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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is already set at 0. I am going to go play with some
resistors now and seeif I can lower the audio on the input….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Corey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jim Duuuude
[mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Corey Dean N3FE; jrorke@cogeco.ca; app_rpt mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>try setting the rxboost=0 it looks like
your signal is very loud and is overloading<br>
the A/D.<br>
<br>
JIM<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: n3fe@repeater.net<br>
To: jrorke@cogeco.ca; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com<br>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:54:11 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jon,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I just got done checking things out. The same audio that
is located on Volume Squelch hi is located on the backplane. I just
traced the circuit back and double checked it with my VOM. Here is a link
to the file I used many years ago. <a
href="http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf</a></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I fail every time I run the RX squelch detect from
radio-tune-menu. Here are the results for that…</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tune rxnoise maxtries=12, target=27000, tolerance=2750</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tries=0, setting=2, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tries=1, setting=2, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>tries=2, setting=2, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>tries=3, setting=2, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>tries=4, setting=1, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tries=5, setting=1, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tries=6, setting=1, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>tries=7, setting=1, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tries=8, setting=1, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tries=9, setting=1, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tries=10, setting=1, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tries=11, setting=1, meas=32767</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>DONE tries=12, setting=63, meas=32767, sqnoise=20936</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ERROR: RX INPUT ADJUST FAILED.</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If I set the squelch setting low manually I can hear the squelch
tail everytime I unkey. If I have someone with a noisy but legible signal
it just won’t hold. I can go to cas and it will work just fine.
Could it be the PL detect that is holding it from digging?</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Any other suggestions?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Corey N3FE</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jon Rorke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> APP_RPT_Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I
think the audio out lines on the back plane are de-emphasized or flat to 3k
then it rolls off. Either way In this case that is not what you want. If you
were connecting to a hardware controller and using the cas/RX mute then it
works just fine. <br>
In the case of using DSP squelch and DSP L decode by the fob/ URI it must be
connected to the Discriminator. You could also set your node to speaker
out instead of flat and use the USB for the cas connection. That should
work too. <br>
<br>
I personally like using the DSP Squelch and DSP tone as it is very quick - no
squelch busts! That is... if you have the RX squelch set right. <span
class=ecxmoz-smiley-s3>;-) </span><br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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On 10/6/2010 9:19 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is making some sense now. I did pull off the back
plane but I never traced it back to see where exactly it was coming from.
Many moons ago I followed the Scom 7k to Master II hookup info. I have
always just used that same spot on all other controllers in the past without an
issue and excellent audio. I will give that a try tonight. I know what
pin you are referring to. It would be the same pin that you would use in
a mobile conversion and it is also available where the stock PL board would
plug in. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks and I will give it a try this evening!</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Corey</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com">mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Rorke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> APP_RPT_Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I
have set up a Master II repeater station in full duplex mode using a URI for
dsp squelch and dsp pl decode and it works just fine. The main thing is to
connect it to the volume/squelch hi (raw discriminator) or you will have
problems. The master II should be able to give you 1V p-p output with 1k tone @
3k dev on the volumw/squelch hi which is not available on the back plane. You
have to pull it off one of the connectors on the drawer. Have to check my notes
on what pin. <br>
<br>
Any way I have a couple of units working in this manner with no problems.<br>
<br>
Jon VA3RQ<br>
<br>
On 10/6/2010 7:46 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>So
I have been using a GE Master II repeater (actual repeater, not a converted
mobile) for the allstar node in full duplex repeater mode. I noticed it
just doesn’t dig too well when using the fob to decode the PL. I have a
maxtrac on another fob and that will dig into the noise great. As a test
I hooked up a ts32 and ran the output of that in the CAS/COR on the fob and it
worked great! I want to try to get the built in decoder working correctly
though. Another friend of mine is also running a GE Master II and he is
having the same problem. When we run the rxnoise level from either the
radio-tune-menu or using the radio tune command from asterisk it always
fails. Anyone have any suggestions on a way to resolve this?
I have another use for my hardware pl decoder so I would like to
get the USB Frob working correctly!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Corey
N3FE <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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