[App_rpt-users] What is the "debian" user in the DIAL distro?

Tue Jun 6 03:17:22 UTC 2017

Thanks, Keep us posted on when you will post on your blog, it will help the
ham community a lot, we are not all security computer specialist. In fact,
most of us are more unsecure computer jack of all trade ;-)

Le lun. 5 juin 2017 à 22:50, Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com> a écrit :

> To be honest, I scoured the system and couldn’t find any indication of how
> they got into it.  However, my logs stopped somewhere around June 2 due to
> the log2ram partition filling up, so I didn’t have a LOT to go on.  The
> only way I even found out was the machine was probing SSH ports on hosts
> out on the internet, and got caught by a fail2ban script and reported to my
> employer (who just happens to host the server the VM was running on).  That
> “Debian” user is a prime candidate – but I couldn’t see any evidence that
> was where it came from.  At any rate, I have wiped the VM and am in the
> process of reinstalling now.  I’m going to be doing some serious hardening
> of the system (to rival what we do at work in our PCI-compliant cluster),
> and will document what steps I take onto my Wordpress blog – including
> firewalling the box, limiting SSH connections, and a whole host of other
> stuff.
>
>
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Pierre Martel
> *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2017 9:29 PM
> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] What is the "debian" user in the DIAL
> distro?
>
>
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
>
>
> Can you tell us what they did to enter in the system? this would be the
> first thing to change on any dial system.
>
>
>
> Thanks for letting us know that there is a way to compomise a node, that
> way we can prepare our nodes for a futur attack
>
>
>
> Pierre
>
> VE2PF
>
>
>
>
>
> Le lun. 5 juin 2017 à 17:05, Jeremy Utley <jerutley at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Hello all!
>
> Forgive me for thread necromancy on this one!  I just today had my hub
> node compromised - luckily all they did was try to attack SSH on
> another host (at least that's all I've been able to determine so far).
> So, I'm going to be rebuilding that Hub node tonite.  The reason I
> post is, I am actually a Linux sys-admin in my day job - would there
> be any benefit in me doing a write-up on what all steps I take in
> securing DIAL?  At least a high-level overview of what I end up doing
> that others can build from?
>
> Also, I just want to make sure - doing the standard apt-get update /
> upgrade on DIAL will not break anything, right?
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
> wrote:
> > Thor,
> > I agree that things need to be tightened up. Now that the mandate has
> > changed, those things are changing. I would welcome someone taking on the
> > guidance in system administration piece of the puzzle.
> >
> > 73, Steve N4IRS
> >
> >
> > On 5/11/2017 12:35 PM, Thor Wiegman wrote:
> >>
> >> You're not the first person I'm aware of to have this type of problem.
> >> AllStarLink nodes are an easy target to become bitcoin miners and
> members of
> >> botnets.  Most people installing these nodes don't know the basics of
> Linux
> >> system administration and the defaults aren't even remotely secure.
> >>
> >> Not only should that "debian" user be deleted, the appropriate changes
> to
> >> SSH need to be made to prevent the superuser "root" from logging in
> >> remotely.  That is one of the first things that everyone needs to be
> change
> >> after installation of a DIAL system, not sure why it's even allowed by
> >> default.
> >>
> >> I've noticed that a lot of node ops tend to login as root and execute
> >> commands as the root user.  Crazy!  It's an extremely dangerous and
> insecure
> >> thing to do, but people new to Linux don't know any better.
> >>
> >> It would be nice if the default installation were setup in such a way
> that
> >> prevented or discouraged login by the superuser.  It's odd that sudo
> doesn't
> >> appear to be installed by default.  Would be very nice if the
> installation
> >> script prompted for the creation of a user account with proper
> permissions
> >> in much the same way as standard distros do.  Not perfect, but it's a
> start.
> >>
> >> Most of these systems are being run by people who are new to Linux.
> They
> >> don't know about Linux/Unix system administration and nobody is
> "elmering"
> >> them in it.  The result is people taking dangerous shortcuts and
> developing
> >> bad habits.  The community would benefit from some guidance in system
> >> administration as well as from some improved defaults in the distro.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 05/10/2017 12:38 PM, app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is the "debian" user in the DIAL distro?
> >>
> >>
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