<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Ken,<br><br>Thank you for a second set of eyes on this problem. <br><br>I am very aware of the Radio_Relax parameter and it is not my intention to reopen those discussions. I am willing to accept an occasional false decode.<br><br>Changing the code to 4123 would certainly resolve the issue, as would disabling it altogether. The real problem is the fact that *40 opens the last node a command was issued on, otherwise it would take at least *4XXXX to start a command session. I'm still try to understand under what circumstances I would need to put a node into Command Mode.<br><br>Can anyone confirm, that as Monty has indicated, totime it is watching the receive side? If it is, then it would be nice if there was a timeout timer that actually watched the transmit side. <br><br>Kent<br><br><br><div><br></div> <div
style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ken <ke2n@cs.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Kent Ochs' <kentochs@sbcglobal.net>; 'Monty' <monty@ke7jvx.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:20 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [App_rpt-users] Command Mode Timeout<br> </font> </div> <br>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv1633670038WordSection1"><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";">I spent some time looking the other night and I could not find anything either.</span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";">The only timer seems to be one that clears out the digits – but does not exit the mode.</span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"> </span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";">If we rule out modifications to app_rpt.c, there are two other things you could try:</span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",
"sans-serif";"> </span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoListParagraph" style=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"><span style="">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";">Make the function calling the cop command more complex – like 4123 – and let people know</span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNoSpacing" style="margin-left:.5in;"> </div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNoSpacing" style="margin-left:.5in;"><span style="">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span>Reduce the sensitivity of the DTMF decode – one way is to remove the “RADIO_RELAX” compiler flag in /usr/src/astsrc/asterisk/<b>menuselect.makeopts</b></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoListParagraph">
</div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNoSpacing">There have been previous posts on the latter subject.</div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNoSpacing"> </div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">GL</span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Ken</span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">W4BRM/R</span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div
style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";"> app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Ochs<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Monty<br><b>Cc:</b> app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Command Mode Timeout</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Monty,</span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Thanks for the reply. I have spent considerable time, and try as a I may, have not found anything in the source that provides command mode timeout. My inclination at this point is to disable the ilink,4 command mode option.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Kent</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"><hr align="center" size="1" width="100%"></span></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> Monty <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:monty@ke7jvx.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:monty@ke7jvx.com">monty@ke7jvx.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Kent Ochs <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kentochs@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:kentochs@sbcglobal.net">kentochs@sbcglobal.net</a>>
<br><b>Cc:</b> "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 27, 2012 2:24 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Command Mode Timeout</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div id="yiv1633670038"><div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Hi Kent,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">I have
come across this before, and I do believe there is a timeout to kill the Transmitter when there is no activity while in command mode, just not as short as the timeout timer. Not sure what it is set to, but you should be able to search the source file and see. From my experience, the Timeout Timer is looking at the Receiver activity and not the Transmitter activity, and does still operate while in command mode. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">My situation was someone put a repeater in command mode while traveling and went out of range of the repeater and could not take out of command mode. I brought up the repeater later and it was not keyed, but as soon as I keyed the repeater it gave the command telemetry and stayed keyed, so I
took it out of command mode. Hope this helps.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><br>Monty</span></div></div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Kent Ochs <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kentochs@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:kentochs@sbcglobal.net">kentochs@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:</span></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Our repeater (A two node system consisting of VHF 27833 node linked
to a UHF receiver on node 1998) recently experienced a random false dtmf *40 decode. This put the repeater into transmit mode. What bothers me most, is that while in command mode, the transmit timeout parameter (totime) appears to be ignored, not good if there isn't someone around that knows to send "#" or otherwise shutdown the machine. In normal operating mode, totime works as expected, and try as I may, I have not been able to find a "command mode timeout" parameter. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Have I missed or mis-configured something to cause this behavior? </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Is there a problem with the command function not honoring the transmit timeout parameter? </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">I understand that *4 is a mandatory command, but could someone enlighten me as to why I shouldn't just disable this command altogether?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",
"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">An inquired mind wants to know and appreciates your feedback.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Thanks.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1633670038MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Kent</span></div></div><div><div
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