see below:<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/8/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Steve Rodgers</b> <<a href="mailto:hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com">hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Eric,<br><br>See below for the answers.<br><br><br>On Sunday 08 October 2006 19:11, Eric Fort wrote:<br>> Hopefully those on the list can answer a few questions about getting<br>> app_rpt setup and what is really required.
<br>><br>> 1. why is the arib needed and what exactly does it do?<br><br>The main task of the ARIB is to separate the audio from the signaling.<br>FXS connections carry audio (AC) and signalling (DC) on the same twisted pair.
<br>The signalling and the audio need to be separated when interfacing to a radio.<br><br>><br>> 2. Why do I need 2 fxs ports for full duplex operation? my phone is full<br>> duplex when plugged into the same port why can't the audio for the radio
<br>> be?<br><br>> Come to think of it I can buy a little phone with a headset jack for<br>> next to nothing and have seperate tx (mike) and rx (speaker) audio. this<br>> just takes a 2 to 4 wire hybrid common to most phones. why do I need the
<br>> arib at all?<br>><br>> 3. Why do I need the arib at all?<br><br><br>For full-duplex repeater operation 2 FXS ports are an absolute requirement. To<br>see why, keep reading. If you are not running a repeater, onty one FXS port
<br>is needed, and a two wire connection can be used.<br><br>We prefer to set up repeaters instead of half-duplex configurations like<br>Echolink or IRLP. We feel the full duplex repeater configuration gives us<br>more control as we can issue commands while the transmitter is still
<br>transmitting, and we don't have to wait for a transmitter to unkey before<br>starting a new transmission.</blockquote><div><br>agreed, the cactus intertie which I use much of the time is full duplex and it offers many advantages.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Why the two FXS port requirement for full duplex audio? For full duplex audio<br>
(simultaneous receive and transmit) as used with repeaters, no receive audio<br>can be allowed to couple into the transmit audio, without going through<br>audio processing (muting, mixing, etc) first. The hybrid transformers used in
<br>phones don't have to be perfect full duplex devices. What I mean by perfect<br>full duplex device, is that no receive audio is discernable in the transmit<br>audio. Phones are not perfect full duplex devices, in fact, some receive
<br>audio is purposely introduced in the transmit audio to generate a sidetone.<br>Even the hybrid transformer is still not going to do an acceptable job of<br>rejecting the receive audio on the transmit port, hence the need for a 4-wire
<br>connection back to Asterisk using 2FXS ports.</blockquote><div><br>thanks for the explaination. too bad there are not 4 wire modules for the DIGIUM cards. what about using an E&M interface/port for radio interfacing (6 wire)?
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">><br>> 4. is the rbi-1 really needed? what function does it serve? I've seen
<br>> mention of using an ft-897 directly without it. How is this done? why hf<br>> only for the 897 when the 897 covers hf, 6m, 2m, and 440?<br><br>The RBI-1 is only required it you want to change the frequency of your radio
<br>remotely, and you have the Kenwood mobile radios which are compatible with<br>it.</blockquote><div><br>does app_rpt speak the cat protocol to a serial port? can an ft897 be used in a frequency agile way, just by plugging it in (to the arib board? if not what would it take to impliment this? where can I find docs about how this setup was made to work for the demo.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">><br>> 5. what about interfacing other radios used for repeaters such as micor,
<br>> maxtrack, etc.<br><br>We do it all the time. My repeaters are all Motorola Mitrek, or GE Custom MVP.<br>Other guys use Maxtracs, and Desktracs or other synthesized commerial land<br>mobile radios.</blockquote><div>
<br><br>are docs/diagrams available to show how this is done? <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> Thanks,<br>
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