<div dir="ltr">The GPSDO does not interface with the RTCM at all; It does share the the 1PPS from your GPS antenna, and it can be "interfaced" with a PCGM module to move the clock from 10MHz to 14.4Mhz or other rates. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Bryan Fields <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net" target="_blank">Bryan@bryanfields.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 8/3/15 2:29 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:<br>
> Since asking about transmitter steering, I've been looking into the<br>
> feasibility of simulcast. The marginal difference between transmitter<br>
> steering and simulcast (in terms of equipment) is a GPSDO and a<br>
> transmitter that accepts a 10 MHz reference input. I have some leads<br>
> on transmitters--Quantars or some Daniels MT-4D. Other transmitter<br>
> recommendations are welcome, but what I'm really curious about is the<br>
> GPSDO.<br>
><br>
> It looks like the Trimble Thunderbolt is the gold standard.<br>
<br>
</span>It is, and the RTCM interfaces with it. Spend the money if your time is worth<br>
it, or unless you want the enjoyment of re-engineering stuff.<br>
<span class=""><br>
> At less than half the going price of Thunderbolt, you can find these<br>
> BG7TBL GPSDOs:<br>
> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/121530825744" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/121530825744</a><br>
><br>
> Some are labeled Trimble and Huawei, so I think it's safe to say they<br>
> are neither. The question is: are they any good? It looks like KE5FX<br>
> has done some testing:<br>
> <a href="http://www.ke5fx.com/gpscomp.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ke5fx.com/gpscomp.htm</a><br>
><br>
> I don't really know what to look for in the graphs, but he says in his<br>
> conclusion "the BG7TBL unit is actually running at about 9.999 999 999<br>
> 800 Hz". Is this a deal-breaker for simulcast? If all transmitters<br>
> have a BG7TBL GPSDO, does it matter that they aren't exactly 10 MHz?<br>
> Is anyone running these GPSDOs with RTCM simulcast that can comment on<br>
> their performance?<br>
<br>
</span>I doubt it as the PLL is going to divide the signal down to 5 or 6.25 KHz, and<br>
then use it as a reference to compare it to the VCO. (in a quantar for<br>
example). This is an error of 200 uHz, but it looks like it's a consistent<br>
error (it's precision is excellent but accuracy is meh).<br>
<br>
This is an error of 0.000020 PPM or .020 PPB. This is amazingly good. For<br>
example this is an error of 0.0185 Hz at 927 MHz. It's only going to be<br>
better lower in frequency.<br>
<br>
This would be the difference between a true 10.000000000000000 Clock and this<br>
clock. Assuming all the clocks are the same amount off, your sites will be<br>
off a few ten thousandths of a Hz from true, but all will be the same amount<br>
off so it's not going to matter in any case.<br>
<br>
Keep in mind the Quantar with the UHSO option is like 10 PPB and still used<br>
for simulcast in some applications at VHF/UHF since it's about 1-2 hz of error.<br>
<br>
I've got a 220 hamtronics simulcast setup working, not really deployed it long<br>
term yet, but I'd like to. I have some Pic code posted here about my PLL<br>
programing.<br>
<br>
73's<br>
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