You know folks Just use some common sense.<br><br>If your gear is in operation and has active traffic, ID it, CW or Voice make no difference.<br><br>if it is a Simplex Node, same rule applies if it has active traffic, ID it, choose your method CW or Voice.<br>
<br>if it is a Repeater Node and has activity, it should ID at the proper intervals. and again choose your method, CW or Voice!<br><br>Plain and simple if you or your gear transmits RF in the HAM bands, ID it<br><br>if it is a digital mode make sure you have it ID in the mode it operates in. other wise use CW at proper intervals.<br>
<br>yes the rules are there for us to use as a guide. Use common sense folks<br><br>it is so simple. No need to have the Lawyers or ones who think they are one, interpret every little thing. <br><br>I did not mention exact intervals because every country and local around the world has different rules. <br>
<br>But you have to ID, it is just being a good operator.<br><br>This thread has gone on far too long JMHO & 2 cents worth!<br><br><br><div>--<br>Thanks in Advance<br><br> Bob Brown, WØNQX<br><br> Kansas City Metro Area<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Jim W7RY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:w7ry@centurytel.net" target="_blank">w7ry@centurytel.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>And what you have cut and pasted below is a station operating as a beacon
station. Not a repeater station sending “CW (modulated interrupted tone) or
voice” by frequency modulation (FM). </div>
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<div>Beacons are used for propagation determination on 10, 6 and 2 meters.
Although I have never heard a 2 meter beacon station. Have you ever heard a
beacon station on 10 or 6 meters? When 10 meters has propagation, I can hear
100s of them.</div>
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<div>A beacon station transmits A1 (CW). Not F3 (FM) or CW by modulated
FM.</div>
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<div>73</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div>Jim W7RY</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="n0pco@alertradio.net" href="mailto:n0pco@alertradio.net" target="_blank">ALERTradio ERC | N0PCO</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 29, 2013 9:02 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="w7ry@centurytel.net" href="mailto:w7ry@centurytel.net" target="_blank">Jim W7RY</a> </div>
</div><div class="im"><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] How to turn on AllStar ID
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03/29/2013 09:57 AM, Jim W7RY wrote:
</div><div class="im"><blockquote type="cite">Please point me to the part 97 rules that state beaconing is
illegal. <br><br>73 <br>Jim W7RY <br><br></blockquote><br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote>§ 97.203 Beacon station.<br>(a) Any amateur station licensed to a
holder of a Technician, General, Advanced or Amateur Extra Class operator
license may be a<br>beacon. A holder of a Technician, General, Advanced or
Amateur Extra Class operator license may be the control operator of
a<br>beacon, subject to the privileges of the class of operator license
held.<br>(b) A beacon must not concurrently transmit on more than 1 channel in
the same amateur service frequency band, from the same<br>station
location.<br>(c) The transmitter power of a beacon must not exceed 100
W.<br><b>(d) A beacon may be automatically controlled while it is transmitting
on the 28.20–28.30 MHz, 50.06–50.08 MHz, 144.275–144.300<br>MHz, 222.05–222.06
MHz or 432.300–432.400 MHz segments, or on the 33 cm and shorter wavelength
bands.</b><br><br></blockquote>Another one of those yes but no situation
courtesy of the FCC. Since the beacon is automatically
controlled announcing the availability of the repeater / link and in most cases
the repeater / link is not operating on a frequency within the groups listed
under 97.203(d) the beacon would not be legal.<br><br>97.111(b) would be a
good place to check regarding one-way communications<br><br>
<blockquote>(b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized
elsewhere in this part, an amateur station may transmit the following<br>types
of one-way communications:<br>(1) Brief transmissions necessary to make
adjustments to the station;<br><b>(2) Brief transmissions necessary to
establishing two-way communications with other stations;</b><br>(3)
Telecommand;<br>(4) Transmissions necessary to providing emergency
communications;<br>(5) Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning,
or improving proficiency in, the international Morse code; and<br><b>(6)
Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins.</b><br>(7)
Transmissions of telemetry.<br></blockquote>A voice announcement providing
information about the repeater (callsign, PL tone, etc.) would fit as
permissible one-way communications. That some would still call a
"beacon." Then going back to 97.203(d) if the same were to be done with CW
it would not be permissible unless there was already traffic on the repeater
then it would just be a plain old identification.<br><br>
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people when Major Whoops shows up.<br><br><br>Have a great day.<br><br>Mars -
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