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Ok what level do you have with a full quieting signal 1k tone with 3
k deviation?<br>
there should be no problem if there is ~ 1 v p-p.<br>
<br>
You can try setting thy rx boost off as Jim suggested if its too
high.<br>
<br>
The out put can be adjusted on a pot in the discriminator box on the
IF board too.<br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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On 10/6/2010 9:13 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
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try setting the rxboost=0 it looks like your signal is very loud
and is overloading<br>
the A/D.<br>
<br>
JIM<br>
<br>
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To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jrorke@cogeco.ca">jrorke@cogeco.ca</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:54:11 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II<br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jon,</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
just got done checking things
out. The same audio that is located on Volume Squelch hi is
located on
the backplane. I just traced the circuit back and double
checked it with
my VOM. Here is a link to the file I used many years ago.
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf</a></span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
fail every time I run the RX
squelch detect from radio-tune-menu. Here are the results
for that…</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tune
rxnoise maxtries=12,
target=27000, tolerance=2750</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=0,
setting=2, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=1,
setting=2, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=2,
setting=2, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=3,
setting=2, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=4,
setting=1, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=5,
setting=1, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=6,
setting=1, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=7,
setting=1, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=8,
setting=1, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=9,
setting=1, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=10,
setting=1, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=11,
setting=1, meas=32767</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">DONE
tries=12, setting=63,
meas=32767, sqnoise=20936</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">ERROR:
RX INPUT ADJUST FAILED.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If
I set the squelch setting low
manually I can hear the squelch tail everytime I unkey. If
I have someone
with a noisy but legible signal it just won’t hold. I can
go to cas
and it will work just fine. Could it be the PL detect that
is holding it
from digging?</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Any
other suggestions?</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Corey
N3FE</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> APP_RPT_Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal">I think the audio out lines on the back
plane are
de-emphasized or flat to 3k then it rolls off. Either way In
this case that is
not what you want. If you were connecting to a hardware
controller and using
the cas/RX mute then it works just fine. <br>
In the case of using DSP squelch and DSP L decode by the fob/
URI it must be
connected to the Discriminator. You could also set your node
to speaker
out instead of flat and use the USB for the cas connection.
That should
work too. <br>
<br>
I personally like using the DSP Squelch and DSP tone as it is
very quick - no
squelch busts! That is... if you have the RX squelch set
right. <span class="ecxmoz-smiley-s3">;-) </span><br>
<br>
Jon<br>
<br>
On 10/6/2010 9:19 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote: </p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">This
is making some sense
now. I did pull off the back plane but I never traced it
back to see
where exactly it was coming from. Many moons ago I followed
the Scom 7k
to Master II hookup info. I have always just used that same
spot on all
other controllers in the past without an issue and excellent
audio. I
will give that a try tonight. I know what pin you are
referring to.
It would be the same pin that you would use in a mobile
conversion and it is
also available where the stock PL board would plug in. </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks
and I will give it a try
this evening!</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Corey</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Rorke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> APP_RPT_Users<br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal">I have set up a Master II repeater
station in full duplex
mode using a URI for dsp squelch and dsp pl decode and it
works just fine. The
main thing is to connect it to the volume/squelch hi (raw
discriminator) or you
will have problems. The master II should be able to give you
1V p-p output with
1k tone @ 3k dev on the volumw/squelch hi which is not
available on the back
plane. You have to pull it off one of the connectors on the
drawer. Have to
check my notes on what pin. <br>
<br>
Any way I have a couple of units working in this manner with
no problems.<br>
<br>
Jon VA3RQ<br>
<br>
On 10/6/2010 7:46 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote: </p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal">So I have been using a GE Master II
repeater (actual
repeater, not a converted mobile) for the allstar node in full
duplex repeater
mode. I noticed it just doesn’t dig too well when using the
fob to
decode the PL. I have a maxtrac on another fob and that will
dig into the
noise great. As a test I hooked up a ts32 and ran the output
of that in
the CAS/COR on the fob and it worked great! I want to try to
get the
built in decoder working correctly though. Another friend of
mine is also
running a GE Master II and he is having the same problem.
When we run the
rxnoise level from either the radio-tune-menu or using the
radio tune command
from asterisk it always fails. Anyone have any suggestions on
a way to
resolve this? I have another use for my hardware pl decoder
so I
would like to get the USB Frob working correctly!!!!</p>
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