensating OXCO (holdover)
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05 - not happy,
>> Compensating OXCO (holdover)
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08 - happy, Recovery Mode
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04 - not happy,
>> Initializing Loop Filter
>>
>>
>> Why you are losing lock... can't help you there. Perhaps you have an
>> antenna going bad, wet feedline, LNA in the antenna not receiving voltage,
>> sky obstruction, or interference.
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is a pattern to the debug out put which looks like below. Sure
>>> would like to decode this:
>>>
>>> It's happy when there are all zeros. Then it does 18 08 06
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06
>>> 07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>>> 07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>>>
>>> Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> GPS signal acquired
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> 07/10/2017 20:36:03.100  Time now syncronized to GPS
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> 07/10/2017 20:36:03.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>> 07/10/2017 20:36:52.200  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>>> 07/10/2017 20:36:52.220  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> GPS signal acquired
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> 07/10/2017 20:36:56.220  Time now syncronized to GPS
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> 07/10/2017 20:36:56.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> Now it will have all zeros until the next loss, which could be minutes
>>> or hours.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've had problems with the VHF transmitter antennas being too close to
>>>> the GPS antenna and RF swamping it. If you go to site and use the Trimble
>>>> software to see satellite signal data then key the transmitter, mine would
>>>> show a loss of almost all the satellites.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jesse
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are loosing lock of
>>>> late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode 40 is shown below. I read that
>>>> all zeros was good but I'm wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does
>>>> any know how to decode this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>>>
>>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>>>>
>>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>>>
>>>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>>
>>>> GPS signal acquired
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>>
>>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>>
>>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>>
>>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Sun Jul 16 19:09:46 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:09:46 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
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I'll be happy to take whatevery you guys have and put it into the wiki 
on github along with the source.
There are a number of people either working on or getting setup to work 
on the code. It would be nice to have this all in one place.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 07/16/2017 02:28 PM, Joe Moskalski wrote:
> I will stick this info in my wiki if you don't mind.
>
> On Jul 16, 2017 2:01 PM, "Lee Woldanski" <ve7fet at tparc.org 
> <mailto:ve7fet at tparc.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Tim,
>
>     I dug in to the source to help figure this out... someone should
>     put this in a wiki somewhere...
>
>     The VOTER/RTCM when in TSIP mode (Trimble), assumes it is a
>     Trimble Thunderbolt and is looking for two packets:
>
>     0x8F-AB - Primary Timing Packet
>     0x8F-AC - Supplemental Timing Packet
>
>     Grab a copy of the Thunderbolt User Guide:
>     http://leapsecond.com/pages/tbolt/Thunderbolt-2012-02.pdf
>     <http://leapsecond.com/pages/tbolt/Thunderbolt-2012-02.pdf>
>
>     Pages 78-83 are the important ones.
>
>     Packet 0x8F-AB is what grabs the timing information, and packet
>     0x8F-AC is what it looks at for everything else (including debug).
>
>     The debug string that the VOTER/RTCM reports:
>
>     printf("GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok %d, 9 - 14: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x
>     %02x\n",
>     happy,gps_buf[9],gps_buf[10],gps_buf[11],gps_buf[12],gps_buf[13],gps_buf[14]);
>
>     So, the 1 after ok is the "happy.gps" flag. The other 5 bytes are
>     supposed to be bytes 9-14 from the packet... sort of. They are
>     bytes 9-14 of the buffer, but they are actually bytes 8-13 of the
>     message.
>
>     Looking at the message structure, bytes 8-13 are:
>
>     8-9 Critical Alarms
>     10-11 Minor Alarms
>     12 GPS Decoding Status
>     13 Disciplining Activity
>
>     Therefore, the messages you are seeing break down as follows:
>
>     GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00 - everything is
>     good in the 'hood, Doing Fixes, Phase Locking
>
>     GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06 - not happy, Not
>     Tracking Satellites, Not Disciplining Oscillator (0x18 -->
>     0b000000011000), No Usable Sats, Inactive
>
>     GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05 - not happy, Not
>     Tracking Satellites, No Useable Sats, Compensating OXCO (holdover)
>
>     GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05 - not happy,
>     Compensating OXCO (holdover)
>
>     GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08 - happy, Recovery
>     Mode
>
>     GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04 - not happy,
>     Initializing Loop Filter
>
>
>     Why you are losing lock... can't help you there. Perhaps you have
>     an antenna going bad, wet feedline, LNA in the antenna not
>     receiving voltage, sky obstruction, or interference.
>
>
>     Cheers!
>
>
>     Lee
>
>
>     On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com
>     <mailto:tisawyer at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         There is a pattern to the debug out put which looks like
>         below. Sure would like to decode this:
>
>         It's happy when there are all zeros. Then it does 18 08 06
>
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06
>         07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting
>         again...
>         07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>         GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>
>         Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         GPS signal acquired
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         07/10/2017 20:36:03.100  Time now syncronized to GPS
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         07/10/2017 20:36:03.500  Host Connection established (Pri)
>         (192.168.1.6)
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>
>         Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>         07/10/2017 20:36:52.200  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting
>         again...
>         07/10/2017 20:36:52.220  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>         GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>         GPS signal acquired
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>         07/10/2017 20:36:56.220  Time now syncronized to GPS
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>         07/10/2017 20:36:56.500  Host Connection established (Pri)
>         (192.168.1.6)
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>         GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>
>         Now it will have all zeros until the next loss, which could be
>         minutes or hours.
>
>         On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com
>         <mailto:ve7lyd at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I've had problems with the VHF transmitter antennas being
>             too close to the GPS antenna and RF swamping it. If you go
>             to site and use the Trimble software to see satellite
>             signal data then key the transmitter, mine would show a
>             loss of almost all the satellites.
>
>             Cheers,
>             Jesse
>
>             On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Tim Sawyer
>             <tisawyer at gmail.com <mailto:tisawyer at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>             My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are
>>             loosing lock of late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode
>>             40 is shown below. I read that all zeros was good but I'm
>>             wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does any know
>>             how to decode this?
>>
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>
>>             07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely.
>>             Starting again...
>>
>>             07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri)
>>             (192.168.1.6)
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>
>>             GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>>             GPS signal acquired
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>>             07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>>             07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established
>>             (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>>             GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>>
>>
>>             -- 
>>             --
>>             Tim
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Sun Jul 16 19:14:58 2017
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:14:58 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Going Off Line - Trimble Loosing Lock
In-Reply-To: <CACaEaZni5EVN5kYTjgtNnBvDzrFuaFmyJFmDYbOnPRTXZqGEOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG3ht9sO+kPJ7H_k5PxDTn_r0ZqXFWB210oJ-m65g3uGVwpaJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <881C5DA5-D3E7-45A8-858F-289A29CC81F7@gmail.com>
 <CAG3ht9tF_E3WjBWc3TBKMPS0UGZWA=XwFvNunxmc0iXj2RQfiQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACaEaZni5EVN5kYTjgtNnBvDzrFuaFmyJFmDYbOnPRTXZqGEOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9sECm7w+V+mW5xrnv82+8h4HO2TbP=pm5eLB7R6Q77LYw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, Lee.

You did some digging there and spent some time at it. That's really great
of you. Much appreciated!

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Lee Woldanski <ve7fet at tparc.org> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I dug in to the source to help figure this out... someone should put this
> in a wiki somewhere...
>
> The VOTER/RTCM when in TSIP mode (Trimble), assumes it is a Trimble
> Thunderbolt and is looking for two packets:
>
> 0x8F-AB - Primary Timing Packet
> 0x8F-AC - Supplemental Timing Packet
>
> Grab a copy of the Thunderbolt User Guide: http://leapsecond.com/
> pages/tbolt/Thunderbolt-2012-02.pdf
>
> Pages 78-83 are the important ones.
>
> Packet 0x8F-AB is what grabs the timing information, and packet 0x8F-AC is
> what it looks at for everything else (including debug).
>
> The debug string that the VOTER/RTCM reports:
>
> printf("GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok %d, 9 - 14: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x\n",
> happy,gps_buf[9],gps_buf[10],gps_buf[11],gps_buf[12],gps_
> buf[13],gps_buf[14]);
>
> So, the 1 after ok is the "happy.gps" flag. The other 5 bytes are supposed
> to be bytes 9-14 from the packet... sort of. They are bytes 9-14 of the
> buffer, but they are actually bytes 8-13 of the message.
>
> Looking at the message structure, bytes 8-13 are:
>
> 8-9 Critical Alarms
> 10-11 Minor Alarms
> 12 GPS Decoding Status
> 13 Disciplining Activity
>
> Therefore, the messages you are seeing break down as follows:
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00 - everything is good in
> the 'hood, Doing Fixes, Phase Locking
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06 - not happy, Not Tracking
> Satellites, Not Disciplining Oscillator (0x18 --> 0b000000011000), No
> Usable Sats, Inactive
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05 - not happy, Not Tracking
> Satellites, No Useable Sats, Compensating OXCO (holdover)
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05 - not happy, Compensating
> OXCO (holdover)
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08 - happy, Recovery Mode
>
> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04 - not happy, Initializing
> Loop Filter
>
>
> Why you are losing lock... can't help you there. Perhaps you have an
> antenna going bad, wet feedline, LNA in the antenna not receiving voltage,
> sky obstruction, or interference.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Lee
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a pattern to the debug out put which looks like below. Sure
>> would like to decode this:
>>
>> It's happy when there are all zeros. Then it does 18 08 06
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 18 08 06
>> 07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>> 07/10/2017 20:35:42.100  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>>
>> Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 08 08 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 05
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS signal acquired
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:03.100  Time now syncronized to GPS
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:03.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>
>> Repeats, trimmed for brevity.
>>
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:52.200  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:52.220  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS signal acquired
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:56.220  Time now syncronized to GPS
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> 07/10/2017 20:36:56.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>
>> Now it will have all zeros until the next loss, which could be minutes or
>> hours.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had problems with the VHF transmitter antennas being too close to
>>> the GPS antenna and RF swamping it. If you go to site and use the Trimble
>>> software to see satellite signal data then key the transmitter, mine would
>>> show a loss of almost all the satellites.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jesse
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My RTCM, two of then actually on the same Trimble, are loosing lock of
>>> late. The output from the RTCM Debug mode 40 is shown below. I read that
>>> all zeros was good but I'm wondering 08 and 04 in the last byte mean. Does
>>> any know how to decode this?
>>>
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 08
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>>
>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  GPS signal lost entirely. Starting again...
>>>
>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:22.160  Host Connection Lost (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 0, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 04
>>>
>>> GPS Receiver Active, waiting for aquisition
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> GPS signal acquired
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.160  Time now syncronized to GPS
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> 07/10/2017 20:08:26.500  Host Connection established (Pri) (192.168.1.6)
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>> GPS-DEBUG: TSIP: ok 1, 9 - 14: 00 00 00 00 00 00
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Tim
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Tim
>>
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> --
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From n5faz at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 16 19:49:04 2017
From: n5faz at yahoo.com (Paul)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 13:49:04 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes unregistered
Message-ID: <8128416C-BB3A-43AD-BB6A-CDD18D2204BC@yahoo.com>


after a power failure my nodes are stuck in an unregistered state:

test*CLI> iax2 show registry
Host                  dnsmgr  Username    Perceived             Refresh  State
67.215.233.178:4569   N       27834       <Unregistered>             60  Request Sent
67.215.233.178:4569   N       27665       <Unregistered>             60  Request Sent
test*CLI> iax2 show registry
Host                  dnsmgr  Username    Perceived             Refresh  State
67.215.233.178:4569   N       27834       <Unregistered>             60  Timeout
67.215.233.178:4569   N       27665       <Unregistered>             60  Timeout

I checked the password and they seem to be ok.

netstat does not show any connections to the register server.

any ideas what is happening. how to fix it and how to keep this from happening again.
we had the same issue on this node and on another node previously.

it is an ACID install.

thanks
paul n5faz

From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul 16 20:45:01 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 13:45:01 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes unregistered
In-Reply-To: <8128416C-BB3A-43AD-BB6A-CDD18D2204BC@yahoo.com>
References: <8128416C-BB3A-43AD-BB6A-CDD18D2204BC@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbJo3FFYaLHe3YV06aTtgeKdBxV5dySNWRg5pdW1YfxM+w@mail.gmail.com>

Can you ping yahoo.com?

David



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inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
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On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Paul <n5faz at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> after a power failure my nodes are stuck in an unregistered state:
>
> test*CLI> iax2 show registry
> Host                  dnsmgr  Username    Perceived             Refresh
> State
> 67.215.233.178:4569   N       27834       <Unregistered>             60
> Request Sent
> 67.215.233.178:4569   N       27665       <Unregistered>             60
> Request Sent
> test*CLI> iax2 show registry
> Host                  dnsmgr  Username    Perceived             Refresh
> State
> 67.215.233.178:4569   N       27834       <Unregistered>             60
> Timeout
> 67.215.233.178:4569   N       27665       <Unregistered>             60
> Timeout
>
> I checked the password and they seem to be ok.
>
> netstat does not show any connections to the register server.
>
> any ideas what is happening. how to fix it and how to keep this from
> happening again.
> we had the same issue on this node and on another node previously.
>
> it is an ACID install.
>
> thanks
> paul n5faz
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From wile2u at gmail.com  Thu Jul 20 23:14:56 2017
From: wile2u at gmail.com (Richard larson)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:14:56 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio
Message-ID: <CABUMwzagdF8evYBd_fN6Qf0kDNqijeMTtzjF6e9UmAvHRqT24A@mail.gmail.com>

I am attempting to convert from simpleusb to usbradio and this is what i am
getting
Thanks, Rich W6ABJ


Connected to Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-12-app_rpt-0.327-07/16/2017
currently running on w6abj-allstar (pid = 1913)
Verbosity is at least 3
[Jul 20 16:11:32] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:32] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master:     --
Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
rpt_thread restarted on node 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:32] WARNING[1943]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'Radio'
[Jul 20 16:11:34] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 27837
    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:34] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master: rpt_thread
restarted on node 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:34] WARNING[1944]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'Radio'
[Jul 20 16:11:36] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 27837
    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:36] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master: rpt_thread
restarted on node 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:36] WARNING[1945]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'Radio'
[Jul 20 16:11:38] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:38] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master: rpt_thread
restarted on node 27837
    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:38] WARNING[1946]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'Radio'
[Jul 20 16:11:40] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 27837
    -- Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:40] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master: rpt_thread
restarted on node 27837
[Jul 20 16:11:40] WARNING[1947]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'Radio'
[Jul 20 16:11:42] ERROR[1921]: app_rpt.c:20531 rpt_master: Continual RPT
thread restarts, killing Asterisk
w6abj-allstar*CLI>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Thu Jul 20 23:15:55 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:15:55 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio
In-Reply-To: <CABUMwzagdF8evYBd_fN6Qf0kDNqijeMTtzjF6e9UmAvHRqT24A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABUMwzagdF8evYBd_fN6Qf0kDNqijeMTtzjF6e9UmAvHRqT24A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88599783-62b4-53ba-c378-06957b485cbc@bryanfields.net>

On 7/20/17 7:14 PM, Richard larson wrote:
> I am attempting to convert from simpleusb to usbradio and this is what i am
> getting

did you enable it in modules?

-- 
Bryan Fields

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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Thu Jul 20 23:16:03 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:16:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio
In-Reply-To: <CABUMwzagdF8evYBd_fN6Qf0kDNqijeMTtzjF6e9UmAvHRqT24A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABUMwzagdF8evYBd_fN6Qf0kDNqijeMTtzjF6e9UmAvHRqT24A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f2a5a5b7-463b-93df-3265-d0fefa0def8b@va3uv.com>

On 2017-07-20 7:14 PM, Richard larson wrote:
> I am attempting to convert from simpleusb to usbradio and this is what 
> i am getting
> Thanks, Rich W6ABJ
>
>
<-- Did you make the change in modules.conf (as we suggested a couple of 
weeks ago)?


From wile2u at gmail.com  Fri Jul 21 17:42:07 2017
From: wile2u at gmail.com (Richard larson)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:42:07 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 27
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1500652801.31893.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
References: <mailman.1.1500652801.31893.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
Message-ID: <CABUMwzZufa6MBhvO0xCrc3RkhxDCepT7c6UXwHt2sG04GjOAew@mail.gmail.com>

Yes.

Here is what is in my modules.conf file

thanks
Rich W6ABJ

[modules]
autoload=yes
noload=chan_oss.so
noload=chan_alsa.so
noload=chan_phone.so
load=chan_usbradio.so ;                      USB Console Channel Drive

noload=func_moh.so
noload=res_musiconhold.so
noload=res_speech.so
;noload=res_crypto.so
noload=res_odbc.so
noload=res_smdi.so
noload=res_config_odbc.so
noload=chan_tlb.so
noload=app_milliwatt.so
noload=app_image.so
noload=app_sendtext.so
noload=format_h264.so
noload=app_hasnewvoicemail.so
noload=app_ices.so
noload=app_lookupblacklist.so
noload=app_voicemail.so
noload=chan_usrp.so
noload=app_lookupidname.so
noload=app_zapateller.so
noload=format_jpeg.so
noload=app_parkandannounce.so
noload=app_meetme.so
noload=app_settransfercapability.so
noload=app_amd.so
noload=app_followme.so
;noload=chan_echolink.so
noload=app_transfer.so
;noload=func_callerid.so
noload=app_directed_pickup.so
;noload=chan_voter.so
noload=app_flash.so
noload=app_page.so
noload=app_gps.so
noload=pbx_dundi.so
noload=app_setcallerid.so
noload=app_dictate.so
noload=res_adsi.so
noload=app_mp3.so
noload=app_privacy.so
noload=app_disa.so
noload=app_alarmreceiver.so
noload=app_externalirv.so
noload=chan_beagle.so
noload=chan_sip.so
[global]

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> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:14:56 -0700
> From: Richard larson <wile2u at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio
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> I am attempting to convert from simpleusb to usbradio and this is what i am
> getting
> Thanks, Rich W6ABJ
>
>
> Connected to Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-12-
> app_rpt-0.327-07/16/2017
> currently running on w6abj-allstar (pid = 1913)
> Verbosity is at least 3
> [Jul 20 16:11:32] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
> restarted on 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:32] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master:     --
> Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> rpt_thread restarted on node 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:32] WARNING[1943]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
> type registered for 'Radio'
> [Jul 20 16:11:34] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
> restarted on 27837
>     -- Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:34] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master: rpt_thread
> restarted on node 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:34] WARNING[1944]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
> type registered for 'Radio'
> [Jul 20 16:11:36] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
> restarted on 27837
>     -- Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:36] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master: rpt_thread
> restarted on node 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:36] WARNING[1945]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
> type registered for 'Radio'
> [Jul 20 16:11:38] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
> restarted on 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:38] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master: rpt_thread
> restarted on node 27837
>     -- Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:38] WARNING[1946]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
> type registered for 'Radio'
> [Jul 20 16:11:40] NOTICE[1921]: app_rpt.c:20536 rpt_master: RPT thread
> restarted on 27837
>     -- Re-Loading config for repeater 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:40] WARNING[1921]: app_rpt.c:20548 rpt_master: rpt_thread
> restarted on node 27837
> [Jul 20 16:11:40] WARNING[1947]: channel.c:3037 ast_request: No channel
> type registered for 'Radio'
> [Jul 20 16:11:42] ERROR[1921]: app_rpt.c:20531 rpt_master: Continual RPT
> thread restarts, killing Asterisk
> w6abj-allstar*CLI>
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> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:15:55 -0400
> From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
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> On 7/20/17 7:14 PM, Richard larson wrote:
> > I am attempting to convert from simpleusb to usbradio and this is what i
> am
> > getting
>
> did you enable it in modules?
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> --
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:16:03 -0400
> From: Ramesh Dhami <Ramesh at va3uv.com>
> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] usbradio
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> On 2017-07-20 7:14 PM, Richard larson wrote:
> > I am attempting to convert from simpleusb to usbradio and this is what
> > i am getting
> > Thanks, Rich W6ABJ
> >
> >
> <-- Did you make the change in modules.conf (as we suggested a couple of
> weeks ago)?
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Sat Jul 22 02:11:49 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:11:49 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TH-D7 Duplex Node?
Message-ID: <5addecd4-0954-c0f1-f8d2-fe8a92f85713@va3uv.com>

Hi All:

Wonder if anyone is using a Kenwood TH-D7A (or may be an 'E') for a 
duplex node?

The 'D7 could make for a good node, since it has the ability to operate 
in full duplex (RX on Band 'A' and TX on Band 'B').  I'd like to know if 
there is a way to bypass the internal TNC, or to bring out 9600 baud 
audio (or raw discrim audio) out somehow.

I was initially using a pair of Baofeng's for a portable / full-duplex 
node... but the Baofeng's are as deaf as a potato!

Cheers!

Ramesh, VA3UV

#27919 and a truck load of others....




From n6gkj1 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 23:25:06 2017
From: n6gkj1 at gmail.com (N6GKJ Land)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 16:25:06 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM
	mailing list.
In-Reply-To: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL8dJwrdrB6=Ypph4FaWLOK4vFEAJAAP-JNmzpJDdJD6FtwU5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANr-_9qsVFuN0EUe8wu9+UeKTU+=xXm=FL5qY96_z_GRf74CWA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gentlemen,

I can say that Doug has been a great help, Steve has been a great help.

There are clearly two Allstar Camps now.

I have my Pi running Dial, I use HSMM-PI and the two systems compliment
each other nicely. Steve was very good at helping me get WiFi working the
way I need it too.

FYI, I did install Allstar Dial in my HP Laptop, it is a Duo Core 2200 mhz
unit with 3gb RAM and an SSD. I got it running without effort. I also
installed Gnome Desktop and I also installed HSMM-PI on the laptop. I now
have a multi-channel Dispatch Console on a laptop running 2 nodes, a
Selected Node and an Un-Selected Node. I have a series of remote bases
spread around. This allows me to connect to any one of many to talk too on
the Selected Node and all of many on the Un-Selected Node to monitor the
others.

I did try to do this with the Doug build but ARCH is structured just too
different and the changes were many.

Bottom line is this. I won't complain about what Doug is doing. I have a
choice and I choose to stay a little closer to the Dixon based system.

I think both are good for those who choose one over the other.

The work that goes into building a distro is an art form. It takes great
commitment and dedication to make it play.



On Jul 8, 2017 7:46 PM, "Pierre Martel" <petem001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Must be because I asked about source a bit too much.
>
> Am I the only one that was put under " control " like that?
>
> Pierre VE2PF
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From kp4tr.ramon at gmail.com  Sun Jul 23 03:13:22 2017
From: kp4tr.ramon at gmail.com ((KP4TR)Ramon Gonzalez)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:13:22 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <abad8c5c-8b8e-608d-2c66-9ddd31ad397d@gmail.com>

One of the things I love about open source code is that I can try to 
compile and build it for other platforms.

I currently run app-rpt/Asterisk on a Google Compute cloud platform as a 
hub. Previously I ran it on Amazon AWS. Both are virtualized cloud 
services. If it weren't because I have access to the source code, I 
could not build/install in those environments.

As for the HamVOIP "code", it is useless for me because I have no source 
code. I can only run it on a Raspbery Pi image they provide. Just like 
IRLP, you are locked in to a specific platform. And I like building my 
own custom images.

Back to compiling for the ASUS Tinkerboard...

73!

On 7/12/2017 11:02 PM, Skyler F wrote:
> Hmm, maybe if Doug just released what he claims to hate about IRLP ....
>
> http://kd0whb.duckdns.org/doug_crompton.wav
>
> As far as the last time I requested when I could grab the source code 
> a few weeks ago, I was only responded with "I don't have a time-line 
> on the release".
>
> Source
> http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/wa3dsp
> Time: 36:30
>
>
>
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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul 23 14:03:52 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 07:03:52 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Source Code WA3DSP
In-Reply-To: <abad8c5c-8b8e-608d-2c66-9ddd31ad397d@gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0_WLKrEionjXCpmOJ-gDJviU5MYkj9tLuVXJrPTeDFnTQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <abad8c5c-8b8e-608d-2c66-9ddd31ad397d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbLfoVcFTuw--EyJsnKAre5NkwfA6Jc4EGDMemCaKTSJeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yea the ASUS Tinkerboard. How do you like it?

David
KE6UPI



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:13 PM, (KP4TR)Ramon Gonzalez <
kp4tr.ramon at gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the things I love about open source code is that I can try to
> compile and build it for other platforms.
>
> I currently run app-rpt/Asterisk on a Google Compute cloud platform as a
> hub. Previously I ran it on Amazon AWS. Both are virtualized cloud
> services. If it weren't because I have access to the source code, I could
> not build/install in those environments.
>
> As for the HamVOIP "code", it is useless for me because I have no source
> code. I can only run it on a Raspbery Pi image they provide. Just like
> IRLP, you are locked in to a specific platform. And I like building my own
> custom images.
>
> Back to compiling for the ASUS Tinkerboard...
>
> 73!
>
>
> On 7/12/2017 11:02 PM, Skyler F wrote:
>
> Hmm, maybe if Doug just released what he claims to hate about IRLP ....
>
> http://kd0whb.duckdns.org/doug_crompton.wav
>
> As far as the last time I requested when I could grab the source code a
> few weeks ago, I was only responded with " I don't have a time-line on
> the release".
>
> Source
> http://www.qsotoday.com/podcasts/wa3dsp
> Time: 36:30
>
>
>
>
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From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Sun Jul 23 19:07:25 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 15:07:25 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TH-D7 Duplex Node?
In-Reply-To: <5addecd4-0954-c0f1-f8d2-fe8a92f85713@va3uv.com>
References: <5addecd4-0954-c0f1-f8d2-fe8a92f85713@va3uv.com>
Message-ID: <1500836845.4180.8.camel@Project23D.com>

Unless you want to perform surgery on the radio, there is not an "easy"
way to bring "raw" audio out from the radio.

A possibility is just use the connections from the speaker mic ports. I
suggest using the BAL button to turn the volume off on the band you are
going to be transmitting on.

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ


On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 22:11 -0400, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
> Hi All:
> 
> Wonder if anyone is using a Kenwood TH-D7A (or may be an 'E') for a 
> duplex node?
> 
> The 'D7 could make for a good node, since it has the ability to operate 
> in full duplex (RX on Band 'A' and TX on Band 'B').  I'd like to know if 
> there is a way to bypass the internal TNC, or to bring out 9600 baud 
> audio (or raw discrim audio) out somehow.
> 
> I was initially using a pair of Baofeng's for a portable / full-duplex 
> node... but the Baofeng's are as deaf as a potato!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Ramesh, VA3UV
> 
> #27919 and a truck load of others....
> 
> 
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Sun Jul 23 20:06:31 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 16:06:31 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TH-D7 Duplex Node?
In-Reply-To: <1500836845.4180.8.camel@Project23D.com>
References: <5addecd4-0954-c0f1-f8d2-fe8a92f85713@va3uv.com>
 <1500836845.4180.8.camel@Project23D.com>
Message-ID: <1CEA1708-6D87-45D2-8430-7D513D22F9F5@va3uv.com>

That's definitely an option Benjamin.... but how do I get COS signal?

I'm not opposed to performing micro surgery, just wondering if anyone has been there and got the T Shirt!

Having said that, I forgot to mention that the issue with the Baofengs seems to be largely with the stock antenna (or should I say the attenuator disguised as an antenna).

Testing with a signal generator seemed to indicate a 10dB loss in sensitivity when using the "antenna".

I've also since switched to duplex=0 (with linktolink = 1) to help eliminate further loss in RX sensitivity due to desense).

Cheers,

Ramesh.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Benjamin Naber <Benjamin at Project23D.com> wrote:
> 
> Unless you want to perform surgery on the radio, there is not an "easy"
> way to bring "raw" audio out from the radio.
> 
> A possibility is just use the connections from the speaker mic ports. I
> suggest using the BAL button to turn the volume off on the band you are
> going to be transmitting on.
> 
> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 22:11 -0400, Ramesh Dhami wrote:
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> Wonder if anyone is using a Kenwood TH-D7A (or may be an 'E') for a 
>> duplex node?
>> 
>> The 'D7 could make for a good node, since it has the ability to operate 
>> in full duplex (RX on Band 'A' and TX on Band 'B').  I'd like to know if 
>> there is a way to bypass the internal TNC, or to bring out 9600 baud 
>> audio (or raw discrim audio) out somehow.
>> 
>> I was initially using a pair of Baofeng's for a portable / full-duplex 
>> node... but the Baofeng's are as deaf as a potato!
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Ramesh, VA3UV
>> 
>> #27919 and a truck load of others....
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From loren at lorentedford.com  Tue Jul 25 03:11:32 2017
From: loren at lorentedford.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:11:32 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Changed Email Address!
Message-ID: <aa46e3c625019b88342c5846d00767db@lorentedford.com>

Greetings Everyone,
I enjoy emailing everyone in helping with the installation of 
allstarlink however I have recently made some changes to the way my 
email is delivered through the app_rpt user system.. If you have an 
Emergency and need to personally email me fast. Please use 
lorentedford at gmail.com Now regarding the transition to my new email 
address which is loren at lorentedford.com i will still check this but only 
3 times a day.. My gmail is now setup to directly go to my phone! I hope 
everyone understands why I changed my main email in the app_rpt system.. 
Again keep up the great work and always enjoy every email i have seen 
through the list!

Please if their is anything i can do to help let me know!

Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://www.kc9zhv.com
http://forum.kc9zhv.com
http://hub.kc9zhv.com
http://Ltcraft.net
http://voipham.com


From bob at w5evh.org  Tue Jul 25 06:04:19 2017
From: bob at w5evh.org (Bob Roszkowski)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 01:04:19 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] APRS not connecting
Message-ID: <CA+KByB7VvmSjbzfjCw_+p1-q4oeQs0fD3ZVnqfNnPLaxwipwRg@mail.gmail.com>

I've noticed on a couple of my nodes that APRS was not able to connect.
Error in CLI and messages show:

WARNING[647] app_gps.c: server second.aprs.net cannot be found!!
WARNING[648] app_gps.c: Attempt to send APRS data with no connection open!!

I've had this running for quite some time without problems and no changes
to config.  I can ping second.aprs.net (and rotate.aprs.net) and get a
reply.  Also changed config to rotate.aprs.net with no change.

Anyone else seeing this.  It errors out all day long and filling up my logs.


Sincerely,

boB - W5EVH
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From loren at lorentedford.com  Tue Jul 25 11:39:52 2017
From: loren at lorentedford.com (Loren Tedford)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:39:52 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] =?utf-8?q?APRS_not_connecting?=
In-Reply-To: <CA+KByB7VvmSjbzfjCw_+p1-q4oeQs0fD3ZVnqfNnPLaxwipwRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+KByB7VvmSjbzfjCw_+p1-q4oeQs0fD3ZVnqfNnPLaxwipwRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9fd5efe975ae701a8afb06a943d9870e@lorentedford.com>

On 2017-07-25 01:04, Bob Roszkowski wrote:
> I've noticed on a couple of my nodes that APRS was not able to
> connect.  Error in CLI and messages show:
> 
> WARNING[647] app_gps.c: server second.aprs.net [1] cannot be found!!
> WARNING[648] app_gps.c: Attempt to send APRS data with no connection
> open!!
> 
> I've had this running for quite some time without problems and no
> changes to config.  I can ping second.aprs.net [1] (and
> rotate.aprs.net [2]) and get a reply.  Also changed config to
> rotate.aprs.net [2] with no change.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this.  It errors out all day long and filling up my
> logs.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> boB - W5EVH
> 
> 
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://second.aprs.net
> [2] http://rotate.aprs.net
> 
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Greetings first thing that comes to mind is to make sure you have a 
config file located in /etc/asterisk/ the config file should be gps.conf 
now its been a long time but i think you also have to edit system.conf 
as well.. Like i said i am not the best to ask about this but here is 
two documentation link you should have a look at..

http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/14

Make sure you forward port 14580 to your node through your routers or 
firewalls.. Also if your using UFW firewall on your installation make 
sure you add 14580 to its list to allow traffic..

Pinging out one direction is one thing but if the aprs server can't 
communicate back to the server it will fail..





Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
http://www.lorentedford.com
http://www.kc9zhv.com
http://forum.kc9zhv.com
http://hub.kc9zhv.com
http://Ltcraft.net
http://voipham.com


From ldrolet at cgocable.ca  Thu Jul 27 10:34:55 2017
From: ldrolet at cgocable.ca (Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 06:34:55 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] SimpleUSB_Tune_Menu
Message-ID: <5203145A-3DEE-4B2A-9789-A5D4B89AECF0@cgocable.ca>

Hello everyone,

With an RPi, can you tell me how we can do to adjust the audio with a monitor service,

With PuTTY, I can see, "12 - Run simpleusb_tune_Menu Apllication"
And then, yes, I saw "2 RX VOICE Level Set" but I do not know how to change my value and also save it
Is there a step-by-step procedure for AllStar Link,

RX VOICE
TX VOICE

thank you very much and Have a Nice day
Luc
73

From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Thu Jul 27 11:42:24 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 07:42:24 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] SimpleUSB_Tune_Menu
In-Reply-To: <5203145A-3DEE-4B2A-9789-A5D4B89AECF0@cgocable.ca>
References: <5203145A-3DEE-4B2A-9789-A5D4B89AECF0@cgocable.ca>
Message-ID: <9687276D-B5E6-49A0-B943-5E2C0E999129@va3uv.com>

Hi Luc:

Which image are you using?

Thanks!

Ramesh.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:34 AM, Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ <ldrolet at cgocable.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> With an RPi, can you tell me how we can do to adjust the audio with a monitor service,
> 
> With PuTTY, I can see, "12 - Run simpleusb_tune_Menu Apllication"
> And then, yes, I saw "2 RX VOICE Level Set" but I do not know how to change my value and also save it
> Is there a step-by-step procedure for AllStar Link,
> 
> RX VOICE
> TX VOICE
> 
> thank you very much and Have a Nice day
> Luc
> 73
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
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From ldrolet at cgocable.ca  Thu Jul 27 11:57:41 2017
From: ldrolet at cgocable.ca (Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 07:57:41 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] SimpleUSB_Tune_Menu
In-Reply-To: <9687276D-B5E6-49A0-B943-5E2C0E999129@va3uv.com>
References: <5203145A-3DEE-4B2A-9789-A5D4B89AECF0@cgocable.ca>
 <9687276D-B5E6-49A0-B943-5E2C0E999129@va3uv.com>
Message-ID: <AEB47143-7B5A-42CD-8D28-4CB07E72ACD9@cgocable.ca>

Hello Ramesh,

Here is attached file 2 PDF
Of my pictures with PuTTY,
I choose 2) Set Rx Voice Level (using display)

Subsequently I want to adjust my audio and also recorded my configurations

Thank you
Luc

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> Le 27 juil. 2017 ? 07:42, Ramesh Dhami <Ramesh at va3uv.com> a ?crit :
> 
> Hi Luc:
> 
> Which image are you using?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Ramesh.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:34 AM, Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ <ldrolet at cgocable.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> With an RPi, can you tell me how we can do to adjust the audio with a monitor service,
>> 
>> With PuTTY, I can see, "12 - Run simpleusb_tune_Menu Apllication"
>> And then, yes, I saw "2 RX VOICE Level Set" but I do not know how to change my value and also save it
>> Is there a step-by-step procedure for AllStar Link,
>> 
>> RX VOICE
>> TX VOICE
>> 
>> thank you very much and Have a Nice day
>> Luc
>> 73
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> 
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Thu Jul 27 12:07:58 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 08:07:58 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] SimpleUSB_Tune_Menu
In-Reply-To: <AEB47143-7B5A-42CD-8D28-4CB07E72ACD9@cgocable.ca>
References: <5203145A-3DEE-4B2A-9789-A5D4B89AECF0@cgocable.ca>
 <9687276D-B5E6-49A0-B943-5E2C0E999129@va3uv.com>
 <AEB47143-7B5A-42CD-8D28-4CB07E72ACD9@cgocable.ca>
Message-ID: <abedc4e3-0f81-3df0-a930-94d77b249211@va3uv.com>

On 2017-07-27 7:57 AM, Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ wrote:
> Hello Ramesh,
>
> Here is attached file 2 PDF
> Of my pictures with PuTTY,
> I choose 2) Set Rx Voice Level (using display)
>
> Subsequently I want to adjust my audio and also recorded my configurations
>

<-- Hi Luc:  Thanks for the screen shot - this is very helpful as it 
clarifies which image you are using.  You are using the hamvoip image 
(https://hamvoip.org/).  You will have to subscribe to that mailing list 
for instructions / support.  This is the original app_rpt / Allstar link 
support group.  We use and support the allstarlink image (available 
from: https://allstarlink.org/) in honor of our late friend, Jim Dixon, 
WB6NIL.

Should you choose to use this image, we are here to provide support as 
required.

73 de

Ramesh, VA3UV


From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Thu Jul 27 14:47:51 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 10:47:51 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] SimpleUSB_Tune_Menu
In-Reply-To: <5203145A-3DEE-4B2A-9789-A5D4B89AECF0@cgocable.ca>
References: <5203145A-3DEE-4B2A-9789-A5D4B89AECF0@cgocable.ca>
Message-ID: <1501166871.4180.20.camel@Project23D.com>

Luc,

The items in simpleusb-tune-menu are the step by step.

Be not afraid to use a little intuition. Your changes are not saved
until you execute a command *IN* the simpleusb-tune-menu, of which I am
going to let you figure out.

While not always obvious, the ASL box mutes DTMF, so you cannot use
that. There is a reason why a 1KHz tone at 3KHz deviation is used. Try
to whistle to as close to 1KHz as possible!..

It is best to use a calibrated service monitor for getting accurate
audio levels, first thing it keeps your node radio in spec. The other
thing is it keeps the audio nice and clean. Find a friend in the area
with a service monitor and have him/her teach you how to appreciate why
it must be used when adjusting audio levels used in radio.

The values metered  on the RX level scale are accurate, so when the RX
deviation meter on the simpleusb-tune-menu says you are at 3KHz
deviation, then you are at 3KHz deviation... provided that signal you
are putting into the node radio is *actually* transmitting at 1KHz tone
at 3KHz deviation. Read the aforementioned paragraph.

Benjamin, KB9LFZ


On Thu, 2017-07-27 at 06:34 -0400, Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> With an RPi, can you tell me how we can do to adjust the audio with a monitor service,
> 
> With PuTTY, I can see, "12 - Run simpleusb_tune_Menu Apllication"
> And then, yes, I saw "2 RX VOICE Level Set" but I do not know how to change my value and also save it
> Is there a step-by-step procedure for AllStar Link,
> 
> RX VOICE
> TX VOICE
> 
> thank you very much and Have a Nice day
> Luc
> 73
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> 
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From bryan at bryanfields.net  Thu Jul 27 15:11:02 2017
From: bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 10:11:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] SimpleUSB_Tune_Menu
In-Reply-To: <1501166871.4180.20.camel@Project23D.com>
References: <5203145A-3DEE-4B2A-9789-A5D4B89AECF0@cgocable.ca>
 <1501166871.4180.20.camel@Project23D.com>
Message-ID: <35DF48DF-5CA9-4F06-8434-F512EA050731@bryanfields.net>

I would add, I adjust all the audio input and output of the radio to -10dBm, and set the USB interface to that.  This way I can swap interfaces without need to reset the levels.

--
Bryan Fields
M: +1-727-409-1194

> On Jul 27, 2017, at 10:48, Benjamin Naber <Benjamin at Project23D.com> wrote:
> 
> Luc,
> 
> The items in simpleusb-tune-menu are the step by step.
> 
> Be not afraid to use a little intuition. Your changes are not saved
> until you execute a command *IN* the simpleusb-tune-menu, of which I am
> going to let you figure out.
> 
> While not always obvious, the ASL box mutes DTMF, so you cannot use
> that. There is a reason why a 1KHz tone at 3KHz deviation is used. Try
> to whistle to as close to 1KHz as possible!..
> 
> It is best to use a calibrated service monitor for getting accurate
> audio levels, first thing it keeps your node radio in spec. The other
> thing is it keeps the audio nice and clean. Find a friend in the area
> with a service monitor and have him/her teach you how to appreciate why
> it must be used when adjusting audio levels used in radio.
> 
> The values metered  on the RX level scale are accurate, so when the RX
> deviation meter on the simpleusb-tune-menu says you are at 3KHz
> deviation, then you are at 3KHz deviation... provided that signal you
> are putting into the node radio is *actually* transmitting at 1KHz tone
> at 3KHz deviation. Read the aforementioned paragraph.
> 
> Benjamin, KB9LFZ
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 2017-07-27 at 06:34 -0400, Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> With an RPi, can you tell me how we can do to adjust the audio with a monitor service,
>> 
>> With PuTTY, I can see, "12 - Run simpleusb_tune_Menu Apllication"
>> And then, yes, I saw "2 RX VOICE Level Set" but I do not know how to change my value and also save it
>> Is there a step-by-step procedure for AllStar Link,
>> 
>> RX VOICE
>> TX VOICE
>> 
>> thank you very much and Have a Nice day
>> Luc
>> 73
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> 
>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. 
> 
> 
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From n6gkj1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 16:45:58 2017
From: n6gkj1 at gmail.com (N6GKJ Land)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:45:58 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes on a laptop running DIAL
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Message-ID: <CANr-_9ric3eguvoS1AuAaGbfPOyb=AqUhP=onvBhWWxz1EdWqA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

I know this has been asked before and I can't seem recall when...

I have 2 DMK URI's on my laptop running DIAL. My problem is that every time
I power cycle the laptop, the URI's get readdressed and the node
*usbxxxxx.conf files have to be changed to reflect the new buss assignments.

How do we get around this?

I'm not sure at this point if it is a DIAL issue or a hardware issue with
the laptop.

I have seen this before on another platform, just can't seem recall what I
did to fix it.

Changing the platform is not an option in this case, I have a project in
process that requires a laptop running DIAL with GUI installed. My system
is working great with the exception of the USB assignments

Ron,
N6GKJ
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Thu Jul 27 18:59:59 2017
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:59:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes on a laptop running DIAL
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Message-ID: <71e87cff-2e5f-fb37-679a-1540a52b71ba@va3uv.com>

On 2017-07-27 12:45 PM, N6GKJ Land wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I know this has been asked before and I can't seem recall when...
>
> I have 2 DMK URI's on my laptop running DIAL. My problem is that every 
> time I power cycle the laptop, the URI's get readdressed and the node 
> *usbxxxxx.conf files have to be changed to reflect the new buss 
> assignments.
>
> How do we get around this?
>
> I'm not sure at this point if it is a DIAL issue or a hardware issue 
> with the laptop.
>
> I have seen this before on another platform, just can't seem recall 
> what I did to fix it.
>
> Changing the platform is not an option in this case, I have a project 
> in process that requires a laptop running DIAL with GUI installed. My 
> system is working great with the exception of the USB assignments
>
>
<-- Hi Ron:  Take a look at the info on this page: 
https://allstarlink.org/usbradio.html#configuration

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Ramesh.



From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 04:32:46 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 21:32:46 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes on a laptop running DIAL
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 <CANr-_9r_6xaxYVF5691zSDfFWUE7fU3+3j5yLcpYHWqdO724YQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9pNrfCFygS1MRiPp_GteiibEnUV_GcDEHWun+3ppUsvxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9p3eBeSkKOtht6_4Mh2wcbnZfUzKnrt+Bqr-DVR=5nZBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9ri3qrJ6ydDW1WovOGQuKTuFEQcs1i+eoh-7f57KjLkWA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9p+XS5NF4dO6UKLdDF5bwXE7fWkn2xx=6GcCsGqf1VPFw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <69D1C0BF-EF20-4A91-9E63-B17FE5DF4E2D@gmail.com>

Seems to me the GUI and Asterisk are in conflict for control of Linux.

Thanks,
Bob
k6ecm
73

Sent from iPad


> On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:45 AM, N6GKJ Land <n6gkj1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I know this has been asked before and I can't seem recall when...
> 
> I have 2 DMK URI's on my laptop running DIAL. My problem is that every time I power cycle the laptop, the URI's get readdressed and the node *usbxxxxx.conf files have to be changed to reflect the new buss assignments.
> 
> How do we get around this?
> 
> I'm not sure at this point if it is a DIAL issue or a hardware issue with the laptop.
> 
> I have seen this before on another platform, just can't seem recall what I did to fix it.
> 
> Changing the platform is not an option in this case, I have a project in process that requires a laptop running DIAL with GUI installed. My system is working great with the exception of the USB assignments
> 
> Ron, 
> N6GKJ
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From n6gkj1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 04:56:09 2017
From: n6gkj1 at gmail.com (N6GKJ Land)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 21:56:09 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes on a laptop running DIAL
In-Reply-To: <69D1C0BF-EF20-4A91-9E63-B17FE5DF4E2D@gmail.com>
References: <CANr-_9pWdTwM=QOpyT6Y90E+Us=7+Q4o5U-kHjEySEBC+gAZ2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9qyGLkJ-2C0JT=7i4TvWhP0GFo0=QN_jS6YEq4LhC_23w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9orzYnN=Ebv4Oh0GA+xSfUZyzs-G6J773+wwOXkdt9PLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9o79oBd2wMdSzx6wGaKkV=UNONaJhR-tgUv3TG-PVQikA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9qXfx6g9HXuSxcP8NYZUqsWiUTt=0ks4UHQgYB5cLsHDw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9qyXZix3274EonBMw4EZifMo1WHp-FxxfMxQ-jCAi3gQw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9q80zX5x1PEG30nEkMwdOtKekZJ1n1i3nMn1h5awp-bZg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9qMXxSTWW2ZVP78SJ7cwCM0zs=7gkUnNe-tra+HTMTWyQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9oZMTMcy+ArXqvYS_cFsBmWDP3bgV8Z0_3=Hrdxr32C1Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9poLTVeHs+6wf276aUVP9z_v-dBqPEY6Leo+vjum4cwQg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9oP5dbXp3mjNpK1+NA89xnsgnxsRRyW5d1LOu4dDhK+4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9r_6xaxYVF5691zSDfFWUE7fU3+3j5yLcpYHWqdO724YQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9pNrfCFygS1MRiPp_GteiibEnUV_GcDEHWun+3ppUsvxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9p3eBeSkKOtht6_4Mh2wcbnZfUzKnrt+Bqr-DVR=5nZBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9ri3qrJ6ydDW1WovOGQuKTuFEQcs1i+eoh-7f57KjLkWA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9p+XS5NF4dO6UKLdDF5bwXE7fWkn2xx=6GcCsGqf1VPFw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9p0yJ9MF_bBCQWfRrzDd44vMCdBaWmHRrz+hT0VfxHqgQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9ric3eguvoS1AuAaGbfPOyb=AqUhP=onvBhWWxz1EdWqA@mail.gmail.com>
 <69D1C0BF-EF20-4A91-9E63-B17FE5DF4E2D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANr-_9pGybYb+O8AjLvDQYHRA8+CRr5Q=QbLnkgvgj58tPRUwQ@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know how GNOME 3 will affect the USB. It is something I will look
into though.

I could rewrite the dispatch software maybe make it a server/client based
system. I wrote the application in Python 2.7 ..

I could do the same thing with some changes. Possible to display on an
Android tablet. I can figure out how to write an Android client app.

On Jul 27, 2017 9:32 PM, "Bob Pyke" <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Seems to me the GUI and Asterisk are in conflict for control of Linux.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
> k6ecm
> 73
>
> Sent from iPad
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:45 AM, N6GKJ Land <n6gkj1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I know this has been asked before and I can't seem recall when...
> >
> > I have 2 DMK URI's on my laptop running DIAL. My problem is that every
> time I power cycle the laptop, the URI's get readdressed and the node
> *usbxxxxx.conf files have to be changed to reflect the new buss assignments.
> >
> > How do we get around this?
> >
> > I'm not sure at this point if it is a DIAL issue or a hardware issue
> with the laptop.
> >
> > I have seen this before on another platform, just can't seem recall what
> I did to fix it.
> >
> > Changing the platform is not an option in this case, I have a project in
> process that requires a laptop running DIAL with GUI installed. My system
> is working great with the exception of the USB assignments
> >
> > Ron,
> > N6GKJ
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
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> cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of
> the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit
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From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Fri Jul 28 15:31:07 2017
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 11:31:07 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 2 nodes on a laptop running DIAL
In-Reply-To: <CANr-_9pGybYb+O8AjLvDQYHRA8+CRr5Q=QbLnkgvgj58tPRUwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANr-_9pWdTwM=QOpyT6Y90E+Us=7+Q4o5U-kHjEySEBC+gAZ2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9qyGLkJ-2C0JT=7i4TvWhP0GFo0=QN_jS6YEq4LhC_23w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9orzYnN=Ebv4Oh0GA+xSfUZyzs-G6J773+wwOXkdt9PLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9o79oBd2wMdSzx6wGaKkV=UNONaJhR-tgUv3TG-PVQikA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9qXfx6g9HXuSxcP8NYZUqsWiUTt=0ks4UHQgYB5cLsHDw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9qyXZix3274EonBMw4EZifMo1WHp-FxxfMxQ-jCAi3gQw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9q80zX5x1PEG30nEkMwdOtKekZJ1n1i3nMn1h5awp-bZg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9qMXxSTWW2ZVP78SJ7cwCM0zs=7gkUnNe-tra+HTMTWyQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9oZMTMcy+ArXqvYS_cFsBmWDP3bgV8Z0_3=Hrdxr32C1Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9poLTVeHs+6wf276aUVP9z_v-dBqPEY6Leo+vjum4cwQg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9oP5dbXp3mjNpK1+NA89xnsgnxsRRyW5d1LOu4dDhK+4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9r_6xaxYVF5691zSDfFWUE7fU3+3j5yLcpYHWqdO724YQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9pNrfCFygS1MRiPp_GteiibEnUV_GcDEHWun+3ppUsvxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9p3eBeSkKOtht6_4Mh2wcbnZfUzKnrt+Bqr-DVR=5nZBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9ri3qrJ6ydDW1WovOGQuKTuFEQcs1i+eoh-7f57KjLkWA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9p+XS5NF4dO6UKLdDF5bwXE7fWkn2xx=6GcCsGqf1VPFw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9p0yJ9MF_bBCQWfRrzDd44vMCdBaWmHRrz+hT0VfxHqgQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9ric3eguvoS1AuAaGbfPOyb=AqUhP=onvBhWWxz1EdWqA@mail.gmail.com>
 <69D1C0BF-EF20-4A91-9E63-B17FE5DF4E2D@gmail.com>
 <CANr-_9pGybYb+O8AjLvDQYHRA8+CRr5Q=QbLnkgvgj58tPRUwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABbxpd945go+M=0v-OoQ8+7+D=q_FZh=ncidicOiuhVcqnt8Tw@mail.gmail.com>

I've had trouble with this as well, I think UDEV applies here, but may or
may not conflict with what app_rpt does to take care of the assignments by
default.

Anyone know if UDEV could be used for a scenario like this?

73
Stephen
K1LNX

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:56 AM, N6GKJ Land <n6gkj1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know how GNOME 3 will affect the USB. It is something I will look
> into though.
>
> I could rewrite the dispatch software maybe make it a server/client based
> system. I wrote the application in Python 2.7 ..
>
> I could do the same thing with some changes. Possible to display on an
> Android tablet. I can figure out how to write an Android client app.
>
> On Jul 27, 2017 9:32 PM, "Bob Pyke" <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Seems to me the GUI and Asterisk are in conflict for control of Linux.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> k6ecm
>> 73
>>
>> Sent from iPad
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:45 AM, N6GKJ Land <n6gkj1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > I know this has been asked before and I can't seem recall when...
>> >
>> > I have 2 DMK URI's on my laptop running DIAL. My problem is that every
>> time I power cycle the laptop, the URI's get readdressed and the node
>> *usbxxxxx.conf files have to be changed to reflect the new buss assignments.
>> >
>> > How do we get around this?
>> >
>> > I'm not sure at this point if it is a DIAL issue or a hardware issue
>> with the laptop.
>> >
>> > I have seen this before on another platform, just can't seem recall
>> what I did to fix it.
>> >
>> > Changing the platform is not an option in this case, I have a project
>> in process that requires a laptop running DIAL with GUI installed. My
>> system is working great with the exception of the USB assignments
>> >
>> > Ron,
>> > N6GKJ
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > App_rpt-users mailing list
>> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> >
>> > To unsubscribe from this list please visit
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and
>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press
>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>> > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email
>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to
>> the list detailing the problem.
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>
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From lengriff at optimum.net  Sat Jul 29 14:16:07 2017
From: lengriff at optimum.net (lengriff at optimum.net)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:16:07 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio ' Clicking '
Message-ID: <597C98A5.000037.04488@LEAPER-PC>

At ETSNJ, we run 2 repeaters off a Raspberry Pi. After a few days, the audio begins to suffer brief interruptions with a clicking type sound. It progressively gets worse until it is chopping up the actual conversation. I can clear it by re-booting the Pi, but it returns after a time. I've looked at the running processes, and do not see anything abnormal that would chew up processor resources. Anyone have thoughts on what this might be?


From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Sat Jul 29 16:03:37 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:03:37 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio ' Clicking '
In-Reply-To: <597C98A5.000037.04488@LEAPER-PC>
References: <597C98A5.000037.04488@LEAPER-PC>
Message-ID: <1501344217.4180.43.camel@Project23D.com>

lengriff,

During a net discussion about some issues seemingly related only to the
RPi versions, it was brought up that the RPi should have a heat sink on
the CPU.

While the RPi sips very little power, the CPU is still going to get warm
to hot, depending on load, and should be heat sinked.... just like any
other CPU. Why manufacturers don't included them, is more a question of
expense and other business politics that we shall NOT get into on here.

I just learned the RPi itself has a "Turbo Mode" and explained to me it
is similar, but not quite, to over-clocking. In this case, a heat sink
with a fan is a requirement unless you want to keep buying RPi's.

Also, locally two nodes had to be reflashed after utility line voltage
drops during storms, but line voltage comes back on quick enough, it
never fully dropped to zero. The RPi's would be stuck in a state in
which whatever it was doing, it will continue doing it, but nothing else
could be started or stopped. No connections could be made, command
executed, etc. I am sure there is a better way to explained, but even
after proper RPi full power-cycless, the RPi node never recovered after
the power 'blips'.

There were some stories of commercial repeater controllers having the
same issues with utility line voltage fluctuations. The repeater
controllers would hang, and have to be physically power-cycled by a
visiting the site.

Benjamin, KB9LFZ


On Sat, 2017-07-29 at 10:16 -0400, lengriff at optimum.net wrote:
> At ETSNJ, we run 2 repeaters off a Raspberry Pi. After a few days, the audio begins to suffer brief interruptions with a clicking type sound. It progressively gets worse until it is chopping up the actual conversation. I can clear it by re-booting the Pi, but it returns after a time. I've looked at the running processes, and do not see anything abnormal that would chew up processor resources. Anyone have thoughts on what this might be?
> _______________________________________________
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From kizzy at lusfiber.net  Sat Jul 29 16:33:59 2017
From: kizzy at lusfiber.net (Steve Mahler)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 11:33:59 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Release of AutoSkyWarn 5
Message-ID: <9b6f7e4b-e6d6-4dd6-a542-e72cb2692eb5@lusfiber.net>

AutoSkyWarn Version 5M is now ready for release. Available at 
http://kizzy03.wixsite.com/kf5vh/auto-skywarn

AutoSkyWarn (ASW) is designed to couple SkyWarn Operations with AllStar 
Servers / Nodes. ASW is a program / shell script (developed to run on 
the AllStar DIAL distribution for PCs) allowing an AllStar Server and 
Node to automatically report and announce about 50 National Weather 
Service (NWS) Warnings, Watches, Advisories and Statements as they occur.

You can access the Overview and ReadMe1st first documents at 
http://kizzy03.wixsite.com/kf5vh/auto-skywarn
and also on that site you can hear 3 sounds clips of messages produced 
by ASW.

This release is for someone that has worked with UNIX/Linux systems as 
superuser. There are installation notes, but no step by step 
installation guide. (There is an effort to integrate ASW into the DIAL 
add-on/upgraded system.) The software requires Festival and SOX to operate.

I will be releasing copies of ASW (as a tarball) by email until a direct 
download is available. So after reviewing the Overview and ReadMe1st if 
you are interested in AutoSkyWarn please send me an email at

KF5VH at louisiana.edu

and please include:
- Your Name
- Your CallSign
- Your Location
- a URL pointer to your repeater/group website
- any other interesting information

...STeve - KF5VH

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From george at dyb.com  Sat Jul 29 17:29:28 2017
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:29:28 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
Message-ID: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>

Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it 
three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:

host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked

Anybody know what this might mean?

GeorgeC


-- 
George Csahanin
10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
Crowley, TX 76036
682-708-5716 home
401-338-0568 cel
http://dyb.com
PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer function
USE george at w2db.com



From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul 30 00:29:26 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 17:29:26 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>
References: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbLbSJqcq6-itX18c-rHThuM4Lh+S9649pt4sMaYzFq5Bw@mail.gmail.com>

I saw your post from the att forum dated back in Sept 2016. So your router
detected a php hijacking and blocked the packet. That's ok.  But.. I would
guess your getting attacked all around and over loading your router. If you
have a consumer-grade router. I would call att and see if they have anyway
of looking to see if your being attacked. Getting a new IP address should
help. Login to your router check to see what your WAN/Public IP address.


Try powering off your Router and ASL Node for 3-5 minutes.

Some hackers testing your IP address and router.

The power off is to hopefully get a new IP address.

Google online port scanner. Find one a scan your router to see if any of
your ports our open. It should show no port. Filtered ports are bad as well.

David KE6UPI

PS: If your into playing with routers and making your own. Try OPNsense.
https://opnsense.org/

I use Sophos with a free home lic.



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Csahanin <george at dyb.com> wrote:

> Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it
> three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
>
> host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
>
> Anybody know what this might mean?
>
> GeorgeC
>
>
> --
> George Csahanin
> 10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
> Crowley, TX 76036
> 682-708-5716 home
> 401-338-0568 cel
> http://dyb.com
> PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer
> function
> USE george at w2db.com
>
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Sun Jul 30 00:34:46 2017
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (ars.w5omr at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:34:46 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
Message-ID: <597d29a9.482cca0a.8fce9.494e@mx.google.com>

Steve Gibson, the guy that gave us SpinRite back in the DOS days, has a much better port scanner.
I wanna say his site is Gibson research Inc, or, GRC dot com, but research would help.

On Jul 29, 2017 7:29 PM, David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I saw your post from the att forum dated back in Sept 2016. So your router detected a php hijacking and blocked the packet. That's ok.? But.. I would guess your getting?attacked all around and over loading your router. If you have a?consumer-grade router. I would call att and see if they have anyway of looking to see if your being attacked. Getting a new IP address should help. Login to your router check to see what your WAN/Public IP address.
>
>
> Try powering off your Router and ASL Node for 3-5 minutes.
>
> Some hackers testing your IP address and router.
>
> The power off is to hopefully get a new IP address.
>
> Google?online port scanner. Find one a scan your router to see if any of your ports our open. It should show no port. Filtered ports are bad as well.
>
> David KE6UPI
>
> PS: If your into playing with routers and making your own. Try OPNsense.
> https://opnsense.org/
>
> I use Sophos with a free home lic.
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Csahanin <george at dyb.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
>>
>> host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
>>
>> Anybody know what this might mean?
>>
>> GeorgeC
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> George Csahanin
>> 10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
>> Crowley, TX 76036
>> 682-708-5716?home
>> 401-338-0568?cel
>> http://dyb.com
>> PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer function
>> USE george at w2db.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Jul 30 00:52:17 2017
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 20:52:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707292051330.9489-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


George,

This thread may help.

https://forums.att.com/t5/AT-T-Internet-Features/DNS-Hijacking/td-p/4809874

73, David KB4FXC


On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, George Csahanin wrote:

> Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it 
three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:

host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked

Anybody know what this might mean?

GeorgeC


-- 
George Csahanin
10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
Crowley, TX 76036
682-708-5716 home
401-338-0568 cel
http://dyb.com
PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer function
USE george at w2db.com

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From andy_kb7b at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 30 06:42:27 2017
From: andy_kb7b at yahoo.com (Andy KB7B)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 08:42:27 +0200
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbLbSJqcq6-itX18c-rHThuM4Lh+S9649pt4sMaYzFq5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>
 <CAH4RvbLbSJqcq6-itX18c-rHThuM4Lh+S9649pt4sMaYzFq5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B07D1D04-DA5B-44E3-AA3A-3B531C216E20@yahoo.com>

Would changing the Allstar port number help, or would the bad guys just discover this in short order?

-Andy
KB7B
42432

> On Jul 30, 2017, at 2:29 AM, David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I saw your post from the att forum dated back in Sept 2016. So your router detected a php hijacking and blocked the packet. That's ok.  But.. I would guess your getting attacked all around and over loading your router. If you have a consumer-grade router. I would call att and see if they have anyway of looking to see if your being attacked. Getting a new IP address should help. Login to your router check to see what your WAN/Public IP address.
> 
> 
> Try powering off your Router and ASL Node for 3-5 minutes.
> 
> Some hackers testing your IP address and router.
> 
> The power off is to hopefully get a new IP address.
> 
> Google online port scanner. Find one a scan your router to see if any of your ports our open. It should show no port. Filtered ports are bad as well.
> 
> David KE6UPI
> 
> PS: If your into playing with routers and making your own. Try OPNsense.
> https://opnsense.org/
> 
> I use Sophos with a free home lic.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Thanks, David
> 
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Csahanin <george at dyb.com> wrote:
>> Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
>> 
>> host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
>> 
>> Anybody know what this might mean?
>> 
>> GeorgeC
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> George Csahanin
>> 10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
>> Crowley, TX 76036
>> 682-708-5716 home
>> 401-338-0568 cel
>> http://dyb.com
>> PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer function
>> USE george at w2db.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> 
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From bdboyle at bdboyle.com  Sun Jul 30 13:24:08 2017
From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:24:08 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <B07D1D04-DA5B-44E3-AA3A-3B531C216E20@yahoo.com>
References: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>
 <CAH4RvbLbSJqcq6-itX18c-rHThuM4Lh+S9649pt4sMaYzFq5Bw@mail.gmail.com>
 <B07D1D04-DA5B-44E3-AA3A-3B531C216E20@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <534A6F25-7927-4CA8-A068-4E2143E19B9E@bdboyle.com>

if you are on the public net with an open port...you will be found.  

--
Bryan
Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.



> On Jul 30, 2017, at 02:42, Andy KB7B <andy_kb7b at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Would changing the Allstar port number help, or would the bad guys just discover this in short order?
> 
> -Andy
> KB7B
> 42432
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2017, at 2:29 AM, David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I saw your post from the att forum dated back in Sept 2016. So your router detected a php hijacking and blocked the packet. That's ok.  But.. I would guess your getting attacked all around and over loading your router. If you have a consumer-grade router. I would call att and see if they have anyway of looking to see if your being attacked. Getting a new IP address should help. Login to your router check to see what your WAN/Public IP address.
>> 
>> 
>> Try powering off your Router and ASL Node for 3-5 minutes.
>> 
>> Some hackers testing your IP address and router.
>> 
>> The power off is to hopefully get a new IP address.
>> 
>> Google online port scanner. Find one a scan your router to see if any of your ports our open. It should show no port. Filtered ports are bad as well.
>> 
>> David KE6UPI
>> 
>> PS: If your into playing with routers and making your own. Try OPNsense.
>> https://opnsense.org/
>> 
>> I use Sophos with a free home lic.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks, David
>> 
>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one."
>> Thomas Jefferson
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Csahanin <george at dyb.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
>>> 
>>> host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
>>> 
>>> Anybody know what this might mean?
>>> 
>>> GeorgeC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> George Csahanin
>>> 10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
>>> Crowley, TX 76036
>>> 682-708-5716 home
>>> 401-338-0568 cel
>>> http://dyb.com
>>> PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer function
>>> USE george at w2db.com
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>> 
>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
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>> 
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From george at dyb.com  Sun Jul 30 16:38:21 2017
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 11:38:21 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>
References: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>
Message-ID: <aa2857a3-3b0f-78ec-8e2e-637087fd7443@dyb.com>

Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.

host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is.
And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org

I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T):
*/"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description 
endings in the logs.  They are stating that the/**/*Gateway*/**/has hijacked the connection, and is providing responses.  It does not 
mean that an external party has hijacked the connection.  The gateway 
does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it 
usually causes more harm than it does good./*"

I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort of...it IS AT&T

GeorgeC
2360


On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
> Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done 
> it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
>
> host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
>
> Anybody know what this might mean?
>
> GeorgeC
>
>

-- 
George Csahanin
10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
Crowley, TX 76036
682-708-5716 home
401-338-0568 cel
http://dyb.com
PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer function
USE george at w2db.com

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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul 30 18:00:08 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 11:00:08 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <aa2857a3-3b0f-78ec-8e2e-637087fd7443@dyb.com>
References: <d59a6072-31ba-d0d2-d091-f4d94447923e@dyb.com>
 <aa2857a3-3b0f-78ec-8e2e-637087fd7443@dyb.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbLPOQ7uU4fzi6Z4z1GD+8xzE2nPscOSV37cDkVQrAJUNQ@mail.gmail.com>

No it's not AT&T's network.

What is the reason that the gateway (your router) hijacked the packet? Is
the packet malformed? Did the packet get hijacked by an internal or
external system? I can't remember if stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php
sends back a response or not. Why, if it does send a response back. Then it
could be an external problem. If it doesn't then it is an internal problem.
Or just get a better router that doesn't freak out over a this common
problem. What model router do you have?

David
KE6UPI



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:38 AM, George Csahanin <george at dyb.com> wrote:

> Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.
>
> host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is.
> And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org
>
> I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T):*"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description endings in the logs.  They are stating that the **Gateway** has hijacked the connection, and is providing responses.  It does not mean that an external party has hijacked the connection.  The gateway does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it usually causes more harm than it does good.*"
>
> I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort of...it IS AT&T
>
> GeorgeC
> 2360
>
>
> On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
>
> Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done it
> three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
>
> host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
>
> Anybody know what this might mean?
>
> GeorgeC
>
>
>
> --
> George Csahanin
> 10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
> Crowley, TX 76036682-708-5716 <(682)%20708-5716> home401-338-0568 <(401)%20338-0568> celhttp://dyb.com
> PLEASE NOTE: Effective January 1, 2018 george at dyb.com will no longer function
> USE george at w2db.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Jul 30 18:04:09 2017
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 14:04:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <aa2857a3-3b0f-78ec-8e2e-637087fd7443@dyb.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707301354260.26668-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


George,

I sent you a link to a related, but wrong article, earlier.  This link 
explains what is going on:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/atts-plan-to-watch-your-web-browsing-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/

So, basically, what "hijacked" means is that the DNS entry for 
stats.allstarlink.org has been spoofed by AT&T, and those queries have 
been redirected to an AT&T proxy server (AKA: man in the middle) for 
"evaluation" before passing the request along to the REAL stats server.

DNS hijacking is becoming a serious problem these days, even if you set 
your DNS server explicitly to a well known address---like google 
(8.8.8.8)....This problem is one reason so much traffic on the Internet 
these days uses TLS (https), since using TLS will at least notify you of 
an invalid host (like a proxy server). BUT, be aware that even using TLS 
doesn't eliminate this man-in-the-middle problem, it just makes it easier 
to spot.

73, David KB4FXC





On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, George Csahanin wrote:

> Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.
> 
> host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is.
> And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org
> 
> I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T):
> */"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description 
> endings in the logs.  They are stating that the/**/*Gateway*/**/has hijacked the connection, and is providing responses.  It does not 
> mean that an external party has hijacked the connection.  The gateway 
> does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it 
> usually causes more harm than it does good./*"
> 
> I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort of...it IS AT&T
> 
> GeorgeC
> 2360
> 
> 
> On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
> > Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done 
> > it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see several:
> >
> > host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
> >
> > Anybody know what this might mean?
> >
> > GeorgeC
> >
> >
> 
> 



From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul 30 18:27:15 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 11:27:15 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707301354260.26668-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <aa2857a3-3b0f-78ec-8e2e-637087fd7443@dyb.com>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707301354260.26668-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbL22GpxbrbPqK8xSNb=KvX=9-usu6=Aja5ce=nCc0hJTg@mail.gmail.com>

Well there you have it. If KB4FXC is right. AT&T hijacked your packet and
your router acted appropriately. So I'll check to see if https will work or
not. But you'r router is still freaking out.

David



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:04 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:

>
> George,
>
> I sent you a link to a related, but wrong article, earlier.  This link
> explains what is going on:
>
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/
> 03/atts-plan-to-watch-your-web-browsing-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/
>
> So, basically, what "hijacked" means is that the DNS entry for
> stats.allstarlink.org has been spoofed by AT&T, and those queries have
> been redirected to an AT&T proxy server (AKA: man in the middle) for
> "evaluation" before passing the request along to the REAL stats server.
>
> DNS hijacking is becoming a serious problem these days, even if you set
> your DNS server explicitly to a well known address---like google
> (8.8.8.8)....This problem is one reason so much traffic on the Internet
> these days uses TLS (https), since using TLS will at least notify you of
> an invalid host (like a proxy server). BUT, be aware that even using TLS
> doesn't eliminate this man-in-the-middle problem, it just makes it easier
> to spot.
>
> 73, David KB4FXC
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, George Csahanin wrote:
>
> > Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.
> >
> > host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from
> rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is.
> > And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org
> >
> > I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T):
> > */"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description
> > endings in the logs.  They are stating that the/**/*Gateway*/**/has
> hijacked the connection, and is providing responses.  It does not
> > mean that an external party has hijacked the connection.  The gateway
> > does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it
> > usually causes more harm than it does good./*"
> >
> > I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort
> of...it IS AT&T
> >
> > GeorgeC
> > 2360
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
> > > Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done
> > > it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see
> several:
> > >
> > > host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
> > >
> > > Anybody know what this might mean?
> > >
> > > GeorgeC
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul 30 19:15:11 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:15:11 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink website
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbKZ6ZKoQxeAwzJWJSvrTQhtqK_F+g23dYCNmx4meuKR3w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone, Quick question. I'm not able to edit / access my node
settings on the website.  All I have is "Home" "WebTransceiver" "Network"
"Account Settings". Do I need to do something to get back access to my
nodes?


--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Jul 30 19:24:05 2017
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 15:24:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Got a strange error in my AT&T gateway
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbL22GpxbrbPqK8xSNb=KvX=9-usu6=Aja5ce=nCc0hJTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1707301518530.26668-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


The first thing to check in resolving the need to regularly reboot the
router is if there is a firmware upgrade available for it.

Also, google the router model and some extra words like "locks up" or
"reboot" or similar. Some ISP supplied routers are just buggy, with no
easy fix other than to replace it with a different model.

73, David KB4FXC





On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, David Shaw wrote:

> Well there you have it. If KB4FXC is right. AT&T hijacked your packet and
> your router acted appropriately. So I'll check to see if https will work or
> not. But you'r router is still freaking out.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Thanks, David
> 
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
> 
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:04 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> > George,
> >
> > I sent you a link to a related, but wrong article, earlier.  This link
> > explains what is going on:
> >
> > https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/
> > 03/atts-plan-to-watch-your-web-browsing-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/
> >
> > So, basically, what "hijacked" means is that the DNS entry for
> > stats.allstarlink.org has been spoofed by AT&T, and those queries have
> > been redirected to an AT&T proxy server (AKA: man in the middle) for
> > "evaluation" before passing the request along to the REAL stats server.
> >
> > DNS hijacking is becoming a serious problem these days, even if you set
> > your DNS server explicitly to a well known address---like google
> > (8.8.8.8)....This problem is one reason so much traffic on the Internet
> > these days uses TLS (https), since using TLS will at least notify you of
> > an invalid host (like a proxy server). BUT, be aware that even using TLS
> > doesn't eliminate this man-in-the-middle problem, it just makes it easier
> > to spot.
> >
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, George Csahanin wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe I wasn't clear on this point.
> > >
> > > host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php is a valid line from
> > rpt.conf, well, technically http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php is.
> > > And my stats show up in stats.allstarlink.org
> > >
> > > I found this on ATT forum, from another user (oddly, NOT from AT&T):
> > > */"the correct information in regards to the " hijacked" description
> > > endings in the logs.  They are stating that the/**/*Gateway*/**/has
> > hijacked the connection, and is providing responses.  It does not
> > > mean that an external party has hijacked the connection.  The gateway
> > > does this to send you error messages (i.e. in your browser), but it
> > > usually causes more harm than it does good./*"
> > >
> > > I'll ignore this log entry. The daily reboot is still a mystery, sort
> > of...it IS AT&T
> > >
> > > GeorgeC
> > > 2360
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/29/2017 12:29 PM, George Csahanin wrote:
> > > > Hi all. I've been seeing a daily reboot of my AT&T gateway, has done
> > > > it three times now. Looked at the logs in the AT&T box and I see
> > several:
> > > >
> > > > host=stats.allstarlink.org url=/uhandler.php hijacked
> > > >
> > > > Anybody know what this might mean?
> > > >
> > > > GeorgeC
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
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> >
> 



From jim.pilgram at gmail.com  Sun Jul 30 19:30:29 2017
From: jim.pilgram at gmail.com (James R. Pilgram)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:30:29 -1000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink website
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbKZ6ZKoQxeAwzJWJSvrTQhtqK_F+g23dYCNmx4meuKR3w@mail.gmail.com>
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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Sun Jul 30 20:11:21 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 13:11:21 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink website
In-Reply-To: <597e33d9.ca58650a.9b8a7.27aa@mx.google.com>
References: <CAH4RvbKZ6ZKoQxeAwzJWJSvrTQhtqK_F+g23dYCNmx4meuKR3w@mail.gmail.com>
 <597e33d9.ca58650a.9b8a7.27aa@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbK4KOX-4PUXkAbVb3H3ZjjFkJLJtmNqcz6HMOxOwM0sbQ@mail.gmail.com>

See what worked. Thanks Jim

David



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 12:30 PM, James R. Pilgram <jim.pilgram at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Log into your account at allstarlink.org and make sure the box convert to
> system operator is checked. If not, check it. Everything should come back.
> Jim NH6HI
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone on the Verizon 4G LTE Network
> *From:* shawpbx at gmail.com
> *Sent:* July 30, 2017 9:15 AM
> *To:* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> *Reply-to:* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink website
>
> Hello Everyone, Quick question. I'm not able to edit / access my node
> settings on the website.  All I have is "Home" "WebTransceiver" "Network"
> "Account Settings". Do I need to do something to get back access to my
> nodes?
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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