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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We'll have to wait and see how they (DMR-MARC) responds when it becomes widespread, my point was it's their network and I respect that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Steve Zingman [mailto:szingman@msgstor.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Guibord<br><b>Cc:</b> app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org; Kirk Just Kirk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL and IRLP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Not sure that will last. The case can be made for the fact it's their network to govern as they see fit.<br>My DMR repeaters have DMR-MARC, DCI and BrandMeister all available to my users.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Sent via smoke signal (Verizon)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 9, 2016 2:41 PM, Mark Guibord <<a href="mailto:mark@micro-node.com">mark@micro-node.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>And the reasoning behind D-Marc restricting DMR+ / Brandmeister traffic on there network is???<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 9, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Kirk Just Kirk <<a href="mailto:wb6egr@gmail.com">wb6egr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes Steve thats true, and we don't have to rely on IRLP to link sites anymore.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>We can have high performance, and agility or sit on the side of the road with a blown headgasket...we have a choice.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Guess which is which :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Steve Zingman <<a href="mailto:szingman@msgstor.com">szingman@msgstor.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It's their infrastructure. Their key exchange. Their reflectors. It is their network.<br><br>On 01/09/2016 01:05 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On 1/9/16 12:59 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kirk is correct. IRLP on AllStar is no longer supported. It can be done,<br>but it's NOT supported. It's their network, if they don't want our<br>traffic, respect that.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>But the thing is, it's not their network. It's all individual repeaters, and<br>the traffic is peer to peer, it's not transverseing IRLP servers.<br><br>If some one wants to restrict a given node from connecting to their node, I<br>don't take issue with that, but I'll be damned if some one else is going to<br>tell me who can connect to my node.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>-- <br>"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."<br>1st Law of Logic<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>App_rpt-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org">App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org</a><br><a href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users">http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a><br><br>To unsubscribe from this list please visit <a href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users">http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</a> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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