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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t remember what I used. I will check tonight after
my Son’s away football game and post it when I get home.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>A fellow ham, KB3HJC, was having the same problem and was
following the discussion last night. He ended up using a 470K.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I gave the repeater a good workout this morning and there is no
question it is working right. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Corey N3FE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Corey Dean N3FE<br>
<b>Cc:</b> jrorke@cogeco.ca; app_rpt mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>ok that being said <br>
what resistor values did you use?<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 22:16, Corey Dean N3FE <<a
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We are all set. I played around
with some different resistor values and now all is working as it should.
I used a remote base off of one of my repeaters off low power and it dug right
in the noise. Thanks for all of your help! It is working great
now…. I am learning as I got and I have learned a lot of ins and
outs this week…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks again!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Corey N3FE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ok
what level do you have with a full quieting signal 1k tone with 3 k deviation?<br>
there should be no problem if there is ~ 1 v p-p.<br>
<br>
You can try setting thy rx boost off as Jim suggested if its too high.<br>
<br>
The out put can be adjusted on a pot in the discriminator box on the IF board
too.<br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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On 10/6/2010 9:13 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>try
setting the rxboost=0 it looks like your signal is very loud and is
overloading<br>
the A/D.<br>
<br>
JIM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: <a
href="mailto:n3fe@repeater.net" target="_blank">n3fe@repeater.net</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:jrorke@cogeco.ca" target="_blank">jrorke@cogeco.ca</a>; <a
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:54:11 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jon,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>I just got done checking things out. The
same audio that is located on Volume Squelch hi is located on the backplane.
I just traced the circuit back and double checked it with my VOM.
Here is a link to the file I used many years ago.
<a
href="http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>I fail every time I run the RX squelch detect
from radio-tune-menu. Here are the results for that…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tune rxnoise maxtries=12, target=27000,
tolerance=2750</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=0, setting=2, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=1, setting=2, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=2, setting=2, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=3, setting=2, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=4, setting=1, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=5, setting=1, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=6, setting=1, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=7, setting=1, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=8, setting=1, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=9, setting=1, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=10, setting=1, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>tries=11, setting=1, meas=32767</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>DONE tries=12, setting=63, meas=32767,
sqnoise=20936</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>ERROR: RX INPUT ADJUST FAILED.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>If I set the squelch setting low manually I can
hear the squelch tail everytime I unkey. If I have someone with a noisy
but legible signal it just won’t hold. I can go to cas and it will
work just fine. Could it be the PL detect that is holding it from digging?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>Any other suggestions?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>Corey N3FE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Rorke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> APP_RPT_Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I think the audio out lines on the back plane are de-emphasized or flat to
3k then it rolls off. Either way In this case that is not what you want. If you
were connecting to a hardware controller and using the cas/RX mute then it
works just fine. <br>
In the case of using DSP squelch and DSP L decode by the fob/ URI it must be
connected to the Discriminator. You could also set your node to speaker
out instead of flat and use the USB for the cas connection. That should
work too. <br>
<br>
I personally like using the DSP Squelch and DSP tone as it is very quick - no
squelch busts! That is... if you have the RX squelch set right. ;-) <br>
<br>
Jon<br>
<br>
On 10/6/2010 9:19 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is making some sense now. I did pull
off the back plane but I never traced it back to see where exactly it was
coming from. Many moons ago I followed the Scom 7k to Master II hookup
info. I have always just used that same spot on all other controllers in
the past without an issue and excellent audio. I will give that a try
tonight. I know what pin you are referring to. It would be the same
pin that you would use in a mobile conversion and it is also available where
the stock PL board would plug in. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks and I will give it a try this evening!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>Corey</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Rorke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> APP_RPT_Users<br>
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<p>I have set up a Master II repeater station in full duplex mode using a URI
for dsp squelch and dsp pl decode and it works just fine. The main thing is to
connect it to the volume/squelch hi (raw discriminator) or you will have
problems. The master II should be able to give you 1V p-p output with 1k tone @
3k dev on the volumw/squelch hi which is not available on the back plane. You
have to pull it off one of the connectors on the drawer. Have to check my notes
on what pin. <br>
<br>
Any way I have a couple of units working in this manner with no problems.<br>
<br>
Jon VA3RQ<br>
<br>
On 10/6/2010 7:46 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>So I have been using a GE Master II repeater (actual repeater, not a
converted mobile) for the allstar node in full duplex repeater mode. I
noticed it just doesn’t dig too well when using the fob to decode the
PL. I have a maxtrac on another fob and that will dig into the noise
great. As a test I hooked up a ts32 and ran the output of that in the
CAS/COR on the fob and it worked great! I want to try to get the built in
decoder working correctly though. Another friend of mine is also running
a GE Master II and he is having the same problem. When we run the rxnoise
level from either the radio-tune-menu or using the radio tune command from
asterisk it always fails. Anyone have any suggestions on a way to resolve
this? I have another use for my hardware pl decoder so I would like
to get the USB Frob working correctly!!!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Corey N3FE <o:p></o:p></p>
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