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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike, setting the UTC=false will work as well as long as you transfer the calibrated time that is current set correctly on the system back to your RTC via the ‘hwclock -systohc’ command to write the corrected system time (UTC or Local) back to the BIOS RTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Setting TZ variable will not cover some of the OS components for proper housekeeping. One of the biggest things that Doug needs to be concerned about is getting the proper time in the syslogs. Also, it may affect CRONTAB entries if something is set to be fired off at a predetermined time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Most of my clients have Unix/Linux based OS’s, I’ve standardized in setting UTC time because it is what Unix/Linux uses natively.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'> <br></span><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul J. Agamata</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'>WH6FM</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="Sysman@Xceptions.COM">Sysman@Xceptions.COM</a><br>Hilo, Hawaii<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'><br><img border=0 width=91 height=89 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CEF79C.F278E090" alt="cid:26C7E1B4-65BD-49A7-A587-38D296ABEB5E"></span><span style='font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>mike@midnighteng.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Time 6 hours fast<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Doug,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I always had to many problems trying to maintain utc in system clock with the utc offset. app_rpt seemed to always read the raw utc time from the rtc (bios clock).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Now there may be a more appropriate way to fix this but...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>My remedy was to set the system to local time a get rid of utc offsets. So it would always speak local time and I knew exactly what the computer clock was set at.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>You need to edit /etc/system/clock (no extension)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>ZONE="America/New_York"<br>UTC=false<br>ARC=false<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>While I forget where the "New_York" file is, you need to look at it to be sure it's data is correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>As I remember it, There was something wrong with mine but I did not keep the original file to say what it was.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Then set your clock to local time and it should be correct. You will need to adjust it manually for DST.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>hope that sheds some light in the right direction for what you want.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>...mike/kb8jnm<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=replyBlockquote><div id=wmQuoteWrapper><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Time 6 hours fast<br>From: Doug Crompton <<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a>><br>Date: Thu, December 12, 2013 10:13 pm<br>To: "<a href="mailto:mike@midnighteng.com">mike@midnighteng.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:mike@midnighteng.com">mike@midnighteng.com</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I was working with Harry on this and I was stumped also. His timezone in Linux is correct and the system date command is correct. The time zone setting in asterisk system.conf is set to -5.0 which is correct for east coast US. I don't see anything else to set. He is also running ntpd.<br id=FontBreak></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>73 Doug<br>WA3DSP<br><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></span></b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>From: <a href="mailto:mike@midnighteng.com">mike@midnighteng.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a><br>Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 18:14:21 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Time 6 hours fast<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>You need to set the time zone in your linux OS to your local time zone and daylight savings flag if you want it to read back in local time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Google " set time zone linux " for some reading. It can be done a couple ways but be sure you understand implications. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Make back-up copy of files before changing.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>...mike/kb8jnm<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=ecxreplyBlockquote><div id=ecxwmQuoteWrapper><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [App_rpt-users] Time 6 hours fast<br>From: "Harry Romano" <<a href="mailto:hromano@earthlink.net" target="_blank">hromano@earthlink.net</a>><br>Date: Thu, December 12, 2013 5:46 pm<br>To: <<a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I have a really weird issue. Beside me personally ,When I press *81 to have allstar say the time Its says the time but 6 hours later so if its 12 midnight it says 6 am . When I key in the date command to allstar from the terminal It gives me the correct date and time month day and est. The minutes are always correct. So I the time is 12:30 midnight it will say 6:30 am . I also was shown how to use the crontab and that works just fine . So why does the time say its 6 hour later. Can anyone help with this issue please!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>73<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Harry KC4RPP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>App_rpt-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank">App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a><br><a href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users" target="_blank">http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list <a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a> <a href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users">http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>