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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Ah, good point.. If that is the case, then I am screwed.. I am using DCS and Allstar does not support it, so I have to encode DCS on the repeater side.. I will test it out to see if your theory plays out.</SPAN></div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Then I also just thought about the possibility that the data input is for digital mode only. Wonder if that might be the case, anyone know?</SPAN></div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks..</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"> app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Doug Bade<BR clear=none><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2013 10:08 AM<BR clear=none><B>To:</B> app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<BR clear=none><B>Subject:</B> Re: [App_rpt-users] Question regarding interfacing to a Kenwood Nextedge Repeater NXR-710/810</SPAN></div></DIV></DIV>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I know on Icom IDAS repeaters there is an obscure programming setting regarding disabling internal ctcss encode on external ptt that enables the data input to accept input from dc to daylight… if it is not set correctly the data input is dead.. I am suspecting something similar is hanging you up.. I would look in the help files of the RSS about data input.. Motorola is pretty good about their help files most of the time… I am not familiar with TRBO repeater programming but maybe similar issues to what I have run into..</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A> [<A href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lu Vencl<BR clear=none><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2013 10:06 AM<BR clear=none><B>To:</B> 'Ed Wilhelm'; <A href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</A><BR clear=none><B>Subject:</B> Re: [App_rpt-users] Question regarding interfacing to a Kenwood Nextedge Repeater NXR-710/810</SPAN></div></DIV></DIV>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks to Don and Ed for the replies.</SPAN></div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Here is the latest. Problem ended up being that the URI was not sending TX audio from the locally processed repeater transmissions. Not sure why, but when I changed the ctcssfrom=no to ctcssfrom=usb it started to work.. Not sure why as I am not even tying the URI CTCSS to anything. But regardless I now have the audio.</SPAN></div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Ed, I am going to keep the Kenwood repeaters in repeat mode so that if the node should go down, it will at least repeat locally. That was my objective.. So with the External PTT trigger occurring, I have the take over I was looking for anyway. This means that when the node is up (sending PTT) the local repeat audio is not enabled, and that is good so I can take advantage of the Allstar processed audio.</SPAN></div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">The only remaining item is that I was hoping to send the pre-emphasised audio into the repeater that would be able to handle that audio. Don mentioned that I should be able to feed it into Pin 8 which is TX Data in, but I am not getting any modulation for some reason.. I will continue to troubleshoot. Worse case, I will go with your plan Ed and go speaker audio.. </SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoPlainText>hdwtype=0 ; 0=std,1=dev</div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoPlainText>eeprom=0 ; unless you have a cable w/eeprom</div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoPlainText>;minsigproc=0 ; minimal signal processing</div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoPlainText>;sendvoter=0 ; 0=default, no voter rssi, 1=enable voter rssi</div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoPlainText>carrierfrom=usb ; no,usb,usbinvert,dsp,vox</div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoPlainText>rxboost=1 ; rx input boost of 20dB</div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoPlainText>rxdemod=flat ; no,speaker,flat</div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoPlainText>txprelim=1 ; 1 = pre-emphasize and limit</div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"> <A href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A> [<A href="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org">mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed Wilhelm<BR clear=none><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2013 8:35 AM<BR clear=none><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</A><BR clear=none><B>Subject:</B> Re: [App_rpt-users] Question regarding interfacing to a Kenwood Nextedge Repeater NXR-710/810</SPAN></div></DIV></DIV>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal>Haven't hooked up a URI to one but have done some other things.<BR clear=none>Your transmit audio should be "microphone" audio, not pre-emphasized. Pin 9.<BR clear=none>Rx audio is at 11, squelched. PTT at 16 and TOR can be assigned under function port to whatever pin you like.<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>In KPG-129D go to channel edit and set operation mode to duplex not repeater. Now the URI should control and handle audio.<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Should work on analog or digital. Use simple USB not dsp.<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Ed W8VT<BR clear=none>Nodes 27849, 29496<BR clear=none><BR clear=none><BR clear=none><BR clear=none>On 12/29/2013 10:28 PM, Lu Vencl wrote:<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></div></DIV>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal>I know this is a shot in the dark and I am probably the only one trying this, but is there by chance anyone that has successfully interfaced a URI to a Kenwood NEXEDGE® Repeater NXR-710/810?</div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal>My challenge is this.</div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoListParagraph>1.<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt"> </SPAN>Can’t seem to find a way to feed in pre-emphasize TX audio.. Not a show stopper, but sure would be nice if I could. I can always run regular mode.. Tried the TX data input but got no audio</div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoListParagraph>2.<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt"> </SPAN>When using external PTT, it mutes the TX audio for some reason. Seems as when the repeater is receiving audio, and the URI bring PTT low on the External PTT, it mutes the audio completely. You hear no repeat audio.</div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal>I am using in rpt.conf, Duplex =1.. If I do Duplex =0, then I get the internal repeat audio, but it does not take advantage of the Allstar processed audio such as audio delay and DTMF muting.</div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal>There has to be a better way and has hoping someone has already succeeded in this challenge. I can email you the programming file to the repeater if you wish.</div>
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<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal>Thanks in advance.</div>
<div class=yiv2667945912MsoNormal>Lu, KA4EPS</div>
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