From electricity440 at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 01:07:59 2018 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 19:07:59 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kerchunk Police Message-ID: Just was playing with some scripting for fun. Not very practical and there are many problems, but thought I would share, maybe someone can do something more creative. Video https://youtu.be/XvoDmcPuVVw CODE Rpt.conf [events] /etc/asterisk/scripts/kerchunk.sh = s|t|RPT_RXKEYED /etc/asterisk/scripts/unkey.sh = s|f|RPT_RXKEYED Kerchunk.sh #!/bin/bash *touch* /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed sleep 1.3 if [ ! -f /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed ]; then *echo* *"File $FILE exists."* asterisk -rx *"rpt localplay 45499 /etc/asterisk/sounds/kerchunk"* fi exit 0 unkey.sh #!/bin/bash *rm* /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shawpbx at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 04:27:07 2018 From: shawpbx at gmail.com (David Shaw) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:27:07 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kerchunk Police In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Thats Cool -- Thanks, David "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." Thomas Jefferson On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 6:08 PM Skyler F wrote: > Just was playing with some scripting for fun. Not very practical and there > are many problems, but thought I would share, maybe someone can do > something more creative. > > Video > https://youtu.be/XvoDmcPuVVw > > > CODE > Rpt.conf > > [events] > > /etc/asterisk/scripts/kerchunk.sh = s|t|RPT_RXKEYED > > /etc/asterisk/scripts/unkey.sh = s|f|RPT_RXKEYED > > > Kerchunk.sh > > #!/bin/bash > > *touch* /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed > > sleep 1.3 > > > if [ ! -f /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed ]; then > > *echo* *"File $FILE exists."* > > asterisk -rx *"rpt localplay 45499 /etc/asterisk/sounds/kerchunk"* > > fi > > > exit 0 > > > unkey.sh > > #!/bin/bash > > *rm* /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From electricity440 at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 04:33:45 2018 From: electricity440 at gmail.com (Skyler F) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 22:33:45 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kerchunk Police In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think what I am just going to do is an inactivity timer. If the repeater has not had activity for 10 minutes and someone randomly kerchunks, the message goes off. Therefore it does not annoy you during a normal conversation if someone accidentally does not press the PTT button all the way when they are in a regular conversation. On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:27 PM David Shaw wrote: > Thanks, Thats Cool > > > -- > Thanks, David > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater > confidence than an armed one." > Thomas Jefferson > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 6:08 PM Skyler F wrote: > >> Just was playing with some scripting for fun. Not very practical and >> there are many problems, but thought I would share, maybe someone can do >> something more creative. >> >> Video >> https://youtu.be/XvoDmcPuVVw >> >> >> CODE >> Rpt.conf >> >> [events] >> >> /etc/asterisk/scripts/kerchunk.sh = s|t|RPT_RXKEYED >> >> /etc/asterisk/scripts/unkey.sh = s|f|RPT_RXKEYED >> >> >> Kerchunk.sh >> >> #!/bin/bash >> >> *touch* /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed >> >> sleep 1.3 >> >> >> if [ ! -f /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed ]; then >> >> *echo* *"File $FILE exists."* >> >> asterisk -rx *"rpt localplay 45499 /etc/asterisk/sounds/kerchunk"* >> >> fi >> >> >> exit 0 >> >> >> unkey.sh >> >> #!/bin/bash >> >> *rm* /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KD?WHB electricity440 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k2krs at arrl.net Sat Sep 1 17:18:04 2018 From: k2krs at arrl.net (K2KRS Ken) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 12:18:04 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Kerchunk Police In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07a21fdca37c1643a93e5c14f5338163@arrl.net> There is a local repeater n5xwd here in Houston I was inactive for many years then one day decided to pick up a Yaesu FT-65 The first thing I found while scanning was n5xwd because it was the most active here since it is/was linked to the win system in CA. I know I've heard a message on there 'kerchunking detected ....' never could understand the rest of the message But anyway since it's linked to win system I'm guessing maybe they are running allstar and maybe they have such a script. Just a shot in the dark but if you can hunt down the owner of n5xwd you may be able to find out more information. On 2018-08-31 11:33 PM, Skyler F wrote: > I think what I am just going to do is an inactivity timer. If the > repeater > has not had activity for 10 minutes and someone randomly kerchunks, the > message goes off. Therefore it does not annoy you during a normal > conversation if someone accidentally does not press the PTT button all > the > way when they are in a regular conversation. > >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 6:08 PM Skyler F >> wrote: >> >>> Just was playing with some scripting for fun. Not very practical and >>> there are many problems, but thought I would share, maybe someone can >>> do >>> something more creative. >>> >>> Video >>> https://youtu.be/XvoDmcPuVVw >>> >>> >>> CODE >>> Rpt.conf >>> >>> [events] >>> >>> /etc/asterisk/scripts/kerchunk.sh = s|t|RPT_RXKEYED >>> >>> /etc/asterisk/scripts/unkey.sh = s|f|RPT_RXKEYED >>> >>> >>> Kerchunk.sh >>> >>> #!/bin/bash >>> >>> *touch* /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed >>> >>> sleep 1.3 >>> >>> >>> if [ ! -f /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed ]; then >>> >>> *echo* *"File $FILE exists."* >>> >>> asterisk -rx *"rpt localplay 45499 /etc/asterisk/sounds/kerchunk"* >>> >>> fi >>> >>> >>> exit 0 >>> >>> >>> unkey.sh >>> >>> #!/bin/bash >>> >>> *rm* /etc/asterisk/scripts/keyed >>> _______________________________________________ From rachel at olivero.us Sun Sep 2 01:12:47 2018 From: rachel at olivero.us (Rachel Olivero) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 20:12:47 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Base Questions Message-ID: <1535850767.2820457.1493824952.4D24C2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Good evening all: I presently have my TM-D700 connected to a Raspberry Pi with a URI and configured as a remote base. I'm using iaxRpt to control/use it. I'm noticing that if there is received audio and I transmit, everything works fine. When I unkey, I get the repeater audio immediately back over iaxRpt. However, if I transmit to a repeater that has had no carrier previously, I don't hear any returned audio. I've stood next to the radio and verified that I am keying the repeater. Tonight, a station responded and I got no audio until the carrier dropped and a new signal was detected. I'm not sure if this is a D700 issue, a URI issue, or an app_rpt issue. I'm open to any suggestions. One other question, I defined an archivedir in rpt.conf, but I don't see audio files in the directory. I see the promised text file, but no audio. Did I miss a step? Thanks, Rachel AD9O -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 2 01:42:07 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 21:42:07 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Base Questions In-Reply-To: <1535850767.2820457.1493824952.4D24C2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1535850767.2820457.1493824952.4D24C2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: While I can't say for sure, it sounds like you have the logic inverted on your cos of the remote base. If I am reading you right. The archive directory must exist. look for type errors both in your definition in rpt.conf and the actual directory would be the first thing in your checks. archivedir=/var/www/html/somewhere/archive It will only create a director to put the data in if it finds the defined path to do it. Also check ownership and permissions of the directory. Hope that gets you somewhere. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/1/2018 9:12 PM, Rachel Olivero wrote: > Good evening all: > > I presently have my TM-D700 connected to a Raspberry Pi with a URI and > configured as a remote base. I'm using iaxRpt to control/use it. > I'm noticing that if there is received audio and I transmit, everything > works fine. When I unkey, I get the repeater audio immediately back over > iaxRpt. However, if I transmit to a repeater that has had no carrier > previously, I don't hear any returned audio. I've stood next to the > radio and verified that I am keying the repeater. Tonight, a station > responded and I got no audio until the carrier dropped and a new signal > was detected. I'm not sure if this is a D700 issue, a URI issue, or an > app_rpt issue. I'm open to any suggestions. > One other question, I defined an archivedir in rpt.conf, but I don't see > audio files in the directory. I see the promised text file, but no > audio. Did I miss a step? > Thanks, > Rachel AD9O > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From rachel at olivero.us Sun Sep 2 01:46:38 2018 From: rachel at olivero.us (Rachel Olivero) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 20:46:38 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Base Questions In-Reply-To: References: <1535850767.2820457.1493824952.4D24C2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1535852798.2828352.1493840248.2AC2F1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mike, Thanks. I can check the COS logic. If it were inverted though, would I be receiving anything? I definitely get signal as long as the carrier is active before I transmit. I'll check permissions too. On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, at 20:42, Mike wrote: > While I can't say for sure, > it sounds like you have the logic inverted on your cos of the remote > base. If I am reading you right. > > The archive directory must exist. look for type errors both in your > definition in rpt.conf and the actual directory would be the first thing > in your checks. > archivedir=/var/www/html/somewhere/archive > It will only create a director to put the data in if it finds > the defined path to do it. > Also check ownership and permissions of the directory. > > Hope that gets you somewhere. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/1/2018 9:12 PM, Rachel Olivero wrote: > > Good evening all: > > > > I presently have my TM-D700 connected to a Raspberry Pi with a URI and > > configured as a remote base. I'm using iaxRpt to control/use it. > > I'm noticing that if there is received audio and I transmit, everything > > works fine. When I unkey, I get the repeater audio immediately back over > > iaxRpt. However, if I transmit to a repeater that has had no carrier > > previously, I don't hear any returned audio. I've stood next to the > > radio and verified that I am keying the repeater. Tonight, a station > > responded and I got no audio until the carrier dropped and a new signal > > was detected. I'm not sure if this is a D700 issue, a URI issue, or an > > app_rpt issue. I'm open to any suggestions. > > One other question, I defined an archivedir in rpt.conf, but I don't see > > audio files in the directory. I see the promised text file, but no > > audio. Did I miss a step? > > Thanks, > > Rachel AD9O > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and > press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message > to the list detailing the problem. From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 2 02:14:52 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:14:52 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Base Questions In-Reply-To: <1535852798.2828352.1493840248.2AC2F1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1535850767.2820457.1493824952.4D24C2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1535852798.2828352.1493840248.2AC2F1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <6d65b8b3-16dd-3520-a7d5-3bf3663d0d13@midnighteng.com> I'm a bit sorry, since I can't tell which audio you are speaking of in your statement. Makes it confusing. Could mean different things. There are circumstances that iaxrpt does not get returned audio as it is a direct iax connection. But I can't determine from what you have said exactly the circumstance, so ??? You might connect to 29285 for a quick chat. It's listening to DMR so you can talk over and call me. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/1/2018 9:46 PM, Rachel Olivero wrote: > Mike, > > Thanks. I can check the COS logic. If it were inverted though, would I be receiving anything? I definitely get signal as long as the carrier is active before I transmit. > > I'll check permissions too. > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, at 20:42, Mike wrote: >> While I can't say for sure, >> it sounds like you have the logic inverted on your cos of the remote >> base. If I am reading you right. >> >> The archive directory must exist. look for type errors both in your >> definition in rpt.conf and the actual directory would be the first thing >> in your checks. >> archivedir=/var/www/html/somewhere/archive >> It will only create a director to put the data in if it finds >> the defined path to do it. >> Also check ownership and permissions of the directory. >> >> Hope that gets you somewhere. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 9/1/2018 9:12 PM, Rachel Olivero wrote: >>> Good evening all: >>> >>> I presently have my TM-D700 connected to a Raspberry Pi with a URI and >>> configured as a remote base. I'm using iaxRpt to control/use it. >>> I'm noticing that if there is received audio and I transmit, everything >>> works fine. When I unkey, I get the repeater audio immediately back over >>> iaxRpt. However, if I transmit to a repeater that has had no carrier >>> previously, I don't hear any returned audio. I've stood next to the >>> radio and verified that I am keying the repeater. Tonight, a station >>> responded and I got no audio until the carrier dropped and a new signal >>> was detected. I'm not sure if this is a D700 issue, a URI issue, or an >>> app_rpt issue. I'm open to any suggestions. >>> One other question, I defined an archivedir in rpt.conf, but I don't see >>> audio files in the directory. I see the promised text file, but no >>> audio. Did I miss a step? >>> Thanks, >>> Rachel AD9O >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message >> to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 2 03:51:14 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:51:14 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr Message-ID: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. Canvas not supported. This is on a Mac using Safari. Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? Thanks, ?Buddy, KB5ELV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rachel at olivero.us Sun Sep 2 04:17:49 2018 From: rachel at olivero.us (Rachel Olivero) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 23:17:49 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Base Questions In-Reply-To: <6d65b8b3-16dd-3520-a7d5-3bf3663d0d13@midnighteng.com> References: <1535850767.2820457.1493824952.4D24C2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1535852798.2828352.1493840248.2AC2F1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <6d65b8b3-16dd-3520-a7d5-3bf3663d0d13@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <1535861869.2859029.1493895520.58C27D74@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mike, I just saw this. SO I'll try and explain it better. I can jump on tomorrow if it'll be easier to talk out. If I set the TM-D700 and an HT to a simplex frequency, I have no problem. I can transmit from iaxRpt and it keys the radio, sends my voice, and I hear it on the HT. I can reply on the HT and I hear the transmission in the headset connected to iaxRpt. The trouble comes in when I set the TM-D700 to a repeater frequency. Normally, transmitting with an HT, one would hear the courtesy tone and hang time tail of the repeater. Neither of which I hear if I key a repeater when no COS signal is present. However, if someone else initiates a transmission and I key up, respond, and unkey, I instantly hear the repeater's audio coming from the D700. The best I can figure is that app_rpt is not detecting, or perhaps able to detect, COS immediately after PTT release and it won't detect the COS signal unless it is lost and regained. Let me know if that makes any more sense. Thanks, Rachel On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, at 21:14, Mike wrote: > I'm a bit sorry, since I can't tell which audio you are speaking of in > your statement. Makes it confusing. Could mean different things. > > There are circumstances that iaxrpt does not get returned audio as it is > a direct iax connection. But I can't determine from what you have said > exactly the circumstance, so ??? > > You might connect to 29285 for a quick chat. > It's listening to DMR so you can talk over and call me. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 9/1/2018 9:46 PM, Rachel Olivero wrote: > > Mike, > > > > Thanks. I can check the COS logic. If it were inverted though, would I be receiving anything? I definitely get signal as long as the carrier is active before I transmit. > > > > I'll check permissions too. > > > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, at 20:42, Mike wrote: > >> While I can't say for sure, > >> it sounds like you have the logic inverted on your cos of the remote > >> base. If I am reading you right. > >> > >> The archive directory must exist. look for type errors both in your > >> definition in rpt.conf and the actual directory would be the first thing > >> in your checks. > >> archivedir=/var/www/html/somewhere/archive > >> It will only create a director to put the data in if it finds > >> the defined path to do it. > >> Also check ownership and permissions of the directory. > >> > >> Hope that gets you somewhere. > >> > >> ...mike/kb8jnm > >> > >> On 9/1/2018 9:12 PM, Rachel Olivero wrote: > >>> Good evening all: > >>> > >>> I presently have my TM-D700 connected to a Raspberry Pi with a URI and > >>> configured as a remote base. I'm using iaxRpt to control/use it. > >>> I'm noticing that if there is received audio and I transmit, everything > >>> works fine. When I unkey, I get the repeater audio immediately back over > >>> iaxRpt. However, if I transmit to a repeater that has had no carrier > >>> previously, I don't hear any returned audio. I've stood next to the > >>> radio and verified that I am keying the repeater. Tonight, a station > >>> responded and I got no audio until the carrier dropped and a new signal > >>> was detected. I'm not sure if this is a D700 issue, a URI issue, or an > >>> app_rpt issue. I'm open to any suggestions. > >>> One other question, I defined an archivedir in rpt.conf, but I don't see > >>> audio files in the directory. I see the promised text file, but no > >>> audio. Did I miss a step? > >>> Thanks, > >>> Rachel AD9O > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> App_rpt-users mailing list > >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> App_rpt-users mailing list > >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit > >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and > >> press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > >> confirmation. 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From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 2 04:19:45 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 00:19:45 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> Message-ID: <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? Is javascript enabled ? It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? Just a few leads... My old how2 http://29993.link/asl-vps.html ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. > > But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. > > So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. > > When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. > > > Canvas not supported. > > > This is on a Mac using Safari. > > Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. > > If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. > https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 > > It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) > > So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. > > Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? > > Thanks, > > ?Buddy, KB5ELV > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 2 04:23:40 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 23:23:40 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> Hey Mike, I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. > On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: > > Have you actually booted to the ISO ? > > Is javascript enabled ? > > It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? > > Just a few leads... > > > My old how2 > http://29993.link/asl-vps.html > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >> Canvas not supported. >> >> This is on a Mac using Safari. >> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >> Thanks, >> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 2 04:36:10 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 00:36:10 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Remote Base Questions In-Reply-To: <1535861869.2859029.1493895520.58C27D74@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1535850767.2820457.1493824952.4D24C2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1535852798.2828352.1493840248.2AC2F1A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <6d65b8b3-16dd-3520-a7d5-3bf3663d0d13@midnighteng.com> <1535861869.2859029.1493895520.58C27D74@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <146ab8cc-cbcb-6aaf-e000-ecaa395c2f04@midnighteng.com> Is the remote PL'd Some set-ups just pass PL, some generate/regenerate only when their cos is active. So, if true, you might not hear the tail. Can you try some other repeater ? or TX simplex on that freq with a HT for a test. yes, I am still guessing... LOL... But i do understand better. Except, Are you listening to this only through iaxrpt ? Is iaxrpt connected directly to the remote base node or a normal full duplex node that is then connected to the remote base node ? Send me a copy of your simpleusb/radiousb for the remote ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/2/2018 12:17 AM, Rachel Olivero wrote: > Mike, > > I just saw this. SO I'll try and explain it better. I can jump on tomorrow if it'll be easier to talk out. > > If I set the TM-D700 and an HT to a simplex frequency, I have no problem. I can transmit from iaxRpt and it keys the radio, sends my voice, and I hear it on the HT. I can reply on the HT and I hear the transmission in the headset connected to iaxRpt. > > The trouble comes in when I set the TM-D700 to a repeater frequency. Normally, transmitting with an HT, one would hear the courtesy tone and hang time tail of the repeater. Neither of which I hear if I key a repeater when no COS signal is present. However, if someone else initiates a transmission and I key up, respond, and unkey, I instantly hear the repeater's audio coming from the D700. The best I can figure is that app_rpt is not detecting, or perhaps able to detect, COS immediately after PTT release and it won't detect the COS signal unless it is lost and regained. > > Let me know if that makes any more sense. > > Thanks, > Rachel > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, at 21:14, Mike wrote: >> I'm a bit sorry, since I can't tell which audio you are speaking of in >> your statement. Makes it confusing. Could mean different things. >> >> There are circumstances that iaxrpt does not get returned audio as it is >> a direct iax connection. But I can't determine from what you have said >> exactly the circumstance, so ??? >> >> You might connect to 29285 for a quick chat. >> It's listening to DMR so you can talk over and call me. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> >> On 9/1/2018 9:46 PM, Rachel Olivero wrote: >>> Mike, >>> >>> Thanks. I can check the COS logic. If it were inverted though, would I be receiving anything? I definitely get signal as long as the carrier is active before I transmit. >>> >>> I'll check permissions too. >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, at 20:42, Mike wrote: >>>> While I can't say for sure, >>>> it sounds like you have the logic inverted on your cos of the remote >>>> base. If I am reading you right. >>>> >>>> The archive directory must exist. look for type errors both in your >>>> definition in rpt.conf and the actual directory would be the first thing >>>> in your checks. >>>> archivedir=/var/www/html/somewhere/archive >>>> It will only create a director to put the data in if it finds >>>> the defined path to do it. >>>> Also check ownership and permissions of the directory. >>>> >>>> Hope that gets you somewhere. >>>> >>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>> >>>> On 9/1/2018 9:12 PM, Rachel Olivero wrote: >>>>> Good evening all: >>>>> >>>>> I presently have my TM-D700 connected to a Raspberry Pi with a URI and >>>>> configured as a remote base. I'm using iaxRpt to control/use it. >>>>> I'm noticing that if there is received audio and I transmit, everything >>>>> works fine. When I unkey, I get the repeater audio immediately back over >>>>> iaxRpt. However, if I transmit to a repeater that has had no carrier >>>>> previously, I don't hear any returned audio. I've stood next to the >>>>> radio and verified that I am keying the repeater. Tonight, a station >>>>> responded and I got no audio until the carrier dropped and a new signal >>>>> was detected. I'm not sure if this is a D700 issue, a URI issue, or an >>>>> app_rpt issue. I'm open to any suggestions. >>>>> One other question, I defined an archivedir in rpt.conf, but I don't see >>>>> audio files in the directory. I see the promised text file, but no >>>>> audio. Did I miss a step? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Rachel AD9O >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 2 04:52:08 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 00:52:08 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> Message-ID: <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> Without going through the procedure other than memory, you do need to use the iso menu and tell it to boot the iso. (once iso has loaded) But i would think you should be able to hit alt-ctl-del and force that boot 'if it is loaded in the tray'. If that yields nothing, it would have to be more of security/scripting in the browser I would think. I don't run mac's normally but can you try firefox on that mac. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/2/2018 12:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey Mike, > > I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. > >> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: >> >> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? >> >> Is javascript enabled ? >> >> It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? >> >> Just a few leads... >> >> >> My old how2 >> http://29993.link/asl-vps.html >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >>> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >>> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >>> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >>> Canvas not supported. >>> >>> This is on a Mac using Safari. >>> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >>> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >>> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >>> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >>> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >>> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >>> Thanks, >>> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 2 04:58:34 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 23:58:34 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> Hey Mike, I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual console, but of course can?t interact with it. I may check out another solution later, but I?m planning to attack this another direction. > On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Mike wrote: > > Without going through the procedure other than memory, > you do need to use the iso menu and tell it to boot the iso. > (once iso has loaded) > > But i would think you should be able to hit alt-ctl-del and force that boot 'if it is loaded in the tray'. > > If that yields nothing, it would have to be more of security/scripting in the browser I would think. > I don't run mac's normally but can you try firefox on that mac. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > On 9/2/2018 12:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Hey Mike, >> I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. >>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: >>> >>> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? >>> >>> Is javascript enabled ? >>> >>> It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? >>> >>> Just a few leads... >>> >>> >>> My old how2 >>> http://29993.link/asl-vps.html >>> >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >>>> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >>>> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >>>> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >>>> Canvas not supported. >>>> >>>> This is on a Mac using Safari. >>>> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >>>> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >>>> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >>>> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >>>> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >>>> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >>>> Thanks, >>>> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 2 05:08:30 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 01:08:30 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> Message-ID: <8a575fc6-b4f5-35f8-6d40-e779a21300be@midnighteng.com> Perhaps someone else will chime-in with a similar experience/fix. It's Labor Day WE so I have figured not many reading right now. But I would like to know what you find, when you do, that is. tnx, ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/2/2018 12:58 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hey Mike, > > I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual console, but of course can?t interact with it. > > I may check out another solution later, but I?m planning to attack this another direction. > >> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Mike wrote: >> >> Without going through the procedure other than memory, >> you do need to use the iso menu and tell it to boot the iso. >> (once iso has loaded) >> >> But i would think you should be able to hit alt-ctl-del and force that boot 'if it is loaded in the tray'. >> >> If that yields nothing, it would have to be more of security/scripting in the browser I would think. >> I don't run mac's normally but can you try firefox on that mac. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> >> On 9/2/2018 12:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Hey Mike, >>> I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. >>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: >>>> >>>> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? >>>> >>>> Is javascript enabled ? >>>> >>>> It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? >>>> >>>> Just a few leads... >>>> >>>> >>>> My old how2 >>>> http://29993.link/asl-vps.html >>>> >>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>> >>>> On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >>>>> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >>>>> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >>>>> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >>>>> Canvas not supported. >>>>> >>>>> This is on a Mac using Safari. >>>>> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >>>>> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >>>>> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >>>>> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >>>>> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >>>>> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From Bryan at bryanfields.net Sun Sep 2 05:23:55 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 01:23:55 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> Message-ID: <7910a7ac-e6e1-f8c5-dc81-f62377574be4@bryanfields.net> On 9/2/18 12:58 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an > accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual > console, but of course can?t interact with it. Just catching up reading this, but why can't you interact with it? If you're running from the browser it's just standard VNC, you may be able to use a VNC client rather than one based in the browser. That said, I do have a mac and am able to access VM's just fine in Firefox, Chrome and Safari. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 2 06:15:50 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 01:15:50 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <8a575fc6-b4f5-35f8-6d40-e779a21300be@midnighteng.com> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> <8a575fc6-b4f5-35f8-6d40-e779a21300be@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: Howdy Mike, All good. I have a basic hub running. The usual tweaking shall commence, like getting rid of the ID?s (no radio on the node, of course), courtesy tones, hang times, and duplex and such. I ended up just installing a 64-bit Stretch as preconfigured from Vultr, which is likely pretty barebones. Perfect for my need. I was able to ssh into that, set up a repeater account from a root login, and install the ASL packages per the FAQ, thoughtfully sent to me by Rachel, AD9O (saving me a hunt for the relevant incantations). Even ran the menu, which I will likely never do again?editing files by hand is more my thing, but it did make the initial setup all right. So now, I have my spiffy 4-digit node number on the virtual server and will connect the portable node to it whenever that?s on. I may well keep it once I get more permanent ASL gear set up again, which will happen who knows when. A bit of a drawn-out move, plus a new job in my old hometown (where I haven?t lived in 20 years) leaves lots of things up in the air, naturally. Vy 73, de KB5ELV > On Sep 2, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Mike wrote: > > Perhaps someone else will chime-in with a similar experience/fix. > It's Labor Day WE so I have figured not many reading right now. > But I would like to know what you find, when you do, that is. > > > tnx, > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/2/2018 12:58 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Hey Mike, >> I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual console, but of course can?t interact with it. >> I may check out another solution later, but I?m planning to attack this another direction. >>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Mike wrote: >>> >>> Without going through the procedure other than memory, >>> you do need to use the iso menu and tell it to boot the iso. >>> (once iso has loaded) >>> >>> But i would think you should be able to hit alt-ctl-del and force that boot 'if it is loaded in the tray'. >>> >>> If that yields nothing, it would have to be more of security/scripting in the browser I would think. >>> I don't run mac's normally but can you try firefox on that mac. >>> >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> >>> On 9/2/2018 12:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>> Hey Mike, >>>> I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. >>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? >>>>> >>>>> Is javascript enabled ? >>>>> >>>>> It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? >>>>> >>>>> Just a few leads... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My old how2 >>>>> http://29993.link/asl-vps.html >>>>> >>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>> >>>>> On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >>>>>> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >>>>>> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >>>>>> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >>>>>> Canvas not supported. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is on a Mac using Safari. >>>>>> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >>>>>> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >>>>>> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >>>>>> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >>>>>> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >>>>>> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 2 06:17:37 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 01:17:37 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <7910a7ac-e6e1-f8c5-dc81-f62377574be4@bryanfields.net> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> <7910a7ac-e6e1-f8c5-dc81-f62377574be4@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: <2BC01E44-D00B-42FF-99F8-BDCD5B04641C@brannan.name> Hi Brian, It?s a blind thing, and the share is graphical. Apparently. But I got around it anyway (see my previous post). > On Sep 2, 2018, at 12:23 AM, Bryan Fields wrote: > > On 9/2/18 12:58 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an >> accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual >> console, but of course can?t interact with it. > > Just catching up reading this, but why can't you interact with it? > > If you're running from the browser it's just standard VNC, you may be able to > use a VNC client rather than one based in the browser. That said, I do have a > mac and am able to access VM's just fine in Firefox, Chrome and Safari. > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From thorn at myactv.net Sun Sep 2 12:28:27 2018 From: thorn at myactv.net (Greg Thornwall) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 08:28:27 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> Message-ID: <673bbfb8-cbe0-7698-fa40-c9cc595e0c8a@myactv.net> I was able to get my hub 27265 running on a VPS by compiling the code with N4IRS's scripts (with help from Steve too!). https://ipxcore.com/kvm-vps It's $3.99/mon. 73 Greg On 09/01/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears.? > > But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have > a deal I couldn?t very well pass up.? > > So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded > to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag.? > > When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, > along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?.? > > > Canvas not supported. > ? > > This is on a Mac using Safari.? > > Using Google Chrome instead, I ?get a graphic instead. Presumably that > might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m > blind and can?t work with whatever it is.? > > If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the > $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server.? > https://www.vultr.com/promo25b/?ref=7524970 > > It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete > everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) > > So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind > of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from > the console available from the website.? > > Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere > I can take over?? > > Thanks, > > ?Buddy, KB5ELV > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thorn at myactv.net Sun Sep 2 12:51:25 2018 From: thorn at myactv.net (Greg Thornwall) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 08:51:25 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Android Allstar Control App Message-ID: <784ad4e9-1da7-0fd4-83cc-f2d9028e6f7e@myactv.net> If anyone is interested, I wrote an app that lets you control your node via an Android device. It's really simple, connect, disconnect, status and it shows who is connected. I'll be adding more features when I get time. It does an ssh connection into the node and issues commands via the CLI. I would eventually like to add audio using IAX or SIP. I found some SIP demos with code but have not had the time to experiment with it. I have been using it on a Samsung, Android 8.0 and 4.4. I don't have it on the Play Store but you can download it and install it manually. More info and download link: http://kd3su.com/allStar/app/ For some reason this email did not get posted to the list server before. 73 Greg KD3SU From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 2 13:11:19 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:11:19 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> <8a575fc6-b4f5-35f8-6d40-e779a21300be@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: Glad to hear your up and running. Having deployed ASL on a vultr server more than 2 dozen times on vultr with the custom ASL ISO, I really think the vps just had not booted to the iso. But I could be wrong. Once you get this config'd the way you want it, you can take a 'snapshot' (which is currently free for now) and that makes a image of the HDD you can redeploy quickly on the same size or larger server. But, if you use this, just keep in mind that the first thing you have to pay attention to is the ip address if static and you deploy on a new server. But if you config it as DHCP, no issue and it will only get the address assigned to the server. Just one last pointer if it helps. I often run test deployments often on different size servers and use those features often. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/2/2018 2:15 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Howdy Mike, > > All good. I have a basic hub running. The usual tweaking shall commence, like getting rid of the ID?s (no radio on the node, of course), courtesy tones, hang times, and duplex and such. > > I ended up just installing a 64-bit Stretch as preconfigured from Vultr, which is likely pretty barebones. Perfect for my need. I was able to ssh into that, set up a repeater account from a root login, and install the ASL packages per the FAQ, thoughtfully sent to me by Rachel, AD9O (saving me a hunt for the relevant incantations). Even ran the menu, which I will likely never do again?editing files by hand is more my thing, but it did make the initial setup all right. > > So now, I have my spiffy 4-digit node number on the virtual server and will connect the portable node to it whenever that?s on. I may well keep it once I get more permanent ASL gear set up again, which will happen who knows when. A bit of a drawn-out move, plus a new job in my old hometown (where I haven?t lived in 20 years) leaves lots of things up in the air, naturally. > > Vy 73, de KB5ELV > > >> On Sep 2, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Mike wrote: >> >> Perhaps someone else will chime-in with a similar experience/fix. >> It's Labor Day WE so I have figured not many reading right now. >> But I would like to know what you find, when you do, that is. >> >> >> tnx, >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 9/2/2018 12:58 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Hey Mike, >>> I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual console, but of course can?t interact with it. >>> I may check out another solution later, but I?m planning to attack this another direction. >>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Mike wrote: >>>> >>>> Without going through the procedure other than memory, >>>> you do need to use the iso menu and tell it to boot the iso. >>>> (once iso has loaded) >>>> >>>> But i would think you should be able to hit alt-ctl-del and force that boot 'if it is loaded in the tray'. >>>> >>>> If that yields nothing, it would have to be more of security/scripting in the browser I would think. >>>> I don't run mac's normally but can you try firefox on that mac. >>>> >>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/2/2018 12:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>> Hey Mike, >>>>> I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is javascript enabled ? >>>>>> >>>>>> It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a few leads... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My old how2 >>>>>> http://29993.link/asl-vps.html >>>>>> >>>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>>> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >>>>>>> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >>>>>>> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >>>>>>> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >>>>>>> Canvas not supported. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is on a Mac using Safari. >>>>>>> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >>>>>>> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >>>>>>> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >>>>>>> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >>>>>>> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >>>>>>> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From asonnesso at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 13:50:07 2018 From: asonnesso at gmail.com (Angelo T Sonnesso) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:50:07 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Android Allstar Control App In-Reply-To: <784ad4e9-1da7-0fd4-83cc-f2d9028e6f7e@myactv.net> References: <784ad4e9-1da7-0fd4-83cc-f2d9028e6f7e@myactv.net> Message-ID: <00da01d442c3$dca761c0$95f62540$@gmail.com> I got this from the list and the app works very well. It was very easy to install, setup and runs well on my S7. 73 N2DYN Angelo -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Greg Thornwall Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 8:51 AM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Android Allstar Control App If anyone is interested, I wrote an app that lets you control your node via an Android device. It's really simple, connect, disconnect, status and it shows who is connected. I'll be adding more features when I get time. It does an ssh connection into the node and issues commands via the CLI. I would eventually like to add audio using IAX or SIP. I found some SIP demos with code but have not had the time to experiment with it. I have been using it on a Samsung, Android 8.0 and 4.4. I don't have it on the Play Store but you can download it and install it manually. More info and download link: http://kd3su.com/allStar/app/ For some reason this email did not get posted to the list server before. 73 Greg KD3SU _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 2 14:34:19 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:34:19 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> <8a575fc6-b4f5-35f8-6d40-e779a21300be@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <0A8ED38E-E46B-4C05-95AA-CC1582D111C5@brannan.name> Hi Mike, I had someone look at a screenshot of the console page, and it was definitely a boot prompt with the Debian boot menu. This was definitely an accessibility issue, not a ?it?s broke?/?nut behind the keyboard? issue. Neatly gotten around now. > On Sep 2, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Mike wrote: > > Glad to hear your up and running. > Having deployed ASL on a vultr server more than 2 dozen times on vultr with the custom ASL ISO, I really think the vps just had not booted to the iso. But I could be wrong. > > Once you get this config'd the way you want it, you can take a 'snapshot' (which is currently free for now) and that makes a image of the HDD you can redeploy quickly on the same size or larger server. > > But, if you use this, just keep in mind that the first thing you have to pay attention to is the ip address if static and you deploy on a new server. But if you config it as DHCP, no issue and it will only get the address assigned to the server. > Just one last pointer if it helps. > > I often run test deployments often on different size servers and use those features often. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/2/2018 2:15 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Howdy Mike, >> All good. I have a basic hub running. The usual tweaking shall commence, like getting rid of the ID?s (no radio on the node, of course), courtesy tones, hang times, and duplex and such. >> I ended up just installing a 64-bit Stretch as preconfigured from Vultr, which is likely pretty barebones. Perfect for my need. I was able to ssh into that, set up a repeater account from a root login, and install the ASL packages per the FAQ, thoughtfully sent to me by Rachel, AD9O (saving me a hunt for the relevant incantations). Even ran the menu, which I will likely never do again?editing files by hand is more my thing, but it did make the initial setup all right. >> So now, I have my spiffy 4-digit node number on the virtual server and will connect the portable node to it whenever that?s on. I may well keep it once I get more permanent ASL gear set up again, which will happen who knows when. A bit of a drawn-out move, plus a new job in my old hometown (where I haven?t lived in 20 years) leaves lots of things up in the air, naturally. >> Vy 73, de KB5ELV >>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Mike wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps someone else will chime-in with a similar experience/fix. >>> It's Labor Day WE so I have figured not many reading right now. >>> But I would like to know what you find, when you do, that is. >>> >>> >>> tnx, >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> On 9/2/2018 12:58 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>> Hey Mike, >>>> I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual console, but of course can?t interact with it. >>>> I may check out another solution later, but I?m planning to attack this another direction. >>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Without going through the procedure other than memory, >>>>> you do need to use the iso menu and tell it to boot the iso. >>>>> (once iso has loaded) >>>>> >>>>> But i would think you should be able to hit alt-ctl-del and force that boot 'if it is loaded in the tray'. >>>>> >>>>> If that yields nothing, it would have to be more of security/scripting in the browser I would think. >>>>> I don't run mac's normally but can you try firefox on that mac. >>>>> >>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/2/2018 12:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>> Hey Mike, >>>>>> I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is javascript enabled ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a few leads... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My old how2 >>>>>>> http://29993.link/asl-vps.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>>>> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >>>>>>>> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >>>>>>>> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >>>>>>>> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >>>>>>>> Canvas not supported. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is on a Mac using Safari. >>>>>>>> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >>>>>>>> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >>>>>>>> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >>>>>>>> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >>>>>>>> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >>>>>>>> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From xe2_bss at yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 15:54:30 2018 From: xe2_bss at yahoo.com (Alejandro Pereida) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 15:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Power Point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <612543128.2497362.1535903670585@mail.yahoo.com> John excellent slide show, can I translate your slide show into spanish and use it on our radio club's ham classes? Thanks in advance Alejandro Pereida XE2BSS / N2IX On Thursday, August 30, 2018, 10:47:53 AM PDT, David Shaw wrote: Thanks John, You saved me a lot of time. It looks great. --Thanks, David On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:15 AM John Wagner wrote: Hi David - Here's a slide deck I did for our club that you're welcome to use. This is a couple years old so it's a little dated, and probably has a lot more than you need, but maybe you can use parts of it.?https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lvr3acd16nWjUXIuiOpyRaTF7XzMrF4gfhRCkfXcnRc/edit?usp=sharing I'm pretty sure that link should work for anyone that can use it. ?- John, N8CD [App_rpt-users] Power Point ? Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:31:12 -0700 From: David Shaw To: APP RPT Subject: [App_rpt-users] Power Point Message-ID: ? ? ? ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Everyone, I wanted to ask the group if anyone has a power point I can have on AllStarLink. The local club in my area is wanting to link the two club repeaters and join ASL.. Any help would be great. -- Thanks, David KE6UPI _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 2 15:54:39 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 11:54:39 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <0A8ED38E-E46B-4C05-95AA-CC1582D111C5@brannan.name> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> <8a575fc6-b4f5-35f8-6d40-e779a21300be@midnighteng.com> <0A8ED38E-E46B-4C05-95AA-CC1582D111C5@brannan.name> Message-ID: <46da29a4-439d-482c-d958-f7559a33d48c@midnighteng.com> LOL... Well I was not sure, but I was about to look at the sched maintenance on vultr as they were having issues with NJ servers during maintenance. and I know others were on the shed during the holiday weekend. Upgrading and that sorta stuff. Strange things happen...LOL... But the good thing is you worked around whatever it was. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/2/2018 10:34 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I had someone look at a screenshot of the console page, and it was definitely a boot prompt with the Debian boot menu. This was definitely an accessibility issue, not a ?it?s broke?/?nut behind the keyboard? issue. Neatly gotten around now. > >> On Sep 2, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Mike wrote: >> >> Glad to hear your up and running. >> Having deployed ASL on a vultr server more than 2 dozen times on vultr with the custom ASL ISO, I really think the vps just had not booted to the iso. But I could be wrong. >> >> Once you get this config'd the way you want it, you can take a 'snapshot' (which is currently free for now) and that makes a image of the HDD you can redeploy quickly on the same size or larger server. >> >> But, if you use this, just keep in mind that the first thing you have to pay attention to is the ip address if static and you deploy on a new server. But if you config it as DHCP, no issue and it will only get the address assigned to the server. >> Just one last pointer if it helps. >> >> I often run test deployments often on different size servers and use those features often. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 9/2/2018 2:15 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Howdy Mike, >>> All good. I have a basic hub running. The usual tweaking shall commence, like getting rid of the ID?s (no radio on the node, of course), courtesy tones, hang times, and duplex and such. >>> I ended up just installing a 64-bit Stretch as preconfigured from Vultr, which is likely pretty barebones. Perfect for my need. I was able to ssh into that, set up a repeater account from a root login, and install the ASL packages per the FAQ, thoughtfully sent to me by Rachel, AD9O (saving me a hunt for the relevant incantations). Even ran the menu, which I will likely never do again?editing files by hand is more my thing, but it did make the initial setup all right. >>> So now, I have my spiffy 4-digit node number on the virtual server and will connect the portable node to it whenever that?s on. I may well keep it once I get more permanent ASL gear set up again, which will happen who knows when. A bit of a drawn-out move, plus a new job in my old hometown (where I haven?t lived in 20 years) leaves lots of things up in the air, naturally. >>> Vy 73, de KB5ELV >>>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Mike wrote: >>>> >>>> Perhaps someone else will chime-in with a similar experience/fix. >>>> It's Labor Day WE so I have figured not many reading right now. >>>> But I would like to know what you find, when you do, that is. >>>> >>>> >>>> tnx, >>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>> >>>> On 9/2/2018 12:58 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>> Hey Mike, >>>>> I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual console, but of course can?t interact with it. >>>>> I may check out another solution later, but I?m planning to attack this another direction. >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Without going through the procedure other than memory, >>>>>> you do need to use the iso menu and tell it to boot the iso. >>>>>> (once iso has loaded) >>>>>> >>>>>> But i would think you should be able to hit alt-ctl-del and force that boot 'if it is loaded in the tray'. >>>>>> >>>>>> If that yields nothing, it would have to be more of security/scripting in the browser I would think. >>>>>> I don't run mac's normally but can you try firefox on that mac. >>>>>> >>>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/2/2018 12:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>>> Hey Mike, >>>>>>> I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. >>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is javascript enabled ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a few leads... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My old how2 >>>>>>>> http://29993.link/asl-vps.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>>>>> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >>>>>>>>> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >>>>>>>>> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >>>>>>>>> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >>>>>>>>> Canvas not supported. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is on a Mac using Safari. >>>>>>>>> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >>>>>>>>> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >>>>>>>>> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >>>>>>>>> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >>>>>>>>> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From cnovey at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 16:58:53 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (Clifford Novey) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:58:53 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Android Allstar Control App In-Reply-To: <784ad4e9-1da7-0fd4-83cc-f2d9028e6f7e@myactv.net> References: <784ad4e9-1da7-0fd4-83cc-f2d9028e6f7e@myactv.net> Message-ID: Thanks! I am getting unable to connect to remote asterisk, does asterisk.ctl exist message. I know all my info is correct and forwarding is in place as connection from Putty works fine. Clifford On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 5:51 AM Greg Thornwall wrote: > If anyone is interested, I wrote an app that lets you control your node > via an Android device. It's really simple, connect, disconnect, status and > it shows who is connected. I'll be adding more features when I get time. It > does an ssh connection into the node and issues commands via the CLI. I > would eventually like to add audio using IAX or SIP. I found some SIP demos > with code but have not had the time to experiment with it. I have been > using it on a Samsung, Android 8.0 and 4.4. > > I don't have it on the Play Store but you can download it and install it > manually. More info and download link: > > http://kd3su.com/allStar/app/ > > > For some reason this email did not get posted to the list server before. > > 73 Greg KD3SU > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thorn at myactv.net Sun Sep 2 17:26:35 2018 From: thorn at myactv.net (Greg Thornwall) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 13:26:35 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Android Allstar Control App In-Reply-To: References: <784ad4e9-1da7-0fd4-83cc-f2d9028e6f7e@myactv.net> Message-ID: <55c6d7dd-a44e-487a-8a9b-0ec381663d0d@myactv.net> I have not seen that error before. Did your use root as the user? I'm using sudo for the commands so it might not matter. I have not tested it as another user. See: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Unable+to+connect+to+remote+Asterisk 73 Greg On 09/02/2018 12:58 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > Thanks! > I am getting unable to connect to remote asterisk, does asterisk.ctl > exist message. > I know all my info is correct and forwarding is in place as connection > from Putty works fine. > Clifford? > > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 5:51 AM Greg Thornwall > wrote: > > If anyone is interested, I wrote an app that lets you control your > node via an Android device. It's really simple, connect, > disconnect, status and it shows who is connected. I'll be adding > more features when I get time. It does an ssh connection into the > node and issues commands via the CLI.? I would eventually like to > add audio using IAX or SIP. I found some SIP demos with code but > have not had the time to experiment with it. I have been using it > on a Samsung, Android 8.0 and 4.4.? > > I don't have it on the Play Store but you can download it and > install it manually. More info and download link: > > http://kd3su.com/allStar/app/ > > > For some reason this email did not get posted to the list server > before. > > 73 Greg KD3SU > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email > address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <906c3140-854a-c568-7c4c-9cf6a0d34db1@macski.us> Hi Stephen, That's how I have my 7330 interface set up: duplex = 0 linktolink = yes hangtime = 0 althangtime = 0 I think ikt's working as expected. 73, ? Dave ? WA1JHK On 8/29/2018 6:52 AM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote: > Hi guys, > ? ? ?I recently re-built the node that interfaces to my controller, and one of the things I noticed after re-building it that there was a fairly long hang time, anywhere from 5-10 seconds. > > I have the following set, and unless I'm misinterpreting how this is expected to work, could this be a potential bug? > > duplex = 0 > ;0 = Half duplex with no telemetry tones or hang time. > > linktolink = yes > ; disables forcing physical half-duplex operation of main repeater while > ; still keeping half-duplex semantics (optional) > > I am still testing, but setting the the hang time to "0" appears to have fixed it, I also tried setting other params to "0" in the wait-times section: > > hangtime = 0 > ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) (optional, default 5 seconds, 5000 ms) > > althangtime = 0 > ; longer squelch tail > > [wait-times] > telemwait = 0? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; Time to wait before sending most telemetry > idwait = 500? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; Time to wait before starting ID > unkeywait = 0? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?; Time to wait after unkey before sending CT's and link telemetry > calltermwait = 0? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; Time to wait before announcing "call terminated" > > Anyone else run into this, or is this working as expected? Hardware is a Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and Repeater Builder RIM "lite" SCOM interface. > > 73 > Stephen > K1LNX > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at n8cd.com Sun Sep 2 22:04:22 2018 From: john at n8cd.com (John Wagner) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 18:04:22 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Power Point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alejandro, absolutely! I?m glad to see it get some use outside of our club. Feel free to use & translate any parts of it that can help you. Have fun and good luck with the classes. - John, N8CD > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 15:54:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: Alejandro Pereida > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Power Point > Message-ID: <612543128.2497362.1535903670585 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > John excellent slide show, can I translate your slide show into spanish and use it on our radio club's ham classes? > > Thanks in advance > Alejandro Pereida XE2BSS / N2IX > On Thursday, August 30, 2018, 10:47:53 AM PDT, David Shaw wrote: > > Thanks John, You saved me a lot of time. It looks great. > > > --Thanks, David > > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:15 AM John Wagner wrote: > > Hi David - Here's a slide deck I did for our club that you're welcome to use. This is a couple years old so it's a little dated, and probably has a lot more than you need, but maybe you can use parts of it.? https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lvr3acd16nWjUXIuiOpyRaTF7XzMrF4gfhRCkfXcnRc/edit?usp=sharing > > I'm pretty sure that link should work for anyone that can use it. > ?- John, N8CD > From xe2_bss at yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 22:18:48 2018 From: xe2_bss at yahoo.com (Alejandro Pereida) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 22:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Power Point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <338075562.70035.1535926728113@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you very much On Sunday, September 2, 2018, 3:04:36 PM PDT, John Wagner wrote: Hi Alejandro, absolutely! I?m glad to see it get some use outside of our club. Feel free to use & translate any parts of it that can help you. Have fun and good luck with the classes. - John, N8CD > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 15:54:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: Alejandro Pereida > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Power Point > Message-ID: <612543128.2497362.1535903670585 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > John excellent slide show, can I translate your slide show into spanish and use it on our radio club's ham classes? > > Thanks in advance > Alejandro Pereida XE2BSS / N2IX >? On Thursday, August 30, 2018, 10:47:53 AM PDT, David Shaw wrote:? > > Thanks John, You saved me a lot of time. It looks great. > > > --Thanks, David > > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:15 AM John Wagner wrote: > > Hi David - Here's a slide deck I did for our club that you're welcome to use. This is a couple years old so it's a little dated, and probably has a lot more than you need, but maybe you can use parts of it.? https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lvr3acd16nWjUXIuiOpyRaTF7XzMrF4gfhRCkfXcnRc/edit?usp=sharing > > I'm pretty sure that link should work for anyone that can use it. > ?- John, N8CD > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 2 23:53:05 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 18:53:05 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Deploying a virtual ASL server on Vultr In-Reply-To: <46da29a4-439d-482c-d958-f7559a33d48c@midnighteng.com> References: <326DCD68-A7A5-4070-BE9B-62DA92111724@brannan.name> <916c8e3c-92e7-3731-6887-a235850e727e@midnighteng.com> <8D1B8C72-77F0-4432-B05E-EC5A79CEA1A9@brannan.name> <6850f3af-99d9-19fe-cbfc-3f292eb22c86@midnighteng.com> <2D02FA7B-6311-478B-A703-27CA2C7E4D4C@brannan.name> <8a575fc6-b4f5-35f8-6d40-e779a21300be@midnighteng.com> <0A8ED38E-E46B-4C05-95AA-CC1582D111C5@brannan.name> <46da29a4-439d-482c-d958-f7559a33d48c@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <493050EA-BE05-4338-9489-298861BE19B1@brannan.name> Yep. Standard Debian+ASL packages. All good. And with a running virtual server, I should have fairly little use for the console. Probably none. > On Sep 2, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Mike wrote: > > LOL... > Well I was not sure, but I was about to look at the sched maintenance on vultr as they were having issues with NJ servers during maintenance. > and I know others were on the shed during the holiday weekend. > Upgrading and that sorta stuff. Strange things happen...LOL... > > But the good thing is you worked around whatever it was. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/2/2018 10:34 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> I had someone look at a screenshot of the console page, and it was definitely a boot prompt with the Debian boot menu. This was definitely an accessibility issue, not a ?it?s broke?/?nut behind the keyboard? issue. Neatly gotten around now. >>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Mike wrote: >>> >>> Glad to hear your up and running. >>> Having deployed ASL on a vultr server more than 2 dozen times on vultr with the custom ASL ISO, I really think the vps just had not booted to the iso. But I could be wrong. >>> >>> Once you get this config'd the way you want it, you can take a 'snapshot' (which is currently free for now) and that makes a image of the HDD you can redeploy quickly on the same size or larger server. >>> >>> But, if you use this, just keep in mind that the first thing you have to pay attention to is the ip address if static and you deploy on a new server. But if you config it as DHCP, no issue and it will only get the address assigned to the server. >>> Just one last pointer if it helps. >>> >>> I often run test deployments often on different size servers and use those features often. >>> >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> On 9/2/2018 2:15 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>> Howdy Mike, >>>> All good. I have a basic hub running. The usual tweaking shall commence, like getting rid of the ID?s (no radio on the node, of course), courtesy tones, hang times, and duplex and such. >>>> I ended up just installing a 64-bit Stretch as preconfigured from Vultr, which is likely pretty barebones. Perfect for my need. I was able to ssh into that, set up a repeater account from a root login, and install the ASL packages per the FAQ, thoughtfully sent to me by Rachel, AD9O (saving me a hunt for the relevant incantations). Even ran the menu, which I will likely never do again?editing files by hand is more my thing, but it did make the initial setup all right. >>>> So now, I have my spiffy 4-digit node number on the virtual server and will connect the portable node to it whenever that?s on. I may well keep it once I get more permanent ASL gear set up again, which will happen who knows when. A bit of a drawn-out move, plus a new job in my old hometown (where I haven?t lived in 20 years) leaves lots of things up in the air, naturally. >>>> Vy 73, de KB5ELV >>>>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Mike wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps someone else will chime-in with a similar experience/fix. >>>>> It's Labor Day WE so I have figured not many reading right now. >>>>> But I would like to know what you find, when you do, that is. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> tnx, >>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>> >>>>> On 9/2/2018 12:58 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>> Hey Mike, >>>>>> I?m fairly certain at this point (Rachel O. Assisting) that this is an accessibility issue more than anything. I?m at a boot prompt in the virtual console, but of course can?t interact with it. >>>>>> I may check out another solution later, but I?m planning to attack this another direction. >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Without going through the procedure other than memory, >>>>>>> you do need to use the iso menu and tell it to boot the iso. >>>>>>> (once iso has loaded) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But i would think you should be able to hit alt-ctl-del and force that boot 'if it is loaded in the tray'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If that yields nothing, it would have to be more of security/scripting in the browser I would think. >>>>>>> I don't run mac's normally but can you try firefox on that mac. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/2/2018 12:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>>>> Hey Mike, >>>>>>>> I *think* I?m booted to the ISO. Javascript is definitely enabled. I?ll have a look at your hoot, in any case. >>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Mike wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have you actually booted to the ISO ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is javascript enabled ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It may be security settings on your mac / browser ??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just a few leads... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My old how2 >>>>>>>>> http://29993.link/asl-vps.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2018 11:51 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> ?Or, if there?s a better option, I?m all ears. >>>>>>>>>> But I saw a Youtubevideo on this from WB4ULK, and they did indeed have a deal I couldn?t very well pass up. >>>>>>>>>> So I signed up and got the server configured and the ASL ISO uploaded to the service and the server started. Here?s where I?ve hit a snag. >>>>>>>>>> When I went to view the console, this is what the console window says, along with a ?send ctrl+alt+del?. >>>>>>>>>> Canvas not supported. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is on a Mac using Safari. >>>>>>>>>> Using Google Chrome instead, I get a graphic instead. Presumably that might be a VNC? I don?t know. If it is, it doesn?t help, since I?m blind and can?t work with whatever it is. >>>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to try it, you can get a $25 free credit, and the $5/month server is enough for a virtual ASL server. >>>>>>>>>> https://www.vultr.com/promo25b /?ref=7524970 >>>>>>>>>> It?s my promo code, but if you don?t want to use it, just delete everything from the ? onwards, it?s of no consequence to me :) >>>>>>>>>> So?since this is before anything is set up, so can?t ssh in, I?m kind of stuck right at the beginning and, apparently, have to handle from the console available from the website. >>>>>>>>>> Anyone willing/able to help me get past this and onwards to somewhere I can take over? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> ?Buddy, KB5ELV >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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References: <1437214529.512203.1535970067738.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1437214529.512203.1535970067738@mail.yahoo.com> Good morning all, I have just installed allmon2 on ASL_1.01-20180417-amd64-i386-debian-stretch. unfortunately, I can only see who is connected to my main node 48640 and not my other nodes 48641 - 48645. Any ideas? http://45.76.140.82/allmon2/link.php?nodes=48640,48641,48642,48643,48644,48645 Thank you, for reading. Warmest Regards Joe G7kdz. From k1lnx at k1lnx.net Mon Sep 3 13:06:14 2018 From: k1lnx at k1lnx.net (Stephen - K1LNX) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 09:06:14 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] duplex=0 bug? In-Reply-To: <906c3140-854a-c568-7c4c-9cf6a0d34db1@macski.us> References: <906c3140-854a-c568-7c4c-9cf6a0d34db1@macski.us> Message-ID: Thanks Dave, I concur, after I set it that way it's working as intended. I think the verbage of it is what was throwing me off. 73 Stephen K1LNX On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 2:26 PM Dave Maciorowski wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > That's how I have my 7330 interface set up: > > duplex = 0 > linktolink = yes > hangtime = 0 > althangtime = 0 > > I think ikt's working as expected. > > 73, > > Dave > WA1JHK > > On 8/29/2018 6:52 AM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote: > > Hi guys, > I recently re-built the node that interfaces to my controller, and > one of the things I noticed after re-building it that there was a fairly > long hang time, anywhere from 5-10 seconds. > > I have the following set, and unless I'm misinterpreting how this is > expected to work, could this be a potential bug? > > duplex = 0 > ;0 = Half duplex with no telemetry tones or hang time. > > linktolink = yes > ; disables forcing physical half-duplex operation of main repeater while > ; still keeping half-duplex semantics (optional) > > I am still testing, but setting the the hang time to "0" appears to have > fixed it, I also tried setting other params to "0" in the wait-times > section: > > hangtime = 0 > ; squelch tail hang time (in ms) (optional, default 5 seconds, 5000 ms) > > althangtime = 0 > ; longer squelch tail > > [wait-times] > telemwait = 0 ; Time to wait before sending > most telemetry > idwait = 500 ; Time to wait before starting ID > unkeywait = 0 ; Time to wait after unkey before > sending CT's and link telemetry > calltermwait = 0 ; Time to wait before announcing > "call terminated" > > Anyone else run into this, or is this working as expected? 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URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Sep 3 13:36:51 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 09:36:51 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon2 not working. In-Reply-To: <1437214529.512203.1535970067738@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1437214529.512203.1535970067738.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1437214529.512203.1535970067738@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I could be wrong, but it looks like it's not logging into the AMI. On each server in question. Have you set a password in manager.conf ? Check file permissions/ownership for manager.conf ? Did you restart asterisk on each system after changing those settings ? Is there a firewall block for the AMI port ? A type error in your php file ? Correct port/pwd for each ? [40000] host=140.28.50.10:5038 user=admin passwd=passw nomenu=yes hideNodeURL=no just some places to look... ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/3/2018 6:21 AM, condronj at sky.com wrote: > Good morning all, > > I have just installed allmon2 on ASL_1.01-20180417-amd64-i386-debian-stretch. > unfortunately, I can only see who is connected to my main node 48640 and not > my other nodes 48641 - 48645. Any ideas? > > http://45.76.140.82/allmon2/link.php?nodes=48640,48641,48642,48643,48644,48645 > > Thank you, for reading. > > Warmest Regards > Joe G7kdz. > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From jrorke at cogeco.ca Mon Sep 3 16:58:48 2018 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 12:58:48 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpi root passwd Message-ID: <5B8D6848.8080106@cogeco.ca> Hi All, trying to set up a new RPI node. Using latest rpi Dial release. But need the default root password. Doesn't seem to be listed on the Allstar wiki. the one for Repeater is listed but not root. Anyone point me in the right direction? Cant proceed with configuring my node until I have rot password. Used to be debian but I guess it was changed since the last release. Thanks, Jon RQ From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 17:19:17 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 10:19:17 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpi root passwd In-Reply-To: <5B8D6848.8080106@cogeco.ca> References: <5B8D6848.8080106@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: You have to set one; ?sudo? into root, then generate a new root password. Thanks, Bob K6ECM Sent from iPad > On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:58 AM, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: > > Hi All, trying to set up a new RPI node. Using latest rpi Dial release. But need the default root password. Doesn't seem to be listed on the Allstar wiki. > the one for Repeater is listed but not root. > > Anyone point me in the right direction? > > Cant proceed with configuring my node until I have rot password. > Used to be debian but I guess it was changed since the last release. > > Thanks, > > Jon RQ > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 17:35:41 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 10:35:41 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpi root passwd In-Reply-To: References: <5B8D6848.8080106@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <49C0DD1B-E14E-487B-A3D7-46F01617DCAE@gmail.com> Also, if you want to ssh isn?t root, edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config Change: #PermitRootLogin prohibit-password To: PermitRootLogin yes If you want to change the host name from repeater, edit /etc/hostname Thanks, Bob K6ECM 73 > On Sep 3, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Bob Pyke wrote: > > You have to set one; ?sudo? into root, then generate a new root password. > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > > Sent from iPad > > >> On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:58 AM, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: >> >> Hi All, trying to set up a new RPI node. Using latest rpi Dial release. But need the default root password. Doesn't seem to be listed on the Allstar wiki. >> the one for Repeater is listed but not root. >> >> Anyone point me in the right direction? >> >> Cant proceed with configuring my node until I have rot password. >> Used to be debian but I guess it was changed since the last release. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jon RQ >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From overthetop52 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 18:24:30 2018 From: overthetop52 at yahoo.com (Pete Fierro) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 18:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpi root passwd In-Reply-To: References: <5B8D6848.8080106@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <1344643772.482156.1535999070233@mail.yahoo.com> You also need to do this to get into your winscp if you are using it.This is after you have enabled root ?nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config Scroll down to .... Permit root login yes ? Don't forget to uncomment out the # before the word "Permit" PeteKD2ARB Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 13:19, Bob Pyke wrote: You have to set one; ?sudo? into root, then generate a new root password. Thanks, Bob K6ECM Sent from iPad > On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:58 AM, REDBUTTON_CTRL wrote: > > Hi All, trying to set up a new RPI node. Using latest rpi Dial release. But need the default root password. Doesn't seem to be listed on the Allstar wiki. > the one for Repeater is listed but not root. > > Anyone point me in the right direction? > > Cant proceed with configuring my node until I have rot password. > Used to be debian but I guess it was changed since the last release. > > Thanks, > > Jon RQ > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From jrorke at cogeco.ca Mon Sep 3 18:25:14 2018 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2018 14:25:14 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] rpi root passwd In-Reply-To: <1344643772.482156.1535999070233@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5B8D6848.8080106@cogeco.ca> <1344643772.482156.1535999070233@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5B8D7C8A.7050700@cogeco.ca> Thanks, guys, Mike kb8jnm was able to give me the crucial info. Typing "sudo asl-menu" at the repeater prompt brings up the config menu. From there I was able to get the root password changed and initial set up of the node. I had done a node earlier this year but forgot to document what I had to do. All my notes date back to the older release when we didn't have to use sudo. Everything is good now. Cheers! Jon VA3RQ On 9/3/2018 2:24 PM, Pete Fierro wrote: > You also need to do this to get into your winscp if you are using > it.This is after you have enabled root > > nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config > > Scroll down to .... > > Permit root login yes > > Don't forget to uncomment out the # before the word "Permit" > > Pete > KD2ARB > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 13:19, Bob Pyke > wrote: > You have to set one; "sudo" into root, then generate a new root > password. > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > > Sent from iPad > > > > On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:58 AM, REDBUTTON_CTRL > wrote: > > > > Hi All, trying to set up a new RPI node. Using latest rpi Dial > release. But need the default root password. Doesn't seem to be > listed on the Allstar wiki. > > the one for Repeater is listed but not root. > > > > Anyone point me in the right direction? > > > > Cant proceed with configuring my node until I have rot password. > > Used to be debian but I guess it was changed since the last release. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon RQ > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address > and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via > email confirmation. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme Run the following commands after the first time you boot. sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get this > message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and owners. I use > pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the core > issue may be? > Thanks > Clifford > KK6QMS > > IAX2 show registry: > Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl > exist?) > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From cnovey at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 22:30:11 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (Clifford Novey) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 15:30:11 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime after. Does it require fresh install to be effective? Thanks Clifford On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: > Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? > > > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme > > Run the following commands after the first time you boot. > > sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get upgrade -y > sudo reboot > > at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. > > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > > Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get this > > message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and owners. I > use > > pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the core > > issue may be? > > Thanks > > Clifford > > KK6QMS > > > > IAX2 show registry: > > Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl > > exist?) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Sep 3 22:37:00 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 18:37:00 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have seen many strange things when/if you update/upgrade without putting a hold on updating the kernel headers. Do it first on first boot. If you have some other 4gb+ SD card, why not try it again fresh and be sure. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/3/2018 6:30 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime after. > Does it require fresh install to be effective? > Thanks > Clifford > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: > >> Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? >> >> >> http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme >> >> Run the following commands after the first time you boot. >> >> sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel >> sudo apt-get update >> sudo apt-get upgrade -y >> sudo reboot >> >> at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. >> >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >>> Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get this >>> message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and owners. I >> use >>> pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the core >>> issue may be? >>> Thanks >>> Clifford >>> KK6QMS >>> >>> IAX2 show registry: >>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl >>> exist?) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok sounds good I will try it and report back, thanks. Clifford On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:37 PM Mike wrote: > I have seen many strange things when/if you update/upgrade without > putting a hold on updating the kernel headers. > Do it first on first boot. > > If you have some other 4gb+ SD card, why not try it again fresh > and be sure. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/3/2018 6:30 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > > I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime after. > > Does it require fresh install to be effective? > > Thanks > > Clifford > > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: > > > >> Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? > >> > >> > >> > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme > >> > >> Run the following commands after the first time you boot. > >> > >> sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel > >> sudo apt-get update > >> sudo apt-get upgrade -y > >> sudo reboot > >> > >> at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. > >> > >> > >> ...mike/kb8jnm > >> > >> On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > >>> Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get > this > >>> message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and owners. I > >> use > >>> pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the core > >>> issue may be? > >>> Thanks > >>> Clifford > >>> KK6QMS > >>> > >>> IAX2 show registry: > >>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk > (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl > >>> exist?) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> App_rpt-users mailing list > >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit > >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and > press > >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > >> confirmation. 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URL: From cnovey at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 04:52:57 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 21:52:57 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01d4440b$26dec650$749c52f0$@gmail.com> Just realized something- I never used the image- I am installing stretch from latest build and ASL from dvswitch repository using these instructions- https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ Clifford -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:37 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) I have seen many strange things when/if you update/upgrade without putting a hold on updating the kernel headers. Do it first on first boot. If you have some other 4gb+ SD card, why not try it again fresh and be sure. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/3/2018 6:30 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime after. > Does it require fresh install to be effective? > Thanks > Clifford > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: > >> Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? >> >> >> http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20 >> 180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme >> >> Run the following commands after the first time you boot. >> >> sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo >> apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot >> >> at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. >> >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >>> Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get >>> this message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and >>> owners. I >> use >>> pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the >>> core issue may be? >>> Thanks >>> Clifford >>> KK6QMS >>> >>> IAX2 show registry: >>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk >>> (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl >>> exist?) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From mm at midnighteng.com Tue Sep 4 15:10:08 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:10:08 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) In-Reply-To: <000c01d4440b$26dec650$749c52f0$@gmail.com> References: <000c01d4440b$26dec650$749c52f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Quick and easy. http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ Get the image to sd card, https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ run first boot as per the readme Run the following commands after the first time you boot. sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. done ! When you have a working ASL Pi, Pull your SD card and create a back-up image from the SD ! 'For now' this is the preferred method. Should be a update coming to fix the upgrade issues with kernel/sound and change this. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/4/2018 12:52 AM, cnovey wrote: > Just realized something- I never used the image- I am installing stretch > from latest build and ASL from dvswitch repository using these instructions- > > https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ > Clifford > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On Behalf > Of Mike > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:37 PM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk > (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) > > I have seen many strange things when/if you update/upgrade without putting a > hold on updating the kernel headers. > Do it first on first boot. > > If you have some other 4gb+ SD card, why not try it again fresh and be sure. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/3/2018 6:30 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >> I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime after. >> Does it require fresh install to be effective? >> Thanks >> Clifford >> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: >> >>> Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? >>> >>> >>> http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-20 >>> 180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme >>> >>> Run the following commands after the first time you boot. >>> >>> sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo >>> apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot >>> >>> at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. >>> >>> >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >>>> Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get >>>> this message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and >>>> owners. I >>> use >>>> pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the >>>> core issue may be? >>>> Thanks >>>> Clifford >>>> KK6QMS >>>> >>>> IAX2 show registry: >>>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk >>>> (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl >>>> exist?) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From mm at midnighteng.com Tue Sep 4 16:15:30 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:15:30 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Server Security Message-ID: While I don't have time to get into a in depth discussion on this, I just want to raise awareness with those that read. From time to time I remind some folks about some security issues. It is normally said to anyone to change your ssh port in your first steps, and most will do that if they know how, but if you don't, please ask someone as it is important. The latest ASL package has a nice working firewall that can be enabled from a command line menu (asl-menu) and there is no excuse for not enabling this. But I encourage you to do it in the first steps of your install. You may need to re-run the scripts from the menu as your port usage changes, but it's still a simple thing to do, even if your command line skills are low. The dev team did well on this. It's easy ! The reason I am encouraging you to do this in your first steps, within hours of your install is that I am seeing faster much more craftier hacks that do not do much more than watch as the server goes up and capture ssl data and or passwords, but take no initial actions. Only to come back later and use that data. Really just have their way with it. Whole disk back-ups may not be effective in restoring because the sleeper software may be captured in the backup, so you may just be giving them a easy in the next time. Back-up your important conf files separately, no matter what other method you use. Marking the 'bad guys' by IP with repetitive rejected attempts is starting to fail for me on certain servers unrelated to ASL because they seem to have a unlimited supply of IP's they can use. They don't use the same IP often the same day, but hit the server twice a minute. (many hacked systems just become a launching point to hack others and use your IP). While I have not seen one of these attacks to any of my ASL servers, I know it's coming. I spent the weekend figuring this last one out. So I remind many of you to take action 'without delay' and do those basic things to at least slow the progress of hacks. 1 - change your ssh port 2 - Turn on your firewall and do not enable ports not used. 3 - do not use/enable FTP or the ports for it. SFTP is the only method you should be using. 4 - Back-up your important conf files/scripts separately, no matter what other method you use. That will at least slow/stop many amateurs that are working from a how2 they found on the web. Often, when your system is compromised, it may continue to run as always while they just use it to hack other systems, so, if you can keep a eye on your cpu/bandwidth usage to see when something is not normal is a great help. While doing 'loss prevention', I have been thinking about how to best defend our ASL servers going forward. Do to the nature of our international connections, I am thinking we just need to create and maintain a whitelist of IP's to the 'system IP Tables' as a whole, not asterisk only. It should be easy since the IP list is shared as it is, and we just need to add other outside services IP's to that. But I'm still thinking on it. Perhaps this note will encourage others to think on it as well. These things always get worse, not better. I may write/experiment with this 'whitelist' idea this winter, but be aware, if you are not defending your system, you make it all the easier to hack others as well. Just because your system is running as intended does not mean it has not been compromised. 73, ...mike/kb8jnm From bryan at k6cbr.us Tue Sep 4 16:38:41 2018 From: bryan at k6cbr.us (Bryan St Clair) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:38:41 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Server Security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A secure and unique password should be step 1. For most who don't accept incoming connections on their home network, (meaning no opened ports on the router -- Using NAT) you are very secure. Still good practice to make a complex password and a different ssh port. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 09:15 Mike wrote: > While I don't have time to get into a in depth discussion on this, > I just want to raise awareness with those that read. > > From time to time I remind some folks about some security issues. > > It is normally said to anyone to change your ssh port in your first > steps, and most will do that if they know how, but if you don't, please > ask someone as it is important. > > The latest ASL package has a nice working firewall that can be enabled > from a command line menu (asl-menu) and there is no excuse for not > enabling this. But I encourage you to do it in the first steps of your > install. You may need to re-run the scripts from the menu as your port > usage changes, but it's still a simple thing to do, even if your command > line skills are low. The dev team did well on this. It's easy ! > > The reason I am encouraging you to do this in your first steps, within > hours of your install is that I am seeing faster much more craftier > hacks that do not do much more than watch as the server goes up and > capture ssl data and or passwords, but take no initial actions. > Only to come back later and use that data. Really just have their way > with it. > Whole disk back-ups may not be effective in restoring because the > sleeper software may be captured in the backup, so you may just be > giving them a easy in the next time. > > Back-up your important conf files separately, no matter what other > method you use. > > Marking the 'bad guys' by IP with repetitive rejected attempts is > starting to fail for me on certain servers unrelated to ASL because they > seem to have a unlimited supply of IP's they can use. They don't use the > same IP often the same day, but hit the server twice a minute. > (many hacked systems just become a launching point to hack others and > use your IP). > > While I have not seen one of these attacks to any of my ASL servers, I > know it's coming. > > I spent the weekend figuring this last one out. > So I remind many of you to take action 'without delay' and do those > basic things to at least slow the progress of hacks. > > 1 - change your ssh port > 2 - Turn on your firewall and do not enable ports not used. > 3 - do not use/enable FTP or the ports for it. SFTP is the only method > you should be using. > 4 - Back-up your important conf files/scripts separately, no matter what > other method you use. > > That will at least slow/stop many amateurs that are working from a how2 > they found on the web. Often, when your system is compromised, it may > continue to run as always while they just use it to hack other systems, > so, if you can keep a eye on your cpu/bandwidth usage to see when > something is not normal is a great help. > > While doing 'loss prevention', I have been thinking about how to best > defend our ASL servers going forward. Do to the nature of our > international connections, I am thinking we just need to create and > maintain a whitelist of IP's to the 'system IP Tables' as a whole, not > asterisk only. It should be easy since the IP list is shared as it is, > and we just need to add other outside services IP's to that. > > But I'm still thinking on it. Perhaps this note will encourage others to > think on it as well. These things always get worse, not better. > I may write/experiment with this 'whitelist' idea this winter, but be > aware, if you are not defending your system, you make it all the easier > to hack others as well. Just because your system is running as intended > does not mean it has not been compromised. > > 73, > ...mike/kb8jnm > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Tue Sep 4 17:00:29 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:00:29 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Server Security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 9/4/18 12:38 PM, Bryan St Clair wrote: > For most who don't accept incoming connections on their home network, > (meaning no opened ports on the router -- Using NAT) you are very secure. NAT is not security. Security is not solved by firewalls, or any one thing. Security is a mindset and an approach to looking at systems and protecting them from nefarious operators. AllStar on the default IAX port appears to be an open PBX, and would be quite useful for terminating VoIP calls, which can make attackers much money. By in large AllStar systems are not interconnected with outbound SIP trunks, and thus are a poor attack vector for this. fail2ban can be used not only for ssh, but IAX and SIP too. > https://lelutin.ca/posts/Blocking_bruteforce_attempts_on_Asterisk_with_fail2ban/ I find blackhole routing works best for these, and I'll set it to 3600 seconds. There is something to be said for using non-standard ports as this will cut down on the non-standard scanners. This only obscures the issue, it's not true security in and of it self. Add fail2ban with it and it will block much of it. If you're running a bunch of nodes on a single connection, setup a proxy, this will isolate them onto one device. A firewall helps you keep only what you want exposed. It's amazing how fast stuff can be exploited without a firewall on today's internet. I personally had a server I setup and got lazy as it was late at night, "I'll setup the firewall tomorrow". Tomorrow turned into 3 days and the server had memcached on it being used a packet generator. Turned my 10 mbit/s 95th usage into 998 mbit/s 95th percentile. Lesson learned, security is a mindset and starts day one. Perhaps the best thing you can do is not allow root access and use a good password. Using your callsign is not good, using A115tar isn't secure either. Each user should have their own password, and be enabled to use sudo too. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From bryan at k6cbr.us Tue Sep 4 17:56:53 2018 From: bryan at k6cbr.us (Bryan St Clair) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:56:53 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Server Security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I never stated NAT was security. I referenced what most run at a home configuration. Most current routers have a basic firewall that is denying all traffic except established traffic. Not the older generation of routers. As I said and you ended with, a secure password is the best defence the home user could do. This is the most common failure in security, even at the router level. In my 20+ years experience, networks rarely get exposed unless the user let's someone in via a open port or poor passwords. Or even default passwords. Of course, self inflicted infections are another beast. I have setup hundreds of networks, servers including Allstar servers and they have never had a intrusion. I have never used fail2ban in those cases. In company cases other devices are used, but I won't go into that as most are not in this situation for Allstar. They can't get in if your exposed point is not responsive to their connection attempts. Much more can be done in home networks as you increase exposure and history further. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 10:00 Bryan Fields wrote: > On 9/4/18 12:38 PM, Bryan St Clair wrote: > > For most who don't accept incoming connections on their home network, > > (meaning no opened ports on the router -- Using NAT) you are very secure. > > NAT is not security. > > Security is not solved by firewalls, or any one thing. Security is a > mindset > and an approach to looking at systems and protecting them from nefarious > operators. > > AllStar on the default IAX port appears to be an open PBX, and would be > quite > useful for terminating VoIP calls, which can make attackers much money. > By in > large AllStar systems are not interconnected with outbound SIP trunks, and > thus are a poor attack vector for this. > > fail2ban can be used not only for ssh, but IAX and SIP too. > > > https://lelutin.ca/posts/Blocking_bruteforce_attempts_on_Asterisk_with_fail2ban/ > > I find blackhole routing works best for these, and I'll set it to 3600 > seconds. > > There is something to be said for using non-standard ports as this will cut > down on the non-standard scanners. This only obscures the issue, it's not > true security in and of it self. Add fail2ban with it and it will block > much > of it. > > If you're running a bunch of nodes on a single connection, setup a proxy, > this > will isolate them onto one device. > > A firewall helps you keep only what you want exposed. It's amazing how > fast > stuff can be exploited without a firewall on today's internet. I > personally > had a server I setup and got lazy as it was late at night, "I'll setup the > firewall tomorrow". Tomorrow turned into 3 days and the server had > memcached > on it being used a packet generator. Turned my 10 mbit/s 95th usage into > 998 > mbit/s 95th percentile. > > Lesson learned, security is a mindset and starts day one. > > Perhaps the best thing you can do is not allow root access and use a good > password. Using your callsign is not good, using A115tar isn't secure > either. > Each user should have their own password, and be enabled to use sudo too. > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnovey at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 20:29:09 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:29:09 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) In-Reply-To: References: <000c01d4440b$26dec650$749c52f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004101d4448d$f06a41c0$d13ec540$@gmail.com> ok new node up and running using the image and headers hold instructions. Everything works but still no connect from Zoiper and no allmon2 but will work on those later. iaxrpt software works/connects fine. Also- I like having a gui- any suggestions? I had it with stock stretch install. Is there any downside to installing/enabling gui? Thanks again- Clifford KK6QMS -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 8:10 AM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) Quick and easy. http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ Get the image to sd card, https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ run first boot as per the readme Run the following commands after the first time you boot. sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. done ! When you have a working ASL Pi, Pull your SD card and create a back-up image from the SD ! 'For now' this is the preferred method. Should be a update coming to fix the upgrade issues with kernel/sound and change this. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/4/2018 12:52 AM, cnovey wrote: > Just realized something- I never used the image- I am installing > stretch from latest build and ASL from dvswitch repository using these > instructions- > > https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ > Clifford > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On > Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:37 PM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote > asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) > > I have seen many strange things when/if you update/upgrade without > putting a hold on updating the kernel headers. > Do it first on first boot. > > If you have some other 4gb+ SD card, why not try it again fresh and be sure. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/3/2018 6:30 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >> I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime after. >> Does it require fresh install to be effective? >> Thanks >> Clifford >> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: >> >>> Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? >>> >>> >>> http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-2 >>> 0 180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme >>> >>> Run the following commands after the first time you boot. >>> >>> sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel >>> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot >>> >>> at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. >>> >>> >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >>>> Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get >>>> this message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and >>>> owners. I >>> use >>>> pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the >>>> core issue may be? >>>> Thanks >>>> Clifford >>>> KK6QMS >>>> >>>> IAX2 show registry: >>>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk >>>> (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl >>>> exist?) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From mm at midnighteng.com Tue Sep 4 21:05:28 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:05:28 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) In-Reply-To: <004101d4448d$f06a41c0$d13ec540$@gmail.com> References: <000c01d4440b$26dec650$749c52f0$@gmail.com> <004101d4448d$f06a41c0$d13ec540$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0a74a1c7-3bec-b8af-62cd-2ea971e6ee1c@midnighteng.com> Considering you have no more than 1gb ram to play with, a GUI is not advisable even if possible. If you did do this, it If you are using a program like WinSCP to manipulate the files, IAXRPT to run remotely. I do have a 3B+ running ASL with a DMR bridge, a recorder node, has Allmon2 installed. So enough room and speed for that stuff. that would be as far as I would go. leave some ram to play with something else in the future. I'm sure you will find the issues for the other things. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/4/2018 4:29 PM, cnovey wrote: > ok new node up and running using the image and headers hold instructions. > Everything works but still no connect from Zoiper and no allmon2 but will > work on those later. iaxrpt software works/connects fine. > Also- I like having a gui- any suggestions? I had it with stock stretch > install. Is there any downside to installing/enabling gui? > Thanks again- > Clifford > KK6QMS > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On Behalf > Of Mike > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 8:10 AM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk > (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) > > Quick and easy. > > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ > Get the image to sd card, > https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ > > run first boot as per the readme > Run the following commands after the first time you boot. > > sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo > apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot > > at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. > > > done ! > > When you have a working ASL Pi, > Pull your SD card and create a back-up image from the SD ! > > 'For now' this is the preferred method. Should be a update coming to fix the > upgrade issues with kernel/sound and change this. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/4/2018 12:52 AM, cnovey wrote: >> Just realized something- I never used the image- I am installing >> stretch from latest build and ASL from dvswitch repository using these >> instructions- >> >> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ >> Clifford >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users On >> Behalf Of Mike >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:37 PM >> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote >> asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) >> >> I have seen many strange things when/if you update/upgrade without >> putting a hold on updating the kernel headers. >> Do it first on first boot. >> >> If you have some other 4gb+ SD card, why not try it again fresh and be > sure. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 9/3/2018 6:30 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >>> I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime after. >>> Does it require fresh install to be effective? >>> Thanks >>> Clifford >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: >>> >>>> Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? >>>> >>>> >>>> http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-2 >>>> 0 180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme >>>> >>>> Run the following commands after the first time you boot. >>>> >>>> sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel >>>> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot >>>> >>>> at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. >>>> >>>> >>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>> >>>> On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >>>>> Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get >>>>> this message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and >>>>> owners. I >>>> use >>>>> pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the >>>>> core issue may be? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Clifford >>>>> KK6QMS >>>>> >>>>> IAX2 show registry: >>>>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk >>>>> (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl >>>>> exist?) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >>>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 22:22:15 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 15:22:15 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) In-Reply-To: <004101d4448d$f06a41c0$d13ec540$@gmail.com> References: <000c01d4440b$26dec650$749c52f0$@gmail.com> <004101d4448d$f06a41c0$d13ec540$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8613EEBD-510D-4F27-A671-73E5DFC5F207@gmail.com> I don?t know if this has changed, but it?s been my understanding that both the GUI and Allstar want to have control of the server, which, if true, would impact the real-time requirements of asterisk. Thanks, Bob k6ecm 73 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2018, at 1:29 PM, cnovey wrote: > > ok new node up and running using the image and headers hold instructions. > Everything works but still no connect from Zoiper and no allmon2 but will > work on those later. iaxrpt software works/connects fine. > Also- I like having a gui- any suggestions? I had it with stock stretch > install. Is there any downside to installing/enabling gui? > Thanks again- > Clifford > KK6QMS > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On Behalf > Of Mike > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 8:10 AM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk > (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) > > Quick and easy. > > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ > Get the image to sd card, > https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ > > run first boot as per the readme > Run the following commands after the first time you boot. > > sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo > apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot > > at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. > > > done ! > > When you have a working ASL Pi, > Pull your SD card and create a back-up image from the SD ! > > 'For now' this is the preferred method. Should be a update coming to fix the > upgrade issues with kernel/sound and change this. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > >> On 9/4/2018 12:52 AM, cnovey wrote: >> Just realized something- I never used the image- I am installing >> stretch from latest build and ASL from dvswitch repository using these >> instructions- >> >> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ >> Clifford >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: App_rpt-users On >> Behalf Of Mike >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:37 PM >> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote >> asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) >> >> I have seen many strange things when/if you update/upgrade without >> putting a hold on updating the kernel headers. >> Do it first on first boot. >> >> If you have some other 4gb+ SD card, why not try it again fresh and be > sure. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >>> On 9/3/2018 6:30 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >>> I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime after. >>> Does it require fresh install to be effective? >>> Thanks >>> Clifford >>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: >>>> >>>> Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? >>>> >>>> >>>> http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-2 >>>> 0 180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme >>>> >>>> Run the following commands after the first time you boot. >>>> >>>> sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel >>>> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot >>>> >>>> at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. >>>> >>>> >>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>> >>>>> On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: >>>>> Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get >>>>> this message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and >>>>> owners. I >>>> use >>>>> pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the >>>>> core issue may be? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Clifford >>>>> KK6QMS >>>>> >>>>> IAX2 show registry: >>>>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk >>>>> (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl >>>>> exist?) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >>>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From cnovey at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 18:48:56 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (Clifford Novey) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 11:48:56 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) In-Reply-To: <0a74a1c7-3bec-b8af-62cd-2ea971e6ee1c@midnighteng.com> References: <000c01d4440b$26dec650$749c52f0$@gmail.com> <004101d4448d$f06a41c0$d13ec540$@gmail.com> <0a74a1c7-3bec-b8af-62cd-2ea971e6ee1c@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: I ran w GUI and seemed fine. Was convenient to have browser, text editor etc. I will leave it as it is though and improve my command line skills! Also to install Midnight Commander I had to un-comment a repository, is that ok in light of the kernel header hold etc. Any reason that would not be a good idea? Thanks Clifford KK6QMS On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 2:05 PM Mike wrote: > Considering you have no more than 1gb ram to play with, > a GUI is not advisable even if possible. > If you did do this, it > > If you are using a program like WinSCP to manipulate the files, > IAXRPT to run remotely. > I do have a 3B+ running ASL with a DMR bridge, a recorder node, has > Allmon2 installed. So enough room and speed for that stuff. > that would be as far as I would go. leave some ram to play with > something else in the future. > I'm sure you will find the issues for the other things. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/4/2018 4:29 PM, cnovey wrote: > > ok new node up and running using the image and headers hold instructions. > > Everything works but still no connect from Zoiper and no allmon2 but will > > work on those later. iaxrpt software works/connects fine. > > Also- I like having a gui- any suggestions? I had it with stock stretch > > install. Is there any downside to installing/enabling gui? > > Thanks again- > > Clifford > > KK6QMS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: App_rpt-users On > Behalf > > Of Mike > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 8:10 AM > > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote > asterisk > > (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) > > > > Quick and easy. > > > > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ > > Get the image to sd card, > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ > > > > run first boot as per the readme > > Run the following commands after the first time you boot. > > > > sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo > > apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot > > > > at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. > > > > > > done ! > > > > When you have a working ASL Pi, > > Pull your SD card and create a back-up image from the SD ! > > > > 'For now' this is the preferred method. Should be a update coming to fix > the > > upgrade issues with kernel/sound and change this. > > > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > > On 9/4/2018 12:52 AM, cnovey wrote: > >> Just realized something- I never used the image- I am installing > >> stretch from latest build and ASL from dvswitch repository using these > >> instructions- > >> > >> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ > >> Clifford > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: App_rpt-users On > >> Behalf Of Mike > >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:37 PM > >> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Ideas re: Unable to connect to remote > >> asterisk (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) > >> > >> I have seen many strange things when/if you update/upgrade without > >> putting a hold on updating the kernel headers. > >> Do it first on first boot. > >> > >> If you have some other 4gb+ SD card, why not try it again fresh and be > > sure. > >> > >> ...mike/kb8jnm > >> > >> On 9/3/2018 6:30 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > >>> I am not sure if I did during first install. I did try it sometime > after. > >>> Does it require fresh install to be effective? > >>> Thanks > >>> Clifford > >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 3:04 PM Mike wrote: > >>> > >>>> Did you follow these instructionsfrom the readme ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ASL_1.01-2 > >>>> 0 180228-armhf-raspbian-stretch-image.readme > >>>> > >>>> Run the following commands after the first time you boot. > >>>> > >>>> sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel > >>>> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot > >>>> > >>>> at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ...mike/kb8jnm > >>>> > >>>> On 9/3/2018 5:19 PM, Clifford Novey wrote: > >>>>> Pi stretch, stock allstar install and allmon2. Using asl-menu I get > >>>>> this message. Have tried to create the dir w diff permissions and > >>>>> owners. I > >>>> use > >>>>> pi not root for main user. Ideas as to how I can solve or what the > >>>>> core issue may be? > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> Clifford > >>>>> KK6QMS > >>>>> > >>>>> IAX2 show registry: > >>>>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk > >>>>> (does/var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl > >>>>> exist?) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list > >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >>>>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit > >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address > >>>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > >>>> confirmation. 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URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Wed Sep 5 19:28:58 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:28:58 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Dial raspberry pi install In-Reply-To: <20180905185219.949EC12A0140@morty.keekles.org> References: <20180905185219.949EC12A0140@morty.keekles.org> Message-ID: <154aecf3-dbb8-58c8-ce34-3d1e0373297c@midnighteng.com> Why not work from a SD image Quick and easy. http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ Get the image to sd card, https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ run first boot as per the readme Run the following commands after the first time you boot. sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. done ! When you have a working ASL Pi, Pull your SD card and create a back-up image from the SD ! 'For now' this is the preferred method. Should be a update coming to fix the upgrade issues with kernel/sound and change this. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/5/2018 2:52 PM, n3ssl wrote: > All, > Downloaded 2/13/18 jessie for raspberry pi. Installed and changed password. > How do I get into the first time install.? Appears things are locked down. > > Ryan n3ssl > N3ssl at Yahoo com > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From jrorke at cogeco.ca Wed Sep 5 22:52:14 2018 From: jrorke at cogeco.ca (REDBUTTON_CTRL) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 18:52:14 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Dial raspberry pi install In-Reply-To: <154aecf3-dbb8-58c8-ce34-3d1e0373297c@midnighteng.com> References: <20180905185219.949EC12A0140@morty.keekles.org> <154aecf3-dbb8-58c8-ce34-3d1e0373297c@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <5B905E1E.9040907@cogeco.ca> Might want to revise those instructions. change: at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. to at the # prompt run "sudo asl-menu" to setup your node. Otherwise it will say you do not have root access. and the menu wont run. That was the snag I ran in to. The Devil is always in the details. Jon VA3RQ On 9/5/2018 3:28 PM, Mike wrote: > Why not work from a SD image > > Quick and easy. > > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch/ > Get the image to sd card, > https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ > > run first boot as per the readme > Run the following commands after the first time you boot. > > sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get upgrade -y > sudo reboot > > at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. > > > done ! > > When you have a working ASL Pi, > Pull your SD card and create a back-up image from the SD ! > > 'For now' this is the preferred method. Should be a update coming to > fix the upgrade issues with kernel/sound and change this. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/5/2018 2:52 PM, n3ssl wrote: >> All, >> Downloaded 2/13/18 jessie for raspberry pi. Installed and changed >> password. >> How do I get into the first time install. Appears things are locked >> down. >> >> Ryan n3ssl >> N3ssl at Yahoo com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a >> message to the list detailing the problem. >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address > and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message > to the list detailing the problem. From george at dyb.com Thu Sep 6 04:35:19 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 23:35:19 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] remote base Message-ID: <3e9b439e-1264-0152-7c47-6751fc269d71@dyb.com> Folks, I had a remote working back around 2010 using app_rpt. B ut I cannot find my documentation. I'm trying to lash it up again. But hit a brick wall on setting it up. Anybody have any config info that pertains specifically to remote. I've googled it but it leads to pretty incomplete info on this... GeorgeC W2DB nodes 2360, 2428, 28599 --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Thu Sep 6 04:58:31 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 00:58:31 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] remote base In-Reply-To: <3e9b439e-1264-0152-7c47-6751fc269d71@dyb.com> References: <3e9b439e-1264-0152-7c47-6751fc269d71@dyb.com> Message-ID: <66e42afd-abe5-af48-72cc-2b4bbdbc26fa@midnighteng.com> A file would be dependent on your particulars. But, It's just a node as any other, define your cor/ptt/pl logic & audio methods, and if is a freq agile remote, you may need to define port for tuning. See the wiki (i think it's in there) but some tune via serial and a DH-1 and some other though a parallel port definition. And define what kind of radio remote it is so it's tuning the right data instructions on that port. A parallel port definition in rpt.conf iobase=0x378 ; Parallel port address or civaddr=72 ;(for ic-706) Radio: remote=ic706 remote=rbi ; (doug hall rbi-1) and last you need to specify that the node number is a remote base in rpt.conf node descriptions, with a 'Y' 1999 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/1999,Y But it might help some if you state what kind of remote base you wish to set-up. It's not all the same. hope this helped. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/6/2018 12:35 AM, George Csahanin wrote: > Folks, I had a remote working back around 2010 using app_rpt. B ut I > cannot find my documentation. I'm trying to lash it up again. But hit a > brick wall on setting it up. Anybody have any config info that pertains > specifically to remote. > > I've googled it but it leads to pretty incomplete info on this... > > GeorgeC W2DB > > nodes 2360, 2428, 28599 > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From cummingsj at gmail.com Thu Sep 6 13:56:22 2018 From: cummingsj at gmail.com (JJC) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 07:56:22 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Server Security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At the end of the day just because a device does not respond doesn?t mean an adversary can?t get into it. Even if it?s ?secured? behind some type of NAT/Firewall or nat then very plainly the adversary first gets into that device via a variety of potential mechanisms (I cite the recent VPNFilter activity and subsequent script kiddy fallout using the same/similar techniques) Security is certainly a bit of a mindset, and even if you are ?security minded? it doesn?t mean that you won?t get owned. Often adversaries are in infrastructure and either never noticed or noticed so late that the majority of the damage has been done (that?s generally how they are discovered after all). Certainly there are many things that you can do in terms of steps to help slow/stop the bad guys. Many of the statements made to date are decent... changing the ssh port will help, of course a basic portscanner will find this change, a complex non dictionary based password is great but an ssh keypair (google it) is even better! If you don?t need to accept incoming connections from external nodes (you only connect out to nodes) then block those incoming ports. Update update update, one of my biggest pet peeves is the fact that many of these systems go without updates. I published a how-to not so long ago that allows you to also update the kernel (security fixes, bug fixes, stability enhancements etc etc etc....). Security, like many things, boils down to a decision point about cost of money and time vs operational considerations. For example you can secure things reasonably well, as discussed here, for relatively low administrative overhead. Alternately you can add things like IDS/IPS and filesystem integrity tools that alert you when something changes, you can add central logging and regularly audit those logs and on and on and on :). So to summarize, a bullet list of minimal things: * Port change (only so effective) * Disallow remote root logon * Use a unique username (with sudo) * Setup and use SSH keys for authentication * Disable password based authentication entirely * Update all the things frequently (this means the ASL system as well as inline devices such as the router/firewall that the internet connection is actually on) * Turn off anything that isn?t required * Firewall off all the things that don?t require inbound connections * Tools like fail2ban are great! More things that can be done... * Central logging of all the things (audited regularly) * Filesystem integrity tool usage (including AV) * IPS/IDS (again regularly audited) I?m tired of typing on this iThing keyboard but I think I get my point across. This is not a comprehensive list by any means, but it?s a good primer I feel. Sent from the iRoad > On Sep 4, 2018, at 11:56, Bryan St Clair wrote: > > I never stated NAT was security. I referenced what most run at a home configuration. Most current routers have a basic firewall that is denying all traffic except established traffic. Not the older generation of routers. > > As I said and you ended with, a secure password is the best defence the home user could do. This is the most common failure in security, even at the router level. In my 20+ years experience, networks rarely get exposed unless the user let's someone in via a open port or poor passwords. Or even default passwords. Of course, self inflicted infections are another beast. > > I have setup hundreds of networks, servers including Allstar servers and they have never had a intrusion. I have never used fail2ban in those cases. In company cases other devices are used, but I won't go into that as most are not in this situation for Allstar. > > They can't get in if your exposed point is not responsive to their connection attempts. > > Much more can be done in home networks as you increase exposure and history further. > > > >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 10:00 Bryan Fields wrote: >> On 9/4/18 12:38 PM, Bryan St Clair wrote: >> > For most who don't accept incoming connections on their home network, >> > (meaning no opened ports on the router -- Using NAT) you are very secure. >> >> NAT is not security. >> >> Security is not solved by firewalls, or any one thing. Security is a mindset >> and an approach to looking at systems and protecting them from nefarious >> operators. >> >> AllStar on the default IAX port appears to be an open PBX, and would be quite >> useful for terminating VoIP calls, which can make attackers much money. By in >> large AllStar systems are not interconnected with outbound SIP trunks, and >> thus are a poor attack vector for this. >> >> fail2ban can be used not only for ssh, but IAX and SIP too. >> > https://lelutin.ca/posts/Blocking_bruteforce_attempts_on_Asterisk_with_fail2ban/ >> >> I find blackhole routing works best for these, and I'll set it to 3600 seconds. >> >> There is something to be said for using non-standard ports as this will cut >> down on the non-standard scanners. This only obscures the issue, it's not >> true security in and of it self. Add fail2ban with it and it will block much >> of it. >> >> If you're running a bunch of nodes on a single connection, setup a proxy, this >> will isolate them onto one device. >> >> A firewall helps you keep only what you want exposed. It's amazing how fast >> stuff can be exploited without a firewall on today's internet. I personally >> had a server I setup and got lazy as it was late at night, "I'll setup the >> firewall tomorrow". Tomorrow turned into 3 days and the server had memcached >> on it being used a packet generator. Turned my 10 mbit/s 95th usage into 998 >> mbit/s 95th percentile. >> >> Lesson learned, security is a mindset and starts day one. >> >> Perhaps the best thing you can do is not allow root access and use a good >> password. Using your callsign is not good, using A115tar isn't secure either. >> Each user should have their own password, and be enabled to use sudo too. >> >> 73's >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From george at dyb.com Thu Sep 6 16:24:13 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:24:13 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] remote base Message-ID: <334D4FBD-6529-4C5E-9A3D-2D5ABC32E64F@dyb.com> Mike, I have done all of the above fir my remote, a ft897 . But something is not right. When I try showvard fir the node I get a core dump, and asterisk exits. I just need to find a complete how-to on it. What is on the wiki is very thin on info. There used to be sample config files for a remote but can?t find it. If I comment out remote = ft897 and do showvars I get no dump. Is current DIAL for Pi able to do remotes? I have to dig, maybe I can find the computer I used fir a remote in 2010... George Csahanin Retired Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2018, at 11:58 PM, Mike wrote: > > A file would be dependent on your particulars. > But, > It's just a node as any other, define your cor/ptt/pl logic & audio methods, > and if is a freq agile remote, you may need to define port for tuning. See the wiki (i think it's in there) but some tune via serial and a DH-1 and some other though a parallel port definition. And define what kind of radio remote it is so it's tuning the right data instructions on that port. > > A parallel port definition in rpt.conf > iobase=0x378 ; Parallel port address > or > civaddr=72 ;(for ic-706) > Radio: > remote=ic706 > remote=rbi ; (doug hall rbi-1) > > and last you need to specify that the node number is a remote base > in rpt.conf node descriptions, with a 'Y' > 1999 = radio at 127.0.0.1:4569/1999,Y > > But it might help some if you state what kind of remote base you wish to set-up. It's not all the same. hope this helped. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > >> On 9/6/2018 12:35 AM, George Csahanin wrote: >> Folks, I had a remote working back around 2010 using app_rpt. B ut I cannot find my documentation. I'm trying to lash it up again. But hit a brick wall on setting it up. Anybody have any config info that pertains specifically to remote. >> I've googled it but it leads to pretty incomplete info on this... >> GeorgeC W2DB >> nodes 2360, 2428, 28599 >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From george at dyb.com Sat Sep 8 22:54:08 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 17:54:08 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] odd remote base problem Message-ID: I managed to get my remote working. sort of... All functions work, its a ft-897, its running ACID. But it had one very odd issue. Three nodes at home, 28599 (900 MSF), 2360 (440 simplex node (original repeater failed) and node 2428, the remote base. It runs on ACID, 2360 is Limey, 28599 a one year old DIAL on a Pi. I cannot connect 28599 to 2428, it tells me there is a conflict I have all three with their rpt.conf have node entries for each other. That issue seems unrelated. I can connect node 2360 to 2428. I hear audio from the remote just fine. But when I talk into 2360 from my portable no audio comes out the FOB on the 2428 ACID PC. If I do radio-tune menu on 2428 and have a tone sent out to the remote that works. If I connect 28599 to 2360 and use a talky to transmit to 28599 that audio comes out 2428 to the ft-897. The docs on remote base are real thin. I had this all figured out in 2010 but can't find any notes on it after two moves. Using USBRADIO on the remote right now. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks GeorgeC W2DB -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5710 office 401-338-0568 cel george at w2db.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: george.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 236 bytes Desc: not available URL: From george at dyb.com Sun Sep 9 16:27:56 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 11:27:56 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] failed to connect error message Message-ID: <5386eac6-1da5-528d-023f-8384651d99b8@dyb.com> Trying to connect from 28599 (192.168.1.107) to 2428 (192.168.1.73) I get the following failure message on 2428: ??? -- Accepting UNAUTHENTICATED call from 192.168.1.107: ?????? > requested format = gsm, ?????? > requested prefs = (gsm|ilbc|g726aal2|ulaw), ?????? > actual format = g726aal2, ?????? > host prefs = (g726aal2|gsm), ?????? > priority = mine ??? -- Executing [2428 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221", "2428") in new stack [Sep? 9 11:49:25] WARNING[24760]: app_rpt.c:22701 rpt_exec: Reported node 28599, name none cannot be found!! ? == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 2428, 1) exited non-zero on 'IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221' ??? -- Hungup 'IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221' 2428*CLI> Again, a head scratcher for me. As I get older this is more frequent... GeorgeC W2DB --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From steve at m0hoy.com Sun Sep 9 16:31:14 2018 From: steve at m0hoy.com (Stephen Curtis) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:31:14 +0100 Subject: [App_rpt-users] failed to connect error message In-Reply-To: <5386eac6-1da5-528d-023f-8384651d99b8@dyb.com> References: <5386eac6-1da5-528d-023f-8384651d99b8@dyb.com> Message-ID: Hi George, If these two nodes are both internal on the same network. Have you added them both to the nodes stanzas in rpt.conf? Cheers Steve > On 9 Sep 2018, at 17:27, George Csahanin wrote: > > Trying to connect from 28599 (192.168.1.107) to 2428 (192.168.1.73) I get the following failure message on 2428: > > -- Accepting UNAUTHENTICATED call from 192.168.1.107: > > requested format = gsm, > > requested prefs = (gsm|ilbc|g726aal2|ulaw), > > actual format = g726aal2, > > host prefs = (g726aal2|gsm), > > priority = mine > -- Executing [2428 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221", "2428") in new stack > [Sep 9 11:49:25] WARNING[24760]: app_rpt.c:22701 rpt_exec: Reported node 28599, name none cannot be found!! > == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 2428, 1) exited non-zero on 'IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221' > -- Hungup 'IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221' > 2428*CLI> > > Again, a head scratcher for me. As I get older this is more frequent... > > GeorgeC W2DB > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From george at dyb.com Mon Sep 10 16:09:16 2018 From: george at dyb.com (George Csahanin) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:09:16 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] failed to connect error message In-Reply-To: References: <5386eac6-1da5-528d-023f-8384651d99b8@dyb.com> Message-ID: Update on this Yes, they were in each others node stanza...but...at the end of the node line I had "NONE" in lower case on one. As soon as I corrected that to uppercase(???!!!) they could connect. Thanks. GeorgeC On 9/9/2018 11:31 AM, Stephen Curtis wrote: > Hi George, > > If these two nodes are both internal on the same network. Have you added them both to the nodes stanzas in rpt.conf? > > Cheers > Steve > >> On 9 Sep 2018, at 17:27, George Csahanin wrote: >> >> Trying to connect from 28599 (192.168.1.107) to 2428 (192.168.1.73) I get the following failure message on 2428: >> >> -- Accepting UNAUTHENTICATED call from 192.168.1.107: >> > requested format = gsm, >> > requested prefs = (gsm|ilbc|g726aal2|ulaw), >> > actual format = g726aal2, >> > host prefs = (g726aal2|gsm), >> > priority = mine >> -- Executing [2428 at radio-secure:1] Rpt("IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221", "2428") in new stack >> [Sep 9 11:49:25] WARNING[24760]: app_rpt.c:22701 rpt_exec: Reported node 28599, name none cannot be found!! >> == Spawn extension (radio-secure, 2428, 1) exited non-zero on 'IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221' >> -- Hungup 'IAX2/192.168.1.107:4571-5221' >> 2428*CLI> >> >> Again, a head scratcher for me. As I get older this is more frequent... >> >> GeorgeC W2DB >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > -- George Csahanin 10100 Carson Ranch Rd. Crowley, TX 76036 682-708-5716 home 401-338-0568 cel From ssedgwick at suddenlink.net Tue Sep 11 19:27:43 2018 From: ssedgwick at suddenlink.net (ssedgwick) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 14:27:43 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Pi-Zero Support? Message-ID: Does the Pi-Zero work with ASL_1.01-20180228 version of allstar? It see to load fine and I have wifi working on the pi-Zero, but it?s not registering and the heart beat LED on the fob is not flashing. I may have done something wrong, but before I start over I want to make sure it will work. The reason I?m using the pi-zero is I need the lowest possible power consumption and wifi connectivity. Thanks, Steve_WB8GRS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not Authorized from IP 39.60.218.51 rgds On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: > Bryan, > > The ISP I am using is engaged in a lot of packet manipulations which they > don't agree to but the evidence is there :) . the Issue is resolved. > support much appreciated. > > Mike, > > thankyou for the support and input. > > > 73's > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Bryan Fields > wrote: > >> On 6/18/18 5:43 AM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: >> > The >> > bigger plan is to putup at least 3 nodes in Pakistan linking 3 city >> > coverage repeaters together in future while having the facility of world >> > being connected to us or vise versa :D. >> >> Are you sure your ISP isn't doing any packet molesting? >> >> > The issue in subject line has been posted many times before and I have >> gone >> > through almost all of them for the past 3+ days now but to no avail. The >> > node does not show up in the online nodes list nor on >> > http://status.allstarlink.org/nodeinfo.cgi?node=48092 where as it does >> > showup green in system-wide node list, the iax2 show registry shows >> >> Two different things here. The register server is how it's perceived by >> asterisk IAX2 registration and you can see this status at: >> https://allstarlink.org/nodelist.php >> >> The stats server gets updated via http get request from your node. The >> src ip >> of this http request must match the node you're registered from, or it >> will be >> dropped. >> >> It's entirely possible to be online and working for linking via IAX2, but >> not >> show up in the stats server. >> >> >> > allstarlink1*CLI> iax2 show registry >> > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh >> > State >> > 67.215.233.178:4569 Y 48092 39.50.88.107:10880 60 >> > Registered >> >> Yep you're online and people can connect to you, or should be able to. >> >> >> > have checked all possible network settings and no change from the first >> day >> > it went online. >> > >> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo cat /tmp/rpt_extnodes-temp | grep 48092 >> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo grep 48092 /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes >> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >> >> Looks like you have your port number in the portal config wrong. You're >> using >> 10880, but the portal config for your server is the default. >> >> If I change your entry here on my system to port 10880 I can connect to >> you. >> >> > ran tcpdump on the allstarnode and I can see the packets being sent and >> > acknowledged (below). >> >> BTW, props on this solid output. 39.50.88.107 is your node IP. >> >> I just looked at the logs on the webserver. It's seeing the request >> > 39.50.120.2 - - [18/Jun/2018:09:46:12 -0400] "GET >> /uhandler.php?node=48092&time=1529329571&seqno=664&keyed=0&keytime=11697 >> HTTP/1.1" 200 251 "-" "Wget/1.18 (linux-gnu)" >> >> Is your ISP running a transparent cache or engaging in some other packet >> fuckery? I allowed your ISP's entire block and it's working now in the >> stats >> server :) >> >> 73's >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> http://bryanfields.net >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/c >> gi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of >> the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit >> options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Shehzad > ---- > "My name is Legion, for we are many" > -- Regards, Shehzad ---- "My name is Legion, for we are many" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shehzad.hamid at gmail.com Tue Sep 11 21:38:16 2018 From: shehzad.hamid at gmail.com (Shehzad Hamid) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 02:38:16 +0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AP2CJ Node 48092 no longer in DB In-Reply-To: References: <4eec7416-24e5-1d90-5997-5aabb867c864@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: Bryan, cant register aswell. repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh State 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48092 60 Request Sent repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh State 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48092 60 Timeout Please help Regards, On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:30 AM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > I am facing same issue again, please help. > > Error! Not Authorized from IP 39.60.218.51 > > rgds > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Shehzad Hamid > wrote: > >> Bryan, >> >> The ISP I am using is engaged in a lot of packet manipulations which they >> don't agree to but the evidence is there :) . the Issue is resolved. >> support much appreciated. >> >> Mike, >> >> thankyou for the support and input. >> >> >> 73's >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Bryan Fields >> wrote: >> >>> On 6/18/18 5:43 AM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: >>> > The >>> > bigger plan is to putup at least 3 nodes in Pakistan linking 3 city >>> > coverage repeaters together in future while having the facility of >>> world >>> > being connected to us or vise versa :D. >>> >>> Are you sure your ISP isn't doing any packet molesting? >>> >>> > The issue in subject line has been posted many times before and I have >>> gone >>> > through almost all of them for the past 3+ days now but to no avail. >>> The >>> > node does not show up in the online nodes list nor on >>> > http://status.allstarlink.org/nodeinfo.cgi?node=48092 where as it does >>> > showup green in system-wide node list, the iax2 show registry shows >>> >>> Two different things here. The register server is how it's perceived by >>> asterisk IAX2 registration and you can see this status at: >>> https://allstarlink.org/nodelist.php >>> >>> The stats server gets updated via http get request from your node. The >>> src ip >>> of this http request must match the node you're registered from, or it >>> will be >>> dropped. >>> >>> It's entirely possible to be online and working for linking via IAX2, >>> but not >>> show up in the stats server. >>> >>> >>> > allstarlink1*CLI> iax2 show registry >>> > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh >>> > State >>> > 67.215.233.178:4569 Y 48092 39.50.88.107:10880 >>> 60 >>> > Registered >>> >>> Yep you're online and people can connect to you, or should be able to. >>> >>> >>> > have checked all possible network settings and no change from the >>> first day >>> > it went online. >>> > >>> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo cat /tmp/rpt_extnodes-temp | grep 48092 >>> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >>> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo grep 48092 >>> /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes >>> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >>> >>> Looks like you have your port number in the portal config wrong. You're >>> using >>> 10880, but the portal config for your server is the default. >>> >>> If I change your entry here on my system to port 10880 I can connect to >>> you. >>> >>> > ran tcpdump on the allstarnode and I can see the packets being sent and >>> > acknowledged (below). >>> >>> BTW, props on this solid output. 39.50.88.107 is your node IP. >>> >>> I just looked at the logs on the webserver. It's seeing the request >>> > 39.50.120.2 - - [18/Jun/2018:09:46:12 -0400] "GET >>> /uhandler.php?node=48092&time=1529329571&seqno=664&keyed=0&keytime=11697 >>> HTTP/1.1" 200 251 "-" "Wget/1.18 (linux-gnu)" >>> >>> Is your ISP running a transparent cache or engaging in some other packet >>> fuckery? I allowed your ISP's entire block and it's working now in the >>> stats >>> server :) >>> >>> 73's >>> -- >>> Bryan Fields >>> >>> 727-409-1194 - Voice >>> http://bryanfields.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >>> the list detailing the problem. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Shehzad >> ---- >> "My name is Legion, for we are many" >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Shehzad > ---- > "My name is Legion, for we are many" > -- Regards, Shehzad ---- "My name is Legion, for we are many" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From loren at lorentedford.com Tue Sep 11 23:04:45 2018 From: loren at lorentedford.com (Loren Tedford) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:04:45 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Way to disable registration via dtmf then enable when needed? Message-ID: <4d764c95-4137-e927-95ad-97a8060a436a@lorentedford.com> Hello!! So sorry for no updates on my prior posts! You all have been extremely helpful and i have been able to resolve my port issues along with some other odd things i had missed in my rpt.conf files at the repeater site.. However here is my problem I have 10 gigs to work with month after month at the repeater site and I made the mistake after putting the system back online by using ulaw and it ate about 1 gig a day in data alone including the vpn traffic.. Now i have the system up and at the moment i am eating about 50mb a day with registration turned on to allstarlink however i was wondering if there is a way to disable registration or possibly fake back end to another node on my web server which then in turn would handle the data via pass through dtmf of some sort when needing to connect to a node via rf on either repeater. In the past on gsm i typically only use about 8 gigs a month of data however after coming close to going over my data plans at the site 400 mb left till tomorrow i am wondering what other steps i can do when things get crazy but yet still leave my vpn in place if possible.. Also i did notice that my system went into a constant loop after boot up because the vpn hadn't connected i would like to solve this issue as well not sure what is causing it and i know its not a typical setup. We are located in an area where internet is very difficult and using 4glte with external antennas to bring internet into our two repeaters here in Olney. From bryan at bryanfields.net Tue Sep 11 23:33:41 2018 From: bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:33:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [App_rpt-users] AP2CJ Node 48092 no longer in DB In-Reply-To: References: <4eec7416-24e5-1d90-5997-5aabb867c864@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: Can you ping and traceroute to the register server? -- Bryan Fields M: +1-727-409-1194 > On Sep 11, 2018, at 17:38, Shehzad Hamid wrote: > > Bryan, > > cant register aswell. > > repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh State > 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48092 60 Request Sent > > repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh State > 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48092 60 Timeout > > Please help > > > Regards, > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:30 AM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: >> Hi Bryan, >> >> I am facing same issue again, please help. >> >> Error! Not Authorized from IP 39.60.218.51 >> rgds >> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: >>> Bryan, >>> >>> The ISP I am using is engaged in a lot of packet manipulations which they don't agree to but the evidence is there :) . the Issue is resolved. support much appreciated. >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> thankyou for the support and input. >>> >>> >>> 73's >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: >>>> On 6/18/18 5:43 AM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: >>>> > The >>>> > bigger plan is to putup at least 3 nodes in Pakistan linking 3 city >>>> > coverage repeaters together in future while having the facility of world >>>> > being connected to us or vise versa :D. >>>> >>>> Are you sure your ISP isn't doing any packet molesting? >>>> >>>> > The issue in subject line has been posted many times before and I have gone >>>> > through almost all of them for the past 3+ days now but to no avail. The >>>> > node does not show up in the online nodes list nor on >>>> > http://status.allstarlink.org/nodeinfo.cgi?node=48092 where as it does >>>> > showup green in system-wide node list, the iax2 show registry shows >>>> >>>> Two different things here. The register server is how it's perceived by >>>> asterisk IAX2 registration and you can see this status at: >>>> https://allstarlink.org/nodelist.php >>>> >>>> The stats server gets updated via http get request from your node. The src ip >>>> of this http request must match the node you're registered from, or it will be >>>> dropped. >>>> >>>> It's entirely possible to be online and working for linking via IAX2, but not >>>> show up in the stats server. >>>> >>>> >>>> > allstarlink1*CLI> iax2 show registry >>>> > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh >>>> > State >>>> > 67.215.233.178:4569 Y 48092 39.50.88.107:10880 60 >>>> > Registered >>>> >>>> Yep you're online and people can connect to you, or should be able to. >>>> >>>> >>>> > have checked all possible network settings and no change from the first day >>>> > it went online. >>>> > >>>> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo cat /tmp/rpt_extnodes-temp | grep 48092 >>>> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >>>> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo grep 48092 /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes >>>> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >>>> >>>> Looks like you have your port number in the portal config wrong. You're using >>>> 10880, but the portal config for your server is the default. >>>> >>>> If I change your entry here on my system to port 10880 I can connect to you. >>>> >>>> > ran tcpdump on the allstarnode and I can see the packets being sent and >>>> > acknowledged (below). >>>> >>>> BTW, props on this solid output. 39.50.88.107 is your node IP. >>>> >>>> I just looked at the logs on the webserver. It's seeing the request >>>> > 39.50.120.2 - - [18/Jun/2018:09:46:12 -0400] "GET /uhandler.php?node=48092&time=1529329571&seqno=664&keyed=0&keytime=11697 HTTP/1.1" 200 251 "-" "Wget/1.18 (linux-gnu)" >>>> >>>> Is your ISP running a transparent cache or engaging in some other packet >>>> fuckery? I allowed your ISP's entire block and it's working now in the stats >>>> server :) >>>> >>>> 73's >>>> -- >>>> Bryan Fields >>>> >>>> 727-409-1194 - Voice >>>> http://bryanfields.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Shehzad >>> ---- >>> "My name is Legion, for we are many" >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Shehzad >> ---- >> "My name is Legion, for we are many" > > > > -- > Regards, > Shehzad > ---- > "My name is Legion, for we are many" > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 03:15:08 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 23:15:08 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Way to disable registration via dtmf then enable when needed? In-Reply-To: <4d764c95-4137-e927-95ad-97a8060a436a@lorentedford.com> References: <4d764c95-4137-e927-95ad-97a8060a436a@lorentedford.com> Message-ID: You can call any script from adtmf macro. Saying this so that you can follow what I am thinking. Now, if you call a script that kill ASL and switch the rpt.conf file with another one that have the registering argument commented then restart ASL, ASL should not try to register. that is the beauty of ASL, if you can do some bash scripting, you can do anything. Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 ? 19:04, Loren Tedford a ?crit : > Hello!! So sorry for no updates on my prior posts! You all have been > extremely helpful and i have been able to resolve my port issues along > with some other odd things i had missed in my rpt.conf files at the > repeater site.. > > However here is my problem I have 10 gigs to work with month after month > at the repeater site and I made the mistake after putting the system > back online by using ulaw and it ate about 1 gig a day in data alone > including the vpn traffic.. Now i have the system up and at the moment i > am eating about 50mb a day with registration turned on to allstarlink > however i was wondering if there is a way to disable registration or > possibly fake back end to another node on my web server which then in > turn would handle the data via pass through dtmf of some sort when > needing to connect to a node via rf on either repeater. > > In the past on gsm i typically only use about 8 gigs a month of data > however after coming close to going over my data plans at the site 400 > mb left till tomorrow i am wondering what other steps i can do when > things get crazy but yet still leave my vpn in place if possible.. Also > i did notice that my system went into a constant loop after boot up > because the vpn hadn't connected i would like to solve this issue as > well not sure what is causing it and i know its not a typical setup. We > are located in an area where internet is very difficult and using 4glte > with external antennas to bring internet into our two repeaters here in > Olney. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shehzad.hamid at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 06:35:42 2018 From: shehzad.hamid at gmail.com (Shehzad Hamid) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:35:42 +0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AP2CJ Node 48092 no longer in DB In-Reply-To: References: <4eec7416-24e5-1d90-5997-5aabb867c864@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: I can ping and traceroute output below for your kind perusal and advice. root at repeater:~# ping register.allstarlink.org PING register.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from register-tpa.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=379 ms 64 bytes from register-tpa.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145): icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=378 ms 64 bytes from register-tpa.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145): icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=377 ms ^C root at repeater:~# traceroute register.allstarlink.org traceroute to register.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 csp1.zte.com.cn.home (192.168.1.1) 0.926 ms 8.306 ms 1.303 ms 2 182.176.0.122 (182.176.0.122) 43.207 ms 43.310 ms 43.555 ms 3 10.0.1.25 (10.0.1.25) 37.495 ms 10.0.1.17 (10.0.1.17) 38.840 ms 39.901 ms 4 10.0.2.86 (10.0.2.86) 40.848 ms 42.573 ms 43.488 ms 5 10.2.1.6 (10.2.1.6) 68.346 ms 71.092 ms 72.776 ms 6 static-10GE-KHI494-P01-KHI494-SWA.pie.net.pk (202.125.128.174) 77.033 ms rwp44.pie.net.pk (221.120.248.11) 69.905 ms static-10GE-KHI494-P01-KHI494-SWB.pie.net.pk (202.125.128.157) 69.766 ms 7 rwp44.pie.net.pk (221.120.248.3) 73.728 ms Sw275a-khi77c1.pie.net.pk (202.125.128.163) 65.192 ms 3.248.120.221.in-addr.arpa (221.120.248.3) 66.560 ms 8 xe1-0-1.palermo3.pal.seabone.net (195.22.197.66) 160.471 ms 159.694 ms 158.032 ms 9 ae20.milano51.mil.seabone.net (195.22.205.13) 183.696 ms ae21.milano51.mil.seabone.net (195.22.205.39) 185.457 ms 187.411 ms 10 ntt-verio.milano51.mil.seabone.net (93.186.128.157) 255.706 ms 255.403 ms 258.838 ms 11 ae-0.r24.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.178) 263.258 ms 267.674 ms 271.037 ms 12 ae-3.r25.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.69) 275.679 ms 275.872 ms 276.466 ms 13 ae-5.r23.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.6.162) 362.091 ms 365.389 ms 356.104 ms 14 ae-1.r20.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.87) 377.172 ms 352.735 ms 354.480 ms 15 ae-8.r05.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.150) 359.258 ms ae-10.r04.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.142) 362.029 ms 367.194 ms 16 ae-7.a00.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.203) 362.533 ms ae-8.a00.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.41) 366.431 ms 203.2.250.129.in-addr.arpa (129.250.2.203) 356.216 ms 17 xe-0-0-47-2.a00.miamfl02.bboi.net (157.238.179.114) 378.817 ms 393.322 ms 388.294 ms 18 66.216.2.12 (66.216.2.12) 383.409 ms 388.816 ms 388.620 ms 19 66.216.50.34 (66.216.50.34) 388.577 ms 394.712 ms 388.535 ms 20 ASL-hv.keekles.org (199.47.174.141) 385.379 ms 381.342 ms 391.047 ms 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:33 AM, Bryan Fields wrote: > Can you ping and traceroute to the register server? > > -- > Bryan Fields > M: +1-727-409-1194 > > On Sep 11, 2018, at 17:38, Shehzad Hamid wrote: > > Bryan, > > cant register aswell. > > repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh > State > 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48092 60 > Request Sent > > repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh > State > 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48092 60 > Timeout > > Please help > > > Regards, > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:30 AM, Shehzad Hamid > wrote: > >> Hi Bryan, >> >> I am facing same issue again, please help. >> >> Error! Not Authorized from IP 39.60.218.51 >> >> rgds >> >> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Shehzad Hamid >> wrote: >> >>> Bryan, >>> >>> The ISP I am using is engaged in a lot of packet manipulations which >>> they don't agree to but the evidence is there :) . the Issue is resolved. >>> support much appreciated. >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> thankyou for the support and input. >>> >>> >>> 73's >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Bryan Fields >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/18/18 5:43 AM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: >>>> > The >>>> > bigger plan is to putup at least 3 nodes in Pakistan linking 3 city >>>> > coverage repeaters together in future while having the facility of >>>> world >>>> > being connected to us or vise versa :D. >>>> >>>> Are you sure your ISP isn't doing any packet molesting? >>>> >>>> > The issue in subject line has been posted many times before and I >>>> have gone >>>> > through almost all of them for the past 3+ days now but to no avail. >>>> The >>>> > node does not show up in the online nodes list nor on >>>> > http://status.allstarlink.org/nodeinfo.cgi?node=48092 where as it >>>> does >>>> > showup green in system-wide node list, the iax2 show registry shows >>>> >>>> Two different things here. The register server is how it's perceived by >>>> asterisk IAX2 registration and you can see this status at: >>>> https://allstarlink.org/nodelist.php >>>> >>>> The stats server gets updated via http get request from your node. The >>>> src ip >>>> of this http request must match the node you're registered from, or it >>>> will be >>>> dropped. >>>> >>>> It's entirely possible to be online and working for linking via IAX2, >>>> but not >>>> show up in the stats server. >>>> >>>> >>>> > allstarlink1*CLI> iax2 show registry >>>> > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived >>>> Refresh >>>> > State >>>> > 67.215.233.178:4569 Y 48092 39.50.88.107:10880 >>>> 60 >>>> > Registered >>>> >>>> Yep you're online and people can connect to you, or should be able to. >>>> >>>> >>>> > have checked all possible network settings and no change from the >>>> first day >>>> > it went online. >>>> > >>>> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo cat /tmp/rpt_extnodes-temp | grep 48092 >>>> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >>>> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo grep 48092 >>>> /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes >>>> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >>>> >>>> Looks like you have your port number in the portal config wrong. >>>> You're using >>>> 10880, but the portal config for your server is the default. >>>> >>>> If I change your entry here on my system to port 10880 I can connect to >>>> you. >>>> >>>> > ran tcpdump on the allstarnode and I can see the packets being sent >>>> and >>>> > acknowledged (below). >>>> >>>> BTW, props on this solid output. 39.50.88.107 is your node IP. >>>> >>>> I just looked at the logs on the webserver. It's seeing the request >>>> > 39.50.120.2 - - [18/Jun/2018:09:46:12 -0400] "GET >>>> /uhandler.php?node=48092&time=1529329571&seqno=664&keyed=0&keytime=11697 >>>> HTTP/1.1" 200 251 "-" "Wget/1.18 (linux-gnu)" >>>> >>>> Is your ISP running a transparent cache or engaging in some other packet >>>> fuckery? I allowed your ISP's entire block and it's working now in >>>> the stats >>>> server :) >>>> >>>> 73's >>>> -- >>>> Bryan Fields >>>> >>>> 727-409-1194 - Voice >>>> http://bryanfields.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and >>>> press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >>>> the list detailing the problem. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Shehzad >>> ---- >>> "My name is Legion, for we are many" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Shehzad >> ---- >> "My name is Legion, for we are many" >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Shehzad > ---- > "My name is Legion, for we are many" > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/ > cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of > the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit > options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/ > cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of > the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit > options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From shehzad.hamid at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 10:03:02 2018 From: shehzad.hamid at gmail.com (Shehzad Hamid) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:03:02 +0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] AP2CJ Node 48092 no longer in DB In-Reply-To: References: <4eec7416-24e5-1d90-5997-5aabb867c864@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: Sirs, it just got registered. thankyou for the support. rgds On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: > I can ping and traceroute output below for your kind perusal and advice. > > root at repeater:~# ping register.allstarlink.org > PING register.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145) 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from register-tpa.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145): icmp_seq=1 > ttl=53 time=379 ms > 64 bytes from register-tpa.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145): icmp_seq=2 > ttl=53 time=378 ms > 64 bytes from register-tpa.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145): icmp_seq=3 > ttl=53 time=377 ms > ^C > > root at repeater:~# traceroute register.allstarlink.org > traceroute to register.allstarlink.org (44.98.254.145), 30 hops max, 60 > byte packets > 1 csp1.zte.com.cn.home (192.168.1.1) 0.926 ms 8.306 ms 1.303 ms > 2 182.176.0.122 (182.176.0.122) 43.207 ms 43.310 ms 43.555 ms > 3 10.0.1.25 (10.0.1.25) 37.495 ms 10.0.1.17 (10.0.1.17) 38.840 ms > 39.901 ms > 4 10.0.2.86 (10.0.2.86) 40.848 ms 42.573 ms 43.488 ms > 5 10.2.1.6 (10.2.1.6) 68.346 ms 71.092 ms 72.776 ms > 6 static-10GE-KHI494-P01-KHI494-SWA.pie.net.pk (202.125.128.174) > 77.033 ms rwp44.pie.net.pk (221.120.248.11) 69.905 ms > static-10GE-KHI494-P01-KHI494-SWB.pie.net.pk (202.125.128.157) 69.766 ms > 7 rwp44.pie.net.pk (221.120.248.3) 73.728 ms Sw275a-khi77c1.pie.net.pk > (202.125.128.163) 65.192 ms 3.248.120.221.in-addr.arpa (221.120.248.3) > 66.560 ms > 8 xe1-0-1.palermo3.pal.seabone.net (195.22.197.66) 160.471 ms 159.694 > ms 158.032 ms > 9 ae20.milano51.mil.seabone.net (195.22.205.13) 183.696 ms > ae21.milano51.mil.seabone.net (195.22.205.39) 185.457 ms 187.411 ms > 10 ntt-verio.milano51.mil.seabone.net (93.186.128.157) 255.706 ms > 255.403 ms 258.838 ms > 11 ae-0.r24.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.178) 263.258 ms > 267.674 ms 271.037 ms > 12 ae-3.r25.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.69) 275.679 ms > 275.872 ms 276.466 ms > 13 ae-5.r23.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.6.162) 362.091 ms > 365.389 ms 356.104 ms > 14 ae-1.r20.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.87) 377.172 ms > 352.735 ms 354.480 ms > 15 ae-8.r05.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.150) 359.258 ms > ae-10.r04.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.142) 362.029 ms 367.194 > ms > 16 ae-7.a00.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.203) 362.533 ms > ae-8.a00.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.41) 366.431 ms > 203.2.250.129.in-addr.arpa (129.250.2.203) 356.216 ms > 17 xe-0-0-47-2.a00.miamfl02.bboi.net (157.238.179.114) 378.817 ms > 393.322 ms 388.294 ms > 18 66.216.2.12 (66.216.2.12) 383.409 ms 388.816 ms 388.620 ms > 19 66.216.50.34 (66.216.50.34) 388.577 ms 394.712 ms 388.535 ms > 20 ASL-hv.keekles.org (199.47.174.141) 385.379 ms 381.342 ms 391.047 > ms > 21 * * * > 22 * * * > 23 * * * > 24 * * * > 25 * * * > 26 * * * > 27 * * * > 28 * * * > 29 * * * > 30 * * * > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:33 AM, Bryan Fields > wrote: > >> Can you ping and traceroute to the register server? >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> M: +1-727-409-1194 >> >> On Sep 11, 2018, at 17:38, Shehzad Hamid wrote: >> >> Bryan, >> >> cant register aswell. >> >> repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry >> Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh >> State >> 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48092 60 >> Request Sent >> >> repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry >> Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh >> State >> 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48092 60 >> Timeout >> >> Please help >> >> >> Regards, >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:30 AM, Shehzad Hamid >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Bryan, >>> >>> I am facing same issue again, please help. >>> >>> Error! Not Authorized from IP 39.60.218.51 >>> >>> rgds >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Shehzad Hamid >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Bryan, >>>> >>>> The ISP I am using is engaged in a lot of packet manipulations which >>>> they don't agree to but the evidence is there :) . the Issue is resolved. >>>> support much appreciated. >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> thankyou for the support and input. >>>> >>>> >>>> 73's >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Bryan Fields >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/18/18 5:43 AM, Shehzad Hamid wrote: >>>>> > The >>>>> > bigger plan is to putup at least 3 nodes in Pakistan linking 3 city >>>>> > coverage repeaters together in future while having the facility of >>>>> world >>>>> > being connected to us or vise versa :D. >>>>> >>>>> Are you sure your ISP isn't doing any packet molesting? >>>>> >>>>> > The issue in subject line has been posted many times before and I >>>>> have gone >>>>> > through almost all of them for the past 3+ days now but to no avail. >>>>> The >>>>> > node does not show up in the online nodes list nor on >>>>> > http://status.allstarlink.org/nodeinfo.cgi?node=48092 where as it >>>>> does >>>>> > showup green in system-wide node list, the iax2 show registry shows >>>>> >>>>> Two different things here. The register server is how it's perceived >>>>> by >>>>> asterisk IAX2 registration and you can see this status at: >>>>> https://allstarlink.org/nodelist.php >>>>> >>>>> The stats server gets updated via http get request from your node. >>>>> The src ip >>>>> of this http request must match the node you're registered from, or it >>>>> will be >>>>> dropped. >>>>> >>>>> It's entirely possible to be online and working for linking via IAX2, >>>>> but not >>>>> show up in the stats server. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > allstarlink1*CLI> iax2 show registry >>>>> > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived >>>>> Refresh >>>>> > State >>>>> > 67.215.233.178:4569 Y 48092 39.50.88.107:10880 >>>>> 60 >>>>> > Registered >>>>> >>>>> Yep you're online and people can connect to you, or should be able to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > have checked all possible network settings and no change from the >>>>> first day >>>>> > it went online. >>>>> > >>>>> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo cat /tmp/rpt_extnodes-temp | grep >>>>> 48092 >>>>> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >>>>> > repeater at allstarlink1:~$ sudo grep 48092 >>>>> /var/lib/asterisk/rpt_extnodes >>>>> > 48092=radio at 39.50.88.107:4569/48092,39.50.88.107 >>>>> >>>>> Looks like you have your port number in the portal config wrong. >>>>> You're using >>>>> 10880, but the portal config for your server is the default. >>>>> >>>>> If I change your entry here on my system to port 10880 I can connect >>>>> to you. >>>>> >>>>> > ran tcpdump on the allstarnode and I can see the packets being sent >>>>> and >>>>> > acknowledged (below). >>>>> >>>>> BTW, props on this solid output. 39.50.88.107 is your node IP. >>>>> >>>>> I just looked at the logs on the webserver. It's seeing the request >>>>> > 39.50.120.2 - - [18/Jun/2018:09:46:12 -0400] "GET >>>>> /uhandler.php?node=48092&time=1529329571&seqno=664&keyed=0&keytime=11697 >>>>> HTTP/1.1" 200 251 "-" "Wget/1.18 (linux-gnu)" >>>>> >>>>> Is your ISP running a transparent cache or engaging in some other >>>>> packet >>>>> fuckery? I allowed your ISP's entire block and it's working now in >>>>> the stats >>>>> server :) >>>>> >>>>> 73's >>>>> -- >>>>> Bryan Fields >>>>> >>>>> 727-409-1194 - Voice >>>>> http://bryanfields.net >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From k2krs at arrl.net Wed Sep 12 14:22:24 2018 From: k2krs at arrl.net (K2KRS Ken) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 09:22:24 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Trouble with minicom on new install In-Reply-To: <967923813.1871361.1536758868095@mail.yahoo.com> References: <967923813.1871361.1536758868095.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <967923813.1871361.1536758868095@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Did you try running 'apt-get update'? On 2018-09-12 08:27 AM, TGundo 2003 wrote: > Morning all- > Just did a fresh install, upgraded to a new Pi. > Everything went very smooth, copied over my config files and > everything started working as it should. > One issue though- I am trying to put Minicom back on and I get this: > root at repeater:~# apt-get install minicomReading package lists... > DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneE: Unable > to locate package minicomroot at repeater:~# > Any ideas? I am running this as root. > Thanks!TomW9SRV From dshaw at ke6upi.com Wed Sep 12 14:25:36 2018 From: dshaw at ke6upi.com (David KE6UPI) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 07:25:36 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Trouble with minicom on new install In-Reply-To: <967923813.1871361.1536758868095@mail.yahoo.com> References: <967923813.1871361.1536758868095.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <967923813.1871361.1536758868095@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Tom, Did you update apt-get? "apt-get update" David On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:27 AM TGundo 2003 wrote: > Morning all- > > Just did a fresh install, upgraded to a new Pi. > > Everything went very smooth, copied over my config files and everything > started working as it should. > > One issue though- I am trying to put Minicom back on and I get this: > > root at repeater:~# apt-get install minicom > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > E: Unable to locate package minicom > root at repeater:~# > > Any ideas? I am running this as root. > > Thanks! > Tom > W9SRV > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tgundo2003 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 15:21:16 2018 From: tgundo2003 at yahoo.com (TGundo 2003) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Trouble with minicom on new install In-Reply-To: References: <967923813.1871361.1536758868095.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <967923813.1871361.1536758868095@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1111163285.3734461.1536765676555@mail.yahoo.com> Same question twice! loo Yes- did that, worked fine. Here's the procedure I followed (Thanks Mike!): Got the image from: Index of /files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch Put the image on the SD card.Then I did this after it booted: sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot All the update/upgrades went fine. Then I changed my PW's and SSH port. Copied back my config files from backup to the /etc/asterisk folder. That's it. Thanks!Tom On Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 9:25:59 AM CDT, David KE6UPI wrote: Hello Tom, Did you update apt-get? "apt-get update" David On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:27 AM TGundo 2003 wrote: Morning all- Just did a fresh install, upgraded to a new Pi. Everything went very smooth, copied over my config files and everything started working as it should. One issue though- I am trying to put Minicom back on and I get this: root at repeater:~# apt-get install minicomReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneE: Unable to locate package minicomroot at repeater:~# Any ideas? I am running this as root. Thanks!TomW9SRV_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Here's the procedure I followed (Thanks Mike!): Got the image from: Index of /files/ASL_Images/Raspberry_Pi/Stretch Put the image on the SD card.Then I did this after it booted: sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot All the update/upgrades went fine. Then I changed my PW's and SSH port. Copied back my config files from backup to the /etc/asterisk folder. That's it. Thanks!Tom On Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 9:25:59 AM CDT, David KE6UPI wrote: Hello Tom, Did you update apt-get? "apt-get update" David On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:27 AM TGundo 2003 wrote: Morning all- Just did a fresh install, upgraded to a new Pi. Everything went very smooth, copied over my config files and everything started working as it should. One issue though- I am trying to put Minicom back on and I get this: root at repeater:~# apt-get install minicomReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneE: Unable to locate package minicomroot at repeater:~# Any ideas? I am running this as root. Thanks!TomW9SRV_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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References: <1424055733.4500808.1536798804491.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1424055733.4500808.1536798804491@mail.yahoo.com> I'm perplexed/challenged to locate install-able, agnostic sources for either Allmon2 and/or SuperMon x.yy.zzz.... preferring the latter. How/where does one acquire and apply working code for either/both? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Thu Sep 13 00:48:29 2018 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:48:29 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Allmon2 /Supermon x.x Sources? In-Reply-To: <1424055733.4500808.1536798804491@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1424055733.4500808.1536798804491.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1424055733.4500808.1536798804491@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. > On Sep 12, 2018, at 20:33, Jim Aspinwall No1PC wrote: > > I'm perplexed/challenged to locate install-able, agnostic sources for either Allmon2 and/or SuperMon x.yy.zzz.... preferring the latter. > > How/where does one acquire and apply working code for either/both? > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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In-Reply-To: <4d764c95-4137-e927-95ad-97a8060a436a@lorentedford.com> References: <4d764c95-4137-e927-95ad-97a8060a436a@lorentedford.com> Message-ID: <1536807800.1534.1.camel@Project23D.com> registration is not the killer,? it is the VPN and updatenodelist.service Truth be told, if you only get inbound connections, and make connections to nodes you familiar with, then it may be advisable to put those nodes and their IPs in your rpt.conf If the updatenodelist.service fails, the database does not get deleted. It can be still used. It will just take a while for your node to tell you the outbound connection is failed, and you will not be made aware of new nodes coming online. Why do you keep a persistent VPN connection? Also, if you have allmon running, depending on polling frequency, it can use 80kbytes/sec -> 4.8MB/min -> 6.9GB/day To put this in perspective, in the last ten days, I have watched a handful count of hours of youtube and netflix (I don't own a TV, so watching is not a lot). NetStat on my router box says I have transferred 81GB. ulaw is only 10kB/sec, where-as if you can tolerate g726, it is 6.75/kB/sec. Again: 10kB/sec -> 600kB/minute -> 36MB/hr -> 864MB/24hours. I seriously doubt there is THAT much overhead for voice data. I also doubt that you have a 24/7 voice path. by no means is this to discredit the info you have provided, but it appears there are other network services running on/thru your cell connection. Firewall all outbound ports except the ones you need. I'd like to make mention that getting another means of internet to your repeater site should be a top priority. Cell data is nice and all that, however, as those fools in the hurricane states are going to soon find out, their nodes using cellular data on repeaters are going to make the repeaters standalone if not other means exist. Hard-wired networking and making our own datalinks is kinda what we hams do, and WHY we exist -> to provide communications when the big boys are stumbling/fallen. I have node idea why the thought of using cellular data for ham radio communications is even considered.? [rant off] Benjamin, KB9LFZ On Tue, 2018-09-11 at 18:04 -0500, Loren Tedford wrote: > Hello!! So sorry for no updates on my prior posts! You all have been? > extremely helpful and i have been able to resolve my port issues > along? > with some other odd things i had missed in my rpt.conf files at the? > repeater site.. > > However here is my problem I have 10 gigs to work with month after > month? > at the repeater site and I made the mistake after putting the system? > back online by using ulaw and it ate about 1 gig a day in data alone? > including the vpn traffic.. Now i have the system up and at the > moment i? > am eating about 50mb a day with registration turned on to > allstarlink? > however i was wondering if there is a way to disable registration or? > possibly fake back end to another node on my web server which then > in? > turn would handle the data via pass through dtmf of some sort when? > needing to connect to a node via rf on either repeater. > > In the past on gsm i typically only use about 8 gigs a month of data? > however after coming close to going over my data plans at the site > 400? > mb left till tomorrow i am wondering what other steps i can do when? > things get crazy but yet still leave my vpn in place if possible.. > Also? > i did notice that my system went into a constant loop after boot up? > because the vpn hadn't connected i would like to solve this issue as? > well not sure what is causing it and i know its not a typical setup. > We? > are located in an area where internet is very difficult and using > 4glte? > with external antennas to bring internet into our two repeaters here > in? > Olney. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.o > rg/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the > bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the > "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a > message to the list detailing the problem.? From tgundo2003 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 04:24:05 2018 From: tgundo2003 at yahoo.com (TGundo 2003) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 04:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] A couple of connected node questions References: <340865172.4149541.1536812645400.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <340865172.4149541.1536812645400@mail.yahoo.com> Getting close to my first deployment going live, putting the finishing touches on it. Couple of questions I can't seem to find answers to. 1. Is there a way to see in the console what nodes are currently connected to your node? 2. Is there a way to only allow certain nodes to your node? I kinda looked at the blacklist/whitelist thing in the ASL-Menu, not sure if thats where to look. I guess I'm looking to have a whitelist to add to as opposed to a blacklist to block. Thanks!TomW9SRV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tgundo2003 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 05:33:30 2018 From: tgundo2003 at yahoo.com (TGundo 2003) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 05:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio dropouts References: <202573107.4136612.1536816810241.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <202573107.4136612.1536816810241@mail.yahoo.com> I recently updated my node to a Pi b3+ because I was having audio dropout issues and we suspected it was a resource issue with the pi. Did some testing tonight, seemed better, had a little dropout but nothing like it was. I have a pretty stretched internet connection as I live in the farm fields, so we figured it was just a bandwidth issue on my connection. Later tonight as I did more testing I monitored with an IAX client. I get the same dropouts on it just on the local LAN. This was the results of my Ping test internally from the Pi to a local managed switch was this: 202 packets transmitted, 202 received, 0% packet loss, time 211498ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.647/0.844/5.241/0.507 ms I'm not seeing an issue with the internal network. I'm wondering what else it may be, and/or if there is a scientific way to pinpoint the trouble.I'm using Repeater Builder USB RIM Lite for interfacing my Pi to the S-Com7330. Any thoughts welcome! Thanks!Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From qrz at tg9aor.net Thu Sep 13 18:07:45 2018 From: qrz at tg9aor.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Roberto_Ru=C3=ADz_Garc=C3=ADa_Salas_TG9AOR?=) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 18:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] NODE 48455 not showing int the Database at stats.allstarlink.org Message-ID: I wanted to integrate a private node to my current, working setup. I stopped the services, edited accordingly the rpt, extensions, and modules conf files. I restarted the services, I am no longer in the list. I can connect to node 48270, and I am shown under current logins under echolink. I ran iax2 show registry, output below. Linux repeater 4.9.80-v7+ #1098 SMP Fri Mar 9 19:11:42 GMT 2018 armv7l The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Thu Sep 13 11:36:36 2018 from 10.0.0.6 repeater at repeater:~ $ sudo asterisk -c AllStarLink Asterisk Version 1.01 2/13/2018 GIT Version adaec47 Copyright (C) 1999 - 2018 Digium, Inc. Jim Dixon, AllStarLink Inc. and others. Created by Mark Spencer Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show warranty' for details. This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details. ========================================================================= [ Booting... [ Reading Master Configuration ] [ Initializing Custom Configuration Options ] [Sep 13 12:02:24] NOTICE[1627]: dnsmgr.c:394 do_reload: Managed DNS entries will be refreshed every 300 seconds. [Sep 13 12:02:24] NOTICE[1627]: cdr.c:1416 do_reload: CDR simple logging enabled. [Sep 13 12:02:24] NOTICE[1627]: loader.c:874 load_modules: 57 modules will be loaded. ......................................................... ] Asterisk Ready. *CLI> [Sep 13 12:02:25] NOTICE[1633]: app_rpt.c:22184 rpt_master: Normal Repeater Init? 48455 [Sep 13 12:02:25] NOTICE[1633]: app_rpt.c:22184 rpt_master: Normal Repeater Init? 70421 iax2 show registry Host????????????????? dnsmgr? Username??? Perceived???????????? Refresh? State 44.98.254.145:4569??? Y?????? 48455?????? 190.148.222.28:4569??????? 60? Registered *CLI> What happened? Thanks. Jos? Roberto Ru?z Garc?a Salas TG9AOR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Thu Sep 13 19:11:34 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:11:34 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] NODE 48455 not showing int the Database at stats.allstarlink.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9744814a-893e-c9d6-081b-efd9a9ede72d@bryanfields.net> On 9/13/18 2:07 PM, Jos? Roberto Ru?z Garc?a Salas TG9AOR wrote: > I wanted to integrate a private node to my current, working setup. > > I stopped the services, edited accordingly the rpt, extensions, and modules conf files. > > I can connect to node 48270, and I am shown under current logins under echolink. > > I ran iax2 show registry, output below. > > iax2 show registry > > Host????????????????? dnsmgr? Username??? Perceived???????????? Refresh? State > > 44.98.254.145:4569??? Y?????? 48455?????? 190.148.222.28:4569??????? 60? Registered This shows your registered, which means others can see and connect to you. Stats server is updated via a status program from asterisk/app_rpt. These updates are filtered by IP and your IP must match or your node will be unable to update it. Do you have the stats post program enabled in rpt.conf? It's totally optional to be part of the stats server and you need to enable it if you want updates there. I've check the stats server logs and I see nothing for 48455, but I am seeing 190.148.222.28 trying to send updates for 70421, which is invalid. What does your rpt.conf show? Do you have any sort of a passive HTTP proxy on your network? -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From rachel at olivero.us Fri Sep 14 04:06:19 2018 From: rachel at olivero.us (Rachel Olivero) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:06:19 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry Pi Kernel and Firmware Versions? Message-ID: <1536897979.2251985.1507680048.07E05D8F@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi all: Someone, and I won't name names, but let's call her Evil Rachel, was trying to solve a problem with rigctl and foolishly upgraded the kernel, kernel headers, and firmware on the Rpi 3 running her node. I think I fixed dahdi, but now I'm getting an error that chan_simpleusb cannot re- open the dsp device, and /dev/dsp does not exist. I'm hopeful downgrading, or some other solution you lovely folks may provide, will fix things. Or, is my best bet just to reimage the card? Thanks, and 73, Rachel AD9O -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnovey at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 04:32:55 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (cnovey) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:32:55 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry Pi Kernel and Firmware Versions? In-Reply-To: <1536897979.2251985.1507680048.07E05D8F@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1536897979.2251985.1507680048.07E05D8F@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <004d01d44be4$028cde00$07a69a00$@gmail.com> try: as root: dpkg-reconfigure asl-dahdi-linux-dkms reboot Should now be fixed. Check DAHDI is running by: lsmod | grep dahdi From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Rachel Olivero Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:06 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry Pi Kernel and Firmware Versions? Hi all: Someone, and I won't name names, but let's call her Evil Rachel, was trying to solve a problem with rigctl and foolishly upgraded the kernel, kernel headers, and firmware on the Rpi 3 running her node. I think I fixed dahdi, but now I'm getting an error that chan_simpleusb cannot re-open the dsp device, and /dev/dsp does not exist. I'm hopeful downgrading, or some other solution you lovely folks may provide, will fix things. Or, is my best bet just to reimage the card? Thanks, and 73, Rachel AD9O -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rachel at olivero.us Fri Sep 14 04:41:31 2018 From: rachel at olivero.us (Rachel Olivero) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:41:31 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry Pi Kernel and Firmware Versions? In-Reply-To: <004d01d44be4$028cde00$07a69a00$@gmail.com> References: <1536897979.2251985.1507680048.07E05D8F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <004d01d44be4$028cde00$07a69a00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1536900091.2259482.1507698264.7E50ABBA@webmail.messagingengine.com> lsmod | grep dadhi shows dahdi 237568 0 crc_ccitt 16384 1 dahdi So I assume that's fixed, but I'm still getting chan_simpleusb errors and not seeing /dev/dsp when I ls for it. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, at 23:32, cnovey wrote: > try: > as root: > dpkg-reconfigure asl-dahdi-linux-dkms > reboot > > Should now be fixed. Check DAHDI is running by: > lsmod | grep dahdi > > > *From:* App_rpt-users > *On Behalf Of *Rachel Olivero *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2018 > 9:06 PM *To:* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org *Subject:* [App_rpt- > users] Raspberry Pi Kernel and Firmware Versions?> > Hi all: > > Someone, and I won't name names, but let's call her Evil Rachel, was > trying to solve a problem with rigctl and foolishly upgraded the > kernel, kernel headers, and firmware on the Rpi 3 running her node. I > think I fixed dahdi, but now I'm getting an error that chan_simpleusb > cannot re-open the dsp device, and /dev/dsp does not exist. I'm > hopeful downgrading, or some other solution you lovely folks may > provide, will fix things. Or, is my best bet just to reimage the card?> > Thanks, and 73, > Rachel AD9O > _________________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address > and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button"> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message > to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cummingsj at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 13:05:11 2018 From: cummingsj at gmail.com (JJC) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 07:05:11 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry Pi Kernel and Firmware Versions? In-Reply-To: <1536900091.2259482.1507698264.7E50ABBA@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1536897979.2251985.1507680048.07E05D8F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <004d01d44be4$028cde00$07a69a00$@gmail.com> <1536900091.2259482.1507698264.7E50ABBA@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Rachel - OSS was deprecated about 10 years ago and removed (or marked broken) in recent kernels and as such things like /dev/dsp have been removed. Your only options are to emulate (my instructions below) /dev/dsp or go back to an old kernel that still has OSS built in. http://enhanced.github.io/2018/08/ASL_With_ALSA On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:41 PM Rachel Olivero wrote: > lsmod | grep dadhi shows > > dahdi 237568 0 > crc_ccitt 16384 1 dahdi > > So I assume that's fixed, but I'm still getting chan_simpleusb errors and > not seeing /dev/dsp when I ls for it. > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, at 23:32, cnovey wrote: > > try: > > as root: > > dpkg-reconfigure asl-dahdi-linux-dkms > > reboot > > > > Should now be fixed. Check DAHDI is running by: > > lsmod | grep dahdi > > > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users *On > Behalf Of *Rachel Olivero > *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:06 PM > *To:* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Raspberry Pi Kernel and Firmware Versions? > > > > Hi all: > > > > Someone, and I won't name names, but let's call her Evil Rachel, was > trying to solve a problem with rigctl and foolishly upgraded the kernel, > kernel headers, and firmware on the Rpi 3 running her node. I think I fixed > dahdi, but now I'm getting an error that chan_simpleusb cannot re-open the > dsp device, and /dev/dsp does not exist. I'm hopeful downgrading, or some > other solution you lovely folks may provide, will fix things. Or, is my > best bet just to reimage the card? > > > > Thanks, and 73, > > Rachel AD9O > *_______________________________________________* > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From Bryan at bryanfields.net Fri Sep 14 22:55:49 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:55:49 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node 48455 not showing in the Database at stats.allstarlink.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1ed12212-c131-f653-c65e-33a5ba41c09f@bryanfields.net> On 9/14/18 3:50 PM, Jos? Roberto Ru?z Garc?a Salas TG9AOR wrote: > Bryan, thanks for the response. I will change the private node 70421 to 1900. The fact this node is posting to the stats server means it's got the stats post config set in it's stanza. You need to disable this, but this sounds like you have a it missing from your other node 48455. If you want send me your rpt.conf file directly and I'll look at it. > By the way, what is the range of the private nodes?(1000-1999?) Yes, it can be anything starting with 1. > I do not have an http proxy server. I have port 4569 forwarded. This is the > armhf image, and worked out the gate from day 1, until I tried to add the > private node, yesterday. Since your private node is posting to the stats server, you need to disable this (and ensure it's not registering either in iax.conf), then enable it under your public node. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From tisawyer at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 16:51:58 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 09:51:58 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress Message-ID: We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. - The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. - It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. - There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. - There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same database. - A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. - All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. - Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding methods. - Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. - No more Flash. Yeah! Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup. PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buddy at brannan.name Sat Sep 15 17:36:01 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 12:36:01 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> Howdy Tim, Sounds like a good thing?. However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s Voiceover related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The login link doesn?t appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence. This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS. Also, down with flash! Vy 73, de KB5ELV > On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. > The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/ . > It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. > There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. > There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same database. > A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. > All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. > Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding methods. > Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. > No more Flash. Yeah! > Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) > > PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup. > > PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w0jrl1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 18:03:04 2018 From: w0jrl1 at gmail.com (Jeremy Lincicome) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 12:03:04 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> References: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> Message-ID: <40057163-b8b8-3bc5-9d9b-4209ecf19e37@gmail.com> Using the Orca screen reader on Linux with Firefox, the login page works okay. However, I can only find the entry fields with the tab key. They do not show up when using the arrow keys to navigate. Is this a pop-out form? Meaning: Is the form only displayed when the mouse pointer is directly over the form area after clicking the link? @Buddy: Did you try routing the mouse pointer to your Voiceover cursor, then clicking with your mouse/trackpad? 73, Jeremy W0JRL On 09/15/2018 11:36 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Howdy Tim, > > Sounds like a good thing?. > > However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s Voiceover > related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The login link > doesn?t appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to change, and > there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence. > > This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS. > > Also, down with flash! > > Vy 73, de KB5ELV > >> On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer > > wrote: >> >> We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually >> replace the original allstarlink.org with a >> modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going >> very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, >> here's what's on the new portal so far. >> >> * The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the >> database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. >> * It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, >> filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. >> * There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much >> friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. >> * There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are >> the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing >> the same database. >> * A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your >> callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which >> should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign >> change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use the >> new site for your request. >> * All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this >> site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. >> * Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding >> methods. >> * Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. >> * No more Flash. Yeah! >> >> Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like >> the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling >> errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like >> it :-) >> >> PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, >> jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup. >> >> PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well >> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ >> >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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URL: From buddy at brannan.name Sat Sep 15 18:07:01 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 13:07:01 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: <40057163-b8b8-3bc5-9d9b-4209ecf19e37@gmail.com> References: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> <40057163-b8b8-3bc5-9d9b-4209ecf19e37@gmail.com> Message-ID: <110DBA5C-85B7-4A0A-9B63-6FBE0A0155D8@brannan.name> Hey Jeremy, I didn?t, but I?ll try that next. > On Sep 15, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Jeremy Lincicome wrote: > > Using the Orca screen reader on Linux with Firefox, the login page works okay. However, I can only find the entry fields with the tab key. They do not show up when using the arrow keys to navigate. Is this a pop-out form? Meaning: Is the form only displayed when the mouse pointer is directly over the form area after clicking the link? > > @Buddy: Did you try routing the mouse pointer to your Voiceover cursor, then clicking with your mouse/trackpad? > > > > 73, > > Jeremy W0JRL > > > On 09/15/2018 11:36 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Howdy Tim, >> >> Sounds like a good thing?. >> >> However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s Voiceover related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The login link doesn?t appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence. >> >> This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS. >> >> Also, down with flash! >> >> Vy 73, de KB5ELV >> >>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: >>> >>> We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. >>> The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/ . >>> It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. >>> There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. >>> There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same database. >>> A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. >>> All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. >>> Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding methods. >>> Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. >>> No more Flash. Yeah! >>> Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) >>> >>> PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup. >>> >>> PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ >>> >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From buddy at brannan.name Sat Sep 15 18:09:23 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 13:09:23 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: <110DBA5C-85B7-4A0A-9B63-6FBE0A0155D8@brannan.name> References: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> <40057163-b8b8-3bc5-9d9b-4209ecf19e37@gmail.com> <110DBA5C-85B7-4A0A-9B63-6FBE0A0155D8@brannan.name> Message-ID: <7082FD03-BF53-47B1-981B-151D52FEFEFA@brannan.name> Hmm. Well, that worked, but it only worked because I had my password stored in the browser. The form didn?t really read (which is more a Voiceover issue, I understand that). Anyway, I?m in, that?s the main thing, but I, at least, would prefer a page with an explicit login form. > On Sep 15, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Hey Jeremy, > > I didn?t, but I?ll try that next. > >> On Sep 15, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Jeremy Lincicome > wrote: >> >> Using the Orca screen reader on Linux with Firefox, the login page works okay. However, I can only find the entry fields with the tab key. They do not show up when using the arrow keys to navigate. Is this a pop-out form? Meaning: Is the form only displayed when the mouse pointer is directly over the form area after clicking the link? >> >> @Buddy: Did you try routing the mouse pointer to your Voiceover cursor, then clicking with your mouse/trackpad? >> >> >> >> 73, >> >> Jeremy W0JRL >> >> >> On 09/15/2018 11:36 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Howdy Tim, >>> >>> Sounds like a good thing?. >>> >>> However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s Voiceover related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The login link doesn?t appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence. >>> >>> This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS. >>> >>> Also, down with flash! >>> >>> Vy 73, de KB5ELV >>> >>>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: >>>> >>>> We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. >>>> The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/ . >>>> It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. >>>> There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. >>>> There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same database. >>>> A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. >>>> All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. >>>> Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding methods. >>>> Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. >>>> No more Flash. Yeah! >>>> Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) >>>> >>>> PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup. >>>> >>>> PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tim WD6AWP >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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The page doesn?t seem to change, and there are > definitely no username/password fields in evidence. > > This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS. > > Also, down with flash! > > Vy 73, de KB5ELV > > On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually > replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better > looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been > progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. > > - The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the > database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. > - It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, > filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. > - There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much > friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. > - There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the > same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same > database. > - A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your > callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get > these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old > way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. > - All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site > for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. > - Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding > methods. > - Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. > - No more Flash. Yeah! > > Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new > nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, > unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) > > PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt > and other web developer geek alphabet soup. > > PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ > > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From cnovey at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 20:20:48 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (Clifford Novey) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 13:20:48 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fantastic! Thanks so much for your dedication and hard work. Truly a service to the community. New site is great. The portal does not give any admin/node config functionality on the following Android based browsers: Samsung Chrome Firefox Thanks, Clifford KK6QMS On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 9:52 AM Tim Sawyer wrote: > We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually > replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better > looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been > progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. > > - The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the > database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. > - It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, > filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. > - There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much > friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. > - There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the > same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same > database. > - A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your > callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get > these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old > way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. > - All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site > for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. > - Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding > methods. > - Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. > - No more Flash. Yeah! > > Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new > nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, > unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) > > PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt > and other web developer geek alphabet soup. > > PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ > > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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New site is great. The portal does not give any admin/node config functionality on the following Android based browsers:SamsungChromeFirefox? Thanks,?Clifford?KK6QMS? On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 9:52 AM Tim Sawyer wrote: We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far.The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the database. The new location is?https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages.?There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input.There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same database. ?A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request.?All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin.Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding methods.?Secure login Cookie with longer expiration.No more Flash. Yeah!Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.? PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well?https://wiki.allstarlink.org/? ? -- Tim WD6AWP _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buddy at brannan.name Sun Sep 16 01:30:58 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:30:58 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: References: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> Message-ID: <69B978AE-124F-4D58-94F7-F215C576C7DD@brannan.name> Hi Tim, Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows using NVDA and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS version of Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with Talkback. > On Sep 15, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > 'Login' on the menu changes to 'Logout ' upon successful login. One less dialog to dismiss that way and less verbose on purpose. > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:36 AM Buddy Brannan > wrote: > Howdy Tim, > > Sounds like a good thing?. > > However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s Voiceover related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The login link doesn?t appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence. > > This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS. > > Also, down with flash! > > Vy 73, de KB5ELV > >> On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: >> >> We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. >> The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/ . >> It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. >> There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. >> There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same database. >> A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. >> All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. >> Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding methods. >> Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. >> No more Flash. Yeah! >> Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) >> >> PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup. >> >> PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From rachel at olivero.us Sun Sep 16 03:37:58 2018 From: rachel at olivero.us (Rachel Olivero) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 22:37:58 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: <69B978AE-124F-4D58-94F7-F215C576C7DD@brannan.name> References: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> <69B978AE-124F-4D58-94F7-F215C576C7DD@brannan.name> Message-ID: <1537069078.1680658.1509513976.2B261E42@webmail.messagingengine.com> Tim, Buddy, and Jeremy, This is also an issue with NVDA and JAWS on Windows and Chrome. Tim, the present way the dialog behaves, a user of screen reading technology cannot find the input fields to enter a username and password. I'd have to dig into it a little more to ascertain exactly why, but the modal doesn't get focus or appear in the document tab order. Rachel AD9O On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 20:30, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is > successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive > technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows using > NVDA and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS > version of Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with Talkback.> >> On Sep 15, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >> 'Login' on the menu changes to 'Logout ' upon successful >> login. One less dialog to dismiss that way and less verbose on >> purpose.>> >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:36 AM Buddy Brannan >> wrote:>>> Howdy Tim, >>> >>> Sounds like a good thing?. >>> >>> However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s >>> Voiceover related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The >>> login link doesn?t appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to >>> change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in >>> evidence.>>> >>> This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on >>> Mac OS.>>> >>> Also, down with flash! >>> >>> Vy 73, de KB5ELV >>> >>>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer >>>> wrote:>>>> >>>> We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to >>>> eventually replace the original allstarlink.org[1] with a modern, >>>> secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very >>>> fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here's >>>> what's on the new portal so far.>>>> * The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the >>>> database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. >>>> * It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, >>>> filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. >>>> * There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much >>>> friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. >>>> * There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are >>>> the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing >>>> the same database. >>>> * A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your >>>> callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which >>>> should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign >>>> change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use >>>> the new site for your request. >>>> * All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this >>>> site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an >>>> admin. >>>> * Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding >>>> methods. >>>> * Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. >>>> * No more Flash. Yeah!>>>> Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like >>>> the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, >>>> spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know >>>> if you like it :-)>>>> >>>> PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, >>>> pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.>>>> >>>> PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well >>>> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/[2]>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tim WD6AWP >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >>>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button">>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a >>>> message to the list detailing the problem.>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address >>> and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button">>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. 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URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 03:57:29 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:57:29 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, no brewers have that yet. Been concentrating on the user ID stuff. There is still lots of work to do. On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 1:20 PM Clifford Novey wrote: > Fantastic! Thanks so much for your dedication and hard work. Truly a > service to the community. > > New site is great. The portal does not give any admin/node config > functionality on the following Android based browsers: > Samsung > Chrome > Firefox > > Thanks, > Clifford > KK6QMS > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 9:52 AM Tim Sawyer wrote: > >> We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually >> replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better >> looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been >> progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. >> >> - The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the >> database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. >> - It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, >> filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. >> - There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much >> friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. >> - There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are >> the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same >> database. >> - A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your >> callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get >> these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old >> way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. >> - All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site >> for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. >> - Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding >> methods. >> - Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. >> - No more Flash. Yeah! >> >> Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the >> new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, >> unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) >> >> PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt >> and other web developer geek alphabet soup. >> >> PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well >> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ >> >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:38 PM Rachel Olivero wrote: > Tim, Buddy, and Jeremy, > > This is also an issue with NVDA and JAWS on Windows and Chrome. > > Tim, the present way the dialog behaves, a user of screen reading > technology cannot find the input fields to enter a username and password. > I'd have to dig into it a little more to ascertain exactly why, but the > modal doesn't get focus or appear in the document tab order. > > Rachel AD9O > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 20:30, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is > successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive > technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows using NVDA > and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS version of > Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with Talkback. > > On Sep 15, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > 'Login' on the menu changes to 'Logout ' upon successful login. > One less dialog to dismiss that way and less verbose on purpose. > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:36 AM Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Howdy Tim, > > Sounds like a good thing?. > > However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s Voiceover > related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The login link doesn?t > appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to change, and there are > definitely no username/password fields in evidence. > > This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS. > > Also, down with flash! > > Vy 73, de KB5ELV > > On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually > replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better > looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been > progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. > > - The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the > database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. > - It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, > filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. > - There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much > friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. > - There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the > same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same > database. > - A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your > callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get > these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old > way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. > - All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site > for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. > - Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding > methods. > - Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. > - No more Flash. Yeah! > > Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new > nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, > unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) > > PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt > and other web developer geek alphabet soup. > > PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ > > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 03:59:51 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:59:51 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If I could only type, I'd be a real programmer :-) On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:57 PM Tim Sawyer wrote: > Yeah, no brewers have that yet. Been concentrating on the user ID stuff. > There is still lots of work to do. > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 1:20 PM Clifford Novey wrote: > >> Fantastic! Thanks so much for your dedication and hard work. Truly a >> service to the community. >> >> New site is great. The portal does not give any admin/node config >> functionality on the following Android based browsers: >> Samsung >> Chrome >> Firefox >> >> Thanks, >> Clifford >> KK6QMS >> >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 9:52 AM Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >>> We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually >>> replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better >>> looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been >>> progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. >>> >>> - The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the >>> database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. >>> - It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, >>> filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. >>> - There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much >>> friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. >>> - There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are >>> the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same >>> database. >>> - A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your >>> callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get >>> these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old >>> way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. >>> - All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site >>> for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. >>> - Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding >>> methods. >>> - Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. >>> - No more Flash. Yeah! >>> >>> Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the >>> new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, >>> unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) >>> >>> PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, >>> jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup. >>> >>> PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well >>> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. 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URL: From rachel at olivero.us Sun Sep 16 04:00:15 2018 From: rachel at olivero.us (Rachel Olivero) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 23:00:15 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: References: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> <69B978AE-124F-4D58-94F7-F215C576C7DD@brannan.name> <1537069078.1680658.1509513976.2B261E42@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1537070415.1685597.1509522328.45476C62@webmail.messagingengine.com> They can. I'll try to take a look tomorrow and pass on recommendations for a resolution. On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 22:59, Tim Sawyer wrote: > Copy that. Maybe screen readers can't read modals. Don't know. Post if > you find something. TNX.> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:38 PM Rachel Olivero > wrote:>> __ >> Tim, Buddy, and Jeremy, >> >> This is also an issue with NVDA and JAWS on Windows and Chrome. >> >> Tim, the present way the dialog behaves, a user of screen reading >> technology cannot find the input fields to enter a username and >> password. I'd have to dig into it a little more to ascertain >> exactly why, but the modal doesn't get focus or appear in the >> document tab order.>> >> Rachel AD9O >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 20:30, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is >>> successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive >>> technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows using >>> NVDA and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS >>> version of Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with >>> Talkback.>>> >>>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:>>>> >>>> 'Login' on the menu changes to 'Logout ' upon successful >>>> login. One less dialog to dismiss that way and less verbose on >>>> purpose.>>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:36 AM Buddy Brannan >>>> wrote:>>>>> Howdy Tim, >>>>> >>>>> Sounds like a good thing?. >>>>> >>>>> However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s >>>>> Voiceover related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The >>>>> login link doesn?t appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to >>>>> change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in >>>>> evidence.>>>>> >>>>> This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on >>>>> Mac OS.>>>>> >>>>> Also, down with flash! >>>>> >>>>> Vy 73, de KB5ELV >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer >>>>>> wrote:>>>>>> >>>>>> We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to >>>>>> eventually replace the original allstarlink.org[1] with a modern, >>>>>> secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very >>>>>> fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, >>>>>> here's what's on the new portal so far.>>>>>> * The site has moved to a faster server with better access to >>>>>> the database. The new location is >>>>>> https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. >>>>>> * It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has >>>>>> sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. >>>>>> * There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a >>>>>> much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. >>>>>> * There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password >>>>>> are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's >>>>>> accessing the same database. >>>>>> * A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your >>>>>> callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which >>>>>> should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign >>>>>> change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use >>>>>> the new site for your request. >>>>>> * All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this >>>>>> site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an >>>>>> admin. >>>>>> * Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' >>>>>> coding methods. >>>>>> * Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. >>>>>> * No more Flash. Yeah!>>>>>> Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really >>>>>> like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, >>>>>> spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know >>>>>> if you like it :-)>>>>>> >>>>>> PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, >>>>>> pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.>>>>>> >>>>>> PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well >>>>>> https://wiki.allstarlink.org/[2]>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tim WD6AWP >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users>>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email >>>>>> address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button">>>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via >>>>>> email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please >>>>>> send a message to the list detailing the problem.>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users>>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email >>>>> address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button">>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>>> confirmation. 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URL: From jason at mfamily.org Sun Sep 16 12:44:40 2018 From: jason at mfamily.org (Jason McCormick) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 12:44:40 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress In-Reply-To: References: <05A802ED-9F7E-4220-84FE-D0169632D488@brannan.name> <69B978AE-124F-4D58-94F7-F215C576C7DD@brannan.name> <1537069078.1680658.1509513976.2B261E42@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: For Bootstrap websites, make sure that all of your collapsible or otherwise hidden elements are properly tied to a default-visible element using the aria-* elements. You have to define a linkage so the screenreader or other assistive technology knows how to read into the element appearing. I am by absolutely no means an accessibility expert in HTML but you don?t have any aria controls on the login menu. You should try something like:
  • Login
  • And then in the modal login box change aria-labeledby to aria-labeledby=?login-box-link? to link the modal div back to the login link. You might need more adjustments to the modal code too. I?m used to aria labels for collapsible menus but never tried/tested with a pop-up modal. You might find the info at this link helpful: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.0/getting-started/accessibility/. My one site https://megalink.network for an Allstar hub we?re working towards launching to the broader community uses Bootstrap 4 and was tested with someone using assistive technology. It seemed to work in the one person?s testing who did it for me. If others have problems with navigating with a screenreader, I would appreciate a heads up *off-list* so I can fix it. Jason N8JDM From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 11:59 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] New AllStar Portal - A work in Progress Copy that. Maybe screen readers can't read modals. Don't know. Post if you find something. TNX. On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:38 PM Rachel Olivero > wrote: Tim, Buddy, and Jeremy, This is also an issue with NVDA and JAWS on Windows and Chrome. Tim, the present way the dialog behaves, a user of screen reading technology cannot find the input fields to enter a username and password. I'd have to dig into it a little more to ascertain exactly why, but the modal doesn't get focus or appear in the document tab order. Rachel AD9O On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 20:30, Buddy Brannan wrote: Hi Tim, Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows using NVDA and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS version of Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with Talkback. On Sep 15, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: 'Login' on the menu changes to 'Logout ' upon successful login. One less dialog to dismiss that way and less verbose on purpose. On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:36 AM Buddy Brannan > wrote: Howdy Tim, Sounds like a good thing?. However, I seem to have an issue. I?m not sure whether it?s Voiceover related, browser related, or ?it be broke? related. The login link doesn?t appear to do anything. The page doesn?t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence. This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS. Also, down with flash! Vy 73, de KB5ELV On Sep 15, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Tim Sawyer > wrote: We've been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here's what's on the new portal so far. * The site has moved to a faster server with better access to the database. The new location is https://web-tpa.allstarlink.org/. * It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages. * There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input. * There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it's accessing the same database. * A new feature the original site doesn't have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you'll probably be asked to use the new site for your request. * All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won't see these unless you are an admin. * Works much better on mobile devices using 'mobile first' coding methods. * Secure login Cookie with longer expiration. * No more Flash. Yeah! Please use this new site when you can. We think you'll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it :-) PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup. PPS. Don't forget we have a new WiKi as well https://wiki.allstarlink.org/ -- Tim WD6AWP _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 21:11:15 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:11:15 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics Message-ID: There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 16 21:43:10 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 17:43:10 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <73be7af1-c92b-59f6-28d3-178f3c4d31bf@midnighteng.com> Tim, Speaking entirely for myself and by myself, I have been part of many different 'open source' projects over time. They loose my participation when I see someone trying to carve a niche out for themselves. I'm not interested in contributing to anyone's profitability or fame. It is the whole point. Folks contribute what they can and everyone benefits ! This group has nothing to worry about except that I may not go away... LOL. Been here 'bout 10 years I think. Been with open source Asterisk even longer, but contribute nothing to the outside of my own personal use gizmo's. But folks will believe what they want regardless of how we speak of it. I rather not speak against anything, but Pro/for this-or-that. And I am for open source. We have that. Just wanted to inject some perspective. It has been a successful project and continues to grow. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/16/2018 5:11 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in > numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up > to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August > 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not > spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes > attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on > this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must > be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this > time. > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason > AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the > country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially > taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as > possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and > co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board > members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go > perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only > attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about > anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we > have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up > some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say > enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are > welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of > others who have nothing but good intentions. > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From n3fe at repeater.net Sun Sep 16 21:47:47 2018 From: n3fe at repeater.net (Corey Dean) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 17:47:47 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tim, As many of you know I have moved over into the dmr world and do still have a few allstar nodes up and running. One is 8-10 years old, hasn?t had internet, and have never touched asterisk afterwards. One of the things I did not miss was the hamvoip team. I got into it with them a couple of times over codecs and proved my testing with a service monitor. To them it still wasn?t true and I just got tired of it. It doesn?t look like much has changed. Of course dmr has its own politics as well... If it has gone on this long I doubt you are ever going to see things change because they weren?t given the keys to the castle that they wanted so much... Corey. N3FE On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:11 PM Tim Sawyer wrote: > > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in > numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up > to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August > 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not > spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes > attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on > this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must > be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this > time. > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason > AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around > the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially > taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as > possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and > co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board > members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go > perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only > attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about > anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we > have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up > some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say > enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are > welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of > others who have nothing but good intentions. > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 00:33:18 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 17:33:18 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded me of how I had known about them. They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides the point. The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward the asterisk group. I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out of em. Which I took personal because Im one of them. Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? Harold K7ILO Las Vegas, NV. Node 27863 From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerutley at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 00:38:30 2018 From: jerutley at gmail.com (Jeremy Utley) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:38:30 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Re: Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6cb8c099-2256-34d4-35f9-32aac451f426@gmail.com> Oops, Meant to send this directly to the list.? Discussion mailing lists *really* should be set up so that replies go to the list, not to the sender :) Jeremy, NQ0M -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Politics Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:36:13 -0500 From: Jeremy Utley To: Tim Sawyer Unfornately, the only solution to the current problems is going to be someone who can show they have copyright in the existing codebase, and deep enough pockets to fund a lawsuit.? Without that, all that can be done is to bring social pressure - and unfortunately, the biggest majority of people that use his software don't really understand open source. I myself started off with his release, but once I realized he refused to actually release his code, I immediately started to move things back to DIAL.? My old repeater (now off-air) that ran AllStar had to use a VPN - I was stuck behind a *Triple-NAT* so there was absolutely no way I could get a port forwarded, and OpenVPN allowed me to get around that.? But the OpenVPN package never started on boot properly in his installation, nor did the SNMP daemon I used for monitoring the performance of the system.? I also had to have another "backdoor" means (a router with VPN and SSH capability) to get into the node to start the VPN and SNMP daemons after a power failure.? DIAL of course never had this problem, but it exhibited a different problem - there was a slight delay in the transmitted audio, so when I would transmit on the repeater, I would hear about a half-second of my transmission.? It wasn't annoying enough to go back, but I'd have loved to have gotten ahold of his source code, and compiled it under Debian to see if that solved it. Honestly, if I had my own choice, we'd still be running under CentOS - I much prefer that to Debian, but I'm OK with Debian/Raspbian, and can't stand Arch at all.? I'm honestly tempted to try to compile against Centos, it's just not worth the time it would take to build on ARM.? My biggest concern right now is in the fact that the underlying Asterisk code being used is so old (it's lke 1.4 still, is it not?).? But I'm sure porting apt_rpt to newer versions isn't an easy thing - I just don't like running end-of-life code.? But I have all my setups majorly firewalled, and usually even running behind a VPN, so that helps to ease the worry. Jeremy, NQ0M On 9/16/18 4:11 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP > principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding > what AllStarLink is up to.?Before you read the rest of this email > please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding > not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind > the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to > speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, > some false statements must be publicly corrected.?I will address only > this particular post at this time. > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason > AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers > around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was > unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned > as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time > friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past > AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go > perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only > attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's > about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning > process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine > friend used to say. > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build > up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I > say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you > are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking > badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visithttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ke6pcv at cal-net.org Mon Sep 17 01:51:37 2018 From: ke6pcv at cal-net.org (Marshall Oldham) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 18:51:37 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b501d44e28$f8db7fa0$ea927ee0$@org> Tim, First off, I would like to thank you for all the work and time that you have donated to the AllstarLink.org ham community in general. I know that your heart is in the right place and that you only want to see what is best for the Allstarlink.org ham community while at the same time supporting what Jim Dixons vision was for Allstarlink. I have been silently watching for more than a year now with regards to the two individuals behind HamVOIP and the mis-information they have been spreading on their arm_allstar moderated email list, their HamVOIP website and in direct private emails that they send to other hams who have asked technical questions on the app_rpt email list and are new to Allstarlink. It saddens me to see HamVOIP trying and break apart and fracture the AllstarLink.org community with mis-information. >From my observation I can honestly say that all the folks involved with AllstarLink.org are truly trying to keep Allstarlink going and supporting Jim Dixons vision. Tim, I appreciate you speaking up and telling the truth about what is actually happening behind the scenes so that community will know the truth. I knew Jim Dixon, WB6NIL very well and for many years, one of my node numbers is 2065. We were close friends and spoke on the phone or radio once a week. I would go along with Jim to various repeater sites here is southern California to help him install and maintain his AllstarLink repeaters on various hilltops. Along with knowing Jim very well, I have also been friends with Steve Rodgers, WA6ZFT. Steve Rodgers was also one of Jim Dixons close friends and a substantial contributor the app_rpt software and AllstarLink projects. As seen in the 4th line of text posted in the header of the source code for app_rpt which reads. /* * Asterisk -- An open source telephony toolkit. * * Copyright (C) 2002-2014, Jim Dixon, WB6NIL * * Jim Dixon, WB6NIL * Serious contributions by Steve RoDgers, WA6ZFT * * See http://www.asterisk.org for more information about * the Asterisk project. Please do not directly contact * any of the maintainers of this project for assistance; * the project provides a web site, mailing lists and IRC * channels for your use. * * This program is free software, distributed under the terms of * the GNU General Public License Version 2. See the LICENSE file * at the top of the source tree. */ I can honestly say that it was Jims wish and vision for Allstarlink software app_rpt to always be open source for the betterment of the ham community. The HamVOIP developers have taken Jims work of the App_rpt software and made improvements to the code for arm based systems, the BIG problem is that they will not keep in the spirit of ham radio, Allstarklink, or Jim Dixons WB6NIL wishes and share their source code so that the rest of the ham community can benefit. They keep making silly excuses. Today I could no longer sit by and watch the mis-information being spread by HamVOIP, I sent Steve Rodgers, WA6ZFT and email asking him to re-affirm who was to be in-charge of AllstarLink. Here is his response to my email which is included. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rodgers [mailto:steve at rodgers619.com] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:48 AM To: Marshall Oldham Cc: 'Tim Sawyer' Subject: Re: AllstarLink Community Hi Marshall, I really don't want to thrust myself into this, as I have no time for it. However here is my personal statement... HamVOIP was NEVER given control of Allstarlink.org. In fact Jim Dixon ran into conflict from Mr. Crompton from the get-go. I assisted with the transferring of Allstarlink to Steve Zingman after Jim Dixon passed away. Steve Zingman and his group were the intended management team from that point in time forward. Thanks, Steve WA6ZFT On 09/16/2018 10:26 AM, Marshall Oldham wrote: > Steve, > > We really need to talk when you have sometime. > > These HamVOIP folks (David McGough, KB4FXC, and Doug Crompton, WA3DSP) are really twisting the truth and what Jim's > wishes were for the overall future of AllstarLink Software and the ham community. > > They have closed Allstar_arm, email list that they moderate so that there users never get the truth. They > continue to bash the official Allstarlink folks on their own list. > > Read the second and third paragraphs of their webpage. > > https://hamvoip.org/ > > > They (HamVOIP) have been publicly claiming that the folks that have been running Allstarlink since Jim's passing had no right. > And that the folks that took over really didn't have the understanding or knowledge of just how to run Allstarlink. > Which is not true. You know the folks that you asked to step in and help continue the future or Allstarlink. I > have been helping when I can and think that they are all working hard and doing a good job of seeing out Jim's vision > for the future of Allstarlink. > > They (HamVOIP) are also claiming that one individual took over control and moved the servers all on his own. Which is > not true. There are many folks involved working hard to make things better. > > They (HamVOIP) are trying to make the general ham community think that there is only one person in control of servers > and started a coup. Which is not true. > > I believe (HamVOIP) is trying to mislead and fracture the Allstarlink community so that they can have control. This will > be a sad if it happens. > > As one of Jim's closest friends and a contributor of app_rpt software, I think we need to have you make a public > statement of Jim's vision of Allstarlink software being open source to the ham community. > > The HamVOIP folks have stolen Jim's work and not released the source code, and have even tried to claim that Jim was okay > with them not releasing the source code. > > Please read about this on the following link. > > https://old.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/9ff5pw/state_of_affairs_for_allstarlink_hamvoip_the_gpl/ > > Please help us out with this situation. > > Marshall - ke6pcv > I am publicly asking the developers of HamVOIP group to stop spreading mis-information or posting information that they really do not know about. I am publicly asking the developers of HamVOIP group to post and share their source code for the betterment of the ham community. Let's all work together instead of against each other. 73 Marshall - ke6pcv From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buddy at brannan.name Mon Sep 17 05:00:37 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 00:00:37 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Let?s not forget, either, that no source code is yet in evidence. Sure, they?re welcome to close source their own drivers, like the fabled Iopipe sound module that?s in the works, but what about mods to app_rpt.c, chan_echolink.c, and others? I?m fairly certain that the GPL is pretty clear in this regard. > On Sep 16, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Corey Dean wrote: > > Tim, > > As many of you know I have moved over into the dmr world and do still have a few allstar nodes up and running. One is 8-10 years old, hasn?t had internet, and have never touched asterisk afterwards. One of the things I did not miss was the hamvoip team. I got into it with them a couple of times over codecs and proved my testing with a service monitor. To them it still wasn?t true and I just got tired of it. It doesn?t look like much has changed. Of course dmr has its own politics as well... > > If it has gone on this long I doubt you are ever going to see things change because they weren?t given the keys to the castle that they wanted so much... > > Corey. N3FE > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:11 PM Tim Sawyer > wrote: > > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From buddy at brannan.name Mon Sep 17 05:03:19 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 00:03:19 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but still. As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a microcosm of society in general; were it not so. > On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, wrote: > > I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded me of how I had known about them. > They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides the point. > The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward the asterisk group. > I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. > > It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. > It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out of em. > Which I took personal because Im one of them. > > Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? > > Harold > K7ILO > Las Vegas, NV. > Node 27863 > > From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics > > > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buddy at brannan.name Mon Sep 17 05:14:17 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 00:14:17 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: <00b501d44e28$f8db7fa0$ea927ee0$@org> References: <00b501d44e28$f8db7fa0$ea927ee0$@org> Message-ID: Hi Marshall, I?d only had the pleasure of chatting with the duuuuuuuuuuude a couple of times. Each time was an absolute pleasure, Jim was always, always helpful, never acted like I was a drain on his time, and did I mention ws always very helpful? Oh sure. Snarky, especially on the email reflector, but always helpful, and I always took any remarks in a more lighthearted spirit of delivery. And, with all that, Jim was, as best I can recall, a fierce, very fierce advocate of openness. Not just open source, not just free software, but a fully open network. I remember in at least one email that he would have it that any node connected to the public All Star Link network would either use standard codes for connections to other nodes, or publish the connect codes, so that any visitor could access any node, make use of it, and connect back home let?s say, or connect to other friends while away from home and what have you. He was also, again from my recollection, a proponent of the ability to interconnect networks, but if you didn?t want that (reference IRLP), he had respect for their wishes. Essentially, do what you like, but please share with the rest of the class seemed to be his guiding philosophy, certainly with this community. Matter of fact, he wanted more participation, more coders, more people to make interesting and cool things happen and, again, share with the rest of the class. I, for one, am happy to see ASL Inc. carry on this vision. It?s a dirty rotten crying shame that other groups in our community do not have the same vision for what has been built. Vy 73, de KB5ELV > On Sep 16, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: > > Tim, > > First off, I would like to thank you for all the work and time that you have donated to the AllstarLink.org ham community in general. > > I know that your heart is in the right place and that you only want to see what is best for the Allstarlink.org ham community while at the same time supporting what Jim Dixons vision was for Allstarlink. > > I have been silently watching for more than a year now with regards to the two individuals behind HamVOIP and the mis-information they have been spreading on their arm_allstar moderated email list, their HamVOIP website and in direct private emails that they send to other hams who have asked technical questions on the app_rpt email list and are new to Allstarlink. > > It saddens me to see HamVOIP trying and break apart and fracture the AllstarLink.org community with mis-information. > > From my observation I can honestly say that all the folks involved with AllstarLink.org are truly trying to keep Allstarlink going and supporting Jim Dixons vision. > > Tim, I appreciate you speaking up and telling the truth about what is actually happening behind the scenes so that community will know the truth. > > I knew Jim Dixon, WB6NIL very well and for many years, one of my node numbers is 2065. > We were close friends and spoke on the phone or radio once a week. I would go along with Jim to various repeater sites here is southern California to help him install and maintain his AllstarLink repeaters on various hilltops. Along with knowing Jim very well, I have also been friends with Steve Rodgers, WA6ZFT. Steve Rodgers was also one of Jim Dixons close friends and a substantial contributor the app_rpt software and AllstarLink projects. > > As seen in the 4th line of text posted in the header of the source code for app_rpt which reads. > > /* > * Asterisk -- An open source telephony toolkit. > * > * Copyright (C) 2002-2014 , Jim Dixon, WB6NIL > * > * Jim Dixon, WB6NIL > > * Serious contributions by Steve RoDgers, WA6ZFT > > * > * See http://www.asterisk.org for more information about > * the Asterisk project. Please do not directly contact > * any of the maintainers of this project for assistance; > * the project provides a web site, mailing lists and IRC > * channels for your use. > * > * This program is free software, distributed under the terms of > * the GNU General Public License Version 2. See the LICENSE file > * at the top of the source tree. > */ > > > I can honestly say that it was Jims wish and vision for Allstarlink software app_rpt to always be open source for the betterment of the ham community. > > The HamVOIP developers have taken Jims work of the App_rpt software and made improvements to the code for arm based systems, the BIG problem is that they will not keep in the spirit of ham radio, Allstarklink, or Jim Dixons WB6NIL wishes and share their source code so that the rest of the ham community can benefit. They keep making silly excuses. > > Today I could no longer sit by and watch the mis-information being spread by HamVOIP, I sent Steve Rodgers, WA6ZFT and email asking him to re-affirm who was to be in-charge of AllstarLink. > > Here is his response to my email which is included. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Rodgers [mailto:steve at rodgers619.com ] > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:48 AM > To: Marshall Oldham > Cc: 'Tim Sawyer' > Subject: Re: AllstarLink Community > > Hi Marshall, > > I really don't want to thrust myself into this, as I have no time for it. However here is my personal statement... > > > HamVOIP was NEVER given control of Allstarlink.org . In fact Jim Dixon ran into conflict from Mr. Crompton from the get-go. I assisted with the transferring of Allstarlink to Steve Zingman after Jim Dixon passed away. Steve Zingman and > his group were the intended management team from that point in time forward. > > > Thanks, > > Steve > WA6ZFT > > > > On 09/16/2018 10:26 AM, Marshall Oldham wrote: > > Steve, > > > > We really need to talk when you have sometime. > > > > These HamVOIP folks (David McGough, KB4FXC, and Doug Crompton, WA3DSP) are really twisting the truth and what Jim's > > wishes were for the overall future of AllstarLink Software and the ham community. > > > > They have closed Allstar_arm, email list that they moderate so that there users never get the truth. They > > continue to bash the official Allstarlink folks on their own list. > > > > Read the second and third paragraphs of their webpage. > > > > https://hamvoip.org/ > > > > > > They (HamVOIP) have been publicly claiming that the folks that have been running Allstarlink since Jim's passing had no right. > > And that the folks that took over really didn't have the understanding or knowledge of just how to run Allstarlink. > > Which is not true. You know the folks that you asked to step in and help continue the future or Allstarlink. I > > have been helping when I can and think that they are all working hard and doing a good job of seeing out Jim's vision > > for the future of Allstarlink. > > > > They (HamVOIP) are also claiming that one individual took over control and moved the servers all on his own. Which is > > not true. There are many folks involved working hard to make things better. > > > > They (HamVOIP) are trying to make the general ham community think that there is only one person in control of servers > > and started a coup. Which is not true. > > > > I believe (HamVOIP) is trying to mislead and fracture the Allstarlink community so that they can have control. This will > > be a sad if it happens. > > > > As one of Jim's closest friends and a contributor of app_rpt software, I think we need to have you make a public > > statement of Jim's vision of Allstarlink software being open source to the ham community. > > > > The HamVOIP folks have stolen Jim's work and not released the source code, and have even tried to claim that Jim was okay > > with them not releasing the source code. > > > > Please read about this on the following link. > > > > https://old.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/9ff5pw/state_of_affairs_for_allstarlink_hamvoip_the_gpl/ > > > > Please help us out with this situation. > > > > Marshall - ke6pcv > > > > > I am publicly asking the developers of HamVOIP group to stop spreading mis-information or posting information that they really do not know about. > > I am publicly asking the developers of HamVOIP group to post and share their source code for the betterment of the ham community. > > Let's all work together instead of against each other. > > 73 > > Marshall - ke6pcv > > > > From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org ] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics > > > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org . > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bdboyle at bdboyle.com Mon Sep 17 16:08:25 2018 From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com (Bryan D. Boyle) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 12:08:25 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: <00b501d44e28$f8db7fa0$ea927ee0$@org> Message-ID: Ditto here. Never had the pleasure of a F2F, but worked with him on the original Ranger stuff (still have my node up, and still works) as well as the filing that the ARRL had a fit over (their comment: ?what gives you the right to suggest something like this without OUR involvement...? and some network security questions in IAX that got quietly coded into the release back in ?14 or so. His view was in the best spirit of ?you can achieve the impossible if you don?t worry about who gets the credit? and open and respectful dialogue and cooperation. As an old AT&T-er, we connected on that level, sharing, all too infrequently, insights into the teleco transmission space; I like to think his keen mind gave us an architecture and way forward that, if we continue on the open collaboration path, and put ego aside, benefits ALL of us. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. > On Sep 17, 2018, at 01:14, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Hi Marshall, > > I?d only had the pleasure of chatting with the duuuuuuuuuuude a couple of times. Each time was an absolute pleasure, Jim was always, always helpful, never acted like I was a drain on his time, and did I mention ws always very helpful? Oh sure. Snarky, especially on the email reflector, but always helpful, and I always took any remarks in a more lighthearted spirit of delivery. And, with all that, Jim was, as best I can recall, a fierce, very fierce advocate of openness. Not just open source, not just free software, but a fully open network. I remember in at least one email that he would have it that any node connected to the public All Star Link network would either use standard codes for connections to other nodes, or publish the connect codes, so that any visitor could access any node, make use of it, and connect back home let?s say, or connect to other friends while away from home and what have you. He was also, again from my recollection, a proponent of the ability to interconnect networks, but if you didn?t want that (reference IRLP), he had respect for their wishes. Essentially, do what you like, but please share with the rest of the class seemed to be his guiding philosophy, certainly with this community. Matter of fact, he wanted more participation, more coders, more people to make interesting and cool things happen and, again, share with the rest of the class. I, for one, am happy to see ASL Inc. carry on this vision. It?s a dirty rotten crying shame that other groups in our community do not have the same vision for what has been built. > > Vy 73, de KB5ELV > >> On Sep 16, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Marshall Oldham wrote: >> >> Tim, >> >> First off, I would like to thank you for all the work and time that you have donated to the AllstarLink.org ham community in general. >> >> I know that your heart is in the right place and that you only want to see what is best for the Allstarlink.org ham community while at the same time supporting what Jim Dixons vision was for Allstarlink. >> >> I have been silently watching for more than a year now with regards to the two individuals behind HamVOIP and the mis-information they have been spreading on their arm_allstar moderated email list, their HamVOIP website and in direct private emails that they send to other hams who have asked technical questions on the app_rpt email list and are new to Allstarlink. >> >> It saddens me to see HamVOIP trying and break apart and fracture the AllstarLink.orgcommunity with mis-information. >> >> From my observation I can honestly say that all the folks involved with AllstarLink.org are truly trying to keep Allstarlink going and supporting Jim Dixons vision. >> >> Tim, I appreciate you speaking up and telling the truth about what is actually happening behind the scenes so that community will know the truth. >> >> I knew Jim Dixon, WB6NIL very well and for many years, one of my node numbers is 2065. >> We were close friends and spoke on the phone or radio once a week. I would go along with Jim to various repeater sites here is southern California to help him install and maintain his AllstarLink repeaters on various hilltops. Along with knowing Jim very well, I have also been friends with Steve Rodgers, WA6ZFT. Steve Rodgers was also one of Jim Dixons close friends and a substantial contributor the app_rpt software and AllstarLink projects. >> >> As seen in the 4th line of text posted in the header of the source code for app_rpt which reads. >> >> /* >> * Asterisk -- An open source telephony toolkit. >> * >> * Copyright (C) 2002-2014, Jim Dixon, WB6NIL >> * >> * Jim Dixon, WB6NIL >> * Serious contributions by Steve RoDgers, WA6ZFT >> * >> * See http://www.asterisk.org for more information about >> * the Asterisk project. Please do not directly contact >> * any of the maintainers of this project for assistance; >> * the project provides a web site, mailing lists and IRC >> * channels for your use. >> * >> * This program is free software, distributed under the terms of >> * the GNU General Public License Version 2. See the LICENSE file >> * at the top of the source tree. >> */ >> >> >> I can honestly say that it was Jims wish and vision for Allstarlink software app_rpt to always be open source for the betterment of the ham community. >> >> The HamVOIP developers have taken Jims work of the App_rpt software and made improvements to the code for arm based systems, the BIG problem is that they will not keep in the spirit of ham radio, Allstarklink, or Jim Dixons WB6NIL wishes and share their source code so that the rest of the ham community can benefit. They keep making silly excuses. >> >> Today I could no longer sit by and watch the mis-information being spread by HamVOIP, I sent Steve Rodgers, WA6ZFT and email asking him to re-affirm who was to be in-charge of AllstarLink. >> >> Here is his response to my email which is included. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steve Rodgers [mailto:steve at rodgers619.com] >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:48 AM >> To: Marshall Oldham >> Cc: 'Tim Sawyer' >> Subject: Re: AllstarLink Community >> >> Hi Marshall, >> >> I really don't want to thrust myself into this, as I have no time for it. However here is my personal statement... >> >> >> HamVOIP was NEVER given control of Allstarlink.org. In fact Jim Dixon ran into conflict from Mr. Crompton from the get-go. I assisted with the transferring of Allstarlink to Steve Zingman after Jim Dixon passed away. Steve Zingman and >> his group were the intended management team from that point in time forward. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve >> WA6ZFT >> >> >> >> On 09/16/2018 10:26 AM, Marshall Oldham wrote: >> > Steve, >> > >> > We really need to talk when you have sometime. >> > >> > These HamVOIP folks (David McGough, KB4FXC, and Doug Crompton, WA3DSP) are really twisting the truth and what Jim's >> > wishes were for the overall future of AllstarLink Software and the ham community. >> > >> > They have closed Allstar_arm, email list that they moderate so that there users never get the truth. They >> > continue to bash the official Allstarlink folks on their own list. >> > >> > Read the second and third paragraphs of their webpage. >> > >> > https://hamvoip.org/ >> > >> > >> > They (HamVOIP) have been publicly claiming that the folks that have been running Allstarlink since Jim's passing had no right. >> > And that the folks that took over really didn't have the understanding or knowledge of just how to run Allstarlink. >> > Which is not true. You know the folks that you asked to step in and help continue the future or Allstarlink. I >> > have been helping when I can and think that they are all working hard and doing a good job of seeing out Jim's vision >> > for the future of Allstarlink. >> > >> > They (HamVOIP) are also claiming that one individual took over control and moved the servers all on his own. Which is >> > not true. There are many folks involved working hard to make things better. >> > >> > They (HamVOIP) are trying to make the general ham community think that there is only one person in control of servers >> > and started a coup. Which is not true. >> > >> > I believe (HamVOIP) is trying to mislead and fracture the Allstarlink community so that they can have control. This will >> > be a sad if it happens. >> > >> > As one of Jim's closest friends and a contributor of app_rpt software, I think we need to have you make a public >> > statement of Jim's vision of Allstarlink software being open source to the ham community. >> > >> > The HamVOIP folks have stolen Jim's work and not released the source code, and have even tried to claim that Jim was okay >> > with them not releasing the source code. >> > >> > Please read about this on the following link. >> > >> > https://old.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/9ff5pw/state_of_affairs_for_allstarlink_hamvoip_the_gpl/ >> > >> > Please help us out with this situation. >> > >> > Marshall - ke6pcv >> > >> >> >> I am publicly asking the developers of HamVOIP group to stop spreading mis-information or posting information that they really do not know about. >> >> I am publicly asking the developers of HamVOIP group to post and share their source code for the betterment of the ham community. >> >> Let's all work together instead of against each other. >> >> 73 >> >> Marshall - ke6pcv >> >> >> >> From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM >> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics >> >> >> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. >> >> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. >> >> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. >> >> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. >> >> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. >> >> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. >> >> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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John Griffith, N7OKN From mm at midnighteng.com Mon Sep 17 17:28:01 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:28:01 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] PC Version In-Reply-To: <005d01d44eab$68d0b730$3a722590$@gmail.com> References: <005d01d44eab$68d0b730$3a722590$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <33edf402-5adf-86d5-7540-324539fa2e45@midnighteng.com> http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Intel-AMD/Stretch/ A Install ISO has been available for a long time. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/17/2018 1:25 PM, John Griffith wrote: > > Greetings! > > Are we close to having an image for PC's yet? > > John Griffith, N7OKN > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From jcarl.griffith at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 20:15:10 2018 From: jcarl.griffith at gmail.com (John Griffith) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:15:10 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] PC Version In-Reply-To: <33edf402-5adf-86d5-7540-324539fa2e45@midnighteng.com> References: <005d01d44eab$68d0b730$3a722590$@gmail.com> <33edf402-5adf-86d5-7540-324539fa2e45@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <002301d44ec3$23af5770$6b0e0650$@gmail.com> I'm so sorry, I posted to the wrong board. I meant to direct this to HamVoip. My apologies. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:28 AM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] PC Version http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Intel-AMD/Stretch/ A Install ISO has been available for a long time. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/17/2018 1:25 PM, John Griffith wrote: > > Greetings! > > Are we close to having an image for PC's yet? > > John Griffith, N7OKN > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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From loren at lorentedford.com Mon Sep 17 20:17:00 2018 From: loren at lorentedford.com (Loren Tedford) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 15:17:00 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] PC Version In-Reply-To: <005d01d44eab$68d0b730$3a722590$@gmail.com> References: <005d01d44eab$68d0b730$3a722590$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Personally after experiencing 100% success with the apt-get repo i use it now instead of the iso installation. Here are the commands i use for installation on Debian 9 installation. Allstarlink installation instructions *cd /tmp** **wget https://github.com/AllStarLink/Asterisk/raw/develop/allstar/repository/install-repository** **chmod +x install-repository** **./install-repository** ** **apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` -y** ** **apt-get update** **apt-get install allstarlink -y* You can find this information here. https://wiki.allstarlink.org/wiki/ASL_FAQ I also install a few other things like this.. *apt-get update** **apt-get upgrade** **apt-get install ufw htop fail2ban** ** **ufw allow ssh** **ufw allow 4569/udp? (Asterisk IAX Port)** **ufw allow 5038/tcp? (Asterisk Web hook Control Port Only open this up if you have to prefer ip allow only.)** **ufw allow 5198/udp? (Echolink UDP Port)** **ufw allow 5199/udp? (ECholink UDP Port)** **ufw allow 5200/tcp? (Echolink TCP Port)* *ufw allow from 10.10.10.223* *ufw deny from 10.10.10.224* htop is a very useful command line tool to allow ease of killing tasks if needed. After installation just type htop in terminal. On 9/17/2018 12:25 PM, John Griffith wrote: > Greetings! > > Are we close to having an image for PC's yet? > > John Griffith, N7OKN > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From loren at lorentedford.com Mon Sep 17 20:18:44 2018 From: loren at lorentedford.com (Loren Tedford) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 15:18:44 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] PC Version In-Reply-To: <002301d44ec3$23af5770$6b0e0650$@gmail.com> References: <005d01d44eab$68d0b730$3a722590$@gmail.com> <33edf402-5adf-86d5-7540-324539fa2e45@midnighteng.com> <002301d44ec3$23af5770$6b0e0650$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44445e2f-b501-7a6f-6afd-24d6756803c4@lorentedford.com> lol good luck my experience with ham voip in pc builds have been horrible.. I was instructed to buy raspberry pi's lol....... On 9/17/2018 3:15 PM, John Griffith wrote: > I'm so sorry, I posted to the wrong board. I meant to direct this to > HamVoip. > My apologies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: App_rpt-users On Behalf > Of Mike > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:28 AM > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] PC Version > > http://dvswitch.org/files/ASL_Images/Intel-AMD/Stretch/ > > A Install ISO has been available for a long time. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/17/2018 1:25 PM, John Griffith wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> Are we close to having an image for PC's yet? >> >> John Griffith, N7OKN >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From wolthuis at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 20:46:01 2018 From: wolthuis at gmail.com (Michael Wolthuis) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:46:01 +0000 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Server uptime, distributed resources, etc. Message-ID: Good afternoon, Many of you were aware of many recent updates to the server infrastructure that runs the Allstar network as maintained by the core Allstar team. Some of these updates did cause some issues around NAT that we do NOT need to relive. I am one of the people who donates servers, bandwidth and storage space at my top tier datacenters. My company is gracious enough to allow me research space that I have donated to the project directly to Jim and beyond. Those recent updates worked really hard to make sure we had a distributed architecture! We do NOT rely on a single location, a single datacenter, a single physical server. The ORD (Chicago, IL) location of Allstar that the core team uses is actually made up of over 32 blade servers and the load even with-in the datacenter is distributed. I just thought, given the recent weather issues across the US it would be important to note that this painful work (done by some very tired out people) was done for your benefit! The network as designed using the core and original Allstar network systems is now redundant and distributed. There is a core team of us who are Network Engineers and Data Center Engineers on the original team (going back to when Jim was alive) and we are doing this right! To that point, as the goal is to be open and forth-right with information ? please feel free to see the Public link to our network statistics and information: https://grafana.allstarlink.org/ You as an end-user can now see the stats of the Allstar core infrastructure at any time! Please know we continue to work on improvements, it was a LARGE project to get the legacy network to this point and now that those waters are settling you will begin to see advances. We don?t run the back-end of this network lightly or on a Raspberry Pi :> If you have questions, as always, the team is here to assist. Please know there are many of us working behind the scenes to keep the Allstar network we all know and love running and online 24x7x365. Feel free to email directly off-list if any questions need to be answered. Want to help? Use the donation link to send Allstar a donation (please note, my commercial company doesn?t request any fees). Mike Wolthuis KB8ZGL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As far as that other group that had emailed me, ill see if I still have the personal email from that group. I think I was asking this group about the usb fob concerning COR and PTT and then I got the PM from someone pointing me to that website and how it was much better and asterisk was junk. Oh well. Im still here. Harold K7ILO Las Vegas, NV. Node 27863 From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:03 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Politics Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but still. As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a microcosm of society in general; were it not so. On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, > > wrote: I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded me of how I had known about them. They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides the point. The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward the asterisk group. I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out of em. Which I took personal because Im one of them. Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? Harold K7ILO Las Vegas, NV. Node 27863 From: App_rpt-users > On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org . I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. -- Tim WD6AWP _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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HamVoIP branding and "market penetration" speak suggests something less than benevolent, and their creative alternatives/options for some aspects of the scheme... fine - depart from rather than collaborate toward improvements of the WHOLE of the AllStar system.?? Amateur radio has NO room for the 'bitchiness' of X- vs Y- , etc.?? Let's connect and communicate. All due respect and appreciation for this.? Carry on! -------------------------------------Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:11:15 -0700 From: Tim Sawyer Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 02:35:31 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 19:35:31 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: <011201d44ee1$f177dec0$d4679c40$@gmail.com> References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> <011201d44ee1$f177dec0$d4679c40$@gmail.com> Message-ID: As far as that other group that had emailed me, ill see if I still have the personal email from that group. I think I was asking this group about the usb fob concerning COR and PTT and then I got the PM from someone pointing me to that website and how it was much better and asterisk was junk. HamVoIP admits they have done that and don't think it's wrong. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 4:55 PM wrote: > It was the helical magnetic loop antenna group on yahoo who was supposedly > created by K8NDS. > > If I remember correctly it was he that wanted to start a petition with the > FCC about some up coming considerations they (the FCC) had > > about licensing or something like that. In a roundabout way he used the > no code techs as A blame for the way HF has become. > > I don?t remember exactly plus I said what I had to say and dropped the > group immediately after that because I didn?t want to hear any justification > > of the bad attitude these guy, and im sure many others had about that. > > > > As far as that other group that had emailed me, ill see if I still have > the personal email from that group. I think I was asking this group about > the usb fob concerning COR and PTT and then I got > > the PM from someone pointing me to that website and how it was much better > and asterisk was junk. > > > > Oh well. > > > > Im still here. > > > > Harold > > K7ILO > > Las Vegas, NV. > > Node 27863 > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users *On > Behalf Of *Buddy Brannan > *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:03 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Politics > > > > Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the > lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but > still. > > > > As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim > there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will > try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a > microcosm of society in general; were it not so. > > > > On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, wrote: > > > > I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded > me of how I had known about them. > > They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post > with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides > the point. > > The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward > the asterisk group. > > I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. > > > > It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic > loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. > > It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s > when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out > of em. > > Which I took personal because Im one of them. > > > > Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how > ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? > > > > Harold > > K7ILO > > Las Vegas, NV. > > Node 27863 > > > > *From:* App_rpt-users *On > Behalf Of *Tim Sawyer > *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Politics > > > > > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in > numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up > to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August > 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. > > > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not > spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes > attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on > this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must > be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this > time. > > > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason > AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around > the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially > taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as > possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and > co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board > members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go > perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only > attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about > anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we > have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. > > > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up > some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say > enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are > welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of > others who have nothing but good intentions. > > > > -- > > Tim WD6AWP > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Tim WD6AWP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 03:00:08 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:00:08 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> Message-ID: I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after asking for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly told them I would use there packet of supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as I dont want to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont remember the name. Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 ? 01:03, Buddy Brannan a ?crit : > Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the > lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but > still. > > As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim > there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will > try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a > microcosm of society in general; were it not so. > > On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, wrote: > > I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded > me of how I had known about them. > They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post > with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides > the point. > The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward > the asterisk group. > I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. > > It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic > loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. > It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s > when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out > of em. > Which I took personal because Im one of them. > > Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how > ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? > > Harold > K7ILO > Las Vegas, NV. > Node 27863 > > *From:* App_rpt-users *On > Behalf Of *Tim Sawyer > *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM > *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt > *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Politics > > > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in > numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up > to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August > 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not > spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes > attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on > this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must > be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this > time. > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason > AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around > the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially > taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as > possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and > co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board > members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go > perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only > attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about > anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we > have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up > some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say > enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are > welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of > others who have nothing but good intentions. > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 14:11:37 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:11:37 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> Message-ID: Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 which I give freely to anyone who wants it with no restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you not to port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further demonstrates their total disregard for fairness. But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built upon the knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP took Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of development by countless people and closed it, ending the path to the next level of knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one shared their knowledge. "We stand on the shoulders of giants" is the point I'm making. No one will be standing on HamVoIP's shoulders. HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to Allmon 2. A whole lot more of that should be happening. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel wrote: > I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after asking > for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly told them I > would use there packet of supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as > I dont want to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont > remember the name. > > > > Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 ? 01:03, Buddy Brannan a > ?crit : > >> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the >> lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but >> still. >> >> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim >> there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will >> try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a >> microcosm of society in general; were it not so. >> >> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, wrote: >> >> I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded >> me of how I had known about them. >> They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post >> with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides >> the point. >> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward >> the asterisk group. >> I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. >> >> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic >> loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. >> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s >> when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out >> of em. >> Which I took personal because Im one of them. >> >> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how >> ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? >> >> Harold >> K7ILO >> Las Vegas, NV. >> Node 27863 >> >> *From:* App_rpt-users *On >> Behalf Of *Tim Sawyer >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM >> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Politics >> >> >> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals >> in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is >> up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the >> August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. >> >> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding >> not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the >> scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak >> publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false >> statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular >> post at this time. >> >> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason >> AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. >> >> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around >> the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. >> >> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially >> taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as >> possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and >> co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board >> members and made arrangements for what you see today. >> >> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go >> perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only >> attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about >> anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we >> have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. >> >> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up >> some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say >> enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are >> welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of >> others who have nothing but good intentions. >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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URL: From loren at lorentedford.com Tue Sep 18 15:05:31 2018 From: loren at lorentedford.com (Loren Tedford) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 10:05:31 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> Message-ID: <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> I have been seeing some of theses posts.. But what the heck is going on???????????? Is this over the whole deal where i am degrading the product or what ever because of my purchase of voipham.com? I created it originally to be a tutorial kinda page for those of us that had trouble installing allstar link back in the day.. Yeah i know its about 5 or 6 years old now and i haven't done much with it since my accident in October of 2014 and sorry about that.. Also Tim I am looking at digging a bit further into allmon will update things eventually but was looking at making it more mobile compliant that sort of thing and possibly locking it down with like an admin page using MySQL database or some thing.. Just haven't gotten around to having Mark to help me with some of that since i have forgotten just about all of it now. Anyway still trying to figure out exactly what i missed that started this whole political incorrectness or what ever.. Thank You all involved :) Keep up the good work! Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) On 9/18/2018 9:11 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software > https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 which I give freely to anyone who > wants it with no restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you not to > port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further demonstrates their total > disregard for fairness. > > But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built upon > the knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP took > Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of development > by countless people and closed it, ending the path to the next level > of knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one shared their > knowledge. "We stand on the shoulders of giants" is the point I'm > making. No one will be standing on HamVoIP's shoulders. > > HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to Allmon 2.? > A whole lot more of that should be happening. > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel > wrote: > > I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after > asking for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I > publicly told them I would use there packet of supermon to port it > to allstar link. Never did as I dont want to agravate this with > the coder of supermon, wich I dont remember the name. > > > > Le?lun. 17 sept. 2018 ??01:03, Buddy Brannan > a ?crit?: > > Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to > question the lack of any source code release? I did. No real > skin off my nose, but still. > > As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean > magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty decent > bunch, but there?s always someone who will try to ruin it for > everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a > microcosm of society in general; were it not so. > >> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, > > > > wrote: >> >> I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, >> it reminded me of how I had known about them. >> They private emailed me about what they were up to after I >> hit this post with a question about something that I don?t >> remember, but that?s besides the point. >> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, >> hateful toward the asterisk group. >> I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. >> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way.? I left >> the magnetic loop group after expressing my feelings toward >> something that was said. >> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby >> during the 90?s when the FCC introduced the no code >> technician and they bashed the crap out of em. >> Which I took personal because Im one of them. >> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how >> political and how ham groups bash the other.? What has OUR >> HOBBY come to? >> Harold >> K7ILO >> Las Vegas, NV. >> Node 27863 >> *From:*App_rpt-users >> > >*On >> Behalf Of*Tim Sawyer >> *Sent:*Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM >> *To:*Users of Asterisk app_rpt >> > > >> *Subject:*[App_rpt-users] Politics >> >> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP >> principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls >> regarding what AllStarLink is up to.?Before you read the rest >> of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over >> on hamVoIP.org . >> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should >> be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent >> tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks >> working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my >> low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements >> must be publicly corrected.?I will address only this >> particular post at this time. >> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very >> reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. >> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous >> servers around the country run by folks that donate their >> time, effort and money. >> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was >> unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns >> were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden >> death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar >> contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made >> arrangements for what you see today. >> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers >> didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash >> individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham >> Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making >> mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have >> a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used >> to say. >> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve >> to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To >> HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to >> build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. >> But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who >> have nothing but good intentions. >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email >> address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via >> email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please >> send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email > address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via > email confirmation. 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URL: From kb9mwr at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 15:32:54 2018 From: kb9mwr at gmail.com (Steve L) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 10:32:54 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> Message-ID: Loren, Everyone is referring to hamvoip.org On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:05 AM Loren Tedford wrote: > > I have been seeing some of theses posts.. But what the heck is going on???????????? > > > Is this over the whole deal where i am degrading the product or what ever because of my purchase of voipham.com? I created it originally to be a tutorial kinda page for those of us that had trouble installing allstar link back in the day.. Yeah i know its about 5 or 6 years old now and i haven't done much with it since my accident in October of 2014 and sorry about that.. Also Tim I am looking at digging a bit further into allmon will update things eventually but was looking at making it more mobile compliant that sort of thing and possibly locking it down with like an admin page using MySQL database or some thing.. Just haven't gotten around to having Mark to help me with some of that since i have forgotten just about all of it now. > > > Anyway still trying to figure out exactly what i missed that started this whole political incorrectness or what ever.. > > > Thank You all involved :) Keep up the good work! > > Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) > > > > > > > On 9/18/2018 9:11 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 which I give freely to anyone who wants it with no restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you not to port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further demonstrates their total disregard for fairness. > > But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built upon the knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP took Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of development by countless people and closed it, ending the path to the next level of knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one shared their knowledge. "We stand on the shoulders of giants" is the point I'm making. No one will be standing on HamVoIP's shoulders. > > HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to Allmon 2. A whole lot more of that should be happening. > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel wrote: >> >> I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after asking for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly told them I would use there packet of supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as I dont want to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont remember the name. >> >> >> >> Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 ? 01:03, Buddy Brannan a ?crit : >>> >>> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but still. >>> >>> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a microcosm of society in general; were it not so. >>> >>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded me of how I had known about them. >>> They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides the point. >>> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward the asterisk group. >>> I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. >>> >>> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. >>> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out of em. >>> Which I took personal because Im one of them. >>> >>> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? >>> >>> Harold >>> K7ILO >>> Las Vegas, NV. >>> Node 27863 >>> >>> From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer >>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM >>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics >>> >>> >>> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. >>> >>> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. >>> >>> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. >>> >>> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. >>> >>> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. >>> >>> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. >>> >>> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. >>> >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From tisawyer at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 15:42:53 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:42:53 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> Message-ID: Loren, Hamvoip.com not voipham.com. Didn't know about voipham.com. If I transposed the URL in one of my emails, my apologies. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:06 AM Loren Tedford wrote: > I have been seeing some of theses posts.. But what the heck is going > on???????????? > > > Is this over the whole deal where i am degrading the product or what ever > because of my purchase of voipham.com? I created it originally to be a > tutorial kinda page for those of us that had trouble installing allstar > link back in the day.. Yeah i know its about 5 or 6 years old now and i > haven't done much with it since my accident in October of 2014 and sorry > about that.. Also Tim I am looking at digging a bit further into allmon > will update things eventually but was looking at making it more mobile > compliant that sort of thing and possibly locking it down with like an > admin page using MySQL database or some thing.. Just haven't gotten around > to having Mark to help me with some of that since i have forgotten just > about all of it now. > > > Anyway still trying to figure out exactly what i missed that started this > whole political incorrectness or what ever.. > > > Thank You all involved :) Keep up the good work! > > Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) > > > > > > > On 9/18/2018 9:11 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > > Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software > https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 which I give freely to anyone who > wants it with no restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you not to port > Supermon to Allstarlink, that further demonstrates their total disregard > for fairness. > > But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built upon the > knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP took > Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of development by > countless people and closed it, ending the path to the next level of > knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one shared their knowledge. "We > stand on the shoulders of giants" is the point I'm making. No one will be > standing on HamVoIP's shoulders. > > HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to Allmon 2. A > whole lot more of that should be happening. > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel wrote: > >> I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after asking >> for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly told them I >> would use there packet of supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as >> I dont want to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont >> remember the name. >> >> >> >> Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 ? 01:03, Buddy Brannan a >> ?crit : >> >>> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the >>> lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but >>> still. >>> >>> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim >>> there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will >>> try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a >>> microcosm of society in general; were it not so. >>> >>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded >>> me of how I had known about them. >>> They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post >>> with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides >>> the point. >>> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward >>> the asterisk group. >>> I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. >>> >>> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic >>> loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. >>> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s >>> when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out >>> of em. >>> Which I took personal because Im one of them. >>> >>> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how >>> ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? >>> >>> Harold >>> K7ILO >>> Las Vegas, NV. >>> Node 27863 >>> >>> *From:* App_rpt-users *On >>> Behalf Of *Tim Sawyer >>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM >>> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>> *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Politics >>> >>> >>> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals >>> in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is >>> up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the >>> August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. >>> >>> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding >>> not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the >>> scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak >>> publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false >>> statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular >>> post at this time. >>> >>> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason >>> AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. >>> >>> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around >>> the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. >>> >>> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was >>> unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as >>> officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends >>> and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board >>> members and made arrangements for what you see today. >>> >>> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go >>> perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only >>> attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about >>> anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we >>> have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. >>> >>> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up >>> some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say >>> enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are >>> welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of >>> others who have nothing but good intentions. >>> >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >>> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >>> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>> confirmation. 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URL: From loren at lorentedford.com Tue Sep 18 16:59:11 2018 From: loren at lorentedford.com (Loren Tedford) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:59:11 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> Message-ID: <70b83dd7-9613-513c-1596-1f784809b5f5@lorentedford.com> Ok.. Sounds good I guess i must have missed some of the emails along the line.. I updated one of my videos on the installation of Allstarlink today and looking to eventually get around to show people how to setup config scripts including allmon as well but for the rest of the day i gotta get back to streaming and a couple of games today.. Trust me i was looking forward to getting this video made for awhile now but looking to do a playlist on this so that way in case i some thing changes all i gotta do is adjust the playlist accordingly rather the re edit a long video. https://youtu.be/iOvmE2lk99M anyway off to the projects.. 73 KC9ZHV Loren Tedford On 9/18/2018 10:42 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: > Loren, > > Hamvoip.com not voipham.com . Didn't know about > voipham.com . If I transposed the URL in one of my > emails, my apologies. > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:06 AM Loren Tedford > wrote: > > I have been seeing some of theses posts.. But what the heck is > going on???????????? > > > Is this over the whole deal where i am degrading the product or > what ever because of my purchase of voipham.com > ? I created it originally to be a tutorial > kinda page for those of us that had trouble installing allstar > link back in the day.. Yeah i know its about 5 or 6 years old now > and i haven't done much with it since my accident in October of > 2014 and sorry about that.. Also Tim I am looking at digging a bit > further into allmon will update things eventually but was looking > at making it more mobile compliant that sort of thing and possibly > locking it down with like an admin page using MySQL database or > some thing.. Just haven't gotten around to having Mark to help me > with some of that since i have forgotten just about all of it now. > > > Anyway still trying to figure out exactly what i missed that > started this whole political incorrectness or what ever.. > > > Thank You all involved :) Keep up the good work! > > Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) > > > > > > > On 9/18/2018 9:11 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software >> https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 which I give freely to anyone >> who wants it with no restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you >> not to port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further demonstrates >> their total disregard for fairness. >> >> But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built >> upon the knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP >> took Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of >> development by countless people and closed it, ending the path to >> the next level of knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one >> shared their knowledge. "We stand on the shoulders of giants" is >> the point I'm making. No one will be standing on HamVoIP's >> shoulders. >> >> HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to >> Allmon 2.? A whole lot more of that should be happening. >> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel > > wrote: >> >> I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list >> after asking for the source code.. I was even kicked out >> after I publicly told them I would use there packet of >> supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as I dont want >> to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont >> remember the name. >> >> >> >> Le?lun. 17 sept. 2018 ??01:03, Buddy Brannan >> > a ?crit?: >> >> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring >> to question the lack of any source code release? I did. >> No real skin off my nose, but still. >> >> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean >> magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty >> decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will try to >> ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our >> hobby is a microcosm of society in general; were it not so. >> >>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, >> > >> > wrote: >>> >>> I don?t know much about them but after going to the >>> website, it reminded me of how I had known about them. >>> They private emailed me about what they were up to after >>> I hit this post with a question about something that I >>> don?t remember, but that?s besides the point. >>> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, >>> hateful toward the asterisk group. >>> I never pursued their website or anything else about >>> them since. >>> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way.? I >>> left the magnetic loop group after expressing my >>> feelings toward something that was said. >>> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby >>> during the 90?s when the FCC introduced the no code >>> technician and they bashed the crap out of em. >>> Which I took personal because Im one of them. >>> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how >>> political and how ham groups bash the other.? What has >>> OUR HOBBY come to? >>> Harold >>> K7ILO >>> Las Vegas, NV. >>> Node 27863 >>> *From:*App_rpt-users >>> >> >*On >>> Behalf Of*Tim Sawyer >>> *Sent:*Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM >>> *To:*Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>> >> > >>> *Subject:*[App_rpt-users] Politics >>> >>> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the >>> HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and >>> telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up >>> to.?Before you read the rest of this email please take a >>> look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org >>> . >>> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I >>> should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so >>> I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to >>> get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly >>> on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some >>> false statements must be publicly corrected.?I will >>> address only this particular post at this time. >>> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very >>> reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that >>> scenario. >>> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous >>> servers around the country run by folks that donate >>> their time, effort and money. >>> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar >>> was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The >>> reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's >>> sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers >>> of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board >>> members and made arrangements for what you see today. >>> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new >>> servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to >>> bash individuals who are only attempting to improve >>> AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about >>> anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the >>> learning process. Now we have a better system and no one >>> got shot as my Marine friend used to say. >>> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only >>> serve to build up some individuals at the expense of >>> others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! >>> If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome >>> to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by >>> speaking badly of others who have nothing but good >>> intentions. >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your >>> email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options >>> button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it >>> via email confirmation. If you have trouble >>> unsubscribing, please send a message to the list >>> detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your >> email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options >> button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it >> via email confirmation. If you have trouble >> unsubscribing, please send a message to the list >> detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email >> address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via >> email confirmation. 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URL: From buddy at brannan.name Tue Sep 18 20:34:00 2018 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:34:00 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> Message-ID: Heya Lauren, Nope. This is all to do with the HamVOIP folks, AKA Doug ?n Dave, who developed an alternative bistro for the Pi, previous the BBB and friends, on an ArchLinux bistro. There?s some not nice ball playing going on here, beginning with but not limited to development of software without any source code release in evidence or, apparently, planned, like ever. > On Sep 18, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Loren Tedford wrote: > > I have been seeing some of theses posts.. But what the heck is going on???????????? > > > > Is this over the whole deal where i am degrading the product or what ever because of my purchase of voipham.com? I created it originally to be a tutorial kinda page for those of us that had trouble installing allstar link back in the day.. Yeah i know its about 5 or 6 years old now and i haven't done much with it since my accident in October of 2014 and sorry about that.. Also Tim I am looking at digging a bit further into allmon will update things eventually but was looking at making it more mobile compliant that sort of thing and possibly locking it down with like an admin page using MySQL database or some thing.. Just haven't gotten around to having Mark to help me with some of that since i have forgotten just about all of it now. > > > > Anyway still trying to figure out exactly what i missed that started this whole political incorrectness or what ever.. > > > > Thank You all involved :) Keep up the good work! > > Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/18/2018 9:11 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 which I give freely to anyone who wants it with no restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you not to port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further demonstrates their total disregard for fairness. >> >> But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built upon the knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP took Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of development by countless people and closed it, ending the path to the next level of knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one shared their knowledge. "We stand on the shoulders of giants" is the point I'm making. No one will be standing on HamVoIP's shoulders. >> >> HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to Allmon 2. A whole lot more of that should be happening. >> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel wrote: >> I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after asking for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly told them I would use there packet of supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as I dont want to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont remember the name. >> >> >> >> Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 ? 01:03, Buddy Brannan a ?crit : >> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but still. >> >> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a microcosm of society in general; were it not so. >> >>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded me of how I had known about them. >>> They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides the point. >>> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward the asterisk group. >>> I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. >>> >>> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. >>> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out of em. >>> Which I took personal because Im one of them. >>> >>> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? >>> >>> Harold >>> K7ILO >>> Las Vegas, NV. >>> Node 27863 >>> >>> From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer >>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM >>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics >>> >>> >>> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. >>> >>> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. >>> >>> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. >>> >>> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. >>> >>> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. >>> >>> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. >>> >>> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. >>> >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From mwbesemer at cox.net Tue Sep 18 20:39:25 2018 From: mwbesemer at cox.net (Mike Besemer) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:39:25 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: <12f301d44e1e$08227b90$186772b0$@gmail.com> <1BC95111-1019-4D62-BAF4-9672044FB4BE@brannan.name> <60e5bb99-733a-984c-8c7c-6456504f8797@lorentedford.com> Message-ID: <000f01d44f8f$b03332d0$10999870$@cox.net> I just wish all this talk would stop! I get it - I really do - but all this talk is just stirring the pot and it certainly doesn't solve anything. It's like watching Congress! Mike WM4B -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 4:34 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Politics Heya Lauren, Nope. This is all to do with the HamVOIP folks, AKA Doug ?n Dave, who developed an alternative bistro for the Pi, previous the BBB and friends, on an ArchLinux bistro. There?s some not nice ball playing going on here, beginning with but not limited to development of software without any source code release in evidence or, apparently, planned, like ever. > On Sep 18, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Loren Tedford wrote: > > I have been seeing some of theses posts.. But what the heck is going on???????????? > > > > Is this over the whole deal where i am degrading the product or what ever because of my purchase of voipham.com? I created it originally to be a tutorial kinda page for those of us that had trouble installing allstar link back in the day.. Yeah i know its about 5 or 6 years old now and i haven't done much with it since my accident in October of 2014 and sorry about that.. Also Tim I am looking at digging a bit further into allmon will update things eventually but was looking at making it more mobile compliant that sort of thing and possibly locking it down with like an admin page using MySQL database or some thing.. Just haven't gotten around to having Mark to help me with some of that since i have forgotten just about all of it now. > > > > Anyway still trying to figure out exactly what i missed that started this whole political incorrectness or what ever.. > > > > Thank You all involved :) Keep up the good work! > > Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/18/2018 9:11 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 which I give freely to anyone who wants it with no restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you not to port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further demonstrates their total disregard for fairness. >> >> But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built upon the knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP took Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of development by countless people and closed it, ending the path to the next level of knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one shared their knowledge. "We stand on the shoulders of giants" is the point I'm making. No one will be standing on HamVoIP's shoulders. >> >> HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to Allmon 2. A whole lot more of that should be happening. >> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel wrote: >> I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after asking for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly told them I would use there packet of supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as I dont want to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont remember the name. >> >> >> >> Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 ? 01:03, Buddy Brannan a ?crit : >> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but still. >> >> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there?s always someone who will try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a microcosm of society in general; were it not so. >> >>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I don?t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded me of how I had known about them. >>> They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post with a question about something that I don?t remember, but that?s besides the point. >>> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward the asterisk group. >>> I never pursued their website or anything else about them since. >>> >>> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I left the magnetic loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said. >>> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90?s when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out of em. >>> Which I took personal because Im one of them. >>> >>> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how ham groups bash the other. What has OUR HOBBY come to? >>> >>> Harold >>> K7ILO >>> Las Vegas, NV. >>> Node 27863 >>> >>> From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer >>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM >>> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt >>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics >>> >>> >>> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. >>> >>> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this time. >>> >>> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. >>> >>> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. >>> >>> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board members and made arrangements for what you see today. >>> >>> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. >>> >>> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of others who have nothing but good intentions. >>> >>> -- >>> Tim WD6AWP >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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From kp4tr.ramon at gmail.com Wed Sep 19 02:52:51 2018 From: kp4tr.ramon at gmail.com (Ramon Gonzalez) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:52:51 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I completely ignore HamVoip, unsubscribed from their email list, and only focus in the official Allstarlink emails. And I sleep well. On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:11 PM Tim Sawyer wrote: > > There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in > numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up > to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August > 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. > > I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not > spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes > attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on > this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must > be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this > time. > > First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason > AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. > > Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around > the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. > > Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially > taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as > possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and > co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board > members and made arrangements for what you see today. > > Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go > perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only > attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about > anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we > have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. > > The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up > some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say > enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are > welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of > others who have nothing but good intentions. > > -- > Tim WD6AWP > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sam.nabkey at gmail.com Wed Sep 19 02:57:49 2018 From: sam.nabkey at gmail.com (Sam Nabkey) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:57:49 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Or, be like me and unsubscribe from all of it. The politics are the reason I don't do radio clubs. Enjoy! >From my little smartphone keyboard On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 22:53 Ramon Gonzalez wrote: > I completely ignore HamVoip, unsubscribed from their email list, and only > focus in the official Allstarlink emails. > > And I sleep well. > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:11 PM Tim Sawyer wrote: > >> >> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals >> in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is >> up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the >> August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org. >> >> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding >> not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the >> scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak >> publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false >> statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular >> post at this time. >> >> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason >> AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario. >> >> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around >> the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money. >> >> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially >> taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as >> possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and >> co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board >> members and made arrangements for what you see today. >> >> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go >> perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only >> attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about >> anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we >> have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say. >> >> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up >> some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say >> enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are >> welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of >> others who have nothing but good intentions. >> >> -- >> Tim WD6AWP >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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Name: RPTR_Hum.wma Type: audio/x-ms-wma Size: 435744 bytes Desc: not available URL: From qrz at tg9aor.net Wed Sep 19 14:50:53 2018 From: qrz at tg9aor.net (qrz at tg9aor.net) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:50:53 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Node 48455 still having registration issues after adding private module Message-ID: After another attempt to integrate a private module(1001), I got the following: repeater*CLI> iax2 show registry Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh State 44.98.254.145:4569 Y 48455 60 Rejected [Sep 19 08:18:15] NOTICE[22786]: chan_iax2.c:9712 socket_process: Registration of '48455' rejected: 'Registration Refused' from: '44.98.254.145' Do I need to put the private module at the very end of rpt.conf? ,before the last line that starts with # The node works, connects to allstar and echolink nodes, bridges to DMR no problem, but it fails to register on the stats.allstarlink.org database. I deleted the private node from rpt.conf , modules.conf, extensions.conf, and after that it shows up on the database again. I guess I will try to compile instead of using the image for armhf architechture, but then again I recall there is this DAHDI issue when compiling with stretch and a RPi 3B+. Do I loose by not being registered at allstarlink.org? Is it OK to just run it as is with the DMR bridge and not showing up on the stats.allstarlink.org list? 73 de TG9AOR From Bryan at bryanfields.net Wed Sep 19 14:59:55 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:59:55 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Registration Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1c2d831e-dc70-cb16-58fb-411b04ccaa1f@bryanfields.net> On 9/19/18 10:25 AM, Sean McCarthy wrote: > [Sep 19 10:16:12] NOTICE[360] chan_iax2.c: Registration of '46483' > rejected: 'Registration Refused' from: '44.98.254.145' Try refreshing your DNS 'iax2 reload'. Register moved to the ORD cluster after some sort of a failure at the TPA server. Not sure exactly why TPA dropped out, but it did kick over to ORD as expected. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From Bryan at bryanfields.net Wed Sep 19 16:01:20 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:01:20 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Reg server root cause Message-ID: <997cc6b6-6dab-e0a7-7b24-ac24596a4480@bryanfields.net> Looks like we had a failure in Tampa this morning, but as expected the registration server did kick over to Chicago (ORD), but there are still several hundred nodes not running dnsmgr and thus kept trying to use the IP of the Tampa server. Please check your registrations as below: > > iax2 show registry > Host dnsmgr Username Perceived Refresh State > 44.72.21.13:4569 Y 44233 44.98.249.6:4569 60 Registered > 44.72.21.13:4569 Y 42032 44.98.249.6:4569 60 Registered If you don't have dnsmgr as 'Y' please add this below as /etc/asterisk/dnsmgr.conf -- [general] enable=yes ; enable creation of managed DNS lookups ; default is 'no' refreshinterval=300 ; refresh managed DNS lookups every seconds ; default is 300 (5 minutes) -- Then restart asterisk and verify you're now seeing dnsmgr as 'Y' in the registry messages. Also inexplicably, about 300 nodes are still hitting allstarlink.org directly for registrations. This server may go offline at any time. We've personally messaged node owners with the address on file before, please ensure you're using register.allstarlink.org as the registration server and you have dnsmgr enabled. The root cause today looks to be IPSEC tunnels went down and didn't reestablish automatically as they should have. As all traffic between the allstarlink.org servers is inside these tunnels this caused the TPA nodes to drop out of the cluster. The DNS did fail over to the register-ord server so for the majority of people DNS refreshed and you moved over. We're going to let it run on ORD for a bit. Further complicating this was as these tunnels were down, our monitoring system was unable to contact us, so we learned about the outage 15 minutes later than we should have. We'll be correcting this. We're investigating why IPSEC didn't refresh and reestablish these tunnels automatically, as testing before showed they had. Please ensure you have dnsmgr running on your node(s). 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From n6kmr at frontiernet.net Wed Sep 19 16:42:37 2018 From: n6kmr at frontiernet.net (Jim Hertel) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 09:42:37 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio Hum In-Reply-To: <5BA26217.00001B.04376@LEAPER-PC> References: <5BA26217.00001B.04376@LEAPER-PC> Message-ID: Look for a bad ground ..? I had one found that the grounding system had a corrosive connection. On 9/19/2018 7:49 AM, lengriff at optimum.net wrote: > Recently, my repeater at 42690 began developing an audio ' hum ' . An > Asterisk restart does not stop it. A reboot is required. > It is NOT power supply related. I tried substitute supplies for the Pi and > Repeater. The message log shows not related errors. > > It is software related somehow. > > [ short audio file attached ] > > Len > WB2HKK > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tisawyer at gmail.com Wed Sep 19 21:08:14 2018 From: tisawyer at gmail.com (Tim Sawyer) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:08:14 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Registration Refused In-Reply-To: <5BA260C0.000015.04376@LEAPER-PC> References: <5BA260C0.000015.04376@LEAPER-PC> Message-ID: I think there was a problem earlier. Looks like it's fixed now. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 7:44 AM lengriff at optimum.net wrote: > My messages log shows one of the registration servers refuses the > registration of my node 42690: > [Sep 19 10:37:51] NOTICE[479] Chan_iax2.c: Registration of '42690' > rejected: > 'Registration Refused' from: '44.98.254.145' > Len > WB2HKK > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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Thanks, Scott KB2EAR From Bryan at bryanfields.net Wed Sep 19 21:26:53 2018 From: Bryan at bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:26:53 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Quantar programming In-Reply-To: <4E418186-DD7F-43C3-93D2-7BC5F29CA9F6@kb2ear.net> References: <4E418186-DD7F-43C3-93D2-7BC5F29CA9F6@kb2ear.net> Message-ID: <465a4692-1095-e536-c406-5985e8bb1740@bryanfields.net> On 9/19/18 5:18 PM, Scott Weis wrote: > Anyone have an example code plug for a quantar for use with allstar and chan_usbradio? http://wiki.w9cr.net/index.php/Allstar_and_P25_on_Quantar That might be a bit complex, but you can remove lots of it, and there's an example codeplug. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From cnovey at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 00:08:22 2018 From: cnovey at gmail.com (Clifford Novey) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:08:22 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Quantar programming In-Reply-To: <465a4692-1095-e536-c406-5985e8bb1740@bryanfields.net> References: <4E418186-DD7F-43C3-93D2-7BC5F29CA9F6@kb2ear.net> <465a4692-1095-e536-c406-5985e8bb1740@bryanfields.net> Message-ID: <002601d45076$0c4ccdb0$24e66910$@gmail.com> Scott- I am involved in a similar project. We can compare notes. I have a sample plug by a guy who does not use P25 (only analog). He also does not use the Centronix 50 pin and instead uses the 25 pin on the Quantar. We will be using a DMK and Pi node with the Quantar (hopefully!) Clifford KK6QMS -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:27 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Quantar programming On 9/19/18 5:18 PM, Scott Weis wrote: > Anyone have an example code plug for a quantar for use with allstar and chan_usbradio? http://wiki.w9cr.net/index.php/Allstar_and_P25_on_Quantar That might be a bit complex, but you can remove lots of it, and there's an example codeplug. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 01:03:29 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:03:29 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID download Message-ID: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> Hey gang. Does anyone know where I can download the ACID version? I need to load it back up to test to see if I have hardware issues or what. Thanks Harold K7ILO From mm at midnighteng.com Thu Sep 20 01:20:21 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:20:21 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID download In-Reply-To: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> References: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9e4bc835-7b33-984b-2136-d64c23f6afe9@midnighteng.com> See downloads at the bottom of the page. https://allstarlink.org/ ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/19/2018 9:03 PM, k7ilo1 at gmail.com wrote: > Hey gang. > > Does anyone know where I can download the ACID version? I need to load it > back up to test to see if I have hardware issues or what. > > Thanks > > Harold > K7ILO > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From n6gkj1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 01:20:02 2018 From: n6gkj1 at gmail.com (N6GKJ Land) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:20:02 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio Hum In-Reply-To: <5BA26217.00001B.04376@LEAPER-PC> References: <5BA26217.00001B.04376@LEAPER-PC> Message-ID: Also make sure that rpt.conf is set up properly. Make sure your not transmitting PL tone mixed on your audio. That happened to a friend of mine On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 7:50 AM lengriff at optimum.net wrote: > Recently, my repeater at 42690 began developing an audio ' hum ' . An > Asterisk restart does not stop it. A reboot is required. > It is NOT power supply related. I tried substitute supplies for the Pi and > Repeater. The message log shows not related errors. > > It is software related somehow. > > [ short audio file attached ] > > Len > WB2HKK_______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Thu Sep 20 01:26:17 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:26:17 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio Hum In-Reply-To: <5BA26217.00001B.04376@LEAPER-PC> References: <5BA26217.00001B.04376@LEAPER-PC> Message-ID: Going out on a limb here a bit... If it does not look like a normal 'ground' type of audio hum... If your exciter on your tx'r is synthesized, it may be a digital ground issue of sorts if the clock from it is making noise on your audio lines. something to look for. let us know what you find if anything ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/19/2018 10:49 AM, lengriff at optimum.net wrote: > Recently, my repeater at 42690 began developing an audio ' hum ' . An > Asterisk restart does not stop it. A reboot is required. > It is NOT power supply related. I tried substitute supplies for the Pi and > Repeater. The message log shows not related errors. > > It is software related somehow. > > [ short audio file attached ] > > Len > WB2HKK > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From bbrown at byrg.net Thu Sep 20 01:32:32 2018 From: bbrown at byrg.net (=?UTF-8?B?Qm9iIEJyb3duIC0gV8OYTlFY?=) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:32:32 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID download In-Reply-To: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> References: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: The link at the bottom is broken, use this instead http://dvswitch.org/files/AllStarLink/Archive/ACID/ -- Thanks in Advance Bob, W?NQX Kansas City Metro Area http://drsm0ke.net http://byrg.net http://sm0kenet.net Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 8:03 PM, wrote: > Hey gang. > > Does anyone know where I can download the ACID version? I need to load it > back up to test to see if I have hardware issues or what. > > Thanks > > Harold > K7ILO > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/ > cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of > the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit > options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 01:35:23 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:35:23 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID download In-Reply-To: <9e4bc835-7b33-984b-2136-d64c23f6afe9@midnighteng.com> References: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> <9e4bc835-7b33-984b-2136-d64c23f6afe9@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <02f601d45082$33a85f30$9af91d90$@gmail.com> Yeah there are not any files there. I looked there first. I thought there may be somewhere like an archive place. Thanks Mike. Harold -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:20 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] ACID download See downloads at the bottom of the page. https://allstarlink.org/ ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/19/2018 9:03 PM, k7ilo1 at gmail.com wrote: > Hey gang. > > Does anyone know where I can download the ACID version? I need to > load it back up to test to see if I have hardware issues or what. > > Thanks > > Harold > K7ILO > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 01:37:42 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:37:42 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID download In-Reply-To: <9e4bc835-7b33-984b-2136-d64c23f6afe9@midnighteng.com> References: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> <9e4bc835-7b33-984b-2136-d64c23f6afe9@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <02ff01d45082$86de1960$949a4c20$@gmail.com> I have it Mike I had to back up a few directories that the link does not point to. Ill update you on my experiment because my connection capability with ASL is sooooooo random. Thanks again Harold -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:20 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] ACID download See downloads at the bottom of the page. https://allstarlink.org/ ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/19/2018 9:03 PM, k7ilo1 at gmail.com wrote: > Hey gang. > > Does anyone know where I can download the ACID version? I need to > load it back up to test to see if I have hardware issues or what. > > Thanks > > Harold > K7ILO > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 02:01:29 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:01:29 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID download In-Reply-To: References: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <032901d45085$d934b6d0$8b9e2470$@gmail.com> Thanks Bob I had backed up a few directories and found it. Harold K7ILO From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Bob Brown - W?NQX Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:33 PM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] ACID download The link at the bottom is broken, use this instead http://dvswitch.org/files/AllStarLink/Archive/ACID/ -- Thanks in Advance Bob, W?NQX Kansas City Metro Area http://drsm0ke.net http://byrg.net http://sm0kenet.net Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 8:03 PM, > wrote: Hey gang. Does anyone know where I can download the ACID version? I need to load it back up to test to see if I have hardware issues or what. Thanks Harold K7ILO _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at kg5rdf.com Thu Sep 20 03:19:14 2018 From: david at kg5rdf.com (David) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 22:19:14 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio Hum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have not seen anything to do with PL in rpt.conf. Can you please point me in the right direction. Thanks David -------- Original message --------From: N6GKJ Land Date: 9/19/18 8:20 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Cc: kd2bxf_kev at geezerlab.com Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Audio Hum Also make sure that rpt.conf is set up properly. Make sure your not transmitting PL tone mixed on your audio. That happened to a friend of mine On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 7:50 AM lengriff at optimum.net wrote: Recently, my repeater at 42690 began developing an audio ' hum ' . An Asterisk restart does not stop it. A reboot is required. It is NOT power supply related. I tried substitute supplies for the Pi and Repeater. The message log shows not related errors. It is software related somehow. [ short audio file attached ] Len WB2HKK_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From petem001 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 20:14:51 2018 From: petem001 at gmail.com (Pierre Martel) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:14:51 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio dropouts In-Reply-To: <202573107.4136612.1536816810241@mail.yahoo.com> References: <202573107.4136612.1536816810241.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <202573107.4136612.1536816810241@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lots of people complaining about audio drop are in fact getting false dtmf detection when dtmf is detected app-rpt will prevent the dtmf to be repeated on the iax trunk and on the audio out line. If its the case check the input levels.there is also a radiorelax option that I remember can do a difference. Best way to know if you suffer from packet drop is to connect the node to a busy net and listen to rf audio and the iax links. Since the network will be tested inbound, from the busy node feed, and tested oubound from the local iax link to your computer, you will also know if it is the up or downlink to the node that is a problem. If both audio have drop, could be the uplink or node that have a problem, if the rf audio drop and iax trunk is ok, you are overloading your radio input and there is a level cutoff that come in, if you have no rf drop but iax link have drops, your node is ok, but the downlink is at fault... Hope this helped Ve2pf Le jeu. 13 sept. 2018 ? 01:33, TGundo 2003 a ?crit : > I recently updated my node to a Pi b3+ because I was having audio dropout > issues and we suspected it was a resource issue with the pi. > > Did some testing tonight, seemed better, had a little dropout but nothing > like it was. I have a pretty stretched internet connection as I live in the > farm fields, so we figured it was just a bandwidth issue on my connection. > > Later tonight as I did more testing I monitored with an IAX client. I get > the same dropouts on it just on the local LAN. > > This was the results of my Ping test internally from the Pi to a local > managed switch was this: > > > 202 packets transmitted, 202 received, 0% packet loss, time 211498ms > > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.647/0.844/5.241/0.507 ms > I'm not seeing an issue with the internal network. I'm wondering what else > it may be, and/or if there is a scientific way to pinpoint the trouble.I'm > using Repeater Builder USB RIM Lite for interfacing my Pi to the S-Com7330. > > Any thoughts welcome! > > Thanks! > Tom > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 20 22:00:06 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:00:06 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ACID download In-Reply-To: <9e4bc835-7b33-984b-2136-d64c23f6afe9@midnighteng.com> References: <02c101d4507d$bedf8240$3c9e86c0$@gmail.com> <9e4bc835-7b33-984b-2136-d64c23f6afe9@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <004601d4512d$4b1013b0$e1303b10$@gmail.com> Ok now im at a point that this HT that im testing with is probably not dishing out clear DTMF and I don't have another 70cm radio to test that theory. Sooooooo. Im heading out this weekend to get a new HT or something. TTY soon Harold -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:20 PM To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] ACID download See downloads at the bottom of the page. https://allstarlink.org/ ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/19/2018 9:03 PM, k7ilo1 at gmail.com wrote: > Hey gang. > > Does anyone know where I can download the ACID version? I need to > load it back up to test to see if I have hardware issues or what. > > Thanks > > Harold > K7ILO > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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From n6gkj1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 03:38:29 2018 From: n6gkj1 at gmail.com (N6GKJ Land) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:38:29 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Audio Hum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: PL or CTCSS settings are in the xxxusb.conf file. Make sure there is no value listed there On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 8:19 PM David wrote: > I have not seen anything to do with PL in rpt.conf. Can you please point > me in the right direction. > > Thanks David > > -------- Original message -------- > From: N6GKJ Land > Date: 9/19/18 8:20 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt > Cc: kd2bxf_kev at geezerlab.com > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Audio Hum > > Also make sure that rpt.conf is set up properly. Make sure your not > transmitting PL tone mixed on your audio. That happened to a friend of mine > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 7:50 AM lengriff at optimum.net > wrote: > >> Recently, my repeater at 42690 began developing an audio ' hum ' . An >> Asterisk restart does not stop it. A reboot is required. >> It is NOT power supply related. I tried substitute supplies for the Pi and >> Repeater. The message log shows not related errors. >> >> It is software related somehow. >> >> [ short audio file attached ] >> >> Len >> WB2HKK_______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and >> scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. 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URL: From n3ssl at yahoo.com Sat Sep 22 17:05:30 2018 From: n3ssl at yahoo.com (Ryan Gross) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] usbradio. conf References: <1890260651.847264.1537635930198.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1890260651.847264.1537635930198@mail.yahoo.com> Group, Recent install of listed build. Asterisk GIT Version adaec47 built by root @ odroidxu4 on a armv7l ? running Linux on 2018-03-07 14:53:41 UTC The problem I have ran into is when setting TX voice to 3.0 kHz I get a skipping of the tone. it goes away above 3.3 khc and below 2.9 kHz. the RX appears to be normal across the nodes I have connected to and save as expected. I am using the Repeater- builder original RIM and where I has in previous version Dial of ASL installed for Raspberry pi the PL tone worked.out of TXmixB. Is something different ? Ryan n3ssl [general] [usb_27671] eeprom = 0 ; EEPROM installed: 0,1 ; 0 = no (default) ; 1 = yes hdwtype = 0 ; Leave this set to 0 for USB sound fobs modified using ; the instructions from usbfob.pdf. Use a setting of ; 1 is for Dingotel/Sph interfaces. rxboost = 1 ; 0 - 20db attenuator inserted ; 1 - 20db attenuator removed ; Set to 1 for additonal gain if using a low-level receiver output rxctcssrelax = 1 ; reduce talkoff from radios w/o CTCSS TX HPF ; Do not change this, leave this as a 1 rxsqhyst = 375 ; Setting Squelch Hysteresis ; 3000 is the default amount. ; An amount of 500 seems good. ; Then set the squelch to the highest number revealed when doing a "radio ; tune rxsquelch" - running the command multiple (like 20) times in a row. ; txctcssdefault = 85.4 ; default TX CTCSS frequency, any frequency permitted rxctcssfreqs = 85.4 ; RX CTCSS frequencies list in floating point. must be in table txctcssfreqs = 85.4 ; TX CTCSS frequencies list. any frequency permitted. will follow RX CTCSS frequency rxctcssoverride = 0 ; Set to 1 to start out in carrier squelch mode carrierfrom = dsp ; no,usb,usbinvert,dsp,vox ; no - no carrier detection at all ; usb - from the COR line on the USB sound fob (Active high) ; usbinvert - from the inverted COR line on the USB sound fob (Active low) ; dsp - from RX noise using DSP techniques ; vox - voice activated from RX audio ctcssfrom = dsp ; no,usb,usbinvert,dsp ; no - no CTCSS decoding, system will be carrier squelch ; usb - from the CTCSS line on the USB sound fob (Active high) ; usbinvert - from the inverted CTCSS line on the USB sound fob (Active low) ; dsp - CTCSS decoding using RX audio in DSP. ; rxdemod option must be set to flat for this to work. rxdemod = flat ; input type from radio: no,speaker,flat ; no - RX audio input not used ; flat - Use RX audio from discriminator (before de-emphasis) ; speaker - use de-emphasized audio rxsquelchdelay = 30 ; delayline in ms carrier squelch tail eliminator rxondelay = 0 ; Number of 20mSec intervals following the release of PTT. ; Uncomment and/or adjust for simplex nodes to eliminate "Ping Ponging" ; or "Relay Racing". A positive value here will instruct the usbradio ; driver to ignore the COR line for a specified number of 20mSec ; intervals following the release of PTT. Use this ONLY on simplex ; nodes, and leave commented out for repeaters or other full duplex nodes. txboost = 1 ; Add transmitter audio gain boost: 0,1 txprelim = no ; Audio processing on left output channel: no,yes ; no - Audio is not pre-emphasized and limited. ; Suitable for use on a microphone input ; yes - Audio is pre-emphasized and limited. ; Suitable for direct connection to an FM modulator txlimonly = no ; Audio limiting with no pre-emphasis on output channel: no,yes ; no - Audio is not limited. ; yes - Audio is limited. ; Suitable for transmitters with no limiting but with pre-emphasis. txtoctype = notone ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase ; AKA ("reverse burst") before unkeying TX ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX ; AKA ("chicken burst") txmixa = voice ; Left channel output: no,voice,tone,composite,auxvoice ; no - Do not output anything ; voice - output voice only ; tone - CTCSS tone only ; composite - voice and tone ; auxvoice - auxiliary voice output at headphone level for monitoring txmixb = tone ; Right channel output: no,voice,tone,composite, auxvoice ; no - Do not output anything ; voice - output voice only ; tone - CTCSS tone only ; composite - voice and tone ; auxvoice - auxiliary voice output at headphone level for monitoring invertptt = 0 ; Invert PTT: 0,1 ; 0 - ground to transmit ; 1 - open to transmit duplex = 1 ; Duplex 0,1 ; 0 - half duplex ; 1 - full duplex duplex3 = 0 ; duplex 3 gain setting (0 to disable) ??? rxlpf = 1 ; Receiver Audio Low Pass Filter 0,1 2 ; 0 - 3.0 kHz cutoff (Default) value for reduced noise and increased intelligibility. ; 1 - 3.3 kHz cutoff for increased high end, sibilance and brightness. ; 2 - 3.5 kHz cutoff for even more high end, sibilance and brightness. rxhpf = 1 ; Receiver Audio High Pass Filter 0,1 ; 0 - 300 Hz cutoff. (Default) value to reduce sub-audible signals for retransmission and in the receiver speaker. ; 1 - 250 Hz cutoff for additional received and retransmitted bass response. ; recommend using this filter with a CTCSS tone no higher than 186.2 Hz. txlpf = 1 ; Transmitter Audio Low Pass Filter 0,1 ; 0 - 3.0 kHz cutoff. (Default) value. ; 1 - 3.3 kHz cutoff for increased high end, sibilance and brightness. txhpf = 1 ; Transmitter Audio High Pass Filter 0,1,2 ; 0 - 300 Hz cutoff. (Default) value to reduce interference between voice and sub-audible signaling tones and codes. ; 1 - 250 Hz cutoff for increased bass response in transmitted audio. ; 2 - 120 Hz cutoff for special applications requiring additional bass response in transmitted audio. ; Not recommended due to the increased possibility of voice energy interfering with sub-audible signaling From khalton at cox.net Sat Sep 22 21:58:25 2018 From: khalton at cox.net (Kevin Halton) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:58:25 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] OpenVPN Message-ID: <000701d452bf$639c5d10$2ad51730$@cox.net> I am trying to install OPenVPN On my rpi running debian stretch and a VPS with Ubuntu 15 . Everything I have found so far is riddled with errors and I am getting nowhere. Anyone have a good clear precise set of instructions they can point me to? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone have a good clear precise set > of instructions they can point me to? > Skip using OpenVPN completely and use SoftEther.? It supports OpenVPN natively (it will even generate the L2 and L3 configs for you) as well as a ton of other things. You can find out more about setting it up here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=196956 You can find SoftEther here:?? www.softether.org Download the VPN manager as well as it will give you a GUI that runs on Windows (or Linux under WINE) to manage your SoftEther VPN or bridge servers. -Stacy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k7ilo1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 23 20:20:16 2018 From: k7ilo1 at gmail.com (k7ilo1 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:20:16 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Serial Support Message-ID: <02cc01d4537a$d8270b60$88752220$@gmail.com> NM all. I found info on Github about my question. 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URL: From kc7mrq at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 23:27:11 2018 From: kc7mrq at gmail.com (Corey) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 17:27:11 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Error when upgrading Message-ID: Good evening I see this error when doing a "sudo apt-get upgrade". the system is a pi 3. sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: allstarlink asl-asterisk The following packages will be upgraded: asl-asterisk-tools 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 15 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/81.8 kB of archives. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Reading changelogs... Done (Reading database ... 88465 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../asl-asterisk-tools_1.01-20180226-12_all.deb ... Unpacking asl-asterisk-tools (1.01-20180226-12) over (0.9-20170809-1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/asl-asterisk-tools_1.01-20180226-12_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/lib/systemd/system/updatenodelist.service', which is also in package asl-asterisk 0.9-20170809-2 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/asl-asterisk-tools_1.01-20180226-12_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Wed Sep 26 23:39:02 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:39:02 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Error when upgrading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8557a9e9-c1c1-6c64-59b3-1ed94f0a9072@midnighteng.com> Have you place the kernel headers on hold as per the readme ? Login: repeater Passsword: allstarlink SSH port: 22 User repeater has sudo privileges (sudo -s) There may have been updates to the operating system and AllStarLink since this image was built. Run the following commands after the first time you boot. sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y sudo reboot at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/26/2018 7:27 PM, Corey wrote: > Good evening > I see this error when doing a "sudo apt-get upgrade". > the system is a pi 3. > > sudo apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > The following packages have been kept back: > allstarlink asl-asterisk > The following packages will be upgraded: > asl-asterisk-tools > 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > 15 not fully installed or removed. > Need to get 0 B/81.8 kB of archives. > After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y > Reading changelogs... Done > (Reading database ... 88465 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to unpack .../asl-asterisk-tools_1.01-20180226-12_all.deb ... > Unpacking asl-asterisk-tools (1.01-20180226-12) over (0.9-20170809-1) ... > dpkg: error processing archive > /var/cache/apt/archives/asl-asterisk-tools_1.01-20180226-12_all.deb > (--unpack): > trying to overwrite '/lib/systemd/system/updatenodelist.service', > which is also in package asl-asterisk 0.9-20170809-2 > dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/asl-asterisk-tools_1.01-20180226-12_all.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From n3ssl at yahoo.com Thu Sep 27 02:11:22 2018 From: n3ssl at yahoo.com (Ryan Gross) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [App_rpt-users] Server download to allstarlink.org References: <483198530.75307.1538014282925.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <483198530.75307.1538014282925@mail.yahoo.com> Hi All, Trying to download my server onto allstarlink.org and get this message. on cli No such command 'No such command '[Sep 26 22:04:22] NOTICE[474]: chan_iax2.c:9471 socket_process: Rejected connect attempt from 67.215.233.178, request '0 at allstar-sys' does not exist' (type 'help [Sep 26' for other possible commands)' (type 'help No such' for other possible commands) Ryan n3ssl From mm at midnighteng.com Thu Sep 27 02:23:57 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 22:23:57 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Server download to allstarlink.org In-Reply-To: <483198530.75307.1538014282925@mail.yahoo.com> References: <483198530.75307.1538014282925.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <483198530.75307.1538014282925@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2b3538ee-c24f-0def-f439-1dc3c2722863@midnighteng.com> While I am not familiar with the process since I never use it, you should be able to manually download those .conf files from the allstarlink portal. Then just place them in /etc/asterisk The script files that the menu uses should be located in /usr/local/sbin and I think 'restore-node' is what you need to run if you wish to try it manually. But from the text you sent, it looks like (if you are doing this from the ASL menu), you have not set user/password for it to log on for the download. But I am not certain of that. perhaps someone will chime in with a better answer for you. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/26/2018 10:11 PM, Ryan Gross wrote: > Hi All, > > Trying to download my server onto allstarlink.org and get this message. on cli > > No such command 'No such command '[Sep 26 22:04:22] NOTICE[474]: chan_iax2.c:9471 socket_process: Rejected connect attempt from 67.215.233.178, request '0 at allstar-sys' does not exist' (type 'help [Sep 26' for other possible commands)' (type 'help No such' for other possible commands) > > > Ryan n3ssl > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From kc7mrq at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 17:33:01 2018 From: kc7mrq at gmail.com (Corey) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:33:01 -0600 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Error when upgrading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike, This node is working without any issues. The kernel headers are already set on hold. I've run the update and upgrade elevated to root and still see the error. I installed ASL on a pi-star image a year ago. I'm not too concerned if I can't upgrade ASL since I don't see any operational errors. I just wanted to report back the group the upgrade errors I am seeing. Thanks, Corey > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:39:02 -0400 > From: Mike > To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Error when upgrading > Message-ID: <8557a9e9-c1c1-6c64-59b3-1ed94f0a9072 at midnighteng.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Have you place the kernel headers on hold as per the readme ? > > Login: repeater > Passsword: allstarlink > SSH port: 22 > User repeater has sudo privileges (sudo -s) > > There may have been updates to the operating system and AllStarLink > since this image was built. > Run the following commands after the first time you boot. > > sudo apt-mark hold raspberrypi-kernel-headers raspberrypi-kernel > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get upgrade -y > sudo reboot > > at the # prompt run "asl-menu" to setup your node. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > > > ********************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can't speak to the .img that is pre-built but I will say that if you use a vanilla version of Raspbian and go from there (following the directions of how to setup the supplicant and all the requisite things) then it should work.... https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/wireless-cli.md Of course not using the supplied image also may come with it's own challenges too... JJC N0PKT On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:50 PM Bob Pyke wrote: > Does ASL support the RPi 3 WiFi? If so, what do I need to know to set it > up. I didn?t find any info on the wiki. > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > > Sent from iPad > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Fri Sep 28 22:01:18 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 18:01:18 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ASL on RPi 3 with WiFi In-Reply-To: <32CB60A7-2B53-4D8B-A28A-5C1D88463AF1@gmail.com> References: <32CB60A7-2B53-4D8B-A28A-5C1D88463AF1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2e6077da-7913-61dc-05ae-3edb8da2bdda@midnighteng.com> ASL supports whatever IP address you obtain, however you obtain it. WIFI is not part of ASL but the operating system. Try looking for wifi on a debian 9 Pi. I ran the OS menu once, but I don't remember what it was and the wifi setup is in there. But you can find it on the web. ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/28/2018 5:50 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: > Does ASL support the RPi 3 WiFi? If so, what do I need to know to set it up. I didn?t find any info on the wiki. > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > > Sent from iPad > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > From nhardman1428 at gmail.com Sat Sep 29 12:26:14 2018 From: nhardman1428 at gmail.com (Nate Hardman) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 08:26:14 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ASL on RPi 3 with WiFi In-Reply-To: <2e6077da-7913-61dc-05ae-3edb8da2bdda@midnighteng.com> References: <32CB60A7-2B53-4D8B-A28A-5C1D88463AF1@gmail.com> <2e6077da-7913-61dc-05ae-3edb8da2bdda@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: >From the command line of ASL 1.01 ( repeater at repeater:/ $ ) type sudo wifi-setup the script will create the required files for the system for use. You may also manually edit the file to add additional wifi networks. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 6:01 PM Mike wrote: > ASL supports whatever IP address you obtain, however you obtain it. > WIFI is not part of ASL but the operating system. > Try looking for wifi on a debian 9 Pi. > I ran the OS menu once, but I don't remember what it was and the wifi > setup is in there. But you can find it on the web. > > ...mike/kb8jnm > > On 9/28/2018 5:50 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: > > Does ASL support the RPi 3 WiFi? If so, what do I need to know to set it > up. I didn?t find any info on the wiki. > > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > K6ECM > > > > Sent from iPad > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org > > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. 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I've seen this before, and the solution was always to pad it externally and get the adjustment in a more linear region of the set point. It's why I prefer the RA-40 adapters, no need to set the deviation in software. > > I am using the Repeater- builder original RIM and where I has in previous > version Dial of ASL installed for Raspberry pi the PL tone worked.out of > TXmixB. Well perhaps Kevin can chime in, but I don't think there was much different in his RIM. > > Is something different ? -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 30 19:33:34 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:33:34 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ASL on RPi 3 with WiFi In-Reply-To: References: <32CB60A7-2B53-4D8B-A28A-5C1D88463AF1@gmail.com> <2e6077da-7913-61dc-05ae-3edb8da2bdda@midnighteng.com> Message-ID: <4CD79698-AF5D-4ED4-9211-255D10451107@gmail.com> Cool, and it works! One question. What is the protocol for multiple WiFi networks? How is the selection made? Thanks, Bob K6ECM Sent from iPad > On Sep 29, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Nate Hardman wrote: > > From the command line of ASL 1.01 ( repeater at repeater:/ $ ) type sudo wifi-setup the script will create the required files for the system for use. You may also manually edit the file to add additional wifi networks. > >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 6:01 PM Mike wrote: >> ASL supports whatever IP address you obtain, however you obtain it. >> WIFI is not part of ASL but the operating system. >> Try looking for wifi on a debian 9 Pi. >> I ran the OS menu once, but I don't remember what it was and the wifi >> setup is in there. But you can find it on the web. >> >> ...mike/kb8jnm >> >> On 9/28/2018 5:50 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: >> > Does ASL support the RPi 3 WiFi? If so, what do I need to know to set it up. I didn?t find any info on the wiki. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Bob >> > K6ECM >> > >> > Sent from iPad >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > App_rpt-users mailing list >> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From nhardman1428 at gmail.com Sun Sep 30 19:40:44 2018 From: nhardman1428 at gmail.com (nhardman1428 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 15:40:44 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ASL on RPi 3 with WiFi In-Reply-To: <4CD79698-AF5D-4ED4-9211-255D10451107@gmail.com> References: <32CB60A7-2B53-4D8B-A28A-5C1D88463AF1@gmail.com> <2e6077da-7913-61dc-05ae-3edb8da2bdda@midnighteng.com> <4CD79698-AF5D-4ED4-9211-255D10451107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6FFD3D4A-1AB4-4936-A1B1-97E82387B88B@gmail.com> Manually edit the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file. WiFi-setup script created a template for three WiFi networks. Just replace SSID and PASSWORD in the file. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: > > Cool, and it works! One question. What is the protocol for multiple WiFi networks? How is the selection made? > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > > Sent from iPad > > >> On Sep 29, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Nate Hardman wrote: >> >> From the command line of ASL 1.01 ( repeater at repeater:/ $ ) type sudo wifi-setup the script will create the required files for the system for use. You may also manually edit the file to add additional wifi networks. >> >>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 6:01 PM Mike wrote: >>> ASL supports whatever IP address you obtain, however you obtain it. >>> WIFI is not part of ASL but the operating system. >>> Try looking for wifi on a debian 9 Pi. >>> I ran the OS menu once, but I don't remember what it was and the wifi >>> setup is in there. But you can find it on the web. >>> >>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>> >>> On 9/28/2018 5:50 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: >>> > Does ASL support the RPi 3 WiFi? If so, what do I need to know to set it up. I didn?t find any info on the wiki. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Bob >>> > K6ECM >>> > >>> > Sent from iPad >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > App_rpt-users mailing list >>> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> > >>> > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From k6ecm1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 30 19:52:37 2018 From: k6ecm1 at gmail.com (Bob Pyke) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:52:37 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ASL on RPi 3 with WiFi In-Reply-To: <6FFD3D4A-1AB4-4936-A1B1-97E82387B88B@gmail.com> References: <32CB60A7-2B53-4D8B-A28A-5C1D88463AF1@gmail.com> <2e6077da-7913-61dc-05ae-3edb8da2bdda@midnighteng.com> <4CD79698-AF5D-4ED4-9211-255D10451107@gmail.com> <6FFD3D4A-1AB4-4936-A1B1-97E82387B88B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Understand. I?ll ask it differently. Suppose I have 3 WiFi networks entered. How is each selected? I?m assuming it does not connect to three at once. Thanks, Bob K6ECM Sent from iPad > On Sep 30, 2018, at 12:40 PM, nhardman1428 at gmail.com wrote: > > Manually edit the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file. WiFi-setup script created a template for three WiFi networks. Just replace SSID and PASSWORD in the file. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: >> >> Cool, and it works! One question. What is the protocol for multiple WiFi networks? How is the selection made? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> K6ECM >> >> Sent from iPad >> >> >>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Nate Hardman wrote: >>> >>> From the command line of ASL 1.01 ( repeater at repeater:/ $ ) type sudo wifi-setup the script will create the required files for the system for use. You may also manually edit the file to add additional wifi networks. >>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 6:01 PM Mike wrote: >>>> ASL supports whatever IP address you obtain, however you obtain it. >>>> WIFI is not part of ASL but the operating system. >>>> Try looking for wifi on a debian 9 Pi. >>>> I ran the OS menu once, but I don't remember what it was and the wifi >>>> setup is in there. But you can find it on the web. >>>> >>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>> >>>> On 9/28/2018 5:50 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: >>>> > Does ASL support the RPi 3 WiFi? If so, what do I need to know to set it up. I didn?t find any info on the wiki. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > Bob >>>> > K6ECM >>>> > >>>> > Sent from iPad >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> > App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>> > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> > >>>> > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Nathan Hardman >>> nhardman1428 at gmail.com >>> N8THN at ARRL.NET >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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URL: From mm at midnighteng.com Sun Sep 30 20:12:11 2018 From: mm at midnighteng.com (Mike) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:12:11 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] ASL on RPi 3 with WiFi In-Reply-To: References: <32CB60A7-2B53-4D8B-A28A-5C1D88463AF1@gmail.com> <2e6077da-7913-61dc-05ae-3edb8da2bdda@midnighteng.com> <4CD79698-AF5D-4ED4-9211-255D10451107@gmail.com> <6FFD3D4A-1AB4-4936-A1B1-97E82387B88B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6eb79030-8402-fbab-2a7c-240d22549385@midnighteng.com> I believe it goes from the first with a try and then to the next until it connects, so watch the order you put them in... just think it through your situation to keep connect times shorter. Common to use #1 as the one you are most likely to connect to most of the time etc... ...mike/kb8jnm On 9/30/2018 3:52 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: > Understand. I?ll ask it differently. Suppose I have 3 WiFi networks entered. How is each selected? I?m assuming it does not connect to three at once. > > Thanks, > Bob > K6ECM > > Sent from iPad > > >> On Sep 30, 2018, at 12:40 PM, nhardman1428 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> Manually edit the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file. WiFi-setup script created a template for three WiFi networks. Just replace SSID and PASSWORD in the file. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: >>> >>> Cool, and it works! One question. What is the protocol for multiple WiFi networks? How is the selection made? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob >>> K6ECM >>> >>> Sent from iPad >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Nate Hardman wrote: >>>> >>>> From the command line of ASL 1.01 ( repeater at repeater:/ $ ) type sudo wifi-setup the script will create the required files for the system for use. You may also manually edit the file to add additional wifi networks. >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 6:01 PM Mike wrote: >>>>> ASL supports whatever IP address you obtain, however you obtain it. >>>>> WIFI is not part of ASL but the operating system. >>>>> Try looking for wifi on a debian 9 Pi. >>>>> I ran the OS menu once, but I don't remember what it was and the wifi >>>>> setup is in there. But you can find it on the web. >>>>> >>>>> ...mike/kb8jnm >>>>> >>>>> On 9/28/2018 5:50 PM, Bob Pyke wrote: >>>>>> Does ASL support the RPi 3 WiFi? If so, what do I need to know to set it up. I didn?t find any info on the wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> K6ECM >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>>>> App_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org >>>>>> http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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