[App_rpt-users] Node Type

Wed May 16 19:37:05 UTC 2018

One thing the USBradio needs to act as a COS or decode CTCSS is access 
to unfiltered audio from the receiver. In the case of the Boefeng, you 
do not have access to that unfiltered audio. The receive audio you are 
picking off is already filtered (deemphasized) so you can not use the 
COS or CTCSS feature of USBradio.

Steve N4IRS

On 5/16/2018 3:32 PM, KD2NFC, Joe Puma wrote:
> Steve what method do you think is more reliable, simple usb or usb audio? Allowing the radio to do CTCSS or Usb driver?  I like the idea that when the radio is doing ctcss and on baofeng that means there’s no power to the audio op amp until it detects ctcss vs leaving the squelch open on radio and the op amp always on. What would you think is best in regards to response time also.
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>> On May 16, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
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>> Sorry, I forgot that one:
>> A URI, USB FOB, RA-42 and others are all USB radio interfaces.
>> Beagle NHRC are host specific Radio interfaces. Just forget NHRC and Dingotel
>>
>> USBradio and simpleUSB are the 2 methods of utilizing those USB interfaces. SimpleUSB is just that, simple. It uses GPIO pins on the audio device for signaling (COS, CTCSS and PTT) It also connects the RX and TX audio from radio. In the case of CTCSS, a CTCSS decoder is required to signal the receipt of a CTCSS encoded RF signal.
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>> USBRadio can generate and decode CTCSS without external hardware. It can also operate as the COS. In this case only TX audio, RX audio and PTT are required to be connected to the radio.
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>> 73, Steve N4IRS
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>>> On 5/16/2018 3:02 PM, mwbesemer at cox.net wrote:
>>> Exactly the opposite.  I want it to be be visible and clearly show that it is connected to a repeater (via an RF link) and NOT just some local ham's radio attached to a 5/8 wave Hustler for his personal use around the house.
>>>
>>> I'm learning and asking questions now, BEFORE I paint myself into a corner.  Steve gave me what I needed.  I'll admit up front, I'm an electronics guy, not a programmer.  I had a career in electronics and know what I'm doing there.  The rest of this is kinda new to me, and I believe in doing stuff once - and doing it right.
>>>
>>> Still unanswered is my question about Interface Type and Variety.
>>>
>>> "And while I'm at it, what about Interface Type (usbradio, simpleusb, or beagle) and Interface Variety (URI or USB FOB, NHRC, or Dingotel).  I'll be using one of Kevin Custers RA-42's."
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> WM4B
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>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Mike wrote:
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>>>> Perhaps what you are really looking for is the method to mask it showing publicly as a resource.
>>>>
>>>> More like a private node ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I think now that is what you were asking or need. Perhaps I am wrong.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm
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>>>>> On 5/16/2018 2:22 PM, mwbesemer at cox.net wrote:
>>>>> Answered below... it is NOT frequency agile... that's a no brainer for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> But... it's not a repeater either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes... it's simplex, but it is not intended for other hams to work into the repeater through it; it's only there to connect the node to the repeater.  If I list it as a simplex node, then nobody on the far-side will know that it's connected to a repeater - they'll just assume it spews out RF into a small, local area.
>>>>>
>>>>> In setting up the node on the website, there are separate selections for 'Remote Base' and 'Frequency Agile'.  If you're saying I should NOT set it up as a non-frequency agile remote base, please explain why.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'm hung up on the definition of 'repeater' and 'remote base'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> WM4B
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Mike wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was pretty sure of why you were asking but carefull if you were not providing all the info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's about the radio attached to the node.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can it change freq - Y , then it is freq agile
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                 - N then is it simplex or a repeater
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so if I connect to your node, what radio am I going to get ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/16/2018 2:05 PM, mwbesemer at cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>> Perhaps a better way to phrase my question would be:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When setting up the Radio Configuration for the node (on allstarlink.org), what is the node type?  My choices are Repeater (full duplex), Simplex, Simplex with CT, or Remote Base.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My thought process would be that 'Repeater' would be used if the node was physically attached to the repeater (through the controller), Simplex would be used to allow local stations to access ASL via RF, and that Remote Base is used to link the node to a repeater via RF (which is what I'm doing).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I all wet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And while I'm at it, what about Interface Type (usbradio, simpleusb, or beagle) and Interface Variety (URI or USB FOB, NHRC, or Dingotel).  I'll be using one of Kevin Custers RA-42's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tnx,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike - WM4B
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:44 PM, mwbesemer at cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "links to the repeater only via the repeater input/output"... so no.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> WM4B
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Mike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you change the freq of operation of the radio attached by command 'within/though" this node # ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...is the answer to your question. location does not matter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/2018 12:54 PM, mwbesemer at cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If a node is established at a location different from that of the repeater and links to the repeater only via the repeater input/output, would it be considered a non-frequency agile remote-base?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>> WM4B
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