OK it worked, I was using a disc with an older version and somehow got it mixed up with the latest and greatest version. I popped that thing in there and took it like a champ.<br><br>I'll try installing the limey version at a later time. Thanks guys de kilo-india-6-elle-n ekx<br>
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1. acid Install (Orland Lopez)<br>
2. Re: acid Install (Doug Bade)<br>
3. 12.5 kHz repeaters support (Jann Traschewski)<br>
4. Re: 12.5 kHz repeaters support (Doug Bade)<br>
5. Re: 12.5 kHz repeaters support (Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras)<br>
6. Re: 12.5 kHz repeaters support (Doug Bade)<br>
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:17:12 -0800<br>
From: Orland Lopez <<a href="mailto:ki6lnx@gmail.com">ki6lnx@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] acid Install<br>
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Hello, Everyone, I have a question that i saw it in the past emails<br>
<br>
I am trying to install the image on the intel D945GCLF motherboard, it<br>
will install and tried to go to the Phase1 post install but fails,<br>
instead, it gets me the log in prompt, and I have not set a root password<br>
at that point. I read something about it last year and cant seem to find<br>
it in the archives. as hard as Im trying I cant remember Can you guys<br>
refresh my mind . I cant remember the default passwords when this happens<br>
so any help is really appreciated.<br>
<br>
<br>
Gracias y 73's<br>
Hasta la Vista<br>
KI6LNX<br>
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:51:03 -0500<br>
From: "Doug Bade" <<a href="mailto:kd8b@thebades.net">kd8b@thebades.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] acid Install<br>
To: "'Orland Lopez'" <<a href="mailto:ki6lnx@gmail.com">ki6lnx@gmail.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a>><br>
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I answered directly but the ethernet chip in the D945GCLF board is not<br>
recognized by CentOS base install yet.. so it fails to connect to the<br>
internet, hence the install aborts..<br>
<br>
You need an Ethernet device for the rest of the install and do one of the<br>
following.. I prefer to just install with a usb ehternet dongle in line and<br>
pull it later.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2 choices.. add a pci above board to finish install or add a usb ethernet<br>
like Linksys that is recognized. after all the OS updates are done you can<br>
switch to the original Ethernet as the drivers for it will be added in the<br>
update/upgrade loads.<br>
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<br>
Doug<br>
<br>
KD8B<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a>]<br>
On Behalf Of Orland Lopez<br>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:17 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] acid Install<br>
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<br>
Hello, Everyone, I have a question that i saw it in the past emails<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I am trying to install the image on the intel D945GCLF motherboard, it<br>
will install and tried to go to the Phase1 post install but fails,<br>
instead, it gets me the log in prompt, and I have not set a root password at<br>
that point. I read something about it last year and cant seem to find it<br>
in the archives. as hard as Im trying I cant remember Can you guys refresh<br>
my mind . I cant remember the default passwords when this happens so any<br>
help is really appreciated.<br>
<br>
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Gracias y 73's<br>
Hasta la Vista<br>
KI6LNX<br>
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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:50:52 +0100<br>
From: "Jann Traschewski" <<a href="mailto:jann@gmx.de">jann@gmx.de</a>><br>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support<br>
To: "'app_rpt mailing list'" <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a>><br>
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Hello,<br>
<br>
my 12.5 kHz repeater system has a long noise tail compared to my 20 kHz<br>
repeater system. Both use the USB URI with flat audio and carrier from dsp<br>
in carrier squelch mode.<br>
<br>
Moreover the rxnoise tuning comes with a warning:<br>
<br>
db0fox*CLI> radio tune rxnoise<br>
tune rxnoise maxtries=12, target=27000, tolerance=2750<br>
tries=0, setting=2, meas=15368<br>
tries=1, setting=4, meas=21645<br>
tries=2, setting=5, meas=26274<br>
tries=3, setting=5, meas=25744<br>
tries=4, setting=5, meas=26047<br>
tries=5, setting=5, meas=26010<br>
tries=6, setting=5, meas=26393<br>
DONE tries=6, setting=312, meas=26393, sqnoise=5990<br>
INFO: RX INPUT ADJUST SUCCESS.<br>
WARNING: Insufficient high frequency noise from receiver.<br>
WARNING: Rx input point may be de-emphasized and not flat.<br>
usbradio.conf setting of 'carrierfrom=dsp' not recommended.<br>
<br>
New repeater systems in germany are now limited to 12.5 kHz. Would be nice<br>
to build them with the Asterisk/app_rpt system. Are there any plans to<br>
adjust the code for 12.5 kHz systems?<br>
<br>
I'll have a talk about the Asterisk/app_rpt system in two weeks at a<br>
conference in germany.<br>
<br>
Tnx,<br>
73,<br>
Jann<br>
<br>
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Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: <a href="mailto:jann@gmx.de">jann@gmx.de</a><br>
Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, <a href="http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn" target="_blank">http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn</a>, ICQ UIN: 4130182<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:16:10 -0500<br>
From: "Doug Bade" <<a href="mailto:kd8b@thebades.net">kd8b@thebades.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support<br>
To: "'Jann Traschewski'" <<a href="mailto:jann@gmx.de">jann@gmx.de</a>>, "'app_rpt mailing list'"<br>
<<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a>><br>
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One of the other distros for getting app_rpt running supports a narrowband<br>
toggle function. It is from <a href="http://www.xelatec.com/" target="_blank">www.xelatec.com/</a>. They have a "switch" in the sw<br>
that toggles something in the dsp for 12k5 use. I played with it as our 900<br>
mhz band is mostly 12k5 equipment these days... It did work.. However.. in<br>
general The audio pickup point in the discriminator chain has more to do<br>
with getting enough white noise I think.. I had to play around some in the<br>
900 gear but found points suitable for either distro..<br>
<br>
Doug<br>
KD8B<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a>]<br>
On Behalf Of Jann Traschewski<br>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:51 AM<br>
To: 'app_rpt mailing list'<br>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
my 12.5 kHz repeater system has a long noise tail compared to my 20 kHz<br>
repeater system. Both use the USB URI with flat audio and carrier from dsp<br>
in carrier squelch mode.<br>
<br>
Moreover the rxnoise tuning comes with a warning:<br>
<br>
db0fox*CLI> radio tune rxnoise<br>
tune rxnoise maxtries=12, target=27000, tolerance=2750<br>
tries=0, setting=2, meas=15368<br>
tries=1, setting=4, meas=21645<br>
tries=2, setting=5, meas=26274<br>
tries=3, setting=5, meas=25744<br>
tries=4, setting=5, meas=26047<br>
tries=5, setting=5, meas=26010<br>
tries=6, setting=5, meas=26393<br>
DONE tries=6, setting=312, meas=26393, sqnoise=5990<br>
INFO: RX INPUT ADJUST SUCCESS.<br>
WARNING: Insufficient high frequency noise from receiver.<br>
WARNING: Rx input point may be de-emphasized and not flat.<br>
usbradio.conf setting of 'carrierfrom=dsp' not recommended.<br>
<br>
New repeater systems in germany are now limited to 12.5 kHz. Would be nice<br>
to build them with the Asterisk/app_rpt system. Are there any plans to<br>
adjust the code for 12.5 kHz systems?<br>
<br>
I'll have a talk about the Asterisk/app_rpt system in two weeks at a<br>
conference in germany.<br>
<br>
Tnx,<br>
73,<br>
Jann<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jann Traschewski, Drosselstr.1, D-90513 Zirndorf, Germany<br>
Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: <a href="mailto:jann@gmx.de">jann@gmx.de</a><br>
Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, <a href="http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn" target="_blank">http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn</a>, ICQ UIN: 4130182<br>
<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:21:54 +0100<br>
From: "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <<a href="mailto:ralph@radio-link.net">ralph@radio-link.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support<br>
To: "Doug Bade" <<a href="mailto:kd8b@thebades.net">kd8b@thebades.net</a>>, "'Jann Traschewski'"<br>
<<a href="mailto:jann@gmx.de">jann@gmx.de</a>>, "'app_rpt mailing list'" <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:NKEEIFACLPLHPELJILGKIEMJCAAA.ralph@radio-link.net">NKEEIFACLPLHPELJILGKIEMJCAAA.ralph@radio-link.net</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
> mhz band is mostly 12k5 equipment these days... It did work.. However.. in<br>
> general The audio pickup point in the discriminator chain has more to do<br>
> with getting enough white noise I think.. I had to play around some in the<br>
> 900 gear but found points suitable for either distro..<br>
<br>
Please note that this is a commercial grade radio, no searching for a<br>
discriminator tap, but using the flat out that is provided by the<br>
manufacturer. Those radios should remain exchangable without modifying them,<br>
so this is not really an option :-) I will definetely not start soldering<br>
thin wires into my repeater radios, as I rely on direct replacement with a<br>
brand new radio in case of failure.<br>
<br>
> Doug<br>
> KD8B<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
Ralph.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
Message: 6<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:54:51 -0500<br>
From: "Doug Bade" <<a href="mailto:kd8b@thebades.net">kd8b@thebades.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support<br>
To: "'Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras'" <<a href="mailto:ralph@radio-link.net">ralph@radio-link.net</a>>, "'Jann<br>
Traschewski'" <<a href="mailto:jann@gmx.de">jann@gmx.de</a>>, "'app_rpt mailing list'"<br>
<<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a>><br>
Message-ID: <002501cac122$6c7dc0f0$457942d0$@net><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>
<br>
I do understand, however because it has a commercial flat audio point does<br>
not mean it has the appropriate noise component for the software to detect .<br>
The manufacturer does not necessarily allow much white noise content on a<br>
flat audio line... as flat audio by definition is not discriminator as a<br>
discriminator is not flat unless the received signal is flat and normally it<br>
is pre-emphasized...<br>
<br>
So to be flat it is processed.. and white noise may be stripped.<br>
<br>
The white noise we are talking about is in the audio band above 3khz.. up to<br>
maybe 6-7 khz.. you might sweep your receiver there for flat audio and watch<br>
that with a scope.. flat in band audio does not mean flat to 6khz...<br>
<br>
If the chosen radios do not have sufficient white noise the only real option<br>
is to add COR or CAS detection... as I do not think it is a wideband<br>
narrowband issue you are seeing..<br>
<br>
The way to test that is see if the same radios align suitably in wideband<br>
mode assuming they can be programmed to test... If the URI cannot find an<br>
answer there.. it is most likely just a bad spot to pick noise from...<br>
<br>
What I will also add is the level output is different on many radios (<br>
especially in 12k5) and in my case I had to play with external padding as<br>
well as the 20db gain/pad switch to get levels into a range the rx tuning<br>
software and hardware could deal with... The internal resistors of the URI<br>
are designed for a certain working range and load..<br>
<br>
In most wideband and narrowband installs where I use the URI ( 6<br>
installations I am involved in) , I had to go to the capacitive-ly coupled<br>
input as DC component on the rx line had adverse effects on the URI's<br>
ability to function and calibrate.<br>
<br>
<br>
Doug<br>
KD8B<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras [mailto:<a href="mailto:ralph@radio-link.net">ralph@radio-link.net</a>]<br>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:22 AM<br>
To: Doug Bade; 'Jann Traschewski'; 'app_rpt mailing list'<br>
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
> mhz band is mostly 12k5 equipment these days... It did work.. However.. in<br>
> general The audio pickup point in the discriminator chain has more to do<br>
> with getting enough white noise I think.. I had to play around some in the<br>
> 900 gear but found points suitable for either distro..<br>
<br>
Please note that this is a commercial grade radio, no searching for a<br>
discriminator tap, but using the flat out that is provided by the<br>
manufacturer. Those radios should remain exchangable without modifying them,<br>
so this is not really an option :-) I will definetely not start soldering<br>
thin wires into my repeater radios, as I rely on direct replacement with a<br>
brand new radio in case of failure.<br>
<br>
> Doug<br>
> KD8B<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
Ralph.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:07:59 +0100<br>
From: "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <<a href="mailto:ralph@radio-link.net">ralph@radio-link.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:NKEEIFACLPLHPELJILGKEEMKCAAA.ralph@radio-link.net">NKEEIFACLPLHPELJILGKEEMKCAAA.ralph@radio-link.net</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"<br>
<br>
> I do understand, however because it has a commercial flat audio point does<br>
> not mean it has the appropriate noise component for the software<br>
> to detect .<br>
<br>
It has, when switched to 25 KHz, but the filtering of course also narrows<br>
audo bandwidth.<br>
<br>
> The white noise we are talking about is in the audio band above<br>
> 3khz.. up to<br>
> maybe 6-7 khz.. you might sweep your receiver there for flat<br>
> audio and watch<br>
> that with a scope.. flat in band audio does not mean flat to 6khz...<br>
<br>
6 KHz is to much fur 12.5 KHz, of course.<br>
<br>
> The way to test that is see if the same radios align suitably in wideband<br>
> mode assuming they can be programmed to test... If the URI cannot find an<br>
> answer there.. it is most likely just a bad spot to pick noise from...<br>
<br>
Like Jann already had mentioned, in wide band it is just fine. There can not<br>
be very much additional filtering, as I can pass P25 and D-Star through this<br>
output.<br>
<br>
This leads to a topic that I at least dropped here for two times, but with<br>
no response.<br>
I would like to route the flat audio from DC level up to some KHz through<br>
the PC, to allow P25 and D-Star through it. No codec, no DSP processing<br>
(maybe even regenerating the digital signals in a later version), no<br>
filtering. No LP, no HP. Nothing. Is there a possibility to enable this?<br>
Maybe even to route this over the internet, to allow linking of multi mode<br>
repeaters? It would be a great feature to have all the asterisk features,<br>
all the tone decoding stuff, DSP squelch - but without touching the audio.<br>
<br>
> What I will also add is the level output is different on many radios (<br>
> especially in 12k5) and in my case I had to play with external padding as<br>
> well as the 20db gain/pad switch to get levels into a range the rx tuning<br>
> software and hardware could deal with... The internal resistors of the URI<br>
> are designed for a certain working range and load..<br>
<br>
AFAIR the Motorolas are around 400 or 500 mV, but I am not sure.<br>
<br>
> Doug<br>
> KD8B<br>
<br>
With best regards<br>
<br>
Ralph.<br>
<br>
<br>
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