From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 03:23:48 2018
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:23:48 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asl-menu to set root password
Message-ID: <E15E3A5F-49BC-4BBF-8BE8-7CB59A9E06E3@gmail.com>

I?m missing something... I go through the first time, and other menus, thinking I?ve set a root password... no success. Sigh!

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from iPad



From mm at midnighteng.com  Mon Oct  1 03:42:52 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 23:42:52 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asl-menu to set root password
In-Reply-To: <E15E3A5F-49BC-4BBF-8BE8-7CB59A9E06E3@gmail.com>
References: <E15E3A5F-49BC-4BBF-8BE8-7CB59A9E06E3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <af63afbd-d387-56bf-9c6a-b3d7a178e3b7@midnighteng.com>

sudo passwd root

Watch as you will probably be entering your sudo user password before 
entering the root setting password. Pay attention to the prompts.

...mike/kb8jnm

On 9/30/2018 11:23 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:
> I?m missing something... I go through the first time, and other menus, thinking I?ve set a root password... no success. Sigh!
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
> K6ECM
> 
> Sent from iPad
> 
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 04:01:37 2018
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 21:01:37 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asl-menu to set root password
In-Reply-To: <af63afbd-d387-56bf-9c6a-b3d7a178e3b7@midnighteng.com>
References: <E15E3A5F-49BC-4BBF-8BE8-7CB59A9E06E3@gmail.com>
 <af63afbd-d387-56bf-9c6a-b3d7a178e3b7@midnighteng.com>
Message-ID: <BB20FD02-CD76-4821-8B59-F00FB317E981@gmail.com>

Thanks Mike... figured it out. I needed to change sshd_config

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from iPad


> On Sep 30, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
> 
> sudo passwd root
> 
> Watch as you will probably be entering your sudo user password before entering the root setting password. Pay attention to the prompts.
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
>> On 9/30/2018 11:23 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:
>> I?m missing something... I go through the first time, and other menus, thinking I?ve set a root password... no success. Sigh!
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> K6ECM
>> Sent from iPad
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From mm at midnighteng.com  Mon Oct  1 04:05:55 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 00:05:55 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asl-menu to set root password
In-Reply-To: <BB20FD02-CD76-4821-8B59-F00FB317E981@gmail.com>
References: <E15E3A5F-49BC-4BBF-8BE8-7CB59A9E06E3@gmail.com>
 <af63afbd-d387-56bf-9c6a-b3d7a178e3b7@midnighteng.com>
 <BB20FD02-CD76-4821-8B59-F00FB317E981@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d666be85-2282-2bbc-3e42-f42a71b427b4@midnighteng.com>

Well, you did not say you were trying to SSH or I would have give you 
that ...LOL...
Yea, the ASL menu does not show buttons at the bottom for me and I 
thought that was what you were having issue with.

Be sure to change that ssh port in that file and restart the ssh 
service. Add that new port to the firewall config.

...mike/kb8jnm

On 10/1/2018 12:01 AM, Bob Pyke wrote:
> Thanks Mike... figured it out. I needed to change sshd_config
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
> K6ECM
> 
> Sent from iPad
> 
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
>>
>> sudo passwd root
>>
>> Watch as you will probably be entering your sudo user password before entering the root setting password. Pay attention to the prompts.
>>
>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>
>>> On 9/30/2018 11:23 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:
>>> I?m missing something... I go through the first time, and other menus, thinking I?ve set a root password... no success. Sigh!
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>>> K6ECM
>>> Sent from iPad
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 04:53:34 2018
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 21:53:34 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Asl-menu to set root password
In-Reply-To: <d666be85-2282-2bbc-3e42-f42a71b427b4@midnighteng.com>
References: <E15E3A5F-49BC-4BBF-8BE8-7CB59A9E06E3@gmail.com>
 <af63afbd-d387-56bf-9c6a-b3d7a178e3b7@midnighteng.com>
 <BB20FD02-CD76-4821-8B59-F00FB317E981@gmail.com>
 <d666be85-2282-2bbc-3e42-f42a71b427b4@midnighteng.com>
Message-ID: <1FAC2737-0EF9-47AE-93BD-3E33A091244C@gmail.com>

Thanks much... sometimes I don?t ask the question completely (sigh! :-)

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from iPad


> On Sep 30, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, you did not say you were trying to SSH or I would have give you that ...LOL...
> Yea, the ASL menu does not show buttons at the bottom for me and I thought that was what you were having issue with.
> 
> Be sure to change that ssh port in that file and restart the ssh service. Add that new port to the firewall config.
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
>> On 10/1/2018 12:01 AM, Bob Pyke wrote:
>> Thanks Mike... figured it out. I needed to change sshd_config
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> K6ECM
>> Sent from iPad
>>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> sudo passwd root
>>> 
>>> Watch as you will probably be entering your sudo user password before entering the root setting password. Pay attention to the prompts.
>>> 
>>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>> 
>>>> On 9/30/2018 11:23 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:
>>>> I?m missing something... I go through the first time, and other menus, thinking I?ve set a root password... no success. Sigh!
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob
>>>> K6ECM
>>>> Sent from iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From monty at ke7jvx.com  Mon Oct  1 19:54:18 2018
From: monty at ke7jvx.com (Monty)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 12:54:18 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Quad PCI Radio Card on DIAL
In-Reply-To: <CAN3ondsjoRqzCZRuF5b_1OQTA05gZW=fJzwrAHatO4KrS7p+YQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN3ondsjoRqzCZRuF5b_1OQTA05gZW=fJzwrAHatO4KrS7p+YQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN3onduLXhvx2F6AC=xAGi0sMgamGOWH0tM+prRRqJ1dEhV2tw@mail.gmail.com>

Still having issues.  Can anyone shed some light on this?

Thanks,
Monty


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:12 PM Monty <monty at ke7jvx.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Does anyone have complete steps to load a Quad PCI card in from a freshly
> installed DIAL on the current ISO?  I'm migrating from ACID to DIAL.
>
> Here's what I have so far:
>
>    1. modprobe pciradio
>    2. Converted zaptel.conf to /etc/dahdi/system.conf
>    3. Copied zapata.conf from ACID machine to DIAL.
>    4. dahdi_cfg -vv
>    5. Copied rpt.conf and updated rxchannel= from zap/ to dahdi/
>    6. Copied extensions.conf and iax.conf from ACID.
>
> Anything I'm missing?
>
>
> Monty
>
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Mon Oct  1 20:48:13 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:48:13 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Quad PCI Radio Card on DIAL
In-Reply-To: <CAN3ondsjoRqzCZRuF5b_1OQTA05gZW=fJzwrAHatO4KrS7p+YQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN3ondsjoRqzCZRuF5b_1OQTA05gZW=fJzwrAHatO4KrS7p+YQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1dd2dc3c-239b-3a5d-c2c6-1c23d115c046@bryanfields.net>

On 9/26/18 1:12 AM, Monty wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Does anyone have complete steps to load a Quad PCI card in from a freshly
> installed DIAL on the current ISO?  I'm migrating from ACID to DIAL.
> 
> Here's what I have so far:
> 
>    1. modprobe pciradio
>    2. Converted zaptel.conf to /etc/dahdi/system.conf
>    3. Copied zapata.conf from ACID machine to DIAL.
>    4. dahdi_cfg -vv
>    5. Copied rpt.conf and updated rxchannel= from zap/ to dahdi/
>    6. Copied extensions.conf and iax.conf from ACID.
> 
> Anything I'm missing?

Looks good, but zapata.conf will be dahdi.conf.  What

I use this for rxchannel:
rxchannel = DAHDI/1

What errors do you get?
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From monty at ke7jvx.com  Tue Oct  2 03:24:48 2018
From: monty at ke7jvx.com (Monty)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 20:24:48 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Quad PCI Radio Card on DIAL
In-Reply-To: <1dd2dc3c-239b-3a5d-c2c6-1c23d115c046@bryanfields.net>
References: <CAN3ondsjoRqzCZRuF5b_1OQTA05gZW=fJzwrAHatO4KrS7p+YQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <1dd2dc3c-239b-3a5d-c2c6-1c23d115c046@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CAN3ondvs6jp9MNUzO5MwrnpsscM7AMTNr4oi9HRx1_kO2sfj+g@mail.gmail.com>

Got it!  Thanks Bryan.

Here's the updated list:

   1. modprobe pciradio
   2. Renamed zaptel.conf to /etc/dahdi/system.conf
   3. Renamed zapata.conf to /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf
   4. dahdi_cfg -vv
   5. Copy rpt.conf and updated rxchannel= from zap/ to DAHDI/
   6. Copy extensions.conf and iax.conf from ACID.


Monty


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:48 PM Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

> On 9/26/18 1:12 AM, Monty wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Does anyone have complete steps to load a Quad PCI card in from a freshly
> > installed DIAL on the current ISO?  I'm migrating from ACID to DIAL.
> >
> > Here's what I have so far:
> >
> >    1. modprobe pciradio
> >    2. Converted zaptel.conf to /etc/dahdi/system.conf
> >    3. Copied zapata.conf from ACID machine to DIAL.
> >    4. dahdi_cfg -vv
> >    5. Copied rpt.conf and updated rxchannel= from zap/ to dahdi/
> >    6. Copied extensions.conf and iax.conf from ACID.
> >
> > Anything I'm missing?
>
> Looks good, but zapata.conf will be dahdi.conf.  What
>
> I use this for rxchannel:
> rxchannel = DAHDI/1
>
> What errors do you get?
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
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From k6ecm1 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 10:28:04 2018
From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 03:28:04 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] rxvoiceadj
Message-ID: <E2A1D57A-0F9C-4F6C-A39D-0D1C4C0F8DB9@gmail.com>

What is the max value of rxvoiceadj, and what are its units of gain (linear multiplier or dB)?

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from iPad



From ve2ckn2 at hotmail.fr  Wed Oct  3 16:36:02 2018
From: ve2ckn2 at hotmail.fr (Gervais Fillion)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 16:36:02 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 113, Issue 25
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1532707201.16282.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
References: <mailman.1.1532707201.16282.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
Message-ID: <BN6PR2201MB1298B944F4C6B7AC52B29F46CFE90@BN6PR2201MB1298.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Pierre,ve2pf.

peut tu m ecrire personnel svp?

pierre can you contact me privately please, at

ve2ckn2 at hotmail.fr


thanks folks ,
i need too talk at Pierre


73
gervais
ve2ckn

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Today's Topics:

   1. IAXRPT Macros (Mike Besemer)
   2. Re: Back up Asterisk (Pierre Martel)
   3. Re: Back up Asterisk (Justin Harris)
   4. Re: Private Node - Connection Failed - Clarification
      (Jim Aspinwall No1PC)
   5. Re: Private Node - Connection Failed - Clarification
      (Bryan Fields)
   6. Re: Private Node - Connection Failed - Clarification
      (David KE6UPI)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 18:14:26 -0400
From: "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer at cox.net>
To: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] IAXRPT Macros
Message-ID: <001701d4252e$04927f20$0db77d60$@cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Greetings all,

Is it possible to reprogram the macros and macro labels on the Android
version of IAXRPT?  I've mucked about with it but it eludes me.

Mike
WM4B


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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:06:54 -0400
From: Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com>
To: APP RPT <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Back up Asterisk
Message-ID:
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Hi Luc, ici Pierre VE2PF.

Peut tu me dire quel sont tes r?p?teurs qui sont sous Asterisk en priv??

Merci!



Le jeu. 26 juil. 2018 ? 00:50, Luc Drolet VE2LUQ <ldrolet at cgocable.ca> a
?crit :

> Hello Tim,
>
>
> OK, thank you there I understand a little better, it means with a private
> NODE that is not registered on Allstar Link, can not do backup
> so I have to do them manually
>
> Thank you I understand better
> Have a good day
>
> Luc
> VE2LUQ
>
>
>
> Le 25 juill. 2018 ? 23:27, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>
> It's unlikely you'll need to cron backups as the config files seldom
> change. Once you set up you node and back it up, you'll only need to
> subsequently backup as you make changes to your config.
>
> The node number you show 1415 is a private node number. The back up script
> cannot login in with that node number. You must use a registered node and
> it's issued password to use the backup server. However, if you have a
> registered node on that server and you set your backup configuration file
> to use that node, the backup script will back all nodes (including private
> ones) on that server.
>
> The file name you have chosen for you backup configuration will not work.
> The name must be savenode.conf. I refer you to the backup documentation on
> our WiKi at https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Backup
>
> If you're not all that hot about using the Linux command line, or you
> don't have a public node, you can simply copy all the files in
> /etc/asterisk to a safe place on your hard drive with winscp. That makes a
> perfectly adequate backup of your node(s). Also be sure to look at the
> asl-menu built into ASL 1.01.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 7:08 AM Luc Drolet VE2LUQ <ldrolet at cgocable.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for your help '
>>
>> OK if I understand correctly.
>> I use WINSCP and in etc / asterisk
>> I created a new file using the right clik
>> thereafter I past the info into this file which I added?
>> NODE=1415
>> PASSWORD=club
>> ENABLE=1
>> "And save"
>>
>> Now how can I do it with Cron job?
>> always with WINSCP I'm going to the var / spool / cron files
>> now how do I do the automatic execution of the backup?
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your help to you all
>> Grately appreciated
>>
>> 73?s
>> Luc Drolet
>> VE2LUQ
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 25 juill. 2018 ? 00:17, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>
>> There is a backup system in app_rpt. It's documented at
>> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Backup
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 6:45 PM Luc Drolet VE2LUQ <ldrolet at cgocable.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I want to make backups for my allstar system
>>> I have several private repeaters on several mountains
>>> Is there a way to do remote backup backup( from a distance) "maybe in
>>> SSH mode"
>>> can we make a backup every week? Which method should I use?
>>>
>>> 5 NODES private
>>> Thank you for your help to you all
>>>
>>> Luc Drolet
>>> VE2LUQ
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:19:33 -0700
From: Justin Harris <justin at suid.net>
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Back up Asterisk
Message-ID: <AFC008A8-5AF9-4BC5-BA21-AE7A0860FF97 at suid.net>
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Although this solution is a bit techie, I don?t think it was suggested. If you?d like though you can use Git. I think this is very appropriate for Allstar as you can version your configs, see what changes you?ve made, revert to previous configs and even create a new branch to try some new configs without messing with your production configs. You can even sign up a free bitbucket account and and store your repo there. It?ll take a little bit of effort to learn but it?s not impossible and you can use it for other things too.

https://git-scm.com/downloads
https://bitbucket.org/

Take care,
Justin KG7FKJ

> On Jul 24, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Luc Drolet VE2LUQ <ldrolet at cgocable.ca> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I want to make backups for my allstar system
> I have several private repeaters on several mountains
> Is there a way to do remote backup backup( from a distance) "maybe in SSH mode"
> can we make a backup every week? Which method should I use?
>
> 5 NODES private
> Thank you for your help to you all
>
> Luc Drolet
> VE2LUQ
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 02:02:50 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jim Aspinwall No1PC <no1pc at yahoo.com>
To: "app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org"
        <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Private Node - Connection Failed -
        Clarification
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I got private to private worked out... thanks!!

Before I get myself in too much more trouble with this...
- is it possible for a Public node to also be a private node?? Say I have Public node 43039 (I do) and it works connecting to and accepting connections among other Public nodes. One and only one radio interface.? Can I also make it a private node, for example 1001, and able to accept or initiate connects with another known private node?

Somehow I came to believe this is possible... but it could have been the tacos and creme soda messing with me...?

Perhaps differently - creating a radio-less 'hub' that could 'bridge' public and private?

Only one node can be associated with the 'chan_ ..." interface on the same server - yes?? no?

I'm trying to reduce the footprint (rack and tower space, power suck, etc.) of a multi-site RF-linked system down to repeater + node at each site.? Not every site needs to be publicly addressable/connectable - as you can imagine the feedback mess if someone ignorant the construct started re-connecting different sites together making a gnarly set of loops.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:06:13 -0400
From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Private Node - Connection Failed -
        Clarification
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On 7/26/18 10:02 PM, Jim Aspinwall No1PC wrote:
> Say I have Public node 43039 (I do) and it works connecting to and
> accepting connections among other Public nodes. One and only one radio
> interface.  Can I also make it a private node, for example 1001, and able
> to accept or initiate connects with another known private node?

Jim, if you want a node that private nodes can connect to, but also
AllStarLink nodes can connect to it too, the easiest way to to make this node
a public node number.

You define your private nodes on it and also define it on your private nodes.
This way you'd have say private node 1004 connecting to public node 40821.
Perfectly legal and easy to make play nice.

--
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:06:05 -0700
From: David KE6UPI <dshaw at ke6upi.com>
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Private Node - Connection Failed -
        Clarification
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More or less you are looking for a gateway to the public side of
AllStarLink. Any type of node would work on the public node. i.e. hub or
radio interface. The private node could connect to your public node. Then
the private node would have to pass commands to your public node to get
pass it. i.e node 1001 wants to connect to 2000. it would connect to your
public node first then pass commands to connect to 2000.

Too answer your question about multiple node numbers on a single interface.
No, I don't remember more then one node number per interface.

Sounds like you are looking for a simple way to register your private nodes
for your network. Making your own registration server wouldn't be too hard.
Re-configuring your private nodes would be more work then making one file
and coping to each private node. I can't remember if #includeifexists
statement works with the rpt.conf file. But you could add a small script to
download a private node list and restart asterisk.


You could also make them all public nodes and try blacklist and whitelist.

https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Blacklist_or_whitelist

David
KE6UPI

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

> On 7/26/18 10:02 PM, Jim Aspinwall No1PC wrote:
> > Say I have Public node 43039 (I do) and it works connecting to and
> > accepting connections among other Public nodes. One and only one radio
> > interface.  Can I also make it a private node, for example 1001, and able
> > to accept or initiate connects with another known private node?
>
> Jim, if you want a node that private nodes can connect to, but also
> AllStarLink nodes can connect to it too, the easiest way to to make this
> node
> a public node number.
>
> You define your private nodes on it and also define it on your private
> nodes.
> This way you'd have say private node 1004 connecting to public node 40821.
> Perfectly legal and easy to make play nice.
>
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:56:23 -0700
From: Bob Pyke <k6ecm1 at gmail.com>
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Private Node - Connection Failed -
        Clarification
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Private nodes are unregistered, and do not show up in the RPT external nodes list, hence there is no way for them to discover other nodes or they them unless the path to the other nodes are recorded in each node?s rpt.conf [nodes] stanza, for each node pairs, public and private that are intended for connection.

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from iPad


> On Jul 27, 2018, at 8:06 AM, David KE6UPI <dshaw at ke6upi.com> wrote:
>
> More or less you are looking for a gateway to the public side of AllStarLink. Any type of node would work on the public node. i.e. hub or radio interface. The private node could connect to your public node. Then the private node would have to pass commands to your public node to get pass it. i.e node 1001 wants to connect to 2000. it would connect to your public node first then pass commands to connect to 2000.
>
> Too answer your question about multiple node numbers on a single interface. No, I don't remember more then one node number per interface.
>
> Sounds like you are looking for a simple way to register your private nodes for your network. Making your own registration server wouldn't be too hard. Re-configuring your private nodes would be more work then making one file and coping to each private node. I can't remember if #includeifexists statement works with the rpt.conf file. But you could add a small script to download a private node list and restart asterisk.
>
>
> You could also make them all public nodes and try blacklist and whitelist.
>
> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/Blacklist_or_whitelist
>
> David
> KE6UPI
>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>> On 7/26/18 10:02 PM, Jim Aspinwall No1PC wrote:
>> > Say I have Public node 43039 (I do) and it works connecting to and
>> > accepting connections among other Public nodes. One and only one radio
>> > interface.  Can I also make it a private node, for example 1001, and able
>> > to accept or initiate connects with another known private node?
>>
>> Jim, if you want a node that private nodes can connect to, but also
>> AllStarLink nodes can connect to it too, the easiest way to to make this node
>> a public node number.
>>
>> You define your private nodes on it and also define it on your private nodes.
>> This way you'd have say private node 1004 connecting to public node 40821.
>> Perfectly legal and easy to make play nice.
>>
>> --
>> Bryan Fields
>>
>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> http://bryanfields.net
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From tgundo2003 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  9 05:07:37 2018
From: tgundo2003 at yahoo.com (TGundo 2003)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 05:07:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Switching Hardware on a Pi
References: <216122830.6707054.1539061657516.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <216122830.6707054.1539061657516@mail.yahoo.com>

Is there something special that needs to be done when switching audio FOB's on a Pi?
I had a RIM-7330 with an intermittent USB jack. Received a replacement, swapped it in, everything works except TX audio (from the radio into the RIM, more likely it's not reacting to the PTT logic). When I put the old one back in it worked fine (other than having to hold the USB jack just right). Put the new one back on still no luck.
Scott at RB (Who probably thinks I am crazy at this point) was kind enough to send me another RIM-7330 as well as a RIM-Lite. Put the next RIM-7330 in, same issue! Tonight I made up the cable to try the RIM-Lite, Same issue again!
I've tried 5 different USB cables, rebooted many times, every basic thing I can think of. It's like it does not want to recognize the PTT output as COS on the RIM. The PTT logic is working on the controller, even tried another port. Strange thing is it will occasionally work, no rhyme or reason, and can quit working mid-sentence.
Is there somewhere in the config I need to clear the old RIM out of the file? Is it done by a device ID somewhere??
ThanksTomW9SRV
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From edbathgate at zoominternet.net  Wed Oct 10 02:25:09 2018
From: edbathgate at zoominternet.net (Edbathgate)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:25:09 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New install x86, commands missing
Message-ID: <90AF43C9-669C-4BE9-974D-A10E4125E997@zoominternet.net>

Hi folks.   I did a new install this afternoon of ASL with the 20180417 iso.   It installed a nice debian stretch OS with pieces of asterisk,  but none of the menu commands work, nor shell scripts: like astdn.sh,  nor service asterisk status...  the commands are unrecognised.

I'm logged in locally on server console as user 'repeater'.

I did  ps -aux | grep "asterisk"  and it does show that asterisk is running.

I suspect a path issue, did a "set" command and it scrolled several pages that look like python script.

Looked over the faq and troubleshooting pages on wiki, did not enlighten.  

Is there an erratta for this ISO, or am I just doing something really dumb?

Please advise.  Ed N3SDO




From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 10 02:37:20 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 22:37:20 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New install x86, commands missing
In-Reply-To: <90AF43C9-669C-4BE9-974D-A10E4125E997@zoominternet.net>
References: <90AF43C9-669C-4BE9-974D-A10E4125E997@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <fd955eba-5ade-37eb-7fe7-a34e31b9dbde@bryanfields.net>

On 10/9/18 10:25 PM, Edbathgate wrote:
> Hi folks.   I did a new install this afternoon of ASL with the 20180417
> iso.   It installed a nice debian stretch OS with pieces of asterisk,  but
> none of the menu commands work, nor shell scripts: like astdn.sh,  nor
> service asterisk status...  the commands are unrecognised.
> 
> I'm logged in locally on server console as user 'repeater'.
> 
> I did  ps -aux | grep "asterisk"  and it does show that asterisk is
> running.
> 
> I suspect a path issue, did a "set" command and it scrolled several pages
> that look like python script.

They need to be run as root, and all the commands are in /usr/local/sbin/

Try sudo su - and check that that is in your path.  It should be.

73's

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From ian.chilton at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 16:28:42 2018
From: ian.chilton at gmail.com (Ian Chilton)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:28:42 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ASL on Pi Zero?
Message-ID: <CAG-W1H_Wj_6=cg9C2RE2W=ac4Cd_jbJSg9MvGbc3yuVT_Lnieg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I wonder if anyone has tried / been successful in getting ASL running on an
original Pi or a Pi Zero?

The hamvoip.org image is only Pi 2+.

I tried using the http://dvswitch.org/ASL_Repository packages to install it
on Raspbian on a Zero and it installed, but Asterisk just segmentation
fault'd.

I was going to try compiling from source, but thought i'd see if anyone had
trodden this path first.

A Pi 2 will run a dual node without too much load so I don't see why a Pi
Zero shouldn't be able to run at least once stream, but it's much smaller
and cheaper.

Thanks,

Ian
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From ars.w5omr at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 11:26:45 2018
From: ars.w5omr at gmail.com (ARS W5OMR)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:26:45 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] A couple of connected node questions
In-Reply-To: <340865172.4149541.1536812645400@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <340865172.4149541.1536812645400.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <340865172.4149541.1536812645400@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAOhDOk0EJA986a5hsmF4b1eSQpU8bGJGLr_jYF8TSHrMSdHjPA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 11:24 PM TGundo 2003 <tgundo2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Getting close to my first deployment going live, putting the finishing
> touches on it. Couple of questions I can't seem to find answers to.
>
> 1. Is there a way to see in the console what nodes are currently connected
> to your node?
>

at the command line:
*CLI> rpt stats [node_number] <enter>

7th line up from the bottom reads:
Nodes currently connected to us ............:


> 2. Is there a way to only allow certain nodes to your node? I kinda looked
> at the blacklist/whitelist thing in the ASL-Menu, not sure if thats where
> to look. I guess I'm looking to have a whitelist to add to as opposed to a
> blacklist to block.
>
>
can't help there, and it's not really in the initial interest of the
allstar project.  In the community, it's frowned upon to block another
allstar node (at least that's the impression I get from the original
statement)

73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 14:07:59 2018
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:07:59 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] A couple of connected node questions
In-Reply-To: <CAOhDOk0EJA986a5hsmF4b1eSQpU8bGJGLr_jYF8TSHrMSdHjPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <340865172.4149541.1536812645400.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <340865172.4149541.1536812645400@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAOhDOk0EJA986a5hsmF4b1eSQpU8bGJGLr_jYF8TSHrMSdHjPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9scBs9RBh7M-edySrLQtEf=r2oG0NakROupk4i6Pg6pAg@mail.gmail.com>

1. Allmon is a great web based tool for controlling and monitoring your
node. Have a look at https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2

2. It's true that the author of AllStar wanted it to be open. He even
mandated the connect codes not be changed. However there are some features
in AllStar that belie that plan. For example the prefix (*) can be changed
(*123 for example), usage of the stats page is optional and AllStar has
provisions for private nodes. That's a nod to the fact that reality
sometimes clashes with utopia. With that in mind I created the black/white
list dialplan. Use it sparingly in the spirit of ham radio openness.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:27 AM ARS W5OMR <ars.w5omr at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 11:24 PM TGundo 2003 <tgundo2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Getting close to my first deployment going live, putting the finishing
>> touches on it. Couple of questions I can't seem to find answers to.
>>
>> 1. Is there a way to see in the console what nodes are currently
>> connected to your node?
>>
>
> at the command line:
> *CLI> rpt stats [node_number] <enter>
>
> 7th line up from the bottom reads:
> Nodes currently connected to us ............:
>
>
>> 2. Is there a way to only allow certain nodes to your node? I kinda
>> looked at the blacklist/whitelist thing in the ASL-Menu, not sure if thats
>> where to look. I guess I'm looking to have a whitelist to add to as opposed
>> to a blacklist to block.
>>
>>
> can't help there, and it's not really in the initial interest of the
> allstar project.  In the community, it's frowned upon to block another
> allstar node (at least that's the impression I get from the original
> statement)
>
> 73 = Best Regards,
> -Geoff/W5OMR
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From edbathgate at zoominternet.net  Fri Oct 12 18:37:20 2018
From: edbathgate at zoominternet.net (edbathgate at zoominternet.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:37:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] New install x86, commands missing
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1539187201.22173.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
References: <mailman.1.1539187201.22173.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
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Trying to keep the thread tied together...
I am up and things are functioning better now.
The Root login was key to getting things to work.  Thanks Brian.
The Repeater login, does not set the paths correctly.

<Additional info, for new or refreshing users, this might be useful info or tips to add to the FAQ, or not...>

I originally ran an ACID distro years ago, and decided to do a new version on some different hardware.
I used a windows 7 pc to download the .iso file, then used 'rufus3.3' to make a bootable linux usb drive with the Asterisk .iso file on it.

It loaded ok, and I got in as Repeater, but could not do any of the asterisk commands, nor asl-menu.  (root login fixed that).

I had difficulty getting the radio tune commands to work, it kept failing returning that "Device usb_29019" currently not active". If I did 'radio active' it showed my usb device as active.    

<tip>  ctl+alt+[f2] opens another login and console session, switch back to orig console by ctl+alt+[f1]

Command lsusb showed cm108 audio device was present to the OS.
I found the problem in the top of rpt.conf file,  I had under [29019] node number stanza, both rxchannel = dahdi/pseudo and rxchannel = Radio/usb_29019 both uncommented,  and it was confusing the program or only activating the first choice.

After that I was able to manually "radio tune txvoice" from the Asterisk CLI.   I could not get the gui to do the radio tuning functions.  It was enabled in modules, and rpt.conf, and worked from CLI.  Menu BUG, or something funky on my install?

Everything seemed to work nicely when connected through the router by copper, but when I went to a wireless > copper "wi-fi" extender, the DHCP from the extender kept giving a IPV6 address only, without a IPv4 address.  I used ifconfig to show my ip address, as my wireless device did not give IP or port info.   Adding the following lines to the /etc/sysctl.conf file I was able to prevent IPV6 and get a IPv4 address, and now I was showing on the node list on Allstar.
net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1
net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 = 1
net.ipv6.conf.eth0.disable_ipv6 = 1
 
Most everything is working, except Asterisk does not decode DTMF 3 from either of my radios. I suspect this to be an artifact of using demphasized audio from an HT I used to feed the USB audio device.  I plan to try a hamtronics rx board discriminator audio and see if that fixes the DTMF issue.  Observed using Asterisk CLI commands: radio set debug (on) and rpt debug level 7 while I was trying to connect to hub 2135.

I activated a 2nd node today, #29966, but I only have 1 CM108 usb device at the moment... and could not get Asterisk to play with a logitech USB headset. 

73 Ed N3SDO  




From jrorke at cogeco.ca  Sat Oct 13 22:36:37 2018
From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:36:37 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Switching Hardware on a Pi
In-Reply-To: <216122830.6707054.1539061657516@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <216122830.6707054.1539061657516.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <216122830.6707054.1539061657516@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5BC27375.9060202@cogeco.ca>

I would think that perhaps when you swapp in the ther fob, that the usb 
port changes. If you go into the tune menu and do a radio save it might 
save the new usb slot to your node.

Jon RQ

On 10/9/2018 1:07 AM, TGundo 2003 wrote:
> Is there something special that needs to be done when switching audio 
> FOB's on a Pi?
>
> I had a RIM-7330 with an intermittent USB jack. Received a 
> replacement, swapped it in, everything works except TX audio (from the 
> radio into the RIM, more likely it's not reacting to the PTT logic). 
> When I put the old one back in it worked fine (other than having to 
> hold the USB jack just right). Put the new one back on still no luck.
>
> Scott at RB (Who probably thinks I am crazy at this point) was kind 
> enough to send me another RIM-7330 as well as a RIM-Lite. Put the next 
> RIM-7330 in, same issue! Tonight I made up the cable to try the 
> RIM-Lite, Same issue again!
>
> I've tried 5 different USB cables, rebooted many times, every basic 
> thing I can think of. It's like it does not want to recognize the PTT 
> output as COS on the RIM. The PTT logic is working on the controller, 
> even tried another port. Strange thing is it will occasionally work, 
> no rhyme or reason, and can quit working mid-sentence.
>
> Is there somewhere in the config I need to clear the old RIM out of 
> the file? Is it done by a device ID somewhere?
>
> Thanks
> Tom
> W9SRV
>
>
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From ssedgwick at suddenlink.net  Sat Oct 13 23:29:25 2018
From: ssedgwick at suddenlink.net (ssedgwick)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:29:25 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] ASL on Pi Zero?
In-Reply-To: <CAG-W1H_Wj_6=cg9C2RE2W=ac4Cd_jbJSg9MvGbc3yuVT_Lnieg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FE16B23F3A4B478BB804D3908726D7AE@SteveOfficePC>

I also tried to get the Pi-Zero to work and got the same results as you did.  I have an application where I need as physically small as possible and least amount of power consumption so I too am interested in getting the Pi-Zero to work with ASL.  

Thanks,
Steve_WB8GRS
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From edbathgate at zoominternet.net  Mon Oct 15 15:42:29 2018
From: edbathgate at zoominternet.net (edbathgate at zoominternet.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:42:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] asl-menu Bug and proposed fix to option 3 Run
 Radio-tune-menu not working / high frequency noise - fixed / DTMF 3 not
 working - fixed
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Hi folks 

I've been tinkering under the hood with my new 20180417 version allstar repeater, downloaded and installed last week, and figured out why asl-menu option 3 Run Radio-tune-menu for USBradio configuration is not working on my setup. 

In my rpt.conf file my command has "rxchannel = Radio/usb_29966". Most the rxchannel = Something is Capitalized in the first letter and 
the asl-menu is looking for "radio", not "Radio" < the capital R is throwing it off. 

First of all, My hat is off to N8THN for crafting such a nifty menu shell! Just elegant!! 
My proposed fix is in /usr/local/sbin/asl-menu 
nano the file and find line 
grep '^rxchannel[ \t]*=[ \t]*radio' $CONFIGS/rpt.conf > /dev/null 
flag grep to case insensitive by adding the -i option. 
grep -i '^rxchannel[ \t]*=[ \t]*radio' $CONFIGS/rpt.conf > /dev/null 
And the menu will work for Radio or radio. 

And using the hamtronics rx board with direct discriminator feed to the USB FOB, fixed the "not enough high frequency noise" during radio tune rxnoise command, and also corrected my DTMF 3 not decoding problem that I was seeing last week using de-emphasized HT speaker audio. 

73 
Ed N3SDO 





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From randy at neals.ca  Fri Oct 19 00:25:01 2018
From: randy at neals.ca (Randy Neals)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:25:01 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Wanted: Micro-Node RTCM
Message-ID: <CAHDTD7q_mT=1EmNMCaURg+nguOMRxpwG=hvmr19qJj6sd6Sfzg@mail.gmail.com>

If you have a Micro-Node RTCM that is in good condition and excess to your
needs I would like to acquire it.

Randy Neals
w3rwn at arrl.net
Seattle, WA
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From k2dls at k2dls.net  Sat Oct 20 14:59:19 2018
From: k2dls at k2dls.net (Dan Srebnick)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 10:59:19 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstarlink package for armv6 architecture
Message-ID: <007c01d46885$7aedf060$70c9d120$@k2dls.net>

HI list:

 

Before Steve (N4IRS) stepped back from the project, he was taking a look at
creating a package that would build on a Raspberry Pi B or B+ (armv6).  I do
currently run on an RPi B+ with an old apt_rpt build on top of Arch Linux.
(See https://github.com/K2DLS/Allstar-using-dahdi-Arch-4x)  But I cannot
update the OS because when I do, the package fails to run and rebuild for a
number of reasons.

 

Anyway, are the current team members at all interested in creating a package
that we could install on a current Raspbian Stretch image on the older RPi
models?  There are a number of us out here who would be interested, if for
no other reason than it ought to work and we have a bunch of older RPis
sitting around not doing too much!

 

Thanks and 73,

 

Dan Srebnick

K2DLS

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From cnovey at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 05:15:21 2018
From: cnovey at gmail.com (Clifford Novey)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 22:15:21 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] headers hold - how long?
Message-ID: <CAJB0vg8aePO4UCM9T_J-7GuQPtPRcn9ntQ8cp+pzwUTBzoU1WQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all-
When I do a: sudo apt-get upgrade
I see it looks like the hold I did with install is still in effect. Do I
leave it this way? Also wondering how we might find when the ASL code has
been updated. I like to be a guinea pig.

The following packages have been kept back:
  libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 raspberrypi-kernel
  raspberrypi-kernel-headers

73
Clifford- KK6QMS
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From mm at midnighteng.com  Sun Oct 21 14:01:29 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:01:29 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] headers hold - how long?
In-Reply-To: <CAJB0vg8aePO4UCM9T_J-7GuQPtPRcn9ntQ8cp+pzwUTBzoU1WQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJB0vg8aePO4UCM9T_J-7GuQPtPRcn9ntQ8cp+pzwUTBzoU1WQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c852c426-dd4c-853c-9644-d91ef17e79ea@midnighteng.com>

ASL continues to update as needed. And if you update/upgrade, you have 
the latest and greatest.
It is the operating system to what you are putting that hold on.
Mainly for OSS sound support.

JJ posted a potential work around for sound support with the later OS 
Kernel. So if you want to test, here is his link.
Nothing official that i am aware of so, as you wish, guinea pig away.
Do read it all over before doing anything.

http://enhanced.github.io/2018/08/ASL_With_ALSA

Thanks to JJ

...mike/kb8jnm

On 10/21/2018 1:15 AM, Clifford Novey wrote:
> Hi all-
> When I do a: sudo apt-get upgrade
> I see it looks like the hold I did with install is still in effect. Do I
> leave it this way? Also wondering how we might find when the ASL code has
> been updated. I like to be a guinea pig.
> 
> The following packages have been kept back:
>    libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 raspberrypi-kernel
>    raspberrypi-kernel-headers
> 
> 73
> Clifford- KK6QMS
> 
> 
> 
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From opk5dvt at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 15:34:20 2018
From: opk5dvt at gmail.com (Jon Williams)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:34:20 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allstarlink package for armv6 architecture
Message-ID: <CAPHCrdAjPs+XVWDRMEESV9h122A1x0N9K6JBubqe=QAJVs=_4g@mail.gmail.com>

I would be interested and would like to help develop it.

K5DVT, Jon

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> Before Steve (N4IRS) stepped back from the project, he was taking a look at
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> do
> currently run on an RPi B+ with an old apt_rpt build on top of Arch Linux.
> (See https://github.com/K2DLS/Allstar-using-dahdi-Arch-4x)  But I cannot
> update the OS because when I do, the package fails to run and rebuild for a
> number of reasons.
>
>
>
> Anyway, are the current team members at all interested in creating a
> package
> that we could install on a current Raspbian Stretch image on the older RPi
> models?  There are a number of us out here who would be interested, if for
> no other reason than it ought to work and we have a bunch of older RPis
> sitting around not doing too much!
>
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>
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From martin.boroff at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 17:12:46 2018
From: martin.boroff at gmail.com (Martin Boroff)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:12:46 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
Message-ID: <59C70E88-E35C-4676-B80E-B5E156AA59F4@gmail.com>

I have my server node running, 49155. I am able to use it to connect to another node with iaxrpt and speak with an echo link user.

I have hooked up my sound card with a radio that will run fldigi on another raspberry pi with Jessie installed. Therefore I am confident that my hardware and wiring are ok. The card is a usb card. 

lsusb shows The first device listed is my sound card.
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When I connect to my node I have been using the keypad when the call ok appears. I enter *34911. When I speak the mic meter is indicating audio but my radio does not key. 

I am attaching copies of rpt.conf manager.conf modules.conf

Please let me know if you need anything else from asterisk directory.

Thank you.

Martin Boroff, WD9GYM

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From mm at midnighteng.com  Sun Oct 21 18:12:41 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:12:41 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
In-Reply-To: <59C70E88-E35C-4676-B80E-B5E156AA59F4@gmail.com>
References: <59C70E88-E35C-4676-B80E-B5E156AA59F4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5214886d-fcfb-558b-aa62-c904e5016f47@midnighteng.com>

Iis the problem system a pi or pc ?

Radio interface simpleusb.conf or usbradio.conf ?

Show the contents of that file you use.

Is the radio interface a modified sound dongle or something else ?

I'm trying to determine how you should be getting your cos/ptt and then 
looking at your set-up for it. But it sounds like your PTT is not 
inverted correctly for the radio or you can't sink enough current to 
pull it active.

...mike/kb8jnm

On 10/21/2018 1:12 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
> I have my server node running, 49155. I am able to use it to connect to another node with iaxrpt and speak with an echo link user.
> 
> I have hooked up my sound card with a radio that will run fldigi on another raspberry pi with Jessie installed. Therefore I am confident that my hardware and wiring are ok. The card is a usb card.
> 
> lsusb shows The first device listed is my sound card.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> When I connect to my node I have been using the keypad when the call ok appears. I enter *34911. When I speak the mic meter is indicating audio but my radio does not key.
> 
> I am attaching copies of rpt.conf manager.conf modules.conf
> 
> Please let me know if you need anything else from asterisk directory.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Martin Boroff, WD9GYM
> 
> 
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From martin.boroff at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 18:30:06 2018
From: martin.boroff at gmail.com (Martin Boroff)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:30:06 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
In-Reply-To: <5214886d-fcfb-558b-aa62-c904e5016f47@midnighteng.com>
References: <59C70E88-E35C-4676-B80E-B5E156AA59F4@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <D1A21C36-696A-4021-8D21-43376910A683@gmail.com>

Mike

I think the problem is in the pi.

I thought I may have tried to define usbradio but I am not 100% sure. I will attach the conf files with my codename on them. I?m not sure what you mean by which file I use. Where would I look to see which one I use.

The radio is a Ten Ten Patriot usb transceiver I am using for testing. It connects with a Ten Ten USB sound card and has leads for ground, mic, audio out and PTT. I plan to later connect a Yeasu FTM100DR which I hope to operate remotely. 


73, Marty

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> On Oct 21, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
> 
> Iis the problem system a pi or pc ?
> 
> Radio interface simpleusb.conf or usbradio.conf ?
> 
> Show the contents of that file you use.
> 
> Is the radio interface a modified sound dongle or something else ?
> 
> I'm trying to determine how you should be getting your cos/ptt and then looking at your set-up for it. But it sounds like your PTT is not inverted correctly for the radio or you can't sink enough current to pull it active.
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
> On 10/21/2018 1:12 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
>> I have my server node running, 49155. I am able to use it to connect to another node with iaxrpt and speak with an echo link user.
>> I have hooked up my sound card with a radio that will run fldigi on another raspberry pi with Jessie installed. Therefore I am confident that my hardware and wiring are ok. The card is a usb card.
>> lsusb shows The first device listed is my sound card.
>> When I connect to my node I have been using the keypad when the call ok appears. I enter *34911. When I speak the mic meter is indicating audio but my radio does not key.
>> I am attaching copies of rpt.conf manager.conf modules.conf
>> Please let me know if you need anything else from asterisk directory.
>> Thank you.
>> Martin Boroff, WD9GYM
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Oct 21 18:55:21 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:55:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
In-Reply-To: <D1A21C36-696A-4021-8D21-43376910A683@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211433060.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Marty,

simpleusb and usbradio only work with CM108/CM119 compatible sound cards.  
These drivers don't support the TI PCM2912 chipset, as seen in your
earlier screenshot.

Note that COS/PTT must be attached to specific pins on the CMxyz sound
device for signaling to work.

There is lots of documentation out there about how the CMxyz device is
attached to the radio. There are many compatible commercial boards
available, including the DMK URIx, Masters Communications RA35/RA40,
Repeater Builder USB-RIM, etc.

You can also build your own and many other alternative CMxyz adapters have 
been designed/built by other hams and are available, too. Here is a link 
to one of many examples of building an interface:

https://www.hamvoip.org/hamradio/usb_fob_modification/



73, David KB4FXC



On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Martin Boroff wrote:

> Mike
> 
> I think the problem is in the pi.
> 
> I thought I may have tried to define usbradio but I am not 100% sure. I will attach the conf files with my codename on them. I???m not sure what you mean by which file I use. Where would I look to see which one I use.
> 
> The radio is a Ten Ten Patriot usb transceiver I am using for testing. It connects with a Ten Ten USB sound card and has leads for ground, mic, audio out and PTT. I plan to later connect a Yeasu FTM100DR which I hope to operate remotely. 
> 
> 
> 73, Marty
> 
> 



From mm at midnighteng.com  Sun Oct 21 18:56:05 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:56:05 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
In-Reply-To: <D1A21C36-696A-4021-8D21-43376910A683@gmail.com>
References: <59C70E88-E35C-4676-B80E-B5E156AA59F4@gmail.com>
 <5214886d-fcfb-558b-aa62-c904e5016f47@midnighteng.com>
 <D1A21C36-696A-4021-8D21-43376910A683@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <526ce526-40ce-d105-6e7a-5c3f1fbc43bb@midnighteng.com>

Well, let's start with your rpt.conf file.

rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb_29285

If usbradio/usb_xxxxx send the usbradio.conf file

In one form or another, the PTT trigger starts as software.
I'm not sure about your radio interface, it's unknown to me.
But the activation adjustments are normally made in those files.
But it sounds like perhaps you have something proprietary ???

If ASL does not know what to send to the usb radio interface to activate 
the PTT and with the correct logic, you will not have one.

But I doubt your pi is at fault. Control signals must have proper 
attachment to software and hardware.

...mike/kb8jnm

On 10/21/2018 2:30 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
> Mike
> 
> I think the problem is in the pi.
> 
> I thought I may have tried to define usbradio but I am not 100% sure. I will attach the conf files with my codename on them. I?m not sure what you mean by which file I use. Where would I look to see which one I use.
> 
> The radio is a Ten Ten Patriot usb transceiver I am using for testing. It connects with a Ten Ten USB sound card and has leads for ground, mic, audio out and PTT. I plan to later connect a Yeasu FTM100DR which I hope to operate remotely.
> 
> 
> 73, Marty
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
>>
>> Iis the problem system a pi or pc ?
>>
>> Radio interface simpleusb.conf or usbradio.conf ?
>>
>> Show the contents of that file you use.
>>
>> Is the radio interface a modified sound dongle or something else ?
>>
>> I'm trying to determine how you should be getting your cos/ptt and then looking at your set-up for it. But it sounds like your PTT is not inverted correctly for the radio or you can't sink enough current to pull it active.
>>
>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>
>> On 10/21/2018 1:12 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
>>> I have my server node running, 49155. I am able to use it to connect to another node with iaxrpt and speak with an echo link user.
>>> I have hooked up my sound card with a radio that will run fldigi on another raspberry pi with Jessie installed. Therefore I am confident that my hardware and wiring are ok. The card is a usb card.
>>> lsusb shows The first device listed is my sound card.
>>> When I connect to my node I have been using the keypad when the call ok appears. I enter *34911. When I speak the mic meter is indicating audio but my radio does not key.
>>> I am attaching copies of rpt.conf manager.conf modules.conf
>>> Please let me know if you need anything else from asterisk directory.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Martin Boroff, WD9GYM
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
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From martin.boroff at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 19:51:41 2018
From: martin.boroff at gmail.com (Martin Boroff)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:51:41 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211433060.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211433060.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <6C12AC70-1F30-4992-A3B0-121902D97D79@gmail.com>

David

If I interpret this correctly, I should be using an interface like the URI device for my radio interface. Is that correct?

Maybe I should go back to John Kruk the Yeasu rep and get his hardware configuration. He did tell me he interface an FTM400XD. He just isn?t very responsive.

73, Marty WD9GYM

> On Oct 21, 2018, at 1:55 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Marty,
> 
> simpleusb and usbradio only work with CM108/CM119 compatible sound cards.  
> These drivers don't support the TI PCM2912 chipset, as seen in your
> earlier screenshot.
> 
> Note that COS/PTT must be attached to specific pins on the CMxyz sound
> device for signaling to work.
> 
> There is lots of documentation out there about how the CMxyz device is
> attached to the radio. There are many compatible commercial boards
> available, including the DMK URIx, Masters Communications RA35/RA40,
> Repeater Builder USB-RIM, etc.
> 
> You can also build your own and many other alternative CMxyz adapters have 
> been designed/built by other hams and are available, too. Here is a link 
> to one of many examples of building an interface:
> 
> https://www.hamvoip.org/hamradio/usb_fob_modification/
> 
> 
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Martin Boroff wrote:
> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> I think the problem is in the pi.
>> 
>> I thought I may have tried to define usbradio but I am not 100% sure. I will attach the conf files with my codename on them. I???m not sure what you mean by which file I use. Where would I look to see which one I use.
>> 
>> The radio is a Ten Ten Patriot usb transceiver I am using for testing. It connects with a Ten Ten USB sound card and has leads for ground, mic, audio out and PTT. I plan to later connect a Yeasu FTM100DR which I hope to operate remotely. 
>> 
>> 
>> 73, Marty
>> 
>> 
> 
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From edbathgate at zoominternet.net  Sun Oct 21 19:53:26 2018
From: edbathgate at zoominternet.net (Edbathgate)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:53:26 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allison speech messages / telemetry volume
Message-ID: <24ECC0B7-AB9B-40E7-BA9A-079AE4182B8F@zoominternet.net>

I was doing a scouting event, and experienced a number of the tx-ing stations with low audio, so I was cranking my volume and straining to hear the other stations, when a blasting disconnect message comes through.   

I found settings of how to block the connect/disconnect messages.

There used to be 'ducking' settings in the Xipar distribution of allstar.         
Telemnomdb=-10, Telemduckdb =. -15.  Do these still exist?

I just found linkmongain variable.  Mine was still at zero.   I may jack that up to compensate for low hub audio.

Anybody have suggestions to adjust the rx audio/hub audio/telemetry radios without severely blasting other users when I am connected into a hub?

Ed N3SDO


From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Oct 21 20:01:39 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:01:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
In-Reply-To: <6C12AC70-1F30-4992-A3B0-121902D97D79@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211559300.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Marty,

Yes, that's correct. For simpleusb and usbradio, you must use a URI type 
device which has a C-Media CM108 or CM119 family chip.


73, David KB4FXC


On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Martin Boroff wrote:

> David

If I interpret this correctly, I should be using an interface like the URI device for my radio interface. Is that correct?

Maybe I should go back to John Kruk the Yeasu rep and get his hardware configuration. He did tell me he interface an FTM400XD. He just isn???t very responsive.

73, Marty WD9GYM

> On Oct 21, 2018, at 1:55 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Marty,
> 
> simpleusb and usbradio only work with CM108/CM119 compatible sound cards.  
> These drivers don't support the TI PCM2912 chipset, as seen in your
> earlier screenshot.
> 
> Note that COS/PTT must be attached to specific pins on the CMxyz sound
> device for signaling to work.
> 
> There is lots of documentation out there about how the CMxyz device is
> attached to the radio. There are many compatible commercial boards
> available, including the DMK URIx, Masters Communications RA35/RA40,
> Repeater Builder USB-RIM, etc.
> 
> You can also build your own and many other alternative CMxyz adapters have 
> been designed/built by other hams and are available, too. Here is a link 
> to one of many examples of building an interface:
> 
> https://www.hamvoip.org/hamradio/usb_fob_modification/
> 
> 
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Martin Boroff wrote:
> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> I think the problem is in the pi.
>> 
>> I thought I may have tried to define usbradio but I am not 100% sure. I will attach the conf files with my codename on them. I??????m not sure what you mean by which file I use. Where would I look to see which one I use.
>> 
>> The radio is a Ten Ten Patriot usb transceiver I am using for testing. It connects with a Ten Ten USB sound card and has leads for ground, mic, audio out and PTT. I plan to later connect a Yeasu FTM100DR which I hope to operate remotely. 
>> 
>> 
>> 73, Marty
>> 
>> 
> 
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From mm at midnighteng.com  Sun Oct 21 20:04:26 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:04:26 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allison speech messages / telemetry volume
In-Reply-To: <24ECC0B7-AB9B-40E7-BA9A-079AE4182B8F@zoominternet.net>
References: <24ECC0B7-AB9B-40E7-BA9A-079AE4182B8F@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <c90f7b6f-1253-110e-3220-6cd290cec8b0@midnighteng.com>

While I can't really speak to adjustments to zippor,

But it sounds like your tx audio was low and you made up for it by 
boosting the tx level and not getting the rx audio correct.

You can not adjust allison etc, so in order to have the 'correct balance',
you must start with correct rx audio levels and make/adjust everything 
else to match.

...mike/kb8jnm

On 10/21/2018 3:53 PM, Edbathgate wrote:
> I was doing a scouting event, and experienced a number of the tx-ing stations with low audio, so I was cranking my volume and straining to hear the other stations, when a blasting disconnect message comes through.
> 
> I found settings of how to block the connect/disconnect messages.
> 
> There used to be 'ducking' settings in the Xipar distribution of allstar.
> Telemnomdb=-10, Telemduckdb =. -15.  Do these still exist?
> 
> I just found linkmongain variable.  Mine was still at zero.   I may jack that up to compensate for low hub audio.
> 
> Anybody have suggestions to adjust the rx audio/hub audio/telemetry radios without severely blasting other users when I am connected into a hub?
> 
> Ed N3SDO
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From martin.boroff at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 20:05:45 2018
From: martin.boroff at gmail.com (Martin Boroff)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:05:45 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
In-Reply-To: <526ce526-40ce-d105-6e7a-5c3f1fbc43bb@midnighteng.com>
References: <59C70E88-E35C-4676-B80E-B5E156AA59F4@gmail.com>
 <5214886d-fcfb-558b-aa62-c904e5016f47@midnighteng.com>
 <D1A21C36-696A-4021-8D21-43376910A683@gmail.com>
 <526ce526-40ce-d105-6e7a-5c3f1fbc43bb@midnighteng.com>
Message-ID: <425ED3CA-DB4D-4AD6-9010-B5B72FE2A987@gmail.com>

Mike

I received a reply from David McaGough FB4FXC which stated my card is a TM PCM 2912 chip set and it is not supported. No doubt this is a show stopper. 

Your comment about changing or adjusting my opt.conf file has rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb_29285. I assume that 29285 is your node and my rpt.config  has my node number. My simple_tune_usb49155 is the closest I have to a file with my node number in it and it is empty. Simples.conf has info in it. Should I adjust the statement to point to it? I suppose I can comment out the current statement and make a new one.

Also my rpt.conf has two rxchannel statements. 

Again what should I send?

73, Marty 

> On Oct 21, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, let's start with your rpt.conf file.
> 
> rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb_29285
> 
> If usbradio/usb_xxxxx send the usbradio.conf file
> 
> In one form or another, the PTT trigger starts as software.
> I'm not sure about your radio interface, it's unknown to me.
> But the activation adjustments are normally made in those files.
> But it sounds like perhaps you have something proprietary ???
> 
> If ASL does not know what to send to the usb radio interface to activate the PTT and with the correct logic, you will not have one.
> 
> But I doubt your pi is at fault. Control signals must have proper attachment to software and hardware.
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
> On 10/21/2018 2:30 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
>> Mike
>> I think the problem is in the pi.
>> I thought I may have tried to define usbradio but I am not 100% sure. I will attach the conf files with my codename on them. I?m not sure what you mean by which file I use. Where would I look to see which one I use.
>> The radio is a Ten Ten Patriot usb transceiver I am using for testing. It connects with a Ten Ten USB sound card and has leads for ground, mic, audio out and PTT. I plan to later connect a Yeasu FTM100DR which I hope to operate remotely.
>> 73, Marty
>>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Iis the problem system a pi or pc ?
>>> 
>>> Radio interface simpleusb.conf or usbradio.conf ?
>>> 
>>> Show the contents of that file you use.
>>> 
>>> Is the radio interface a modified sound dongle or something else ?
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to determine how you should be getting your cos/ptt and then looking at your set-up for it. But it sounds like your PTT is not inverted correctly for the radio or you can't sink enough current to pull it active.
>>> 
>>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>> 
>>> On 10/21/2018 1:12 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
>>>> I have my server node running, 49155. I am able to use it to connect to another node with iaxrpt and speak with an echo link user.
>>>> I have hooked up my sound card with a radio that will run fldigi on another raspberry pi with Jessie installed. Therefore I am confident that my hardware and wiring are ok. The card is a usb card.
>>>> lsusb shows The first device listed is my sound card.
>>>> When I connect to my node I have been using the keypad when the call ok appears. I enter *34911. When I speak the mic meter is indicating audio but my radio does not key.
>>>> I am attaching copies of rpt.conf manager.conf modules.conf
>>>> Please let me know if you need anything else from asterisk directory.
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Martin Boroff, WD9GYM
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Oct 21 20:14:50 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:14:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allison speech messages / telemetry volume
In-Reply-To: <24ECC0B7-AB9B-40E7-BA9A-079AE4182B8F@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211607150.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Ed,

I just participated in the scouting JOTA event as well. Yes, the audio 
levels were all over the board, from clipping on every syllable to quieter
than a mouse.  I think many/most of these stations where coming in via 
echolink, not natively via AllStar, etc.

Unfortunately, there isn't any easy fix for this. The linkmongain setting 
won't fix this, it is only for monitor mode (connecting with *2).

Telemetry ducking features are not implemented in the stock code release,
as far as I know.

73, David KB4FXC

On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Edbathgate wrote:

> I was doing a scouting event, and experienced a number of the tx-ing 
stations with low audio, so I was cranking my volume and straining to 
hear the other stations, when a blasting disconnect message comes through.   
> 
> I found settings of how to block the connect/disconnect messages.
> 
> There used to be 'ducking' settings in the Xipar distribution of allstar.         
> Telemnomdb=-10, Telemduckdb =. -15.  Do these still exist?
> 
> I just found linkmongain variable.  Mine was still at zero.   I may jack that up to compensate for low hub audio.
> 
> Anybody have suggestions to adjust the rx audio/hub audio/telemetry radios without severely blasting other users when I am connected into a hub?
> 
> Ed N3SDO
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From mm at midnighteng.com  Sun Oct 21 20:15:30 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:15:30 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Assistance with Radio Operation
In-Reply-To: <425ED3CA-DB4D-4AD6-9010-B5B72FE2A987@gmail.com>
References: <59C70E88-E35C-4676-B80E-B5E156AA59F4@gmail.com>
 <5214886d-fcfb-558b-aa62-c904e5016f47@midnighteng.com>
 <D1A21C36-696A-4021-8D21-43376910A683@gmail.com>
 <526ce526-40ce-d105-6e7a-5c3f1fbc43bb@midnighteng.com>
 <425ED3CA-DB4D-4AD6-9010-B5B72FE2A987@gmail.com>
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Well, I did copy the message since you are replying to the group.

I did not think I could help with a proprietary interface but I did not 
want to say that because, as I have found, there are some that provide 
some level of support that is not part of our group here for interfaces 
they make. But I can not remember any by name. So you are not the first 
to look for support of others devices and most are not going to work 
with ASL.

So, I would say, go to the wiki for instruction and use a cm108 dongle 
as david showed. Not as many options with a Pi.

...mike/kb8jnm

On 10/21/2018 4:05 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
> Mike
> 
> I received a reply from David McaGough FB4FXC which stated my card is a TM PCM 2912 chip set and it is not supported. No doubt this is a show stopper.
> 
> Your comment about changing or adjusting my opt.conf file has rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb_29285. I assume that 29285 is your node and my rpt.config  has my node number. My simple_tune_usb49155 is the closest I have to a file with my node number in it and it is empty. Simples.conf has info in it. Should I adjust the statement to point to it? I suppose I can comment out the current statement and make a new one.
> 
> Also my rpt.conf has two rxchannel statements.
> 
> Again what should I send?
> 
> 73, Marty
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, let's start with your rpt.conf file.
>>
>> rxchannel = SimpleUSB/usb_29285
>>
>> If usbradio/usb_xxxxx send the usbradio.conf file
>>
>> In one form or another, the PTT trigger starts as software.
>> I'm not sure about your radio interface, it's unknown to me.
>> But the activation adjustments are normally made in those files.
>> But it sounds like perhaps you have something proprietary ???
>>
>> If ASL does not know what to send to the usb radio interface to activate the PTT and with the correct logic, you will not have one.
>>
>> But I doubt your pi is at fault. Control signals must have proper attachment to software and hardware.
>>
>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>
>> On 10/21/2018 2:30 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
>>> Mike
>>> I think the problem is in the pi.
>>> I thought I may have tried to define usbradio but I am not 100% sure. I will attach the conf files with my codename on them. I?m not sure what you mean by which file I use. Where would I look to see which one I use.
>>> The radio is a Ten Ten Patriot usb transceiver I am using for testing. It connects with a Ten Ten USB sound card and has leads for ground, mic, audio out and PTT. I plan to later connect a Yeasu FTM100DR which I hope to operate remotely.
>>> 73, Marty
>>>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Iis the problem system a pi or pc ?
>>>>
>>>> Radio interface simpleusb.conf or usbradio.conf ?
>>>>
>>>> Show the contents of that file you use.
>>>>
>>>> Is the radio interface a modified sound dongle or something else ?
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to determine how you should be getting your cos/ptt and then looking at your set-up for it. But it sounds like your PTT is not inverted correctly for the radio or you can't sink enough current to pull it active.
>>>>
>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>>>>
>>>> On 10/21/2018 1:12 PM, Martin Boroff wrote:
>>>>> I have my server node running, 49155. I am able to use it to connect to another node with iaxrpt and speak with an echo link user.
>>>>> I have hooked up my sound card with a radio that will run fldigi on another raspberry pi with Jessie installed. Therefore I am confident that my hardware and wiring are ok. The card is a usb card.
>>>>> lsusb shows The first device listed is my sound card.
>>>>> When I connect to my node I have been using the keypad when the call ok appears. I enter *34911. When I speak the mic meter is indicating audio but my radio does not key.
>>>>> I am attaching copies of rpt.conf manager.conf modules.conf
>>>>> Please let me know if you need anything else from asterisk directory.
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Martin Boroff, WD9GYM
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Oct 21 20:35:10 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:35:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211633410.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>



Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been 
replaced with another equivalent site?


73, David KB4FXC




From mm at midnighteng.com  Sun Oct 21 20:38:15 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:38:15 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allison speech messages / telemetry volume
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211607150.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211607150.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
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...LOL...
Adjusting your audio to  make others readable, to me, is a very bad 
move. But I understand being a scouting event, you do what you can.
But if poor audio stations are not forced to fix their error, they won't.

...mike/kb8jnm

On 10/21/2018 4:14 PM, David McGough wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> 
> I just participated in the scouting JOTA event as well. Yes, the audio
> levels were all over the board, from clipping on every syllable to quieter
> than a mouse.  I think many/most of these stations where coming in via
> echolink, not natively via AllStar, etc.
> 
> Unfortunately, there isn't any easy fix for this. The linkmongain setting
> won't fix this, it is only for monitor mode (connecting with *2).
> 
> Telemetry ducking features are not implemented in the stock code release,
> as far as I know.
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Edbathgate wrote:
> 
>> I was doing a scouting event, and experienced a number of the tx-ing
> stations with low audio, so I was cranking my volume and straining to
> hear the other stations, when a blasting disconnect message comes through.
>>
>> I found settings of how to block the connect/disconnect messages.
>>
>> There used to be 'ducking' settings in the Xipar distribution of allstar.
>> Telemnomdb=-10, Telemduckdb =. -15.  Do these still exist?
>>
>> I just found linkmongain variable.  Mine was still at zero.   I may jack that up to compensate for low hub audio.
>>
>> Anybody have suggestions to adjust the rx audio/hub audio/telemetry radios without severely blasting other users when I am connected into a hub?
>>
>> Ed N3SDO
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
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> 
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From mm at midnighteng.com  Sun Oct 21 20:43:15 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:43:15 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211633410.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211633410.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <f3209d74-1916-6b66-c913-d7c403ce8532@midnighteng.com>

David,
I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong.
I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but 
it needs additional work.
Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in 
reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization 
in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me.

...mike/kb8jnm


On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote:
> 
> 
> Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been
> replaced with another equivalent site?
> 
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Oct 21 21:05:42 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 17:05:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <f3209d74-1916-6b66-c913-d7c403ce8532@midnighteng.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211700350.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Who was hosting the docs.allstarlink.org site?? VPS or dedicated 
hardware??  Is there a mirror anywhere??

It'll be ashame to loose all that documentation about AllStar / app_rpt. 
The wiki site has only a tiny fraction of the content that was on the docs 
site, unless I'm over looking something??

If it's only a matter of needing a place to host the docs site, that 
concern can be instantly overcome.

73, David KB4FXC



On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Mike wrote:

> David,
> I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong.
> I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but 
> it needs additional work.
> Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in 
> reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization 
> in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me.
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
> 
> On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been
> > replaced with another equivalent site?
> > 
> > 
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> > 
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> > 
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From bryan at bryanfields.net  Sun Oct 21 21:52:25 2018
From: bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:52:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211700350.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211700350.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <6295B78F-28E3-41C8-B85B-E958F348BE33@bryanfields.net>

John David, I?ve yet to see you do anything on the wiki, or assist in any way other than running your mouth.  Oh and theres the whole criminal copyright infringement and plagiarism thing.

--
Bryan Fields
M: +1-727-409-1194

> On Oct 21, 2018, at 17:05, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Who was hosting the docs.allstarlink.org site?? VPS or dedicated 
> hardware??  Is there a mirror anywhere??
> 
> It'll be ashame to loose all that documentation about AllStar / app_rpt. 
> The wiki site has only a tiny fraction of the content that was on the docs 
> site, unless I'm over looking something??
> 
> If it's only a matter of needing a place to host the docs site, that 
> concern can be instantly overcome.
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Mike wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong.
>> I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but 
>> it needs additional work.
>> Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in 
>> reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization 
>> in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me.
>> 
>> ...mike/kb8jnm
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been
>>> replaced with another equivalent site?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Oct 21 22:08:58 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:08:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <6295B78F-28E3-41C8-B85B-E958F348BE33@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211801120.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


So, what happened to the docs.allstarlink.org site???

As for running my mouth, I'll provide hosting for the docs website or
server for FREE, if that's the issue. No stupid political strings 
attached.




On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:

> John David, I???ve yet to see you do anything on the wiki, or assist in 
any way other than running your mouth.  Oh and theres the whole criminal 
copyright infringement and plagiarism thing.
> 
> --
> Bryan Fields
> M: +1-727-409-1194
> 
> > On Oct 21, 2018, at 17:05, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Who was hosting the docs.allstarlink.org site?? VPS or dedicated 
> > hardware??  Is there a mirror anywhere??
> > 
> > It'll be ashame to loose all that documentation about AllStar / app_rpt. 
> > The wiki site has only a tiny fraction of the content that was on the docs 
> > site, unless I'm over looking something??
> > 
> > If it's only a matter of needing a place to host the docs site, that 
> > concern can be instantly overcome.
> > 
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Mike wrote:
> >> 
> >> David,
> >> I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong.
> >> I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but 
> >> it needs additional work.
> >> Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in 
> >> reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization 
> >> in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me.
> >> 
> >> ...mike/kb8jnm
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been
> >>> replaced with another equivalent site?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 73, David KB4FXC
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From wolthuis at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 22:42:51 2018
From: wolthuis at gmail.com (Michael Wolthuis)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:42:51 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211801120.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <6295B78F-28E3-41C8-B85B-E958F348BE33@bryanfields.net>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211801120.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <DM5PR22MB0569FF433C9551396C6B75EAF7FB0@DM5PR22MB0569.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Guys,
The drop of the docs site is my fault.  Nobody else's...  I am cleaning out some very old subnets at my datacenter and it seems one of the IPs was an old one Jim was using that I had misidentified.

David,
I provide more than enough hosting space for the allstar project, but thanks for the offer.

Sorry everyone, I have identified it and re-enabled the site - we will work to either move it off that subnet or keep that subnet active.

Enjoy your weekend, I'm hunting Dolcie!  73s.

Mike
Kb8zgl


?On 10/21/18, 6:09 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:

    
    So, what happened to the docs.allstarlink.org site???
    
    As for running my mouth, I'll provide hosting for the docs website or
    server for FREE, if that's the issue. No stupid political strings 
    attached.
    
    
    
    
    On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
    
    > John David, I???ve yet to see you do anything on the wiki, or assist in 
    any way other than running your mouth.  Oh and theres the whole criminal 
    copyright infringement and plagiarism thing.
    > 
    > --
    > Bryan Fields
    > M: +1-727-409-1194
    > 
    > > On Oct 21, 2018, at 17:05, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
    > > 
    > > 
    > > Who was hosting the docs.allstarlink.org site?? VPS or dedicated 
    > > hardware??  Is there a mirror anywhere??
    > > 
    > > It'll be ashame to loose all that documentation about AllStar / app_rpt. 
    > > The wiki site has only a tiny fraction of the content that was on the docs 
    > > site, unless I'm over looking something??
    > > 
    > > If it's only a matter of needing a place to host the docs site, that 
    > > concern can be instantly overcome.
    > > 
    > > 73, David KB4FXC
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Mike wrote:
    > >> 
    > >> David,
    > >> I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong.
    > >> I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but 
    > >> it needs additional work.
    > >> Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in 
    > >> reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization 
    > >> in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me.
    > >> 
    > >> ...mike/kb8jnm
    > >> 
    > >> 
    > >>> On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote:
    > >>> 
    > >>> 
    > >>> Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been
    > >>> replaced with another equivalent site?
    > >>> 
    > >>> 
    > >>> 73, David KB4FXC
    > >>> 
    > >>> 
    > >>> _______________________________________________
    > >>> App_rpt-users mailing list
    > >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
    > >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
    > >>> 
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    > >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
    > >>> 
    > >> _______________________________________________
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    > >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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    > >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. 
    > >> 
    > > 
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From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Sun Oct 21 23:05:36 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:05:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR22MB0569FF433C9551396C6B75EAF7FB0@DM5PR22MB0569.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211901121.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Hi Mike,

Thanks!! I understand...."Weeding" in a data center is always an 
adventure!


73, David KB4FXC



On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Michael Wolthuis wrote:

> Guys,
> The drop of the docs site is my fault.  Nobody else's...  I am cleaning 
out some very old subnets at my datacenter and it seems one of the IPs 
was an old one Jim was using that I had misidentified.
> 
> David,
> I provide more than enough hosting space for the allstar project, but 
thanks for the offer.
> 
> Sorry everyone, I have identified it and re-enabled the site - we will 
work to either move it off that subnet or keep that subnet active.
> 
> Enjoy your weekend, I'm hunting Dolcie!  73s.
> 
> Mike
> Kb8zgl
> 
> 
> ???On 10/21/18, 6:09 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
>     
>     So, what happened to the docs.allstarlink.org site???
>     
>     As for running my mouth, I'll provide hosting for the docs website or
>     server for FREE, if that's the issue. No stupid political strings 
>     attached.
>     
>     
>     
>     
>     On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
>     
>     > John David, I????????ve yet to see you do anything on the wiki, or assist in 
>     any way other than running your mouth.  Oh and theres the whole criminal 
>     copyright infringement and plagiarism thing.
>     > 
>     > --
>     > Bryan Fields
>     > M: +1-727-409-1194
>     > 
>     > > On Oct 21, 2018, at 17:05, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
>     > > 
>     > > 
>     > > Who was hosting the docs.allstarlink.org site?? VPS or dedicated 
>     > > hardware??  Is there a mirror anywhere??
>     > > 
>     > > It'll be ashame to loose all that documentation about AllStar / app_rpt. 
>     > > The wiki site has only a tiny fraction of the content that was on the docs 
>     > > site, unless I'm over looking something??
>     > > 
>     > > If it's only a matter of needing a place to host the docs site, that 
>     > > concern can be instantly overcome.
>     > > 
>     > > 73, David KB4FXC
>     > > 
>     > > 
>     > > 
>     > >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Mike wrote:
>     > >> 
>     > >> David,
>     > >> I think all we have left is the wiki. Could be wrong.
>     > >> I have put a small amount of time to update some things I know about but 
>     > >> it needs additional work.
>     > >> Personally, I have a hard time navigating it to find stuff to point in 
>     > >> reference to in the list. It needs a better menu system of organization 
>     > >> in my opinion. But I have A.D.D. ..LOL... So probably just me.
>     > >> 
>     > >> ...mike/kb8jnm
>     > >> 
>     > >> 
>     > >>> On 10/21/2018 4:35 PM, David McGough wrote:
>     > >>> 
>     > >>> 
>     > >>> Is the Drupal site on docs.allstarlink.org permanently down??? Has is been
>     > >>> replaced with another equivalent site?
>     > >>> 
>     > >>> 
>     > >>> 73, David KB4FXC
>     > >>> 
>     > >>> 
>     > >>> _______________________________________________
>     > >>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>     > >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>     > >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>     > >>> 
>     > >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
>     > >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
>     > >>> 
>     > >> _______________________________________________
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>     > >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>     > >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>     > >> 
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>     > >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. 
>     > >> 
>     > > 
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From cummingsj at gmail.com  Mon Oct 22 00:24:44 2018
From: cummingsj at gmail.com (JJC)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:24:44 -0600
Subject: [App_rpt-users] headers hold - how long?
In-Reply-To: <c852c426-dd4c-853c-9644-d91ef17e79ea@midnighteng.com>
References: <CAJB0vg8aePO4UCM9T_J-7GuQPtPRcn9ntQ8cp+pzwUTBzoU1WQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <c852c426-dd4c-853c-9644-d91ef17e79ea@midnighteng.com>
Message-ID: <BF0416E3-7DF5-4B11-8C15-F5B75ED71104@gmail.com>

I?ve been using my system this way for 97 days now without issue.  I did a full kernel update this weekend again on the system, rebooted, recompiled dahdi, rebooted and followed the directions in my post no problems...

Sent from the iRoad

> On Oct 21, 2018, at 08:01, Mike <mm at midnighteng.com> wrote:
> 
> ASL continues to update as needed. And if you update/upgrade, you have the latest and greatest.
> It is the operating system to what you are putting that hold on.
> Mainly for OSS sound support.
> 
> JJ posted a potential work around for sound support with the later OS Kernel. So if you want to test, here is his link.
> Nothing official that i am aware of so, as you wish, guinea pig away.
> Do read it all over before doing anything.
> 
> http://enhanced.github.io/2018/08/ASL_With_ALSA
> 
> Thanks to JJ
> 
> ...mike/kb8jnm
> 
>> On 10/21/2018 1:15 AM, Clifford Novey wrote:
>> Hi all-
>> When I do a: sudo apt-get upgrade
>> I see it looks like the hold I did with install is still in effect. Do I
>> leave it this way? Also wondering how we might find when the ASL code has
>> been updated. I like to be a guinea pig.
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>   libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 raspberrypi-kernel
>>   raspberrypi-kernel-headers
>> 73
>> Clifford- KK6QMS
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 05:30:39 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 01:30:39 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211801120.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810211801120.25332-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <513e042f-877a-9ad6-2872-dccf5885eb57@bryanfields.net>

On 10/21/18 6:08 PM, David McGough wrote:
> So, what happened to the docs.allstarlink.org site???
It should be noted, John David and his co-conspirators so kindly test every
AllStarLink.org server, even those unpublished in DNS, every 30 seconds.
Sounds very friendly to me.

> As for running my mouth, I'll provide hosting for the docs website or
> server for FREE, if that's the issue. No stupid political strings 
> attached.

John David, nothing you offer is free; you are a fraud and a criminal.

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Wed Oct 24 05:48:47 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 01:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <513e042f-877a-9ad6-2872-dccf5885eb57@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240138350.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Bryan,

What in the world are you talking about????  *MY* testing the
AllStarLink.org servers every 30 seconds???  Total BS!!

So, what are the IP addresses these so-called "tests" are coming from?

As for the rest of your comments, you are clearly an blooming idiot with a 
grudge.


73, David KB4FXC



On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:

> On 10/21/18 6:08 PM, David McGough wrote:
> > So, what happened to the docs.allstarlink.org site???
> It should be noted, John David and his co-conspirators so kindly test every
> AllStarLink.org server, even those unpublished in DNS, every 30 seconds.
> Sounds very friendly to me.
> 
> > As for running my mouth, I'll provide hosting for the docs website or
> > server for FREE, if that's the issue. No stupid political strings 
> > attached.
> 
> John David, nothing you offer is free; you are a fraud and a criminal.
> 
> 



From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 05:59:57 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 01:59:57 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240138350.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240138350.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <c0c1c15a-286d-cdd1-48e4-39cfc688ee15@bryanfields.net>

On 10/24/18 1:48 AM, David McGough wrote:
> Bryan,
> 
> What in the world are you talking about????  *MY* testing the
> AllStarLink.org servers every 30 seconds???  Total BS!!
John David, your company's servers are pinging, sending requests to all
registration servers and nodes servers every 30 seconds.

> So, what are the IP addresses these so-called "tests" are coming from?

12.17.28.0/23

> As for the rest of your comments, you are clearly an blooming idiot with a 
> grudge.

You are a criminal fraud, pure and simple.  You're deflecting from your
ongoing fraud when called out on it.  You've plagiarized and stolen the
AllStar code and are distributing it with out any legal authority to do so.

This is what a criminal does.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Wed Oct 24 06:09:15 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 02:09:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <c0c1c15a-286d-cdd1-48e4-39cfc688ee15@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240202130.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Bryan,

I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.

WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???

THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!


As for the rest of your comments, you continue to confirm you're a 
blooming idiot.


73, David KB4FXC




On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:

> On 10/24/18 1:48 AM, David McGough wrote:
> > Bryan,
> > 
> > What in the world are you talking about????  *MY* testing the
> > AllStarLink.org servers every 30 seconds???  Total BS!!
> John David, your company's servers are pinging, sending requests to all
> registration servers and nodes servers every 30 seconds.
> 
> > So, what are the IP addresses these so-called "tests" are coming from?
> 
> 12.17.28.0/23
> 
> > As for the rest of your comments, you are clearly an blooming idiot with a 
> > grudge.
> 
> You are a criminal fraud, pure and simple.  You're deflecting from your
> ongoing fraud when called out on it.  You've plagiarized and stolen the
> AllStar code and are distributing it with out any legal authority to do so.
> 
> This is what a criminal does.
> 



From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 06:38:48 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 02:38:48 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240202130.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240202130.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <0ab50631-3ea3-28d5-b391-677dc1786cee@bryanfields.net>

On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
> Bryan,
> 
> I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.

You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.

Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find censorship
necessary.

> WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
> 
> THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!

The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be louder.

While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's been SWIP'd to
you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.

NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
NetName:        INTERNET61-28
NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
NetType:        Reassigned
OriginAS:
Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
RegDate:        2004-06-17
Updated:        2004-06-17
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0

OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN

12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.  Yea,
I must be lying, as criminals never lie.

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Wed Oct 24 07:10:34 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 03:10:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <0ab50631-3ea3-28d5-b391-677dc1786cee@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240254430.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Bryan,

LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since 2004, 
yeah I think I'll claim it.

As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo. 

Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN 
DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!

As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the
published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED
AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS
lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of
the AllStarLink, Inc., board.

So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under 
your rock.


73, David KB4FXC




On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:

> On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
> > Bryan,
> > 
> > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
> 
> You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.
> 
> Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find censorship
> necessary.
> 
> > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
> > 
> > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
> 
> The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be louder.
> 
> While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's been SWIP'd to
> you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
> 
> NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
> CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
> NetName:        INTERNET61-28
> NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
> Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
> NetType:        Reassigned
> OriginAS:
> Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
> RegDate:        2004-06-17
> Updated:        2004-06-17
> Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
> 
> OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
> OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
> OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
> OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
> OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
> 
> 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.  Yea,
> I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
> 
> 



From edbathgate at zoominternet.net  Wed Oct 24 11:44:45 2018
From: edbathgate at zoominternet.net (edbathgate at zoominternet.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 07:44:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] dtmf to script not working for me.
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Issuses with running bash scripts from within allstar by DTMF. Host is X86 type, I'm logged in as root, file permissions set to 777 for both ab.sh and asd.dat. it works from linux cli, partially works from asterisk cli, !/path/script, and does not work from within rpt.conf. 713=cmd,/path/script. Running asterisk version 0.327 installed about a month ago from iso file. So story begins... 




This simple script prints 1234, prints the time/date and appends the time and date onto file asd.dat. 

/etc/asterisk$ cat script: ab.sh 

#!/bin/bash 
echo 1234 
date 
date >> asd.dat 




Script runs as it should from the command line of a linux console window 
/etc/asterisk$ ./ab.sh 
1234 
Mon Oct 22 22:05:22 EDT 2018 
* Note the time ^^^ 




Now to check the file and find 05:22: cat asd.dat 

Mon Oct 22 22:05:05 EDT 2018 
Mon Oct 22 22:05:22 EDT 2018 <yay it worked 




But from within Asterisk CLI it only works 1/2 way: 
*CLI> !/etc/asterisk/ab.sh 
1234 
Mon Oct 22 22:11:44 EDT 2018 
* Note the time ^^^ 6 minutes later, It printed within the asterisk CLI, but did not append to the file. 

cat asd.dat 
Mon Oct 22 22:05:05 EDT 2018 
Mon Oct 22 22:05:22 EDT 2018 < still the old time in the file. not 11:44, so run from asterisk CLI does not let script update the file?? 

And even worse when I try to do this via the rpt.conf file: 





<snip> of rpt.conf 
713 = !/etc/asterisk/ab.sh 
714 = cmd,/etc/asterisk/ab.sh 
715 = cmd,/etc/asterisk/nothere.sh 




command 713 does nothing, wrong syntax for rpt.conf but tried as a test anyway., 714 tries to do something, but does not work., 715 should fail or report error as there is no file by that name but behaves same as 714. 
n3sdorpt2*CLI> rpt fun 29019 *713 
n3sdorpt2*CLI> rpt fun 29019 *714 
[Oct 22 23:32:28] NOTICE[20572]: app_rpt.c:4084 function_cmd: cmd param = /etc/asterisk/ab.sh, digitbuf = 
n3sdorpt2*CLI> rpt fun 29019 *715 
[Oct 22 23:33:55] NOTICE[20572]: app_rpt.c:4084 function_cmd: cmd param = /etc/asterisk/nothere.sh, digitbuf = 




I am doing something wrong or have things set wrong in the OS, or is this function been disabled? 

Please advise. N3SDO 


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From todd at nccom.com  Wed Oct 24 16:01:28 2018
From: todd at nccom.com (Todd Lesser)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:01:28 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
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I personally believe all the attacks are counterproductive.  Let?s all try to work together so we can keep Jim Dixon?s dream of Allstar alive.
We all need to step back,  take a deep breathe, and try to work as a team.    We don?t all have to get a long and differences of opinion are fine.
As always, I am willing to mediate any dispute. 

From ka1mxl at cox.net  Wed Oct 24 16:33:36 2018
From: ka1mxl at cox.net (Kevin Halton)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:33:36 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
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Agreed!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Todd Lesser <todd at nccom.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I personally believe all the attacks are counterproductive.  Let?s all try to work together so we can keep Jim Dixon?s dream of Allstar alive.
> We all need to step back,  take a deep breathe, and try to work as a team.    We don?t all have to get a long and differences of opinion are fine.
> As always, I am willing to mediate any dispute. 
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From bryan at k6cbr.us  Wed Oct 24 16:38:26 2018
From: bryan at k6cbr.us (Bryan St Clair)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:38:26 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
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Agreed here as well.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 09:33 Kevin Halton <ka1mxl at cox.net> wrote:

> Agreed!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 24, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Todd Lesser <todd at nccom.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I personally believe all the attacks are counterproductive.  Let?s all
> try to work together so we can keep Jim Dixon?s dream of Allstar alive.
> > We all need to step back,  take a deep breathe, and try to work as a
> team.    We don?t all have to get a long and differences of opinion are
> fine.
> > As always, I am willing to mediate any dispute.
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From mwbesemer at cox.net  Wed Oct 24 17:27:50 2018
From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer - WM4B)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:27:50 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
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Amen!  The bickering is pointless and totally unproductive.  Grow up!

WM4B


On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Kevin Halton wrote:

> Agreed!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Todd Lesser <todd at nccom.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I personally believe all the attacks are counterproductive.  Let?s 
>> all try to work together so we can keep Jim Dixon?s dream of Allstar 
>> alive.
>> We all need to step back,  take a deep breathe, and try to work as a 
>> team.    We don?t all have to get a long and differences of opinion 
>> are fine.
>> As always, I am willing to mediate any dispute. 
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 19:26:11 2018
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:26:11 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240254430.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <0ab50631-3ea3-28d5-b391-677dc1786cee@bryanfields.net>
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Message-ID: <CAG3ht9vpDfYcGvTFQGYigfBQDkzwCemBp6zxPDMQBosKbGd9Zw@mail.gmail.com>

I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an
effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties
working together.

As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for
use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source
code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's
complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working
together.

Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:

>
> Bryan,
>
> LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since
> 2004,
> yeah I think I'll claim it.
>
> As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo.
>
> Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN
> DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!
>
> As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the
> published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED
> AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS
> lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of
> the AllStarLink, Inc., board.
>
> So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under
> your rock.
>
>
> 73, David KB4FXC
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
>
> > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
> > > Bryan,
> > >
> > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
> >
> > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.
> >
> > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find
> censorship
> > necessary.
> >
> > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
> > >
> > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
> >
> > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be
> louder.
> >
> > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's been
> SWIP'd to
> > you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
> >
> > NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
> > CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
> > NetName:        INTERNET61-28
> > NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
> > Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
> > NetType:        Reassigned
> > OriginAS:
> > Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
> > RegDate:        2004-06-17
> > Updated:        2004-06-17
> > Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
> >
> > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
> > OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
> > OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
> > OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
> > OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
> >
> > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.
> Yea,
> > I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
> >
> >
>
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From wolthuis at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 19:32:39 2018
From: wolthuis at gmail.com (Michael Wolthuis)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:32:39 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
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Tim,
That is GREAT!  This really could die down and there are some great things about HamVoip, but it only benefits everyone, if it benefits everyone.  In other words, sounds like you guys had a great deal, everyone sticks to that and we can get this thing moving forward not backwards!

I couldn?t appreciate more David?s talents on HamVoip and look forward to figuring out common interest.  Past issues can be mended with some care and support.

Let?s do it!

Mike
Kb8zgl


From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> on behalf of Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com>
Reply-To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 3:26 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org

I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties working together.

As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working together.

Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net<mailto:kb4fxc at inttek.net>> wrote:

Bryan,

LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23<http://12.17.28.0/23> has been under my control since 2004,
yeah I think I'll claim it.

As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo.

Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org<http://hamvoip.org> DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN
DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!

As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the
published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED
AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS
lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of
the AllStarLink, Inc., board.

So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under
your rock.


73, David KB4FXC




On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:

> On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
> > Bryan,
> >
> > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
>
> You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.
>
> Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find censorship
> necessary.
>
> > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
> >
> > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
>
> The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be louder.
>
> While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's been SWIP'd to
> you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
>
> NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
> CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23<http://12.17.28.0/23>
> NetName:        INTERNET61-28
> NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
> Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
> NetType:        Reassigned
> OriginAS:
> Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
> RegDate:        2004-06-17
> Updated:        2004-06-17
> Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
>
> OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
> OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
> OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
> OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net<mailto:jdmcgough at inttek.net>
> OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
>
> 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org<http://ns.nodes.hamvoip.org>.  Yea,
> I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
>
>

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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 19:41:10 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:41:10 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
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On 10/24/18 3:26 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an effort
> to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties working
> together.?
>
> As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for
> use in their DNS lookup system. 

This was access to pull the nodes list, not to ping, and poll all servers in
the cluster.  He was polling each server in the cluster, and sending ICMP at
other servers from that IP as well.  None of this was ever authorized when I
was on the board.

> In return David promised to deliver source
> code 

He's promised to deliver source code by distributing "his" HamVOIP software.
He has no license to distributed it without it.

He has promised me he would release his source in March.  This is not being
nice or working with him, it's a _requirement_ of the GPL, the license all our
code is under.  As John David has been unable to actually develop code on his
own, he's bound to abide by the license.

What is there to negotiate on?  He's breaking the law, and to demand he
follows the law is not controversial, it's basic morals.

> When that's
> complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working together.??
> 
> Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.??

Some one is committing an attack on the community and you as a board member
don't seem to want to rectify it.  I'm not content to sit on my hands and do
nothing about John David misdeeds.

People who support John David and people like him will be the downfall of good
software in amateur radio.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 19:46:24 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:46:24 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <1d1e28e.ec73.166a71e45be.Webtop.0@cox.net>
References: <1d1e28e.ec73.166a71e45be.Webtop.0@cox.net>
Message-ID: <3d1449ed-35da-f125-53e5-1b6508210a62@bryanfields.net>

On 10/24/18 1:27 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B wrote:
> Amen!  The bickering is pointless and totally unproductive.  Grow up!

The most unqualified people are telling the most qualified to shut up.  You
are the one who needs to grow a moral compass and quit enabling bad behavior.



-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Wed Oct 24 19:48:37 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:48:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <CAG3ht9vpDfYcGvTFQGYigfBQDkzwCemBp6zxPDMQBosKbGd9Zw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810241548240.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>


Tim,

Agreed. And, well stated.  I great plan would be to have full DNS
integration completed by Christmas 2018.  I think this is realistic goal, 
if we work together and make it happen.



73, David KB4FXC



On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote:

> I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an
> effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties
> working together.
> 
> As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for
> use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source
> code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's
> complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working
> together.
> 
> Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Bryan,
> >
> > LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since
> > 2004,
> > yeah I think I'll claim it.
> >
> > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo.
> >
> > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN
> > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!
> >
> > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the
> > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED
> > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS
> > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of
> > the AllStarLink, Inc., board.
> >
> > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under
> > your rock.
> >
> >
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
> > > > Bryan,
> > > >
> > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
> > >
> > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.
> > >
> > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find
> > censorship
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
> > > >
> > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
> > >
> > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be
> > louder.
> > >
> > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's been
> > SWIP'd to
> > > you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
> > >
> > > NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
> > > CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
> > > NetName:        INTERNET61-28
> > > NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
> > > Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
> > > NetType:        Reassigned
> > > OriginAS:
> > > Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
> > > RegDate:        2004-06-17
> > > Updated:        2004-06-17
> > > Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
> > >
> > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
> > > OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
> > > OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
> > > OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
> > > OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
> > >
> > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.
> > Yea,
> > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > App_rpt-users mailing list
> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list please visit
> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and
> > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press
> > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
> > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email
> > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to
> > the list detailing the problem.
> >
> 
> 
> 



From wolthuis at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 19:57:54 2018
From: wolthuis at gmail.com (Michael Wolthuis)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:57:54 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810241548240.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <CAG3ht9vpDfYcGvTFQGYigfBQDkzwCemBp6zxPDMQBosKbGd9Zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810241548240.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <DM5PR22MB05690E96811094D6265D4E80F7F60@DM5PR22MB0569.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

David,
I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this as well.  Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code changes, source in general.  I agree this is the major sticking point for myself as well as someone who helps on these projects.  I am bringing in good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work deserves recognition through the use of common repo.  I mean, why not just branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this?  Just be the bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon.

We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity!  We can put this past behind us.

Mike
Kb8zgl


?On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:

    
    Tim,
    
    Agreed. And, well stated.  I great plan would be to have full DNS
    integration completed by Christmas 2018.  I think this is realistic goal, 
    if we work together and make it happen.
    
    
    
    73, David KB4FXC
    
    
    
    On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote:
    
    > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an
    > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties
    > working together.
    > 
    > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for
    > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source
    > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's
    > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working
    > together.
    > 
    > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.
    > 
    > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
    > 
    > >
    > > Bryan,
    > >
    > > LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since
    > > 2004,
    > > yeah I think I'll claim it.
    > >
    > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo.
    > >
    > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN
    > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!
    > >
    > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the
    > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED
    > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS
    > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of
    > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board.
    > >
    > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under
    > > your rock.
    > >
    > >
    > > 73, David KB4FXC
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
    > >
    > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
    > > > > Bryan,
    > > > >
    > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
    > > >
    > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.
    > > >
    > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find
    > > censorship
    > > > necessary.
    > > >
    > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
    > > > >
    > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
    > > >
    > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be
    > > louder.
    > > >
    > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's been
    > > SWIP'd to
    > > > you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
    > > >
    > > > NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
    > > > CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
    > > > NetName:        INTERNET61-28
    > > > NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
    > > > Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
    > > > NetType:        Reassigned
    > > > OriginAS:
    > > > Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
    > > > RegDate:        2004-06-17
    > > > Updated:        2004-06-17
    > > > Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
    > > >
    > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
    > > > OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
    > > > OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
    > > > OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
    > > > OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
    > > >
    > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.
    > > Yea,
    > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > _______________________________________________
    > > App_rpt-users mailing list
    > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
    > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
    > >
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    > > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press
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    > 
    > 
    
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From bryan at k6cbr.us  Wed Oct 24 20:02:52 2018
From: bryan at k6cbr.us (Bryan St Clair)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:02:52 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <33f09c5c-f9ce-2e53-449f-604ed7e45b70@bryanfields.net>
References: <0ab50631-3ea3-28d5-b391-677dc1786cee@bryanfields.net>
 <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810240254430.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
 <CAG3ht9vpDfYcGvTFQGYigfBQDkzwCemBp6zxPDMQBosKbGd9Zw@mail.gmail.com>
 <33f09c5c-f9ce-2e53-449f-604ed7e45b70@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <CAH5oE6YkQ0Mvi+8fs3xyskM85qmr5VvTtDcsvghyTobBO5Ov9Q@mail.gmail.com>

I think any downfall is a path you are pathing with these emails.

Children make noise, adults solve problems.

You are very noisy.  This helps nothing other than delaying unity.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 12:41 Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:

>
> People who support John David and people like him will be the downfall of
> good
> software in amateur radio.
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
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From mwbesemer at cox.net  Wed Oct 24 20:38:05 2018
From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:38:05 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
Message-ID: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>

Whatever floats your boat, Bryan.? I'm not a software developer, but I'm also not a jerk.? You are, in my opinion, more of the latter than you are the former.

If you don't like me, kick my nodes off your servers.? I don't care anymore.? ASL is not worth putting up with your prima-donna attitude.? You guys are a running joke in much of the rest of the ham radio community; too bad it's not funny to those of us stuck in the middle. If you're worried about the demise of ham radio, try looking in the mirror...and maybe go to confession.

I've never done anything to you except disagree with you and you've treated me like crap here and elsewhere.? At this point, whether you are right or wrong is immaterial.? You can't go around abusing people just because they disagree with you and expect people to put up with it.? I've tried to play nice in your presence but it has done no good.? I've tried to distance myself from you, but you make it a point to regularly come up on the net to stir the pot.? It has gotten old; all the end users want is a product the works and to not have to listen to this continuous battle.?

I'll save you the trouble of looking in my nodes numbers; they are 48166, 48656, and 48969.? If you're feeling froggy, go ahead and block them.

As for my moral compass, it served me well for the past 37 years of service to this country and through more wars than I can count.? Maybe you too should try doing something worth while to mankind and quit stroking your... ego all the time.

As an end user, I have no more responsibility to protect 'your' product than I would to protect Microsoft.? If 'you' aren't man enough for that task, maybe 'you' should step aside and find someone who is.?

WM4B
On Oct 24, 2018 3:46 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>
> On 10/24/18 1:27 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B wrote: 
> > Amen!? The bickering is pointless and totally unproductive.? Grow up! 
>
> The most unqualified people are telling the most qualified to shut up.? You 
> are the one who needs to grow a moral compass and quit enabling bad behavior. 
>
>
>
> -- 
> Bryan Fields 
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice 
> http://bryanfields.net 
> _______________________________________________ 
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> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org 
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users 
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From steve.n7tx at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 20:47:34 2018
From: steve.n7tx at gmail.com (Steve Thompson)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:47:34 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
Message-ID: <E5E0E205-C853-49EC-A546-DF885343887F@gmail.com>

I?m looking at adding Allstar to my two repeaters, and recently joined this list to learn more about the technology. I don?t understand the internal struggles here, since this is all new to me. So far, I?ve seen a lot of unpleasantness. 

This looks like an environment which I?m probably best to steer clear of, until things settle out. 

Steve N7TX 

> On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:38, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Whatever floats your boat, Bryan.  I'm not a software developer, but I'm also not a jerk.  You are, in my opinion, more of the latter than you are the former.
> 
> If you don't like me, kick my nodes off your servers.  I don't care anymore.  ASL is not worth putting up with your prima-donna attitude.  You guys are a running joke in much of the rest of the ham radio community; too bad it's not funny to those of us stuck in the middle. If you're worried about the demise of ham radio, try looking in the mirror...and maybe go to confession.
> 
> I've never done anything to you except disagree with you and you've treated me like crap here and elsewhere.  At this point, whether you are right or wrong is immaterial.  You can't go around abusing people just because they disagree with you and expect people to put up with it.  I've tried to play nice in your presence but it has done no good.  I've tried to distance myself from you, but you make it a point to regularly come up on the net to stir the pot.  It has gotten old; all the end users want is a product the works and to not have to listen to this continuous battle. 
> 
> I'll save you the trouble of looking in my nodes numbers; they are 48166, 48656, and 48969.  If you're feeling froggy, go ahead and block them.
> 
> As for my moral compass, it served me well for the past 37 years of service to this country and through more wars than I can count.  Maybe you too should try doing something worth while to mankind and quit stroking your... ego all the time.
> 
> As an end user, I have no more responsibility to protect 'your' product than I would to protect Microsoft.  If 'you' aren't man enough for that task, maybe 'you' should step aside and find someone who is. 
> 
> WM4B
>> On Oct 24, 2018 3:46 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/24/18 1:27 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B wrote: 
>>> Amen!  The bickering is pointless and totally unproductive.  Grow up! 
>> 
>> The most unqualified people are telling the most qualified to shut up.  You 
>> are the one who needs to grow a moral compass and quit enabling bad behavior. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bryan Fields 
>> 
>> 727-409-1194 - Voice 
>> http://bryanfields.net 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> App_rpt-users mailing list 
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org 
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users 
>> 
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From waltcarter30 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 24 21:00:54 2018
From: waltcarter30 at yahoo.com (walter)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:00:54 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <E5E0E205-C853-49EC-A546-DF885343887F@gmail.com>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
 <E5E0E205-C853-49EC-A546-DF885343887F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A81AD214E0604AB1A83E2725594E5178@Optiplex580PC>

I feel the same way. I have been reading the posts for the last week and 
feel reluctant to ask questions. I hope you guys get over this.
I think I will wait a while before I request help.
Walt WB4LDS

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:47 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13

I?m looking at adding Allstar to my two repeaters, and recently joined this 
list to learn more about the technology. I don?t understand the internal 
struggles here, since this is all new to me. So far, I?ve seen a lot of 
unpleasantness.

This looks like an environment which I?m probably best to steer clear of, 
until things settle out.

Steve N7TX

> On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:38, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Whatever floats your boat, Bryan.  I'm not a software developer, but I'm 
> also not a jerk.  You are, in my opinion, more of the latter than you are 
> the former.
>
> If you don't like me, kick my nodes off your servers.  I don't care 
> anymore.  ASL is not worth putting up with your prima-donna attitude.  You 
> guys are a running joke in much of the rest of the ham radio community; 
> too bad it's not funny to those of us stuck in the middle. If you're 
> worried about the demise of ham radio, try looking in the mirror...and 
> maybe go to confession.
>
> I've never done anything to you except disagree with you and you've 
> treated me like crap here and elsewhere.  At this point, whether you are 
> right or wrong is immaterial.  You can't go around abusing people just 
> because they disagree with you and expect people to put up with it.  I've 
> tried to play nice in your presence but it has done no good.  I've tried 
> to distance myself from you, but you make it a point to regularly come up 
> on the net to stir the pot.  It has gotten old; all the end users want is 
> a product the works and to not have to listen to this continuous battle.
>
> I'll save you the trouble of looking in my nodes numbers; they are 48166, 
> 48656, and 48969.  If you're feeling froggy, go ahead and block them.
>
> As for my moral compass, it served me well for the past 37 years of 
> service to this country and through more wars than I can count.  Maybe you 
> too should try doing something worth while to mankind and quit stroking 
> your... ego all the time.
>
> As an end user, I have no more responsibility to protect 'your' product 
> than I would to protect Microsoft.  If 'you' aren't man enough for that 
> task, maybe 'you' should step aside and find someone who is.
>
> WM4B
>> On Oct 24, 2018 3:46 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/24/18 1:27 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B wrote:
>>> Amen!  The bickering is pointless and totally unproductive.  Grow up!
>>
>> The most unqualified people are telling the most qualified to shut up. 
>> You
>> are the one who needs to grow a moral compass and quit enabling bad 
>> behavior.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Bryan Fields
>>
>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> http://bryanfields.net
>> _______________________________________________
>> App_rpt-users mailing list
>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>
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From edbathgate at zoominternet.net  Wed Oct 24 21:26:29 2018
From: edbathgate at zoominternet.net (edbathgate at zoominternet.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:26:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Dtmf to script not working for me, addtl info
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1540382401.28074.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
References: <mailman.1.1540382401.28074.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
Message-ID: <1956188830.772847082.1540416389223.JavaMail.zimbra@zoominternet.net>

I should clarify on the software version I am running on X86.
AllStarLink Asterisk Version 1.01 2/13/2018 GIT Version 004b9dd
Copyright (C) 1999 - 2018 Digium, Inc. Jim Dixon, AllStarLink Inc. and others.
I get version "0.327" by rpt fun 29019 *723, = status,3 ; give software version (global) 

I tried same time stamp script on my 2nd node,29966, but it has no USB-audio module, it goes through the motions via command line.
29966 WILL write the time stamp to the file tr.dat from the Asterisk CLI> using !/path/script.   But I get the same behavior from the DTMF command called through rpt fun defined in rpt.conf.  Both nodes installed on similar hardware from the same USB install thumb drive.

Ideas?  Suggestions?




From kb4fxc at inttek.net  Wed Oct 24 21:29:13 2018
From: kb4fxc at inttek.net (David McGough)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:29:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <33f09c5c-f9ce-2e53-449f-604ed7e45b70@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810241714180.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>



Bryan,

You have have such a overactive imagination, you should seriously take up
writing fictional novels.  You might actually find your calling 
there---because what you've scribbled below is complete horse hockey.


73, David KB4FXC



On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:

> On 10/24/18 3:26 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an effort
> to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties working
> together.??
>
> As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for
> use in their DNS lookup system. 

This was access to pull the nodes list, not to ping, and poll all servers in
the cluster.  He was polling each server in the cluster, and sending ICMP at
other servers from that IP as well.  None of this was ever authorized when I
was on the board.

> In return David promised to deliver source
> code 

He's promised to deliver source code by distributing "his" HamVOIP software.
He has no license to distributed it without it.

He has promised me he would release his source in March.  This is not being
nice or working with him, it's a _requirement_ of the GPL, the license all our
code is under.  As John David has been unable to actually develop code on his
own, he's bound to abide by the license.

What is there to negotiate on?  He's breaking the law, and to demand he
follows the law is not controversial, it's basic morals.

> When that's
> complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working together.????
> 
> Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.????

Some one is committing an attack on the community and you as a board member
don't seem to want to rectify it.  I'm not content to sit on my hands and do
nothing about John David misdeeds.

People who support John David and people like him will be the downfall of good
software in amateur radio.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net
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From brett.friermood at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 21:41:36 2018
From: brett.friermood at gmail.com (Brett Friermood)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:41:36 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Welcome
Message-ID: <CADS0AtTyKV4Ufken8+cZ3f7S44GV67Azry2_v+DBsBjhyhyMPQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:01 PM walter <waltcarter30 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I feel the same way. I have been reading the posts for the last week and
> feel reluctant to ask questions. I hope you guys get over this.
> I think I will wait a while before I request help.
> Walt WB4LDS
>

Walter, and Steve, welcome to the world of AllStar Link.

If you have questions on the use of Asterisk and app_rpt, don't hesitate to
ask. There is a lot of technical experience available through this list and
I have never seen anyone berated for asking questions and trying to learn.
Just a small point, as with other forms of technical support a well written
and information rich message will do more to help both you and those
helping you than poorly laid out and written messages lacking detail.

As for today's ongoing discussion you referenced, there is much more
background than may be visible at face value. Most of the tension stems
from a small group of developers who basically forked the project a while
back and continue to maintain a closed source repository of their code.
General consensus is that the GNU GPL v2 license, under which Asterisk is
distributed, requires their code to be open-sourced, yet they have publicly
refused to do so.

A quick search of the internet will bring up many more discussions on that
topic as well as claims of other questionable activities by those
developers. As for some of the other replies to the thread, unfortunately
this list is a reflection of the greater world of amateur radio, and
similarly has the same broad spectrum of personalities.

Brett KQ9N
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From mcheavens at usa.net  Wed Oct 24 21:42:38 2018
From: mcheavens at usa.net (Mark Cheavens)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:42:38 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Dtmf to script not working for me, addtl info
In-Reply-To: <1956188830.772847082.1540416389223.JavaMail.zimbra@zoominternet.net>
References: <mailman.1.1540382401.28074.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
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Message-ID: <3EDFDFCF-13D9-402F-BE2B-B5A48C1ABE8E@usa.net>

I would suggest full paths to all calls in the script. Never assume the path exists.

Mark
Kc5eve

Sent from my iPhone
Please excuse brevity as well as Otto core-wrecked errors missed.

> On Oct 24, 2018, at 2:26 PM, edbathgate at zoominternet.net wrote:
> 
> I should clarify on the software version I am running on X86.
> AllStarLink Asterisk Version 1.01 2/13/2018 GIT Version 004b9dd
> Copyright (C) 1999 - 2018 Digium, Inc. Jim Dixon, AllStarLink Inc. and others.
> I get version "0.327" by rpt fun 29019 *723, = status,3 ; give software version (global) 
> 
> I tried same time stamp script on my 2nd node,29966, but it has no USB-audio module, it goes through the motions via command line.
> 29966 WILL write the time stamp to the file tr.dat from the Asterisk CLI> using !/path/script.   But I get the same behavior from the DTMF command called through rpt fun defined in rpt.conf.  Both nodes installed on similar hardware from the same USB install thumb drive.
> 
> Ideas?  Suggestions?
> 
> 
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From mwbesemer at cox.net  Wed Oct 24 22:15:54 2018
From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:15:54 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <rZ181y01L3GMMyX01Z1SLL>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
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Message-ID: <003601d46be7$21a3fe40$64ebfac0$@cox.net>

Walt/Steve,

Unless you're in it for the drama, I'd run away as fast as possible and never look back.  I've been here since April or so and it's constant sniping followed by full frontal attacks.  Then it calms down for a minute before it starts all over again.

Mike
WM4B

-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of walter
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:01 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13

I feel the same way. I have been reading the posts for the last week and 
feel reluctant to ask questions. I hope you guys get over this.
I think I will wait a while before I request help.
Walt WB4LDS

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:47 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13

I?m looking at adding Allstar to my two repeaters, and recently joined this 
list to learn more about the technology. I don?t understand the internal 
struggles here, since this is all new to me. So far, I?ve seen a lot of 
unpleasantness.

This looks like an environment which I?m probably best to steer clear of, 
until things settle out.

Steve N7TX

> On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:38, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Whatever floats your boat, Bryan.  I'm not a software developer, but I'm 
> also not a jerk.  You are, in my opinion, more of the latter than you are 
> the former.
>
> If you don't like me, kick my nodes off your servers.  I don't care 
> anymore.  ASL is not worth putting up with your prima-donna attitude.  You 
> guys are a running joke in much of the rest of the ham radio community; 
> too bad it's not funny to those of us stuck in the middle. If you're 
> worried about the demise of ham radio, try looking in the mirror...and 
> maybe go to confession.
>
> I've never done anything to you except disagree with you and you've 
> treated me like crap here and elsewhere.  At this point, whether you are 
> right or wrong is immaterial.  You can't go around abusing people just 
> because they disagree with you and expect people to put up with it.  I've 
> tried to play nice in your presence but it has done no good.  I've tried 
> to distance myself from you, but you make it a point to regularly come up 
> on the net to stir the pot.  It has gotten old; all the end users want is 
> a product the works and to not have to listen to this continuous battle.
>
> I'll save you the trouble of looking in my nodes numbers; they are 48166, 
> 48656, and 48969.  If you're feeling froggy, go ahead and block them.
>
> As for my moral compass, it served me well for the past 37 years of 
> service to this country and through more wars than I can count.  Maybe you 
> too should try doing something worth while to mankind and quit stroking 
> your... ego all the time.
>
> As an end user, I have no more responsibility to protect 'your' product 
> than I would to protect Microsoft.  If 'you' aren't man enough for that 
> task, maybe 'you' should step aside and find someone who is.
>
> WM4B
>> On Oct 24, 2018 3:46 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/24/18 1:27 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B wrote:
>>> Amen!  The bickering is pointless and totally unproductive.  Grow up!
>>
>> The most unqualified people are telling the most qualified to shut up. 
>> You
>> are the one who needs to grow a moral compass and quit enabling bad 
>> behavior.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Bryan Fields
>>
>> 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> http://bryanfields.net
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 22:21:14 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:21:14 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810241714180.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1810241714180.14655-100000@goliath.inttek.net>
Message-ID: <e8d49e8e-951f-7254-cd21-3ce3dacec0d6@bryanfields.net>

On 10/24/18 5:29 PM, David McGough wrote:
> Bryan,
> 
> You have have such a overactive imagination, you should seriously take up
> writing fictional novels.  You might actually find your calling 
> there---because what you've scribbled below is complete horse hockey.

Again, none of this addresses any of your ongoing crimes.  You have no license
to distribute hamvoip under than the GPLv2, yet you continue to do so.

Post your complete sources and stop distributing your unlicensed code.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 22:23:10 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:23:10 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
Message-ID: <2df81852-5cd7-dd2b-66e0-aeb28e58d83d@bryanfields.net>

On 10/24/18 4:38 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:
> As for my moral compass, it served me well for the past 37 years of service
> to this country and through more wars than I can count.  Maybe you too
> should try doing something worth while to mankind and quit stroking your...
> ego all the time.

You think waging war is contributing to man kind?  How sick.

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From mwbesemer at cox.net  Wed Oct 24 22:43:49 2018
From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:43:49 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <2df81852-5cd7-dd2b-66e0-aeb28e58d83d@bryanfields.net>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
 <2df81852-5cd7-dd2b-66e0-aeb28e58d83d@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <004c01d46beb$083fea00$18bfbe00$@cox.net>

Just because you don't have the balls to man up and put on a uniform to
defend the country doesn't make those of us who do warmongers.  We sacrifice
freely so you can sit at home on your fat butt, eat Cheetos and drink French
piss water, all while pretending to be something that you are not; human.
Your skills as a computer geek mean nothing; those who sacrifice for those
who they will never meet are the heart of this nation.

If you think for one microsecond that your opinion of me means a rats ass,
you are far more perverted than I thought.  Considering that I
self-actualized while the better part of you was still a wet spot on the
mattress, I couldn't give two hoots in hell what you think.  

If David and HamVoIP are criminals, then I suggest that you file charges
against them and have them brought to justice.  Otherwise, all you're doing
is running your fat, slobbering mouth and wasting oxygen badly needed but
actually human beings.  Your attitude toward preserving the memory and
wishes of Jim Dixon borders on perversion; how do you think he'd feel about
your behavior towards others on this list?  It he was half the man he was
purported to be, he'd be appalled.  And if he agrees with your behavior,
then perhaps his property isn't worth protecting anyway.

Do whatever the hell you want.  You will anyway.

WM4B



-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Fields
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:23 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13

On 10/24/18 4:38 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:
> As for my moral compass, it served me well for the past 37 years of
service
> to this country and through more wars than I can count.  Maybe you too
> should try doing something worth while to mankind and quit stroking
your...
> ego all the time.

You think waging war is contributing to man kind?  How sick.

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 22:49:34 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:49:34 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <004c01d46beb$083fea00$18bfbe00$@cox.net>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
 <2df81852-5cd7-dd2b-66e0-aeb28e58d83d@bryanfields.net>
 <004c01d46beb$083fea00$18bfbe00$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <ff7b2481-befc-17f8-0cad-d1b326a25ed2@bryanfields.net>

On 10/24/18 6:43 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:
> Just because you don't have the balls to man up and put on a uniform to
> defend the country doesn't make those of us who do warmongers.  We sacrifice
> freely so you can sit at home on your fat butt, eat Cheetos and drink French
> piss water, all while pretending to be something that you are not; human.
> Your skills as a computer geek mean nothing; those who sacrifice for those
> who they will never meet are the heart of this nation.

Can you explain how any of this makes you an authority deserving any respect
of your opinion on free software, or radio in general?

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From mm at midnighteng.com  Wed Oct 24 23:06:29 2018
From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:06:29 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Enough Already !
Message-ID: <dce435de-8d1f-b2eb-fc57-eff3b0e06039@midnighteng.com>


To me,
we all talk about things that are not exactly relevant to the 'GROUP'

I always feel that you have 3 messages to clean your pipes.

We are well past that point.
If you have grievances greater than you can conduct in that space, take 
it to the courts, social media or your own website.

We have herd all of the points at least once. What is left to achieve.

Gentleman, please be gentleman and do not make 'the group' suffer.

Get your messages on point of help in progression of app_rpt !
Or directly message each other.

It's our list and we thank you for remembering to keep it that way.
Act respectful and be respected.

...mike/kb8jnm


From mark at stennett.com  Wed Oct 24 23:11:28 2018
From: mark at stennett.com (mark at stennett.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:11:28 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <ff7b2481-befc-17f8-0cad-d1b326a25ed2@bryanfields.net>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
 <2df81852-5cd7-dd2b-66e0-aeb28e58d83d@bryanfields.net>
 <004c01d46beb$083fea00$18bfbe00$@cox.net>
 <ff7b2481-befc-17f8-0cad-d1b326a25ed2@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <349cadfc-52cf-4ac6-a748-7341de6bc2d4@Spark>

Good grief. Y?all remind me of this:

https://tinyurl.com/y7wg4ywv

Please knock it off and go wash your paws.

On Oct 24, 2018, 5:49 PM -0500, Bryan at bryanfields.net -- Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>, wrote:
> On 10/24/18 6:43 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:
> > Just because you don't have the balls to man up and put on a uniform to
> > defend the country doesn't make those of us who do warmongers. We sacrifice
> > freely so you can sit at home on your fat butt, eat Cheetos and drink French
> > piss water, all while pretending to be something that you are not; human.
> > Your skills as a computer geek mean nothing; those who sacrifice for those
> > who they will never meet are the heart of this nation.
>
> Can you explain how any of this makes you an authority deserving any respect
> of your opinion on free software, or radio in general?
>
> --
> Bryan Fields
>
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> http://bryanfields.net
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From mwbesemer at cox.net  Wed Oct 24 23:19:59 2018
From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:19:59 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <ff7b2481-befc-17f8-0cad-d1b326a25ed2@bryanfields.net>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
 <2df81852-5cd7-dd2b-66e0-aeb28e58d83d@bryanfields.net>
 <004c01d46beb$083fea00$18bfbe00$@cox.net>
 <ff7b2481-befc-17f8-0cad-d1b326a25ed2@bryanfields.net>
Message-ID: <005c01d46bf0$15d04200$4170c600$@cox.net>

It doesn't.  You brought it up, not me.  In fact, I think I made it
abundantly clear that I don't seek your respect;  hell, I'd probably puke if
you gave it to me.

My initial email was that I wished that the opposing powers would make nice
or at least shut the hell up on the email list.  Your reply was that I was
totally unqualified to speak about the legality of the software.  

Problem is, I NEVER addressed who is right and who is wrong; I only
expressed an opinion that you guys need to play nice or fight it out amongst
yourselves and leave the rest of us out of it; we don't have a dog in the
fight.  

Maybe if you did something to convince us mere mortals that you were right,
instead of crapping on us all the time, we'd fall in behind you.  Frankly,
most of us have no idea what the hell you're complaining about and your
attitude doesn't do anything to motivate us to figure it out. 

Maybe try a little honey instead of the load of shit you've been spewing.


WM4B

 


-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Fields
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:50 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13

On 10/24/18 6:43 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:
> Just because you don't have the balls to man up and put on a uniform to
> defend the country doesn't make those of us who do warmongers.  We
sacrifice
> freely so you can sit at home on your fat butt, eat Cheetos and drink
French
> piss water, all while pretending to be something that you are not; human.
> Your skills as a computer geek mean nothing; those who sacrifice for those
> who they will never meet are the heart of this nation.

Can you explain how any of this makes you an authority deserving any respect
of your opinion on free software, or radio in general?

-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Wed Oct 24 23:30:07 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:30:07 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <005c01d46bf0$15d04200$4170c600$@cox.net>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
 <2df81852-5cd7-dd2b-66e0-aeb28e58d83d@bryanfields.net>
 <004c01d46beb$083fea00$18bfbe00$@cox.net>
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Message-ID: <ee514922-ff8e-22b8-7b67-ba5a6de7f74a@bryanfields.net>

On 10/24/18 7:19 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:
> hell, I'd probably puke if you gave it to me.

I respect you and I am showing it by giving you a well written reply.

Simply put the basis of AllStar is free software.  AllStar Link is a network
of like minded people, and all it does is give out node numbers, verify users,
give out the node list and have some very basic linking requirements.  Anyone
may use app_rpt in their own network or change it for their needs under the GPL.

The contract here which enabled this is the GPL.  When bad actors in the
community violate the GPL, it's up to the community to kick them out.  People
such as yourself who condone and encourage this behavior are as much
responsible for destroying the community as they are.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From nhardman1428 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 23:37:11 2018
From: nhardman1428 at gmail.com (Nate Hardman)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:37:11 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] dtmf to script not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <1178677864.770357715.1540381485415.JavaMail.zimbra@zoominternet.net>
References: <1209923121.770286099.1540380373471.JavaMail.zimbra@zoominternet.net>
 <1178677864.770357715.1540381485415.JavaMail.zimbra@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <CAC9hojXOfU5Wbmsa81kAwaMsp8fB77g5pme3DsMiyfNbzb1XaQ@mail.gmail.com>

check the file and group permissions of the script and make sure Asterisk
has the OS permissions to run and modify the file.

$ ls -l filename.sh-rwxr-xr--  1 owner  group

quick try sudo chmod 777 <filename>  on each file and see if it works
for asterisk CLI


On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:44 AM <edbathgate at zoominternet.net> wrote:

> Issuses with running bash scripts from within allstar by DTMF. Host is X86
> type,  I'm logged in as root, file permissions set to 777 for both ab.sh
> and asd.dat. it works from linux cli, partially works from asterisk cli,
> !/path/script, and does not work from within rpt.conf.
> 713=cmd,/path/script.   Running asterisk version 0.327 installed about a
> month ago from iso file.   So story begins...
>
>
> This simple script prints 1234, prints the time/date and appends the time
> and date onto file asd.dat.
>
> /etc/asterisk$ cat script: ab.sh
>
> #!/bin/bash
> echo 1234
> date
> date >> asd.dat
>
>
> Script runs as it should from the command line of a linux console window
> /etc/asterisk$ ./ab.sh
> 1234
> Mon Oct 22 22:05:22 EDT 2018
> * Note the time ^^^
>
>
> Now to check the file and find 05:22:  cat asd.dat
>
> Mon Oct 22 22:05:05 EDT 2018
> Mon Oct 22 22:05:22 EDT 2018  <yay it worked
>
>
> But from within Asterisk CLI it only works 1/2 way:
> *CLI> !/etc/asterisk/ab.sh
> 1234
> Mon Oct 22 22:11:44 EDT 2018
> * Note the time ^^^ 6 minutes later, It printed within the asterisk CLI,
> but did not append to the file.
>
> cat asd.dat
> Mon Oct 22 22:05:05 EDT 2018
> Mon Oct 22 22:05:22 EDT 2018 < still the old time in the file. not 11:44,
> so run from asterisk CLI does not let script update the file??
>
> And even worse when I try to do this via the rpt.conf file:
>
>
> <snip> of rpt.conf
> 713 = !/etc/asterisk/ab.sh
> 714 = cmd,/etc/asterisk/ab.sh
> 715 = cmd,/etc/asterisk/nothere.sh
>
>
> command 713 does nothing, wrong syntax for rpt.conf but tried as a test
> anyway.,  714 tries to do something, but does not work., 715 should fail or
> report error as there is no file by that name but behaves same as 714.
> n3sdorpt2*CLI> rpt fun 29019 *713
> n3sdorpt2*CLI> rpt fun 29019 *714
> [Oct 22 23:32:28] NOTICE[20572]: app_rpt.c:4084 function_cmd: cmd param =
> /etc/asterisk/ab.sh, digitbuf =
> n3sdorpt2*CLI> rpt fun 29019 *715
> [Oct 22 23:33:55] NOTICE[20572]: app_rpt.c:4084 function_cmd: cmd param =
> /etc/asterisk/nothere.sh, digitbuf =
>
>
> I am doing something wrong or have things set wrong in the OS, or is this
> function been disabled?
>
> Please advise.  N3SDO
>
>
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-- 

Nathan Hardman
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From cnovey at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 00:16:18 2018
From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 17:16:18 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
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I agree. I stopped using HamVoIP when I learned it uses open source code and is closed. Not cool. Not legal.
KK6QMS

-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> On Behalf Of Michael Wolthuis
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:58 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org

David,
I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this as well.  Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code changes, source in general.  I agree this is the major sticking point for myself as well as someone who helps on these projects.  I am bringing in good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work deserves recognition through the use of common repo.  I mean, why not just branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this?  Just be the bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon.

We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity!  We can put this past behind us.

Mike
Kb8zgl


?On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:

    
    Tim,
    
    Agreed. And, well stated.  I great plan would be to have full DNS
    integration completed by Christmas 2018.  I think this is realistic goal, 
    if we work together and make it happen.
    
    
    
    73, David KB4FXC
    
    
    
    On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote:
    
    > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an
    > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties
    > working together.
    > 
    > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for
    > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source
    > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's
    > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working
    > together.
    > 
    > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.
    > 
    > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
    > 
    > >
    > > Bryan,
    > >
    > > LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control since
    > > 2004,
    > > yeah I think I'll claim it.
    > >
    > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo.
    > >
    > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN
    > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!
    > >
    > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the
    > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED
    > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS
    > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of
    > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board.
    > >
    > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under
    > > your rock.
    > >
    > >
    > > 73, David KB4FXC
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
    > >
    > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
    > > > > Bryan,
    > > > >
    > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
    > > >
    > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.
    > > >
    > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find
    > > censorship
    > > > necessary.
    > > >
    > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
    > > > >
    > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
    > > >
    > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be
    > > louder.
    > > >
    > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's been
    > > SWIP'd to
    > > > you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
    > > >
    > > > NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
    > > > CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
    > > > NetName:        INTERNET61-28
    > > > NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
    > > > Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
    > > > NetType:        Reassigned
    > > > OriginAS:
    > > > Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
    > > > RegDate:        2004-06-17
    > > > Updated:        2004-06-17
    > > > Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
    > > >
    > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
    > > > OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
    > > > OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
    > > > OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
    > > > OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
    > > >
    > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.
    > > Yea,
    > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > _______________________________________________
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From kuggie at kuggie.com  Thu Oct 25 02:03:17 2018
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 22:03:17 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <005c01d46bf0$15d04200$4170c600$@cox.net>
References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
 <2df81852-5cd7-dd2b-66e0-aeb28e58d83d@bryanfields.net>
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Message-ID: <d30dbf63-16f3-9338-179d-dfaec7b8744f@kuggie.com>

On 10/24/2018 7:19 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:
>   Frankly, most of us have no idea what the hell you're complaining about and your attitude doesn't do anything to motivate us to figure it out.

AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the 
project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK).? Jim is now passed on and was the 
inventor of AllStar Link.? He is also responsible for many aspects of 
Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes 
Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of 
several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an open source 
project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a 
paid application.? To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open 
source.? The AllStar project is protected by GPL, 
<https://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/1532.html> a license 
that's visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every 
derivative of it.

The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into 
continuing the AllStar Link project.? They are fully responsible for 
vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio 
operators), issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections 
between its members, and a website to make it all happen.? AllStarLink 
provides free support via several contact methods. ? AllStarLink is 
(mainly) funded by several individuals who regularly donate to it.? In 
other words, it's generally free to the users.? This doesn't mean it's 
free to maintain.? There are real monthly costs associated with running 
it.? I've personally carried the monthly fees myself.? I'm not 
mentioning this for any recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks 
know it's not free to make this project available to the amateur public.

Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with.? I had a 
few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself.? But, you soon learned 
that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted.

The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met 
with resistance from Jim.? That led to Jim making the statement that the 
folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please.? That's 
exactly what happened, but there's a catch....

If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things:
1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly.
2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public.

If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your 
version of the work.? What does this mean?

It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to 
redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the 
source code.

NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply 
complied, and released the source.?? Wouldn't that be the "right" thing 
to do?

HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or 
otherwise.? They are not responsible for the membership.? In recent 
months, they are quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't 
really have much to do with it.? They even go on to make a very negative 
public perception of all of the folks at AllStarLink. For example, just 
go look at their home page and read the section on "August 15, 2018".? 
While the transition of making the server stack more reliable and 
diverse didn't go exactly as planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons 
either.? Personally, attacks like this hurt the core of what we're 
trying to do - continue with a great project. They hurt me and the rest 
of the team personally - but we're supposed to pretend they don't 
exist.? Bryan has more time (and possibly more money) in the AllStar 
project than anyone else since Jim's passing.? Maybe now you understand 
his position more clearly. AllStarLink is responsible for the most of 
it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY are AllStar, but they're 
not.? And - now you know why.

Kevin Custer W3KKC
Board Member
AllStarLink, Inc.



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From shawpbx at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 03:39:42 2018
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:39:42 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
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How do you get off this list. I mean WOW. One would think they are watching
CNN (HamVoIP) on one TV and Fox (AllStar) on the other.


--
Thanks, David




On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:16 PM cnovey <cnovey at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree. I stopped using HamVoIP when I learned it uses open source code
> and is closed. Not cool. Not legal.
> KK6QMS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> On
> Behalf Of Michael Wolthuis
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:58 PM
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
>
> David,
> I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this as
> well.  Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code
> changes, source in general.  I agree this is the major sticking point for
> myself as well as someone who helps on these projects.  I am bringing in
> good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work
> deserves recognition through the use of common repo.  I mean, why not just
> branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this?  Just be the
> bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon.
>
> We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity!
> We can put this past behind us.
>
> Mike
> Kb8zgl
>
>
> ?On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <
> app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>     Tim,
>
>     Agreed. And, well stated.  I great plan would be to have full DNS
>     integration completed by Christmas 2018.  I think this is realistic
> goal,
>     if we work together and make it happen.
>
>
>
>     73, David KB4FXC
>
>
>
>     On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>
>     > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In
> an
>     > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the
> parties
>     > working together.
>     >
>     > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to
> HamVoIP for
>     > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver
> source
>     > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When
> that's
>     > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working
>     > together.
>     >
>     > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common
> interest.
>     >
>     > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> wrote:
>     >
>     > >
>     > > Bryan,
>     > >
>     > > LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control
> since
>     > > 2004,
>     > > yeah I think I'll claim it.
>     > >
>     > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at
> my CoLo.
>     > >
>     > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS
> ALSO BEEN
>     > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!
>     > >
>     > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of
> the
>     > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS
> PUBLISHED
>     > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP
> DNS
>     > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a
> member of
>     > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board.
>     > >
>     > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back
> under
>     > > your rock.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > 73, David KB4FXC
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
>     > >
>     > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
>     > > > > Bryan,
>     > > > >
>     > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
>     > > >
>     > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor
> people.
>     > > >
>     > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find
>     > > censorship
>     > > > necessary.
>     > > >
>     > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
>     > > > >
>     > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
>     > > >
>     > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument,
> simply be
>     > > louder.
>     > > >
>     > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's
> been
>     > > SWIP'd to
>     > > > you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
>     > > >
>     > > > NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
>     > > > CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
>     > > > NetName:        INTERNET61-28
>     > > > NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
>     > > > Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
>     > > > NetType:        Reassigned
>     > > > OriginAS:
>     > > > Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
>     > > > RegDate:        2004-06-17
>     > > > Updated:        2004-06-17
>     > > > Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
>     > > >
>     > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
>     > > > OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
>     > > > OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
>     > > > OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
>     > > > OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
>     > > >
>     > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of
> ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.
>     > > Yea,
>     > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
>     > > >
>     > > >
>     > >
>     > > _______________________________________________
>     > > App_rpt-users mailing list
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 03:44:20 +0000
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
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From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> On Behalf Of David Shaw
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:40 PM
To: APP RPT <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org

How do you get off this list. I mean WOW. One would think they are watching CNN (HamVoIP) on one TV and Fox (AllStar) on the other.


--
Thanks, David




On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:16 PM cnovey <cnovey at gmail.com<mailto:cnovey at gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree. I stopped using HamVoIP when I learned it uses open source code and is closed. Not cool. Not legal.
KK6QMS

-----Original Message-----
From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org>> On Behalf Of Michael Wolthuis
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:58 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org<mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org<http://docs.allstarlink.org>

David,
I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this as well.  Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code changes, source in general.  I agree this is the major sticking point for myself as well as someone who helps on these projects.  I am bringing in good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work deserves recognition through the use of common repo.  I mean, why not just branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this?  Just be the bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon.

We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity!  We can put this past behind us.

Mike
Kb8zgl


?On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> on behalf of kb4fxc at inttek.net<mailto:kb4fxc at inttek.net>> wrote:


    Tim,

    Agreed. And, well stated.  I great plan would be to have full DNS
    integration completed by Christmas 2018.  I think this is realistic goal,
    if we work together and make it happen.



    73, David KB4FXC



    On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote:

    > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In an
    > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the parties
    > working together.
    >
    > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to HamVoIP for
    > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver source
    > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When that's
    > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working
    > together.
    >
    > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common interest.
    >
    > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net<mailto:kb4fxc at inttek.net>> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Bryan,
    > >
    > > LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23<http://12.17.28.0/23> has been under my control since
    > > 2004,
    > > yeah I think I'll claim it.
    > >
    > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at my CoLo.
    > >
    > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org<http://hamvoip.org> DNS lookup system. IT HAS ALSO BEEN
    > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month ago!
    > >
    > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of the
    > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS PUBLISHED
    > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP DNS
    > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a member of
    > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board.
    > >
    > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl back under
    > > your rock.
    > >
    > >
    > > 73, David KB4FXC
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
    > >
    > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
    > > > > Bryan,
    > > > >
    > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
    > > >
    > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor people.
    > > >
    > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find
    > > censorship
    > > > necessary.
    > > >
    > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
    > > > >
    > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
    > > >
    > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument, simply be
    > > louder.
    > > >
    > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's been
    > > SWIP'd to
    > > > you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
    > > >
    > > > NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
    > > > CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23<http://12.17.28.0/23>
    > > > NetName:        INTERNET61-28
    > > > NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
    > > > Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
    > > > NetType:        Reassigned
    > > > OriginAS:
    > > > Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
    > > > RegDate:        2004-06-17
    > > > Updated:        2004-06-17
    > > > Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
    > > >
    > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
    > > > OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
    > > > OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
    > > > OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net<mailto:jdmcgough at inttek.net>
    > > > OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
    > > >
    > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of ns.nodes.hamvoip.org<http://ns.nodes.hamvoip.org>.
    > > Yea,
    > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > _______________________________________________
    > > App_rpt-users mailing list
    > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org<mailto:App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
    > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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From kuggie at kuggie.com  Thu Oct 25 03:47:36 2018
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 23:47:36 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
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On 10/24/2018 11:39 PM, David Shaw wrote:
> How do you get off this list.

It's evident that few people read anymore.

To unsubscribe, use the instructions that follow EACH message (at the 
bottom - in the footer).

Sheesh....





From n3fe at repeater.net  Thu Oct 25 04:30:44 2018
From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:30:44 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
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The link is at the bottom.  Help yourself...

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:40 PM David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:

> How do you get off this list. I mean WOW. One would think they are
> watching CNN (HamVoIP) on one TV and Fox (AllStar) on the other.
>
>
> --
> Thanks, David
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:16 PM cnovey <cnovey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree. I stopped using HamVoIP when I learned it uses open source code
>> and is closed. Not cool. Not legal.
>> KK6QMS
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> On
>> Behalf Of Michael Wolthuis
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:58 PM
>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
>>
>> David,
>> I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this
>> as well.  Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code
>> changes, source in general.  I agree this is the major sticking point for
>> myself as well as someone who helps on these projects.  I am bringing in
>> good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work
>> deserves recognition through the use of common repo.  I mean, why not just
>> branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this?  Just be the
>> bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon.
>>
>> We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity!
>> We can put this past behind us.
>>
>> Mike
>> Kb8zgl
>>
>>
>> ?On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <
>> app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of
>> kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Tim,
>>
>>     Agreed. And, well stated.  I great plan would be to have full DNS
>>     integration completed by Christmas 2018.  I think this is realistic
>> goal,
>>     if we work together and make it happen.
>>
>>
>>
>>     73, David KB4FXC
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>>
>>     > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop. In
>> an
>>     > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the
>> parties
>>     > working together.
>>     >
>>     > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to
>> HamVoIP for
>>     > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to deliver
>> source
>>     > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When
>> that's
>>     > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working
>>     > together.
>>     >
>>     > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common
>> interest.
>>     >
>>     > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > >
>>     > > Bryan,
>>     > >
>>     > > LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control
>> since
>>     > > 2004,
>>     > > yeah I think I'll claim it.
>>     > >
>>     > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at
>> my CoLo.
>>     > >
>>     > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS
>> ALSO BEEN
>>     > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month
>> ago!
>>     > >
>>     > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy of
>> the
>>     > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS
>> PUBLISHED
>>     > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the HamVoIP
>> DNS
>>     > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a
>> member of
>>     > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board.
>>     > >
>>     > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl
>> back under
>>     > > your rock.
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > > 73, David KB4FXC
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
>>     > >
>>     > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
>>     > > > > Bryan,
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
>>     > > >
>>     > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to censor
>> people.
>>     > > >
>>     > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find
>>     > > censorship
>>     > > > necessary.
>>     > > >
>>     > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
>>     > > > >
>>     > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
>>     > > >
>>     > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument,
>> simply be
>>     > > louder.
>>     > > >
>>     > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's
>> been
>>     > > SWIP'd to
>>     > > > you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
>>     > > >
>>     > > > NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
>>     > > > CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
>>     > > > NetName:        INTERNET61-28
>>     > > > NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
>>     > > > Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
>>     > > > NetType:        Reassigned
>>     > > > OriginAS:
>>     > > > Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
>>     > > > RegDate:        2004-06-17
>>     > > > Updated:        2004-06-17
>>     > > > Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
>>     > > >
>>     > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
>>     > > > OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
>>     > > > OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
>>     > > > OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
>>     > > > OrgTechRef:
>> https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
>>     > > >
>>     > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of
>> ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.
>>     > > Yea,
>>     > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > >
>>     > > _______________________________________________
>>     > > App_rpt-users mailing list
>>     > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>     > >
>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>>     > >
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Thu Oct 25 11:55:58 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 07:55:58 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] dtmf to script not working for me.
In-Reply-To: <1178677864.770357715.1540381485415.JavaMail.zimbra@zoominternet.net>
References: <1178677864.770357715.1540381485415.JavaMail.zimbra@zoominternet.net>
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On 10/24/18 7:44 AM, edbathgate at zoominternet.net wrote:

> This simple script prints 1234, prints the time/date and appends the time and date onto file asd.dat. 
> 
> /etc/asterisk$ cat script: ab.sh 
> 
> #!/bin/bash 
> echo 1234 
> date 
> date >> asd.dat 

You are missing an absolute path for the asd.dat file you're writing to.
Lacking this, the script will run with the working directory of the parent
process when run from asterisk via DTMF.  When run from the cli it will use
your shells current working directory.

> Script runs as it should from the command line of a linux console window 
> /etc/asterisk$ ./ab.sh 
> 1234 
> Mon Oct 22 22:05:22 EDT 2018 
> * Note the time ^^^ 
> 
> Now to check the file and find 05:22: cat asd.dat 
> 
> Mon Oct 22 22:05:05 EDT 2018 
> Mon Oct 22 22:05:22 EDT 2018 <yay it worked 

> But from within Asterisk CLI it only works 1/2 way: 
> *CLI> !/etc/asterisk/ab.sh 
> 1234 
> Mon Oct 22 22:11:44 EDT 2018 
> * Note the time ^^^ 6 minutes later, It printed within the asterisk CLI, but did not append to the file. 

It did append to a file, just not that file!

I bet you will have a file /asd.dat now.   If you find the PID of the asterisk
process, you can look under /proc/$PID/cwd and that's a symlink to the current
working directory of the asterisk process.

> 714 = cmd,/etc/asterisk/ab.sh 

This is working, just fine I might add.  Your issue is the bash script you're
running (and generally it runs as root) needs an absolute path.

Fix that path and let us know if it works.

73s
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net


From shawpbx at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 14:28:28 2018
From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 07:28:28 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
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Thanks Everyone.


--
Thanks, David



On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:31 PM Corey Dean <n3fe at repeater.net> wrote:

> The link is at the bottom.  Help yourself...
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:40 PM David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How do you get off this list. I mean WOW. One would think they are
>> watching CNN (HamVoIP) on one TV and Fox (AllStar) on the other.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks, David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:16 PM cnovey <cnovey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. I stopped using HamVoIP when I learned it uses open source code
>>> and is closed. Not cool. Not legal.
>>> KK6QMS
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> On
>>> Behalf Of Michael Wolthuis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:58 PM
>>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] docs.allstarlink.org
>>>
>>> David,
>>> I think the community is looking to you to honor the other side of this
>>> as well.  Yet you make no mention of releasing code improvements, code
>>> changes, source in general.  I agree this is the major sticking point for
>>> myself as well as someone who helps on these projects.  I am bringing in
>>> good friends to also help code and work on app_rpt and everyone's work
>>> deserves recognition through the use of common repo.  I mean, why not just
>>> branch it and make a HamVoip branch and be done with all this?  Just be the
>>> bigger man and put your wonderful code out there for others to grow upon.
>>>
>>> We can then start working towards a common goal together through unity!
>>> We can put this past behind us.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> Kb8zgl
>>>
>>>
>>> ?On 10/24/18, 3:48 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of David McGough" <
>>> app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of
>>> kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Tim,
>>>
>>>     Agreed. And, well stated.  I great plan would be to have full DNS
>>>     integration completed by Christmas 2018.  I think this is realistic
>>> goal,
>>>     if we work together and make it happen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     73, David KB4FXC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>>>
>>>     > I would very much like the name calling and accusations to stop.
>>> In an
>>>     > effort to calm things down I would like to mention an item of the
>>> parties
>>>     > working together.
>>>     >
>>>     > As David mentioned, a board member (me) gave nodelist access to
>>> HamVoIP for
>>>     > use in their DNS lookup system. In return David promised to
>>> deliver source
>>>     > code to enable non-HamVoIP nodes access to the DNS system. When
>>> that's
>>>     > complete we all will have a better AllStar as a result of working
>>>     > together.
>>>     >
>>>     > Lets quit ripping into each other and focus on areas of common
>>> interest.
>>>     >
>>>     > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:10 AM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     > >
>>>     > > Bryan,
>>>     > >
>>>     > > LMAO.  Well, seeing as 12.17.28.0/23 has been under my control
>>> since
>>>     > > 2004,
>>>     > > yeah I think I'll claim it.
>>>     > >
>>>     > > As for the 12.17.29.168 IP address, that is assigned to a VPS at
>>> my CoLo.
>>>     > >
>>>     > > Yep, it was used for the hamvoip.org DNS lookup system. IT HAS
>>> ALSO BEEN
>>>     > > DOWN SINCE HURRICANE FLORENCE, ABOUT 09/14/2018---over a month
>>> ago!
>>>     > >
>>>     > > As for "TESTING," all that system EVER did was retrieve a copy
>>> of the
>>>     > > published nodelist file once about every 30 seconds from the DNS
>>> PUBLISHED
>>>     > > AllStarLink registration system. The was for use with the
>>> HamVoIP DNS
>>>     > > lookup system. I was officially granted access to do this by a
>>> member of
>>>     > > the AllStarLink, Inc., board.
>>>     > >
>>>     > > So, unless you've got anything else (which you don't!), crawl
>>> back under
>>>     > > your rock.
>>>     > >
>>>     > >
>>>     > > 73, David KB4FXC
>>>     > >
>>>     > >
>>>     > >
>>>     > >
>>>     > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
>>>     > >
>>>     > > > On 10/24/18 2:09 AM, David McGough wrote:
>>>     > > > > Bryan,
>>>     > > > >
>>>     > > > > I'm calling you out on this BULLSH*T.
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > > You can say Bullshit here, we don't find it necessary to
>>> censor people.
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > > Only people lacking in reason and critical thinking skills find
>>>     > > censorship
>>>     > > > necessary.
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > > > WHAT SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ARE THESE "TESTS" COMING FROM???
>>>     > > > >
>>>     > > > > THEY ARE NOT COMING FROM ANY OF MY SUBNETS!
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > > The first rule of arguing, if you lack a superior argument,
>>> simply be
>>>     > > louder.
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > > While technically true, you don't own the subnet listed.  It's
>>> been
>>>     > > SWIP'd to
>>>     > > > you be ATT.  Ipso facto, it's under your control.
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > > NetRange:       12.17.28.0 - 12.17.29.255
>>>     > > > CIDR:           12.17.28.0/23
>>>     > > > NetName:        INTERNET61-28
>>>     > > > NetHandle:      NET-12-17-28-0-1
>>>     > > > Parent:         ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
>>>     > > > NetType:        Reassigned
>>>     > > > OriginAS:
>>>     > > > Organization:   INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES INC. ACC (ITIA-1)
>>>     > > > RegDate:        2004-06-17
>>>     > > > Updated:        2004-06-17
>>>     > > > Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/12.17.28.0
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > > OrgTechHandle: DMC131-ARIN
>>>     > > > OrgTechName:   Mcgough, Dave
>>>     > > > OrgTechPhone:  +1-910-792-1786
>>>     > > > OrgTechEmail:  jdmcgough at inttek.net
>>>     > > > OrgTechRef:
>>> https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DMC131-ARIN
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > > 12.17.29.168 is one such IP, and it's got a PTR of
>>> ns.nodes.hamvoip.org.
>>>     > > Yea,
>>>     > > > I must be lying, as criminals never lie.
>>>     > > >
>>>     > > >
>>>     > >
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From edbathgate at zoominternet.net  Thu Oct 25 17:50:41 2018
From: edbathgate at zoominternet.net (edbathgate at zoominternet.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:50:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [App_rpt-users] dtmf to script not working for me.  FIXED
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1540468801.30713.app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
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Message-ID: <1270379221.777058058.1540489841780.JavaMail.zimbra@zoominternet.net>

Bryan, Nate, Mark, Thanks for the help!   Yep, the lack of a path preceding the timestamp file was my problem!
I found an /asd.dat file in the root directory that had a bunch of entries in it!  The DTMF to script line was working days ago, but the script was putting the data where I was not looking.  I also found one in /root/asd.dat

> 714 = cmd,/etc/asterisk/ab.sh   ; has been putting date-time in /asd.dat, not /etc/asterisk/ast.dat 

I also found that when I ran it from CLI> !/etc/asterisk/ab.sh   ; it was putting the stamps in /root/asd.dat.

CLI> !pwd     returns /root.

But the script worked when I was linux prompt and #cd /etc/asterisk   then #./ab.sh  ;because I was in that working directory... now it all makes sense!

THE SKY OPENED UP, THE SUN SHOWN FROM ABOVE, ANGELS SANG!  I SEE THE LIGHT!

The corrected version of the test script:
>/etc/asterisk$ cat script: ab.sh 
> #!/bin/bash 
> echo 1234 
> date 
> date >> /etc/asterisk/asd.dat 

THANKS GUYS!!!   
Ed N3SDO





From george at dyb.com  Thu Oct 25 17:54:38 2018
From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 12:54:38 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] This is getting too intense. Its a hobby,
 a great one...
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References: <20181024203810.UJTK5822.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
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Sums it up perfectly, Kevin.

I tried hamvoip's distro and yeah it works. But trying to adjust things 
was not easy. Arch Linux is off the beaten path and while it works well 
on desktop in a GUI it leaves much to be desired/learned on command 
line. I also needed to make a modification? to the app_rpt.c file. Oops, 
brick wall. This was early last year, and when I asked about the source 
I was told it is coming soon. Next March isn't soon. In fact today isn't 
soon.

I'm not going to get in the fray over GPL, I sure understand it and 
agree with it. I think it would be in the ham spirit to release the 
source. To keep it hidden is not in the ham spirit at all. The software 
isn't being sold so I really can't grasp why the source isn't released.

But now seeing so much of that software being used in Baofang simplex 
nodes and now a PC release being made makes me think they are trying to 
devolve Allstar into an Echolink clone. Yuk to that.

They'd be doing best to break from Allstar, assign separate node numbers 
from a different block of numbers. Then they can have their DNS solution 
and everybody would be happy.

And always remember, it's a hobby.

For those who chimed in with comments about going away, if a few emails 
do that to you maybe you're in the wrong place to begin with. Get the 
code and use it. Ignore the bomb-tossing. set up your repeater. There is 
nothing complicated at all to making it work. Trust me, I've been using 
Allstar since 2009. My primary node number is 2360. Yeah, I needed a few 
pointers, which came from Jim and Steve W9SH. Got it figured out. Jim 
helped me modify the source to do what I needed.

Y'all take it easy.

GeorgeC W2DB 2360, 28599


On 10/24/2018 9:03 PM, Kevin Custer wrote:
> On 10/24/2018 7:19 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:
>>   Frankly, most of us have no idea what the hell you're complaining about and your attitude doesn't do anything to motivate us to figure it out.
>
> AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the 
> project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK).? Jim is now passed on and was 
> the inventor of AllStar Link.? He is also responsible for many aspects 
> of Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that 
> makes Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, 
> capable of several ports per computer host. AllStar has always been an 
> open source project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it 
> outright, or as a paid application.? To say the very least, Jim Dixon 
> was all about open source.? The AllStar project is protected by GPL, 
> <https://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/1532.html> a license 
> that's visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every 
> derivative of it.
>
> The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into 
> continuing the AllStar Link project.? They are fully responsible for 
> vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio 
> operators), issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections 
> between its members, and a website to make it all happen.? AllStarLink 
> provides free support via several contact methods. ? AllStarLink is 
> (mainly) funded by several individuals who regularly donate to it.? In 
> other words, it's generally free to the users.? This doesn't mean it's 
> free to maintain.? There are real monthly costs associated with 
> running it.? I've personally carried the monthly fees myself.? I'm not 
> mentioning this for any recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks 
> know it's not free to make this project available to the amateur public.
>
> Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with.? I had 
> a few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself.? But, you soon 
> learned that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted.
>
> The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly 
> met with resistance from Jim.? That led to Jim making the statement 
> that the folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they 
> please.? That's exactly what happened, but there's a catch....
>
> If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things:
> 1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it 
> publicly.
> 2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public.
>
> If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute 
> your version of the work.? What does this mean?
>
> It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to 
> redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the 
> source code.
>
> NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply 
> complied, and released the source.?? Wouldn't that be the "right" 
> thing to do?
>
> HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or 
> otherwise.? They are not responsible for the membership.? In recent 
> months, they are quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they 
> don't really have much to do with it.? They even go on to make a very 
> negative public perception of all of the folks at AllStarLink.? For 
> example, just go look at their home page and read the section on 
> "August 15, 2018".? While the transition of making the server stack 
> more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as planned, we're not a 
> bunch of buffoons either. Personally, attacks like this hurt the core 
> of what we're trying to do - continue with a great project.? They hurt 
> me and the rest of the team personally - but we're supposed to pretend 
> they don't exist.? Bryan has more time (and possibly more money) in 
> the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing.? Maybe now 
> you understand his position more clearly.? AllStarLink is responsible 
> for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY are 
> AllStar, but they're not.? And - now you know why.
>
> Kevin Custer W3KKC
> Board Member
> AllStarLink, Inc.
>
>
>
-- 
George Csahanin
10100 Carson Ranch Rd.
Crowley, TX 76036
682-708-5710 office
401-338-0568 cel
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From ke6pcv at cal-net.org  Thu Oct 25 20:38:54 2018
From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:38:54 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
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Kevin, 

 

I would like to thank you for your thoughtful and correct response. 

 

I have been around Allstarlink since the early days. 

 

I was a close friend to Jim Dixon.  I personally know the full story.

 

Your summary below is factual and true.

 

I appreciate your detailed explanation to the AllstarLink community. 

 

Everyone in the AllstarLink community deserves the true story of what has actually happened and what is actually happening so that they can be informed about actual facts and not fiction.  

 

Hopefully with your summary and explanation all reading posts on this list can understand that the folks at AllstarLink, Inc. are only trying to help the ham community and the Allstarlink cause.

 

AllstarLink, Inc. has a bunch of great people that silently work behind the scenes, they donate personal time, money and talents for the cause.  All the while, the "Allstarlink technology just magically keeps working for the AllstarLink users" . 

 

Those same folks working behind the scenes for AllstarLink, Inc. can only take so many of the lies, miss representations, and half truths told from this other group (mainly two individuals),  before the AllstarLink, Inc. guys feel the need to set the record straight.

 

Some of you on the list have made known your displeasure of all these posts regarding politics via this email list. 

 

If it really bothers you, please, please, please just hit the delete button and move on to the next email. 

 

Sometimes the record needs to be set straight. 

 

Yes this list is about learning and helping others. For the new folks on here,  do not hesitate to ask questions on the list. 

 

There are many folks here that will help out. 

 

73

 

Marshall - ke6pcv

 

 

 

 

From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:03 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13

 

On 10/24/2018 7:19 PM, Mike Besemer wrote:

 Frankly, most of us have no idea what the hell you're complaining about and your attitude doesn't do anything to motivate us to figure it out.


AllStarLink, Inc. is an assembly of people selected to carry out the project and vision of Jim Dixon (SK).  Jim is now passed on and was the inventor of AllStar Link.  He is also responsible for many aspects of Asterisk and mainly wrote the app_rpt software application that makes Asterisk capable of being a full blown repeater controller, capable of several ports per computer host.  AllStar has always been an open source project, as Jim Dixon had no interest in selling it outright, or as a paid application.  To say the very least, Jim Dixon was all about open source.  The AllStar project is protected by GPL, <https://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/1532.html>  a license that's visible when viewing the Source Code of AllStarLink and every derivative of it.

The folks at AllStarLink put a lot of time, effort, and money into continuing the AllStar Link project.  They are fully responsible for vetting new members (making sure they a licensed amateur radio operators), issuing node numbers, running servers to allow connections between its members, and a website to make it all happen.  AllStarLink provides free support via several contact methods.   AllStarLink is (mainly) funded by several individuals who regularly donate to it.  In other words, it's generally free to the users.  This doesn't mean it's free to maintain.  There are real monthly costs associated with running it.  I've personally carried the monthly fees myself.  I'm not mentioning this for any recognition - I'm simply trying to let folks know it's not free to make this project available to the amateur public.  

Jim Dixon was a brilliant man, but not a easy one to work with.  I had a few uncomfortable conversations with Jim myself.  But, you soon learned that it was what it was, and you played as he wanted.

The folks at HamVoIP had several ideas of their own and were mostly met with resistance from Jim.  That led to Jim making the statement that the folks at HamVoIP should fork the project, and do as they please.  That's exactly what happened, but there's a catch....  

If you fork a project protected by the GPL, you must do one of two things:
1 - Use it for your own purposes and NOT distribute or support it publicly.
2 - Comply with the GPL and release your changes to the public.

If (and only if) you do the latter, are you allowed to redistribute your version of the work.  What does this mean?

It's perfectly legal to fork a Linux project, but, if you are going to redistribute a derivative to the general public, you MUST release the source code.

NO ONE would have an issue with the HamVoIP project if they simply complied, and released the source.   Wouldn't that be the "right" thing to do?  

HamVoIP does not directly support the project financially, or otherwise.  They are not responsible for the membership.  In recent months, they are quick to take credit for all of AllStar, but they don't really have much to do with it.  They even go on to make a very negative public perception of all of the folks at AllStarLink.  For example, just go look at their home page and read the section on "August 15, 2018".  While the transition of making the server stack more reliable and diverse didn't go exactly as planned, we're not a bunch of buffoons either.  Personally, attacks like this hurt the core of what we're trying to do - continue with a great project.  They hurt me and the rest of the team personally - but we're supposed to pretend they don't exist.  Bryan has more time (and possibly more money) in the AllStar project than anyone else since Jim's passing.  Maybe now you understand his position more clearly.  AllStarLink is responsible for the most of it, but HamVoIP has led people to believe THEY are AllStar, but they're not.  And - now you know why.  

Kevin Custer W3KKC
Board Member
AllStarLink, Inc.




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From petem001 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 22:05:38 2018
From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 18:05:38 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
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Been here since 2008 if not 2007. And the problem started with the hamvoip
group bitching on the audio of usb radio compare to the simple usb sound .
That was when they were trying to make it run on the beagle bone black or
BBB. It was obvious that the processr on the bbb was not able to do dsp so
they started to "rework the spagetti code" they claimed app_rpt was. This
was of course before the hamvoip group was even named like that.  And from
that came the request to show the proof of that supposed improvement. They
did give at least one fix, but I dont remember if it was even about audio.

So if you want less drama, why dont you tell your pal at hamvoip to line up
with the rest of the developper and to do some real opensource stuff. This
would really cut on the drama.. Someone said we need to act like grown up.
Being grown up as nothing to do about accepting bickering from other people
about action from a third party. They want to keep there work to them,
fine, but they ned to support the user of the work they claim to be there
own.

Le mer. 24 oct. 2018 ? 18:16, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer at cox.net> a ?crit :

> Walt/Steve,
>
> Unless you're in it for the drama, I'd run away as fast as possible and
> never look back.  I've been here since April or so and it's constant
> sniping followed by full frontal attacks.  Then it calms down for a minute
> before it starts all over again.
>
> Mike
> WM4B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org]
> On Behalf Of walter
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:01 PM
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
>
> I feel the same way. I have been reading the posts for the last week and
> feel reluctant to ask questions. I hope you guys get over this.
> I think I will wait a while before I request help.
> Walt WB4LDS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Thompson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:47 PM
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13
>
> I?m looking at adding Allstar to my two repeaters, and recently joined
> this
> list to learn more about the technology. I don?t understand the internal
> struggles here, since this is all new to me. So far, I?ve seen a lot of
> unpleasantness.
>
> This looks like an environment which I?m probably best to steer clear of,
> until things settle out.
>
> Steve N7TX
>
> > On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:38, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > Whatever floats your boat, Bryan.  I'm not a software developer, but I'm
> > also not a jerk.  You are, in my opinion, more of the latter than you
> are
> > the former.
> >
> > If you don't like me, kick my nodes off your servers.  I don't care
> > anymore.  ASL is not worth putting up with your prima-donna attitude.
> You
> > guys are a running joke in much of the rest of the ham radio community;
> > too bad it's not funny to those of us stuck in the middle. If you're
> > worried about the demise of ham radio, try looking in the mirror...and
> > maybe go to confession.
> >
> > I've never done anything to you except disagree with you and you've
> > treated me like crap here and elsewhere.  At this point, whether you are
> > right or wrong is immaterial.  You can't go around abusing people just
> > because they disagree with you and expect people to put up with it.
> I've
> > tried to play nice in your presence but it has done no good.  I've tried
> > to distance myself from you, but you make it a point to regularly come
> up
> > on the net to stir the pot.  It has gotten old; all the end users want
> is
> > a product the works and to not have to listen to this continuous battle.
> >
> > I'll save you the trouble of looking in my nodes numbers; they are
> 48166,
> > 48656, and 48969.  If you're feeling froggy, go ahead and block them.
> >
> > As for my moral compass, it served me well for the past 37 years of
> > service to this country and through more wars than I can count.  Maybe
> you
> > too should try doing something worth while to mankind and quit stroking
> > your... ego all the time.
> >
> > As an end user, I have no more responsibility to protect 'your' product
> > than I would to protect Microsoft.  If 'you' aren't man enough for that
> > task, maybe 'you' should step aside and find someone who is.
> >
> > WM4B
> >> On Oct 24, 2018 3:46 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/24/18 1:27 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B wrote:
> >>> Amen!  The bickering is pointless and totally unproductive.  Grow up!
> >>
> >> The most unqualified people are telling the most qualified to shut up.
> >> You
> >> are the one who needs to grow a moral compass and quit enabling bad
> >> behavior.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bryan Fields
> >>
> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> >> http://bryanfields.net
> >> _______________________________________________
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From tisawyer at gmail.com  Sat Oct 27 13:47:03 2018
From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 06:47:03 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Personnel Update
Message-ID: <CAG3ht9sVD9GBAaifX38XyCKzLcvNk7d95txNvraWFMUBaM52ww@mail.gmail.com>

Just want to update you on the status of personnel at AllStarLink, Inc.
Things normally fluctuate in a volunteer group and we want to keep everyone
up to date as to what is happening.


Todd Lesser - KM6RPT has joined the board.  Todd is a new ham with a strong
interest in Allstar.  He was friends with and worked professionally with
Jim Dixon for almost 30 years.  He was part of the development team on the
Zapata Telephony project that created the technology that Allstar uses.


Tim Sawyer - WD6AWP has rejoined the board after a short absence. Tim is a
repeater owner and developer of Allmon.


Bryan Fields - W9CR has chosen to leave the board. Bryan will remain a key
developer of AllStarLink infrastructure.


Pete Elke - WI6H is a current member of the AllStarLink board. Pete brings
management and communications skills to the board.


Kevin Custer - W3KKC remains on the board. Kevin is the founder of
repeater-builder.com <http://repeaterbuilder.com/> and is active with the
WAN repeater system.


Dave Shaw - WB6WTM has accepted the role of treasurer. Dave recently served
as a Director and Treasurer for NARCC (The Northern California Repeater
Coordination Council).

-- 
Tim WD6AWP
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From Bryan at bryanfields.net  Sat Oct 27 15:23:20 2018
From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:23:20 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Personnel Update
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On 10/27/18 9:47 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote:

> Bryan Fields - W9CR has chosen to leave the board. Bryan will remain a
> key developer of AllStarLink infrastructure.

I've tendered my resignation as of October 14, 2018.  This was provided to
the board in a signed email that day.

I wish them well, but ASL has been kneecapped by the boards ongoing
inability to make any decisions.

- -- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net
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From tom at tomh.us  Sat Oct 27 16:42:28 2018
From: tom at tomh.us (Tom Hayward)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 09:42:28 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Personnel Update
In-Reply-To: <CAG3ht9sVD9GBAaifX38XyCKzLcvNk7d95txNvraWFMUBaM52ww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG3ht9sVD9GBAaifX38XyCKzLcvNk7d95txNvraWFMUBaM52ww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFXO5Z1E1JD8_39DFqZ-0owT1s+pcfM40m5jwvNNjU3ctGKi-A@mail.gmail.com>

What's the status of the AllStarLink Inc 501(c)(3) application? This is the
board action I'm most interested in, because I have employer matching that
will expire Dec 31st.

Tom KD7LXL

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 6:47 AM Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just want to update you on the status of personnel at AllStarLink, Inc.
> Things normally fluctuate in a volunteer group and we want to keep everyone
> up to date as to what is happening.
>
>
> Todd Lesser - KM6RPT has joined the board.  Todd is a new ham with a
> strong interest in Allstar.  He was friends with and worked professionally
> with Jim Dixon for almost 30 years.  He was part of the development team on
> the Zapata Telephony project that created the technology that Allstar uses.
>
>
> Tim Sawyer - WD6AWP has rejoined the board after a short absence. Tim is a
> repeater owner and developer of Allmon.
>
>
> Bryan Fields - W9CR has chosen to leave the board. Bryan will remain a key
> developer of AllStarLink infrastructure.
>
>
> Pete Elke - WI6H is a current member of the AllStarLink board. Pete brings
> management and communications skills to the board.
>
>
> Kevin Custer - W3KKC remains on the board. Kevin is the founder of
> repeater-builder.com <http://repeaterbuilder.com/> and is active with the
> WAN repeater system.
>
>
> Dave Shaw - WB6WTM has accepted the role of treasurer. Dave recently
> served as a Director and Treasurer for NARCC (The Northern California
> Repeater Coordination Council).
>
> --
> Tim WD6AWP
> _______________________________________________
> App_rpt-users mailing list
> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>
> To unsubscribe from this list please visit
> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and
> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press
> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"
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From kuggie at kuggie.com  Sat Oct 27 17:01:28 2018
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 13:01:28 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Personnel Update
In-Reply-To: <CAFXO5Z1E1JD8_39DFqZ-0owT1s+pcfM40m5jwvNNjU3ctGKi-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG3ht9sVD9GBAaifX38XyCKzLcvNk7d95txNvraWFMUBaM52ww@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/27/2018 12:42 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
> What's the status of the AllStarLink Inc 501(c)(3) application? This 
> is the board action I'm most interested in, because I have employer 
> matching that will expire Dec 31st.

This is an action item that was high in priority with the past board.? 
Since the current board has changed, and first meeting won't be until 
tomorrow, I cannot answer you immediately.

This is something we'll discuss and I'll report back after I have an 
idea of what the current boards position is, and a proposed time line.

For AllStarLink, Inc.,
Kevin W3KKC


From kuggie at kuggie.com  Sun Oct 28 17:01:43 2018
From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:01:43 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStarLink Personnel Update - 501(c)3 update.
In-Reply-To: <e954983d-7445-4fd8-04b6-d107d8b3f575@kuggie.com>
References: <CAG3ht9sVD9GBAaifX38XyCKzLcvNk7d95txNvraWFMUBaM52ww@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/27/2018 1:01 PM, Kevin Custer wrote:
> On 10/27/2018 12:42 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
>> What's the status of the AllStarLink Inc 501(c)(3) application? This 
>> is the board action I'm most interested in, because I have employer 
>> matching that will expire Dec 31st.
>
> This is an action item that was high in priority with the past board.? 
> Since the current board has changed, and first meeting won't be until 
> tomorrow, I cannot answer you immediately.
>
> This is something we'll discuss and I'll report back after I have an 
> idea of what the current boards position is, and a proposed time line.
>
> For AllStarLink, Inc.,
> Kevin W3KKC

The AllStarLink Board met this morning and had a very productive 
meeting.? One of the key topics was the action item of obtaining 501(c)3 
status.? It appears that the Board is unified to make this happen as 
soon as it can.

For AllStarLink, Inc.,
Kevin W3KKC
Founding Board Member


From waltcarter30 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 29 05:52:36 2018
From: waltcarter30 at yahoo.com (walter)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 22:52:36 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Welcome
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I have one question for now. Will AllStar work with the latest raspberry Pi 3b+?
Thanks Walt
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From waltcarter30 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 29 06:06:27 2018
From: waltcarter30 at yahoo.com (walter)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:06:27 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Latest Pi
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Will the latest Pi 3 b+ work with AllStar?
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From Ramesh at va3uv.com  Mon Oct 29 15:57:48 2018
From: Ramesh at va3uv.com (Ramesh Dhami)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:57:48 -0400
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Latest Pi
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On 2018-10-29 2:06 AM, walter wrote:
> Will the latest Pi 3 b+ work with AllStar?
>
<-- Yes, it sure will :).

Ramesh.
VA3UV / KN4RSD

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From waltcarter30 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 30 22:19:35 2018
From: waltcarter30 at yahoo.com (walter)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:19:35 -0700
Subject: [App_rpt-users] GPIO for PTT and COS when using a generic sound
 FOB. Nano control. Will an update to V1.5 in mid 2017
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Has this been done? It would make things better.
GPIO for PTT and COS when using a generic sound FOB. Nano control. Will an update to V1.5 in mid 2017

Thanks Walt
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