<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294127"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_293377" class="" role="button" tabindex="0" data-action="contact-card-menu" data-name="app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" data-address="app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" title="app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294130"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294148" dir="ltr"><span style="" title-off="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_293377" class="" role="button" tabindex="0" data-action="contact-card-menu" data-name="app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" data-address="app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" title="app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">With app_rpt in direct control of the repeater you can turn off the internal ID and let app_rpt do the ID's and they won't be going over the link Yes, the pulse comes from the remote base hearing the repeaters tail after it unkeys. I was also going to mention, on the audio issue it sounds like you have discriminator audio, I think there's a setting in rpt.conf to deal with that, someone else will have to give you that info as i'm not exactly sure what it needs to be set.<br style="" class="">Andrew.<br></span></div><div style="" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294148" dir="ltr"> </div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294128" class="signature"><br></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294225" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294224" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> R. Wayne <allstar@controlservers.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> KD8USF <kd8usf@yahoo.com>; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:55 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a Remote Base w/RTCM<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294223" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv5700708934"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_294222" dir="ltr">
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<div>That explains it very well. But the MSF isn’t the problem yet, I don’
think. Isn’t it the remote base? Once we connect the RTCM to the MSF and it
controls the MSF and does the CWIDs won’t this issue disappear?</div>
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<div id="yiv5700708934yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_282683"><span id="yiv5700708934yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_282742">The reason why you are seeing the pulse go
over the link is because when the link radio unkeys it hears the repeater tail
and therefore keys up the link again. I also run an MSF5000, it does the CWID
with no PL which keeps the ID off the link unless someone kerchunks the repeater
while it's ID'ing. One way to stop the pulsing would be to set no tail on the
repeater, but if you're like me I have at least a 2 sec tail because I don't
want the repeater going up and down all the time like a simplex radio, and with
no tail you would not hear the repeater come back to you when you keyed it
up.</span></div>
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<allstar@controlservers.net><br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:36
PM<br clear="none"><b id="yiv5700708934yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_282690"><span id="yiv5700708934yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_282689" style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [App_rpt-users] Setting Up a
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<div id="yiv5700708934yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_282695">Our remote base isn’t cutting it. It
is half-duplex using a Vertex VX-4200. We are told that the audio has no bottom,
it is sending CWID that it hears from the repeater (I knew why) and is sending
pulses. I didn’t set the hardware or software up, so as I ask please know that I
am at the top of a mountain and the remote base at the bottom where we have
internet. Here’s what we are dealing with. Our intent is to attach the RTCM at
the repeater site once we have internet up there. Until then...</div>
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<div id="yiv5700708934yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_282701">The DB-15 on the back of the Vertex
VX-4200 is *almost* capable of being used as a repeater controller output.</div>
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<div id="yiv5700708934yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_282702">Pin 1 = TX Audio</div>
<div id="yiv5700708934yui_3_16_0_1_1433571713052_282703">Pin 2 = RX Audio</div>
<div>Pin 6 = External PTT</div>
<div>Pin 9 = COR (see notes)</div>
<div>Pin 15 = GRND</div>
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<div>COR is achieved by creating voltage divider using other pins. Only then
will one get COR but not COS. PL will only make it to the speaker on the front
panel and rear jack. PL IS NOT on pin 2. Pin 2 is squelched but when it receives
the repeater’s built-in controller (a Motorola MSF-5000). Every time our CWID
goes off our remote base sends it to everyone.</div>
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<div>Here are the problems. First, we’re told that we are committing link abuse
by “jumping” or key clicking every time someone else transmits on a node our
node replies. I don’t know what I am talking bout at this point. <img data-id="868b9446-b75e-962b-cbfb-b4bbf447d567" class="yiv5700708934wlEmoticon yiv5700708934wlEmoticon-smile" style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE:none;BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE:none;BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE:none;BORDER-LEFT-STYLE:none;" alt="Smile">:-)</div>
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<div>Next I am told that our audio has no bottom end. No bass. The pin that
we’re able to pull from is the only source that we’re aware of and is the pin
used by Vertex to send audio to their VRS (mobile repeater).</div>
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<div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.shercoares.org/doc_files/manuals/vx4200_sm.pdf">http://www.shercoares.org/doc_files/manuals/vx4200_sm.pdf</a></div>
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<div>I’ve been told to turn PL off and let the repeater pass through the tone.
But please remember that pin 2 has no PL on it. Only the front panel speaker and
rear speaker jack audio are muted by PL.</div>
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<div>The easiest solution may be a GM300 but I cannot get the darn software on
our old 386 laptop. The floppy decided to only read those created by itself.
We’re puckered up on this one.</div>
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