I like it.... may have to have some made...hihi ;)<br clear="all">--<br>Thanks in Advance<br><br> Bob Brown, WØNQX<br><br> Kansas City Metro Area<br><br> <a href="http://sm0kenet.net/" target="_blank">http://sm0kenet.net</a><br>
<br> <a href="http://byrg.net/" target="_blank">http://byrg.net</a><br><br> <a href="http://kcdstar.byrg.net/" target="_blank">http://kcdstar.byrg.net</a><br><br>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?<br><font color="#888888"><br>
Its not how many watts you have, <br>its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK</font><br>
<p>--</p><br><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:12, Steve Gladden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com">steve@michiganbroadband.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Humor: <a href="http://stuff.michiganbroadband.com/fobtee.jpg" target="_blank">http://stuff.michiganbroadband.com/fobtee.jpg</a><br>
If you'd like a nonproductive 20 second diversion.<br>I just might hve one made.<br><br>;-)<br>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class="h5"><br><br><br>> Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it<br>> not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and<br>> running with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with<br>
> my node under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to<br>> not phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to<br>> get an HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft<br>
> K2/100. Seems to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as<br>> it's just ascii text over serial, but would need some direction as to what<br>> to modifry (break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with<br>
> either a CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs.<br>> --<br>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA<br>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - WØNQX wrote:<br>
><br>>> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken<br>>> here.<br>>><br>>> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them<br>>> with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the<br>
>> DMK device!<br>>><br>>> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a<br>>> great long time and they work quite well, last long time.<br>>><br>>> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do<br>
>> it on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.<br>>><br>>> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and<br>>> still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have<br>
>> a dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of<br>>> ham radio!)<br>>><br>>> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many 10+<br>>> fobs i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would<br>
>> have many usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some<br>>> were. so i gambled with my $$, win some loose some. no big deal.<br>>><br>>> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the<br>
>> app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have<br>>> those skills yet.<br>>><br>>> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work<br>>> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where<br>
>> i can study up on this.<br>>> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.<br>>> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as<br>>> the cm108 device.<br>>><br>
>> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in<br>>> fact several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to<br>>> test with . just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start<br>
>> playing.... to come up with a solution.<br>>> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us<br>>> if it is possible to change the code for these units.<br>>><br>>> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a<br>
>> system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes<br>>> an interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.<br>>><br>>> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this<br>
>> list<br>>> these folks in particular:<br>>> w9sh<br>>> n4irs<br>>> wb6nil<br>>> kd8b<br>>> wa6zft<br>>> and many others.<br>>><br>>> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....<br>
>><br>>><br>>> --<br>>> Thanks in Advance<br>>><br>>> Bob Brown, WØNQX<br>>><br>>> Kansas City Metro Area<br>>><br>>> Its not how many watts you have,<br>>> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK<br>
>> --<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <<a href="mailto:w0otm@w0otm.com">w0otm@w0otm.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.<br>
>><br>>> What is the obsession with these FOBs? This community has a great<br>>> source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize<br>>> them. DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do. For<br>
>> all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a<br>>> CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a<br>>> URI, go run an EchoStink node!<br>>><br>>> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks<br>
>><br>>> md<br>>><br>>><br>>> From: "Bob Brown - WØNQX" <<a href="mailto:bbrown@byrg.net">bbrown@byrg.net</a>><br>>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM<br>>> To: "Jim Duuuude" <<a href="mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com">telesistant@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question<br>>><br>>><br>>> Jim<br>>><br>>> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,<br>>> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(<br>
>><br>>> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.<br>>><br>>> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of<br>>> the "clones" out there.<br>>> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual<br>
>> hong-knog souces.<br>>><br>>> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem<br>>> they are just cluttering up the desk...<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>
>> --<br>>> Thanks in Advance<br>>><br>>> Bob Brown, WØNQX<br>>><br>>> Kansas City Metro Area<br>>><br>>> <a href="http://sm0kenet.net/" target="_blank">http://sm0kenet.net</a><br>
>><br>>> <a href="http://byrg.net/" target="_blank">http://byrg.net</a><br>>><br>>> <a href="http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net/" target="_blank">http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net</a><br>>><br>>> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?<br>
>><br>>> Its not how many watts you have,<br>>> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK<br>>> --<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <<a href="mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com">telesistant@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>>> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still<br>>> very much<br>>> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as<br>>> pre-made USB soundcards<br>
>> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such<br>>> things. The CM-108<br>>> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC<br>>> found in such devices<br>
>> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to<br>>> mention VERY good<br>>> value!).<br>>><br>>> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some<br>
>> new, different,<br>>> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty<br>>> much just random??<br>>> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps<br>
>> it would be worthwhile<br>>> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this<br>>> application.<br>>><br>>> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.<br>
>><br>>> JIM WB6NIL<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400<br>>><br>>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question<br>>> > From: <a href="mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com">steve@michiganbroadband.com</a><br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com">telesistant@hotmail.com</a><br>>> > CC: <a href="mailto:n3fe@repeater.net">n3fe@repeater.net</a>; <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
>><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn<br>>> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.<br>>> ><br>>> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested<br>
>> > & approved sound devices eventually?<br>>> ><br>>> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?<br>>> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually<br>
>> find.<br>>> ><br>>> > Just curious & thanks.<br>>> ><br>>> > Steve<br>>> > N8LBV<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>
>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular<br>>> sound<br>>> > > cards.<br>>> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are<br>
>> inconsistent.<br>>> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to<br>>> radio<br>>> > > systems.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > JIM WB6NIL<br>>> > ><br>
>> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400<br>>> > > From: <a href="mailto:n3fe@repeater.net">n3fe@repeater.net</a><br>>> > > To: <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
>> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question<br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>
>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a<br>
>> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers<br>>> and<br>>> > > none of<br>>> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.<br>
>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it<br>>> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so<br>
>> that<br>>> > > we<br>>> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the<br>>> expensive<br>>> > > quad<br>>> > > card?<br>>> > ><br>
>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > Corey N3FE<br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > --<br>>> > > This message has been checked and is believed to be clean.<br>
>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > ><br>>> > > _______________________________________________<br>>> > > App_rpt-users mailing list<br>>> > > <a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@qrvc.com">App_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
>> > > <a href="http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>>> > > --<br>>> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and<br>
>> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is<br>>> > > believed to be clean.<br>>> > ><br>>> > > _______________________________________________<br>>> > > App_rpt-users mailing list<br>
>> > > <a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@qrvc.com">App_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>>> > > <a href="http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>
>> > ><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.<br>>> > "Always Connected"<br>>> ><br>>> > (734)527-7150<br>>> ><br>>> > Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811<br>
>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > --<br>>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and<br>>> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is<br>>> > believed to be clean.<br>>> ><br>
>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> App_rpt-users mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@qrvc.com">App_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>>> <a href="http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> App_rpt-users mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@qrvc.com">App_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
>> <a href="http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> App_rpt-users mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@qrvc.com">App_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>> <a href="http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>><br>> --<br>
> This message has been scanned for viruses and<br>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is<br>> believed to be clean.<br>><br><br><br>Michigan Broadband Systems Inc.<br>"Always Connected"<br><br>(734)527-7150<br>
<br>Steve's cellphone: (734)904-1811<br><br><br>--<br>This message has been scanned for viruses and<br>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is<br>believed to be clean.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
App_rpt-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@qrvc.com">App_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br><a href="http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>