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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><font style="" color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif">Educate you users to NOT connect
the local hub to the WAN system or any other large network.</font>
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Say what? WAN is an open system - why would you tell people that?<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl">
<div dir="ltr"><font style="" color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif"> We had a problem with that for
awhile...<br>
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What exactly was the "problem"?<br><br><font style="" face="Tahoma,sans-serif">Kevin, Don't be so defensive! I did not say there was a problem with the WAN, what I was saying was when you have a local hub of users that are 24/7 connected together and one of them connects to a WAN simultaneously it can be a problem in that all of the sudden you have a very busy channel and the local have lost their ability to easily talk among each other. The exact problem the original poster pointed out.</font><font style="" face="Tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font><font style="" face="Tahoma,sans-serif"><br></font><font style="" face="Tahoma,sans-serif">To each his own. If you like massive connections they are out there for you. Just don't pollute the quieter smaller hubs with that if they don't want it. New users often make multiple connections not thinking that they are linking the world, thus you educate them. It is usually done unintentionally. </font><br><br><b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">WA3DSP</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</font></b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:40:38 -0500<br>From: kuggie@kuggie.com<br>To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<br>Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff<br><br>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 2/13/2015 4:15 PM, Doug Crompton
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font style="" color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif">But Allstar's ability to allow
infinite connections can also lead to problems. There seems to
be a mentality among a few that the more nodes we can connect
together the better.</font></div>
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What's wrong with connecting lots of nodes together? <br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font style="" color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif"> Some people like pileups, the WAN
system is an example. For day to day use I am not sure what
"wide area" buys you.</font></div>
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The ability to constantly test and stress your system and make sure
its ready (really ready) for an emergency that may consume the
system for hours or days on end. Before I got involved in AllStar
linking, many of the repeaters I own (about 25) went unused. I lost
interest and if there were a emergency I couldn't have told you what
worked and what didn't. Sure, systems like WIN and WAN are busy and
take out a lot of PA's, but we know all the time what works and what
doesn't. At least I could tell the local 911 director what their
immediate possibilities are. <br>
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It also buys you the ability to have diverse user base and attracts
foreign connections that many people, especially new hams can talk
DX without an HF radio. <br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl">
<div dir="ltr"><font style="" color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif"> Educate you users to NOT connect
the local hub to the WAN system or any other large network.</font></div>
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Say what? WAN is an open system - why would you tell people that?<br>
<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:BLU172-W295EDF11FBEFCE712EE6A8BA230@phx.gbl">
<div dir="ltr"><font style="" color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif"> We had a problem with that for
awhile...<br>
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What exactly was the "problem"?<br>
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</font><b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br>
</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">WA3DSP</font></b><br>
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<font size="4"><b>Kevin Custer - W3KKC</b></font><br>
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