From rachel at olivero.us Sat Dec 1 10:09:04 2018 From: rachel at olivero.us (Rachel Olivero) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 05:09:04 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base In-Reply-To: <04ca01d48903$156b5590$404200b0$@gmail.com> References: <04ca01d48903$156b5590$404200b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin, I have a TM-D700 functioning as a remote base with a URI and a Pi 3. There are presently a couple of issues: 1. I had to set carrierfrom=no in simpleusb.conf in order to hear anything on repeaters after I unkey. Using usb didn't detect the presence of a carrier and pass audio until a new signal was detected. 2. When accessing the node with iaxrpt, I have to restart asterisk each time I disconnect. Otherwise no audio comes through. I can manually enter a frequency and control offset, tone, and power. Hope that helps. Rachel AD9O On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, at 18:19, Kevin Babich wrote: > Greetings, > > Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with full Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you please share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? > > Kindest Regards, > > Kevin Babich | N9IAA > Valparaiso, IN 46383 > > Mobile: 219.406.9707 > > Cessna 421 > Cesssna Conquest I/II > Beechcraft King Air 90/200 > > ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 12:37 PM Kevin Babich wrote: > Tim, > > > > I thought I?d more correctly make a request, as such, please find: > > > > From the overview map, where pins are displayed, where a site hosts > multiple repeaters under one user/call sign, a list of the frequencies at > the site would be ideal. For reference, my site pin lists only one > repeater (in this case, my 10m system). The other systems, are not shown. > > > > Kindest Regards, > > > > Kevin Babich | N9IAA > > Valparaiso, IN 46383 > > > > Mobile: 219.406.9707 > > > > Cessna 421 > > Cesssna Conquest I/II > > Beechcraft King Air 90/200 > > > > ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the > strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them > better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose > face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who > errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without > error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who > knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a > worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high > achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring > greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls > who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users *On > Behalf Of *Tim Sawyer > *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 1:14 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] It?s almost here > > > > Someone requested a better favicon and there was another request for > better visibility of the nodes list status page link. Both of those > requests are complete. > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:45 AM Tim Sawyer wrote: > > We might actually have a new allstarlink.org site before long. The admin > and developer teams have been busy getting ready for the move. We want to > make the transition as smooth as possible and we can use your help to do > that. The new site needs to be tested as much as possible before roll out. > > > > Could you please use web-tpa.allstarlink.org for your normal > Allstarlink.org activities? Please post here > if you find anything that is not working, not clear as to how it works, > missing stuff, spelling errors, usability or any other comments you might > have. > > > > -- > > Tim WD6AWP > > > > > -- > > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thomas Jefferson On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich wrote: > Greetings, > > > > Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with full > Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you please > share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? > > > > Kindest Regards, > > > > Kevin Babich | N9IAA > > Valparaiso, IN 46383 > > > > Mobile: 219.406.9707 > > > > Cessna 421 > > Cesssna Conquest I/II > > Beechcraft King Air 90/200 > > > > ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the > strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them > better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose > face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who > errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without > error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who > knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a > worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high > achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring > greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls > who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Babich 219.406.9707 Mobile ***Mobile EMail*** Please excuse any typos and brevity. > On Dec 1, 2018, at 3:50 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Yes, Both the TM-271 and the TM-D700. > > TM-271a using a Raspberry Pi, USB programming cable and a URI. > TM-D700 old school using the 4 port AllStarLink card that Steve (WA6ZFT) and Jim (WB6NIL) designed. > > David > > > -- > Thanks, David > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." > Thomas Jefferson > > >> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> >> >> Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with full Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you please share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? >> >> >> >> Kindest Regards, >> >> >> >> Kevin Babich | N9IAA >> >> Valparaiso, IN 46383 >> >> >> >> Mobile: 219.406.9707 >> >> >> >> Cessna 421 >> >> Cesssna Conquest I/II >> >> Beechcraft King Air 90/200 >> >> >> >> ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From n6kmr at frontiernet.net Sun Dec 2 00:02:13 2018 From: n6kmr at frontiernet.net (Jim Hertel) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 16:02:13 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] step by step instructions? Message-ID: I have Pi 3 & RIM-RC210 and wanting to set up the Pi to hook up to the RC210, Ok, that's easy but I need to find step by step instructions of how to set it up from the start. Programing the PI3 to function an allstar operation. I am some what overwhelmed by which way to go here and where to start... Feeling really stupid right now... I guess age has something to do with it... You know what's really going to P me off is, it's probably real simple and a child of 10 could do it !! Jim N6KMR From Benjamin at Project23D.com Sun Dec 2 05:26:04 2018 From: Benjamin at Project23D.com (Benjamin Naber) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 23:26:04 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] step by step instructions? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1543728364.15457.3.camel@Project23D.com> wb4ulk.com has listed his trials and tribulations setting things up. also, wiki.allstarlink.org remember volunteers do things as they have time. But everyone can volunteer. Learn. Do. Perfect. Pass on. Benjamin, KB9LFZ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hertel Reply-to: Users of Asterisk app_rpt To: App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] step by step instructions? Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 16:02:13 -0800 I have Pi 3 & RIM-RC210 and wanting to set up the Pi to hook up to the? RC210, Ok, that's easy but I need to find step by step instructions of? how to set it up from the start. Programing the PI3 to function an? allstar operation. I am some what overwhelmed by which way to go here? and where to start... Feeling really stupid right now... I guess age has? something to do with it... You know what's really going to P me off is, it's probably real simple? and a child of 10 could do it !! Jim N6KMR _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.? From marco.brunozzi at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 15:13:30 2018 From: marco.brunozzi at gmail.com (Marco Brunozzi) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 16:13:30 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstarlink newbie Message-ID: Hi everyone, I trying to setting up my first asl node. I don't have experiences in this years I had work with svxlink. The migration it's very hard. :-) Below the asterisk log. Thanks in advance. 73 Marco IW0RED. pbx_config.so => (Text Extension Configuration) == Registered file format ogg_vorbis, extension(s) ogg format_ogg_vorbis.so => (OGG/Vorbis audio) == Registered channel type 'rtpdir' (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Driver) chan_rtpdir.so => (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Thingy) Asterisk Ready. -- Loading initial config for repeater 28163 [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1223]: app_rpt.c:22184 rpt_master: Normal Repeater Init 28163 -- Re-Loading config for repeater 28163 -- rpt (Rx) initiating call to SimpleUSB/usb_28163 on SimpleUSB/usb_28163 [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1227]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'DAHDI' rpt:Sorry unable to obtain pseudo channel [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1534 hidthread: Assigned USB device 5-1:1.0 to simpleusb channel usb_28163 == Set device 5-1:1.0 to usb_28163 [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1637 hidthread: Loaded parameters from simpleusb_tune_usb_28163.conf for device usb_28163 . -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From russell at kv4s.com Sun Dec 2 19:01:24 2018 From: russell at kv4s.com (Russell Thomas) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 13:01:24 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] node isn't getting updated callsign? Message-ID: I'm using node 41605 as the main dashboard for K2HZE who had a callsign change sometime in the past and was KB2HZE. I changed the callsign on AllstarLink. Remote dashboard: http://173.199.114.204/allmon2 Local Dashboard: http://45.77.204.214/allmon2/link.php?nodes=41604 I also used my personal node to connect to 41604 and it's showing the right callsign the issue appears limited to 41605. any ideas? 73, Russell Thomas, KV4S -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Dec 2 23:56:37 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 18:56:37 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] node isn't getting updated callsign? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Clear your browsers cache. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/2/2018 2:01 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: > I'm using node 41605 as the main dashboard for K2HZE who had a > callsign change sometime in the past and was KB2HZE. > > I changed the callsign on AllstarLink. > > Remote dashboard: > http://173.199.114.204/allmon2 > > Local Dashboard: > http://45.77.204.214/allmon2/link.php?nodes=41604 > > I also used my personal node to connect to 41604 and it's showing the > right callsign the issue appears limited to 41605. > > any ideas? > > 73, > Russell Thomas, KV4S > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Dec 3 00:06:44 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 19:06:44 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstarlink newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marco, I can't make heads or tails of your log. Perhaps just state what you want to have when done with your server, what you have completed, and what is not working. Be sure to mention the hardware PC or Pi etc usb/radio ports etc. Probably would not hurt to attach your rpt.conf file with your question by the looks of the log. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/2/2018 10:13 AM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > Hi everyone, I trying to setting up my first asl node. I don't have > experiences in this years I had work with svxlink. The migration it's > very hard. :-) Below the asterisk log. > Thanks in advance. > 73 Marco IW0RED. > > pbx_config.so => (Text Extension Configuration) > == Registered file format ogg_vorbis, extension(s) ogg > format_ogg_vorbis.so => (OGG/Vorbis audio) > == Registered channel type 'rtpdir' (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Driver) > chan_rtpdir.so => (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Thingy) > Asterisk Ready. > -- Loading initial config for repeater 28163 > [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1223]: app_rpt.c:22184 rpt_master: Normal > Repeater Init 28163 > -- Re-Loading config for repeater 28163 > -- rpt (Rx) initiating call to SimpleUSB/usb_28163 on SimpleUSB/usb_28163 > [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1227]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No > channel type registered for 'DAHDI' > rpt:Sorry unable to obtain pseudo channel > [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1534 hidthread: > Assigned USB device 5-1:1.0 to simpleusb channel usb_28163 > == Set device 5-1:1.0 to usb_28163 > [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1637 hidthread: > Loaded parameters from simpleusb_tune_usb_28163.conf for device > usb_28163 . > From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Dec 3 00:20:44 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 19:20:44 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] node isn't getting updated callsign? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89c3ad78-eae1-0b1f-3065-7f223d7666c1@midnighteng.com> Russell, Sorry, I did not notice that call on the other node. Yes, it does appear to be different. For allmon you might need to force the file to update. Perhaps delete the astdb.txt and renew. So kinda the same problem only different. LOL FYI it has been changed by the way it shows at ASL. So it's just the local allmon file on the server that has not caught up. It should shortly if you wish to do nothing. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/2/2018 2:01 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: > I'm using node 41605 as the main dashboard for K2HZE who had a > callsign change sometime in the past and was KB2HZE. > > I changed the callsign on AllstarLink. > > Remote dashboard: > http://173.199.114.204/allmon2 > > Local Dashboard: > http://45.77.204.214/allmon2/link.php?nodes=41604 > > I also used my personal node to connect to 41604 and it's showing the > right callsign the issue appears limited to 41605. > > any ideas? > > 73, > Russell Thomas, KV4S > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Thomas Jefferson On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:10 PM Kevin Babich wrote: > David, > > Would you be willing to share the implementation? I?d like to plagiarize > your method for programming the 271. > > Best, > > Kevin J. Babich > > 219.406.9707 Mobile > > ***Mobile EMail*** > > Please excuse any typos and brevity. > > On Dec 1, 2018, at 3:50 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Yes, Both the TM-271 and the TM-D700. > > TM-271a using a Raspberry Pi, USB programming cable and a URI. > TM-D700 old school using the 4 port AllStarLink card that Steve (WA6ZFT) > and Jim (WB6NIL) designed. > > David > > > -- > Thanks, David > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > Thomas Jefferson > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> >> >> Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with full >> Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you please >> share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? >> >> >> >> Kindest Regards, >> >> >> >> Kevin Babich | N9IAA >> >> Valparaiso, IN 46383 >> >> >> >> Mobile: 219.406.9707 >> >> >> >> Cessna 421 >> >> Cesssna Conquest I/II >> >> Beechcraft King Air 90/200 >> >> >> >> ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the >> strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them >> better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose >> face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who >> errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without >> error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who >> knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a >> worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high >> achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring >> greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls >> who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." > Thomas Jefferson > > >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:10 PM Kevin Babich wrote: >> David, >> >> Would you be willing to share the implementation? I?d like to plagiarize your method for programming the 271. >> >> Best, >> >> Kevin J. Babich >> >> 219.406.9707 Mobile >> >> ***Mobile EMail*** >> >> Please excuse any typos and brevity. >> >>> On Dec 1, 2018, at 3:50 PM, David Shaw wrote: >>> >>> Yes, Both the TM-271 and the TM-D700. >>> >>> TM-271a using a Raspberry Pi, USB programming cable and a URI. >>> TM-D700 old school using the 4 port AllStarLink card that Steve (WA6ZFT) and Jim (WB6NIL) designed. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, David >>> >>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." >>> Thomas Jefferson >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich wrote: >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with full Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you please share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kindest Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kevin Babich | N9IAA >>>> >>>> Valparaiso, IN 46383 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mobile: 219.406.9707 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cessna 421 >>>> >>>> Cesssna Conquest I/II >>>> >>>> Beechcraft King Air 90/200 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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In-Reply-To: <89c3ad78-eae1-0b1f-3065-7f223d7666c1@midnighteng.com> References: <89c3ad78-eae1-0b1f-3065-7f223d7666c1@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: It's been like that since Friday. So if I delete the file how do I manually renew it? On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 6:20 PM Mike Russell, > > Sorry, I did not notice that call on the other node. > > Yes, it does appear to be different. > For allmon you might need to force the file to update. > > Perhaps delete the astdb.txt and renew. > > So kinda the same problem only different. LOL > > FYI it has been changed by the way it shows at ASL. So it's just the local > allmon file on the server that has not caught up. It should shortly if you > wish to do nothing. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/2/2018 2:01 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: > > I'm using node 41605 as the main dashboard for K2HZE who had a callsign > change sometime in the past and was KB2HZE. > > I changed the callsign on AllstarLink. > > Remote dashboard: > http://173.199.114.204/allmon2 > > Local Dashboard: > http://45.77.204.214/allmon2/link.php?nodes=41604 > > I also used my personal node to connect to 41604 and it's showing the > right callsign the issue appears limited to 41605. > > any ideas? > > 73, > Russell Thomas, KV4S > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.orghttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From kc8qch at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 02:54:28 2018 From: kc8qch at gmail.com (kc8qch at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 21:54:28 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] node isn't getting updated callsign? In-Reply-To: References: <89c3ad78-eae1-0b1f-3065-7f223d7666c1@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <00d601d48ab3$82324a60$8696df20$@gmail.com> Cd /var/www/(where you have allmon installed) If root -> ./astdb.php If not -> sudo ./astdb.php Jeff Lehman, KC8QCH E-mail: kc8qch at gmail.com Hamshack Hotline: 4218 Webmaster Hamilton County ARPSC http://www.hamcoarpsc.org E-mail: hamcoarpsc at gmail.com Phone: 513-452-6480 Allstar 47374 Administrator World Wide Amateur Radio Guild http://www.theguildglobal.org E-Mail: kc8qch at theguildglobal.net From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Russell Thomas Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 21:53 To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] node isn't getting updated callsign? It's been like that since Friday. So if I delete the file how do I manually renew it? On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 6:20 PM Mike wrote: Russell, Sorry, I did not notice that call on the other node. Yes, it does appear to be different. For allmon you might need to force the file to update. Perhaps delete the astdb.txt and renew. So kinda the same problem only different. LOL FYI it has been changed by the way it shows at ASL. So it's just the local allmon file on the server that has not caught up. It should shortly if you wish to do nothing. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/2/2018 2:01 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: I'm using node 41605 as the main dashboard for K2HZE who had a callsign change sometime in the past and was KB2HZE. I changed the callsign on AllstarLink. Remote dashboard: http://173.199.114.204/allmon2 Local Dashboard: http://45.77.204.214/allmon2/link.php?nodes=41604 I also used my personal node to connect to 41604 and it's showing the right callsign the issue appears limited to 41605. any ideas? 73, Russell Thomas, KV4S _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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In-Reply-To: References: <89c3ad78-eae1-0b1f-3065-7f223d7666c1@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: Russell, Jeff did give you a quick correct answer on that but if you tried it and had no luck, you probably need to check permissions to allow astdb.php to be executed. Then make sure you place a line in your crontab to update it periodically. Once a day or twice a week is plenty. I can see your file from the web and it is the same. So it surely has not updated in your system as it has in mine. Be sure you are acting in the correct directory /var/www/allmon ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/2/2018 9:52 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: > It's been like that since Friday. So if I delete the file how do I > manually renew it? > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 6:20 PM Mike wrote: > > Russell, > > Sorry, I did not notice that call on the other node. > > Yes, it does appear to be different. > > For allmon you might need to force the file to update. > > Perhaps delete the astdb.txt and renew. > > So kinda the same problem only different. LOL > > FYI it has been changed by the way it shows at ASL. So it's just > the local allmon file on the server that has not caught up. It > should shortly if you wish to do nothing. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/2/2018 2:01 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: >> I'm using node 41605 as the main dashboard for K2HZE who had a >> callsign change sometime in the past and was KB2HZE. >> >> I changed the callsign on AllstarLink. >> >> Remote dashboard: >> http://173.199.114.204/allmon2 >> >> Local Dashboard: >> http://45.77.204.214/allmon2/link.php?nodes=41604 >> >> I also used my personal node to connect to 41604 and it's showing >> the right callsign the issue appears limited to 41605. >> >> any ideas? >> >> 73, >> Russell Thomas, KV4S >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email > address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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In-Reply-To: References: <89c3ad78-eae1-0b1f-3065-7f223d7666c1@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: thanks everyone, got it updated! On an ASL image I'm not actually sure how to check permissions or setup crontab jobs.... any advice? On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 7:20 AM Mike wrote: > Russell, > > Jeff did give you a quick correct answer on that but if you tried it and > had no luck, > > you probably need to check permissions to allow astdb.php to be executed. > > Then make sure you place a line in your crontab to update it periodically. > > Once a day or twice a week is plenty. > > I can see your file from the web and it is the same. > > So it surely has not updated in your system as it has in mine. > > Be sure you are acting in the correct directory > > /var/www/allmon > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/2/2018 9:52 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: > > It's been like that since Friday. So if I delete the file how do I > manually renew it? > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 6:20 PM Mike >> Russell, >> >> Sorry, I did not notice that call on the other node. >> >> Yes, it does appear to be different. >> For allmon you might need to force the file to update. >> >> Perhaps delete the astdb.txt and renew. >> >> So kinda the same problem only different. LOL >> >> FYI it has been changed by the way it shows at ASL. So it's just the >> local allmon file on the server that has not caught up. It should shortly >> if you wish to do nothing. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> >> On 12/2/2018 2:01 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: >> >> I'm using node 41605 as the main dashboard for K2HZE who had a callsign >> change sometime in the past and was KB2HZE. >> >> I changed the callsign on AllstarLink. >> >> Remote dashboard: >> http://173.199.114.204/allmon2 >> >> Local Dashboard: >> http://45.77.204.214/allmon2/link.php?nodes=41604 >> >> I also used my personal node to connect to 41604 and it's showing the >> right callsign the issue appears limited to 41605. >> >> any ideas? >> >> 73, >> Russell Thomas, KV4S >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.orghttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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In-Reply-To: References: <89c3ad78-eae1-0b1f-3065-7f223d7666c1@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: Test. 73 Marco IW0RED On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 6:03 PM Russell Thomas wrote: > > > thanks everyone, got it updated! > > On an ASL image I'm not actually sure how to check permissions or setup crontab jobs.... any advice? > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 7:20 AM Mike wrote: >> >> Russell, >> >> Jeff did give you a quick correct answer on that but if you tried it and had no luck, >> >> you probably need to check permissions to allow astdb.php to be executed. >> >> Then make sure you place a line in your crontab to update it periodically. >> >> Once a day or twice a week is plenty. >> >> I can see your file from the web and it is the same. >> >> So it surely has not updated in your system as it has in mine. >> >> Be sure you are acting in the correct directory >> >> /var/www/allmon >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> >> On 12/2/2018 9:52 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: >> >> It's been like that since Friday. So if I delete the file how do I manually renew it? >> >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 6:20 PM Mike >> >>> Russell, >>> >>> Sorry, I did not notice that call on the other node. >>> >>> Yes, it does appear to be different. >>> >>> For allmon you might need to force the file to update. >>> >>> Perhaps delete the astdb.txt and renew. >>> >>> So kinda the same problem only different. LOL >>> >>> FYI it has been changed by the way it shows at ASL. So it's just the local allmon file on the server that has not caught up. It should shortly if you wish to do nothing. >>> >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> >>> On 12/2/2018 2:01 PM, Russell Thomas wrote: >>> >>> I'm using node 41605 as the main dashboard for K2HZE who had a callsign change sometime in the past and was KB2HZE. >>> >>> I changed the callsign on AllstarLink. >>> >>> Remote dashboard: >>> http://173.199.114.204/allmon2 >>> >>> Local Dashboard: >>> http://45.77.204.214/allmon2/link.php?nodes=41604 >>> >>> I also used my personal node to connect to 41604 and it's showing the right callsign the issue appears limited to 41605. >>> >>> any ideas? >>> >>> 73, >>> Russell Thomas, KV4S >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From shawpbx at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 22:35:56 2018 From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:35:56 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base In-Reply-To: <67A840C6-01A4-47ED-B336-7EE9DD484B0A@gmail.com> References: <04ca01d48903$156b5590$404200b0$@gmail.com> <67A840C6-01A4-47ED-B336-7EE9DD484B0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: rpt.conf [2064] rxchannel = Zap/2 ; Rx audio/signalling channel remote = tm271 ; Enable to support Kenwood TMG-707 ioport=/dev/ttyUSB0 functions = remote-functions ; Remote function list ;telemetry=telemetry2 statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; Remote function table [remote-functions] 0=remote,1 ; Retrieve Memory 1=remote,2 ; Set freq. 2=remote,3 ; Set tx PL tone 3=remote,4 ; Set rx PL tone 40=remote,100 ; Rx PL off 41=remote,101 ; Rx PL on 42=remote,102 ; Tx PL off 43=remote,103 ; Tx PL on 44=remote,104 ; Low Power 45=remote,105 ; Medium Power 46=remote,106 ; High Power ;711=remote,107 ; Bump -20 ;714=remote,108 ; Bump -100 ;717=remote,109 ; Bump -500 ;713=remote,110 ; Bump +20 ;716=remote,111 ; Bump +100 ;719=remote,112 ; Bump +500 ;721=remote,113 ; Scan - slow ;724=remote,114 ; Scan - quick ;727=remote,115 ; Scan - fast ;723=remote,116 ; Scan + slow ;726=remote,117 ; Scan + quick ;729=remote,118 ; Scan + fast ;79=remote,119 ; Tune 51=remote,5 ; Long status query 52=remote,140 ; Short status query ;6=remote,6 ; Set mode ;8=remote,99 ; remote base log in ;9=cop,6 ; Phone PTT command 8226242=remote,99,WB6NIL,G ;Jim 80401=remote,99,WA6ZFT,E ;Steve 80113=remote,99,KE6UPI,F ;David Shaw 80114=remote,99,W4WWM,T ;Will 80210=remote,99,WA6SYN,G ;Bob Hatfield 80211=remote,99,WD6V,G :David K. [nodes] ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. 2063 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2063,NONE ; This must be changed to your node number 2064 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2064,NONE,y **Extras** ; Memories for remote bases [memory] ; Call Simplex 11 = 146.520,100.0,sm ; Simplex 12 = 146.550,100.0,sm ; FARC FallBrook Red MTN 13 = 146.175,107.2,+mt ; GTARC Temecula, Ca 14 = 146.805,100.0,-mt [macro] 11 = *32064*42064*80113*011# ;2M Simplex 12 = *32064*42064*80113*012# ;2M Simplex 146.550 13 = *32064*42064*80113*013# ;Red MTN --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- iax.conf you'll need to add register=2064:297615 at register.allstarlink.org Later, I'll write up a howto for the TM271. -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:24 PM Kevin Babich wrote: > Dave, > > Wiring is straight forward, best as I can tell. Configuration for > programming, is my interest. > > Best, > > Kevin J. Babich > > 219.406.9707 Mobile > > ***Mobile EMail*** > > Please excuse any typos and brevity. > > On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:28 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Sorry I'm out of town. What are you looking for? Wiring or Configuration? > > > -- > Thanks, David > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > Thomas Jefferson > > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:10 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: > >> David, >> >> Would you be willing to share the implementation? I?d like to plagiarize >> your method for programming the 271. >> >> Best, >> >> Kevin J. Babich >> >> 219.406.9707 Mobile >> >> ***Mobile EMail*** >> >> Please excuse any typos and brevity. >> >> On Dec 1, 2018, at 3:50 PM, David Shaw wrote: >> >> Yes, Both the TM-271 and the TM-D700. >> >> TM-271a using a Raspberry Pi, USB programming cable and a URI. >> TM-D700 old school using the 4 port AllStarLink card that Steve (WA6ZFT) >> and Jim (WB6NIL) designed. >> >> David >> >> >> -- >> Thanks, David >> >> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are >> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things >> worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to >> encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with >> greater confidence than an armed one." >> Thomas Jefferson >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich >> wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> >>> >>> Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with >>> full Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you >>> please share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? >>> >>> >>> >>> Kindest Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Kevin Babich | N9IAA >>> >>> Valparaiso, IN 46383 >>> >>> >>> >>> Mobile: 219.406.9707 >>> >>> >>> >>> Cessna 421 >>> >>> Cesssna Conquest I/II >>> >>> Beechcraft King Air 90/200 >>> >>> >>> >>> ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the >>> strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them >>> better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose >>> face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who >>> errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without >>> error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who >>> knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a >>> worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high >>> achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring >>> greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls >>> who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From shawpbx at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 22:38:42 2018 From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:38:42 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base In-Reply-To: References: <04ca01d48903$156b5590$404200b0$@gmail.com> <67A840C6-01A4-47ED-B336-7EE9DD484B0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry, In the rpt.conf file under the node. You might need to change the: statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates Just use the sameones as your regular nodes. David -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:35 PM David Shaw wrote: > > > rpt.conf > [2064] > > rxchannel = Zap/2 ; Rx audio/signalling channel > remote = tm271 ; Enable to support Kenwood TMG-707 > ioport=/dev/ttyUSB0 > functions = remote-functions ; Remote function list > ;telemetry=telemetry2 > > statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null > statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates > > > ; Remote function table > > [remote-functions] > 0=remote,1 ; Retrieve Memory > 1=remote,2 ; Set freq. > 2=remote,3 ; Set tx PL tone > 3=remote,4 ; Set rx PL tone > 40=remote,100 ; Rx PL off > 41=remote,101 ; Rx PL on > 42=remote,102 ; Tx PL off > 43=remote,103 ; Tx PL on > 44=remote,104 ; Low Power > 45=remote,105 ; Medium Power > 46=remote,106 ; High Power > ;711=remote,107 ; Bump -20 > ;714=remote,108 ; Bump -100 > ;717=remote,109 ; Bump -500 > ;713=remote,110 ; Bump +20 > ;716=remote,111 ; Bump +100 > ;719=remote,112 ; Bump +500 > ;721=remote,113 ; Scan - slow > ;724=remote,114 ; Scan - quick > ;727=remote,115 ; Scan - fast > ;723=remote,116 ; Scan + slow > ;726=remote,117 ; Scan + quick > ;729=remote,118 ; Scan + fast > ;79=remote,119 ; Tune > 51=remote,5 ; Long status query > 52=remote,140 ; Short status query > ;6=remote,6 ; Set mode > ;8=remote,99 ; remote base log in > ;9=cop,6 ; Phone PTT command > 8226242=remote,99,WB6NIL,G ;Jim > 80401=remote,99,WA6ZFT,E ;Steve > 80113=remote,99,KE6UPI,F ;David Shaw > 80114=remote,99,W4WWM,T ;Will > 80210=remote,99,WA6SYN,G ;Bob Hatfield > 80211=remote,99,WD6V,G :David K. > > [nodes] > ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, > ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition > ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. > > 2063 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2063,NONE ; This must be changed to your > node number > 2064 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2064,NONE,y > > > > **Extras** > ; Memories for remote bases > > [memory] > > ; Call Simplex > 11 = 146.520,100.0,sm > ; Simplex > 12 = 146.550,100.0,sm > ; FARC FallBrook Red MTN > 13 = 146.175,107.2,+mt > ; GTARC Temecula, Ca > 14 = 146.805,100.0,-mt > > [macro] > 11 = *32064*42064*80113*011# ;2M Simplex > 12 = *32064*42064*80113*012# ;2M Simplex 146.550 > 13 = *32064*42064*80113*013# ;Red MTN > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > iax.conf you'll need to add > register=2064:297615 at register.allstarlink.org > > Later, I'll write up a howto for the TM271. > > > > > -- > Thanks, David > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > Thomas Jefferson > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:24 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> Wiring is straight forward, best as I can tell. Configuration for >> programming, is my interest. >> >> Best, >> >> Kevin J. Babich >> >> 219.406.9707 Mobile >> >> ***Mobile EMail*** >> >> Please excuse any typos and brevity. >> >> On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:28 PM, David Shaw wrote: >> >> Sorry I'm out of town. What are you looking for? Wiring or Configuration? >> >> >> -- >> Thanks, David >> >> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are >> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things >> worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to >> encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with >> greater confidence than an armed one." >> Thomas Jefferson >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:10 PM Kevin Babich >> wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> Would you be willing to share the implementation? I?d like to >>> plagiarize your method for programming the 271. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kevin J. Babich >>> >>> 219.406.9707 Mobile >>> >>> ***Mobile EMail*** >>> >>> Please excuse any typos and brevity. >>> >>> On Dec 1, 2018, at 3:50 PM, David Shaw wrote: >>> >>> Yes, Both the TM-271 and the TM-D700. >>> >>> TM-271a using a Raspberry Pi, USB programming cable and a URI. >>> TM-D700 old school using the 4 port AllStarLink card that Steve (WA6ZFT) >>> and Jim (WB6NIL) designed. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, David >>> >>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are >>> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things >>> worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to >>> encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with >>> greater confidence than an armed one." >>> Thomas Jefferson >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with >>>> full Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you >>>> please share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kindest Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kevin Babich | N9IAA >>>> >>>> Valparaiso, IN 46383 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mobile: 219.406.9707 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cessna 421 >>>> >>>> Cesssna Conquest I/II >>>> >>>> Beechcraft King Air 90/200 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the >>>> strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them >>>> better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose >>>> face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who >>>> errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without >>>> error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who >>>> knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a >>>> worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high >>>> achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring >>>> greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls >>>> who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From shawpbx at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 22:39:53 2018 From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:39:53 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base References: <04ca01d48903$156b5590$404200b0$@gmail.com> <67A840C6-01A4-47ED-B336-7EE9DD484B0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: I guess I should have read this. I'm using a 4 port card. So change the rxchannel = -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:38 PM David Shaw wrote: > Sorry, In the rpt.conf file under the node. You might need to change the: > > statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null > statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates > > Just use the sameones as your regular nodes. > > David > > > > -- > Thanks, David > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > Thomas Jefferson > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:35 PM David Shaw wrote: > >> >> >> rpt.conf >> [2064] >> >> rxchannel = Zap/2 ; Rx audio/signalling channel >> remote = tm271 ; Enable to support Kenwood TMG-707 >> ioport=/dev/ttyUSB0 >> functions = remote-functions ; Remote function list >> ;telemetry=telemetry2 >> >> statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null >> statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates >> >> >> ; Remote function table >> >> [remote-functions] >> 0=remote,1 ; Retrieve Memory >> 1=remote,2 ; Set freq. >> 2=remote,3 ; Set tx PL tone >> 3=remote,4 ; Set rx PL tone >> 40=remote,100 ; Rx PL off >> 41=remote,101 ; Rx PL on >> 42=remote,102 ; Tx PL off >> 43=remote,103 ; Tx PL on >> 44=remote,104 ; Low Power >> 45=remote,105 ; Medium Power >> 46=remote,106 ; High Power >> ;711=remote,107 ; Bump -20 >> ;714=remote,108 ; Bump -100 >> ;717=remote,109 ; Bump -500 >> ;713=remote,110 ; Bump +20 >> ;716=remote,111 ; Bump +100 >> ;719=remote,112 ; Bump +500 >> ;721=remote,113 ; Scan - slow >> ;724=remote,114 ; Scan - quick >> ;727=remote,115 ; Scan - fast >> ;723=remote,116 ; Scan + slow >> ;726=remote,117 ; Scan + quick >> ;729=remote,118 ; Scan + fast >> ;79=remote,119 ; Tune >> 51=remote,5 ; Long status query >> 52=remote,140 ; Short status query >> ;6=remote,6 ; Set mode >> ;8=remote,99 ; remote base log in >> ;9=cop,6 ; Phone PTT command >> 8226242=remote,99,WB6NIL,G ;Jim >> 80401=remote,99,WA6ZFT,E ;Steve >> 80113=remote,99,KE6UPI,F ;David Shaw >> 80114=remote,99,W4WWM,T ;Will >> 80210=remote,99,WA6SYN,G ;Bob Hatfield >> 80211=remote,99,WD6V,G :David K. >> >> [nodes] >> ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, >> ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition >> ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. >> >> 2063 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2063,NONE ; This must be changed to your >> node number >> 2064 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2064,NONE,y >> >> >> >> **Extras** >> ; Memories for remote bases >> >> [memory] >> >> ; Call Simplex >> 11 = 146.520,100.0,sm >> ; Simplex >> 12 = 146.550,100.0,sm >> ; FARC FallBrook Red MTN >> 13 = 146.175,107.2,+mt >> ; GTARC Temecula, Ca >> 14 = 146.805,100.0,-mt >> >> [macro] >> 11 = *32064*42064*80113*011# ;2M Simplex >> 12 = *32064*42064*80113*012# ;2M Simplex 146.550 >> 13 = *32064*42064*80113*013# ;Red MTN >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> iax.conf you'll need to add >> register=2064:297615 at register.allstarlink.org >> >> Later, I'll write up a howto for the TM271. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks, David >> >> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are >> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things >> worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to >> encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with >> greater confidence than an armed one." >> Thomas Jefferson >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:24 PM Kevin Babich >> wrote: >> >>> Dave, >>> >>> Wiring is straight forward, best as I can tell. Configuration for >>> programming, is my interest. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Kevin J. Babich >>> >>> 219.406.9707 Mobile >>> >>> ***Mobile EMail*** >>> >>> Please excuse any typos and brevity. >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:28 PM, David Shaw wrote: >>> >>> Sorry I'm out of town. What are you looking for? Wiring or Configuration? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, David >>> >>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are >>> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things >>> worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to >>> encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with >>> greater confidence than an armed one." >>> Thomas Jefferson >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:10 PM Kevin Babich >>> wrote: >>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> Would you be willing to share the implementation? I?d like to >>>> plagiarize your method for programming the 271. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Kevin J. Babich >>>> >>>> 219.406.9707 Mobile >>>> >>>> ***Mobile EMail*** >>>> >>>> Please excuse any typos and brevity. >>>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2018, at 3:50 PM, David Shaw wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, Both the TM-271 and the TM-D700. >>>> >>>> TM-271a using a Raspberry Pi, USB programming cable and a URI. >>>> TM-D700 old school using the 4 port AllStarLink card that Steve >>>> (WA6ZFT) and Jim (WB6NIL) designed. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks, David >>>> >>>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are >>>> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things >>>> worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to >>>> encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with >>>> greater confidence than an armed one." >>>> Thomas Jefferson >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with >>>>> full Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you >>>>> please share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kindest Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kevin Babich | N9IAA >>>>> >>>>> Valparaiso, IN 46383 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mobile: 219.406.9707 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cessna 421 >>>>> >>>>> Cesssna Conquest I/II >>>>> >>>>> Beechcraft King Air 90/200 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the >>>>> strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them >>>>> better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose >>>>> face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who >>>>> errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without >>>>> error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who >>>>> knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a >>>>> worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high >>>>> achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring >>>>> greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls >>>>> who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From kevin.babich at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 22:46:58 2018 From: kevin.babich at gmail.com (Kevin Babich) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 16:46:58 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base In-Reply-To: References: <04ca01d48903$156b5590$404200b0$@gmail.com> <67A840C6-01A4-47ED-B336-7EE9DD484B0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <070001d48b5a$19589420$4c09bc60$@gmail.com> David, thank you. Implementation of a TM-271 with a USB programming cable is the real essence of your swanky implementation.. Please share this, should you have it available. I might be inclined to use a dual band TM-V71A, as I have a new one sitting unused. I suspect they will interface similarly, save for some of the dual band features. Kindest Regards, Kevin Babich | N9IAA Valparaiso, IN 46383 Mobile: 219.406.9707 Cessna 421 Cesssna Conquest I/II Beechcraft King Air 90/200 ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of David Shaw Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 4:40 PM To: APP RPT Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Remote base I guess I should have read this. I'm using a 4 port card. So change the rxchannel = -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:38 PM David Shaw > wrote: Sorry, In the rpt.conf file under the node. You might need to change the: statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates Just use the sameones as your regular nodes. David -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:35 PM David Shaw > wrote: rpt.conf [2064] rxchannel = Zap/2 ; Rx audio/signalling channel remote = tm271 ; Enable to support Kenwood TMG-707 ioport=/dev/ttyUSB0 functions = remote-functions ; Remote function list ;telemetry=telemetry2 statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; Remote function table [remote-functions] 0=remote,1 ; Retrieve Memory 1=remote,2 ; Set freq. 2=remote,3 ; Set tx PL tone 3=remote,4 ; Set rx PL tone 40=remote,100 ; Rx PL off 41=remote,101 ; Rx PL on 42=remote,102 ; Tx PL off 43=remote,103 ; Tx PL on 44=remote,104 ; Low Power 45=remote,105 ; Medium Power 46=remote,106 ; High Power ;711=remote,107 ; Bump -20 ;714=remote,108 ; Bump -100 ;717=remote,109 ; Bump -500 ;713=remote,110 ; Bump +20 ;716=remote,111 ; Bump +100 ;719=remote,112 ; Bump +500 ;721=remote,113 ; Scan - slow ;724=remote,114 ; Scan - quick ;727=remote,115 ; Scan - fast ;723=remote,116 ; Scan + slow ;726=remote,117 ; Scan + quick ;729=remote,118 ; Scan + fast ;79=remote,119 ; Tune 51=remote,5 ; Long status query 52=remote,140 ; Short status query ;6=remote,6 ; Set mode ;8=remote,99 ; remote base log in ;9=cop,6 ; Phone PTT command 8226242=remote,99,WB6NIL,G ;Jim 80401=remote,99,WA6ZFT,E ;Steve 80113=remote,99,KE6UPI,F ;David Shaw 80114=remote,99,W4WWM,T ;Will 80210=remote,99,WA6SYN,G ;Bob Hatfield 80211=remote,99,WD6V,G :David K. [nodes] ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. 2063 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2063,NONE ; This must be changed to your node number 2064 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2064,NONE,y **Extras** ; Memories for remote bases [memory] ; Call Simplex 11 = 146.520,100.0,sm ; Simplex 12 = 146.550,100.0,sm ; FARC FallBrook Red MTN 13 = 146.175,107.2,+mt ; GTARC Temecula, Ca 14 = 146.805,100.0,-mt [macro] 11 = *32064*42064*80113*011# ;2M Simplex 12 = *32064*42064*80113*012# ;2M Simplex 146.550 13 = *32064*42064*80113*013# ;Red MTN --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- iax.conf you'll need to add register=2064:297615 at register.allstarlink.org Later, I'll write up a howto for the TM271. -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:24 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: Dave, Wiring is straight forward, best as I can tell. Configuration for programming, is my interest. Best, Kevin J. Babich 219.406.9707 Mobile ***Mobile EMail*** Please excuse any typos and brevity. On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:28 PM, David Shaw > wrote: Sorry I'm out of town. What are you looking for? Wiring or Configuration? -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:10 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: David, Would you be willing to share the implementation? I?d like to plagiarize your method for programming the 271. Best, Kevin J. Babich 219.406.9707 Mobile ***Mobile EMail*** Please excuse any typos and brevity. On Dec 1, 2018, at 3:50 PM, David Shaw > wrote: Yes, Both the TM-271 and the TM-D700. TM-271a using a Raspberry Pi, USB programming cable and a URI. TM-D700 old school using the 4 port AllStarLink card that Steve (WA6ZFT) and Jim (WB6NIL) designed. David -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: Greetings, Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with full Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you please share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? Kindest Regards, Kevin Babich | N9IAA Valparaiso, IN 46383 Mobile: 219.406.9707 Cessna 421 Cesssna Conquest I/II Beechcraft King Air 90/200 ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From shawpbx at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 23:30:57 2018 From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:30:57 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base In-Reply-To: <070001d48b5a$19589420$4c09bc60$@gmail.com> References: <04ca01d48903$156b5590$404200b0$@gmail.com> <67A840C6-01A4-47ED-B336-7EE9DD484B0A@gmail.com> <070001d48b5a$19589420$4c09bc60$@gmail.com> Message-ID: The usb has easy. In the rpt.conf file under the node statement. You'll see ioport=. To fine the ioport plugin the USB programming cable and run dmesg. I'll work on a howto later in the week or mid next week. -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:47 PM Kevin Babich wrote: > David, thank you. > > > > Implementation of a TM-271 with a USB programming cable is the real > essence of your swanky implementation.. Please share this, should you have > it available. I might be inclined to use a dual band TM-V71A, as I have a > new one sitting unused. I suspect they will interface similarly, save for > some of the dual band features. > > > > Kindest Regards, > > > > Kevin Babich | N9IAA > > Valparaiso, IN 46383 > > > > Mobile: 219.406.9707 > > > > Cessna 421 > > Cesssna Conquest I/II > > Beechcraft King Air 90/200 > > > > ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the > strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them > better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose > face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who > errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without > error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who > knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a > worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high > achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring > greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls > who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users *On > Behalf Of *David Shaw > *Sent:* Monday, December 3, 2018 4:40 PM > *To:* APP RPT > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Remote base > > > > I guess I should have read this. I'm using a 4 port card. So change the > rxchannel = > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, David > > > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > > Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:38 PM David Shaw wrote: > > Sorry, In the rpt.conf file under the node. You might need to change the: > > > statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null > > statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates > > > > Just use the sameones as your regular nodes. > > > > David > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, David > > > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > > Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 2:35 PM David Shaw wrote: > > > > > > rpt.conf > > [2064] > > > > rxchannel = Zap/2 ; Rx audio/signalling channel > > remote = tm271 ; Enable to support Kenwood TMG-707 > > ioport=/dev/ttyUSB0 > > functions = remote-functions ; Remote function list > > ;telemetry=telemetry2 > > > statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null > > statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates > > > > > > ; Remote function table > > > > [remote-functions] > > 0=remote,1 ; Retrieve Memory > > 1=remote,2 ; Set freq. > > 2=remote,3 ; Set tx PL tone > > 3=remote,4 ; Set rx PL tone > > 40=remote,100 ; Rx PL off > > 41=remote,101 ; Rx PL on > > 42=remote,102 ; Tx PL off > > 43=remote,103 ; Tx PL on > > 44=remote,104 ; Low Power > > 45=remote,105 ; Medium Power > > 46=remote,106 ; High Power > > ;711=remote,107 ; Bump -20 > > ;714=remote,108 ; Bump -100 > > ;717=remote,109 ; Bump -500 > > ;713=remote,110 ; Bump +20 > > ;716=remote,111 ; Bump +100 > > ;719=remote,112 ; Bump +500 > > ;721=remote,113 ; Scan - slow > > ;724=remote,114 ; Scan - quick > > ;727=remote,115 ; Scan - fast > > ;723=remote,116 ; Scan + slow > > ;726=remote,117 ; Scan + quick > > ;729=remote,118 ; Scan + fast > > ;79=remote,119 ; Tune > > 51=remote,5 ; Long status query > > 52=remote,140 ; Short status query > > ;6=remote,6 ; Set mode > > ;8=remote,99 ; remote base log in > > ;9=cop,6 ; Phone PTT command > > 8226242=remote,99,WB6NIL,G ;Jim > > 80401=remote,99,WA6ZFT,E ;Steve > > 80113=remote,99,KE6UPI,F ;David Shaw > > 80114=remote,99,W4WWM,T ;Will > > 80210=remote,99,WA6SYN,G ;Bob Hatfield > > 80211=remote,99,WD6V,G :David K. > > > > [nodes] > > ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, > > ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition > > ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. > > > > 2063 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2063,NONE ; This must be changed to your > node number > > 2064 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/2064,NONE,y > > > > > > > > **Extras** > > ; Memories for remote bases > > > > [memory] > > > > ; Call Simplex > > 11 = 146.520,100.0,sm > > ; Simplex > > 12 = 146.550,100.0,sm > > ; FARC FallBrook Red MTN > > 13 = 146.175,107.2,+mt > > ; GTARC Temecula, Ca > > 14 = 146.805,100.0,-mt > > > > [macro] > > 11 = *32064*42064*80113*011# ;2M Simplex > > 12 = *32064*42064*80113*012# ;2M Simplex 146.550 > > 13 = *32064*42064*80113*013# ;Red MTN > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > iax.conf you'll need to add > > register=2064:297615 at register.allstarlink.org > > > > Later, I'll write up a howto for the TM271. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, David > > > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > > Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 6:24 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: > > Dave, > > > > Wiring is straight forward, best as I can tell. Configuration for > programming, is my interest. > > > > Best, > > Kevin J. Babich > > > > 219.406.9707 Mobile > > > > ***Mobile EMail*** > > > > Please excuse any typos and brevity. > > > On Dec 2, 2018, at 7:28 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Sorry I'm out of town. What are you looking for? Wiring or Configuration? > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, David > > > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > > Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:10 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: > > David, > > > > Would you be willing to share the implementation? I?d like to plagiarize > your method for programming the 271. > > > > Best, > > Kevin J. Babich > > > > 219.406.9707 Mobile > > > > ***Mobile EMail*** > > > > Please excuse any typos and brevity. > > > On Dec 1, 2018, at 3:50 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Yes, Both the TM-271 and the TM-D700. > > > > TM-271a using a Raspberry Pi, USB programming cable and a URI. > > TM-D700 old school using the 4 port AllStarLink card that Steve (WA6ZFT) > and Jim (WB6NIL) designed. > > > > David > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, David > > > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > > Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kevin Babich > wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Has anyone successfully integrated a Kenwood radio into Allstar with full > Remote Base functionality (frequency, offset, etc.)? If so, can you please > share which radio was integrated / interfacing / etc.? > > > > Kindest Regards, > > > > Kevin Babich | N9IAA > > Valparaiso, IN 46383 > > > > Mobile: 219.406.9707 > > > > Cessna 421 > > Cesssna Conquest I/II > > Beechcraft King Air 90/200 > > > > ??It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the > strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them > better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose > face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who > errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without > error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who > knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a > worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high > achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring > greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls > who neither know victory nor defeat...? -Theodore Roosevelt > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Mon Dec 3 23:39:08 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:39:08 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote base In-Reply-To: References: <04ca01d48903$156b5590$404200b0$@gmail.com> <67A840C6-01A4-47ED-B336-7EE9DD484B0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1392e4e4-396f-d7f1-e3d0-2463b5436508@bryanfields.net> On 12/3/18 5:35 PM, David Shaw wrote: > iax.conf you'll need to add > register=2064:297615 at register.allstarlink.org I've changed the password on node 2064 for you. Please login to the portal to see the updated password. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From marco.brunozzi at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 12:21:42 2018 From: marco.brunozzi at gmail.com (Marco Brunozzi) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 13:21:42 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstarlink newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mike, thanks for the answer. I started with install armbian on banana m2+ (Linux ir0uas_uhf 3.4.113-sun8i #68 SMP PREEMPT Wed Sep 19 10:23:30 CEST 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux), after that I had following this instruction: cd /tmp wget http://dvswitch.org/install-allstarlink-repository chmod +x install-allstarlink-repository ./install-allstarlink-repository If Raspbian: apt-get install raspberrypi-kernel-headers -y Otherwise: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` -y apt-get update apt-get install allstarlink -y At the end of the installation process, I started the configuration with the help of startup script. Attached you can find the configuration files. 73 Marco IW0RED. On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 1:06 AM Mike wrote: > > Marco, > > I can't make heads or tails of your log. > > Perhaps just state what you want to have when done with your server, > > what you have completed, > > and what is not working. > > Be sure to mention the hardware PC or Pi etc usb/radio ports etc. > > Probably would not hurt to attach your rpt.conf file with your question > by the looks of the log. > > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/2/2018 10:13 AM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > > Hi everyone, I trying to setting up my first asl node. I don't have > > experiences in this years I had work with svxlink. The migration it's > > very hard. :-) Below the asterisk log. > > Thanks in advance. > > 73 Marco IW0RED. > > > > pbx_config.so => (Text Extension Configuration) > > == Registered file format ogg_vorbis, extension(s) ogg > > format_ogg_vorbis.so => (OGG/Vorbis audio) > > == Registered channel type 'rtpdir' (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Driver) > > chan_rtpdir.so => (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Thingy) > > Asterisk Ready. > > -- Loading initial config for repeater 28163 > > [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1223]: app_rpt.c:22184 rpt_master: Normal > > Repeater Init 28163 > > -- Re-Loading config for repeater 28163 > > -- rpt (Rx) initiating call to SimpleUSB/usb_28163 on SimpleUSB/usb_28163 > > [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1227]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No > > channel type registered for 'DAHDI' > > rpt:Sorry unable to obtain pseudo channel > > [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1534 hidthread: > > Assigned USB device 5-1:1.0 to simpleusb channel usb_28163 > > == Set device 5-1:1.0 to usb_28163 > > [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1637 hidthread: > > Loaded parameters from simpleusb_tune_usb_28163.conf for device > > usb_28163 . > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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David 73's KE6UPI On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 3:39 PM Bryan Fields On 12/3/18 5:35 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > iax.conf you'll need to add > > register=2064:297615 at register.allstarlink.org > > I've changed the password on node 2064 for you. > Please login to the portal to see the updated password. > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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(yes we are using older versions of the kernel till a fix come for sound support) I can only suggest you use the SD burnable image file located http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ and follow this guide http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme However, if you really want to keep pushing forward from where you are, I suggest this read. http://enhanced.github.io/2018/08/ASL_With_ALSA But the question is still out there if someone has got this to work on your OS. So perhaps a better answer will come. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/4/2018 7:21 AM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > Hi Mike, thanks for the answer. > I started with install armbian on banana m2+ (Linux ir0uas_uhf > 3.4.113-sun8i #68 SMP PREEMPT Wed Sep 19 10:23:30 CEST 2018 armv7l > GNU/Linux), after that I had following this instruction: > > cd /tmp > wget http://dvswitch.org/install-allstarlink-repository > > chmod +x install-allstarlink-repository > ./install-allstarlink-repository > > If Raspbian: apt-get install raspberrypi-kernel-headers -y > > Otherwise: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` -y > > apt-get update > apt-get install allstarlink -y > > At the end of the installation process, I started the configuration > with the help of startup script. > Attached you can find the configuration files. > > 73 Marco IW0RED. > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 1:06 AM Mike wrote: >> Marco, >> >> I can't make heads or tails of your log. >> >> Perhaps just state what you want to have when done with your server, >> >> what you have completed, >> >> and what is not working. >> >> Be sure to mention the hardware PC or Pi etc usb/radio ports etc. >> >> Probably would not hurt to attach your rpt.conf file with your question >> by the looks of the log. >> >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> >> On 12/2/2018 10:13 AM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: >>> Hi everyone, I trying to setting up my first asl node. I don't have >>> experiences in this years I had work with svxlink. The migration it's >>> very hard. :-) Below the asterisk log. >>> Thanks in advance. >>> 73 Marco IW0RED. >>> >>> pbx_config.so => (Text Extension Configuration) >>> == Registered file format ogg_vorbis, extension(s) ogg >>> format_ogg_vorbis.so => (OGG/Vorbis audio) >>> == Registered channel type 'rtpdir' (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Driver) >>> chan_rtpdir.so => (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Thingy) >>> Asterisk Ready. >>> -- Loading initial config for repeater 28163 >>> [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1223]: app_rpt.c:22184 rpt_master: Normal >>> Repeater Init 28163 >>> -- Re-Loading config for repeater 28163 >>> -- rpt (Rx) initiating call to SimpleUSB/usb_28163 on SimpleUSB/usb_28163 >>> [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1227]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No >>> channel type registered for 'DAHDI' >>> rpt:Sorry unable to obtain pseudo channel >>> [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1534 hidthread: >>> Assigned USB device 5-1:1.0 to simpleusb channel usb_28163 >>> == Set device 5-1:1.0 to usb_28163 >>> [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1637 hidthread: >>> Loaded parameters from simpleusb_tune_usb_28163.conf for device >>> usb_28163 . >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From steve at michiganbroadband.com Tue Dec 4 20:41:58 2018 From: steve at michiganbroadband.com (Steve Gladden) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 20:41:58 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] I'm back after 8 years, quick Audio interface question. Message-ID: <031eb4e8d0b74c8eb1188e13eacc106a@michiganbroadband.com> Hi I've not been on in about 7.5 years. Back then Jim Dixon was a regular contact and somebody I chatted with fairly often. So sad he is gone! Way back then the only supported simple sound interface was USB and required a CM108 or 109 chip and the idea of using anything else soundcardwise was just immediately shot down if asked. There were reasons (back then) for this and I think it was centered around the author not wanting to have to deal with the issues and support of it. I never cared about support or "all of the issues" it may cause on my end but lacked the technical know-how to write a "generic" audio driver myself. A LOT of linux software is NOT soundcard driver specific and works well with just about ANY sound interface that is on a motherboard or card or whatever. And I never needed the GPIO to be on the sound chip. Nor did I need all of the DSP functionality to be done in the CPU via the sound interface. I'm curious if there have been any developments since that allow more sound interfaces to work or is it still the same and require a CM108/109 type USB device? Thanks!! Steve N8LBV From mm at midnighteng.com Tue Dec 4 21:50:18 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 16:50:18 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] I'm back after 8 years, quick Audio interface question. In-Reply-To: <031eb4e8d0b74c8eb1188e13eacc106a@michiganbroadband.com> References: <031eb4e8d0b74c8eb1188e13eacc106a@michiganbroadband.com> Message-ID: <9c1a61e0-7721-e3c7-ea44-8721ecafa05e@midnighteng.com> Steve, While I have never tried it, I have always suspected if you usd the correct usb hub/device id/position and had the correct driver in the system, it would work. Wanted to do so myself but I have stacks of those CM108'S and use parallel port for all the switching. I don't think you need to write anything for the sound driver with no use of in/out pins. Just have the right driver for the device in the system. Sounds like a winter idea project revisited for me without good reason but I bet you will try it before me and let us know. Should be test to test but I haven't any other usb sound devices. Perhaps I am wrong about that but it seems to make sense as I see it. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/4/2018 3:41 PM, Steve Gladden wrote: > Hi I've not been on in about 7.5 years. > Back then Jim Dixon was a regular contact and somebody I chatted with fairly often. > So sad he is gone! > > Way back then the only supported simple sound interface was USB and required a CM108 or 109 chip and the idea of using anything else soundcardwise > was just immediately shot down if asked. > There were reasons (back then) for this and I think it was centered around the author not wanting to have to deal with the issues and support of it. > > I never cared about support or "all of the issues" it may cause on my end but lacked the technical know-how to write a "generic" audio driver myself. > A LOT of linux software is NOT soundcard driver specific and works well with just about ANY sound interface that is on a motherboard or card or whatever. > > And I never needed the GPIO to be on the sound chip. > Nor did I need all of the DSP functionality to be done in the CPU via the sound interface. > I'm curious if there have been any developments since that allow more sound interfaces to work or is it still the same and require a CM108/109 type USB device? > > > Thanks!! > > Steve > N8LBV > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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In-Reply-To: <9c1a61e0-7721-e3c7-ea44-8721ecafa05e@midnighteng.com> References: <031eb4e8d0b74c8eb1188e13eacc106a@michiganbroadband.com> <9c1a61e0-7721-e3c7-ea44-8721ecafa05e@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: I have tried a few usb sound card that were not cm108/9 chips and was not able to make it work even if it had the correct driver either as kernel module or compiled into the kernel Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le mar. 4 d?c. 2018 ? 16:50, Mike a ?crit : > Steve, > While I have never tried it, > I have always suspected if you usd the correct usb hub/device > id/position and had the correct driver in the system, it would work. > > Wanted to do so myself but I have stacks of those CM108'S and use > parallel port for all the switching. > > I don't think you need to write anything for the sound driver with no > use of in/out pins. Just have the right driver for the device in the > system. > > Sounds like a winter idea project revisited for me without good reason > but I bet you will try it before me and let us know. > Should be test to test but I haven't any other usb sound devices. > > Perhaps I am wrong about that but it seems to make sense as I see it. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/4/2018 3:41 PM, Steve Gladden wrote: > > Hi I've not been on in about 7.5 years. > > Back then Jim Dixon was a regular contact and somebody I chatted with > fairly often. > > So sad he is gone! > > > > Way back then the only supported simple sound interface was USB and > required a CM108 or 109 chip and the idea of using anything else > soundcardwise > > was just immediately shot down if asked. > > There were reasons (back then) for this and I think it was centered > around the author not wanting to have to deal with the issues and support > of it. > > > > I never cared about support or "all of the issues" it may cause on my > end but lacked the technical know-how to write a "generic" audio driver > myself. > > A LOT of linux software is NOT soundcard driver specific and works well > with just about ANY sound interface that is on a motherboard or card or > whatever. > > > > And I never needed the GPIO to be on the sound chip. > > Nor did I need all of the DSP functionality to be done in the CPU via > the sound interface. > > I'm curious if there have been any developments since that allow more > sound interfaces to work or is it still the same and require a CM108/109 > type USB device? > > > > > > Thanks!! > > > > Steve > > N8LBV > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From ke6pcv at cal-net.org Wed Dec 5 04:37:25 2018 From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 20:37:25 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] I'm back after 8 years, quick Audio interface question. In-Reply-To: <031eb4e8d0b74c8eb1188e13eacc106a@michiganbroadband.com> References: <031eb4e8d0b74c8eb1188e13eacc106a@michiganbroadband.com> Message-ID: <002f01d48c54$38a00660$a9e01320$@org> Steve, Folks have used the CM108/109 and CM119 and the SSS1623, which is a compatible chip. You can get a datasheet for the CM119 here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/voip/pdf/cm119-datasheet.pdf Here is one that you can use on Amazon for $6.20 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001MSS6CS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 His is another fob for $3.87 with free shipping. https://www.amazon.com/TOOGOO-Free-driver-Sound-CM108/dp/B0762GGVL3/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543 984569&sr=8-3&keywords=cm108+sound+card In the future the CM119B will probably be supported, just an educated guess. 73 Marshall - ke6pcv -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Steve Gladden Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 12:42 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: [App_rpt-users] I'm back after 8 years, quick Audio interface question. Hi I've not been on in about 7.5 years. Back then Jim Dixon was a regular contact and somebody I chatted with fairly often. So sad he is gone! Way back then the only supported simple sound interface was USB and required a CM108 or 109 chip and the idea of using anything else soundcardwise was just immediately shot down if asked. There were reasons (back then) for this and I think it was centered around the author not wanting to have to deal with the issues and support of it. I never cared about support or "all of the issues" it may cause on my end but lacked the technical know-how to write a "generic" audio driver myself. A LOT of linux software is NOT soundcard driver specific and works well with just about ANY sound interface that is on a motherboard or card or whatever. And I never needed the GPIO to be on the sound chip. Nor did I need all of the DSP functionality to be done in the CPU via the sound interface. I'm curious if there have been any developments since that allow more sound interfaces to work or is it still the same and require a CM108/109 type USB device? Thanks!! Steve N8LBV _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From waltcarter30 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 5 05:40:06 2018 From: waltcarter30 at yahoo.com (walter) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 22:40:06 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] I'm back after 8 years, quick Audio interface question. In-Reply-To: <002f01d48c54$38a00660$a9e01320$@org> References: <031eb4e8d0b74c8eb1188e13eacc106a@michiganbroadband.com> <002f01d48c54$38a00660$a9e01320$@org> Message-ID: <6DF471E9D39B4249953154003EE7B77B@Optiplex580PC> Hi Guys, I am using the SYBA fob on my node. It was easy to do the mod on. I tried the other one and the pads are so easy to peal off. Walt wb4lds -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Oldham Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 9:37 PM To: 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] I'm back after 8 years, quick Audio interface question. Steve, Folks have used the CM108/109 and CM119 and the SSS1623, which is a compatible chip. You can get a datasheet for the CM119 here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/voip/pdf/cm119-datasheet.pdf Here is one that you can use on Amazon for $6.20 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001MSS6CS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 His is another fob for $3.87 with free shipping. https://www.amazon.com/TOOGOO-Free-driver-Sound-CM108/dp/B0762GGVL3/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543 984569&sr=8-3&keywords=cm108+sound+card In the future the CM119B will probably be supported, just an educated guess. 73 Marshall - ke6pcv -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Steve Gladden Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 12:42 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: [App_rpt-users] I'm back after 8 years, quick Audio interface question. Hi I've not been on in about 7.5 years. Back then Jim Dixon was a regular contact and somebody I chatted with fairly often. So sad he is gone! Way back then the only supported simple sound interface was USB and required a CM108 or 109 chip and the idea of using anything else soundcardwise was just immediately shot down if asked. There were reasons (back then) for this and I think it was centered around the author not wanting to have to deal with the issues and support of it. I never cared about support or "all of the issues" it may cause on my end but lacked the technical know-how to write a "generic" audio driver myself. A LOT of linux software is NOT soundcard driver specific and works well with just about ANY sound interface that is on a motherboard or card or whatever. And I never needed the GPIO to be on the sound chip. Nor did I need all of the DSP functionality to be done in the CPU via the sound interface. I'm curious if there have been any developments since that allow more sound interfaces to work or is it still the same and require a CM108/109 type USB device? Thanks!! Steve N8LBV _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From marco.brunozzi at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 10:42:35 2018 From: marco.brunozzi at gmail.com (Marco Brunozzi) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 11:42:35 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstarlink newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, I'll make some test. 73 Marco IW0RED. On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 7:07 PM Mike wrote: > > Well Marco, > > I may not have a good answer for you but a answer. > > It seems you are trying to 'roll your own' on a Pi. > > I don't think I can help with those OS choices on a Pi. Unknown to me. > > You are no doubt suffering from the lack of sound support in your system. > > Same as our default image if you do not put a hold on the kernel headers before updating. > > (yes we are using older versions of the kernel till a fix come for sound support) > > > I can only suggest you use the SD burnable image file located > > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ > > and follow this guide > > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme > > However, if you really want to keep pushing forward from where you are, I suggest this read. > > http://enhanced.github.io/2018/08/ASL_With_ALSA > > > But the question is still out there if someone has got this to work on your OS. So perhaps a better answer will come. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/4/2018 7:21 AM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > > Hi Mike, thanks for the answer. > I started with install armbian on banana m2+ (Linux ir0uas_uhf > 3.4.113-sun8i #68 SMP PREEMPT Wed Sep 19 10:23:30 CEST 2018 armv7l > GNU/Linux), after that I had following this instruction: > > cd /tmp > wget http://dvswitch.org/install-allstarlink-repository > > chmod +x install-allstarlink-repository > ./install-allstarlink-repository > > If Raspbian: apt-get install raspberrypi-kernel-headers -y > > Otherwise: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` -y > > apt-get update > apt-get install allstarlink -y > > At the end of the installation process, I started the configuration > with the help of startup script. > Attached you can find the configuration files. > > 73 Marco IW0RED. > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 1:06 AM Mike wrote: > > Marco, > > I can't make heads or tails of your log. > > Perhaps just state what you want to have when done with your server, > > what you have completed, > > and what is not working. > > Be sure to mention the hardware PC or Pi etc usb/radio ports etc. > > Probably would not hurt to attach your rpt.conf file with your question > by the looks of the log. > > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/2/2018 10:13 AM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > > Hi everyone, I trying to setting up my first asl node. I don't have > experiences in this years I had work with svxlink. The migration it's > very hard. :-) Below the asterisk log. > Thanks in advance. > 73 Marco IW0RED. > > pbx_config.so => (Text Extension Configuration) > == Registered file format ogg_vorbis, extension(s) ogg > format_ogg_vorbis.so => (OGG/Vorbis audio) > == Registered channel type 'rtpdir' (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Driver) > chan_rtpdir.so => (RTPDIR Ham Radio Bridging Thingy) > Asterisk Ready. > -- Loading initial config for repeater 28163 > [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1223]: app_rpt.c:22184 rpt_master: Normal > Repeater Init 28163 > -- Re-Loading config for repeater 28163 > -- rpt (Rx) initiating call to SimpleUSB/usb_28163 on SimpleUSB/usb_28163 > [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1227]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No > channel type registered for 'DAHDI' > rpt:Sorry unable to obtain pseudo channel > [Dec 2 15:43:32] NOTICE[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1534 hidthread: > Assigned USB device 5-1:1.0 to simpleusb channel usb_28163 > == Set device 5-1:1.0 to usb_28163 > [Dec 2 15:43:32] WARNING[1228]: chan_simpleusb.c:1637 hidthread: > Loaded parameters from simpleusb_tune_usb_28163.conf for device > usb_28163 . > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From marco.brunozzi at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 21:15:12 2018 From: marco.brunozzi at gmail.com (Marco Brunozzi) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 22:15:12 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] asterisk version Message-ID: Hi everyone, I installed the allstar pi and i386 version. The first one is archlinux (4.14.31-1-ARCH #1 SMP Sat Mar 31 02:36:09 UTC 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux), the other is Debian (4.9.0-8-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.130-2 (2018-10-27) i686 GNU/Linux). I don't understand why there are two different versions of asterisk witch is: - ArchLinux: Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-48-app_rpt-0.327-11/24/2018 - Debian: Asterisk GIT Version 004b9dd Can you give me some points? Thanks in advans. 73 Marco IW0RED. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From Bryan at bryanfields.net Wed Dec 5 21:28:01 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:28:01 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] asterisk version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14ad4b8e-02b6-f5bf-9053-e80cf8547092@bryanfields.net> On 12/5/18 4:15 PM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > I don't understand why there are two different versions of asterisk witch is: > - ArchLinux: Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-48-app_rpt-0.327-11/24/2018 > - Debian: Asterisk GIT Version 004b9dd Yes, the hamvoip version is a version made by a criminal software pirate known as John David McGough. John David and his company have taken the open source Allstar and Linux code, closed sourced it, and distribute it in violation of the copyright. I would encourage all users to use the open source version of Allstar Asterisk as there's no telling what nefarious things may be hidden in the infringing software put out by those who would claim others work as their own and steal from the community. The real version of Allstar can be found here for both the x86 and ARM architectures can be downloaded here: https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Main_Page#Downloads The source can be found on github and you can compile it yourself if you choose. https://github.com/AllStarLink/ 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From marco.brunozzi at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 21:33:30 2018 From: marco.brunozzi at gmail.com (Marco Brunozzi) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 22:33:30 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] asterisk version In-Reply-To: <14ad4b8e-02b6-f5bf-9053-e80cf8547092@bryanfields.net> References: <14ad4b8e-02b6-f5bf-9053-e80cf8547092@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: Hi Bryan, thanks for the answer, I'll try it. 73 Marco IW0RED On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:28 PM Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 12/5/18 4:15 PM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > > I don't understand why there are two different versions of asterisk witch is: > > - ArchLinux: Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-48-app_rpt-0.327-11/24/2018 > > - Debian: Asterisk GIT Version 004b9dd > > Yes, the hamvoip version is a version made by a criminal software pirate known > as John David McGough. John David and his company have taken the open source > Allstar and Linux code, closed sourced it, and distribute it in violation of > the copyright. > > I would encourage all users to use the open source version of Allstar Asterisk > as there's no telling what nefarious things may be hidden in the infringing > software put out by those who would claim others work as their own and steal > from the community. > > The real version of Allstar can be found here for both the x86 and ARM > architectures can be downloaded here: > > https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Main_Page#Downloads > > The source can be found on github and you can compile it yourself if you choose. > > https://github.com/AllStarLink/ > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From qrz at tg9aor.net Thu Dec 6 12:32:45 2018 From: qrz at tg9aor.net (qrz at tg9aor.net) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 06:32:45 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT Microphone level goes to 0 upon program start Message-ID: <002001d48d5f$cb059fe0$6110dfa0$@tg9aor.net> Good day to all. Is this a known issue? System is Windows 10. 73 de TG9AOR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Thu Dec 6 13:03:36 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 08:03:36 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT Microphone level goes to 0 upon program start In-Reply-To: <002001d48d5f$cb059fe0$6110dfa0$@tg9aor.net> References: <002001d48d5f$cb059fe0$6110dfa0$@tg9aor.net> Message-ID: <0b3a3d48-77c1-dca3-e518-d16d6a614f43@midnighteng.com> Not that I know of. You might look to see if the utility driver for your sound in the system is not over-riding changes. It sounds system specific ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/6/2018 7:32 AM, qrz at tg9aor.net wrote: > > Good day to all. Is this a known issue? System is Windows 10. > > 73 de TG9AOR > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwbesemer at cox.net Thu Dec 6 13:14:10 2018 From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer - WM4B) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:14:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT Microphone level goes to 0 upon program start Message-ID: <1390725.11552.16783a77ab9.Webtop.0@cox.net> I"ve seen this a lot with Windows 10 machines. Not necessarily with IAXRPT, but with various digital programs (e.g. FLDigi, etc.) that use the soundcard. Sometimes Windows 10 has a mind of it's own. There used to be a utilty that would reset your souncard based on the program you wanted to run, but it's long deprecated and will not function on Windows 10. Mike WM4B On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:03 AM, Mike wrote: > Not that I know of. > > You might look to see if the utility driver for your sound in the > system is not over-riding changes. > > It sounds system specific > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/6/2018 7:32 AM, qrz at tg9aor.net wrote: >> >> Good day to all. Is this a known issue? System is Windows 10. >> >> 73 de TG9AOR >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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From mm at midnighteng.com Thu Dec 6 14:24:54 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 09:24:54 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT Microphone level goes to 0 upon program start In-Reply-To: <1390725.11552.16783a77ab9.Webtop.0@cox.net> References: <1390725.11552.16783a77ab9.Webtop.0@cox.net> Message-ID: <0c88b241-27d2-a71a-1d7f-2c30c826dad7@midnighteng.com> I think what you will find is more of a conflict between the vendor provided sound driver interface utility and windows interface handlers fighting for control of the device. Best to just do away with/uninstall/disable the vendor provided interface/control utility. Have one way to set it. Can't say it is his problem but 99% in my experience from vista - 10.? Same with network and other devices. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/6/2018 8:14 AM, Mike Besemer - WM4B wrote: > I"ve seen this a lot with Windows 10 machines.? Not necessarily with > IAXRPT, but with various digital programs (e.g. FLDigi, etc.) that use > the soundcard.? Sometimes Windows 10 has a mind of it's own.? There > used to be a utilty that would reset your souncard based on the > program you wanted to run, but it's long deprecated and will not > function on Windows 10. > > Mike > WM4B > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:03 AM, Mike wrote: > >> Not that I know of. >> >> You might look to see if the utility driver for your sound in the >> system is not over-riding changes. >> >> It sounds system specific >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 12/6/2018 7:32 AM, qrz at tg9aor.net wrote: >>> >>> Good day to all. Is this a known issue? System is Windows 10. >>> >>> 73 de TG9AOR >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. 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From tom at k5tra.net Fri Dec 7 00:52:31 2018 From: tom at k5tra.net (Tom) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:52:31 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701d48dc7$244be930$6ce3bb90$@k5tra.net> If the claim that the hamvoip version offers so much is true, then why not share the code improvements with the community as open source, in keeping with Jim Dixon's vision?? 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Re: asterisk version (Marco Brunozzi) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 22:15:12 +0100 From: Marco Brunozzi To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] asterisk version Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi everyone, I installed the allstar pi and i386 version. The first one is archlinux (4.14.31-1-ARCH #1 SMP Sat Mar 31 02:36:09 UTC 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux), the other is Debian (4.9.0-8-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.130-2 (2018-10-27) i686 GNU/Linux). I don't understand why there are two different versions of asterisk witch is: - ArchLinux: Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-48-app_rpt-0.327-11/24/2018 - Debian: Asterisk GIT Version 004b9dd Can you give me some points? Thanks in advans. 73 Marco IW0RED. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:28:01 -0500 From: Bryan Fields To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] asterisk version Message-ID: <14ad4b8e-02b6-f5bf-9053-e80cf8547092 at bryanfields.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 12/5/18 4:15 PM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > I don't understand why there are two different versions of asterisk witch is: > - ArchLinux: Asterisk > 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-48-app_rpt-0.327-11/24/2018 > - Debian: Asterisk GIT Version 004b9dd Yes, the hamvoip version is a version made by a criminal software pirate known as John David McGough. John David and his company have taken the open source Allstar and Linux code, closed sourced it, and distribute it in violation of the copyright. I would encourage all users to use the open source version of Allstar Asterisk as there's no telling what nefarious things may be hidden in the infringing software put out by those who would claim others work as their own and steal from the community. The real version of Allstar can be found here for both the x86 and ARM architectures can be downloaded here: https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Main_Page#Downloads The source can be found on github and you can compile it yourself if you choose. https://github.com/AllStarLink/ 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 22:33:30 +0100 From: Marco Brunozzi To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] asterisk version Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Bryan, thanks for the answer, I'll try it. 73 Marco IW0RED On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:28 PM Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 12/5/18 4:15 PM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > > I don't understand why there are two different versions of asterisk witch is: > > - ArchLinux: Asterisk > > 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-48-app_rpt-0.327-11/24/2018 > > - Debian: Asterisk GIT Version 004b9dd > > Yes, the hamvoip version is a version made by a criminal software > pirate known as John David McGough. John David and his company have > taken the open source Allstar and Linux code, closed sourced it, and > distribute it in violation of the copyright. > > I would encourage all users to use the open source version of Allstar > Asterisk as there's no telling what nefarious things may be hidden in > the infringing software put out by those who would claim others work > as their own and steal from the community. > > The real version of Allstar can be found here for both the x86 and ARM > architectures can be downloaded here: > > https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Main_Page#Downloads > > The source can be found on github and you can compile it yourself if you choose. > > https://github.com/AllStarLink/ > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users ------------------------------ End of App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 6 ********************************************* From tisawyer at gmail.com Fri Dec 7 23:35:40 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 15:35:40 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website Message-ID: The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it out. The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.boroff at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 02:20:25 2018 From: martin.boroff at gmail.com (Martin Boroff) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 21:20:25 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> Tim Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop down with choices like 25/page?. Otherwise, the site looks good. 73, Marty WD9GYM > On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. > > If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it out. > > The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org . > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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Marshall - ke6pcv From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boroff Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website Tim Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop down with choices like 25/page?. Otherwise, the site looks good. 73, Marty WD9GYM On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it out. The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org . -- Tim WD6AWP _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidlardizabal at yahoo.com Sat Dec 8 10:50:01 2018 From: davidlardizabal at yahoo.com (Lardizabal David D.) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 04:50:01 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Icom FR 5000 repeater - URI - Alllstarlink node Message-ID: Hi My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done this setup would appreciate the help. I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not been able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.) My current pin out is like this: FR 5000 Repeater DML URI 7 GND =================> 20 GND 8 MOD IN =================> 22 TX AUDIO 9 DISC OUT ================> 21 RX AUDIO 14 GND =================> 19 GND 19 PTT =================> 1 PTT 22 AF OUT =================> 8 COR DET (?) *** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 repeater; I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else. FR6000 RTCM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell Programming FR6000. Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT 73 David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sat Dec 8 14:16:50 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 09:16:50 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Icom FR 5000 repeater - URI - Alllstarlink node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <860d695e-e82e-db36-4f98-75d998bc45e9@midnighteng.com> David, First I will say I am not familiar with either device you are using, So take all of this with a grain of salt. I doubt you can take AF OUT and make a COR detect from it without extra hardware as a VOX circuit etc. To me, from your connection diagram, It looks like you need to do one of a few things. If you can get a valid PL from the radio and use that for your COR line. (use hard PL for COR) OR Use PL (as detected in apt_rpt) for COR - 'carrierfrom=dsp' Someone is likely to have a better answer but those are my thoughts. Perhaps share a link to the uri makers site for your device for details on that I could take a better look. ...mike,kb8jnm On 12/8/2018 5:50 AM, Lardizabal David D. wrote: > Hi > > My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. ?I am trying to install and > AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to > figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. ?If anyone has done this > setup would appreciate the help. > > I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of > noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( > I am able to connect to other nodes via line command,?I have not been > able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.) > > My current pin out is like this: > > > FR 5000 RepeaterDML URI > > 7GND =================> 20GND > 8MOD IN ? =================> 22TX AUDIO > 9DISC OUT ================> 21RX AUDIO > 14GND?=================> 19GND > 19PTT=================> ?1PTT > 22AF OUT ?=================> ?8COR DET ? (?) > > *** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 > repeater; > > I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. > The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. > Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else. > > FR6000 RTCM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In > Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio > Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio > Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In > Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND > Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT > DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell > > Programming FR6000. > Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. > Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the > receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. > Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT > > 73 > > David > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.boroff at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 15:19:37 2018 From: martin.boroff at gmail.com (Martin Boroff) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 10:19:37 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> Message-ID: <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Marshall Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from there I used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the filter which took me direct to my node. Very nice. 73, Marty > On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: > > Marty, > > That option is already there. > > Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" > > You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. > > Marshall - ke6pcv > > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boroff > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website > > Tim > > Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop down with choices like 25/page?. > > Otherwise, the site looks good. > > 73, Marty WD9GYM > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: > > The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. > > If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it out. > > The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org . > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 16:02:08 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 08:02:08 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: It would be nice if the IDs were not case sensitive. Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 > On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Martin Boroff wrote: > > Marshall > > Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from there I used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the filter which took me direct to my node. Very nice. > > 73, Marty > >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: >> >> Marty, >> >> That option is already there. >> >> Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" >> >> You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. >> >> Marshall - ke6pcv >> >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boroff >> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website >> >> Tim >> >> Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop down with choices like 25/page?. >> >> Otherwise, the site looks good. >> >> 73, Marty WD9GYM >> >> >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. >> >> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it out. >> >> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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In you uri set up set the following: [usb1999] hdwtype=0 rxboost=1 txboost=1 rxctcssrelax=1 txctcssdefault=103.5 rxctcssfreqs=103.5 txctcssfreqs=103.5 ;rxctcssoverride=0 carrierfrom=dsp ctcssfrom=dsp rxdemod=flat txprelim=no txlimonly=yes txtoctype=phase txmixa=voice txmixb=no invertptt=0 duplex=1 rxondelay=0 rxnoisefiltype=0 eeprom=0 plfilter=yes This will set you up using dsp for squelch detection and dsp for rx tone detection. This setup requires the Icom to be programmed to transmit the ctcss tone (if desired). the URI will only send Voice to the Icom. Calibrate your RXnoise, RXvoice and RXtone. Then set TX Voice. Save your settings. If your squelch is open type this at the prompt: repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch Current Signal Strength is 681 Current Squelch setting is 500 if your squelch setting is below your signal strength, set the squelch to something about 25 points above the current signal strength. repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch 700 press enter. Save settings. This set up will require a ctcss tone of 103.5 Hz to access the receive. Also, if you intend to use the allstar node to repeat then set the channel in the repeater to "duplex" . This is to ensure the allstar node is repeating and not the Icom. Hope this helps. Cheers! Jon VA3RQ On 12/8/2018 5:50 AM, Lardizabal David D. wrote: > Hi > > My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and > AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to > figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done this > setup would appreciate the help. > > I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of > noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( > I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not been > able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.) > > My current pin out is like this: > > > FR 5000 RepeaterDML URI > > 7GND =================> 20GND > 8MOD IN =================> 22TX AUDIO > 9DISC OUT ================> 21RX AUDIO > 14GND =================> 19GND > 19PTT=================> 1PTT > 22AF OUT =================> 8COR DET (?) > > *** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 > repeater; > > I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. > The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. > Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else. > > FR6000 RTCM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In > Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio > Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio > Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In > Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND > Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT > DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell > > Programming FR6000. > Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. > Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the > receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. > Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT > > 73 > > David > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 23:04:13 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 18:04:13 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I love the new website. There is one thing that is not ok that I found. When registering a new account, if you are not from the USA you choose your country (me Canada) , then in the prov/state/region section you can only choose one of the US state ;-) Not that I hate the states, but it would be nice to choose the right one. Beside that, it is very good and I can only give good words.. Have a great day! VE2PF Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le ven. 7 d?c. 2018 ? 18:36, Tim Sawyer a ?crit : > The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously > since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been > great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. > > If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the > new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it > out. > > The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 23:18:50 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 18:18:50 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: just found out the none / NA :-) sorry! Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le sam. 8 d?c. 2018 ? 18:04, Pierre Martel a ?crit : > I love the new website. > > There is one thing that is not ok that I found. > > When registering a new account, if you are not from the USA you choose > your country (me Canada) , then in the prov/state/region section you can > only choose one of the US state ;-) > > Not that I hate the states, but it would be nice to choose the right one. > > Beside that, it is very good and I can only give good words.. > > Have a great day! > > VE2PF > > > Garanti > sans virus. www.avast.com > > <#m_1083512190998621446_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > Le ven. 7 d?c. 2018 ? 18:36, Tim Sawyer a ?crit : > >> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously >> since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been >> great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. >> >> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the >> new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it >> out. >> >> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidlardizabal at yahoo.com Sun Dec 9 00:02:00 2018 From: davidlardizabal at yahoo.com (Lardizabal David D.) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 18:02:00 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Icom FR 5000 repeater - URI - Alllstarlink node In-Reply-To: <5C0C484D.9030209@cogeco.ca> References: <5C0C484D.9030209@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <4F7CE9F4-57E9-4B4D-9F32-35E1A0DB1914@yahoo.com> Thanks Jon, Will experiment with your instructions, to see how it works. Would there be any difference if I use simple usb rather than radio usb? 73, David HQ2DDL > On Dec 8, 2018, at 16:40, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: > > All connections good except for the red one in question. > > Change 22 to pin 21 on the FR 5000 and program the I/O pin 21 as an output. Then assign function "Analog audible" . > set logic to LOW. > > This will give you an analog COR that is active low when the receiver is active-should you require it. > > Program I/O pin 19 to an input and select "EPTT" as its function and set the logic to LOW. > > This will make this pin an external ptt. > > In you uri set up set the following: > > [usb1999] > > hdwtype=0 > rxboost=1 > txboost=1 > rxctcssrelax=1 > txctcssdefault=103.5 > rxctcssfreqs=103.5 > txctcssfreqs=103.5 > ;rxctcssoverride=0 > carrierfrom=dsp > ctcssfrom=dsp > rxdemod=flat > txprelim=no > txlimonly=yes > txtoctype=phase > txmixa=voice > txmixb=no > invertptt=0 > duplex=1 > rxondelay=0 > rxnoisefiltype=0 > eeprom=0 > plfilter=yes > > This will set you up using dsp for squelch detection and dsp for rx tone detection. > > This setup requires the Icom to be programmed to transmit the ctcss tone (if desired). the URI will only send Voice to the Icom. > > Calibrate your RXnoise, RXvoice and RXtone. Then set TX Voice. > > Save your settings. > > If your squelch is open type this at the prompt: > > repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch > Current Signal Strength is 681 > Current Squelch setting is 500 > > if your squelch setting is below your signal strength, set the squelch to something about 25 points above the current signal strength. > > repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch 700 > press enter. > > Save settings. > > This set up will require a ctcss tone of 103.5 Hz to access the receive. > > Also, if you intend to use the allstar node to repeat then set the channel in the repeater to "duplex" . > This is to ensure the allstar node is repeating and not the Icom. > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers! > > Jon VA3RQ > > > > > > On 12/8/2018 5:50 AM, Lardizabal David D. wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done this setup would appreciate the help. >> >> I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not been able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.) >> >> My current pin out is like this: >> >> >> FR 5000 Repeater DML URI >> >> 7 GND =================> 20 GND >> 8 MOD IN =================> 22 TX AUDIO >> 9 DISC OUT ================> 21 RX AUDIO >> 14 GND =================> 19 GND >> 19 PTT =================> 1 PTT >> 22 AF OUT =================> 8 COR DET (?) >> >> *** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 repeater; >> >> I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. >> The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. >> Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else. >> >> FR6000 RTCM >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In >> Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio >> Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio >> Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In >> Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND >> Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT >> DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell >> >> Programming FR6000. >> Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. >> Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the >> receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. >> Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT >> >> 73 >> >> David >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From jrorke at cogeco.ca Sun Dec 9 00:24:22 2018 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2018 19:24:22 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Icom FR 5000 repeater - URI - Alllstarlink node In-Reply-To: <4F7CE9F4-57E9-4B4D-9F32-35E1A0DB1914@yahoo.com> References: <5C0C484D.9030209@cogeco.ca> <4F7CE9F4-57E9-4B4D-9F32-35E1A0DB1914@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5C0C60B6.8090209@cogeco.ca> In that case set carrerfrom = usbinvert and CTCSSfrom = no That would use the hard COR from the repeater. My set doesnt use the hardware cor but uses dsp to decode its own squelch from the discriminator. On 12/8/2018 7:02 PM, Lardizabal David D. wrote: > Thanks Jon, > > Will experiment with your instructions, to see how it works. > > Would there be any difference if I use simple usb rather than radio usb? > > 73, > > David > HQ2DDL > > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 16:40, REDBUTTON_CTRL > > wrote: >> >> All connections good except for the red one in question. >> >> Change 22 to pin 21 on the FR 5000 and program the I/O pin 21 as an >> output. Then assign function "Analog audible" . >> set logic to LOW. >> >> This will give you an analog COR that is active low when the receiver >> is active-should you require it. >> >> Program I/O pin 19 to an input and select "EPTT" as its function and >> set the logic to LOW. >> >> This will make this pin an external ptt. >> >> In you uri set up set the following: >> >> [usb1999] >> >> hdwtype=0 >> rxboost=1 >> txboost=1 >> rxctcssrelax=1 >> txctcssdefault=103.5 >> rxctcssfreqs=103.5 >> txctcssfreqs=103.5 >> ;rxctcssoverride=0 >> carrierfrom=dsp >> ctcssfrom=dsp >> rxdemod=flat >> txprelim=no >> txlimonly=yes >> txtoctype=phase >> txmixa=voice >> txmixb=no >> invertptt=0 >> duplex=1 >> rxondelay=0 >> rxnoisefiltype=0 >> eeprom=0 >> plfilter=yes >> >> This will set you up using dsp for squelch detection and dsp for rx >> tone detection. >> >> This setup requires the Icom to be programmed to transmit the ctcss >> tone (if desired). the URI will only send Voice to the Icom. >> >> Calibrate your RXnoise, RXvoice and RXtone. Then set TX Voice. >> >> Save your settings. >> >> If your squelch is open type this at the prompt: >> >> repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch >> Current Signal Strength is 681 >> Current Squelch setting is 500 >> >> if your squelch setting is below your signal strength, set the >> squelch to something about 25 points above the current signal strength. >> >> repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch 700 >> press enter. >> >> Save settings. >> >> This set up will require a ctcss tone of 103.5 Hz to access the receive. >> >> Also, if you intend to use the allstar node to repeat then set the >> channel in the repeater to "duplex" . >> This is to ensure the allstar node is repeating and not the Icom. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Jon VA3RQ >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/8/2018 5:50 AM, Lardizabal David D. wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and >>> AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to >>> figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done >>> this setup would appreciate the help. >>> >>> I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of >>> noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, >>> ( I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not >>> been able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.) >>> >>> My current pin out is like this: >>> >>> >>> FR 5000 RepeaterDML URI >>> >>> 7GND =================> 20GND >>> 8MOD IN =================> 22TX AUDIO >>> 9DISC OUT ================> 21RX AUDIO >>> 14GND =================> 19GND >>> 19PTT=================> 1PTT >>> 22AF OUT =================> 8COR DET (?) >>> >>> *** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 >>> repeater; >>> >>> I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. >>> The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. >>> Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else. >>> >>> FR6000 RTCM >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In >>> Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio >>> Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio >>> Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In >>> Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND >>> Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT >>> DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell >>> >>> Programming FR6000. >>> Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. >>> Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the >>> receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. >>> Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Run the following commands after the first time you boot. apt-get update apt-get upgrade -y reboot Used copy of apt_rpt *.conf files (at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node) If using RPi 3 with wifi, then execute wifi-setup at the command line prompt. _____ From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Gary Bonebrake Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 8:44 AM To: App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Net Install Problem Greetings, After several years of successful Asterisk repeater operation using Centos (node 27610), I have decided to move into the 21st century and update to Debian/Allstar/Asterisk. Sounded like a great project to attack over the holidays. I dug up an identical HP dc5100 PC, same as current repeater controller, for the new system. It has one CDROM drive and many USB ports. The install .ISO file on the AllstarLink website is too big for a CD, so I created a bootable thumbdrive and forced my PC to boot from that. After the install completes and shuts down, I remove the thumbdrive and restart the PC. It comes up with the repeater prompt, but does not continue the installation of Asterisk. There exists no "asterisk.sh". I would appreciate guidance on how to proceed. BTW, the user "repeater" has no privileges and unknown password ("allstarlink" does not work). Thanks Gary W5BI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Dec 9 17:14:40 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 12:14:40 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Net Install Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My first thoughts are to download again and start from scratch. What are you using to image your usb drive ? You seem to have only the OS installed. When it did not fully install, i doubt you will have the user name pass expected since that is most likely preformed? in the asterisk install script? Could be a boot/grub issue? Review/clean your bios settings. I would try it all again and see if you get the same result as a minimum. I have never installed from usb but a dvd. So just my thoughts. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/9/2018 11:43 AM, Gary Bonebrake wrote: > > Greetings, > > After several years of successful Asterisk repeater operation using > Centos (node 27610), I have decided to move into the 21st century and > update to Debian/Allstar/Asterisk. Sounded like a great project to > attack over the holidays. I dug up an identical HP dc5100 PC, same as > current repeater controller, for the new system. It has one CDROM > drive and many USB ports. > > The install .ISO file on the AllstarLink website is too big for a CD, > so I created a bootable thumbdrive and forced my PC to boot from that. > After the install completes and shuts down, I remove the thumbdrive > and restart the PC. It comes up with the repeater prompt, but does not > continue the installation of Asterisk. There exists no "asterisk.sh". > > I would appreciate guidance on how to proceed. > > BTW, the user "repeater" has no privileges and unknown password > ("allstarlink" does not work). > > Thanks > > Gary W5BI > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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N5ZUA On 12/9/2018 12:34 PM, Jerry Swords wrote: > I am trying to setup my first allstar node, when looking at the CLI > client I get node 49390 rejected from 44.98.254.145 what have I done > wrong? > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Sun Dec 9 18:39:27 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:39:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New to allstar link In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12/9/18 1:34 PM, Jerry Swords wrote: > I am trying to setup my first allstar node, when looking at the CLI client > I get node 49390 rejected from 44.98.254.145 what have I done wrong? Fist, thanks for the post with real info in it. Seeing the error, node number and your IP makes this really easy to figure out. Based on this, and the error in the registration server: > [Dec 9 18:34:58] NOTICE[23435] chan_iax2.c: Host 75.187.35.193 failed MD5 authentication for '49390' (7a582c09621ef85063759e21eed5af56 != 02c2577686680e6262912a86edaf2571) >From this, your node password is configured wrong in iax.conf. you should have register=49390:$yourpasswd at register.allstarlink.org where $yourpasswd is the password listed for your node on the portal page. Change that and your should be good to go. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From nhardman1428 at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 19:10:41 2018 From: nhardman1428 at gmail.com (nhardman1428 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 14:10:41 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Net Install Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68C26D85-8BDE-4420-8E73-E766147910F2@gmail.com> The default username is: repeater the password is: allstarlink at the prompt type. sudo asl-menu This will load the menu which will guide you through the setup process of your node. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Mike wrote: > > My first thoughts are to download again and start from scratch. > > What are you using to image your usb drive ? > > You seem to have only the OS installed. > > When it did not fully install, i doubt you will have the user name pass expected since that is most likely preformed in the asterisk install script? > > Could be a boot/grub issue? Review/clean your bios settings. > > I would try it all again and see if you get the same result as a minimum. > > I have never installed from usb but a dvd. So just my thoughts. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > >> On 12/9/2018 11:43 AM, Gary Bonebrake wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> After several years of successful Asterisk repeater operation using Centos (node 27610), I have decided to move into the 21st century and update to Debian/Allstar/Asterisk. Sounded like a great project to attack over the holidays. I dug up an identical HP dc5100 PC, same as current repeater controller, for the new system. It has one CDROM drive and many USB ports. >> >> The install .ISO file on the AllstarLink website is too big for a CD, so I created a bootable thumbdrive and forced my PC to boot from that. After the install completes and shuts down, I remove the thumbdrive and restart the PC. It comes up with the repeater prompt, but does not continue the installation of Asterisk. There exists no "asterisk.sh". >> >> I would appreciate guidance on how to proceed. >> >> BTW, the user "repeater" has no privileges and unknown password ("allstarlink" does not work). >> >> Thanks >> >> Gary W5BI >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From n8wbv at outlook.com Sun Dec 9 19:36:34 2018 From: n8wbv at outlook.com (Jerry Swords) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 19:36:34 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New to allstar link In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK and thanks, you was right I had put the node password in wrong, it seams to be connecting now. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bryan Fields" To: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" Sent: 12/9/2018 1:39:27 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New to allstar link >On 12/9/18 1:34 PM, Jerry Swords wrote: >> I am trying to setup my first allstar node, when looking at the CLI client >> I get node 49390 rejected from 44.98.254.145 what have I done wrong? > >Fist, thanks for the post with real info in it. Seeing the error, node number >and your IP makes this really easy to figure out. > >Based on this, and the error in the registration server: >> [Dec 9 18:34:58] NOTICE[23435] chan_iax2.c: Host 75.187.35.193 failed MD5 authentication for '49390' (7a582c09621ef85063759e21eed5af56 != 02c2577686680e6262912a86edaf2571) > >From this, your node password is configured wrong in iax.conf. > >you should have register=49390:$yourpasswd at register.allstarlink.org where >$yourpasswd is the password listed for your node on the portal page. > >Change that and your should be good to go. > >73's >-- >Bryan Fields > >727-409-1194 - Voice >http://bryanfields.net >_______________________________________________ >App_rpt-users mailing list >App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Mon Dec 10 08:36:09 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 03:36:09 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New to allstar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12/10/18 12:17 AM, Jerry Swords wrote: > Hello I did get the node up and running but when someone connects to me > 49390 it disconnects them after about 40 seconds what do I need to look > at? I just connected to you and stayed connected for at least a few minutes. > StPeteRpt*CLI> rpt lstats 50000 > NODE PEER RECONNECTS DIRECTION CONNECT TIME CONNECT STATE > ---- ---- ---------- --------- ------------ ------------- > 40821 44.98.249.6 0 OUT 00:41:19:33 ESTABLISHED > 2000 67.215.233.178 0 OUT 00:39:13:768 ESTABLISHED > 2020 73.11.141.48 0 IN 00:33:20:666 ESTABLISHED > 46655 44.48.48.209 0 OUT 00:11:01:209 ESTABLISHED > 49390 75.187.35.193 0 OUT 00:03:00:704 ESTABLISHED In many cases this can be a network of firewall timeout issue if a connection fails. You can also use the permanent connection feature that will reconnect if the connection fails. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From n8wbv at outlook.com Tue Dec 11 01:51:23 2018 From: n8wbv at outlook.com (Jerry Swords) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 01:51:23 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New to Allstar Message-ID: Seams like I am still having problem with my node 49390 wanting to disconnect from another node, I am running a Arris TG1672 router I think I have the ports configered right but not sure? [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave Bury kc4jir On Mon, 10 Dec 2018, 21:10 Jerry Swords If there is anyone willing to connect to my node and see if it is still > disconecting would be grateful node 49390 > > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > <#m_-1978752222981860870_m_7955061532743021393_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bryan at k6cbr.us Tue Dec 11 02:47:16 2018 From: bryan at k6cbr.us (Bryan St Clair) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:47:16 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New to Allstar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I connected for 10 mins. No problem. On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 18:10 Jerry Swords If there is anyone willing to connect to my node and see if it is still > disconecting would be grateful node 49390 > > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > <#m_2143819148484815639_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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No problem. > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 18:10 Jerry Swords wrote: > > If there is anyone willing to connect to my node and see if it is > still disconecting would be grateful node 49390 > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email > address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Wed Dec 12 16:49:50 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:49:50 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: The login ID is not case sensitive. Is that the ID you meant? On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM Bob Pyke wrote: > It would be nice if the IDs were not case sensitive. > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > 73 > > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Martin Boroff wrote: > > Marshall > > Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from there I > used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the filter > which took me direct to my node. Very nice. > > 73, Marty > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: > > Marty, > > That option is already there. > > Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" > > You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. > > Marshall - ke6pcv > > *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Martin > Boroff > *Sent:* Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org > Website > > Tim > > Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop > down with choices like 25/page?. > > Otherwise, the site looks good. > > 73, Marty WD9GYM > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously > since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been > great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. > > If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the > new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it > out. > > The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Wed Dec 12 16:52:47 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:52:47 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is an "Other or N/A" selection for the state. Is there a better option for non-US countries? On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:04 PM Pierre Martel wrote: > I love the new website. > > There is one thing that is not ok that I found. > > When registering a new account, if you are not from the USA you choose > your country (me Canada) , then in the prov/state/region section you can > only choose one of the US state ;-) > > Not that I hate the states, but it would be nice to choose the right one. > > Beside that, it is very good and I can only give good words.. > > Have a great day! > > VE2PF > > > Garanti > sans virus. www.avast.com > > <#m_1569687310888060649_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > Le ven. 7 d?c. 2018 ? 18:36, Tim Sawyer a ?crit : > >> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously >> since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been >> great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. >> >> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the >> new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it >> out. >> >> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Wed Dec 12 16:53:46 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:53:46 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just found your find. :-) On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:19 PM Pierre Martel wrote: > just found out the none / NA > > :-) sorry! > > > Garanti > sans virus. www.avast.com > > <#m_-6832664434043517069_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > Le sam. 8 d?c. 2018 ? 18:04, Pierre Martel a ?crit : > >> I love the new website. >> >> There is one thing that is not ok that I found. >> >> When registering a new account, if you are not from the USA you choose >> your country (me Canada) , then in the prov/state/region section you can >> only choose one of the US state ;-) >> >> Not that I hate the states, but it would be nice to choose the right one. >> >> Beside that, it is very good and I can only give good words.. >> >> Have a great day! >> >> VE2PF >> >> >> Garanti >> sans virus. www.avast.com >> >> <#m_-6832664434043517069_m_1083512190998621446_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> Le ven. 7 d?c. 2018 ? 18:36, Tim Sawyer a ?crit : >> >>> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously >>> since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been >>> great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. >>> >>> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the >>> new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it >>> out. >>> >>> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. 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URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Wed Dec 12 18:03:11 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 13:03:11 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you think it would be possible to have the none n/a as the first choice? I usely am not that hard to understand. But as it was mixed with all the state names it was harder to spot ;-) Le mer. 12 d?c. 2018 11:54 a.m., Tim Sawyer a ?crit : > I just found your find. :-) > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:19 PM Pierre Martel wrote: > >> just found out the none / NA >> >> :-) sorry! >> >> >> Garanti >> sans virus. www.avast.com >> >> <#m_-4362504845874679802_m_-6832664434043517069_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> Le sam. 8 d?c. 2018 ? 18:04, Pierre Martel a ?crit : >> >>> I love the new website. >>> >>> There is one thing that is not ok that I found. >>> >>> When registering a new account, if you are not from the USA you choose >>> your country (me Canada) , then in the prov/state/region section you can >>> only choose one of the US state ;-) >>> >>> Not that I hate the states, but it would be nice to choose the right >>> one. >>> >>> Beside that, it is very good and I can only give good words.. >>> >>> Have a great day! >>> >>> VE2PF >>> >>> >>> Garanti >>> sans virus. www.avast.com >>> >>> <#m_-4362504845874679802_m_-6832664434043517069_m_1083512190998621446_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>> Le ven. 7 d?c. 2018 ? 18:36, Tim Sawyer a ?crit : >>> >>>> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running >>>> continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback >>>> has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that >>>> feedback. >>>> >>>> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit >>>> the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it >>>> out. >>>> >>>> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >>>> -- >>>> Tim WD6AWP >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and >>>> press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. 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URL: From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Wed Dec 12 22:29:29 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 14:29:29 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: No. The ID (our callsign) when filtering the node list Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 > On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:49 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > The login ID is not case sensitive. Is that the ID you meant? > >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM Bob Pyke wrote: >> It would be nice if the IDs were not case sensitive. >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> K6ECM >> 73 >> >> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Martin Boroff wrote: >>> >>> Marshall >>> >>> Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from there I used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the filter which took me direct to my node. Very nice. >>> >>> 73, Marty >>> >>>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: >>>> >>>> Marty, >>>> >>>> That option is already there. >>>> >>>> Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" >>>> >>>> You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. >>>> >>>> Marshall - ke6pcv >>>> >>>> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boroff >>>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM >>>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop down with choices like 25/page?. >>>> >>>> Otherwise, the site looks good. >>>> >>>> 73, Marty WD9GYM >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >>>> >>>> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. >>>> >>>> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it out. >>>> >>>> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >>>> -- >>>> Tim WD6AWP >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From tom at tomh.us Thu Dec 13 19:52:18 2018 From: tom at tomh.us (Tom Hayward) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 11:52:18 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Personnel Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 10:22 AM Kevin Custer wrote: > On 10/27/2018 12:42 PM, Tom Hayward wrote: > > What's the status of the AllStarLink Inc 501(c)(3) application? This > > is the board action I'm most interested in, because I have employer > > matching that will expire Dec 31st. > > This is an action item that was high in priority with the past board. > Since the current board has changed, and first meeting won't be until > tomorrow, I cannot answer you immediately. > > This is something we'll discuss and I'll report back after I have an > idea of what the current boards position is, and a proposed time line. > > For AllStarLink, Inc., > Kevin W3KKC > This money is about to expire. Has the board followed through with a 1023-EZ application yet? Tom KD7LXL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Fri Dec 14 15:59:35 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 07:59:35 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: That's not case sensitive for me. See attached screen grab. On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:29 PM Bob Pyke wrote: > No. The ID (our callsign) when filtering the node list > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > 73 > > > On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:49 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > The login ID is not case sensitive. Is that the ID you meant? > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM Bob Pyke wrote: > >> It would be nice if the IDs were not case sensitive. >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> K6ECM >> 73 >> >> >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Martin Boroff >> wrote: >> >> Marshall >> >> Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from there >> I used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the filter >> which took me direct to my node. Very nice. >> >> 73, Marty >> >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: >> >> Marty, >> >> That option is already there. >> >> Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" >> >> You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. >> >> Marshall - ke6pcv >> >> *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org >> ] *On Behalf Of *Martin >> Boroff >> *Sent:* Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM >> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org >> Website >> >> Tim >> >> Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop >> down with choices like 25/page?. >> >> Otherwise, the site looks good. >> >> 73, Marty WD9GYM >> >> >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously >> since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been >> great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. >> >> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the >> new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it >> out. >> >> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> > > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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This >> > is the board action I'm most interested in, because I have employer >> > matching that will expire Dec 31st. >> >> This is an action item that was high in priority with the past board. >> Since the current board has changed, and first meeting won't be until >> tomorrow, I cannot answer you immediately. >> >> This is something we'll discuss and I'll report back after I have an >> idea of what the current boards position is, and a proposed time line. >> >> For AllStarLink, Inc., >> Kevin W3KKC >> > > This money is about to expire. Has the board followed through with a > 1023-EZ application yet? > > Tom KD7LXL > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Fri Dec 14 16:30:29 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 08:30:29 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yup, it is working. Didn?t before for me. Go figure. Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73 Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > That's not case sensitive for me. See attached screen grab. > >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:29 PM Bob Pyke wrote: >> No. The ID (our callsign) when filtering the node list >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> K6ECM >> 73 >> >> >>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:49 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >>> >>> The login ID is not case sensitive. Is that the ID you meant? >>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM Bob Pyke wrote: >>>> It would be nice if the IDs were not case sensitive. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bob >>>> K6ECM >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Martin Boroff wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Marshall >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from there I used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the filter which took me direct to my node. Very nice. >>>>> >>>>> 73, Marty >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Marty, >>>>>> >>>>>> That option is already there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" >>>>>> >>>>>> You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marshall - ke6pcv >>>>>> >>>>>> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boroff >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM >>>>>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop down with choices like 25/page?. >>>>>> >>>>>> Otherwise, the site looks good. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, Marty WD9GYM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it out. >>>>>> >>>>>> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tim WD6AWP >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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Although the focus is 220 machines, we know that repeaters on other bands often come along for the ride, and that's fine. Please feel free to join us each Friday night, at 7:00 pm EST, by connecting to 28405, or 47463.? We're usually done within the hour. 73 - Kevin KD2SL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Has the board followed through with a > 1023-EZ application yet? > > Tom KD7LXL Tom, Yes - the application was filed on November 21st.? We're waiting approval. For AllStarLink, Inc., Kevin W3KKC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnovey at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 00:24:20 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 16:24:20 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed Message-ID: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> Hi- Moved to another QTH- hooked up my Pi and set ports to forward as I had previously. I can connect- see Allmon, etc- but connections always fail- whether from Zoiper or from iaxRpt on the PC. Here is an excerpt of status while I tried to connect to a node: -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack == Spawn extension (zoiper, 48654, 9) exited KEEPALIVE on 'IAX2/kk6qms-8612' -- Call accepted by 173.82.59.253 (format ulaw) -- Format for call is ulaw -- Hungup 'IAX2/173.82.59.253:4569-4483' -- Hungup 'DAHDI/pseudo-1029768121' -- Hungup 'DAHDI/pseudo-1580665299' Any help appreciated- Clifford - KK6QMS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sat Dec 15 01:43:10 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 20:43:10 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c804237-b1ed-2590-538a-afc47b11a504@midnighteng.com> If everything thing else is the same, as in you have made no changes in IP, port etc... 1- check your firewall for your current port through of 2369 2- Make sure your /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes is up to date and check permissions/ownership on the file. or... it is probable your port is blocked by your new ISP. Try setting your iax port to2370 or 4570. Don't forget to match that port at the allstarlink portal as well in iax.conf/rpt.conf. Just my thoughts. But you did not mention connect to what... outbound connections is what I assumed. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/14/2018 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: > > Hi- > > Moved to another QTH- hooked up my Pi and set ports to forward as I > had previously. I can connect- see Allmon, etc- but connections always > fail- whether from Zoiper or from iaxRpt on the PC. > > Here is an excerpt of status while I tried to connect to a node: > > ??? -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", > "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack > > ? == Spawn extension (zoiper, 48654, 9) exited KEEPALIVE on > 'IAX2/kk6qms-8612' > > ??? -- Call accepted by 173.82.59.253 (format ulaw) > > ??? -- Format for call is ulaw > > ??? -- Hungup 'IAX2/173.82.59.253:4569-4483' > > ??? -- Hungup 'DAHDI/pseudo-1029768121' > > ??? -- Hungup 'DAHDI/pseudo-1580665299' > > Any help appreciated- > > Clifford ? KK6QMS > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnovey at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 02:03:40 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 18:03:40 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <7c804237-b1ed-2590-538a-afc47b11a504@midnighteng.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <7c804237-b1ed-2590-538a-afc47b11a504@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <009101d4941a$673034a0$35909de0$@gmail.com> Never used 2369 before- but I added it both TCP and UDP- nada Match port in web portal? Dug around in there- didn't see anything I did notice this: "Node 48654 Main Stats Page Node 48654 is no longer in the database " From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 5:43 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed If everything thing else is the same, as in you have made no changes in IP, port etc... 1- check your firewall for your current port through of 2369 2- Make sure your /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes is up to date and check permissions/ownership on the file. or... it is probable your port is blocked by your new ISP. Try setting your iax port to2370 or 4570. Don't forget to match that port at the allstarlink portal as well in iax.conf/rpt.conf. Just my thoughts. But you did not mention connect to what... outbound connections is what I assumed. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/14/2018 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: Hi- Moved to another QTH- hooked up my Pi and set ports to forward as I had previously. I can connect- see Allmon, etc- but connections always fail- whether from Zoiper or from iaxRpt on the PC. Here is an excerpt of status while I tried to connect to a node: -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack == Spawn extension (zoiper, 48654, 9) exited KEEPALIVE on 'IAX2/kk6qms-8612' -- Call accepted by 173.82.59.253 (format ulaw) -- Format for call is ulaw -- Hungup 'IAX2/173.82.59.253:4569-4483' -- Hungup 'DAHDI/pseudo-1029768121' -- Hungup 'DAHDI/pseudo-1580665299' Any help appreciated- Clifford - KK6QMS _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sat Dec 15 02:23:44 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:23:44 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <009101d4941a$673034a0$35909de0$@gmail.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <7c804237-b1ed-2590-538a-afc47b11a504@midnighteng.com> <009101d4941a$673034a0$35909de0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b00e090-bb59-2cef-57b1-002cb65a8212@midnighteng.com> I miss typed that port but I figured you know what I meant. Check your firewall to allow your 4569 port through it, not 2369. No, you are not registered. Check your iax.conf for error type error bad password etc register=48654:pass#@register.allstarlink.org You will not be able to connect inbound or outbound until the node is registered. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/14/2018 9:03 PM, cnovey wrote: > > Never used 2369 before- but I added it both TCP and UDP- nada > > Match port in web portal? Dug around in there- didn?t see anything > > I did notice this: > > > ?Node 48654 > > Main Stats Page > > Node 48654 is no longer in the database > > ? > > *From:* App_rpt-users > *On Behalf Of *Mike > *Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2018 5:43 PM > *To:* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed > > If everything thing else is the same, as in you have made no changes > in IP, port etc... > > 1- check your firewall for your current port through of 2369 > > 2- Make sure your /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes is up to date and > check permissions/ownership on the file. > > or... > > it is probable your port is blocked by your new ISP. > > Try setting your iax port to2370 or 4570. > > Don't forget to match that port at the allstarlink portal as well in > iax.conf/rpt.conf. > > Just my thoughts. But you did not mention connect to what... outbound > connections is what I assumed. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/14/2018 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: > > Hi- > > Moved to another QTH- hooked up my Pi and set ports to forward as > I had previously. I can connect- see Allmon, etc- but connections > always fail- whether from Zoiper or from iaxRpt on the PC. > > Here is an excerpt of status while I tried to connect to a node: > > ??? -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", > "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack > > ? == Spawn extension (zoiper, 48654, 9) exited KEEPALIVE on > 'IAX2/kk6qms-8612' > > ??? -- Call accepted by 173.82.59.253 (format ulaw) > > ??? -- Format for call is ulaw > > ??? -- Hungup 'IAX2/173.82.59.253:4569-4483' > > ??? -- Hungup 'DAHDI/pseudo-1029768121' > > ??? -- Hungup 'DAHDI/pseudo-1580665299' > > Any help appreciated- > > Clifford ? KK6QMS > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Sat Dec 15 02:42:36 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 21:42:36 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> On 12/14/18 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: > Hi- > -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", > "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack You have the node password incorrect. [Dec 15 02:25:45] NOTICE[29658] chan_iax2.c: Host 23.241.113.252 failed MD5 authentication for '48654' (ff2759ceba964257d97305012973b84c != 1492cb51d65cc8e03b63ba866555b6ff) Get the password from the portal and make sure it's set in iax.conf with your register statement. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From cnovey at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 03:15:40 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:15:40 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: <00a501d49424$75f6f780$61e4e680$@gmail.com> So strange- ya I figured that out- just not sure how it got changed. Thanks for the fast help folks!! Clifford -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 6:43 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed On 12/14/18 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: > Hi- > -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", > "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack You have the node password incorrect. [Dec 15 02:25:45] NOTICE[29658] chan_iax2.c: Host 23.241.113.252 failed MD5 authentication for '48654' (ff2759ceba964257d97305012973b84c != 1492cb51d65cc8e03b63ba866555b6ff) Get the password from the portal and make sure it's set in iax.conf with your register statement. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From mm at midnighteng.com Sat Dec 15 03:20:09 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:20:09 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <00a501d49424$75f6f780$61e4e680$@gmail.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> <00a501d49424$75f6f780$61e4e680$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Every app_rpt install comes with a free gremlin ! Thought you knew that ! However, once you have it working correct, why not image your SD card and save it in the case it is going bad. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/14/2018 10:15 PM, cnovey wrote: > So strange- ya I figured that out- just not sure how it got changed. > Thanks for the fast help folks!! > Clifford > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On Behalf > Of Bryan Fields > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 6:43 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed > > On 12/14/18 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: >> Hi- >> -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", >> "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack > You have the node password incorrect. > > [Dec 15 02:25:45] NOTICE[29658] chan_iax2.c: Host 23.241.113.252 failed MD5 > authentication for '48654' (ff2759ceba964257d97305012973b84c != > 1492cb51d65cc8e03b63ba866555b6ff) > > Get the password from the portal and make sure it's set in iax.conf with > your register statement. > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From cnovey at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 03:50:02 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:50:02 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> <00a501d49424$75f6f780$61e4e680$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ab01d49429$4351c7b0$c9f55710$@gmail.com> Haha! Ya man. I do have an image on my PC- I am prepared- but would only resort to using it if really necessary. Learn more solving the issue as long as the card is not corrupted. Issue now is stuttering audio really bad- even the telemetry coming right off the Pi locally over ethernet to iaxRpt on PC is choppy. Pi3 is 1-3% CPU- plenty of RAM free etc. Trying to sort that out now. Thanks! Clifford -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:20 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed Every app_rpt install comes with a free gremlin ! Thought you knew that ! However, once you have it working correct, why not image your SD card and save it in the case it is going bad. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/14/2018 10:15 PM, cnovey wrote: > So strange- ya I figured that out- just not sure how it got changed. > Thanks for the fast help folks!! > Clifford > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On > Behalf Of Bryan Fields > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 6:43 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed > > On 12/14/18 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: >> Hi- >> -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", >> "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack > You have the node password incorrect. > > [Dec 15 02:25:45] NOTICE[29658] chan_iax2.c: Host 23.241.113.252 > failed MD5 authentication for '48654' > (ff2759ceba964257d97305012973b84c != > 1492cb51d65cc8e03b63ba866555b6ff) > > Get the password from the portal and make sure it's set in iax.conf > with your register statement. > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From mm at midnighteng.com Sat Dec 15 03:56:10 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:56:10 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <00ab01d49429$4351c7b0$c9f55710$@gmail.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> <00a501d49424$75f6f780$61e4e680$@gmail.com> <00ab01d49429$4351c7b0$c9f55710$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6a490c56-c005-3f37-afeb-14a219ba8483@midnighteng.com> What are you using for a URI ? How many usb devices ? What are you listening on iaxrpt, radio, other node ? You might also check codec settings for corruption in iax.conf ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/14/2018 10:50 PM, cnovey wrote: > Haha! > Ya man. > I do have an image on my PC- I am prepared- but would only resort to using > it if really necessary. Learn more solving the issue as long as the card is > not corrupted. > > Issue now is stuttering audio really bad- even the telemetry coming right > off the Pi locally over ethernet to iaxRpt on PC is choppy. Pi3 is 1-3% CPU- > plenty of RAM free etc. Trying to sort that out now. > > Thanks! > Clifford > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On Behalf > Of Mike > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:20 PM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed > > Every app_rpt install comes with a free gremlin ! > > Thought you knew that ! > > However, once you have it working correct, why not image your SD card and > save it in the case it is going bad. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/14/2018 10:15 PM, cnovey wrote: >> So strange- ya I figured that out- just not sure how it got changed. >> Thanks for the fast help folks!! >> Clifford >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 6:43 PM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed >> >> On 12/14/18 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: >>> Hi- >>> -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", >>> "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack >> You have the node password incorrect. >> >> [Dec 15 02:25:45] NOTICE[29658] chan_iax2.c: Host 23.241.113.252 >> failed MD5 authentication for '48654' >> (ff2759ceba964257d97305012973b84c != >> 1492cb51d65cc8e03b63ba866555b6ff) >> >> Get the password from the portal and make sure it's set in iax.conf >> with your register statement. >> >> 73's >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From cnovey at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 03:58:10 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:58:10 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <6a490c56-c005-3f37-afeb-14a219ba8483@midnighteng.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> <00a501d49424$75f6f780$61e4e680$@gmail.com> <00ab01d49429$4351c7b0$c9f55710$@gmail.com> <6a490c56-c005-3f37-afeb-14a219ba8483@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <00ac01d4942a$65e523c0$31af6b40$@gmail.com> Nothing- no radio yet- just iax connections using PC soft and headset No USB devices at all iaxRpt software will check iax.conf thanks!! -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:56 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed What are you using for a URI ? How many usb devices ? What are you listening on iaxrpt, radio, other node ? You might also check codec settings for corruption in iax.conf ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/14/2018 10:50 PM, cnovey wrote: > Haha! > Ya man. > I do have an image on my PC- I am prepared- but would only resort to > using it if really necessary. Learn more solving the issue as long as > the card is not corrupted. > > Issue now is stuttering audio really bad- even the telemetry coming > right off the Pi locally over ethernet to iaxRpt on PC is choppy. Pi3 > is 1-3% CPU- plenty of RAM free etc. Trying to sort that out now. > > Thanks! > Clifford > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On > Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:20 PM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed > > Every app_rpt install comes with a free gremlin ! > > Thought you knew that ! > > However, once you have it working correct, why not image your SD card > and save it in the case it is going bad. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/14/2018 10:15 PM, cnovey wrote: >> So strange- ya I figured that out- just not sure how it got changed. >> Thanks for the fast help folks!! >> Clifford >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 6:43 PM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed >> >> On 12/14/18 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: >>> Hi- >>> -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", >>> "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack >> You have the node password incorrect. >> >> [Dec 15 02:25:45] NOTICE[29658] chan_iax2.c: Host 23.241.113.252 >> failed MD5 authentication for '48654' >> (ff2759ceba964257d97305012973b84c != >> 1492cb51d65cc8e03b63ba866555b6ff) >> >> Get the password from the portal and make sure it's set in iax.conf >> with your register statement. >> >> 73's >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From cnovey at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 04:27:03 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 20:27:03 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <6a490c56-c005-3f37-afeb-14a219ba8483@midnighteng.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> <00a501d49424$75f6f780$61e4e680$@gmail.com> <00ab01d49429$4351c7b0$c9f55710$@gmail.com> <6a490c56-c005-3f37-afeb-14a219ba8483@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <00ad01d4942e$6f505890$4df109b0$@gmail.com> Well- using a USB headset helps the issue a lot. I was enjoying a new BT earpiece but wow- suck-ola. I seem to recall some BT tweaks to improve performance but do not recall. Anyway- guess I will stick w wired/USB headset for now. Clifford -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:56 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed What are you using for a URI ? How many usb devices ? What are you listening on iaxrpt, radio, other node ? You might also check codec settings for corruption in iax.conf ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/14/2018 10:50 PM, cnovey wrote: > Haha! > Ya man. > I do have an image on my PC- I am prepared- but would only resort to > using it if really necessary. Learn more solving the issue as long as > the card is not corrupted. > > Issue now is stuttering audio really bad- even the telemetry coming > right off the Pi locally over ethernet to iaxRpt on PC is choppy. Pi3 > is 1-3% CPU- plenty of RAM free etc. Trying to sort that out now. > > Thanks! > Clifford > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On > Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:20 PM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed > > Every app_rpt install comes with a free gremlin ! > > Thought you knew that ! > > However, once you have it working correct, why not image your SD card > and save it in the case it is going bad. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/14/2018 10:15 PM, cnovey wrote: >> So strange- ya I figured that out- just not sure how it got changed. >> Thanks for the fast help folks!! >> Clifford >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 6:43 PM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed >> >> On 12/14/18 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: >>> Hi- >>> -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", >>> "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack >> You have the node password incorrect. >> >> [Dec 15 02:25:45] NOTICE[29658] chan_iax2.c: Host 23.241.113.252 >> failed MD5 authentication for '48654' >> (ff2759ceba964257d97305012973b84c != >> 1492cb51d65cc8e03b63ba866555b6ff) >> >> Get the password from the portal and make sure it's set in iax.conf >> with your register statement. >> >> 73's >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From martin.boroff at gmail.com Sun Dec 16 17:08:18 2018 From: martin.boroff at gmail.com (Martin Boroff) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 11:08:18 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] connection failed In-Reply-To: <00ad01d4942e$6f505890$4df109b0$@gmail.com> References: <007701d4940c$87097790$951c66b0$@gmail.com> <60a5ca1d-a3e1-589d-09c6-c69603ae8650@bryanfields.net> <00a501d49424$75f6f780$61e4e680$@gmail.com> <00ab01d49429$4351c7b0$c9f55710$@gmail.com> <6a490c56-c005-3f37-afeb-14a219ba8483@midnighteng.com> <00ad01d4942e$6f505890$4df109b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B6E42A4-451A-4D50-B6FF-6CA944930DEC@gmail.com> I had one occurrence over the last 4 weeks. Corrected with a reboot. 73, Marty WD9GYM > On Dec 14, 2018, at 10:27 PM, cnovey wrote: > > Well- using a USB headset helps the issue a lot. I was enjoying a new BT > earpiece but wow- suck-ola. > I seem to recall some BT tweaks to improve performance but do not recall. > Anyway- guess I will stick w wired/USB headset for now. > Clifford > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On Behalf > Of Mike > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:56 PM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed > > What are you using for a URI ? > > How many usb devices ? > > What are you listening on iaxrpt, radio, other node ? > > You might also check codec settings for corruption in iax.conf > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/14/2018 10:50 PM, cnovey wrote: >> Haha! >> Ya man. >> I do have an image on my PC- I am prepared- but would only resort to >> using it if really necessary. Learn more solving the issue as long as >> the card is not corrupted.3 >> >> Issue now is stuttering audio really bad- even the telemetry coming >> right off the Pi locally over ethernet to iaxRpt on PC is choppy. Pi3 >> is 1-3% CPU- plenty of RAM free etc. Trying to sort that out now. >> >> Thanks! >> Clifford >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users On >> Behalf Of Mike >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:20 PM >> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed >> >> Every app_rpt install comes with a free gremlin ! >> >> Thought you knew that ! >> >> However, once you have it working correct, why not image your SD card >> and save it in the case it is going bad. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 12/14/2018 10:15 PM, cnovey wrote: >>> So strange- ya I figured that out- just not sure how it got changed. >>> Thanks for the fast help folks!! >>> Clifford >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: App_rpt-users On >>> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 6:43 PM >>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] connection failed >>> >>> On 12/14/18 7:24 PM, cnovey wrote: >>>> Hi- >>>> -- Executing [48654 at zoiper:9] Rpt("IAX2/kk6qms-8612", >>>> "48654|Pv)|KK6QMS") in new stack >>> You have the node password incorrect. >>> >>> [Dec 15 02:25:45] NOTICE[29658] chan_iax2.c: Host 23.241.113.252 >>> failed MD5 authentication for '48654' >>> (ff2759ceba964257d97305012973b84c != >>> 1492cb51d65cc8e03b63ba866555b6ff) >>> >>> Get the password from the portal and make sure it's set in iax.conf >>> with your register statement. >>> >>> 73's >>> -- >>> Bryan Fields >>> >>> 727-409-1194 - Voice >>> http://bryanfields.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Mon Dec 17 02:58:18 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 18:58:18 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 Message-ID: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> Hey gang. Quick question... I'v seen it thrown around in the group here but just wanted to know if this add on is part of the other group that claims to be the developers of Allstarlink. Just asking and hope not to stir up anything. That is not my intention. Thanks Harold K7ILO 27863 From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Dec 17 03:30:55 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 22:30:55 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> Harold, Allmon is authored by Tim Sawyer Independently https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/16/2018 9:58 PM, k7ilo1 at gmail.com wrote: > Hey gang. > > Quick question... > > I'v seen it thrown around in the group here but just wanted to know if this > add on is part of the > other group that claims to be the developers of Allstarlink. > > Just asking and hope not to stir up anything. That is not my intention. > > Thanks > > Harold > K7ILO > 27863 > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Mon Dec 17 03:55:59 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 19:55:59 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <3DBEF671-97AC-4C1E-8C81-86313F07CDA1@gmail.com> Tim is one of the main contributors to AllstarLink. Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 > On Dec 16, 2018, at 7:30 PM, Mike wrote: > > Harold, > > Allmon is authored by Tim Sawyer Independently > > https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 > > ...mike/kb8jnm > >> On 12/16/2018 9:58 PM, k7ilo1 at gmail.com wrote: >> Hey gang. >> >> Quick question... >> >> I'v seen it thrown around in the group here but just wanted to know if this >> add on is part of the >> other group that claims to be the developers of Allstarlink. >> >> Just asking and hope not to stir up anything. That is not my intention. >> >> Thanks >> >> Harold >> K7ILO >> 27863 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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From k6kya at hokeynet.net Mon Dec 17 08:27:34 2018 From: k6kya at hokeynet.net (Steve Passmore) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 00:27:34 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: New site looks good! One thing that would be nice to have is a way to contact a node owner (either an email, or a contact form) On some of the large hubs it's sometimes nice to contact the owner of a node when it is causing problems and there is often no easy way to do so. Thanks Steve On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:30 AM Bob Pyke wrote: > Yup, it is working. Didn?t before for me. Go figure. > > Thanks, > Bob > k6ecm > 73 > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > That's not case sensitive for me. See attached screen grab. > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:29 PM Bob Pyke wrote: > >> No. The ID (our callsign) when filtering the node list >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> K6ECM >> 73 >> >> >> On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:49 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >> The login ID is not case sensitive. Is that the ID you meant? >> >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM Bob Pyke wrote: >> >>> It would be nice if the IDs were not case sensitive. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob >>> K6ECM >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Martin Boroff >>> wrote: >>> >>> Marshall >>> >>> Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from there >>> I used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the filter >>> which took me direct to my node. Very nice. >>> >>> 73, Marty >>> >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: >>> >>> Marty, >>> >>> That option is already there. >>> >>> Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" >>> >>> You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. >>> >>> Marshall - ke6pcv >>> >>> *From:* App_rpt-users [ >>> mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org >>> ] *On Behalf Of *Martin >>> Boroff >>> *Sent:* Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM >>> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org >>> Website >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a >>> drop down with choices like 25/page?. >>> >>> Otherwise, the site looks good. >>> >>> 73, Marty WD9GYM >>> >>> >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >>> >>> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously >>> since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been >>> great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. >>> >>> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the >>> new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it >>> out. >>> >>> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. 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Boyle) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 10:17:24 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <07d6deda-98ba-849e-9d2c-7731cddb1288@bdboyle.com> Only if set up for opt-in. On 12/17/2018 3:27 AM, Steve Passmore wrote: > New site looks good! > > One thing that would be nice to have is a way to contact a node owner > (either an email, or a contact form)? ?On some of the large hubs it's > sometimes nice to contact the owner of a node when it is causing > problems and there is often no easy way to do so. > > Thanks > Steve From tisawyer at gmail.com Mon Dec 17 16:48:16 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 08:48:16 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Allmon was created in the early days of ACID and Limey Linux. It was designed to run separately from AllStar nodes. In fact the first version was so CPU intensive it would kill a node. Allmon2 fixed that and people started putting it on their nodes. Shortly thereafter Allmon2 was distributed with DIAL and later with hamvoip, both with my permission (not that it was required but it was nice of them to ask). Later Supermon came along. It's basically a copy of Allmon2 with shortcuts and external links. It appears the hamvoip folks have now adopted Supermon as the preferred Allmon like tool. Of course I prefer Allmon as it does exactly what I need it to do. I'm currently running a number of Allmon sites the main one being at https://wd6awp.net/allmon/ Allmon is free to download and use from https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 6:58 PM wrote: > Hey gang. > > Quick question... > > I'v seen it thrown around in the group here but just wanted to know if this > add on is part of the > other group that claims to be the developers of Allstarlink. > > Just asking and hope not to stir up anything. That is not my intention. > > Thanks > > Harold > K7ILO > 27863 > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k6kya at hokeynet.net Mon Dec 17 21:12:56 2018 From: k6kya at hokeynet.net (Steve Passmore) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 13:12:56 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: <07d6deda-98ba-849e-9d2c-7731cddb1288@bdboyle.com> References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> <07d6deda-98ba-849e-9d2c-7731cddb1288@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: opt-in would render it useless. I can understand opt-out Steve On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 7:17 AM Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > Only if set up for opt-in. > > On 12/17/2018 3:27 AM, Steve Passmore wrote: > > New site looks good! > > > > One thing that would be nice to have is a way to contact a node owner > > (either an email, or a contact form) On some of the large hubs it's > > sometimes nice to contact the owner of a node when it is causing > > problems and there is often no easy way to do so. > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Mon Dec 17 22:02:04 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:02:04 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> <07d6deda-98ba-849e-9d2c-7731cddb1288@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: <23a96f67-f371-7fb4-e40c-4d31acfefda0@bryanfields.net> On 12/17/18 4:12 PM, Steve Passmore wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 7:17 AM Bryan D. Boyle > wrote: > >> Only if set up for opt-in. > > > opt-in would render it useless. I can understand opt-out I think this is a bit outside the scope of what's needed. You have a callsign, and that can be looked up if you want to get a hold of someone. Some people don't want to receive email, so they don't publish it. If a node is violating the TOS for ASL, (ie linking to non amateurs, etc), then kick off a recording of it to helpdesk at allstarlink.org. Anything else, you can block the node or user. The wiki has a good article on the blacklist process. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From tisawyer at gmail.com Mon Dec 17 22:02:29 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 14:02:29 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: That would be a violation of our privacy policy: https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/about/privacy.php I suggest using QRZ.com to lookup any email the node owner may choose to publish. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:27 AM Steve Passmore wrote: > New site looks good! > > One thing that would be nice to have is a way to contact a node owner > (either an email, or a contact form) On some of the large hubs it's > sometimes nice to contact the owner of a node when it is causing problems > and there is often no easy way to do so. > > Thanks > Steve > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:30 AM Bob Pyke wrote: > >> Yup, it is working. Didn?t before for me. Go figure. >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> k6ecm >> 73 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >> That's not case sensitive for me. See attached screen grab. >> >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:29 PM Bob Pyke wrote: >> >>> No. The ID (our callsign) when filtering the node list >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob >>> K6ECM >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:49 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >>> >>> The login ID is not case sensitive. Is that the ID you meant? >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM Bob Pyke wrote: >>> >>>> It would be nice if the IDs were not case sensitive. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bob >>>> K6ECM >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Martin Boroff >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Marshall >>>> >>>> Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from >>>> there I used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the >>>> filter which took me direct to my node. Very nice. >>>> >>>> 73, Marty >>>> >>>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Marty, >>>> >>>> That option is already there. >>>> >>>> Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" >>>> >>>> You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. >>>> >>>> Marshall - ke6pcv >>>> >>>> *From:* App_rpt-users [ >>>> mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> ] *On Behalf Of *Martin >>>> Boroff >>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM >>>> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>>> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New >>>> allstarlink.org Website >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a >>>> drop down with choices like 25/page?. >>>> >>>> Otherwise, the site looks good. >>>> >>>> 73, Marty WD9GYM >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >>>> >>>> The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running >>>> continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback >>>> has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that >>>> feedback. >>>> >>>> If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit >>>> the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it >>>> out. >>>> >>>> The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. >>>> -- >>>> Tim WD6AWP >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and >>>> press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >>>> the list detailing the problem. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >>>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >>>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >>>> the list detailing the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and >>>> press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >>>> the list detailing the problem. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and >>>> press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >>> the list detailing the problem. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >>> the list detailing the problem. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nessenj at jimsoffice.org Mon Dec 17 22:48:34 2018 From: nessenj at jimsoffice.org (Jim Nessen) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 22:48:34 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website In-Reply-To: References: <2ED0D7E8-CE28-4839-8A48-E47A70E49A7D@gmail.com> <002801d48eab$803cb140$80b613c0$@org> <345E5920-152E-48A1-B545-FCAD934D0FD4@gmail.com> , Message-ID: I dont think he is talking about exposing email addresses, but having a contact form where you can contact the owner of node x. that form then sends whatever to the registered email address. the person who filled out the form has no clue of where it's going to, they just know that they attempted to contact the owner. IRLP does this via a simple "Ask a question" link on every single node status page. Jim, K6JWN ________________________________ From: App_rpt-users on behalf of Tim Sawyer Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 2:02 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website That would be a violation of our privacy policy: https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/about/privacy.php AllStarLink | Privacy web-tpa.allstarlink.org Repeater Controller with VoIP linking for Ham Radio I suggest using QRZ.com to lookup any email the node owner may choose to publish. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:27 AM Steve Passmore > wrote: New site looks good! One thing that would be nice to have is a way to contact a node owner (either an email, or a contact form) On some of the large hubs it's sometimes nice to contact the owner of a node when it is causing problems and there is often no easy way to do so. Thanks Steve On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:30 AM Bob Pyke > wrote: Yup, it is working. Didn?t before for me. Go figure. Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: That's not case sensitive for me. See attached screen grab. On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:29 PM Bob Pyke > wrote: No. The ID (our callsign) when filtering the node list Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:49 AM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: The login ID is not case sensitive. Is that the ID you meant? On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM Bob Pyke > wrote: It would be nice if the IDs were not case sensitive. Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Martin Boroff > wrote: Marshall Thanks for [pointing that out. My eyes went down the list and from there I used the NEXT button. I did not see the option. I also found the filter which took me direct to my node. Very nice. 73, Marty On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Marshall Oldham > wrote: Marty, That option is already there. Right under the words "Allstar Link Node List" You can click on the box and select show 15, 20, 50 or all. Marshall - ke6pcv From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boroff Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 6:20 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Reminder to Visit the New allstarlink.org Website Tim Could you either increase the number of nodes displayed or provide a drop down with choices like 25/page?. Otherwise, the site looks good. 73, Marty WD9GYM On Dec 7, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: The future allstarlink.org website has been up and running continuously since we announced it a week or so back. So far the feedback has been great. We've made a couple of minor modifications based on that feedback. If you missed the announcement or just haven't had a chance to visit the new site there is still plenty of time to have a look before we roll it out. The new site is temporally at web-tpa.allstarlink.org. -- Tim WD6AWP _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Tim WD6AWP _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Tim WD6AWP _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 00:56:00 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:56:00 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: <3DBEF671-97AC-4C1E-8C81-86313F07CDA1@gmail.com> References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> <3DBEF671-97AC-4C1E-8C81-86313F07CDA1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <013d01d4966c$720bb030$56231090$@gmail.com> Thanks Mike and Bob Exactly what I wanted to see. TTY later Harold K7ILO -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Bob Pyke Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:56 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 Tim is one of the main contributors to AllstarLink. Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 > On Dec 16, 2018, at 7:30 PM, Mike wrote: > > Harold, > > Allmon is authored by Tim Sawyer Independently > > https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 > > ...mike/kb8jnm > >> On 12/16/2018 9:58 PM, k7ilo1 at gmail.com wrote: >> Hey gang. >> >> Quick question... >> >> I'v seen it thrown around in the group here but just wanted to know >> if this add on is part of the other group that claims to be the >> developers of Allstarlink. >> >> Just asking and hope not to stir up anything. That is not my intention. >> >> Thanks >> >> Harold >> K7ILO >> 27863 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From george at dyb.com Tue Dec 18 14:05:51 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:05:51 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon Message-ID: I have allmon installed and have only one active node to monitor, 2360. I get report on it : no connections. But I have connections. I'm running the last version of limey. What is missing from rpt.conf to make allmon work? GeorgeC W2DB -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel From tisawyer at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 14:18:51 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 06:18:51 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The settings are in manager.conf on your node. Some settings have to match allmon.ini.php. Check the readme. I think it has the details. On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:06 AM George Csahanin wrote: > I have allmon installed and have only one active node to monitor, 2360. > I get report on it : no connections. But I have connections. > > I'm running the last version of limey. What is missing from rpt.conf to > make allmon work? > > GeorgeC W2DB > > -- > George Csahanin > 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. > Crowley, TX 76036 > 682-708-5716 home > 401-338-0568 cel > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william-t2 at live.com Wed Dec 19 14:59:21 2018 From: william-t2 at live.com (william howell) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 14:59:21 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com>, <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: For the powers to be or are, Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one as there was? Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, may not know. Thank you, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for better communications within our communities thru clubs and social networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... ________________________________ From: App_rpt-users on behalf of Mike Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:30 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 Harold, Allmon is authored by Tim Sawyer Independently https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/16/2018 9:58 PM, k7ilo1 at gmail.com wrote: > Hey gang. > > Quick question... > > I'v seen it thrown around in the group here but just wanted to know if this > add on is part of the > other group that claims to be the developers of Allstarlink. > > Just asking and hope not to stir up anything. That is not my intention. > > Thanks > > Harold > K7ILO > 27863 > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From ke6pcv at cal-net.org Wed Dec 19 20:49:37 2018 From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 12:49:37 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com>, <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <002d01d497dc$5b16fee0$1144fca0$@org> William, If you must know the truth, included in my reply below is a post that was made to the app_rpt in October from Kevin Custer. This should explain the history and why we have two outlets or groups. 73 Marshall - ke6pcv From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13 AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK). Jim is now passed on and was the inventor of AllStar Link. He is also responsible for many aspects of Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid application. To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source. The AllStar project is protected by GPL, a license that's visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of it. The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into continuing the AllStar Link project. They are fully responsible for vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its members, and a website to make it all happen. AllStarLink provides free support via several contact methods. AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by several individuals who regularly donate to it. In other words, it's generally free to the users. This doesn't mean it's free to maintain. There are real monthly costs associated with running it. I've personally carried the monthly fees myself. I'm not mentioning this for any recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make this project available to the amateur public. Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with. I had a few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself. But, you soon learned that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted. The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met with resistance from Jim. That led to Jim making the statement that the folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please. That's exactly what happened, but there's a catch.... If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things: 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly. 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public. If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your version of the work. What does this mean? It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the source code. NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply complied, and released the source. Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to do? HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise. They are not responsible for the membership. In recent months, they are quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to do with it. They even go on to make a very negative public perception of all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just go look at their home page and read the section on "August 15, 2018". While the transition of making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great project. They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're supposed to pretend they don't exist. Bryan has more time (and possibly more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing. Maybe now you understand his position more clearly. AllStarLink is responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY are AllStar, but they're not. And - now you know why. Kevin Custer W3KKC Board Member AllStarLink, Inc. From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of william howell Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:59 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 For the powers to be or are, Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one as there was? Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, may not know. Thank you, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ke6pcv at cal-net.org Wed Dec 19 23:12:29 2018 From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 15:12:29 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux Questions / Help Message-ID: <004d01d497f0$50c43c50$f24cb4f0$@org> Greetings, Looking for some help on this. I am running an embedded Allstarlink node here at my house that originally installed. With the help of Jim we updated the software a few times many, many years ago. I am running Limey-linux micro linux distribution version 1.1.2 Linux version 2.6.30.5 (srodgers at steverod) (gcc version 4.3.3 (GCC) ) #1 PREEMPT Sat Oct 9 18:51:49 PDT 2010 Since then Allstarlink has grown and we have issued out node numbers that are 4xxxx. When I try and make a connection to a 4xxxx node I get the following. calnet*CLI> rpt fun 2066 *349902 Node Variable dump for node 2066: RPT_TXKEYED=1 RPT_RXKEYED=0 RPT_NUMLINKS=0 RPT_LINKS=0 TRANSFERCAPABILITY=SPEECH -- 5 variables == Parsing '/var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes': Found [Dec 12 11:47:51] WARNING[3261]: channel.c:3051 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'irlp' -- Playing '/etc/asterisk/ke6pcv' (language 'en') == Refreshing DNS lookups. -- Hungup 'Zap/pseudo-209027774' Node Variable dump for node 2066: RPT_TXKEYED=0 RPT_RXKEYED=0 RPT_NUMLINKS=0 RPT_LINKS=0 TRANSFERCAPABILITY=SPEECH -- 5 variables I sent this question to Steve Rodgers and this was his reply. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rodgers Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:24 PM To: Marshall Oldham Subject: Re: Limey Linux Questions Hi Marshall, It's been a while, but as I recall, the 4xxxx number series was reserved for IRLP. There's probably a 1 or more tests in the code for 4xxxx in app_rpt.c. If your system is able to still compile Asterisk, Maybe someone who is local to you, and has more time then I do, and who knows C could take a look in the app_rpt.c file and find the lines which test for 4xxxx and try commenting them out and recompiling the code. Just make sure to save a copy the original app_rpt.c file in case something goes terribly wrong. Steve WA6ZFT ------------------------------------------------------- Is there someone out there that is familiar with Limey Linux and how it works that can help me out. I am guessing that all the Limey Linux out there has the same problem with regards to connecting to 4xxxx nodes. Can we fix this issue and update the app.rpt.c? Thanks Marshall - ke6pcv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at dyb.com Thu Dec 20 16:52:10 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 10:52:10 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] 3. Limey Linux Questions / Help (Marshall Oldham) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ffd7af8-699e-db93-49f1-9e78f869dedc@dyb.com> > 3. Limey Linux Questions / Help (Marshall Oldham) > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users Marshall, just yesterday I updated my Limey to the latest allstar/asterisk. I first tried just replacing the app_rpt.c file but that didn't fly. So I got the whole thing from github and in Limey I did getsrc then in the source tree went into the asterisk directory and deleted all. Next dropped the new asterisk/allstar source in to the directory. Some make files have permissions set to where it would not compile but I simply did 'chmod 755 * -R' and then went back up to the /usr/src/astsrc directrory and did 'make genconfig' First menu came up no changes needed, escape out and then more time till the main menu for asterisk comes up. Select as needed, escape out, hit "S" for save and let it compile. I got errors when the system was out of memory. So I tried again but eliminated echolink, channel voter and stuff I knew I didn't need. And especially the sound files, didn't compile them. They were already on the computer. Then it compiled and applied the new asterisk executable. But then you need to save it and for some reason the script "svastbin" didn't place the newly compiled asterisk on the cf card, so I moved it manually from /root and reboot, all went fine, it works great. My reason was to allow allmon to work with this node. The old 0.287 source didn't know about allmon. Hope this helps. Just curious, how long has your cf card been in service? Mine's been running since 2012. GeorgeC W2DB 2360 -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ve4drk at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 18:00:44 2018 From: ve4drk at gmail.com (Dan Keizer) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 12:00:44 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates Message-ID: HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming updates to the iaxRPT program. I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and it works well for accessing your node remotely. I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used it occasionally with windows. Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version. The dvswitch-mobile version (with lots of new features :-) ) will be public released in a couple of days ... looking forward to the new features. 73, Dan ve4drk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william-t2 at live.com Thu Dec 20 18:51:12 2018 From: william-t2 at live.com (william howell) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 18:51:12 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: <002d01d497dc$5b16fee0$1144fca0$@org> References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com>, <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> , <002d01d497dc$5b16fee0$1144fca0$@org> Message-ID: Well, I used the Asterisk software back in the early days (1999-2000) of the beginning of Asterisk I still have the first release or so and most releases since).....and honestly don't recall Jim Dixon having any major say over any portion of Asterisk, specifically app_rpt, back then. I do recall several conversations with Mark Spencer and/or his staff back in the day (2001-2005) during the early releases of Asterisk pertaining to app_rpt and why it wasn't being advanced when the rest of the Asterisk version was being released. At that time it was apparent that there was more interest in the full-blown PBX portion of Asterisk than there was in the radio control portion of the Asterisk software. I never heard of Jim Dixon until Asterisk had stated that they were not going to further app_rpt module and that anyone thinking of advancing it was free to do so. So base on the experience I have with Digium & Asterisk software since its inception I'm not sure that even Jim Dixon had any proprietary rights to the source code of the app_rpt module than anyone else, other than Mark Spencer, did/does. I've used Asterisk software since 1999-2000 as it was/is intended for. For both PBX systems and as a means to do radio control as I need. I personally don't care who has "rights" to it as I will always consider that Mark Spencer is the only one that has the rights to recognition for its development to begin with. What, if any, disputes among software developers, court battles, and/or any other conflicts there may be doesn't interest me period as long as the software is and remains open source use and that the software is being advanced. As long as advancements are being made I will go with those that do the advancements, or, I will move on, reinvent the wheel, and write my own code and be done. Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. It's not like there's going to be tons of money to make off of it as there are enough of us that will eventually get tired of the BS, the lack of advancement that makes it worth using, and will start our own source code that will work for all those wanting to control their repeater/radios. You must know by now that there are more users, other than Licensed Amateur Radio Operators, that have and are obtaining the software and using it for linking their repeaters across this nation. So why not decide to work together and make it useful for all. That's my rant for the day, thanks for your input. Have a great day, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for better communications within our communities thru clubs and social networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... ________________________________ From: App_rpt-users on behalf of Marshall Oldham Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:49 PM To: 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 William, If you must know the truth, included in my reply below is a post that was made to the app_rpt in October from Kevin Custer. This should explain the history and why we have two outlets or groups. 73 Marshall - ke6pcv From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13 AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK). Jim is now passed on and was the inventor of AllStar Link. He is also responsible for many aspects of Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid application. To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source. The AllStar project is protected by GPL, a license that's visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of it. The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into continuing the AllStar Link project. They are fully responsible for vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its members, and a website to make it all happen. AllStarLink provides free support via several contact methods. AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by several individuals who regularly donate to it. In other words, it's generally free to the users. This doesn't mean it's free to maintain. There are real monthly costs associated with running it. I've personally carried the monthly fees myself. I'm not mentioning this for any recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make this project available to the amateur public. Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with. I had a few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself. But, you soon learned that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted. The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met with resistance from Jim. That led to Jim making the statement that the folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please. That's exactly what happened, but there's a catch.... If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things: 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly. 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public. If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your version of the work. What does this mean? It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the source code. NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply complied, and released the source. Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to do? HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise. They are not responsible for the membership. In recent months, they are quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to do with it. They even go on to make a very negative public perception of all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just go look at their home page and read the section on "August 15, 2018". While the transition of making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great project. They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're supposed to pretend they don't exist. Bryan has more time (and possibly more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing. Maybe now you understand his position more clearly. AllStarLink is responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY are AllStar, but they're not. And - now you know why. Kevin Custer W3KKC Board Member AllStarLink, Inc. From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of william howell Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:59 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 For the powers to be or are, Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one as there was? Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, may not know. Thank you, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william-t2 at live.com Thu Dec 20 18:54:11 2018 From: william-t2 at live.com (william howell) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 18:54:11 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Has the desktop version been updated also? Have a great day, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for better communications within our communities thru clubs and social networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... ________________________________ From: App_rpt-users on behalf of Dan Keizer Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 1:00 PM To: ARM Allstar; Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming updates to the iaxRPT program. I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and it works well for accessing your node remotely. I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used it occasionally with windows. Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version. The dvswitch-mobile version (with lots of new features :-) ) will be public released in a couple of days ... looking forward to the new features. 73, Dan ve4drk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edpnjax at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 19:06:14 2018 From: edpnjax at gmail.com (EDPnJAX) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:06:14 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> <002d01d497dc$5b16fee0$1144fca0$@org> Message-ID: Please don?t start all this crap again Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2018, at 1:51 PM, william howell wrote: > > Well, I used the Asterisk software back in the early days (1999-2000) of the beginning of Asterisk I still have the first release or so and most releases since).....and honestly don't recall Jim Dixon having any major say over any portion of Asterisk, specifically app_rpt, back then. I do recall several conversations with Mark Spencer and/or his staff back in the day (2001-2005) during the early releases of Asterisk pertaining to app_rpt and why it wasn't being advanced when the rest of the Asterisk version was being released. At that time it was apparent that there was more interest in the full-blown PBX portion of Asterisk than there was in the radio control portion of the Asterisk software. I never heard of Jim Dixon until Asterisk had stated that they were not going to further app_rpt module and that anyone thinking of advancing it was free to do so. So base on the experience I have with Digium & Asterisk software since its inception I'm not sure that even Jim Dixon had any proprietary rights to the source code of the app_rpt module than anyone else, other than Mark Spencer, did/does. > > I've used Asterisk software since 1999-2000 as it was/is intended for. For both PBX systems and as a means to do radio control as I need. I personally don't care who has "rights" to it as I will always consider that Mark Spencer is the only one that has the rights to recognition for its development to begin with. What, if any, disputes among software developers, court battles, and/or any other conflicts there may be doesn't interest me period as long as the software is and remains open source use and that the software is being advanced. As long as advancements are being made I will go with those that do the advancements, or, I will move on, reinvent the wheel, and write my own code and be done. > > Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. It's not like there's going to be tons of money to make off of it as there are enough of us that will eventually get tired of the BS, the lack of advancement that makes it worth using, and will start our own source code that will work for all those wanting to control their repeater/radios. > > You must know by now that there are more users, other than Licensed Amateur Radio Operators, that have and are obtaining the software and using it for linking their repeaters across this nation. So why not decide to work together and make it useful for all. > > That's my rant for the day, thanks for your input. > > Have a great day, > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > > Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... > > > Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for better communications within our communities thru clubs and social networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... > > > From: App_rpt-users on behalf of Marshall Oldham > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:49 PM > To: 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > William, > > If you must know the truth, included in my reply below is a post that was made to the app_rpt in October from Kevin Custer. > > This should explain the history and why we have two outlets or groups. > > 73 > > Marshall - ke6pcv > > > > > > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13 > > AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK). Jim is now passed on and was the inventor of AllStar Link. He is also responsible for many aspects of Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid application. To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source. The AllStar project is protected by GPL, a license that's visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of it. > > The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into continuing the AllStar Link project. They are fully responsible for vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its members, and a website to make it all happen. AllStarLink provides free support via several contact methods. AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by several individuals who regularly donate to it. In other words, it's generally free to the users. This doesn't mean it's free to maintain. There are real monthly costs associated with running it. I've personally carried the monthly fees myself. I'm not mentioning this for any recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make this project available to the amateur public. > > Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with. I had a few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself. But, you soon learned that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted. > > The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met with resistance from Jim. That led to Jim making the statement that the folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please. That's exactly what happened, but there's a catch.... > > If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things: > 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly. > 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public. > > If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your version of the work. What does this mean? > > It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the source code. > > NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply complied, and released the source. Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to do? > > HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise. They are not responsible for the membership. In recent months, they are quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to do with it. They even go on to make a very negative public perception of all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just go look at their home page and read the section on "August 15, 2018". While the transition of making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great project. They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're supposed to pretend they don't exist. Bryan has more time (and possibly more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing. Maybe now you understand his position more clearly. AllStarLink is responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY are AllStar, but they're not. And - now you know why. > > Kevin Custer W3KKC > Board Member > AllStarLink, Inc. > > > > > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of william howell > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:59 AM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > For the powers to be or are, > > Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one as there was? > > Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, may not know. > > > Thank you, > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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Clifford KK6QMS From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of EDPnJAX Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:06 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 Please don?t start all this crap again Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2018, at 1:51 PM, william howell > wrote: Well, I used the Asterisk software back in the early days (1999-2000) of the beginning of Asterisk I still have the first release or so and most releases since).....and honestly don't recall Jim Dixon having any major say over any portion of Asterisk, specifically app_rpt, back then. I do recall several conversations with Mark Spencer and/or his staff back in the day (2001-2005) during the early releases of Asterisk pertaining to app_rpt and why it wasn't being advanced when the rest of the Asterisk version was being released. At that time it was apparent that there was more interest in the full-blown PBX portion of Asterisk than there was in the radio control portion of the Asterisk software. I never heard of Jim Dixon until Asterisk had stated that they were not going to further app_rpt module and that anyone thinking of advancing it was free to do so. So base on the experience I have with Digium & Asterisk software since its inception I'm not sure that even Jim Dixon had any proprietary rights to the source code of the app_rpt module than anyone else, other than Mark Spencer, did/does. I've used Asterisk software since 1999-2000 as it was/is intended for. For both PBX systems and as a means to do radio control as I need. I personally don't care who has "rights" to it as I will always consider that Mark Spencer is the only one that has the rights to recognition for its development to begin with. What, if any, disputes among software developers, court battles, and/or any other conflicts there may be doesn't interest me period as long as the software is and remains open source use and that the software is being advanced. As long as advancements are being made I will go with those that do the advancements, or, I will move on, reinvent the wheel, and write my own code and be done. Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. It's not like there's going to be tons of money to make off of it as there are enough of us that will eventually get tired of the BS, the lack of advancement that makes it worth using, and will start our own source code that will work for all those wanting to control their repeater/radios. You must know by now that there are more users, other than Licensed Amateur Radio Operators, that have and are obtaining the software and using it for linking their repeaters across this nation. So why not decide to work together and make it useful for all. That's my rant for the day, thanks for your input. Have a great day, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for better communications within our communities thru clubs and social networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... _____ From: App_rpt-users > on behalf of Marshall Oldham > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:49 PM To: 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 William, If you must know the truth, included in my reply below is a post that was made to the app_rpt in October from Kevin Custer. This should explain the history and why we have two outlets or groups. 73 Marshall - ke6pcv From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13 AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK). Jim is now passed on and was the inventor of AllStar Link. He is also responsible for many aspects of Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid application. To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source. The AllStar project is protected by GPL, a license that's visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of it. The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into continuing the AllStar Link project. They are fully responsible for vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its members, and a website to make it all happen. AllStarLink provides free support via several contact methods. AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by several individuals who regularly donate to it. In other words, it's generally free to the users. This doesn't mean it's free to maintain. There are real monthly costs associated with running it. I've personally carried the monthly fees myself. I'm not mentioning this for any recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make this project available to the amateur public. Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with. I had a few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself. But, you soon learned that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted. The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met with resistance from Jim. That led to Jim making the statement that the folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please. That's exactly what happened, but there's a catch.... If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things: 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly. 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public. If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your version of the work. What does this mean? It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the source code. NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply complied, and released the source. Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to do? HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise. They are not responsible for the membership. In recent months, they are quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to do with it. They even go on to make a very negative public perception of all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just go look at their home page and read the section on "August 15, 2018". While the transition of making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great project. They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're supposed to pretend they don't exist. Bryan has more time (and possibly more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing. Maybe now you understand his position more clearly. AllStarLink is responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY are AllStar, but they're not. And - now you know why. Kevin Custer W3KKC Board Member AllStarLink, Inc. From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of william howell Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:59 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 For the powers to be or are, Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one as there was? Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, may not know. Thank you, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnovey at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 19:27:12 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 11:27:12 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008701d4989a$02cc8390$08658ab0$@gmail.com> I would LOVE an alternative to Zoiper on Android. Last time I tried iaxRpt on Android it was buggy. Just loaded latest and now it allows me to set up an account manually but I cannot get it to connect. Any advice? Also- anyone know of alternatives to iaxRpt on PC? I would like to have more directory entries etc. Not sure if a better alternative exists. Clifford KK6QMS From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Dan Keizer Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:01 AM To: ARM Allstar ; Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming updates to the iaxRPT program. I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and it works well for accessing your node remotely. I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used it occasionally with windows. Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version. The dvswitch-mobile version (with lots of new features :-) ) will be public released in a couple of days ... looking forward to the new features. 73, Dan ve4drk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 19:34:16 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:34:16 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> <002d01d497dc$5b16fee0$1144fca0$@org> Message-ID: " Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. " Just a little tip, Allstarlink never did anything less then what you request, open source the code.. The hamvoip group never released there code.. So if you want to ask anyone to release there code.. Please make your self confortable to go on the hamvoip group and ask for it... I am sure it will not take more then a few minute before you get under post restriction if not simply kicked out.. For the rest have a great day. Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le jeu. 20 d?c. 2018 ? 13:51, william howell a ?crit : > Well, I used the Asterisk software back in the early days (1999-2000) of > the beginning of Asterisk I still have the first release or so and most > releases since).....and honestly don't recall Jim Dixon having any major > say over any portion of Asterisk, specifically app_rpt, back then. I do > recall several conversations with Mark Spencer and/or his staff back in the > day (2001-2005) during the early releases of Asterisk pertaining to app_rpt > and why it wasn't being advanced when the rest of the Asterisk version was > being released. At that time it was apparent that there was more interest > in the full-blown PBX portion of Asterisk than there was in the radio > control portion of the Asterisk software. I never heard of Jim Dixon until > Asterisk had stated that they were not going to further app_rpt module and > that anyone thinking of advancing it was free to do so. So base on the > experience I have with Digium & Asterisk software since its inception I'm > not sure that even Jim Dixon had any proprietary rights to the source code > of the app_rpt module than anyone else, other than Mark Spencer, did/does. > > I've used Asterisk software since 1999-2000 as it was/is intended for. For > both PBX systems and as a means to do radio control as I need. I personally > don't care who has "rights" to it as I will always consider that Mark > Spencer is the only one that has the rights to recognition for its > development to begin with. What, if any, disputes among software > developers, court battles, and/or any other conflicts there may be doesn't > interest me period as long as the software is and remains open source use > and that the software is being advanced. As long as advancements are being > made I will go with those that do the advancements, or, I will move on, > reinvent the wheel, and write my own code and be done. > > Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work > together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code > the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. It's > not like there's going to be tons of money to make off of it as there are > enough of us that will eventually get tired of the BS, the lack of > advancement that makes it worth using, and will start our own source code > that will work for all those wanting to control their repeater/radios. > > You must know by now that there are more users, other than Licensed > Amateur Radio Operators, that have and are obtaining the software and using > it for linking their repeaters across this nation. So why not decide to > work together and make it useful for all. > > That's my rant for the day, thanks for your input. > > Have a great day, > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > > Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & > wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable > Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central > Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... > Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... > > > Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, > Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for > better communications within our communities thru clubs and social > networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, > Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru > shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* App_rpt-users on > behalf of Marshall Oldham > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:49 PM > *To:* 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > > William, > > > > If you must know the truth, included in my reply below is a post that was > made to the app_rpt in October from Kevin Custer. > > > > This should explain the history and why we have two outlets or groups. > > > > 73 > > > > Marshall - ke6pcv > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] > *On Behalf Of *Kevin Custer > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13 > > > > AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the > project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK). Jim is now passed on and was the > inventor of AllStar Link. He is also responsible for many aspects of > Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes > Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of > several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source > project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid > application. To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source. > The AllStar project is protected by GPL, > a license that's > visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of > it. > > The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into > continuing the AllStar Link project. They are fully responsible for > vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), > issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its > members, and a website to make it all happen. AllStarLink provides free > support via several contact methods. AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by > several individuals who regularly donate to it. In other words, it's > generally free to the users. This doesn't mean it's free to maintain. > There are real monthly costs associated with running it. I've personally > carried the monthly fees myself. I'm not mentioning this for any > recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make > this project available to the amateur public. > > Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with. I had a > few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself. But, you soon learned > that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted. > > The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met > with resistance from Jim. That led to Jim making the statement that the > folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please. That's > exactly what happened, but there's a catch.... > > If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things: > 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly. > 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public. > > If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your > version of the work. What does this mean? > > It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to > redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the > source code. > > NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply > complied, and released the source. Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to > do? > > HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise. > They are not responsible for the membership. In recent months, they are > quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to > do with it. They even go on to make a very negative public perception of > all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just go look at their home > page and read the section on "August 15, 2018". While the transition of > making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as > planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like > this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great > project. They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're > supposed to pretend they don't exist. Bryan has more time (and possibly > more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing. > Maybe now you understand his position more clearly. AllStarLink is > responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY > are AllStar, but they're not. And - now you know why. > > Kevin Custer W3KKC > Board Member > AllStarLink, Inc. > > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] > *On Behalf Of *william howell > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:59 AM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > > > For the powers to be or are, > > > > Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and > is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and > that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code > the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one > as there was? > > > Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, > may not know. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Thu Dec 20 19:44:14 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:44:14 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates In-Reply-To: <008701d4989a$02cc8390$08658ab0$@gmail.com> References: <008701d4989a$02cc8390$08658ab0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <98020ff1-6c20-6d4c-38e3-e0e2216c2f6a@midnighteng.com> It will connect. I had the same issue but mine was a bit stranger and probably unique to me. But make sure you have a definition for the iax connection in iax.conf and a matching context for answering in extentions.conf There is no 'connect button' in the program. Select the connection you desire in the checkbox and watch for a 'connection indication' text on top of the app. If it fails, it is from improper match in user/pass/context in iax/ext files Take your time and look at it and think it through. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/20/2018 2:27 PM, cnovey wrote: > > I would LOVE an alternative to Zoiper on Android. Last time I tried > iaxRpt on Android it was buggy. Just loaded latest and now it allows > me to set up an account manually but I cannot get it to connect. Any > advice? Also- anyone know of alternatives to iaxRpt on PC? I would > like to have more directory entries etc. Not sure if a better > alternative exists. > > Clifford > > KK6QMS > > *From:* App_rpt-users > *On Behalf Of *Dan Keizer > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:01 AM > *To:* ARM Allstar ; Users of Asterisk app_rpt > > *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates > > HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming > updates to the iaxRPT program. > > I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and > it works well for accessing your node remotely. > > I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used > it occasionally with windows. > > Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version.? > The dvswitch-mobile version (with lots of new features :-)? ) will be > public released in a couple of days ...? looking forward to the new > features. > > 73, Dan ve4drk > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ve4drk at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 20:48:01 2018 From: ve4drk at gmail.com (Dan Keizer) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:48:01 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates In-Reply-To: <98020ff1-6c20-6d4c-38e3-e0e2216c2f6a@midnighteng.com> References: <008701d4989a$02cc8390$08658ab0$@gmail.com> <98020ff1-6c20-6d4c-38e3-e0e2216c2f6a@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I know when i first started to use iaxrpt, it wasn't exactly intuitive at first, but once yo u get the hang of it, it works well for it's purpose. The windows version was developed quite some time ago .. the 'about' shows: [image: image.png] that's quite some time ago. But, hey, it still works for me. FWIW, their help page goes to: http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/iaxrpthelp ... On the plus-side, to set up the iaxRPT, I've just recently seen some instructions at: https://dvswitch.groups.io/g/Mobile/wiki/AllStarLink-setup-for-DVSwitch-Mobile which might help. I know I had to modify 2 of the conf files (extensions/iax) on hamvoip to add a new remote user. Probably same for other distros. As for availability, yeah, 1.18 is currently out there. 1.41 should be out shortly from what I've seen. 73, Dan ve4drk On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:44 PM Mike wrote: > It will connect. I had the same issue but mine was a bit stranger and > probably unique to me. > > But make sure you have a definition for the iax connection in iax.conf and > a matching context for answering in extentions.conf > > There is no 'connect button' in the program. Select the connection you > desire in the checkbox and watch for a 'connection indication' text on top > of the app. > > If it fails, it is from improper match in user/pass/context in iax/ext > files > > Take your time and look at it and think it through. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > On 12/20/2018 2:27 PM, cnovey wrote: > > I would LOVE an alternative to Zoiper on Android. Last time I tried iaxRpt > on Android it was buggy. Just loaded latest and now it allows me to set up > an account manually but I cannot get it to connect. Any advice? Also- > anyone know of alternatives to iaxRpt on PC? I would like to have more > directory entries etc. Not sure if a better alternative exists. > > Clifford > > KK6QMS > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users > *On Behalf Of *Dan Keizer > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:01 AM > *To:* ARM Allstar ; > Users of Asterisk app_rpt > > *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates > > > > HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming updates > to the iaxRPT program. > > I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and it > works well for accessing your node remotely. > > I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used it > occasionally with windows. > > > > Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version. The > dvswitch-mobile version (with lots of new features :-) ) will be public > released in a couple of days ... looking forward to the new features. > > > > 73, Dan ve4drk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.orghttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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The Android version of iaxRpt would be nice if it worked for me as I dislike many things about Zoiper that do not work well for me. 73 Clifford From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:44 AM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates It will connect. I had the same issue but mine was a bit stranger and probably unique to me. But make sure you have a definition for the iax connection in iax.conf and a matching context for answering in extentions.conf There is no 'connect button' in the program. Select the connection you desire in the checkbox and watch for a 'connection indication' text on top of the app. If it fails, it is from improper match in user/pass/context in iax/ext files Take your time and look at it and think it through. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/20/2018 2:27 PM, cnovey wrote: I would LOVE an alternative to Zoiper on Android. Last time I tried iaxRpt on Android it was buggy. Just loaded latest and now it allows me to set up an account manually but I cannot get it to connect. Any advice? Also- anyone know of alternatives to iaxRpt on PC? I would like to have more directory entries etc. Not sure if a better alternative exists. Clifford KK6QMS From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Dan Keizer Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:01 AM To: ARM Allstar ; Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming updates to the iaxRPT program. I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and it works well for accessing your node remotely. I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used it occasionally with windows. Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version. 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URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Fri Dec 21 04:34:57 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 23:34:57 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> <002d01d497dc$5b16fee0$1144fca0$@org> Message-ID: app_rpt have been incorporated in asterisk at version asterisk-0.3.0 the app_rpt.c file was first seen in the app/ directory there... and the app_rpt.c started with this: /** @file app_rpt.c * * Asterisk -- A telephony toolkit for Linux. * * Radio Repeater program * * Copyright (C) 2002, Jim Dixon * * Jim Dixon * * This program is free software, distributed under the terms of * the GNU General Public License * */ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include events this kind of raise question on your memory of events in those days.. Have a great day! Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le jeu. 20 d?c. 2018 ? 13:51, william howell a ?crit : > Well, I used the Asterisk software back in the early days (1999-2000) of > the beginning of Asterisk I still have the first release or so and most > releases since).....and honestly don't recall Jim Dixon having any major > say over any portion of Asterisk, specifically app_rpt, back then. I do > recall several conversations with Mark Spencer and/or his staff back in the > day (2001-2005) during the early releases of Asterisk pertaining to app_rpt > and why it wasn't being advanced when the rest of the Asterisk version was > being released. At that time it was apparent that there was more interest > in the full-blown PBX portion of Asterisk than there was in the radio > control portion of the Asterisk software. I never heard of Jim Dixon until > Asterisk had stated that they were not going to further app_rpt module and > that anyone thinking of advancing it was free to do so. So base on the > experience I have with Digium & Asterisk software since its inception I'm > not sure that even Jim Dixon had any proprietary rights to the source code > of the app_rpt module than anyone else, other than Mark Spencer, did/does. > > I've used Asterisk software since 1999-2000 as it was/is intended for. For > both PBX systems and as a means to do radio control as I need. I personally > don't care who has "rights" to it as I will always consider that Mark > Spencer is the only one that has the rights to recognition for its > development to begin with. What, if any, disputes among software > developers, court battles, and/or any other conflicts there may be doesn't > interest me period as long as the software is and remains open source use > and that the software is being advanced. As long as advancements are being > made I will go with those that do the advancements, or, I will move on, > reinvent the wheel, and write my own code and be done. > > Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work > together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code > the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. It's > not like there's going to be tons of money to make off of it as there are > enough of us that will eventually get tired of the BS, the lack of > advancement that makes it worth using, and will start our own source code > that will work for all those wanting to control their repeater/radios. > > You must know by now that there are more users, other than Licensed > Amateur Radio Operators, that have and are obtaining the software and using > it for linking their repeaters across this nation. So why not decide to > work together and make it useful for all. > > That's my rant for the day, thanks for your input. > > Have a great day, > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > > Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & > wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable > Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central > Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... > Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... > > > Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, > Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for > better communications within our communities thru clubs and social > networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, > Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru > shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* App_rpt-users on > behalf of Marshall Oldham > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:49 PM > *To:* 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > > William, > > > > If you must know the truth, included in my reply below is a post that was > made to the app_rpt in October from Kevin Custer. > > > > This should explain the history and why we have two outlets or groups. > > > > 73 > > > > Marshall - ke6pcv > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] > *On Behalf Of *Kevin Custer > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13 > > > > AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the > project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK). Jim is now passed on and was the > inventor of AllStar Link. He is also responsible for many aspects of > Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes > Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of > several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source > project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid > application. To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source. > The AllStar project is protected by GPL, > a license that's > visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of > it. > > The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into > continuing the AllStar Link project. They are fully responsible for > vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), > issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its > members, and a website to make it all happen. AllStarLink provides free > support via several contact methods. AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by > several individuals who regularly donate to it. In other words, it's > generally free to the users. This doesn't mean it's free to maintain. > There are real monthly costs associated with running it. I've personally > carried the monthly fees myself. I'm not mentioning this for any > recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make > this project available to the amateur public. > > Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with. I had a > few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself. But, you soon learned > that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted. > > The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met > with resistance from Jim. That led to Jim making the statement that the > folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please. That's > exactly what happened, but there's a catch.... > > If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things: > 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly. > 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public. > > If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your > version of the work. What does this mean? > > It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to > redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the > source code. > > NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply > complied, and released the source. Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to > do? > > HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise. > They are not responsible for the membership. In recent months, they are > quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to > do with it. They even go on to make a very negative public perception of > all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just go look at their home > page and read the section on "August 15, 2018". While the transition of > making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as > planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like > this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great > project. They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're > supposed to pretend they don't exist. Bryan has more time (and possibly > more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing. > Maybe now you understand his position more clearly. AllStarLink is > responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY > are AllStar, but they're not. And - now you know why. > > Kevin Custer W3KKC > Board Member > AllStarLink, Inc. > > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] > *On Behalf Of *william howell > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:59 AM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > > > For the powers to be or are, > > > > Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and > is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and > that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code > the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one > as there was? > > > Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, > may not know. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at dyb.com Fri Dec 21 15:35:38 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 09:35:38 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] allmon2 question Message-ID: <583b47ac-7329-4474-6595-02fec2db98dd@dyb.com> I have allmon deployed on an internal server here. It works fine. I have a remote server I installed allmon on, modified allmon.ini.php, pointed the address for the allstar boxes here, opened ports to allow access, etc. But when looking at the allmon page on web browser all I get is the text inside index.php All files are identical between the two servers. Except for the changes in IP address for the allstar boxes. What am I doing incorrectly? GeorgeC W2DB 2360 -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel From mm at midnighteng.com Fri Dec 21 18:38:13 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:38:13 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] allmon2 question In-Reply-To: <583b47ac-7329-4474-6595-02fec2db98dd@dyb.com> References: <583b47ac-7329-4474-6595-02fec2db98dd@dyb.com> Message-ID: <3c6d6393-6053-6dda-92f9-c665f7bbceeb@midnighteng.com> can you shoot me the address so I can see before making you check things. (off list if you wish) ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/21/2018 10:35 AM, George Csahanin wrote: > I have allmon deployed on an internal server here. It works fine. I > have a remote server I installed allmon on, modified allmon.ini.php, > pointed the address for the allstar boxes here, opened ports to allow > access, etc. But when looking at the allmon page on web browser all I > get is the text inside index.php > > All files are identical between the two servers. Except for the > changes in IP address for the allstar boxes. > > What am I doing incorrectly? > > GeorgeC W2DB 2360 > From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Sat Dec 22 03:34:58 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 19:34:58 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> <002d01d497dc$5b16fee0$1144fca0$@org> Message-ID: <019f01d499a7$511759e0$f3460da0$@gmail.com> Dangit. I started this thread just inquiring about Allmon2 and I stated that I wasn?t inquiring to start anything. Why did it have to get to this point? AGAIN!! I agree with the others. Lets not do this again gang. BTW, I got it working quite well on my system, if anyone cares since I inquired about it. Great add-on. Harold K7ILO Las Vegas, NV. 27863 From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Pierre Martel Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:34 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 " Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. " Just a little tip, Allstarlink never did anything less then what you request, open source the code.. The hamvoip group never released there code.. So if you want to ask anyone to release there code.. Please make your self confortable to go on the hamvoip group and ask for it... I am sure it will not take more then a few minute before you get under post restriction if not simply kicked out.. For the rest have a great day. Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com Le jeu. 20 d?c. 2018 ? 13:51, william howell > a ?crit : Well, I used the Asterisk software back in the early days (1999-2000) of the beginning of Asterisk I still have the first release or so and most releases since).....and honestly don't recall Jim Dixon having any major say over any portion of Asterisk, specifically app_rpt, back then. I do recall several conversations with Mark Spencer and/or his staff back in the day (2001-2005) during the early releases of Asterisk pertaining to app_rpt and why it wasn't being advanced when the rest of the Asterisk version was being released. At that time it was apparent that there was more interest in the full-blown PBX portion of Asterisk than there was in the radio control portion of the Asterisk software. I never heard of Jim Dixon until Asterisk had stated that they were not going to further app_rpt module and that anyone thinking of advancing it was free to do so. So base on the experience I have with Digium & Asterisk software since its inception I'm not sure that even Jim Dixon had any proprietary rights to the source code of the app_rpt module than anyone else, other than Mark Spencer, did/does. I've used Asterisk software since 1999-2000 as it was/is intended for. For both PBX systems and as a means to do radio control as I need. I personally don't care who has "rights" to it as I will always consider that Mark Spencer is the only one that has the rights to recognition for its development to begin with. What, if any, disputes among software developers, court battles, and/or any other conflicts there may be doesn't interest me period as long as the software is and remains open source use and that the software is being advanced. As long as advancements are being made I will go with those that do the advancements, or, I will move on, reinvent the wheel, and write my own code and be done. Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. It's not like there's going to be tons of money to make off of it as there are enough of us that will eventually get tired of the BS, the lack of advancement that makes it worth using, and will start our own source code that will work for all those wanting to control their repeater/radios. You must know by now that there are more users, other than Licensed Amateur Radio Operators, that have and are obtaining the software and using it for linking their repeaters across this nation. So why not decide to work together and make it useful for all. That's my rant for the day, thanks for your input. Have a great day, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for better communications within our communities thru clubs and social networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... _____ From: App_rpt-users > on behalf of Marshall Oldham > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:49 PM To: 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 William, If you must know the truth, included in my reply below is a post that was made to the app_rpt in October from Kevin Custer. This should explain the history and why we have two outlets or groups. 73 Marshall - ke6pcv From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org ] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13 AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK). Jim is now passed on and was the inventor of AllStar Link. He is also responsible for many aspects of Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid application. To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source. The AllStar project is protected by GPL, a license that's visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of it. The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into continuing the AllStar Link project. They are fully responsible for vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its members, and a website to make it all happen. AllStarLink provides free support via several contact methods. AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by several individuals who regularly donate to it. In other words, it's generally free to the users. This doesn't mean it's free to maintain. There are real monthly costs associated with running it. I've personally carried the monthly fees myself. I'm not mentioning this for any recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make this project available to the amateur public. Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with. I had a few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself. But, you soon learned that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted. The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met with resistance from Jim. That led to Jim making the statement that the folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please. That's exactly what happened, but there's a catch.... If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things: 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly. 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public. If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your version of the work. What does this mean? It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the source code. NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply complied, and released the source. Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to do? HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise. They are not responsible for the membership. In recent months, they are quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to do with it. They even go on to make a very negative public perception of all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just go look at their home page and read the section on "August 15, 2018". While the transition of making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great project. They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're supposed to pretend they don't exist. Bryan has more time (and possibly more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing. Maybe now you understand his position more clearly. AllStarLink is responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY are AllStar, but they're not. And - now you know why. Kevin Custer W3KKC Board Member AllStarLink, Inc. From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org ] On Behalf Of william howell Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:59 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 For the powers to be or are, Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one as there was? Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, may not know. Thank you, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Sat Dec 22 03:56:29 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 22:56:29 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 In-Reply-To: <019f01d499a7$511759e0$f3460da0$@gmail.com> References: <004301d495b4$5d2ed830$178c8890$@gmail.com> <6e7ce17c-447d-b5c8-5363-34fe336c8ded@midnighteng.com> <002d01d497dc$5b16fee0$1144fca0$@org> <019f01d499a7$511759e0$f3460da0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Education is a never ending process.. Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le ven. 21 d?c. 2018 ? 22:35, a ?crit : > Dangit. > > > > I started this thread just inquiring about Allmon2 and I stated that I > wasn?t inquiring to start anything. > > Why did it have to get to this point? AGAIN!! I agree with the others. > > Lets not do this again gang. > > > > BTW, I got it working quite well on my system, if anyone cares since I > inquired about it. > > Great add-on. > > > > Harold > > K7ILO > > Las Vegas, NV. > > 27863 > > > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users *On > Behalf Of *Pierre Martel > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:34 AM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > > > " Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work > together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code > the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. " > > > > Just a little tip, Allstarlink never did anything less then what you > request, open source the code.. The hamvoip group never released there > code.. So if you want to ask anyone to release there code.. Please make > your self confortable to go on the hamvoip group and ask for it... I am > sure it will not take more then a few minute before you get under post > restriction if not simply kicked out.. > > > > For the rest have a great day. > > > > > > > > > > > Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com > > > > > Le jeu. 20 d?c. 2018 ? 13:51, william howell a > ?crit : > > Well, I used the Asterisk software back in the early days (1999-2000) of > the beginning of Asterisk I still have the first release or so and most > releases since).....and honestly don't recall Jim Dixon having any major > say over any portion of Asterisk, specifically app_rpt, back then. I do > recall several conversations with Mark Spencer and/or his staff back in the > day (2001-2005) during the early releases of Asterisk pertaining to app_rpt > and why it wasn't being advanced when the rest of the Asterisk version was > being released. At that time it was apparent that there was more interest > in the full-blown PBX portion of Asterisk than there was in the radio > control portion of the Asterisk software. I never heard of Jim Dixon until > Asterisk had stated that they were not going to further app_rpt module and > that anyone thinking of advancing it was free to do so. So base on the > experience I have with Digium & Asterisk software since its inception I'm > not sure that even Jim Dixon had any proprietary rights to the source code > of the app_rpt module than anyone else, other than Mark Spencer, did/does. > > > > I've used Asterisk software since 1999-2000 as it was/is intended for. For > both PBX systems and as a means to do radio control as I need. I personally > don't care who has "rights" to it as I will always consider that Mark > Spencer is the only one that has the rights to recognition for its > development to begin with. What, if any, disputes among software > developers, court battles, and/or any other conflicts there may be doesn't > interest me period as long as the software is and remains open source use > and that the software is being advanced. As long as advancements are being > made I will go with those that do the advancements, or, I will move on, > reinvent the wheel, and write my own code and be done. > > Frankly, there is no reason that both HamVoip & AllstarLink can't work > together, stop the division, settle differences, and open the source code > the two of you have to all of us that are willing to help advance it. It's > not like there's going to be tons of money to make off of it as there are > enough of us that will eventually get tired of the BS, the lack of > advancement that makes it worth using, and will start our own source code > that will work for all those wanting to control their repeater/radios. > > You must know by now that there are more users, other than Licensed > Amateur Radio Operators, that have and are obtaining the software and using > it for linking their repeaters across this nation. So why not decide to > work together and make it useful for all. > > That's my rant for the day, thanks for your input. > > > > Have a great day, > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > > Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & > wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable > Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central > Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... > Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... > > > Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, > Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for > better communications within our communities thru clubs and social > networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, > Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru > shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* App_rpt-users on > behalf of Marshall Oldham > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:49 PM > *To:* 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > > > William, > > > > If you must know the truth, included in my reply below is a post that was > made to the app_rpt in October from Kevin Custer. > > > > This should explain the history and why we have two outlets or groups. > > > > 73 > > > > Marshall - ke6pcv > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] > *On Behalf Of *Kevin Custer > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13 > > > > AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the > project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK). Jim is now passed on and was the > inventor of AllStar Link. He is also responsible for many aspects of > Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes > Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of > several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source > project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid > application. To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source. > The AllStar project is protected by GPL, > a license that's > visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of > it. > > The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into > continuing the AllStar Link project. They are fully responsible for > vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), > issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its > members, and a website to make it all happen. AllStarLink provides free > support via several contact methods. AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by > several individuals who regularly donate to it. In other words, it's > generally free to the users. This doesn't mean it's free to maintain. > There are real monthly costs associated with running it. I've personally > carried the monthly fees myself. I'm not mentioning this for any > recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make > this project available to the amateur public. > > Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with. I had a > few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself. But, you soon learned > that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted. > > The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met > with resistance from Jim. That led to Jim making the statement that the > folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please. That's > exactly what happened, but there's a catch.... > > If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things: > 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly. > 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public. > > If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your > version of the work. What does this mean? > > It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to > redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the > source code. > > NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply > complied, and released the source. Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to > do? > > HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise. > They are not responsible for the membership. In recent months, they are > quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to > do with it. They even go on to make a very negative public perception of > all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just go look at their home > page and read the section on "August 15, 2018". While the transition of > making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as > planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like > this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great > project. They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're > supposed to pretend they don't exist. Bryan has more time (and possibly > more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing. > Maybe now you understand his position more clearly. AllStarLink is > responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY > are AllStar, but they're not. And - now you know why. > > Kevin Custer W3KKC > Board Member > AllStarLink, Inc. > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] > *On Behalf Of *william howell > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:59 AM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Allmon/2 > > > > For the powers to be or are, > > > > Who is the "other group" claiming to be developers of Allstar that has and > is being mentioned and what is the difference between this Allstar here and > that Allstar there? Are the two not open source and both base source code > the same? Why are there apparently two different outlets and not just one > as there was? > > > Only asking for my benefit and the benefit of others that still, like me, > may not know. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From john.chartkoff at protonmail.com Sat Dec 22 05:09:51 2018 From: john.chartkoff at protonmail.com (John) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 05:09:51 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] MDC-1200 & Notch FIlter Message-ID: Hello to the group, Please pardon - I'm a noobie at some of this... I am trying to get MDC1200 encode and decode operating on an RPi3 that is running the most updated Hamvoip build. I followed instructions at http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/104 and cloned the KA6SQG mdc-encode-decode library and copied all the .c and .h files into the apps directory. I also did the same for mkfilter. I attempted to compile the latest version of Allstar on github with the #include lines for encode, decode and notch filter uncommented in app_rpt.c. ./configure completes without any errors, but I get the following error when it gets to doing something with aelparse. collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status /usr/src/Asterisk/asterisk/Makefile.rules:78: recipe for target 'aelparse' failed make[1]: *** [aelparse] Error 1 rm simpleusb-tune-menu.o radio-tune-menu.o pi-tune-menu.o make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/Asterisk/asterisk/utils' Makefile:364: recipe for target 'utils' failed make: *** [utils] Error 2 Note: I can't run the gcc 4.9 library on an Armv7 RPi3. Only v5.3.0 will compile. (Not sure if running 5.3.0 is causing the problem. The comments at https://github.com/AllStarLink/Asterisk say to run 4.9.) Please advise with instructions on how to solve this issue. Thank you kindly, and Merry Christmas. John R. 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[usb_29999] pp5=ptt pp10=cor eeprom = 0????????????? ; EEPROM installed: 0,1 ??????????????????????? ; 0 = no (default) ??????????????????????? ; 1 = yes hdwtype = 0????? ??? ?? ; Leave this set to 0 for USB sound fobs modified using ??? ??? ????????????? ; the instructions from usbfob.pdf. Use a setting of ??? ??? ??? ???????? ; 1 is for Dingotel/Sph interfaces. duplex = 1????????????? ; Duplex / 0 - half duplex /? 1 - full duplex ; Receiver parameters ;carrierfrom=no ;carrierfrom=dsp ;carrierfrom=pp carrierfrom=ppinvert ;carrierfrom=usb ;carrierfrom=usbinvert ;carrierfrom=vox ;? Tone & CTCSS ;ctcssfrom=no ctcssfrom=dsp ;ctcssfrom=usb ;ctcssfrom=rxdemod ;txctcssdefault=100.0 ;rxctcssfreqs=100.0;67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.3 ;txctcssfreqs=100.0;67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.3 rxctcssoverride=1 plfilter=yes rxctcssrelax=1??? ; reduce talkoff from radios w/o CTCSS Tx HPF ??? ??? ??? ; Do not change this, leave this as a 1 deemphasis = no????? ; enable de-emphasis (input from discriminator) rxondelay = 10? ??? ??? ; number of 20ms intervals to hold off receiver turn-on indication rxboost = 0???????????? ; 0 = 20db attenuator inserted, 1= 20db attenuator removed ??????????????????????? ; Set to 1 for additonal gain if using a low-level receiver output ; Transmitter parameters txboost = 0 txmixa = voice????????? ; Left channel output (A): no,voice ??????????????????????? ; no - Do not output anything ??????????????????????? ; voice - output voice only txmixb = no????? ??? ? ; Right channel output (B): no,voice ??????????????????????? ; no - Do not output anything ??????????????????????? ; voice - output voice only invertptt = 0?????????? ; Invert PTT: 0,1 ( 0 - ground to transmit, 1 - open to transmit ) preemphasis = 0??? ??? ?? ; Perform standard 6db/octave pre-emphasis rxdemod=flat txprelim=yes txlimonly=no ; pager = no??????????? ; no,a,b (e.g. pager = b means "put the normal repeat audio on channel A, and the pager audio on channel B") ; duplex3 = 0?????????? ; duplex 3 gain setting (0 to disable) #includeifexists custom/simpleusb.conf ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/22/2018 6:06 PM, ea8ee wrote: > I have used my node as a hub for a long time and now I want to use it > as a simple usb with uri which files I should modify > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Do not say all you have to do is follow the setup script. That did not work for me. The material on the website is very confusing to me. I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK URI. The radio I am using is a Motorola CDM1500 LS. 73 Tom AD2TM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Dec 23 15:07:48 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 10:07:48 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might start with a specific question and if you wish to provide a statement, make it the version of software you are questioning and the hardware you are applying it to. You might include what you have accomplished and working so we know where you are. That's the best way I know to get help. Ask the group but don't leave them in the blind to 'make guesses' to what you have or want. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/23/2018 8:30 AM, AD2TM wrote: > Greetings of the season to all. > Over the past year I have been unsuccessful at getting an installation > to Allstar Asterisk to function. I even tried the, excuse me, Ham VOIP > version and did not have any luck with that either. I have tried the > X86 version and the Raspberry version. Yes I installed the X86 version > on an old Dell laptop. The Pi version was on a Pi 3, with a 16GB card. > > Is there or can someone create a step by step guide for installation? > Do not say all you have to do is follow the setup script. That did not > work for me. > The material on the website is very confusing to me. > > I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK URI. 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Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.14.84-sunxi' Makefile:74: recipe for target 'modules' failed make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux' Makefile:9: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 What can I do? Thanks, Marco IW0RED -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From gravesb at gmail.com Mon Dec 24 00:28:11 2018 From: gravesb at gmail.com (Brian G) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:28:11 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CM119 USB interface Message-ID: Hi all, Merry Christmas My local club is working on setting up a few ASL nodes, and I've been busy modifying some CM119 based USB sound cards to control the radios. I'm using this card/dongle: https://www.amazon.ca/Syba-SD-CM-UAUD-Adapter-C-Media-Chipset/dp/B001MSS6CS I've done several so far and have a few nodes working great with CTCSS carrier detect. One issue I'm consistently running into, is when setting the "RX Squelch Level" in the radio-tune-menu, it detects the current RX signal strength as 999. This results in the inability to use anything other than CTCSS for carrier detect. I can make plain old VOX work too, but it results in considerable (2 sec+) hang time. Using DSP carrier detect won't work because it's impossible to set the squelch high enough (max value 999). It always thinks there's a signal present when there isn't. This happens regardless of whether there's a radio connected to the dongle or not. As a matter of fact it happens even when plugging in an unmodified dongle right out of the package. I need it to work with no CTCSS. VOX would be fine if it wasn't for the hang time, but would rather use the DSP option in usbradio.conf. I assume it's just the nature of the beast, and if I want it done properly I need an adapter and radio capable of COS. But maybe someone knows if there's something that can be done or not? Anyone have any insight on how to either eliminate the VOX hang time, or eliminate that "invisible" signal? I might be overlooking something. Thanks for reading! -- Brian - VA3DXV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Dec 24 01:30:20 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 20:30:20 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CM119 USB interface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <927208f9-c77f-e6d2-665d-1bc85f451692@midnighteng.com> Brian, I could be wrong and you may get a better answer but I believe if I understand right, the rx sq level is for vox and you should/normally be using cos from a pin on your fob, parallel port or using ctcss trigger for the COS ...mike/kb8jnm (oh... I may be about to find out for sure again as I try to setup my hr remote again anew) On 12/23/2018 7:28 PM, Brian G wrote: > Hi all, Merry Christmas > > My local club is working on setting up a few ASL nodes, and I've been > busy modifying some CM119 based USB sound cards to control the radios. > I'm using this card/dongle: > https://www.amazon.ca/Syba-SD-CM-UAUD-Adapter-C-Media-Chipset/dp/B001MSS6CS > > I've done several so far and have a few nodes working great with CTCSS > carrier detect. One issue I'm consistently running into, is when > setting the "RX Squelch Level" in the radio-tune-menu, it detects the > current RX signal strength as 999. This results in the inability to > use anything other than CTCSS for carrier detect. I can make plain old > VOX work too, but it results in considerable (2 sec+) hang time. > > Using DSP carrier detect won't work because it's impossible to set the > squelch high enough (max value 999). It always thinks there's a signal > present when there isn't. This happens regardless of whether there's a > radio connected to the dongle or not. As a matter of fact it happens > even when plugging in an unmodified dongle right out of the package. I > need it to work with no CTCSS. VOX would be fine if it wasn't for the > hang time, but would rather use the DSP option in usbradio.conf. > > I assume it's just the nature of the beast, and if I want it done > properly I need an adapter and radio capable of COS. But maybe someone > knows if there's something that can be done or not? Anyone have any > insight on how to either eliminate the VOX hang time, or eliminate > that "invisible" signal? I might be overlooking something. 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URL: From ve2abc at ve2abc.com Mon Dec 24 02:14:24 2018 From: ve2abc at ve2abc.com (=?utf-8?Q?Serge_B=C3=A9rub=C3=A9?=) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:14:24 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501d49b2e$651c2050$2f5460f0$@com> I had the very same results, after 11 tryes , I get results? well I had to discover( guess) many things and learn the linux slang? May I help you ? PM me at ve2abc at ve2abc dot com? Best Regards, Serge De : App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] De la part de Mike Envoy? : 23 d?cembre 2018 10:08 ? : app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Objet : Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user You might start with a specific question and if you wish to provide a statement, make it the version of software you are questioning and the hardware you are applying it to. You might include what you have accomplished and working so we know where you are. That's the best way I know to get help. Ask the group but don't leave them in the blind to 'make guesses' to what you have or want. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/23/2018 8:30 AM, AD2TM wrote: Over the past year I have been unsuccessful at getting an installation to Allstar Asterisk to function. I even tried the, excuse me, Ham VOIP version and did not have any luck with that either. I have tried the X86 version and the Raspberry version. Yes I installed the X86 version on an old Dell laptop. The Pi version was on a Pi 3, with a 16GB card. Is there or can someone create a step by step guide for installation? Do not say all you have to do is follow the setup script. That did not work for me. The material on the website is very confusing to me. I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK URI. The radio I am using is a Motorola CDM1500 LS. 73 Tom AD2TM _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier ?lectronique a ?t? v?rifi?e par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kuggie at kuggie.com Mon Dec 24 02:29:08 2018 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:29:08 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CM119 USB interface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <236a1cb1-e02c-2b4b-fa12-d94aab86cfc9@kuggie.com> Brian, If the application reports 999, my guess is you aren't inputting raw discriminator audio into the interface.? If the audio you are inputting into your radio interface has been Low Pass Filtered or is squelch gated, you cannot use DSP for noise squelch detection. ? The application will tell you if there is sufficient squelch noise to utilize DSP noise squelch detection after you do the "radio tune rxnoise" command. If it fails, the audio type, amount, or quality isn't sufficient for DSP noise detection. When fed with good discriminator audio, the noise squelch detection in app_rpt is nearly as good as a Motorola M6709 (analog) squelch chip, commonly thought to be the high water mark in noise squelch detection.? 999 is the total absence of noise, and is the result one would expect with a full quieting signal, or an inappropriately muted RX audio line. Kevin W3KKC On 12/23/2018 7:28 PM, Brian G wrote: > Hi all, Merry Christmas > > My local club is working on setting up a few ASL nodes, and I've been > busy modifying some CM119 based USB sound cards to control the radios. > I'm using this card/dongle: > https://www.amazon.ca/Syba-SD-CM-UAUD-Adapter-C-Media-Chipset/dp/B001MSS6CS > > I've done several so far and have a few nodes working great with CTCSS > carrier detect. One issue I'm consistently running into, is when > setting the "RX Squelch Level" in the radio-tune-menu, it detects the > current RX signal strength as 999. This results in the inability to > use anything other than CTCSS for carrier detect. I can make plain old > VOX work too, but it results in considerable (2 sec+) hang time. > > Using DSP carrier detect won't work because it's impossible to set the > squelch high enough (max value 999). It always thinks there's a signal > present when there isn't. This happens regardless of whether there's a > radio connected to the dongle or not. As a matter of fact it happens > even when plugging in an unmodified dongle right out of the package. I > need it to work with no CTCSS. VOX would be fine if it wasn't for the > hang time, but would rather use the DSP option in usbradio.conf. > > I assume it's just the nature of the beast, and if I want it done > properly I need an adapter and radio capable of COS. But maybe someone > knows if there's something that can be done or not? Anyone have any > insight on how to either eliminate the VOX hang time, or eliminate > that "invisible" signal? I might be overlooking something. Thanks for > reading! > -- > Brian - VA3DXV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gravesb at gmail.com Mon Dec 24 02:58:51 2018 From: gravesb at gmail.com (Brian G) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:58:51 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CM119 USB interface In-Reply-To: <236a1cb1-e02c-2b4b-fa12-d94aab86cfc9@kuggie.com> References: <236a1cb1-e02c-2b4b-fa12-d94aab86cfc9@kuggie.com> Message-ID: Hi Kevin, thanks very much... I understand 999 is supposed to represent a strong fully quiet signal. That's the issue, there isn't one...but app_rpt thinks there's a signal present and is sending it 100% of the time, unless I use CTCSS decode (or plain vox), which I don't want to do for this node. I'm using the discriminator output from a Motorola Radius M120, but the same issue occurs on other rigs, and the "signal level" is still at 999 regardless of if there's a radio connected to the dongle or not :( If there's no input, signal level should be at (or close to) zero, shouldn't it? On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 9:29 PM Kevin Custer wrote: > Brian, > > If the application reports 999, my guess is you aren't inputting raw > discriminator audio into the interface. If the audio you are inputting > into your radio interface has been Low Pass Filtered or is squelch gated, > you cannot use DSP for noise squelch detection. The application will tell > you if there is sufficient squelch noise to utilize DSP noise squelch > detection after you do the "radio tune rxnoise" command. If it fails, the > audio type, amount, or quality isn't sufficient for DSP noise detection. > > When fed with good discriminator audio, the noise squelch detection in > app_rpt is nearly as good as a Motorola M6709 (analog) squelch chip, > commonly thought to be the high water mark in noise squelch detection. 999 > is the total absence of noise, and is the result one would expect with a > full quieting signal, or an inappropriately muted RX audio line. > > Kevin W3KKC > > > > On 12/23/2018 7:28 PM, Brian G wrote: > > Hi all, Merry Christmas > > My local club is working on setting up a few ASL nodes, and I've been busy > modifying some CM119 based USB sound cards to control the radios. I'm using > this card/dongle: > https://www.amazon.ca/Syba-SD-CM-UAUD-Adapter-C-Media-Chipset/dp/B001MSS6CS > > I've done several so far and have a few nodes working great with CTCSS > carrier detect. One issue I'm consistently running into, is when setting > the "RX Squelch Level" in the radio-tune-menu, it detects the current RX > signal strength as 999. This results in the inability to use anything other > than CTCSS for carrier detect. I can make plain old VOX work too, but it > results in considerable (2 sec+) hang time. > > Using DSP carrier detect won't work because it's impossible to set the > squelch high enough (max value 999). It always thinks there's a signal > present when there isn't. This happens regardless of whether there's a > radio connected to the dongle or not. As a matter of fact it happens even > when plugging in an unmodified dongle right out of the package. I need it > to work with no CTCSS. VOX would be fine if it wasn't for the hang time, > but would rather use the DSP option in usbradio.conf. > > I assume it's just the nature of the beast, and if I want it done properly > I need an adapter and radio capable of COS. But maybe someone knows if > there's something that can be done or not? Anyone have any insight on how > to either eliminate the VOX hang time, or eliminate that "invisible" > signal? I might be overlooking something. Thanks for reading! > -- > Brian - VA3DXV > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Mon Dec 24 03:04:31 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 22:04:31 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user In-Reply-To: <001501d49b2e$651c2050$2f5460f0$@com> References: <001501d49b2e$651c2050$2f5460f0$@com> Message-ID: I wonder why I was able to make allstarlink work out right of the box. Must be cause I was reading the docs and almost all of the post in the mailling list. I did ask a few question. But those were very specific if my memory is right... Le dim. 23 d?c. 2018 ? 21:14, Serge B?rub? a ?crit : > I had the very same results, after 11 tryes , I get results? well I had > to discover( guess) many things and learn the linux slang? > > May I help you ? PM me at ve2abc at ve2abc dot com? > > Best Regards, Serge > > > > > > *De :* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] *De > la part de* Mike > *Envoy? :* 23 d?cembre 2018 10:08 > *? :* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > *Objet :* Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user > > > > You might start with a specific question and if you wish to provide a > statement, > > make it the version of software you are questioning and the hardware you > are applying it to. > > You might include what you have accomplished and working so we know where > you are. > > That's the best way I know to get help. Ask the group but don't leave them > in the blind to 'make guesses' to what you have or want. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/23/2018 8:30 AM, AD2TM wrote: > > Over the past year I have been unsuccessful at getting an installation to > Allstar Asterisk to function. I even tried the, excuse me, Ham VOIP version > and did not have any luck with that either. I have tried the X86 version > and the Raspberry version. Yes I installed the X86 version on an old Dell > laptop. The Pi version was on a Pi 3, with a 16GB card. > > > > Is there or can someone create a step by step guide for installation? Do > not say all you have to do is follow the setup script. That did not work > for me. > > The material on the website is very confusing to me. > > > > I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK URI. The radio > I am using is a Motorola CDM1500 LS. > > 73 > > Tom AD2TM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > > > Garanti > sans virus. www.avast.com > > <#m_8083842740058565644_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kuggie at kuggie.com Mon Dec 24 04:24:04 2018 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 23:24:04 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CM119 USB interface In-Reply-To: References: <236a1cb1-e02c-2b4b-fa12-d94aab86cfc9@kuggie.com> Message-ID: <050ef06c-587a-dae4-7ec6-c204fc28060c@kuggie.com> Brian, Signal Strength is determined by the noise level of the inputted audio from the receiver.? Normally, with audio from a good discriminator source, calibrated by the radio tune rxnoise command, you'll have a signal strength of around 500 to 600 with NO signal.? This is shown by inputting the command "radio tune rxsquelch".? This number goes up as the noise level is reduced (from an increasing signal level making the FM receiver quiet). A level of 999 with the adapter unplugged from the receiver is the expected result.? The adapter/application doesn't know if the receiver has reached full quieting or if the audio has simply disappeared from the adapter.? The result is the same no matter which happened. In the case, no signal input results in an audio signal that's full of broadband noise.? It's a loud white noise.? When the receiver quiets, the amount of white noise is reduced, to a point of "full quieting" where the receiver is not outputting much or any noise.? This is why a strong signal into the receiver shows as 999 and no signal results in something between 0 and 500 or so. Again, this all points to muted audio from the receiver, and that by definition is NOT discriminator audio.? Real discriminator audio is not muted, or filtered in any way.? Please have a look at the discriminator audio from your receiver and make sure noise is there when the receiver is not hearing a valid signal. Kevin On 12/23/2018 9:58 PM, Brian G wrote: > Hi Kevin, thanks very much... I understand 999 is supposed to > represent a strong fully quiet signal. That's the issue, there isn't > one...but app_rpt thinks there's a signal present and is sending it > 100% of the time, unless I use CTCSS decode (or plain vox), which I > don't want to do for this node. > > I'm using the discriminator output from a Motorola Radius M120, but > the same issue occurs on other rigs, and the "signal level" is still > at 999 regardless of if there's a radio connected to the dongle or not > :( If there's no input, signal level should be at (or close to) zero, > shouldn't it? > > > > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 9:29 PM Kevin Custer > wrote: > > Brian, > > If the application reports 999, my guess is you aren't inputting > raw discriminator audio into the interface. If the audio you are > inputting into your radio interface has been Low Pass Filtered or > is squelch gated, you cannot use DSP for noise squelch detection. > ? The application will tell you if there is sufficient squelch > noise to utilize DSP noise squelch detection after you do the > "radio tune rxnoise" command. If it fails, the audio type, amount, > or quality isn't sufficient for DSP noise detection. > > When fed with good discriminator audio, the noise squelch > detection in app_rpt is nearly as good as a Motorola M6709 > (analog) squelch chip, commonly thought to be the high water mark > in noise squelch detection. 999 is the total absence of noise, and > is the result one would expect with a full quieting signal, or an > inappropriately muted RX audio line. > > Kevin W3KKC > > > > On 12/23/2018 7:28 PM, Brian G wrote: >> Hi all, Merry Christmas >> >> My local club is working on setting up a few ASL nodes, and I've >> been busy modifying some CM119 based USB sound cards to control >> the radios. I'm using this card/dongle: >> https://www.amazon.ca/Syba-SD-CM-UAUD-Adapter-C-Media-Chipset/dp/B001MSS6CS >> >> I've done several so far and have a few nodes working great with >> CTCSS carrier detect. One issue I'm consistently running into, is >> when setting the "RX Squelch Level" in the radio-tune-menu, it >> detects the current RX signal strength as 999. This results in >> the inability to use anything other than CTCSS for carrier >> detect. I can make plain old VOX work too, but it results in >> considerable (2 sec+) hang time. >> >> Using DSP carrier detect won't work because it's impossible to >> set the squelch high enough (max value 999). It always thinks >> there's a signal present when there isn't. This happens >> regardless of whether there's a radio connected to the dongle or >> not. As a matter of fact it happens even when plugging in an >> unmodified dongle right out of the package. I need it to work >> with no CTCSS. VOX would be fine if it wasn't for the hang time, >> but would rather use the DSP option in usbradio.conf. >> >> I assume it's just the nature of the beast, and if I want it done >> properly I need an adapter and radio capable of COS. But maybe >> someone knows if there's something that can be done or not?? >> Anyone have any insight on how to either eliminate the VOX hang >> time, or eliminate that "invisible" signal? I might be >> overlooking something. Thanks for reading! >> -- >> Brian - VA3DXV > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gravesb at gmail.com Mon Dec 24 05:21:16 2018 From: gravesb at gmail.com (Brian G) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:21:16 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CM119 USB interface In-Reply-To: <050ef06c-587a-dae4-7ec6-c204fc28060c@kuggie.com> References: <236a1cb1-e02c-2b4b-fa12-d94aab86cfc9@kuggie.com> <050ef06c-587a-dae4-7ec6-c204fc28060c@kuggie.com> Message-ID: Ok, I'm thick sometimes :) I get what you're saying now, makes sense. Thank you for the clarification. The Motorola is working as you described, the other rigs not so much. So the gist of it is, there's no way to use DSP carrier detect without using discriminator audio? It's CTCSS or VOX only in that case? On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:24 PM Kevin Custer wrote: > Brian, > > Signal Strength is determined by the noise level of the inputted audio > from the receiver. Normally, with audio from a good discriminator source, > calibrated by the radio tune rxnoise command, you'll have a signal strength > of around 500 to 600 with NO signal. This is shown by inputting the > command "radio tune rxsquelch". This number goes up as the noise level is > reduced (from an increasing signal level making the FM receiver quiet). > > A level of 999 with the adapter unplugged from the receiver is the > expected result. The adapter/application doesn't know if the receiver has > reached full quieting or if the audio has simply disappeared from the > adapter. The result is the same no matter which happened. > > In the case, no signal input results in an audio signal that's full of > broadband noise. It's a loud white noise. When the receiver quiets, the > amount of white noise is reduced, to a point of "full quieting" where the > receiver is not outputting much or any noise. This is why a strong signal > into the receiver shows as 999 and no signal results in something between 0 > and 500 or so. > > Again, this all points to muted audio from the receiver, and that by > definition is NOT discriminator audio. Real discriminator audio is not > muted, or filtered in any way. Please have a look at the discriminator > audio from your receiver and make sure noise is there when the receiver is > not hearing a valid signal. > > Kevin > > > > > On 12/23/2018 9:58 PM, Brian G wrote: > > Hi Kevin, thanks very much... I understand 999 is supposed to represent a > strong fully quiet signal. That's the issue, there isn't one...but app_rpt > thinks there's a signal present and is sending it 100% of the time, unless > I use CTCSS decode (or plain vox), which I don't want to do for this node. > > I'm using the discriminator output from a Motorola Radius M120, but the > same issue occurs on other rigs, and the "signal level" is still at 999 > regardless of if there's a radio connected to the dongle or not :( If > there's no input, signal level should be at (or close to) zero, shouldn't > it? > > > > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 9:29 PM Kevin Custer wrote: > >> Brian, >> >> If the application reports 999, my guess is you aren't inputting raw >> discriminator audio into the interface. If the audio you are inputting >> into your radio interface has been Low Pass Filtered or is squelch gated, >> you cannot use DSP for noise squelch detection. The application will tell >> you if there is sufficient squelch noise to utilize DSP noise squelch >> detection after you do the "radio tune rxnoise" command. If it fails, the >> audio type, amount, or quality isn't sufficient for DSP noise detection. >> >> When fed with good discriminator audio, the noise squelch detection in >> app_rpt is nearly as good as a Motorola M6709 (analog) squelch chip, >> commonly thought to be the high water mark in noise squelch detection. 999 >> is the total absence of noise, and is the result one would expect with a >> full quieting signal, or an inappropriately muted RX audio line. >> >> Kevin W3KKC >> >> >> >> On 12/23/2018 7:28 PM, Brian G wrote: >> >> Hi all, Merry Christmas >> >> My local club is working on setting up a few ASL nodes, and I've been >> busy modifying some CM119 based USB sound cards to control the radios. I'm >> using this card/dongle: >> https://www.amazon.ca/Syba-SD-CM-UAUD-Adapter-C-Media-Chipset/dp/B001MSS6CS >> >> I've done several so far and have a few nodes working great with CTCSS >> carrier detect. One issue I'm consistently running into, is when setting >> the "RX Squelch Level" in the radio-tune-menu, it detects the current RX >> signal strength as 999. This results in the inability to use anything other >> than CTCSS for carrier detect. I can make plain old VOX work too, but it >> results in considerable (2 sec+) hang time. >> >> Using DSP carrier detect won't work because it's impossible to set the >> squelch high enough (max value 999). It always thinks there's a signal >> present when there isn't. This happens regardless of whether there's a >> radio connected to the dongle or not. As a matter of fact it happens even >> when plugging in an unmodified dongle right out of the package. I need it >> to work with no CTCSS. VOX would be fine if it wasn't for the hang time, >> but would rather use the DSP option in usbradio.conf. >> >> I assume it's just the nature of the beast, and if I want it done >> properly I need an adapter and radio capable of COS. But maybe someone >> knows if there's something that can be done or not? Anyone have any >> insight on how to either eliminate the VOX hang time, or eliminate that >> "invisible" signal? I might be overlooking something. Thanks for reading! >> -- >> Brian - VA3DXV >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Dec 24 18:47:59 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 13:47:59 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user In-Reply-To: References: <001501d49b2e$651c2050$2f5460f0$@com> Message-ID: <3e4bc23b-ec1d-c731-53c0-0bd5a615a04b@midnighteng.com> Let me say this, and please know that I am not picking at anyone. No disrespect intended. Running a Open Source Asterisk Server, before you make radios as phone extensions, requires skill and knowledge of Linux operating system, And the Open source Asterisk Telephony System, Some, not all know something of programming and or shell scripts. Some, not all taking this to task also have no electronics knowledge, Some, not all know something of radio repeater systems. Function and terminology. So, if anyone thinks, when they can't check at least half of those boxes above, that this is just going to be easy when you may not know of the terminology alone to ask the right questions... think again. Many volunteers put this together. I too can complain about the lack of GREAT documentation but know that it is all work in progress and someone has to take their free time to bring that to you. I have taken time to contribute to the wiki but find it very messy from the structure of it to find anything, let alone add to it. To fill-in the gaps, we have this email posting board to help each other. And admins and authors read and reply also. If you are not going to use it to get help and understanding when you first run into a problem, it then becomes your fault that you don't or can't understand your issues. Personally, I don't have all the answers but nobody has the answers to questions that are not asked. But ask your question. Include the version of software you are working with, Include the hardware you are applying it to since a Pi is much different than a PC. And a HF remote base is quite different than a repeater. AND/OR include the method of COR/PTT usb radio type interface etc. The better you include this info and any 'outside the norm things' you are doing, the more and better the answers you are likely to receive. I don't like spending the next 6 emails just to find those things to give you a accurate answer and likely, I will not reply. (I may not be alone) I often give bad answers because it was not clear to me what you have or what you are doing with your issue. Anyway, know that I feel your pain and frustration, that's why I spend time paying attention to the mail board and I have better things that can be done also. The only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Everyone here knows it is not always so easy. That's why we are here. Also know I have always said, "if it works out of the box, you learn nothing". How do you grow/create your own with that ? You might as well pay someone to fix it for you when it's broke or want to create something out of the ordinary. All that said, it has been my personal recommendation for many years that if you are a total newb to all of this, to create your server and one node that works with dahdi-pseudo channel driver and get network connectivity and understand the command structures before you proceed to add radio/external ports. Take that for what it is worth in your circumstance. Most folks make it harder on themselves to take this all in, by trying to do it all at once. And when there is a issue in the end, it becomes hard for anyone to figure out at what level the issue is. My hope is that many of you get in depth with how all this works and provide the next level of 'cool stuff' going forward. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/23/2018 10:04 PM, Pierre Martel wrote: > I wonder why I was able to make allstarlink work out right of the box. > > Must be cause I was reading the docs and almost all of the post in the > mailling list. > I did ask a few question. But those were very specific if my memory is > right... > > > > Le dim. 23 d?c. 2018 ? 21:14, Serge B?rub? > a ?crit?: > > I had the very same? results, after 11 tryes , I get results? well > I had to discover( guess) ?many things and learn the? linux slang? > > May I help you ?? PM me at ve2abc at ve2abc dot com? > > Best Regards, Serge > > *De?:*App_rpt-users > [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org > ] *De la part > de* Mike > *Envoy??:* 23 d?cembre 2018 10:08 > *??:* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > *Objet?:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user > > You might start with a specific question and if you wish to > provide a statement, > > make it the version of software you are questioning and the > hardware you are applying it to. > > You might include what you have accomplished and working so we > know where you are. > > That's the best way I know to get help. Ask the group but don't > leave them in the blind to 'make guesses' to what you have or want. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/23/2018 8:30 AM, AD2TM wrote: > > Over the past year I have been unsuccessful at getting an > installation to Allstar Asterisk to function. I even tried > the, excuse me, Ham VOIP version and did not have any luck > with that either. I have tried the X86 version and the > Raspberry version. Yes I installed the X86 version on an old > Dell laptop. The Pi version was on a Pi 3, with a 16GB card. > > Is there or can someone create a step by step guide for > installation? Do not say all you have to do is follow the > setup script. That did not work for me. > > The material on the website is very confusing to me. > > I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK > URI. The radio I am using is a Motorola CDM1500 LS. > > 73 > > Tom AD2TM > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From mwbesemer at cox.net Mon Dec 24 19:41:40 2018 From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:41:40 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user In-Reply-To: <3e4bc23b-ec1d-c731-53c0-0bd5a615a04b@midnighteng.com> References: <001501d49b2e$651c2050$2f5460f0$@com> <3e4bc23b-ec1d-c731-53c0-0bd5a615a04b@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <000f01d49bc0$b380dd20$1a829760$@cox.net> No disrespect intended here either, but this is something that has bothered me since I first put my toe into the ASL realm. I spent several years writing Technical Orders for the U.S. Air Force. It was mind-numbing work at times and I was responsible not only to write the documentation, but to verify every single step. I was extremely experienced with the processes I was documenting and that was a great blessing ? but it was also a curse. It was very difficult to verify ? line by line ? process which I not only knew from rote, but which I developed myself from scratch. We went through many iterations of changes and had individuals from all experience levels verify the tasks before we signed off on them. Needless to say, the process took a lot of time and effort. That being said, one the tasks were documented, the quality of our maintenance skyrocketed and the necessity for maintenance personnel to have to rely on the development team for guidance dropped like a stone. This is a philosophy I still carry with me today. I work in a one-deep position and am responsible for servicing over 1500 personnel, with my primary customers being full colonels and Lt Colonels. I don?t have time to take care of all of them personally and the Colonels usually don't have time to wait for me to help them. It keep afloat, I've fully documented all of my processes and published them to a SharePoint which all my customers have access to. Each process is tested and revised as needed to make sure each of them is 'Colonel-proof. It has taken me years to fully document and test everything, but I've been given raving reviews of my work and the number of urgent phone calls and emails has dropped into the noise, allowing me to concentrate on day-to-day work. ASL needs to do the same. The documentation that is available is scattered, often does not provide step by step directions, and is sometimes outdated. Yes, it would take a lot of time to update and test all the processes, but once that was done the developers would have time to concentrate on revisions and enhancements. It's just a matter of philosophies changing. Anyway, that's my 2-cents worth. Merry Christmas, Mike WM4B From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 1:48 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user Let me say this, and please know that I am not picking at anyone. No disrespect intended. Running a Open Source Asterisk Server, before you make radios as phone extensions, requires skill and knowledge of Linux operating system, And the Open source Asterisk Telephony System, Some, not all know something of programming and or shell scripts. Some, not all taking this to task also have no electronics knowledge, Some, not all know something of radio repeater systems. Function and terminology. So, if anyone thinks, when they can't check at least half of those boxes above, that this is just going to be easy when you may not know of the terminology alone to ask the right questions... think again. Many volunteers put this together. I too can complain about the lack of GREAT documentation but know that it is all work in progress and someone has to take their free time to bring that to you. I have taken time to contribute to the wiki but find it very messy from the structure of it to find anything, let alone add to it. To fill-in the gaps, we have this email posting board to help each other. And admins and authors read and reply also. If you are not going to use it to get help and understanding when you first run into a problem, it then becomes your fault that you don't or can't understand your issues. Personally, I don't have all the answers but nobody has the answers to questions that are not asked. But ask your question. Include the version of software you are working with, Include the hardware you are applying it to since a Pi is much different than a PC. And a HF remote base is quite different than a repeater. AND/OR include the method of COR/PTT usb radio type interface etc. The better you include this info and any 'outside the norm things' you are doing, the more and better the answers you are likely to receive. I don't like spending the next 6 emails just to find those things to give you a accurate answer and likely, I will not reply. (I may not be alone) I often give bad answers because it was not clear to me what you have or what you are doing with your issue. Anyway, know that I feel your pain and frustration, that's why I spend time paying attention to the mail board and I have better things that can be done also. The only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Everyone here knows it is not always so easy. That's why we are here. Also know I have always said, "if it works out of the box, you learn nothing". How do you grow/create your own with that ? You might as well pay someone to fix it for you when it's broke or want to create something out of the ordinary. All that said, it has been my personal recommendation for many years that if you are a total newb to all of this, to create your server and one node that works with dahdi-pseudo channel driver and get network connectivity and understand the command structures before you proceed to add radio/external ports. Take that for what it is worth in your circumstance. Most folks make it harder on themselves to take this all in, by trying to do it all at once. And when there is a issue in the end, it becomes hard for anyone to figure out at what level the issue is. My hope is that many of you get in depth with how all this works and provide the next level of 'cool stuff' going forward. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/23/2018 10:04 PM, Pierre Martel wrote: I wonder why I was able to make allstarlink work out right of the box. Must be cause I was reading the docs and almost all of the post in the mailling list. I did ask a few question. But those were very specific if my memory is right... Le dim. 23 d?c. 2018 ? 21:14, Serge B?rub? a ?crit : I had the very same results, after 11 tryes , I get results? well I had to discover( guess) many things and learn the linux slang? May I help you ? PM me at ve2abc at ve2abc dot com? Best Regards, Serge De : App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] De la part de Mike Envoy? : 23 d?cembre 2018 10:08 ? : app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Objet : Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user You might start with a specific question and if you wish to provide a statement, make it the version of software you are questioning and the hardware you are applying it to. You might include what you have accomplished and working so we know where you are. That's the best way I know to get help. Ask the group but don't leave them in the blind to 'make guesses' to what you have or want. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/23/2018 8:30 AM, AD2TM wrote: Over the past year I have been unsuccessful at getting an installation to Allstar Asterisk to function. I even tried the, excuse me, Ham VOIP version and did not have any luck with that either. I have tried the X86 version and the Raspberry version. Yes I installed the X86 version on an old Dell laptop. The Pi version was on a Pi 3, with a 16GB card. Is there or can someone create a step by step guide for installation? Do not say all you have to do is follow the setup script. That did not work for me. The material on the website is very confusing to me. I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK URI. The radio I am using is a Motorola CDM1500 LS. 73 Tom AD2TM _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From kuggie at kuggie.com Mon Dec 24 19:56:54 2018 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:56:54 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] CM119 USB interface In-Reply-To: References: <236a1cb1-e02c-2b4b-fa12-d94aab86cfc9@kuggie.com> <050ef06c-587a-dae4-7ec6-c204fc28060c@kuggie.com> Message-ID: <57404db4-3415-0fe0-5a30-ef4465cbafa1@kuggie.com> On 12/24/2018 12:21 AM, Brian G wrote: > Ok, I'm thick sometimes :) I get what you're saying now, makes sense. > Thank you for the clarification. The Motorola is working as you > described, the other rigs not so much. > > So the gist of it is, there's no way to use DSP carrier detect without > using discriminator audio? It's CTCSS or VOX only in that case? Correct - BUT, discriminator audio should be available from that M120 radio. You just have to hook it up and possibly program it correctly. Kevin From cummingsj at gmail.com Mon Dec 24 20:55:57 2018 From: cummingsj at gmail.com (JJC) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 13:55:57 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user In-Reply-To: <000f01d49bc0$b380dd20$1a829760$@cox.net> References: <001501d49b2e$651c2050$2f5460f0$@com> <3e4bc23b-ec1d-c731-53c0-0bd5a615a04b@midnighteng.com> <000f01d49bc0$b380dd20$1a829760$@cox.net> Message-ID: <8E7F1AE9-B5BE-47B9-94AF-B8F6DC15CB3A@gmail.com> This is an open source project, anyone that thinks that there should be better or more documentation isn?t wrong. This said, since it?s open source anyone can contribute and is welcomed to do so! Sent from the iRoad > On Dec 24, 2018, at 12:41, Mike Besemer wrote: > > No disrespect intended here either, but this is something that has bothered me since I first put my toe into the ASL realm. > > I spent several years writing Technical Orders for the U.S. Air Force. It was mind-numbing work at times and I was responsible not only to write the documentation, but to verify every single step. I was extremely experienced with the processes I was documenting and that was a great blessing ? but it was also a curse. It was very difficult to verify ? line by line ? process which I not only knew from rote, but which I developed myself from scratch. We went through many iterations of changes and had individuals from all experience levels verify the tasks before we signed off on them. Needless to say, the process took a lot of time and effort. > > That being said, one the tasks were documented, the quality of our maintenance skyrocketed and the necessity for maintenance personnel to have to rely on the development team for guidance dropped like a stone. > > This is a philosophy I still carry with me today. I work in a one-deep position and am responsible for servicing over 1500 personnel, with my primary customers being full colonels and Lt Colonels. I don?t have time to take care of all of them personally and the Colonels usually don't have time to wait for me to help them. It keep afloat, I've fully documented all of my processes and published them to a SharePoint which all my customers have access to. Each process is tested and revised as needed to make sure each of them is 'Colonel-proof. It has taken me years to fully document and test everything, but I've been given raving reviews of my work and the number of urgent phone calls and emails has dropped into the noise, allowing me to concentrate on day-to-day work. > > ASL needs to do the same. The documentation that is available is scattered, often does not provide step by step directions, and is sometimes outdated. Yes, it would take a lot of time to update and test all the processes, but once that was done the developers would have time to concentrate on revisions and enhancements. It's just a matter of philosophies changing. > > Anyway, that's my 2-cents worth. > > Merry Christmas, > > Mike > WM4B > > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 1:48 PM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user > > Let me say this, and please know that I am not picking at anyone. No disrespect intended. > Running a Open Source Asterisk Server, before you make radios as phone extensions, > requires skill and knowledge of Linux operating system, > And the Open source Asterisk Telephony System, > Some, not all know something of programming and or shell scripts. > Some, not all taking this to task also have no electronics knowledge, > Some, not all know something of radio repeater systems. Function and terminology. > > So, if anyone thinks, when they can't check at least half of those boxes above, that this is just going to be easy when you may not know of the terminology alone to ask the right questions... think again. > Many volunteers put this together. I too can complain about the lack of GREAT documentation but know that it is all work in progress and someone has to take their free time to bring that to you. I have taken time to contribute to the wiki but find it very messy from the structure of it to find anything, let alone add to it. > To fill-in the gaps, we have this email posting board to help each other. And admins and authors read and reply also. > If you are not going to use it to get help and understanding when you first run into a problem, it then becomes your fault that you don't or can't understand your issues. > Personally, I don't have all the answers but nobody has the answers to questions that are not asked. > But ask your question. > Include the version of software you are working with, > Include the hardware you are applying it to since a Pi is much different than a PC. And a HF remote base is quite different than a repeater. > AND/OR include the method of COR/PTT usb radio type interface etc. > The better you include this info and any 'outside the norm things' you are doing, > the more and better the answers you are likely to receive. I don't like spending the next 6 emails just to find those things to give you a accurate answer and likely, I will not reply. (I may not be alone) > I often give bad answers because it was not clear to me what you have or what you are doing with your issue. > Anyway, know that I feel your pain and frustration, that's why I spend time paying attention to the mail board and I have better things that can be done also. > The only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Everyone here knows it is not always so easy. That's why we are here. > Also know I have always said, "if it works out of the box, you learn nothing". How do you grow/create your own with that ? You might as well pay someone to fix it for you when it's broke or want to create something out of the ordinary. > All that said, it has been my personal recommendation for many years that if you are a total newb to all of this, to create your server and one node that works with dahdi-pseudo channel driver and get network connectivity and understand the command structures before you proceed to add radio/external ports. Take that for what it is worth in your circumstance. Most folks make it harder on themselves to take this all in, by trying to do it all at once. And when there is a issue in the end, it becomes hard for anyone to figure out at what level the issue is. > > My hope is that many of you get in depth with how all this works and provide the next level of 'cool stuff' going forward. > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/23/2018 10:04 PM, Pierre Martel wrote: > I wonder why I was able to make allstarlink work out right of the box. > > Must be cause I was reading the docs and almost all of the post in the mailling list. > I did ask a few question. But those were very specific if my memory is right... > > > > Le dim. 23 d?c. 2018 ? 21:14, Serge B?rub? a ?crit : > I had the very same results, after 11 tryes , I get results? well I had to discover( guess) many things and learn the linux slang? > May I help you ? PM me at ve2abc at ve2abc dot com? > Best Regards, Serge > > > De : App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] De la part de Mike > Envoy? : 23 d?cembre 2018 10:08 > ? : app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Objet : Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user > > You might start with a specific question and if you wish to provide a statement, > make it the version of software you are questioning and the hardware you are applying it to. > You might include what you have accomplished and working so we know where you are. > That's the best way I know to get help. Ask the group but don't leave them in the blind to 'make guesses' to what you have or want. > ...mike/kb8jnm > On 12/23/2018 8:30 AM, AD2TM wrote: > Over the past year I have been unsuccessful at getting an installation to Allstar Asterisk to function. I even tried the, excuse me, Ham VOIP version and did not have any luck with that either. I have tried the X86 version and the Raspberry version. Yes I installed the X86 version on an old Dell laptop. The Pi version was on a Pi 3, with a 16GB card. > > Is there or can someone create a step by step guide for installation? Do not say all you have to do is follow the setup script. That did not work for me. > The material on the website is very confusing to me. > > I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK URI. The radio I am using is a Motorola CDM1500 LS. > 73 > Tom AD2TM > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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From petem001 at gmail.com Mon Dec 24 21:17:34 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 16:17:34 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user In-Reply-To: <3e4bc23b-ec1d-c731-53c0-0bd5a615a04b@midnighteng.com> References: <001501d49b2e$651c2050$2f5460f0$@com> <3e4bc23b-ec1d-c731-53c0-0bd5a615a04b@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: Mike, It worked out of the box for me cause I was prepared to do it. No disrespect either.. It is just plain human nature. In all venture I do I always search, read, read, read, learn, learn, learn, apply, apply, apply. And if it fail start back at reading and searching. Most people go from, where is the image? to: It wont work! Help! They then retry the exact same steps without trying to understand where it fail. If you do something and it fail, it will not work if you repeat the same action again and again and expecting a different outcome. Then frustration comes in and the f*** with that s*** it is a badly desing software, it does not work and will never do.... blah,blah,bla... But almost all the people on this list know that it works and very well I must say. Thanks to the hard work done by the original team and up to today's team. And for that I can't be more grateful to them. Going into a venture like building a repeater or a hotspot is not for the common mortal being.. In fact another ham that I know that own a few repeater asked me to help him with transfert his ICS linker 2A to allstarlink. He could not even undertand the principle of usb sound card. There had to have some magic programing in the URI. No where was it possible that a software in Linux could do the real control.. And we are not talking about someone dumb. He just got pass 55. But he stopped learning when he found out that what he knows is ok for him to acheive what he needed to do 15 years ago. And again just human nature.. I've been teaching to adults since 1997. first in my feild of expertise, security system and electricity. Now ham radio and other stuff.. Not every one want to learn or are use to learn later in life.. They want to have stuff working and thats it. Just like or father and mother had no interest in connecting and could not program there VCR. Some could be offended by what I just said. Yes they can be.. this does not make them right to be for the simple reason that if someone else been able to make this software works, there are no reason that they could not do it with some effort. Like I love to say. If a human did it, another one can do the same. Just need to learn how to. I am no better then the average joe. My only good thing is a moderatly good memory and a bad case of acheiving what I want to do,no mather what. To the original poster, Yes the software is working and have a zillion options possibility. No it is not the simplest software to tackle along. Yes the raspberry pi image is simple to install. But you need to know what hardware you have and how it is working. there is no standard way of connecting your repeater to the controler. No magic receipe that will work all the time.. You also need to come up with a desciption of your setup for us to be able to help you. Radio type? Did you do the programing if it does have a programing? Did you review it? What signal is available? Did you tested the signal to really be what you think it is? Have you rechecked? Never assume anything.. that's the best way to fail. Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le lun. 24 d?c. 2018 ? 13:48, Mike a ?crit : > Let me say this, and please know that I am not picking at anyone. No > disrespect intended. > > Running a Open Source Asterisk Server, before you make radios as phone > extensions, > > requires skill and knowledge of Linux operating system, > > And the Open source Asterisk Telephony System, > > Some, not all know something of programming and or shell scripts. > > Some, not all taking this to task also have no electronics knowledge, > > Some, not all know something of radio repeater systems. Function and > terminology. > > > So, if anyone thinks, when they can't check at least half of those boxes > above, that this is just going to be easy when you may not know of the > terminology alone to ask the right questions... think again. > > Many volunteers put this together. I too can complain about the lack of > GREAT documentation but know that it is all work in progress and someone > has to take their free time to bring that to you. I have taken time to > contribute to the wiki but find it very messy from the structure of it to > find anything, let alone add to it. > > To fill-in the gaps, we have this email posting board to help each other. > And admins and authors read and reply also. > > If you are not going to use it to get help and understanding when you > first run into a problem, it then becomes your fault that you don't or > can't understand your issues. > > Personally, I don't have all the answers but nobody has the answers to > questions that are not asked. > > But ask your question. > > Include the version of software you are working with, > > Include the hardware you are applying it to since a Pi is much different > than a PC. And a HF remote base is quite different than a repeater. > > AND/OR include the method of COR/PTT usb radio type interface etc. > > The better you include this info and any 'outside the norm things' you are > doing, > > the more and better the answers you are likely to receive. I don't like > spending the next 6 emails just to find those things to give you a accurate > answer and likely, I will not reply. (I may not be alone) > > I often give bad answers because it was not clear to me what you have or > what you are doing with your issue. > > Anyway, know that I feel your pain and frustration, that's why I spend > time paying attention to the mail board and I have better things that can > be done also. > > The only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Everyone here knows it > is not always so easy. That's why we are here. > > Also know I have always said, "if it works out of the box, you learn > nothing". How do you grow/create your own with that ? You might as well pay > someone to fix it for you when it's broke or want to create something out > of the ordinary. > > All that said, it has been my personal recommendation for many years that > if you are a total newb to all of this, to create your server and one node > that works with dahdi-pseudo channel driver and get network connectivity > and understand the command structures before you proceed to add > radio/external ports. Take that for what it is worth in your circumstance. > Most folks make it harder on themselves to take this all in, by trying to > do it all at once. And when there is a issue in the end, it becomes hard > for anyone to figure out at what level the issue is. > > > My hope is that many of you get in depth with how all this works and > provide the next level of 'cool stuff' going forward. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > > On 12/23/2018 10:04 PM, Pierre Martel wrote: > > I wonder why I was able to make allstarlink work out right of the box. > > Must be cause I was reading the docs and almost all of the post in the > mailling list. > I did ask a few question. But those were very specific if my memory is > right... > > > > Le dim. 23 d?c. 2018 ? 21:14, Serge B?rub? a ?crit : > >> I had the very same results, after 11 tryes , I get results? well I had >> to discover( guess) many things and learn the linux slang? >> >> May I help you ? PM me at ve2abc at ve2abc dot com? >> >> Best Regards, Serge >> >> >> >> >> >> *De :* App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] >> *De la part de* Mike >> *Envoy? :* 23 d?cembre 2018 10:08 >> *? :* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> *Objet :* Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user >> >> >> >> You might start with a specific question and if you wish to provide a >> statement, >> >> make it the version of software you are questioning and the hardware you >> are applying it to. >> >> You might include what you have accomplished and working so we know where >> you are. >> >> That's the best way I know to get help. Ask the group but don't leave >> them in the blind to 'make guesses' to what you have or want. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 12/23/2018 8:30 AM, AD2TM wrote: >> >> Over the past year I have been unsuccessful at getting an installation to >> Allstar Asterisk to function. I even tried the, excuse me, Ham VOIP version >> and did not have any luck with that either. I have tried the X86 version >> and the Raspberry version. Yes I installed the X86 version on an old Dell >> laptop. The Pi version was on a Pi 3, with a 16GB card. >> >> >> >> Is there or can someone create a step by step guide for installation? Do >> not say all you have to do is follow the setup script. That did not work >> for me. >> >> The material on the website is very confusing to me. >> >> >> >> I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK URI. The radio >> I am using is a Motorola CDM1500 LS. >> >> 73 >> >> Tom AD2TM >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> >> >> Garanti >> sans virus. www.avast.com >> >> <#m_219075539307622287_m_8083842740058565644_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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[Dec 24 22:51:06] WARNING[11222]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' [Dec 24 22:51:06] WARNING[11224]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest [Dec 24 22:51:57] WARNING[11218]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' [Dec 24 22:51:57] WARNING[11220]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest [Dec 24 22:52:47] WARNING[11224]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' [Dec 24 22:52:47] WARNING[11216]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest [Dec 24 22:53:38] WARNING[11220]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' [Dec 24 22:53:38] WARNING[11222]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest == Refreshing DNS lookups. [Dec 24 22:54:28] WARNING[11216]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' [Dec 24 22:54:29] WARNING[11218]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/gps.conf': Found [Dec 24 22:55:19] WARNING[11222]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' [Dec 24 22:55:19] WARNING[11224]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest [Dec 24 22:56:09] WARNING[11218]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' [Dec 24 22:56:10] WARNING[11220]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest repeater*CLI> 73 and Merry Christmas, Marco IW0RED. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From Bryan at bryanfields.net Mon Dec 24 22:11:52 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:11:52 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Warning messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12/24/18 4:58 PM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > Hi everyone, I noted this very frequent repetition of warning > messages. Is this normal? If not, what should I be looking at to fix > the problem. Thanks. > > [Dec 24 22:51:06] WARNING[11222]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: > REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' > [Dec 24 22:51:06] WARNING[11224]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: > REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest You have the verbosity of the log turned up to 4 or greater. That's debug level and this only means it's re-registering again. By default IAX will register about ever 60 seconds to the registration servers. Here's the line in the source. > https://github.com/AllStarLink/Asterisk/blob/99bf31e59ba1127ed422ed9345d84d912ad80301/asterisk/channels/chan_iax2.c#L7690 It's safe to ignore it and/or turn the debug level down. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From marco.brunozzi at gmail.com Mon Dec 24 22:40:32 2018 From: marco.brunozzi at gmail.com (Marco Brunozzi) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 23:40:32 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Warning messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bryan, that's true I have the verbosity turned up to 6. Thanks a lot, Marco. On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 11:12 PM Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 12/24/18 4:58 PM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > > Hi everyone, I noted this very frequent repetition of warning > > messages. Is this normal? If not, what should I be looking at to fix > > the problem. Thanks. > > > > [Dec 24 22:51:06] WARNING[11222]: chan_iax2.c:10127 iax2_do_register: > > REGISTER-LOG: Sending registration request for '28163' > > [Dec 24 22:51:06] WARNING[11224]: chan_iax2.c:7690 registry_rerequest: > > REGISTER-LOG: registry rereqquest > > You have the verbosity of the log turned up to 4 or greater. That's debug > level and this only means it's re-registering again. By default IAX will > register about ever 60 seconds to the registration servers. > > Here's the line in the source. > > https://github.com/AllStarLink/Asterisk/blob/99bf31e59ba1127ed422ed9345d84d912ad80301/asterisk/channels/chan_iax2.c#L7690 > > > It's safe to ignore it and/or turn the debug level down. > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From ve4drk at gmail.com Tue Dec 25 17:27:06 2018 From: ve4drk at gmail.com (Dan Keizer) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 11:27:06 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi guys - just an update -- my android phone (pixel 2) updated the app yesterday and the new dvswitch is now generally available. Nice Christmas present! 73, Dan ve4drk On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 12:00 PM Dan Keizer wrote: > HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming updates > to the iaxRPT program. > I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and it > works well for accessing your node remotely. > I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used it > occasionally with windows. > > Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version. The > dvswitch-mobile version (with lots of new features :-) ) will be public > released in a couple of days ... looking forward to the new features. > > 73, Dan ve4drk > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin.babich at gmail.com Tue Dec 25 20:28:48 2018 From: kevin.babich at gmail.com (Kevin Babich) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 14:28:48 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] iaxRPT updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does an iOS analogue of this exist? Kevin J. Babich 219.406.9707 Mobile ***Mobile EMail*** Please excuse any typos and brevity. > On Dec 25, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Dan Keizer wrote: > > Hi guys - just an update -- my android phone (pixel 2) updated the app yesterday and the new dvswitch is now generally available. > > Nice Christmas present! > > 73, Dan ve4drk > >> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 12:00 PM Dan Keizer wrote: >> HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming updates to the iaxRPT program. >> I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and it works well for accessing your node remotely. >> I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used it occasionally with windows. >> >> Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version. The dvswitch-mobile version (with lots of new features :-) ) will be public released in a couple of days ... looking forward to the new features. >> >> 73, Dan ve4drk >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Babich > > 219.406.9707 Mobile > > ***Mobile EMail*** > > Please excuse any typos and brevity. > >> On Dec 25, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Dan Keizer wrote: >> >> Hi guys - just an update -- my android phone (pixel 2) updated the app yesterday and the new dvswitch is now generally available. >> >> Nice Christmas present! >> >> 73, Dan ve4drk >> >>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 12:00 PM Dan Keizer wrote: >>> HI there - I noticed there's been some discussion on some upcoming updates to the iaxRPT program. >>> I've used this with the hamvoip distribution and dvswitch distros and it works well for accessing your node remotely. >>> I mostly use iaxrpt on my android system while mobile, but I've used it occasionally with windows. >>> >>> Anyways -- there has been an upgrade to the android public version. 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URL: From russell at kv4s.com Wed Dec 26 05:05:03 2018 From: russell at kv4s.com (Russell Thomas) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 23:05:03 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <2946748b-93b4-e47b-f293-a82b597a1c3f@slingshot.co.nz> References: <2946748b-93b4-e47b-f293-a82b597a1c3f@slingshot.co.nz> Message-ID: Hey Rodger, Unfortunately, I don't have a document for building a Allstar with a radio. The first article on my website covers a Allstar to DMR bridge and setting up a radioless Allstar hub. However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes also come with the HamVoip software. He may can give you some tips since you have most all the pieces. Otherwise, I would point you to the Allstar email list. I like the HamVoip software but you can run ASL as well on a Raspberry Pi. here are the emails for both groups: HamVoip: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org Web: https://hamvoip.org ASL: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Web: https://allstarlink.org Hope that helps let me know if you have any questions. 73, Russell Thomas, KV4S Cell: 205.202.1701 DMR Private: 3101393 DMR TG: 31013 D-Star Call Route (UR): KV4S D-Star: XRF334C AllStar: 47923 IRLP: 4535 EchoLink: KV4S-L (1003254) HamShackHotline: 614 Web: http://KV4S.com On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 9:45 PM Rodger Hanson wrote: > Hello Russell > > I was put onto you from a fellow ham here in New Zealand, that said you > had a very good document on how to put together an allstar node. > > I have a Raspberry Pi 3, and couple of BF888s radios and two USB sound > cards, but not sure on the software to put onto the raspberry pi 3 and > how to connect it all. > > Would you mind sharing you document if one should exist? > > Have a Merry Christmas and happy New Year. > > 73 de Rodger - ZL1RAH > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Wed Dec 26 05:57:56 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 00:57:56 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: <2946748b-93b4-e47b-f293-a82b597a1c3f@slingshot.co.nz> Message-ID: <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF > radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes > also come with the HamVoip software. I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From larry at n7fm.com Wed Dec 26 08:33:05 2018 From: larry at n7fm.com (larry) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 00:33:05 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> References: <2946748b-93b4-e47b-f293-a82b597a1c3f@slingshot.co.nz> <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: Bryan, I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!!? With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere? Larry - N7FM On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes >> also come with the HamVoip software. > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > 73's From t.ottavi at bc-109.com Wed Dec 26 10:12:15 2018 From: t.ottavi at bc-109.com (Toussaint OTTAVI) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:12:15 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node & Open-Source In-Reply-To: <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> References: <2946748b-93b4-e47b-f293-a82b597a1c3f@slingshot.co.nz> <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: <564215bb-7411-385f-b809-5e552948f74c@bc-109.com> Le 26/12/2018 ? 06:57, Bryan Fields a ?crit?: > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > infringement I personally never understood why so few ham developers adopt the open source concept, and distribute closed-source software. Open-Source is perfectly suited for our non-profit and mutual instruction activity. Unfortunately, past (and present) of ham software is full of bad experiences caused by closed-source software. In the other hand, many skilled guys are writing grezat open-source software. My opinion is that we should encourage them, promote their work, and we must prompt much more people to use open-source, which is full of benefits for our activity. Lots of big commercial companies are embracing open-source, which does not conflict with business. Why shlouldn't we be able to do the same ? ;-) Our choice, here in Corsica, is to ban all software that is not open-source from our servers. We won't prevent our users from connecting to existing? "closed-software" or "closed-infrastructure" networks. But we decided to build our network only with open-source software, and forget the rest. Many thanks again for those who provide high quality software in open-source, best wishes for open-source development and promotion ! 73 de TK1BI From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 10:51:33 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 05:51:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: Bryan, Like always, your statements continue to be FALSE. The only thing criminal going on here is your continuous stream of LIBEL. Turn over a new leaf for 2019. Happy New Year 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > > However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF > > radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes > > also come with the HamVoip software. > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > 73's > From mwbesemer at cox.net Wed Dec 26 12:56:51 2018 From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 07:56:51 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: <2946748b-93b4-e47b-f293-a82b597a1c3f@slingshot.co.nz> <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: <000f01d49d1a$78af6c60$6a0e4520$@cox.net> Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Bryan, I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere? Larry - N7FM On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes >> also come with the HamVoip software. > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > 73's _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 13:19:10 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:19:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <000f01d49d1a$78af6c60$6a0e4520$@cox.net> Message-ID: Yeah, Like me! Have a look at: http://kb4fxc.com http://kb4fxc.net http://kb4fxc.org Typical behavior of Bryan, W9CR, the blooming idiot! This is the same behavior he uses against anybody who he passionately dislikes. He starts a ugly disinformation campaign. Take the Florida Repeater council, as another example: http://frcreform.org/ Well, the old saying that applies is simple: Give a fool enough rope and they'll hang themselves. W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. So, if you, too, are one of the "lucky ones" who W9CR has posted LIBELOUS content about, send me a personal e-mail. I would like to discuss the situation with you. W9CR is damaged goods. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > Bryan, > > I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. > However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip > happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative > BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful > to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative > comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one > that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL > OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when > the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about > take your personal rant elsewhere? > > Larry - N7FM > > > On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF > >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes > >> also come with the HamVoip software. > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > > > 73's > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From mwbesemer at cox.net Wed Dec 26 13:38:50 2018 From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:38:50 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: <000f01d49d1a$78af6c60$6a0e4520$@cox.net> Message-ID: <000001d49d20$563cda90$02b68fb0$@cox.net> I wonder if the registration for those sites looks like the info below. Whoever the registrant is, that individual is a total coward. 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https://www.gandi.net/support/contacter/mail/ -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of David McGough Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:19 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Yeah, Like me! Have a look at: http://kb4fxc.com http://kb4fxc.net http://kb4fxc.org Typical behavior of Bryan, W9CR, the blooming idiot! This is the same behavior he uses against anybody who he passionately dislikes. He starts a ugly disinformation campaign. Take the Florida Repeater council, as another example: http://frcreform.org/ Well, the old saying that applies is simple: Give a fool enough rope and they'll hang themselves. W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. So, if you, too, are one of the "lucky ones" who W9CR has posted LIBELOUS content about, send me a personal e-mail. I would like to discuss the situation with you. W9CR is damaged goods. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > Bryan, > > I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. > However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip > happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative > BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful > to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative > comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one > that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL > OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when > the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about > take your personal rant elsewhere? > > Larry - N7FM > > > On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF > >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes > >> also come with the HamVoip software. > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > > > 73's > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 13:46:35 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:46:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <000001d49d20$563cda90$02b68fb0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Notice that the Registrant state is Florida! Agreed, he is a BULLY and a COWARD. -------------------------------------------------- mcgough at david-vb:~$ whois kb4fxc.org Domain Name: KB4FXC.ORG Registry Domain ID: D402200000007333526-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-10-25T03:47:18Z Creation Date: 2018-08-25T19:07:53Z Registry Expiry Date: 2019-08-25T19:07:53Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: Registrar: Gandi SAS Registrar IANA ID: 81 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse at support.gandi.net Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661 Reseller: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Registrant Organization: Registrant State/Province: FL Registrant Country: US Name Server: NS-169-A.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-145-C.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-165-B.GANDI.NET DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form https://www.icann.org/wicf/) >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-12-26T13:41:38Z <<< On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > I wonder if the registration for those sites looks like the info below. > > Whoever the registrant is, that individual is a total coward. > > Raw WHOIS Record > > Domain Name: > Registry Domain ID: 2047650657_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN > Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net > Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net > Updated Date: 2018-10-25T00:53:18Z > Creation Date: 2016-07-29T23:33:44Z > Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-07-29T23:33:44Z > Registrar: GANDI SAS > Registrar IANA ID: 81 > Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse at support.gandi.net > Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661 > Reseller: > Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited > http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited > Domain Status: > Domain Status: > Domain Status: > Domain Status: > Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Organization: > Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant State/Province: Florida > Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Country: US > Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Phone Ext: > Registrant Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Fax Ext: > Registrant Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766 at contact.gandi.net > Registry Admin ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Phone Ext: > Admin Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Fax Ext: > Admin Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766 at contact.gandi.net > Registry Tech ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Phone Ext: > Tech Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Fax Ext: > Tech Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766 at contact.gandi.net > Name Server: NS-157-A.GANDI.NET > Name Server: NS-66-B.GANDI.NET > Name Server: NS-236-C.GANDI.NET > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > DNSSEC: Unsigned > URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: > http://wdprs.internic.net/ > >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-12-26T13:36:00Z <<< > > For more information on Whois status codes, please visit > https://www.icann.org/epp > > Reseller Email: > Reseller URL: > > Personal data access and use are governed by French law, any use for the > purpose of unsolicited mass commercial advertising as well as any mass or > automated inquiries (for any intent other than the registration or > modification of a domain name) are strictly forbidden. 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> https://www.gandi.net/support/contacter/mail/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of David McGough > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:19 AM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > > Yeah, Like me! Have a look at: > > > http://kb4fxc.com > http://kb4fxc.net > http://kb4fxc.org > > > Typical behavior of Bryan, W9CR, the blooming idiot! This is the same > behavior he uses against anybody who he passionately dislikes. He starts a > ugly disinformation campaign. Take the Florida Repeater council, as > another example: > > http://frcreform.org/ > > > Well, the old saying that applies is simple: Give a fool enough rope and > they'll hang themselves. > > W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full > of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. > > So, if you, too, are one of the "lucky ones" who W9CR has posted LIBELOUS > content about, send me a personal e-mail. I would like to discuss the > situation with you. > > > W9CR is damaged goods. > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > > > Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website > registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] > On Behalf Of larry > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM > > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > > > Bryan, > > > > I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. > > However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip > > happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative > > BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful > > to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative > > comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one > > that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL > > OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when > > the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about > > take your personal rant elsewhere? > > > > Larry - N7FM > > > > > > On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > > > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > > >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those > BF > > >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his > nodes > > >> also come with the HamVoip software. > > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal > copyright > > > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > > > > > 73's > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From Bryan at bryanfields.net Wed Dec 26 13:55:09 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:55:09 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: > W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full > of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 14:04:54 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:04:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: "WE" ???? Yet another, typical delutional outburst. Dude, you're already up to your neck in quicksand. And, you're right, all the world sees this, except you. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: > > W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full > > of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. > > It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a > fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are > and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. > > From mwbesemer at cox.net Wed Dec 26 16:56:07 2018 From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:56:07 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> So you've file a lawsuit? -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: > W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full > of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From edpnjax at gmail.com Wed Dec 26 17:08:19 2018 From: edpnjax at gmail.com (EDPnJAX) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:08:19 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> Message-ID: <53DEF23A-3556-4C37-B942-ACE2A78CF9A9@gmail.com> Let it go guys? ALL of you! This isn?t productive, in fact it?s destructive. The list isn?t meant for this junk. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: > > So you've file a lawsuit? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Fields > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. > > It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are > a > fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you > are > and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 17:35:15 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:35:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <53DEF23A-3556-4C37-B942-ACE2A78CF9A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an Internet Bully, you might feel differently. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote: > Let it go guys??? ALL of you! This isn???t productive, in fact it???s destructive. The list isn???t meant for this junk. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: > > So you've file a lawsuit? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Fields > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. > > It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are > a > fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you > are > and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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From edpnjax at gmail.com Wed Dec 26 17:38:04 2018 From: edpnjax at gmail.com (EDPnJAX) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:38:04 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0726E0CE-A565-4A76-A765-E1A3D6B86A84@gmail.com> I have been, and just like most everything else in life? ignore it and when they don?t get anything in return they will eventually go away. Like a stray? keep feeding themguys and they?ll return. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:35 PM, David McGough wrote: > > > Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an > Internet Bully, you might feel differently. > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote: > >> Let it go guys?? ALL of you! > > This isn't??t productive, in fact it's??s destructive. The list isn't??t meant for this junk. > >> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node >> >> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >>> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >>> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. >> >> It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are >> a >> fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you >> are >> and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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From willem at prinmath.com Wed Dec 26 17:44:37 2018 From: willem at prinmath.com (Willem Schreuder) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:44:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > So you've file a lawsuit? I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) for software. We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to do repeater linking. Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely available to others. So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software I wrote. We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Wed Dec 26 17:45:54 2018 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:45:54 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <53DEF23A-3556-4C37-B942-ACE2A78CF9A9@gmail.com> References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> <53DEF23A-3556-4C37-B942-ACE2A78CF9A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: AMEN. It?s only AMATEUR radio. If it disappeared tomorrow, the world would neither be better nor worse off, in truth. If the legal and moral owners of the copyrights have no inclination to fight it or enforce their rights, in the end, does it really matter what anyone who has no rights to the software thinks? Both versions of the fork have plusses and minuses. In the end, the marketplace will decide. But in the meantime, all the constant bickering and ?who?s is bigger? argument is doing is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It?s just a hobby. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:08, EDPnJAX wrote: > > Let it go guys? ALL of you! > > This isn?t productive, in fact it?s destructive. The list isn?t meant for this junk. > >> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node >> >>> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >>> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >>> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. >> >> It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are >> a >> fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you >> are >> and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwbesemer at cox.net Wed Dec 26 17:50:28 2018 From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:50:28 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <0726E0CE-A565-4A76-A765-E1A3D6B86A84@gmail.com> References: <0726E0CE-A565-4A76-A765-E1A3D6B86A84@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01d49d43$7cdb8d40$7692a7c0$@cox.net> No... I've been ignoring this particular coward for a number of years and he still takes every opportunity to flame me, to include the registration of my callsign as a web domain with a redirect to a porn site. If he were half a man, he'd confront me directly, but he chooses to play silly little games like a 3 year-old. I've never done a thing to this man-child except to disagree with him and his attitude, but apparently that?s all it takes to send him into a tantrum. Frankly, I'm tired of his attitude, his mouth, and his existence as a 'source of knowledge' for this (and other) lists. I don't care how smart he is or how much he has contributed. He is a liability to ASL as long as his name is associated with it. It's hard to respect an organization who would allow someone like that to speak on their behalf. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of EDPnJAX Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:38 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node I have been, and just like most everything else in life? ignore it and when they don?t get anything in return they will eventually go away. Like a stray? keep feeding themguys and they?ll return. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:35 PM, David McGough wrote: > > > Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an > Internet Bully, you might feel differently. > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote: > >> Let it go guys?? ALL of you! > > This isn't??t productive, in fact it's??s destructive. The list isn't??t meant for this junk. > >> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node >> >> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >>> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >>> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. >> >> It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are >> a >> fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you >> are >> and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From mwbesemer at cox.net Wed Dec 26 17:52:12 2018 From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:52:12 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> Message-ID: <001001d49d43$bb2bb340$318319c0$@cox.net> The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does anything to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Willem Schreuder Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:45 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > So you've file a lawsuit? I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) for software. We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to do repeater linking. Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely available to others. So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software I wrote. We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From cnovey at gmail.com Wed Dec 26 18:08:12 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:08:12 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> Message-ID: <026801d49d45$f80e0680$e82a1380$@gmail.com> Thanks for this Willem- well spoken. Clifford - KK6QMS -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Willem Schreuder Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 9:45 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > So you've file a lawsuit? I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) for software. We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to do repeater linking. Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely available to others. So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software I wrote. We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From willem at prinmath.com Wed Dec 26 18:10:05 2018 From: willem at prinmath.com (Willem Schreuder) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:10:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <001001d49d43$bb2bb340$318319c0$@cox.net> References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> <001001d49d43$bb2bb340$318319c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does anything > to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. I cannot condone the name calling and ad hominem attacks. I understand the passion on both sides, and I agree it has gotten way out of hand. However, the point remains that the GPL is pretty black and white on the issue of releasing the source code, and it is up to all of us to point out when the GPL is being violated. I just wish we can do it in a civil manner, and not dismiss the whole issue because of personal animosity. ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com From cummingsj at gmail.com Wed Dec 26 18:13:16 2018 From: cummingsj at gmail.com (JJC) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:13:16 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> <001001d49d43$bb2bb340$318319c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Willem++ On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:10 AM Willem Schreuder wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > > > The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does > anything > > to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. > > I cannot condone the name calling and ad hominem attacks. I understand > the passion on both sides, and I agree it has gotten way out of hand. > > However, the point remains that the GPL is pretty black and white on the > issue of releasing the source code, and it is up to all of us to point out > when the GPL is being violated. > > I just wish we can do it in a civil manner, and not dismiss the whole > issue because of personal animosity. > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Wed Dec 26 19:11:39 2018 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:11:39 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <001001d49d43$bb2bb340$318319c0$@cox.net> References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> <001001d49d43$bb2bb340$318319c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: <8EC62664-52E0-48A7-90D1-678CF51410E2@bdboyle.com> or ignore it and move on. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:52, Mike Besemer wrote: > > The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does anything > to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of Willem Schreuder > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:45 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? > > I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur > radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) > for software. > > We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of > spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must > promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when > there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, > WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does > the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. > > Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of > billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free > operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of > which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community > self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple > as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the > GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help > improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. > > Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, > but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things > you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. > Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to > The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does anything > to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of Willem Schreuder > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:45 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? > > I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur > radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) > for software. > > We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of > spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must > promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when > there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, > WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does > the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. > > Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of > billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free > operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of > which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community > self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple > as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the > GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help > improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. > > Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, > but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things > you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. > Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to > do repeater linking. > > Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a > lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the > cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you > are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make > sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, > sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. > > In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. > We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that > we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely > available to others. > > So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to > make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source > model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many > others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software > available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process > I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as > well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software > I wrote. > > We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is > pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I > don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in > arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the > source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. > > -Willem > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From willem at prinmath.com Wed Dec 26 19:40:08 2018 From: willem at prinmath.com (Willem Schreuder) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:40:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <8EC62664-52E0-48A7-90D1-678CF51410E2@bdboyle.com> References: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> <001001d49d43$bb2bb340$318319c0$@cox.net> <8EC62664-52E0-48A7-90D1-678CF51410E2@bdboyle.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > or ignore it and move on. I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams run afoul of Part 97. If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, it does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by contributing software. If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. But let's be civil in how we go about it. ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 20:17:23 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:17:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <000f01d49d43$7cdb8d40$7692a7c0$@cox.net> Message-ID: Unfortunately, ignoring bullies rarely works. When bullies show up on the Internet and will NOT go away, this is Cyberstalking. And, yes, there are relatively new laws in the USA intended to address this. For a better description, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking This has gone on long enough, with a lot of different people. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > No... I've been ignoring this particular coward for a number of years and he still takes every opportunity to flame me, to include the registration of my callsign as a web domain with a redirect to a porn site. If he were half a man, he'd confront me directly, but he chooses to play silly little games like a 3 year-old. I've never done a thing to this man-child except to disagree with him and his attitude, but apparently that???s all it takes to send him into a tantrum. Frankly, I'm tired of his attitude, his mouth, and his existence as a 'source of knowledge' for this (and other) lists. I don't care how smart he is or how much he has contributed. He is a liability to ASL as long as his name is associated with it. It's hard to respect an organization who would allow someone like that to speak on their behalf. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of EDPnJAX Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:38 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node I have been, and just like most everything else in life??? ignore it and when they don???t get anything in return they will eventually go away. Like a stray??? keep feeding themguys and they???ll return. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:35 PM, David McGough wrote: > > > Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an > Internet Bully, you might feel differently. > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote: > >> Let it go guys????? ALL of you! > > This isn't??????t productive, in fact it's??????s destructive. The list isn't??????t meant for this junk. > >> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node >> >> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >>> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >>> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. >> >> It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are >> a >> fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you >> are >> and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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From larry at n7fm.com Wed Dec 26 20:52:06 2018 From: larry at n7fm.com (larry) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:52:06 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <52adbd03-333b-8b01-3796-a237c2be9286@n7fm.com> References: <2946748b-93b4-e47b-f293-a82b597a1c3f@slingshot.co.nz> <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> <52adbd03-333b-8b01-3796-a237c2be9286@n7fm.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 20:57:47 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:57:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Larry, You didn't start it. It is time to find some answers though. This has gone on long enough. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, larry wrote: > Well I'm sorry I posted that! It wasn't meant to start a flame discussion. > > My point ----?? I was lead to believe the Allstar Lists were here to share and give pointers. Especially to those new to the hobby. If it is going to become a > place for everyone to keep bashing others for one reason or another? It serves no purpose and is detrimental to the hobby and should be trashed. > > I could care less about anyones personal feeling about any other individual. I subscribe to this list only for the helpful knowledge it can provide for > Allstar/Asterisk. > > Take the personal bickering and opinions elsewhere!!!! > > Larry - N7FM > > > On 12/26/18 12:33 AM, larry wrote: > Bryan, > > I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens > to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. > Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would > take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!!?? With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT > appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere? > > Larry - N7FM > > > On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF > radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes > also come with the HamVoip software. > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > 73's > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the > page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list > detailing the problem. > > > > From waltcarter30 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 21:08:54 2018 From: waltcarter30 at yahoo.com (walter) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:08:54 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: <2946748b-93b4-e47b-f293-a82b597a1c3f@slingshot.co.nz> <8179c137-f8f0-bf15-a616-896f002e5789@bryanfields.net> <52adbd03-333b-8b01-3796-a237c2be9286@n7fm.com> Message-ID: As a new ham to allstar I don?t think this is the place for this subject. I have learned a lot over the past two months. I finally got my node stable and working. I am now starting to build my second 900 mhz repeater with an allstar node. I look at this page for information not all the bickering. How about a second users group for the non technical stuff. Walt WB4LDS 49289 From: larry Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:52 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Well I'm sorry I posted that! It wasn't meant to start a flame discussion. My point ---- I was lead to believe the Allstar Lists were here to share and give pointers. Especially to those new to the hobby. If it is going to become a place for everyone to keep bashing others for one reason or another? It serves no purpose and is detrimental to the hobby and should be trashed. I could care less about anyones personal feeling about any other individual. I subscribe to this list only for the helpful knowledge it can provide for Allstar/Asterisk. Take the personal bickering and opinions elsewhere!!!! Larry - N7FM On 12/26/18 12:33 AM, larry wrote: Bryan, I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere? Larry - N7FM On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes also come with the HamVoip software. I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright infringement. 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URL: From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 21:23:23 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:23:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Willem, Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all are being used a pawns. There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will ("Intestate"). There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets listed at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this case number: 17STPB08347 When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This question has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No Answer. Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by W9CR (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only be initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by the owner?? Some other interesting facts include: How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, as of his untimely death?? They include: allstarlink.com allstarlink.net allstarlink.org bsdtelephony.net duuuude.com lambdatel.com ofaa.org zapatatelephony.com zapatatelephony.org Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. That also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the exhibits presented! Here is a link: https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless bull hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. Sincerely, 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > or ignore it and move on. > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams > run afoul of Part 97. > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, it > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > contributing software. > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From asylthe at kc9ona.com Wed Dec 26 21:33:44 2018 From: asylthe at kc9ona.com (Andrew Sylthe) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:33:44 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David, Everyone seems to be in agreement that open source is a good thing. Would you be willing to just address the entire list why you won't release the source? That's the only question I would have. Why the source that you've built upon is being kept under lock and key while it's being distributed... Thanks! On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM David McGough > > Willem, > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all are > being used a pawns. > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will ("Intestate"). > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets listed > at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to > the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this > case number: 17STPB08347 > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This question > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No > Answer. > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by W9CR > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only be > initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by the > owner?? > > Some other interesting facts include: > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, as of > his untimely death?? They include: > > allstarlink.com > allstarlink.net > allstarlink.org > bsdtelephony.net > duuuude.com > lambdatel.com > ofaa.org > zapatatelephony.com > zapatatelephony.org > > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. That > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 > > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the > word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the > exhibits presented! Here is a link: > > > https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database > > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless bull > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. > > > > Sincerely, > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > > > or ignore it and move on. > > > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams > > run afoul of Part 97. > > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to > > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, > it > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > > contributing software. > > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > > > ================================================================ > > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 21:58:04 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:58:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2?? I've got to have this answered in a legally acceptable way (e.g.: notarized affidavit). Incidentally, ASL, Inc., *SHOULD* be very concerned about this, too. As of the last several months, I now have a secondary concern as well---W9CR's Cyber-hickery. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Andrew Sylthe wrote: > David, > > Everyone seems to be in agreement that open source is a good thing. Would > you be willing to just address the entire list why you won't release the > source? That's the only question I would have. Why the source that you've > built upon is being kept under lock and key while it's being distributed... > > Thanks! > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM David McGough > > > > > > Willem, > > > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few > > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all are > > being used a pawns. > > > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. > > > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will ("Intestate"). > > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no > > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets listed > > at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to > > the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 > > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this > > case number: 17STPB08347 > > > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This question > > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have > > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No > > Answer. > > > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. > > > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by W9CR > > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only be > > initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by the > > owner?? > > > > Some other interesting facts include: > > > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, as of > > his untimely death?? They include: > > > > allstarlink.com > > allstarlink.net > > allstarlink.org > > bsdtelephony.net > > duuuude.com > > lambdatel.com > > ofaa.org > > zapatatelephony.com > > zapatatelephony.org > > > > > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. That > > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: > > > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 > > > > > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the > > word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the > > exhibits presented! Here is a link: > > > > > > https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database > > > > > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless bull > > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > > > > > or ignore it and move on. > > > > > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point > > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams > > > run afoul of Part 97. > > > > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to > > > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, > > it > > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > > > contributing software. > > > > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of > > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > > > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > > > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > > > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > > > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > > the list detailing the problem. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > > the list detailing the problem. > > > From shawpbx at gmail.com Wed Dec 26 22:23:55 2018 From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:23:55 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LOL, I know Jim was thinking of putting a digital key in his code. So when the node registered or keyed up and linked to another node. It would show up as a ASL node and not some forked system. By the way. I love the armchair lawyer talk and gumshoe detective work. Start a new thread and keep it coming. Its funny stuff. Maybe we can get on Judge Judy. That would be great TV. -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:23 PM David McGough wrote: > > > Willem, > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all are > being used a pawns. > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will ("Intestate"). > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets listed > at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to > the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this > case number: 17STPB08347 > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This question > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No > Answer. > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by W9CR > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only be > initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by the > owner?? > > Some other interesting facts include: > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, as of > his untimely death?? They include: > > allstarlink.com > allstarlink.net > allstarlink.org > bsdtelephony.net > duuuude.com > lambdatel.com > ofaa.org > zapatatelephony.com > zapatatelephony.org > > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. That > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 > > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the > word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the > exhibits presented! Here is a link: > > > https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database > > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless bull > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. > > > > Sincerely, > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > > > or ignore it and move on. > > > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams > > run afoul of Part 97. > > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to > > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, > it > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > > contributing software. > > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > > > ================================================================ > > Dr. Willem A. 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URL: From asylthe at kc9ona.com Wed Dec 26 22:38:12 2018 From: asylthe at kc9ona.com (Andrew Sylthe) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:38:12 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wasn't all of the code held on Jim's SVN server? I'm guessing all the commits were time stamped. Wouldn't that answer when the first time the GPL blurb was included alongside the code? On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:58 PM David McGough > My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various > AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2?? > I've got to have this answered in a legally acceptable way (e.g.: > notarized affidavit). > > Incidentally, ASL, Inc., *SHOULD* be very concerned about this, too. > > As of the last several months, I now have a secondary concern as > well---W9CR's Cyber-hickery. > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Andrew Sylthe wrote: > > > David, > > > > Everyone seems to be in agreement that open source is a good thing. Would > > you be willing to just address the entire list why you won't release the > > source? That's the only question I would have. Why the source that you've > > built upon is being kept under lock and key while it's being > distributed... > > > > Thanks! > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM David McGough > > > > > > > > > > Willem, > > > > > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few > > > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all > are > > > being used a pawns. > > > > > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. > > > > > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will > ("Intestate"). > > > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no > > > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets > listed > > > at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to > > > the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 > > > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this > > > case number: 17STPB08347 > > > > > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This > question > > > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have > > > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No > > > Answer. > > > > > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. > > > > > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by > W9CR > > > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only > be > > > initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by > the > > > owner?? > > > > > > Some other interesting facts include: > > > > > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, > as of > > > his untimely death?? They include: > > > > > > allstarlink.com > > > allstarlink.net > > > allstarlink.org > > > bsdtelephony.net > > > duuuude.com > > > lambdatel.com > > > ofaa.org > > > zapatatelephony.com > > > zapatatelephony.org > > > > > > > > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. > That > > > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: > > > > > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 > > > > > > > > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the > > > word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the > > > exhibits presented! Here is a link: > > > > > > > > > > https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless > bull > > > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > > > > > > > or ignore it and move on. > > > > > > > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to > point > > > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where > hams > > > > run afoul of Part 97. > > > > > > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice > to > > > > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the > GPL, > > > it > > > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > > > > contributing software. > > > > > > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance > of > > > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > > > > > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > > Dr. Willem A. 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URL: From horsezip at earthlink.net Wed Dec 26 22:45:29 2018 From: horsezip at earthlink.net (jimmy keffer) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:45:29 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: all this junk is making me want 2 just the alstar system it's just sad being newer to this i only got to talk to jim dude once but i'm sure is turning over in his grave seeing this crap go om jimmy ka3vgm pa, From willem at prinmath.com Wed Dec 26 22:55:18 2018 From: willem at prinmath.com (Willem Schreuder) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:55:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various > AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2? The beauty of the GPL is that it is largely irrelevant who the copyright holder is. If you hold a GPL copyright, the ONLY power you have is that you can ensure that the software remains open source. By using the GPL you explicitly allow ANYBODY to use, modify, redistribute or other make use of that code. The only restriction is that in turn, they also provide these modifications under the same terms. The GPL does not view the world as a zero sum game. It explicitly recognizes that when we get the best ideas from everybody, we are all better off. So anybody could fork the ASL codebase, make it better or worse or change it in any way that like. The ONLY requirement is that you MUST release the source. If the only leverage that people who mean HAMVOIP ill has is the GPL, then I would submit that you can undercut their ill intentions by releasing the source. Then you will have the high ground both legally and ethically. I would argue that the superior technology will win out, regardless of whether it is called AllStarLink or HAMVOIP or whatever name you choose. As long as you comply with the GPL, there is nothing anybody can do to prevent you from developing and expanding the technology. Furthermore, it give you the power to enforce compliance with the GPL for the components you contribute. And while it is undoubtedly true that other people will make use of the clever things you contributed, people will know where it was pioneered and others will be playing catchup as long as you keep improving your implementation. And there may be other clever things you could use and improve on that others may invent. I think I have made it clear that I am not naive about the political machinations and I certainly don't condone the underhanded things that have happened. However, I cannot condone violation of the GPL as an appropriate response. ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com From kb4fxc at inttek.net Wed Dec 26 23:39:57 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 18:39:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: Message-ID: WHAT??? In the USA, copyright law is the ONLY thing that matters! Wow. So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof??? In the best case, it'll be innocent infringement and yes, you'll be settling in or out of court. Oh wait, I've been there. Got that tee shirt. Don't need another one. This is one reason why Digium requires a contributor agreement. When you sign that legal agreement, you state that the code you're providing is your own and not from any other sources. Why is my simple request an insurmountable issue?? Enough for today. Other fish to fry. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > > > My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various > > AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2? > > The beauty of the GPL is that it is largely irrelevant who the copyright > holder is. If you hold a GPL copyright, the ONLY power you have is that > you can ensure that the software remains open source. > > By using the GPL you explicitly allow ANYBODY to use, modify, redistribute > or other make use of that code. The only restriction is that in turn, > they also provide these modifications under the same terms. > > The GPL does not view the world as a zero sum game. It explicitly > recognizes that when we get the best ideas from everybody, we are all > better off. > > So anybody could fork the ASL codebase, make it better or worse or change > it in any way that like. The ONLY requirement is that you MUST release > the source. > > If the only leverage that people who mean HAMVOIP ill has is the GPL, then > I would submit that you can undercut their ill intentions by releasing the > source. Then you will have the high ground both legally and ethically. > > I would argue that the superior technology will win out, regardless of > whether it is called AllStarLink or HAMVOIP or whatever name you choose. > As long as you comply with the GPL, there is nothing anybody can do to > prevent you from developing and expanding the technology. Furthermore, it > give you the power to enforce compliance with the GPL for the components > you contribute. > > And while it is undoubtedly true that other people will make use of the > clever things you contributed, people will know where it was pioneered and > others will be playing catchup as long as you keep improving your > implementation. And there may be other clever things you could use and > improve on that others may invent. > > I think I have made it clear that I am not naive about the political > machinations and I certainly don't condone the underhanded things that > have happened. > > However, I cannot condone violation of the GPL as an appropriate response. > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From todd at nccom.com Wed Dec 26 23:50:45 2018 From: todd at nccom.com (Todd Lesser) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:50:45 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Unix Message-ID: Does anyone know how to save the network configuration in Limey Linux? My node is currently set up as static IP and I want to change it to DHCP. I run net setup but when I reboot, it loses it all. I assume there is a command that will save it to flash memory. Does anyone know what that is? Thanks From mm at midnighteng.com Wed Dec 26 23:56:57 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 18:56:57 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Unix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have not used Limey but, taking a guess, if it uses selinux enabled, you might want to turn it off while you make your changes, then turn it back on. There are command methods to push it through when on but you will have to search the web for it. Again, just a guess. Perhaps someone has a better answer. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/26/2018 6:50 PM, Todd Lesser wrote: > Does anyone know how to save the network configuration in Limey Linux? My node is currently set up as static IP and I want to change it to DHCP. > I run net setup but when I reboot, it loses it all. > I assume there is a command that will save it to flash memory. > > Does anyone know what that is? > > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From willem at prinmath.com Thu Dec 27 00:21:45 2018 From: willem at prinmath.com (Willem Schreuder) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:21:45 -0700 (MST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now > and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should > never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof? I'm not sure I understand the argument. Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because you are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL? In that case, are you not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and use it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not. The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the GPL that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as they see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the source. It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is. If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are quite right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code. I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Thu Dec 27 01:06:17 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:06:17 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Modules.conf: autoload Message-ID: <5678ED8B-1FB7-4D6A-857B-FC279645589A@gmail.com> How does the ?autoload? command work in modules.conf, and when would want to say =yes, and =no? Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 From mm at midnighteng.com Thu Dec 27 01:12:20 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:12:20 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Modules.conf: autoload In-Reply-To: <5678ED8B-1FB7-4D6A-857B-FC279645589A@gmail.com> References: <5678ED8B-1FB7-4D6A-857B-FC279645589A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Bob, Use this general Asterisk guide. https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Configuring+the+Asterisk+Module+Loader As far as what modules are needed for some functions... good luck we have no documentation that I know of. Much is obvious and self evident. If you have a issue on a function or particular module, ask the group. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/26/2018 8:06 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: > How does the ?autoload? command work in modules.conf, and when would want to say =yes, and =no? > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From kb4fxc at inttek.net Thu Dec 27 01:14:14 2018 From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:14:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging: 1. A binary blob that can't be easily reverse engineered and can only be used in a very specific, limited scope way. 2. A source code file that once disclosed can be copied by anyone in the future, for ever more. Something like: void my_secret_spy_function() { // // patented or licensed algorithms // // } I would argue that #1 would be the least damaging to an unknown owner's intellectual property rights. At least an attempt has been made to limit the damage to any intellectual property, while waiting for the dust to clear. Twenty two months ago, I fully expected a new copyright owner to emerge, once Jim's Estate was settled---easing many of my concerns. Those were the claims being made at that time. Now, with the records of what has actually transpired, I really don't know what to think. It's pointless to argue semantics any further. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > > > So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now > > and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should > > never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof? > > I'm not sure I understand the argument. > > Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because you > are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL? In that case, are you > not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and use > it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not. > > The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the GPL > that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as they > see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the > source. > > It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable > argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent > infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is. > > If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are quite > right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code. > > I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following. > -Willem > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Thu Dec 27 01:19:59 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:19:59 -0800 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Modules.conf: autoload In-Reply-To: References: <5678ED8B-1FB7-4D6A-857B-FC279645589A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <24F06174-0083-46D8-9FC0-E3E5DDACBF59@gmail.com> Very good, thanks Mike. Bob K6ECM 73 > On Dec 26, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Mike wrote: > > Bob, > > Use this general Asterisk guide. > > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Configuring+the+Asterisk+Module+Loader > > As far as what modules are needed for some functions... good luck we have no documentation that I know of. > Much is obvious and self evident. > If you have a issue on a function or particular module, ask the group. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > >> On 12/26/2018 8:06 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: >> How does the ?autoload? command work in modules.conf, and when would want to say =yes, and =no? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> K6ECM >> 73 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From cummingsj at gmail.com Thu Dec 27 02:04:54 2018 From: cummingsj at gmail.com (JJC) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 19:04:54 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DCF334E-CDD9-4CE1-882F-0536305F4355@gmail.com> So you are saying that you are attempting to protect Jim?s intellectual property in some way? That same intellectual property that was already released as opensource under the GPL? Incidentally, what you describe in #2 is precisely the spirit (and legal function) of the GPL to begin with. Sent from the iRoad > On Dec 26, 2018, at 18:14, David McGough wrote: > > > My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is > unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging: > > 1. A binary blob that can't be easily reverse engineered and can only be > used in a very specific, limited scope way. > > 2. A source code file that once disclosed can be copied by anyone > in the future, for ever more. Something like: > > void my_secret_spy_function() { > // > // patented or licensed algorithms > // > // > } > > > I would argue that #1 would be the least damaging to an unknown owner's > intellectual property rights. At least an attempt has been made to limit > the damage to any intellectual property, while waiting for the dust to > clear. > > Twenty two months ago, I fully expected a new copyright owner to emerge, > once Jim's Estate was settled---easing many of my concerns. Those were > the claims being made at that time. Now, with the records of what has > actually transpired, I really don't know what to think. > > > It's pointless to argue semantics any further. > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: >>> >>> So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now >>> and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should >>> never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof? >> >> I'm not sure I understand the argument. >> >> Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because you >> are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL? In that case, are you >> not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and use >> it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not. >> >> The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the GPL >> that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as they >> see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the >> source. >> >> It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable >> argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent >> infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is. >> >> If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are quite >> right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code. >> >> I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following. >> -Willem >> >> ================================================================ >> Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica >> Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA >> Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 >> WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From willem at prinmath.com Thu Dec 27 02:55:59 2018 From: willem at prinmath.com (Willem Schreuder) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 19:55:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is > unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging: You omit the third and only responsible action if you believe that you are releasing private intellectual property not covered by the GPL: 3. Do not release anything at all. If you don't believe that you have the right to that intellectual property through the GPL, you have no business releasing it in any form whatsoever. This is why the GPL is so powerful. Once you release something under the GPL, you cannot take it back. That is why software companies have to be so careful taking contributions. The GPL is rather insidious, and I for one think that is a good thing. ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com From george at dyb.com Thu Dec 27 15:44:13 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 09:44:13 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] TECHNICAL QUESTION re: Echolink Message-ID: <38fb61e6-8320-4eaa-1015-2d1e3393609c@dyb.com> I have not been paying attention and may have missed something. But... having problem opening echolink port. This has worked in the past but I disabled by removing the config file. But is there anything else in app_rpt that could inhibit Echolink? My config file looks correct in my 2360 and 28599 boxes. But when doing netstat I don't see the three ports open. Somebody have a nudge in the right direction? GeorgeC W2DB 2360, 28599 -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel From petem001 at gmail.com Thu Dec 27 16:05:45 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:05:45 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] TECHNICAL QUESTION re: Echolink In-Reply-To: <38fb61e6-8320-4eaa-1015-2d1e3393609c@dyb.com> References: <38fb61e6-8320-4eaa-1015-2d1e3393609c@dyb.com> Message-ID: Have you check in modules.conf if the hannel driver for echolink is loaded? Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le jeu. 27 d?c. 2018 ? 10:44, George Csahanin a ?crit : > I have not been paying attention and may have missed something. But... > having problem opening echolink port. This has worked in the past but I > disabled by removing the config file. But is there anything else in > app_rpt that could inhibit Echolink? My config file looks correct in my > 2360 and 28599 boxes. But when doing netstat I don't see the three ports > open. > > Somebody have a nudge in the right direction? > > GeorgeC W2DB 2360, 28599 > > -- > George Csahanin > 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. > Crowley, TX 76036 > 682-708-5716 home > 401-338-0568 cel > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From george at dyb.com Thu Dec 27 16:41:20 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 10:41:20 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Echolink...got it working... Message-ID: <9a6375f1-23d0-bf54-dd6b-507a5cc2cc1f@dyb.com> Loaded new style modules.conf (still didn't work) then went back to my original modules file with a load statement for echolink and it worked. Then again at the same time I changed the email address in the echolink.conf file...,aybe that was it Thanks anyhow. Now to figure why Allmon stopped on the same node. GeorgeC W2DB -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel From tom at k5tra.net Thu Dec 27 17:00:00 2018 From: tom at k5tra.net (Tom) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:00:00 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003e01d49e05$9c13dec0$d43b9c40$@k5tra.net> Thanks Willem, That was well said. David, release the source code. K5TRA -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 6:00 AM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 25 Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org You can reach the person managing the list at app_rpt-users-owner at lists.allstarlink.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..." This site is dedicated to the memory of Jim Dixon WB6NIL Today's Topics: 1. Re: Allstar Node (Mike Besemer) 2. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 3. 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Re: Allstar Node (Willem Schreuder) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 07:56:51 -0500 From: "Mike Besemer" To: "'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'" Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <000f01d49d1a$78af6c60$6a0e4520$@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Bryan, I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere? Larry - N7FM On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes >> also come with the HamVoip software. > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > 73's _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:19:10 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yeah, Like me! Have a look at: http://kb4fxc.com http://kb4fxc.net http://kb4fxc.org Typical behavior of Bryan, W9CR, the blooming idiot! This is the same behavior he uses against anybody who he passionately dislikes. He starts a ugly disinformation campaign. Take the Florida Repeater council, as another example: http://frcreform.org/ Well, the old saying that applies is simple: Give a fool enough rope and they'll hang themselves. W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. So, if you, too, are one of the "lucky ones" who W9CR has posted LIBELOUS content about, send me a personal e-mail. I would like to discuss the situation with you. W9CR is damaged goods. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > Bryan, > > I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. > However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip > happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative > BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful > to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative > comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one > that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL > OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when > the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about > take your personal rant elsewhere? > > Larry - N7FM > > > On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF > >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes > >> also come with the HamVoip software. > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > > > 73's > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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https://www.gandi.net/support/contacter/mail/ -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of David McGough Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:19 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Yeah, Like me! Have a look at: http://kb4fxc.com http://kb4fxc.net http://kb4fxc.org Typical behavior of Bryan, W9CR, the blooming idiot! This is the same behavior he uses against anybody who he passionately dislikes. He starts a ugly disinformation campaign. Take the Florida Repeater council, as another example: http://frcreform.org/ Well, the old saying that applies is simple: Give a fool enough rope and they'll hang themselves. W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. So, if you, too, are one of the "lucky ones" who W9CR has posted LIBELOUS content about, send me a personal e-mail. I would like to discuss the situation with you. W9CR is damaged goods. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > Bryan, > > I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. > However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip > happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative > BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful > to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative > comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one > that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL > OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when > the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about > take your personal rant elsewhere? > > Larry - N7FM > > > On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF > >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes > >> also come with the HamVoip software. > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > > > 73's > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:46:35 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Notice that the Registrant state is Florida! Agreed, he is a BULLY and a COWARD. -------------------------------------------------- mcgough at david-vb:~$ whois kb4fxc.org Domain Name: KB4FXC.ORG Registry Domain ID: D402200000007333526-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-10-25T03:47:18Z Creation Date: 2018-08-25T19:07:53Z Registry Expiry Date: 2019-08-25T19:07:53Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: Registrar: Gandi SAS Registrar IANA ID: 81 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse at support.gandi.net Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661 Reseller: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Registrant Organization: Registrant State/Province: FL Registrant Country: US Name Server: NS-169-A.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-145-C.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-165-B.GANDI.NET DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form https://www.icann.org/wicf/) >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-12-26T13:41:38Z <<< On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > I wonder if the registration for those sites looks like the info below. > > Whoever the registrant is, that individual is a total coward. > > Raw WHOIS Record > > Domain Name: > Registry Domain ID: 2047650657_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN > Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net > Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net > Updated Date: 2018-10-25T00:53:18Z > Creation Date: 2016-07-29T23:33:44Z > Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-07-29T23:33:44Z > Registrar: GANDI SAS > Registrar IANA ID: 81 > Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse at support.gandi.net > Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661 > Reseller: > Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited > http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited > Domain Status: > Domain Status: > Domain Status: > Domain Status: > Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Organization: > Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant State/Province: Florida > Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Country: US > Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Phone Ext: > Registrant Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Fax Ext: > Registrant Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766 at contact.gandi.net > Registry Admin ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Phone Ext: > Admin Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Admin Fax Ext: > Admin Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766 at contact.gandi.net > Registry Tech ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Phone Ext: > Tech Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Tech Fax Ext: > Tech Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766 at contact.gandi.net > Name Server: NS-157-A.GANDI.NET > Name Server: NS-66-B.GANDI.NET > Name Server: NS-236-C.GANDI.NET > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > Name Server: > DNSSEC: Unsigned > URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: > http://wdprs.internic.net/ > >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-12-26T13:36:00Z <<< > > For more information on Whois status codes, please visit > https://www.icann.org/epp > > Reseller Email: > Reseller URL: > > Personal data access and use are governed by French law, any use for the > purpose of unsolicited mass commercial advertising as well as any mass or > automated inquiries (for any intent other than the registration or > modification of a domain name) are strictly forbidden. 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> https://www.gandi.net/support/contacter/mail/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of David McGough > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:19 AM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > > Yeah, Like me! Have a look at: > > > http://kb4fxc.com > http://kb4fxc.net > http://kb4fxc.org > > > Typical behavior of Bryan, W9CR, the blooming idiot! This is the same > behavior he uses against anybody who he passionately dislikes. He starts a > ugly disinformation campaign. Take the Florida Repeater council, as > another example: > > http://frcreform.org/ > > > Well, the old saying that applies is simple: Give a fool enough rope and > they'll hang themselves. > > W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full > of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. > > So, if you, too, are one of the "lucky ones" who W9CR has posted LIBELOUS > content about, send me a personal e-mail. I would like to discuss the > situation with you. > > > W9CR is damaged goods. > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > > > Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website > registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] > On Behalf Of larry > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM > > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > > > Bryan, > > > > I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. > > However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip > > happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative > > BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful > > to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative > > comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one > > that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL > > OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when > > the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about > > take your personal rant elsewhere? > > > > Larry - N7FM > > > > > > On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > > > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > > >> However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those > BF > > >> radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his > nodes > > >> also come with the HamVoip software. > > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal > copyright > > > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > > > > > 73's > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:55:09 -0500 From: Bryan Fields To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c at bryanfields.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: > W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full > of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:04:54 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "WE" ???? Yet another, typical delutional outburst. Dude, you're already up to your neck in quicksand. And, you're right, all the world sees this, except you. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: > > W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full > > of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. > > It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a > fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are > and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:56:07 -0500 From: "Mike Besemer" To: "'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'" Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So you've file a lawsuit? -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: > W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full > of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:08:19 -0500 From: EDPnJAX To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <53DEF23A-3556-4C37-B942-ACE2A78CF9A9 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Let it go guys? ALL of you! This isn?t productive, in fact it?s destructive. The list isn?t meant for this junk. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: > > So you've file a lawsuit? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Fields > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. > > It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are > a > fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you > are > and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:35:15 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an Internet Bully, you might feel differently. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote: > Let it go guys??? ALL of you! This isn???t productive, in fact it???s destructive. The list isn???t meant for this junk. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: > > So you've file a lawsuit? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of Bryan Fields > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. > > It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are > a > fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you > are > and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:38:04 -0500 From: EDPnJAX To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <0726E0CE-A565-4A76-A765-E1A3D6B86A84 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have been, and just like most everything else in life? ignore it and when they don?t get anything in return they will eventually go away. Like a stray? keep feeding themguys and they?ll return. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:35 PM, David McGough wrote: > > > Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an > Internet Bully, you might feel differently. > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote: > >> Let it go guys?? ALL of you! > > This isn't??t productive, in fact it's??s destructive. The list isn't??t meant for this junk. > >> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node >> >> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >>> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >>> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. >> >> It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are >> a >> fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you >> are >> and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:44:37 -0700 (MST) From: Willem Schreuder To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > So you've file a lawsuit? I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) for software. We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to do repeater linking. Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely available to others. So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software I wrote. We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:45:54 -0500 From: "Bryan D. Boyle" To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" AMEN. It?s only AMATEUR radio. If it disappeared tomorrow, the world would neither be better nor worse off, in truth. If the legal and moral owners of the copyrights have no inclination to fight it or enforce their rights, in the end, does it really matter what anyone who has no rights to the software thinks? Both versions of the fork have plusses and minuses. In the end, the marketplace will decide. But in the meantime, all the constant bickering and ?who?s is bigger? argument is doing is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It?s just a hobby. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:08, EDPnJAX wrote: > > Let it go guys? ALL of you! > > This isn?t productive, in fact it?s destructive. The list isn?t meant for this junk. > >> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node >> >>> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >>> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >>> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. >> >> It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are >> a >> fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you >> are >> and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:50:28 -0500 From: "Mike Besemer" To: "'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'" Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <000f01d49d43$7cdb8d40$7692a7c0$@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" No... I've been ignoring this particular coward for a number of years and he still takes every opportunity to flame me, to include the registration of my callsign as a web domain with a redirect to a porn site. If he were half a man, he'd confront me directly, but he chooses to play silly little games like a 3 year-old. I've never done a thing to this man-child except to disagree with him and his attitude, but apparently that?s all it takes to send him into a tantrum. Frankly, I'm tired of his attitude, his mouth, and his existence as a 'source of knowledge' for this (and other) lists. I don't care how smart he is or how much he has contributed. He is a liability to ASL as long as his name is associated with it. It's hard to respect an organization who would allow someone like that to speak on their behalf. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of EDPnJAX Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:38 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node I have been, and just like most everything else in life? ignore it and when they don?t get anything in return they will eventually go away. Like a stray? keep feeding themguys and they?ll return. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:35 PM, David McGough wrote: > > > Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an > Internet Bully, you might feel differently. > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote: > >> Let it go guys?? ALL of you! > > This isn't??t productive, in fact it's??s destructive. The list isn't??t meant for this junk. > >> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node >> >> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >>> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >>> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. >> >> It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are >> a >> fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you >> are >> and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:52:12 -0500 From: "Mike Besemer" To: "'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'" Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <001001d49d43$bb2bb340$318319c0$@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does anything to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Willem Schreuder Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:45 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > So you've file a lawsuit? I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) for software. We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to do repeater linking. Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely available to others. So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software I wrote. We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:08:12 -0800 From: "cnovey" To: "'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'" Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <026801d49d45$f80e0680$e82a1380$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks for this Willem- well spoken. Clifford - KK6QMS -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Willem Schreuder Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 9:45 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > So you've file a lawsuit? I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) for software. We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to do repeater linking. Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely available to others. So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software I wrote. We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:10:05 -0700 (MST) From: Willem Schreuder To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does anything > to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. I cannot condone the name calling and ad hominem attacks. I understand the passion on both sides, and I agree it has gotten way out of hand. However, the point remains that the GPL is pretty black and white on the issue of releasing the source code, and it is up to all of us to point out when the GPL is being violated. I just wish we can do it in a civil manner, and not dismiss the whole issue because of personal animosity. ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:13:16 -0700 From: JJC To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Willem++ On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:10 AM Willem Schreuder wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > > > The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does > anything > > to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. > > I cannot condone the name calling and ad hominem attacks. I understand > the passion on both sides, and I agree it has gotten way out of hand. > > However, the point remains that the GPL is pretty black and white on the > issue of releasing the source code, and it is up to all of us to point out > when the GPL is being violated. > > I just wish we can do it in a civil manner, and not dismiss the whole > issue because of personal animosity. > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:11:39 -0500 From: "Bryan D. Boyle" To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <8EC62664-52E0-48A7-90D1-678CF51410E2 at bdboyle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" or ignore it and move on. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:52, Mike Besemer wrote: > > The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does anything > to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of Willem Schreuder > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:45 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? > > I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur > radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) > for software. > > We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of > spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must > promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when > there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, > WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does > the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. > > Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of > billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free > operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of > which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community > self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple > as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the > GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help > improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. > > Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, > but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things > you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. > Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to > The point is, Bryan loves to call people criminals but never does anything > to deal with those individuals. Put up or shut up. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On > Behalf Of Willem Schreuder > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:45 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? > > I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur > radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) > for software. > > We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of > spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must > promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when > there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, > WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does > the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. > > Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of > billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free > operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of > which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community > self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple > as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the > GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help > improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. > > Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, > but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things > you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. > Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to > do repeater linking. > > Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a > lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the > cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you > are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make > sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, > sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. > > In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. > We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that > we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely > available to others. > > So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to > make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source > model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many > others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software > available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process > I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as > well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software > I wrote. > > We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is > pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I > don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in > arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the > source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. > > -Willem > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:40:08 -0700 (MST) From: Willem Schreuder To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > or ignore it and move on. I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams run afoul of Part 97. If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, it does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by contributing software. If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. But let's be civil in how we go about it. ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:17:23 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Unfortunately, ignoring bullies rarely works. When bullies show up on the Internet and will NOT go away, this is Cyberstalking. And, yes, there are relatively new laws in the USA intended to address this. For a better description, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking This has gone on long enough, with a lot of different people. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote: > No... I've been ignoring this particular coward for a number of years and he still takes every opportunity to flame me, to include the registration of my callsign as a web domain with a redirect to a porn site. If he were half a man, he'd confront me directly, but he chooses to play silly little games like a 3 year-old. I've never done a thing to this man-child except to disagree with him and his attitude, but apparently that???s all it takes to send him into a tantrum. Frankly, I'm tired of his attitude, his mouth, and his existence as a 'source of knowledge' for this (and other) lists. I don't care how smart he is or how much he has contributed. He is a liability to ASL as long as his name is associated with it. It's hard to respect an organization who would allow someone like that to speak on their behalf. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of EDPnJAX Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:38 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node I have been, and just like most everything else in life??? ignore it and when they don???t get anything in return they will eventually go away. Like a stray??? keep feeding themguys and they???ll return. > On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:35 PM, David McGough wrote: > > > Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an > Internet Bully, you might feel differently. > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote: > >> Let it go guys????? ALL of you! > > This isn't??????t productive, in fact it's??????s destructive. The list isn't??????t meant for this junk. > >> On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer wrote: >> >> So you've file a lawsuit? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On >> Behalf Of Bryan Fields >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node >> >> On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: >>> W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full >>> of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. >> >> It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are >> a >> fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you >> are >> and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:57:47 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Larry, You didn't start it. It is time to find some answers though. This has gone on long enough. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, larry wrote: > Well I'm sorry I posted that! It wasn't meant to start a flame discussion. > > My point ----?? I was lead to believe the Allstar Lists were here to share and give pointers. Especially to those new to the hobby. If it is going to become a > place for everyone to keep bashing others for one reason or another? It serves no purpose and is detrimental to the hobby and should be trashed. > > I could care less about anyones personal feeling about any other individual. I subscribe to this list only for the helpful knowledge it can provide for > Allstar/Asterisk. > > Take the personal bickering and opinions elsewhere!!!! > > Larry - N7FM > > > On 12/26/18 12:33 AM, larry wrote: > Bryan, > > I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens > to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. > Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would > take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!!?? With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT > appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere? > > Larry - N7FM > > > On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: > However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF > radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes > also come with the HamVoip software. > > I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright > infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it. > > 73's > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the > page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list > detailing the problem. > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:08:54 -0700 From: "walter" To: Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" As a new ham to allstar I don?t think this is the place for this subject. I have learned a lot over the past two months. I finally got my node stable and working. I am now starting to build my second 900 mhz repeater with an allstar node. I look at this page for information not all the bickering. How about a second users group for the non technical stuff. Walt WB4LDS 49289 From: larry Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:52 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Well I'm sorry I posted that! It wasn't meant to start a flame discussion. My point ---- I was lead to believe the Allstar Lists were here to share and give pointers. Especially to those new to the hobby. If it is going to become a place for everyone to keep bashing others for one reason or another? It serves no purpose and is detrimental to the hobby and should be trashed. I could care less about anyones personal feeling about any other individual. I subscribe to this list only for the helpful knowledge it can provide for Allstar/Asterisk. Take the personal bickering and opinions elsewhere!!!! Larry - N7FM On 12/26/18 12:33 AM, larry wrote: Bryan, I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere? Larry - N7FM On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote: However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes also come with the HamVoip software. I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright infringement. 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URL: ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:23:23 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Willem, Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all are being used a pawns. There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will ("Intestate"). There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets listed at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this case number: 17STPB08347 When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This question has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No Answer. Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by W9CR (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only be initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by the owner?? Some other interesting facts include: How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, as of his untimely death?? They include: allstarlink.com allstarlink.net allstarlink.org bsdtelephony.net duuuude.com lambdatel.com ofaa.org zapatatelephony.com zapatatelephony.org Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. That also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the exhibits presented! Here is a link: https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-databa se Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless bull hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. Sincerely, 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > or ignore it and move on. > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams > run afoul of Part 97. > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, it > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > contributing software. > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:33:44 -0600 From: Andrew Sylthe To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" David, Everyone seems to be in agreement that open source is a good thing. Would you be willing to just address the entire list why you won't release the source? That's the only question I would have. Why the source that you've built upon is being kept under lock and key while it's being distributed... Thanks! On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM David McGough > > Willem, > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all are > being used a pawns. > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will ("Intestate"). > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets listed > at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to > the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this > case number: 17STPB08347 > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This question > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No > Answer. > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by W9CR > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only be > initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by the > owner?? > > Some other interesting facts include: > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, as of > his untimely death?? They include: > > allstarlink.com > allstarlink.net > allstarlink.org > bsdtelephony.net > duuuude.com > lambdatel.com > ofaa.org > zapatatelephony.com > zapatatelephony.org > > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. That > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 > > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the > word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the > exhibits presented! Here is a link: > > > https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-databa se > > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless bull > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. > > > > Sincerely, > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > > > or ignore it and move on. > > > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams > > run afoul of Part 97. > > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to > > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, > it > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > > contributing software. > > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > > > ================================================================ > > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:58:04 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2?? I've got to have this answered in a legally acceptable way (e.g.: notarized affidavit). Incidentally, ASL, Inc., *SHOULD* be very concerned about this, too. As of the last several months, I now have a secondary concern as well---W9CR's Cyber-hickery. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Andrew Sylthe wrote: > David, > > Everyone seems to be in agreement that open source is a good thing. Would > you be willing to just address the entire list why you won't release the > source? That's the only question I would have. Why the source that you've > built upon is being kept under lock and key while it's being distributed... > > Thanks! > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM David McGough > > > > > > Willem, > > > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few > > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all are > > being used a pawns. > > > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. > > > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will ("Intestate"). > > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no > > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets listed > > at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to > > the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 > > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this > > case number: 17STPB08347 > > > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This question > > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have > > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No > > Answer. > > > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. > > > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by W9CR > > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only be > > initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by the > > owner?? > > > > Some other interesting facts include: > > > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, as of > > his untimely death?? They include: > > > > allstarlink.com > > allstarlink.net > > allstarlink.org > > bsdtelephony.net > > duuuude.com > > lambdatel.com > > ofaa.org > > zapatatelephony.com > > zapatatelephony.org > > > > > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. That > > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: > > > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 > > > > > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the > > word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the > > exhibits presented! Here is a link: > > > > > > https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-databa se > > > > > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless bull > > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > > > > > or ignore it and move on. > > > > > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point > > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams > > > run afoul of Part 97. > > > > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to > > > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, > > it > > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > > > contributing software. > > > > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of > > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > > > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > > > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > > > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > > > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > > confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > > the list detailing the problem. > > > ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:23:55 -0800 From: David Shaw To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" LOL, I know Jim was thinking of putting a digital key in his code. So when the node registered or keyed up and linked to another node. It would show up as a ASL node and not some forked system. By the way. I love the armchair lawyer talk and gumshoe detective work. Start a new thread and keep it coming. Its funny stuff. Maybe we can get on Judge Judy. That would be great TV. -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:23 PM David McGough wrote: > > > Willem, > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all are > being used a pawns. > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will ("Intestate"). > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets listed > at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to > the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this > case number: 17STPB08347 > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This question > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No > Answer. > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by W9CR > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only be > initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by the > owner?? > > Some other interesting facts include: > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, as of > his untimely death?? They include: > > allstarlink.com > allstarlink.net > allstarlink.org > bsdtelephony.net > duuuude.com > lambdatel.com > ofaa.org > zapatatelephony.com > zapatatelephony.org > > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. That > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 > > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the > word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the > exhibits presented! Here is a link: > > > https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-databa se > > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless bull > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. > > > > Sincerely, > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > > > or ignore it and move on. > > > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to point > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where hams > > run afoul of Part 97. > > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice to > > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the GPL, > it > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > > contributing software. > > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance of > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > > > ================================================================ > > Dr. Willem A. 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URL: ------------------------------ Message: 28 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:38:12 -0600 From: Andrew Sylthe To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Wasn't all of the code held on Jim's SVN server? I'm guessing all the commits were time stamped. Wouldn't that answer when the first time the GPL blurb was included alongside the code? On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:58 PM David McGough > My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various > AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2?? > I've got to have this answered in a legally acceptable way (e.g.: > notarized affidavit). > > Incidentally, ASL, Inc., *SHOULD* be very concerned about this, too. > > As of the last several months, I now have a secondary concern as > well---W9CR's Cyber-hickery. > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Andrew Sylthe wrote: > > > David, > > > > Everyone seems to be in agreement that open source is a good thing. Would > > you be willing to just address the entire list why you won't release the > > source? That's the only question I would have. Why the source that you've > > built upon is being kept under lock and key while it's being > distributed... > > > > Thanks! > > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM David McGough > > > > > > > > > > Willem, > > > > > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few > > > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all > are > > > being used a pawns. > > > > > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people. > > > > > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will > ("Intestate"). > > > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no > > > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets > listed > > > at all. Look at these Court documents for yourself. This is a link to > > > the LA County Court website: https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100 > > > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this > > > case number: 17STPB08347 > > > > > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership?? This > question > > > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer. I have > > > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No > > > Answer. > > > > > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV. > > > > > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by > W9CR > > > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only > be > > > initiated by the copyright owner?? So far, I've not been contacted by > the > > > owner?? > > > > > > Some other interesting facts include: > > > > > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon, > as of > > > his untimely death?? They include: > > > > > > allstarlink.com > > > allstarlink.net > > > allstarlink.org > > > bsdtelephony.net > > > duuuude.com > > > lambdatel.com > > > ofaa.org > > > zapatatelephony.com > > > zapatatelephony.org > > > > > > > > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed. > That > > > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See: > > > > > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18 > > > > > > > > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the > > > word-mark "AllStar" ??? Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the > > > exhibits presented! Here is a link: > > > > > > > > > > https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-databa se > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless > bull > > > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: > > > > > > > > > or ignore it and move on. > > > > > > > > I have to respectfully disagree. We all have a responsibility to > point > > > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where > hams > > > > run afoul of Part 97. > > > > > > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice > to > > > > the ham community. Just so if we say that we don't care about the > GPL, > > > it > > > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by > > > > contributing software. > > > > > > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance > of > > > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions. > > > > > > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it. > > > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > > > > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > > > > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > > > > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > and > > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and > press > > > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > > > confirmation. 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URL: ------------------------------ Message: 29 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:45:29 -0500 From: jimmy keffer To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii all this junk is making me want 2 just the alstar system it's just sad being newer to this i only got to talk to jim dude once but i'm sure is turning over in his grave seeing this crap go om jimmy ka3vgm pa, ------------------------------ Message: 30 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:55:18 -0700 (MST) From: Willem Schreuder To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various > AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2? The beauty of the GPL is that it is largely irrelevant who the copyright holder is. If you hold a GPL copyright, the ONLY power you have is that you can ensure that the software remains open source. By using the GPL you explicitly allow ANYBODY to use, modify, redistribute or other make use of that code. The only restriction is that in turn, they also provide these modifications under the same terms. The GPL does not view the world as a zero sum game. It explicitly recognizes that when we get the best ideas from everybody, we are all better off. So anybody could fork the ASL codebase, make it better or worse or change it in any way that like. The ONLY requirement is that you MUST release the source. If the only leverage that people who mean HAMVOIP ill has is the GPL, then I would submit that you can undercut their ill intentions by releasing the source. Then you will have the high ground both legally and ethically. I would argue that the superior technology will win out, regardless of whether it is called AllStarLink or HAMVOIP or whatever name you choose. As long as you comply with the GPL, there is nothing anybody can do to prevent you from developing and expanding the technology. Furthermore, it give you the power to enforce compliance with the GPL for the components you contribute. And while it is undoubtedly true that other people will make use of the clever things you contributed, people will know where it was pioneered and others will be playing catchup as long as you keep improving your implementation. And there may be other clever things you could use and improve on that others may invent. I think I have made it clear that I am not naive about the political machinations and I certainly don't condone the underhanded things that have happened. However, I cannot condone violation of the GPL as an appropriate response. ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com ------------------------------ Message: 31 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 18:39:57 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII WHAT??? In the USA, copyright law is the ONLY thing that matters! Wow. So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof??? In the best case, it'll be innocent infringement and yes, you'll be settling in or out of court. Oh wait, I've been there. Got that tee shirt. Don't need another one. This is one reason why Digium requires a contributor agreement. When you sign that legal agreement, you state that the code you're providing is your own and not from any other sources. Why is my simple request an insurmountable issue?? Enough for today. Other fish to fry. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > > > My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various > > AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2? > > The beauty of the GPL is that it is largely irrelevant who the copyright > holder is. If you hold a GPL copyright, the ONLY power you have is that > you can ensure that the software remains open source. > > By using the GPL you explicitly allow ANYBODY to use, modify, redistribute > or other make use of that code. The only restriction is that in turn, > they also provide these modifications under the same terms. > > The GPL does not view the world as a zero sum game. It explicitly > recognizes that when we get the best ideas from everybody, we are all > better off. > > So anybody could fork the ASL codebase, make it better or worse or change > it in any way that like. The ONLY requirement is that you MUST release > the source. > > If the only leverage that people who mean HAMVOIP ill has is the GPL, then > I would submit that you can undercut their ill intentions by releasing the > source. Then you will have the high ground both legally and ethically. > > I would argue that the superior technology will win out, regardless of > whether it is called AllStarLink or HAMVOIP or whatever name you choose. > As long as you comply with the GPL, there is nothing anybody can do to > prevent you from developing and expanding the technology. Furthermore, it > give you the power to enforce compliance with the GPL for the components > you contribute. > > And while it is undoubtedly true that other people will make use of the > clever things you contributed, people will know where it was pioneered and > others will be playing catchup as long as you keep improving your > implementation. And there may be other clever things you could use and > improve on that others may invent. > > I think I have made it clear that I am not naive about the political > machinations and I certainly don't condone the underhanded things that > have happened. > > However, I cannot condone violation of the GPL as an appropriate response. > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > ------------------------------ Message: 32 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:50:45 -0800 From: Todd Lesser To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Unix Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know how to save the network configuration in Limey Linux? My node is currently set up as static IP and I want to change it to DHCP. I run net setup but when I reboot, it loses it all. I assume there is a command that will save it to flash memory. Does anyone know what that is? Thanks ------------------------------ Message: 33 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 18:56:57 -0500 From: Mike To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Unix Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I have not used Limey but, taking a guess, if it uses selinux enabled, you might want to turn it off while you make your changes, then turn it back on. There are command methods to push it through when on but you will have to search the web for it. Again, just a guess. Perhaps someone has a better answer. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/26/2018 6:50 PM, Todd Lesser wrote: > Does anyone know how to save the network configuration in Limey Linux? My node is currently set up as static IP and I want to change it to DHCP. > I run net setup but when I reboot, it loses it all. > I assume there is a command that will save it to flash memory. > > Does anyone know what that is? > > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 34 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:21:45 -0700 (MST) From: Willem Schreuder To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now > and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should > never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof? I'm not sure I understand the argument. Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because you are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL? In that case, are you not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and use it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not. The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the GPL that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as they see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the source. It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is. If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are quite right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code. I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com ------------------------------ Message: 35 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:06:17 -0800 From: Bob Pyke To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Modules.conf: autoload Message-ID: <5678ED8B-1FB7-4D6A-857B-FC279645589A at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 How does the ?autoload? command work in modules.conf, and when would want to say =yes, and =no? Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 ------------------------------ Message: 36 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:12:20 -0500 From: Mike To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Modules.conf: autoload Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Bob, Use this general Asterisk guide. https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Configuring+the+Asterisk+Module+L oader As far as what modules are needed for some functions... good luck we have no documentation that I know of. Much is obvious and self evident. If you have a issue on a function or particular module, ask the group. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/26/2018 8:06 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: > How does the ?autoload? command work in modules.conf, and when would want to say =yes, and =no? > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > 73 > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 37 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:14:14 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging: 1. A binary blob that can't be easily reverse engineered and can only be used in a very specific, limited scope way. 2. A source code file that once disclosed can be copied by anyone in the future, for ever more. Something like: void my_secret_spy_function() { // // patented or licensed algorithms // // } I would argue that #1 would be the least damaging to an unknown owner's intellectual property rights. At least an attempt has been made to limit the damage to any intellectual property, while waiting for the dust to clear. Twenty two months ago, I fully expected a new copyright owner to emerge, once Jim's Estate was settled---easing many of my concerns. Those were the claims being made at that time. Now, with the records of what has actually transpired, I really don't know what to think. It's pointless to argue semantics any further. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > > > So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now > > and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should > > never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof? > > I'm not sure I understand the argument. > > Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because you > are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL? In that case, are you > not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and use > it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not. > > The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the GPL > that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as they > see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the > source. > > It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable > argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent > infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is. > > If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are quite > right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code. > > I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following. > -Willem > > ================================================================ > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > ------------------------------ Message: 38 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 17:19:59 -0800 From: Bob Pyke To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Modules.conf: autoload Message-ID: <24F06174-0083-46D8-9FC0-E3E5DDACBF59 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Very good, thanks Mike. Bob K6ECM 73 > On Dec 26, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Mike wrote: > > Bob, > > Use this general Asterisk guide. > > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Configuring+the+Asterisk+Module+L oader > > As far as what modules are needed for some functions... good luck we have no documentation that I know of. > Much is obvious and self evident. > If you have a issue on a function or particular module, ask the group. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > >> On 12/26/2018 8:06 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: >> How does the ?autoload? command work in modules.conf, and when would want to say =yes, and =no? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> K6ECM >> 73 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 39 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 19:04:54 -0700 From: JJC To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <4DCF334E-CDD9-4CE1-882F-0536305F4355 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 So you are saying that you are attempting to protect Jim?s intellectual property in some way? That same intellectual property that was already released as opensource under the GPL? Incidentally, what you describe in #2 is precisely the spirit (and legal function) of the GPL to begin with. Sent from the iRoad > On Dec 26, 2018, at 18:14, David McGough wrote: > > > My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is > unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging: > > 1. A binary blob that can't be easily reverse engineered and can only be > used in a very specific, limited scope way. > > 2. A source code file that once disclosed can be copied by anyone > in the future, for ever more. Something like: > > void my_secret_spy_function() { > // > // patented or licensed algorithms > // > // > } > > > I would argue that #1 would be the least damaging to an unknown owner's > intellectual property rights. At least an attempt has been made to limit > the damage to any intellectual property, while waiting for the dust to > clear. > > Twenty two months ago, I fully expected a new copyright owner to emerge, > once Jim's Estate was settled---easing many of my concerns. Those were > the claims being made at that time. Now, with the records of what has > actually transpired, I really don't know what to think. > > > It's pointless to argue semantics any further. > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: >>> >>> So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now >>> and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should >>> never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof? >> >> I'm not sure I understand the argument. >> >> Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because you >> are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL? In that case, are you >> not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and use >> it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not. >> >> The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the GPL >> that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as they >> see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the >> source. >> >> It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable >> argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent >> infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is. >> >> If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are quite >> right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code. >> >> I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following. >> -Willem >> >> ================================================================ >> Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica >> Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA >> Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 >> WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 40 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 19:55:59 -0700 (MST) From: Willem Schreuder To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is > unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging: You omit the third and only responsible action if you believe that you are releasing private intellectual property not covered by the GPL: 3. Do not release anything at all. If you don't believe that you have the right to that intellectual property through the GPL, you have no business releasing it in any form whatsoever. This is why the GPL is so powerful. Once you release something under the GPL, you cannot take it back. That is why software companies have to be so careful taking contributions. The GPL is rather insidious, and I for one think that is a good thing. ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users ------------------------------ End of App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 25 ********************************************** From william-t2 at live.com Fri Dec 28 00:38:33 2018 From: william-t2 at live.com (william howell) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 00:38:33 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: <4DCF334E-CDD9-4CE1-882F-0536305F4355@gmail.com> References: , <4DCF334E-CDD9-4CE1-882F-0536305F4355@gmail.com> Message-ID: Wow, I leave for the holidays and come back to over what appears to be a hundred or so attacks, insults, threats of lawsuits, etc.... All this started just because I asked a question about sharing the source code and what the diff between the two modules and what have you are. Thank goodness I have all the knowledge and experiences I do with Asterisk Software there of. I'm also thankful I have over 30+ years in the two-way radio engineering, service/repair, and software development. Cause today I feel I no longer can be of use or want to be of use on this mailing list. Not that I had that much input as I was watching to see if I wanted to be part of this mailing list or not before I invested too much of my time for nothing more than this type of crap. That which I find happens in mailing list subs like this one. Maybe some day those of you that want to contiue slinging mud, calling people names and threats of lawsuits will get your crap together, learn to work together and realize you are only being destructive when you spew this crap in mailing list submissions like this one. It does no one any good and only makes quality people like myself want to leave and not look back. No doubt you asses will have something negitive to say about this email. Thank you for allowing me access to this email list, but I will be removing myself shortly. Have a great day, William R Howell, CEO Amphibicom, A Division of Amphibian Technologies & Solutions 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 Canton, Texas 75103 Office: 903-287-0069 Fax: 972-275-6069 Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for better communications within our communities thru clubs and social networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... ________________________________ From: App_rpt-users on behalf of JJC Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 9:04 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node So you are saying that you are attempting to protect Jim?s intellectual property in some way? That same intellectual property that was already released as opensource under the GPL? Incidentally, what you describe in #2 is precisely the spirit (and legal function) of the GPL to begin with. Sent from the iRoad > On Dec 26, 2018, at 18:14, David McGough wrote: > > > My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is > unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging: > > 1. A binary blob that can't be easily reverse engineered and can only be > used in a very specific, limited scope way. > > 2. A source code file that once disclosed can be copied by anyone > in the future, for ever more. Something like: > > void my_secret_spy_function() { > // > // patented or licensed algorithms > // > // > } > > > I would argue that #1 would be the least damaging to an unknown owner's > intellectual property rights. At least an attempt has been made to limit > the damage to any intellectual property, while waiting for the dust to > clear. > > Twenty two months ago, I fully expected a new copyright owner to emerge, > once Jim's Estate was settled---easing many of my concerns. Those were > the claims being made at that time. Now, with the records of what has > actually transpired, I really don't know what to think. > > > It's pointless to argue semantics any further. > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: >>> >>> So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now >>> and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should >>> never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof? >> >> I'm not sure I understand the argument. >> >> Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because you >> are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL? In that case, are you >> not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and use >> it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not. >> >> The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the GPL >> that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as they >> see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the >> source. >> >> It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable >> argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent >> infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is. >> >> If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are quite >> right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code. >> >> I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following. >> -Willem >> >> ================================================================ >> Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica >> Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA >> Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 >> WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 02:03:32 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 21:03:32 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node In-Reply-To: References: <4DCF334E-CDD9-4CE1-882F-0536305F4355@gmail.com> Message-ID: Am I the only one that feel like someone made a subcontract job then left? If it is not, I appologize. But damn it sure look like one! Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le jeu. 27 d?c. 2018 ? 19:38, william howell a ?crit : > Wow, I leave for the holidays and come back to over what appears to be a > hundred or so attacks, insults, threats of lawsuits, etc.... All this > started just because I asked a question about sharing the source code and > what the diff between the two modules and what have you are. > > Thank goodness I have all the knowledge and experiences I do with Asterisk > Software there of. I'm also thankful I have over 30+ years in the two-way > radio engineering, service/repair, and software development. Cause today I > feel I no longer can be of use or want to be of use on this mailing list. > Not that I had that much input as I was watching to see if I wanted to be > part of this mailing list or not before I invested too much of my time for > nothing more than this type of crap. That which I find happens in mailing > list subs like this one. > > Maybe some day those of you that want to contiue slinging mud, calling > people names and threats of lawsuits will get your crap together, learn to > work together and realize you are only being destructive when you spew this > crap in mailing list submissions like this one. It does no one any good and > only makes quality people like myself want to leave and not look back. No > doubt you asses will have something negitive to say about this email. > > > Thank you for allowing me access to this email list, but I will be > removing myself shortly. > > > > Have a great day, > > William R Howell, CEO > Amphibicom, A Division of > Amphibian Technologies & Solutions > 20587 State Highway 19 South Suite #13 > Canton, Texas 75103 > Office: 903-287-0069 > Fax: 972-275-6069 > > > Consulting, Sales and Services that specialize in the areas of wire & > wireless communications, EOC (Emergency Operations Center), PEOC (Portable > Emergency Operation Centers), Dispatch Consoles & Software, Central > Dispatch Communications Centers, and Call Center Equipment..... > Installation, Maintenance, and Management....... > > > Where Two-way Radios, Computers, Telephones, Telephone Land Lines, VOIP, > Hardware & Software all come together........ Working together to make for > better communications within our communities thru clubs and social > networking....... A place where Commercial, Public Safety, GMRS, Amateur, > Marine, Aircraft, and Military operators learn how to coexist together thru > shared communications....... If it can be done ---- we can do it..... > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* App_rpt-users on > behalf of JJC > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 26, 2018 9:04 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node > > So you are saying that you are attempting to protect Jim?s intellectual > property in some way? That same intellectual property that was already > released as opensource under the GPL? > > Incidentally, what you describe in #2 is precisely the spirit (and legal > function) of the GPL to begin with. > > Sent from the iRoad > > > On Dec 26, 2018, at 18:14, David McGough wrote: > > > > > > My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is > > unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging: > > > > 1. A binary blob that can't be easily reverse engineered and can only be > > used in a very specific, limited scope way. > > > > 2. A source code file that once disclosed can be copied by anyone > > in the future, for ever more. Something like: > > > > void my_secret_spy_function() { > > // > > // patented or licensed algorithms > > // > > // > > } > > > > > > I would argue that #1 would be the least damaging to an unknown owner's > > intellectual property rights. At least an attempt has been made to limit > > the damage to any intellectual property, while waiting for the dust to > > clear. > > > > Twenty two months ago, I fully expected a new copyright owner to emerge, > > once Jim's Estate was settled---easing many of my concerns. Those were > > the claims being made at that time. Now, with the records of what has > > actually transpired, I really don't know what to think. > > > > > > It's pointless to argue semantics any further. > > > > > > 73, David KB4FXC > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote: > >>> > >>> So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from > now > >>> and says: "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and > should > >>> never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof? > >> > >> I'm not sure I understand the argument. > >> > >> Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because > you > >> are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL? In that case, are > you > >> not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and > use > >> it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not. > >> > >> The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the > GPL > >> that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as > they > >> see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the > >> source. > >> > >> It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable > >> argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent > >> infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is. > >> > >> If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are > quite > >> right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code. > >> > >> I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following. > >> -Willem > >> > >> ================================================================ > >> Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica > >> Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA > >> Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 > >> WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> App_rpt-users mailing list > >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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When I add the radio=ic706 line and restart Asterisk I notice the heartbeat led locks solid and asterisk crashes when I connect to 1999. If I comment out that one line it works fine. I have set permissions to /dev/USB0. Any ideas? I have attached a PDF with my screenshots and node stanza. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > Rpi 3 Arch > > IC706MkIIG > > Hamvoip V 1.4rc5-14 > > Asterisk 1.3.23.pre.hamvoip-CV1.5.3-48-app_rpt-0.327-11 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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[xxxx] rxchannel = Zap/2 ; Rx audio/signalling channel remote = tm271 ; Enable to support Kenwood TMG-707 ioport=/dev/ttyUSB0 functions = remote-functions ; Remote function list statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 7:46 AM Bob Pyke wrote: > You are using hamvoip, and this list is for AllstarLink. There are some > folks who monitor both lists, but you are more apt to receive a useful > response from the other list. > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > 73 > > > On Dec 29, 2018, at 6:55 AM, m at palmers-family.com wrote: > > Hello everyone. After a couple years of playing with AllStar on RPI I > have finally dove into my remote base setup. I am using a Pi3 with a > IC706MKIIG, Prolific USB adapter (known working). When I add the > radio=ic706 line and restart Asterisk I notice the heartbeat led locks > solid and asterisk crashes when I connect to 1999. If I comment out that > one line it works fine. I have set permissions to /dev/USB0. Any ideas? I > have attached a PDF with my screenshots and node stanza. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > Rpi 3 Arch > > IC706MkIIG > > Hamvoip V 1.4rc5-14 > > Asterisk 1.3.23.pre.hamvoip-CV1.5.3-48-app_rpt-0.327-11 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Mon Dec 31 00:04:35 2018 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:04:35 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] allstar +irlp In-Reply-To: <6d3ba92b-36e9-a479-d16c-6e6fcc793a50@midnighteng.com> References: <6d3ba92b-36e9-a479-d16c-6e6fcc793a50@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: last i checked, dave cameron (who has not open-sourced IRLP, since it is the basis for a commercial product he sells...) does NOT want allstar interconnected to his network, and deletes the registrations of any non-irlp gateways he becomes aware of. He asked (demanded?) that Jim delete the code that enabled it back in ?10 or ?11, IIRC, so, unless things have changed on his side, it is not officially supported, and you are on your own (regardless of what other forked versions of allstar are doing). If you want the official answer, I?d suggest you contact the owner of the IRLP code for his take on interconnecting IRLP to other linking networks. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. > On Dec 30, 2018, at 18:43, Mike wrote: > > There use to be some how-2's on the web. > > I suggest you read all the IRLP rules before you do anything. > > > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > >> On 12/30/2018 5:06 PM, ea8ee wrote: >> I have an irlp node that I have not used for some time, I could add it to my allstar node and how? >> >> ea8ee movil >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Boyle wrote: > last i checked, dave cameron (who has not open-sourced IRLP, since it > is the basis for a commercial product he sells...) does NOT want > allstar interconnected to his network, and deletes the registrations > of any non-irlp gateways he becomes aware of. > > He asked (demanded?) that Jim delete the code that enabled it back in > ?10 or ?11, IIRC, so, unless things have changed on his side, it is > not officially supported, and you are on your own (regardless of what > other forked versions of allstar are doing). > > If you want the official answer, I?d suggest you contact the owner of > the IRLP code for his take on interconnecting IRLP to other linking > networks. > > -- > Bryan > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of > this message. > > > > On Dec 30, 2018, at 18:43, Mike > wrote: > >> There use to be some how-2's on the web. >> >> I suggest you read all the IRLP rules before you do anything. >> >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> >> On 12/30/2018 5:06 PM, ea8ee wrote: >>> I have an irlp node that I have not used for some time, I could add >>> it to my allstar node and how? >>> >>> ea8ee movil >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Boyle escribi?: > last i checked, dave cameron (who has not open-sourced IRLP, since it is > the basis for a commercial product he sells...) does NOT want allstar > interconnected to his network, and deletes the registrations of any > non-irlp gateways he becomes aware of. > > He asked (demanded?) that Jim delete the code that enabled it back in ?10 > or ?11, IIRC, so, unless things have changed on his side, it is not > officially supported, and you are on your own (regardless of what other > forked versions of allstar are doing). > > If you want the official answer, I?d suggest you contact the owner of the > IRLP code for his take on interconnecting IRLP to other linking networks. > > -- > Bryan > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this > message. > > > > On Dec 30, 2018, at 18:43, Mike wrote: > > There use to be some how-2's on the web. > > I suggest you read all the IRLP rules before you do anything. > > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 12/30/2018 5:06 PM, ea8ee wrote: > > I have an irlp node that I have not used for some time, I could add it to > my allstar node and how? > > ea8ee movil > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.orghttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Boyle escribi?: >> last i checked, dave cameron (who has not open-sourced IRLP, since it is the basis for a commercial product he sells...) does NOT want allstar interconnected to his network, and deletes the registrations of any non-irlp gateways he becomes aware of. >> >> He asked (demanded?) that Jim delete the code that enabled it back in ?10 or ?11, IIRC, so, unless things have changed on his side, it is not officially supported, and you are on your own (regardless of what other forked versions of allstar are doing). >> >> If you want the official answer, I?d suggest you contact the owner of the IRLP code for his take on interconnecting IRLP to other linking networks. >> >> -- >> Bryan >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. >> >> >> >>> On Dec 30, 2018, at 18:43, Mike wrote: >>> >>> There use to be some how-2's on the web. >>> >>> I suggest you read all the IRLP rules before you do anything. >>> >>> >>> >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 12/30/2018 5:06 PM, ea8ee wrote: >>>> I have an irlp node that I have not used for some time, I could add it to my allstar node and how? >>>> >>>> ea8ee movil >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Boyle > escribi?: > > last i checked, dave cameron (who has not open-sourced IRLP, since > it is the basis for a commercial product he sells...) does NOT > want allstar interconnected to his network, and deletes the > registrations of any non-irlp gateways he becomes aware of. > > He asked (demanded?) that Jim delete the code that enabled it back > in ?10 or ?11, IIRC, so, unless things have changed on his side, > it is not officially supported, and you are on your own > (regardless of what other forked versions of allstar are doing). > > If you want the official answer, I?d suggest you contact the owner > of the IRLP code for his take on interconnecting IRLP to other > linking networks. > > -- > Bryan > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending > of this message. > > > > On Dec 30, 2018, at 18:43, Mike > wrote: > >> There use to be some how-2's on the web. >> >> I suggest you read all the IRLP rules before you do anything. >> >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> >> On 12/30/2018 5:06 PM, ea8ee wrote: >>> I have an irlp node that I have not used for some time, I could >>> add it to my allstar node and how? >>> >>> ea8ee movil >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Then we can point you in the right direction. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/31/2018 12:01 PM, Corey wrote: > Can I use it on an existing Ubuntu 18.04 install or is the package > only intended for a Raspberry Pi install? > > > > Thanks, > Corey > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ars.w5omr at gmail.com Mon Dec 31 17:18:22 2018 From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (ARS W5OMR) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:18:22 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] apt-get install allstarlink In-Reply-To: <6f0399e0-282a-c5af-0837-483972b8794d@midnighteng.com> References: <6f0399e0-282a-c5af-0837-483972b8794d@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: Is there an rpm based installer for openSuSE? On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 11:16 Mike Guessing that 'IT' is a ASL install... > > There are different flavor packages. > > What is it that you have and want to put ASL on, hardware wise. > > Then we can point you in the right direction. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > On 12/31/2018 12:01 PM, Corey wrote: > > Can I use it on an existing Ubuntu 18.04 install or is the package only > intended for a Raspberry Pi install? > > > > Thanks, > Corey > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.orghttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Dec 31 17:27:23 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:27:23 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] apt-get install allstarlink In-Reply-To: References: <6f0399e0-282a-c5af-0837-483972b8794d@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <4bac56b1-8257-9d89-f966-c88e975c1174@midnighteng.com> Nothing I am aware of. Why not say what computer hardware you want to put it on so we can point you correctly to what is available ? or read it yourself. https://allstarlink.org/getstarted.html http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/ ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/31/2018 12:18 PM, ARS W5OMR wrote: > Is there an rpm based installer for openSuSE? > > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 11:16 Mike wrote: > > Guessing that 'IT' is a ASL install... > > There are different flavor packages. > > What is it that you have and want to put ASL on, hardware wise. > > Then we can point you in the right direction. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 12/31/2018 12:01 PM, Corey wrote: >> Can I use it on an existing Ubuntu 18.04 install or is the >> package only intended for a Raspberry Pi install? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Corey >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From gravesb at gmail.com Mon Dec 31 17:34:27 2018 From: gravesb at gmail.com (Brian G) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:34:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] apt-get install allstarlink In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ - See Q/A number 4 -- Brian - VA3DXV On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 12:01 PM Corey wrote: > Can I use it on an existing Ubuntu 18.04 install or is the package only > intended for a Raspberry Pi install? > > > > Thanks, > Corey > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Dec 31 17:53:18 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:53:18 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] apt-get install allstarlink In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The fastest and easiest method is to use the asl iso image install. It is a debian 9 install. If you want to use a existing ubuntu, I believe some have accomplished that, since ubuntu and debian are very close. But I would advise against it for your first install. There is a lot to take in and it makes it harder to hold your hand, so to speak. http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Intel-AMD/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20180417-amd64-i386-debian-stretch-netinst.readme http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Intel-AMD/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20180417-amd64-i386-debian-stretch-netinst.iso ...mike/kb8jnm You might be able On 12/31/2018 12:46 PM, Corey wrote: > Mike, > Sorry for the lack of information. I keep forgetting people can't read > my mind. > The software image currently loaded is Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. > The hardware is a no name Chinese mini ITX box quad core Intel(R) > Celeron(R) CPU J1900 @ 1.99GHz computer, 2 gig memory and 64 gig ssd. > It is going to be used for an ASL voter setup, LAMP server for > Allmon2, and team viewer. > 73 > Corey Badgley > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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We compile it and officially support debian, but let debian handle the distro work, they are much better at it than we can be. AllStar is now no different than mariadb/etc, we just have software that runs on top of a distro. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From marco.brunozzi at gmail.com Mon Dec 31 19:52:17 2018 From: marco.brunozzi at gmail.com (Marco Brunozzi) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 20:52:17 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] apt-get install allstarlink In-Reply-To: <4fb23d64-2c6b-99e8-9525-40a5966e8f4a@bryanfields.net> References: <4fb23d64-2c6b-99e8-9525-40a5966e8f4a@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: Hi, I tried... Hi, I'm trying to install asl from sources on my bananapi: Linux bananapim2plus 4.14.84-sunxi #3 SMP Sat Dec 1 07:18:41 CET 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux As explained here: https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ During the installation appear some errors here: /var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/make.log Especially this: make -C linux all make[1]: Entering directory '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux' make -C drivers/dahdi/firmware firmware-loaders make[2]: Entering directory '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux/drivers/dahdi/firmware' make[2]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux/drivers/dahdi/firmware' make -C /lib/modules/4.14.84-sunxi/build SUBDIRS=/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux/drivers/dahdi DAHDI_INCLUDE=/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux/include DAHDI_MODULES_EXTRA=" " HOTPLUG_FIRMWARE=yes modules DAHDI_BUILD_ALL=m make[2]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.14.84-sunxi' Makefile:644: arch/-a: No such file or directory Makefile:644: armhf/Makefile: No such file or directory make[2]: *** No rule to make target 'armhf/Makefile'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.14.84-sunxi' Makefile:74: recipe for target 'modules' failed make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux' Makefile:9: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 What can I do? Thanks, Marco IW0RED ------- But no one answered. :-) 73 Marco IW0RED On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 7:21 PM Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 12/31/18 12:34 PM, Brian G wrote: > > Yes, https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ - See Q/A number 4 > > Much love on this new years eve for those who RTFM. <3 > > Note, this needs to be Debian 9. While it's certainly possible it will work > on other debian based distros, all bets are off. If you want to run it on > something else, grab the src from github and make install. > > It's kinda the view development took was, it should run anywhere, so why > bother making a custom software distro. We compile it and officially support > debian, but let debian handle the distro work, they are much better at it than > we can be. AllStar is now no different than mariadb/etc, we just have > software that runs on top of a distro. > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Marco Brunozzi Tel. +14152360004 Cel. +393483343274 Skype: marco.brunozzi Twitter: marcobrunozzi --------------------------------------- From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Dec 31 21:14:28 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:14:28 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] apt-get install allstarlink In-Reply-To: References: <4fb23d64-2c6b-99e8-9525-40a5966e8f4a@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: <66f75835-fb06-d616-e80f-e55f94393d9a@midnighteng.com> I am fairly sure your kernel is past where asl will support sound as per our current standard. enhanced things | AllStar, Alsa & Pulseaudio without OSS You may need to re-compile the dahdi module ?? Never done it so can't say more but it's a lead to work from. ...mike/kb8jnm On 12/31/2018 2:52 PM, Marco Brunozzi wrote: > Hi, I tried... > > Hi, I'm trying to install asl from sources on my bananapi: > Linux bananapim2plus 4.14.84-sunxi #3 SMP Sat Dec 1 07:18:41 CET 2018 > armv7l GNU/Linux > > As explained here: > https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ > > During the installation appear some errors here: > /var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/make.log > > Especially this: > make -C linux all > make[1]: Entering directory '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux' > make -C drivers/dahdi/firmware firmware-loaders > make[2]: Entering directory > '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux/drivers/dahdi/firmware' > make[2]: Leaving directory > '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux/drivers/dahdi/firmware' > make -C /lib/modules/4.14.84-sunxi/build > SUBDIRS=/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux/drivers/dahdi > DAHDI_INCLUDE=/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux/include > DAHDI_MODULES_EXTRA=" " HOTPLUG_FIRMWARE=yes modules DAHDI_BUILD_ALL=m > make[2]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.14.84-sunxi' > Makefile:644: arch/-a: No such file or directory > Makefile:644: armhf/Makefile: No such file or directory > make[2]: *** No rule to make target 'armhf/Makefile'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.14.84-sunxi' > Makefile:74: recipe for target 'modules' failed > make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux' > Makefile:9: recipe for target 'all' failed > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > What can I do? > > Thanks, > Marco IW0RED > ------- > But no one answered. :-) > > 73 Marco IW0RED > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 7:21 PM Bryan Fields wrote: >> On 12/31/18 12:34 PM, Brian G wrote: >>> Yes, https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ - See Q/A number 4 >> Much love on this new years eve for those who RTFM. <3 >> >> Note, this needs to be Debian 9. While it's certainly possible it will work >> on other debian based distros, all bets are off. If you want to run it on >> something else, grab the src from github and make install. >> >> It's kinda the view development took was, it should run anywhere, so why >> bother making a custom software distro. We compile it and officially support >> debian, but let debian handle the distro work, they are much better at it than >> we can be. AllStar is now no different than mariadb/etc, we just have >> software that runs on top of a distro. >> >> 73's >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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Stop. >> make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.14.84-sunxi' >> Makefile:74: recipe for target 'modules' failed >> make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 >> make[1]: Leaving directory '/var/lib/dkms/asl-dahdi-linux/2.11.1/build/linux' >> Makefile:9: recipe for target 'all' failed >> make: *** [all] Error 2 >> >> What can I do? >> >> Thanks, >> Marco IW0RED >> ------- >> But no one answered. :-) >> >> 73 Marco IW0RED >> >> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 7:21 PM Bryan Fields wrote: >>> On 12/31/18 12:34 PM, Brian G wrote: >>>> Yes,https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ - See Q/A number 4 >>> Much love on this new years eve for those who RTFM. <3 >>> >>> Note, this needs to be Debian 9. While it's certainly possible it will work >>> on other debian based distros, all bets are off. If you want to run it on >>> something else, grab the src from github and make install. >>> >>> It's kinda the view development took was, it should run anywhere, so why >>> bother making a custom software distro. We compile it and officially support >>> debian, but let debian handle the distro work, they are much better at it than >>> we can be. AllStar is now no different than mariadb/etc, we just have >>> software that runs on top of a distro. >>> >>> 73's >>> -- >>> Bryan Fields >>> >>> 727-409-1194 - Voice >>> http://bryanfields.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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