<html><head><meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type" /></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">I don't believe it does.  <br>
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Does anyone have a link to the xipar source repository?   I'd like to take a look how they are doing it.  It might be possible to do it via 1588 or some other network time protocol.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On March 30, 2016 12:01:38 PM EDT, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@leikhim.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

  
    
  
  
    Without GPS, how does XIPAR deal with jitter and network latency?<br />
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/2016 11:25 AM, Jeff Ackerman
      wrote:<br />
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          <div>If you looking for the alternative IP voting of the
            varuious app_rpt flavors you can try XIPAR:  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter">http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter</a><br />
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          It wont be as seamless of voting as a RTCM, but its much
          simpler, doesnt require anything more then PC's, the IP
          backhaul and usb radio interfaces with radios capable of
          giving discriminator audio.<br />
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        Conventional hardware voting comparators could work but require
        the backhaul, which in most commercial applications is 4 wire
        e&m voice circuits using either tone signaling or e&m
        signaling. (This method of voting is done outside of
        allstar/app_rpt.)<br />
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:09 AM, Joe
          Leikhim <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rhyolite@leikhim.com" target="_blank">rhyolite@leikhim.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br />
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Here are
            some products to start with;<br />
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            There is the Raven M4x<br />
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            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ravencomm.com/documents/products_doc3_23.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ravencomm.com/documents/products_doc3_23.pdf</a><br />
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            Raytheon JPS SNV-12 (Though the future of this product is up
            in the air, it was the defacto standard. Uses 600 ohm VF
            circuits, IP connectivity needs to be overlaid)<br />
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.simulcastsolutions.com/userfiles/file/appnotes/vSnv12App.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.simulcastsolutions.com/userfiles/file/appnotes/vSnv12App.pdf</a><br />
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            Motorola Spectra Tac (Obsolete Now Motorola has pretty much
            abandoned analog FM technology. Uses 600 ohm VF circuits,)<br />
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/spectra-tac/spectratac-index.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/spectra-tac/spectratac-index.html</a><br />
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            The above voters all use some method of signal/noise voting.
            The JPS SNV-12 and the Raven M4X use DSP to make decision,
            while the Spectra Tac was pretty much an analog noise
            measurement vs a status tone/audio AGC level. The SpectraTac
            does not support non-Motorola receivers unless you know the
            "secret sauce" which I am privy to.<br />
            <br />
            This site has some practical examples of projects that are
            simulcast, but by design incorporate the SNV-12 voters.<br />
            <br />
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.simulcastsolutions.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.simulcastsolutions.com</a><br />
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            Are you looking for some more in depth RF design aspects of
            receiver voting? I can help perhaps.<br />
            <br />
            Joe<br />
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                On 3/8/2016 5:20 AM, Steve Wright wrote:<br />
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                  On 05/03/16 06:00,  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mike@midnighteng.com" target="_blank">mike@midnighteng.com</a>
                  wrote:<br />
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                    FYI There are RTCM /voter systems for app_rpt if you
                    want to do it right.<br />
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                  Is there an example voting-RX project somewhere I can
                  read about?<br />
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                  Non-RTCM please.  I know about the RTCM and I'm
                  looking at alternatives.<br />
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                  Many thanks,<br />
                  Steve<br />
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