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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><font style="" face="Tahoma">I guess this is getting way off topic and it also seems there are some strong opinions on dns. First of all Allstar rarely uses dns. The node connections are by IP address. If allstarlink.org, as defined in iax.conf is a problem put in the IP address. I doubt it would change.<br><br>99% of Internet users use dhcp and the dns is assigned by the provider. In the case of Comcast or Verizon it goes to their dns and you router defers it there when you point it to the router address. I have used a lot of routers over the years and I never had a problem. There is really no reason to muck with the dns. In most all cases if the dns is not working then your connection is not working either. There are a lot of people out there that would highly benefit by upgrading their Internet routers but thats another story.<br id="FontBreak"></font><br><b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">WA3DSP</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</font></b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: petem001@hotmail.com<br>To: asylthe@kc9ona.com; doug@crompton.com<br>CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<br>Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID<br>Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:03:39 -0400<br><br>
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<div>I always use the DNS provided to my router by my ISP first (could be 2 or
3) THEN I use the google DNS And at the end I use 2 of intenic. (Iknow it is not
good practice for use to connect to Internic DNS server. but it is in case all
the other fail.. Wich is highly improbable</div>
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<div>that way I know that no mather what I will recive an answer to any dns
query , it could take time, but I will recieve it..</div>
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<div>Here is a good read on how DNS server works..</div>
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<div><a title="http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html" href="http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html" target="_blank">http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html</a></div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a title="asylthe@kc9ona.com" href="mailto:asylthe@kc9ona.com">Andrew Sylthe</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 05, 2014 10:41 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="doug@crompton.com" href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">Doug
Crompton</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of
ACID</div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address
of your router. Not all routers act as a DNS caching server.
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<div>Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use: 8.8.8.8 &
8.8.4.4 (<a href="https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/" target="_blank">https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/</a>)</div>
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<div>My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your
/etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching
server.</div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Tahoma">The usual practice is to set your nameserver,
/etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as
your gateway address.<br></font><br><b><font style="FONT-SIZE:16pt;" size="4">73
Doug</font><font style="FONT-SIZE:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="FONT-SIZE:16pt;" size="4">WA3DSP</font><font style="FONT-SIZE:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="FONT-SIZE:16pt;" size="4"><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></font></b><font style="FONT-SIZE:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><br><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com" target="_blank">tim.sawyer@mac.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20
-0700<br>To: <a href="mailto:kk6ecm@gmail.com" target="_blank">kk6ecm@gmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>
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<div class="h5"><br>Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of
ACID<br><br>Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t
be able to ping <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>, for
example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1
for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. <br>
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<div style="WORD-WRAP:break-word;">--<br>Tim<br>:wq</div></span></span></div>
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<div>On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <<a href="mailto:kk6ecm@gmail.com" target="_blank">kk6ecm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:arial;COLOR:navy;">Can the DNS make it
appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not
connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable
were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to
try.</span></font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:arial;COLOR:navy;"><br>Thanks
all,</span></font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:arial;COLOR:navy;">Bob</span></font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:arial;COLOR:navy;">kk6ecm</span></font></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;"><span> </span>Tim Sawyer
[<a style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;COLOR:blue;" href="mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com" target="_blank">mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com</a>]<span> </span><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b><span> </span>Sunday, May 04,
2014 8:25 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b><span> </span>Willem
Schreuder<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Cc:</span></b><span> </span>Bob;<span> </span><a style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;COLOR:blue;" href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b><span> </span>Re:
[App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID</span></font></div></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;">I also use ‘setup’ to
set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go
edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you
prefer:</span></font></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font face="Monaco" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:monaco;">nameserver
8.8.8.8</span></font></div></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font face="Monaco" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:monaco;">nameserver
8.8.4.4</span></font></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;">--<br>Tim<br>:wq</span></font></div></div></span></span></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;">On May 4, 2014, at 7:49
PM, Willem Schreuder <<a style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;COLOR:blue;" href="mailto:willem@prinmath.com" target="_blank">willem@prinmath.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></div></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;">On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob
wrote:<br><br><br></span></font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;">After the ACID load is
complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the<br>command prompt, and
configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN.<br>When I do this on a
WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to<br>the public
(static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID,<br>eth0
can't find the connection.</span></font></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;"><br>Bob, what you are
doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is
nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in
ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have
some field wrong somewhere.<br><br>I would approach it bottom up - try
pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses,
then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet
you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the
problem.<br><br>73
Willem<br><br>================================================================<br>Dr.
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