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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Yeah, Mark to the rescue… My audio problem is solved… There was a nodeemp parameter that I missed on the voter.conf configuration… This means that NXDN digital is up and functional on Allstar via an RTCM :)… bet I sound pretty funky too in my best synthesized voice :)…<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>If you want to hear it… Node 28656 is setting here on my floor, no duplexer and hooked to a dummy load and my service monitor :)…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>I'll be playing with a Beaglebone and carrying an HT so I can listen to the system for a while… I'll leave that node down off my normal hookup so it's just an island… I can hook it to my remote base if you want to hear A vs. B…<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Levels were set with analog, so no promises of what they might be on digital, but I suspect they will be very close.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan Adamson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [App_rpt-users] Repeater Audio?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>isn't exactly Allstar related, but sorta.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I've got a challenge that I'm not sure how to resolve.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I think I've said this prior. I've successfully glued an RTCM to a New Icom NXDN repeater. This repeater is running in mixed analog mode and the Allstar is gated to analog only. There is no external controller running other than the RTCM. The internal controller functions when there is a digital signal and that doesn't come across allstar. For now that's an issue I'm willing to accept on that repeater.</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> By using the Disc Out and the Mod in, this setup sounds *awesome*, I'm just blown away at how good it all sounds end to end.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I'm about to head down this path on a second repeater, but this one I want to bring up as either Digital only or mixed digital. The controller has</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the above mentioned Disc out, but that only works with</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>an analog signal. To get *transcoded * audio out, you have to use a pin called AF OUT, it's fixed level, but it's not discriminator, at best it sounds like speaker level. This is the only way to get an intelligent audio signal to feed to allstar when running in digital mode, there is no equivalent of discriminator out when in digital mode.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Because I'm using an RTCM, I also can't *process the audio* or at least</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>it's not obvious. And putting that audio back out into the network, it sounds really bad. it's too bassy, and muddy,</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>basically it's</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>de-emphasized and it really needs to be pre-emphasized. Is there any way with an RTCM to tell anything that I've got</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>de-emphasized audio and to help it out? (it really needs some form of</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>low pass put on it and the mid/high frequencies boosted). Also for note, I'm running my RTCM in conventional mode, not voter mode. and I have a CTCSS gate that is valid with COR *AND* CTCSS (in digital in NXDN they call that RAN codes).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>So I either need to filter between the radio and the RTCM or in the Allstar code if possible.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>BTW, I really have the same problem coming the other way, FM audio coming from Allstar and being then digitized to NXDN digital (AMBE+2 for those that want to know) *can* sound *really* good, but can also sound really crappy. If the person on the talking end is mumbling, or has a very deep voice, it doesn't sound worth crap, if on the other hand the person has a bright voice and talks clearly, it sounds amazing. This has nothing to do with the *emphasis* of this audio, it's FLAT going into the discriminator, the radio from there handles the transcoding.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>So, as a start, I'm looking for a relatively easy (and cheap) way to take speaker quality audio from the repeater and put it out *improved* on allstar with a RTCM. Note, with a URI, I could do that, but I don't seem to know how if possible with the RTCM/Voter/Rpt.conf stuff… </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyone faced a similar challenge and found an acceptable approach? I thought about trying one of the CAT audio boards, or maybe building a 3 or 5 band graphic equalizer, but I can't be the only person who's had this issue and solved it?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks in advance, and let me know your thoughts.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ps. I'm happy to give anyone a demo, just let me know and I'll reconfigure my repeater for digital and show you… I'm testing some analog stuff at the moment, and the new repeater is setting on my floor currently.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Alan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>