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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 22:16, Corey Dean N3FE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:n3fe@repeater.net">n3fe@repeater.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We are all set. I played around with some different resistor
values and now all is working as it should. I used a remote base off of one of
my repeaters off low power and it dug right in the noise. Thanks for all of
your help! It is working great now…. I am learning as I got and I have
learned a lot of ins and outs this week…</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks again!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Corey N3FE</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext;"> <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com" target="_blank">app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com</a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:37 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok what level do you have with a full quieting signal 1k
tone with 3 k deviation?<br>
there should be no problem if there is ~ 1 v p-p.<br>
<br>
You can try setting thy rx boost off as Jim suggested if its too high.<br>
<br>
The out put can be adjusted on a pot in the discriminator box on the IF board
too.<br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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On 10/6/2010 9:13 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">try setting the rxboost=0
it looks like your signal is very loud and is overloading<br>
the A/D.<br>
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JIM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">From: <a href="mailto:n3fe@repeater.net" target="_blank">n3fe@repeater.net</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:jrorke@cogeco.ca" target="_blank">jrorke@cogeco.ca</a>; <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@qrvc.com" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@qrvc.com</a><br>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:54:11 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II</p>
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<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jon,</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I just got done checking
things out. The same audio that is located on Volume Squelch hi is
located on the backplane. I just traced the circuit back and double
checked it with my VOM. Here is a link to the file I used many years ago.
<a href="http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.scomcontrollers.com/downloads/7kgem2bs.pdf</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I fail every time I run the
RX squelch detect from radio-tune-menu. Here are the results for that…</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tune rxnoise maxtries=12, target=27000,
tolerance=2750</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=0, setting=2,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=1, setting=2,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=2, setting=2,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=3, setting=2,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=4, setting=1,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=5, setting=1,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=6, setting=1,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=7, setting=1,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=8, setting=1,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=9, setting=1,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=10, setting=1,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">tries=11, setting=1,
meas=32767</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">DONE tries=12, setting=63,
meas=32767, sqnoise=20936</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">ERROR: RX INPUT ADJUST
FAILED.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If I set the squelch setting
low manually I can hear the squelch tail everytime I unkey. If I have
someone with a noisy but legible signal it just won’t hold. I can go to
cas and it will work just fine. Could it be the PL detect that is holding
it from digging?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Any other suggestions?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Corey N3FE</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:53 AM<br>
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<p>I think the audio out lines on the back plane are
de-emphasized or flat to 3k then it rolls off. Either way In this case that is
not what you want. If you were connecting to a hardware controller and using
the cas/RX mute then it works just fine. <br>
In the case of using DSP squelch and DSP L decode by the fob/ URI it must be
connected to the Discriminator. You could also set your node to speaker
out instead of flat and use the USB for the cas connection. That should
work too. <br>
<br>
I personally like using the DSP Squelch and DSP tone as it is very quick - no
squelch busts! That is... if you have the RX squelch set right. <span>;-) </span><br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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On 10/6/2010 9:19 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote: </p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">This is making some sense
now. I did pull off the back plane but I never traced it back to see
where exactly it was coming from. Many moons ago I followed the Scom 7k
to Master II hookup info. I have always just used that same spot on all
other controllers in the past without an issue and excellent audio. I
will give that a try tonight. I know what pin you are referring to.
It would be the same pin that you would use in a mobile conversion and it is
also available where the stock PL board would plug in. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks and I will give it a
try this evening!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Corey</span></p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Rorke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> APP_RPT_Users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Using a Master II</span></p>
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<p>I have set up a Master II repeater station in full duplex
mode using a URI for dsp squelch and dsp pl decode and it works just fine. The
main thing is to connect it to the volume/squelch hi (raw discriminator) or you
will have problems. The master II should be able to give you 1V p-p output with
1k tone @ 3k dev on the volumw/squelch hi which is not available on the back
plane. You have to pull it off one of the connectors on the drawer. Have to
check my notes on what pin. <br>
<br>
Any way I have a couple of units working in this manner with no problems.<br>
<br>
Jon VA3RQ<br>
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On 10/6/2010 7:46 AM, Corey Dean N3FE wrote: </p>
<p>So I have been using a GE Master II repeater (actual
repeater, not a converted mobile) for the allstar node in full duplex repeater
mode. I noticed it just doesn’t dig too well when using the fob to decode
the PL. I have a maxtrac on another fob and that will dig into the noise
great. As a test I hooked up a ts32 and ran the output of that in the
CAS/COR on the fob and it worked great! I want to try to get the built in
decoder working correctly though. Another friend of mine is also running
a GE Master II and he is having the same problem. When we run the rxnoise
level from either the radio-tune-menu or using the radio tune command from
asterisk it always fails. Anyone have any suggestions on a way to resolve
this? I have another use for my hardware pl decoder so I would like
to get the USB Frob working correctly!!!!</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Corey N3FE </p>
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