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<DIV>I rest my case.... Steve R, Jim Dude, Steve H, I apologize for speaking my mind on your list... But if this Steve T "person" (and I use the term loosely) stays a member of this list... please remove my address... I refuse to have anything to do with a wanna be HAM! He has a license but not the true Spirit! In my opinion! If I have anything to share I will do it off list!</DIV>
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<DIV>Roger F. Jordan Sr. W4RFJ</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Steve Totaro" <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com> <BR><BR>> Not sure why you felt the need to double post? <BR>> <BR>> Anyways, see comments inline. <BR>> <BR>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Roger F. Jordan Sr. <W4RFJ@COMCAST.NET>wrote: <BR>> > Boy Marshall, You hit the nail on the head!!! Steve T. comes off as being <BR>> > Holier then Thou with his "I am a commercial, getting on frequencies us HAMS <BR>> > are not good enough for attitude!!!" <BR>> <BR>> Um, when did Marshall say that? How did he hit the nail on the head? <BR>> It is what it is. If you feel "not good enough" then work through it <BR>> with a real "Elmer" or your clergyman or psychologist. <BR>> <BR>> > I am new to the App-Rpt stuff… and I <BR>> > have followed the instructions for all the styles of insta
ll, Both Manual <BR>> > and EVB… when I had a problem, not one of the developers or other ham on <BR>> > the list had any issue with sharing and helping me through the hard areas!! <BR>> <BR>> I am sorry the learning curve is hard for you. Personally, I taught <BR>> myself Asterisk seven years ago, before any of these GUIs existed. I <BR>> did everything from the command line and compiled everything from <BR>> source. <BR>> <BR>> Any real Asterisk pro knows the trade-offs of GUIs and all the extra <BR>> garbage that must be installed and running to make that GUI function, <BR>> and any of those processes can bring down your server or leave a <BR>> security hole a hacker could drive a truck though. <BR>> <BR>> This EVB/ACID stuff would not be tolerated on the Asterisk lists and <BR>> without Asterisk, I am not sure what app_rpt would do for you. <BR>> <BR>> Did they help you through building a custom kernel, only loading <BR>&
gt; services and software that are needed for the task and no more? Did <BR>> they teach you how to secure your machine properly? Did they teach <BR>> you how to obtain maximum uptime on your system? These are all the <BR>> basics of the "Best Practices" when building any system. <BR>> <BR>> Great. <BR>> <BR>> > That is what HAM is all about… soooo if Steve T. wants to learn… Or even if <BR>> > he wants to share to better the project… he would be welcome to do so…. <BR>> > But Steve T.'s attitude is PISSING US HAMS OFF!! Well this HAM anyway! <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> I already posted a working HOWTO. Again, you should speak to a <BR>> clergyman or psychologist about your obvious anger disorders. <BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Steve T. This IS a HAM Community… Made By HAMS… so do us a favor… go find <BR>> > an Elmer and get your license… maybe you might get a clue as to what we are <BR>> > really doing her
e anyway! Well, we can only hope! <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> Wrong, it is an "Asterisk Repeater Controller" community. If you had <BR>> attended the app_rpt track at Astricon, you would have heard Steve <BR>> Henke speak to the commercial side of the project. I think I still <BR>> have the handout with commercial uses included. <BR>> <BR>> Anyways, if it helps you feel warm and fuzzy, I am KB3OPB, LMAO. <BR>> <BR>> I have no idea what you are doing, but I am a systems integrator and <BR>> have been doing Linux, Asterisk, MS, Cisco, and just about every kind <BR>> of phone system you can name doing consulting for many years. <BR>> <BR>> My guess is you are just playing. I do this for fun and a living. <BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Roger F. Jordan Sr. W4RFJ <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > PS. Just so Steve T. Knows… An Elmer is a Mentor! <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> My "Elmer" co-authored SNMP and c
o-founded PSINet. <BR>> <BR>> > ________________________________ <BR>> > <BR>> > From: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net <BR>> > [mailto:app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Marshall Oldham <BR>> > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:11 PM <BR>> > To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net <BR>> > Subject: [App_rpt] Asterisk segfaults after installation <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Steve, <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>This is not a HAM community, it is an Asterisk based repeater community. I <BR>> >> have it in use for commercial non HAM operations that you as a HAM are <BR>> >> restricted from. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > So, why in your original post did you state this? <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > "Is it because HAM people are assumed to be dumb? Couldn't a shell script <BR>> > be w
ritten to pull down known versions of zaptel/dahdi, libpri, and Jim's <BR>> > branch, and install?" <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Seems to me you were referring to the "HAM" people. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>As far as money goes, yeah, the defunct Dingotel company probably put in <BR>> >> most of the effort and money for the idea to be ripped off. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Your reaching now! <GRIN>Boy you sure like pulling things out of thin air. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>The URI is most likely infringing on a >patent or several but that is <BR>> >> besides the point. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > If you are so worried about infringement, then why are you using the URI? <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Sounds like you are talking ou
t of both sides of your mouth. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>I am precipitating the fix, not creating the problem. What problem have I <BR>> >> created? Again, why so much pushback? <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > If you are "precipitating" a fix, why are you lasing out on the remailer <BR>> > about it? <BR>> > <BR>> > Simply post a fix with the information on the remailer. That's all you need <BR>> > to do. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>I paid for three URIs, that was in U$D, so much for free. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > You paid for hardware NOT software. Do you know the difference??? <BR>> > <BR>> > When you bought the URI hardware, it did not say anything about FREE <BR>> > software support! <BR>> > <BR>> > When you buy a Motorola radio, they do not giv
e you the programming software <BR>> > for free? <BR>> > <BR>> > No, you have to buy it. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>Now I expect to be able to us that hardware on the OS/platform of my <BR>> >> choosing. Am I out off line? <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > And you can! You will just need to figure it out for yourself! <BR>> > <BR>> > All OS platforms are not supported and there have never been a claim that <BR>> > they are! <BR>> > <BR>> > Buying hardware does not make you entitled to FREE software support for <BR>> > whatever OS or idea you can come up with in your own mind. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>Since when is asking what the logic of be corralled into anything <BR>> >> complaining? If there is a logical answer rather than vague answers such as <BR>> >> "a
labor of love" and "difficult >to do", then I am open to hearing it, <BR>> >> otherwise it is propaganda to someone's agenda. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Well your original post did not come across as a question of logic, it came <BR>> > across as complaining. <BR>> > <BR>> > Maybe you need to learn to express yourself better in email when you post <BR>> > messages on a remailer. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>I logically want to be clear which it is. <BR>> > <BR>> >> <BR>> > <BR>> >>HOWTO: <BR>> > <BR>> >>1. Install your favorite flavor of Linux and configure it your way, <BR>> >> optimize your way, secure your way. <BR>> > <BR>> >>2. Install prerequisites for Asterisk <BR>> > <BR>> >>3. Go into /usr/src directory on your linux box # cd /usr/src <BR>> > <BR>> >>4. b
) Download the latest SVN stable release of libpri and zaptel and <BR>> >> Jim's branch # svn checkout >http://svn.digium.com/svn/libpri/branches/1.4 <BR>> >> libpri-1.4 # svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/branches/1.4 <BR>> >> zaptel-1.4 # svn >checkout <BR>> >> ?http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/jdixon/chan_usbradio-1.4/ <BR>> > <BR>> >>asterisk_usbradio <BR>> > <BR>> >>5. cd into each of the above directories and read any READMEs or similar <BR>> >> all caps files. <BR>> > <BR>> >>6. cd into libpri-1.4 <BR>> > <BR>> >># make clean <BR>> > <BR>> >># make && make install <BR>> > <BR>> >>7. cd into zaptel-1.4 <BR>> > <BR>> >># make clean <BR>> > <BR>> >># make && make install <BR>> > <BR>> >>8. cd into asterisks_usbradio <BR>> > <BR>> >># make clean <
BR>> > <BR>> >># ./configure <BR>> > <BR>> >># "make menuselect" and make the selections you want. <BR>> > <BR>> >># make && make install <BR>> > <BR>> >>9. Edit required files <BR>> > <BR>> >>10. Start Asterisk on the console with core dump on and a bit of verbose # <BR>> >> asterisk –vvvvvvvvvvvgc <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >>Someone please test this as I have, and post to the websites pushing EVB or <BR>> >> ACID. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > How about you test it and post it to your own website! <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > This will be my last reply regarding this subject. I am not wasting anymore <BR>> > of my time with <BR>> > <BR>> > your "logical questions" (rants) on this email list. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>&g
t; > <BR>> > 73 <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Marshall –ke6pcv <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________ <BR>> > App_rpt mailing list <BR>> > App_rpt@lists.illiana.net <BR>> > http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> App_rpt mailing list <BR>> App_rpt@lists.illiana.net <BR>> http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>