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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>When I grow up I'm going to be a
retiree...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>GC</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=steve@michiganbroadband.com
href="mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com">Steve Gladden</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=george@dyb.com
href="mailto:george@dyb.com">George Csahanin</A> ; <A
title=chuck.henderson@gmail.com href="mailto:chuck.henderson@gmail.com">Chuck
Henderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt mailing list</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re:
[SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Yep
I’ve tried disabling everything possible (everything that takes an interrupt
and/or cpu cycles) NTPD included.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ve
never noticed anything as such to make a significant
difference…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ve
reached the conclusion:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">1.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">USB
sucks (as I’ve been told by the pros here) and it’s never going to get any
better (on USB).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
software is still imperfect and has room to be improved (better kernel
/os/usb/timer integration).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">When
I grow up & get smarter/more experienced I’ll either agree with the pros
or fix it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Steve<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> George Csahanin
[mailto:george@dyb.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:17
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Chuck Henderson<BR><B>Cc:</B> Steve Gladden; John Heron;
app_rpt mailing list<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SPAM] Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM]
Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Not running ntpd here, though<BR><BR>George
Csahanin<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:44
PM, Chuck Henderson <<A
href="mailto:chuck.henderson@gmail.com">chuck.henderson@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P>Disable NTPD and the problem happens much less often. I cron
ntpdate to run once per hour to keep the time close. This way I only
hear the audio glitch once per hour rather than intermittently.
<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM, "Steve Gladden" <<A
href="mailto:steve@michiganbroadband.com">steve@michiganbroadband.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> There's a recording of it over here: <A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYwhtuVLDs</A><BR>>
<BR>> Steve<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A>]
On Behalf Of George Csahanin<BR>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:16
PM<BR>> To: John Heron<BR>> Cc: app_rpt mailing list<BR>> Subject:
Re: [App_rpt-users] [SPAM] Re: Culling Linux Services (ACID)<BR>>
<BR>> I think I know what you mean. Shows us as a very brief, repeated
disruption to PL tone, drops your mobile/ht decoder, maybe for time in 2
seconds, then ok for a while. t iunterrupts main audio as well, just very
brief and not noticed.<BR>> <BR>> Yup, every PC I tried does it. I
jusst got used to it.<BR>> <BR>> I wanted to get a recording of it
over a year ago, but no clean way to record audio. You really get to notice
it if you put your signal generator in the receiver, and modulate with
something like a 1Kc tone<BR>> <BR>> I've tried five computers and
four USB devices, all do it.<BR>> <BR>> GeorgeC<BR>> W2DB<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "John Heron"
<<A href="mailto:jh0932@gmail.com">jh0932@gmail.com</A>><BR>> To:
"George Csahanin" <<A
href="mailto:george@dyb.com">george@dyb.com</A>><BR>> Cc: "Lu Vencl"
<<A href="mailto:vencl@att.net">vencl@att.net</A>>; "MichaelCarey"
<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:michaelcarey@internode.on.net">michaelcarey@internode.on.net</A>>;
"app_rpt mailing list" <BR>> <<A
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</A>><BR>>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:26 PM<BR>> Subject: [SPAM] Re:
[App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services (ACID)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>>
Any motorboating issues?<BR>>><BR>>> Sent from my
iPhone<BR>>><BR>>> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:21 PM, "George
Csahanin" <<A href="mailto:george@dyb.com">george@dyb.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> So far built 3 on Intel D945GCLF2 boards,
PicoPSU power supplies, both <BR>>>> Limey off a CF and Acid off
disk<BR>>>><BR>>>> Use CM108 $6.96 USB sounds FOBs.
Brought PTT out of one of them, the <BR>>>> others use printer port
for PTT, and all use software squelch and ctcss <BR>>>>
decode.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
GeorgeC<BR>>>><BR>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
"John Heron" <<A
href="mailto:jh0932@gmail.com">jh0932@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>> To:
"'Lu Vencl'" <<A href="mailto:vencl@att.net">vencl@att.net</A>>;
"'Michael Carey'" <BR>>>> <<A
href="mailto:michaelcarey@internode.on.net">michaelcarey@internode.on.net</A>>;
"'app_rpt mailing list'" <BR>>>> <<A
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</A>><BR>>>>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:25 AM<BR>>>> Subject: Re:
[App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services
(ACID)<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>> It begs the
question on what hardware really works 100% and what does
<BR>>>>> not. I<BR>>>>> ran into this years ago
running a global pactor III network and finally <BR>>>>>
had<BR>>>>> to goto a acceptable hardware list as some hardware
came real close to <BR>>>>> being<BR>>>>> fully
compatible but would sporadically do weird things for no
apparent<BR>>>>> reason... a bad thing when the box is in remote
jungle locations... It <BR>>>>> boils<BR>>>>> down
to who has had the least amount of issues with motherboard a vs. b
<BR>>>>> and<BR>>>>> so
on...<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I am looking at small micro
ATX form factors for example... anybody have<BR>>>>> suggestions
for a inexpensive repeatable reliable
solution?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>>>>> From: <A
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A><BR>>>>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Lu Vencl<BR>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:44
AM<BR>>>>> To: 'Michael Carey'; 'app_rpt mailing
list'<BR>>>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux
Services (ACID)<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Michael,<BR>>>>> I still have not figured out what causes this
issue.<BR>>>>> I have tried adding two different NEC chipset USB
PCI boards and that <BR>>>>> made<BR>>>>> it much
worse on my ASUS mother boards. I believe I have pretty
much<BR>>>>> exhausted all options at this point. I just don't
know why all 8 of my <BR>>>>> boxes<BR>>>>> 2.8 GHZ
(all Asus) do this. I went to slower boxes (even down to 400
<BR>>>>> Mhz)<BR>>>>> and I don't get this issue..
Go figure.<BR>>>>> There has to be some other underlying issue
where perhaps and interrupt <BR>>>>> is<BR>>>>>
being messed with or some other issue. I just can't pin it
down.<BR>>>>> I am working out a trade for some slower boxes in
exchange for these<BR>>>>> machines as a solution for
now.<BR>>>>> Sorry I wish I had a better
answer.<BR>>>>> Lu<BR>>>>>
KA4EPS<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>>>>> From: <A
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A><BR>>>>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Michael Carey<BR>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011
7:00 AM<BR>>>>> To: app_rpt mailing list<BR>>>>>
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Culling Linux Services
(ACID)<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Hi
Everybody,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> In an effort to make node
27871 a lean, mean, fighting machine... I'm<BR>>>>> trying to
keep things neat and tidy by stopping any services that
have<BR>>>>> no direct impact on the operation of the
node.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I'm after input on what others
have done on their own AllStarLink
nodes.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I have done a similar thing
on my Icom G2 D-Star gateway... going<BR>>>>> through and
disabling services (like bluetooth, VNC, smartcard, IPv6,
<BR>>>>> etc).<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> On a side
note, has anyone found a definitive cause for the
occasional<BR>>>>> motorboating/stuttering audio when an
AllStarNode transmits? I have<BR>>>>> another machine that I can
use, but I would like to know what causes it<BR>>>>> and how it
can be eliminated or reduced. This is the only thing that
has<BR>>>>> marred an otherwise perfect experience with my
AllStarLink node.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Michael.<BR>>>>>
VK5ZEA<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
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