My two cents (well probably more like 1/2 cent):<br><br>Use what works for your particular application :) <br><br>I gladly spent the $80 for the URI from DMK and it's great, that was my choice because I didn't have time to find and configure a CM108 based device and I wanted to get out of the gate running quickly. I've actually bought two total and I have -0- complaints about them, as I'm sure anyone will attest. <br>
<br>But, as Roger put it below, this is ham radio, experimentation is encouraged and allowed, no matter how much money it costs in the end!!! Fun is the ultimate goal. <br><br>Have fun and play nicely folks...<br><br>de K1LNX<br>
Stephen<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Roger F. Jordan Sr. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:w4rfj@comcast.net">w4rfj@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
My hat is off to the experimenters... But I have a problem with any ham<br>
being referred to as CHEAP! Ham radio is a hobby... and If you want to go<br>
out and spend your hard earned cash for a Cadillac... by all means do it!!<br>
Some of us like to build and play... so let us have our fun!! Would you<br>
think it proper if I called you stuck up because you do not care to get into<br>
the nuts and bolts!!<br>
<br>
My final statement... and my Apology to the Steve's and Jim and everyone<br>
here...<br>
<br>
I have found New-Egg to deliver what they advertise... Just go to<br>
<a href="http://newegg.com" target="_blank">newegg.com</a> and do a search for cm108... they go for about $17 plus<br>
shipping... They have the caps installed so that eliminates that cost!<br>
<br>
Best 73 to all!<br>
<br>
Roger W4RFJ<br>
<div class="im"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a>]<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:37 PM<br>
To: app_rpt mailing list<br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question<br>
<br>
Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it<br>
not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and running<br>
with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with my node<br>
under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to not<br>
phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to get an<br>
HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft K2/100. Seems<br>
to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as it's just ascii<br>
text over serial, but would need some direction as to what to modifry<br>
(break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with either a<br>
CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs.<br>
--<br>
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA<br>
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - WØNQX wrote:<br>
<br>
> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken<br>
here.<br>
><br>
> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them<br>
with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the DMK<br>
device!<br>
><br>
> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a<br>
great long time and they work quite well, last long time.<br>
><br>
> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do it<br>
on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.<br>
><br>
> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and<br>
still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have a<br>
dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of ham<br>
radio!)<br>
><br>
> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many 10+ fobs<br>
i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would have many<br>
usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some were. so i<br>
gambled with my $$, win some loose some. no big deal.<br>
><br>
> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the<br>
app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have those<br>
skills yet.<br>
><br>
> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work<br>
> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where i<br>
can study up on this.<br>
> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.<br>
> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as<br>
> the cm108 device.<br>
><br>
> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in fact<br>
several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to test<br>
with . just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start playing.... to<br>
come up with a solution.<br>
> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us if<br>
it is possible to change the code for these units.<br>
><br>
> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a<br>
system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes an<br>
interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.<br>
><br>
> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this<br>
list<br>
> these folks in particular:<br>
> w9sh<br>
> n4irs<br>
> wb6nil<br>
> kd8b<br>
> wa6zft<br>
> and many others.<br>
><br>
> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Thanks in Advance<br>
><br>
> Bob Brown, WØNQX<br>
><br>
> Kansas City Metro Area<br>
><br>
> Its not how many watts you have,<br>
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK<br>
> --<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <<a href="mailto:w0otm@w0otm.com">w0otm@w0otm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.<br>
><br>
> What is the obsession with these FOBs? This community has a great source<br>
of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them. DMK<br>
doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do. For all you who<br>
have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much<br>
money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an<br>
EchoStink node!<br>
><br>
> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks<br>
><br>
> md<br>
><br>
><br>
> From: "Bob Brown - WØNQX" <<a href="mailto:bbrown@byrg.net">bbrown@byrg.net</a>><br>
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM<br>
> To: "Jim Duuuude" <<a href="mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com">telesistant@hotmail.com</a>><br>
><br>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question<br>
><br>
><br>
> Jim<br>
><br>
> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,<br>
> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(<br>
><br>
> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.<br>
><br>
> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of<br>
the "clones" out there.<br>
> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog<br>
souces.<br>
><br>
> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem<br>
> they are just cluttering up the desk...<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Thanks in Advance<br>
><br>
> Bob Brown, WØNQX<br>
><br>
> Kansas City Metro Area<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://sm0kenet.net" target="_blank">http://sm0kenet.net</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://byrg.net" target="_blank">http://byrg.net</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net" target="_blank">http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net</a><br>
><br>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?<br>
><br>
> Its not how many watts you have,<br>
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK<br>
> --<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <<a href="mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com">telesistant@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still<br>
very much<br>
> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as<br>
pre-made USB soundcards<br>
> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such<br>
things. The CM-108<br>
> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found<br>
in such devices<br>
> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to<br>
mention VERY good<br>
> value!).<br>
><br>
> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some<br>
new, different,<br>
> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much<br>
just random??<br>
> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps<br>
it would be worthwhile<br>
> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this<br>
application.<br>
><br>
> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.<br>
><br>
> JIM WB6NIL<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400<br>
><br>
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question<br>
> > From: <a href="mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com">steve@michiganbroadband.com</a><br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com">telesistant@hotmail.com</a><br>
> > CC: <a href="mailto:n3fe@repeater.net">n3fe@repeater.net</a>; <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn<br>
> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.<br>
> ><br>
> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested<br>
> > & approved sound devices eventually?<br>
> ><br>
> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?<br>
> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually<br>
find.<br>
> ><br>
> > Just curious & thanks.<br>
> ><br>
> > Steve<br>
> > N8LBV<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular<br>
sound<br>
> > > cards.<br>
> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.<br>
> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio<br>
> > > systems.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > JIM WB6NIL<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400<br>
> > > From: <a href="mailto:n3fe@repeater.net">n3fe@repeater.net</a><br>
> > > To: <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a<br>
> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and<br>
> > > none of<br>
> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it<br>
> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so<br>
that<br>
> > > we<br>
> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive<br>
> > > quad<br>
> > > card?<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Corey N3FE<br>
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