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I never plan to grow up.<br>
On the motor boating issue, I've only experienced it when someone
connects via the web transceiver. If they disconnect and reconnect
it goes away. For whatever that is worth.<br>
<br>
Ed W8VT<br>
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On 8/1/2011 8:56 AM, George Csahanin wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">When I grow up I'm going to be a
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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black"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="steve@michiganbroadband.com"
href="mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com">Steve Gladden</a>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="george@dyb.com"
href="mailto:george@dyb.com">George Csahanin</a> ; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="chuck.henderson@gmail.com"
href="mailto:chuck.henderson@gmail.com">Chuck Henderson</a>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a
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href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt mailing list</a>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 31, 2011
10:39 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services
(ACID)</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Yep
I’ve tried disabling everything possible (everything that
takes an interrupt and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ve
never noticed anything as such to make a significant
difference…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ve
reached the conclusion:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR:
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style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR:
#1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">USB sucks (as I’ve been told by
the pros here) and it’s never going to get any better (on
USB).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR:
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style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR:
#1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The software is still imperfect
and has room to be improved (better kernel /os/usb/timer
integration).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">When
I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I’ll either
agree with the pros or fix it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE:
10pt"> George Csahanin [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:george@dyb.com">mailto:george@dyb.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chuck Henderson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Steve Gladden; John Heron; app_rpt mailing
list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM]
Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not running ntpd here, though<br>
<br>
George Csahanin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Chuck Henderson <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chuck.henderson@gmail.com">chuck.henderson@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often.
I cron ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time
close. This way I only hear the audio glitch once per
hour rather than intermittently. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve
Gladden" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com">steve@michiganbroadband.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> There's a recording of it over here: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs</a><br>
> <br>
> Steve<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</a>]
On Behalf Of George Csahanin<br>
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16 PM<br>
> To: John Heron<br>
> Cc: app_rpt mailing list<br>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling
Linux Services (ACID)<br>
> <br>
> I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very
brief, repeated disruption to PL tone, drops your
mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2 seconds, then
ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just
very brief and not noticed.<br>
> <br>
> Yup, every PC I tried does it. I jusst got used
to it.<br>
> <br>
> I wanted to get a recording of it over a year
ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get
to notice it if you put your signal generator in the
receiver, and modulate with something like a 1Kc tone<br>
> <br>
> I've tried five computers and four USB devices,
all do it.<br>
> <br>
> GeorgeC<br>
> W2DB<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "John Heron" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jh0932@gmail.com">jh0932@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: "George Csahanin" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:george@dyb.com">george@dyb.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "Lu Vencl" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vencl@att.net">vencl@att.net</a>>;
"MichaelCarey" <br>
> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michaelcarey@internode.on.net">michaelcarey@internode.on.net</a>>;
"app_rpt mailing list" <br>
> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM<br>
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux
Services (ACID)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>> Any motorboating issues?<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George
Csahanin" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:george@dyb.com">george@dyb.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards,
PicoPSU power supplies, both <br>
>>> Limey off a CF and Acid off disk<br>
>>><br>
>>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs. Brought
PTT out of one of them, the <br>
>>> others use printer port for PTT, and all
use software squelch and ctcss <br>
>>> decode.<br>
>>><br>
>>> GeorgeC<br>
>>><br>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John
Heron" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jh0932@gmail.com">jh0932@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> To: "'Lu Vencl'" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vencl@att.net">vencl@att.net</a>>;
"'Michael Carey'" <br>
>>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michaelcarey@internode.on.net">michaelcarey@internode.on.net</a>>;
"'app_rpt mailing list'" <br>
>>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>><br>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM<br>
>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling
Linux Services (ACID)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> It begs the question on what hardware
really works 100% and what does <br>
>>>> not. I<br>
>>>> ran into this years ago running a
global pactor III network and finally <br>
>>>> had<br>
>>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as
some hardware came real close to <br>
>>>> being<br>
>>>> fully compatible but would
sporadically do weird things for no apparent<br>
>>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is
in remote jungle locations... It <br>
>>>> boils<br>
>>>> down to who has had the least amount
of issues with motherboard a vs. b <br>
>>>> and<br>
>>>> so on...<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I am looking at small micro ATX form
factors for example... anybody have<br>
>>>> suggestions for a inexpensive
repeatable reliable solution?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</a><br>
>>>> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Lu Vencl<br>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44 AM<br>
>>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing
list'<br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling
Linux Services (ACID)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Michael,<br>
>>>> I still have not figured out what
causes this issue.<br>
>>>> I have tried adding two different NEC
chipset USB PCI boards and that <br>
>>>> made<br>
>>>> it much worse on my ASUS mother
boards. I believe I have pretty much<br>
>>>> exhausted all options at this point.
I just don't know why all 8 of my <br>
>>>> boxes<br>
>>>> 2.8 GHZ (all Asus) do this. I went to
slower boxes (even down to 400 <br>
>>>> Mhz)<br>
>>>> and I don't get this issue.. Go
figure.<br>
>>>> There has to be some other underlying
issue where perhaps and interrupt <br>
>>>> is<br>
>>>> being messed with or some other
issue. I just can't pin it down.<br>
>>>> I am working out a trade for some
slower boxes in exchange for these<br>
>>>> machines as a solution for now.<br>
>>>> Sorry I wish I had a better answer.<br>
>>>> Lu<br>
>>>> KA4EPS<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</a><br>
>>>> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Michael Carey<br>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:00 AM<br>
>>>> To: app_rpt mailing list<br>
>>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling
Linux Services (ACID)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi Everybody,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In an effort to make node 27871 a
lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm<br>
>>>> trying to keep things neat and tidy
by stopping any services that have<br>
>>>> no direct impact on the operation of
the node.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm after input on what others have
done on their own AllStarLink nodes.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I have done a similar thing on my
Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going<br>
>>>> through and disabling services (like
bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6, <br>
>>>> etc).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On a side note, has anyone found a
definitive cause for the occasional<br>
>>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an
AllStarNode transmits? I have<br>
>>>> another machine that I can use, but I
would like to know what causes it<br>
>>>> and how it can be eliminated or
reduced. This is the only thing that has<br>
>>>> marred an otherwise perfect
experience with my AllStarLink node.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Michael.<br>
>>>> VK5ZEA<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>
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