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    Just a quick question here. So you have duplex =1 in rpt.conf and in
    usbradio duplex=0 right?<br>
    You need to make sure the duplex setting in both the rpt and
    usberadio.conf files are set to a half duplex mode. <br>
    How fast is the green light blinking on the URI?<br>
    What hardware is the node on?<br>
    <br>
    Jon<br>
    <br>
    On 9/27/2014 4:30 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mike@midnighteng.com">mike@midnighteng.com</a> wrote:
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        <div>Mike,</div>
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        <div>May I ask the specific radio involved here ?</div>
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        <div>...mike/kb8jnm</div>
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            Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: COR signal getting
            confused<br>
            From: Doug Crompton <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a>><br>
            Date: Sat, September 27, 2014 1:44 am<br>
            To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>"
            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                face="Tahoma,sans-serif">rxdelay delays qualifying the
                COS signal until the number of milliseconds after PTT
                release.  This would be true for the courtesy tone also
                because any TX could cause a false COS trigger if you
                had that problem.<br>
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                Maybe you just need to disable the courtesy tone.<br
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              <b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73 Doug</font><font
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                <hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a><br>
                To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a><br>
                Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 00:49:15 -0400<br>
                Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: COR signal getting
                confused<br>
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                    face="Tahoma,sans-serif">That command does work in
                    simpleusb also but I think it is the opposite that
                    is the problem. It is not responding. Worth a try I
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                  <b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73 Doug</font><font
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                    </font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">WA3DSP</font><font
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                    <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014
                    00:32:19 -0400<br>
                    From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:kp4tr.ramon@gmail.com">kp4tr.ramon@gmail.com</a><br>
                    To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a>;
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:kf7mbk@w7ara.net">kf7mbk@w7ara.net</a><br>
                    CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: COR signal getting
                    confused<br>
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                    <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Try this in
                      usbradio.conf (this is not recognized in
                      simpleusb):<br>
                      <br>
                      rxondelay=25            ; This will instruct the
                      usbradio driver to ignore the COR line<br>
                                              ; for a specified number
                      of 20mSec intervals following the release of PTT.<br>
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                      <br>
                      On 9/26/2014 11:37 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr"><font style="" color="#000000"
                          face="Tahoma,sans-serif">Mike,<br>
                          <br>
                           You can try the changing the courtesy time
                          wait then set back to duplex=1<br>
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                        The wait-times section<br>
                        This section allows the wait times for voice
                        responses and other audio telemetry events to be
                        adjusted. All wait times are in milliseconds.<br>
                        <br>
                        <strong><em>telemwait</em></strong> sets the
                        time before sending the general audio telemetry
                        responses used in the application which are not
                        specifically defined below<br>
                        <strong><em>idwait</em></strong> sets the time
                        to wait before sending ID audio telemetry<br>
                        <strong><em>unkeywait</em></strong> sets the
                        amount of time to wait before sending the
                        courtesy tone. This can be used to ensure
                        breaking stations can get their turn<br>
                        <strong><em>calltermwait</em></strong> sets the
                        amount of time between an autopatch disconnect
                        and the audio telemetry message indicating the
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                          The unkeywait is the one to mess with. It is
                          400ms on the BBB by default. Make it longer
                          like 1000 so it spans the dropout period you
                          are seeing. Experiment with times.<br>
                          <br>
                          If that doesn't work I really think you should
                          try a different radio. My thoughts are that it
                          is some kind of recovery issue with TX. <br
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                        <b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73
                            Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;"
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                          <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
                            class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                            href="mailto:kf7mbk@w7ara.net">kf7mbk@w7ara.net</a><br>
                          Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 18:59:26 -0700<br>
                          Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: COR signal
                          getting confused<br>
                          To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
                            class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                            href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a><br>
                          CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
                            class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                            href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a><br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">OK, so I did some more testing.
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I have routed the signal out of the
                              radio to an NPN and switched from
                              usbinvert to usb as suggested.  This made
                              little difference, but in this
                              configuration I could make the RC work a
                              little better bridging the dropouts.  But
                              still would end up not detecting carrier
                              after a quick dropout even though the COR
                              signal into the dongle was high.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Duplex = 0 seems to eliminate the
                              problem. Is there a setting to tell it how
                              long to wait after COR dropped to start
                              transmitting the courtesy tone? (though I
                              suppose that would defeat the purpose of
                              the duplex=1 setting)  Note that I have
                              the PTT disconnected for testing, so all I
                              see is the red LED come on as soon as the
                              COR out of the radio drops.  </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Actually as I'm typing this and playing
                              with it, I just noticed it appears if the
                              COR is restored ANY time the PTT is active
                              for the courtesy tone, it will ignore the
                              COR line until it's dropped and brought
                              back up AFTER the PTT is done. This
                              behavior seems VERY repeatable, even with
                              a cleanly restored COR signal,  So it may
                              have nothing to do with quick dropouts and
                              everything to do with the courtesy tone..</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Are there any settings that control
                              this?</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>The LED on the radio (and hence my COR
                              input)  is controlled by noise squelch
                              opening.</div>
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                            <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 26,
                              2014 at 3:05 PM, Doug Crompton <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:doug@crompton.com"
                                  target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"
                                      face="Tahoma,sans-serif">Mike,<br>
                                      <br>
                                       Are you using PL or noise squelch
                                      or both? Like I said I have not
                                      seen this problem and I am using
                                      basically stock timing. Every time
                                      the PL or squelch goes untrue for
                                      a certain (short) duration you
                                      should hear a courtesy tone.
                                      Perhpas you should try duplex=0
                                      just to see if there is an issue
                                      with TX recovery.  Do you have
                                      another radio you can try?  <br>
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                                      <b><font style="font-size:16pt;"
                                          size="4">73 Doug</font><font
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                                          size="4">WA3DSP</font><font
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                                      <hr>From: <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:kf7mbk@w7ara.net"
                                        target="_blank">kf7mbk@w7ara.net</a><br>
                                      Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:18:19
                                      -0700
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                                        <div class="h5"><br>
                                          Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users]
                                          Fwd: COR signal getting
                                          confused<br>
                                          To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a><br>
                                          CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a><br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">The scope image
                                            in the OP shows there
                                            doesn't appear to be a
                                            problem with pulling hi or
                                            low,  The transitions
                                            (without the RC) are very
                                            clean and go all the way to
                                            ground..  It seems like the
                                            URI is doing edge detection
                                            instead of level detection,
                                            and it's just missing fast
                                            edges.  Wasn't sure if this
                                            was something that could be
                                            tweaked in software or if
                                            I'll have to put some
                                            external debounce logic on
                                            the line.
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                                          <div><br>
                                            <div>On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at
                                              10:07 AM, Doug Crompton <span
                                                dir="ltr"><<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a>></span>
                                              wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div dir="ltr"><font
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                                                      face="Tahoma,sans-serif">Mike,<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                       Before you change
                                                      any timing make
                                                      sure as Jon
                                                      pointed out that
                                                      your COS signal is
                                                      going hard high
                                                      and low on signal
                                                      and non-signal.
                                                      You might need a
                                                      pullup. The URI is
                                                      kind of weak in
                                                      that regard.  It
                                                      should be TTL
                                                      levels  <.5
                                                      volt low and
                                                      >2.5 volt high
                                                      and preferably
                                                      rail to rail.<br>
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                                                      <b><font
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                                                          Doug</font><font
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                                                        </font><font
                                                          style="font-size:16pt;"
                                                          size="4">WA3DSP</font><font
style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br>
                                                        </font><font
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                                                          size="4"><a
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href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></font></b><font
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                                                      <hr>From: <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kf7mbk@w7ara.net" target="_blank">kf7mbk@w7ara.net</a><br>
                                                      Date: Fri, 26 Sep
                                                      2014 09:56:21
                                                      -0700<br>
                                                      Subject: Re:
                                                      [App_rpt-users]
                                                      Fwd: COR signal
                                                      getting confused<br>
                                                      To: <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a><br>
                                                      CC: <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Doug,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>First:
                                                          thanks for the
                                                          excellent
                                                          writeup on
                                                          getting
                                                          allstar
                                                          running on the
                                                          BBB.  I used
                                                          it to get up
                                                          and running
                                                          very quickly
                                                          and is the
                                                          setup I am
                                                          having this
                                                          issue with.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I am
                                                          running duplex
                                                          =1 as well.  I
                                                          have not
                                                          changed any
                                                          timing values,
                                                          (I'm
                                                          essentially
                                                          running the
                                                          as-installed
                                                          setup from the
                                                          install image
                                                          on your site)
                                                          but I will
                                                          take a look at
                                                          them and see
                                                          if I can make
                                                          some changes
                                                          for the
                                                          better.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks!</div>
                                                          <div>-Mike</div>
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                                                          <div>On Fri,
                                                          Sep 26, 2014
                                                          at 9:49 AM,
                                                          Doug Crompton
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <hr>From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a><br>
                                                          To: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kf7mbk@w7ara.net" target="_blank">kf7mbk@w7ara.net</a><br>
                                                          Subject: RE:
                                                          [App_rpt-users]
                                                          Fwd: COR
                                                          signal getting
                                                          confused<br>
                                                          Date: Fri, 26
                                                          Sep 2014
                                                          12:46:14 -0400<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><font
color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif">That is very strange. Have you
                                                          changed any of
                                                          the default
                                                          timing values?
                                                          Are you using
                                                          simplex/duplex?
                                                          Courtesy tone?
                                                          Timing values
                                                          could effect
                                                          that. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I use simplex
                                                          with courtesy
                                                          tone (duplex=1
                                                          in rpt.conf) 
                                                          on several
                                                          nodes and I
                                                          have never
                                                          seen that
                                                          problem. I
                                                          have one user
                                                          who has a
                                                          signal like
                                                          you describe.
                                                          He walks in a
                                                          park with a
                                                          handheld and
                                                          he is often in
                                                          and out.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Also I assume
                                                          you are not
                                                          using any
                                                          rxdelay?<br>
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                                                          Doug</font><font
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                                                          style="font-size:16pt;"
                                                          size="4"><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></font></b><font
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                                                          <hr>From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kf7mbk@w7ara.net" target="_blank">kf7mbk@w7ara.net</a><br>
                                                          Date: Fri, 26
                                                          Sep 2014
                                                          08:50:51 -0700<br>
                                                          To: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" target="_blank">app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a><br>
                                                          Subject:
                                                          [App_rpt-users]
                                                          Fwd: COR
                                                          signal getting
                                                          confused
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Resending
                                                          since my
                                                          initial post
                                                          has been
                                                          pending
                                                          moderation for
                                                          2 days now and
                                                          got no reply
                                                          from the list
                                                          owner email.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I have
                                                          modified an HT
                                                          to bring out
                                                          the receive
                                                          LED signal and
                                                          use it<br>
                                                          as the COR
                                                          input to a DMK
                                                          URI. It is a
                                                          digital signal
                                                          as viewed on a<br>
                                                          scope (i.e.
                                                          very short
                                                          slope in the
                                                          transitions) 
                                                          This seems
                                                          like it<br>
                                                          would work
                                                          well and it
                                                          does on strong
                                                          signals. But
                                                          on marginal
                                                          signals<br>
                                                          where the LED
                                                          may blink on
                                                          and off
                                                          quickly (like
                                                          during picket<br>
                                                          fencing), it
                                                          seems to
                                                          confuse the
                                                          URI (or the
                                                          software) were
                                                          it will<br>
                                                          start off
                                                          good, but then
                                                          a quick
                                                          dropout of the
                                                          COR signal
                                                          will cause<br>
                                                          the software
                                                          to no longer
                                                          detect
                                                          carrier, even
                                                          though the
                                                          signal on<br>
                                                          the COR input
                                                          has been
                                                          restored. 
                                                          Even if the
                                                          input is solid
                                                          high (or<br>
                                                          low in my
                                                          case, I'm
                                                          using
                                                          usbinvert) it
                                                          will not
                                                          detect a
                                                          carrier<br>
                                                          until there is
                                                          another
                                                          dropout of
                                                          adequate time
                                                          to "reset" it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I've tried
                                                          putting a
                                                          simple RC on
                                                          the input but
                                                          it didn't
                                                          really help<br>
                                                          much.  Seems
                                                          the URI (or
                                                          software)
                                                          needs a
                                                          significant
                                                          minimum time<br>
                                                          between
                                                          transitions to
                                                          properly
                                                          detect them,
                                                          long enough
                                                          that it would<br>
                                                          delay the
                                                          carrier
                                                          detection too
                                                          much without a
                                                          circuit more
                                                          complex<br>
                                                          than an RC
                                                          (i.e.
                                                          something that
                                                          would allow
                                                          instant keyup,
                                                          but delay<br>
                                                          the key down.)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Linked is a
                                                          scope image. </div>
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                                                          <div><a
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href="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CsJ9autUTAE/VCWK-uNJJpI/AAAAAAAAPSM/VsVvbPVvuEA/s800/20140923_184107.jpg"
target="_blank">https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CsJ9autUTAE/VCWK-uNJJpI/AAAAAAAAPSM/VsVvbPVvuEA/s800/20140923_184107.jpg</a></div>
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                                                          <div>Carrier
                                                          was detected
                                                          until this
                                                          signal<br>
                                                          dropout
                                                          event.  Ch A
                                                          is my RC
                                                          filtered
                                                          signal sent to
                                                          the URI, Ch B
                                                          is<br>
                                                          the signal out
                                                          of the radio. 
                                                          Carrier was
                                                          not detected
                                                          after the 5th<br>
                                                          dropout even
                                                          though the
                                                          signal
                                                          remained low.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Anyone ever
                                                          experience
                                                          this and/or
                                                          have ideas on
                                                          how to fix it?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Thanks.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Mike<br>
                                                          KF7MBK<br>
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