From petem001 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  8 14:33:35 2017
From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 10:33:35 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] app-rpt audacity.pdf
Message-ID: <CAL8dJwrO8nw1Xi5qU1kMsYantbJM-TOH033nV+PpGrZw+gjO+g@mail.gmail.com>

there was a pdf file on here: http://images.ohnosec.org/app-rpt-audacity.pdf

But as disapeared since the dns name was cancelled. where can I find it
again?
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From w2ymm1 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  8 15:10:54 2017
From: w2ymm1 at gmail.com (W2YMM)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 11:10:54 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] app-rpt audacity.pdf
In-Reply-To: <CAL8dJwrO8nw1Xi5qU1kMsYantbJM-TOH033nV+PpGrZw+gjO+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL8dJwrO8nw1Xi5qU1kMsYantbJM-TOH033nV+PpGrZw+gjO+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGi5sj1qwuPgBLBA-+ZS-wEr1fesMbpasDdVxZTWSxovV5d_eA@mail.gmail.com>

I have a copy of the original file here
http://www.qsl.net/w/w2ymm//downloads/ALLSTAR/app-rpt-audacity.pdf

Bob W2YMM


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On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> there was a pdf file on here: http://images.ohnosec.
> org/app-rpt-audacity.pdf
>
> But as disapeared since the dns name was cancelled. where can I find it
> again?
>
>
>
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From w2rjr at aim.com  Mon Oct  9 15:17:16 2017
From: w2rjr at aim.com (W2rjr)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 11:17:16 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Dial RC1 for x86 systems
Message-ID: <15f01b629e8-c10-2aa7b@webjas-vaa044.srv.aolmail.net>




 
Hello,

I recently moved my node from a Raspberry Pi to a Server.  Everything seems to be working but my ID's and node names are not working even my echolink node does not connect. I tried moving the /etc/asterisk file over to the sever to replace the existing file and still not working! Can anyone help?

 
73
Ray, 
W2RJR


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From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Tue Oct 10 01:32:20 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 20:32:20 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Dial RC1 for x86 systems
In-Reply-To: <15f01b629e8-c10-2aa7b@webjas-vaa044.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <15f01b629e8-c10-2aa7b@webjas-vaa044.srv.aolmail.net>
Message-ID: <1507599140.1493.9.camel@Project23D.com>

Logs?

Verify the source files overwrote the files in the destination asterisk
folder?

Can you get into the asterisk console?

reboot or restart asterisk after verified iax.conf, rpt.conf,
simpleusb.com, simplusb_tune_xxxx.conf, are the files with the correct
data in them? 

Benjamin, KB9LFZ


On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 11:17 -0400, W2rjr wrote:
>   
> Hello,
>  
> I recently moved my node from a Raspberry Pi to a Server.  Everything
> seems to be working but my ID's and node names are not working even my
> echolink node does not connect. I tried moving the /etc/asterisk file
> over to the sever to replace the existing file and still not working!
> Can anyone help?
>  
> 73 
> Ray, 
> W2RJR
> _______________________________________________
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From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Tue Oct 10 01:36:37 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 20:36:37 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Hub Node Usage
In-Reply-To: <d5l0kflaipwvfilk6aoig5u9.1506478459802@email.android.com>
References: <d5l0kflaipwvfilk6aoig5u9.1506478459802@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <1507599397.1493.13.camel@Project23D.com>

Gents,

Thanks for the diligent replies, and waiting for something back from me.
I moved from Columbus, GA to Tyler, TX last week, and getting settled
in... kinda.

The nodes offered will be kept, and Jeff, I'll let you know if a hub
node needs to be added.

As we progress, we'll be making use of the hub nodes offered.

Thanks!!

Benjamin, KB9LFZ


On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 22:24 -0400, Benjamin Naber wrote:
> I hope this is not a loaded topic.
> 
> 
> I'd like to know the usage allowed of what appears to be 'general
> public' nodes, such as 2000, 2100, 2120, and the like.
> 
> 
> Also, any public use node that has a good internet connection for 30+
> links and is not running on a RPi.
> 
> 
> The reason for inquiring is what started out to be a small, Columbus,
> GA Allstarlink Tech net has grown and is growing. 
> 
> 
> Reaching out to other hub nodes, would, I hope, encourage more
> activity, as well as provide a means of redundancy when a hanful count
> of nodes are listed for "connect here for this net"
> 
> 
> Input?
> Benjamin, KB9LFZ
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Oct 10 07:03:33 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 03:03:33 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] simpleusb GPIO at shutdown
Message-ID: <9671c735-725c-31b5-ad4e-6e53e0728c54@bryanfields.net>

Greetings,

I'm seeing some strange behavior from the GPIO on the CM119 chip.  When
asterisk is shutdown, all the pins go low (active).  This is not the case when
asterisk is running and you disconnect the usb, or when system resets, or if
asterisk is kill -9.

Has anyone else seen this?  I'm using GPIO to channel change and at shutdown
it's imperative the state not change.


-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Thu Oct 12 14:40:50 2017
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:40:50 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM de-emphasis setting
Message-ID: <CABbxpd_THo5ZQSor67Y2=ZMsYuo-ao8JmoO+vEXFc7n1J-rEvg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to be deploying a dedicated 900Mhz simplex node soon using an
RTCM. I will need de-empasis set, as I will be pulling my audio directly
from a discriminator, but I am little unclear as to what the defaults are
for de-emphasis.

For example, I see this in the RTCM manual:

[5678]
buflen=750
mobile1 = mobp1,adpcm,transmit,*nodeemp*

If I just simply leave out "nodeemp" will that perform de-emphasis by
default?

Waiting on parts to be delivered so I am unable to test anything myself
just yet, but just curious if someone has already ran into this and could
clarify for me.

73
Stephen
K1LNX
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From ve7fet at tparc.org  Thu Oct 12 16:46:46 2017
From: ve7fet at tparc.org (Lee Woldanski)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:46:46 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM de-emphasis setting
In-Reply-To: <CABbxpd_THo5ZQSor67Y2=ZMsYuo-ao8JmoO+vEXFc7n1J-rEvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABbxpd_THo5ZQSor67Y2=ZMsYuo-ao8JmoO+vEXFc7n1J-rEvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACaEaZkGTmM2Lx19jp76ZVdibjBvX+4rgzaTcLWT3cZBSaiWYw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Stephen,

Have a read through
http://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/RTCM_Client#Receiver_De-emphasis  (and
some of the other info that is there) and see if it answers your questions.


Cheers!



Lee

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx at k1lnx.net> wrote:

> I'm going to be deploying a dedicated 900Mhz simplex node soon using an
> RTCM. I will need de-empasis set, as I will be pulling my audio directly
> from a discriminator, but I am little unclear as to what the defaults are
> for de-emphasis.
>
> For example, I see this in the RTCM manual:
>
> [5678]
> buflen=750
> mobile1 = mobp1,adpcm,transmit,*nodeemp*
>
> If I just simply leave out "nodeemp" will that perform de-emphasis by
> default?
>
> Waiting on parts to be delivered so I am unable to test anything myself
> just yet, but just curious if someone has already ran into this and could
> clarify for me.
>
> 73
> Stephen
> K1LNX
>
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 20:13:54 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 13:13:54 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
Message-ID: <7347B26A-2ADC-4B42-82D1-7441BFC97584@gmail.com>

Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.

Thanks,
Bob
k6ecm
73
Sent from my iPhone

From ve7lyd at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 20:40:46 2017
From: ve7lyd at gmail.com (Jesse Lloyd)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 13:40:46 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <7347B26A-2ADC-4B42-82D1-7441BFC97584@gmail.com>
References: <7347B26A-2ADC-4B42-82D1-7441BFC97584@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABYhhnrDd5oG1+7MXv-ukGSnyT8dktQQpMGgvrRZ8Gj8onqoKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?

Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide
pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more
then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing
up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause
problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting
with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus
3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna
gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless
more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I
suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that
doesn't effect your receiver.

You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually
over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any
limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd
be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may
have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to
remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter.
It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your
transmitter and receiver.

Jesse



On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in
> my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater
> that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I
> can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
> k6ecm
> 73
> Sent from my iPhone
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From k1lnx at k1lnx.net  Thu Oct 12 22:01:22 2017
From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:01:22 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM de-emphasis setting
In-Reply-To: <CACaEaZkGTmM2Lx19jp76ZVdibjBvX+4rgzaTcLWT3cZBSaiWYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABbxpd_THo5ZQSor67Y2=ZMsYuo-ao8JmoO+vEXFc7n1J-rEvg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACaEaZkGTmM2Lx19jp76ZVdibjBvX+4rgzaTcLWT3cZBSaiWYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABbxpd_WF9taJkg9Tb998Wx=QFZCh84Rf-dv3gMiQf22ET8RbA@mail.gmail.com>

Lee, good stuff, thank you! I may have to investigate a different audio
path on my radio, detector audio may not be the best choice for my
application, but may be my only option.

73
Stephen
K1LNX

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Lee Woldanski <ve7fet at tparc.org> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> Have a read through http://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/RTCM_
> Client#Receiver_De-emphasis  (and some of the other info that is there)
> and see if it answers your questions.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> Lee
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx at k1lnx.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to be deploying a dedicated 900Mhz simplex node soon using an
>> RTCM. I will need de-empasis set, as I will be pulling my audio directly
>> from a discriminator, but I am little unclear as to what the defaults are
>> for de-emphasis.
>>
>> For example, I see this in the RTCM manual:
>>
>> [5678]
>> buflen=750
>> mobile1 = mobp1,adpcm,transmit,*nodeemp*
>>
>> If I just simply leave out "nodeemp" will that perform de-emphasis by
>> default?
>>
>> Waiting on parts to be delivered so I am unable to test anything myself
>> just yet, but just curious if someone has already ran into this and could
>> clarify for me.
>>
>> 73
>> Stephen
>> K1LNX
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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>
>
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 00:35:20 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:35:20 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <CABYhhnrDd5oG1+7MXv-ukGSnyT8dktQQpMGgvrRZ8Gj8onqoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7347B26A-2ADC-4B42-82D1-7441BFC97584@gmail.com>
 <CABYhhnrDd5oG1+7MXv-ukGSnyT8dktQQpMGgvrRZ8Gj8onqoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0F425BBE-E6AB-4F6D-BE33-DB8B152CC189@gmail.com>

I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.

Thanks,
Bob
k6ecm
73
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?
> 
> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that doesn't effect your receiver.
> 
> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter. It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your transmitter and receiver.
> 
> Jesse
> 
>  
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> k6ecm
>> 73
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
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From ve7lyd at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 01:16:28 2017
From: ve7lyd at gmail.com (Jesse Lloyd)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:16:28 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <0F425BBE-E6AB-4F6D-BE33-DB8B152CC189@gmail.com>
References: <7347B26A-2ADC-4B42-82D1-7441BFC97584@gmail.com>
 <CABYhhnrDd5oG1+7MXv-ukGSnyT8dktQQpMGgvrRZ8Gj8onqoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <0F425BBE-E6AB-4F6D-BE33-DB8B152CC189@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABYhhnq3L-cHy0vQK4pKU9an-Ty9qB-e8kHboR3UrOfvnrgxrA@mail.gmail.com>

Ya so if you put a bandpass filter on it, set to 3.2 dB insertion loss
you'll get about 22 dB of reject 250 Khz off.  If you use two cans set each
to 1.1 dB insertion loss each (totaling 2.2 dB) you'll see about 27 dB of
reject. You could also put a notch filter on it for that one receive
frequency, but you should check first to make sure you aren't getting into
other gear at the site (if there is any). At 250 KHz I don't think you'd be
able to take a duplexer notch / pass can and tune it to get any significant
rejection. Sinclair says the Q201 (6 can duplexer) min freq spacing is 300
KHz. You'd might be able to get 30 dB out of 3 notch/pass cans series'd
together, not sure.

To get an additional 30 dB of isolation (totaling 70 dB)  between the
antennas you'll need to space them 3000 ft apart.
http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/horizsep.jpg
Vertical separation is better, you need about 100 ft to get 70 dB, maybe a
little more. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/vertsep.jpg


+49 dBm (79W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB
for repeater antenna, less 70 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna
gives about -19.5 dBm.  This probably still isn't enough, you'll probably
still see some desense, but might be good enough to work, it'll just make
it a little deaf.

Really you need to get it further then 240 Khz off freq. then you can get
away with only one or two extra cans.

Jesse





On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible
> audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the
> other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is
> correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my
> service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot
> of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
> k6ecm
> 73
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear
> audio?
>
> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide
> pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more
> then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing
> up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause
> problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting
> with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus
> 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna
> gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless
> more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I
> suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that
> doesn't effect your receiver.
>
> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually
> over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any
> limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd
> be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may
> have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to
> remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter.
> It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your
> transmitter and receiver.
>
> Jesse
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over
>> in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater
>> that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I
>> can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> k6ecm
>> 73
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Fri Oct 13 01:47:00 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:47:00 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] P25 linking on a Quantar with Allstarlink for analog
Message-ID: <1dcaca31-c7e6-c4fa-ac7b-f7d640dc2298@bryanfields.net>

I'm releasing this now, it's been working reliability in my home for the last
week.

This is a set of programing and a guide on how to setup the basic allstar
config.  Using Kevin's interface board I'm able to fail back to in cabinet
repeat if the RPI should die.  In controller mode it will lock to analog or
digital after an initial 10 seconds of received audio.


http://wiki.w9cr.net/index.php/Allstar_and_P25_on_Quantar

Please give any feedback you may have.

73's
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From w5jr.lists at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 02:39:33 2017
From: w5jr.lists at gmail.com (Mike - W5JR)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:39:33 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <CABYhhnq3L-cHy0vQK4pKU9an-Ty9qB-e8kHboR3UrOfvnrgxrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7347B26A-2ADC-4B42-82D1-7441BFC97584@gmail.com>
 <CABYhhnrDd5oG1+7MXv-ukGSnyT8dktQQpMGgvrRZ8Gj8onqoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <0F425BBE-E6AB-4F6D-BE33-DB8B152CC189@gmail.com>
 <CABYhhnq3L-cHy0vQK4pKU9an-Ty9qB-e8kHboR3UrOfvnrgxrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7846A6C2-5225-45BA-85F3-FEFF24F327EE@gmail.com>

I'd be surprised that your Yaesu can deal with that strong a signal within the passband of its receiver front end. At best, it is 4 MHz wide, and probably no more that 6 dB down at two to three times that. 

A test to try is have the nearby repeater key up, the open the squelch on the Yaesu. My guess is the S-meter will show a "signal", possibly near full scale. I also expect the open squelch noise level to drop. This test is done without the distant repeater keyed. 

There will be zero amount of filtering applied to the nearby repeater transmitter that affects the issue because the problem is the RF coming into the Yaesu itself on the repeater's actual frequency. You can put a (several) bandpass cavity in front of the Yaesu, but then you wouldn't be able to transmit to the distant repeater as the bandpass cavity would significantly attenuate your transmitter. 

You could also install a notch filter in front of the Yaesu tuned to notch the local repeater frequency. A single notch cavity may not be enough. This will allow you to transmit to the distant repeater. However, the notch from a single cavity is likely to be wide enough to reduce the sensitivity some of the Yaesu at 200 KHz. 

My analogy to folks is that it's like shining a bright flashlight in one eye while trying to see a candle at one mile. Pretty impossible to overcome the overload. 

tnx
Mike / W5JR
Alpharetta GA

sent via my HP95LX 


> On Oct 12, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ya so if you put a bandpass filter on it, set to 3.2 dB insertion loss you'll get about 22 dB of reject 250 Khz off.  If you use two cans set each to 1.1 dB insertion loss each (totaling 2.2 dB) you'll see about 27 dB of reject. You could also put a notch filter on it for that one receive frequency, but you should check first to make sure you aren't getting into other gear at the site (if there is any). At 250 KHz I don't think you'd be able to take a duplexer notch / pass can and tune it to get any significant rejection. Sinclair says the Q201 (6 can duplexer) min freq spacing is 300 KHz. You'd might be able to get 30 dB out of 3 notch/pass cans series'd together, not sure.
> 
> To get an additional 30 dB of isolation (totaling 70 dB)  between the antennas you'll need to space them 3000 ft apart. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/horizsep.jpg
> Vertical separation is better, you need about 100 ft to get 70 dB, maybe a little more. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/vertsep.jpg
> 
> 
> +49 dBm (79W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 70 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about -19.5 dBm.  This probably still isn't enough, you'll probably still see some desense, but might be good enough to work, it'll just make it a little deaf.
> 
> Really you need to get it further then 240 Khz off freq. then you can get away with only one or two extra cans.
> 
> Jesse
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> k6ecm
>> 73
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?
>>> 
>>> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that doesn't effect your receiver.
>>> 
>>> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter. It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your transmitter and receiver.
>>> 
>>> Jesse
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob
>>>> k6ecm
>>>> 73
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 03:26:22 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:26:22 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
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References: <7347B26A-2ADC-4B42-82D1-7441BFC97584@gmail.com>
 <CABYhhnrDd5oG1+7MXv-ukGSnyT8dktQQpMGgvrRZ8Gj8onqoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <0F425BBE-E6AB-4F6D-BE33-DB8B152CC189@gmail.com>
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Makes sense. I'll try using the receiver at varying distances from the MASTR II.

Thanks,
Bob
k6ecm

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Mike - W5JR <w5jr.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'd be surprised that your Yaesu can deal with that strong a signal within the passband of its receiver front end. At best, it is 4 MHz wide, and probably no more that 6 dB down at two to three times that. 
> 
> A test to try is have the nearby repeater key up, the open the squelch on the Yaesu. My guess is the S-meter will show a "signal", possibly near full scale. I also expect the open squelch noise level to drop. This test is done without the distant repeater keyed. 
> 
> There will be zero amount of filtering applied to the nearby repeater transmitter that affects the issue because the problem is the RF coming into the Yaesu itself on the repeater's actual frequency. You can put a (several) bandpass cavity in front of the Yaesu, but then you wouldn't be able to transmit to the distant repeater as the bandpass cavity would significantly attenuate your transmitter. 
> 
> You could also install a notch filter in front of the Yaesu tuned to notch the local repeater frequency. A single notch cavity may not be enough. This will allow you to transmit to the distant repeater. However, the notch from a single cavity is likely to be wide enough to reduce the sensitivity some of the Yaesu at 200 KHz. 
> 
> My analogy to folks is that it's like shining a bright flashlight in one eye while trying to see a candle at one mile. Pretty impossible to overcome the overload. 
> 
> tnx
> Mike / W5JR
> Alpharetta GA
> 
> sent via my HP95LX 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ya so if you put a bandpass filter on it, set to 3.2 dB insertion loss you'll get about 22 dB of reject 250 Khz off.  If you use two cans set each to 1.1 dB insertion loss each (totaling 2.2 dB) you'll see about 27 dB of reject. You could also put a notch filter on it for that one receive frequency, but you should check first to make sure you aren't getting into other gear at the site (if there is any). At 250 KHz I don't think you'd be able to take a duplexer notch / pass can and tune it to get any significant rejection. Sinclair says the Q201 (6 can duplexer) min freq spacing is 300 KHz. You'd might be able to get 30 dB out of 3 notch/pass cans series'd together, not sure.
>> 
>> To get an additional 30 dB of isolation (totaling 70 dB)  between the antennas you'll need to space them 3000 ft apart. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/horizsep.jpg
>> Vertical separation is better, you need about 100 ft to get 70 dB, maybe a little more. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/vertsep.jpg
>> 
>> 
>> +49 dBm (79W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 70 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about -19.5 dBm.  This probably still isn't enough, you'll probably still see some desense, but might be good enough to work, it'll just make it a little deaf.
>> 
>> Really you need to get it further then 240 Khz off freq. then you can get away with only one or two extra cans.
>> 
>> Jesse
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>>> k6ecm
>>> 73
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?
>>>> 
>>>> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that doesn't effect your receiver.
>>>> 
>>>> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter. It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your transmitter and receiver.
>>>> 
>>>> Jesse
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> k6ecm
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 03:28:43 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:28:43 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <CABYhhnq3L-cHy0vQK4pKU9an-Ty9qB-e8kHboR3UrOfvnrgxrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7347B26A-2ADC-4B42-82D1-7441BFC97584@gmail.com>
 <CABYhhnrDd5oG1+7MXv-ukGSnyT8dktQQpMGgvrRZ8Gj8onqoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <0F425BBE-E6AB-4F6D-BE33-DB8B152CC189@gmail.com>
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Understand. Good info. Learning a lot here from all.

Thanks,
Bob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ya so if you put a bandpass filter on it, set to 3.2 dB insertion loss you'll get about 22 dB of reject 250 Khz off.  If you use two cans set each to 1.1 dB insertion loss each (totaling 2.2 dB) you'll see about 27 dB of reject. You could also put a notch filter on it for that one receive frequency, but you should check first to make sure you aren't getting into other gear at the site (if there is any). At 250 KHz I don't think you'd be able to take a duplexer notch / pass can and tune it to get any significant rejection. Sinclair says the Q201 (6 can duplexer) min freq spacing is 300 KHz. You'd might be able to get 30 dB out of 3 notch/pass cans series'd together, not sure.
> 
> To get an additional 30 dB of isolation (totaling 70 dB)  between the antennas you'll need to space them 3000 ft apart. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/horizsep.jpg
> Vertical separation is better, you need about 100 ft to get 70 dB, maybe a little more. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/vertsep.jpg
> 
> 
> +49 dBm (79W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 70 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about -19.5 dBm.  This probably still isn't enough, you'll probably still see some desense, but might be good enough to work, it'll just make it a little deaf.
> 
> Really you need to get it further then 240 Khz off freq. then you can get away with only one or two extra cans.
> 
> Jesse
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> k6ecm
>> 73
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?
>>> 
>>> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that doesn't effect your receiver.
>>> 
>>> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter. It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your transmitter and receiver.
>>> 
>>> Jesse
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob
>>>> k6ecm
>>>> 73
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Fri Oct 13 11:05:44 2017
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 07:05:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <F8AAE039-7416-4D3E-8F8E-7FBEEAA5AE26@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710130654080.22605-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Bob,

I caught up on this thread, this morning. Is the Mastr II VHF HI or UHF?  
If VHF HIGH, do you know if it is a PLL-type direct FM exciter or the
earlier phasing-type, crystal multiplier variety?

Also, what type of sound device are you using for interfacing the RPi--a 
URI, RIM or homebrew board?

And, what type of Yaesu radio?  What types of antennas?? And, any 
differences in vertical height between the antennas?

When you're hearing the Mastr II 200+ khz from the TX frequency, is it 
only at certain, distinct spots or completely broadband?


73, David KB4FXC



On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, Bob Pyke wrote:

> Understand. Good info. Learning a lot here from all.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Ya so if you put a bandpass filter on it, set to 3.2 dB insertion loss you'll get about 22 dB of reject 250 Khz off.  If you use two cans set each to 1.1 dB insertion loss each (totaling 2.2 dB) you'll see about 27 dB of reject. You could also put a notch filter on it for that one receive frequency, but you should check first to make sure you aren't getting into other gear at the site (if there is any). At 250 KHz I don't think you'd be able to take a duplexer notch / pass can and tune it to get any significant rejection. Sinclair says the Q201 (6 can duplexer) min freq spacing is 300 KHz. You'd might be able to get 30 dB out of 3 notch/pass cans series'd together, not sure.
> > 
> > To get an additional 30 dB of isolation (totaling 70 dB)  between the antennas you'll need to space them 3000 ft apart. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/horizsep.jpg
> > Vertical separation is better, you need about 100 ft to get 70 dB, maybe a little more. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/vertsep.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > +49 dBm (79W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 70 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about -19.5 dBm.  This probably still isn't enough, you'll probably still see some desense, but might be good enough to work, it'll just make it a little deaf.
> > 
> > Really you need to get it further then 240 Khz off freq. then you can get away with only one or two extra cans.
> > 
> > Jesse
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bob
> >> k6ecm
> >> 73
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?
> >>> 
> >>> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that doesn't effect your receiver.
> >>> 
> >>> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter. It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your transmitter and receiver.
> >>> 
> >>> Jesse
> >>> 
> >>>  
> >>> 
> >>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Bob
> >>>> k6ecm
> >>>> 73
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 13 12:17:22 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 05:17:22 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710130654080.22605-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710130654080.22605-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <180B4A6B-00E5-498C-8BCE-689DA960FD2E@gmail.com>

Thanks David, See responses interspersed below.

Sent from iPad




Sent from iPad

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:05 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I caught up on this thread, this morning. Is the Mastr II VHF HI or UHF?  
> If VHF HIGH, do you know if it is a PLL-type direct FM exciter or the
> earlier phasing-type, crystal multiplier variety?
Local repeater is on 147.000, and the distant repeater is on 146.760. It's been awhile since I looked at the schematic, but I believe the latter. We have a Yeasu repeater (DR-1X on analog) offered to us, but I need to find notes on interfacing to Allstar.

> Also, what type of sound device are you using for interfacing the RPi--a 
> URI, RIM or homebrew board?
URIx

> And, what type of Yaesu radio?  What types of antennas?? And, any 
> differences in vertical height between the antennas?
FT-8900. Antennas are pretty much at co-elevation, about 150 ft apart, both setup as omni-directional (147.000 stacked dipoles, ~9 dbi, Yeasu 5/8 vertical). I just assembled a yagi for the Yeasu, which would point away from the 147.000, but I don't believe it will have enough rejection on the back side.

> When you're hearing the Mastr II 200+ khz from the TX frequency, is it 
> only at certain, distinct spots or completely broadband?
I've not checked that. When I use my SDR receiver, the 147.000 signal really blooms, which I'd expect even if properly modulated, and being in too high a field strength.

This all came about when I began looking for a quick solution to chicken link the two repeaters to see if folks would want them linked... inexpensive, and easy to do for a short term experiment (Ha!). I'm now expanding my considered solutions; one, a remote repeater already on Allstar owned by a friend, that I help maintain, and the other repeater is rf linked to the 146.760, which is reported to have a microwave link (Ubiquiti) that I may be able to link in an RPi Allstar node on-site (that will take some discussion with the owner). Allstar provides us with the ability to easily disconnect the two systems when necessary, and on a regular basis, for separate events. We (both repeater owner groups) are working to get coverage over a larger mountainous region.

Thanks,
Bob
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, Bob Pyke wrote:
>> 
>> Understand. Good info. Learning a lot here from all.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ya so if you put a bandpass filter on it, set to 3.2 dB insertion loss you'll get about 22 dB of reject 250 Khz off.  If you use two cans set each to 1.1 dB insertion loss each (totaling 2.2 dB) you'll see about 27 dB of reject. You could also put a notch filter on it for that one receive frequency, but you should check first to make sure you aren't getting into other gear at the site (if there is any). At 250 KHz I don't think you'd be able to take a duplexer notch / pass can and tune it to get any significant rejection. Sinclair says the Q201 (6 can duplexer) min freq spacing is 300 KHz. You'd might be able to get 30 dB out of 3 notch/pass cans series'd together, not sure.
>>> 
>>> To get an additional 30 dB of isolation (totaling 70 dB)  between the antennas you'll need to space them 3000 ft apart. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/horizsep.jpg
>>> Vertical separation is better, you need about 100 ft to get 70 dB, maybe a little more. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/vertsep.jpg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> +49 dBm (79W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 70 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about -19.5 dBm.  This probably still isn't enough, you'll probably still see some desense, but might be good enough to work, it'll just make it a little deaf.
>>> 
>>> Really you need to get it further then 240 Khz off freq. then you can get away with only one or two extra cans.
>>> 
>>> Jesse
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob
>>>> k6ecm
>>>> 73
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that doesn't effect your receiver.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter. It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your transmitter and receiver.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jesse
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> k6ecm
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
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>>>>> 
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From wangpengli at gmail.com  Sat Oct 14 02:08:22 2017
From: wangpengli at gmail.com (Wang Pengli)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 10:08:22 +0800
Subject: [App_rpt-users] =?utf-8?q?how_to_setup_rpi3_based_allstarlink_nod?=
	=?utf-8?q?e_=2Cfor_a_sip_phone_call_radio_=EF=BC=9F?=
Message-ID: <CANb4uSAZWCXjywqNYp=3=0hTk1A2Q1Eqou67K=j999WLs_59fA@mail.gmail.com>

I have setup a rpi3 + DMK'S URI + BF-888S for a allstarlink node, but is
not public of allstarlink , and I have config some sip account for a sip
phone(with 1001) and my linphone app (with 1002), I can call each other
with sip app and sip phone , but I want to call the radio from the sip
phone (or app)?how to config the asterisk and app_rpt for it?

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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sat Oct 14 11:38:16 2017
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 07:38:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <180B4A6B-00E5-498C-8BCE-689DA960FD2E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710140736460.22605-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Bob,

One more question in my barrage: In the 8900 RX, do you hear the carrier 
from the Mastr II TX even with no modulation?


73, David KB4FXC


On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Bob Pyke wrote:

> Thanks David, See responses interspersed below.

Sent from iPad




Sent from iPad

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:05 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I caught up on this thread, this morning. Is the Mastr II VHF HI or UHF?  
> If VHF HIGH, do you know if it is a PLL-type direct FM exciter or the
> earlier phasing-type, crystal multiplier variety?
Local repeater is on 147.000, and the distant repeater is on 146.760. It's been awhile since I looked at the schematic, but I believe the latter. We have a Yeasu repeater (DR-1X on analog) offered to us, but I need to find notes on interfacing to Allstar.

> Also, what type of sound device are you using for interfacing the RPi--a 
> URI, RIM or homebrew board?
URIx

> And, what type of Yaesu radio?  What types of antennas?? And, any 
> differences in vertical height between the antennas?
FT-8900. Antennas are pretty much at co-elevation, about 150 ft apart, both setup as omni-directional (147.000 stacked dipoles, ~9 dbi, Yeasu 5/8 vertical). I just assembled a yagi for the Yeasu, which would point away from the 147.000, but I don't believe it will have enough rejection on the back side.

> When you're hearing the Mastr II 200+ khz from the TX frequency, is it 
> only at certain, distinct spots or completely broadband?
I've not checked that. When I use my SDR receiver, the 147.000 signal really blooms, which I'd expect even if properly modulated, and being in too high a field strength.

This all came about when I began looking for a quick solution to chicken link the two repeaters to see if folks would want them linked... inexpensive, and easy to do for a short term experiment (Ha!). I'm now expanding my considered solutions; one, a remote repeater already on Allstar owned by a friend, that I help maintain, and the other repeater is rf linked to the 146.760, which is reported to have a microwave link (Ubiquiti) that I may be able to link in an RPi Allstar node on-site (that will take some discussion with the owner). Allstar provides us with the ability to easily disconnect the two systems when necessary, and on a regular basis, for separate events. We (both repeater owner groups) are working to get coverage over a larger mountainous region.

Thanks,
Bob
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, Bob Pyke wrote:
>> 
>> Understand. Good info. Learning a lot here from all.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ya so if you put a bandpass filter on it, set to 3.2 dB insertion loss you'll get about 22 dB of reject 250 Khz off.  If you use two cans set each to 1.1 dB insertion loss each (totaling 2.2 dB) you'll see about 27 dB of reject. You could also put a notch filter on it for that one receive frequency, but you should check first to make sure you aren't getting into other gear at the site (if there is any). At 250 KHz I don't think you'd be able to take a duplexer notch / pass can and tune it to get any significant rejection. Sinclair says the Q201 (6 can duplexer) min freq spacing is 300 KHz. You'd might be able to get 30 dB out of 3 notch/pass cans series'd together, not sure.
>>> 
>>> To get an additional 30 dB of isolation (totaling 70 dB)  between the antennas you'll need to space them 3000 ft apart. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/horizsep.jpg
>>> Vertical separation is better, you need about 100 ft to get 70 dB, maybe a little more. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/vertsep.jpg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> +49 dBm (79W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 70 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about -19.5 dBm.  This probably still isn't enough, you'll probably still see some desense, but might be good enough to work, it'll just make it a little deaf.
>>> 
>>> Really you need to get it further then 240 Khz off freq. then you can get away with only one or two extra cans.
>>> 
>>> Jesse
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob
>>>> k6ecm
>>>> 73
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that doesn't effect your receiver.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter. It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your transmitter and receiver.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jesse
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> k6ecm
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 15 05:42:34 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:42:34 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GE MASTR II Over Modulation?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710140736460.22605-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710140736460.22605-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <13BCCC56-8849-468C-9D57-904A8A6AB802@gmail.com>

Not sure if I would recognize it. The audio is understandable, and sounds echoy; bottom of the well like. I'll try it again.

Sent from iPad


> On Oct 14, 2017, at 4:38 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Bob,
> 
> One more question in my barrage: In the 8900 RX, do you hear the carrier 
> from the Mastr II TX even with no modulation?
> 
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017, Bob Pyke wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks David, See responses interspersed below.
> 
> Sent from iPad
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from iPad
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:05 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Bob,
>> 
>> I caught up on this thread, this morning. Is the Mastr II VHF HI or UHF?  
>> If VHF HIGH, do you know if it is a PLL-type direct FM exciter or the
>> earlier phasing-type, crystal multiplier variety?
> Local repeater is on 147.000, and the distant repeater is on 146.760. It's been awhile since I looked at the schematic, but I believe the latter. We have a Yeasu repeater (DR-1X on analog) offered to us, but I need to find notes on interfacing to Allstar.
> 
>> Also, what type of sound device are you using for interfacing the RPi--a 
>> URI, RIM or homebrew board?
> URIx
> 
>> And, what type of Yaesu radio?  What types of antennas?? And, any 
>> differences in vertical height between the antennas?
> FT-8900. Antennas are pretty much at co-elevation, about 150 ft apart, both setup as omni-directional (147.000 stacked dipoles, ~9 dbi, Yeasu 5/8 vertical). I just assembled a yagi for the Yeasu, which would point away from the 147.000, but I don't believe it will have enough rejection on the back side.
> 
>> When you're hearing the Mastr II 200+ khz from the TX frequency, is it 
>> only at certain, distinct spots or completely broadband?
> I've not checked that. When I use my SDR receiver, the 147.000 signal really blooms, which I'd expect even if properly modulated, and being in too high a field strength.
> 
> This all came about when I began looking for a quick solution to chicken link the two repeaters to see if folks would want them linked... inexpensive, and easy to do for a short term experiment (Ha!). I'm now expanding my considered solutions; one, a remote repeater already on Allstar owned by a friend, that I help maintain, and the other repeater is rf linked to the 146.760, which is reported to have a microwave link (Ubiquiti) that I may be able to link in an RPi Allstar node on-site (that will take some discussion with the owner). Allstar provides us with the ability to easily disconnect the two systems when necessary, and on a regular basis, for separate events. We (both repeater owner groups) are working to get coverage over a larger mountainous region.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
>> 
>> 73, David KB4FXC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, Bob Pyke wrote:
>>> 
>>> Understand. Good info. Learning a lot here from all.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ya so if you put a bandpass filter on it, set to 3.2 dB insertion loss you'll get about 22 dB of reject 250 Khz off.  If you use two cans set each to 1.1 dB insertion loss each (totaling 2.2 dB) you'll see about 27 dB of reject. You could also put a notch filter on it for that one receive frequency, but you should check first to make sure you aren't getting into other gear at the site (if there is any). At 250 KHz I don't think you'd be able to take a duplexer notch / pass can and tune it to get any significant rejection. Sinclair says the Q201 (6 can duplexer) min freq spacing is 300 KHz. You'd might be able to get 30 dB out of 3 notch/pass cans series'd together, not sure.
>>>> 
>>>> To get an additional 30 dB of isolation (totaling 70 dB)  between the antennas you'll need to space them 3000 ft apart. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/horizsep.jpg
>>>> Vertical separation is better, you need about 100 ft to get 70 dB, maybe a little more. http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/images/vertsep.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> +49 dBm (79W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 70 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about -19.5 dBm.  This probably still isn't enough, you'll probably still see some desense, but might be good enough to work, it'll just make it a little deaf.
>>>> 
>>>> Really you need to get it further then 240 Khz off freq. then you can get away with only one or two extra cans.
>>>> 
>>>> Jesse
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'm guessing 75-100 watts on the repeater PA. I can hear intelligible audio (sounds like it is in the bottom of a well) when listening to the other repeater, 240 kHz separation, on my Yeasu. I'm sure the modulation is correct for GE, established with the Allstar setup, but can check with my service monitor. I looked at it on my SDR receiver, and it looks like a lot of rf drive... perhaps just too close at about 150 ft.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> k6ecm
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bleeds over as in desensitizes the receivers or you can actually hear audio?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most modern receiver front-ends have minimal filtering, just a wide pass-band filter and the IF filters which reject the adjacent channels more then channels further off frequency.  If you have more than -30 dBm showing up on any antenna regardless of frequency spacing it'll probably cause problems.  150 ft is only ~45 dB of isolation, so if you're transmitting with +45 dBm (32W) less 2 dB of duplexer loss, less 2.5 for cable loss plus 3 dB for repeater antenna, less 45 dB of isolation plus 3 dB for rx antenna gives about +1.5 dBm which is definitely going to mess up a receiver unless more filtering is used.  You can play with filters to see what works, but I suspect you'll need two notch filters to get that down to something that doesn't effect your receiver.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You need to hook the system to a service analyzer and see if it's actually over modulating, it's doubtful unless you've injected audio after any limiter circuits. Running the math it's probably front-end overload, you'd be best to notch out the transmitter on the effected receivers, you may have to put a pass filter (and/or notch filter) on the transmitter too to remove some sideband noise as well, maybe not if it's a clean transmitter. It's usually a good idea to have balanced reject filtering on both your transmitter and receiver.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jesse
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Our RPi controlled radio has an rf spectrum so wide that it bleeds over in my Yeasu (150 feet between antennas) when I'm working a distant repeater that is more that 200 kHz away from our tx freq. Any suggestions where I can look for info on how to deal with this? Our duplexer is the notch type.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>> k6ecm
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Tue Oct 17 04:24:05 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 23:24:05 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL 8.5 Install
Message-ID: <1508214245.1746.3.camel@Project23D.com>

For those installing the DIAL 8.5 distro, it is confirmed to work on a
Dell Latitude D531. It has 2.5GB RAM, and I selected the 32bit install.

Might I suggest that new installs go through the firsttime setup
process, and then modify the asterisk conf files as you see fit.

Appears denying the firsttime and just copying config files (from an
machine whose HDD was making funny noises) does not work. Only nodes
that I had at the bottom of the rpt.conf would work.

... while the original install did work, and would register with ASL, I
could not connect to other nodes.

RTFM strikes again!

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ


From lengriff at optimum.net  Tue Oct 17 13:44:27 2017
From: lengriff at optimum.net (lengriff at optimum.net)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 09:44:27 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio Clicking
Message-ID: <59E60939.00004D.05940@LEAPER-PC>

The ETSNJ runs 2 repeaters on a Raspberry Pi using an ultra high speed SD-card. After a restart, the repeaters are fine for 2-3 weeks, then we begin hearing a clicking sound on the audio. As time goes on, this progresses until the clicking becomes brief audio interruptions. It seems like something is using up processor cycles, causing re-clocking of the audio stream. I know that clearing the log file helps, but the symptoms will still appear over time. I have been restarting Asterisk once a week to keep the audio clean, but there is still some audio dropouts at times. Does anyone have an idea about what could be causing this?


From N1XBM at amsat.org  Tue Oct 17 13:56:06 2017
From: N1XBM at amsat.org (Robert Newberry)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 09:56:06 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio Clicking
In-Reply-To: <59E60939.00004D.05940@LEAPER-PC>
References: <59E60939.00004D.05940@LEAPER-PC>
Message-ID: <CAM09xEYH-NBPOdYcx6ikoO4-e2sJ5gYASKGJJWp8_ZHNXi=75Q@mail.gmail.com>

I used to have this issue and I've posted here about it without a
resolution and the problem is exactly as you described. Here is what I can
tell you. I had this happen on two repeaters and here is what I had in
common.

1. Both running DSP (I was using software to generate PL)

2.  Older versions of software.

I have since upgraded software to latest version and I no longer use DSP
and use the repeaters internal PL. I never bothered trying to figure out
the problem any further. Mostly because I have interest less focused on
deployment of analog systems and doing the above steps gives me good audio.

N1XBM
Apparare Scientor
Paratus Communicare
Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657
www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 02:21:47 2017
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 19:21:47 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL 8.5 Install
In-Reply-To: <1508214245.1746.3.camel@Project23D.com>
References: <1508214245.1746.3.camel@Project23D.com>
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9uWfz5OXj46rL+7YZqjhKmt4tZSTPGDH88BN9yfO7K6zw@mail.gmail.com>

There's a new version 8.7.1, thanks to N4IRS, which can be downloaded from
the links here:

 http://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Main_Page#Related_Links

Only the install has changed, it asks more questions. Will allow static IP
during install if no DHCP is found.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Benjamin Naber <Benjamin at project23d.com>
wrote:

> For those installing the DIAL 8.5 distro, it is confirmed to work on a
> Dell Latitude D531. It has 2.5GB RAM, and I selected the 32bit install.
>
> Might I suggest that new installs go through the firsttime setup
> process, and then modify the asterisk conf files as you see fit.
>
> Appears denying the firsttime and just copying config files (from an
> machine whose HDD was making funny noises) does not work. Only nodes
> that I had at the bottom of the rpt.conf would work.
>
> ... while the original install did work, and would register with ASL, I
> could not connect to other nodes.
>
> RTFM strikes again!
>
> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
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From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Wed Oct 18 04:12:25 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 23:12:25 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] simpleusb-tune-menu
Message-ID: <1508299945.1746.5.camel@Project23D.com>

alright, so things did NOT go as planned with a fresh install.

This is the lovely message I get, and I got it once before, only to
have solved, if memory recalls, by doing a complete re-install. Of
which I do NOT want to do again.

I've had this issue in the past, in 2013, and the issue never got
solved.

FWIW, the URI was plugged in during the install and when running
firsttime.sh

asterisk -r
[Oct 17 22:52:16] NOTICE[6334]: app_rpt.c:22024 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 28569
[Oct 17 22:52:16] WARNING[6334]: app_rpt.c:22036 rpt_master: rpt_thread
restarted on node 28569
[Oct 17 22:52:16] WARNING[6366]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
[Oct 17 22:52:18] NOTICE[6334]: app_rpt.c:22024 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 28569
[Oct 17 22:52:18] WARNING[6334]: app_rpt.c:22036 rpt_master: rpt_thread
restarted on node 28569
[Oct 17 22:52:18] WARNING[6369]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
[Oct 17 22:52:20] NOTICE[6334]: app_rpt.c:22024 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 28569
[Oct 17 22:52:20] WARNING[6334]: app_rpt.c:22036 rpt_master: rpt_thread
restarted on node 28569
[Oct 17 22:52:20] WARNING[6370]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
[Oct 17 22:52:22] NOTICE[6334]: app_rpt.c:22024 rpt_master: RPT thread
restarted on 28569
[Oct 17 22:52:22] WARNING[6334]: app_rpt.c:22036 rpt_master: rpt_thread
restarted on node 28569
[Oct 17 22:52:22] WARNING[6373]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
[Oct 17 22:52:24] ERROR[6334]: app_rpt.c:22019 rpt_master: Continual
RPT thread restarts, killing Asterisk
repeater*CLI>?
Disconnected from Asterisk server


# simpleusb-tune-menu
Error parsing device parameters


# nano rpt.conf:
rxchannel=SimpleUSB/usb_28569
...

# nano simpleusb.conf:
; SimpleUSB configuration

[general]

[usb_28569]
...


I've tried simpleusb_tune_usb.conf and simpleusb_tune_usb_28569.conf
with and without contents.

Asterisk just dies, and tune menu does not start.

??????
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ





From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Wed Oct 18 04:41:51 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 23:41:51 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] simpleusb-tune-menu
In-Reply-To: <1508299945.1746.5.camel@Project23D.com>
References: <1508299945.1746.5.camel@Project23D.com>
Message-ID: <1508301711.1746.7.camel@Project23D.com>

Evidently, I failed to mention rpt.conf *had* two other pseudo nodes.

in a series of last ditch attempts (one more again! Dammit, does this
work? No?! WTF?! Let's try this! Not it either?! man....)

nodesetup.sh was run and configs were downloaded from the ASL portal.
Interesting to note that while 29314 is a DAHDI/pseudo node, there is
text for 29314 in simpleusb.conf. Um?

Yes, it works now, however, missing many line items in rpt.conf that
came with DIAL 8.5.

I would like to understand what simpleusb-tune-menu is looking for, and
what else changed in my particular case when configs were downloaded
from ASL portal versus what came stock with DIAL 8.5.

I'm tired, but we'll see what else I can break tomorrow.

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ

P.S. Almighty code maintainers, PLEASE do not take my lamenting as a
lack of dis-credit. You guys do significantly more than I can ever do,
so I sincerely say, "I am not worthy!"





On Tue, 2017-10-17 at 23:12 -0500, Benjamin Naber wrote:
> alright, so things did NOT go as planned with a fresh install.
> 
> This is the lovely message I get, and I got it once before, only to
> have solved, if memory recalls, by doing a complete re-install. Of
> which I do NOT want to do again.
> 
> I've had this issue in the past, in 2013, and the issue never got
> solved.
> 
> FWIW, the URI was plugged in during the install and when running
> firsttime.sh
> 
> asterisk -r
> [Oct 17 22:52:16] NOTICE[6334]: app_rpt.c:22024 rpt_master: RPT
> thread
> restarted on 28569
> [Oct 17 22:52:16] WARNING[6334]: app_rpt.c:22036 rpt_master:
> rpt_thread
> restarted on node 28569
> [Oct 17 22:52:16] WARNING[6366]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No
> channel
> type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
> [Oct 17 22:52:18] NOTICE[6334]: app_rpt.c:22024 rpt_master: RPT
> thread
> restarted on 28569
> [Oct 17 22:52:18] WARNING[6334]: app_rpt.c:22036 rpt_master:
> rpt_thread
> restarted on node 28569
> [Oct 17 22:52:18] WARNING[6369]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No
> channel
> type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
> [Oct 17 22:52:20] NOTICE[6334]: app_rpt.c:22024 rpt_master: RPT
> thread
> restarted on 28569
> [Oct 17 22:52:20] WARNING[6334]: app_rpt.c:22036 rpt_master:
> rpt_thread
> restarted on node 28569
> [Oct 17 22:52:20] WARNING[6370]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No
> channel
> type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
> [Oct 17 22:52:22] NOTICE[6334]: app_rpt.c:22024 rpt_master: RPT
> thread
> restarted on 28569
> [Oct 17 22:52:22] WARNING[6334]: app_rpt.c:22036 rpt_master:
> rpt_thread
> restarted on node 28569
> [Oct 17 22:52:22] WARNING[6373]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No
> channel
> type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
> [Oct 17 22:52:24] ERROR[6334]: app_rpt.c:22019 rpt_master: Continual
> RPT thread restarts, killing Asterisk
> repeater*CLI>?
> Disconnected from Asterisk server
> 
> 
> # simpleusb-tune-menu
> Error parsing device parameters
> 
> 
> # nano rpt.conf:
> rxchannel=SimpleUSB/usb_28569
> ...
> 
> # nano simpleusb.conf:
> ; SimpleUSB configuration
> 
> [general]
> 
> [usb_28569]
> ...
> 
> 
> I've tried simpleusb_tune_usb.conf and simpleusb_tune_usb_28569.conf
> with and without contents.
> 
> Asterisk just dies, and tune menu does not start.
> 
> ??????
> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
> 
> 
> 
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 18 04:56:26 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 00:56:26 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] simpleusb-tune-menu
In-Reply-To: <1508299945.1746.5.camel@Project23D.com>
References: <1508299945.1746.5.camel@Project23D.com>
Message-ID: <7e99aa72-51de-af6d-461e-58d98e6458af@bryanfields.net>

On 10/18/17 12:12 AM, Benjamin Naber wrote:
> [Oct 17 22:52:22] WARNING[6373]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel
> type registered for 'SimpleUSB'

Do you have it enabled in modules.conf ?

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From randy at neals.ca  Wed Oct 18 07:55:37 2017
From: randy at neals.ca (Randy Neals)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 00:55:37 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM
In-Reply-To: <008d01d2be4d$99f894d0$cde9be70$@com>
References: <CAGPaoUuPA85SrAXCUcT+BwyuBsaiWjQc7BrAFpxn3fwEn3bevw@mail.gmail.com>
 <B5A5E9BA-DB9C-4507-BBA7-08D6BCBB757C@moses.bz>
 <008d01d2be4d$99f894d0$cde9be70$@com>
Message-ID: <CAHDTD7pPS4DfVEeDh7kksDY0P-2-Hnxm7VxhYfB0Xk8BkP13=A@mail.gmail.com>

Looking for a pointer on where I can find current firmware for RTCMs?
Formerly the firmware was at http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/
voter/board-firmware/?root=svn
That link now seems dead.

Where would an RTCM owner find the latest firmware...

Thanks,
Randy
W3RWN


On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Mark Guibord <mark at micro-node.com> wrote:

> The RTCM uses a 16 bit DSP with a tightly integrated interrupt driven
> firmware package written in c
>
>
>
> http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/dsPIC33FJ128GP804
>
>
>
> If you're interested here is a link to the open-source software for the
> RTCM..
>
>
>
> http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-
> firmware/?root=svn
>
>
>
> *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Doug Kingston
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:41 PM
> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM
>
>
>
> I know that I would have a GPS with 1pps feed to get the timing.  Once you
> have that, what is different in an RTCM other than nice packaging?
>
> What is the core processor technology inside the RTCM.  I am assuming is
> some form of ARM processor.  Can you can you get a root shell and use SSH
> to access?
>
>
>
> -Doug-
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Fredric Moses <fred at moses.bz> wrote:
>
> You seem confused? you still need a linux system running app_rpt with the
> RTCM?s?  think of the RTCM as an ethernet based radio interface vs usb..
> But that radio interface when you add GPS to each one can do voting with
> others.. and with some more work simulcast transmitting?
>
> We have some 50-60 RTCM?s deployed and love them? Getting ready to rebuild
> another clubs VHF repeater voter system with a 6 site RTCM based voting
> system.  I just started testing the new hamvoip rPi3 image with some rtcm?s
> myself...
>
> --
> Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498
> fred at moses.bz
>
>
> > On Apr 25, 2017, at 22:32, Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org> wrote:
> >
> > I am considering using these for a amateur repeater voting application.
> The alternative would be to roll my own with a Raspberry Pi 3 and probably
> the HamVOIP.org distribution.  Who out there is using the RTCM?  I can find
> very little information beyond the manual and I am concerned that the
> software may not be maintained and that there is not enough access to the
> underlying Linux system.
> >
> > Who can tell me more about the RTCM?
> >
> > Has anyone rolled their own with a Pi3?  Any advice there?
> >
> > -Doug-
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
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From mark at micro-node.com  Wed Oct 18 08:23:32 2017
From: mark at micro-node.com (Mark Guibord)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 01:23:32 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM
In-Reply-To: <Nvvo1w0010UUS9J01vvpUe>
References: <CAGPaoUuPA85SrAXCUcT+BwyuBsaiWjQc7BrAFpxn3fwEn3bevw@mail.gmail.com>
 <B5A5E9BA-DB9C-4507-BBA7-08D6BCBB757C@moses.bz>
 <008d01d2be4d$99f894d0$cde9be70$@com> <Nvvo1w0010UUS9J01vvpUe>
Message-ID: <00da01d347ea$6310c880$29325980$@com>

Hi Randy,

 

Apparently they moved it send an email to Steve Zingman he is in charge of the migration. szingman at msgstor.com

 

Mark

 

From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:56 AM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM

 

Looking for a pointer on where I can find current firmware for RTCMs?
Formerly the firmware was at  <http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-firmware/?root=svn> http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-firmware/?root=svn
That link now seems dead.

Where would an RTCM owner find the latest firmware...

Thanks,
Randy
W3RWN

 

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Mark Guibord <mark at micro-node.com> wrote:

The RTCM uses a 16 bit DSP with a tightly integrated interrupt driven firmware package written in c 

 

http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/dsPIC33FJ128GP804

 

If you're interested here is a link to the open-source software for the RTCM.. 

 

http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-firmware/?root=svn

 

From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Doug Kingston
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:41 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM

 

I know that I would have a GPS with 1pps feed to get the timing.  Once you have that, what is different in an RTCM other than nice packaging?

What is the core processor technology inside the RTCM.  I am assuming is some form of ARM processor.  Can you can you get a root shell and use SSH to access?

 

-Doug-

 

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Fredric Moses <fred at moses.bz> wrote:

You seem confused? you still need a linux system running app_rpt with the RTCM?s?  think of the RTCM as an ethernet based radio interface vs usb.. But that radio interface when you add GPS to each one can do voting with others.. and with some more work simulcast transmitting?

We have some 50-60 RTCM?s deployed and love them? Getting ready to rebuild another clubs VHF repeater voter system with a 6 site RTCM based voting system.  I just started testing the new hamvoip rPi3 image with some rtcm?s myself...

--
Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498
fred at moses.bz


> On Apr 25, 2017, at 22:32, Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org> wrote:
>
> I am considering using these for a amateur repeater voting application.  The alternative would be to roll my own with a Raspberry Pi 3 and probably the HamVOIP.org distribution.  Who out there is using the RTCM?  I can find very little information beyond the manual and I am concerned that the software may not be maintained and that there is not enough access to the underlying Linux system.
>
> Who can tell me more about the RTCM?
>
> Has anyone rolled their own with a Pi3?  Any advice there?
>
> -Doug-

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From szingman at msgstor.com  Wed Oct 18 09:29:03 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:29:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM
In-Reply-To: <CAHDTD7pPS4DfVEeDh7kksDY0P-2-Hnxm7VxhYfB0Xk8BkP13=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGPaoUuPA85SrAXCUcT+BwyuBsaiWjQc7BrAFpxn3fwEn3bevw@mail.gmail.com>
 <B5A5E9BA-DB9C-4507-BBA7-08D6BCBB757C@moses.bz>
 <008d01d2be4d$99f894d0$cde9be70$@com>
 <CAHDTD7pPS4DfVEeDh7kksDY0P-2-Hnxm7VxhYfB0Xk8BkP13=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fe9f331d-b656-5584-1355-a482a3dc2bd5@msgstor.com>

<https://github.com/AllStarLink/voter/tree/master/board-firmware>

73, Steve N4IRS

On 10/18/2017 03:55 AM, Randy Neals wrote:
> Looking for a pointer on where I can find current firmware for RTCMs?
> Formerly the firmware was at 
> http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-firmware/?root=svn 
> <http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-firmware/?root=svn>
> That link now seems dead.
>
> Where would an RTCM owner find the latest firmware...
>
> Thanks,
> Randy
> W3RWN
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Mark Guibord <mark at micro-node.com 
> <mailto:mark at micro-node.com>> wrote:
>
>     The RTCM uses a 16 bit DSP with a tightly integrated interrupt
>     driven firmware package written in c
>
>     http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/dsPIC33FJ128GP804
>     <http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/dsPIC33FJ128GP804>
>
>     If you're interested here is a link to the open-source software
>     for the RTCM..
>
>     http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-firmware/?root=svn
>     <http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-firmware/?root=svn>
>
>     *From:*App_rpt-users
>     [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org
>     <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org>] *On Behalf
>     Of *Doug Kingston
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:41 PM
>     *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt
>     *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM
>
>     I know that I would have a GPS with 1pps feed to get the timing.?
>     Once you have that, what is different in an RTCM other than nice
>     packaging?
>
>     What is the core processor technology inside the RTCM.? I am
>     assuming is some form of ARM processor.? Can you can you get a
>     root shell and use SSH to access?
>
>     -Doug-
>
>     On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Fredric Moses <fred at moses.bz
>     <mailto:fred at moses.bz>> wrote:
>
>     You seem confused? you still need a linux system running app_rpt
>     with the RTCM?s?? think of the RTCM as an ethernet based radio
>     interface vs usb.. But that radio interface when you add GPS to
>     each one can do voting with others.. and with some more work
>     simulcast transmitting?
>
>     We have some 50-60 RTCM?s deployed and love them? Getting ready to
>     rebuild another clubs VHF repeater voter system with a 6 site RTCM
>     based voting system.? I just started testing the new hamvoip rPi3
>     image with some rtcm?s myself...
>
>     --
>     Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498
>     fred at moses.bz <mailto:fred at moses.bz>
>
>
>     > On Apr 25, 2017, at 22:32, Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org
>     <mailto:dpk at randomnotes.org>> wrote:
>     >
>     > I am considering using these for a amateur repeater voting
>     application. The alternative would be to roll my own with a
>     Raspberry Pi 3 and probably the HamVOIP.org distribution.? Who out
>     there is using the RTCM?? I can find very little information
>     beyond the manual and I am concerned that the software may not be
>     maintained and that there is not enough access to the underlying
>     Linux system.
>     >
>     > Who can tell me more about the RTCM?
>     >
>     > Has anyone rolled their own with a Pi3?? Any advice there?
>     >
>     > -Doug-
>
>     > _______________________________________________
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From k2dls at k2dls.net  Wed Oct 18 17:31:41 2017
From: k2dls at k2dls.net (Dan Srebnick)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 13:31:41 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Build Allstar on Raspbian Stretch?
Message-ID: <1508347901.885.15.camel@k2dls.net>

Has anyone successfully built Allstar on a fresh Debian Stretch?

My attempt fails on Dahdi:

Unpacking dahdi-linux-complete-dkms (2.10.2+2.10.2) over
(2.10.2+2.10.2) ...
Setting up dahdi-linux-complete-dkms (2.10.2+2.10.2) ...
Loading new dahdi-linux-complete-2.10.2+2.10.2 DKMS files...
It is likely that 4.9.56+ belongs to a chroot's host
Building for 3.6-trunk-rpi, 4.9.41+, 4.9.41-v7+, 4.9.56+ and 4.9.56-v7+
Building for architecture armhf
Building initial module for 3.6-trunk-rpi
Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.6-trunk-rpi
(armhf)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/dahdi-linux-complete/2.10.2+2.10.2/build/make.log 
for more information.

The failure may have something to do with gcc treating warnings as
errors by default.

Unpacking dahdi-linux-complete-dkms (2.10.2+2.10.2) over
(2.10.2+2.10.2) ...
Setting up dahdi-linux-complete-dkms (2.10.2+2.10.2) ...
Loading new dahdi-linux-complete-2.10.2+2.10.2 DKMS files...
It is likely that 4.9.56+ belongs to a chroot's host
Building for 3.6-trunk-rpi, 4.9.41+, 4.9.41-v7+, 4.9.56+ and 4.9.56-v7+
Building for architecture armhf
Building initial module for 3.6-trunk-rpi
Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.6-trunk-rpi
(armhf)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/dahdi-linux-complete/2.10.2+2.10.2/build/make.log 
for more information.


cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
<builtin>: recipe for target 'astribank_usb.o' failed
make[2]: *** [astribank_usb.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/dahdi-linux-
complete/2.10.2+2.10.2/build/tools/xpp'
Makefile:138: recipe for target 'utils-subdirs' failed
make[1]: *** [utils-subdirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/dahdi-linux-
complete/2.10.2+2.10.2/build/tools'
Makefile:9: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2


gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
COLLECT_GCC=gcc
COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/6/lto-wrapper
Target: arm-linux-gnueabihf
Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Raspbian 6.3.0-
18+rpi1' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-6/README.Bugs --
enable-languages=c,ada,c++,java,go,d,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr 
--program-suffix=-6 --program-prefix=arm-linux-gnueabihf- --enable-
shared --enable-linker-build-id --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-
included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-nls
--with-sysroot=/ --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --
enable-libstdcxx-time=yes --with-default-libstdcxx-abi=new --enable-
gnu-unique-object --disable-libitm --disable-libquadmath --enable-
plugin --with-system-zlib --disable-browser-plugin --enable-java-
awt=gtk --enable-gtk-cairo --with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-
gcj-6-armhf/jre --enable-java-home --with-jvm-root-
dir=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-6-armhf --with-jvm-jar-
dir=/usr/lib/jvm-exports/java-1.5.0-gcj-6-armhf --with-arch-
directory=arm --with-ecj-jar=/usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar --with-
target-system-zlib --enable-objc-gc=auto --enable-multiarch --disable-
sjlj-exceptions --with-arch=armv6 --with-fpu=vfp --with-float=hard --
enable-checking=release --build=arm-linux-gnueabihf --host=arm-linux-
gnueabihf --target=arm-linux-gnueabihf
Thread model: posix
gcc version 6.3.0 20170516 (Raspbian 6.3.0-18+rpi1) 


From randy at neals.ca  Wed Oct 18 20:04:12 2017
From: randy at neals.ca (Randy Neals)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 13:04:12 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM
In-Reply-To: <fe9f331d-b656-5584-1355-a482a3dc2bd5@msgstor.com>
References: <CAGPaoUuPA85SrAXCUcT+BwyuBsaiWjQc7BrAFpxn3fwEn3bevw@mail.gmail.com>
 <B5A5E9BA-DB9C-4507-BBA7-08D6BCBB757C@moses.bz>
 <008d01d2be4d$99f894d0$cde9be70$@com>
 <CAHDTD7pPS4DfVEeDh7kksDY0P-2-Hnxm7VxhYfB0Xk8BkP13=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <fe9f331d-b656-5584-1355-a482a3dc2bd5@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <CAHDTD7pe4PGsemTadRdD8Z9ucPGwnmBoPXEZcFLyj1n81+QjfA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Mark & Steve!

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> <https://github.com/AllStarLink/voter/tree/master/board-firmware>
> <https://github.com/AllStarLink/voter/tree/master/board-firmware>
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
>
> On 10/18/2017 03:55 AM, Randy Neals wrote:
>
> Looking for a pointer on where I can find current firmware for RTCMs?
> Formerly the firmware was at http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/
> allstar/voter/board-firmware/?root=svn
> That link now seems dead.
>
> Where would an RTCM owner find the latest firmware...
>
> Thanks,
> Randy
> W3RWN
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Mark Guibord <mark at micro-node.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The RTCM uses a 16 bit DSP with a tightly integrated interrupt driven
>> firmware package written in c
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/dsPIC33FJ128GP804
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're interested here is a link to the open-source software for the
>> RTCM..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/voter/board-f
>> irmware/?root=svn
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Doug Kingston
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:41 PM
>> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt
>> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Micro-Node RTCM
>>
>>
>>
>> I know that I would have a GPS with 1pps feed to get the timing.  Once
>> you have that, what is different in an RTCM other than nice packaging?
>>
>> What is the core processor technology inside the RTCM.  I am assuming is
>> some form of ARM processor.  Can you can you get a root shell and use SSH
>> to access?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Doug-
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Fredric Moses <fred at moses.bz> wrote:
>>
>> You seem confused? you still need a linux system running app_rpt with the
>> RTCM?s?  think of the RTCM as an ethernet based radio interface vs usb..
>> But that radio interface when you add GPS to each one can do voting with
>> others.. and with some more work simulcast transmitting?
>>
>> We have some 50-60 RTCM?s deployed and love them? Getting ready to
>> rebuild another clubs VHF repeater voter system with a 6 site RTCM based
>> voting system.  I just started testing the new hamvoip rPi3 image with some
>> rtcm?s myself...
>>
>> --
>> Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498
>> fred at moses.bz
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 25, 2017, at 22:32, Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am considering using these for a amateur repeater voting
>> application.  The alternative would be to roll my own with a Raspberry Pi 3
>> and probably the HamVOIP.org distribution.  Who out there is using the
>> RTCM?  I can find very little information beyond the manual and I am
>> concerned that the software may not be maintained and that there is not
>> enough access to the underlying Linux system.
>> >
>> > Who can tell me more about the RTCM?
>> >
>> > Has anyone rolled their own with a Pi3?  Any advice there?
>> >
>> > -Doug-
>>
>> > _______________________________________________
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From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Wed Oct 18 20:58:25 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 15:58:25 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] simpleusb-tune-menu
In-Reply-To: <7e99aa72-51de-af6d-461e-58d98e6458af@bryanfields.net>
References: <1508299945.1746.5.camel@Project23D.com>
 <7e99aa72-51de-af6d-461e-58d98e6458af@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <1508360305.1746.9.camel@Project23D.com>

Bryan,

I already nuked whatever was there with the config download from ASL
portal.

I will definitely keep your suggestion in the back pocket.

Very interesting.

After writing the the above line, I discovered I did save the stock
DIAL 8.5 asterisk configs:
$ nano modules.conf
...
noload => chan_simpleusb.so
...


Curious though, why would simpleusb NOT be loaded by default. USBradio
was not enabled either, as usbradio-tune-menu did not work.


Smart man, Bryan. 2.5 points for you, haha!
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ



On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 00:56 -0400, Bryan Fields wrote:
> On 10/18/17 12:12 AM, Benjamin Naber wrote:
> > [Oct 17 22:52:22] WARNING[6373]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No
> > channel
> > type registered for 'SimpleUSB'
> 
> Do you have it enabled in modules.conf ?
> 


From k2dls at k2dls.net  Thu Oct 19 06:13:40 2017
From: k2dls at k2dls.net (Dan Srebnick)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 02:13:40 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Build Allstar on Raspbian Stretch?
In-Reply-To: <1508347901.885.15.camel@k2dls.net>
References: <1508347901.885.15.camel@k2dls.net>
Message-ID: <1508393620.12153.8.camel@k2dls.net>

Turned out to be a header issue.  The current kernel does not have a
corresponding header package, rather it has to be fetched via git.


On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 13:31 -0400, Dan Srebnick wrote:
> Has anyone successfully built Allstar on a fresh Debian Stretch?
> 
> My attempt fails on Dahdi:
> 
> Unpacking dahdi-linux-complete-dkms (2.10.2+2.10.2) over
> (2.10.2+2.10.2) ...
> Setting up dahdi-linux-complete-dkms (2.10.2+2.10.2) ...
> Loading new dahdi-linux-complete-2.10.2+2.10.2 DKMS files...
> It is likely that 4.9.56+ belongs to a chroot's host
> Building for 3.6-trunk-rpi, 4.9.41+, 4.9.41-v7+, 4.9.56+ and 4.9.56-
> v7+
> Building for architecture armhf
> Building initial module for 3.6-trunk-rpi
> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.6-trunk-rpi
> (armhf)
> Consult /var/lib/dkms/dahdi-linux-
> complete/2.10.2+2.10.2/build/make.log 
> for more information.
> 
> The failure may have something to do with gcc treating warnings as
> errors by default.
> 
> Unpacking dahdi-linux-complete-dkms (2.10.2+2.10.2) over
> (2.10.2+2.10.2) ...
> Setting up dahdi-linux-complete-dkms (2.10.2+2.10.2) ...
> Loading new dahdi-linux-complete-2.10.2+2.10.2 DKMS files...
> It is likely that 4.9.56+ belongs to a chroot's host
> Building for 3.6-trunk-rpi, 4.9.41+, 4.9.41-v7+, 4.9.56+ and 4.9.56-
> v7+
> Building for architecture armhf
> Building initial module for 3.6-trunk-rpi
> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.6-trunk-rpi
> (armhf)
> Consult /var/lib/dkms/dahdi-linux-
> complete/2.10.2+2.10.2/build/make.log 
> for more information.
> 
> 
> cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
> <builtin>: recipe for target 'astribank_usb.o' failed
> make[2]: *** [astribank_usb.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/dahdi-linux-
> complete/2.10.2+2.10.2/build/tools/xpp'
> Makefile:138: recipe for target 'utils-subdirs' failed
> make[1]: *** [utils-subdirs] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/dahdi-linux-
> complete/2.10.2+2.10.2/build/tools'
> Makefile:9: recipe for target 'all' failed
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> 
> 
> gcc -v
> Using built-in specs.
> COLLECT_GCC=gcc
> COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/6/lto-wrapper
> Target: arm-linux-gnueabihf
> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Raspbian
> 6.3.0-
> 18+rpi1' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-6/README.Bugs --
> enable-languages=c,ada,c++,java,go,d,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --
> prefix=/usr 
> --program-suffix=-6 --program-prefix=arm-linux-gnueabihf- --enable-
> shared --enable-linker-build-id --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-
> included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-
> nls
> --with-sysroot=/ --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --
> enable-libstdcxx-time=yes --with-default-libstdcxx-abi=new --enable-
> gnu-unique-object --disable-libitm --disable-libquadmath --enable-
> plugin --with-system-zlib --disable-browser-plugin --enable-java-
> awt=gtk --enable-gtk-cairo --with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-
> gcj-6-armhf/jre --enable-java-home --with-jvm-root-
> dir=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-6-armhf --with-jvm-jar-
> dir=/usr/lib/jvm-exports/java-1.5.0-gcj-6-armhf --with-arch-
> directory=arm --with-ecj-jar=/usr/share/java/eclipse-ecj.jar --with-
> target-system-zlib --enable-objc-gc=auto --enable-multiarch --
> disable-
> sjlj-exceptions --with-arch=armv6 --with-fpu=vfp --with-float=hard --
> enable-checking=release --build=arm-linux-gnueabihf --host=arm-linux-
> gnueabihf --target=arm-linux-gnueabihf
> Thread model: posix
> gcc version 6.3.0 20170516 (Raspbian 6.3.0-18+rpi1) 
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From electricity440 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 22 19:39:55 2017
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 13:39:55 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration
Message-ID: <CAJNyT0925gdUXbL478_DfqaGHZh5OBqU+4KdVj0vSvfP7aYNrQ@mail.gmail.com>

For one voted site, we are using a Motorola Maxtrac 900 and for the master
we are using a quantar receiver.

Unfortunately, the RSSI levels don't really mean the same thing between the
two receivers. The Maxtrac Voter will be almost full quieting and then the
Quantar will pick it up relatively very noisy.

I know it is not the best idea to use two separate models of receivers for
voting, but other then the signal strength, the audio seems to sound the
same. The problem with the Quantar is that it is a "Virtual Discriminator
Audio" which needed BEW mode on the RTCM to be enabled and that is what
seems like is messing up the measurements.

Is there a way to tune these RSSI levels so the perceived signal strength
has the same correlation on the numbers 0 - 255.

In addition, we would like to disable the master receiver at some points,
like only have the voter turned on for receive just to test it's coverage.
Is this possible?

Thank you,
Skyler
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From neil at ohiogray.org  Mon Oct 23 01:41:44 2017
From: neil at ohiogray.org (Neil H. Gray)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:41:44 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Help on using CTCSS with usbradio.conf
Message-ID: <52025119-57a6-d300-319c-eb1861a9422a@ohiogray.org>

To Whom It May Concern,

I am trying to get a DMK URIx working with a BridgeCOM repeater using 
the usbradio.conf to provide CTCSS decode/encode and am having no success.

I can confirm that a received FM signals get repeated, and the allstar 
configuration also appears to be working.? However any configuration 
related to CTCSS does not work at all.

I can confirm that the CTCSS tone is present with the input audio being 
fed to the URIx, but none of the relevant settings in usbradio.conf(e.g. 
rxctcssfreqs, ctcssfrom = dsp) seem to have any effect.

Adjusting the carrierfrom parameter in usbradio.conf has the expected 
results.? The COR signal comes to the URIx from the repeater and 
functions correctly with carrierfrom set to usbinvert.? At least with 
this I can confirm that apt_rpt is using usbradio.conf rather than 
simpleusb.conf.

While I have tested the hardware, I have not tried looking at the 
software beyond glancing through the source code to get a rough idea of 
the layout of apt_rpt.

Could anyone offer a working configuration example on CTCSS, or perhaps 
give debugging hints?

I can handle a debugger but am not sure of a good way to debug a program 
that operates on signals in real time.


Thanks in advance,

Neil



From szingman at msgstor.com  Mon Oct 23 01:47:03 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:47:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Help on using CTCSS with usbradio.conf
In-Reply-To: <52025119-57a6-d300-319c-eb1861a9422a@ohiogray.org>
References: <52025119-57a6-d300-319c-eb1861a9422a@ohiogray.org>
Message-ID: <38e8040b-e64c-44f4-2344-9f903de4a503@msgstor.com>

See if this helps:

txctcssdefault = 123.0??? ; default tx ctcss freq, any frequency permitted

rxctcssfreqs = 123.0??? ; rx ctcss freqs in floating point. must be in table

txctcssfreqs = 123.0??? ; tx ctcss freqs, any frequency permitted
; rxctcssoverride = 0??? ; Set to 1 or yes to start out in carrier 
squelch mode

carrierfrom = dsp??? ; no,usb,usbinvert,dsp,vox
 ??? ??? ??? ; no - no carrier detection at all
 ??? ??? ??? ; usb - from the COR line on the modified USB sound fob
 ??? ??? ??? ; usbinvert - from the inverted COR line on the modified 
USB sound fob
 ??? ??? ??? ; dsp - from RX noise using dsp techniques
 ??? ??? ??? ; vox - voice activated from RX audio

ctcssfrom = dsp??? ??? ; no,usb,dsp
 ??? ??? ??? ; no - CTCSS decoding, system will be carrier squelch
 ??? ??? ??? ; usb - CTCSS decoding using input from USB FOB
 ??? ??? ??? ; (currently not supported)
 ??? ??? ??? ; dsp - CTCSS decoding using RX audio in DSP.
 ??? ??? ??? ; rxdemod option must be set to flat for this to work.

rxdemod = flat??????????? ; input type from radio: no,speaker,flat
 ??? ??? ??? ; no - RX audio input not used
 ??? ??? ??? ; flat - Use RX audio from discriminator (before de-emphasis)
 ??? ??? ??? ; speaker - use de-emphasized audio

txprelim = yes??? ??? ; Audio processing on left output channel: no,yes
 ??? ??? ??? ; no - Audio is not pre-emphasized and limited.
 ??? ??? ??? ; Suitable for use on a microphone input
 ??? ??? ??? ; yes - Audio is pre-emphasized and limited.
 ??? ??? ??? ; Suitable for direct connection to an FM modulator

txlimonly = no??? ??? ; Audio limiting with no pre-emphasis on output 
channel: no,yes
 ??? ??? ??? ; no - Audio is not limited.
 ??? ??? ??? ; yes - Audio is? limited.
 ??? ??? ??? ; Suitable for transmitters with no limiting but with 
pre-emphasis.

txtoctype = phase??? ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone
 ??? ??? ??? ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time
 ??? ??? ??? ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase
 ??? ??? ??? ; AKA ("reverse burst") before unkeying TX
 ??? ??? ??? ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before 
unkeying TX
 ??? ??? ??? ; AKA ("chicken burst")

txmixa = no??? ??? ; Left channel output: no,voice,tone,composite,auxvoice
 ??? ??? ??? ; no - Do not output anything
 ??? ??? ??? ; voice - output voice only
 ??? ??? ??? ; tone - CTCSS tone only
 ??? ??? ??? ; composite - voice and tone
 ??? ??? ??? ; auxvoice - auxiliary voice output at headphone level for 
monitoring

txmixb = composite??? ; Right channel output: no,voice,tone,composite, 
auxvoice
 ??? ??? ??? ; See txmixa above.



On 10/22/2017 09:41 PM, Neil H. Gray wrote:
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
> I am trying to get a DMK URIx working with a BridgeCOM repeater using 
> the usbradio.conf to provide CTCSS decode/encode and am having no 
> success.
>
> I can confirm that a received FM signals get repeated, and the allstar 
> configuration also appears to be working.? However any configuration 
> related to CTCSS does not work at all.
>
> I can confirm that the CTCSS tone is present with the input audio 
> being fed to the URIx, but none of the relevant settings in 
> usbradio.conf(e.g. rxctcssfreqs, ctcssfrom = dsp) seem to have any 
> effect.
>
> Adjusting the carrierfrom parameter in usbradio.conf has the expected 
> results.? The COR signal comes to the URIx from the repeater and 
> functions correctly with carrierfrom set to usbinvert.? At least with 
> this I can confirm that apt_rpt is using usbradio.conf rather than 
> simpleusb.conf.
>
> While I have tested the hardware, I have not tried looking at the 
> software beyond glancing through the source code to get a rough idea 
> of the layout of apt_rpt.
>
> Could anyone offer a working configuration example on CTCSS, or 
> perhaps give debugging hints?
>
> I can handle a debugger but am not sure of a good way to debug a 
> program that operates on signals in real time.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Neil
>
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 02:38:23 2017
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:38:23 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration
In-Reply-To: <CAJNyT0925gdUXbL478_DfqaGHZh5OBqU+4KdVj0vSvfP7aYNrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0925gdUXbL478_DfqaGHZh5OBqU+4KdVj0vSvfP7aYNrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9sJg58zyYDwNUNxs2kb7cPUSzQODYt57OOppgVnkZJVEg@mail.gmail.com>

Some things to consider:

 - Install JP1 on the Quantar's RTCM. The squelch should calibrate at
around 4 blinks rather than the 12 blinks or so without JP1.

 - Be sure you've done the diode and squelch calibration with the actual
attached radio (no antenna).

 - The Quantar firmware should be 20.14.48 as later versions have better
noise output.

 - Try the "Chuck Squelch" RTCM version. They say it's better. I'm not sure
I can tell the difference.

 - Each RTCM should have 3 to 5 turns past threshold to prevent the squelch
form being too loose. Somewhere around the 350 level seems about right.
Chuck Squelch seems to need fewer turns but YMMV.

 - Don't "and" CTCSS with squelch. That may override the RTCM's squelch
detection. Compare with CTCSS on and off to see effect if any.

 - See our new wiki.allstarlink.org. There's a lot of good RTCM information
there.

Hope this helps.

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com> wrote:

> For one voted site, we are using a Motorola Maxtrac 900 and for the master
> we are using a quantar receiver.
>
> Unfortunately, the RSSI levels don't really mean the same thing between
> the two receivers. The Maxtrac Voter will be almost full quieting and then
> the Quantar will pick it up relatively very noisy.
>
> I know it is not the best idea to use two separate models of receivers for
> voting, but other then the signal strength, the audio seems to sound the
> same. The problem with the Quantar is that it is a "Virtual Discriminator
> Audio" which needed BEW mode on the RTCM to be enabled and that is what
> seems like is messing up the measurements.
>
> Is there a way to tune these RSSI levels so the perceived signal strength
> has the same correlation on the numbers 0 - 255.
>
> In addition, we would like to disable the master receiver at some points,
> like only have the voter turned on for receive just to test it's coverage.
> Is this possible?
>
> Thank you,
> Skyler
>
> _______________________________________________
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> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From keith at goobie.org  Mon Oct 23 13:55:59 2017
From: keith at goobie.org (Keith Goobie)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:55:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Help on using CTCSS with usbradio.conf
In-Reply-To: <38e8040b-e64c-44f4-2344-9f903de4a503@msgstor.com>
References: <52025119-57a6-d300-319c-eb1861a9422a@ohiogray.org>
 <38e8040b-e64c-44f4-2344-9f903de4a503@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <582091C9-4E72-40B6-A5D4-070911914B19@goobie.org>


Neil

We have a Bridgecom 220 repeater hooked to an RLC-DSP404.  Guidance regarding connectivity can be gained from -

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0833/9095/files/BCR_Repeater_to_URI.pdf?7576387813378094434

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0833/9095/files/BCR_to_RLC_Pinout_Diagram_b06dbd28-8f77-439b-9a74-3adc552f93a3.pdf?9343440214198702669

Between these two documents, you should be able to connect things together.

Keith

> On Oct 22, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
> 
> See if this helps:
> 
> txctcssdefault = 123.0    ; default tx ctcss freq, any frequency permitted
> 
> rxctcssfreqs = 123.0    ; rx ctcss freqs in floating point. must be in table
> 
> txctcssfreqs = 123.0    ; tx ctcss freqs, any frequency permitted
> ; rxctcssoverride = 0    ; Set to 1 or yes to start out in carrier squelch mode
> 
> carrierfrom = dsp    ; no,usb,usbinvert,dsp,vox
>             ; no - no carrier detection at all
>             ; usb - from the COR line on the modified USB sound fob
>             ; usbinvert - from the inverted COR line on the modified USB sound fob
>             ; dsp - from RX noise using dsp techniques
>             ; vox - voice activated from RX audio
> 
> ctcssfrom = dsp        ; no,usb,dsp
>             ; no - CTCSS decoding, system will be carrier squelch
>             ; usb - CTCSS decoding using input from USB FOB
>             ; (currently not supported)
>             ; dsp - CTCSS decoding using RX audio in DSP.
>             ; rxdemod option must be set to flat for this to work.
> 
> rxdemod = flat            ; input type from radio: no,speaker,flat
>             ; no - RX audio input not used
>             ; flat - Use RX audio from discriminator (before de-emphasis)
>             ; speaker - use de-emphasized audio
> 
> txprelim = yes        ; Audio processing on left output channel: no,yes
>             ; no - Audio is not pre-emphasized and limited.
>             ; Suitable for use on a microphone input
>             ; yes - Audio is pre-emphasized and limited.
>             ; Suitable for direct connection to an FM modulator
> 
> txlimonly = no        ; Audio limiting with no pre-emphasis on output channel: no,yes
>             ; no - Audio is not limited.
>             ; yes - Audio is  limited.
>             ; Suitable for transmitters with no limiting but with pre-emphasis.
> 
> txtoctype = phase    ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone
>             ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time
>             ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase
>             ; AKA ("reverse burst") before unkeying TX
>             ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX
>             ; AKA ("chicken burst")
> 
> txmixa = no        ; Left channel output: no,voice,tone,composite,auxvoice
>             ; no - Do not output anything
>             ; voice - output voice only
>             ; tone - CTCSS tone only
>             ; composite - voice and tone
>             ; auxvoice - auxiliary voice output at headphone level for monitoring
> 
> txmixb = composite    ; Right channel output: no,voice,tone,composite, auxvoice
>             ; See txmixa above.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/22/2017 09:41 PM, Neil H. Gray wrote:
>> To Whom It May Concern,
>> 
>> I am trying to get a DMK URIx working with a BridgeCOM repeater using the usbradio.conf to provide CTCSS decode/encode and am having no success.
>> 
>> I can confirm that a received FM signals get repeated, and the allstar configuration also appears to be working.  However any configuration related to CTCSS does not work at all.
>> 
>> I can confirm that the CTCSS tone is present with the input audio being fed to the URIx, but none of the relevant settings in usbradio.conf(e.g. rxctcssfreqs, ctcssfrom = dsp) seem to have any effect.
>> 
>> Adjusting the carrierfrom parameter in usbradio.conf has the expected results.  The COR signal comes to the URIx from the repeater and functions correctly with carrierfrom set to usbinvert.  At least with this I can confirm that apt_rpt is using usbradio.conf rather than simpleusb.conf.
>> 
>> While I have tested the hardware, I have not tried looking at the software beyond glancing through the source code to get a rough idea of the layout of apt_rpt.
>> 
>> Could anyone offer a working configuration example on CTCSS, or perhaps give debugging hints?
>> 
>> I can handle a debugger but am not sure of a good way to debug a program that operates on signals in real time.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Neil
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> 
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> 
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From w8khw1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 15:06:00 2017
From: w8khw1 at gmail.com (Kevin Walsh)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:06:00 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration
In-Reply-To: <CAG3ht9sJg58zyYDwNUNxs2kb7cPUSzQODYt57OOppgVnkZJVEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0925gdUXbL478_DfqaGHZh5OBqU+4KdVj0vSvfP7aYNrQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG3ht9sJg58zyYDwNUNxs2kb7cPUSzQODYt57OOppgVnkZJVEg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F87C9C33-4ECA-4AA2-B8EB-F572028B719D@gmail.com>

Wow Tim, the Wiki is really taking shape! The section on the RTCM is fantastic. A huge Thank You to you and all who have contributed.

Kevin
W8KHW

> On Oct 22, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Some things to consider:
> 
>  - Install JP1 on the Quantar's RTCM. The squelch should calibrate at around 4 blinks rather than the 12 blinks or so without JP1.
> 
>  - Be sure you've done the diode and squelch calibration with the actual attached radio (no antenna). 
> 
>  - The Quantar firmware should be 20.14.48 as later versions have better noise output. 
> 
>  - Try the "Chuck Squelch" RTCM version. They say it's better. I'm not sure I can tell the difference.
> 
>  - Each RTCM should have 3 to 5 turns past threshold to prevent the squelch form being too loose. Somewhere around the 350 level seems about right. Chuck Squelch seems to need fewer turns but YMMV.
> 
>  - Don't "and" CTCSS with squelch. That may override the RTCM's squelch detection. Compare with CTCSS on and off to see effect if any.
> 
>  - See our new wiki.allstarlink.org. There's a lot of good RTCM information there.
> 
> Hope this helps. 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Skyler F <electricity440 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> For one voted site, we are using a Motorola Maxtrac 900 and for the master we are using a quantar receiver. 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, the RSSI levels don't really mean the same thing between the two receivers. The Maxtrac Voter will be almost full quieting and then the Quantar will pick it up relatively very noisy. 
>> 
>> I know it is not the best idea to use two separate models of receivers for voting, but other then the signal strength, the audio seems to sound the same. The problem with the Quantar is that it is a "Virtual Discriminator Audio" which needed BEW mode on the RTCM to be enabled and that is what seems like is messing up the measurements. 
>> 
>> Is there a way to tune these RSSI levels so the perceived signal strength has the same correlation on the numbers 0 - 255. 
>> 
>> In addition, we would like to disable the master receiver at some points, like only have the voter turned on for receive just to test it's coverage. Is this possible? 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Skyler
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> 
>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> --
> Tim
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Mon Oct 23 23:22:19 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:22:19 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration
In-Reply-To: <F87C9C33-4ECA-4AA2-B8EB-F572028B719D@gmail.com>
References: <CAJNyT0925gdUXbL478_DfqaGHZh5OBqU+4KdVj0vSvfP7aYNrQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG3ht9sJg58zyYDwNUNxs2kb7cPUSzQODYt57OOppgVnkZJVEg@mail.gmail.com>
 <F87C9C33-4ECA-4AA2-B8EB-F572028B719D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6a1f8ee2-ba33-49bf-4b9b-f5ac1b00e47a@bryanfields.net>

On 10/23/17 11:06 AM, Kevin Walsh wrote:
> A huge */Thank You/* to you and all who have contributed.

If you can't code, but you can write docs, please request an account.  We
don't have it locked down to require an account for any reason other than
keeping spam out of it.

It's easy to write docs on it and anyone can get an account an help.

73's
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From electricity440 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 00:35:55 2017
From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:35:55 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration
In-Reply-To: <6a1f8ee2-ba33-49bf-4b9b-f5ac1b00e47a@bryanfields.net>
References: <CAJNyT0925gdUXbL478_DfqaGHZh5OBqU+4KdVj0vSvfP7aYNrQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG3ht9sJg58zyYDwNUNxs2kb7cPUSzQODYt57OOppgVnkZJVEg@mail.gmail.com>
 <F87C9C33-4ECA-4AA2-B8EB-F572028B719D@gmail.com>
 <6a1f8ee2-ba33-49bf-4b9b-f5ac1b00e47a@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CAJNyT08bD8HK84az5DbszO7oVSo=fVDaAv_Y9StLyFK74O3zpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks! i'll have to create a wiki account and help out there


Skyler

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

> On 10/23/17 11:06 AM, Kevin Walsh wrote:
> > A huge */Thank You/* to you and all who have contributed.
>
> If you can't code, but you can write docs, please request an account.  We
> don't have it locked down to require an account for any reason other than
> keeping spam out of it.
>
> It's easy to write docs on it and anyone can get an account an help.
>
> 73's
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
> _______________________________________________
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From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 02:27:00 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:27:00 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD2LZyPCbB2DGWWeVWgsPHRYCd8oiP=SR4pvsFg1fiq4tw@mail.gmail.com>

I'll have a look over the wiki and might create an account myself.

Also - not sure if any of the devs that thought of this, but is it possible
to get the RSSI data stored somewhere for playback?

Reasoning behind this would be for synchronizing with a recording of the
repeater so that you could go back and review when a user was mobile or
using the repeater and what their RSSI was. I try to listen and view as
much as I can live, but sometimes its difficult.

Hayden
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From rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com  Tue Oct 24 04:52:50 2017
From: rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com (Chuck Henderson)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:52:50 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration
In-Reply-To: <CAC0VLD2LZyPCbB2DGWWeVWgsPHRYCd8oiP=SR4pvsFg1fiq4tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC0VLD2LZyPCbB2DGWWeVWgsPHRYCd8oiP=SR4pvsFg1fiq4tw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADEYVwggVbqz+xbJ7s-VZ-DBYn+fmg-V9uiOTi-H-JHPxug4RQ@mail.gmail.com>

I create a file in the /etc/cron.hourly directory called voterrecord that
contains the following lines

#!/bin/sh
asterisk -r -x "voter record 27468 voter-record442700"`date +%F-%H-%M` >>
/var/log/voterrecordlog

Obviously you should use your node number and an appropriate file name
prefix for the recordings.

The recordings can be played back using a program that plays the audio and
shows the RSSI values of each receiver and allows listening to even the
un-voted receivers.

I am not sure where that program is currently posted but should be
somewhere near the voter board source code.
Maybe someone knows where it is now, but if not, then I will try to
find all the necessary files and post it later.

I also set up a cron to archive all the recordings, both repeater output
audio and voter input for the previous day at about a minute after
midnight.  So far my repeater hard drive has all recordings since 2012 in
the archive.
Chuck










On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'll have a look over the wiki and might create an account myself.
>
> Also - not sure if any of the devs that thought of this, but is it
> possible to get the RSSI data stored somewhere for playback?
>
> Reasoning behind this would be for synchronizing with a recording of the
> repeater so that you could go back and review when a user was mobile or
> using the repeater and what their RSSI was. I try to listen and view as
> much as I can live, but sometimes its difficult.
>
> Hayden
>
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From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 10:23:15 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:23:15 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD2REO2Y9Sc_L9FCSWgMTQ2rNj_HoZGgScOcC4wk5LTQ8A@mail.gmail.com>

Cool thanks Chuck,
Is it PlayStuff.java? That's the closest I can find to what I think you
mean in the votmond file in the source files.

I wonder how the recording process would go on a Pi3 in the background... I
might have to also make another cron job to delete all archived material
maybe once a week, depending on file size. I only have a 16GB SD card in my
app_rpt Pi 3.
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From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 11:02:30 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 22:02:30 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: RTCM RSSI calibration
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD00hF4mmmjrKHMDyhU6gpdrA-ZXPsC2Q_B_YDnB8HPcQA@mail.gmail.com>

Found it!

https://allstarlink.org/voterpal/launch.jnlp

sample files here -
https://allstarlink.org/voter.html
https://allstarlink.org/voterpal/datafiles/voter-4-fq.vot

Run launch.jnlp... might need to add https://allstarlink.org as a security
exception in Java. This opens VoterPal....

Launch.jnlp disappears once it's been run.. trying to find the link to open
it again.
Might be worth documenting on the wiki.
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From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 11:23:09 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 22:23:09 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD1UYcbFe6SUH3etXkO7Ue4YJQEki9wGS6-y1Jxm3q_03A@mail.gmail.com>

Steps:

   - Go to https://allstarlink.org/voterpal/
   - Download the following files to a folder on your


   1. VoterPal.jar
   2. Contents of /lib into a folder called lib
   3. Download a test vot file from datafiles folder.

Double click on VoterPal.jar and the application should open. File > Open
your .vot file and then press play. You'll hear the recorded audio and the
resulting RSSI and voted receivers on the right.

I'll add to this to the wiki when I get an account :).
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Tue Oct 24 14:07:06 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:07:06 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
In-Reply-To: <CAC0VLD1UYcbFe6SUH3etXkO7Ue4YJQEki9wGS6-y1Jxm3q_03A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC0VLD1UYcbFe6SUH3etXkO7Ue4YJQEki9wGS6-y1Jxm3q_03A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79dddb09-6aaf-7786-d20b-f7533f0abb2b@msgstor.com>

I have added voterpal and votersim to the git repository 
<https://github.com/AllStarLink/voter>? I'm hesitant to upload ALL the 
sample files (6GB) It would impact anyone cloning the repo.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 10/24/2017 7:23 AM, Hayden Honeywood wrote:
> Steps:
>
>   * Go to https://allstarlink.org/voterpal/
>   * Download the following files to a folder on your
>
>  1. VoterPal.jar
>  2. Contents of /lib into a folder called lib
>  3. Download a test vot file from datafiles folder.
>
> Double click on VoterPal.jar and the application should open. File > 
> Open your .vot file and then press play. You'll hear the recorded 
> audio and the resulting RSSI and voted receivers on the right.
>
> I'll add to this to the wiki when I get an account :).
>
>
>
>
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From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 23:15:30 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:15:30 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD0a3v_3-BsoOeVLm_W_42_hEfkoWWsfr3DgEU1q=H-ZWw@mail.gmail.com>

Chuck,
I've been messing around this morning with my node.

I've got a script now made up using the info you provided, just substituted
my instance id and name. I'm now getting in the log file -

voter instance 1727 Record: Recording enabled info file
voter-recordRTC2017-10-25-10-13

Where does this file actually save to, and how does the recording work in
chan_voter, how does it capture and know when to stop recording?





On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Steps:
>
>    - Go to https://allstarlink.org/voterpal/
>    - Download the following files to a folder on your
>
>
>    1. VoterPal.jar
>    2. Contents of /lib into a folder called lib
>    3. Download a test vot file from datafiles folder.
>
> Double click on VoterPal.jar and the application should open. File > Open
> your .vot file and then press play. You'll hear the recorded audio and the
> resulting RSSI and voted receivers on the right.
>
> I'll add to this to the wiki when I get an account :).
>
>
>
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From rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com  Wed Oct 25 04:19:52 2017
From: rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com (Chuck Henderson)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:19:52 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
In-Reply-To: <CAC0VLD0a3v_3-BsoOeVLm_W_42_hEfkoWWsfr3DgEU1q=H-ZWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC0VLD0a3v_3-BsoOeVLm_W_42_hEfkoWWsfr3DgEU1q=H-ZWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADEYVwhgt+Wm2AYS2bD9nhBLPWALeAdXKmD4GA4vmbwzwdbUSA@mail.gmail.com>

It records anything that any voter receives and continues until a new file
name is submitted.  I submit a new filename every hour to keep each file
from getting too big and to cleanly close the file each hour in case of a
crash or power failure.  It only adds to the file if there is a signal.  If
there are no signals for the entire hour then the file will be zero bytes.
The files are in the /tmp directory until you move them somewhere to
archive them.
Chuck


On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Chuck,
> I've been messing around this morning with my node.
>
> I've got a script now made up using the info you provided, just
> substituted my instance id and name. I'm now getting in the log file -
>
> voter instance 1727 Record: Recording enabled info file
> voter-recordRTC2017-10-25-10-13
>
> Where does this file actually save to, and how does the recording work in
> chan_voter, how does it capture and know when to stop recording?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Steps:
>>
>>    - Go to https://allstarlink.org/voterpal/
>>    - Download the following files to a folder on your
>>
>>
>>    1. VoterPal.jar
>>    2. Contents of /lib into a folder called lib
>>    3. Download a test vot file from datafiles folder.
>>
>> Double click on VoterPal.jar and the application should open. File > Open
>> your .vot file and then press play. You'll hear the recorded audio and the
>> resulting RSSI and voted receivers on the right.
>>
>> I'll add to this to the wiki when I get an account :).
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 08:20:13 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 19:20:13 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD3LyDSV_AWwSiMWL=f0EEyFHFsmRX8HD4_uN6579PHMfg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Chuck.

My /tmp directory isn't filling up with any files at all. I made sure there
had been voter receiver activity, and ran the script a few times. In the
log it shows a new filename everytime I run it.

Went directly into the command line and ran:
voter record 1727 voter-recordRTC1

I get back:
voter instance 1727 Record: Recording enabled info file voter-recordRTC1

Check activity, then send the same command with 2 at the end of the
filename to change. Nothing appears in /tmp. I did a complete search on the
Pi for everything with the name voter in it, and still cannot find the
recordings.

I also have a tmpfs that I will have to make bigger once I get it working
25M  8.0K   25M   1% /tmp
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From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 10:35:20 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:35:20 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD1OAkomJEH=58Y04Jr_C-pFoVRAJnVXWFhwBbn38FTzww@mail.gmail.com>

Fixed it! Silly me.

#!/bin/sh
asterisk -r -x "voter record 1727 /tmp/voter-recordRTC"`date
+%F-%H-%M` >> /var/log/voterrecordlog

The path needs to be defined in the command.

Will post all this to the wiki soon.

Hayden



On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Chuck.
>
> My /tmp directory isn't filling up with any files at all. I made sure
> there had been voter receiver activity, and ran the script a few times. In
> the log it shows a new filename everytime I run it.
>
> Went directly into the command line and ran:
> voter record 1727 voter-recordRTC1
>
> I get back:
> voter instance 1727 Record: Recording enabled info file voter-recordRTC1
>
> Check activity, then send the same command with 2 at the end of the
> filename to change. Nothing appears in /tmp. I did a complete search on the
> Pi for everything with the name voter in it, and still cannot find the
> recordings.
>
> I also have a tmpfs that I will have to make bigger once I get it working
> 25M  8.0K   25M   1% /tmp
>
>
>
>
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From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 09:40:00 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:40:00 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
In-Reply-To: <CAC0VLD3LyDSV_AWwSiMWL=f0EEyFHFsmRX8HD4_uN6579PHMfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC0VLD3LyDSV_AWwSiMWL=f0EEyFHFsmRX8HD4_uN6579PHMfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD3sr0vf8jVJgCDUoN-Mz8cU8NFDu6e0RA5Kxub8ABqjNw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Chuck.

My /tmp directory isn't filling up with any files at all. I made sure there
had been voter receiver activity, and ran the script a few times. In the
log it shows a new filename everytime I run it.

Went directly into the command line and ran:
voter record 1727 voter-recordRTC1

I get back:
voter instance 1727 Record: Recording enabled info file voter-recordRTC1

Check activity, then send the same command with 2 at the end of the
filename to change. Nothing appears in /tmp. I did a complete search on the
Pi for everything with the name voter in it, and still cannot find the
recordings.

I also have a tmpfs that I will have to make bigger once I get it working
25M  8.0K   25M   1% /tmp
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From jamucins at mtu.edu  Thu Oct 26 00:02:29 2017
From: jamucins at mtu.edu (Joshua Mucinski)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:02:29 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] issues with Rx audio Gm300 Repeater
Message-ID: <CAHkd=k5iF_604k__pmkG1cMzn-N51Fq4_H3B8hgKAvJ3NFzvBg@mail.gmail.com>

Good Evening all,
I figured I would reach out to all of you too see if anyone can help.
Setup:
Gm300 Rx and Tx radios
DIAL Controller
USB interface: RA-40 using usbradio.conf

The issue I am having is with the RX audio ( i think) is not coming though
on the tx side of the repeater. I know the tx audio is set right, since i
can hear the announcements and they are clear. So I took apart the RX radio
and move the jumper to position A, so its not de-emphasized audio.

Things that i have done with Radio-tune-menu
Item #2: Rx squelch set to 543
Item#9 Success Setting=0.436243 meas=7089.0

I tried running Item #3 but didnt seem to get it to work, not sure what I
am really suppose to do with that. If anyone can help, please do.

Otherwise not sure what the actually numbers mean from item #9, might help
my brain to understand whats going on if i knew what those numbers actually
represented.

So if anyone can help me out, it would a great help to me as i have been
beating my head against this problem for a couple days.

Thanks

--
Joshua Mucinski
Jamucins at mtu.edu
616-826-2976
Mechanical Engineer
Michigan Technological University Alumi
Ham Radio Operator Extra Class - KE8CPD
I'm good on QRZ <https://qrz.com/db/KE8CPD>
KE8CPD Allstar Hub <http://44.103.33.85>
W8LRC <http://w8lrc.org>GRgives <http://grgives.com/>
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From mike at midnighteng.com  Thu Oct 26 00:51:23 2017
From: mike at midnighteng.com (mike at midnighteng.com)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:51:23 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] issues with Rx audio Gm300 Repeater
In-Reply-To: <CAHkd=k5iF_604k__pmkG1cMzn-N51Fq4_H3B8hgKAvJ3NFzvBg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4022833ce99292a68025286125c1a32248eece8b@webmail.midnighteng.com>

Not fully understanding all the data you provided,
The first stuff that comes to mind would be to check duplex mode and
then your TX logic may be inverted AND backwards.
You might take a moment to think what I said through. I don't have
time for a long post.

Just a few for your punch-list.

...mike/kb8jnm

----- Original Message -----
From:
 "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>

To:
<app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Cc:

Sent:
Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:02:29 -0400
Subject:
[App_rpt-users] issues with Rx audio Gm300 Repeater

Good Evening all,

I figured I would reach out to all of you too see if anyone can help.

Setup:

Gm300 Rx and Tx radios

DIAL Controller

USB interface: RA-40 using usbradio.conf

The issue I am having is with the RX audio ( i think) is not coming
though on the tx side of the repeater. I know the tx audio is set
right, since i can hear the announcements and they are clear. So I
took apart the RX radio and move the jumper to position A, so its not
de-emphasized audio.? 

Things that i have done with Radio-tune-menu

Item #2: Rx squelch set to 543

Item#9 Success Setting=0.436243 meas=7089.0

I tried running Item #3 but didnt seem to get it to work, not sure
what I am really suppose to do with that. If anyone can help, please
do.

Otherwise not sure what the actually numbers mean from item #9, might
help my brain to understand whats going on if i knew what those
numbers actually represented.

So if anyone can help me out, it would a great help to me as i have
been beating my head against this problem for a couple days.

Thanks

--
Joshua Mucinski

Jamucins at mtu.edu [1]
616-826-2976
Mechanical Engineer
Michigan Technological University Alumi

Ham Radio Operator Extra Class - KE8CPD 

I'm good on QRZ [2]

KE8CPD Allstar Hub [3]

W8LRC [4]GRgives [5]

 

Links:
------
[1] mailto:Jamucins at mtu.edu
[2] https://qrz.com/db/KE8CPD
[3] http://44.103.33.85
[4] http://w8lrc.org
[5] http://grgives.com/

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From jamucins at mtu.edu  Thu Oct 26 00:54:59 2017
From: jamucins at mtu.edu (Joshua Mucinski)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:54:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] issues with Rx audio Gm300 Repeater
In-Reply-To: <4022833ce99292a68025286125c1a32248eece8b@webmail.midnighteng.com>
References: <CAHkd=k5iF_604k__pmkG1cMzn-N51Fq4_H3B8hgKAvJ3NFzvBg@mail.gmail.com>
 <4022833ce99292a68025286125c1a32248eece8b@webmail.midnighteng.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkd=k7NMshPbS2S=gsrX1i=7MnKJFAJXdpwVWtgryk_mXb84A@mail.gmail.com>

All fixed.
Duplex was set to 0, should have been 1.



Thanks to all.

--
Joshua Mucinski
Jamucins at mtu.edu
616-826-2976
Mechanical Engineer
Michigan Technological University Alumi
Ham Radio Operator Extra Class - KE8CPD
I'm good on QRZ <https://qrz.com/db/KE8CPD>
KE8CPD Allstar Hub <http://44.103.33.85>
W8LRC <http://w8lrc.org>GRgives <http://grgives.com/>

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:51 PM, <mike at midnighteng.com> wrote:

> Not fully understanding all the data you provided,
> The first stuff that comes to mind would be to check duplex mode and then
> your TX logic may be inverted AND backwards.
> You might take a moment to think what I said through. I don't have time
> for a long post.
>
> Just a few for your punch-list.
>
>
> ...mike/kb8jnm
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>
> To:
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Cc:
>
> Sent:
> Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:02:29 -0400
> Subject:
> [App_rpt-users] issues with Rx audio Gm300 Repeater
>
>
>
> Good Evening all,
> I figured I would reach out to all of you too see if anyone can help.
> Setup:
> Gm300 Rx and Tx radios
> DIAL Controller
> USB interface: RA-40 using usbradio.conf
>
> The issue I am having is with the RX audio ( i think) is not coming though
> on the tx side of the repeater. I know the tx audio is set right, since i
> can hear the announcements and they are clear. So I took apart the RX radio
> and move the jumper to position A, so its not de-emphasized audio.
>
> Things that i have done with Radio-tune-menu
> Item #2: Rx squelch set to 543
> Item#9 Success Setting=0.436243 meas=7089.0
>
> I tried running Item #3 but didnt seem to get it to work, not sure what I
> am really suppose to do with that. If anyone can help, please do.
>
> Otherwise not sure what the actually numbers mean from item #9, might help
> my brain to understand whats going on if i knew what those numbers actually
> represented.
>
> So if anyone can help me out, it would a great help to me as i have been
> beating my head against this problem for a couple days.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Joshua Mucinski
> Jamucins at mtu.edu
> 616-826-2976
> Mechanical Engineer
> Michigan Technological University Alumi
> Ham Radio Operator Extra Class - KE8CPD
> I'm good on QRZ <https://qrz.com/db/KE8CPD>
> KE8CPD Allstar Hub <http://44.103.33.85>
> W8LRC <http://w8lrc.org>GRgives <http://grgives.com/>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com  Thu Oct 26 13:53:31 2017
From: rpt2 at chuck.midlandsnetworking.com (Chuck Henderson)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:53:31 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
In-Reply-To: <CAC0VLD1OAkomJEH=58Y04Jr_C-pFoVRAJnVXWFhwBbn38FTzww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC0VLD1OAkomJEH=58Y04Jr_C-pFoVRAJnVXWFhwBbn38FTzww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADEYVwgk_e+Ak1FcJenLjWpD=bG0Xdz0xUQMHyUFxMpQEGin=A@mail.gmail.com>

I do not use the rpi for any repeaters yet. I do not specify /tmp, but my
files automatically are placed in /tmp.
I suspect that in porting the code to the rpi there must have been a change
in the source code that changed that behavior.
Maybe by default, they send files to /dev/null to avoid using up the
limited writes to the flash memory???
Can you plug in a usb hard drive to capture logs and recordings so as to
save the flash memory from eventual destruction from too many writes?
So far I have lost 3 flash cards in experimental rpi use.  I think each
location in the flash is limited to a finite number of writes (maybe
100,000 per location) and software tries to keep moving files around to use
up the entire flash evenly.  But they do eventually fail.
Chuck





On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Fixed it! Silly me.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> asterisk -r -x "voter record 1727 /tmp/voter-recordRTC"`date +%F-%H-%M` >> /var/log/voterrecordlog
>
> The path needs to be defined in the command.
>
> Will post all this to the wiki soon.
>
> Hayden
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Hayden Honeywood <haydenph91 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chuck.
>>
>> My /tmp directory isn't filling up with any files at all. I made sure
>> there had been voter receiver activity, and ran the script a few times. In
>> the log it shows a new filename everytime I run it.
>>
>> Went directly into the command line and ran:
>> voter record 1727 voter-recordRTC1
>>
>> I get back:
>> voter instance 1727 Record: Recording enabled info file voter-recordRTC1
>>
>> Check activity, then send the same command with 2 at the end of the
>> filename to change. Nothing appears in /tmp. I did a complete search on the
>> Pi for everything with the name voter in it, and still cannot find the
>> recordings.
>>
>> I also have a tmpfs that I will have to make bigger once I get it
>> working  25M  8.0K   25M   1% /tmp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
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From aglorioso62 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 15:58:25 2017
From: aglorioso62 at gmail.com (A)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 10:58:25 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TKR-820
Message-ID: <1866b732-fc64-dd5c-64eb-dfd2d4f9d289@gmail.com>

Hello All,


 ?Does anyone have the wiring for the Kenwood TKR-820 to the URI?? If 
you also have the

setting/file for the USBRADIO/SIMPLEUSB, I would appreciate it.


73 de Angelo





From mhebert1975 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 16:03:18 2017
From: mhebert1975 at gmail.com (Michael Hebert)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:03:18 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TKR-820
In-Reply-To: <1866b732-fc64-dd5c-64eb-dfd2d4f9d289@gmail.com>
References: <1866b732-fc64-dd5c-64eb-dfd2d4f9d289@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANQAhPER4cg2Eipe8t+mh645YjaoF-ZhLC1RCOF9RQEUYVRR7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Here is how I wired it up.

Michael KD5DFB

On Oct 26, 2017 10:56, "A" <aglorioso62 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
>
>  Does anyone have the wiring for the Kenwood TKR-820 to the URI?? If you
> also have the
>
> setting/file for the USBRADIO/SIMPLEUSB, I would appreciate it.
>
>
> 73 de Angelo
>
>
>
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From paulkn2r at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 16:10:23 2017
From: paulkn2r at gmail.com (Paul Aidukas)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:10:23 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TKR-820
In-Reply-To: <CANQAhPER4cg2Eipe8t+mh645YjaoF-ZhLC1RCOF9RQEUYVRR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1866b732-fc64-dd5c-64eb-dfd2d4f9d289@gmail.com>
 <CANQAhPER4cg2Eipe8t+mh645YjaoF-ZhLC1RCOF9RQEUYVRR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE7ude2AZdDC3Rub=ZKn+tRD4WjYNxHvxLgajKnQ55f4VEAyVw@mail.gmail.com>

usbradio.conf for Kenwood TKR-820 using descriminator audio:

[usbXXXXX]

hdwtype=0
duplex=1
rxboost=0
txboost=0
rxctcssrelax=1
ctcssfrom=no
carrierfrom=usbinvert
rxdemod=flat
rxsquelchdelay=100
txprelim=no
txlimonly=yes
txtoctype=no
txmixa=voice
txmixb=no
invertptt=0
rxondelay=1
rxnoisefiltype=0
eeprom=0


On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Michael Hebert <mhebert1975 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here is how I wired it up.
>
> Michael KD5DFB
>
> On Oct 26, 2017 10:56, "A" <aglorioso62 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>  Does anyone have the wiring for the Kenwood TKR-820 to the URI?? If you
>> also have the
>>
>> setting/file for the USBRADIO/SIMPLEUSB, I would appreciate it.
>>
>>
>> 73 de Angelo
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From aglorioso62 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 16:13:03 2017
From: aglorioso62 at gmail.com (A)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:13:03 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TKR-820
In-Reply-To: <CAE7ude2AZdDC3Rub=ZKn+tRD4WjYNxHvxLgajKnQ55f4VEAyVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1866b732-fc64-dd5c-64eb-dfd2d4f9d289@gmail.com>
 <CANQAhPER4cg2Eipe8t+mh645YjaoF-ZhLC1RCOF9RQEUYVRR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAE7ude2AZdDC3Rub=ZKn+tRD4WjYNxHvxLgajKnQ55f4VEAyVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <184b4a4a-9f9e-6659-51c0-fb45107b60fa@gmail.com>

Thanks Michael and Paul!!

You guys Rock.


Angelo




On 10/26/2017 11:10 AM, Paul Aidukas wrote:
> usbradio.conf for Kenwood TKR-820 using descriminator audio:
>
> [usbXXXXX]
>
> hdwtype=0
> duplex=1
> rxboost=0
> txboost=0
> rxctcssrelax=1
> ctcssfrom=no
> carrierfrom=usbinvert
> rxdemod=flat
> rxsquelchdelay=100
> txprelim=no
> txlimonly=yes
> txtoctype=no
> txmixa=voice
> txmixb=no
> invertptt=0
> rxondelay=1
> rxnoisefiltype=0
> eeprom=0
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Michael Hebert 
> <mhebert1975 at gmail.com <mailto:mhebert1975 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Here is how I wired it up.
>
>     Michael KD5DFB
>
>     On Oct 26, 2017 10:56, "A" <aglorioso62 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:aglorioso62 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hello All,
>
>
>         ?Does anyone have the wiring for the Kenwood TKR-820 to the
>         URI?? If you also have the
>
>         setting/file for the USBRADIO/SIMPLEUSB, I would appreciate it.
>
>
>         73 de Angelo
>
>
>
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From paulkn2r at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 16:13:47 2017
From: paulkn2r at gmail.com (Paul Aidukas)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:13:47 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TKR-820
In-Reply-To: <CAE7ude2AZdDC3Rub=ZKn+tRD4WjYNxHvxLgajKnQ55f4VEAyVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1866b732-fc64-dd5c-64eb-dfd2d4f9d289@gmail.com>
 <CANQAhPER4cg2Eipe8t+mh645YjaoF-ZhLC1RCOF9RQEUYVRR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAE7ude2AZdDC3Rub=ZKn+tRD4WjYNxHvxLgajKnQ55f4VEAyVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE7ude2Uv5-3v9HJP4daBFcvZ74paBDA_cdLmW7uZUiRRXP-JQ@mail.gmail.com>

Kenwood TKR-820:  For descriminator audio use pin 4 instead of pin 10.


On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Paul Aidukas <paulkn2r at gmail.com> wrote:

> usbradio.conf for Kenwood TKR-820 using descriminator audio:
>
> [usbXXXXX]
>
> hdwtype=0
> duplex=1
> rxboost=0
> txboost=0
> rxctcssrelax=1
> ctcssfrom=no
> carrierfrom=usbinvert
> rxdemod=flat
> rxsquelchdelay=100
> txprelim=no
> txlimonly=yes
> txtoctype=no
> txmixa=voice
> txmixb=no
> invertptt=0
> rxondelay=1
> rxnoisefiltype=0
> eeprom=0
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Michael Hebert <mhebert1975 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here is how I wired it up.
>>
>> Michael KD5DFB
>>
>> On Oct 26, 2017 10:56, "A" <aglorioso62 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>>  Does anyone have the wiring for the Kenwood TKR-820 to the URI?? If you
>>> also have the
>>>
>>> setting/file for the USBRADIO/SIMPLEUSB, I would appreciate it.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 de Angelo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit
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>>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
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>>> the list detailing the problem.
>>
>>
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>
> --
>
> Paul / KN2R
>
>


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From szingman at msgstor.com  Thu Oct 26 19:42:30 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:42:30 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Wiki
Message-ID: <dbeb2114-df16-b7d9-86d5-352a1579e579@msgstor.com>

The Wiki is really coming along. we have a LONG way to go but, it's 
starting to fill up with information. Lots of goodies on the RTCM and 
the start of good documentation of the AllStarLink configuration files.
One of the MANY things we we lacking is a place to post radio/repeater 
connection information. Tim and Bryan have added a lot of connection 
information for Motorola equipment. I have diagrams for Motorola, Tait 
and a few others. I'll be cleaning them up and posting.
If you have connection information, I encourage you to get a account on 
the Wiki and post! If you build hardware for use with AllStarLink, this 
would be a good place to post connection diagrams and links!

Thanks to Bryan, Tim and the RTCM team for putting together some really 
hard to find info all in one place! 
<http://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Main_Page>

73, Steve N4IRS


-- 
"What are HB_bridge, IPSC_bridge and Analog_bridge?"



From haydenph91 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 21:43:11 2017
From: haydenph91 at gmail.com (Hayden Honeywood)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:43:11 +1100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM RSSI calibration (recorder)
Message-ID: <CAC0VLD32xhEYcfSgDKmydK-XOEk+hnKSzHDkj4R1H5ZJ9JBd3Q@mail.gmail.com>

I ran the script a few times without the file path and they didn't appear
anywhere. I searched the whole Pi using WinSCP with *voter* as a wildcard.

Either way, I do have the issue whereby my SD card in the Pi is Read Only.
There are tmpfs for /tmp etc but they are very small as the Pi3 still only
has 1GB of RAM.

I'm going to use a 16 or 32GB flash drive, mount it and save to that. I'll
see how long it takes to fill up, and maybe delete some of the older files
when it needs to be cleaned up.

I did see the archivedir function in rpt.conf which logs and records all
traffic (including link) but I was more interested in seeing how the voter
performs.

Yes, I've had a few microSD cards fail lately, most of them in a dashcam in
my vehicle which overwrites the old files and writes every 5 mins. I've
since gotten a larger SD card, and set the clip lengths to 10 mins. In the
Pi's I use 16GB to help spread out the amount of writes, but being Read
Only should help.
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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 22:30:13 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:30:13 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Wiki
In-Reply-To: <dbeb2114-df16-b7d9-86d5-352a1579e579@msgstor.com>
References: <dbeb2114-df16-b7d9-86d5-352a1579e579@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbK3Vz84PQRRUcm18NKAF6c9+970oJpLm7bhMxN6A2796A@mail.gmail.com>

Look great Steve

David
KE6UPI



--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
wrote:

> The Wiki is really coming along. we have a LONG way to go but, it's
> starting to fill up with information. Lots of goodies on the RTCM and the
> start of good documentation of the AllStarLink configuration files.
> One of the MANY things we we lacking is a place to post radio/repeater
> connection information. Tim and Bryan have added a lot of connection
> information for Motorola equipment. I have diagrams for Motorola, Tait and
> a few others. I'll be cleaning them up and posting.
> If you have connection information, I encourage you to get a account on
> the Wiki and post! If you build hardware for use with AllStarLink, this
> would be a good place to post connection diagrams and links!
>
> Thanks to Bryan, Tim and the RTCM team for putting together some really
> hard to find info all in one place! <http://wiki.allstarlink.org/w
> iki/Main_Page>
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
>
> --
> "What are HB_bridge, IPSC_bridge and Analog_bridge?"
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Fri Oct 27 01:00:26 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:00:26 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kenwood TKR-820
In-Reply-To: <CANQAhPER4cg2Eipe8t+mh645YjaoF-ZhLC1RCOF9RQEUYVRR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1866b732-fc64-dd5c-64eb-dfd2d4f9d289@gmail.com>
 <CANQAhPER4cg2Eipe8t+mh645YjaoF-ZhLC1RCOF9RQEUYVRR7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1509066026.2250.4.camel@Project23D.com>

A friend and I both use the TKR-820s at home.

We discovered that his sounded "better" when he added a resistor L-
network, which consisted of a 4.7k and 470 ohm resistors, in the TX
audio path, from the URI to the LI of the repeater.

The TX audio out from the URI goes to the radio audio in has the 4.7k
resistor in series. The 470 ohm resistor, connects to the 'radio' side
of the 4.7k, and is connected to GND.

Something to consider adding to your URI -> radio's TX audio path if
you find that Allison sounds over deviated when you can barely hear
her.

You should not connect any wires to the audio GND, as they are floating
grounds.

You may find that you have to add a toroid, wrapped several times with
the TX and RX audio leads, to eliminate common mode, else stray RF
getting into the URI and TX audio input paths. When you hear someone
elses node, usually the portable RPi's with HTs, the buzz you hear, is
RF getting into the audio leads. Not a fun problem to fix as it does
take some testing to get the RF choke in the right spot.

....
When connecting the audio out from the URL into the repeater, I half-
witted solder the audio in wire to the MIC input of the repeater, and
hence not very good audio. I am going to fix that tonight!



~Benjamin, KB9LFZ



On Thu, 2017-10-26 at 11:03 -0500, Michael Hebert wrote:
> Here is how I wired it up.?
> 
> Michael KD5DFB
> 
> On Oct 26, 2017 10:56, "A" <aglorioso62 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > 
> > ?Does anyone have the wiring for the Kenwood TKR-820 to the URI??
> > If you also have the
> > 
> > setting/file for the USBRADIO/SIMPLEUSB, I would appreciate it.
> > 
> > 
> > 73 de Angelo
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > 
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From szingman at msgstor.com  Fri Oct 27 10:24:39 2017
From: szingman at msgstor.com (Steve Zingman)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:24:39 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Wiki
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbK3Vz84PQRRUcm18NKAF6c9+970oJpLm7bhMxN6A2796A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dbeb2114-df16-b7d9-86d5-352a1579e579@msgstor.com>
 <CAH4RvbK3Vz84PQRRUcm18NKAF6c9+970oJpLm7bhMxN6A2796A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3f64808-6fed-bb26-1b98-5edb087040fa@msgstor.com>

Just to be clear, The Wiki is the work of Bryan, Tim and all the 
contributors.

Steve

On 10/26/2017 06:30 PM, David Shaw wrote:
> Look great Steve
>
> David
> KE6UPI
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are 
> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make 
> things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they 
> serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man 
> may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com 
> <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>
>     The Wiki is really coming along. we have a LONG way to go but,
>     it's starting to fill up with information. Lots of goodies on the
>     RTCM and the start of good documentation of the AllStarLink
>     configuration files.
>     One of the MANY things we we lacking is a place to post
>     radio/repeater connection information. Tim and Bryan have added a
>     lot of connection information for Motorola equipment. I have
>     diagrams for Motorola, Tait and a few others. I'll be cleaning
>     them up and posting.
>     If you have connection information, I encourage you to get a
>     account on the Wiki and post! If you build hardware for use with
>     AllStarLink, this would be a good place to post connection
>     diagrams and links!
>
>     Thanks to Bryan, Tim and the RTCM team for putting together some
>     really hard to find info all in one place!
>     <http://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Main_Page
>     <http://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Main_Page>>
>
>     73, Steve N4IRS
>
>
>     -
>
>

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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Fri Oct 27 13:09:48 2017
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:09:48 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Wiki
In-Reply-To: <b3f64808-6fed-bb26-1b98-5edb087040fa@msgstor.com>
References: <dbeb2114-df16-b7d9-86d5-352a1579e579@msgstor.com>
 <CAH4RvbK3Vz84PQRRUcm18NKAF6c9+970oJpLm7bhMxN6A2796A@mail.gmail.com>
 <b3f64808-6fed-bb26-1b98-5edb087040fa@msgstor.com>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbL-ptFBaA12QRZRBnewgEZuLzgfuQp320EOrGWpe3Mxng@mail.gmail.com>

Looks great Bryan, Tim and to all the contributors.


David
KE6UPI




--
Thanks, David

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
confidence than an armed one."
Thomas Jefferson

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 3:24 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> Just to be clear, The Wiki is the work of Bryan, Tim and all the
> contributors.
>
> Steve
>
> On 10/26/2017 06:30 PM, David Shaw wrote:
>
> Look great Steve
>
> David
> KE6UPI
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
> inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for
> the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage
> than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater
> confidence than an armed one."
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The Wiki is really coming along. we have a LONG way to go but, it's
>> starting to fill up with information. Lots of goodies on the RTCM and the
>> start of good documentation of the AllStarLink configuration files.
>> One of the MANY things we we lacking is a place to post radio/repeater
>> connection information. Tim and Bryan have added a lot of connection
>> information for Motorola equipment. I have diagrams for Motorola, Tait and
>> a few others. I'll be cleaning them up and posting.
>> If you have connection information, I encourage you to get a account on
>> the Wiki and post! If you build hardware for use with AllStarLink, this
>> would be a good place to post connection diagrams and links!
>>
>> Thanks to Bryan, Tim and the RTCM team for putting together some really
>> hard to find info all in one place! <http://wiki.allstarlink.org/w
>> iki/Main_Page>
>>
>> 73, Steve N4IRS
>>
>>
>> -
>
>
>
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From shaun at pmbnet.co.za  Fri Oct 27 16:52:31 2017
From: shaun at pmbnet.co.za (Shaun Rudling)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 18:52:31 +0200
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar - Incoming/Outgoing EchoLink connections
	not possible
Message-ID: <7c3655df-006c-1149-be72-f8eac6662ec9@pmbnet.co.za>

Hi All, after so many years (installed 2011) of using the AllStar system 
flawlessly, now the EchoLink side of it has stopped.
I see this error when someone tries to connect...
"Connected to Asterisk? currently running on hub (pid = 2110)
Verbosity is at least 3
[Oct 27 17:54:41] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: Cannot 
find DB??????????????????????? entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139
[Oct 27 17:54:42] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: Cannot 
find DB??????????????????????? entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139
[Oct 27 17:54:44] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: Cannot 
find DB??????????????????????? entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139
[Oct 27 17:54:46] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: Cannot 
find DB??????????????????????? entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139"

I can't think of anything that has changed on my network, or router.
AS node 28052
EL node 244279
ZS5PMB-R

Is anyone able to assist please? We can even pay for your time if 
necessary. Teamviewer session?

Shaun
ZR5S



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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 27 17:33:06 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:33:06 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar - Incoming/Outgoing EchoLink
	connections not possible
In-Reply-To: <7c3655df-006c-1149-be72-f8eac6662ec9@pmbnet.co.za>
References: <7c3655df-006c-1149-be72-f8eac6662ec9@pmbnet.co.za>
Message-ID: <36D3C9E1-3AD6-483B-B4C6-725641EA0628@gmail.com>

Yup, unable to connect via EL, but could through AS. Both AS and EL sites show you as registered. I'm wondering if something happened to your software load to get corrupted. I used to have that issue until I went with the RPi a couple of years ago. A reboot would often correct the issue. I later discovered a USB issue that caused asterisk to not be happy, and seemed to be corrupting my load. This is a mystery to me.

The IP address below is reported as computer.amazonws.com. Does this make sense to you? Not seeing any connection with your issue, but curious.

Bob
k6ecm

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Shaun Rudling <shaun at pmbnet.co.za> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, after so many years (installed 2011) of using the AllStar system flawlessly, now the EchoLink side of it has stopped. 
> I see this error when someone tries to connect... 
> "Connected to Asterisk  currently running on hub (pid = 2110) 
> Verbosity is at least 3 
> [Oct 27 17:54:41] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: Cannot find DB                        entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139 
> [Oct 27 17:54:42] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: Cannot find DB                        entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139 
> [Oct 27 17:54:44] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: Cannot find DB                        entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139 
> [Oct 27 17:54:46] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: Cannot find DB                        entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139" 
> 
> I can't think of anything that has changed on my network, or router. 
> AS node 28052 
> EL node 244279 
> ZS5PMB-R 
> 
> Is anyone able to assist please? We can even pay for your time if necessary. Teamviewer session? 
> 
> Shaun 
> ZR5S 
> 
> 
> 
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 27 20:01:40 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 13:01:40 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI w/ or w/o EEPROM?
Message-ID: <62FF4611-1627-4610-8C66-03ED74743203@gmail.com>

What are the advantages of using the URI EEPROM or not using it with DIAL and the RPi?

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from my iPhone

From ke6pcv at cal-net.org  Fri Oct 27 21:26:15 2017
From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:26:15 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI w/ or w/o EEPROM?
In-Reply-To: <62FF4611-1627-4610-8C66-03ED74743203@gmail.com>
References: <62FF4611-1627-4610-8C66-03ED74743203@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010b01d34f6a$38cfb360$aa6f1a20$@org>

A URI with an EEPROM allows you save the USBradio channel driver's working parameters for the radio connecto to the URI.   This gives you the ability to physically change the URI's USB positions to a differnt node and the radio parameters will stay with the radio and will not require you to re-calibration audio level adjustments).

73

Marshall - ke6pcv

-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bob Pyke
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 1:02 PM
To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI w/ or w/o EEPROM?

What are the advantages of using the URI EEPROM or not using it with DIAL and the RPi?

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from my iPhone
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 27 23:50:50 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 16:50:50 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI w/ or w/o EEPROM?
In-Reply-To: <010b01d34f6a$38cfb360$aa6f1a20$@org>
References: <62FF4611-1627-4610-8C66-03ED74743203@gmail.com>
 <010b01d34f6a$38cfb360$aa6f1a20$@org>
Message-ID: <91BD9218-397F-4D49-BC66-71B3AA71AE74@gmail.com>

Good point! Thanks
 Bob
K6ECM

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Marshall Oldham <ke6pcv at cal-net.org> wrote:
> 
> A URI with an EEPROM allows you save the USBradio channel driver's working parameters for the radio connecto to the URI.   This gives you the ability to physically change the URI's USB positions to a differnt node and the radio parameters will stay with the radio and will not require you to re-calibration audio level adjustments).
> 
> 73
> 
> Marshall - ke6pcv
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bob Pyke
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 1:02 PM
> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] URI w/ or w/o EEPROM?
> 
> What are the advantages of using the URI EEPROM or not using it with DIAL and the RPi?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
> K6ECM
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From shaun at pmbnet.co.za  Sat Oct 28 16:43:33 2017
From: shaun at pmbnet.co.za (Shaun Rudling)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 18:43:33 +0200
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar - Incoming/Outgoing EchoLink
 connections not possible
In-Reply-To: <36D3C9E1-3AD6-483B-B4C6-725641EA0628@gmail.com>
References: <7c3655df-006c-1149-be72-f8eac6662ec9@pmbnet.co.za>
 <36D3C9E1-3AD6-483B-B4C6-725641EA0628@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7d4646da-a513-6ff7-a2f0-c225a2d31ed4@pmbnet.co.za>

Thanks for your help, Bob. After a couple of reboots (about 6) it just 
started working again.

Shaun
ZR5S



On 10/27/2017 19:33, Bob Pyke wrote:
> Yup, unable to connect via EL, but could through AS. Both AS and EL 
> sites show you as registered. I'm wondering if something happened to 
> your software load to get corrupted. I used to have that issue until I 
> went with the RPi a couple of years ago. A reboot would often correct 
> the issue. I later discovered a USB issue that caused asterisk to not 
> be happy, and seemed to be corrupting my load. This is a mystery to me.
>
> The IP address below is reported as computer.amazonws.com 
> <http://computer.amazonws.com>. Does this make sense to you? Not 
> seeing any connection with your issue, but curious.
>
> Bob
> k6ecm
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 27, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Shaun Rudling <shaun at pmbnet.co.za 
> <mailto:shaun at pmbnet.co.za>> wrote:
>
>> Hi All, after so many years (installed 2011) of using the AllStar 
>> system flawlessly, now the EchoLink side of it has stopped.
>> I see this error when someone tries to connect...
>> "Connected to Asterisk? currently running on hub (pid = 2110)
>> Verbosity is at least 3
>> [Oct 27 17:54:41] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: 
>> Cannot find DB??????????????????????? entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139
>> [Oct 27 17:54:42] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: 
>> Cannot find DB??????????????????????? entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139
>> [Oct 27 17:54:44] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: 
>> Cannot find DB??????????????????????? entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139
>> [Oct 27 17:54:46] ERROR[2221]: chan_echolink.c:2578 do_new_call: 
>> Cannot find DB??????????????????????? entry for IP addr 107.23.146.139"
>>
>> I can't think of anything that has changed on my network, or router.
>> AS node 28052
>> EL node 244279
>> ZS5PMB-R
>>
>> Is anyone able to assist please? We can even pay for your time if 
>> necessary. Teamviewer session?
>>
>> Shaun
>> ZR5S
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org 
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 28 18:21:23 2017
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:21:23 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar - Incoming/Outgoing EchoLink
	connections not possible
In-Reply-To: <7d4646da-a513-6ff7-a2f0-c225a2d31ed4@pmbnet.co.za>
References: <7c3655df-006c-1149-be72-f8eac6662ec9@pmbnet.co.za>
 <36D3C9E1-3AD6-483B-B4C6-725641EA0628@gmail.com>
 <7d4646da-a513-6ff7-a2f0-c225a2d31ed4@pmbnet.co.za>
Message-ID: <8FC7B35C-7E39-4B93-AC0D-E41F1B79E584@gmail.com>

Very good. It likely didn't require 6, but could easily required that much time to get reregistered with the server.

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM
73


> On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Shaun Rudling <shaun at pmbnet.co.za> wrote:
> 
> 244279


From Benjamin at Project23D.com  Sun Oct 29 04:42:55 2017
From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 23:42:55 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Systemctl --failed
Message-ID: <1509252175.2250.10.camel@Project23D.com>

So an adventure I embarked on this evening was to investigate how to
prevent an OS service from putting the ASL laptop to 'suspend' when the
lid was closed.

I came across systemctl, which can be very dangerous, haha.

Poking around, I learned how to view the status of "things", and was
looking to see what *may* be running that would suspend the laptop when
the lid was closed.

$systemctl status

I saw "System State = Degraded" in red letters. Interesting! I didn't
see what was causing the degraded state, so more reading lead to the
use of the command
$systemctl --failed

which revealed something that I was not wanting to see:
updatenodelist.service (or something like that)

Given that I haven't fooled with any of the bootup stuff, or anything
relating to updatenodelist, but aware that this service is used with
ASL, so I used the following command to stop
$systemctl stop updatenodelist.service

and then started with the following
$systemctl start updatenodelist.service

and then
$systemctl status

"System State - running"


So ADD got the best of me, and jumped off the track off. Bah!

Curious though, anyone else with mad Linux skillz, running an ASL box,
ever make the same discovery? You get one point if was also by
'accident'

For those who want to know, the ASL box has been running for five-ish
days, and before poking around for 'suspend' stuff, I was fooling
around with iax.conf and rpt.conf and restarted asterisk by
$service asterisk stop && service asterisk start

and some other stuff I was fooling around with, but elected to reload
the app_rpt module is the Asterisk console
KB9LFZ-1*CLI> module reload app_rpt.so

this said, asterisk was restarted a few times *before* fooling around
with systemctl...So, is updatenodelist NOT related/hooked to asterisk
starting/stopping?

Not sure if I am asking about a issue or just openly stating an
observation that..... could be an issue?

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ 


From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Oct 31 18:50:03 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:50:03 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes on same server linked,
	but not repeating audio?
Message-ID: <1fc649ca-74d7-0539-6fad-7f4bd7af7e41@bryanfields.net>

I have 3 nodes on the same server, and have seen this behavior before, and
it's happening now again.

My node 40821, 41618, 420 are linked and report as linked, but a user on one
doesn't bring the other up and vice versa.  A restart will clear it, but is
there any troubleshooting I can do to debug this problem?

Thanks,
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From dshaw at ke6upi.com  Tue Oct 31 19:20:59 2017
From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 12:20:59 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes on same server linked,
	but not repeating audio?
In-Reply-To: <1fc649ca-74d7-0539-6fad-7f4bd7af7e41@bryanfields.net>
References: <1fc649ca-74d7-0539-6fad-7f4bd7af7e41@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CAH4RvbLXqXF2+wyZgSMCNKHou3TgXWALmnhLD0Sjo7_-b4Hx-w@mail.gmail.com>

Check rpt.conf. Look at [nodes]

You should have something like this.
2081 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2081,NONE
2082 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2082,NONE

The 127.0.0.1 is your local server loopback IP address. This keep the
Internet from going out and back in.

If that looks good. You can try pinging and/or traceroute to 127.0.0.1 if
the problem happens again. The problem could be a firewall or ARP. If you
run Fail2ban whitelist 127.0.0.1.

David
KE6UPI



On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
wrote:

> I have 3 nodes on the same server, and have seen this behavior before, and
> it's happening now again.
>
> My node 40821, 41618, 420 are linked and report as linked, but a user on
> one
> doesn't bring the other up and vice versa.  A restart will clear it, but is
> there any troubleshooting I can do to debug this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Oct 31 19:25:21 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:25:21 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes on same server linked,
 but not repeating audio?
In-Reply-To: <CAH4RvbLXqXF2+wyZgSMCNKHou3TgXWALmnhLD0Sjo7_-b4Hx-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1fc649ca-74d7-0539-6fad-7f4bd7af7e41@bryanfields.net>
 <CAH4RvbLXqXF2+wyZgSMCNKHou3TgXWALmnhLD0Sjo7_-b4Hx-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d414bcef-bbda-bc5f-e310-7ad4c053f7d1@bryanfields.net>

On 10/31/17 3:20 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
> Check rpt.conf. Look at [nodes]
> 
> You should have something like this.
> 2081 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2081,NONE
> 2082 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2082,NONE

It's as configured.
40821 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4578/40821,NONE	        ; 224.280
41618 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4578/41618,NONE         ; 443.525
42032 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4578/42032,NONE         ; 927.050


> The 127.0.0.1 is your local server loopback IP address. This keep the
> Internet from going out and back in.
> 
> If that looks good. You can try pinging and/or traceroute to 127.0.0.1 if
> the problem happens again. The problem could be a firewall or ARP. If you
> run Fail2ban whitelist 127.0.0.1.

Lo0 is up.  I really doubt it's this.

root at Itchy:/var/log/asterisk/rpt-audio/41618# ifconfig lo0
lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
          RX packets:2058417942 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:2058417942 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:133746737506 (124.5 GiB)  TX bytes:133746737506 (124.5 GiB)

There is something else afoot here and it's likely inside asterisk/app_rpt. :(




-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
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From michael at lockwood.us.com  Tue Oct 31 19:33:59 2017
From: michael at lockwood.us.com (Michael "Lee" Lockwood)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:33:59 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Private Nodes / System
Message-ID: <CALfOzwQaKrGhQ4kcGDxEtGhi0CNOMOCKY5-MNiLz1=eaUN5UaQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a few repeaters that are linked using app_rpt that are on a private
network (but use Internet for connectivity).  I'd like to disable all
functions of the Allstar Link system for these nodes.  Primarily, I don't
want the nodes creating unnecessary network traffic and using resources
from Allstar Link servers that they don't need to be.

Can someone provide me with a list of all CRON jobs, scripts, files, etc.
that I should modify to completely have these nodes standalone, and not
getting any sort of updates from the Allstar Link servers whatsoever please?
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From dshaw at ke6upi.com  Tue Oct 31 20:05:17 2017
From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 13:05:17 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes on same server linked,
	but not repeating audio?
In-Reply-To: <d414bcef-bbda-bc5f-e310-7ad4c053f7d1@bryanfields.net>
References: <1fc649ca-74d7-0539-6fad-7f4bd7af7e41@bryanfields.net>
 <CAH4RvbLXqXF2+wyZgSMCNKHou3TgXWALmnhLD0Sjo7_-b4Hx-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <d414bcef-bbda-bc5f-e310-7ad4c053f7d1@bryanfields.net>
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If it is APP_RPT its out of my hands. Whats the uptime on it? 124.5 GiB on
your loopback seems a lot. Then again maybe not. How about your firewall
logs and message logs?


David


On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
wrote:

> On 10/31/17 3:20 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
> > Check rpt.conf. Look at [nodes]
> >
> > You should have something like this.
> > 2081 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2081,NONE
> > 2082 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2082,NONE
>
> It's as configured.
> 40821 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4578/40821,NONE         ; 224.280
> 41618 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4578/41618,NONE         ; 443.525
> 42032 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4578/42032,NONE         ; 927.050
>
>
> > The 127.0.0.1 is your local server loopback IP address. This keep the
> > Internet from going out and back in.
> >
> > If that looks good. You can try pinging and/or traceroute to 127.0.0.1 if
> > the problem happens again. The problem could be a firewall or ARP. If you
> > run Fail2ban whitelist 127.0.0.1.
>
> Lo0 is up.  I really doubt it's this.
>
> root at Itchy:/var/log/asterisk/rpt-audio/41618# ifconfig lo0
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
>           RX packets:2058417942 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:2058417942 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>           RX bytes:133746737506 (124.5 GiB)  TX bytes:133746737506 (124.5
> GiB)
>
> There is something else afoot here and it's likely inside
> asterisk/app_rpt. :(
>
>
>
>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Oct 31 21:35:22 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:35:22 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes on same server linked,
 but not repeating audio?
In-Reply-To: <CAH4Rvb+C4Giopcv64YMBvG5pjyYX1mnBYUP1KhRfWTtJxR1=KQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1fc649ca-74d7-0539-6fad-7f4bd7af7e41@bryanfields.net>
 <CAH4RvbLXqXF2+wyZgSMCNKHou3TgXWALmnhLD0Sjo7_-b4Hx-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <d414bcef-bbda-bc5f-e310-7ad4c053f7d1@bryanfields.net>
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Message-ID: <55b58c3c-21f3-38dd-cd25-378dd0705d3c@bryanfields.net>

On 10/31/17 4:05 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
> If it is APP_RPT its out of my hands. Whats the uptime on it? 124.5 GiB on
> your loopback seems a lot. Then again maybe not. How about your firewall
> logs and message logs?

Well the firewall's not going to have anything to do with it and about the
only thing I see in the asterisk debug log is:

"chan_iax2.c: chan_iax2: ast_sched_runq ran 42 scheduled tasks all at once"
That repeats for some time.

Box has been up for:
 17:34:23 up 560 days,  2:06,  5 users,  load average: 0.17, 0.26, 0.26

It sits and loafs most of the time, I rarely link to others.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Tue Oct 31 21:43:55 2017
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:43:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes on same server linked,
 but not repeating audio?
In-Reply-To: <55b58c3c-21f3-38dd-cd25-378dd0705d3c@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710311742190.11538-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Hi Brian,

What is the Asterisk uptime?

Does any telemetry get passed between nodes--e.g.: if COS is raised on the 
first node, the the connected nodes follow with PTT?

73, David KB4FXC




From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Tue Oct 31 22:01:09 2017
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 18:01:09 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Nodes on same server linked,
 but not repeating audio?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710311742190.11538-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1710311742190.11538-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <498753ca-9b56-bc85-3cba-6b0b1f5cabb4@bryanfields.net>

On 10/31/17 5:43 PM, David McGough wrote:
> What is the Asterisk uptime?

I had to restart it (drive time users), but it was running since October 6 at
about 9:17 EST.  So about 25 days.

> Does any telemetry get passed between nodes--e.g.: if COS is raised on the 
> first node, the the connected nodes follow with PTT?

No, it was like it was unlinked, no keyup on 40821 if 41618 was active.  Other
than the linking all the nodes were working fine.

I have a debug log I can post if you think it will help.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net