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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:00 AM, David McGough <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kb4fxc@inttek.net" target="_blank">kb4fxc@inttek.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Hi Mike (& Everyone),<br>
<br>
I ran an "experimental" freezer test over the last 10 hours or so. My test<br>
setup is a "bare" BBB (no case or anything) with URI plugged in, sitting<br>
in a ceramic dinner plate on the 2nd shelf from the top of the<br>
deep-freezer. I'm powering the contraption using an Adafruit 5V2A<br>
wall-wart located outside the freezer, with the small power cord running<br>
thru the freeze door seal.<br>
<br>
An uncalibrated analog thermometer inside said about -20 degrees<br>
Fahrenheit just now. The typical range on this thermometer is about -15 or<br>
lower.<br>
<br>
I brought an industrial "point and shoot" IR thermometer back from my<br>
office and checked the BBB at various spots. The CPU/SoC was the warmest<br>
at about -2 degrees. Other spots ranged as low as -9. When I pointed the<br>
IR thermometer at my old analog one, the IR said -17 (analog says -20).<br>
The plate, BBB and thermometer are in the air stream from the freezer<br>
circulating fan--that should be a worst case scenario!<br>
<br>
I'm already getting some dirty looks about "commandeering" the freezer!<br>
I'll going to conclude this phase of testing before lunch! HiHi!<br>
<br>
<br>
73, David KB4FXC<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, David McGough wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
> Hi Mike,<br>
><br>
> Was the URI green LED flashing (I guess not...)??<br>
><br>
> I'm rather amazed that the BBB or URI was directly the cause of the<br>
> lock-up, even with really cold conditions. The simplest low-power-budget<br>
> solution to keep this hardware warm is a simple Styrofoam container.<br>
> Even with the minuscule BBB power consumption, Styrofoam should do the<br>
> job fine.<br>
><br>
> I'll mention here, again, that the ONLY scenarios I've seen where BBB's<br>
> have locked-up were due to 5VDC power woes. I completely stable 5V power<br>
> source is critical. And, the 5VDC regulator might be a source of problems<br>
> in extreme cold, too.<br>
><br>
> If you don't already have it, I recommend adding a cheap digital<br>
> thermometer to your cabinet that records all-time temperature extremes,<br>
> including time/date. Or, if you want to get fancier, the BBB AllStar<br>
> release already includes support for a USB attached thermometer (see the<br>
> "pcsensor" command) which will log temperature to a file, etc. Note that<br>
> if you decide to go the USB thermometer route, a bug was found in the code<br>
> in the 1.2.1 release. This has already been patched, but, you'll need the<br>
> patch (contact me off list or search the arm-allstar list for more<br>
> details).<br>
><br>
> Any idea how cold it got and for how long??? And, what is your power<br>
> source??<br>
><br>
> I'm preparing to put a "test" BBB and URI in my deep-freezer (about -15<br>
> degrees Fahrenheit) for this weekend. I'll put it in there completely<br>
> unprotected.<br>
><br>
> My problems in the past with such extreme cold have been issues directly<br>
> with the radio hardware (like VCO's that unlock, etc.). This type of<br>
> extreme thermal shock can also destroy transmitter PA's, in short order by<br>
> cracking ceramic substrates in power modules, etc. (I've got a few of<br>
> those Tee-shirts, too!).<br>
><br>
> 73, David KB4FXC<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, Michael Lussier wrote:<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > I went up on the mountain Wednesday morning. The repeater was powered up as well as the BBB. No action from the repeater.<br>
> > Any thoughts on low power way to keep the BBB and the URI warm ? I can use 12vdc<br>
> ><br>
> > Sent from an iPhone 5 iOS 8<br>
> ><br>
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